Re: Is Linux Unix?

[Ryo Furue]

Roel Schroeven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
[...]
> > It's interesting that some of the new features are (or seem to me to be)
> > mainly for numerical computations, such as the "restrict" keyword and
> > the builtin complex numbers.
> 
> Possibly, but isn't this feature's usefullness in numerical computations 
> quite limited if you're restricted to the size of the stack?

That's a good question.  In fact, most modern Unix/Linux systems allow
you to use as large stacksize as you like, roughly speaking.  Although
the default stakesize limit is often set to a very low value, say, 2MB,
each user can raise the limit, unless the system administrator (root)
prohibits it.  So, no.  That feature in question is very useful.

Some people believe that the stacksize limit should be kept low
(in other words, that you shouldn't use much stack), but, as far as
I know, nobody seems to be able to give a convincing argument for that
position.  I suspect that the posision is just an inertia, a remnant
of an old habit.  But, I'm ready to be convinced otherwise if somebody
has a good argument.

Cheers,
Ryo


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Re: Restricting a shell user to his home dir ?

[Simon Kitching]

On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 18:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am learning a lot from this mailing list :). I have few shell users, i want to 
> restrict their shell login to their home directories.
> 
> Like they should not be able to move around in the system and see other user's home 
> directories.
> 
> Any suggestions would be usefull.

Hi,

When you installed debian, you should have been asked "should home dirs
be readable by others". If you answered no, then when new users are
created, their home dir will automatically have permissions of
rwx--, which means that no other user on the system can see their
files. I believe this is even the default setting. [NB: perms of
rwxr-x--- are also secure, provided each user has their own personal
group setting].

If you answered "yes, home dirs should be readable by others" then when
you added users, their home dir will be rwxr-xr-x, which allows others
to see their files. This is often the default for "traditional" unix
systems, like AIX. In this case, users (or you) can use chmod to make
the home dirs unreadable.

But generally, users *do* need access to the rest of the system. They
need access to /bin, /usr/bin, etc or they won't be able to run even
simple tasks like "cp", "more", etc. And unix is designed to allow users
to access system dirs without any harm occurring. Note that users will
be able to see that dirs /home/fred, /home/sue etc exist but won't be
able to see anything in them if the permissions on those dirs are set
appropriately.

If you're really paranoid (and this can sometimes be healthy) you can
look into something called "chroot", which means that when users log in,
they get a special restricted view of the local filesystem. But this is
a major pain to set up and administer. Only for the brave...

Regards,

Simon



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Re: Restricting a shell user to his home dir ?

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On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am learning a lot from this mailing list :). I have few shell users, i want to 
> restrict their shell login to their home directories.
>
> Like they should not be able to move around in the system and see other user's home 
> directories.
>
> Any suggestions would be usefull.
>
> Regards
> Azher
>
I hope this might do the work.
# chmod o-r /home
#

If you want this by default, you'll have to set umask.
Also have a look at /etc/adduser.conf file

HTH

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Debian Install problem

[Raymond Johnson]

Greetings!

 

I'm trying to install debian linux but I'm having
trouble.  I ran jigdo and downloaded an ISO file successfully and burned a
cd successfully from the ISO.  After creating the partitions I get to
"INSTALL KERNEL AND DRIVER MODULES" but it can't seem to find a
particular file, "images-1.44/rescue.bin"  After checking the
contents of the CD, I find "rescue.bin" in the "boot"
directory.  So I tried this again but by manually entering the directory
where this file is found and I get the error message "cannot find file /instmnt/boot/images-1.44/rescue.bin"

 

Am I doing something wrong or is this some sort of
error?  I can see way to access this file since the directory name is
included in the filename, a directory which doesn't exist.

 

Is the ISO bad?  If so, can you recommend one that you
know for certain works?

 

Thanks in advance,

 

xray

Restricting a shell user to his home dir ?

[debi]

Hi,

I am learning a lot from this mailing list :). I have few shell users, i want to 
restrict their shell login to their home directories.

Like they should not be able to move around in the system and see other user's home 
directories.

Any suggestions would be usefull.

Regards
Azher



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Re: how to manage services ?

[debi]

Thnx for the help/suggestions.

Azher


On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:33:41PM +1000, Paul Gear wrote:
> Paul Johnson wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > 
> >>I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc. In
> >>RedHat there is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top services
> >>for certain run levels or completely stop it from running.
> > 
> > 
> > Well, first off, you only have installed an extremely minimal base
> > system plus anything you've chosen to install.  This isn't Hed Rat,
> > Debian doesn't install a bunch of useless stuff by default.
> 
> That is *SO* not the point.  chkconfig is a simple way to turn on and
> off at boot time the important services that you explicitly want to have
> on.  It also provides a convenient overview of which ones are on and off
> in which levels.
> 
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Re: Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?

[Scarletdown]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 22:29, Roy Pluschke wrote:
>
> then configure with   ./configure --with-qt3-dir=/usr/share/qt3

And that gave the same error as before:

checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not 
found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.

Here's what config.log shows

configure:5666: checking for Qt
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt/include/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt2/include/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt2/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt/include/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/share/qt/qstyle.h
configure: 5730: /usr/local/qt/include/qstyle.h
taking that
tried NO
configure:5840: rm -rf SunWS_cache; c++ -o conftest -O2 -fno-exceptions 
-fno-check-new -I/usr/local/qt/include -I/usr/X11R6/include  
-D_REENTRANT  -L/usr/share/qt/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib   conftest.C  -lqt 
-lpng -lz -lm -ljpeg  -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE  -lresolv 1>&5
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lqt
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
configure: failed program was:
#include "confdefs.h"
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#include 
#if ! (QT_VERSION >= 222)
#error 1
#endif

int main() {
QStringList *t = new QStringList();
QIconView iv(0);
iv.setWordWrapIconText(false);
QString s;
s.setLatin1("Elvis is alive", 14);
int magnolia = QEvent::Speech; /* new in 2.2 beta2 */
return 0;
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Re: Home button not working in shell

[Pasi Oja-Nisula]

On Thu, Aug 05, 2004 at 01:54:55AM +0200, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
> 
> How do I make the Home button work as expected? 

Try adding the line

*xterm*appcursorDefault: true

to /etc/X11/app-defaults/XTerm (or XTerm-color).

Pasi


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test msg, please ignore

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

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Re: Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?

[Roy Pluschke]

On August 4, 2004 21:41, Scarletdown wrote:


>
> export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt, I went ahead and did a
>
> export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt and tried .configure again, but got the same
> error.  I also tried export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3, and again got the
> same error when I did ./configure even though qt and qt3 are actually
> there.
>
> So, what else needs to be done for knewspost to install correctly?

type ./configure --help

It should give options to configure.  To the one for the qt libs give the path 
to the qt libs (on sid its /usr/share/qt3).  I'm sorry I can't remember the 
exact name of the option as I'm not on my home computer.

then configure with   ./configure --with-qt3-dir=/usr/share/qt3

(note the "--with-qt3-dir" is just a guess) 

I've found that I had to do this to compile any qt app on debian since we tend 
to put the qt libs in different places than other distributions

Hope this helps,
RJP


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Re: dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[John Summerfield]

Steve Lamb wrote:
Steven Jones wrote:
 

At present our servers bounce with "no valid user" is this the best tactic?
   

   Depends on what you mean by "bounce".
 

or is it simply better to stop such bounce msgs? while polite, spammers are
taking the p*ss
   

   If you mean your server gives a 5xx at SMTP time, that's fine.  If it is
accepting the message at SMTP time (2xx) and then generating a bounce it
attempts to deliver, that's bad.
 

Even at SMTP times there can be probs. I con't control my secondary 
MXes, and when I get mail from them it's too late to generate bounce 
msgs at the right person.
echo 'mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

' | nc sue.demo.lan 25
If this tries to deliver directly to sue then it gets bounced, and the 
sender is informed. If it delivers to a relay for sue, it's accepted and 
then sue boounces it and [EMAIL PROTECTED] com (if he exists) gets the 
bounce message.


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Re: dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[John Summerfield]

Steve Lamb wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
 

I've not yet explored how to do it, but I quite like the idea of
blocking connexions from anyone trying my spambait addresses below (yes,
they are turning up in my logs).
   

   For a while I thought about blocking connections from dictionary spammers
and spammers that constantly hit my box.  But then I decided to go a different
route.  My machine processes maybe 500 legitimate messages a day.  The chances
of my inbound connections (set to 10) being all hit at the same time is pretty
darn remote.  Even so they won't be tied up for all that long.  So instead I
just had my machine consider, carefully, any reject message it gives on
certain behaviors.  Send to a bad address at my machine, it'll check for the
address and let you know what it finds in 20s.  After 20 of them it'll decide
you dunno whom you're looking for and tell ya to shoo. 20 * 20s = 400s or just
shy of 7 minutes.  If a dictionary spammer wants to tie up one of his
connections for 7 minutes to attempt 20 bad addresses at my machine who am I
to discourage him?  :D
 

<->
There is at least one tarpit if you want to get serious about it.
Oh, if you want to tie these people up even longer, dynamically write a 
firewall rule to deflect it to a different port where you can consider 
these matters with even greater care.

I'd expire the rule after a time though. If the IP changes hands, no 
point in punishing the new owner, and if the same offender returns from 
the same IP, well consider his application afresh.

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Re: dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[Steve Lamb]

John Summerfield wrote:
> I've not yet explored how to do it, but I quite like the idea of
> blocking connexions from anyone trying my spambait addresses below (yes,
> they are turning up in my logs).

For a while I thought about blocking connections from dictionary spammers
and spammers that constantly hit my box.  But then I decided to go a different
route.  My machine processes maybe 500 legitimate messages a day.  The chances
of my inbound connections (set to 10) being all hit at the same time is pretty
darn remote.  Even so they won't be tied up for all that long.  So instead I
just had my machine consider, carefully, any reject message it gives on
certain behaviors.  Send to a bad address at my machine, it'll check for the
address and let you know what it finds in 20s.  After 20 of them it'll decide
you dunno whom you're looking for and tell ya to shoo. 20 * 20s = 400s or just
shy of 7 minutes.  If a dictionary spammer wants to tie up one of his
connections for 7 minutes to attempt 20 bad addresses at my machine who am I
to discourage him?  :D

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Re: Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?

[Scarletdown]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 21:20, Travis Crump wrote:

> You already have the qt libraries properly installed, after all
> everything in KDE depends on them so how could you not[if you have
> KDE installed].  They are called libqt3c102-mt.  libqt3 is the
> gcc2.95 version which isn't what you want.  Take a step back, a
> better question is why are you having problems installing knewspost? 
> Where did you get it[since it doesn't appear to be in debian]?  What
> form is it in[source, rpm, deb]? What have you tried? What led you to
> the erroneous conclusion that you wanted to install libqt3?  You
> appear to be running a sarge/sid mix, so take stable out of your
> sources.list at which point you will see that libqt3 doesn't even
> exist anymore.

I downloaded knewspost from here:

http://www.semeniuk.net/linux/knewspost/

There's only 2 download and install possibilities, tarball and rpm.  I 
went with the tarball.  After unpacking the archive, I tried to install 
it with ./configure.  The procedure crapped out when it failed to find 
the Qt libraries.  Here is the error message:

checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (libraries) not 
found. Please check your installation!
For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.

After a short Google search, I found this message thread, which is 
essentially the same problem...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/15376

So following this advice...

export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt, I went ahead and did a

export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt and tried .configure again, but got the same 
error.  I also tried export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3, and again got the 
same error when I did ./configure even though qt and qt3 are actually 
there.

So, what else needs to be done for knewspost to install correctly?




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Re: dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[Steve Lamb]

Steven Jones wrote:
> At present our servers bounce with "no valid user" is this the best tactic?

Depends on what you mean by "bounce".

> or is it simply better to stop such bounce msgs? while polite, spammers are
> taking the p*ss

If you mean your server gives a 5xx at SMTP time, that's fine.  If it is
accepting the message at SMTP time (2xx) and then generating a bounce it
attempts to deliver, that's bad.

Let the remote side generate and attempt to deliver the bounce.  There are
three malicious cases for the remote side and here's why you want to just
reject at SMTP and let them handle the bounce.

a: It's a virus.  Chances are the virus isn't going to generate a bounce when
you 5xx it.  So no bounce is generated.
b: It's a spammer or a spammer via proxy.  Again, chances are they aren't
going to generate a bounce when you 5xx it.
c: It's an open relay.  In which case their system generating a few dozen
thousand undeliverable bounces in a short amount of time should clue them in
that they have a problem they need to fix ASAP.  If not the few bounces which
hit legit people should generate some nice nastygrams to postmaster which
should clue them in.  Either way the bounces they generate is a symptom of
their problem and of little concern of yours.

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Re: dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[John Summerfield]

Steven Jones wrote:
Our site is being constantly "hit" by spammers using bruteforce tactics looking for 
valid users.
At present our servers bounce with "no valid user" is this the best tactic? or is it simply better to stop such bounce msgs? while polite, spammers are taking the p*ss
 


I've not yet explored how to do it, but I quite like the idea of 
blocking connexions from anyone trying my spambait addresses below (yes, 
they are turning up in my logs).

For that to be properly effective it also needs to be done on all your 
MXes too.

I don't see that it's important to block then for long - maybe an hour 
or so, but experience might show otherwise.

Ditto these folk:
Aug  5 12:28:01 fw kernel: Shorewall:net2all:DROP:IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= 
SRC=219.150.118.21 DST=220.235.62.65 LEN=1489 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xE0 TTL=103 
ID=31886 PROTO=UDP SPT=25018 DPT=1026 LEN=1469

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Re: Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?

[Travis Crump]

Scarletdown wrote:
I'm needing to get the qt libraries properly installed so I can install 
knewspost.  In KPackage, I selected libqt3 and libqt3-mt, then clicked 
Install Marked.  Thankfully, I also selected "Test" as well, because 
this is the output that I got from the test install...

You already have the qt libraries properly installed, after all 
everything in KDE depends on them so how could you not[if you have KDE 
installed].  They are called libqt3c102-mt.  libqt3 is the gcc2.95 
version which isn't what you want.  Take a step back, a better question 
is why are you having problems installing knewspost?  Where did you get 
it[since it doesn't appear to be in debian]?  What form is it in[source, 
rpm, deb]? What have you tried? What led you to the erroneous conclusion 
that you wanted to install libqt3?  You appear to be running a sarge/sid 
mix, so take stable out of your sources.list at which point you will see 
that libqt3 doesn't even exist anymore.


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Re: Getting photos from USB compactFlash into linux

[J F]

At the end of this transcript I found dmesg error:
usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using address 20
usb 3-2: device not accepting address 20, error -71

I am using hotplug package not usbmgr package.
I have read somewhere that the USB device not accepting new address 
 means that the host-controller doesn't get an interrupt, and that this 
 often is because of ACPI. 
Still not working.  Will try some more tomorrow.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:# fdisk -l /dev/sda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:# fdisk -l /dev/sd*
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:#  mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /usb
mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields#  mount -t vfat /dev/sda /usb
mount: /dev/sda is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# ls -l /usb
total 0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields#  mount -t vfat /dev/sda2 /usb
mount: /dev/sda2 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# mount -t vfat /dev/sda3 /usb
mount: /dev/sda3 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# mount -t vfat /dev/sda4 /usb
mount: /dev/sda4 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /usb
mount: /dev/sda5 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields#  mount -t vfat /dev/sda6 /usb
mount: /dev/sda6 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields#  mount -t vfat /dev/sda7 /usb
mount: /dev/sda7 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# mount -t vfat /dev/sda8 /usb
mount: /dev/sda8 is not a valid block device
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# fdisk /dev/sda

Unable to open /dev/sda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# fdisk /dev/sdb

Unable to open /dev/sdb
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# fdisk /dev/sdc

Unable to open /dev/sdc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/jfields# ls -l /dev/sd*
brw-rw  1 root disk 8,   0 Apr 14  2001 /dev/sda
...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dmesg
Linux version 2.6.7-1-k7 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.4 (Debian 1:3.3.4-2)) #1 
Thu Jul 8 06:45:35 EDT 2004
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
 BIOS-e820:  - 0009fc00 (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 0009fc00 - 000a (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: 0010 - 1fff (usable)
 BIOS-e820: 1fff - 1fff8000 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 1fff8000 - 2000 (ACPI NVS)
 BIOS-e820: fec0 - fec01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fee0 - fee01000 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: ffee - fff0 (reserved)
 BIOS-e820: fffc - 0001 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
511MB LOWMEM available.
On node 0 totalpages: 131056
  DMA zone: 4096 pages, LIFO batch:1
  Normal zone: 126960 pages, LIFO batch:16
  HighMem zone: 0 pages, LIFO batch:1
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI   ) @ 0x000fa2c0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 AMIINT SiS735XX 0x1000 MSFT 0x010b) @ 0x1fff
ACPI: FADT (v001 AMIINT SiS735XX 0x1000 MSFT 0x010b) @ 0x1fff0030
ACPI: DSDT (v001SiS  735 0x0100 MSFT 0x010d) @ 0x
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order 11: 16384 bytes)
Detected 1659.452 MHz processor.
Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Memory: 512440k/524224k available (1500k kernel code, 11020k reserved, 668k data, 148k 
init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay loop... 3301.37 BogoMIPS
Security Scaffold v1.0.0 initialized
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes)
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff  
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff  
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 256K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff  0020
Intel machine check architecture supported.
Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0.
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2000+ stepping 00
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
enabled ExtINT on CPU#0
ESR value before enabling vector: 
ESR value after enabling vector: 
Using local APIC timer interrupts.
calibrating APIC timer ...
. CPU clock speed is 1659.0406 MHz.
. host bus clock speed is 265.0504 MHz.
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (ungzip failed); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 4288k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfdb01, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
ACPI: Subsy

dealing with spam ~ advice needed

[Steven Jones]

Our site is being constantly "hit" by spammers using bruteforce tactics looking for 
valid users.

At present our servers bounce with "no valid user" is this the best tactic? or is it 
simply better to stop such bounce msgs? while polite, spammers are taking the p*ss

We are running postfix and spam assassin to tag spam, it is effective in taggingI 
am just considering my options in configuring postfix to reject selected connections 
like my favourite optonline.net. 

I cannot see that an IPTABLES block is effective, if only because of the shear number 
of IPs optonline is using (as an example)and this is just one example, so a DNS 
name lookup is out 

suggestions please?

regards

S

Re: Home button not working in shell

[Chris Metzler]

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 02:28:10 +0200
Jacob Friis Larsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >> How do I make the Home button work as expected?
> > 
> > Depress it as normal.
> 
> Could you be more specific?

Not unless you can.

-c

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Re: floppy led don't turn off when booting on 2.6

[Jules Dubois]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 10:40:01 +0200, castet.matthieu wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> When booting 2.6.7 linux kernel on PC, if the timeout of the boot loader
> is very short (less than 1 second: the floppy led turn on by the bios
> trying to boot on floppy don’t had the time to turn off) the floppy led
> never turn off, but if I wait in the boot loader a little the led turn
> off.
> 
> Have you got any idea about this problem?

No, not exactly.  However, here are some lines from my /boot/grub/menu.lst

  ## timeout sec
  # Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the 
  # default entry (normally the first entry defined).
  timeout 10

Perhaps you could check your configuration file and perhaps (again)
adjusting the timeout would help.


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Re: Debian Unstable not updating?

[Jules Dubois]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 21:38:20 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:

> Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> And check /etc/apt/preferences for the "Pin-Priority" of the
>> distributions.  I had the same problem for months.  About two weeks
>> ago, and a certain Martin J. Hillyer suggested this.
> 
> I don't think that is the problem.  Stable doesn't update frequently and
> unstable hasn't had anything new in a couple days.

With stable and unstable in my sources.list, I've been seeing more than 10
megabytes every day since I changed the pin priorities.  The day I made
unstable the highest priority, it informed me of over 350 MB of stuff to
download with my 56kb mdem.

Today alone, it's about 65 MB.  Could this be because I have much more
junk installed than you do?


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Re: Home button not working in shell

[dircha]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
How do I make the Home button work as expected?
Supposing you are referring to Bash, I'm going to guess the expected
behavior when depressing the "Home" key is for the cursor to move to the
first character of the editing (not necessarily visual) line.
The simplest solution might be to become accustomed to using:
-A: move cursor to first character
-E: move cursor to end character
Then see section Readline Command Names of the Bash manual (man bash)
for additional default key bindings. They are similar to Emacs key 
bindings. Although you can also configure Bash to provide line editing 
similar to how vi would.

But to actually fix the issue with the Home key, given your email
host name, this may be a key map issue. I think we would first need to
know whether you are using a shell through an X terminal emulator, or on
the virtual console.
If the former, I would look to solve the issue with 'xmodmap'. If the
later, I would look to 'loadkeys'. Although there may be better or more
appropriate solutions.
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Re: Debian spam stats [subject change]

[David P James]

On Wed 4 August 2004 22:16, John Summerfield wrote:
> David P James wrote:
> >On Wed 4 August 2004 04:47, John Summerfield wrote:
> >>Debian is quite friendly towards spammers.
> >
> >Not true - more than 95% of the mail received by Debian list servers
> > is dropped:
>
> Find everyones' email address on any Debian archive. How friendly is
> that? Debian doesn't have to carrythe load, every Debian user who's
> game enough to use a Debian list has to learn to cope.

Ah, a different interpretation of "friendly toward spammers". I thought
you were speaking of spam on the lists themselves since that's what
precipitated this topic. Yes, you're quite right. Debian could do
something similar to what KDE does in its archives.

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Re: you may be even more embarassed if you can't deliver

[Paul Gear]

Chris Metzler wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 18:28:53 +1000
> Paul Gear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Is this list not spamassassined?
> 
> 
> Of course it is.  The listmasters have posted here before, telling
> us that something like 95% of all email incoming to their lists is
> being rejected as spam.  You see 5-10 spam emails a day getting
> through onto this list and wonder if the list servers run some sort
> of spam blocking; you're not seeing the 5700 emails a day to this list
> that are being successfully blocked.  Personally, I think only 5-10
> getting through a day is pretty damned good.

Fair enough.  I guess most lists i visit are not such high-volume.
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Re: email questions...

[Eric Gaumer]

On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 20:07, Mario Flores wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> After some testing, I found that I can send email to some addresses and 
> cannot do it for others. I get the following error:
> 
> SMTP<< 550 You are not allowed to send mail:sc001pub.verizon.net
> 
> this was when I tried to send a message to my email account with my ISP. 
> I was able to send msg to a hotmail account. I was not able to send msg 
> to other accounts (other domains) but did not get the error above either 
> (maybe the msg gets filtered based on some criteria like fake dns name?).
> 
> My big questions is why can't I send this email from my local account 
> and I can send it via Mozilla (using my ISP account). I read somewhere 
> that POP is for retrieving email from the server and smtp is used for 
> outbound messages (from the email agent like mozilla to the mail server).
> 

Most well configured mail servers will not accept mail from dynamic IP's
and/or hosts with no MX record. If you are trying to send mail out using
your own mail server then you most likely have it misconfigured. 


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Thunderbird and Firefox

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,
is there a Debian way to make Thunderbird the
`default mailer of the system' for Firefox ?
Thanks in advance,
Jerome
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Re: email questions...

[Mario Flores]

Hi:
After some testing, I found that I can send email to some addresses and 
cannot do it for others. I get the following error:

SMTP<< 550 You are not allowed to send mail:sc001pub.verizon.net
this was when I tried to send a message to my email account with my ISP. 
I was able to send msg to a hotmail account. I was not able to send msg 
to other accounts (other domains) but did not get the error above either 
(maybe the msg gets filtered based on some criteria like fake dns name?).

My big questions is why can't I send this email from my local account 
and I can send it via Mozilla (using my ISP account). I read somewhere 
that POP is for retrieving email from the server and smtp is used for 
outbound messages (from the email agent like mozilla to the mail server).

Any ideas?
Thanks,
Mario.
John Summerfield wrote:
Mario Flores wrote:
Hi:
I can read my ISP's email using mozilla (POP mail account), I can 
read my local email using 'mail' (with exim being the mta). But I 
cannot send emial from my local mail account to the rest of the world 
or to my ISP's email address. How can I do that?

For me, it "just works." You need to do a little exploration and find 
messages that show what's wrong. Log files in /var/log are good places 
to look.

In addition, how can I send emial via a script? That is to set up a 
cron job to send an email locally or to someone on the internet 
(using my ISP email account since I don't have a valid DNS name). I 
tried 'mail' but could not get a message to be sent with a single 
command line.

Attend to the first part first. Then the mail command should work much 
like this:
ls -lR | mail -s "I have these files" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have read that fetchmail can retrieve POP mail, but I could not 
find a program that does the opposite without being interactive.

You should be able to use the sendmail directly if the mail command as 
above is unsatisfactory. Once you have the first problem sorted out.

If you want a cheap domain name, go see www.dyndns.org and get one of 
their free subdomains.




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Re: Home button not working in shell

[Kent West]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
How do I make the Home button work as expected?

Depress it as normal.

Could you be more specific?

I believe Stephen, by providing almost no information, is pointing out 
that you have provided almost no information.

Are we to assume this is in KDE? Gnome? Something else?
What "Home" button are you referring to? Something on the desktop? 
Something in a menu? Something in an Open File dialog box? Something in 
an esoteric application that only four people in the world have ever 
heard about?

What do you mean by "as expected"? How is it not behaving as expected? 
Is it just not responding to a click at all? Is it popping up a digital 
avatar of John Candy doing a strip tease on your screen? Is it causing 
the computer to shut down and power off?

Your subject line mentions a home button in shell. I know of no shell 
that has a home button.

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Re: Horde2 : IMAP failed

[cep welly]

Joost De Cock wrote:

  
Create a info.php file with the following in it:



Put it somewhere in a web browsable directory and load the page. It should 
give you an overview of lots of stuff including what extentions are loaded 
into PHP.
Check to see if IMAP is there. If it isn't check in this file:

/etc/php4/apache/php.ini

for this line:
extension=imap.so

It should be at the bottom.

joost

  

http://localhost/phpinfo
I got imap on loaded modules list
Checking php.ini file . what ? well, there's no
'extension=imap.so'
( gee..) For all this time I think it was therebut it's not   :-[ 
So adding that line and reloading apache make it works nicely
Thanks Joost...


cheers,

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Why Does KPackage Want to Pretty Much Wipe Out My System?

[Scarletdown]

I'm needing to get the qt libraries properly installed so I can install 
knewspost.  In KPackage, I selected libqt3 and libqt3-mt, then clicked 
Install Marked.  Thankfully, I also selected "Test" as well, because 
this is the output that I got from the test install...


Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  k3b-i18n kdeartwork-misc libiodbc2 libjasper-1.701-1 libpng3 libpq3
Suggested packages:
  libjasper-runtime postgresql-client libqt3-psql libqt3-odbc 
libqt3-mt-psql
  libqt3-mt-odbc
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  ark arts artsbuilder cervisia digikam doxygen-gui eyesapplet flashkard
  guarddog gwenview icemc k3b k3blibs kaddressbook kalarm kalzium 
kamera kandy
  kappfinder karbon karm kasteroids kate kate-plugins katomic kaudiocreator
  kbabel kbackgammon kbattleship kblackbox kbounce kbugbuster kcachegrind
  kcalc kcd kcdlabel kcharselect kchart kcoloredit kcontrol kcpuload kcron
  kdat kdbg kde-core kde-i18n-de kde-i18n-engb kde-i18n-es kde-i18n-fr
  kdeaddons kdeaddons-kfile-plugins kdeadmin-kfile-plugins kdeartwork
  kdeartwork-style kdeartwork-theme-window kdebase kdebase-bin
  kdebase-kio-plugins kdegraphics kdegraphics-dev kdegraphics-kfile-plugins
  kdelibs kdelibs-bin kdelibs4 kdemultimedia-kfile-plugins
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork kdenetwork-kfile-plugins kdepasswd
  kdepim kdepim-kfile-plugins kdepim-libs kdeprint kdesdk-kfile-plugins
  kdesdk-misc kdesktop kdessh kdeutils kdevelop kdevelop-data kdf kdict
  kdirstat kdm kdvi kedit keduca kenolaba keybled kfax kfind kfloppy kfocus
  kformula kfouleggs kgeo kget kghostview kgpg kgpgcertmanager khangman
  khelpcenter khexedit kicker kicker-applets kiconedit kit kivio kjots
  kjumpingcube klaptopdaemon klickety klines klipper kmahjongg kmail 
kmailcvt
  kmenuedit kmessedwords kmidi kmines kmix kmoon kmplot kmrml kmymoney2
  knetload knewsticker knode knotes koffice koffice-data koffice-libs kolf
  komba2 kommander kompare konq-plugins konqueror konqueror-nsplugins 
konquest
  konsole kooka kopete korganizer korn koshell kover kpackage kpager kpaint
  kpat kpercentage kpersonalizer kpf kphone kpilot kpoker kpovmodeler kppp
  kpresenter kprof krdc krec kreversi krfb krita kruler krusader ksame kscd
  kscreensaver kshisen ksim ksirc ksirtet ksmiletris ksmserver ksnake
  ksnapshot ksokoban kspaceduel ksplash kspread kstars ksync ksysguard 
ksysv
  ktalkd ktimer ktip ktouch ktron ktuberling ktux kugar kuickshow kuser
  kverbos kview kviewshell kvoctrain kwave kweather kwifimanager kwin kwin4
  kword kworldclock kxconfig kxmleditor kxmlrpc libarts1 libarts1-audiofile
  libarts1-dev libarts1-mpeglib libarts1-xine libk3bcore1 libkdeedu1
  libkdegames1 libkdenetwork2 libkdenetwork2-dev libkonq4 libkregexpeditor
  libkscan1 libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt libqt3c102-mt-mysql 
libqt3c102-mt-odbc
  libqt3c102-mt-psql lilo-config lskat megami mpeglib mysqlcc noatun
  noatun-plugins pixieplus poxml qt3-assistant qt3-designer qt3-dev-tools
  qt3-linguist qt3-qtconfig qtparted quanta secpolicy umbrello
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libjasper-1.701-1 libpng3 libqt3 libqt3-mt
The following packages will be upgraded
  k3b-i18n kdeartwork-misc libiodbc2 libpq3
4 upgraded, 4 newly installed, 248 to remove and 655 not upgraded.
Remv kdeutils (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv ark (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kde-core (4:3.1.2 Debian:testing)
Remv arts (1.2.3-1 Debian:testing)
Remv kdeaddons (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv noatun-plugins (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv noatun (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv krec (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv artsbuilder (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv cervisia (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:testing)
Remv digikam (0.6.2-3 Debian:unstable)
Remv doxygen-gui (1.3.8-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv eyesapplet (4:3.2.3-3 Debian:testing)
Remv flashkard (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv guarddog (2.3.0-2 Debian:testing)
Remv gwenview (1.1.3-3 Debian:testing)
Remv icemc (0.2.4-2 Debian:testing)
Inst k3b-i18n [0.9-1] (0.11-1 Debian:testing)
Remv k3b (0.11.13-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv k3blibs (0.11.13-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kdepim (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kaddressbook (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv korganizer (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kalarm (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kalzium (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv kdegraphics (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kamera (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kandy (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kdebase (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kappfinder (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv koffice (1:1.3.2-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv karbon (1:1.3.2-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv karm (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kasteroids (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:testing)
Remv kate-plugins (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:unstable)
Remv kate (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv katomic (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:testing)
Remv kaudiocreator (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:unstable)
Remv kbabel (4:3.2.3-2 Debian:testing)
Remv kbackgammon (4:3.2.3-1 Debian:testing)
Remv kbatt

Re: Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO for Debian

[John Summerfield]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
Those of you who installed Postfix and Cyrus. Did you follow this howto?
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html

I don't think that's the one I used:-) I'm sure there was nothing about 
mysql in the one I used.

Any tips?
I think there's one at linuxworld or wherever Joe hangs out. There's 
also part of an Oreilly book online in .de.

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Re: Urgent Help Needed: CONFIG_PARPORT not enabled

[Robert Vangel]

Vernon Webb said:
> I hate to do it but could in some quick need of a way to add parrellel
> support for my Debain Woody box. I'm new to Debian and have no idea why it
> wasn't installed in the first place, but any way I need to have the
> following enabled:
>
> CONFIG_PARPORT
> CONFIG_PARPORT_PC
> CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED
>
> Does this mean I have to reconfigure the kernal? If so what is the easy way
> to do this? Can someone point me to an easy to follow HowTo?
>
> Thanks
>


You can go into your kernel's source directory, do "make menuconfig", and go
to the "Parrellel port support" section (2.4). 2.6 is under a second menu I
think (Device Drivers or something similar). Go through and make sure
everything you want is selected.

Depending on how you do it (module or compiled in) you may have to do a "make
dep install" (2.4) / "make install" (2.6) or make modules modules_install


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Urgent Help Needed: CONFIG_PARPORT not enabled

[Vernon Webb]

I hate to do it but could in some quick need of a way to add parrellel 
support for my Debain Woody box. I'm new to Debian and have no idea why it 
wasn't installed in the first place, but any way I need to have the 
following enabled:

CONFIG_PARPORT
CONFIG_PARPORT_PC 
CONFIG_SERIAL_EXTENDED

Does this mean I have to reconfigure the kernal? If so what is the easy way 
to do this? Can someone point me to an easy to follow HowTo?

Thanks


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Re: Migration: Mozilla Mail to Mozilla Thunderbird

[John Summerfield]

Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hello List,
is there a secure (and easy) to migrate from Mozilla Mail to Mozilla 
Thunderbird ?

Depends
My mail's on an IMAP server. I regularly use tb, Moz, Kmail and even the 
dog on the same folders. Doesn't even matter if my email clients are on 
different computers.



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Re: signature separator

[John Summerfield]

Joost De Cock wrote:
On Wednesday 04 August 2004 14:20, Paul Gear hurled the following on the wire:
 

Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
   

...
 

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automatically, reducing noise in email replies.
   

Interesting! Can mutt do this? How do I configure it?
 

And how about Kmail?
 

Your choice.
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Re: you may be even more embarassed if you can't deliver

[John Summerfield]

Matt Perry wrote:
On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote:
 

Edvard Majakari wrote:
   

Obviously it is, as you can check by the headers.
 

The only s-a headers I see are mine.
   

SA overwrites other SA headers.  You can use the following in procmail to 
keep them:

:0fhw:
* ^X-Spam-Status:
| formail -R "X-Spam-Status" "X-Old-Spam-Status"
 

Why would anyone want to? My point rests. It's not obvious.
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Re: Debian spam stats [subject change]

[John Summerfield]

David P James wrote:
On Wed 4 August 2004 04:47, John Summerfield wrote:
 

Paul Gear wrote:
   

Is this list not spamassassined?
 

Debian is quite friendly towards spammers.
   

Not true - more than 95% of the mail received by Debian list servers is 
dropped:

 

Find everyones' email address on any Debian archive. How friendly is 
that? Debian doesn't have to carrythe load, every Debian user who's game 
enough to use a Debian list has to learn to cope.

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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[John Hasler]

Oliver Elphick writes:
> However, I would prefer a dedicated text input program without the
> web-browser overhead; so it would work like the old green-screen programs
> I used to write.  The objective here is maximum convenience for data
> entry: type in the data, press return to go to the next field, predictive
> text where possible, in-field editing.

Excellent, as long as the client is easily portable.  I don't understand
why people want graphics in accounting.

> I have the beginnings of the design of such a system; if anyone else
> would like to contribute ideas, please email me.

Your requirements sound good to me, though some of them are not relevant to
my needs.  Do you want to set up a mailing list, or maybe an Alioth
project?
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Re: Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO for Debian

[Erik Steffl]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
Those of you who installed Postfix and Cyrus. Did you follow this howto?
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html
Any tips?
  I am using lmtp for delivery, I think it is required if you want to 
use sieve.

erik
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Floppy install howto?

[dking]

I cant seem to find a decent howto on how to get debian installed via 
floppy only, with my netgear fa411 pcmcia network card working and on 
the network.

Does anyone know of one? I have been researching  all day and my eyes 
are tired from reading all the docs I have, so any help would be 
great. 



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3ware: 3dmd start and stop script

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Anyone have a start and stop script for 3dmd I can have a look at?
Thanks,
Jacob

**
 Automatic configuration is only supported for the Red Hat and SuSE distribu
tions. ***
*** Note: 3ware tests and supports Red Hat and SuSE distributions only. ***
You will need to configure the following manually on other systems.
You will need to create kill script links to init.d/3dm
Kill scripts should be setup in all run levels that don't support full user func
tionality.
(example rc0.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, rc6.d, rcS.d)
You will need to create start script links to init.d/3dm
Start scripts should be setup in all run levels that support full user functiona
lity.
(example rc3.d, rc4.d, rc5.d)
If your release supports chkconfig you can use it as follows to setup the runlev
el scripts.
chkconfig --add 3dm
chkconfig --level 345 3dm on
*** Note: To remove 3dm run level info use chkconfig --del 3dm ***
Run level scripts are only provided for Red Hat and SuSE Linux.
You may need to make changes to enable them under other distributions.
cp -f 3w-.rc.* /etc/rc.d/init.d/3dm
chmod 755  /etc/rc.d/init.d/3dm
The 3dm binary was copied to /usr/sbin/3dmd
3dmd.conf was created and placed in /etc

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Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO for Debian

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Those of you who installed Postfix and Cyrus. Did you follow this howto?
http://www.delouw.ch/linux/Postfix-Cyrus-Web-cyradm-HOWTO/html/index.html
Any tips?
Thanks,
Jacob
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Re: Home button not working in shell

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

How do I make the Home button work as expected?
Depress it as normal.
Could you be more specific?
Thanks,
Jacob
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Re: Migration: Mozilla Mail to Mozilla Thunderbird

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,
thanks for your email.
Aaron B wrote:
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On Wednesday 04 August 2004 11:16 am, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
Hello List,
is there a secure (and easy) to migrate from Mozilla Mail to Mozilla
Thunderbird ?
Thanks in advance,
Jerome

Yes, in fact, Mozilla Mail and Mozilla Firefox use the same mail format, 
so you can simply copy your mail folder from one profile to another. 
First you need to find where your mozilla profile was stored (probably 
something like ~/.mozilla/foo/foo/mail) and then copy that folder into 
your thunderbid profile's mail folder (probably something like 
~/.thunderbird/foo/foo/mail) If that doesn't work, do a google search- 
it's a pretty common operation that's probably covered in detail on 
mozilla forums.

In fact,
everything is explain in the Thunderbird FAQ  at www.mozilla.org
Thanks,
jgmb
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XMMS stopped handling playlists--second try

[Curt Daugaard]

Here is how I have the mime types set up in Mozilla-Foxfire, which have 
been working till a few days ago:

File types   Application
application/ogg  /usr/bin/xmms
audio/m3u/usr/bin/xmms
audio/playlist   /usr/bin/xmms
audio/x-scpls/usr/bin/xmms
ORIGINAL POST
Hi,
Till recently when I clicked on a Shoutcast entry, XMMS would open and 
start playing the stream with the Shoutcast directory still displayed. 
Now when I click an entry I get a blank browser screen and the XMMS 
"Play Files" dialog box pops up.  I haven't messed with the mime types. 
 Can someone tell me how to fix this?

Thanks a lot.
Curt
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Re: Sarge security

[Jason Rennie]

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 01:18:37PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
> I read where security will be online for Testing/Sarge on August 8th. I 
> am not sure about the sources line to use for it though. 

This should work:

deb http://security.debian.org sarge/updates main contrib non-free

Jason


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Re: Home button not working in shell

[Stephen Touset]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
How do I make the Home button work as expected?

Depress it as normal.
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Re: Home button not working in shell

[Stephen Touset]

Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
How do I make the Home button work as expected?

Depress it as normal.
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Home button not working in shell

[Jacob Friis Larsen]

Hello.
How do I make the Home button work as expected?
Thanks,
Jacob
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Problems installing Debian Linux 3.0r2 on a sun ultra5 (ultrassparc II)

[Roland Egger]

Hi,
sorry about that my last short subject line. I try it now again with
a more precise subject line.

I had a problem installing linux on a ultra5 with solaris 2.7 and solaris 2.8
on it. I had created the 5th partiton for linux and the 6th for the linux
swap partiton (=> hda5 / for linux with ext2 and hda6 for swap).
Everything went ok until the task to make the system bootable.

There were 3 possibilities:
1. Make the system bootable
2. Boot floppy
3. Alternate1

Because the first possibility would overwrite my bootblock for
Solaris I tried to make a boot floppy for linux but
without success. I've read somewhere that could
be a problem with some ultrasparc machines like ultra5/10.
I thought alternate1 wouldn't change the boot behaviour but I was wrong.
The Debian linux installation has overwritten my boot block for solaris.
I wasn't asked if I wanted to install SILO there and I don't know
a reason for installing it on an other partition than my linux partition
(/dev/hda5) but it has happened somehow ...
The funny thing was that with alternate1 I can't start solaris and
I can't start linux. There wasn't a possibility for me not to corrupt
my boot block with SILO from Debian, that should and need not be.
The easiest thing would be to add a possibility which calls
silo -t
or silo -r /mnt -t
or something like that.

It was really nasty to repair the thing.
Just using dd from a rescue disk and deleting the first sector like:

# make a backup of the boot sector
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=boot_512.sonne bs=512 count=1
# clean the boot sector
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1

doesn't work. The first sector just contain the disk lable and partition
information. The boot block on sparc machines are the next 15 sectors
or something like that.

The only possibility for me was to start the solaris installation cd.
During the installation process Openwin is started and there I got a shell
to run
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0

With silo -t I had managed it to be able to get SILO just to my
linux partition and boot it with
boot disk:e

I've read that there should be soon a new GNU Debian version and
it would be great if there's an easy possiblity to install
with -t option.
OpenBoot is really an easy and nice possibility to boot several
operating systems, so just booting into SILO isn't nice in every
case especially if solaris or bsd is used, too.
GNU Debian is a really nice linux but it would be even nicer if
the installation process of silo or maybe grub let the user the
possibility to still use OpenBoot for the other operating systems.

I hope the description of my problems can help other people to
solve them without having much trouble installing linux parallel
to sparc solaris.
Maybe there's a better solution in the new soon coming Debian 
Linux and maybe there are other better solution of installing 
Debian on sparc but I try a short abstract:
At the boot loader installation just select 
Make system bootable 
=> the boot block of solaris can be overwritten
but this isn't problematic if you have the solaris 
installation CDs.
After completing the linux installation run
silo -t
Then boot the solaris CDs and run e.g.
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0
for installing the solaris boo block on the first partition on an ide
disk.
Now you can boot Solaris and linux again without configure silo.conf
Kind regards
  Roland

 

 which had problems installing linux
on there sparc machine parallel to solaris
I hope this description of my problems may help other people during
there linux i

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Problems

[Roland Egger]

Hi,
I had a problem installing linux on a ultra5 with solaris 2.7 and solaris 2.8
on it. I had created the 5th partiton for linux and the 6th for the linux
swap partiton (=> hda5 / for linux with ext2 and hda6 for swap).
Everything went ok until the task to make the system bootable.

There were 3 possibilities:
1. Make the system bootable
2. Boot floppy
3. Alternate1

Because the first possibility would overwrite my bootblock for
Solaris I tried to make a boot floppy for linux but
without success. I've read somewhere that could
be a problem with some ultrasparc machines like ultra5/10.
I thought alternate1 wouldn't change the boot behaviour but I was wrong.
The Debian linux installation has overwritten my boot block for solaris.
I wasn't asked if I wanted to install SILO there and I don't know
a reason for installing it on an other partition than my linux partition
(/dev/hda5) but it has happened somehow ...
The funny thing was that with alternate1 I can't start solaris and
I can't start linux. There wasn't a possibility for me not to corrupt
my boot block with SILO from Debian, that should and need not be.
The easiest thing would be to add a possibility which calls
silo -t
or silo -r /mnt -t
or something like that.

It was really nasty to repair the thing.
Just using dd from a rescue disk and deleting the first sector like:

# make a backup of the boot sector
dd if=/dev/hda1 of=boot_512.sonne bs=512 count=1
# clean the boot sector
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 bs=512 count=1

doesn't work. The first sector just contain the disk lable and partition
information. The boot block on sparc machines are the next 15 sectors
or something like that.

The only possibility for me was to start the solaris installation cd.
During the installation process Openwin is started and there I got a shell
to run
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0

With silo -t I had managed it to be able to get SILO just to my
linux partition and boot it with
boot disk:e

I've read that there should be soon a new GNU Debian version and
it would be great if there's an easy possiblity to install
with -t option.
OpenBoot is really an easy and nice possibility to boot several
operating systems, so just booting into SILO isn't nice in every
case especially if solaris or bsd is used, too.
GNU Debian is a really nice linux but it would be even nicer if
the installation process of silo or maybe grub let the user the
possibility to still use OpenBoot for the other operating systems.

I hope the description of my problems can help other people to
solve them without having much trouble installing linux parallel
to sparc solaris.
Maybe there's a better solution in the new soon coming Debian 
Linux and maybe there are other better solution of installing 
Debian on sparc but I try a short abstract:
At the boot loader installation just select 
Make system bootable 
=> the boot block of solaris can be overwritten
but this isn't problematic if you have the solaris 
installation CDs.
After completing the linux installation run
silo -t
Then boot the solaris CDs and run e.g.
installboot /usr/platform/`uname -i`/lib/fs/ufs/bootblk /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s0
for installing the solaris boo block on the first partition on an ide
disk.
Now you can boot Solaris and linux again without configure silo.conf
Kind regards
  Roland

 

 which had problems installing linux
on there sparc machine parallel to solaris
I hope this description of my problems may help other people during
there linux i


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pthreads and kernel 2.6 problem

[Andy Ruddock]

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Running Debian unstable with the 2.6.7 kernel from kernel.org, no
patches but only support for my hardware is compiled in (I can make the
config available if required).
Programs using pthread_cancel() crash with segmentation fault depending
upon the kernel, I'm trying to determine whether the fault lies in the
kernel, pthreads, my pc's configuration or some other idiocy on my part.
The following short program crashes with a seg fault:
#include /* include file for pthreads - the 1st */
#include   /* include file for printf()   */
#include  /* include file for sleep()*/
void *Thread(void *string)
{
~int i;
~int o_state;
~/* disables cancelability */
~pthread_setcancelstate(PTHREAD_CANCEL_DISABLE, &o_state);
~/* writes five messages */
~for (i=0; i<5; i++)
~printf("%s\n", (char *)string);
~/* restores cancelability */
~pthread_setcancelstate(o_state, &o_state);
~/* writes further */
~while (1)
~printf("%s\n", (char *)string);
~pthread_exit(NULL);
}
int main()
{
~char *e_str = "Hello!";
~char *f_str = "Bonjour !";
~pthread_t e_th;
~pthread_t f_th;
~int rc;
~/* creates both threads */
~rc = pthread_create(&e_th, NULL, Thread, (void *)e_str);
~if (rc)
~return -1;
~rc = pthread_create(&f_th, NULL, Thread, (void *)f_str);
~if (rc)
~return -1;
~/* sleeps a while */
~sleep(10);
~/* requests cancellation */
~pthread_cancel(e_th);
~pthread_cancel(f_th);
~/* sleeps a bit more */
~sleep(10);
~pthread_exit(NULL);
}
Output from running it under gdb is :
#--- Output start ---
Hello!
Hello!
Program received signal SIG32, Real-time event 32.
[Switching to Thread 1083710384 (LWP 2625)]
0x40114f51 in write () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt
#0  0x40114f51 in write () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#1  0x400b53f9 in _IO_file_write () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#2  0x400b461f in _IO_do_write () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#3  0x400b45b8 in _IO_do_write () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#4  0x400b4ad9 in _IO_file_overflow () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#5  0x400b550e in _IO_file_xsputn () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#6  0x4008f2eb in vfprintf () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#7  0x40095ac2 in printf () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#8  0x40176d40 in _IO_2_1_stdin_ () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6
#9  0x080487b0 in _IO_stdin_used ()
#10 0x40981ab8 in ?? ()
#11 0x40043b18 in __JCR_LIST__ () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0
#12 0x080485c9 in Thread ()
#13 0x4003b9b4 in start_thread () from /lib/tls/libpthread.so.0
#14 0x in ?? ()
(gdb)
#--- Output end ---
The program was compiled simply with "gcc -lpthread thrd2.c"
It seems to run perfectly well under the 2.6.7-1-k7 kernel.
I also wrote a very small program which simply starts two threads,
cancels them, joins them and quits. I don't have the actual code I wrote
to hand, but the gist is :
thread_func()
{
wait();
}
main()
{
pthread_t t1;
pthread_t t2;
pthread_create(t1, NULL, &thread_func, NULL);
pthread_create(t2, NULL, &thread_func, NULL);
pthread_cancel(t1);
pthread_cancel(t2);
pthread_join(t1, NULL);
pthread_join(t2, NULL);
}
Removing the pthread_cancel calls makes the program work fine, but of
course I have to wait for each thread to complete.
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Re: Graphical backup software for Deb

[Patrick Donker]

John Fleming wrote:
Did you consider mondoarchive?
I use it, but I've never restored from bare metal like it's supposed to be
able to do.
- Original Message - 
From: "Patrick Donker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 2:05 PM
Subject: Graphical backup software for Deb


Guys,
I am in desperate need of a good backup solution with a graphical
interface. Ive tried to 'deb'ify the Arcserve/Brightstor rpm's using
alien, but that didnt quite work. What backup would you guys recommend
using? I've looked at Amanda as well, but the conf files drive me crazy
and the available gui's are all either broken or non-functional.
Any info is most welcomed.
-Patrick
Ps. Commercial solutions are an option for me :)
Thanks John,
Never heard of it (...but that doesnt mean anything :)), but I will most 
certainly take a look at it!

-Patrick
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FC2 User from canada

[Mohammad Sadra Saffari]

did you solve the problem u had with your printer. 
I'm having the same problem.

Re: How Do I Get the Java Plugin To Work with Firefox and Mozilla

[Jim McCloskey]

 Kent West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

|> Here's what I do. I download the appropriate bin from blackdown.org
|> (although Sun should work fine also).
|>
|> I then run the file in my home directory as a normal user.
|>
|> I then move the entire newly created j2sdk1.4.2 directory to /usr/local.
|>
|> I then change the permissions on the folder:
|> drwxr-xr-x  8 root  staff  4096 2003-12-17 00:13 j2sdk1.4.2
|>
|> I do this in two stages; I chown the directory, recursively, to give
|> every file root.staff ownership; I then chmod only the directory to
|> the above perms.
|>
|> I then do the symlink:

This didn't work for me completely until I added:

 /usr/local/java/bin

to users' PATH (/usr/local/java being a link to /usr/local/j2re1.4.2_05),

Jim


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Re: version mess, help needed

[CW Harris]

Not an expert in apt management, so...

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 11:56:05AM -0300, Roberto Winter wrote:
> Hi again,
> doesn't the output from "apt-cache policy" guarantee that (see my
> first message)?

I think it will *still* not downgrade a package that is already
installed.  Its primary purpose is for assisting in upgrades.
Downgrades are not really supported.

That said, I think if you ask for a specific version it will downgrade
packages as necessary (try with "-s" simulate switch first).

man apt-get for info on specifying particular versions (can search for
"downgrade" to get in the right part of the document).

I also understand that aptitude is much nicer for really trying to
control your installation, and is much smarter that apt-get in resolving
problems, but I'm still learning it, so I'm not sure if it would be
easier for this or not. (or synaptic for gtk based, since you may have a
broken curses system :)

[...]
> PS: Again, I am still not on the list, so I ask you to CC any answers to me
> too, thanks.

done.  You can also browse the list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user

HTH


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Re: Debian, Xwindows, USB Mouse and GeForce 4

[Adrian Tucker]

> ...
> a webserver.  I have installed Debian (v 3.0 r2 i386, the latest 
> "Woody") from CD.  I have a GeForce4 Ti 4200 and a Logitech Dual Optical 
> mouse plugged into my USB port.
> 
> When I type 'startx' I get 'Fatal server error'.  The error messages are 
> ...

I had a similar problem and solved it by getting a later version of X
from one of the backport mirrors. From the other comments I'm assuming
that the problem is with the supplied free driver, and I'm not too sure
what made me upgrade X but I found it easier than trying to install the
proprietary drivers. The disadvantage is that you're then out of sync
with the stable distro, and you may get into dependency problems
(specifically I had problems doing development linked to xlib). Possibly
a moot point with Sarge coming up, though running a server should always
err on the side of caution.

Anyway, there's a list of backport servers at:
www.apt-get.org
Do a package search for "xfree86". Choose a server which looks groovy,
for example backports.org, and add the server line to your
/etc/apt/sources.list file. The server line loooks like this:
deb ftp://linux.upsa.es/pub/XFREE4.3/ ./
If you now do a "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" it'll
upgrade every package held by the backport source, so you may want to
choose a backport source which only holds the package you want. Once
you've updated that package, you could then remove the backport source
from sources.list and do another "apt-get update" and "apt-get
dist-upgrade". The updated packages are held back in future upgrades.

If you have a broadband connection, you may want to consider installing
Sarge (the next release of Debian). That's what I did, and it's lovely
and great (many many thanks to all the contributors). If you do want to
go to Sarge, download the net-installer from:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/
And install from that CD. It worked great for me.

Ade


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Re: where to get modprobe.conf?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

Erhard Schultchen (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I switched from linux 2.4 to 2.6 some months ago. AFAIK, 2.6's
> module-init-tools use /etc/modprobe.d for module information such as
> aliases.
> 
> The manpage ( 5 modprobe.conf) also mentions the
> /lib/modules/modprobe.conf file, wich (among others) the alsa init
> script depends on. However, I am not sure how to obtain and maintain
> this file - is there something like update-modules available for 2.6?

If you install module-init-tools (which you did because without it you
cannot load modules for 2.6), update-modules will create that file.
This has however been abandoned in recent versions of
module-init-tools. From the changelog.Debian:

,---
|* Now /etc/modprobe.d/ is processed by modprobe. This means that
| /etc/modprobe.conf and /lib/modules/modprobe.conf are not needed
| anymore and update-modules is now a no-op. Executable scripts in
| /etc/modprobe.d/ are not supported anymore.
|  /etc/modprobe.conf will be removed or moved to /etc/modprobe.d/.
`---

If you use unstable or testing, I recommend that you install
apt-listchanges.

best regards
Andreas Janssen

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PAM: remembering previous passwords

[Stephen Touset]

As part of a requirement for a security certification my company is
attempting to acquire, we have to ensure that employees do not recycle
their previous four passwords. I need to find a way to accomplish this
in PAM.

I am fully aware that the pam_unix.so module has a flag 'remember=n',
which can be used for just this purpsoe. Here's the problem: we're using
LDAP authentication for all clients. The PAM System Administrators Guide
alludes to there being a way to have pam_cracklib.so check the
/etc/security/opasswd file for old user passwords, but it doesn't go any
deeper than that. And that's where I've reached a dead end.

Are there any modules specifically for this purpose? Does pam_ldap.so
have the feature built into it, somehow? Is there any other way to
accomplish what I'm trying to do? 

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Re: Sarge security

[Travis Crump]

Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 the mental interface of
Paul Maser told:

I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
need to edit it manually?

echo "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free"\ 

/etc/apt/sources.list

This works only for stable which is woody at the moment. Don't
expect security updates for testing (sarge yet), though.
Ciao
Elimar
Due to the 'impending' release of Sarge, official security support will 
commence for testing next week[as per the announcement on 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  So feel free to expect security updates 
for testing in the near future.


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Re: Sarge security

[Greg Madden]

On Wednesday 04 August 2004 12:00 pm, Paul Maser wrote:
> I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
> apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
> Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
> need to edit it manually?
> Thanks

I read where security will be online for Testing/Sarge on August 8th. I 
am not sure about the sources line to use for it though. 
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Re: you may be even more embarassed if you can't deliver

[Matt Perry]

On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote:

> Edvard Majakari wrote:
> 
> >Obviously it is, as you can check by the headers.
> >  
> >
> The only s-a headers I see are mine.

SA overwrites other SA headers.  You can use the following in procmail to 
keep them:

:0fhw:
* ^X-Spam-Status:
| formail -R "X-Spam-Status" "X-Old-Spam-Status"


The original message had this in the headers:

X-Old-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.9 required=4.0 tests=DRUGSPAM3,IMPRONONCABLE_1,
MURPHY_DRUGS1,MURPHY_WRONG_WORD1,MURPHY_WRONG_WORD2,ORDER_NOW,
PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no 
version=2.63-lists.debian.org_2004_07_08_01

Close, but no cigar.

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Re: Migration: Mozilla Mail to Mozilla Thunderbird

[Erik Steffl]

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Hello List,
is there a secure (and easy) to migrate from Mozilla Mail to Mozilla
Thunderbird ?
Thanks in advance,
Jerome

Yes, in fact, Mozilla Mail and Mozilla Firefox use the same mail format, 
so you can simply copy your mail folder from one profile to another. 
First you need to find where your mozilla profile was stored (probably 
something like ~/.mozilla/foo/foo/mail) and then copy that folder into 
your thunderbid profile's mail folder (probably something like 
~/.thunderbird/foo/foo/mail) If that doesn't work, do a google search- 
it's a pretty common operation that's probably covered in detail on 
mozilla forums.
  or use IMAP and don't worry about email format for various mail 
clients (and use number of mail clients at the same time, access mail 
remotely etc.)

erik
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Re: Sarge security

[Elimar Riesebieter]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 the mental interface of
Paul Maser told:

> I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
> apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
> Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
> need to edit it manually?

echo "deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free"\ 
>> /etc/apt/sources.list

This works only for stable which is woody at the moment. Don't
expect security updates for testing (sarge yet), though.

Ciao

Elimar

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Re: Sarge security

[Jacob S.]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:00:23 -0700
Paul Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
> apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
> Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
> need to edit it manually?

Due to the nature of Sarge, there is no security.debian.org listings for
it. If you want the security updates as fast as the e-mail alerts come
out, you should run Woody (stable) or Sid (unstable).

HTH,
Jacob

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bug in libpam-mysql ?

[Matthias Mezger]

I tried to use PAM authentication in ProFTPd with libpam-mysql. If I use
MD5-encrypted passwords in the MySQL-table, PAM-authentication (PAM: crypt=1
md5=y) always fails. If I change the passwords to MySQL-PASSWORD()-encryption,
authentication (PAM: crypt=2) succeeds, also succesful with
plaintext-passwords (PAM: crypt=0).

I'm using debian-sarge, libpam-mysql 0.5.0-6. The MD5-password-hash works with
the courier-authmysql daemon and the select-statement in the MySQL-log is
correct, so the problem probably lies somewhere inside libpam-mysql.

Did anybody have success with this kind of configuration? Is this some strange
bug in the md5-encryption part of libpam-mysql, or did I miss something?

Any help appreciated, it cost me 4 hours of my life so far...


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Re: Sarge security

[C. Tresenriter]

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:00:23 -0700
Paul Maser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
> apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
> Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
> need to edit it manually?
> Thanks

I'm new to Debian but just found Apt-spy.
It benchmarks servers and writes to /etc/apt/sources.list

pretty cool!


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Sarge security

[Paul Maser]

I installed the latest net-install Sarge dist and I noticed that
apt/sources.list doesn't have a link to security.debian.org.
Is there a program I can run to help me update this file or do I
need to edit it manually?
Thanks


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Re: Onboard soundcard just disappearing...

[Tom]

* [Wednesday 04 August 2004 20:40] matt zagrabelny:

> > As for your other questions: I didn't move my computer around or
> > something like that, no. The card just, well, stopped working out
> > of the blue.

 <...>

> try compiling an OSS driver (not ALSA pcm-oss emulation either) for
> the card. i know it is deprecated (in 2.6.7), but working with
> /dev/dsp is pretty low level (in my mind at least).
> you can always do things like "cat /dev/dsp > audio.raw" and "cat
> /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"

That was to check if the card is still able at all to function properly, 
right? In that case: I booted with a Knoppix CD I found somewhere, and 
I got sound just fine...

Good news, I guess... Still, alsaconf does not detect the thing, 
although I've used it a thousand times before to do so. Something must 
be wrong with my configuration, but in the pile of alsa configuration 
files that are spread around the system, I really can't find my way 
anymore.

If perhaps nobody else could point me in the right direction, I guess 
I'd better bother alsa-user with it, instead of this list...

Thanks for the help in any case,
Tom


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Re: how to manage services ?

[Bill Carlson]

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004, Didar Hussain wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 10:02:07AM +0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am new to debina. I have certain services running like lpd rpc etc. In RedHat 
> > there is a command chkconfig with which i can start/ top services for certain run 
> > levels or completely stop it from running.
> 
> I do not like unnecessary processes/daemons running, so to have
> them disabled completely irrespective of runlevel, I do:
> 
> update-rc.d -f  remove

A warning: a package that is disabled in this manner will not remain 
disabled if that package is updated. See man page for update-rc.d.

There are also things to watch out for like logrotate. On one machine lpd 
kept popping up every week even though I wanted it off, logrotate was 
restarting it! Better to just remove the package if you really don't want 
it enabled.

$.02

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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Wayne Topa]

Lukas Ruf([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi Flo,
> 
> > Florian Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 18:28]:
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > > Is there any log-file that shows me the exact changes of todays
> > > upgrade?
> >
> > |$ ls -al /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.*
> > |-rw-r--r--  1 root root 11716 2004-06-11 00:31 
> > /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.Debian.gz
> > |-rw-r--r--  1 root root 24207 2004-06-11 00:58 
> > /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.gz
> >
> > It take it this is what you are searching for. As you don't say what
> > version you upgraded _from_ there isn't much else to show...
> 
> thanks for the feedback.
> 
> As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily.  Therefore, subversion was not
> affected today.  It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar.
> 
> Any further ideas?

I picked up this script some time ago and have it run after each
update/dist-upgrade I do.  I didn't write it but I sure use and like
it alot.  Mosify it to fit your needs.


:-) HTH, YMMV, HAND :-)

#
#!/bin/sh

# Written by Larry Holish, [EMAIL PROTECTED]


# Script that writes current list of packages installed
# from /var/lib/dpkg/available to pkgs_woody.current.
# Keeps a history of changes between package versions
# in woody_history.txt.

LISTDIR=/home/wtopa/Debian
cd $LISTDIR

if [ -f 'woody_history.txt.gz' ]; then
gunzip woody_history.txt.gz
fi

if [ -f 'pkgs_woody.current' ]; then
mv pkgs_woody.current pkgs_woody.last
fi

COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l | grep "^i" | cut -b 5- > pkgs_woody.current

diff -C 0 pkgs_woody.last pkgs_woody.current >> woody_history.txt

gzip woody_history.txt
rm -f pkgs_woody.last

echo "Updating Package list at ~wtopa/Debian/woody_history.txt.gz"
#-

wt

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Re: signature separator

[Sven Arvidsson]

* Joachim Fahnenmueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 13:23]:
> Interesting! Can mutt do this? How do I configure it?

I found this perl script using Google, seems to work fine.
http://www.michnet.de/mutt/#signature

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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Lukas Ruf]

> N. Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 21:22]:
>
> If you've not tried it already, may I suggest using Subversion's
> FSFS repository? It implements a Subversion filesystem using the OS
> filesystem instead of Berkeley DB (hence the name).
>
Thanks for the reply.

I have read on the subversion mailiing list of FSFS.

> It will be out in Subversion 1.1 which, AFAICT, is due at the end of
> the month, but you can try it in 1.1rc1 which is out already (and
> 1.1.rc2 should be out within a week or so) -- and works great.
>

but there is no deb yet, or?

wbr,
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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[N. Thomas]

* Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 18:34:11 +0200]:
> As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily.  Therefore, subversion was not
> affected today.  It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar.

This is somewhat off-topic wrt your post, but I have found from personal
experience that 99.997% of my Subversion problems in the past had to do
with Berkeley DB.

If you've not tried it already, may I suggest using Subversion's FSFS
repository? It implements a Subversion filesystem using the OS
filesystem instead of Berkeley DB (hence the name).

It will be out in Subversion 1.1 which, AFAICT, is due at the end of the
month, but you can try it in 1.1rc1 which is out already (and 1.1.rc2
should be out within a week or so) -- and works great.

More info here:

http://web.mit.edu/ghudson/info/fsfs

Thomas

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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Lukas Ruf]

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> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 20:56]:
>
> And now you know why you shouldn't blindly upgrade daily unless there's
> something you know you actually want from that day's updates.

thanks for the very intelligent and constructive feedback!

wbr,
Lukas
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Graphical backup software for Deb

[Patrick Donker]

Guys,
I am in desperate need of a good backup solution with a graphical 
interface. Ive tried to 'deb'ify the Arcserve/Brightstor rpm's using 
alien, but that didnt quite work. What backup would you guys recommend 
using? I've looked at Amanda as well, but the conf files drive me crazy 
and the available gui's are all either broken or non-functional.
Any info is most welcomed.

-Patrick
Ps. Commercial solutions are an option for me :)
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Using Kmail along with a deamon, more

[David Baron]

In addition, I have detailed filters on the root kmail. I would like to make 
them accessible to the other login as well. Right now, kmail crashes in the 
other login. The Mail directory is on the other login's home page.


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Re: you may be even more embarassed if you can't deliver

[Paul Johnson]

John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Paul Gear wrote:
>
>>Is this list not spamassassined?
>
> Debian is quite friendly towards spammers.

Where did you get that idea?  According to the list rules, spammers
succeeding in getting a message to the list are billed $bignum per
message per list.  I do hope that SPI hires a collection agency to track
down debtors, though.


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Re: Kopete 8.4 "New Release"??

[Paul Johnson]

Ralph Crongeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does any one know if there is a deb of the 8.4 version of Kopete? I need
> it because it fixes problems with the Yahoo login.

No.  Given that Kopete is not yet to 1.0 and the current rate of
development, I would say you can expect 8.4 to release sometime around
2067.


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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Paul Johnson]

Lukas Ruf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dear all,
>
> today I run, as usual, an
> apt-get update
> apt-get upgrade
> .
>
> Exactly after todays upgrade, my subversion repository stopped
> working.

And now you know why you shouldn't blindly upgrade daily unless there's
something you know you actually want from that day's updates.


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Re: Migration: Mozilla Mail to Mozilla Thunderbird

[Aaron B]

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On Wednesday 04 August 2004 11:16 am, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List,
>
> is there a secure (and easy) to migrate from Mozilla Mail to Mozilla
> Thunderbird ?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jerome

Yes, in fact, Mozilla Mail and Mozilla Firefox use the same mail format, 
so you can simply copy your mail folder from one profile to another. 
First you need to find where your mozilla profile was stored (probably 
something like ~/.mozilla/foo/foo/mail) and then copy that folder into 
your thunderbid profile's mail folder (probably something like 
~/.thunderbird/foo/foo/mail) If that doesn't work, do a google search- 
it's a pretty common operation that's probably covered in detail on 
mozilla forums.
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Re: Onboard soundcard just disappearing...

[matt zagrabelny]

On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 13:33, Tom wrote:
> * [Wednesday 04 August 2004 20:06] Ian Knopke:
> 
> > Are you sure the hardware is still working properly? I have had
> > soundcards fail permanently before.
> 
> Argh... And: no, I'm not sure. How can I make sure anyway? I was 
> starting to think of a hardware problem too, but I thought if the
> card is properly detected, it should be all right... So you say it
> doesn't necessarily have to be?
> 
> As for your other questions: I didn't move my computer around or 
> something like that, no. The card just, well, stopped working out of 
> the blue.
> 
> > What kind of soundcard is it exactly?
> 
> Ehm... An onboard card; it's identified as 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio. 
> *blush* That's about all I know, really, except from the fact that
> I've always been able to play music with i8x0 drivers.
> 
> cat /proc/asound/cards reports
> 
>  0 [VirMIDI]: VirMIDI - VirMIDI
>   Virtual MIDI Card 1
>  1 [I82801BAICH2   ]: ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
>   Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xa800, irq 17
> 
> Greets,
> Tom
> 

tom,

try compiling an OSS driver (not ALSA pcm-oss emulation either) for the
card. i know it is deprecated (in 2.6.7), but working with /dev/dsp is
pretty low level (in my mind at least).
you can always do things like "cat /dev/dsp > audio.raw" and "cat
/dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"

-matt


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Re: Onboard soundcard just disappearing...

[Tom]

* [Wednesday 04 August 2004 20:06] Ian Knopke:

> Are you sure the hardware is still working properly? I have had
> soundcards fail permanently before.

Argh... And: no, I'm not sure. How can I make sure anyway? I was 
starting to think of a hardware problem too, but I thought if the
card is properly detected, it should be all right... So you say it
doesn't necessarily have to be?

As for your other questions: I didn't move my computer around or 
something like that, no. The card just, well, stopped working out of 
the blue.

> What kind of soundcard is it exactly?

Ehm... An onboard card; it's identified as 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio. 
*blush* That's about all I know, really, except from the fact that
I've always been able to play music with i8x0 drivers.

cat /proc/asound/cards reports

 0 [VirMIDI]: VirMIDI - VirMIDI
  Virtual MIDI Card 1
 1 [I82801BAICH2   ]: ICH - Intel 82801BA-ICH2
  Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xa800, irq 17

Greets,
Tom


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Using Kmail along with a deamon

[David Baron]

I have fetchmail working -- relatively painless -- and this services my pop 
accounts, placing them on a /var/mail/... box. Kmail can easily retrieve 
these from any login I choose. I of course need to configure the smtp to send 
from desired logins, easy enough.

Now ... I would like to be able to use my addressbook and my favorites from 
different logins. How do I do this. (My open-ldap is not working and Kmail 
does not really work seemlessly with that in any event.) Once I can get that 
working, I can get off "root" except when that is what I need!


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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[Lourens Steenkamp]

Lourens replying to Johann Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  On Tue, Aug 03, 2004 at 12:44:38AM +0100, Oliver Elphick wrote:
>  
>  > > I found the documentation confusing to say the least.
>  > 
>  > I agree with that.  (Once I got it working, I found sql-ledger to
>  > be cumbersome and not in my opinion suitable for use as an
>  > enterprise accounts system. )
>  
>  Thanks for your reply.  This remark of yours makes me wonder whether
>  it is worth while to try it out.
>  
>  ...
[snipped]

You should look at Cubit Accounting (www.cubit.co.za).
It uses apache and postgresql, mainly written in php4. 
I have some CD's that I am dishing out to Clients and will be happy to
pop a couple into the mail for you - just send me your postal address.

Plse Note that I am not affiliated/connected with Cubit Accounting.

HTH


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Enjoying Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 r2

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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Travis Crump]

Lukas Ruf wrote:
As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily.  Therefore, subversion was not
affected today.  It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar.
Any further ideas?
wbr,
Lukas
do a diff of /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/status-old. 
Assuming that you haven't done any additional installs you should be 
able to figure out what changed.  If you have done additional 
installs/upgrades, there are additional old dpkg status files in 
/var/backups/[to diff between]


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Re: Debian spam stats [subject change]

[David P James]

On Wed 4 August 2004 04:47, John Summerfield wrote:
> Paul Gear wrote:
> >Is this list not spamassassined?
>
> Debian is quite friendly towards spammers.

Not true - more than 95% of the mail received by Debian list servers is 
dropped:

http://www.redellipse.net/stuff/Debian/spam-counts.story

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Re: Onboard soundcard just disappearing...

[Ian Knopke]

Hi Tom,

Are you sure the hardware is still working properly? I have had soundcards 
fail permanently before. 

Also, if it is a PCI card, you might want to open the case and check that 
it is still pushed into the slot properly, or take it out and put it back 
in again. Did you move the computer around recently?

What kind of soundcard is it exactly?

:i



On Wed, 4 Aug 2004, Tom wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I was listening to some radio broadcast with MPlayer. I quit MPlayer to 
> start listening some music with XMMS, but without any apparent reason, 
> XMMS couldn't output any sound at all any more. It didn't show the 
> usual error dialog, though ("please check that..."), but since I 
> started it from the command line, I noticed an endless chain of alsa 
> errors ("broken pipes, alsa_free(), failed" is the gist of it as far as 
> I recall).
> 
> In the meantime, I've recompiled my kernel some times and generally 
> tried about anything I could think of (not that much, I'm afraid, since 
> I've never had this kind of audio problem before).
> 
> "alsaconf" no longer detects any PCI or PnP cards, alsamixer of course 
> can't mix anything at all. I was about to wonder whether my onboard 
> sound thingy just exploded or something, but judging from the output of 
> both dmesg (1) and lspci (2), it seems to be there and to be noticed 
> just fine.
> 
> (1) intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49260 usecs
> intel8x0: clocking to 48000
> ALSA device list:
> #0: Virtual MIDI Card 1
> #1: Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xa800, irq 17
> (2) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM
>   AC'97 Audio (rev 04)
> Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8095
> Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
> I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
> I/O ports at a400 [size=64]
> 
> At this point, I'm getting out of ideas. Kernel version is 2.6.7. I'd 
> say I've done something wrong compiling it with alsa support, but that 
> can't be it, since it has been functioning for quite some time now, and 
> just suddenly refused to continue to do so.
> 
> Could anybody please help me find out what's wrong here...?
> 
> Greets,
> Tom
> 
> 
> 



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Re: PHP problems (Warning: session_start(): read returned less bytes than requested)

[Bojan Baros]

Joost De Cock said:
> On Wednesday 04 August 2004 16:08, Bojan Baros hurled the following on the
> wire:
>> Hello Joost.
>>
>> Here's the code from session.php of the gallery (1.4.4-1):
>>
>> /* emulate register_globals for sessions */
>> if (!$gallery->register_globals) {
>
> I don't have the original post, but I think you where running this box at
> home
> not?
> You could try to enable register globals in your php.ini file:
>
> /etc/php4/apache/php.ini
>
> This is less secure, so it's better not to keep it that way, but it would
> be
> nice to know if that fixes the problem or not.
> The specific part is only called when register globals is off, so enabling
> it
> would tell us whether it is really specific to this code, or that maybe
> there's a more general problem.
>
> Could you try that, make sure to reload your apache before you test.
>
> joost
>
>
register_globals is already on, both in php.ini and httpd.conf.

Hmm... time to start looking deeper.

Bojan


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Re: Re: apt-get and/or dpkg problem

[Andreas Vinther]

--- Quote snip start ---
 
-> After i've switched on my computer the first and only -> 
thing i've started was apt-get distupgrade (so i dont't think there is -> 
another apt/dpkg/dselect/aptitude/etc running [ps -aux atleast doesn't show 
-> any). And many packeages before and after the mozilla-package were 
-> successvully installed. That's the point which confuses me the 
most.

--- Quote snip end ---
 
I can second your statement. I get the excact same 
error when installing the same packages.
I won't post my output, because it's very similar 
to the one you've already posted.
 
I've seen it install on my friends box which, like 
my own, run on a kernel 2.6.6.
the difference is that we 
use different .config files, and that he installed from kernel.org's 
source, and I installed from apt-get with Debian patches.
I don't think it has anything to do with the kernel 
though, but i thought i's mention it anyway.
 
It seems like the apt-script doesn't 
release the lock/mutex before it tries to lock/take it again.
As you've already mentioned, other packages install 
without a glitch.
 
I'm having this problem on my laptop HP Pavillion 
ZE4417
 
It seems unlikely that we're the only ones to come 
across this problem. We need the assistance of one of you hardcore, 
superduper, l337, turbocharged linuxgurus.
It would surely be nice to have access to another 
browser than links and konqueror which executes like shit outside 
KDE.
 
 
/Andreas

Onboard soundcard just disappearing...

[Tom]

Hey all,

I was listening to some radio broadcast with MPlayer. I quit MPlayer to 
start listening some music with XMMS, but without any apparent reason, 
XMMS couldn't output any sound at all any more. It didn't show the 
usual error dialog, though ("please check that..."), but since I 
started it from the command line, I noticed an endless chain of alsa 
errors ("broken pipes, alsa_free(), failed" is the gist of it as far as 
I recall).

In the meantime, I've recompiled my kernel some times and generally 
tried about anything I could think of (not that much, I'm afraid, since 
I've never had this kind of audio problem before).

"alsaconf" no longer detects any PCI or PnP cards, alsamixer of course 
can't mix anything at all. I was about to wonder whether my onboard 
sound thingy just exploded or something, but judging from the output of 
both dmesg (1) and lspci (2), it seems to be there and to be noticed 
just fine.

(1) intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49260 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ALSA device list:
#0: Virtual MIDI Card 1
#1: Intel 82801BA-ICH2 at 0xa800, irq 17
(2) :00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801BA/BAM
  AC'97 Audio (rev 04)
Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8095
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
I/O ports at a800 [size=256]
I/O ports at a400 [size=64]

At this point, I'm getting out of ideas. Kernel version is 2.6.7. I'd 
say I've done something wrong compiling it with alsa support, but that 
can't be it, since it has been functioning for quite some time now, and 
just suddenly refused to continue to do so.

Could anybody please help me find out what's wrong here...?

Greets,
Tom


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Horde2 + exim returned mail goes to www-data

[Rodrigo Chandia]

Hello!

I have installed Horde + exim4 on Debian testing. Everything works fine
until a mail is returned by the exim server.

Such mails get returned to www-data instead of the user that sent the
mail.

Is there any way to fix it?

Regards,
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Re: sql-ledger and postgresql: HOWTO?

[Oliver Elphick]

On Wed, 2004-08-04 at 03:00, John Hasler wrote:
> John Summerfield writes:
> > Web interfaces have their advantages though: for example, you client
> > machine can be anything anywhere running any web browser. One of the
> > things users like about sql-ledger is that you can do work at a client
> > site, connect to your accounts (possibly using their machine), print up
> > an invoice, process the payment & give them the receipt.
> 
> I would never make my accounting system accessible from the Net.  I would
> like it to be accessible on the LAN, though, and https seems like a good
> way to do that.

You can also let your client program talk to the PostgreSQL postmaster
through an SSL connection (for remote links) or Kerberos or directly
(for a trusted network).

I don't actively oppose a web interface; it's just that they are such a
pain to debug that I don't want to write one.

> > Also, using a web interface pretty much requires the application be
> > multiuser.
> 
> That's a given, isn't it?  I'd also want a text interface.  My wife hates
> GUIs.

A well-written web-interface should support lynx and similar text-based
browsers.  However, I would prefer a dedicated text input program
without the web-browser overhead; so it would work like the old
green-screen programs I used to write.  The objective here is maximum
convenience for data entry: type in the data, press return to go to the
next field, predictive text where possible, in-field editing.

> > Eiffel would offend those users who are especially keen on free software,
> > and ensure that the sotware would, at best, be in contrib.
> 
> I would not be interested in a non-free package.

Eiffel is free.  As has been pointed out, SmartEiffel is a GPL'd
compiler (the official GNU Eiffel compiler, no less!) and the class
libraries are free too.   It can even be faster than a program written
from scratch in C, because the optimisation looks at the entire program
before generating the C code rather than the more limited optimisation
that a C compiler can do (according to a current thread on the
smarteiffel mainlig list). 

> I have a toy system I spent some time on after I dropped out of the Gnucash
> project.  It uses Python and Postgresql and illustrates some ideas I was
> unable to sell to the Gnucash folks, such as using a journal as the
> fundamental data structure.  I haven't looked at it in years, so it has
> probably suffered bit-rot.

 

Let me set out what I think are some of the requirements for a good
accounting system (in no particular order):

1.  It should properly maintain double-entry, so that a
non-computer-literate bookkeeper can view accounts and understand them
as if he were looking at a written ledger.

2.  It should be fully integrated.  Cashbook, sales and purchase
invoicing, asset depreciation, employee expenses, tax deductions and
direct journal entries should all interact; the journal should be able
to address any ledger. 

3.  Account codes should be purely arbitrary.  I hate these systems that
force you to use numeric codes to sort the chart of accounts. The
organisation of accounts should depend on separate attributes of the
account definitions, not on their codes.

4.  There should be no limits on the number of companies, customers,
accounts or whatever.  (Proprietary systems tend to impose these to make
you pay for upgrades.)

5.  The system should be modular, so that you only need to install the
bits you use.

6.  There needs to be a full printed audit trail.  Entries should never
be deleted, only reversed.  Use printed checksums to enable it to be
proved that the current system entries are the same as were originally
entered.

7.  The system should enforce separation of duties, if the organisation
is large enough to need that.  (For example, the people who write
cheques should not be the same people as the bought ledger clerks).

8.  In view of the many different legal and tax systems in the world, it
should be easy to integrate tax modules in various places.

9. It should be easy to remove data relating to past years, without
affecting the current data; equally it should be possible to keep
multiple years' data on-line.

I have the beginnings of the design of such a system; if anyone else
would like to contribute ideas, please email me.
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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Florian Ernst]

Hello again!

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:34:11PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > > Is there any log-file that shows me the exact changes of todays
> > > upgrade?
> 
> As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily.  Therefore, subversion was not
> affected today.  It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar.

Ah, OK. No, plain apt-get doesn't keep any logs, you'd need another
tool (like aptitude and/or apt-listchanges) for that.

You can revert to a previous state using snapshot.debian.net and then
check the depends. You can still check each individual dependency's
changelog now by accessing changelog.debian.net/ or browsing
/usr/share/doc, you can get all recursive Depends using
apt-rdepends...

> Any further ideas?

Yes, please...

Cheers,
Flo


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Re: What are the dangers of using packages from both stable and testing?

[Mark Roach]

On Sat, 2004-07-31 at 18:02 -0400, Silvan wrote:
> On Saturday 31 July 2004 10:52 am, Carl Fink wrote:
> > BTW, using information from
> >
> > http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-pkg_basics.en.html
> >
> > section 6.14, you can quite easily recompile a Sid package using the Woody
> > libraries to run under Woody (unless the program requires actual features
> > not available in the older libs).
> 
> Which a vast heaping many of them probably do.  Woody is 40,000 years old, and 
> developers don't like to be constrained to features that were only available 
> when mankind was first taming fire.  Not when there's some new API call that 

This is nice speculation I suppose, but in practice, I have not run into
any packages that can't be compiled on woody, and only a few that
required a whole lot of supporting packages to be backported. The folks
over at backports.org certainly seem to have been able to backport a
good many packages.

-Mark


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Re: SSH: only listens on loopback

[rich]

2nd challenge

Using -R instead of -L, I get the same problem on the server, and -g doesn't 
fix it.

ie. with #ssh -f -N -g -L 8080:192.168.254.200:80 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would expect the sshd running on .19 to start listening to port 8080, and 
forwarding it to the webserver on .200. It works locally, on the sshd server, 
but I can't get to http://192.168.254.200:8080 from another remote host.

thanks.

rich


On Wednesday 04 August 2004 15:51, Robert Vangel wrote:
> You want to add a -g in there, so:
>
> # ssh -f -N -g -L 8080:192.168.254.19:80 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> From man ssh:
>
> [..]
>  -g  Allows remote hosts to connect to local forwarded ports.
> [..]
>
> rich said:
> > I have a server on 192.168.254.200 and a webserver on .19
> >
> > I run # ssh -f -N -L 8080:192.168.254.19:80 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > which sets it up so that
> > # lynx localhost:8080
> > brings me the page from the webserver at .19
> >
> > BUT, the 8080 port is only open to the local host, and I want it open for
> > all.
> >
> > # lynx 192.168.254.200:8080
> > doesn't work.
> >
> > nmap localhost shows the port is open, but nmap 192.168.254.200 shows
> > it's closed.
> >
> > I've set
> > ListenAddress: 0.0.0.0
> > in sshd_config but that didn't seem to do anything.
> >
> > I've trawled the 'net but found very little help.
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > rich.
> >
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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Lukas Ruf]

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Hi Flo,

> Florian Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-08-04 18:28]:
>
> On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> > Is there any log-file that shows me the exact changes of todays
> > upgrade?
>
> |$ ls -al /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.*
> |-rw-r--r--  1 root root 11716 2004-06-11 00:31 
> /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.Debian.gz
> |-rw-r--r--  1 root root 24207 2004-06-11 00:58 
> /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.gz
>
> It take it this is what you are searching for. As you don't say what
> version you upgraded _from_ there isn't much else to show...

thanks for the feedback.

As I wrote: I run update/upgrade daily.  Therefore, subversion was not
affected today.  It must rather deal with Berkeley DB or similar.

Any further ideas?

wbr,
Lukas
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Re: Todays apt-get upgrade broke my subversion

[Florian Ernst]

Hello!

On Wed, Aug 04, 2004 at 06:10:55PM +0200, Lukas Ruf wrote:
> Is there any log-file that shows me the exact changes of todays
> upgrade?

|$ ls -al /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.*
|-rw-r--r--  1 root root 11716 2004-06-11 00:31 
/usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.Debian.gz
|-rw-r--r--  1 root root 24207 2004-06-11 00:58 /usr/share/doc/subversion/changelog.gz

It take it this is what you are searching for. As you don't say what
version you upgraded _from_ there isn't much else to show...

HTH,
Flo


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Kopete 8.4 "New Release"??

[Ralph Crongeyer]

Hi all,
Does any one know if there is a deb of the 8.4 version of Kopete? I need 
it because it fixes problems with the Yahoo login.

Thanks
Ralph
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