Re: problems with alsa and an SB Audigy card
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 11:38:35 +0100 Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi > Wenn I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.25 I also upgraded > alsa & alsa-source from 0.98 to the current > version present in unstable. > Basically sound works, or at least playback, > for example with xmms & mplayer (both native & > over oss emulation). > what is not working though is capturing sound over > Line in, which is a bit anoying since i > use it when to watch/record tv from my tv card. > When i look at the setting for the Line,0 > device with amixer, it shows no entries for capture, > and does npot allow me to set it. > > So, is this a bug or am i just to dumb to config > re it correctly? Hi. I do suspect it's a configuration issue. I don't have an Audigy; but I do have an SB Live 5.1. Both are based around the EMu10k1 controller, and consequently use the same driver. And I'm using ALSA 1.0.1 (not the most current in unstable, but not very different according to the changelogs). And I have no problem recording over line in. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: crontab jobs not running?
On Tuesday 16 March 2004 15:30, Nitebirdz wrote: > On Tue, Mar 16, 2004 at 10:59:18AM +0100, Andreas Janssen wrote: > > IIRC, if you edit user crontabs, you have to leave away the user field. > > The jobs will be run under the ID the crontab belongs to. If you use > > vixie cron, the user field is only needed in /etc/crontab and > > /etc/cron.d crontab segments. > > I'm sorry. You're right, and that's the way I was using it. I originally > entered the information *without* the username, but then I decided to try > using the "/etc/crontab" file instead where one needs to enter the > username. When I copied and pasted the contents of the file, I used the > latter. > > So, here is the latest on this issue: > > o If I add the entries I mentioned previously (*without* the usernames) via > 'crontab -e', the jobs never get executed. > > o If I add them to the "/etc/crontab" file, they do get executed but at > very different hours than the ones I specify. For instance, the > 'mkreport.deb' script runs at 7:00 PM for some reason. > > o Yes, the system time appears to be correct whenever I run the 'date' > command. > > > Any suggestions? Just a thought - do you have anacron installed. Its a while since I have, but I have this feeling that it simulates the running of cron and therefore its the times in /etc/anacrontab that matter -- Alan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. --Gandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
Travis Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: >> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" >> > almost certainly is. >> >> backports.org is your friend. > > Here's a question for the more experienced folks: is "downgrading" from > unstable to stable as easy as upgrading is? No, downgrades are not supported at all. You can force downgrades, but the package maintainer scripts are not generally written to handle downgrades. If you downgrade a whole distribution, things *will* break. -- You win again, gravity! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. > Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, > and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in unstable > before trickling down into testing. Actually, the real problem with running testing is that the dependency graph involving the 13,000 or so packages in unstable is so complicated that enough bugs can crop up (especially during transitions) that nearly the entirely distribution blocks itself from entirely testing (because a bug in one package is holding back another package, which in turn is held back by another bug, etc.). In this situation, it becomes computationally impossible for the testing scripts to unlock it. To work around this problem, the testing release manager will manually force the more critical packages into testing from time to time, intentionally causing major breakage in a lot of other packages. Then, the rest of the packages will be allowed to trickle as an normal, which can still take several weeks. Thus, many packages can be broken for quite a while. My opinion is that testing should not be publicly available until it is in the "release candidate" or "beta" stage, or whatever you want to call it. Up until that point, it should be a virtual distribution only existing in the output of the testing scripts. I think it does a disservice to the community to have a publicly available distribution that appears to be a compromise in between stable and unstable, but in actuality can be much more broken than unstable. It's also a real pain for maintainers because we get many bug reports from testing users that, although are valid, are completely unfixable by maintainers. The only fix is waiting, possibly for quite a while. The real bug is testing itself. -- You win again, gravity! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debain over Redhat
Hallo Matthew, > > An future project here will use Apache/PHP/PostgreSQL on a Dell > server. > > The vendor will advocate Redhat, but Debian is the only linux I have > used so that would be my choice. I will be supporting the box and > os, they will support the app. > > I do not know the versions of the packages they will want to use, so > I don't know if vanilla woody will be sufficient. I am in the process of setting up three debian woody mailservers on Dell 2650 machines. After searching on google I came across an net-install CD for Debian woody which was designed for Dell servers and it installed without a problem. Unfortunately I did not make a note of where I found it. But I have a copy available at ftp://ftp.sun.ac.za/iso-images/debian/dell/debian-dell-2.4.25.iso It has a size of 5.5M. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelations 21:4 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problems with alsa and an SB Audigy card
I use version 0.98 and also can't record via line-in. Hans Albert Dengg wrote: Hi Wenn I upgraded my kernel to 2.4.25 I also upgraded alsa & alsa-source from 0.98 to the current version present in unstable. Basically sound works, or at least playback, for example with xmms & mplayer (both native & over oss emulation). what is not working though is capturing sound over Line in, which is a bit anoying since i use it when to watch/record tv from my tv card. When i look at the setting for the Line,0 device with amixer, it shows no entries for capture, and does npot allow me to set it. So, is this a bug or am i just to dumb to config re it correctly? thanks in advance for any help/ideas offered yours Albert PS: having search both alsa upstream bugs & debian bug lists i dind gind anything for the current version of alsa witch seems to be related to this -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate messages
Incoming from Johann Spies: > Am I the only one who receives nearly all the messages from this > mailing list in in duplicate for the past weeks? I don't know about that, but I for one am not receiving duplicates. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Duplicate messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Opperman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 19 March 2004 08:46, Johann Spies wrote: >> Am I the only one who receives nearly all the messages from this >> mailing list in in duplicate for the past weeks? >> >> This morning I have deleted 138 duplicates. >> >> Regards >> Johann > [...] > > I'm not receiving any duplicates (-: . There can be only one (-: . Yeah, the procmail HOWTO even has an example that will filter out duplicates. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWpq7UzgNqloQMwcRAs2dAJ9Db8c1K09AO2MKC8hIVIQjYf66GQCgp93G GJ7AkSSdQ1VchHGoaZt+Uqc= =RMOR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
Michael Satterwhite wrote: On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. I'm sure I'm missing something here. I would expect that the Testing version becomes more unstable after the current Sid becomes the Testing version (which is why I wouldn't update from Sarge to ??? for a few months). Just to clarify, this never happens. The same progression rules from sid->testing that occur now are always in effect. There is never a day when every package in sid gets into testing. When sarge releases, it will be identical to testing for a day or two and then testing will slowly change. But are you *REALLY* saying that the new Testing version will be more unstable than the new Unstable version?? Something seems wrong with that picture. I use testing and am perfectly happy with it. It does require a certain degree of acumen to know when to pull certain packages from unstable and when to sit tight and not do anything, but you get used to it[ie late last year I had GNOME on hold for a long time until the 1.4->2.x transition finished]. In my experience, testing breaks in one of two ways: Something is uninstallable because dependencies are screwy, because something was forced into testing ora package has been removed from testing. Once you have everything installed, this can't be a problem since an installed package by definition can't be uninstallable. A corollary to this is that an upgrade will try to remove packages, so don't do the upgrade. In other words you are given ample warning of the 'breakage'. The other problem is security and other 'critical' fixes, well worst comes to worst you can always grab the packages from unstable[either recompile/or install the unstable dependencies as well] so in this regard testing can't be worse than unstable. Unstable, on the other hand, breaks much more spectacularly on package installation with no warning other than people moaning on the lists/IRC/BTS. I don't want to imply that this is a frequent occurence, but it does happen... signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Duplicate messages
On Friday 19 March 2004 08:46, Johann Spies wrote: > Am I the only one who receives nearly all the messages from this > mailing list in in duplicate for the past weeks? > > This morning I have deleted 138 duplicates. > > Regards > Johann [...] I'm not receiving any duplicates (-: . There can be only one (-: . Ciao Jono -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 02:02:48PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Instead, go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and > download either the 30MB or the 100MB CD and boot off that. Then you'll > install the rest off the network. At some point, you may need to point > your /etc/apt/sources.list to "unstable" and do an "apt-get update && > apt-get dist-upgrade" if the installer doesn't give you the opportunity > to pull from "unstable". I've got an unused 6GB Fat32 partition on this laptop. See any risks to my existing partitions if I try and do a new install on that Fat32 partition? Will it overwrite the MBR that my existing lilo setup wrote? Or will the installer see I have another system and add it to the boot menu? I'm using lilo. I'm not clear how to setup lilo in this case. I assume I need to pick one lilo.conf and make sure it writes to the mbr and also provides booting for both systems. laptop:/home/moseley# fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 20.0 GB, 20003880960 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2432 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 758 6088603+ b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda224022432 249007+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda322802401 979965 83 Linux /dev/hda4 759227912217432+ 83 Linux Partition table entries are not in disk order -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Duplicate messages
Am I the only one who receives nearly all the messages from this mailing list in in duplicate for the past weeks? This morning I have deleted 138 duplicates. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelations 21:4 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: no audio cd play from CD writer
H. S. wrote: Hi, I have a CDROM and a CD writer on my Sarge system. Both are ATAPI (no scsi emulation). I installed Sarge only a few weeks ago. A little problem is bugging me, I can't play any audio CD from the writer(/dev/hdd). The CD plays fine from the CDROM(/dev/hdc). Any idea where I start debugging? BTW, cdrecord sees both. readcd works on both. eject works on both. Filesytems CD's can be mounted on both. ONly the xmms cannot see tracks on the CD when it is in the cdwriter. thanks, ->HS You need to install xmms-cdread. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: CUPS
Thank you much. That did it. On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:09, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:03:12PM -0800, Arron Kau wrote: > > I've gathered from doing some research on this that I am not the only > > one to have problems with CUPS. I actually have it installed and working > > (nominally). I can print from a shell terminal in KDE. However, I > > _cannot_ print from any of the other programs that I've tried > > (Openoffice, Evolution, Mozilla). The dialog that comes up with these > > Mozilla uses lpr by default. To get printing to work you'd need to install > cupsys-bsd so that Mozilla can send an "lpr" command that gets translated > into something the printer will hear. > > apt-get install cupsys-bsd > > Hope that helps, > emma > > -- > Emma Jane Hogbin > [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables and snort
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Col @ Home wrote: > Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using > iptables. New to linux, can anybody point me in the direction of a > good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables? If you want to know how to build your own ruleset and how to install it see my page on iptables at http://huizen.dto.tudelft.nl/devries/security/iptables_example.html Visit frozentux for an in-depth explanation of iptables itself (don't know the url without looking it up, but it is on the same page I mentioned above) . Also I recommend you read Bob Ziegler's book on iptables if you really want to dig into this matter. If you just want to run iptables without any fuss you might want to try one of the configuration tools like shorewall. Grx HdV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:03:12PM -0800, Arron Kau wrote: > I've gathered from doing some research on this that I am not the only > one to have problems with CUPS. I actually have it installed and working > (nominally). I can print from a shell terminal in KDE. However, I > _cannot_ print from any of the other programs that I've tried > (Openoffice, Evolution, Mozilla). The dialog that comes up with these Mozilla uses lpr by default. To get printing to work you'd need to install cupsys-bsd so that Mozilla can send an "lpr" command that gets translated into something the printer will hear. apt-get install cupsys-bsd Hope that helps, emma -- Emma Jane Hogbin [[ 416 417 2868 ][ www.xtrinsic.com ]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
no audio cd play from CD writer
Hi, I have a CDROM and a CD writer on my Sarge system. Both are ATAPI (no scsi emulation). I installed Sarge only a few weeks ago. A little problem is bugging me, I can't play any audio CD from the writer(/dev/hdd). The CD plays fine from the CDROM(/dev/hdc). Any idea where I start debugging? BTW, cdrecord sees both. readcd works on both. eject works on both. Filesytems CD's can be mounted on both. ONly the xmms cannot see tracks on the CD when it is in the cdwriter. thanks, ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnus losing mail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> Alright, I got it sorted out. I'm now using the nnml backend. Here's what fixed mail for me... >>> >>> I don't think it's necessary to switch to nnml. Everything should >>> work with nnfolder, too. >> >> Actually, all the docs I have seen have lead me to believe that nnml >> is the easiest to deal with, and so far that seems to be the case. > > Yes, nnml seems to be a more popular backend than nnfolder. Another > popular backend is nnimap, for those who have this kind of server. > And then there is nnmaildir, which has its own advantages. > > Personally, I use nnimap for some accounts and nnml for others. I've > been thinking about migrating to nnmaildir, but somehow the courage > is lacking :-| What kind of advantages are we talking about? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWo6lUzgNqloQMwcRAttMAKCzXvHdWyu1qjfkuDdXxEpWdNz5DQCglqE6 MqDDx2+Bnt0TIHQKuezYsSQ= =gIGF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dsl Verizon.com
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Christopher J. Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem > connected to a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure > this on debian? If you're lucky, and they're not using PPPoE, then this will be easy. All you need to do is plug that puppy into your gateway box and try setting it up like it's on a DHCP-configured network, and it should Just Work. If it uses PPPoE, check google. Looking through the dwww running on my site, I find a DSL HOWTO... http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/HOWTO-INDEX/../DSL-HOWTO/index.html ...and the Bridge+Firewall+DSL HOWTO... http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/HOWTO-INDEX/../Bridge%2BFirewall%2BDSL.html Hope this helps. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWo2mUzgNqloQMwcRAkojAJ9V11yjI27njdGDuF7Tknxd7Nne+gCgtTim h/2f46DevQDeJIfqbc2M6Kg= =Ckbf -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnus losing mail?
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Alright, I got it sorted out. I'm now using the nnml backend. Here's >>> what fixed mail for me... >> >> I don't think it's necessary to switch to nnml. Everything should >> work with nnfolder, too. > > Actually, all the docs I have seen have lead me to believe that nnml > is the easiest to deal with, and so far that seems to be the case. Yes, nnml seems to be a more popular backend than nnfolder. Another popular backend is nnimap, for those who have this kind of server. And then there is nnmaildir, which has its own advantages. Personally, I use nnimap for some accounts and nnml for others. I've been thinking about migrating to nnmaildir, but somehow the courage is lacking :-| >> Really? It should work with nnfolder, too. > > It probably does, but now I've got nnml going and I'm not inclined to > change it now that it's working properly. Sure. But in case people find our thread they will see that they don't /need/ to migrate, if they don't want to. That's why I wrote it. Kai -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CUPS
I've gathered from doing some research on this that I am not the only one to have problems with CUPS. I actually have it installed and working (nominally). I can print from a shell terminal in KDE. However, I _cannot_ print from any of the other programs that I've tried (Openoffice, Evolution, Mozilla). The dialog that comes up with these programs is different from the one I get in the terminal--it seems to interface directly with CUPS whereas the others print to lp. Is this a common problem? I wouldn't be surprised if I just need to change a config file or something--I'm completely new to Linux. I'm running unstable, dual-boot on a windows box. I'm printing to an HP Deskjet through /dev/usb/lp0. Thanks in advance. -- Arron Kau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dsl Verizon.com
Apparently, _Christopher J. Noyes_, on 03/19/04 00:00,typed: I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem connected to a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure this on debian? Christopher J. Noyes (maybe this explains why you are using M$ LookOut to post this :)) BTW, have you tried Mozilla on WIndows? But coming back to your query, pppoeconf should automatically detect the DSL connection on one of youe eth cards, as longas the cable is connected and the modem is switched ON. ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debain over Redhat
Michael Satterwhite wrote: Paul, I haven't used the Red Hat installer, so I really can't compare. I found the new Debian Installer (both Beta 2 and Beta 3) incredibly easy to use, however. I even got a clean install without looking at any of the instructions (that was a test run. I was trying to see how intuitive it was). Remember that I'm a Debian newbie - although not a Linux newbie. Question: Is Red Hat *REALLY* that much easier to setup? It seems difficult to believe it could be. Note that I've never tried the old Debian installer. Anaconda is good, but I believe that even that is ported to Debian now, courtesy of Progeny. But from the sound of Joeys' post the other day, the new installer is just about there also. LVM, XFS, and other goodies all there at kernel installation stage. Yes, please. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debain over Redhat
Paul Johnson wrote: "Matthew Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. This isn't something that we're going to be able to properly answer without knowing what you're going to be using the system for, so people with experience with what you're trying know to chime up. That being said, I'm not sure there's really anything that Red Hat does that Debian doesn't do better beyond the initial installer. On the other hand, you're an existing Debian user, so this is a non-issue. Debian stability and security have to figure prominantly in a medical environment, surely. And a search through your preferred package manager will give you things like impressive medical imaging apps to impress also. Especially if you install them so that non-geek staff can get an appreciation of them. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables and snort
Benedict Verheyen wrote: - Original Message - From: Col @ Home To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:36 PM Subject: iptables and snort Hi, Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using iptables. New to linux, can anybody point me in the direction of a good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables? I also want to get snort and acidlab going. Any help on that would be appreciated as well. http://iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net/iptables-tutorial.html Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help
Apparently, [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 03/18/04 19:23,typed: Hello. A client has sent me a manuscript to edit on a locked CD. How do I unlock it? ask the client perhaps (?) ->HS -- (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dsl Verizon.com
I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem connected to a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure this on debian? Christopher J. Noyes
Re: Help
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. A client has sent me a manuscript to edit on a locked CD. How do I unlock it? Careful with this one! Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Spam filtering at SMTP-time
BTW, you're 4 of 4 people to CC me on this. Not picking on you but a friendly reminder to all. CCing unless requested is against list policy. I didn't request it. Paul Johnson wrote: Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Currently I am running uw-imapd. Good. Hold the course. You don't need to change your IMAP server to achieve what you want to do here. Uh, yes, I do. UW-IMAP does not offer shared folders AFAIK. In fact it barely has any configuration options to speak of. Newer versions of uw-imapd seem to break Squirrelmail. Every time I upgrade it breaks. Every time I set it back to a good version it does not. I don't have this problem... Happens every time here. I am held at the last good version. I update, Squirrelmail breaks and no matter what I do to reconfigure it it will not work with newer UW-IMAPDs. I downgrade and it works again. That is the one and only variable. I'd say it is something in UW-IMAPD's configuration except I think it is limited to, what, 3 items? Yeah, slight exaggeration there but you get the idea. I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance I am willing to run with it given two facts. Bayesian filter pollution between users would make it more or less useless, though. 3 people, maybe 6 accounts total. Our reading habits are that so disparate that what they consider ham/spam is going to instantly reject my Debian lists and let the spam come flooding through the gates. There is a time for purity and a time for practicality. I have judged that this is the time for practicality because the purity will not suffer *enough to make a difference*. If it were 12 people I'd be disinclined to take this route. But it isn't and chances are it won't. If it were 60 or 120 I most certainly would look for other options. In fact in another context where I am investigating spam prevention for a large number of people I have rejected global bayesian filters. The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. Sure they do. No, they don't. They are technically impossible. rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joe's bayes DB marks it as spam. Jane's does not. Do you reject or accept *AT SMTP TIME*? Per user bayes cannot be used at that time because you either have to accept for all recipients or deny for all recipients. You cannot selectively accept for one and reject for another. As a result per user bayes filtering must happen *after* SMTP and part of delivery. > dman downplays the effectiveness of his original solution to this problem, but I tend to prefer it myself. It allows for each user to have their own spamassassin settings apply. http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ Nice, a cite to an index of other pages. Would you care to cite the specific example. If you're referring to "Integration Method 1" then I have to point out that it is not an SMTP time rejection and therefore not under consideration. If these users have normal shell logins, then all you have to solve, optionally, would be folders to assign spam and ham to that gets run through spamassassin -r and spamassassin -k at given intervals. What you meant to say here was, "If these users have normal shell logins and know how to access them and know how to use them then all you have to solve..." Sorry, while all the users do have shell accounts outside of myself none of the users are technically competent enough to use a shell account nor are they inclined to learn. The whole reason for a shared IMAP folder is so they can use a familiar interface, their client (be it TBird or Squirrelmail) to dump the mail into a single folder which is swept on a regular basis. I've been kind of vaguely wondering in the background if spamassassin has support form mbox input since that would greatly simplify things. I never understood why people insist on using spamassassin when it comes with a perfectly good tool; sa-learn. From sa-learn's manpage: --mboxInput sources are in mbox format -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Spam filtering at SMTP-time
> > I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders > > for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance > I > am willing to run with it given two facts. > > Bayesian filter pollution between users would make it more or less > useless, though. > > > The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes > > filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. I would like to inform you of a project I run that could be helpful in your situation. There exists a Weighted Private Block List (WPBL) which uses distributed sightings from statistical/bayesian filters to feed a central IP blocklist - http://wpbl.pc9.org/ The motivation behind this is that as your statistical filters on existing accounts detect spam, they inform a central database of the IPs sending the spam. Consensus of sighting reports from multiple project members results in a 'block' of that IP address. Sightings of good mail essentially whitelist IP addresses too! You can then query that private blocklist from your mail server by querying a DNSBL (DNS-based blocklist), a standard feature in any MTA. This will allow you to reject a portion of the spam you receive directly at the mail server and save later processing 'costs'. This won't, of course, catch the majority of your spam but it can help you reject persistent spammers' IPs quite reliably at SMTP time. On my server this stops about 20% of all spam I receive immediately. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
On Thursday 18 March 2004 9:50 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: > From what I've noticed, some video cards just plain don't like > switching between graphical and text modes and pretty much just crash > while switching modes. Hrm, weird... I never had any problems with SuSE 7.3 doing this... (same hw) and its fine for a little while after boot... (never actually timed it to see how long it takes). Video card is a stately Raedon QD (ie no blazing screamer) But it is perfectly supported by XFree and I don't need no steenking drivers -- Conquerors do not apologize; the dead never complain. -- Uncle Al -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam filtering at SMTP-time
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Currently I am running uw-imapd. Good. Hold the course. You don't need to change your IMAP server to achieve what you want to do here. > Newer versions of uw-imapd seem to break Squirrelmail. Every time I > upgrade it breaks. Every time I set it back to a good version it > does not. I don't have this problem... > I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders > for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance > I am willing to run with it given two facts. Bayesian filter pollution between users would make it more or less useless, though. > The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes > filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. Sure they do. dman downplays the effectiveness of his original solution to this problem, but I tend to prefer it myself. It allows for each user to have their own spamassassin settings apply. http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/config_docs/exim-spamassassin/ > Second my user base is minute. I have maybe 6 active mail accounts > spread across 3 people. As such a global bayes DB isn't really > going to degreade resolution enough for me to worry about it. > However presently my users have no way to submit their own messages > for training. Shared folders seems to be the way to go. If these users have normal shell logins, then all you have to solve, optionally, would be folders to assign spam and ham to that gets run through spamassassin -r and spamassassin -k at given intervals. I've been kind of vaguely wondering in the background if spamassassin has support form mbox input since that would greatly simplify things. > I've done some general poking around apt-cache and Google but > haven't found anything that fits the bill completely. I am aksing > here to see if anyone's been in this situation and knows of a > resultion that I might be missing. :) It's sort of something you have to plan for on your own. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWnhlUzgNqloQMwcRAu5AAJ9nPsfAMFQzEZdM+0P5ch/9kAkNFgCg001v vo2BIEeKTYslTbAf+GG9+SQ= =PEu4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Travis Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: >> "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" >> > almost certainly is. >> >> backports.org is your friend. > > Here's a question for the more experienced folks: is "downgrading" from > unstable to stable as easy as upgrading is? Not particularly. I've never downgraded libc successfully on a machine across major version changes without having to reinstall. Your best bet if you don't want to reinstall is watch closely after sarge goes stable for a new unstable fork off to testing, and move when they fork. > For the most part, it's worked okay, except for a couple of times when I'd > upgrade things and something important would stop working... but I'm not > sure any more that I'm really that comfortable on the "bleeding edge". I > *can* fix things -- I'm a Unix sysadmin in my day job -- but honestly, > after spending all day fixing *other* people's computer problems, I want a > system that just works at home. Stable with backports.org updates of key items would probably be to your liking, then. > Alternatively, how soon is Sarge going to become stable? Sometime before Dec 31, 2003 if people get moving on it was the last I heard. I know the right answer is someplace on the website, if you find it, post it. > I suppose another way to do it would be to switch my sources.list to > point to Sarge and see if that would work -- I'd think that that > would be an easier "downgrade". Then when Sarge becomes stable, I > could switch my sources.list to point to stable, and start using > backports.org for things I decide I want a more recent version of... That's another viable solution, but it'll take more work than your "back up /home and reinstall woody" plan, I imagine. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWnHmUzgNqloQMwcRAtbkAJ9bGmJzcqGsCjceQ+sFTTSIZQvchACgnA5z vZRRUvrp6dri0w8Wfib2O3I= =A150 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
> Finally mbox is a requirement because my Squirrelmail isers, as well > as myself on Thunderbird, have months of archived mail in mbox format. Converting mbox files to maildir folders is nearly trivial to script. http://home.uninet.ee/~ragnar/2md/ http://www.flamingspork.com/junkcode/mbox2maildir.pl Note that mboxes can coexist with maildirs in a home directory. If you install the Squirrelmail POP3 plugin, then you could deliver to maildir and continue to serve your Squirrelmail users with a maildir-aware POP3 daemon. Horde/IMP might be an adequate substitute for Squirrelmail. > I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders > for my users. Use Courier IMAP. It is a superb product. I maintain a site where several thousand users drag-and-drop spam into a shared folder for filter training, and notwithstanding some unreasonable default settings, Courier has been running without problems for the last year. Steve Lamb wrote: Currently I am running uw-imapd. I believe it is the version from Woody even though most of my system is riding unstable. While it works well enough I am not pleased with the capabilities it presents. I'm looking for a replacement which can do the following: a: Operate well with Squirrelmail, Exim and Thunderbird. b: Offer shared folders to users. c: Use mbox. Newer versions of uw-imapd seem to break Squirrelmail. Every time I upgrade it breaks. Every time I set it back to a good version it does not. I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance I am willing to run with it given two facts. The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. Second my user base is minute. I have maybe 6 active mail accounts spread across 3 people. As such a global bayes DB isn't really going to degreade resolution enough for me to worry about it. However presently my users have no way to submit their own messages for training. Shared folders seems to be the way to go. Finally mbox is a requirement because my Squirrelmail isers, as well as myself on Thunderbird, have months of archived mail in mbox format. :/ I've done some general poking around apt-cache and Google but haven't found anything that fits the bill completely. I am aksing here to see if anyone's been in this situation and knows of a resultion that I might be missing. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debain over Redhat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:42, Paul Johnson wrote: > "Matthew Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would > > not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what > > reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. > > This isn't something that we're going to be able to properly answer > without knowing what you're going to be using the system for, so > people with experience with what you're trying know to chime up. > > That being said, I'm not sure there's really anything that Red Hat > does that Debian doesn't do better beyond the initial installer. On > the other hand, you're an existing Debian user, so this is a > non-issue. Paul, I haven't used the Red Hat installer, so I really can't compare. I found the new Debian Installer (both Beta 2 and Beta 3) incredibly easy to use, however. I even got a clean install without looking at any of the instructions (that was a test run. I was trying to see how intuitive it was). Remember that I'm a Debian newbie - although not a Linux newbie. Question: Is Red Hat *REALLY* that much easier to setup? It seems difficult to believe it could be. Note that I've never tried the old Debian installer. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWm7XjeziQOokQnARAn9SAJ44MlNIy5fSNTJF8Y8Ja3WmaGugrgCgmg1T vYa0NAqxdvAjPgJD95OVAUU= =mmvA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brad Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My virtual consoles (ie F1-whatever) after a short period > will go screwy and show what looks like boot logs or > multi-color flashing garbage... I tried /c and even the reset > command to no avail... They are fine after a hardware reboot > but this is annoying... SSH works just fine, as does XFree86. - From what I've noticed, some video cards just plain don't like switching between graphical and text modes and pretty much just crash while switching modes. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWm31UzgNqloQMwcRAuBUAJ93mpqOamnmywfPT6MHlaTot5DNZwCgvzYf ePc9+5qASwaAfB7Cta8EAOo= =udCH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debain over Redhat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Matthew Joyce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would > not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what > reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. This isn't something that we're going to be able to properly answer without knowing what you're going to be using the system for, so people with experience with what you're trying know to chime up. That being said, I'm not sure there's really anything that Red Hat does that Debian doesn't do better beyond the initial installer. On the other hand, you're an existing Debian user, so this is a non-issue. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWmwLUzgNqloQMwcRAu4JAKC/mAq7FXE7ItGMXMjCU1t49+DBJwCeKQeN daPU87YELaaQ11pj1GJ7kns= =eNcl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mail setup for debian-user
Hi d-u's, I have found why I can not send mail
to debian-user. My mail setup does not correctly
set my 'Return-Path:'.
Here are some file settings:
/etc/mail/sendmail.cf contains:
Cwdebian.potter
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc contain:
Cwdebian.potter
/etc/news/server contains:
debian.potter
/etc/libnet.cfg contains:
inet_domain => qq {potter},
/etc/mailname contains:
debian.potter
When I sent an email from my main account to another
the 'Return-Path' was set to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
but my email address is '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
I compose my mail in mutt, this get queued and sent
by sendmail.
I have used pine and evolution and I recall setting
them to send my mail to my isp's smtp server at
smtp.pipeline.com.
How can I either a) get sendmail to set the
'Return-Path' to my 'From:' so when sendmail sends
my mail it has the correct 'Return-Path' or b) get
sendmail to send my mail to my isp's smtp server
(smtp.pipeline.com) and have it set the correct
'Return-Path'?
Or would it be easier to get mutt to send my mail
to my ISP's smtp server?
-Kev
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Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Steve Lamb wrote: > Currently I am running uw-imapd. I believe it is the version from > Woody even though most of my system is riding unstable. While it works > well enough I am not pleased with the capabilities it presents. I'm > looking for a replacement which can do the following: > > a: Operate well with Squirrelmail, Exim and Thunderbird. > b: Offer shared folders to users. > c: Use mbox. > The only other imapd in Debian that supports mbox is dovecot. Normally I would recommend it without hesitation (after all I maintain it :-) however there is currently a release critical bug about mbox corruption. It's only one report and I myself use the dovecot/mbox combination heavily without problems but it's something to bear in mind. Other than that it should fit your bill nicely. Try it anyway. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crontab jobs not running?
Once upon a time Nitebirdz said... > > These are the lines I added to the "/etc/crontab" file: > > * * * * * root /bin/date > /tmp/date_crontab > * * * * * root /bin/date -u > /tmp/date2_crontab > > The output was, in that order: > > Thu Mar 18 20:59:01 CST 2004 > Fri Mar 19 02:59:01 UTC 2004 > > It looks fine to me. I suppose I should go ahead and reboot the darn thing, > just to see if this clears up. I just cannot find any rational explanation > to this behavior. Sure, this is not Windows. Still, let's see. To me, it looks like cron is not running with your timezone, but your user processes are. If you had TZ=CST in your user's .profile and nothing in /etc/timezone, then I'd expect you'd see the behaviour you are seeing (given your previously posted syslog entries). The funny thing is that none of the cron manpages mention anything about timezones or local time, but for it to work intuitively, the crontab would have to be read as though the times are all in local time. But if you have a multi-user system with users spread out across timezones, and the users each manually set TZ in their .profile, cron will still run the users' crontabs according to the system default timezone. Ideally, a crontab should be able to specify a timezone that the timespec is relative to. Or, your problem may have nothing to do with timezones. I just have them on the brain from dealing with similar issues at work :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > I've played with a bunch of Debian variations, and have come to the >> > conclusion that I want a Debian (sid) install on my system. >> >> Given that it tends to live up to it's (unstable) name, why? >> Seriously, what is in sid that you want that bad that you cannot get >> From backports.org? Sid is *not* for people new to Debian. > > It's still more stable than some of the other flavors of Linux that I've > used. (IE: Fedora...) The reason for going with sid is that I was of the > understanding that the security patches don't come out quite as quickly > for the testing branch. Am I wrong? It is. One thing that may be a point of confusion while picking a version...what kind of role will this installation be playing, and what kind of users will you be hosting? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWmPJUzgNqloQMwcRAmzKAJkBbm6vWxzp5rP693GxXxSf2mWj7wCfbpzi nn/Sx5Crz1i/h7vSW5+GHsI= =xgcE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crontab jobs not running?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:16:29PM +0100, Martin Dickopp wrote: > > What happens if you specify `* * * * *' (i.e. every minute) as time > specification? > Well, now that seems to work. I added that entry via 'crontab -e' and it did work. After that, I also tried some partial times, such as "41 * * * *" and then "43 20 * * *", and they both worked. Once I did that, the same applies to entries such as "50 20 * * Thu". The more I troubleshoot this, the more confused I am. > > Does your clock run monotonically, or could it step (possibly because > you run tools which synchronize it to some external reference time)? > No, I just checked and I'm not using 'ntp' or any such program to sync the system time. > If you run `date' and `date -u' from /etc/crontab, what do they show? > These are the lines I added to the "/etc/crontab" file: * * * * * root /bin/date > /tmp/date_crontab * * * * * root /bin/date -u > /tmp/date2_crontab The output was, in that order: Thu Mar 18 20:59:01 CST 2004 Fri Mar 19 02:59:01 UTC 2004 It looks fine to me. I suppose I should go ahead and reboot the darn thing, just to see if this clears up. I just cannot find any rational explanation to this behavior. Sure, this is not Windows. Still, let's see. Nitebirdz http://www.sacredchaos.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
On Thursday 18 March 2004 21:35, Paul Johnson wrote: > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" > > almost certainly is. > > backports.org is your friend. Here's a question for the more experienced folks: is "downgrading" from unstable to stable as easy as upgrading is? Several months back, I decided to "move up" to unstable, because there were some things I was using from testing to get more recent versions, and that was causing problems as increasing numbers of dependencies were also coming from testing, and I'd heard about testing not getting security fixes quickly. At the time, I hadn't heard of backports.org... so I decided to upgrade my system to unstable. For the most part, it's worked okay, except for a couple of times when I'd upgrade things and something important would stop working... but I'm not sure any more that I'm really that comfortable on the "bleeding edge". I *can* fix things -- I'm a Unix sysadmin in my day job -- but honestly, after spending all day fixing *other* people's computer problems, I want a system that just works at home. I know that at worst, I could back up /home and reinstall Woody, but I'd rather not have to redo some of the custom configuration I've done. Thus my question. Alternatively, how soon is Sarge going to become stable? I suppose another way to do it would be to switch my sources.list to point to Sarge and see if that would work -- I'd think that that would be an easier "downgrade". Then when Sarge becomes stable, I could switch my sources.list to point to stable, and start using backports.org for things I decide I want a more recent version of... Thoughts? Suggestions? -- |\ _,,,---,,_ Travis S. Casey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ZZzz /,`.-'`'-. ;-;;,_ No one agrees with me. Not even me. |,4- ) )-,_..;\ ( `'-' '---''(_/--' `-'\_) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2004-03-19, Michael Satterwhite penned: >> >> On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: >>> >>> However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing >>> works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything >>> in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch >>> out. >> >> I'm sure I'm missing something here. I would expect that the Testing >> version becomes more unstable after the current Sid becomes the >> Testing version (which is why I wouldn't update from Sarge to ??? for >> a few months). But are you *REALLY* saying that the new Testing >> version will be more unstable than the new Unstable version?? >> Something seems wrong with that picture. > > I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" > almost certainly is. backports.org is your friend. > Unstable is where bug fixes, new packages, etc are first introduced into > a debian distribution. (There's also something called "experimental," > but that's not a proper distribution.) The important ones, like security updates, make it down pretty quickly. > Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. > Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, > and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in unstable > before trickling down into testing. And in unstable, a package can be broken for months. It's really not for people who aren't ready to work for it at times. > Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for stable and > unstable almost immediately. Then those using testing distributions > must wait the allotted amount of time before receiving the unstable > update in testing. If you're in a spot where security is absolutely critical, you should only be using stable anyway. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWlx7UzgNqloQMwcRAgg1AJ9Jqio4HuOP0dQndXLB/WXWhXQaRwCdGXjK y5QkJscWJ74/adJ3KhzqdnA= =CzV7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse behavior with kernel 2.6.X ( running 2.6.4 and 2.6.3 on another machine)
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 02:35:22PM +, n.v.t n.v.t wrote: > Hi, > > I'm struggling witht his for a while. I have been running 2.6. But I don't > like the mouse behavior at all. It's *to* fast compared to 2.4. How can I > get the 2.4 mouse behavior back? > If you are using both a ps2 mouse (/dev/ps2) and usb (/dev/input/mice), or at least both interfaces for some reason (common on laptops), then you need to use only /dev/input/mice on 2.6 since all mice are piped there emulated as ImPS2, or try using /dev/input/mouse[n] > > Joe > > Ps: Please CC me. I'm not subscribed. ;=) > > _ > MSN Zoeken, voor duidelijke zoekresultaten! http://search.msn.nl > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xlibmesa-gl1-dri-mach64
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:36:43AM +0100, David Baron wrote: > So tachlis (Heb. conclusion)? > > This is a bit confusing and trying to make use of it risky, I suppose. I can > contact Guarddog's author about his gl calls but there are 10s of others on > that list as well. > > Can it be done or wait till the Daenzig can get a more interoperable package > together? > I think I can get enough space somewhere to host the dri packages for a few days if you want. That should be more friendly to Guarddog (changed dependency listing, also newer version but that probably won't change much). You could also try mailing Daenzig if you prefer. The dev packages need to be hacked to fix them as they depend on specific versions (I don't know of the dri tree can build the dev packages, need to check). There shouldn't be any problems with running Guarddog with xlibmesa-gl1-dri-mach64. I ran UT and return to castle wolfenstein on it and I believe they abuse the code much more then Guarddog. > > On Wednesday 17 March 2004 23:33, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > Guarddog depends on xlibmesa-gl | libgl1, IIRC xlibmesa-gl1-dri-mach64 > > provides xlibmesa3-gl and maybe xlibmesa4-gl but not xlibmesa-gl (I > > changed that so I am not sure what the original package said) > > > > As for qt (I thing its the dev, right) IIRC it depends on > > xlibmesa-gl-dev which depends on a specific version of xlibmesa-gl > > which is removed. Forcing this does work ok since the replacement > > library does provide all the hooks, I just hacked the packages though > > (also upgraded to cvs version, which should be upgraded again ;-) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
Although I have not been in this situation, I have heard good stuff about dovecot (http://dovecot.procontrol.fi/). You might want to see if it fits your needs. Steve Lamb wrote: Currently I am running uw-imapd. I believe it is the version from Woody even though most of my system is riding unstable. While it works well enough I am not pleased with the capabilities it presents. I'm looking for a replacement which can do the following: a: Operate well with Squirrelmail, Exim and Thunderbird. b: Offer shared folders to users. c: Use mbox. Newer versions of uw-imapd seem to break Squirrelmail. Every time I upgrade it breaks. Every time I set it back to a good version it does not. I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance I am willing to run with it given two facts. The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. Second my user base is minute. I have maybe 6 active mail accounts spread across 3 people. As such a global bayes DB isn't really going to degreade resolution enough for me to worry about it. However presently my users have no way to submit their own messages for training. Shared folders seems to be the way to go. Finally mbox is a requirement because my Squirrelmail isers, as well as myself on Thunderbird, have months of archived mail in mbox format. :/ I've done some general poking around apt-cache and Google but haven't found anything that fits the bill completely. I am aksing here to see if anyone's been in this situation and knows of a resultion that I might be missing. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop (fwd)
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 12:20:58AM +0100, StefanG??ling-Reisemann wrote: > Hi everybody > > On the debian-laptop list nobody answered my question, so I am trying on > this list. > > Thanks and greetings, Stefan (debian @ goessling . de) > > Dear people, > > another not-quite-laptop-related-but-only-happens-here story: > > After I switched to ext3 on my installation partition (Acer TM 803, Debian > stable/testing, based on Knoppix 3.2, heavily upgraded, kernel 2.4.24) I > noticed a severe performance loss. Actually, the system suddenly felt > quite sluggish (especially during start-up). I did some hdparm -t runs and > discoverd that the transfer rate had dropped to around 12.9 MB/s from > around 20 MB/s. That is a 30 % drop! I cross-checked with my desktop > installation (basically the same setup, but of course very different > hardware) and I only noticed (if at all) a drop in transfer rate of about > 1 or 2 percent between ext3 and ext2. Also, the vfat partition on the > laptop delivers the good old 20 MB/s as did the ext2 partition. On the > desktop there is also only a small difference between vfat and ext3. > > Any ideas why this happened? And yes, I have enabled DMA and manually > switched to UDMA 5 on all concerned drives. > Should I go back to ext2? > Try running top in parallel to doing some heavy disk activity but something that is supposed to be low on memory (try moving a bunch of files around) and check the cpu load (or anything else that can show you cpu load). Running the journal takes some processing power and if you laptop doesn't have much it could cause a bottleneck. > Cheers, Stefan (debian @ goessling . de) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMAP server to fit this bill?
Currently I am running uw-imapd. I believe it is the version from Woody even though most of my system is riding unstable. While it works well enough I am not pleased with the capabilities it presents. I'm looking for a replacement which can do the following: a: Operate well with Squirrelmail, Exim and Thunderbird. b: Offer shared folders to users. c: Use mbox. Newer versions of uw-imapd seem to break Squirrelmail. Every time I upgrade it breaks. Every time I set it back to a good version it does not. I'm loking for shared folders so I can offer global spam/ham folders for my users. I know this is generally a nono but in this instance I am willing to run with it given two facts. The first is that spam scanning happens at SMTP. Per user bayes filters do not apply at that time, it has to be global. Second my user base is minute. I have maybe 6 active mail accounts spread across 3 people. As such a global bayes DB isn't really going to degreade resolution enough for me to worry about it. However presently my users have no way to submit their own messages for training. Shared folders seems to be the way to go. Finally mbox is a requirement because my Squirrelmail isers, as well as myself on Thunderbird, have months of archived mail in mbox format. :/ I've done some general poking around apt-cache and Google but haven't found anything that fits the bill completely. I am aksing here to see if anyone's been in this situation and knows of a resultion that I might be missing. :) -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: cyrus fun
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:40:04PM -0500, Mauricio wrote: > Yep, I am running woody. Can I simply change "stable" to > "testing" in /etc/apt/sources.list and download cyrus 21 (withotu > having to reinstall debian)? I wouldn't recommend going up to testing unless you're ready to upgrade a *lot* of stuff. Actually, you shouldn't run testing at all; stick to stable or unstable. However, Henrique (the Debian cyrus maintainer) has backports for woody, so you shouldn't need to upgrade. Just add this deb http://people.debian.org/~hmh/woody/ hmh/cyrus/ to your sources.list. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Kent West wrote: > > Instead, go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and > download either the 30MB or the 100MB CD and boot off that. Then you'll > install the rest off the network. At some point, you may need to point > your /etc/apt/sources.list to "unstable" and do an "apt-get update && > apt-get dist-upgrade" if the installer doesn't give you the opportunity > to pull from "unstable". Thank you! This is exactly the information I was failing to find... Krikket -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: > Krikket <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I've played with a bunch of Debian variations, and have come to the > > conclusion that I want a Debian (sid) install on my system. > > Given that it tends to live up to it's (unstable) name, why? > Seriously, what is in sid that you want that bad that you cannot get > From backports.org? Sid is *not* for people new to Debian. It's still more stable than some of the other flavors of Linux that I've used. (IE: Fedora...) The reason for going with sid is that I was of the understanding that the security patches don't come out quite as quickly for the testing branch. Am I wrong? Krikket -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
My Account Has Been De-Activated
Hi I've just discovered that my Yahoo account has been de-activated, meaning that my ID and password are invalid and I now don't have any access to anything. I am aware that if one deletes their account by choice, their account is de-activated and removed from the system within 90 days. This is what appears to have happened to my account, but I didn't request to delete it, so it seems to have happened by mistake, which is most annoying and I am very cross by this. I know one can sign up for another account, but as my account seems to have just disappeared without me doing anything, I would very much appreciate if it could be re-activated by someone, as soon as possible. My ID is: lynbuck_rfm My E-mail is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks in advance for any help.
Re: routing and wireless security (SOLVED)
Benedict Verheyen wrote:
>> 2. DDTC (Dynamic Dns)
>> I used a script that send my public ip back to http://www.ddts.net
>> where i
>> had a hostname associated with my server. Now my router has that
>> external
>> ip and not my gateway server. The router has support for Dynamic DNS
>> but the
>> manual doesn't say which Dynamic DNS service it supports. Is there a
>> way to retrieve the public ip from the router on my gateway server?
>> If this was possible, i could still send my public ip back via a cron
>> job and
>> by using the client program provided by the ddts service.
Solved this issue by writing a script that fetches the page from
my router where the ip is stored and then finds the correct ip
and sends that ip back to ddts.net
The script is probably not that clever and can probably be written
a lot smaller, but hey, it works for me
snip
#!/bin/bash
wget --http-user=blabla --http-passwd=blabla
http://192.168.0.35/service.html
egrep -E "[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}\.[0-9]{1,3}" service.html
|
sed 's/^[ \t]*//g' > ip
awk '{if ( NR == 3 ) print $0;}' < ip > ip.txt
ddtc --online=`cat ip.txt`
rm st_devic.html
rm ip
rm ip.txt
snip
>>
>> 3. Security router.
>> I saw i can set a key for WEP. Is that key something you have to
>> invent yourself? Is there a link that explains how you should set
>> these things and maybe has some general info on security for wireless
>> stuff?
I found a couple of links that where usefull to me:
Online keymaker: https://www.wireless.org.au/~jhecker/wepgen/index.php
Open & Shared systems:
http://www.proxim.com/support/all/harmony/technotes/tn2001-08-10c.html
Wireless security:
http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1489&page=1
http://arstechnica.com/paedia/w/wireless/security-1.html
Regards,
Benedict
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Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 18:35, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. > Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, > and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in unstable > before trickling down into testing. > > Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for stable and > unstable almost immediately. Then those using testing distributions > must wait the allotted amount of time before receiving the unstable > update in testing. > > It is true that packages go from experimental (not a distribution) to > unstable to testing to stable. > > It is not true that stability/usability increases as you go from > unstable to testing to stable. Interesting. Thanks for the explanation. When I do change from Sarge on my dev. machine, I may go to unstable ... or make it a mixed machine. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWkwXjeziQOokQnARAt6HAJ40dTuuizcouB5s862ZEOL11G0VbACgr+bW 51lCvhzem9Dk4Q9M+SCcZ5Y= =Yby0 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
xterm - changes of default colours (invert) - Sid
Following unstable daily, about a week ago, after an apt-get upgrade, suddenly my xterm comes white on black background. It has always been black on white background. I didn't make any changes. The man pages also say: -bg color This option specifies the color to use for the background of the window. The default is ``white.'' -fg color This option specifies the color to use for displaying text. The default is ``black.'' I *can* get the colours correct when I specify -bg white -fg black But: shouldn't `xterm` come with the default colours ? Uwe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables and snort
>- Original Message - >From: Col @ Home >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2004 10:36 PM >Subject: iptables and snort > > >Hi, > >Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using iptables. New >to linux, can anybody point me in the direction of >a good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables? > >I also want to get snort and acidlab going. Any help on that would be >appreciated as well. v >I am a bit paranoid about security, are there any programs that can perform >security audits? > >Thanks! >C. You might want to install something like aide or samhain too. I installed both. Aide checks your system periodically to see what files have changed. While you're at it, you can install chkrootkit and logcheck too. If find ulogd & ulogd-pcap a worthwhile add on for iptables. It allows you to record a certain amount of packets and then you can analyse them. Benedict -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
On 2004-03-19, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: >> >> However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing >> works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything >> in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch >> out. > > I'm sure I'm missing something here. I would expect that the Testing > version becomes more unstable after the current Sid becomes the > Testing version (which is why I wouldn't update from Sarge to ??? for > a few months). But are you *REALLY* saying that the new Testing > version will be more unstable than the new Unstable version?? > Something seems wrong with that picture. I'm not sure that "less stable" is the right term, but "less usable" almost certainly is. What I was trying to get across in my earlier post was exactly what Brian just said. Unstable is where bug fixes, new packages, etc are first introduced into a debian distribution. (There's also something called "experimental," but that's not a proper distribution.) Testing is really "candidate distribution for promotion to stable." Let me give an example that hopefully will make things more clear than what I just typed. Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky bug, and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in unstable before trickling down into testing. Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for stable and unstable almost immediately. Then those using testing distributions must wait the allotted amount of time before receiving the unstable update in testing. It is true that packages go from experimental (not a distribution) to unstable to testing to stable. It is not true that stability/usability increases as you go from unstable to testing to stable. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: help with mawk
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:19:43PM +0100, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> Hi ghcbc,
>
> VARIABLENAME=$(mawk 'whatever') .
Hi,
Thanks. I can get this to work on the command line, but not in a bash
script.
bash$ Myvar=$(mawk 'gsub("/","") { print }')
The shell will then wait for input. I type some/reasonable/path/name,
then hit carriage return and finally a ctrl-d. Then "echo $Myvar" will
return "somereasonablepathname"
If I make a function _foobar as follows and call it with "_foobar
some/reasonable/path/name" from within the script
function _foobar () {
local symbolicname=""
echo -e "\nBefore statement \$symbolicname = $symbolicname"
symbolicname=$(mawk 'gsub("/","",$1) { print }')
echo -e "\nAfter statement \$symbolicname = $symbolicname"
}
I get as output
Before statement $symbolicname =
After statement $symbolicname =
:(
Do you know what I might do to get this going in the script?
Thanks,
Gerald
>
> BTW: Your syntax seems strange to me. AFAIK it should be something like
> mawk '/pattern/ {action}'
> (see man mawk).
Got what I have straight from man mawk (tempered slightly by "Unix power
tools") :)
/pattern/ = gsub("/","",$1)
{action} = {print}
gsub(a,b,c), global substitution, will replace all instances of a with b in
the input record c, or stdin if c is omitted.
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Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
My virtual consoles (ie F1-whatever) after a short period will go screwy and show what looks like boot logs or multi-color flashing garbage... I tried /c and even the reset command to no avail... They are fine after a hardware reboot but this is annoying... SSH works just fine, as does XFree86. I am running Debian Sid with latest everything Any ideas? 'Cause I am fresh out... -- If Washington fears honest citizens armed at their own expense and desire, then Washington should. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:31, Brian Nelson wrote: > Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The > >> testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for > >> developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're working on for the next > >> release of stable," not necessarily "the stuff that's more stable than > >> unstable but newer than stable." This is a subtle but important > >> difference. For example, security updates will make it into testing > >> *after* they make it into both unstable and stable. > > > > I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the > > stable list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for the > > machine that *HAS* to be up and stable. I don't want that machine > > anywhere near the cutting edge. > > However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works > well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in there > is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. I'm sure I'm missing something here. I would expect that the Testing version becomes more unstable after the current Sid becomes the Testing version (which is why I wouldn't update from Sarge to ??? for a few months). But are you *REALLY* saying that the new Testing version will be more unstable than the new Unstable version?? Something seems wrong with that picture. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWjwmjeziQOokQnARAiY/AJ4rT4z+38FsEPm1DUX2p0QhOCduigCgoNTo EZuCQJKsYrA9VJsKA9ecSLU= =zaSc -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Defoma and TT Font installation scripts
hrm I wrote a silly little script to add new fonts and refresh the fonts cache... === #!/bin/bash # Create a directory named /usr/local/share/fonts if it doesn't exist; # then edit /etc/fonts/local.conf to look # vaguely like this: # # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts # /usr/local/share/fonts echo " " echo " This script will move fonts from ~/fonts " echo " to /usr/local/share/fonts; and update the" echo " font cache accordingly." echo " " echo " Adding fonts on Linux requires root access." echo " This may require your sudo password." echo " Please enter your password at the prompt, if prompted" echo " " echo " " cd ~/fonts echo " Moving fonts to required location..." echo " " sudo mv -v * /usr/local/share/fonts/ echo " " echo " " echo " Registering fonts with X server..." echo " " sudo fc-cache -fv echo " " echo " Goodbye." echo " " echo " " === Yeah, I know, simple and childish but it works and makes things a no-brainer. -- If Washington fears honest citizens armed at their own expense and desire, then Washington should. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB: KDE faster than GNOME faster than TERMINAL ??!!
Brian Brazil wrote: On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Christophe Combelles wrote: Something very strange : I have done a test with a small USB1 memory key (i-stick). I copy a 1.9 MB file from the hard drive to the USB mass storage device, with three different methods: 1) from KDE with Konqueror : 7s (~280 ko/s) 2) from Gnome with Nautilus: 30s (~60 ko/s) 3) from the console with cp: 50s (~40 ko/s) The correct speed is done when using KDE, the other two are very very slow. Does anybody has already seen this ??? Its to do with blocksize. Try 'time dd if=1.9_file of=/usbhdd/out obs=' Vary over 2**n : 8 <= n <= 16. On my usb key ~3000 was optimum. YMMV. Unforunatly vfat(at least my version) doesn't support blocksize as an option. Brian First try, with obs=512, => even worse: $ time dd if=/home/ccomb/tutorial.pdf of=/mnt/IntelligentStick/tutorial.pdf obs=512 3795+1 enregistrements lus. 3795+1 enregistrements écrits. 1943399 bytes transferred in 208,545626 seconds (9319 bytes/sec) real3m28.609s user0m0.010s sys 0m0.108s Second try, with obs=8192 => Nothing happens, impossible to kill, reboot mandatory!!! $ time dd if=/home/ccomb/Desktop/downloaded/tutorial.pdf of=/mnt/IntelligentStick/tutorial.pdf obs=8192 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The >> testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for >> developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're working on for the next >> release of stable," not necessarily "the stuff that's more stable than >> unstable but newer than stable." This is a subtle but important >> difference. For example, security updates will make it into testing >> *after* they make it into both unstable and stable. > > I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the stable > list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for the machine that > *HAS* to be up and stable. I don't want that machine anywhere near the > cutting edge. However, testing tends to be more broken than unstable. Testing works well right now since we're near a release and almost everything in there is in a releasable state, but after sarge releases, watch out. -- You win again, gravity! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian over Redhat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:34, Matthew Joyce wrote: > I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would > not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what > reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. I'm a newcomer to Debian, so I can't get into the technical differences, but... This is definitely a question you should be asking the vendor. It's your money and they're working for you. If they want to use something other than your company's preferences, they should justify the reasons. I'm sure the tech types here will give you the technical specs to be able to stand up to them. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWjR8jeziQOokQnARAtmFAKC3H6nCD0U2RF2vIcnjtNXCiSQfSwCeKzLc jHPlMIpXOIJ834uwOfBM6yI= =QBqD -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: cyrus fun
At 09:14 -0800 3/18/04, Dave Carrigan wrote: On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 11:29:06PM -0500, Mauricio wrote: Has anyone successfully installed cyrus in a debian machine, being able then to imap through ssl to it? If so, could you give me some hints regarding configuration (like /etc/imapd.conf, and any required changes to /etc/inetd.conf. After all, how is it being loaded?), layout, and so on? I am getting *this* close of simply dropping it and going to wu-imap. I have no problems imaping to it, but when I try to do it through ssl, it will not do it: This is my config with Cyrus 21: tls_cert_file: /mount/mail/cyrus/etc/imap.rudedog.org.crt tls_key_file: /mount/mail/cyrus/etc/imap.rudedog.org.key That's with a locally-generated signed by a private CA. Since you mention inetd.conf, it sounds like you might be using Cyrus 1.x. You should really look at using cyrus21 instead. Even if you're running stable, I'm pretty sure you can find a backport. Yep, I am running woody. Can I simply change "stable" to "testing" in /etc/apt/sources.list and download cyrus 21 (withotu having to reinstall debian)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 17:03, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > > I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the > > stable list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for > > the machine that *HAS* to be up and stable. I don't want that machine > > anywhere near the cutting edge. > > *nod* > > If I were you, I believe I would choose unstable, not testing, on my > development box. But that's just me. Eventually, I probably will. I'm new to the Debian distro, though and a little gunshy over the word "unstable". As a newcomer, though, I really like what I see. The maintainers have done an incredibly good job. FWIW: Debian has the reputation of being difficult to install and easy to maintain. I found the new Installer at least as easy to use as the installer in SuSE. One test I like to run is to try to run a program without looking at the documentation. It's a good way to see how intuitive the program is (it's only a test ... I do go back and read the documentation and rerun things to get them right). I found the Installer very intuitive. I only found a couple of places that I thought it was counter-intuitive, and they were fixed in the latest release. Now, it's easy to install as well as easy to maintain. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWjOgjeziQOokQnARAih5AKCfgxQTrbGNBbpko/ijZY2jW4RWIACggURB PS+KmpYxKEQTJWg5T7Zlnr0= =1tWg -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Debain over Redhat
Dear Debian-users, An future project here will use Apache/PHP/PostgreSQL on a Dell server. The vendor will advocate Redhat, but Debian is the only linux I have used so that would be my choice. I will be supporting the box and os, they will support the app. I do not know the versions of the packages they will want to use, so I don't know if vanilla woody will be sufficient. I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. Matt Children's Cancer Institute Australia http://www.ccia.org.au --
Re: USB: KDE faster than GNOME faster than TERMINAL ??!!
it is already mouted with sync, see the fstab line: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /mnt/IntelligentStick auto sync,user,noauto,rw,iocharset=utf8 0 0 When KDE has finished copying the file, unmounting can be done with no delay. The file is really copied. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe the problem is to do with synchronos writing to the device. It probably means that KDE is reporting the time for the drive to report that it has copied files. Try adding sync to the fstab, and then see what happens. Edward On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Christophe Combelles wrote: Something very strange : I have done a test with a small USB1 memory key (i-stick). I copy a 1.9 MB file from the hard drive to the USB mass storage device, with three different methods: 1) from KDE with Konqueror : 7s (~280 ko/s) 2) from Gnome with Nautilus: 30s (~60 ko/s) 3) from the console with cp: 50s (~40 ko/s) The correct speed is done when using KDE, the other two are very very slow. Does anybody has already seen this ??? Its to do with blocksize. Try 'time dd if=1.9_file of=/usbhdd/out obs=' Vary over 2**n : 8 <= n <= 16. On my usb key ~3000 was optimum. YMMV. Unforunatly vfat(at least my version) doesn't support blocksize as an option. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burning CDs, or, Ah, now ESR's rant makes sense . . .
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 05:09:31PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Kent West wrote: > > >Anyway, thanks for the pointer to k3b; it looks like it might work; > >I'll give it a spin and report back. > > > > Nope: > > >/usr/bin/mkisofs: Resource temporarily unavailable. cannot fwrite 32768*1 You are using k3b version 0.10.3 right? See the thread from earlier this week "Re: K3b mkisofs failing under 2.6.4" for more info, and A quick google indicates this is a reported bug in k3b: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73135 It also indicates this bug was fixed in k3b 0.11.1 -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
On 2004-03-18, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: >> What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? >> The testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for >> developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're working on for the >> next release of stable," not necessarily "the stuff that's more >> stable than unstable but newer than stable." This is a subtle but >> important difference. For example, security updates will make it >> into testing *after* they make it into both unstable and stable. > > I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the > stable list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for > the machine that *HAS* to be up and stable. I don't want that machine > anywhere near the cutting edge. *nod* If I were you, I believe I would choose unstable, not testing, on my development box. But that's just me. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB: KDE faster than GNOME faster than TERMINAL ??!!
I believe the problem is to do with synchronos writing to the device. It probably means that KDE is reporting the time for the drive to report that it has copied files. Try adding sync to the fstab, and then see what happens. Edward > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Christophe Combelles wrote: >> Something very strange : >> >> I have done a test with a small USB1 memory key (i-stick). >> >> I copy a 1.9 MB file from the hard drive to the USB mass storage >> device, with three different methods: >> >> 1) from KDE with Konqueror : 7s (~280 ko/s) >> 2) from Gnome with Nautilus: 30s (~60 ko/s) >> 3) from the console with cp: 50s (~40 ko/s) >> >> The correct speed is done when using KDE, the other two are very very >> slow. Does anybody has already seen this ??? > > Its to do with blocksize. Try 'time dd if=1.9_file of=/usbhdd/out > obs=' Vary over 2**n : 8 <= n <= 16. On my usb key ~3000 was > optimum. YMMV. Unforunatly vfat(at least my version) doesn't support > blocksize as an option. > > Brian > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SAMBA 3.0.2a-Debian INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11
Hi Guys, I have upgraded to samba 3 a while ago and since then I have troubles when I'm trying to overwrite files. Connecting from a win2k SP4 to the sambe server, open a MS word document (existing one), modifying it, and then trying to save it, I'm getting an error that I can not save the file, if I then change the file name, it works! But this is only a workaround... Today I had a look at the samba logs, and i've seen the following: Linux jini 2.4.20 #5 SMP Fri Jan 24 02:27:14 CET 2003 i686 GNU/Linux Debian testing Any help apreciated =) Kind regards Roman = = -- snip--- [2004/02/29 13:31:53, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(880) ruth (192.168.10.102) closed connection to service Install [2004/02/29 13:31:53, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Bilder initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8791) [2004/02/29 13:31:53, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(880) ruth (192.168.10.102) closed connection to service Bilder [2004/02/29 13:31:53, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Netapps initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8791) [2004/02/29 13:33:57, 0] lib/fault.c:fault_report(36) === [2004/02/29 13:33:57, 0] lib/fault.c:fault_report(37) INTERNAL ERROR: Signal 11 in pid 8791 (3.0.0-Debian) Please read the appendix Bugs of the Samba HOWTO collection [2004/02/29 13:33:57, 0] lib/fault.c:fault_report(39) === [2004/02/29 13:33:57, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(1390) smb_panic(): calling panic action [/usr/share/samba/panic-action 8791] [2004/02/29 13:33:58, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(1398) smb_panic(): action returned status 0 [2004/02/29 13:33:58, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(1400) PANIC: internal error [2004/02/29 13:33:58, 0] lib/util.c:smb_panic(1407) BACKTRACE: 21 stack frames: #0 /usr/sbin/smbd(smb_panic+0x101) [0x81bcf41] #1 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x81ab587] #2 /lib/libc.so.6 [0x401db498] #3 /lib/libc.so.6 [0x402244df] #4 /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_realloc+0x100) [0x40223020] #5 /usr/sbin/smbd(Realloc+0x26) [0x81bc096] #6 /usr/sbin/smbd(asn1_write+0x53) [0x80da533] #7 /usr/sbin/smbd(asn1_write_uint8+0x27) [0x80da5d7] #8 /usr/sbin/smbd(asn1_write_OID+0x20) [0x80da7f0] #9 /usr/sbin/smbd(spnego_gen_auth_response+0xfc) [0x80da2ec] #10 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x80a7f50] #11 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x80a825a] #12 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x80a86fe] #13 /usr/sbin/smbd(reply_sesssetup_and_X+0xc41) [0x80a9441] #14 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x80c6b1a] #15 /usr/sbin/smbd [0x80c6d80] #16 /usr/sbin/smbd(process_smb+0x8c) [0x80c6f8c] #17 /usr/sbin/smbd(smbd_process+0x168) [0x80c7bf8] #18 /usr/sbin/smbd(main+0x4bc) [0x8224d7c] #19 /lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xc6) [0x401c7da6] #20 /usr/sbin/smbd(chroot+0x35) [0x8076ba1] [2004/02/29 13:33:59, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Schloss_Data initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8828) [2004/02/29 13:33:59, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Schloss_Data initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8828) [2004/02/29 13:33:59, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(880) ruth (192.168.10.102) closed connection to service Schloss_Data [2004/02/29 13:33:59, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Schloss_Data initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8828) [2004/02/29 13:34:09, 1] smbd/service.c:close_cnum(880) ruth (192.168.10.102) closed connection to service Schloss_Data [2004/02/29 13:35:16, 1] smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(698) ruth (192.168.10.102) connect to service Schloss_Data initially as user administrator (uid=1005, gid=1000) (pid 8828) -- snip--- Config: [global] panic action = /usr/share/samba/panic-action %d workgroup = SCHLOSS server string = %h server (Samba %v) load printers = no invalid users = root log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m max log size = 1000 syslog = 0 encrypt passwords = true passdb backend = tdbsam guest socket options = TCP_NODELAY dns proxy = no name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u passwd chat = *Enter\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n *Retype\snew\sUNIX\spassword:* %n\n . obey pam restrictions = yes [homes] comment = Home Directories browseable = no writable = no create mask = 0700 directory mask = 0700 [Andro] comment = Andro Data path = /mnt/data_raid/Netapps/Andro guest ok = yes writable = yes share modes = yes
Re: Sarge Alpha Install
Andy Zbikowski (Zibby) wrote: > I dug an old Alpha box (Digital/Compaq/HP/Whatever Personal Workstation > 500a) out of storage today, threw a couple drives and some memory in, and > grabbed the latest Sarge netinst CD. > > Unfourtanatly, the installer hangs on detecting hardware, specifically the > onboard Qlogic SCSI card. I don't need the QLogic card as my scsi drives > are running on an adaptec card, I figured the quick way to get around this > would be to disable the onboard scsi card. > > Easier said than done it seems. Anyone know how or have another workaround > idea? If you boot in expert mode the installer will give you a list of (most) modules before it loads them, and you can unselect the problimatic one. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 18 March 2004 14:28, Monique Y. Herman wrote: > What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The > testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for > developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're working on for the next > release of stable," not necessarily "the stuff that's more stable than > unstable but newer than stable." This is a subtle but important > difference. For example, security updates will make it into testing > *after* they make it into both unstable and stable. I do development on the machine running Sarge. The package list in the stable list gets a bit dated for me. They, however, are perfect for the machine that *HAS* to be up and stable. I don't want that machine anywhere near the cutting edge. > > What is the procedure for this type of an upgrade? IOW, what commands > > would be given to apt to move the machine to the next version? > > Make sure your system is up to date relative to your current distro, > then read: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-dist-upgra >de Thanks much. I really do appreciate the info. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWilqjeziQOokQnARAoeYAJ9CgCFNTiny+6dy27PILrwm3znKmACdGmT0 y0kZkZZ3TV6eGA3EC99clbc= =qzo+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Sid] gnucash 1.8.8-5
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 19:07:59 +0100 Wolfgang Lonien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi group/list, > > my wife has since yesterday: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gnucash > > Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C > Backtrace: > In unknown file: > ... >?: 37 (begin (if # #) (make-modules-in # full-name)) [ rest of backtrace snipped ] > Anyone with the same? Suggestions? Or where do I look for the bug list > for that one? You go to packages.debian.org, look for the gnucash package in sid, then click on "Check for bug reports about gnucash." Or, you go to bugs.debian.org, type in the package name you want to get a bug list for into the correct spot in the form, and hit "Find." You may also want to look at: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Mysql's ENENCRYPT function keeps changing its mind... (and causes a courier headache)
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Hi list
I am in the process of rebuilding one of the few emails servers I maintain.
Using the packages courier-pop, courier-authdaemon and courier-authmysql
(from sarge) we have a configuration which keeps all our user data in a mysql
database. Which is functioning on another server running (checked) the same
package versions.
courier-authdaemon=0.42.2-10
courier-authmysql=0.42.2-10
courier-pop=0.42.2-10
mysql-client=4.0.16-2
mysql-server=4.0.16-2
Because courier (seemingly) only understands CRYPT encrypted passwords i have
in the past used mysql's ENCRYPT () function to set the passwords in the
table.
Previously i have had no problems with this but today (as i reconfigure the
server) it seems that every time i run
UPDATE table SET password_crypt = ENCRYPT('passphrase') WHERE .
or somesuch mysql inserts different data, e.g:
mysql>
UPDATE popbox SET password_crypt= ENCRYPT('passphrase') WHERE
local_part="david" AND domain_name ="domain.tld";
SELECT password_crypt FROM popbox WHERE local_part="david" AND
domain_name="domain.tld";
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0
++
| password_crypt |
++
| P8wbA/tS5aY5E |
++
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
mysql> UPDATE popbox SET password_crypt= ENCRYPT('passphrase') WHERE
local_part="david" AND domain_name ="domain.tld"; SELECT password_crypt FROM
popbox WHERE local_part="david" AND domain_name="domain.tld";
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
Rows matched: 1 Changed: 1 Warnings: 0
++
| password_crypt |
++
| T8bkeomjE6G8c |
++
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
mysql>
etc. as it happens none of these passwords seem to work with courier.
Could someone give me a pointer at how to get mysql "behaving" or, even better
a way to make courier accept the use of MD5sum passwords we also have stored.
Many thanks
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Re: iptables and snort
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 09:36:33PM -, Col @ Home wrote: > Hi, > > Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using iptables. New > to linux, can anybody point me in the direction of > a good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables? There a howto in /usr/share/doc/iptables IIRC. should be on tldp.org also. > I also want to get snort and acidlab going. Any help on that would be > appreciated as well. I've tried snort. apt-get install snort worked fine for me. Don't know any more. Ethereal is another option. My knowedge is as for snort. > I am a bit paranoid about security, are there any programs that can perform > security audits? If you have another system use it to run Nessus. I threw a Knoppix CD in my newer(primarily Win98) box and scanned my systems and it found quite a few problems - mainly as I was running unupdated Woody but also some config problems. Undoutably someone else will resopnd with other packages. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: NIS Client Problem
Anyone any pointers as to where to start looking on this one? -Original Message- From: Roland Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 March 2004 17:34 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: NIS Client Problem I'm trying to join a Debian(Woody) machine to a NIS network. I'm getting the "YPBINDPROC_DOMAIN: Domain not bound" error on startup. Is there any logfile I can look into to try to debug this? Any routines I can try to see how /etc/init.d/nis or /usr/sbin/ypbind is trying to find the NIS server? Thanks, Roland. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB: KDE faster than GNOME faster than TERMINAL ??!!
On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:01:14PM +0100, Christophe Combelles wrote: > Something very strange : > > I have done a test with a small USB1 memory key (i-stick). > > I copy a 1.9 MB file from the hard drive to the USB mass storage device, > with three different methods: > > 1) from KDE with Konqueror : 7s (~280 ko/s) > 2) from Gnome with Nautilus: 30s (~60 ko/s) > 3) from the console with cp: 50s (~40 ko/s) > > The correct speed is done when using KDE, the other two are very very slow. > Does anybody has already seen this ??? Its to do with blocksize. Try 'time dd if=1.9_file of=/usbhdd/out obs=' Vary over 2**n : 8 <= n <= 16. On my usb key ~3000 was optimum. YMMV. Unforunatly vfat(at least my version) doesn't support blocksize as an option. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
iptables and snort
Hi,Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using iptables. Newto linux, can anybody point me in the direction ofa good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables?I also want to get snort and acidlab going. Any help on that would beappreciated as well.I am a bit paranoid about security, are there any programs that can performsecurity audits?Thanks!C.
Re: ipopd and "unknown authorization state command"
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Matthijs wrote: > I think I've got a good reason to use ipopd instead of qpopper: > When I use the webmail client (squirrelmail) on the machine, all mail > is transfered to an IMAP account. At some point however, I want to POP > all my mail (including the mail in the IMAP account) to another PC. > As far as I know, ipopd is the only(?) pop3-server that can also pop > IMAP accounts. > Dovecot also supports POP3 and IMAP. > Any suggestions on how to solve this problem? > > Is /etc/c-client.cf properly set up? See /usr/share/doc/libc-client*/README.Debian -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache questions.......
On 2004-03-15, Ralph Crongeyer penned: > Hi all, > > There are two Apache packages in Sarge, apache and apache-ssl. But > there is also a libapache-mod-ssl package > > Apache-ssl works in encrypted mode fine, however I can't get it to use > mod_php4, which I need. Apache is able to use mod_php4 but I cannot > get it to use mod_ssl, which I also need?? > > I would like to use apache, php4, and mod_ssl (but I don't want to run > two apache instances). > > What do I need to do to get all this (apache, mod_php4, and mod_ssl ) > working? > > Thanks, > > Ralph > As I haven't seen any answers to this question, I'll take a stab at it. Ahah! And just found out that my apache-ssl configuration was allowing browsers to view my php code. Isn't that just peachy. I seem to have it all fixed now. Here's what I have in sid: I have both the apache and apache-ssl packages. home:/etc/apache# grep php *.conf modules.conf:LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so srm.conf:AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .php3 home:/etc/apache-ssl# grep php *.conf httpd.conf:AddType application/x-httpd-php .php httpd.conf:AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps modules.conf:LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so Oh, after you restart your server, I've found that browser caching can often give you outdated results; so to test I usually move to a different browser altogether. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
"Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Sometime after that, I'll want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge on my >> base machine; a few months after that, I'll consider moving my test >> machine to Sid. > > I'm no expert, but I think this is not quite right. > > At the moment, Woody = stable, Sarge = testing, and Sid = unstable. > > *my understanding* is that, after Sarge becomes stable, it will look > like this: > > Sarge = stable, ??? = testing, Sid = unstable > > In other words, I think Sid will remain the cutting edge distro of the > debian system. That's right, though I wish it wasn't. It used to be if you wanted to stay on the cutting edge, you could set your sources.list to unstable, and you'd track that. If you decided you wanted to drop away from unstable, you change your sources.list to the codename, in which you'd automatically get moved to testing, frozen, stable and old as that version worked it's way down. -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Question re Debian versions
On 2004-03-18, Michael Satterwhite penned: > > I've been Distro hopping for the last few weeks and am very impressed > with the Debian system. It's probably going to become the distro on > all my machines very shortly. > > I'm going to be running Woody on one machine and Sarge on another for > testing purposes. From what I'm reading, it's probably not that far > off that Sarge becomes the stable version (I *THINK* I'm understanding > how it works), Sid becomes the testing version, and there will be a > new unstable version (please correct me if I misunderstand). > > Sometime after that, I'll want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge on my > base machine; a few months after that, I'll consider moving my test > machine to Sid. I'm no expert, but I think this is not quite right. At the moment, Woody = stable, Sarge = testing, and Sid = unstable. *my understanding* is that, after Sarge becomes stable, it will look like this: Sarge = stable, ??? = testing, Sid = unstable In other words, I think Sid will remain the cutting edge distro of the debian system. (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!) What sorts of testing would you want to do on your testing machine? The testing distro is a little odd in that it's really intended for developers, not users. It's "the stuff they're working on for the next release of stable," not necessarily "the stuff that's more stable than unstable but newer than stable." This is a subtle but important difference. For example, security updates will make it into testing *after* they make it into both unstable and stable. > What is the procedure for this type of an upgrade? IOW, what commands > would be given to apt to move the machine to the next version? Make sure your system is up to date relative to your current distro, then read: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html#s-dist-upgrade -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: crontab jobs not running?
Nitebirdz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just did this by su'ing as user "jortega" and running 'crontab -e' to > enter the following lines: > > 35 20 * * * /bin/echo "testing" > /tmp/testing > 35 20 * * * /bin/date > /tmp/time What happens if you specify `* * * * *' (i.e. every minute) as time specification? > This correctly created the file under "/var/spool/cron/crontabs", and it > also appears to have the correct ownership and permissions. > > # ls -l /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ > total 8 > -rw---1 root jortega 278 Mar 17 20:31 jortega ^ > -rw---1 root root 243 Mar 15 18:55 root > > Yet, it failed to run at the specified time. However, I found something > quite interesting in the "/var/log/syslog" file: > > Mar 17 20:40:23 milan crontab[17372]: (jortega) REPLACE (jortega) > Mar 17 20:40:23 milan crontab[17372]: (jortega) END EDIT (jortega) > Mar 18 02:41:01 milan /usr/sbin/cron[193]: (jortega) RELOAD (crontabs/jortega) I find the discrepancy between the underlined timestamps very strange. Does your clock run monotonically, or could it step (possibly because you run tools which synchronize it to some external reference time)? If you run `date' and `date -u' from /etc/crontab, what do they show? Martin -- ,--.Martin Dickopp, Dresden, Germany ,= ,-_-. =. / ,- ) http://www.zero-based.org/ ((_/)o o(\_)) \ `-' `-'(. .)`-' `-. Debian, a variant of the GNU operating system. \_/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB: KDE faster than GNOME faster than TERMINAL ??!!
Something very strange : I have done a test with a small USB1 memory key (i-stick). I copy a 1.9 MB file from the hard drive to the USB mass storage device, with three different methods: 1) from KDE with Konqueror : 7s (~280 ko/s) 2) from Gnome with Nautilus: 30s (~60 ko/s) 3) from the console with cp: 50s (~40 ko/s) The correct speed is done when using KDE, the other two are very very slow. Does anybody has already seen this ??? Christophe Combelles (Running latest Sid on 2.6.4-1-k7 with an usb2 notebook.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text console corruption
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 14:35:25 -0600 Jorge Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, as of today I have been having some text console corruption > issues, basically, the console comes up with nothing but colorful > vertical lines and it doesn't change no mather what I do, well > actually I can get different useless patterns after booting X :-). > > Nevertheless, I can login blindly and X will come up all right. > > The corruption starts after a while in the bootup process. I have a > Matrox M200 video card and the problem _may_ have been triggered by a > recent upgrade (maybe a kernel issue?) (I'm using Sid). > > Does anyone have any idea how I may fix or work around this problem. I can't offer much by way of a workaround or solution, but I do believe that this is unlikely to be specifically related to the Matrox card as I've seen similar behaviour with both an Nvidia (using the nv drivers) and an SiS. With the Nvidia it is generally only triggered when X is killed by an OOM condition whereafter the text consoles contain a snapshot of the X-display. The SiS seems to be related to marginal video modes as I've also seen the monitor complain about out of range refresh rates (on the TEXT consoles). I know this is not much helpin itself but I submit it in the hope that it may give someone else some clues. James -- James Tappin, O__ "I forget the punishment for using [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- \/`Microsoft --- Something lingering http://www.tappin.me.uk/with data loss in it I fancy" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Text console corruption
Jorge Santos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello, as of today I have been having some text console corruption > issues, basically, the console comes up with nothing but colorful > vertical lines and it doesn't change no mather what I do, well > actually I can get different useless patterns after booting X :-). > > Nevertheless, I can login blindly and X will come up all right. Sounds like hardware issues...have you tried rebooting the system? -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Text console corruption
Hello, as of today I have been having some text console corruption issues, basically, the console comes up with nothing but colorful vertical lines and it doesn't change no mather what I do, well actually I can get different useless patterns after booting X :-). Nevertheless, I can login blindly and X will come up all right. The corruption starts after a while in the bootup process. I have a Matrox M200 video card and the problem _may_ have been triggered by a recent upgrade (maybe a kernel issue?) (I'm using Sid). Does anyone have any idea how I may fix or work around this problem. TIA, Jorge -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
Michael Satterwhite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What is the procedure for this type of an upgrade? IOW, what > commands would be given to apt to move the machine to the next > version? Had you searched the archives, you would not have had to wait for me to tell you to update your sources.list to include the newer version you want, then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade as root. -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Question re Debian versions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I've been Distro hopping for the last few weeks and am very impressed with the Debian system. It's probably going to become the distro on all my machines very shortly. I'm going to be running Woody on one machine and Sarge on another for testing purposes. From what I'm reading, it's probably not that far off that Sarge becomes the stable version (I *THINK* I'm understanding how it works), Sid becomes the testing version, and there will be a new unstable version (please correct me if I misunderstand). Sometime after that, I'll want to upgrade from Woody to Sarge on my base machine; a few months after that, I'll consider moving my test machine to Sid. What is the procedure for this type of an upgrade? IOW, what commands would be given to apt to move the machine to the next version? Thanks in advance - ---Michael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2-rc1-SuSE (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAWgILjeziQOokQnARAq2PAKCHfbMPaVQvg5x6sIq8U1L02f6KRQCeIJ+7 NCtKENEkHXE6A6U4QdLfx9s= =b5gw -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
Krikket wrote: Given: One computer, and the ISO's (well, at least the first iso) downloaded and burned onto the CD, how the frell do I install sid? I've heard people say how wonderfull the installer is, but as far as I can tell, after asking a few basic questions, it drops you into a ash shell. I think at that point you're supposed to manually install the OS without instructions. I remember an old Sid installer like that about a year and a half ago. That's not the route you want to go. Instead, go to http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ and download either the 30MB or the 100MB CD and boot off that. Then you'll install the rest off the network. At some point, you may need to point your /etc/apt/sources.list to "unstable" and do an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" if the installer doesn't give you the opportunity to pull from "unstable". -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burning CDs, or, Ah, now ESR's rant makes sense . . .
On Wed, Mar 17, 2004 at 05:03:07PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Nonetheless, it _looks_ like k3b has found the burner, but I'll have to > risk burning a coaster to find out. ...use a CD-RW? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Install (Sid)
Paul Johnson wrote: [snip] You don't. There is no installer. You upgrade to it after you already have a working Debian system and have a good idea at just the kind of hairy stuff you're going to run into when you move to sid. Just stick to stable and use backports. Actually, I just did it. I intended to install sarge on my laptop, and then upgrade to sid. I downloaded the beta 3 sarge installer (the 30BM network installer), and it offered me the choice of stable, testing or unstable. I chose unstable, and everything went normally. I have a working sid system, with kde 3.2.1 and everything. Of course, using kernel 2.6.3 made my touchpad die, but then, life with sid is like that! :-) Kirk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: burning CDs, or, Ah, now ESR's rant makes sense . . .
On Thursday 18 March 2004 01:09 pm, Kent West wrote: >Kent West wrote: >> Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: >>> Add dev=ATAPI in there : >>># cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/westk:> sudo cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus >>> 0,0,0 0) 'SONY' 'CD-RW CRX216E ' 'PD01' Removable >>> CD-ROM >> >> So my command to burn the ISO should be: >> >> cdrecord -dao dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 foo.iso >> >> right? > >Yep; looks like it works. Now if there was just an intuitive way to do >this (a la ESR) . . . :-) > >-- >Kent I hate to pee in the punchbowl... I've had repeated problems with 2.6 kernels and cd/dvd burning, and still do. My setup: Athlon 1.2 Ghz 500Mb RAM Two 30Gb IDE HDs Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter 4gig Seagate SCSI HD Viking USB 6-1 card reader hdc: PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdd: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive VIA Chipset 3Dfx Voodoo3 memory = 16384K Debian SID When I run (as root): # cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a26 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. scsidev: '/dev/hdc' devname: '/dev/hdc' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus1: 1,0,0 100) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR PX-708A ' '1.03' Removable CD-ROM 1,1,0 101) * 1,2,0 102) * 1,3,0 103) * 1,4,0 104) * 1,5,0 105) * 1,6,0 106) * 1,7,0 107) * kathix jeff # Normal drop to command prompt. Now, if I run: # cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a26 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related libscg interface code is in pre alpha. Warning: There may be fatal problems. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0:0,0,0 0) 'PLEXTOR ' 'DVDR PX-708A ' '1.03' Removable CD-ROM Result: I never get a return to a command prompt, and the system freezes after several minutes. Using the k3b front end produces a system freeze as well, when its splash screen locks on scanning system devices. Please note that the -scanbus with /dev/hdc produces different results for scsibus than -scanbus with ATAPI. Using a 2.4 kernel with ide-scsi works perfectly. Jeff Elkins
Re: libc confilcts with apt-get install
At Thursday, 18 March 2004, Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Harland Christofferson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> what i ended up doing was: >> >> dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.2.5-11. >> 5_i386.deb >> >> somehow, that _seems_ to have fixed it. i can run apt-get -f install >> now and it does not complain (part of it's complaint was to remove >> more than 400 packages ... do i really, really, really want to do >> this?) > >OK, so you didn't provide complete output. Had I known about it >complaining specifically about files that were also supplied by some >other package, I would have suggested that. > > my apologies ... apt-get -f install complained about +400 packages, i figured, probably after the initial email, that there must be a single package that was the root of all evil for me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
