Re: Debian queries
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1. In the newest version, how good is the hardware support? Better than any other OS on the market. You might have to work for parts of it, but jeeze, what other distribution of anything supports 13 architectures? How much more hardware support does man truly need? > 2. Boot loader --> I am pretty sure I read on their website > Debian uses Lilo. How come? I like GRUB. Can I use GRUB? Yes. Debian has many bootloaders available. > 3. How easy is apt-get really? Super-easy. > 4. I couldn't find this on the website, but what desktop does it > favor? Yes. Exactly. > 5. Does any edition come with OpenOffice, which obviates my need for > M$? Of course. > 6. For the record, I am more than happy to pay for these > releases/donate, so unless the costs associated approach micro$oft's > office, price doesn't matter. http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ Buy now! - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW/bBUzgNqloQMwcRAgcUAKDmLRNX9m4KsgJKTxALbfprDiBhVQCghvmE lP93mZO/y9bLfG1aCnjloQs= =ZOHu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting extended or logical partions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Christopher J. Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I managed to mount my primary DOS/Windows FAT32 partitions on my two hard > drives, i.e. /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 but I can't mount the logical/extended > partitions, i.e /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb2 etc. Does anyone know an answer for this? Logical partitions start at 5. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW++5UzgNqloQMwcRAprGAJ4i9D2XtbDqdkpEOgr3ufYlU43xnwCgmp9/ s1QYiXRb7C9UV8wnx8nv9Tw= =VTBa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I so love people who think that the entire Unix world uses > procmail to filter mail, mutt to read mail, etc, etc, etc. while the > whole time pointing out one of the defining features is how flexible > the pipeline method is so replacing any particular component is > trivial. > Right, but some ways of doing that are better than others. If you want the features, you get to deal with what it takes to get them. In another words, sometimes the right way is the old-skool way. 8:o) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+08UzgNqloQMwcRAnQJAJ9V/LSsL1k62DHPUEpDAujLhfBnAwCfSPcP ABcG6BgEEUNH3TJaA9aKsio= =FvI+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: apt-get upgrade question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frédéric Dreier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I just ran the update and have seen that some openssl libs have been > patched. My question is : should I restart ssh daemon and other > dependant programs (apache-ssl, exim-tsl, ...) in order to make the > update effective? Any well maintained package will handle starting and stopping daemons on it's own without user intervention. If it's not, well, that's why we have reportbug. (ObObscure-Reference: Don't you wish everybody used reportbug?) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+n/UzgNqloQMwcRAu0HAJ9kKTVBLSxtKPeTBsoqR3TB/rR4aQCbBzki nQJ/bNBIBAQViW9t4AnQw5k= =0//S -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: xterm double-click to select words like "cups-bsd", "/var/log"
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:51:13PM -0500, Jameson C. Burt wrote: > HOW CAN I GET DOUBLE-CLICKED WORDS TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING BETWEEN > SPACES; eg, all of "cupsys-bsd" or all of "/var/log/messages"? > > > After either double-clicking or a more awkward highlighting, > I click the middle mouse button to drop (ie, copy) my words "cupsys" and > "cupsys-bsd", forming a command-line like >dpkg -L cupsys cupsys-bsd |xargs zgrep -i lpadmin > This is a quick way to form command-lines > that would be quicker if double-clicked words were delimited > not by any "-" or "/", but by spaces only. I believe word boundaries in xterms are set by the charClass attribute. Search 'man xterm' for charClass and see if you can get something from that that can help you. HTH Bec -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really > liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing > services. > > Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? > (Not that you should know, but wondering) You're allowed to do this for yourself without insisting everybody else be inflicted with the same useless "Program Files" style directory management Windows suffers from. 8:o) - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+l1UzgNqloQMwcRAp8LAJ9BTVZM+wvWXS7xyk4j4sAT3tpUlACg5o1Y 68qhRyF34IjDXMyxC3ndH4U= =ccNH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Phil Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it. Right, nothing in Debian provides it. I created mine by hand. > And more to the point, what's looking at that file? It isn't my login shell, > it isn't any of the setup files that it looks at (.bashrc and so > forth). Actually, it is. You can set site-wide variables there. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+g1UzgNqloQMwcRAvkaAJ41M0j+yUCt6aYavHEjnR/XBcU/+ACgvpmQ jK19masrcyL8RV8mPz0hpl0= =xgHp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sharing sound between users
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > If someone logs into gnome -they own the esd and no one else can get in >> > and use sound, even after they log out, unless someone manually kills >> > esd deamon. If there are two X sessions running - only one can access >> > sound - Sound seems easier in kernel 2.6 so I'm hoping I can finally >> > solve this problem - any help... please? >> >> Get a sound card that allows more than one stream to play at the same >> time. Yours does not. I don't know what cards do other than mine >> does. It's a Creative SoundBlaster Live! 128. > I have alwasys wanted this feature as well. Is it possible to achive this > with a better sound card? Yes. Like I said, I use a Creative SoundBlaster Live! 128 and I can do it. Any quality sound card will support it. I'm not trying to be elitist here, but the ability to get a SBL! 128 for about $20 these days really should be forcing AC97 and other similarly craptastic chipsets to justify their existence. > In windows my soundcard can play several > simultanius streams but not in linux with oss/alsa. Windows does something like what ARTS or ESD does for KDE and Gnome environments. > As I understad this I would with a better soundcard? Is this > correct? Yes. By the way, what's the frequency? - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW+eRUzgNqloQMwcRAnQqAJ9adNCGy7yn7s78hV7bB4wZKTtmhgCgwGx1 YdmkQs5ZeeNCyUMKZK++1Ik= =kGMo -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
ditto - I used to use suse 5.2 & 5.3 - before trying redhat & mdk & settling here. Don't remember why I changed from suse (just to check the hype around rh i think) but I've missed YaST ever since. Though I notice I dont seem to miss it as much in debian as I did in RH, perhaps the defaults are better, or they ask the right questinons on configure. Looking forward to seeing appear it in aptitudes new packages :-) Glenn On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 08:00, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: > > > I guess the news is out. > > SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. > > > > > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top > > > > > > I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. > > Me too. > > > I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. > > I just filed an Intent To Package it. > > -- > Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Oh yeah...
Best of luck with palm pilot, mine works one day not the next - cant workout what I need to do, for it to behave reliably. The PALMOS-HOWTO was essential for me to get it going. Q here for those reading would running hotplug and/or udev help my palmpilot thing work out better? I've had to stop using hotplug as it reboots my system about 2 min after bootup, but I can't help wondering if it would allow my palmpilot to connect with no hassles> Thanks Glenn On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 12:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Two more things I need: > > Ximian evolution (helps with work and schedules and stuff to keep > track of my crazy life) and palm pilot accesibility, which I > eventually DID get to work under SuSE but was a wrestling match. How > do these work out in Debian? > > Message posted via www.linuxforums.org > . > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debain over Redhat
Here's why I switched to debian over redhat and mandrake... There comes a time, even with redcarpet and that other tool mandrake use to find and install rpm packages (which never worked for me consistantly), that a given version of that product, just stops being maintained in any real sense - nothing new gets added and most (all?) of whats there stops at a certain point. While this is kind of true of debian (i.e if my sources.list was set to potato or woody, there'd be no (or little?) variation to the state of my system), by setting my sources.list to testing/unstable it just keeps evolving -all the way from potato to sid & I don't have to try and install or upgrade new redhat versions, which always resulted in a hassle - either way. On Sat, 2004-03-20 at 09:08, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:34, Matthew Joyce wrote: > > Dear Debian-users, > > > > An future project here will use Apache/PHP/PostgreSQL on a Dell server. > > > > The vendor will advocate Redhat, but Debian is the only linux I have > > used so that would be my choice. > > I will be supporting the box and os, they will support the app. > > > > I do not know the versions of the packages they will want to use, so I > > don't know if vanilla woody will be sufficient. > > > > I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would > > not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what > > reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. > > [ ... ] > > The very first reason I would use: If you pay, you decide. Fullstop. > > I'm not an admin. I started running Linux with RedHat Linux about 3 > years ago or so on a single user machine, and I started running Debian > last summer for the first time. What I find extremely much easier on > Debian compared to the RedHat way is the way how system updates are > done. I found it extremely more difficult to update my system on RedHat > than on Debian. > > And I'd check very carefully prices that you possibly have to pay > nowadays for a RedHat system and its possible updates when they become > necessary. > > All in all I really enjoyed RedHat Linux until some time ago - minus the > difficulties regarding packages updates. > > But as I said: If you pay then you decide. > > Best Regards > Wolfgang > -- > Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gnus losing mail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think the concurrent delivery stuff is something you might find > useful. (I hope I did mention this possibility -- I tend to forget > sometimes.) Heh, yes, you realize how much I post. But for now, I've set the autorefresh to 15 minutes, which is about how often my news server refreshes anyway. I'm sure once I get a real hang of gnus, I'll really be whipping through mail and news. - -- .''`. Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : `. `'` proud Debian admin and user `- Debian. Because it *must* work. debian.org aboutdebian.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW971UzgNqloQMwcRArGpAJ9X24JM6/5SbkL8uhUEwOJunKkl4QCdF/UY 3kzC7sa0HtrbFBYT68E3hG4= =boKl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no audio cd play from CD writer
Simmel wrote: Yes, I didn't check that. But does that also explain why I cannot get the tracks listings in xmms or in the "cd play" application? ->HS Nope, seems I missed that line, sorry :/ No if the cable is defective or missing only no sound is provided, but you should be able to see the tracks and should be able to play the traxxx, without being able to hear them. Greets, Simmel Playing around a bit, what you want to do is as follows: Go into Preferences[Ctrl-P], and then under Audio I/O Plugins click on 'CD Audio Player' and go to 'Configure'. Once there, select add drive and use the details that you use for fstab for device/directory. Since it doesn't have an audio cable, you'll want to select 'Digital Audio Extraction'. Now selecting the cdrw mount point works the same as selecting /cdrom does for the other drive. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
xterm double-click to select words like "cups-bsd", "/var/log"
I frequently double-click with the left mouse button from a previous xterm displayed result like ii cupsys ii cupsys-bsd Here, double-clicking "cupsys" highlights the whole word, but double-clicking "cupsys-bsd" highlights only "cupsys", since double-clicking sees a word boundary at characters like - / space As a result, I must left-click and drag my mouse over the word cupsys-bsd which is several times slower (perhaps 2 seconds). HOW CAN I GET DOUBLE-CLICKED WORDS TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING BETWEEN SPACES; eg, all of "cupsys-bsd" or all of "/var/log/messages"? After either double-clicking or a more awkward highlighting, I click the middle mouse button to drop (ie, copy) my words "cupsys" and "cupsys-bsd", forming a command-line like dpkg -L cupsys cupsys-bsd |xargs zgrep -i lpadmin This is a quick way to form command-lines that would be quicker if double-clicked words were delimited not by any "-" or "/", but by spaces only. -- Jameson C. Burt, NJ9L Fairfax, Virginia, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.coost.com (202) 690-0380 (work) LTSP.org: magic "mysterious and awe-inspiring even though we know they are real and not supernatural" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian queries
On 2004-03-19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] penned: [snip] > But what about LCD support (how easily can I adjust refresh rate etc.? > I am not afraid to do it by hand, as long as it will let me). I googled on my LCD monitor's model and found that someone had posted some helpful modelines. I used those settings, then later tweaked them a bit. I don't think I ever gave Debian a chance to configure it myself (and I don't recall if it asked me about it). With X, I've gotten into the habit of skipping the middle man -- on *any* distribution -- and just hand-hacking the file. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Modules for sata controler
Hi I have been attempting to install Debian for the first time on my pc. But I am having a problem getting the installer to recognise my Via VT8237 sata raid controller. I am trying to install Debian from a DVD with Debian 3.0r0 on it. I have heard there is support for my controller in kernel 2.6.x and I have a copy of kernel 2.6.1. The Debian installer gave me an option to install modules from a floppy disk. My question is how do I find the right Modules in the kernel and move them to a floppy that the installer can read? I have never compiled a kernel Thanks Chris Lowe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dsl Verizon.com
Easiest way I found to connect to verizon DSL was to purchase Linksys BEFSR41 cable/DSL router and connect through that. You just setup the router up to login to verizon and plug the ethernet cable from your network card into the router. You can either set up static IP on your computer or setup DHCP since the router can be configured as DHCP server. Verizon supports this type of setup so it is easiest to setup and maintain. I have also used a old PC as gateway running pppoe, but I found verizon kept "improving" the software on their end and breaking the connection. It is pretty much useless to talk to their techs and get any kind of useful information from them. If you want to try connecting with pppoe, I think you will need to add 'default-asyncmap' as an option to the dsl-provider file. If you want to go this route, I'd have to set up old PC to check details of the configuration files. Easiest setup for mail is to use mozilla mail. You can pretty much follow verizon's instructions for setting up netscape mail under windows. I use fetchmail-exim4(previously exim 3)-procmail-mutt for mail. If you want to do this, you will need to configure exim to use plaintext authentication to send mail through outgoing.verizon.net. If you want to go this way, let me know and I'll post more detailed instructions for this. On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:00:21AM -0500, Christopher J. Noyes wrote: > I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem connected to > a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure this on debian? > Christopher J. Noyes -- Jerome signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Pinning
On Friday March 19 at 11:33pm "Pedro M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > and I read from Synaptic Use apt-get. -- -johann koenig Now Playing: Anti-Flag - A Start : Underground Network Today is Pungenday, the 5th day of Discord in the YOLD 3170 Celebrate Mojoday My public pgp key: http://mental-graffiti.com/pgp/johannkoenig.pgp pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Laptop net card module
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 02:22:14PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote: > After installing Debian on a laptop everything was working fine. > > Then after updating to 2.4.18, however, the pcmcia netcard doesn't work. > > I've determined the following: > > The module [xirc2ps_cs.o] isn't installed. It seems to be related to > another module: ds.o, but when I try to install ds.o, I get the > following error: no socket drivers loaded. This error also pops up > during boot. So, it would seem that I have to install sockets? Is yenta_socket loaded? Nate -- " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelations 21:4 Nathan J. Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GNUPG ID: 8A9B426E The attachment is a digital signature. Get my key at subkeys.pgp.net. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dell Inspiron 8100 pcmcia services broke after "aptitude upgrade"
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 20:53:54 -0600 Nathan Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:59:30AM -0800, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > All of the correct modules are being loaded, but when I attempt to > > run"/etc/init.d/pcmcia start', the process just hangs, sitting at > > this message; > > > > Starting PCMCIA Services: Intel PCIC probe: Not Found > > using yenta_socket instead of i82365 > > cs: cb_alloc (bus 3):vendor 0x115d, device 0x0003 > > PCI: Enabling device 03:00.0 ( -> 0x0003) > > eth0: Xircom CardBus revision 3 at irq 10 > > PCI: Enabling device 03:00.1 ( -> 0003) > > ttyS04 at port 0x4080 (irq = 10 ) is a 16550A > > cardmgr[408]: watching 2 sockets > > cs: IO probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean > > cs: IO probe 0x0800-0x08ff: > > Remove the 0x800-0x8ff port range from the included ports in > /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. > > Nate > Thanks. I have this printed out, and I'll try this weekend. -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
soundblaster live alsa
Hi all, I am trying to get my soundblaster live card to work using alsa. I get sound out of the left/right speakers but a lot of static from the center and back left and back right speakers? They worked fine with the emu10k1 driver. I have done a lot of tweaking the alsamixers settings without any luck. Any ideas? Thanks very much Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Need help getting ALSA to work in Sarge
I'm running Sarge, X windows, and Gnome. I have a CMI8738 sound card. Sound works under Knoppix, so my problem is with software and dummy user. I've installed all the stuff that has alsa in its package name and that seems plausibly necessary. I've run alsaconf. Before I started this project I already had a sound volume icon on my top menu bar. Now I expect that it should work, but it doesn't. There is a diagonal bar across it, which I suppose indicates that sound is disabled, and I do indeed have no sound. When I click on the volume control, I get and error message window: Couldn't open mixer device /dev/sound/mixer This puzzles me. Shouldn't the required device software have been set up by the install scripts? Is there a 'Sound on Debian for Dummies' that I can look at? Thanks -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell Inspiron 8100 pcmcia services broke after "aptitude upgrade"
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 09:59:30AM -0800, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > All of the correct modules are being loaded, but when I attempt to run > "/etc/init.d/pcmcia start', the process just hangs, sitting at this > message; > > Starting PCMCIA Services: Intel PCIC probe: Not Found > using yenta_socket instead of i82365 > cs: cb_alloc (bus 3):vendor 0x115d, device 0x0003 > PCI: Enabling device 03:00.0 ( -> 0x0003) > eth0: Xircom CardBus revision 3 at irq 10 > PCI: Enabling device 03:00.1 ( -> 0003) > ttyS04 at port 0x4080 (irq = 10 ) is a 16550A > cardmgr[408]: watching 2 sockets > cs: IO probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean > cs: IO probe 0x0800-0x08ff: Remove the 0x800-0x8ff port range from the included ports in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts. Nate -- " And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelations 21:4 Nathan J. Malmberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GNUPG ID: 8A9B426E The attachment is a digital signature. Get my key at subkeys.pgp.net. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Linux clients in network - experiences?
Yo! So far, my experience was with administrating smallish servers and mostly stand-alone clients. The future shines bright, however, and I may soon be in a position to do much more than that. But, lacking experience, I now need some advice. [debian-security CC:ed since people there certainly have experience in the 'Server/network set up' section below. Please don't crosspost when you reply. No need to CC me, I read both lists. Perhaps you also want to change the subject according to what you comment on.] Environment: typical office environment, no or few 'special' applications. 20-50 clients. Friendly $BOSS who hates M$, also, there's not much to migrate as this is pretty much start from scratch. (So it's quite an engineer's dream). Security is *very* important. Again, of course I don't expect HOWTO-type information, but opinions from people who have experience with different products - and in some case, I have not even an idea what products there are, so even this information will help. The RTFM part is of course for me to do. I mention mostly FOSS projects below, but I am not restricted, especially for finance/crm I suspect a commercial solution will be unavoidable. Recommendations/experiences sought all the more as evaluation is not as easy as 'apt-get install foo'. Office: I guess OpenOffice (or perhaps StarOffice) is more or less the default here. Perhaps some find that koffice or the gnome counterparts can realistically be considered (for people who will receive word/excel/pp documents from their customers etc.)? 'Collaborative work' - phpgroupware is often talked about. I guess it doesn't support GPG in the mailer, so my main question is: how useful is it without the mailer (sending conference requests etc.) ? Can its calendar and addressbook be used from other applications (dunno what the standards are in this field - webdav or ldap access?) - evolution is quite mature - but iirc it required a MS Outlook server for the calendar application to work for groups. Is this still true? - The KDE suite has hugely matured - at a first short glance, kontact seems to be just a shell for the various kdepim applications, so kontact's mail is really kmail. Again, the main question is about how well addressbook and calendar work for groups. Is there a server, what server is there, ...? - kroupware: I'm a bit confused. Is this mainly a server and will be integrated in KDE's kdepim tools, or is this seperate? From the web page, it seems it's a seperate project. Will it be merged into kdepim? Feature-wise, it looks quite good at a first glance (gpg support in mailer?) - wiki: which one? Focus on usability by people who have no idea what this is. Business software: - project management: taskjuggler - seems to be quite mature. Any others? - financial: sqlledger? How good is it really? How advanced is the thing in phpgroupware? Others? - crm: no idea here. I strongly suspect GNUe isn't up to the task yet without *much* development work. - ticketing: phpgroupware has one. request-tracker is quite good. double choco latte and bugzilla are available, too. I guess I'll just go with request-tracker since I know that a bit. Might be abused as a crm with a bit tweaking, I guess. Server/network set up - unix account management: I suspect NIS is not really an option in a security conscious environment (just hearsay, though, I'll look at it). Kerberos? With pam there should be no problem with integration. Others? - networked filesystem. NFS is certainly not the right tool here. AFS/Coda/Intermezzo? Or Lustre? Others? For this and the above, it would be nice if laptops could be integrated more or less nicely. Also, if the data would be encrypted on the wire this would be an added bonus. - authentication: I favor USB tokens (since ssh/pgp secret keys could be stored there, too). $BOSS wants fingerprint auth. What solutions do exist (I see there's an ITP out for libpam-usb. What about Linux-supported fingerprinting systems? Laptops?) - firewalls/routers: build my own, or buy? (I see an endless debate coming here :-) Hardware: - Dual head: what is available with good Linux support? How much tweaking does Debian (think sarge) need (KDE? Gnome?)? (Ok, this will change every few months, so I'll need to do that research again when this actually comes). - ok, this would be on the server side: RAID and hotswapping. I personally like software raid since I can swap controllers without problems. The software RAID HOWTO says it's possible with SCSI hardware, impossible to do reliably with IDE. This still true? (SATA?) Misc: - What experience do you have with setting the default locale to something like de_CH.UTF-8? Personally, I have quite a good impressions, but my primary tools are kmail, xterm, vi and konqueror - I rarely use any office applications. There will mostly be äöü, perhaps a few slavic characters. No right-to-left, cyrillic, chinese or korean exc
Re: KDE Mouse Failure
I made the changes and kdm came down with no error messages... Pigeon wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:46:28AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote: I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "woody". I can bring up gnome just fine but when I try to bring up kde I get the following message: (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2" (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device. (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE) Fatal server error: Caught signal 4. Server aborting I do have /dev/input/mice and I am using a PS/2 mouse. Any help would be appreciated! /dev/input/mice is for USB mice. For a PS/2 mouse you want /dev/psaux. Also, ImPS/2 is for scroll wheel mice; if you don't have a scroll wheel, just plain PS/2 is probably what you want. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: help with mawk
On Thu 18 Mar 2004 16:53:58 +(-0800), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 06:19:43PM +0100, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
> > Hi ghcbc,
> >
> > VARIABLENAME=$(mawk 'whatever') .
>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks. I can get this to work on the command line, but not in a bash
> script.
I think the original question was how to strip / characters from a
variable in a shell script. Assuming it's a bash script you can do it
like this:
that=some/reasonable/path/name
this=${that//\//}
If you want to do it with awk:
> If I make a function _foobar as follows and call it with "_foobar
> some/reasonable/path/name" from within the script
>
> function _foobar () {
>
> local symbolicname=""
>
> echo -e "\nBefore statement \$symbolicname = $symbolicname"
>
> symbolicname=$(mawk 'gsub("/","",$1) { print }')
>
> echo -e "\nAfter statement \$symbolicname = $symbolicname"
> }
>
> I get as output
>
> Before statement $symbolicname =
>
> After statement $symbolicname =
>
> :(
>
> Do you know what I might do to get this going in the script?
1. You didn't give mawk any input.
2. The third argument to gsub is the name of an awk variable to modify.
In this case it's $1 which is the first field of the input line (which
is empty because there's no input).
3. I suspect you meant $1 to be the first argument to function _foobar,
but it's not because the shell doesn't expand $ inside '', you need
to use "" instead.
Try this:
symbolicname=$(echo "$1" | mawk 'gsub("/","") { print }')
> > BTW: Your syntax seems strange to me. AFAIK it should be something like
> > mawk '/pattern/ {action}'
> > (see man mawk).
>
> Got what I have straight from man mawk (tempered slightly by "Unix power
> tools") :)
> /pattern/ = gsub("/","",$1)
> {action} = {print}
>
> gsub(a,b,c), global substitution, will replace all instances of a with b in
> the input record c, or stdin if c is omitted.
Using gsub in the pattern means that the action is only executed if gsub
made one or more substitutions, i.e. nothing is printed if the input
contains no / characters. If you want an output for every input, try this:
symbolicname=$(echo "$1" | mawk '{ gsub("/",""); print }')
Note there's no pattern so everything matches.
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Re: Oh yeah...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more things I need: Ximian evolution (helps with work and schedules and stuff to keep track of my crazy life) apt-get install evolution and palm pilot accesibility, apt-get install jpilot pilot-xfer and then some tweaking, particularly if it's USB. which I eventually DID get to work under SuSE but was a wrestling match. How do these work out in Debian? evolution will just work (at least under sid). The Palm Pilot stuff could take another wrestling match. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
Hrm, I rebooted and added the phrase vga=normal and uncommented the line in config about Option "UseFBDev" "true"... We'll see if that fixed it It's nice to know I wasn't the only one with that problem -- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
frustrating problem with networking encountered while installing "Woody"
I'm trying to dual boot an old Pentium box with Debian "Woody" and win98. The few bugs I've encountered are falling one by one as I work on the new installation. However, one persistant mystery has remained stuborn. Here is the problem: booting from Windows, I can get onto my home LAN and reach the internet just fine with a dial-up gateway (the Actiontec dual pc modem) as the DHCP server. But if the Linux partition boots, the network vanishes. It pauses for an unusually long time at "configuring network interfaces.." By all indications, networking on the box is functional: there are no hardware related error messages during boot or in the kernel logs. loop-back is fine when I ping 127.0.0.1, but no other IPs are reachable. conversely, the box can't be pinged by any other machines on the network either. Flashing LEDs on my 8 port switch seems to indicate there is a signal present, but nothing is getting through in either direction when Woody is running. The NIC is a netgear FA 310TX for which I'm using the tulip driver. In addition to Windows, KNOPPIX networks just fine with no problems. An experienced collegue suggested that there might be a IRQ conflict with another device. Debian boot lists the NIC as using IRQ 12. In windows, the diagnostic tool AIDA32 returned the following: IRQ0Cshared NETGEAR FA310TX fast ethernet PCI adapter IRQ0Cshared IRQ Holder for PCI Steering First of all, what is PCI steering? Is there a way to uncouple the two so they use different IRQs? My own suspicion is that an old USR Sportster ISA winmodem might have something to do with it. The thing is useless with Linux but I don't want to trash it because it still works well under Win98. I think it is worth keeping for those rare emergencies. does anyone know if an IRQ would be assigned by Linux to hardware it doesn't recognize? The last time I handled Linux was when Redhat 5.2 was new. Back then I don't remember having much hardware headaches. At the end of my ropes, I even tried a few days ago to explicitly declare an IP, hoping the DHCP server might back down and just let the damn NIC talk to somebody-anybody. After some googling, I found one other account of almost the same problem: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?threadid=110910 the only difference is the router being used. The guy who started the thread never said if his problem was solved. I've tried everything suggested to him to no avail. Everthing that is, except the last one, which I didn't quite understand. I quote the following: "I have the exact same network card that you do, and have had the same problem. I have never been able to do a net install with dhcp using the bf2.4 kernel. So what I do is just install the base system with the vanilla kernel. Then just apt-get the 2.4.18 kernel source and compile it with the tulip driver and MAKE SURE you also have packet filtering and socket filtering enabled as well. They are under the network options. You must have those two options enabled for dhcp to work with that card. So the bf2.4 kernel probably doesn't have them enabled." I'm not sure I understand what is being said. Are you supposed to apt-get the 2.4.18 kernel with the 'Woody' iso disc set as the source? I'll try to learn how to recompile the kernel to see if that solves the problem, but I wanted to see if anyone else has encountered similar problems and suceeded in solving it. Thanks in advance for any new insight. -Ren __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - More reliable, more storage, less spam http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozill hangs due to realplayer 8
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 06:39:55PM +0100, Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen wrote.. > H. S. wrote: > > >Hi, > > > >I installed realplayer 8: > >1) Downloaded rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs2_rpm > >2) did "apt-get install realplayer" > >3) it asked for the location of the _rpm file, which I specified > >4) and it installed the realplayer > > > >Then I tried listening to a realplayer music and the window that > >realplayer opened just hanged the whole mozilla and nothing happened; > >had to kill mozilla. > > > >then > >5) downloaded the rv9 codecs from: > >http://shorl.com/digristotrevifry > > > >6) followed the readme.txt file and copied the two files as it says. > >Though I didn't find "rv4.so.6.0" as is mentioned in it, but there was > >one "rv40.so.6.0", so I copied that. The files were copied to > >/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins I've followed this to the letter and the install went fine. When testing, however, I get great sound, but no video (just the 'real' icon on a little black screen where the video should be). Any suggestions? Thanks Kevin signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
On Friday 19 March 2004 10:11 am, Andreas Janssen wrote: > Do you use any framebuffer driver? I had the same problem switching from > XFree to a console using rivafb. Vesafb of plain text mode work > Hrm how do I tell what framebuffer I am using? I have the following line commented out in Xfree86.config #Option "UseFBDev" "true" I am gonna readd that line and see what hapens -- "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." -Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh yeah...
Two more things I need: Ximian evolution (helps with work and schedules and stuff to keep track of my crazy life) and palm pilot accesibility, which I eventually DID get to work under SuSE but was a wrestling match. How do these work out in Debian? Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re:Debian queries
Thanks for the replies. More insight is very welcome, so keep them coming. So far what I think I am going to do is wait for SuSE 9.1 and the new release of Debian (which I presume will both use the 2.6 Kernel) and re-compare, based on user opinions. But the info now is welcome. Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPD files
In cleaning up my desk, I ran across a sheet of old notes that somewhat answers my own question. 'defoma-psfont-installer' is the command I was trying to recall that requested PPD files. Still not sure what this is all about, however. Paul ->>In response to your message<<- --received from Paul Yeatman-- > > ->>In response to your message<<- > --received from [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Tue, 16 Mar 2004, Paul Yeatman wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to figure out exactly what the PPD file thing is about. > > > > Hi Paul, > > > > These files define the capabilities of a printer. You can download the > > appropriate ppd file from linuxprinting.org or (sometimes) from the > > vendor's site. They are just plain text files, so if you want to know > > what's in them just fire up vim and take a look. One of the packages > > using ppd files is cups, might that be the one you're thinking about? > > > > Grx HdV > > Yes, I've definitely noticed the correlation between CUPS and PPD > files but I don't have CUPS installed on any of my machines. > > Thanks for the explanation of PPD files yet I should have been more > explicit. I realize a PPD file provides information regarding > Postscript commands/capabilities? of a particular printer but, I > guess, my question is more . . . how, when and why would one use it? > And what package could it have been that encouraged me to provide PPD > files (knowing I don't have CUPS installed I'm assuming it is a common > Debian package)? > > I currently use lprng with the ifhp package (hp print filters) for > printing. I noticed recently when trying to get a PCL only > printer working that the foomatic config script put a line > ":ppdfile=" in the printcap. Is there any advantage with using > this with my "ordinary" entries (or is this essentially what the > ifhp filter is doing through another means)? > > Yesterday, I found a package called "hp-ppd". I installed this (not > knowing exactly what it was getting me) and apparently it provides PPD > files for HP printers. But then what . . . unless you use the > "ppdfile=" entry in printcap but . . . what does that get you? I also > noticed a package called "lpr-ppd". How does this compare with lprng > and when/why would one choose to use this for his print spooler? This > is more along the line of my inquiry(ies). > > Paul > > -- > Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] >== >==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== >== > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Paul Yeatman (858) 534-9896[EMAIL PROTECTED] == ==Proudly brought to you by Mutt== == -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X 4.3 for testing (from unstable?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 19 March 2004 01:11 pm, Asbjørn Sæbø wrote: > I am (told that I am) in need of X4.3 to get my graphics card > working. > > Does anyone know whether the X packages from unstable work in > testing? Are there other sources of X 4.3 for testing? > I used pinning(/etc/apt/preferences) to get x-window-system 4.3 from unstable on an otherwise pure Testing laptop. It loaded X without any other depends from unstable. Seems to be okay. - -- Greg Madden Debian GNU/Linux -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW5nbk7rtxKWZzGsRAhwpAJ9JHzfZR4jyLOADIgcC8TVOxxWf+wCgkTH+ cOqDVEXhgvWrX/S6nIas8lU= =+cHe -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Question re Debian versions
On 2004-03-19, Travis Crump penned: > > Unstable, on the other hand, breaks much more spectacularly on package > installation with no warning other than people moaning on the > lists/IRC/BTS. I don't want to imply that this is a frequent > occurence, but it does happen... I've only been bitten in major ways a couple of times by this over several years. The one I recall is when I suddenly couldn't run X. The recent incorporation of the "list bugs" functionality into the apt system has made things a lot easier, though. I've been considering writing a script that only updates packages whose .deb files have been sitting on my machine for a week. In theory, that's enough time for someone else to have felt the pain ... -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question re Debian versions
On 2004-03-19, Paul Johnson penned: > > "Monique Y. Herman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [snip] >> Unstable is where bug fixes, new packages, etc are first introduced >> into a debian distribution. (There's also something called >> "experimental," but that's not a proper distribution.) > > The important ones, like security updates, make it down pretty > quickly. > >> Say you have package A that makes it past unstable and into testing. >> Then someone finds a bug in package A. It turns out to be an icky >> bug, and it takes quite a while to fix it. The bug will be fixed in >> unstable before trickling down into testing. > > And in unstable, a package can be broken for months. It's really not > for people who aren't ready to work for it at times. > >> Also, look at security updates. Updates are provided for stable and >> unstable almost immediately. Then those using testing distributions >> must wait the allotted amount of time before receiving the unstable >> update in testing. > > If you're in a spot where security is absolutely critical, you should > only be using stable anyway. I wasn't claiming that unstable is a better choice than stable for, er, stability; I was claiming it was a better choice than testing. -- monique -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mouse behavior with kernel 2.6.X ( running 2.6.4 and 2.6.3 on another machine)
Micha Feigin wrote: I'm struggling witht his for a while. I have been running 2.6. But I don't like the mouse behavior at all. It's *to* fast compared to 2.4. How can I get the 2.4 mouse behavior back? on the other hand, i find the default mouse setting on 2.6.3 better. One hitch though, mouse freezes a few seconds after kdm starts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS
Arron Kau escribió: When I installed cupsys-bsd apt removed lpr because it was incompatible. Now everything is working. I think cupsys-bsd acts as a replacement for lpr. (?) That's for sure, because they are the same ;) See http://am.xs4all.nl/phpwiki/index.php/MorphixHdFaqUsing (printing) The BSD command is lpr (used by Mozilla, for example). So, if you want to print mozilla, openoffice and so on documents, you have to install this package. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS
When I installed cupsys-bsd apt removed lpr because it was incompatible. Now everything is working. I think cupsys-bsd acts as a replacement for lpr. (?) On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 15:29, Alan Shutko wrote: > Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:55:00AM +, Adam Funk wrote: > > >> In my experience, just installing cupsys-bsd didn't make lpr work > >> (output just disappeared). > > > > Me too. > > Did you folks have some other lpr command installed as well? (I don't > see how, I believe they conflict.) If lp works, I can't think of any > reason the cups lpr wouldn't work. I've never had to do anything > additional to get cupsys-bsd's lpr to work... it talks to CUPS > directly, just like lp. > > Unless you mean having other machines use the lpr protocol to talk to > a CUPS server > > -- > Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. > Anagram - Conversation / voices rant on. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:55:29PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it > might manage the differences in file locations because of the Debian > Policy. I think anyone who packaged YaST for Debian would have to make it fit into Debian, not the other way round. > About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really > liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing > services. > > Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? $ zcat /usr/share/doc/base-files/changelog.gz | head -n 3 base-files (3.0.13) unstable; urgency=low * Added /srv, /media and /usr/local/share/man (Closes: #230909). Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. Interesting. I'm not familiar enough with the YaST inner workings to know how it might manage the differences in file locations because of the Debian Policy. About the only thing I've ever found in the FHS or SuSE that I really liked was the concept of /srv directory for holding file providing services. Is there any discussion on Debian and introducing /srv? (Not that you should know, but wondering) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS
Pigeon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:55:00AM +, Adam Funk wrote: >> In my experience, just installing cupsys-bsd didn't make lpr work >> (output just disappeared). > > Me too. Did you folks have some other lpr command installed as well? (I don't see how, I believe they conflict.) If lp works, I can't think of any reason the cups lpr wouldn't work. I've never had to do anything additional to get cupsys-bsd's lpr to work... it talks to CUPS directly, just like lp. Unless you mean having other machines use the lpr protocol to talk to a CUPS server -- Alan Shutko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - I am the rocks. Anagram - Conversation / voices rant on. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE Mouse Failure
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:46:28AM -0800, Clyde Wilson wrote: > I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "woody". I can bring up gnome just > fine but when I try to bring up kde I get the following message: > > (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2" > (**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events > (EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice >No such device. > (EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device > (EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse" > (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE) > > Fatal server error: > Caught signal 4. Server aborting > > I do have /dev/input/mice and I am using a PS/2 mouse. Any help would be > appreciated! /dev/input/mice is for USB mice. For a PS/2 mouse you want /dev/psaux. Also, ImPS/2 is for scroll wheel mice; if you don't have a scroll wheel, just plain PS/2 is probably what you want. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian queries
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 05:02:06PM -0600, Kent West wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >It seems with SuSE and redhat (which I played with for a week or two), > >my major issues are ALWAYS hardware. Which I doubt is earth > >shattering. > > > >2. Boot loader --> I am pretty sure I read on their website > >Debian uses Lilo. How come? I like GRUB. Can I use GRUB? > > lilo is the traditional boot loader. I understand that the next version > of Debian will use GRUB. Yeah, the most recent beta of the "debian-installer" system for Debian sarge defaults to grub: although, just as you could use grub beforehand, you can still use lilo. > And even now, and even with earlier versions, you can use either. I don't think woody's installer supports grub, but you can certainly install it later. > >3. How easy is apt-get really? > > See my answer to question 5 below. I think you're right to be sceptical of the people saying that you should use Debian because apt-get rocks. I find that some of the reviews here can get a little ... overzealous; apt-get started out as a debugging tool for a package management library, and despite many improvements since then its user interface still sometimes leaves something to be desired when things don't go according to plan. (Then again, I still use the venerable and occasionally cantankerous dselect, so what do I know?) For me, the benefit of Debian is not any particular package manager. It's more that we have a set of standards that make package management tools feasible to use on a very large scale, so that I can have a very high expectation of success and lack of hassle from installing a set of packages. I'd encourage you to play around with the available tools rather than assuming that apt-get is the be-all and end-all. > >5. Does any edition come with OpenOffice, which obviates my need for > >M$? > > I know it's in Sid (the playland of the developers, cutting edge, and > all that), and I'm confident it's in stable. It's not, actually, but it is in testing. > >6. For the record, I am more than happy to pay for these > >releases/donate, so unless the costs associated approach micro$oft's > >office, price doesn't matter. > > Debian is pre-eminent among distros in adhering to the principles of > Free Software (as in "libre", and as in "no cost"). If you stick with > the official Debian repositories, you'll never have to wonder "Has my > trial license expired?". Of course, Debian has expenses, so donations > (http://www.debian.org/devel/join/) are always welcome. While this is true, I'd just like to say that you have no more moral obligation to donate than you have legal obligation. Share and enjoy. I was about to say that often we appreciate donations of time far more than money, only to realize that Kent had already pointed you to a page on contributing development effort. :-) -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thus spake Phil Edwards: # Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it. A little Googling indicated that your shell may look at it after /etc/profile. But from what I can see, no package actually creates it. It may have been created by a script invoked by you or by a program you installed from sources, but it isn't listed in any packages maintained in Debian. # And more to the point, what's looking at that file? It isn't my login shell, # it isn't any of the setup files that it looks at (.bashrc and so forth). Again, Googling suggested that some shell (not specified in the pages I found) look at it. However, whatever shell looks at it looks at /etc/profile first. # But the variables in that file are getting set somehow, and I'd like to # know how, and what's going to someday break if it gets removed. AFAIK, all the system-wide environment variables in Debian (using BASH as the login shell) are set in /etc/profile, /etc/bashrc and possibly in the scripts in /etc/profile.d. AFAIK, nothing will break if you remove the file, unless it is part of a package you compiled yourself. Nothing at all in Debian itself should break if you remove the file. HTH, PRINCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAW4I3Al2SNUPt1I8RAswXAJ9x1oEp/kzf1E89q6Oc/hZJS3KIZwCfaulH mI9aZx13+7fETLJCEznvZTA= =OfG9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mvs to mp3
Has anyone heard of a tool to convert mvs files to mp3? (mvs being a sony audio file type) The only thing I've been able to come up with is converting to wav and then to mp3. Or, perhaps there's a utility to convert mvs to wav (I'm not aware of a linux utility for this) and then piping that through to a utility for converting wav to mp3 all in one command line? Curtis Vaughan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian queries
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No good reason why, but I am considering switching from SuSE 8.2 to Debian. Knowledge and skill-wise, I probably am still in the "newbie" category, but I can do a heck of a lot more than I could at first. Some questions for those of you who use Debian: 1. In the newest version, how good is the hardware support? I assume it uses x-windows still, and I also assume I will need to find my own driver for my radeon 9800 pro. But what about LCD support (how easily can I adjust refresh rate etc.? I am not afraid to do it by hand, as long as it will let me). My sound card --> Soundblaster audigy. I assume Debian uses ALSA? Hardware support in the volunteer-driven/maintained Debian is probably a bit lagging that of what you'll find in a commercial variant, like SuSE, but as a general rule, if it works in one distro, it'll work in another. I'm currently on an LCD panel; haven't really played with refresh rates, but I sure went through a lot of video settings until I finally learned this Dell has a b0rken BIOS and misreports to the OS the RAM on the integrated Intel video system and downgraded to an earlier non-broken BIOS. For me, getting hardware to work in Linux has been a black art. I can't address directly the Radeon or the Sound Card. I'm using a 2.6 kernel and my sound (again, integrated) just worked. It seems with SuSE and redhat (which I played with for a week or two), my major issues are ALWAYS hardware. Which I doubt is earth shattering. 2. Boot loader --> I am pretty sure I read on their website Debian uses Lilo. How come? I like GRUB. Can I use GRUB? lilo is the traditional boot loader. I understand that the next version of Debian will use GRUB. And even now, and even with earlier versions, you can use either. 3. How easy is apt-get really? See my answer to question 5 below. 4. I couldn't find this on the website, but what desktop does it favor? I do like a GUI, so sue me (heh that rhymes). KDE is my favorite. It doesn't favor one over the other. Debian is an administrator-driven OS, not a RetailOutlet-driven OS. You install what you want. You want KDE? Fine. You want Gnome? Fine. icewm? Fine. You want to switch between them at a moment's notice? Fine. You want to have several X sessions going at once, each with a different GUI? Fine. 5. Does any edition come with OpenOffice, which obviates my need for M$? I know it's in Sid (the playland of the developers, cutting edge, and all that), and I'm confident it's in stable. To get it, try this: apt-get install openoffice.org Bang! It's there. Sweet. 6. For the record, I am more than happy to pay for these releases/donate, so unless the costs associated approach micro$oft's office, price doesn't matter. Debian is pre-eminent among distros in adhering to the principles of Free Software (as in "libre", and as in "no cost"). If you stick with the official Debian repositories, you'll never have to wonder "Has my trial license expired?". Of course, Debian has expenses, so donations (http://www.debian.org/devel/join/) are always welcome. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CUPS
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:55:00AM +, Adam Funk wrote: > On Friday 19 March 2004 06:20, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 18, 2004 at 10:03:12PM -0800, Arron Kau wrote: > >> I've gathered from doing some research on this that I am not the only > >> one to have problems with CUPS. I actually have it installed and > >> working (nominally). I can print from a shell terminal in KDE. > >> However, I _cannot_ print from any of the other programs that I've > >> tried (Openoffice, Evolution, Mozilla). The dialog that comes up with > >> these > > > > Mozilla uses lpr by default. To get printing to work you'd need to > > install cupsys-bsd so that Mozilla can send an "lpr" command that gets > > translated into something the printer will hear. > > > > apt-get install cupsys-bsd > > In my experience, just installing cupsys-bsd didn't make lpr work > (output just disappeared). Me too. > I had to install magicfilter and run > magicfilterconfig. Is that normal? My solution was to use 'lp' instead. -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Hardware Support issues
I tried to configure it but when I started the X server it crashed. here is my config and the output. Any ideas? Christopher J. Noyes - Original Message - From: "Andreas Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 04:06 PM Subject: Re: Hardware Support issues > Hallo > > Christopher J. Noyes (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > > > Does anyone know if there is support for NVIDIA Geoforce 2 video > > cards? > > Support (no acellerated 3D) using the nv driver in XFree 4.1 (is in > Woody) and newer. Acellerated 3D if you install the driver from > nvidia.com. > > best regards > Andreas Janssen > > -- > Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 > Registered Linux User #267976 > http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > XF86Config Description: Binary data XFree86.0.log Description: Binary data
Re: Hardware Support issues
natsemi fails to load. I downloaded the source from the manufacturers site but it failed to compile. Christopher J. Noyes - Original Message - From: "Jason A Whittle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 03:43 PM Subject: Re: Hardware Support issues > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:32:52PM -0500, Christopher J. Noyes wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is support for LinkSys NE 100 TX (LNE0TX v4) network cards? > > Try the 'natsemi' kernel module. > > Cheers, > Jason Whittle > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Laptop net card module
After installing Debian on a laptop everything was working fine. Then after updating to 2.4.18, however, the pcmcia netcard doesn't work. I've determined the following: The module [xirc2ps_cs.o] isn't installed. It seems to be related to another module: ds.o, but when I try to install ds.o, I get the following error: no socket drivers loaded. This error also pops up during boot. So, it would seem that I have to install sockets? The insmod error for ds.o seems also related to the fact that the IO or IRQ parameters are invalid. Do I need to insmod ds.o with parameters? Thanks. Curtis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pinning
Johann Koenig escribió: On Monday March 15 at 01:48pm "Pedro M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How to say to Debian I prefer install Mozilla -unstable and not Mozilla -testing ( only this package in unstable). In /etc/apt/apt.conf APT::Default-Release "testing"; In /etc/apt/preferences Package: gaim Pin: version 1:0.58* Pin-Priority: 1001 You might want to read up on how to specify the release instead of the version in /etc/apt/preferences I tried to use Package: mozilla Pin: version 2:1.6* Pin-Priority: 1001 and I read from Synaptic I have to update mozilla-browser , mozilla-mailnews, mozilla-psm, mozilla-xft When I pin to update them all, I recieve the message I have to update mozilla-chat and so on. Too much pagackes to update-pin manually. Is there any method to simplify it ( install mozilla unstable from testing ) ??. Regards. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian queries
No good reason why, but I am considering switching from SuSE 8.2 to Debian. Knowledge and skill-wise, I probably am still in the "newbie" category, but I can do a heck of a lot more than I could at first. Some questions for those of you who use Debian: 1. In the newest version, how good is the hardware support? I assume it uses x-windows still, and I also assume I will need to find my own driver for my radeon 9800 pro. But what about LCD support (how easily can I adjust refresh rate etc.? I am not afraid to do it by hand, as long as it will let me). My sound card --> Soundblaster audigy. I assume Debian uses ALSA? It seems with SuSE and redhat (which I played with for a week or two), my major issues are ALWAYS hardware. Which I doubt is earth shattering. 2. Boot loader --> I am pretty sure I read on their website Debian uses Lilo. How come? I like GRUB. Can I use GRUB? 3. How easy is apt-get really? 4. I couldn't find this on the website, but what desktop does it favor? I do like a GUI, so sue me (heh that rhymes). KDE is my favorite. 5. Does any edition come with OpenOffice, which obviates my need for M$? 6. For the record, I am more than happy to pay for these releases/donate, so unless the costs associated approach micro$oft's office, price doesn't matter. Thanks! Message posted via www.linuxforums.org . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
El Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:35:56PM -0300, Hector Scaramelli escribió: > On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:15, Katipo wrote: > > root wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of > > > messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian > > > Evolution right now. > > > I need suggestions on how to do it. > > > > > Go to your file menu in Evolution, and click on 'import.' > > Regards, > > > > David. > > > > It does not support .dbx files, just old .mbx from OE4 Just use kmailcvt, it will convert your OE4, OE5 and O6 .dbx files into .mbox ones, there is also another tool called DBXConvert ó DConvert, I don't remember now .. just go to google and lookup fo "Outlook Express convert mbox" and you will find it. Best Regards -- _ _ // Raúl A. Betancort Santana/> A Dream is an answer to __ \\ // <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> // question that we don't know (oo) \\ // Dimensión Virtual S.L. // how to ask. / \/ \ // \> A Linux Solution Provider
Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?
On Friday 19 March 2004 01:03 pm, Phil Edwards wrote: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:12:57PM +, Robert Harris wrote: > > Phil Edwards wrote: > > >Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it. > > > > > >And more to the point, what's looking at that file? It isn't my From my /etc/pam.d/login: # This module parses /etc/environment (the standard for setting # environ vars) and also allows you to use an extended config # file /etc/security/pam_env.conf. # (Replaces the `ENVIRON_FILE' setting from login.defs) auth required pam_env.so -- Rob
Re: Debain over Redhat
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 00:34, Matthew Joyce wrote: > Dear Debian-users, > > An future project here will use Apache/PHP/PostgreSQL on a Dell server. > > The vendor will advocate Redhat, but Debian is the only linux I have > used so that would be my choice. > I will be supporting the box and os, they will support the app. > > I do not know the versions of the packages they will want to use, so I > don't know if vanilla woody will be sufficient. > > I guess what I want to find out is, is there any reason why Debian would > not be able to do the job that they are suggesting Redhat for, and what > reasoning can I use to support my proposing Debian. [ ... ] The very first reason I would use: If you pay, you decide. Fullstop. I'm not an admin. I started running Linux with RedHat Linux about 3 years ago or so on a single user machine, and I started running Debian last summer for the first time. What I find extremely much easier on Debian compared to the RedHat way is the way how system updates are done. I found it extremely more difficult to update my system on RedHat than on Debian. And I'd check very carefully prices that you possibly have to pay nowadays for a RedHat system and its possible updates when they become necessary. All in all I really enjoyed RedHat Linux until some time ago - minus the difficulties regarding packages updates. But as I said: If you pay then you decide. Best Regards Wolfgang -- Profile, Links: http://profiles.yahoo.com/wolfgangpfeiffer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla mail
Pedro M. wrote: Kent West escribió: So at a command line from within Gnome, you're entering "Mozilla" to start the browser, but "Mozilla -mail" does not start the email client? Yes, it starts it, but without the email / news servers, preferences and so on that I see when I start it from Mozilla browser and I click on the email icon. On both commands? Only from the last one "which mozilla" ( using "which Mozilla I obtain no answer). Then I'd venture to say that you're not entering "Mozilla" to start the browser, as you say you're doing above, but rather that you're entering "mozilla". Notice the case; precision is important. ["which mozilla" is replying] [w]ith /usr/bin/mozilla Try the following two commands. First try: /usr/bin/mozilla & and see if you can click on the Mail icon and have your mail preferences show up. Then shutdown Mozilla and . . . Then try /usr/bin/mozilla -mail & and see if your mail preferences show up. If the latter test still fails to show your preferences, suspect something wrong with your profile. I'd suggest you move ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.20Mar2004, then restart mozilla, reset your email preferences, and then retry these two tests. If the second test now works as it should, you can copy over your bookmarks, etc from your old profile. If not, you can delete the newly recreated profile and restore your backup, and look somewhere else for the problem. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X 4.3 for testing (from unstable?)
I am (told that I am) in need of X4.3 to get my graphics card working. Does anyone know whether the X packages from unstable work in testing? Are there other sources of X 4.3 for testing? Asbjørn Sæbø -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resier-FS and nfs.
> Any comments? Do the other journaling fs better then reiser when nfs, > lvm and quotas support are the _main criteria_ for choosing the fs? I'd say that the main attraction of reiserfs is the particularly noticable improvement it offers for speed and storage space used by many small files. I use reiserfs on all my database partitions, but why not stick to something simple like ext2 if you want quotas etc. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 07:52:27PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi: > > I know this one! Download Mozilla Thunderbird for Windows. It will > import your e-mail messages from Outlook. > [...] Or it will not. I have never got this to work myself, despite several tries, although I know that i should work. Asbj.S. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla mail
Kent West escribió: Pedro M. wrote: Kent West escribió: How are you starting mozilla the browser? I suspect that you've got two different versions of mozilla installed, expecially if you're really entering "Mozilla -mail" instead of "mozilla -mail" <-- notice the case of the "M". (I have no "Mozilla" on my system; do you have a custom script?) Try starting "Mozilla" from the command line and then checking the mail icon in the low browser panel. This is what I do now, but I cannot include a command line in Sessions, to stard mozilla mail automatically after Gnome setup. So at a command line from within Gnome, you're entering "Mozilla" to start the browser, but "Mozilla -mail" does not start the email client? Yes, it starts it, but without the email / news servers, preferences and so on that I see when I start it from Mozilla browser and I click on the email icon. I get the answer usr/bin/mozilla On both commands? Only from the last one "which mozilla" ( using "which Mozilla I obtain no answer). And is it replying with "/usr/bin/Mozilla", or with "usr/bin/mozilla"? With /usr/bin/mozilla Thanks for your help. Regards. Pedro. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting extended or logical partions
Hello Christopher J. Noyes (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > I managed to mount my primary DOS/Windows FAT32 partitions on my two > hard drives, i.e. /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 but I can't mount the > logical/extended partitions, i.e /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb2 etc. Does anyone > know an answer for this? You cannot mount the extendet partition, only the logical drives in the extended partition. Logical drives start with /dev/hd?5. dmesg | grep "hda:\|hdb:" can tell you more about your partitions. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:15, Katipo wrote: > root wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of > > messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian > > Evolution right now. > > I need suggestions on how to do it. > > > Go to your file menu in Evolution, and click on 'import.' > Regards, > > David. > It does not support .dbx files, just old .mbx from OE4 Thanks Hector > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bourne Shell help
On Friday 19 March 2004 12:37, Paul Galbraith wrote: > I think this should be an easy question, but after some effort I still > haven't found an answer, and am really curious now! > > I wanted to run a compile in the background (in a bourne shell) and dump > stderr and stdout to a fileshould be simple enough, but obviously I > don't spend enough time in 'sh' to know the answer. I tried this: > >nice make build > /root/XF4-make.out 2>&1 & > > and it doesn't work quite right. If I drop the final '&', the command Works here. What do you mean it doesn't work quite right? What is your output? > runs fine in the foreground, and dumps stdout and stderr to the file, so > that part of things seems ok. It's just getting it to run in the > background that has stumped me. I wrote a one liner script to do the > job...but it's still really bugging me, can anyone tell me how to do it > from the command line? > > Cheers! > > Paul You could also try this: $ nice make build &>/root/XF4-make.out & The bash man page says it's the same as what you entered, so it should work, but since your posted construct should as well, I'm not so sure. Alternately, you could use job control. Run the command without the last '&', then press ^Z, then bg. HTH. Justin Guerin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mounting extended or logical partions
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:35:43PM -0500, Christopher J. Noyes wrote: > I managed to mount my primary DOS/Windows FAT32 partitions on my two hard drives, > i.e. /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 but I can't mount the logical/extended partitions, i.e > /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb2 etc. Does anyone know an answer for this? Please post results of: fdisk -l /dev/hda fdisk -l /dev/hdb Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hardware Support issues
Hallo Christopher J. Noyes (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Does anyone know if there is support for NVIDIA Geoforce 2 video > cards? Support (no acellerated 3D) using the nv driver in XFree 4.1 (is in Woody) and newer. Acellerated 3D if you install the driver from nvidia.com. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:15, Katipo wrote: > root wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of > > messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian > > Evolution right now. > > I need suggestions on how to do it. > > > Go to your file menu in Evolution, and click on 'import.' > Regards, > > David. > In which directory should I put the .dbx files? Thanks Hector > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: YaST
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Tom Allison wrote: > I guess the news is out. > SuSE's YaST is going GPL this year. > > > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5175682.html?tag=nefd_top > > > I've used it and found it a pretty decent tool. Me too. > I'm curious to hear what the Debian community has to say about this. I just filed an Intent To Package it. -- Jaldhar H. Vyas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> La Salle Debain - http://www.braincells.com/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
root wrote: Hi, I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian Evolution right now. I need suggestions on how to do it. Go to your file menu in Evolution, and click on 'import.' Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
Dave Carrigan wrote: Which is 100% true based on your initial assumptions. Uhm, no. It is 100% correct based on what I know. However, if your initial assumptions are false, then this is also false. Your initial assumption is false. No, your assuption is false. Where was it ever said that I use DSPAM. *You* use DSPAM. *I* use SpamAssassin. I have no inclination of changing that. Your assumption is that I was either using what you use or that I was willing to switch to what you use. Your assumption was wrong. Granted they can filter on their end but the whole point is that they don't download it. Filtering comes after downloading. This is another mistaken assumption of yours. Filtering does not require downloading. The whole reason I use server-side spam testing and IMAP is because I telecommute and do not want to download 100 messages when 99 of them are going to be spam. You're assuming all of my users will be using IMAP. I never once said all users were using IMAP. I simply stated my requirements for IMAP. A full 1/2 my users, in fact, use POP. I did mention elmo as well. I am not familiar with mutt's IMAP implementation and I'd be willing to wager that it isn't up to par given the preponderance of things mutt does wrong as well as how often most clients get IMAP wrong. Given the number of mistaken assumptions you've made so far, I'll wager that this one is mistaken as well. Given the number of mistakes you think I have made I think I can discount you as a credible source of information as you seem to be enamoured with what your setup does to the point of blinding you of what was asked. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
KDE Mouse Failure
I have just installed Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "woody". I can bring up gnome just fine but when I try to bring up kde I get the following message: (**) Generic Mouse: Protocol: "ImPS/2"(**) Generic Mouse: always reports core events(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device.(EE) Generic Mouse: cannot open input device(EE) PreInit failed for input device "Generic Mouse"(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Configured Mouse" (type: MOUSE)Fatal server error:Caught signal 4. Server abortingI do have /dev/input/mice and I am using a PS/2 mouse. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks...
Re: Hardware Support issues
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 03:32:52PM -0500, Christopher J. Noyes wrote: > Does anyone know if there is support for LinkSys NE 100 TX (LNE0TX v4) network cards? Try the 'natsemi' kernel module. Cheers, Jason Whittle -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hardware Support issues
Does anyone know if there is support for LinkSys NE 100 TX (LNE0TX v4) network cards? Does anyone know if there is support for NVIDIA Geoforce 2 video cards? Christopher J. Noyes
mounting extended or logical partions
I managed to mount my primary DOS/Windows FAT32 partitions on my two hard drives, i.e. /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 but I can't mount the logical/extended partitions, i.e /dev/hda2 /dev/hdb2 etc. Does anyone know an answer for this? Christopher J. Noyes
Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 06:05:36AM -0500, Phil Edwards wrote: > Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it. > It is created by the "locales" package installation scripts. > And more to the point, what's looking at that file? It isn't my login shell, > it isn't any of the setup files that it looks at (.bashrc and so forth). > But the variables in that file are getting set somehow, and I'd like to > know how, and what's going to someday break if it gets removed. > -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Make your own Debian Woody Dist. Server on Apache
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Simmel wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 11:11:08 +0100 > From: Simmel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Make your own Debian Woody Dist. Server on Apache > Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:11:37 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hi Guys, > Hello > short question. I'd like to avoid to download every tiny package from the > net, so I decided to setup an Apache to limit the out and ingoing traffic. > > How do I need to setup the server, so that new boxes will find the packages > on the local server? > I think "apt-proxy" would be the best bet for you. Install and configure it on the server and point all new machines to the server as the apt repository. > Are there any things I need to be care about, or can I just copy file by > file from every CD to the /var/www of my apache? > Using the packages on the CD can also be done using apt-proxy. Just use the "import" switch in it. > Thanks for the quick help, > Simmel > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > HTH, rrs Ritesh Raj Sarraf Email: rrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] researchut.com Web: http://www.researchut.com Phone: +91-9899655651 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFAW1Yr4Rhi6gTxMLwRApdRAKCuxrzH729ALJel7nzaNWVl9kOAkwCaA0qY eq+TrD7P0E2leWQie99+gtg= =bsYc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which package creates /etc/environment?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 12:12:57PM +, Robert Harris wrote: > Phil Edwards wrote: > >Because 'dpkg -S' can't find it. > > > >And more to the point, what's looking at that file? It isn't my login > >shell, > >it isn't any of the setup files that it looks at (.bashrc and so forth). > >But the variables in that file are getting set somehow, and I'd like to > >know how, and what's going to someday break if it gets removed. > > > Comparing the date of my /etc/environment with the dates in my > /usr/share/doc directory, it looks to me as if the culprit is > libbonobo2-common. But my /etc/environment is empty! The plot thickens. I don't have libbonobo2-common installed. :-) -- Behind everything some further thing is found, forever; thus the tree behind the bird, stone beneath soil, the sun behind Urth. Behind our efforts, let there be found our efforts. - Ascian saying, as related by Loyal to the Group of Seventeen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Microsoft TrueType fonts not working now?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 01:34:10PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote: > I just tried to install Microsoft TrueType fonts on my laptop via the > msttcorefonts package. All seemed to go off correctly and the fonts > appeared where expected in /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/ > I also modified /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 as instructed to reflect the above > path. I also tried "xset fp rehash". > > However, the fonts do not show up with xfontsel and when starting X I > get an error message about not being able to init the above path. > Try running ttmkfdir -d in the directory to create the fonts.scale file, also copy it to fonts.dir. Besides that make sure that X lodes either the freetype or xtt module. > Does this mean that Microsoft has inactivated these fonts so that they > no longer work? > > AC > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk > using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic > Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:09:05AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > CW Harris wrote: > >mutt *can* access IMAP servers if that's what you mean. > > Mutt isn't the only client that people can use. I guess I just completely misunderstood you. I thought you were questioning if the IMAP mail was available on the local machine with mutt or elmo (not familiar with elmo). I wasn't trying to imply mbox or mutt or whatever was a *best* solution, especially not for your particular needs. I'm certainly not trying to be a guru handing out advice. Backing out now, since I have nothing constructive to offer. Good luck. > Last I checked there's only about 2 dozen clients that can read mbox, > most of which have either no IMAP support or lame IMAP support at best. > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your >PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of >souls. > ---+- -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X problems with kernel 2.6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2.6.x kernels do: # modprobe mousedev; # modprobe psmouse; HTH, rrs On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, Didier Caamano wrote: > Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 03:00:29 -0700 > From: Didier Caamano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: X problems with kernel 2.6 > Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:00:33 -0600 (CST) > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Greetings: > > I'm having a little bit of trouble starting X with kernel 2.6.4 from > unstable, I was using the standard kernel that comes with woody, then I > upgraded it using the normal method: apt-get install kernel-image. > With the old kernel X work flawlessly, but after the upgrade it start > having troubles with the mouse, the error is: > Cannot open /dev/psaux device does not exist, the thing is that it does, > cuz I went back to 2.4 and X worked just fine. > > Is this just a bug that is being fixed or it is actually a problem in my > computer; any hint in how I can work with this problem will be > appreciated. > > Well, have a nice day everyone, > Didier. > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Ritesh Raj Sarraf Email: rrs [EMAIL PROTECTED] researchut.com Web: http://www.researchut.com Phone: +91-9899655651 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFAW1E74Rhi6gTxMLwRApbdAJ9bQ+kL0jOUjaaD4U+LOPKv0ja9gwCgk+tw WWw2KHM7e/4W/QDg/X7UYGk= =kp5A -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 11:22:47AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Dave Carrigan wrote: > >As for putting extra headers into a message, I'm not sure why you think > >this is a problem. That's what headers are for -- to convey > >meta-information about a message. > > Because forwarded messages are not the same as the original message. > If the person forwards it as a MIME attachment, for example, the > (re)learned message contains a different set of headers completely as well > as a slew of unrelated MIME encapsulation data. If it is bounced properly > the bounce headers are learned as either ham or spam. This extranious > information can lead to false positives or negatives. Yes, but my understanding of DSPAM is that it doesn't retrain on the forwarded message. It saves the list of tokens that the original message generated, linked to a unique key. Then when someone forwards a message to be retrained, it extracts the key from the forwarded message, and changes the weights of the tokens associated with that key. This means you can bounce, forward as mime, forward inline, or just send the key alone and DSPAM will do the right thing. > >>It introduces statistics which are meaningless in the final analysis. > > >Not sure what this means. > > What this means is that even if the ham and spam corpus got the same > numver of meaningless statistics to render forwarded/bounces message > headers/data as "undefined" and therefore not used it is still data that is > being taken up in the classifier's DB. Which is 100% true based on your initial assumptions. However, if your initial assumptions are false, then this is also false. Your initial assumption is false. > Granted they can filter on their end but the whole point is that they don't > download it. Filtering comes after downloading. This is another mistaken assumption of yours. Filtering does not require downloading. The whole reason I use server-side spam testing and IMAP is because I telecommute and do not want to download 100 messages when 99 of them are going to be spam. DSPAM adds a special header to the message that identifies it as spam, and Cyrus delivers all messages with that header into a different mailbox than my INBOX. I examine that mailbox periodically, and after a cursory scan for false positives, I delete everything else, without downloading anything other than a few message headers. > I did mention elmo as well. I am not familiar with mutt's IMAP > implementation and I'd be willing to wager that it isn't up to par given > the preponderance of things mutt does wrong as well as how often most > clients get IMAP wrong. Given the number of mistaken assumptions you've made so far, I'll wager that this one is mistaken as well. -- Dave Carrigan Seattle, WA, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.rudedog.org/ | ICQ:161669680 UNIX-Apache-Perl-Linux-Firewalls-LDAP-C-C++-DNS-PalmOS-PostgreSQL-MySQL Dave is currently listening to Mary-Chapin Carpenter - Come On Come On (Come On Come On) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: cups on sarge
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 18:38, messmate wrote: > Hi, > I've updated my sarge packages within cups. > However, cupsd won't starting anymore :( > Is there any bug on that final16 release ?? > Thanks for your help It works for me, it might have bugs though. chech /var/log/cups/error_log Kenneth > mess-mate > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
Hi: I know this one! Download Mozilla Thunderbird for Windows. It will import your e-mail messages from Outlook. It will also, incidentally, translate them into a usable format. The resulting files are in a well-hidden (and literally hidden) directory. On my computer, in: C:\Documents and Settings\mbailey\Application Data\Thunderbird\Profiles\default\42o4an22.slt\Mail\Local Folders\Outlook Mail0.sbd "Application Data" is a hidden directory. If you transfer these files to your Linux box, Evolution will import them. Apparently, Mozilla Thunderbird won't read the actual Outlook files. :-( You have to load it onto the machine that is running Outlook. Good luck! Mark > > Hi, > > I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of > messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian > Evolution right now. > I need suggestions on how to do it. > > TIA > Hector > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mozilla Firefox Plugins
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 17:09, James Hosken wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Is there a way to apt-get firefox plugins? > I can't find any when searching apt-cache, but I'm sure there will be. > > Can any one point me in the right directions? > Thanks > J > Apt-get for some other mozilla browser and then you copy plugins to: /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins Kenneth > > - -- > James Hosken > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.jamesho.co.uk > GnuPG Key ID: 0x44CB1D77of > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFAWxs5/FajwUTLHXcRAmeAAJ9VAYekChAGRmM1POtbH856Hp0naACfaA9A > z+F5Llt7a6HoaMehO8ekcos= > =OMrx > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to export messages from outlook express
root wrote: Hi, I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian Evolution right now. I need suggestions on how to do it. TIA Hector I haven't looked in a couple of years, but when I was looking, Outlook was a one-way street, like the Hotel California. You can get your data in, but you can't get it out. I think there may be some pay-for tools now that will do it, but I haven't looked lately. The easiest free route is probably to use your server's IMAP capabilities (hope you have it) and move your Outlook messages to the server using IMAP, then pop, fetchmail, IMAP them down to Evolution. -- Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bourne Shell help
I think this should be an easy question, but after some effort I still haven't found an answer, and am really curious now! I wanted to run a compile in the background (in a bourne shell) and dump stderr and stdout to a fileshould be simple enough, but obviously I don't spend enough time in 'sh' to know the answer. I tried this: nice make build > /root/XF4-make.out 2>&1 & and it doesn't work quite right. If I drop the final '&', the command runs fine in the foreground, and dumps stdout and stderr to the file, so that part of things seems ok. It's just getting it to run in the background that has stumped me. I wrote a one liner script to do the job...but it's still really bugging me, can anyone tell me how to do it from the command line? Cheers! Paul -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
how to export messages from outlook express
Hi, I'm in the last steps of my migration from M$ to Debian. I have 400MB of messages that I need to have available in my mail client. Using Ximian Evolution right now. I need suggestions on how to do it. TIA Hector -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables and snort
On Thu, 2004-03-18 at 22:36, Col @ Home wrote: > Hi, > > Am trying to set up a firewall on a Debian linux machine using > iptables. New > to linux, can anybody point me in the direction of > a good guide to configuring a firewall using iptables? > > I also want to get snort and acidlab going. Any help on that would be > appreciated as well. > > I am a bit paranoid about security, are there any programs that can > perform > security audits? > > Thanks! > C. > For Snort you can use this: #Snort binaries backport deb http://people.debian.org/~ssmeenk/snort-stable-i386/ ./ The one in woody is very old. Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mozill hangs due to realplayer 8
On Fri, 2004-03-19 at 17:30, H. S. wrote: > Apparently, _Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen_, on 03/15/04 12:39,typed: > > It sounds like a sound problem. > > If you are running esd or arts and realplayer tries to use oss you can > > get problems like this. > > Or opposite. > > Try to configure relaplayer to use the same as the system otherwise. > > Kenneth. > > > > You are right. Killing "esd" works. But by killing esd, I loose event > sounds :( Is there any workaround I could have both, realplayer *and* > event sounds in gnome? > > Thanks, > ->HS 1. In realplayer you click on view. 2 you select "preferences" 3. you select "performance" 4 you select "Esound support (Linux only, ESD must be running) 5 you click ok 6. Restart realplayer. OK? > > > -- > (Remove all underscores,_if any_, from my email address to get the > correct one. Apologies for the inconvenience, but this is to reduce spam.) > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
Dave Carrigan wrote: As for putting extra headers into a message, I'm not sure why you think this is a problem. That's what headers are for -- to convey meta-information about a message. Because forwarded messages are not the same as the original message. If the person forwards it as a MIME attachment, for example, the (re)learned message contains a different set of headers completely as well as a slew of unrelated MIME encapsulation data. If it is bounced properly the bounce headers are learned as either ham or spam. This extranious information can lead to false positives or negatives. How, you ask? Well it has been my experience that the vast majority of mail that would need to be retrained is missed spam. This is on the order of several magnitudes. This means depending on the method used and how the tokenizer breaks down the message it is possible that the Bayesian classifier will learn that "messages forwarded/bounced from one account to another in the domain foo.com is spam" is far more likely than a balance of those headers between the ham and spam corpus keeping them in, at best, the undefined catagory. The end result is, for example, with enough training if I forwarded mail to my fiancee it could be tagged as spam and she'd never get it. It introduces statistics which are meaningless in the final analysis. Not sure what this means. What this means is that even if the ham and spam corpus got the same numver of meaningless statistics to render forwarded/bounces message headers/data as "undefined" and therefore not used it is still data that is being taken up in the classifier's DB. From what I have seen most classifiers limit the number of entries in their DB with the little used entries falling of far before the common entries. By having known useless entries marked as ham, spam or undefined (such as forwarding messages around the same machine) it becomes a well used entry that never drops off that adds nothing new or, at worse, can contribute to false positives. Is there a particular reason that you need SMTP scanning? I do not believe it is right to accept and then silently drop messages. I never reject or discard messages, and my logs show exactly where every message was delivered, down to the final mailbox. There is a possibility that I might not see a message, but that doesn't mean it didn't get delivered. And those logs are accessable to all your users? Remember, this isn't for just me. This is for me and the family of mine that have chosen to host some of their mail on my machine because of the spam prevention I offer them. They simply do not want to download the spam at all. So if someone sends them a messag which is tagged as spam there are only two options for it. Either it is rejected at SMTP so the other side can see from their logs/bounces that it is rejected or it must be tagged and delivered. Any spam over a certain score (8) is rejected. Anything between two scores (5 and 8) is tagged and delivered. I cannot, however, tag all spam and then deliver it because that serves no purpose at all. Granted they can filter on their end but the whole point is that they don't download it. Filtering comes after downloading. The 5-8 range allows for a nominal margin of error while rejected the most obvious cases outright. So what you're saying is that you accept all, tag and deliver anyway? Ew. I'm using mutt and I'm using cyrus, so I'm not sure what this means. If you're implying that you can't read your mail without an imap client, then I'll concede that. Big deal. For me, the benefits of imap far outweigh the disadvantage that there may be some mail clients that I can't use. I did mention elmo as well. I am not familiar with mutt's IMAP implementation and I'd be willing to wager that it isn't up to par given the preponderance of things mutt does wrong as well as how often most clients get IMAP wrong. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
libc6 - initscripts conflict
Hello, I am trying to upgrade libc6 2.3.2.ds1-10 to libc6_2.3.2.ds1-11 in Sid, but I get this error: dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.3.2.ds1-11_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite `/etc/default/devpts', which is also in package initscripts The installed version of initscripts is 2.85-11. Could someone give me a hint on how to solve this? Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
CW Harris wrote: mutt *can* access IMAP servers if that's what you mean. Mutt isn't the only client that people can use. I so love people who think that the entire Unix world uses procmail to filter mail, mutt to read mail, etc, etc, etc. while the whole time pointing out one of the defining features is how flexible the pipeline method is so replacing any particular component is trivial. Last I checked there's only about 2 dozen clients that can read mbox, most of which have either no IMAP support or lame IMAP support at best. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Modem connection disrupted after upgrade with apt-get
I have just completed an 'Upgrade' via apt-get (NOT a 'dist-upgrade'). The only resulting problem I'm aware of is that I can no longer dial out. The TR (is that actually DTR) and RTS indicators on the modem are switching on and off - off for about half a second, on for about a second. If wvdial catches them in the 'off' stage dial up begins successfully but is immediately killed by the 'on' part of the cycle. Can anyone shed any light on why this might be happening, or how I can find out, and what solutions there might be. Here are the results of statserial: Device: /dev/ttyS1 Signal Pin Pin Direction Status Full Name(25) (9) (computer) Name - --- --- - -- - FG 1- - - Frame Ground TxD 23 out - Transmit Data RxD 32 in - Receive Data RTS 47 out 1 Request To Send CTS 58 in 0 Clear To Send DSR 66 in 0 Data Set Ready GND 75 - - Signal Ground DCD 81 in 0 Data Carrier Detect DTR 204 out 1 Data Terminal Ready RI 229 in 0 Ring Indicator Any help would be graetly appreciated. Thanks, Alisdair -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IMAP server to fit this bill?
On Fri, Mar 19, 2004 at 08:03:47AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > Dave Carrigan wrote: > >showstopper. Cyrus 2.1 works just fine with Squirrelmail, and it > >supports shared folders with full ACLs. Plus, after you move your mbox > >messages into the Cyrus message store, they're available from anywhere. > > Except for the local machine unless I'm mistaken in that mutt and elmo > can access Cyrus' DBs directly? :P mutt *can* access IMAP servers if that's what you mean. -- Chris Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- GNU/Linux --- The best things in life are free. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dsl Verizon.com
H. S. wrote: Apparently, _Christopher J. Noyes_, on 03/19/04 00:00,typed: I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem connected to a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure this on debian? Christopher J. Noyes (maybe this explains why you are using M$ LookOut to post this :)) Could be that since he can't get his home internet setup he has to post from work, where only MSO is available. BTW, have you tried Mozilla on WIndows? But coming back to your query, pppoeconf should automatically detect the DSL connection on one of youe eth cards, as longas the cable is connected and the modem is switched ON. Don't waste time with pppoe. Set your NIC to pick up a DHCP address, plugin the modem, and surf to http://192.168.1.254 Everything is configurable from there. ->HS -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: dsl Verizon.com
Paul Johnson wrote: "Christopher J. Noyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I have DSL with verizon.com. It uses a Westel Wirespeed external modem connected to a network card though ethernet. Does anyone know how configure this on debian? If you're lucky, and they're not using PPPoE, then this will be easy. All you need to do is plug that puppy into your gateway box and try setting it up like it's on a DHCP-configured network, and it should Just Work. If it uses PPPoE, check google. Looking through the dwww running on my site, I find a DSL HOWTO... http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/HOWTO-INDEX/../DSL-HOWTO/index.html ...and the Bridge+Firewall+DSL HOWTO... http://ursine.ca/cgi-bin/dwww?type=file&location=/usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-html/HOWTO-INDEX/../Bridge%2BFirewall%2BDSL.html Hope this helps. This guy here explains how to setup a westell in Linux: http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/westell_linux.shtml -Roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Console is screwy (shows what looks like boot log)
Hello Jorge Santos (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: > Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Brad Sims (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote: >> >>> My virtual consoles (ie F1-whatever) after a short period >>> will go screwy and show what looks like boot logs or >>> multi-color flashing garbage... I tried /c and even the reset >>> command to no avail... They are fine after a hardware reboot >>> but this is annoying... SSH works just fine, as does XFree86. >>> >> Do you use any framebuffer driver? I had the same problem switching >> from XFree to a console using rivafb. Vesafb of plain text mode work >> > Hello, I'm having a similar problem and I would like to know how do I > get the kernel to use vesafb or plain text mode. To use the vesafb driver, it has to be compiled into the kernel (the normal Debian 2.4 kernel packages from Woody except bf2.4 don't support that), and you have to select a mode using the vga parameter in your boot loader configuration. Read the Framebuffer Howto (package doc-linux-html) to learn more about it. To use plain text mode, set the vga parameter to normal (vga=normal). In some cases you excplicitly have to switch off the vga16 framebuffer driver. Add "video=vga16:off" to the append line in your boot loader configuration. best regards Andreas Janssen -- Andreas Janssen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> PGP-Key-ID: 0xDC801674 Registered Linux User #267976 http://www.andreas-janssen.de/debian-tipps.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dell Inspiron 8100 pcmcia services broke after "aptitude upgrade"
I've installed Libranet (debian) on my friends Dell Inspiron 8100 laptop, using a Xircom CardBus Ethernet 10/100 +56K Modem The install went fine, and I set everything up as he wanted. The network was working, so we could get on my Internet access. I then ran "aptitude update", followed by "aptitude upgrade:, and this is where things went down hill. After dpkg/aptitude started installing the updated files, it got to the "pcmcia-cs" updated file, and it promptly hung than machine. I couldn't change screens 0x0003) eth0: Xircom CardBus revision 3 at irq 10 PCI: Enabling device 03:00.1 ( -> 0003) ttyS04 at port 0x4080 (irq = 10 ) is a 16550A cardmgr[408]: watching 2 sockets cs: IO probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean cs: IO probe 0x0800-0x08ff: And that is where it just sits. I'm trying to get him off of windos xp. I booted into Knoppix 3.3, and configured the laptop for my LAN, and internet access, that works as advertised Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
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