Re: In woody wdm garbles list of window managers, shows only a few

2003-06-17 Thread David selby
TR wrote:

I am using wdm to login to X, but it shows only a few of the possible window managers. However, all of them are there:

Line from /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config:

DisplayManager*wdmWm: afterstep:amiwm:asclassic:blackbox:default:enlightenment:fluxbox:flwm:fvwm2:fvwm95:gnome-session:gwm:icewm:icewm-lite:ion:kde2:larswm:lwm:metacity:olvwm-x-window-manager:olwm-x-window-manager:pwm:qvwm:ratpoison:sapphire:sawfish:twm:uwm:wm2:wm2:wmaker:xfwm

When the dropdown menu slides, it makes a mess at the line corresponding to `icewm`. I suppose that in the configuration somewhat there is a limit to the number of window managers that can be displayed. I have no idea about how to fix it. Anyone knows how?

So far, kdm seems to be the best in terms of options to login (window managers). The 
problem I had with it was that it consistently failed to present a few of the window 
managers. This question is anotherone I would like to know how to fix.
Thanks.
 

This may help 

Go into KDE, control center
Add a session type "eg fluxbox"
vi /etc/kde2/kdm/kdm.options
delete generate-sessiontypes
I had window managers disppearing because KDM tries to work out what 
window managers you have and gets it wrong. Doing the above lets you 
specify manualy.

Good Luck
Dave
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Bugzilla on Sarge is very slow

2003-06-17 Thread Ivan Wills
Hi
I just upgraded my Debian install from Woody to Sarge. I am just running 
Bugzilla on this computer, but since the upgrade bugzilla is deathly 
slow. It takes 5 or more seconds to open any cgi page.

Does any know if the likely cause is the move from Bugzilla 1.14.2 to 
1.16.3 or is it Perl moving from 5.6 to 5.8 or is there some other 
possibility that could be causeing this slow down?

Any suggestions on how to improve speed would be welcomed (I have cut 
the system down to bare bones, no X and only apache and sshd running)

Thanks
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Re: image contents

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 15:25, Henry Favretto wrote:
> yes i have, but i thought i could get a more up to date version with jigdo...

If you dont mind the large install, Knoppix is constatnly being
upgraded. So it very recent and it considered testing-unstable.
I havent had a chance to install Bonsai but its relatively new and based
on stable and includes KDE.
Knoppix give you a very complete system in 20 min. Not sure about
Bonsai.  
But supposedly these are easier to install that other methods. YMMV.
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Re: Switching from Mutt to Evoultion

2003-06-17 Thread Tim Timmerman
> "Brad" == Brad Cramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Brad> I am switching from Mutt to Evolution (because I am using Outlook at
Brad> work and want to try and keeps things the same) Anyway I am not really
Brad> sure how to set some things up. I have a mail server running on my home
Brad> network which handles fetching my mail and also sending. I then have my
Brad> box that I am running Evolution on that runs fetchmail as a daemon to
Brad> collect mail from home mail server. Before I used procmail and mutt sort
Brad> mail ( I subscribe to several mailing lists and really like the way that
Brad> setup worked from within Mutt) But I am not really sure how to set up
Brad> something similar in Evolution, so I get my personal mail from work and
Brad> home into my Inbox and mailing lists mail sorted and put into the
Brad> various folders.
Brad> Would someone like to provide me with some pointers and sites that can
Brad> help me with this transition.
   Brad, 

 I recently (within the last week) made the same switch, not
 because I had to use outlook, but because I needed to add
 imap to the network, for our new road-warriors.

 Anyway: the curent setup:
 - Mail is still filtered (to files in ~/mail or ~/nsmail,
   depending on user pref) by procmail

 - I created an imap account in evolution. 
   Using this account, I subscribed to a number of folders,
   the files in which the mail is filtered. 

   That's all there was to it, as far as I remember.

One minor problem: with the 'send/receive' option, all of my
mail arrives in a seperate folder. (Evolution 1.0.5) There is
a pop box on a remote server involved that I'd like to be
filtered to a seperate folder. Haven't yet figured out a way
to do this, but I think that's where evolutions own folders
come in.. (Or I could kludge up something using fetchmail..)

TimT. (Apologies for the appended disclaimer. I have no
control over it.)


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Re: Postgresql: pg_dumpall

2003-06-17 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Sun, 2003-06-15 at 15:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I use Postgresql 7.2.1-2woody2 which is currently included in the Woody
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> I tried to use /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/pg_dumpall, but it doesnt work at
> all.

That program is copied from the previous installed version in order to
automate the upgrade procedure.  Once you have successfully upgraded,
all the contents of /usr/lib/postgresql/dumpall/ can be deleted.

...
> Is the pg_dumpall, which is bundled with Woody broken or why
> doesnt it work? Wrong Version?

You need to use /usr/lib/postgresql/bin/pg_dumpall.  If you log in (or
su -) as postgres, this should be in your path.

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Re: Stepping down ethernet card speed

2003-06-17 Thread Ross Boylan
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:20:09PM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> what card?
3Com Corporation 3c905C-TX/TX-M [Tornado] (rev 78)
> 
> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:56, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > Because of some network problems, it looks as if I need to tell my
> > ethernet card to operate at a certain speed, rather than letting it
> > autosense.  How do I do that?  Is it a run-time thing (e.g., ifconfig),
> > or do I need to set it as a kernel option on load?
> > 
> > Thanks.
> 
> 
> 


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Re: How to set the mailing list for reading in kmail?

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin McKinley
On 17 Jun 2003 14:52:41 -0700
Jeremy Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> what version of kernel-source are you using?  I have 2.4.20-7 (from
> testing) and cannot compile with gcc3.3.  

I haven't actually, but I was speaking of 2.4.20-8, which others have used
successfully with gcc3.3.

Here's an excerpt from the changelog:

   * Use static inline in net/core/rtnetlink.c (closes: #194196).
   * Fixed multiline string literals:
 . drivers/scsi/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_osm.c
 . driver/net/tokenring/olympic.c
 . driver/net/wan/sdla_chdlc.c
 . fs/reiserfs/super.c
 . arch/i386/math-emu/poly.h

IIRC the above were the things that caused the problems.

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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:39:23PM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> I use mp3 format, just because I want the flexibility of playing my
> music on the maximum number of devices.

Though if you shop with the format in mind, you can get ogg-playing
devices.

My roommate has this weird, bizarre idea that WMA is the most widely
playable format, but I have a hard time believing that for some
reason...

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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Wed, Jun 18, 2003 at 01:46:40AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

> Also, what does everyone recommed for a preferred storage format
> (wav, mp3, ogg)?

I'm big on the Ogg myself.  You can use Konqueror (drag and drop using
the multimedia sidebar), abcde, grip, or any other CD ripper to create
them.

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Re: [OT]What is Dynix

2003-06-17 Thread Paul Johnson
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> different Unix variants, but to date, I have never heard of a Unix 
> called Dynix. Can anyone tell me what kind of OS it is/was ? 

Dynix was Sequent's version of Unix.  Extremely popular even today
among public libraries and schools for their card catalog system.

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Re: Stepping down ethernet card speed

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
what card?

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:56, Ross Boylan wrote:
> Because of some network problems, it looks as if I need to tell my
> ethernet card to operate at a certain speed, rather than letting it
> autosense.  How do I do that?  Is it a run-time thing (e.g., ifconfig),
> or do I need to set it as a kernel option on load?
> 
> Thanks.
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Re: In woody wdm garbles list of window managers, shows only a few

2003-06-17 Thread TR
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:06:02PM -0400, TR wrote:
> > Line from /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config:
> > 
> > DisplayManager*wdmWm:
> > afterstep:amiwm:asclassic:blackbox:default:enlightenment:fluxbox:fl
> > wm:fvwm2:fvwm95:gnome-session:gwm:icewm:icewm-lite:ion:kde2:larswm:
> > lwm:metacity:olvwm-x-window-manager:olwm-x-window-manager:pwm:qvwm:
> > ratpoison:sapphire:sawfish:twm:uwm:wm2:wm2:wmaker:xfwm
> > 
> 
> There is a bug in woody's wdm that artificially limits the number of
> windowmanagers it will display.  This was fixed by upstream version
> 1.22, so the version in sid and sarge does not have this limitation.
> 
> You could change the woody version locally and recompile it.  That
> might be easier than backporting the sid version, but maybe not.  The
> code you care about is in src/Login.c.  Look for WmStr.
> 
> noah
> (wdm maintainer)

Thanks Noah, great.


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Re: Sound docs?

2003-06-17 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 22:27, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> Does anybody know of a good link that explains the differences between
> esd, alsa, and oss, and how these different thing can/should interact to
> allow sound to work well under linux?

OSS is one family of sound drivers.

Alsa is another.

Some people swear by one, some people by the other. OSS is still the
standard sound driver in the Linux kernel, but that may change soon.

Esd is a piece of software that allows several sound sources to be mixed
together or sent over the network etc. However performance is pretty bad
because of all the work that the cpu and the network must do. It's ok
for listening to music, but a bit laggy for playing quake.

> Sound remains my weak point in the linux experience.  :)
I got myself an SBLive! (any card with an emu10k chip should work). It's
pretty decent under Gnu/Linux. The OSS drivers let me play sound from
multiple apps at the same time, with hardware mixing so it doesn't slow
down my performance.

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Re: In woody wdm garbles list of window managers, shows only a few

2003-06-17 Thread Noah Meyerhans
[ insane crossposting removed ]

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:06:02PM -0400, TR wrote:
> Line from /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config:
> 
> DisplayManager*wdmWm:
> afterstep:amiwm:asclassic:blackbox:default:enlightenment:fluxbox:flwm:fvwm2:fvwm95:gnome-session:gwm:icewm:icewm-lite:ion:kde2:larswm:lwm:metacity:olvwm-x-window-manager:olwm-x-window-manager:pwm:qvwm:ratpoison:sapphire:sawfish:twm:uwm:wm2:wm2:wmaker:xfwm
> 

There is a bug in woody's wdm that artificially limits the number of
windowmanagers it will display.  This was fixed by upstream version
1.22, so the version in sid and sarge does not have this limitation.

You could change the woody version locally and recompile it.  That might
be easier than backporting the sid version, but maybe not.  The code you
care about is in src/Login.c.  Look for WmStr.

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Re: exim-tls or VPN

2003-06-17 Thread Will Trillich
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 10:42:45PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:
> * Will Trillich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030615 22:14]:
> > i've been fencing with exim-tls and am at the cusp of
> > surrendering. i hear that i could use a vpn to allow my
> > emailers to connect securely and send/receive email that
> > way, without having to wrestle exim to do the tls that's
> > supposed to be so simple...
> 
> Hold it right there.  There's no way that setting up VPN
> clients for all of your clients will be easier than setting up
> exim-tls.  I just thought I'd warn you before you go pulling
> on the VPN rope that it's much easier to hang yourself with
> that than with tls/smtp.

even tho "apt-get install pptpd" should do most of the heavy
lifting?

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Re: Apache mod-ssl HOWTOs?

2003-06-17 Thread Will Trillich
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:53:23AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 12:03:04AM -0400, ScruLoose wrote:
> > So I *think* what I need to do is to have two separate
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> > for http on port 80 and the other listening for https on
> > port, umm... 443 I think it was.
> 
> Right.  You will run two Apache servers.  They have separate
> configs (separate /etc/apache* dirs) and separate logs.  The
> don't conflict with each other.

why would it be bad to have apache-perl with libapache-mod-ssl
active? that way if your login area does heavy mod_perl stuff
similar to the public mod_perl stuff, you won't have to maintain
two diverse branches.

there's a drawback, i'm sure, but what is it?

we use HTML::Mason heavily and don't want to have to copy lots
of scripts hither and yon. maybe there can be some "okay now
that they've got an ssl connection, proxy the request back to
the non-ssl browser to do the perl stuff" or some such...?

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Sound docs?

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
Does anybody know of a good link that explains the differences between
esd, alsa, and oss, and how these different thing can/should interact to
allow sound to work well under linux?

Sound remains my weak point in the linux experience.  :)






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Re: How to set the mailing list for reading in kmail?

2003-06-17 Thread Jozsef Bakosi
James-

to download mails from yahoo (without going to yahoo's website): 
fetchyahoo, after that, you should be able to read local emails from any 
mail-client.

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James Ng wrote:
I am a new subscriber of this debian-user mailing
list. I have also subscribed the other two debian
mailing, debian-chinese and debian-kde. However, do i
need to send the email through yahoo email service
every time?
Instead, does the mailing list need to read through
the debian homepages? If not, how to set in kmail, or
the other mail programme so that i can read the
mailing list in these programme?
Thank you.

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Stepping down ethernet card speed

2003-06-17 Thread Ross Boylan
Because of some network problems, it looks as if I need to tell my
ethernet card to operate at a certain speed, rather than letting it
autosense.  How do I do that?  Is it a run-time thing (e.g., ifconfig),
or do I need to set it as a kernel option on load?

Thanks.
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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Johann Koenig
On Wednesday June 18, 2003 at 02:20
Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings list,
> 
> Today, for the first time, I popped an audio CD in my laptop with the
> intention of listening to it (the CD player portion of my stero broke
> during my last move).  I was very unhappy when gnome-cd and xmms both
> choked on it.  It's an older CD so I can't imagine it is DRM'd, but
> nonetheless I would still like to play it (and a few others) on my
> computer.  I did an apt-get cdda2wav and messed around with that some
> until I managed to get some tracks on the harddrive where I could play
> them with xmms, but I have a couple of problems. 1) I would like a
> GUI-type tool to facilitate putting the audio on my harddrive and 2) I
> can't figure out how to tell cdda2wav to make each track into 
You need the xmms-cdread package, then you need to enable the plugin in
xmms preferences. Also, make sure cd-audio isnt muted (apt-get install
aumix-gtk) and that the cable is connected.

Grip is my favorite ripper, and ive tried danmn near everyone in the
debian package system.

You need an encoder, like lame http://lame.freshmeat.com (i think thats
the url) to encode mp3s. Grip comes with an ogg encoder.

I prefer mp3s, but thats all it is, a preferance. I encode at 192
(again, preference)
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Re: C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters)call?

2003-06-17 Thread Richard Heycock
As others have said 'exec' refers to the family of exec system calls. It
is part of POSIX 1003.

rgh

On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 05:29, Shaul Karl wrote:
>   I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec
> call. Yet when I run 
> 
> man exec
> 
> I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one
> without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is
> definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another
> interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is
> the return code and where is it documented?
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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
I use grip; it grabs the audio from the disc, then encodes it in your
preferred format.  It is very flexible; it saves the files in the
correct location based on artist and title (if you want), sets the tags
properly, etc.  

I use mp3 format, just because I want the flexibility of playing my
music on the maximum number of devices.


On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 16:46, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
> Greetings list,
> 
> Today, for the first time, I popped an audio CD in my laptop with the intention
> of listening to it (the CD player portion of my stero broke during my last 
> move).  I was very unhappy when gnome-cd and xmms both choked on it.  It's an
> older CD so I can't imagine it is DRM'd, but nonetheless I would still like to
> play it (and a few others) on my computer.  I did an apt-get cdda2wav and
> messed around with that some until I managed to get some tracks on the 
> harddrive where I could play them with xmms, but I have a couple of problems.
> 1) I would like a GUI-type tool to facilitate putting the audio on my harddrive
> and 2) I can't figure out how to tell cdda2wav to make each track into a
> separate file when I try to grab the entire disc.
> 
> Could someone point me in the right direction here?  Also, what does everyone
> recommed for a preferred storage format (wav, mp3, ogg)?
> 
> -Roberto Sanchez
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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Jozsef Bakosi
Hello Roberto,

I use abcd with cdparanoia to grab and oggenc to encode in ogg. (No 
patents with oggs!) Although these are console tools, they work just 
perfect without any interaction, ie. grabbing cds track by track, 
encoding them into ogg (you can set it to mp3 too, if you'd like mp3 
better). If you want gui, I would suggest grip.

Regards,
Jozsef
Roberto Sanchez wrote:
Greetings list,

Today, for the first time, I popped an audio CD in my laptop with the intention
of listening to it (the CD player portion of my stero broke during my last 
move).  I was very unhappy when gnome-cd and xmms both choked on it.  It's an
older CD so I can't imagine it is DRM'd, but nonetheless I would still like to
play it (and a few others) on my computer.  I did an apt-get cdda2wav and
messed around with that some until I managed to get some tracks on the 
harddrive where I could play them with xmms, but I have a couple of problems.
1) I would like a GUI-type tool to facilitate putting the audio on my harddrive
and 2) I can't figure out how to tell cdda2wav to make each track into a
separate file when I try to grab the entire disc.

Could someone point me in the right direction here?  Also, what does everyone
recommed for a preferred storage format (wav, mp3, ogg)?
-Roberto Sanchez

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Re: signature and missing key

2003-06-17 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 03:51:53PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:09:21AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > thank you for the answer!. Do I need to import the public key for 
> > *each* user? I am asking because many user of this list use this type 
> > of signature!
> 
> Yes, you do. gpg can be configured to do this automatically
> ('keyserver-options auto-key-retrieve' in ~/.gnupg/options, I believe),
> but obviously that will slow things down on the occasions where it does
> have to go off and get the key.

With a dialup, it would be rather useful to be able to do this from the MTA
rather than the MUA. Unfortunately /usr/share/doc/exim/spec.txt.gz
contains no references to either gpg or pgp. Am I really out of luck
for built-in solutions?

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Re: C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters) call?

2003-06-17 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 10:29:25PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
>   I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec
> call. Yet when I run 
> 
> man exec
> 
> I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one
> without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is
> definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another
> interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is
> the return code and where is it documented?

As I interpret that man page, exec without any additional letters is
simply a generic term for the family of functions mentioned above. So
one might loosely refer to "an exec" meaning whichever one of execl,
execlp, etc is appropriate for the task in hand.

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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Tom
Wednesday 18 June 2003 02:51; Alexander Schmehl:

> > Also, what does everyone recommed for a preferred storage format
> > (wav, mp3, ogg)?
>
> I prefer ogg, since it is a free format. wav-files are very large.

flac-files are smaller. Large too, indeed. But smaller :-)

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In woody wdm garbles list of window managers, shows only a few

2003-06-17 Thread TR
I am using wdm to login to X, but it shows only a few of the possible window managers. 
However, all of them are there:

Line from /etc/X11/wdm/wdm-config:

DisplayManager*wdmWm: 
afterstep:amiwm:asclassic:blackbox:default:enlightenment:fluxbox:flwm:fvwm2:fvwm95:gnome-session:gwm:icewm:icewm-lite:ion:kde2:larswm:lwm:metacity:olvwm-x-window-manager:olwm-x-window-manager:pwm:qvwm:ratpoison:sapphire:sawfish:twm:uwm:wm2:wm2:wmaker:xfwm


When the dropdown menu slides, it makes a mess at the line corresponding to `icewm`. I 
suppose that in the configuration somewhat there is a limit to the number of window 
managers that can be displayed. I have no idea about how to fix it. Anyone knows how?

So far, kdm seems to be the best in terms of options to login (window managers). The 
problem I had with it was that it consistently failed to present a few of the window 
managers. This question is anotherone I would like to know how to fix.
Thanks.


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Re: Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Alexander Schmehl
* Roberto Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [030618 01:46]:

> Could someone point me in the right direction here? 

Just a guess: Are you member of the corespondig group?


> Also, what does everyone recommed for a preferred storage format
> (wav, mp3, ogg)?

I prefer ogg, since it is a free format. wav-files are very large.


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Re: problems with dial-up and exim

2003-06-17 Thread David
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:40:18AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> Dear Debianners,
> 
> I am having a hard time setting exim to work at home, using my 
> comercial IP trough a dial-up connection. After connected to  this IP, 
> I cannot send emails from home to any place in the Internet... 
> 
> In order to start looking for a solution, my /var/log/exim/mainlog file 
> looks like this:
> 
> 
> 2003-06-16 20:54:13 19S3nh-9U-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> H=hyperion [127.0.0.1] P=esmtp S=632 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> localhost
> 2003-06-16 20:57:22 19S3nh-9U-00 centroin.com.br [200.225.63.219]: 
> Connection timed out
> 2003-06-16 20:57:22 19S3nh-9U-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> T=remote_smtp defer (110): Connection timed out

I'm sure that some more knowledgable people will offer assistance, but I
noticed one thing..

I assume that this message is destined for some remote address, and that
you intend to route your mails through your ISP's server..  If this be
the case, then you need to configure your ISP as your smart-host.  Note
that in the first log entry above, that it list the H as hyperion.. your
computer(?). Here is a log entry for a mail send that I made:

 begin of log---
2003-06-16 19:18:32 19S4BC-lI-00 <= [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=dlb P=local S=1218
### Exim received mail message

2003-06-16 19:18:33 19S4BC-lI-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost defer (-36): 
host lookup for mail.duo-county.com did not complete (DNS timeout?)
### I was offline at the time

2003-06-16 19:23:01 Start queue run: pid=2954
2003-06-16 19:23:01 19S4BC-lI-00 == [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost defer (-36): 
host lookup for mail.duo-county.com did not complete (DNS timeout?)
2003-06-16 19:23:01 End queue run: pid=2954
### Another queue run.. still offline

2003-06-16 19:25:35 Start queue run: pid=2970 -qf
2003-06-16 19:25:43 19S4BC-lI-00 => [EMAIL PROTECTED] R=smarthost T=remote_smtp 
H=mail.duo-county.com [66.38.0.203]
2003-06-16 19:25:43 19S4BC-lI-00 Completed
### Success!!!
 end of log ---

Note that it is being sent through the "smarthost" router (R=smarthost)
and the host (H=mail.duo-county.com)

To get this I have this entry for the smarthost router.
IIRC, this must be placed right after the "end" statement for the
directors...

---  in exim.conf -
# Send all mail to a smarthost

smarthost:
  driver = domainlist
  transport = remote_smtp
  route_list = "* mail.duo-county.com bydns_a"

# and it ends with an end statement
end

---

I hope this helps.


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Re: OT: Malformed date header? (was: Re: Re: Kernel penguin logo?)

2003-06-17 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:39:13PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > On a related topic, is there a way to instruct procmail to fix broken
> > date on the flight. I would be happy to get rid of old mails showing at
> > the end of the mailbox because the sender believes we already are in
> > 2010.
> 
> ...other than simply deleting them for you?

Yes. Something like, if the mail is dated in the future, make it dated
from now.

> My most frequent off-list post is probably the one liner:  "fix your
> clock".

I use to do that. But it's a never-ending quest.

Christophe

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How to set the mailing list for reading in kmail?

2003-06-17 Thread James Ng
I am a new subscriber of this debian-user mailing
list. I have also subscribed the other two debian
mailing, debian-chinese and debian-kde. However, do i
need to send the email through yahoo email service
every time?

Instead, does the mailing list need to read through
the debian homepages? If not, how to set in kmail, or
the other mail programme so that i can read the
mailing list in these programme?

Thank you.

Regrads, 
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How to set the mailing list for reading in kmail?

2003-06-17 Thread James Ng
 
 

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Re: exim-tls just says "no, stupid!"

2003-06-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:53:42AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
| On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:42:34AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
| > On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:17:38AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
| > | (certificate and public key seem okay; i'm even able to grok the
| > | syntax to have an authenticator pull password fields out of a
| > | "htpasswd"-created file...)
| > 
| > That sounds good.
| > 
| > May I suggest using exim or some other Debian tool to verify that exim
| > itself is working with TLS (and/or AUTH)?
| > 
| > (the AUTH PLAIN part is easy, using telnet)
| 
| i can probably find the exim testing options (didn't think to
| look, of course -- thanks!)

To test AUTH PLAIN :
First enable AUTH without TLS in exim.  (I don't remember what the
tricks are with exim 3.  If you see "250-AUTH PLAIN" in response
to an EHLO command then this is the case)

Second, properly encode the data to send to the server.  Eg for a
user "me" with password "pass" :
$ echo -ne '\0me\0pass' | base64-encode
AG1lAHBhc3M=

Then with telnet try it :
$ telnet localhost smtp
ehlo foo
auth plain AG1lAHBhc3M=

You should see a 2xx (or is it 3xx?) acceptance of the AUTH.  If you
see 4xx or 5xx something is wrong, check the logs.

| but "other debian tool" is a bit vague. what would i apt-cache
| search for?

Anything that does ESMTP with STARTLS.  I imagine that Mozilla Mail,
KMail, Evolution, and others, do this.  I know that mutt does not.

| > BTW, I *think* I have exim working with TLS, but
| > 1)  I am using exim 4, not 3.x
| 
| i'm using woody/stable:
|   $ exim -bV
|   Exim version 3.35 #1 built 04-Mar-2002 23:05:40
|   Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 2001

Say, just today I noticed that exim4 is in sid now.  It looks (based
on expanding the archives and seeing what files are in the package)
like the packagers did a nice job too.  The config is now separated
into multiple files in a well-organized fashion based on the sections.
In addition they appear to have included the dynamic loading
local_scan patch available on the 'net.  If I wasn't going to end up
with package conflicts from it I'd upgrade to it now :-).  YMMV.

| > 2)  I don't actually use it apart from testing way back when I
| > configured it, so I don't remember if it is actually there
| > or not.  If you want to experiment with it, you're welcome
| > to.  Just let me know before hand because, IIRC, I have
| > STARTTLS only advertised to certain clients.
| 
| "want to experiment with it" means... what? :)

Meaning use my machine to relay to yourself.  You would inject a
message into exim on your machine.  Your exim would route it through
my machine and use TLS and AUTH in the processes.  If that works, then
you have a functioning TLS set up.

| > Q: What is the difference betwee open-source and commercial software?
| s/wee/ween/

Oops!  :-).

| > A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone
| >number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version.
| >For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you
| >get the solution within a day.
| 
| well put!

Shamelessly copied from one of Bram Moolenar's sigs.

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Audio CD questions

2003-06-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Greetings list,

Today, for the first time, I popped an audio CD in my laptop with the intention
of listening to it (the CD player portion of my stero broke during my last 
move).  I was very unhappy when gnome-cd and xmms both choked on it.  It's an
older CD so I can't imagine it is DRM'd, but nonetheless I would still like to
play it (and a few others) on my computer.  I did an apt-get cdda2wav and
messed around with that some until I managed to get some tracks on the 
harddrive where I could play them with xmms, but I have a couple of problems.
1) I would like a GUI-type tool to facilitate putting the audio on my harddrive
and 2) I can't figure out how to tell cdda2wav to make each track into a
separate file when I try to grab the entire disc.

Could someone point me in the right direction here?  Also, what does everyone
recommed for a preferred storage format (wav, mp3, ogg)?

-Roberto Sanchez

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Re: "cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread Elizabeth Barham
David writes:

> I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
> thinking this should be easy ...
> 
> cut -d' ' -f2 $directory
> 
> The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say 
> that the white space between .gz & 200... may not be space but may have 
> a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII 
> for a file yet to check this out.

hexedit.

SYNOPSIS
   cut [OPTION]... [FILE]...

Your $directory is expanding out to each file which is compressed
data. cut reads the data in from the files, modifies it, and then
sends it to stdout. When the data is displayed on xterm, xterm
interprets the raw data in weird ways. "setterm -reset" will correct
this after the fact.

ls -r --format=single-column | tail +3

maybe?

Elizabeth




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RAID module fun

2003-06-17 Thread Antony Gelberg
Hi all,

I am trying to perform a new Debian installation on a PC with an ASUS A7V8X
mobo, using the onboard Promise 20376 (Fasttrak 133) SATA RAID controller.

This is something that not a lot of people appear to have done, especially
due to the lack of easily installable drivers...  A very nice person at
Promise technical support emailed me the source for a partial open source
driver, which did not appear to be available on their website.

Luckily I had another box around to compile the thing.  I'm now in a place
where I have the ft3xx.o on a floppy boot directory.  The Readme specifies
that scsi_mod.o has to be loaded first, so I built that as well, and stuck
it on the floppy.  Everything I built was against 2.4.18, as I want to
install Debian using the 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel.

When I try to insmod scsi_mod.o at the start of the install, it fails due to
the version conflict (it's the bf24 thing).  So, I tried an insmod -f.  For
some reason, there were loads of unresolved symbols.

Anyone have any ideas?  I don't have the actual error log to hand - I was
hoping that this scenario will ring a bell with someone.  If people need to
see the specific unresolved symbols (of which there looked like about 30), I
can post them.

Antony



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Re: OT: Malformed date header? (was: Re: Re: Kernel penguin logo?)

2003-06-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 03:45:15PM -0400, christophe barbe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:14:26PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> > on Wed, Dec 31, 1969 at 11:59:59PM +, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > The webmail service you're using is creating the following 
> > 
> > Date: Thu 12 Jun 2003 13:32:37 +0200
> > 
> > This is missing the ',' following 'Thu'.  Result is that your mail
> > appears to have been sent on Dec 31, 1969 (one day prior to the epoch).
> > 
> > I'm curious as to whether this is a bug with your mail service, or mutt.
> 
> On a related topic, is there a way to instruct procmail to fix broken
> date on the flight. I would be happy to get rid of old mails showing at
> the end of the mailbox because the sender believes we already are in
> 2010.

...other than simply deleting them for you?

My most frequent off-list post is probably the one liner:  "fix your
clock".

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open office compatibility

2003-06-17 Thread ian
Is Open Office v1.0.3.1 compatible with woody (kern. ver. 2.4.18)?
ian 

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Re: fatal error on RH partition

2003-06-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
 --- Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> on Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:53:30AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez insinuated:
> >  --- Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> > > hey all,
> > > 
> > > in trying to partition this machine up and install various OSes on it,
> > > i've managed to screw up a lot.  there's a redhat install on a
> > > different partition, and though i can mount it, i can't boot into it.
> > > 
> > > more specifically, if i add a stanza (really basic, like below) to my
> > > /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo, i get the following error:
> > > 
> > > Fatal: First sector of /dev/hda5 doesn't have a valid boot signature
> > > 
> > > the stanza i add to /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:
> > > 
> > > other=/dev/hda5
> > >   label="RedHat(hda5)"
> > > 
> > > pretty basic.
> > > 
> > > should i be asking this to a RH list?  it seems like a pretty standard
> > > question, i just don't know what i did ...
> > > 
> > 
> > Boot RH with a boot floppy (you made during install, right?) or the
> > install CD (in rescue mode).  Then run (as root) 'lilo -b
> > /dev/hda5'.  
> 
> hm -- there needs to be a lilo.conf specified also, right?  if i just
> try to run lilo -b /dev/hda5 from the rescue shell, it wants to know
> where the lilo.conf to follow is.
> 
> so i tried booting into debian, mounting /dev/hda5 to /mnt, and then
> doing:
> 
> 
> spycellar:~# lilo -b /dev/hda5 -C /dev/hda5/etc/lilo.conf 
> /dev/hda5/etc/lilo.conf: Not a directory
> spycellar:~# lilo -b /dev/hda5 -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
> Ignoring entry 'boot'
> Warning: device 0x0304 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit.
>Use of the 'lba32' option may help on newer (EDD BIOS) systems.
> Warning:  LINEAR may generate cylinder# above 1023 at boot-time.
> Fatal: Sector address 22196029 too large for LINEAR (try LBA32 instead).
> 
> 
> hm.  is this not what you meant?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> 
> 

Nori,

If you boot into Debian and mount your RH partition on /mnt, then you need to
run 'chroot /mnt lilo -b /dev/hda5' (no need to specify an odd location for
the config file).

That way, the system will temporarily pretend that /mnt is actually /

The way you are doing it, you are running /sbin/lilo (from your Debian isntall)
rather than /mnt/sbin/lilo (from your RH install).  Using chroot will correct
that problem.

Let me know how it turns out.

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Re: How long should "Updating mozilla chrome registry..." take?

2003-06-17 Thread Kent West
Harold Martin wrote:

Hi,
I'm installing Debian from within RedHat as described in the 
installation docs. The installer seems to have frozen at the "Updating 
mozilla chrome registry..." step. It's already been a half hour or so 
at this step. How long should it take?
Thanks,
Harold


On a reasonably fast machine (Pentium class, 300MHz), not more than five 
or ten minutes. If you're not in a hurry and you're on a slow machine, 
you might give it another half hour or so, but if you've got a faster 
machine (PIII, 800MHz), I'd Ctrl-C it and try again. But you might want 
to wait and see what others suggest; I'm often an idiot and will likely 
lead you astray.

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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
what version of kernel-source are you using?  I have 2.4.20-7 (from
testing) and cannot compile with gcc3.3.  


On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 13:11, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:49:44 -0700
> Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Gary Hennigan wrote:
> > 
> > > I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
> > > kernel.
> > 
> > This seems to be the common view of the kernel developers, but I've had
> > no trouble building 2.4.20 and .21 kernels using whatever gcc was
> > current in Debian unstable at the time (3.3 currently, and I just built
> > a .21 kernel the other day with it, which seems to be doing fine).
> > 
> > It may be relevant that I use kernel source tarballs from kernel.org,
> > not Debian packages, and I do not use make-kpkg.
> 
> I don't think it's really relevant.
> 
> I use both Debian kernel sources and make-kpkg, and it's not a problem for
> me.
> 
> The problems building kernels with gcc3.3 were similar to the binutils a 
> while back -- newer versions spat out bad code that earlier versions
> swallowed.
> 
> The latest version of kernel-source-2.4.20 fixes the bad code, so the kernel
> now builds with gcc3.3.
> 
> Kevin
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Re: filling the area under a curve in gnuplot

2003-06-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Gregory Seidman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.06.17.0209 +0200]:
> Hm. If you have a single data set then it shouldn't be too bad. If you have
> multiple data sets then you would have difficulty making sense of all the
> filled curves.

They are multiple data sets, and I want the area underneath one to
be filled, and then the difference between one and the other to be
filled in another colour.

I will give your awk script a try. Thanks.

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Re: ALSA won't detect SB128

2003-06-17 Thread Dr Garret Cotter
Thanks for the suggestions everyone. 

I can get dsp going by using  modprobe es1371, and that lets me get esd
going. However some apps - e.g. xmms - still won't work under that.
Which is what prompted me to try alsa. 


so with es1371 in, lsmod gives: 

ted:~# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byNot tainted
es1371 26216   1
ac97_codec  9800   0  [es1371]
gameport1596   0  [es1371]
ide-cd 26820   0  (autoclean)
cdrom  27136   0  (autoclean) [ide-cd]
input   3296   0  (autoclean)
soundcore   3588   4  (autoclean) [es1371]
apm 8840   2  (autoclean)
nls_cp437   4348   2  (autoclean)
eepro100   17972   1
mii 2416   0  [eepro100]
autofs  8980   0  (unused)
umsdos 23936   0  (unused)
msdos   4876   1  [umsdos]
vfat9292   0  (unused)
fat29496   0  [umsdos msdos vfat]
af_packet  11752   1
rtc 5788   0  (autoclean)
ext2   31744   4  (autoclean)
ext3   58048   0  (autoclean)
jbd36744   0  (autoclean) [ext3]
ide-disk9920   6  (autoclean)
ide-probe-mod   8752   0  (autoclean)
ide-mod   151816   6  (autoclean) [ide-cd ide-disk
ide-probe-mod]
unix   13736 166  (autoclean)

and the alsa section of /etc/modules.conf looks like:

### update-modules: start processing /etc/modutils/alsa
### DEBCONF MAGIC
# This file was automatically generated by alsa-base's debconf stuff
 
alias char-major-116 snd
alias char-major-14 soundcore
 
options snd major=116 cards_limit=4 device_mode=0660 device_gid=29
device_uid=0
 
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
 
 
 
### update-modules: end processing /etc/modutils/alsa
 

So I'm particularly bemused by the ``modinfo: snd: no module by that
name found'' error - well, modprobe snd also says ``modprobe: Can't
locate module snd''

So, bottom line is that I'm still silent :(

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Re: "cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake David selby:
> I need to get the first two file names from a directory ...
> My code
> 
> directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column)
> 
> works perfect and gives me ...
> 
> 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 
> 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 
> 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz
> 
> I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
> thinking this should be easy ...
> 
> cut -d' ' -f2 $directory

The problem is that when you do that, cut is interpreting the contents
of $directory to be a list of files to operate on.  This means that cut
will actually *perform the cut* on say, the contents of
20030205Feb05.tar.gz

files=$(/bin/ls -1 | tail -2)

Will leave $files containing the last 2 filenames.  It's probably best
to use it in some sort of loop,

for file in $(/bin/ls -1 | tail -2); do
  # do something with each file here
done


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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 9:25am, Gary Hennigan wrote:

:"Patrick Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 1:42am, Roberto Sanchez wrote:

[...]

:> :> Anyone know why this is not compiling?
:>
:> No, but I grabbed the 2.4.20 source and had all sorts of other problems.
:> I'm on a 'testing' system; you too?  I suspect it's the testing gcc which
:> is causing the problem (from Googling another error I was getting trying
:> to compile 2.4.20).  Can anyone confirm?
:
:I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
:kernel. There are exceptions, but the easiest route is to use gcc-2.95
:for compiling kernel source. You can do this by editing the
:kernel-source-2.4.20/Makefile and setting HOSTCC=gcc-2.95 and
:CC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc-2.95. If you have external modules you're
:building then you'll also want to add CC=gcc-2.95 to the
:environment. Like:
:
:   CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage kernel_image
:
:and then
:
:CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage modules_image

Thanks!  That worked.  I should pay closer attention - I didn't even know
I still had 2.95 on the system after upgrading, if that's the word, to
testing.

Patrick

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Re: "cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread Craig Dickson
David selby wrote:

> I need to get the first two file names from a directory ...
> My code
> 
> directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column)
> 
> works perfect and gives me ...
> 
> 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 
> 20030614Jun14.tar.gz 20030613Jun13.tar.gz 20030612Jun12.tar.gz 
> 20030611Jun11.tar.gz 20030610Jun10.tar.gz 20030609Jun09.tar.gz 
> 20030608Jun08.tar.gz 20030607Jun07.tar.gz 20030606Jun06.tar.gz 
> 20030605Jun05.tar.gz 20030604Jun04.tar.gz 20030603Jun03.tar.gz 
> 20030602Jun02.tar.gz 20030601Jun01.tar.gz 20030531May31.tar.gz 
> 20030530May30.tar.gz 20030529May29.tar.gz 20030528May28.tar.gz 
> 20030527May27.tar.gz 20030526May26.tar.gz 20030525May25.tar.gz 
> 20030524May24.tar.gz 20030523May23.tar.gz 20030522May22.tar.gz 
> 20030521May21.tar.gz 20030520May20.tar.gz 20030519May19.tar.gz 
> 20030518May18.tar.gz 20030517May17.tar.gz 20030516May16.tar.gz 
> 20030515May15.tar.gz 20030514May14.tar.gz 20030513May13.tar.gz 
> 20030512May12.tar.gz 20030511May11.tar.gz 20030510May10.tar.gz 
> 20030509May09.tar.gz 20030508May08.tar.gz 20030507May07.tar.gz 
> 20030506May06.tar.gz 20030505May05.tar.gz 20030504May04.tar.gz 
> 20030503May03.tar.gz 20030426Apr26.tar.gz 20030419Apr19.tar.gz 
> 20030412Apr12.tar.gz 20030405Apr05.tar.gz 20030329Mar29.tar.gz 
> 20030322Mar22.tar.gz 20030315Mar15.tar.gz 20030308Mar08.tar.gz 
> 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 
> 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz
> 
> I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
> thinking this should be easy ...
> 
> cut -d' ' -f2 $directory
> 
> The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say 
> that the white space between .gz & 200... may not be space but may have 
> a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII 
> for a file yet to check this out.

Read the man page for cut(1) again very carefully. The text to be cut is
_not_ taken from the command line. The command line specifies a
_filename_ to read from. So cut is reading from 20030617Jun17.tar.gz,
which isn't what you want.

This will work:

echo $directory | cut -d ' ' -f 1-2

Craig


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Re: "cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread Jonathan Matthews
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 08:54:59PM +0100, David selby wrote:
> I need to get the first two file names from a directory ...

If that's the spec, then I'd do

ls | head -2

and that'd give you the first two files, unless you have 'ls' aliased to 
something else (ls -C, perhaps ..?)

> My code
> 
> directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column)
> 
> works perfect and gives me ...
> 
> 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 
> 20030614Jun14.tar.gz 20030613Jun13.tar.gz 20030612Jun12.tar.gz 
> 20030611Jun11.tar.gz 20030610Jun10.tar.gz 20030609Jun09.tar.gz 
> 20030608Jun08.tar.gz 20030607Jun07.tar.gz 20030606Jun06.tar.gz 
> 20030605Jun05.tar.gz 20030604Jun04.tar.gz 20030603Jun03.tar.gz 
> 20030602Jun02.tar.gz 20030601Jun01.tar.gz 20030531May31.tar.gz 
> 20030530May30.tar.gz 20030529May29.tar.gz 20030528May28.tar.gz 
> 20030527May27.tar.gz 20030526May26.tar.gz 20030525May25.tar.gz 
> 20030524May24.tar.gz 20030523May23.tar.gz 20030522May22.tar.gz 
> 20030521May21.tar.gz 20030520May20.tar.gz 20030519May19.tar.gz 
> 20030518May18.tar.gz 20030517May17.tar.gz 20030516May16.tar.gz 
> 20030515May15.tar.gz 20030514May14.tar.gz 20030513May13.tar.gz 
> 20030512May12.tar.gz 20030511May11.tar.gz 20030510May10.tar.gz 
> 20030509May09.tar.gz 20030508May08.tar.gz 20030507May07.tar.gz 
> 20030506May06.tar.gz 20030505May05.tar.gz 20030504May04.tar.gz 
> 20030503May03.tar.gz 20030426Apr26.tar.gz 20030419Apr19.tar.gz 
> 20030412Apr12.tar.gz 20030405Apr05.tar.gz 20030329Mar29.tar.gz 
> 20030322Mar22.tar.gz 20030315Mar15.tar.gz 20030308Mar08.tar.gz 
> 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 
> 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz
> 
> I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
> thinking this should be easy ...

So you mean the first two files from each triple?
That's not what your "ls -r --format=single-column" is going to give 
you, I'm afraid.

> cut -d' ' -f2 $directory

Notwithstanding what I've just said, I'd do the following instead of 
that line:

echo $directory | cut -d' ' -f2

> The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say 
> that the white space between .gz & 200... may not be space but may have 
> a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII 
> for a file yet to check this out.

No idea, sorry.  Have you any reason to believe that the filenames have 
wierd characters in them?

> I am a relative begginer at learning bash ...

Don't worry - there's a definate "ah HA" point when it clicks :-)

HTH,
  jc


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Re: Writing on Windows partition

2003-06-17 Thread Jules Agee
Piero wrote:

Is it possible to put the option gid=winusers in /etc/fstab ? I couldn't 
 figure out from man.

Thanks - Piero.
Yes, replace the word "defaults" with the options you want, i.e. 
gid=winusers

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How long should "Updating mozilla chrome registry..." take?

2003-06-17 Thread Harold Martin
Hi,
I'm installing Debian from within RedHat as described in the 
installation docs. The installer seems to have frozen at the "Updating 
mozilla chrome registry..." step. It's already been a half hour or so 
at this step. How long should it take?
Thanks,
Harold

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Re: C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters) call?

2003-06-17 Thread Nathan Poznick
Thus spake Shaul Karl:
>   I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec
> call. Yet when I run 
> 
> man exec
> 
> I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one
> without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is
> definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another
> interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is
> the return code and where is it documented?

As far as I know, 'exec' is a shell command, execl,  execv,  execle,
execlp and execvp are the C functions.


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Re: C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters) call?

2003-06-17 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi!

On Tue Jun 17, 2003 at 10:29:25PM +0300, Shaul Karl wrote:
>   I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec
> call. Yet when I run 
> 
> man exec

This is exec(3) which documents the exec family calls. AFAIK there is no
POSIX exec() function. Please install the glibc-doc package which
includes the info pages of GNU libc. This documenation is far better
than the rudimentary man pages (if you know what you're doing the man
pages ARE better, but ...).

> I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one
> without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is
> definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another
> interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is
> the return code and where is it documented?

exec is a bash builtin. If you want to simulate it in C try this code:

/* always include the calling filename of the prog as
 * 2nd parameter to execlp as it's evaluated as argv[0]
 * in the resulting process
 */
execlp ("ps", "ps", "x", NULL);
/* if we are here, there was an error */
perror ("execlp failed");
exit (1);

This code snippet will lookup the PATH environment and search for the
"ps" executable. It will execute it and will pass "ps" as argv[0] and
"x" as argv[1]. It is equivalent to:

$ ps x

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Re: "cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
You could do:
directory=$(ls -1 | tail -2)

this lists each file one at a time, and then gets the last 2 lines



On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:54, David selby wrote:
> I need to get the first two file names from a directory ...
> My code
> 
> directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column)
> 
> works perfect and gives me ...
> 
> 20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 
> 20030614Jun14.tar.gz 20030613Jun13.tar.gz 20030612Jun12.tar.gz 
> 20030611Jun11.tar.gz 20030610Jun10.tar.gz 20030609Jun09.tar.gz 
> 20030608Jun08.tar.gz 20030607Jun07.tar.gz 20030606Jun06.tar.gz 
> 20030605Jun05.tar.gz 20030604Jun04.tar.gz 20030603Jun03.tar.gz 
> 20030602Jun02.tar.gz 20030601Jun01.tar.gz 20030531May31.tar.gz 
> 20030530May30.tar.gz 20030529May29.tar.gz 20030528May28.tar.gz 
> 20030527May27.tar.gz 20030526May26.tar.gz 20030525May25.tar.gz 
> 20030524May24.tar.gz 20030523May23.tar.gz 20030522May22.tar.gz 
> 20030521May21.tar.gz 20030520May20.tar.gz 20030519May19.tar.gz 
> 20030518May18.tar.gz 20030517May17.tar.gz 20030516May16.tar.gz 
> 20030515May15.tar.gz 20030514May14.tar.gz 20030513May13.tar.gz 
> 20030512May12.tar.gz 20030511May11.tar.gz 20030510May10.tar.gz 
> 20030509May09.tar.gz 20030508May08.tar.gz 20030507May07.tar.gz 
> 20030506May06.tar.gz 20030505May05.tar.gz 20030504May04.tar.gz 
> 20030503May03.tar.gz 20030426Apr26.tar.gz 20030419Apr19.tar.gz 
> 20030412Apr12.tar.gz 20030405Apr05.tar.gz 20030329Mar29.tar.gz 
> 20030322Mar22.tar.gz 20030315Mar15.tar.gz 20030308Mar08.tar.gz 
> 20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 
> 20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz
> 
> I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
> thinking this should be easy ...
> 
> cut -d' ' -f2 $directory
> 
> The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say 
> that the white space between .gz & 200... may not be space but may have 
> a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII 
> for a file yet to check this out.
> 
> I am a relative begginer at learning bash ...
> 
> Any suggestions
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
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Re: open office compatibility

2003-06-17 Thread Aryan Ameri
On Tuesday 17 June 2003 20:30, ian wrote:
> Is Open Office v1.0.3.1 compatible with woody (kern. ver. 2.4.18)?

What do you mean, by application being compatible with a specific 
kernel? drivers might need kernel compatibility, but applications do 
not care about the kernel version.

I have seen OOo work on 2.2, 2.4, and 2.5 kernel. It will probably also 
work on 2.0 if anyone is interested in doing such a thing.

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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin McKinley
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 09:49:44 -0700
Craig Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary Hennigan wrote:
> 
> > I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
> > kernel.
> 
> This seems to be the common view of the kernel developers, but I've had
> no trouble building 2.4.20 and .21 kernels using whatever gcc was
> current in Debian unstable at the time (3.3 currently, and I just built
> a .21 kernel the other day with it, which seems to be doing fine).
> 
> It may be relevant that I use kernel source tarballs from kernel.org,
> not Debian packages, and I do not use make-kpkg.

I don't think it's really relevant.

I use both Debian kernel sources and make-kpkg, and it's not a problem for
me.

The problems building kernels with gcc3.3 were similar to the binutils a 
while back -- newer versions spat out bad code that earlier versions
swallowed.

The latest version of kernel-source-2.4.20 fixes the bad code, so the kernel
now builds with gcc3.3.

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Re: fatal error on RH partition

2003-06-17 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Tue, 17 Jun 2003 01:53:30AM +0200, Roberto Sanchez insinuated:
>  --- Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> > hey all,
> > 
> > in trying to partition this machine up and install various OSes on it,
> > i've managed to screw up a lot.  there's a redhat install on a
> > different partition, and though i can mount it, i can't boot into it.
> > 
> > more specifically, if i add a stanza (really basic, like below) to my
> > /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo, i get the following error:
> > 
> > Fatal: First sector of /dev/hda5 doesn't have a valid boot signature
> > 
> > the stanza i add to /etc/lilo.conf looks like this:
> > 
> > other=/dev/hda5
> >   label="RedHat(hda5)"
> > 
> > pretty basic.
> > 
> > should i be asking this to a RH list?  it seems like a pretty standard
> > question, i just don't know what i did ...
> > 
> 
> Boot RH with a boot floppy (you made during install, right?) or the
> install CD (in rescue mode).  Then run (as root) 'lilo -b
> /dev/hda5'.  

hm -- there needs to be a lilo.conf specified also, right?  if i just
try to run lilo -b /dev/hda5 from the rescue shell, it wants to know
where the lilo.conf to follow is.

so i tried booting into debian, mounting /dev/hda5 to /mnt, and then
doing:


spycellar:~# lilo -b /dev/hda5 -C /dev/hda5/etc/lilo.conf 
/dev/hda5/etc/lilo.conf: Not a directory
spycellar:~# lilo -b /dev/hda5 -C /mnt/etc/lilo.conf
Ignoring entry 'boot'
Warning: device 0x0304 exceeds 1024 cylinder limit.
   Use of the 'lba32' option may help on newer (EDD BIOS) systems.
Warning:  LINEAR may generate cylinder# above 1023 at boot-time.
Fatal: Sector address 22196029 too large for LINEAR (try LBA32 instead).


hm.  is this not what you meant?

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Re: [OT]What is Dynix

2003-06-17 Thread christophe barbe
On a very good article concerning RCU (the code that SCO
pretends is his property even if they have nothing to do with it)
   http://lwn.net/Articles/36164/ (you have to be subscribed to lwn or
wait a few days)
Jonathan corbet provides this url to an archived version of the
sequent.com website (including DYNIX info):
http://web.archive.org/web/20001109190800/www.sequent.com/software/operatingsys/

If you are interested by the technical side of the SCO shameful
allegation, you should subscribe to lwn.net.

Christophe

On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 05:50:29PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote:
> Hi there:
> 
> in the article:
> http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1017719.html
>  
> they mention Dynix:
> 
> "Specifically, Sontag said IBM moved technology to Linux from AIX and 
> another version of Unix called Dynix that IBM acquired when it bought 
> Sequent. "
> 
> I have been trying really hard, to learn as much as possible about 
> different Unix variants, but to date, I have never heard of a Unix 
> called Dynix. Can anyone tell me what kind of OS it is/was ? 
> 
> Cheers
> -- 
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> right thing; - after they've tried everything else.
>Winston Churchill */
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> 
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"cut" command not working as expected

2003-06-17 Thread David selby
I need to get the first two file names from a directory ...
My code
directory=$(ls -r --format=single-column)

works perfect and gives me ...

20030617Jun17.tar.gz 20030616Jun16.tar.gz 20030615Jun15.tar.gz 
20030614Jun14.tar.gz 20030613Jun13.tar.gz 20030612Jun12.tar.gz 
20030611Jun11.tar.gz 20030610Jun10.tar.gz 20030609Jun09.tar.gz 
20030608Jun08.tar.gz 20030607Jun07.tar.gz 20030606Jun06.tar.gz 
20030605Jun05.tar.gz 20030604Jun04.tar.gz 20030603Jun03.tar.gz 
20030602Jun02.tar.gz 20030601Jun01.tar.gz 20030531May31.tar.gz 
20030530May30.tar.gz 20030529May29.tar.gz 20030528May28.tar.gz 
20030527May27.tar.gz 20030526May26.tar.gz 20030525May25.tar.gz 
20030524May24.tar.gz 20030523May23.tar.gz 20030522May22.tar.gz 
20030521May21.tar.gz 20030520May20.tar.gz 20030519May19.tar.gz 
20030518May18.tar.gz 20030517May17.tar.gz 20030516May16.tar.gz 
20030515May15.tar.gz 20030514May14.tar.gz 20030513May13.tar.gz 
20030512May12.tar.gz 20030511May11.tar.gz 20030510May10.tar.gz 
20030509May09.tar.gz 20030508May08.tar.gz 20030507May07.tar.gz 
20030506May06.tar.gz 20030505May05.tar.gz 20030504May04.tar.gz 
20030503May03.tar.gz 20030426Apr26.tar.gz 20030419Apr19.tar.gz 
20030412Apr12.tar.gz 20030405Apr05.tar.gz 20030329Mar29.tar.gz 
20030322Mar22.tar.gz 20030315Mar15.tar.gz 20030308Mar08.tar.gz 
20030301Mar01.tar.gz 20030222Feb22.tar.gz 20030215Feb15.tar.gz 
20030208Feb08.tar.gz 20030205Feb05.tar.gz

I want to cut the first two file names from the list ... To my way of 
thinking this should be easy ...

cut -d' ' -f2 $directory

The xterm goes nuts and ends up in hyroglyphics ! At a guess I would say 
that the white space between .gz & 200... may not be space but may have 
a different ascii value. I have not found a utility to display raw ASCII 
for a file yet to check this out.

I am a relative begginer at learning bash ...

Any suggestions

Dave



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Re: program startup at boot

2003-06-17 Thread Shaul Karl
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 04:58:26PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How do I controle it the way program or script will startup at boot every time 
> after a reboot or powerfailure
> 


  Perhaps by using /etc/init.d/your_script, and update-rc.d?
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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Jozsef Bakosi
I use the deb-packages. On Unstable: kernel-package (8.040), gcc(3.3-2), 
kernel-source-2.4.20 (2.4.20-8). I also had problems before, which could 
be solved by changing the Makefile back to gcc-2.95 (eg. it compiled), 
but now, with the packages above, everything seems to be just fine.

Best wishes,
Jozsef
Craig Dickson wrote:
Gary Hennigan wrote:


I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
kernel.


This seems to be the common view of the kernel developers, but I've had
no trouble building 2.4.20 and .21 kernels using whatever gcc was
current in Debian unstable at the time (3.3 currently, and I just built
a .21 kernel the other day with it, which seems to be doing fine).
It may be relevant that I use kernel source tarballs from kernel.org,
not Debian packages, and I do not use make-kpkg.
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Re: OT: Malformed date header? (was: Re: Re: Kernel penguin logo?)

2003-06-17 Thread christophe barbe
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:14:26PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Dec 31, 1969 at 11:59:59PM +, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> 
> The webmail service you're using is creating the following 
> 
> Date: Thu 12 Jun 2003 13:32:37 +0200
> 
> This is missing the ',' following 'Thu'.  Result is that your mail
> appears to have been sent on Dec 31, 1969 (one day prior to the epoch).
> 
> I'm curious as to whether this is a bug with your mail service, or mutt.

On a related topic, is there a way to instruct procmail to fix broken
date on the flight. I would be happy to get rid of old mails showing at
the end of the mailbox because the sender believes we already are in
2010.

Thanks,
Christophe

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C programming: Is there an exec (with no additional letters) call?

2003-06-17 Thread Shaul Karl
  I was told that similar to execl, execlp et al there is also an exec
call. Yet when I run 

man exec

I only get execl, execlp, execle, execv and execvp. No `pure' exec, one
without any additional letters. Can I safely tell that person that he is
definitely confusing the C system calls with shell or another
interpreted language? If not, what arguments does exec takes, what is
the return code and where is it documented?
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Re: exim-tls just says "no, stupid!"

2003-06-17 Thread Will Trillich
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 11:42:34AM -0400, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:17:38AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
> | (certificate and public key seem okay; i'm even able to grok the
> | syntax to have an authenticator pull password fields out of a
> | "htpasswd"-created file...)
> 
> That sounds good.
> 
> May I suggest using exim or some other Debian tool to verify that exim
> itself is working with TLS (and/or AUTH)?
> 
> (the AUTH PLAIN part is easy, using telnet)

i can probably find the exim testing options (didn't think to
look, of course -- thanks!) but "other debian tool" is a bit
vague. what would i apt-cache search for?

> BTW, I *think* I have exim working with TLS, but
> 1)  I am using exim 4, not 3.x

i'm using woody/stable:
$ exim -bV
Exim version 3.35 #1 built 04-Mar-2002 23:05:40
Copyright (c) University of Cambridge 2001

> 2)  I don't actually use it apart from testing way back when I
> configured it, so I don't remember if it is actually there
> or not.  If you want to experiment with it, you're welcome
> to.  Just let me know before hand because, IIRC, I have
> STARTTLS only advertised to certain clients.

"want to experiment with it" means... what? :)

> Q: What is the difference betwee open-source and commercial software?
s/wee/ween/
> A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone
>number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version.
>For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you
>get the solution within a day.

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Re: Printer installed with CUPS- Unable to print

2003-06-17 Thread SRIKANTH NS
Hi All

Follow up to my original posting:

At home I have RH7.3. Nothing special but a typical install. In that
when I opened a document in kword and file--print was given in that
"cups" was there in the programs used for printing along with other 4
I mentioned in OP.
So, my orignal question : How to get the option of printing using
"cups" in other programs like kword or openoffice?

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Re: Fwd: image contents

2003-06-17 Thread Jozsef Bakosi
Henry-

if it's a basic debian install (even if it's not) I would consider 
dowloading only the first (or maybe the first two) images. If you have 
acces to net with reasonable speed, you should definetly only dl the 
first one and update after you have installed a basic system or only 
some disk-image.

Regards,
Jozsef
Henry Favretto wrote:

i wonder if there is any documentation available about the contents of the cd
images for the unstable distribution as available through
ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid/jigdo/
i know the images are auto-generated but there are currently 10 available and i
don't want to d/l everything... of course i could wade through the .template
files to see what packages are contained, but that's a bit annoying.. i would
like to have something like a summary helping me to decide what images to get...
any help appreciated.
-henry



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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Craig Dickson
Gary Hennigan wrote:

> I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
> kernel.

This seems to be the common view of the kernel developers, but I've had
no trouble building 2.4.20 and .21 kernels using whatever gcc was
current in Debian unstable at the time (3.3 currently, and I just built
a .21 kernel the other day with it, which seems to be doing fine).

It may be relevant that I use kernel source tarballs from kernel.org,
not Debian packages, and I do not use make-kpkg.

Craig


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program startup at boot

2003-06-17 Thread ingirafn
How do I controle it the way program or script will startup at boot every time 
after a reboot or powerfailure

Ingirafn


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KERNEL PANIC IN A NOTEBook

2003-06-17 Thread Alexandre Passito
Debian users;
 
I'm traying to install a Debian/Gnu Linux in a notebook.
I installed a i386 Debian version / network from www.debian.com
 
When I finished the instalation a error ocurred:
 
Kernel Panic
Attempted to kill the idle tesk
In interrupt handler-not syncing 
 
Please, if know this error help me in this challenge.
 
See ya
 
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OT: Malformed date header? (was: Re: Re: Kernel penguin logo?)

2003-06-17 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Dec 31, 1969 at 11:59:59PM +, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

The webmail service you're using is creating the following 

Date: Thu 12 Jun 2003 13:32:37 +0200

This is missing the ',' following 'Thu'.  Result is that your mail
appears to have been sent on Dec 31, 1969 (one day prior to the epoch).

I'm curious as to whether this is a bug with your mail service, or mutt.

> 
>  Joel Konkle-Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>   
> >Benedict Verheyen wrote:
> >> Yesterday, i compiled my own kernel and specified vesa frame buffer
> >> support. Then i set vga= in the lilo.conf where
> >>  is a decimal mode specified
> >> in the kernel source directory docs. Read the docs
> >> Documentation\fb\framebuffer.txt and Documentation\svga.txt.
> >
> >That must be the problem. /boot/config-2.4.18-bf2.4 shows 
> >CONFIG_FB_VESA=y, while /boot/config-2.4.18-1-686 shows # CONFIG_FB_VESA 
> >is not set.
> 
> I didn't have a problem when i compiled my kernel. I was merely
> explaining what he could do to get the penguin logo. I'm going to change 
> mine to the debian logo.
> 
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Re: image contents

2003-06-17 Thread Henry Favretto
yes i have, but i thought i could get a more up to date version with jigdo...

Quoting Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 08:38, Henry Favretto wrote:
> > sorry for double posting... some problem with my client.. ;)
> Hi Henry, 
> if you are looking to install a basic debian,
> have you considered:
> a knoppix HD install (large base install) or
> using Bonsai Linux (tiny base install)
> -K
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backporting Questions

2003-06-17 Thread Elliot Dray
Hello,

I've been reading this list for months, over and over again I see that we 
(users) are discouraged from running mixed environments, many good reasons 
have been given for not running mixed environments. Often the alternative of 
backporting the application from testing or unstable has been provided as a 
solution. I have a number of questions about backporting. Please snip and 
don't top post in your responses (makes it more readable)

1) when you issue the command "apt-get -b build-dep" what exactly does the 
build-dep do, does it install dependencies from the branch your trying to 
install the package from?
1a) when it lists the files to be installed, what happens if they have 
dependencies, do you have to keep drilling down?
1b) is there a script out there to automate the drill down?
1c)do you end up with a system at testing or unstable by stealth, because it 
has recursively installed so many products?
2) will these dependency files overwrite existing files?
3) can you remove these dependant files after you've managed to install your 
package, as one email I found indicated?
4) if a package is very easy to backport, why isn't this done as part of the 
original build process?
5) In one email I saw this command " apt-get -b build-dep 
packagename/testing", this format didn't work for me as apt tried to find 
packagename/testing instead of packagename in the testing branch. Is this 
suppose to work?

regards

Elliot

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Re: Where to keep .gnupg?

2003-06-17 Thread Kirk Strauser
At 2003-06-17T15:14:57Z, Nathan Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That's my plan as soon as I can afford to spend $20 on anything, which
> will probably be after I graduate.

You're a college student and haven't discovered the lure of selling plasma?
For shame, for shame.

> So I've heard.  It appears that my drive was on its last legs.  It's not
> dead, more like undead, killing every disk it touches.

Yep.  Even worse: the undeath is probably viral.  Those disks may very well
taint any drive they touch, which will likely infect any disks that are put
in it...

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Re: Filtering IMAP messages in Evolution

2003-06-17 Thread Angel L. Mateo
Bijan Soleymani escribió:
I'm having trouble filtering messages in evolution. I get my email
through IMAP. I simply want to filter my messages, so that messages from
various mailing lists go into appropriate folders. I set up a series of
filters (if X-Mailing-List contain debian, etc.) but it seems that
evolution doesn't ever run them.
	I have a similar behaviour. Although evolution filter some messages, 
others not.

	But, check that you have selected the option to filter messages in your 
IMAP inbox folder. At this moment, I don't have access to my computer, 
but I think it is under the receive options of your mail account's 
preferences.

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Switching from Mutt to Evoultion

2003-06-17 Thread Brad Cramer
I am switching from Mutt to Evolution (because I am using Outlook at
work and want to try and keeps things the same) Anyway I am not really
sure how to set some things up. I have a mail server running on my home
network which handles fetching my mail and also sending. I then have my
box that I am running Evolution on that runs fetchmail as a daemon to
collect mail from home mail server. Before I used procmail and mutt sort
mail ( I subscribe to several mailing lists and really like the way that
setup worked from within Mutt) But I am not really sure how to set up
something similar in Evolution, so I get my personal mail from work and
home into my Inbox and mailing lists mail sorted and put into the
various folders.
Would someone like to provide me with some pointers and sites that can
help me with this transition.
Thanks
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Re: Problems with Debian unstable, Linux 2.4.21 and Nvidia?

2003-06-17 Thread Reinhold Schoeb
Andreas Daab wrote:

> I had problems to compile the kernel module wrapper from nvidia drivers
> with gcc 3.3.
> Following steps should solve the problem:
> 1. Compile and run kernel 2.4.21 with gcc 3.3 (RTFM for details)
> 2. Extract nvidia source with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run --extract-only
> 3. Open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363/usr/src/nv/Makefile with your favourite
> editor
> 4. change the gcc-check section to
> gcc-check:
> exit 0;\
> 5. Install the wrapper with make
> Step 4 solves the problem with the gcc version check.
> 
> 

Thanks! I got the same problem. 

Reinhold


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Copy program from windows to fake_windows

2003-06-17 Thread Savio Ramos
Hello,

I can't install a program using wine. If I configure wine with windows partiton the 
program works but very slowly.

By experience I copied all files that program installed in windows partition to 
fake_windows but it don't work.

Can I copy the files from win partition and edit by hand system.reg of ~/wine?

If a make this the program will work better?

How can I do that?

I think that the problem is related to this three files:
DAO350   DLL, MSVBVM60 DLL, MSVBVM50 DLL

Above is all the files that the program installed in windows partition

Thank's
Savio.



Pasta de C:\Arquivos de programas\Arquivos comuns\Microsoft Shared\DAO

DAO350   DLL   570.128  27/04/98   0:00 DAO350.DLL


Pasta de C:\Arquivos de programas\SISUPFOR

SISUPFOR MDB 5.201.920  18/01/01  15:20 sisupfor.mdb
ST6UNST  LOG 5.943  06/06/03  16:05 ST6UNST.LOG
SISUPFOR EXE 1.429.504  19/01/01  10:23 SISUPFOR.exe

Pasta de C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM

MSJINT35 DLL   123.664  24/04/98   0:00 MSJINT35.DLL
MSVBVM50 DLL 1.355.776  15/10/98  12:04 MSVBVM50.DLL
SISUPGR  OCX27.648  08/02/00  14:42 SISUPGR.OCX
VB6STKIT DLL   101.888  26/03/99   0:00 VB6STKIT.DLL
MSVBVM60 DLL 1.388.544  27/05/00   0:00 MSVBVM60.DLL
PRINTP~1 OCX34.304  08/02/00  14:42 PrintPreview.ocx
COMDLG32 OCX   140.288  07/05/99   0:00 comdlg32.ocx
ACTIVE~1 OCX25.088  08/02/00  14:42 ActiveZipper.ocx
COMCTL32 OCX   608.448  22/05/00   0:00 COMCTL32.OCX
VB5DBDLL89.360  18/06/98   0:00 VB5DB.DLL
MSRD2X35 DLL   252.176  24/04/98   0:00 MSRD2X35.DLL
MSJTER35 DLL24.848  24/04/98   0:00 MSJTER35.DLL
EXPSRV   DLL   379.152  28/07/00  14:19 expsrv.dll
MSMASK32 OCX   166.408  04/07/99  23:00 MSMASK32.OCX
DBGRID32 OCX   525.352  24/06/98   0:00 DBGRID32.OCX
MSFLXGRD OCX   244.232  06/05/99  23:00 MSFLXGRD.OCX
COMCT232 OCX   164.144  24/06/98   0:00 COMCT232.OCX
TABCTL32 OCX   209.608  22/05/00   0:00 TABCTL32.OCX


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Re: KERNEL PANIC IN A NOTEBook

2003-06-17 Thread Mario Vukelic
[I reply to the list and to you personally. Please note that usually
replying personally is considered a violation of Debian mailing list
rules, since most people don't want to get mails twice. But you sound
newbie enough for me to make sure you get the mail :) ] 

On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 18:50, Alexandre Passito wrote:

> Kernel Panic
> Attempted to kill the idle tesk
> In interrupt handler-not syncing 

Maybe this post to the portuguese debian users lists help
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2002/debian-user-portuguese-200203/msg00199.html

In general: it seems like a hard to debug problem. Probably either
faulty hardware or some combination of faulty driver and specific 
hardware. If you search for "Attempted to kill the idle task" (note:
"task", not "tesk") on Google, you'll see that it comes up in a lot of
different contexts: faulty RAM, development kernels, lots of different
hardware. If I were you, I'd try to install a 2.4.21 kernel and see if
it goes away. Maybe some driver has been fixed (and there were lots of
fixes in 2.4.21, some of my own pc's problems went away). If not, see if
you can find info on your specific laptop model via Google or
http://www.linux-laptop.net/ . Also, try to find out which hardware
/exactly/ your laptop contains (contact your vendor or something) and
try to find out if there's a known problem with a component. And tell
the list which hardware you use, maybe someone can help.

But these solutions are all hard things to do for a newbie. So maybe
your best bet at the moment is to try to find someone near you who has
good linux experience (maybe there is a Linux User Group near where you
live). Also, you can try to install another Distribution, as most of
them have newer software than woody. Try RedHat or Mandrake, or if you
want to stay on the Debian path, try Libranet (commercial Debian variant
with much newer software) or Knoppix (Debian variant, also with newer
software. It runs from CD, so you can try it out without having to erase
your current install)

Good luck


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Re: Writing on Windows partition

2003-06-17 Thread Piero
Kent West wrote:
Piero wrote:

How can I properly write on my Windows partition without logging as root?

I tried to create a group on purpose for this, and change group 
ownersip  of this partition from the root group to this new group, but 
this operation was doomed illegitimate. May be it is possible to 
overcome this impossibility, may be there are better solutions.


If it's an NTFS partition, you don't want to write to it (experimental 
support; bad things can happen). If it's VFAT/FAT16/FAT32, that's okay.

In such a case, you need to feed the UID or GID option to the mount 
command, something like:

 sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/Winders -o gid=winusers

assuming "winusers" is the name of your group you've created.

Is it possible to put the option gid=winusers in /etc/fstab ? I couldn't 
 figure out from man.

Thanks - Piero.

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Re: Filtering IMAP messages in Evolution

2003-06-17 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 19:23, Angel L. Mateo wrote:
> it seems that
> > evolution doesn't ever run them.

Funny, I run courier-imapd, and Evo filters fine as long as only one
client accesses the account. When I have evo running on both PCs, it
stops filtering


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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Brian P. Flaherty
"Gary Hennigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
> kernel. There are exceptions, but the easiest route is to use gcc-2.95
> for compiling kernel source. You can do this by editing the
> kernel-source-2.4.20/Makefile and setting HOSTCC=gcc-2.95 and
> CC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc-2.95. If you have external modules you're
> building then you'll also want to add CC=gcc-2.95 to the
> environment. Like:
>
>CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage kernel_image
>
> and then
>
> CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage modules_image

I bumped into this problem as well yesterday and found builder-cc.  I
am running testing and gcc-3.3 is the default, but builder-cc gives
you two environment variables to set the architecture and gcc-version.
So, instead of editing files, I set DEBIAN_BUILDARCH=pentium and
DEBIAN_BUILDGCCVER=2.95 and off I went.  I assume this will work with
kernel compilation as well as any other compliation.  I was building a
new kernel module and gcc-3.3 was having a lot of problems with my old
kernel source.  See man builder-cc.  Also, thanks to whoever thought of
this way to manage multiple gcc versions.

Brian



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Re: program startup at boot

2003-06-17 Thread M. Kirchhoff
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

> How do I controle it the way program or script will startup at boot every
> time 
> after a reboot or powerfailure
> 
> Ingirafn
> 
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See the following for a good introduction to runlevels:
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/runlevels-intro.html

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Re: open office compatibility

2003-06-17 Thread Clive Menzies
On (17/06/03 12:30), ian wrote:
> 
> Is Open Office v1.0.3.1 compatible with woody (kern. ver. 2.4.18)?
> ian 
>
We're running 1.0.3-2 on 2 PC's and a G4, all running woody (2.4.18).
The PC's are fine but OpenOfficeCalc is unstable on the Mac side
(Crashes on opening quite often).

I am getting some help on this from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HTH

Clive


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open office compatibility

2003-06-17 Thread ian
Is Open Office v1.0.3.1 compatible with woody (kern. ver. 2.4.18)?
ian 

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Re: Unidentified subject!

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 10:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello, two questions. 
> Is there a good gnutella console server and client in stable or maby unstable?
> 
> Also where can I controle so a program will go on automaticly on boot up ?
> 
like most UN*x system, there are 'runlevels'. 
do:
man init
for more info.
These are programs that are mean to start at boot-up. The actual
program/script is placed in /etc/init.d/. Then a symbolic links is
placed in /etc/rcX.d/, where X is the runlevel you want it to run in.
There is a command for this in debian that I do not recall.
-K
> Thank you. 
> 
> Ingirafn Steinarsson
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Re: KERNEL PANIC IN A NOTEBook

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:50, Alexandre Passito wrote:
> Debian users;
>  
> I'm traying to install a Debian/Gnu Linux in a notebook.
> I installed a i386 Debian version / network from www.debian.com
Hi Alexandre,
it is very helpfull to provide as much detail as possible.
What make/model is your notebook. What video card and sound card does it
use. How much ram does it have. Also,
Did you install debian from CD's, with floppy disks or some other way.
Are you using LILO or GRUB as your boot loader.
HTH.
-Kev
>  
> When I finished the instalation a error ocurred:
>  
> Kernel Panic
> Attempted to kill the idle tesk
> In interrupt handler-not syncing 
>  
> Please, if know this error help me in this challenge.
>  
> See ya
>  
> Alexandre Passito 
>  
>  
> 
> __
> MSN Hotmail, o maior webmail do Brasil. Faça o seu agora. 
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Re: image contents

2003-06-17 Thread Kevin Mark
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 08:38, Henry Favretto wrote:
> sorry for double posting... some problem with my client.. ;)
Hi Henry, 
if you are looking to install a basic debian,
have you considered:
a knoppix HD install (large base install) or
using Bonsai Linux (tiny base install)
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Re: Cirrus Logic 7556, Xfree86 3.3, and Woody

2003-06-17 Thread Ben Kal
On 9 Jun 2003 root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm new to Debian and not a Linux expert, but I wanted to learn more  
> about Debian (vs. HedHat). I took an old laptop that was running RH 7.3  
> and installed Woody from CD. It became clear after a bit of log-looking  
> that the video chipset was no longer supported in xfree86 4.1, but  
> appeared to be in xfree86 3.3 so I removed xfree86 and installed  
> xserver-common 3.3. Some of the 4.1 apps wanted to load too. I don't  
> know which xfree86 4.1 apps play nicely with 3.3.
>
> Following is the log file after this downgrade to 3.3 after installing   a
> basic Woody with X on an AST Ascentia M Series (Cirrus Logic 7556   video,
> c.f., www.astro.umd.edu/~teuben/linux/laptop/ast-m.html).
>
> This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. 
> Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please
> check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository
> (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs)
>
> XFree86 Version 4.1.0.1 / X Window System
  ~~~
You say you downgraded to xfree86 3.3, but the log says you are still
starting version 4.1. .

> [snip]

> (--) PCI:*(0:2:0) Cirrus Logic unknown chipset (0x004c) rev 0, Mem @ 0xfd00/24
>
> [snip]
>
> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device
> (EE) No devices detected.
>
> Fatal server error:
> no screens found

I would check 'Section "Device"' and 'Section "Screen"' in
  /etc/X11/XF86Config-4  if starting xfree86 4.1  (as you effectively do now)
  /etc/X11/XF86Configif starting xfree86 3.3  (as you intend to do)
The (EE) message and 'Fatal server error' message suggest there is something
wrong with those 'Sections'.
Or else the preceding (--) messages about your video card may point to the
real cause of the trouble, though I do not exactly know what they mean.

Ben

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Re: OT: Malformed date header? (was: Re: Re: Kernel penguin logo?)

2003-06-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:14:26PM +0100, Karsten M. Self wrote:
> on Wed, Dec 31, 1969 at 11:59:59PM +, Benedict Verheyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
> wrote:
> 
> The webmail service you're using is creating the following 
> 
> Date: Thu 12 Jun 2003 13:32:37 +0200
> 
> This is missing the ',' following 'Thu'.  Result is that your mail
> appears to have been sent on Dec 31, 1969 (one day prior to the epoch).
> 
> I'm curious as to whether this is a bug with your mail service, or mutt.

mutt (1.3.28-2.2 from stable) doesn't get that confused for me, so I
suppose it might be a wishlist bug in mutt. However, RFC 2822 requires
the comma, so it is most definitely a bug in the mail service in
question, and the mutt developers might simply have decided to be more
strict at some point.

Cheers,

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Re: mozilla e-mail & list

2003-06-17 Thread David selby
Elizabeth Barham wrote:

David writes:

 

I am using mozilla, when replying to this list, I have the options of 
reply to sender only, or reply to all. To reply to the list I have to 
reply to all. Then I have to remember to delete the "to:" personale 
e-mail addred, some people realy don't like it if you don't!
   

  I received a complaint before about this in the past but you know,
I'm on many mailing lists and it is common to reply directly to the
original sender as well as onto the mailing list. Further, I *like*
receiving the direct reply even if it also goes onto the mailing list
so the problem does not seem to be Mozilla.
  Elizabeth

 

Yep I don't have a problem with it either
Many thanks for the support and the point of view !
Dave

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Re: installing gnome2 with apt-get problem

2003-06-17 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 12:15, Frederick David Bowker wrote:
> I read the instructions for upgarding gnome2.2 at
> http://mirror.raw.no/gnome2.2/README.apt

You did not thoroughly enough. It says:

"Xfree86 4.2.1 is required to install these packages, you can get it
from:
deb http://people.debian.org/~blade/woody/i386 ./"

You forgot that, as can be seen in the apt-get output you attached:


gnome-core: Depends: acme (>= 2.0) but it is not going to be installed
[...]
  Depends: xlibs (>= 4.2.0) but 4.1.0-16 is to be installed
  Depends: xfonts-base (>= 4.2.0) but 4.1.0-16 is to be installed
[...]

So, supposing that dist-upgrade hasn't uninstalled important stuff, you
only have to add the deb line for X 4.2.1 to sources.list, then apt-get
update && apt-get upgrade.

Good luck


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Problems with Debian unstable, Linux 2.4.21 and Nvidia?

2003-06-17 Thread Andreas Daab
I had problems to compile the kernel module wrapper from nvidia drivers with
gcc 3.3.
Following steps should solve the problem:
1. Compile and run kernel 2.4.21 with gcc 3.3 (RTFM for details)
2. Extract nvidia source with NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363.run --extract-only
3. Open NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-4363/usr/src/nv/Makefile with your favourite
editor
4. change the gcc-check section to
gcc-check:
exit 0;\
5. Install the wrapper with make
Step 4 solves the problem with the gcc version check.


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Re: Partially broken tasksel after dist-upgrade

2003-06-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:54:12AM -0500, Andrew A. Raines wrote:
> Yeah, I thought of that.  Unfortunately, it doesn't exist in the
> repository anymore:
> 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lib$ sudo apt-get install libgal19
>Reading Package Lists... Done
>Building Dependency Tree... Done
>Package libgal19 has no available version, but exists in the database.
>This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and
>never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents
>of sources.list
>E: Package libgal19 has no installation candidate
> 
> So, is gnome-utils wrong to expect an obsolete libgal, or is
> libgal19 wrong for not existing?

gnome-utils was wrong, kind of. (libgal's soname changes quite
frequently, which means that packages depending on it need to keep up.)

The version of gnome-utils in unstable no longer depends on libgal. It's
stuck waiting for gnome-panel, which is waiting for gnome-session, which
is waiting for a current version of glib2.0; I believe that glib2.0
should get into testing in four days, at which point the rest of that
stack will pop its way through too.

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Re: exim-tls just says "no, stupid!"

2003-06-17 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 01:17:38AM -0500, Will Trillich wrote:
| On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 10:42:45PM -0700, Vineet Kumar wrote:

| > What problems have you faced trying to get exim-tls up and
| > running?  I can share my config if you need it.
| 
| well, when i have the tls options enabled, eudora and outhouse
| excess both claim the server doesn't speak ssl/tls -- and
| sniffit shows only "EHLO " and "QUIT" from the client,
| even tho telnetting in to port 25 (smtp) shows "STARTTLS" as an
| option.

That's, obviously!, a client bug.  :-)

I recall reading something about Outhouse not supporting STARTTLS and
the "solution" is to run a TLS-always daemon on a separate port.  Then
tell outhouse to use that other port instead.  Kinda like HTTP vs.
HTTPS where it's an all-or-nothing deal (even though STARTTLS is a
better approach).

| (certificate and public key seem okay; i'm even able to grok the
| syntax to have an authenticator pull password fields out of a
| "htpasswd"-created file...)

That sounds good.

May I suggest using exim or some other Debian tool to verify that exim
itself is working with TLS (and/or AUTH)?

(the AUTH PLAIN part is easy, using telnet)

| (not to mention what machinations i have to do to the windo~1
| client software to get it to grok tls correctly...)

This is where things get icky.  But that's just M.  You're
well aware of that already, though.  That's why I recommend using
well-known and well-documented (debian) tools to verify your exim
config before attempting to jump through hoops in Redmond.

BTW, I *think* I have exim working with TLS, but
1)  I am using exim 4, not 3.x
2)  I don't actually use it apart from testing way back when I
configured it, so I don't remember if it is actually there
or not.  If you want to experiment with it, you're welcome
to.  Just let me know before hand because, IIRC, I have
STARTTLS only advertised to certain clients.

HTH,
-D

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Re: Where to keep .gnupg?

2003-06-17 Thread Nathan Malmberg
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:09:46PM -0500, Kirk Strauser wrote:
> At 2003-06-16T17:12:12Z, Nathan Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > With as many problems as I have had, I have been trying to brainstorm
> > alternatives.  One thought I had was to write the files to which I need
> > only read access to removeable media, and keep the rest in my home
> > directory.  Does anyone have any thoughts in this regard?  Thanks, Nate
> 
> Get one of those USB keychain drives.  Office Max sells 64MB units for about
> $20 after rebate.  No moving parts to break or wear out.

That's my plan as soon as I can afford to spend $20 on anything, which
will probably be after I graduate.  In the meantime, I'm forced to work
with what I have.

> > btw, if anyone knows why my zip drive (USB-powered Zip250) is destroying
> > my zip disks, I'd like to know, also.
> 
> Google "click of death".  Even if that's not your problem, you can see that
> Iomega isn't widely reputed for their reliable hardware.

So I've heard.  It appears that my drive was on its last legs.  It's not
dead, more like undead, killing every disk it touches.

Nate
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Re: [OT]What is Dynix

2003-06-17 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 05:50:29PM +0300, Aryan Ameri wrote:
[...]
} "Specifically, Sontag said IBM moved technology to Linux from AIX and 
} another version of Unix called Dynix that IBM acquired when it bought 
} Sequent. "
} 
} I have been trying really hard, to learn as much as possible about 
} different Unix variants, but to date, I have never heard of a Unix 
} called Dynix. Can anyone tell me what kind of OS it is/was ? 

My only experience with it was in a public library which had just converted
to it from some older system. This was in 1992 or so.

} Cheers
--Greg


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Re: signature and missing key

2003-06-17 Thread Jeremy Brooks
Is there a way to get this information via http or shttp?  It appears
that I am behind a firewall which blocks the command listed above.


On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 06:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 09:57:22AM -0300, Marcelo Chiapparini wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > when reading some emails with Balsa, I get the following message:
> > 
> > "The signature could not be verified due to a missing key"
> > 
> 
> You need to import the public key from the respective user.
> 
> The Linux Kernel Archives key can be imported with gnupg with the
> following command, for example:
> 
> gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 0x517D0F0E
> 
> 
> Usually the poster gives some information at the end of his mail about
> where his public key kann be obtained etc., so that you can import it
> and verify that he indeed is culprit.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Eamon Roque.
> 
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Re: Printer installed with CUPS- Unable to print

2003-06-17 Thread Jamin W. Collins
On Tue, Jun 17, 2003 at 06:51:06PM +0530, SRIKANTH NS wrote:
> In debian, I invoked CUPS, (http://localhost:631), configured the dot
> matrix printer(Epson 9 pin dot matrix drivers) and printed a test
> page. It came alright.
> 
> I opened kword and wanted to take a print out. In the printing program
> currently used tab, I did not see CUPS listed, only the other 4
> i) Generic UNIX LPD printing system
> ii) LPR/LPRng printing system

The above (LPR/LPRng) will work if you install the cupsys-bsd package to
provide the lpr program it's looking for.

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Re: Kernel will not compile

2003-06-17 Thread Gary Hennigan
"Patrick Wiseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 at 1:42am, Roberto Sanchez wrote:
>
> : --- dhobner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> :> I did the following:
> :>
> :> apt-get install gcc
> :> apt-get install kernel-package
> :> apt-get install kernel-source.2.4.18
> :> apt-get install libc6-dev
> :> apt-get install tk8.3
> :> apt-get install libncurses5-dev
> :>
> :> tar -jxf kernel-source-2.4.18.tar.bz2
> :>
> :> make-kpkg clean
> :>
> :
> :I beleive that you are missing a 'make config' (or menuconfig or xconfig).
>
> No, I'm having the same problem and I made config first.
>
> :Check your kernel-source directory and make sure that the .config exists
> :and has your selected options.
> :
> :> make-kpkg --append-to-version=.030320 kernel_image
> :>
> :> The following error occurs:
> :>
> :> In file included from ksyms.c:50
> :> /usr/src/Kernel-source-2.4.18/include/asm/checksum.h:72:30:Missing
> :> terminating " character
> :> ***other errors after this within the same header file
> :>
> :> Anyone know why this is not compiling?
>
> No, but I grabbed the 2.4.20 source and had all sorts of other problems.
> I'm on a 'testing' system; you too?  I suspect it's the testing gcc which
> is causing the problem (from Googling another error I was getting trying
> to compile 2.4.20).  Can anyone confirm?

I think, in general, it's best to stick with 2.95 compilers for the
kernel. There are exceptions, but the easiest route is to use gcc-2.95
for compiling kernel source. You can do this by editing the
kernel-source-2.4.20/Makefile and setting HOSTCC=gcc-2.95 and
CC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc-2.95. If you have external modules you're
building then you'll also want to add CC=gcc-2.95 to the
environment. Like:

   CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage kernel_image

and then

CC=gcc-2.95 make-kpkg --revision foo.1 --bzimage modules_image


Gary



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good time tracking software, i.e. keeping track of work tasks that I work on...

2003-06-17 Thread Walter Tautz
i'm currently using titrax but it seems a little simplistic...

If possible I'd like something that could track keystrokes perhapsdetect
idleness.needless to say this is just for my own use, I'm not tracking
anyone else :-)

walter


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