Re: aptitude trap: 'hold' directives not honored.
On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 01:03:22PM -0700, Karsten M. Self wrote: > There are apparently three package selection databases. These should be > either unified or cross-validated: > > - dpkg > - apt > - aptitude > > Anyone else running into this? Karsten, don't bother. Every time someone brings up the fact that aptitude, everyone's darling perfect child, does its own damn thing and re-implements the status file... they get told to go away. What's even *better* is that command-line aptitude (insert random quote about how aptitude is a drop-in replacement for apt-get, which it isn't) and ncurses aptitude, *don't have the same behavior!* Ncurses aptitude *does* honor the status file. Sometimes. I'm sorry, but dpkg is the *fundamental* tool. If you don't honor its interfaces, you are *broken*. 'Nuff said. -- Marc Wilson | It is not doing the thing we like to do, but liking [EMAIL PROTECTED] | the thing we have to do, that makes life blessed. | -- Goethe signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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Re: have used only 4904 out of 9729 cylinders, but "No free sectors available"
James Sinnamon wrote: Command (m for help): Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 522 4192933+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA ) /dev/hda2 523 555 265072+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 556186010482412+ 83 Linux /dev/hda41861490424450930f W95 Ext'd (LBA ) /dev/hda518612513 5245191 83 Linux /dev/hda625143035 4192933+ 83 Linux /dev/hda730363296 2096451 82 Linux swap /dev/hda832973557 2096451 83 Linux /dev/hda935583688 1052226 83 Linux /dev/hda10 *36894904 9767488+ 83 Linux Command (m for help): No free sectors available Command (m for help): You might want to try enlarging /dev/hda4 to take up the rest of the drive first. Normally with linux extended partitions[Id=5] this isn't necessary, but I don't know about W95 Ext'd(LBA) extended partitions. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
RE: have used only 4904 out of 9729 cylinders, but "No free sectors available"
> Partition check: > /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 < p5 p6 p7 p8 Did you create all the partitions as "primary" by chance? (i.e. No "Logical") Regards, MB
Re: have used only 4904 out of 9729 cylinders, but "No free sectors available"
On Mon, 24 May 2004 01:47 pm, James Sinnamon wrote: > Dear Debian users, > > During my installation of a 'testing' (I think) system I partitioned > my 80Gig hard disk drive. I have been told that I have not provided enough information. My apologies to all. I installed Debian 'testing' from a 110MB CDROM which I had downloaded from my other machine. During the install, I partitioned my 80Gig Hard disk (WDC WD800JB-00ETA, ATA - see dmesg output below). I only partitioned about roughly 45 Gig and planned to do the rest at a later stage. When I did, using fdisk, and entered the 'n' for 'new partition' command, I got the message No free sectors available -- see further below. Could someone please tell how to get around this problem? TIA. James -- 1. dmesg output, show information about 80 Gig (Western Digital?) Hard Disk Drive hda: WDC WD800JB-00ETA0, ATA DISK drive blk: queue f8826460, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0x) hdc: CDU5211, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 hda: attached ide-disk driver. hda: 156301488 sectors (80026 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63, UD MA(100) Partition check: /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: p1 p2 p3 p4 < p5 p6 p7 p8 p9 p10 > Journalled Block Device driver loaded kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Adding Swap: 2096436k swap-space (priority -1) EXT3 FS 2.4-0.9.19, 19 August 2002 on ide0(3,10), internal journal 2. Output from fdisk The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 9729. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) Command (m for help): Disk /dev/hda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9729 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 522 4192933+ c W95 FAT32 (LBA ) /dev/hda2 523 555 265072+ 83 Linux /dev/hda3 556186010482412+ 83 Linux /dev/hda41861490424450930f W95 Ext'd (LBA ) /dev/hda518612513 5245191 83 Linux /dev/hda625143035 4192933+ 83 Linux /dev/hda730363296 2096451 82 Linux swap /dev/hda832973557 2096451 83 Linux /dev/hda935583688 1052226 83 Linux /dev/hda10 *36894904 9767488+ 83 Linux Command (m for help): No free sectors available Command (m for help): -- James Sinnamon jps at westnet com auStralia ph +61 412 319669, +61 2 95692123, +61 2 95726357 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Sun 23 May 2004 12:39, Pigeon wrote: > > And who would provide the money to pay for all the emails that > debian-user sends out? You'd exempt it when you signed up. It would probably have to be made a condition of signing up in fact. Likewise, sending email to the list would have to be restricted to those who had signed up to prevent it from becoming a last outlet of spamming (this should probably be done anyway...). -- David P James Ottawa, Ontario http://david.jamesnet.ca ICQ: #42891899, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you've lost something, you had to lose it, not loose it. pgpyy4de1Jpu4.pgp Description: signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Sun 23 May 2004 18:56, Katipo wrote: > David P James wrote: > >On Sat 22 May 2004 14:07, John L Fjellstad wrote: > >>David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >>Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not > >> be much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean > >> a meal for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be > >> limited to those who can afford it? > > > >If someone is living such a hand-to-mouth existence it's highly > > unlikely they'll even have access to the internet. > > Incorrect. > There are projects in India and Extremadura,Spain for example, that > qualify for exactly that definition. No they don't. Those people are poor, no doubt about it, but they don't fit in the same category as the previous example of Somalia or to a lesser degree Vietnam either. > > If you introduce any aspect of the internet as a commodity available > for a price, you also introduce the concept of the price rise. And that's a problem because...? > > >No system is ever going to be completely accessible to the > > destitute, > > So let's make sure they stay where they belong? Take that back - right now. Take it back. I neither said nor implied any such thing. What I wrote was a statement of what I believe to be a fact, not a desireable outcome. The reasons for that is a whole other issue, but it's safe to conclude that free email access isn't going to solve their destitution (because if it would, it would already have happened or at least be underway). > > >and I doubt that the current system serves them at all anyway (if > >anything, if they have access at all, they're likely to find > > themselves on the same ISP as a spammer and consequently blocked by > > other ISPs and users using RBLs). The current state of email is > > another example proving the economic concept known as "The Tragedy > > of the Commons". > > The concept of 'The Tragedy of the Commons', was first expounded by a > biologist describing reasonably accurately, what happens at, say, the > bacterial level, and then adopted as a false universal principle, and > applied to the broad spectrum. Where did you come up with the idea that it was based on what happens at the bacteria level? About the only accurate fact there is that it was developed by a microbiologist and ecologist, although he pointed out that conceptually it had existed for a long time. > > > Any > >valuable 'free' resource (I say 'free' in the sense of free to the > >user) will be overused, in some cases to the point of exhaustion or > >depletion. > > Rubbish. This is 'The Tragedy of the Commons'. > This idea has been disproven any number of times. Really? many species of whales, fish, elephants/rhinos for ivory, erosion of pasture and farmland, depletion of forests, waterways filled with pollution, roads congested with traffic, etc etc. All of it Common or treated as such, all of it driven to depletion/exhaustion/extinction. > Economics begins with the concepts of 'rivalrous' and non-rivalrous' > resources in the commons. Uh, no it doesn't. > Please elucidate, just for example, how a > 'non-rivalrous' resource is overused to the point of depletion or > exhaustion. How is an idea depleted in the sharing of it? Ok, I'll give you credit there - a non-rivalrous resource is one not subject to scarcity, so it would have been more precise of me to say "Any valuable and scarce 'free' resource will be overused, in some cases to the point of exhaustion or depletion." > There will > be just as much of this email left over after you have finished > reading it, as when you began. No matter that you merely delete it to > rid yourself of the inconvenience of the views expounded. What are you trying to say here? What has this got to do with anything else? The resource in question here is an individual's inbox. The size of your inbox is finite at any point in time. It can only accept so much email before it is filled. This one will fill up in less than two days if I don't empty it. Most of that is spam with another good chunk being viruses. The rest is mailing list mail. At the rate things are going, and assuming no expansion of capacity, it may get to the point that my inbox won't last half a day. Once that happens the inbox will have become practically useless to me. And why is that? Because my inbox is essentially a communal resource for all the world to send to. For all intents and purpose it's being driven to exhaustion. What's true for me is also true for anyone running mail servers. -- David P James Ottawa, Ontario http://david.jamesnet.ca ICQ: #42891899, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you've lost something, you had to lose it, not loose it. pgpwGZqqSoYNg.pgp Description: signature
Graphical-Installation
Hello Dears Debian Members, yesterday I try to install graphical debia first time and I succeeded during installation i face lot of questions now I want to clear my concept about questions which I faced during installation. 1st Question: After choosing my VGA driver i faced this question. Rather than communicating directly with the the video hardware, the X server may be configured to perform some operations, such as video mode switching. se kernel Frame buffer device interface. please help me what me should do here install kernel frame buffer or not? 2nd Question. Inorder to enable ordinary users to use SVGA consol graphics usualy considered to be security hazard. Do yu want to install gnuplot setuid root. Please give tell me what i can to do here. Install gnuplot or not? --- 3rd Question: Mozila now support TrueType font. -- so please tell me i should install Freetype2 support or not? --- 4th question: the i faced another question about Mozila and it was (some times mozila hangs since plugin (e.g. FlashPlugins lock you can use dsp wrapper to resolve it. none auto esddsp alrtsdsp please help me which option me should choose? - 5th question: Net i got about key board. Configure XServer-XFree86 Please Select your keyboard model pc104 --- pleae help me what kind of option me should select? if i have (PS2 keyboard) then what option should me selected? if i have (USB key Board) then what kind of option selected? thanks and regards, Umar DRaz __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Domains Claim yours for only $14.70/year http://smallbusiness.promotions.yahoo.com/offer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: have used only 4904 out of 9729 cylinders, but "No free sectors available"
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 22:47, James Sinnamon wrote: > Dear Debian users, > > During my installation of a 'testing' (I think) system I partitioned > my 80Gig hard disk drive. > > I think I recall having used a Debian front end to fdisk. I deliberately > did NOT use an option which caused the change to be permanent, > nevertheless, it seems possible that the change is permanent. I > hope I am wrong. > > I partitioned about 45Gig, and planned to finish partitioning some > other time. > > However fdisk now informs me: > > No free sectors available > > What should I do? You've given us very little specific information. Could you include a bit more detail? How is your partition table currently laid out, what exactly are you trying to do with fdisk that's giving you the "No free sectors available" message, etc. Once we have a better idea of what's going on we might be able to troubleshoot your problem more effectively. -- Alex Malinovich Support Free Software, delete your Windows partition TODAY! Encrypted mail preferred. You can get my public key from any of the pgp.net keyservers. Key ID: A6D24837 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: apache/php/mysql help
On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:48:25 -0400 Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been running apache/php/mysql successfully for a very long > time. Suddenly this morning my php web pages return > > Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() > > I can process the web page from the command line but not from apache. > > OK, I've found the problem but I don't know how to correct it. > > When apache loads php4 it looks for /usr/lib/php4/20010901/mysql.so > which it can't find. The directory is there but the file is not. > However/usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so does exist. > > How can I get things back in sync? This sounds like a version mismatch. On a couple of servers I work on running Debian testing, the mysql.so modules match the php4/20020429 path, but on the Debian stable servers, the mysql.so module matches the php4/20010901 path. Check which version of php4-mysql you have installed (dpkg -l php4-mysql). For the 20010901 path, you need version 4.1.2-6woody3. (If you find you do have a version mismatch, as I suspect, you have two choices; downgrade php4-mysql, or upgrade the rest of your php4 packages, and possibly apache and mysql, too). HTH, Jacob -- GnuPG Key: 1024D/16377135 Random .signature #38: Windows NT -- it'll drive you buggy! pgphdM48cDl0S.pgp Description: PGP signature
have used only 4904 out of 9729 cylinders, but "No free sectors available"
Dear Debian users, During my installation of a 'testing' (I think) system I partitioned my 80Gig hard disk drive. I think I recall having used a Debian front end to fdisk. I deliberately did NOT use an option which caused the change to be permanent, nevertheless, it seems possible that the change is permanent. I hope I am wrong. I partitioned about 45Gig, and planned to finish partitioning some other time. However fdisk now informs me: No free sectors available What should I do? TIA James -- James Sinnamon jps at westnet com auStralia ph +61 412 319669, +61 2 95692123, +61 2 95726357 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 10:03:10PM -0400 or thereabouts, Adam Aube wrote: > sda wrote: > > > OK, did the upgrade and I am booted into a new 2.4.x kernel. The only > > problem is that the new kernel, doesn't recognize my ethernet card eth0, > > so I don't have a network on the Debian box. > > > > Is there any way to fix this? I did modprobe for Realtek (which I believe > > is my card) but there aren't any modules for it. All my services seem to > > be running, Apache, MySQL, samba, etc. > > The module name changed between 2.2 and 2.4. The new module name is 8139too. Ah -- onward & upward. Thanks. -- Steve + Sunday May 23 2004 10:53:01 PM EDT + I want to kill everyone here with a cute colorful Hydrogen Bomb!! pgpMyyGPvOZx8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
sda wrote: > OK, did the upgrade and I am booted into a new 2.4.x kernel. The only > problem is that the new kernel, doesn't recognize my ethernet card eth0, > so I don't have a network on the Debian box. > > Is there any way to fix this? I did modprobe for Realtek (which I believe > is my card) but there aren't any modules for it. All my services seem to > be running, Apache, MySQL, samba, etc. The module name changed between 2.2 and 2.4. The new module name is 8139too. Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
lost open in new active tab in firefox context menu for links
I just lost the open in new active tab option in firefox after the last upgrade today (don't know if it is related). I have tab extensions installed, and I looked in the context option in the settings, under expert it seems to have an open in ... option but its grayed out. Any ideas anyone? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel panic
I am dual booting xp and linux on a single harddrive. I got both booting with xp controlling the mbr and I added my linux grub bootsector to the xp boot.ini in order to get linux to boot. I installed debian off the sarge net install cd using the 2.6 kernel. The kernel that came with it runs fine, but I compiled and installed a new kernel and it will not run. When I boot to it, it complains : VFS: Cannot open root device "hda3" or unknown-block(0,0) Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) By the way: /dev/hda3 is / /dev/hda6 is boot The auto generated boot options in grub are as follows(the top two work, the bootom don't): title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.5-1-386 root(hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro initrd /initrd.img-2.6.5-1-386 savedefault boot title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.5-1-386 (recovery mode) root(hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro single initrd /initrd.img-2.6.5-1-386 savedefault boot title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.5 root(hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5 root=/dev/hda3 ro savedefault boot title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.5 (recovery mode) root(hd0,5) kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.5 root=/dev/hda3 ro single savedefault boot Might this have something to do with the no initrd option? I thought debian boot loaders used the whole vmlinuz vmlinuz.old scenario, is there a way to make this work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mingetty refuses to run on /dev/tty[1-6]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using mingetty to run login in my virtual terminals. As of last night, whenever I boot the system, mingetty refuses to allocate the virtual terminals. I tried using rungetty, and it will open the ttys, but it refuses to run login or any other program. Rungetty refuses to run its login in any tty, whereas mingetty will run login in tty1 but refuses to open any other tty. I am also running ledcontrol, and whenever I restart ledd it opens /dev/tty[2-6] but mingetty and rungetty still refuse to run logins in those ttys. - From the look of things, getty works normally, but I prefer mingetty or rungetty, as they are for consoles only, so they are smaller and run faster, and I don't have anything other than virtual consoles that need gettys. Here is a listing of the permissions of the first 6 ttys: crw---1 lorenzo tty4, 1 May 23 17:08 /dev/tty1 crw---1 root root 4, 2 May 23 09:50 /dev/tty2 crw---1 root tty4, 3 May 21 21:41 /dev/tty3 crw---1 journee tty4, 4 May 22 13:02 /dev/tty4 crw---1 root root 4, 5 May 21 07:19 /dev/tty5 crw---1 root root 4, 6 Apr 30 15:13 /dev/tty6 So it looks like the ttys are retaining the ownership of their logins before this problem started. However, some ttys are still root.tty and mingetty still refuses to open them. Changing the ownership of /dev/tty[1-6] doesn't work either. Since I try to reboot my system as little as possible, I'm not sure exactly when this problem actually started. There are no error messages regarding ttys in dmesg, /var/log/syslog or any other log, and I couldn't find a log for mingetty or rungetty, which also produce no errors. I installed udev yesterday before I noticed the problem. Naturally, it was the first package I suspected when I noticed it. So I removed udev, but the problem persists. I tried mounting /dev using devfs, and mingetty will open /dev/vc/*, but a lot of other things are broken because of the relocations and name changes of devices in the devfs filesystem, and devfsd doesn't solve this problem. So I took a rescue CD I happen to have on hand and fixed /etc/fstab so that it would no longer mount /dev as devfs, and since I had mounted devfs over the existing /dev, the original /dev remained unbroken except for my mingetty problem. Could udev have messed up my ttys so that mingetty can't open them as virtual consoles? If so, what do I need to do to remake those devices? Thanks for any help, PRINCE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAsVNOAl2SNUPt1I8RAm3/AJ4pXaAKRx2eEvufKBkyoteXppr+KgCfVbJT SQB+VZM6pnnreZ7DEieDDHg= =vigq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Solved] Re: X can't find synaptics driver
On Mon, May 24, 2004 at 01:50:10AM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote: > I tried installing the xfree86-driver-synaptics (up to a spelling > mistake here) for unstable. I then added Load "synaptics" to > XF86Config-4 as the docs say. > When trying to start X I then get a message that the synaptics driver > was not found. I checked and its in the right place with the right > permissions. > > Any ideas/solutions ? > Found the problem. I have mach64 dri installed which looks for its drivers in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-mach64/ instead of /usr/X11R6/lib/modules. Making a symbolic link solved the problem. > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > +++ > This Mail Was Scanned By Mail-seCure System > at the Tel-Aviv University CC. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 02:41:30PM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from S.D.A.: > > I've seen that warning before, and perhaps I'm slow, but what goes there > > exactly, and where in my liloconf do I put it? initrid=(name of my kernel image?) > > This is my grub kernel stanza: > > - > title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.18-1-686 > root(hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=1 acpi=off > initrd /initrd.img-2.4.18-1-686 > savedefault > - > > My /boot is a separate partition, which is why it appears everything's > in / (root). You'll want lilo to know where your kernel is (Debian > usually makes a link /vmlinuz -> /path/to/your/kernel/vmlinuz-2.4.25-1-386) > and say initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.25-1-386. > > You could read up on man mkinitrd for some background. You shouldn't > need it if you're just installing a kernel image package though. Everything is cool now, S. Keeling. Excuse me,for sending the previous response directly to you. Thunderbird doesn't have a 'list-reply'. -- Steve + Sunday May 23 2004 08:16:02 PM EDT + One good turn deserves another. -- Gaius Petronius pgp6813stexo7.pgp Description: PGP signature
apache/php/mysql help
I have been running apache/php/mysql successfully for a very long time. Suddenly this morning my php web pages return Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() I can process the web page from the command line but not from apache. OK, I've found the problem but I don't know how to correct it. When apache loads php4 it looks for /usr/lib/php4/20010901/mysql.so which it can't find. The directory is there but the file is not. However /usr/lib/php4/20020429/mysql.so does exist. How can I get things back in sync? -- "... the state ... is not armed with superior honesty, but with superior physical strength." -- Henry David Thoreau Rick Pasotto[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.niof.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB card readers that work?
On Sunday 23 May 2004 14:33, SJ Straith wrote: > richard lyons wrote: [...] > > "PC-line". I recollect it cost 7 GBP. I also use one > > of the same brand for SD cards. The only problem is > > the need to reboot when switching between types of media > > (though I am told the usb can be reset without rebooting > > - I forget how and have been too lazy to look it up). > > While I'm fairly sure that a large proportion of the readers > of this list already know all of what comes next, just > incase there are any newbies who are interested ... > > The only way I know of doing it is to "mount" and "unmount" > the flash memory just like I do a cdrom. > I have just been spurred by your reply to spend a fruitless hour searching the archive. There was a thread late last summer about this, and I was told there that this was a known problem. Clearly, umounting and mounting will allow change of card, but it fails when changing type of media. For example, you can read any number of smart media cards, but if you then umount, plug in an SD card, and mount, you get "not a valid block device" or similar (from memory). Same if you switch to a disgo or memory stick. If you reboot the other kind will work, but you can't change back for the same reason. I was offered various workrounds, none of which worked. They told me then that it was a kernel issue (IIRC) but unlikely to be resolved soon. [...] > Then in fstab I just put the line: > > /dev/sda1 /cflash vfat defaults,rw,user,noauto,gid=50,umask=002,exec > 0 2 My fstab entry is just /dev/sda1 /card vfat noauto,user 0 0 I don't think any of your other options are the reason I cannot switch media type, but I may be wrong. Oh, and I think you don't need the '2' at the end - isn't that for disk checking at bootup? -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
Incoming from sda: > OK, did the upgrade and I am booted into a new 2.4.x kernel. The only > problem is > that the new kernel, doesn't recognize my ethernet card eth0, so I don't > have a > network on the Debian box. > > Is there any way to fix this? I did modprobe for Realtek (which I believe > is my Google: groups.google.com # try "+realtek +debian" Debian: lists.debian.org Which Realtek card? What does "lspci -vv" say about it? Does "modprobe ne2k-pci" do anything useful? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Realtime Capabilities
On Sun, 23 May 2004 19:02:37 -0400 "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am trying to get Jackstart working and get a message "cannot get > realtime capabilities, current capabilities are =ep cap_setpcap-ep > Probably running under kernel with capabilities disabled, a suitable > kernel would have printed something like =eip" [ snip ] You already posted this question once before, and only about five hours ago. You might wanna give people a chance to respond. And in any case, I immediately spent an hour writing a long reply and posted it, maybe an hour and a quarter after your first asking. Was it not useful? -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgpHorxNtEv37.pgp Description: PGP signature
Kernel Realtime Capabilities
I am trying to get Jackstart working and get a message "cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are =ep cap_setpcap-ep Probably running under kernel with capabilities disabled, a suitable kernel would have printed something like =eip" My current kernel is 2.6.3 compiled with Preemptable Kernel enabled. At www.djcj.org/LAU/guide I found the Low-Latency 2.4.x with ALSA HOWTO and tried compiling a 2.4.3 kernel according to the instructions given but could not find a Low latency scheduling option in Processor Types and Features. I am using ALSA and a Soundblaster Live card and have no problem with these - i.e. I can input the signal from an external phonograph, from the computer's cdrom drive or from a wav file on the hard drive and the output from any of these goes to my stereo system. I want to capture the phonograph output, remove cracks and clicks and write the processed file to cd. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to get Jackstart to work. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linksys Router Setup Failed - Fixed
The victory is not particularly satisfying as I don't know how we fixed the problem. On the plus side,the Linksys tech support was alway immediately reachable and worked tirelessly in four long phone sessions to find and fix the problem. On the negative side I had to do all this on my grandson's laptop running Windows XP Pro. I am sure I had already tried everything the tech support people suggested. One of those actions must have been correct but required a reboot although there was no message to this effect. While it is frustrating not to know what fixed the problem it may never come up again as this was a one time setup which should remain in effect until setup is run again. Finally, I really suspect that there has been a security change which prevented me from doing this running Linux. Specifically, reaching the setup page requires a DHCP setup. Our LAN normally uses fixed IP addresses. When I changed one system to DHCP a link came up immediately but still when the IP address of the setup page was entered in Mozilla there was an immediate message that the connection was refused. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X can't find synaptics driver
I tried installing the xfree86-driver-synaptics (up to a spelling mistake here) for unstable. I then added Load "synaptics" to XF86Config-4 as the docs say. When trying to start X I then get a message that the synaptics driver was not found. I checked and its in the right place with the right permissions. Any ideas/solutions ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about installing nvidia driver
On Sun, 23 May 2004 20:13:54 +0200, LeVA wrote: > 2004. május 23. 18:19 dátummal Alexander Schmehl ezt írta: >> * LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040523 16:25]: >> > You must have the compiled(!) kernel sources, if you are using 2.6.*. >> >> Shouldn't kernel-headers be sufficient? >> > When I've compiled my 2.6.5 kernel, and installed the nvidia drivers, it > was ok. But after the make clean in /usr/src/linux (symlink to > linux-2.6.5) the installer didn't work. And that was because it couldn't > find the version file, which contains the kernel source's version, which > exists in the 2.4* kernel's sources by default, but with 2.6* kernel, you > must make the kernel to create that version file. > > This is just my experience. Try it, and you'll find out if it is working. > > Daniel > just built nvidia drivers (nvidia installer), all I have is stock Debian kernel and kernel headers; worked like a charm for me, perhaps it's just beginner's luck (potential Mandrake convert ;-) ). $ ls -l /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux -> /usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.3-1-386 which is mostly symlinked to ../kernel-headers-2.6.3-1 (hope I'm doing this right...) $ uname -r 2.6.3-1-386 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
OK, did the upgrade and I am booted into a new 2.4.x kernel. The only problem is that the new kernel, doesn't recognize my ethernet card eth0, so I don't have a network on the Debian box. Is there any way to fix this? I did modprobe for Realtek (which I believe is my card) but there aren't any modules for it. All my services seem to be running, Apache, MySQL, samba, etc. Help please. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - trivial programming language
On Sunday 23 May 2004 12:35, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote: > Hi Richard > > On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:55:35PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. > > > > I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving > > as many fields as possible. [...] > I did a similar thing using awk. Actually, it tries to convert a > xml addressbook format to csv, but it can be rewritten to do the > other way. > > See http://www.fahnenmueller.privat.t-online.de/abx2csv/ [...] Thanks, Joachim. I have downloaded it and had a quick look. I find awk very taxing to read, but I get the drift, and shall be able to learn a few things from it - if I can only fond the time to sit with the man page and the script ... -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wrong characters displayed in console
Since I upgraded to the 2.6 kernel series, I noticed that extended characters like the German "umlauted" vowels are being displayed wrong on my framebuffer console. If I open, say in Emacs, the same file in an xconsole the characters are displayed right (so I know the problem isn't an Emacs character mapping problem). The characters also display properly when I reboot into a framebuffer console under kernel 2.4.X (leading me to suspect the problem is specific to 2.6). Does anybody have any idea what's wrong with my kernel 2.6 console setup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
David P James wrote: On Sat 22 May 2004 14:07, John L Fjellstad wrote: David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Now suppose you could demand a payment whenever someone sent you an email. It would only need to be a few pennies in all probability. Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not be much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean a meal for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be limited to those who can afford it? If someone is living such a hand-to-mouth existence it's highly unlikely they'll even have access to the internet. Incorrect. There are projects in India and Extremadura,Spain for example, that qualify for exactly that definition. Of course, of necessity, it is only open source which caters to *this* market. For those who are somewhat better off, there are a number of things to consider. Those with whom that person is likely to be communicating via email will be under similar circumstances, so they'll set their fees accordingly (and of course most people would exempt those with whom they communicate regularly anyway). Second, it is probably better to think of this system as one of including a deposit which in all likelihood will be returned (if only because the recipient might have to pay access your inbox to reply). Third, even if you don't get your payment back, email will still be cheaper and more reliable than most of the other options available to you, such as mail and telephone. If you introduce any aspect of the internet as a commodity available for a price, you also introduce the concept of the price rise. No system is ever going to be completely accessible to the destitute, So let's make sure they stay where they belong? and I doubt that the current system serves them at all anyway (if anything, if they have access at all, they're likely to find themselves on the same ISP as a spammer and consequently blocked by other ISPs and users using RBLs). The current state of email is another example proving the economic concept known as "The Tragedy of the Commons". The concept of 'The Tragedy of the Commons', was first expounded by a biologist describing reasonably accurately, what happens at, say, the bacterial level, and then adopted as a false universal principle, and applied to the broad spectrum. I believe we have made at least some advance on that level of existence, no matter what the efforts of that social sub-group known as 'economists' may choose to believe and impose on the thought structures, and therefore the existence of others. Any valuable 'free' resource (I say 'free' in the sense of free to the user) will be overused, in some cases to the point of exhaustion or depletion. Rubbish. This is 'The Tragedy of the Commons'. This idea has been disproven any number of times. Economics begins with the concepts of 'rivalrous' and non-rivalrous' resources in the commons. Please elucidate, just for example, how a 'non-rivalrous' resource is overused to the point of depletion or exhaustion. How is an idea depleted in the sharing of it? There will be just as much of this email left over after you have finished reading it, as when you began. No matter that you merely delete it to rid yourself of the inconvenience of the views expounded. A number of people have already commented in this thread that if things get much worse they'll give up on email altogether. A communication system based on recipient bears the preponderance of costs will always be open to such a problem (iirc, this problem existed with faxes as well). As an economist, I look at the billions of dollars, resources and manhours wasted on dealing with spam and think of all the investments, jobs and other more useful spending and activities that didn't take place because of it. Any economic study, and resultant projected report, propounds to have taken all values into consideration. I have found that to be rarely the case. Very few economic reports take into consideration social, cultural or environmental costs/values. When they finally wake up to the fact that the mere fiscal view does not cater to the full spectrum of social requirement, will be when I begin to think that perhaps economics is maturing as a science, instead of merely adhering to fiscal market requirement. It will also incidentally, assist greatly in the scenario of the destitute. Who pays for the services of economists? Obviously not the destitute. The same goes with Microsoft's monopoly rent (or tax as some call it) of course, but that's a different problem :) Wrong again. Same old song. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 02:41:30PM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from S.D.A.: > > On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:36:26PM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > > > You'll need to move kernel modules out of the way if the new kernel's > > > /lib/modules/`uname -r` exists already; apt-get will warn about this if > > > > I'm not sure I understand this. Could you explain a little more in detail? > > If you've previously installed a 2.4.25-1-386 kernel, along with it > came /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386/*, and apt-get/aptitude will refuse to > clobber it (feature!) when installing a newer one. If you haven't > tried this before, that directory won't exist, and this warning is > irrelevant. > > If that dir does exist: > > mv /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386 /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386_old > > will solve the problem. Ah OK, I'm kosher, as I haven't attempted to install another kernel on this box. :) > > > If this kernel uses initrd (likely), you'll need to add an > > > initrd=... line to your grub/lilo config, and re-run lilo if using > > > lilo. > > > > I've seen that warning before, and perhaps I'm slow, but what goes there > > exactly, and where in my liloconf do I put it? initrid=(name of my kernel image?) > > This is my grub kernel stanza: > > - > title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.18-1-686 > root(hd0,1) > kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=1 acpi=off > initrd /initrd.img-2.4.18-1-686 > savedefault > - > > My /boot is a separate partition, which is why it appears everything's > in / (root). You'll want lilo to know where your kernel is (Debian > usually makes a link /vmlinuz -> /path/to/your/kernel/vmlinuz-2.4.25-1-386) > and say initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.25-1-386. Excellent, I can follow this. Thank-you very much for your time and help! -- Steve + Sunday May 23 2004 04:46:02 PM EDT + Morton's Law: If rats are experimented upon, they will develop cancer. pgpGBjXtNveSK.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
Incoming from S.D.A.: > On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:36:26PM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > > Incoming from S.D.A.: > > > > > > I originally installed woody, then upgraded to testing. Consequently I never > > > upgraded my original woody kernel. > > > > > > I would like to upgrade my kernel to 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386'. Is it a simple > > > manner of just 'aptitude install 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386' or are there > > > > You'll need to move kernel modules out of the way if the new kernel's > > /lib/modules/`uname -r` exists already; apt-get will warn about this if > > I'm not sure I understand this. Could you explain a little more in detail? If you've previously installed a 2.4.25-1-386 kernel, along with it came /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386/*, and apt-get/aptitude will refuse to clobber it (feature!) when installing a newer one. If you haven't tried this before, that directory won't exist, and this warning is irrelevant. If that dir does exist: mv /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386 /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-386_old will solve the problem. > > If this kernel uses initrd (likely), you'll need to add an > > initrd=... line to your grub/lilo config, and re-run lilo if using > > lilo. > > I've seen that warning before, and perhaps I'm slow, but what goes there > exactly, and where in my liloconf do I put it? initrid=(name of my kernel image?) This is my grub kernel stanza: - title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.4.18-1-686 root(hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz-2.4.18-1-686 root=/dev/hda9 ro hdc=scsi vga=1 acpi=off initrd /initrd.img-2.4.18-1-686 savedefault - My /boot is a separate partition, which is why it appears everything's in / (root). You'll want lilo to know where your kernel is (Debian usually makes a link /vmlinuz -> /path/to/your/kernel/vmlinuz-2.4.25-1-386) and say initrd=/boot/initrd.img-2.4.25-1-386. You could read up on man mkinitrd for some background. You shouldn't need it if you're just installing a kernel image package though. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Inconsistency detected by ld.so
Hi, when i try to run aptitude i've this error : Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dynamic-link.h: 62: elf_get_dynamic_info: Assertion `! "bad dynamic tag"' failed! Anything else runs fine, what about that ? Thanks for your help.(woody) mess-mate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 01:36:26PM -0600 or thereabouts, s. keeling wrote: > Incoming from S.D.A.: > > > > I originally installed woody, then upgraded to testing. Consequently I never > > upgraded my original woody kernel. > > > > I would like to upgrade my kernel to 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386'. Is it a simple > > manner of just 'aptitude install 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386' or are there > > You'll need to move kernel modules out of the way if the new kernel's > /lib/modules/`uname -r` exists already; apt-get will warn about this if > you don't do it ahead of time. Simply repeating the "aptitude install > ..." line will continue where it left off. I'm not sure I understand this. Could you explain a little more in detail? > If this kernel uses initrd (likely), you'll need to add an > initrd=... line to your grub/lilo config, and re-run lilo if using > lilo. OK, thanks. I've seen that warning before, and perhaps I'm slow, but what goes there exactly, and where in my liloconf do I put it? initrid=(name of my kernel image?) Thanks for responding. -- Steve + Sunday May 23 2004 03:41:01 PM EDT + Among the lucky, you are the chosen one. pgpJVOZIxXV9k.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
Incoming from S.D.A.: > > I originally installed woody, then upgraded to testing. Consequently I never > upgraded my original woody kernel. > > I would like to upgrade my kernel to 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386'. Is it a simple > manner of just 'aptitude install 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386' or are there You'll need to move kernel modules out of the way if the new kernel's /lib/modules/`uname -r` exists already; apt-get will warn about this if you don't do it ahead of time. Simply repeating the "aptitude install ..." line will continue where it left off. If this kernel uses initrd (likely), you'll need to add an initrd=... line to your grub/lilo config, and re-run lilo if using lilo. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*) http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling - - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Realtime Capabilities?
Before I start to reply, I want to recommend to you the linux-audio-users and linux-audio-developers mailing lists. The djcj.org link you cite below *comes from* the homepages for these two mailing lists; "LAU" in the URL stands for linux-audio-users. Not to put this list down, but that's a better place for questions like yours in the future. Here in debian-user, it's probably a very very small fraction of the readership that has messed with this stuff; on the linux-audio-users mailing list, just about *everybody* has at one point or another. That said . . . On Sun, 23 May 2004 14:08:16 -0400 "Thomas H. George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am trying to get Jackstart working and get a message "cannot get > realtime capabilities, current capabilities are =ep cap_setpcap-ep > Probably running under kernel with capabilities disabled, a suitable > kernel would have printed something like =eip" > > My current kernel is 2.6.3 compiled with Preemptable Kernel enabled. At > www.djcj.org/LAU/guide I found the Low-Latency 2.4.x with ALSA HOWTO and > tried compiling a 2.4.3 kernel according to the instructions given but > could not find a Low latency scheduling option in Processor Types and > Features. > > I am using ALSA and a Soundblaster Live card and have no problem with > these - i.e. I can input the signal from an external phonograph, from > the computer's cdrom drive or from a wav file on the hard drive and the > output from any of these goes to my stereo system. > > I want to capture the phonograph output, remove cracks and clicks and > write the processed file to cd. > > I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to get Jackstart to work. OK, there are actually several different issues you raise here: preparing your kernel for low-latency work, preparing your kernel for JACK, and running the JACK server, jackd (in your case, through the intermediate program jackstart). PREPARING YOUR KERNEL FOR LOW-LATENCY WORK -- 1. The procedures for preparing your kernel for low-latency are different for 2.4.x kernels and 2.6.x kernels. In the 2.4.x series, you have to patch the kernel source and recompile, using either Robert Love's preemptable kernel patch, or Andrew Morton's low-latency patch, or both. These two patches can coexist just fine, and most people have had best results patching with both; but there have been exceptions. If you want to make sure you get the best results, then you want to build a kernel with one, build a kernel with the other, build a kernel with both, and build a plain kernel with neither patch, and then do some latency testing of each and compare the results. But the point is that you have to patch the kernel source; you can't enable this stuff simply by selecting menu options in the kernel configuration process. These patches are available for Debian kernels: see for example the kernel-patch-2.4-lowlatency and kernel-patch-2.4-preempt packages. In the 2.6.x kernels, most of what these patches bought you in 2.4.x has been incorporated into the kernel source, so there's no need to patch the kernel. 2. Did you make a typo in your second paragarph above? Did you mean to say "2.4.3"? The 2.4.3 kernel is incredibly old, with a variety of issues/problems you don't want to deal with. The Debian packages for the two relevant kernel patches aren't going to work with a kernel that old; I think neither of them work with anything earlier than 2.4.18. Their package description pages will say. You do not want 2.4.3. 3. For low-latency work, you may not want a 2.6.x kernel. Amongst the linux-audio crowd, they're getting mixed reviews. One would think that incorporating the aspects of those two patches, as well as other speedups the 2.6.x series contains, would make it a slamdunk; but it ain't necessarily so, for reasons which I don't truly understand, not being a kernel hacker. If you're interested in this subject, see this thread from the LKML about pre-emption in the 2.6 kernels, and potential issues with it: http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2702 I'd personally recommend building both a 2.4.20-something kernel and a 2.6.x kernel and testing both; but that's me. PREPARING YOUR KERNEL FOR JACK -- 1. jackd does not *require* realtime capabilities. It works a lot better if it has them, but it does not require them. You have three choices in this regard: - forego realtime capabilities; - run jackd as root, since root has privileges to get realtime access; - Edit your kernel source to enable what's called "POSIX capabilities inheritance," which allows non-root user processes to obtain such privileged capabilities as realtime access. Each of these has its own drawbacks, and you've got to decide what's best for you. The con of the first is obvious: you don't get realtime capabilities, so your latency numbers will be higher and there's a higher likelihood of xruns. The con
upgrading kernel 2.2.20-idepci
Folks: I originally installed woody, then upgraded to testing. Consequently I never upgraded my original woody kernel. I would like to upgrade my kernel to 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386'. Is it a simple manner of just 'aptitude install 'kernel-image-2.4.25-1-386' or are there additonal steps one needs to take, when upgrading from such an old kernel? Tips, hints, appreciated. -- Steve + Sunday May 23 2004 03:06:01 PM EDT + How long does it take a DEC field service engineer to change a lightbulb? It depends on how many bad ones he brought with him. pgp6rwY6jid35.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Question about installing nvidia driver (no version for "struct_module")
LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > When I've compiled my 2.6.5 kernel, and installed the nvidia > drivers, it was ok. But after the make clean in /usr/src/linux > (symlink to linux-2.6.5) the installer didn't work. And that was > because it couldn't find the version file, which contains the kernel > source's version, which exists in the 2.4* kernel's sources by > default, but with 2.6* kernel, you must make the kernel to create > that version file. You story sounds like bug #242163. There are a few workarounds: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=242163 http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/troubleshooting.html I also have some nvidia trouble. Perhaps someone can help me I am trying to configure my nvidia card (Sarge + 2.6.5 vanilla kernel). I followed the standard procedure from /usr/share/doc/nvidia-source. XFree86 works with the "nvidia" driver, but I don't get any glx-display. (II) Loading sub module "ISO8859_1" (II) LoadModule: "ISO8859_1" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/codeconv/libISO8859_1.a (II) Module ISO8859_1: vendor="X-TrueType Server Project" compiled for 4.1.0.1, module version = 1.3.0 Module class: XFree86 Font Renderer ABI class: XFree86 Font Renderer, version 0.2 (II) UnloadSubModule: "ISO8859_1" (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/codeconv/libISO8859_1.a (WW) Cannot open APM (II) NV(0): WC region has to be split (0xc000,0x3e8) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc000,0x200) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc200,0x100) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc300,0x80) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc380,0x40) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc3c0,0x20) (==) NV(0): Write-combining range (0xc3e0,0x8) (**) NV(0): DPMS enabled (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA XFree86 driver not found) [gnalle_~]% bzflag Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". Can't create window. Exiting. In my /var/log/syslog this produces the following lines May 16 16:43:23 nissefisken kernel: nvidia: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. May 16 16:43:23 nissefisken kernel: nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. May 16 16:43:23 nissefisken kernel: 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-5336 Wed Jan 14 18:29:26 PST 2004 May 16 16:43:23 nissefisken udev[12367]: creating device node '/dev/nvidia0' May 16 16:43:23 nissefisken udev[12366]: creating device node '/dev/nvidiactl' If I start start x with the "nv" driver, and then modprobe "nvidia" afterwards, then I get the same three lines nvidia: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. 0: nvidia: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-5336 However now the nvidia module is loaded: nissefisken# lsmod | grep nvidia nvidia 2068648 0 What is struct_module. Is struct_module the reason why my nvidia does not work for me? Log files (These correspond to using xfree with the "nv"-driver) http://dirac.ruc.dk/~gnalle/boot http://dirac.ruc.dk/~gnalle/syslog.0 nissefisken# dpkg -l kernel-image-2.6.5-1-386 Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:uppercase=bad) ||/ Name Version Description +++-==-==- ii kernel-image-2.6.5-1-386 2.6.5-4 Linux kernel image for version 2.6.5 on 386. nissefisken# uname -r 2.6.5-1-386 I did a bit of googling and I found a person who reported a somewhat similar error on debian-boot: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=1OiKz-8is-33%40gated-at.bofh.it&rnum=1 Sonmeone posted that he got the following error fglrx: no version for "struct_module" found: kernel tainted. fglrx: module license 'Proprietary. (C) 2002 - ATI Technologies, Starnberg, GERMANY' taints kernel. [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 431 MBytes. [fglrx] module loaded - fglrx 3.7.6 [Mar 5 2004] on minor 0 I would be grateful for any hints and enlightening flames :) Niels -- Niels L Ellegaard http://dirac.ruc.dk/~gnalle/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres ident error
On Sun, May 23, 2004 at 14:46:34 -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: > >PostgreSQL doesn't care about /etc/passwd. The default client > >authentication settings care about what user is connecting to the > >database server through a UNIX socket. > Gee I must have missed something in the pg_hba configuration files. > > IDENT is clearly the only authentication model used and sockets are not > used at all. In the default configuration Debian's PostgreSQL doesn't listen on TCP/IP sockets at all; it is only accessible locally through a Unix socket. > And others have mentioned that the IDENT process usees the /etc/passwd > files for the authentication. The "ident" authentication method does not imply the use of an ident server process. For local connections (the only connections available with the default configuration), the "ident" authentication method uses getsockopt(... SO_PEERCRED ...) and getpwuid(). Typically but not necessarily getpwuid() consults /etc/passwd. For TCP/IP connections (when enabled), the response given by the remote ident server is used. Ray -- "People should never have been given free will." Lots of languages. Larry Wall on common fallacies of language design -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unidentified subject!
I have a rather unusual problem. When I want to instal Debian (Sarge) i have an ( when the instalation reaches 70 %)debootstrap error( debotstrap returned 1) . The whole sytuation is more strange beceuse this is the second time I instal debian( the first ended with sucses). If anybody has an sugestion I will be greateful. thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which disk device driver
John Smith (a.k.a Jan, apparently) wrote: > installed a new 3.0r2 box with (obviously) 2.4.18-bf2.4. > Tried to upgrade to 2.4.26 by installing the kernel-image but Exactly what kernel did you install? 2.4.26 is not part of 3.0r2. Where did you get it from? > The root= option in /etc/lilo.conf is identical between both > kernel versions, and since 2.4.18 boots, is obviously correct. This is why knowing the exact kernel is important. If you installed an initrd kernel then those lines will be different. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Display Catch-22
My Belkin UPS probably saved my computer from the power surge but its internal programming is probably fried. I reinstalled the software from the Linux tarball changing all the ownerships to root:tom and all the permissions to 770. This allows me to display the monitor but I cannot change the setup. When I originally installed the UPS I did all this as root and was able to change the setup. This is no longer possible as security changes do not allow me to open a display as root. The only thing to change is the com port which I was certain I had right in the first place. To be sure I uninstalled the programs and reinstalled them changing from /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/ttyS1. Neither works though /dev/ttyS0 retrieved some information but in either case the installed software generates periodic messages that the UPS device is unreachable. This is what makes me believe the UPS internal software is fried. Before replacing it I would like to be sure that the display problem is resolved. I have searched the X11, xdm and icewm setup files trying to remove the restriction preventing opening a display as root. My plan would be to take the computer offline (The connection is wireless so ifdown wlan0 does this) during the time the root prohibition is overwridden. Any suggestions? Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Howto install Debian Sarge kernel 2.6.3 on Software RAID1?
Joost Kraaijeveld said: > Hi, > > Is there someone that has Debian Sarge with kernel 2.6.3 (from the > installer > beta 4) installed on a software RAID1 and is willing to hare his/her > knowledge with me how to do that? > > I have followed the procedures as described in: > > 3. http://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ I wrote this document. It documents how to convert to software raid, not how to install directly to software raid. While it's possible to install directly to software raid, I have not documented it. The biggest recurring problem is: Kernel does not have software raid loaded as module or compiled into kernel. Trust me the directions on the document are correct as i've had hundreds of people use it. Try installing to a normal non-raid, then covert to software raid, this will help you understand the process. Then once you understand the process, determine how to install directly to software raid in the installer. Then send me the directions on what you did to install direct from the installer, and I will include them in the document. Contact me with any further questiosn concerning this, thanks. -- --Luke CS Sysadmin, Montana State University-Bozeman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres ident error
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 19:36:38 -0400, Tom Allison wrote: I created a user in psql but now I can't log in as that user. I get an error psql: FATAL: IDENT authentication failed for user "dbmail" This implies that I need to have all my users for pgsql listed in both the /etc/passwd file and the postgres database. No. It implies you haven't set PostgreSQL's client authentication settings to ones you like. Or does postgres just us the /etc/passwd file for all of it's authentications? PostgreSQL doesn't care about /etc/passwd. The default client authentication settings care about what user is connecting to the database server through a UNIX socket. The relevant documentation is the "Client Authentication" chapter of the PostgreSQL documentation: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/client-authentication.html HTH, Ray Gee I must have missed something in the pg_hba configuration files. IDENT is clearly the only authentication model used and sockets are not used at all. And others have mentioned that the IDENT process usees the /etc/passwd files for the authentication. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS
On Sunday 23 May 2004 08:44, Nick Croft wrote: > * Jens Simmoleit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > ... you might also check if this has something to do with the > > bios settings. AFAIK all modern printers (from 3-5 years back) > > use bidirectional settings to communicate. Maybe it's turned off? > > > > So you can send the signals to the printer but it won't come back > > with any answers because it can't??? > > This may be it. Wish I could get to the BIOS without shutting down! You are lucky to be able to get to the BIOS at all. My thinkpad 600E has only software access to the BIOS (the tpctl tools don't work for me) and I cannot even set a bios password - which I much prefer to have on a laptop. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: USB card readers that work?
richard lyons wrote: On Wednesday 19 May 2004 15:52, Walter Tautz wrote: I would imagine almost anything would work but I'd like a list of models people have used with debian and which they may have also used with their digital cameras. My intent [...] As far as I can see, anything does work. I have an Olympus C220, which happens to be one that is not > supported by gphoto etc (apparently on account of a > coding error by Olympus IIRC), but I simply pop the > smart-media cards into any card reader that is around and read it, write it or whatever (In fact, I also use > them for data transfer from country to country or from computer to computer). Same here. I use the cheapest available reader, a blue blob called > "PC-line". I recollect it cost 7 GBP. I also use one of the same brand for SD cards. The only problem is the need to reboot when switching between types of media (though I am told the usb can be reset without rebooting - I forget how and have been too lazy to look it up). While I'm fairly sure that a large proportion of the readers of this list already know all of what comes next, just incase there are any newbies who are interested ... The only way I know of doing it is to "mount" and "unmount" the flash memory just like I do a cdrom. What I did was: su - [to get to root, of course] cd / mkdir cflash cd /etc nano /etc/fstab Then in fstab I just put the line: /dev/sda1 /cflash vfat defaults,rw,user,noauto,gid=50,umask=002,exec 0 2 [all on one line, of course. *sigh* wordwrap gets you every time.] Note: This line DOES assume that you have sda1 available, if you don't then use whatever sd you have available. I also have such links for two more flash cards at sdb1 and sdc1. Then if you don't have "usb-storage" compiled into your kernal, do a "sudo modprobe usb-storage" and as long as your system is up you can just do a mount /cflash to access your flash card. umount /cflash to dismount your flash card and switch. [snip] -- SJ Straith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] May the Lords of Luck and Chance be always at your side, and may your hand always be a winner. ** There is always more than one way to do a job. ** ** The object is to pick the most effective way to do it. ** ** You can have Freedom or Peace, ** ** Don't EVER count on having both. ** -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Realtime Capabilities?
I am trying to get Jackstart working and get a message "cannot get realtime capabilities, current capabilities are =ep cap_setpcap-ep Probably running under kernel with capabilities disabled, a suitable kernel would have printed something like =eip" My current kernel is 2.6.3 compiled with Preemptable Kernel enabled. At www.djcj.org/LAU/guide I found the Low-Latency 2.4.x with ALSA HOWTO and tried compiling a 2.4.3 kernel according to the instructions given but could not find a Low latency scheduling option in Processor Types and Features. I am using ALSA and a Soundblaster Live card and have no problem with these - i.e. I can input the signal from an external phonograph, from the computer's cdrom drive or from a wav file on the hard drive and the output from any of these goes to my stereo system. I want to capture the phonograph output, remove cracks and clicks and write the processed file to cd. I would appreciate any suggestions as to how to get Jackstart to work. Tom George -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mose Wheel Scroll and less.
Hi folk. How can I use wheel scrolling for man (less)? Thanx. -- Зарегистрируйте бесплатный почтовый ящик @inet.ua -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about installing nvidia driver
2004. május 23. 18:19 dátummal Alexander Schmehl ezt írta: > * LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040523 16:25]: > > You must have the compiled(!) kernel sources, if you are using > > 2.6.*. > > Shouldn't kernel-headers be sufficient? > When I've compiled my 2.6.5 kernel, and installed the nvidia drivers, it was ok. But after the make clean in /usr/src/linux (symlink to linux-2.6.5) the installer didn't work. And that was because it couldn't find the version file, which contains the kernel source's version, which exists in the 2.4* kernel's sources by default, but with 2.6* kernel, you must make the kernel to create that version file. This is just my experience. Try it, and you'll find out if it is working. Daniel -- LeVA pgpX8JkY3GbbT.pgp Description: signature
cd ejects on its own
My cdrom has started to eject cds on its own lately. Any ideas on what may be causing it or how to check it? Its a cd writer on a laptop mounted using scsi emulation with kernel 2.4.27-pre1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/cdrom0 and /dev/cdrom*
Using sid, kernel 2.6.6, udev, hotplub, discover. I noticed from the start (new install) I got a dev/hdc /media/cdrom, and 0 and a /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 in fstab. I do not use mount point /media so I changed them to /cdrom and /cdrom1, deleting the entry for cdrom0. I have only /dev/hdc (cdwriter) and /dev/hdd (cdreader). Further: I changed (in fstab) /dev/hdc to mount to /cdrom and /dev/hdd to mount to /cdrom1. This was done to allow players to play audio from the reader and not have to use the writer. I then modified /dev/cdrom to symlink to /dev/hdd and /dev/cdrom1 to symlink to /dev/hdc. I deleted /dev/cdrom0 (symlink to /dev/hdc). This is what I had. /dev: /dev/cdrom->/dev/cdrom0->/dev/hdc /dev/cdrom1->/dev/hdd fstab : /dev/hdc /media/cdrom /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 /dev/hdd /media/cdrom1 This is current. /dev: /dev/cdrom->/dev/hdd /dev/cdrom1->/dev/hdc fstab: /dev/hdc /cdrom1 /dev/hdd /cdrom It worked fine until I rebooted. Then it got weird. in /cdrom appeared a symlink to /cdrom0. /cdrom0 was written to /. /dev/cdrom->/dev/cdrom0->/dev/hdc /dev/cdrom1->/dev/hdd 1: Why was there a cdrom0 to begin with? 2: I think I need to edit /etc/udev.rules to make my changes stick. As far as I can tell this is the line: every thing after the comment line in one line, in case of line wrap. # permissions for IDE CD devices BUS="ide", KERNEL="*[!0-9]", PROGRAM="/bin/cat /proc/ide/%k/media", RESULT="cdrom*", NAME="%k", MODE="0660", GROUP="cdrom" Do I edit this line to make the changes want? If so, do I make two lines, one for each cdrom device? Is the %k value = hdc or hdd? 3. Why was there a cdrom0 to begin with?? I realy want to know this answer! Why is it re-writing an entry in / to make /cdrom0 and a symling in /cdrom ?? Thanks for the help. Google for me did not help. No joy on irc channels. I tried to make this as clear and concise as I could. Damon L. Chesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
Pigeon writes: > And who would provide the money to pay for all the emails that > debian-user sends out? Yahoo Groups would, of course, be exempt. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT - trivial programming language
Hi Richard On Fri, May 21, 2004 at 02:55:35PM -0400, richard lyons wrote: > I'm asking for a bit of advice here. > > I wish to convert a kaddressbook database to abook format saving as > many fields as possible. > > (...) > > But it seems to me most rational to use the opportunity to begin > learning one of the lighter languages that I keep seeing mention of. > So the question is, which do you people recommend? > > The input data will be the cvs dump from kmail, and the output will be > abook native format, which is a series of numbered paragraphs , > reminiscent of an doze .ini file. That is to say, it begins: >[2] >name=name >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] >address=address_1 >address2=address_2 >city=hereville >... > so I assume sed is less than optimal. It seems like a function I > might need again, so it is worth having it in a script. > > (...) > TIA > > -- > richard > I did a similar thing using awk. Actually, it tries to convert a xml addressbook format to csv, but it can be rewritten to do the other way. See http://www.fahnenmueller.privat.t-online.de/abx2csv/ HTH -- Joachim Fahnenmüller # Hi! I'm a .signature virus. Copy me into # your ~/.signature to help me spread! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 08:07:17PM +0200, John L Fjellstad wrote: > David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Now suppose you could demand a payment whenever someone sent you an > > email. It would only need to be a few pennies in all probability. > > Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not be > much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean a meal > for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be limited to those > who can afford it? And who would provide the money to pay for all the emails that debian-user sends out? -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons Get my GPG key here: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F pgp4ik35gDHDN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
David P James wrote: On Sat 22 May 2004 14:07, John L Fjellstad wrote: David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not be much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean a meal for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be limited to those who can afford it? If someone is living such a hand-to-mouth existence it's highly unlikely they'll even have access to the internet. No, he's right. Just because a US penny is a lot of money, doesn't mean they don't have a computer nearby. For those who are somewhat better off, there are a number of things to consider. There are issues to consider for EVERYONE. Those with whom that person is likely to be communicating via email will be under similar circumstances They are? I, and many other people I know value diversity. I sure as hell don't limit my acquaintances by the economic similarity of their lives. Second, it is probably better to think of this system as one of including a deposit which in all likelihood will be returned (if only because the recipient might have to pay access your inbox to reply). So we're talking about exchanging pennies as tokens that represent our goodwill or authenticity? What if the spammer stands to gain 1.2 pennies from sending the spam? The whole idea is just daft. Third, even if you don't get your payment back, email will still be cheaper and more reliable than most of the other options available to you, such as mail and telephone. Snailmail and telephones are becoming obselete, precisely because of the freedom and ease that email currently offers. No system is ever going to be completely accessible to the destitute, Why the hell not? If it isn't accessible now, then it's our duty to make it accessible. Not to give up or say screw it, and make things worse. The current state of email is another example proving the economic concept known as "The Tragedy of the Commons". Any valuable 'free' resource (I say 'free' in the sense of free to the user) will be overused Email isn't overused. It's underused by most, realised by some, but also abused by an entirely different group of people. Solutions that infringe the rights of many to spite a few are ridiculous and misguided. A communication system based on recipient bears the preponderance of costs will always be open to such a problem (iirc, this problem existed with faxes as well). Spam faxing was made illegal, at least in the UK. I'm not aware of major failures in fax use here. As an economist, I look at the billions of dollars, resources and manhours wasted on dealing with spam and think of all the investments, jobs and other more useful spending and activities that didn't take place because of it. As an economist, you're missing the big changes that a few pennies here and there can make. I'm surprised. -- Lee Braiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:21:50AM +1000, Darryl Luff wrote: > On Thu, 20 May 2004 10:35 am, Steve Lamb wrote: Trade offs, no doubt. > - I have a few email addresses. When I send email from home that is work > related, I set my From: address to my work email. When I send > sourceforge-related stuff, I use my sourceforge address. This mail would be > bounced using any of these systems because the mail gets sent from my home > machine. Have to use a smart host for all your sending. Seems like a pain, but now I send all my mail form a single host. > > - Implementation is optional. If I'm sending SPAM, I only need to find one > domain in the world that doesn't have this system implemented, and send all > my spam using From addresses in that domain. Remember that this domain only > has to exist, it doesn't need to even have an email system. The idea is you use it with some blocking list, right? > - And they assume that DNS is secure and un-spoofable. I do sender callouts, too. If someone hijacked DNS that would show up. Or do you mean something else? -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about installing nvidia driver
* LeVA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040523 16:25]: > You must have the compiled(!) kernel sources, if you are using 2.6.*. Shouldn't kernel-headers be sufficient? Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
David P James writes: > As an economist, I look at the billions of dollars, resources and > manhours wasted on dealing with spam and think of all the investments, > jobs and other more useful spending and activities that didn't take place > because of it. The same goes with Microsoft's monopoly rent (or tax as > some call it) of course, but that's a different problem Not true. Dealing with spam consumes resources while Microsoft's monopoly rent redistributes them (albeit inefficiently and unfairly). The problem with "sender pays" schemes is that they create opportunities for monopolies. For example, "private" mailing lists such as the Debian ones are likely to be driven out. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, Wisconsin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which disk device driver
* John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [040523 13:14]: > My conclusion is that the disk device driver is not compiled > or loaded in at the 2.4.26, so I probably need to build a new > kernel. My questions are wether my logic is right and how I can > find out which device driver is being used in the 2.4.18 kernel > for the disk. Did you add the "initrd=..." line as told when installing the kernel? Yours sincerely, Alexander signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
On Sat 22 May 2004 14:07, John L Fjellstad wrote: > David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Now suppose you could demand a payment whenever someone sent you an > > email. It would only need to be a few pennies in all probability. > > Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not be > much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean a > meal for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be limited to > those who can afford it? If someone is living such a hand-to-mouth existence it's highly unlikely they'll even have access to the internet. For those who are somewhat better off, there are a number of things to consider. Those with whom that person is likely to be communicating via email will be under similar circumstances, so they'll set their fees accordingly (and of course most people would exempt those with whom they communicate regularly anyway). Second, it is probably better to think of this system as one of including a deposit which in all likelihood will be returned (if only because the recipient might have to pay access your inbox to reply). Third, even if you don't get your payment back, email will still be cheaper and more reliable than most of the other options available to you, such as mail and telephone. No system is ever going to be completely accessible to the destitute, and I doubt that the current system serves them at all anyway (if anything, if they have access at all, they're likely to find themselves on the same ISP as a spammer and consequently blocked by other ISPs and users using RBLs). The current state of email is another example proving the economic concept known as "The Tragedy of the Commons". Any valuable 'free' resource (I say 'free' in the sense of free to the user) will be overused, in some cases to the point of exhaustion or depletion. A number of people have already commented in this thread that if things get much worse they'll give up on email altogether. A communication system based on recipient bears the preponderance of costs will always be open to such a problem (iirc, this problem existed with faxes as well). As an economist, I look at the billions of dollars, resources and manhours wasted on dealing with spam and think of all the investments, jobs and other more useful spending and activities that didn't take place because of it. The same goes with Microsoft's monopoly rent (or tax as some call it) of course, but that's a different problem :) -- David P James Ottawa, Ontario http://david.jamesnet.ca ICQ: #42891899, Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you've lost something, you had to lose it, not loose it. pgp1UcxWPNT48.pgp Description: signature
Re: postgres ident error
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 19:36:38 -0400, Tom Allison wrote: > I created a user in psql but now I can't log in as that user. > > I get an error > psql: FATAL: IDENT authentication failed for user "dbmail" > > This implies that I need to have all my users for pgsql listed in both > the /etc/passwd file and the postgres database. No. It implies you haven't set PostgreSQL's client authentication settings to ones you like. > Or does postgres just us the /etc/passwd file for all of it's > authentications? PostgreSQL doesn't care about /etc/passwd. The default client authentication settings care about what user is connecting to the database server through a UNIX socket. The relevant documentation is the "Client Authentication" chapter of the PostgreSQL documentation: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/7.4/interactive/client-authentication.html HTH, Ray -- The "free" in "free software" refers to freedom, not price; specifically, that all computer users should have the freedom to study, change, and redistribute the software that they use. RMS in http://weblog.mercurycenter.com/ejournal/stories/storyReader$664 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about installing nvidia driver
2004. május 24. 00:16 dátummal James Ng ezt írta: > Hi all, > > I have upgraded my kernel to 2.6.5, and try to install the > nvidia driver. I have tried to use the nvidia-installera and doing > extracting the driver and then make install, but both methods fail. > > Here is the log file when I install through nvidia-installer. > > nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' > creation time: Sun May 23 21:48:27 2004 > > option status: > license pre-accepted: false > update : false > force update: false > expert : false > uninstall : false > driver info : false > no precompiled interface: true > no ncurses color: false > query latest driver ver : false > OpenGL header files : false > no questions: false > silent : false > XFree86 install prefix : /usr/X11R6 > OpenGL install prefix : /usr > Installer install prefix: /usr > kernel source path : (not specified) > kernel install path : (not specified) > proc mount point: /proc > ui : (not specified) > tmpdir : /tmp > ftp site: ftp://download.nvidia.com > > Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface > -> License accepted. > -> Not probing for precompiled kernel interfaces. > -> Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.5/build' > ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. > ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file >'/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find > suggestions >on fixing installation problems in the README available on the > Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. > >I cannot find a method to solve the problem "ERROR: Unable to > determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename.", any suggestion? > Hi! You must have the compiled(!) kernel sources, if you are using 2.6.*. Daniel -- LeVA pgpZcTdv4qAKJ.pgp Description: signature
Question about installing nvidia driver
Hi all, I have upgraded my kernel to 2.6.5, and try to install the nvidia driver. I have tried to use the nvidia-installera and doing extracting the driver and then make install, but both methods fail. Here is the log file when I install through nvidia-installer. nvidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' creation time: Sun May 23 21:48:27 2004 option status: license pre-accepted: false update : false force update: false expert : false uninstall : false driver info : false no precompiled interface: true no ncurses color: false query latest driver ver : false OpenGL header files : false no questions: false silent : false XFree86 install prefix : /usr/X11R6 OpenGL install prefix : /usr Installer install prefix: /usr kernel source path : (not specified) kernel install path : (not specified) proc mount point: /proc ui : (not specified) tmpdir : /tmp ftp site: ftp://download.nvidia.com Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface -> License accepted. -> Not probing for precompiled kernel interfaces. -> Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.5/build' ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename. ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com. I cannot find a method to solve the problem "ERROR: Unable to determine the NVIDIA kernel module filename.", any suggestion? Regards, James Ng -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN
Hello, I'm switching from 56K dial-up to ISDN. I've just been to the 3Com site to check out the situation as far as ISDN modems are concerned, and came across a couple of advisories that told me I'm employing the wrong O.S./Browser combination to be classified as an acceptable human being, so I was wondering what everybody else is using ISDN-wise other than 3Com, and how it was performing. Grateful for any advice. Regards, David. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which disk device driver
hi ya "john smith" howz jane doe doing ?? On Sun, 23 May 2004, John Smith wrote: > "VFS: Cannot open root device "805" or 08:05 > Please append a correct "root=" boot option > Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:05" it means the kernel you are booting cannot find oyur / partition on /dev/sda5 ls -la /dev/sd* | grep 08 when the lilo or grub prompt comes up you have to tell it manually where / is lcoated lilo# linux-2.4.26 root=/dev/sda5 also make sure the kernel has scsi support for your scsi card or you will need to make a initrd file c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS
* Jens Simmoleit ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > ... you might also check if this has something to do with the > bios settings. AFAIK all modern printers (from 3-5 years back) use > bidirectional settings to communicate. Maybe it's turned off? > > So you can send the signals to the printer but it won't come back with any > answers because it can't??? > This may be it. Wish I could get to the BIOS without shutting down! Thanks for the thought. Nick Croft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Escputil --raw-device and CUPS
* richard lyons ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > H 0.00 > > On Thursday 20 May 2004 03:08, Kristian Niemi wrote: > > Nick Croft wrote: > [...] > > > $ escuptil -i -r /dev/lp0 is > > > 'Cannot parse output from printer'. > [...] > > > I wonder if it could be as easy as telling escputil that you have a > > new model of epson printer (`new' means newer than Stylus Color 740 > > ...), i.e. add "--new" or "-u" to the command. I get a similar > > error as you do if I leave that out. > > Wow! I had given up on escputil with my Epson Stylus C62. That does > it. Thanks, Kristian. > It hasn't helped me (yet). I've had a suggestion that I need to go through the usb cable and not use the parallel port. Still every bit of feedback and communication helps. > You learn something good every day on debian-user. > > -- > richard > You certainly do. I've submitted this same question on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list and got no response. Some lists seem to narrow down the field of enquiry without actually writing the limits down for the newcomer.. Nick Croft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Livres anciens : Nouveautés et informations
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Which disk device driver
Hi All, installed a new 3.0r2 box with (obviously) 2.4.18-bf2.4. Tried to upgrade to 2.4.26 by installing the kernel-image but booting with it aborts with "VFS: Cannot open root device "805" or 08:05 Please append a correct "root=" boot option Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:05" The root= option in /etc/lilo.conf is identical between both kernel versions, and since 2.4.18 boots, is obviously correct. My conclusion is that the disk device driver is not compiled or loaded in at the 2.4.26, so I probably need to build a new kernel. My questions are wether my logic is right and how I can find out which device driver is being used in the 2.4.18 kernel for the disk. Sincerely, Jan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: D-I to SATA (hda) but move to 2.6 kernel (sda) fails
Graham Williams wrote: The current beta 4 debian-installer will install to SATA okay, but treats the disk as IDE (/dev/hda). In moving to kernel 2.6.6 from sid this uses SCSI (/dev/sda) and the reboot fails. Is there a migration path one needs to follow? You have to edit and modify /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf or /boot/grub.menu.lst. Regards, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shuttle WLAN Dongle
Hello list! I've been thinking about buying a shuttle barebone PC, namely the XPC SB62G2 [1]. It features two (wired) LAN ports which is important to me. Additionally i need to have built-in WLAN. Shuttle offers a USB WLAN Kit [2] but beside the fact that it is connected via USB i haven't been able to find out if there is a linux driver for it. Does anyone here know if this "dongle" will work under Linux (in hostap mode)? Google wasn't very helpful this time :) [1] http://www1.alternate.de/cgi-bin/frameset.pm?js=1 (german) [2] http://de.shuttle.com/pn11.htm#w_lanpn11 (german) TIA & HAND PS: The PCI x AGP ports shall remain unused for now. -- Matthias Hentges Cologne / Germany [www.hentges.net] -> PGP welcome, HTML tolerated ICQ: 97 26 97 4 -> No files, no URL's My OS: Debian SID. Geek by Nature, Linux by Choice -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/md0 and udev
Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Whats the udev email list location? > Is there any irc channel for udev, by udev developers, or experts? http://linux-hotplug.sourceforge.net (I know it says hotplug, but udev seems to share it with hotplug for this list). I really don't know any IRC channels. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Samba and network printing
Please don't cc me. Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > joining in the middle ... lets see > > am assuming, "root" on the linux box can print to the printer connected > to it Just to clarify again. I'm using CUPS and Samba. I have no problem printing from either Windows or Linux. My problem is installing the Windows printer driver using the rpcclient facility, as shown the in Samba Printer HOWTO. -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/md0 and udev
Richard Weil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sorry to be stupid, put I can't find much > documentation on the udev/links.conf file. Would I add > the following to links.conf in order to create > /dev/md0? > > M md0b 9 0 Probably M md > I'm not sure of the distinction between L, D, M in the > file, though I assume L is link, D is directory and M > is some sort of make. L creates a link D creates a directory M creates device nodes using /sbin/MAKEDEV Check /etc/init.d/udev for more info. Especially the make_extra_nodes() function. It's been awhile since I synced up with the debian packages (I'm using the udev originals), so I'm not sure how much has changed (if any). -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Yahoo's Antispam proposal
David P James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now suppose you could demand a payment whenever someone sent you an > email. It would only need to be a few pennies in all probability. Not everybody has the same buying power. A few pennies might not be much for someone living in the Western World, but it might mean a meal for someone from Somalia or Vietnam. Should email be limited to those who can afford it? -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Shell tricks: I'll kill you later
Karsten M. Self wrote:
> while sleep 600
> do
> ps aux | awk '/[w]hois/ {print $2}' | ( sleep 30; xargs kill )
> done
Clever. I like the concept. But I don't like the ps side of the
implementation. The format is slightly different depending upon the
state of the process. Also the search can match too much and kill
similarly named processes.
Personally I am more familiar with the SysV format rather than the BSD
format. 'ps aux' is roughly equivalent to 'ps -ef'. But you don't
generally want the full output output for what you are doing. Is
there an equivalent to SysV 'ps -e' in the BSD format? In any case
that is a better format for looking for processes by name. Then we
can make the awk test a little more precise.
ps -e | awk '$NF == "whois" {print $1}' | ( sleep 30; xargs kill )
That avoids the collateral damage from similarly named processes. It
avoids needing the [w]hois workaround nicely. But a process which is
named exactly the same can still be killed. I assume you are running
this process as root and killing user processes would be undesireable.
Of course if it is run as a unique non-root user then the system
permissions will prevent it from actually killing other proceses. But
we can avoid it even trying. Let's select only our own processes with
'ps -u userid'
ps -u root | awk '$NF == "whois" {print $1}' | ( sleep 30; xargs kill )
That avoids killing other user's processes. It uses only standard
utilities which is rather nice. But there is a procps utility which
can shorten things up a little.
pgrep -xu root whois | ( sleep 30; xargs kill )
Personally I would probably leave the ps | awk in any script that I
would write. It uses only standard utilities and would work on other
systems without change. But on the commandline knowing it was
available I would probably use the pgrep since it is simpler to type.
Bob
P.S. I really enjoyed your title.
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Re: Ctrl+Alt+F1 not working?
On 22 May 2004, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2004-05-21 10:03:43 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: > > I started a thread on this a few weeks ago. The consensus was that if > > you are using xmodmap the above command doesn't work. I have to live > > with it at present. > > Or you can add > > Option "XkbDisable""true" > > to your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file (I saw that in the French Debian > mailing-list IIRC, and this works). > > -- Excellent tip - thank you very much! Anthony -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]|| http://www.acampbell.org.uk using Linux GNU/Debian || for book reviews, electronic Windows-free zone || books and skeptical articles -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: postgres installation question
On Sat, 2004-05-22 at 22:19, Tom Allison wrote: > I'm doing a -testing installation of postgresql. > > I have the user postgres in the passwd file. > I don't know what the password is. > > I'm wondering: > > Should I know it? I can always su posgres from root, but I don't always > want to have to go root first. Is there is any problems with having a > real password for login (from say SSH for admin purposes). It doesn't have a password, unless and until root gives it one. There is no harm in giving it a password, but the package installation isn't going to do that, since "su postgres" will do just as well and let you know which real person is doing things. In addition, if you create a PostgreSQL user to match your sytem login and make that user a PostgreQSL administrator (i.e, able to create users as well as databases) there is almost nothing that you need to log on as `postgres' to do. -- Oliver Elphick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/A54310EA 92C8 39E7 280E 3631 3F0E 1EC0 5664 7A2F A543 10EA "But where shall wisdom be found? And where is the place of understanding? It cannot be gotten for gold, neither shall silver be weighed for the price thereof. Whence then cometh wisdom? and where is the place of understanding? ...Behold the fear of the Lord, that is wisdom; and to depart from evil is understanding." Job 12,15,20,28 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
