New newsgroup for Debian users

2004-08-26 Thread M Singh
Hi

Had to reveal my email address for this post, but I
guess its ok if this new newsgroup takes off and opens
up a choice for Debian users.

Following positive response in comp.os.linux.misc and
generally supportive response in alt.config, I have
created the first unmoderated newsgroup for
Debian GNU Linux - alt.os.linux.debian by sending out
the control message.

Please help in propagating this newsgroup to your
favorite news server by requesting them to carry it.

Let us get it started.

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CHARTER:
For questions and answers relating to the installation
and use of different flavors of Debian GNU Linux
(stable, testing, unstable and other derivant
distributions). The newsgroup will be unmoderated.

JUSTIFICATION:
Debian GNU Linux is one of the most popular Linux
distributions (consistently ranked in the top 5-6
distros -
http://www.distrowatch.org/stats.php?section=popularity
). Its user base probably numbers in millions
worldwide. The largest number of derivant
Linux distributions are based on Debian (97 -
http://www.distrowatch.org/stats.php?section=independence
). A survey of available Debian newsgroups on
groups.google.com reveals that there are no
unmoderated newsgroups available specifically for
Debian GNU Linux. The newsgroups in the linux.debian.*
hierarchy are all moderated and are linked to mailing
lists via a mail to news gateway, and hence require a
valid email address for users to even post their
queries. Though these lists have heavy traffic, a
large number of Debian related posts end up on the
comp.os.linux.* hierarchy every day. These newsgroups
(under comp) are not specifically geared towards
Debian and people often get incomplete advice for
their problems.Over the past one year, the number of
users
using Debian and derivant distributions like Knoppix
has steadily risen partially due to its highly evolved
package management system and the discontinuation of
the personal version of Red Hat Linux. Thus, creation
of this newsgroup would at once be timely and
extremely well received.

In this age of spammers harvesting email addresses
from newsgroups and mailing lists (such as
linux.debian.*), with spam rising to above 60 % of
total email traffic
(http://www.brightmail.com/spamstats.html), ability
to use spam.invalid style addresses in unmoderated
genuine newsgroups can help in alleviating this problem.



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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
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Err, d-i?
 

Debian Installer
What you're (probably) using to install Sarge
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, John Summerfield wrote:
 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
Is there a way to get around this?

 

Best to direct Qs about d-i to the boot-floppies list where all the d-i 
folk hang out. They will want to know about this.

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Re: domain name of debian

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
John L Fjellstad wrote:
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
 

John L Fjellstad wrote:
   

John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
search demo.room
nameserver 192.168.9.4
nameserver 192.168.8.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f
Dolphin.demo.room
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
   

I don't think so:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f
legolas
 

So you don't have a domain name. What does that disprove?
   

That changing the resolv.conf only doesn't set the domain name.
 

Ok, so you're not using the resolver to resolve your host name/IP. I do, 
because it's the only solution I know that scales.

That's why changing resolv.conf works on my system, not on yours.


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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread debian
That did the trick, Thanks!

Michael


> On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 23:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
> > I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
> > serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
> > 
> > Is there a way to get around this?
> > 
> 
> Sorry, forgot something: the debian installer also tries some vga
> stuff during install. Adding the following parameter
> "debian-installer/framebuffer=false" to your "append" line disables
> that behaviour.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jan.
> 
> 


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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread debian
Yes, I add the console= line to my boot image in pxe, but I still
get weird characters .. It works fine when I do a (cringe) redhat
install.. Is it maybe the kernel I'm using (sarge) ?

On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, John Smith wrote:

> On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 23:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
> > I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
> > serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
> > 
> > Is there a way to get around this?
> > 
> 
> I use this as the initial config file for a soekris 4801 with only
> a serial console, runs like a charm...
> 
> SERIAL 0 9600
> timeout 20
> prompt 1
> default daily/vmlinuz
> append initrd=daily/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/rd/0 \
> init=/linuxrc devfs=mount,dall rw console=ttyS0,9600n8
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Jan
> 
> 


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Re: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Phil Thomson wrote:
Hi all,
Working on a network install of Debian, but I'm having trouble getting 
the network to come up. My NIC is a D-Link DFE-530TX, the driver for 
which is rtl8139. When I run dhclient, I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource 
temporarily unavailable". The list archives suggest that it has 
something to do with the driver and/or a conflicting IRQ. Does anyone 
else have experience with this error message? What's the easiest way 
to change the driver for this (one person suggested 8139too). How do I 
check the IRQ's? TIA for any info.

8139too is certainly the right driver, and the use of something else is 
a sufficient explanation of why it doesn't work.

The Q becomes, why are you not using 8139too?
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Re: (Sid) Net broken - Sending streams stall

2004-08-26 Thread Brendon Higgins
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> Please verify if you don't have ECN enabled, but it really doesn't look
> like an ECN problem at all.

Uh, ECN? *puzzled* If I had changed anything about "ECN" on purpose I think 
I'd remember, but I don't remember doing anything regarding that particular 
acronym. At least, not manually.

> If your computer can talk to a machine very near you (i.e. there is only
> switching equipment between the two, no routers or firewalls) without
> trouble, then you have a misconfigured router or firewall in the way.

Well, my computer can talk to any other, to a degree. For some reason larger 
outgoing TCP streams being sent from my computer stall. My computer receives 
data just fine, but seems to have trouble sending it. Mind you, this only 
happens to individual streams, and it does not happen in Win98, which is why 
I suspect something in my Debian install is broken. Does the Linux TCP/IP 
implementation really differ that much from Windows that a problem like this 
is possible to exist in one but not the other?

> I'd try to locate all of those using traceroute (won't flag
> packet-filtering bridges, though), and request help from the local network
> engineers to track it down.

Oh dear, sounds like this is going from bad to worse... ;-)

Thanks,
Brendon


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Re: copying text from console to X with gpmdata?

2004-08-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:30:22PM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> Reformatted:
> What windows teaches you to do:
> 1. Select text to copy
> 2. Ctl-C
> 3. Select text to replace
> 4. Ctl-V
> 
> Convert to the 'X11 way':
> 1. Select text to copy
> 2. Select text to replace
> 3. Btn2 click

Reformatting it doesn't change that you're using the clipboard on the
Windows side, and selections rather than the clipboard on the X11 side, and
apparently surprised that they don't work the same way.

Use the clipboard on both sides, it works the same way on both.

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Re: Debian-FreeBSD?

2004-08-26 Thread Dean Hamstead
freebsd isnt ported to ppc so it doesnt install.
you could use openbsd on your ppc though. but theres no
debian openbsd
Dean
Ed Sutherland wrote:
Has anyone tried the Debian port of FreeBSD? Is there a PPC version? How 
does it install? Thanks.

Ed


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Re: How to Back Up SQL Databases and Firewall

2004-08-26 Thread John Smith
On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 06:12, Ed Sutherland wrote:
> How do I back-up my MySQL databases to a CD disc?
> 
> Also, what is the best firewall app for Gnome users?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Ed
> 

firestarter comes to mind...

'apt-get install firestarter'

Sincerely,

Jan.


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Re: domain name of debian

2004-08-26 Thread John L Fjellstad
John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> John L Fjellstad wrote:
>
>>John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>dnsdomainname is in /etc/resolv.conf
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>>>search demo.room
>>>nameserver 192.168.9.4
>>>nameserver 192.168.8.1
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f
>>>Dolphin.demo.room
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
>>>
>>
>>I don't think so:
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ hostname -f
>>legolas
>>
>
> So you don't have a domain name. What does that disprove?

That changing the resolv.conf only doesn't set the domain name.

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Re: clock suddenly slipping behind

2004-08-26 Thread Tim Connors
Stefan O'Rear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:34:17 -0700:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:23:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> > over the past few days, i've noticed that my system clock gets about
> > ten to fifteen minutes slow over the course of a day.  this is really
> > weird!  i've been using ntpdate to synchronize it with a timeserver
> > whenever i notice it, and i put it in a once-a-day cron job, but i
> > want my system to ALWAYS be on time.  i'm confused as to what's
> > causing this, and how i can fix it.  any ideas?
> 
> Perhaps your PIT is going south? (PIT = Programmable Interval Timer,
> a variable-frequency timer usually set to 100HZ by Linux.)

Nope. This seriously needs investigation.

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=2qVhI-80D-5%40gated-at.bofh.it

The one replyer said he didn't see anythign wrong.


I had 2 machines with ntp packages and adjtimex querying two known
good upstreams, plus three pool.ntp.org servers, that upon upgrade of
sid a couple of weeks ago, broke at the rate of ~12 and ~14 seconds
per 10 minutes (for my two machines, very constant for each), which
was ~twice the rate that the OT reported).  One went through a kernel
reboot and the other didn't, so it wasn't a new kernel issue.
Uninstalling ntp and adjtimex and reinstalling didn't fix.
Uninstalling, *purging* (so drift file and config files gone),
*rebooting*, and then reinstalling fixed.  Doing one or the other of
rebooting and purging was not good enough - the kernel keeps state in
one case, and the ntp drift files etc keep state in the other case.

I haven't tried to reproduce this, but things to note were the drift
file *seemed* to have normal contents, the adjtime file was slightly
off (but should only affect the hardware timer anyway, and was
probably off because ntp was so confused - you can't calibrate the
hardware clock off a faulty software clock).

One other very clued in guy on the scary devil monastery also found
this problem a day or two ago. I've been in communication with him,
and it seems these are all related. There is a hard to trigger bug
somewhere, but if you want to track it down, you'll prbablky need to
reinstall old version of ntp and/or adjtimex and just keep working
forwards and backwards until you trigger the bug again.


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Re: installing error

2004-08-26 Thread Loki
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Stefan O'Rear wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 03:39:21PM -0400, Abdool wrote:
> > hi,
> > While installing the "base system" in Debian, I get the error message, 
> > file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.4_1386.deb was corrupt.
> > Couldn't download apt.
> > Please tell me what is to be done. I want to use dual boot with Win xp
> > thanks
> > Ron
>
> Did you burn a CD to install Debian from? If so, try redownloading the
> ISO file...

Well, before redownloading, perhaps try reburning the ISO file.

Some burns fail, after all. It could be a bad CD-R. (Actually, that's the
most likely thing, IME.)
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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread John Smith
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 23:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
> I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
> serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
> 
> Is there a way to get around this?
> 

Sorry, forgot something: the debian installer also tries some vga
stuff during install. Adding the following parameter
"debian-installer/framebuffer=false" to your "append" line disables
that behaviour.

Sincerely,

Jan.


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OT: Gmail invitations

2004-08-26 Thread zz
Spammer. This has nothing to do with Debian.


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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Scarletdown
On Thursday 26 August 2004 21:24, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:09:12PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 August 2004 20:00, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> > > locate *.deb
> > >
> > > Take the first one you see, and:
>
> c
> Take the first you you see that still exists, and:
> .
> ...
>
> > Here's what I got:
> >
> > dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `/root/apache_1.3.31-2_i386.deb':
> > No such file or directory

I've tried several different ones and still get the same error.


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Re: copying text from console to X with gpmdata?

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:12:03PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 10:46:52AM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:08:33PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
> > I do that all the time, and it ALWAYS works.  The only problem I have is:
> > 
> > 1. Select Text 1. Select text
> > 2. 2. Hit Ctrl-C
> > 3. Select Text 3. Select Text
> > 4. Middle Click4. Hit Ctrl-V
> 
> That doesn't work.  You're mixing selections (the left side) with the
> clipboard (the right side).  Do it all with the clipboard, and it works.

Reformatted:
What windows teaches you to do:
1. Select text to copy
2. Ctl-C
3. Select text to replace
4. Ctl-V

Convert to the 'X11 way':
1. Select text to copy
2. Select text to replace
3. Btn2 click

which doesn't work.

> > You can see how an ex-Windozer can have problems.
>
> No, actually, I can't, because I see no reason why this supposed ex-Windows
> user would even try to use *selections*.  He would have no clue that you
> could move text around just by selecting it.
Actually, I was referring to myself.

> He would expect the clipboard in X to work the same way it does in Windows,
> and he'd be justified, because it more or less does.

> This is why idiots who tell people that selections are the same thing
> as the clipboard should be shot.
Agreed.

> > > The PRIMARY and SECONDARY selections are orthagonal to CLIPBOARD.
> > Yet, Xterm selections go into both.
> 
> Yes, the default configuration for xterm is that it both asserts PRIMARY,
> and copies the selected text to CLIPBOARD.  Not that it's hard to change
> that, but that's what it does by default.
> 
> What $RANDOM_APPLICATION does, however, when presented with
> middle-mouse-click, is not defined by any standard, but by the individual
> application.
> 
> It may try to paste PRIMARY (Mozilla), it may try to paste CLIPBOARD (vim),
> or it may try to paste PRIMARY and then try to paste CLIPBOARD if it can't
> get PRIMARY (xterm).

"Standards are great - there are soo many of them to chose from!"
 - unremembered webpage

Yikes.


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Re: how do i get kdm

2004-08-26 Thread Loki
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Johnny wrote:

> Late last nite i reinstall Debian 30r2 i386. and I am using gdm as login
> now i wanting to use kdm how do i go about get kdm and not gdm.

apt-get install kdm
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Re: smbmount w2k3 no write access

2004-08-26 Thread Loki
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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004, Jody Grafals wrote:

> If I can't get the thing to mount the way I want it, Can I somehow give the
> user (myself) root access to this directory?

Yes. Use sudo. apt-get install sudo first (if you don't have it)

Create a script in /usr/local/bin, call it, say, smbmounthack, put the
commands that you need to execute as root in it, and edit /etc/sudoers to
authorize yourself to perform the desired action as root.

The following is clipped from an email I posted to this list a couple days
ago. :)

Okay, here's an example. On my laptop, I want to let ordinary users shut
the machine down. Of course, /sbin/shutdown is root only, as it should be
(ugh, setuid is bad).

In /etc/sudoers, I have:
User_Alias  USERS = {my user list}
Cmnd_Alias  SHUTDOWN = /usr/local/sbin/shutdown.sh
Cmnd_Alias  NTPDATE = /etc/init.d/ntpdate
USERS   ALL = NOPASSWD: SHUTDOWN, NTPDATE

That allows users to run shutdown.sh and ntpdate (but only from the init.d
script, not ntpdate by itself, which means that they can't change the
server that ntpdate uses).

shutdown.sh looks like this:
#! /bin/sh
#
# Meant to be used as a target for sudo to allow users to gracefully
# shutdown the laptop.

case "$1" in
  restart)
/sbin/shutdown -r now
;;
  shutdown)
/sbin/shutdown -h now
;;
  *)
echo "Usage: shutdown.sh {restart|shutdown}" >&2
exit 1
;;
esac

exit 0

This prevents users from using any other modifiers to shutdown.

So in my other scripts (I have some that call Xdialog to confirm shutdown
or restart), I use sudo /usr/local/sbin/shutdown.sh shutdown or
sudo /usr/local/sbin/shutdown.sh restart to allow users to shutdown or
restart.

You would probably want targets like mount) and unmount) in your script.

This is, of course, assuming that you never figure out how to mount the
SMB share normally. (Perhaps smbmount needs to open a priviledged port, or
something?)
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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:09:12PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> On Thursday 26 August 2004 20:00, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> > locate *.deb
> >
> > Take the first one you see, and:
c
Take the first you you see that still exists, and:
.
...
> Here's what I got:
> 
> dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `/root/apache_1.3.31-2_i386.deb': No 
> such file or directory


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"SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable"

2004-08-26 Thread Phil Thomson
Hi all,
Working on a network install of Debian, but I'm having trouble getting the 
network to come up. My NIC is a D-Link DFE-530TX, the driver for which is 
rtl8139. When I run dhclient, I get "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily 
unavailable". The list archives suggest that it has something to do with the 
driver and/or a conflicting IRQ. Does anyone else have experience with this 
error message? What's the easiest way to change the driver for this (one person 
suggested 8139too). How do I check the IRQ's? TIA for any info.

P
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Debian-FreeBSD?

2004-08-26 Thread Ed Sutherland
Has anyone tried the Debian port of FreeBSD? Is there a PPC version? How 
does it install? Thanks.

Ed
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Re: How to Back Up SQL Databases and Firewall

2004-08-26 Thread Paolo Falcone
On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 00:12:57 -0400, Ed Sutherland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I back-up my MySQL databases to a CD disc?

Well, I think it's easier that you do mysql_dump to the filesystem
then burn the dumps to disks
 

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How to Back Up SQL Databases and Firewall

2004-08-26 Thread Ed Sutherland
How do I back-up my MySQL databases to a CD disc?
Also, what is the best firewall app for Gnome users?
Thanks.
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Re: copying text from console to X with gpmdata?

2004-08-26 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 10:46:52AM -0700, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 11:08:33PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
> I do that all the time, and it ALWAYS works.  The only problem I have is:
> 
> 1. Select Text 1. Select text
> 2. 2. Hit Ctrl-C
> 3. Select Text 3. Select Text
> 4. Middle Click4. Hit Ctrl-V

That doesn't work.  You're mixing selections (the left side) with the
clipboard (the right side).  Do it all with the clipboard, and it works.

> You can see how an ex-Windozer can have problems.

No, actually, I can't, because I see no reason why this supposed ex-Windows
user would even try to use *selections*.  He would have no clue that you
could move text around just by selecting it.

He would expect the clipboard in X to work the same way it does in Windows,
and he'd be justified, because it more or less does.  This is why idiots
who tell people that selections are the same thing as the clipboard should
be shot.
 
> > The PRIMARY and SECONDARY selections are orthagonal to CLIPBOARD.
> Yet, Xterm selections go into both.

Yes, the default configuration for xterm is that it both asserts PRIMARY,
and copies the selected text to CLIPBOARD.  Not that it's hard to change
that, but that's what it does by default.

What $RANDOM_APPLICATION does, however, when presented with
middle-mouse-click, is not defined by any standard, but by the individual
application.

It may try to paste PRIMARY (Mozilla), it may try to paste CLIPBOARD (vim),
or it may try to paste PRIMARY and then try to paste CLIPBOARD if it can't
get PRIMARY (xterm).

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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Scarletdown
On Thursday 26 August 2004 20:00, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> Ok, try:
>
> mkdir foox
> cd foox
> catchsegv tar -xf ../foo.tar
>
> If you still don't see anything...
>
> locate *.deb
>
> Take the first one you see, and:
>
> cd
> mkdir debx
> cd debx
> catchsegv dpkg-deb -x
> /home/stefan/avifile-player_0.7.38.20030710-1_i386.deb .
>
> Remember to substitute the .deb you found!
>
> If it is successful, you will see no output, and:

Here's what I got:

dpkg-deb: failed to read archive `/root/apache_1.3.31-2_i386.deb': No 
such file or directory



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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread John Smith
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 23:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
> I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
> serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
> 
> Is there a way to get around this?
> 

I use this as the initial config file for a soekris 4801 with only
a serial console, runs like a charm...

SERIAL 0 9600
timeout 20
prompt 1
default daily/vmlinuz
append initrd=daily/initrd.gz ramdisk_size=8192 root=/dev/rd/0 \
init=/linuxrc devfs=mount,dall rw console=ttyS0,9600n8

Sincerely,

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Re: debian potato 2.2 - apt sources.list

2004-08-26 Thread dale lane
Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 07:05:00PM -0700, dale lane wrote:
> 
> > For the last 2 days I have been trying to Install
> > Debian potato 2.2r? on an old computer that I have.
> 
> Why?  It hasn't had a security update in over a year, so it's guaranteed to
> be dangerous to put on a network.  What makes you think 2.2 will be more
> limited-resource friendly than Woody or Sarge?
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> deb http://archive.debian.org potato main contrib non-free

But that server appears to be down.
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  deb http://archive.debian.org potato main contrib non-free

is down and has been down for several days.
Debian potato 2.2r7 or whatever is not going on to a network,
just on to an old computer salvaged out of a thrift store,
and it uses quite a bit less disk space than other more current 
versions of Debian, and xfree86 will work and surf the 
internet on 32 megabytes of ram.

I am still trying to find a Debian potato 2.2 server other
than  deb http://archive.debian.org/
that I can download potato 2.2 packages from ?


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Re: clock suddenly slipping behind

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:23:07PM -0400, Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> over the past few days, i've noticed that my system clock gets about
> ten to fifteen minutes slow over the course of a day.  this is really
> weird!  i've been using ntpdate to synchronize it with a timeserver
> whenever i notice it, and i put it in a once-a-day cron job, but i
> want my system to ALWAYS be on time.  i'm confused as to what's
> causing this, and how i can fix it.  any ideas?

Perhaps your PIT is going south? (PIT = Programmable Interval Timer,
a variable-frequency timer usually set to 100HZ by Linux.)

I'd take the easy way out and turn ntpdate into a minutely job.

WARNING: The linux scheduler uses the pit and the pit alone. If the pit
 stops, your system WILL lock up hard.


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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread ACP
Scarletdown wrote:

> On Thursday 26 August 2004 19:25, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 06:50:08PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
>> > I need some help here.  Suddenly, I can no longer install anything
>> > via apt-get, segfaults out the wazoo.
>> >
>> > Here is the output from my attempt to install the latest k3b...
>>
>> #SNIP#
>>
>> > I get similar errors no matter what I try to install.
>> >
>> > How can I fix this?
>>
>> tar is broken...
>> Run:
>>
>> catchsegv tar -cf foo.tar .bashrc
>>
>> And tell us what you see...
> 
> I saw nothing at all.
> 
>> (My best guess: You're running unstable and you accidentally upgraded
>> something tar depends on but doesn't have a Depends on)
> 
> Yes, I am running unstable.  I can't remember what the last thing I was
> that I upgraded though.

It looks like you're running this on a local package cache--maybe something
is corrupted there?  An "apt-get clean" will allow you to fetch fresh
copies of those packages. . .


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clock suddenly slipping behind

2004-08-26 Thread Nori Heikkinen
over the past few days, i've noticed that my system clock gets about
ten to fifteen minutes slow over the course of a day.  this is really
weird!  i've been using ntpdate to synchronize it with a timeserver
whenever i notice it, and i put it in a once-a-day cron job, but i
want my system to ALWAYS be on time.  i'm confused as to what's
causing this, and how i can fix it.  any ideas?

thanks,



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OT: Gmail invitations

2004-08-26 Thread Jeff Elkins
Here are six more gmail invites:

Jeff Elkins



http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-d23898c6f5-a44f0a166f-0fff6b0591

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-d23898c6f5-0ae86e6db2-e8781237b7

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-d23898c6f5-3241a2396a-56af3f46b6

http://gmail.google.com/gmail/a-d23898c6f5-edbc011640-471a253ed0

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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:43:17PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> On Thursday 26 August 2004 19:25, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> > catchsegv tar -cf foo.tar .bashrc
> I saw nothing at all.

Good!

Ok, try:

mkdir foox
cd foox
catchsegv tar -xf ../foo.tar

If you still don't see anything...

locate *.deb

Take the first one you see, and:

cd
mkdir debx
cd debx
catchsegv dpkg-deb -x /home/stefan/avifile-player_0.7.38.20030710-1_i386.deb .

Remember to substitute the .deb you found!

If it is successful, you will see no output, and:

~/debx %% ls -la
total 24k
drwxr-xr-x3 stefan   stefan   4.0k Aug 26 19:59 .
drwxr-xr-x  175 stefan   stefan16k Aug 26 19:59 ..
drwxr-xr-x5 stefan   stefan   4.0k Jul 10  2003 usr
~/debx %% 

Again, report back...


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Re: Computers doesn't power off

2004-08-26 Thread Kent West
Adam Funk wrote:
On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:00, Kent West wrote:
 

I think what Adam might want to do is to run "modconf", go down to the
"kernel/drivers/acpi" section, and install any necessary features in
that manner. (I think different versions of modconf look different, so
if you're not running Sid you may have to search a bit in modconf to
find the right stuff, but this should give you a start.)
   

Sounds good.  Does this modconf process just install a relevant module
and ensure it gets loaded?
 

It's a point-and-click type application for loading/unloading modules. 
In addition, it'll add (and remove?) module entries from "/etc/modules".

If you know the name of the module you wish to install (see 
/lib/modules/[kernel-version/ directory), you can accomplish the same 
thing manually with the command "modprobe " followed by 
adding "" to "/etc/modules".

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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Scarletdown
On Thursday 26 August 2004 19:25, Stefan O'Rear wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 06:50:08PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> > I need some help here.  Suddenly, I can no longer install anything
> > via apt-get, segfaults out the wazoo.
> >
> > Here is the output from my attempt to install the latest k3b...
>
> #SNIP#
>
> > I get similar errors no matter what I try to install.
> >
> > How can I fix this?
>
> tar is broken...
> Run:
>
> catchsegv tar -cf foo.tar .bashrc
>
> And tell us what you see...

I saw nothing at all.

> (My best guess: You're running unstable and you accidentally upgraded
> something tar depends on but doesn't have a Depends on)

Yes, I am running unstable.  I can't remember what the last thing I was 
that I upgraded though.


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Re: apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 06:50:08PM -0700, Scarletdown wrote:
> I need some help here.  Suddenly, I can no longer install anything via 
> apt-get, segfaults out the wazoo.
> 
> Here is the output from my attempt to install the latest k3b...
> 
#SNIP#
> 
> I get similar errors no matter what I try to install.
> 
> How can I fix this?

tar is broken...
Run:

catchsegv tar -cf foo.tar .bashrc

And tell us what you see...

(My best guess: You're running unstable and you accidentally upgraded
something tar depends on but doesn't have a Depends on)


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Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
Hi,
My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas
where I can find such info?
 

Any external will do.
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Re: installing error

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Stefan O'Rear wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 03:39:21PM -0400, Abdool wrote:
 

hi,
While installing the "base system" in Debian, I get the error message, file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.4_1386.deb was corrupt.
Couldn't download apt.
Please tell me what is to be done. I want to use dual boot with Win xp
thanks
Ron
   

Did you burn a CD to install Debian from? If so, try redownloading the
ISO file...
 

Better check the md5 sums first. Downloading ISOs can take some time.
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Re: Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.
Is there a way to get around this?
 

Best to direct Qs about d-i to the boot-floppies list where all the d-i 
folk hang out. They will want to know about this.

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Re: GCC/G++ will not compile i686 binaries when asked.

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That may indeed be it. Is there any known way short of looking a the 
asm dump of a binary for telling what CPU instructions are used? When 
asked I was directed to readelf and file and they work great for 
SPARC based development, 

I wouldn't bet on that either:-)
Seems to me your observations may have confirmed your expectations. 
However, I don't feel like firing up my {,ultra}sparcs to do any testing 
atm.


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Re: OT: Questions or Doubts?

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Pigeon wrote:
It's either equivalent to "question" or "problem". I seem to have a
vague memory of someone asking a question in a non-English language,
being told this is an English list, and coming back with a
translation, which confirmed this. I might be remembering wrong though.
 

I doubt you are correct.
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I don't care

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Wayne Topa wrote:
Now all you have to do John if get them to fix the To: & Cc: problem.
From: John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 23:38:35 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Borked e-mail threading [Was Re: HylaFax receives rubbish]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5 (X11/20040306)
 

It's the list management software, and I don't care. I think someone 
said that Debian plans to change LMS so I don't care.

Changing the LMS will probably fix the problem and I don't care:-)
I've munged the thread, the notion put a smile on the dial and I dont care.

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Re: Debian equivalent of /etc/profile.d

2004-08-26 Thread John Summerfield
Jeremy Brown wrote:
John Summerfield wrote:
X stuff exceptions are xterms and imitations which can be configured 
to run login shells.

I assume you get a login shell when you log in via GDM though, right?
I don't use GDM, but I think you don't (you didn't used to with KDE, but 
since I learnedto deal with it I don't know what happens now) for any DM.

All the terminal emulators I use can be configured to give a login 
shell; in some respects that's better.


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apt-get Seems To Have Gone South

2004-08-26 Thread Scarletdown
I need some help here.  Suddenly, I can no longer install anything via 
apt-get, segfaults out the wazoo.

Here is the output from my attempt to install the latest k3b...

apt-get install k3b
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:
  k3blibs libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt qt3-dev-tools
Suggested packages:
  toolame libqt3-mt-mysql libqt3-mt-odbc libqt3c102-mt-mysql
Recommended packages:
  vcdimager libqt3-dev
The following packages will be upgraded
  k3b k3blibs libqt3-headers libqt3-mt-dev libqt3c102-mt qt3-dev-tools
6 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 866 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/8003kB of archives.
After unpacking 568kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3-mt-dev_3%
3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3-headers_3%
3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/qt3-dev-tools_3%
3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3c102-mt_3%
3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error 
processing /var/cache/apt/archives/k3blibs_0.11.14-1_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
dpkg-deb: subprocess tar killed by signal (Segmentation fault)
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/k3b_0.11.14-1_i386.deb 
(--unpack):
 subprocess dpkg-deb --control returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3-mt-dev_3%3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3-headers_3%3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/qt3-dev-tools_3%3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libqt3c102-mt_3%3a3.3.3-4_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/k3blibs_0.11.14-1_i386.deb
 /var/cache/apt/archives/k3b_0.11.14-1_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I get similar errors no matter what I try to install.

How can I fix this?



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Re: Software RAID using Sarge Installer

2004-08-26 Thread Lucas Albers

Paul Gear said:

> The last time i tried, the installer didn't support installing to RAID /
> or /boot, and this was a topic of some discussion on this list, since
> some people think that the new installer is perfect and to think that
> other people want it to support more features is just shocking! :-)
>
> I used the HOWTO at http://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ to
> convert my system to RAID 1 after the install, and it worked well.  I
> chose the 2nd path, which was GRUB & initrd (lilo didn't work for me for
> some reason).
or
http://rootraiddoc.alioth.debian.org
I'm surprised lilo did not work, as the lilo install has been tested a lot
more then the grub install, but good to hear grub worked.

Theoretically you can install to raid from the installer, if you load raid.
I wrote that rootraiddoc and I'm not sure of the steps to install directly
from the sarge installer onto a raid system.
If anyone from the installer team has better directions or a definitive
answer on whether you can install to raid from the installer, then let me
know, and I will update the document.

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Re: the Packages files should get to mirrors last -- no swarthy emails

2004-08-26 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 19:14, Dan Jacobson wrote:

> Or block your user from sending in the first place. I suppose we see
> .net .com .org are not safe to send to as there is no assurance
> anymore that a reply might not come from a bad country and not the
> United States.

And according to a study by CipherTrust, over 85% of spam is originating
from the United States. Guess I'll be saying my goodbyes to a few
people. :)




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kernel-image 2.6.8 sound config issues

2004-08-26 Thread Lance Hoffmeyer
Trying to figure out kind of sound I am using with kernel-image
2.6.8 from Sarge.  I downloaded the packages to get lgeneral to
play sound.  mplayer will play vorbis files but ogg123 will not.
I don't get sound from realplay.  Here is a list of sound drivers
loaded:

Looks like maybe I need a config file or something?? Where is it?
What do I need to do to get a little more consistent sound working?
Is OSS installed or ALSA?  I would prefer ALSA.

snd_seq_oss36416  0
snd_seq_midi_event  8576  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq58576  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_intel8x0   37420  0
snd_ac97_codec 70660  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm   101892  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_timer  27460  2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 12168  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
gameport5376  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_mpu401_uart 8896  1 snd_intel8x0
snd_rawmidi26468  1 snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  8712  3 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi
snd60132  13 
snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device


$cat /proc/asound/devices
  1:   : sequencer
 33:   : timer

$cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.4 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux Gandhi 2.6.8-1-k7-smp #1 SMP Mon Aug 16 04:24:29 EDT 2004 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
--- no soundcards ---

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
Timers:
7: system timer
Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG


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Re: Bounce detection

2004-08-26 Thread Alan Chandler
On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:30, Jacob Friis Larsen wrote:
> Is there a Debian package that can detect which mails are bounces?
>

Doesn't every MTA?  Otherwise you would get bounce loops.

A bounce should be to a single mail address with a null sender address.

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Re: Error upgrading KOrganizer

2004-08-26 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 20:09, Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:21:53PM +, Dave Bokan wrote:
> > Hello,

> I answered this yesterday. You clearly have no ability to check the BTS.
> Please read here, and follow the subsequent threads:
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg03770.html

And not only that, the KDE 3.3 packages are still the RC, not final.
What's the harm in waiting for the actual release?




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Re: File permissions? Poss OT-SOLVED

2004-08-26 Thread John Fleming
There was an Alias of /images to /usr/share/images in httpd.conf.  This must
not be there by default in the unstable distro.  Thanks Jacob.  - John



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Re: ndiswrapper/Sarge Newbie - link

2004-08-26 Thread Roger Creasy
Roger Creasy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
hi ya rogerOn Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Carl Fink wrote:> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 05:56:41PM -0700, Roger Creasy wrote:> > > I have the cd set for Sarge. Where to I find the sources for the> > kernel? Do I merely copy them to the directory in the error? Or are> > there other steps? How do I "link /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/build to> > it"?assuming you have a kernel source or just kernel headers in/usr/local/src/linux-2.6.7-1 ( or whatever its called )cd /lib/modules/2.6.7-1/ln -s ../../../usr/local/src/linux-2.6.7-1 build2.6.7-1 must match exactly> You "apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.7". Possibly you follow that> with "apt-get install kernel-patch-2.6.7". Then you ungzip and untar> the archives that will be installed in /usr/src.OK. I did this and
 verified that blah/build is linked to the kernel-source folder. I still get the same errorDoes the link need to point to a file or folder within the folder that the source was untared to? 
More help?
 
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OK. I found a possible problem. The makefile in ndiswrapper folder cd's to
blah/ndiswrapper-0.10/drivers then runs make again. the makefile in this folder calls /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/include/version.h,  which does not exist. the folder is there, but not the file. Could this be my7 problem? Should version.h be there?
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Re: the Packages files should get to mirrors last -- no swarthy emails

2004-08-26 Thread Dan Jacobson
The problem is an ursine.ca user reads the debian-user list and sees a
message by from a jidanni.org user and sends an offlist comment
directly to that jidanni.org user.  When the jidanni.org user tries to
email a response back to the ursine.ca user. His mail is blocked,
greatly disturbing the jidanni.org user who has just taken the trouble
to reply, because his email country of origin has been determined to
not be up to par.

So we learn that all .org's aren't all in the land of the upstanding
countries.

And my mail was even solicited, not unsolicited.
I was not just sending mail on a whim, but hitting the R key to mail
that was sent to me and no one else.

So keep better track of who you guys email, they may want the
privilege of replying with out submitting an application.

Or block your user from sending in the first place. I suppose we see
.net .com .org are not safe to send to as there is no assurance
anymore that a reply might not come from a bad country and not the
United States.


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Re: Error upgrading KOrganizer

2004-08-26 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:21:53PM +, Dave Bokan wrote:
> Hello,

I answered this yesterday. You clearly have no ability to check the BTS.
Please read here, and follow the subsequent threads:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/08/msg03770.html

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Re: Debian equivalent of /etc/profile.d

2004-08-26 Thread Jeremy Brown
John Summerfield wrote:
X stuff exceptions are xterms and imitations which can be configured 
to run login shells.

I assume you get a login shell when you log in via GDM though, right?
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Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Steve Mandelmore
Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
> winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
> checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
> with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
> drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete.

Hi, I switched from a Lucent LT Winmodem to a hardware modem just recently. 
The Winmodem worked fine for the 2.4.26 kernel (Debian Sarge) using a
package downloaded from:

http://www.sfu.ca/~cth/ltmodem/dists/debian/8.31a3/

But I couldn't get it to work with a 2.6 kernel (it's more work, but I hear
it's possible).  So I gave up and bought a hardware modem (internal PCI). 
The one I'm using now is a U.S.Robotics 56K Performance Pro modem, model
5610b.  You can find this modem everywhere (at least where I live): Fry's,
CompUSA, the better local computer stores.  No special driver is needed,
just the basic serial driver will run it.

But it wasn't just "pop it in and go".  It showed up at ttyS14, which didn't
even exist in /dev.  After creating ttyS14 and setting up symlinks,
configuring /etc/ppp/options, and disabling eth0 ... it worked.  In fact,
it works GREAT.  Right away, I got faster connection speeds.  The pathetic
Winmodem rarely achieved connections over 32 kbps.  The new hardware modem
often connects at 42+ kbps.  It's not broadband (LOL), but hey, it's an
improvement.

Good luck, hope you find something that works.


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Re: Trying to build agpgart.o with an rpm from Intel

2004-08-26 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi Eric,

> And I'm having no luck.  Nothing seems to be where the
> rpm wants it to be.  Is there anything I can do to
> make this rpm work?

Why would you need an RPM?  The agpgart module should be included with
any Debian kernel 2.4 package available in woody, sarge or sid (with the
possible exception of the woody boot-floppies kernel).

$ dpkg -S agpgart.o
kernel-image-2.4.26-1-k7:
/lib/modules/2.4.26-1-k7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o
kernel-image-2.4.27-1-k7:
/lib/modules/2.4.27-1-k7/kernel/drivers/char/agp/agpgart.o

What happens if you just run "modprobe agpgart" as root?

Now, I'm not sure whether the XFree86 in woody is new enough to
recognize current i810 boards, but maybe you can try sarge or sid.

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Error upgrading KOrganizer

2004-08-26 Thread Dave Bokan
Hello,
I'm running Sarge and I'm trying to get KDE 3.3 but I ran into a problem. 
When updating KDE I run into this...

Unpacking korganizer (from .../korganizer_4%3a3.2.2-2_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing 
/var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a3.2.2-2_i386.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/apps/knewstuff/types', which is also in 
package kdelibs-data
dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/korganizer_4%3a3.2.2-2_i386.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

And KDE is broken now...I can still use Gnome though. I've tried forcing the 
install to no avail. Anyone know what this means?

Thanks,
David Bokan
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2004-08-26 Thread Bang Gang
Title: Amazing






 



Joke Of The Day

There was a woman who wanted to repaint her house, so she called the contractor 
and set an appointment to meet with him. When the contractor came to her house 
they did a walk-through and he asked her what colors she would like. They came 
to the living room and she told him that she would like a nice, warm cream color. 
The contractor wrote something down on his pad, then walked to the window and 
yelled, "Greenside up."

The lady is a little confused, but doesn't say anything, and they continue to 
the dining room where she tells him, "I would like a nice warm white in here, 
nothing stark." The contractor writes something down on his pad, then walks 
to the window and again yells, "Greenside up!" The lady is really confused 
now but still does not say anything. They continue to her bedroom and she says, 
"I would like a nice, cool, relaxing blue in here."
The contractor writes something on his pad and again walks to the window and 
yells, "Greenside up." The woman is now totally perplexed and says to the 
contractor, "Three times I have told you the color that I want, and you write 
something on your pad, then you walk to the window and yell greenside up. What 
is going on?" The contractor replies, "You see, I have four blondes laying 
sod across the street." 












Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Tim Kelley
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:24:28AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
> winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
> checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
> with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
> drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas
> where I can find such info?

Any "hardware" modem will work fine; which includes by neccessity all
external modems.  Such a modem will only require the OS to have a
serial driver, which linux has.

So just get an external or buy an old one.  ebay probably has plenty
of them dirt cheap.  Multitech and Zyxel are the most well respected
brands.

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Re: OT: Questions or Doubts?

2004-08-26 Thread Pigeon
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 11:04:21PM -0500, Kent West wrote:
> Hopefully this won't offend anyone; I'm just curious.
> 
> I often see posts on this list with subject lines like:
> 
>  Doubt about Debian Installation
> 
> or
> 
>  Configuring PS/2 Mouse Doubts
> 
> Is this word "doubt" a non-American-English-speaker's word for 
> "question"? And if so, in that person's language, is "doubt" equivalent 
> to "question", or is it just that they don't understand the use of the word?

It's either equivalent to "question" or "problem". I seem to have a
vague memory of someone asking a question in a non-English language,
being told this is an English list, and coming back with a
translation, which confirmed this. I might be remembering wrong though.

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Re: Known file-sharing client

2004-08-26 Thread Tarapia Tapioco
You wrote:

> Hey
> Does anyone know a good filesharing program for linux besides xmule? 
> greets dirk

Both available as Debian packages:
mutella
gtk-gnutella


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Re: /usr/bin/editor missing: update-alternatives problem?

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 02:35:36PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> Somehow /usr/bin/editor got deleted, and this is causing problems
> upgrading many of my editors.
> 
> I first saw this with vim
> (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=267095) a week ago,
> but it's since bit me with many others (I track testing).
> 
> I suspect this has something to do with the fact that, in an effort to
> make emacs my default text editor, I pointed editor at
> /etc/alternatives/emacs (rather than a "real" binary):
> # update-alternatives --display editor
> editor - status is auto.
>  link currently points to /etc/alternatives/emacs
> /usr/bin/emacs21 - priority 0
> /bin/ed - priority -100
>  slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz
> /usr/bin/nvi - priority 19
>  slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/nvi.1.gz
> /usr/bin/vim - priority 120
>  slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
> /bin/nano - priority 40
>  slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/nano.1.gz
> /etc/alternatives/emacs - priority 150
>  slave editor.1.gz: /etc/alternatives/emacs.1.gz
> Current `best' version is /etc/alternatives/emacs.
> 
> (That was from before /usr/bin/editor vanished, though I see about the
> same output now).
> 
> I suspect the real problem is not vim, but either that I have used
> update-alternatives improperly, or that it has a bug.
> 
> Can anyone shed any light on this, or even on whether I should reassign
> the bug elsewhere (dpkg?)?

Which /usr/bin/editor?

~/linux-2.6.0/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx %% ls -l /usr/bin/editor /etc/alternatives/editor
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   12 Oct  4  2003 /etc/alternatives/editor -> 
/usr/bin/vim
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   24 Aug  2  2003 /usr/bin/editor -> 
/etc/alternatives/editor
~/linux-2.6.0/drivers/scsi/aic7xxx %% 

Which of those two files is missing? The second you can recreate easily:

ln -s /etc/alternatives/editor /usr/bin/editor

The first you could probably do:

update-alternatives --auto editor

Did you say you pointed /usr/bin/editor at /etc/alternatives/emacs?
Don't do that. Instead, restore the link to /etc/alternatives/editor,
and:

update-alternatives --config editor

Select emacs from the list.

(Warning: I am an emacs-hater, I may have subconsiously sabotaged the
directions...)


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[playergiro@gmail.com: php4-curl]

2004-08-26 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
Debian-user, this is a misdirected user question for you.

Please don't Cc me, nor wnpp, but do Cc the original question asker:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(see m-f-t)

Thanks,
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:58:34 -0500
From: Geoffrey Plitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: php4-curl
Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Found your email on usenet. I need to install php4-curl but I am
getting the following error from apt:

$ sudo apt-get install php4-curl
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
 php4-curl: Depends: libcurl2 (>= 7.11.1-1) but 7.11.1-0wup1 is to be installed
E: Sorry, broken packages

obviously I have a sources.list problem. here is my sources.list:
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ woody db4.2 subversion
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian woody main
deb http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sdier/debian updates/wup/
deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian stable contrib

any idea what the correct sources.list is?


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Re: ndiswrapper/Sarge Newbie - link

2004-08-26 Thread Roger Creasy
Alvin Oga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hi ya rogerOn Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Carl Fink wrote:> On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 05:56:41PM -0700, Roger Creasy wrote:> > > I have the cd set for Sarge. Where to I find the sources for the> > kernel? Do I merely copy them to the directory in the error? Or are> > there other steps? How do I "link /lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/build to> > it"?assuming you have a kernel source or just kernel headers in/usr/local/src/linux-2.6.7-1 ( or whatever its called )cd /lib/modules/2.6.7-1/ln -s ../../../usr/local/src/linux-2.6.7-1 build2.6.7-1 must match exactly> You "apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.7". Possibly you follow that> with "apt-get install kernel-patch-2.6.7". Then you ungzip and untar> the archives that will be installed in /usr/src.OK. I did this and
 verified that blah/build is linked to the kernel-source folder. I still get the same errorDoes the link need to point to a file or folder within the folder that the source was untared to?
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/usr/bin/editor missing: update-alternatives problem?

2004-08-26 Thread Ross Boylan
Somehow /usr/bin/editor got deleted, and this is causing problems
upgrading many of my editors.

I first saw this with vim
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=267095) a week ago,
but it's since bit me with many others (I track testing).

I suspect this has something to do with the fact that, in an effort to
make emacs my default text editor, I pointed editor at
/etc/alternatives/emacs (rather than a "real" binary):
# update-alternatives --display editor
editor - status is auto.
 link currently points to /etc/alternatives/emacs
/usr/bin/emacs21 - priority 0
/bin/ed - priority -100
 slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/ed.1.gz
/usr/bin/nvi - priority 19
 slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/nvi.1.gz
/usr/bin/vim - priority 120
 slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/vim.1.gz
/bin/nano - priority 40
 slave editor.1.gz: /usr/share/man/man1/nano.1.gz
/etc/alternatives/emacs - priority 150
 slave editor.1.gz: /etc/alternatives/emacs.1.gz
Current `best' version is /etc/alternatives/emacs.

(That was from before /usr/bin/editor vanished, though I see about the
same output now).

I suspect the real problem is not vim, but either that I have used
update-alternatives improperly, or that it has a bug.

Can anyone shed any light on this, or even on whether I should reassign
the bug elsewhere (dpkg?)?

Thanks
Ross Boylan

P.S. If you could cc this address that would be great, as I am
subscribed through a different one.



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pcmcia-cs or hotplug?

2004-08-26 Thread Stephen Patterson
I've got sarge on a laptop with a pcmcia network card, all configured
using pcmcia-cs and working just fine. An aptitude upgrade since then has
pulled in hotplug, so I've now got a system with pcmcia-cs and
hotplug.  

I'm just wondering which of these is considere the 'official' way to
sort out pcmcia?

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Re: fine-tuning du -h ?

2004-08-26 Thread Josef Oswald
Tim Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:06:45PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:
>
>> Sorry I was not clear here, I want to check more then _one_ directory,
>> at once:
>
> try 
>
> du -csm /home/*

Thanks :-) _that_ is what i was after. 

du -csmh /* told me what I wanted to know in human-readable form. 

>
> and note the difference leaving the wildcard off the end makes.

noted :-) 
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Re: icecast

2004-08-26 Thread Marco van Putten
Hey Steven,
Steven Jones schreef:
I am looking to stream some of my own music, looks like icecast is a
good candidate.
can anyone offer/suggest?,
1) Good URLs for documentation?
2) Alternative applications for a Debian based box, if they are easier
to do?
 

You could also use mod_mp3.
In debian it's called libapache-mod-mp3
If you point it to a dir where your music is at, it will play everything 
in it inclusive subdirs.
You can let it either play from a to b , randomly or using a playlist.

http://tangent.org/
http://cvs.tangent.org/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/mod_mp3/faq.html?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/html
regards
Thing
 

Good luck,
Marco.
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Re: ide-scsi emulation deprecated

2004-08-26 Thread csj
On 26. August 2004 at 1:26PM -0400,
Antonio Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:52:05AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> > Rob Benton wrote:
> > 
> > >OK I may be slow, but I just noticed in my boot messages the other day 
> > >that in the 2.6 kernels ide-scsi emulation is deprecated.  
> > >Unfortunately the version of cdrecord I have (from testing) doesn't 
> > >agree.  Has anybody had any success getting cdrecord to work with an 
> > >IDE target like, dev=/dev/hdc ?
> > >
> 
> should work, but it is better to write
> 
> cdrecord dev=ATAPI:0,1,0 etc

cdrecord dev=ATA:1,1,0 etc

gets you dma.


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Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Fernando
Hi, i've got a conceptronic serie, work perfect and its cheap. Now
serial modem its hard find it in the computer shop, but look them and
you will find it ;).

El jue, 26-08-2004 a las 22:24, Rakhesh Sasidharan escribió:
> Hi,
> 
> My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
> winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
> checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
> with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
> drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas
> where I can find such info?
> 
> Thanks,
> Rakhesh
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Re: Procmail setup problem

2004-08-26 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Thanks Michael, 

I have miss the sentence "Conditions are anded"now I kow ;)

Lorenzo

Il gio, 2004-08-26 alle 21:45, Michael Marsh ha scritto:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 19:03:56 +0200, Lorenzo Rossi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i was trying to setup procmail to store incoming e-mails to different
> > files in my home directory, but, procmail write all my incoming emails
> > to the same file, the "mbox" file.
> > I can not understand why?
> > 
> > My procmail config file look like so:
> [...]
> > :0:
> > * ^To:.*debian-user
> > *  Cc:.*debian-user
> > ${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> [...]
>  
> > procmail: Match on "^To:.*debian-user"
> > procmail: No match on "Cc:.*debian-user"
> [...]
> > Any ideas??
> 
> >From the procmailrc manpage: "Conditions are anded"
> 
> Split that into two rules, one for To and one for CC, and you'll be
> fine.  Actually, what
> would be even better is:
> 
> :0:
> * ^TO_debian-user
> ${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> 
> That'll catch To, Cc, Bcc, and a bunch of others.
> 
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Re: Procmail setup problem

2004-08-26 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Stephen,


Il gio, 2004-08-26 alle 21:47, s. keeling ha scritto:
> Incoming from Lorenzo Rossi:
> > 
> > i was trying to setup procmail to store incoming e-mails to different
> > files in my home directory, but, procmail write all my incoming emails
> > to the same file, the "mbox" file.
> > I can not understand why?
> > 
> > PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
> > MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail  
> > DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
> > LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/Procmail_log_from
> > LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
> > 
> > :0: # Anything from Bugtraq
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > bugtraq
> > 
> > :0:
> > * ^To:.*debian-user
> > *  Cc:.*debian-user
> > ${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> 
> It matched the first, then didn't match the second.  They cancel out.
> You're also missing the "^" on the Cc: line.
I know..I'm wrong... :)

> Solution to this is scoring:
> 
> :0:
> * 1^0 ^To:.*debian-user
> * 1^0 ^Cc:.*debian-user
> ${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> 

What does it meen * 1^0 ^To:.*debian-user ??
^^^
I'm a newb...

> You don't need "${HOME}/Mail/"; all targets are relative to MAILDIR.
> 
Yes, now I undertood..
I expanded all path because I would like to be sure avoid all possible
errors...
> procmail has a macro you can use instead of both of those: ^TO should
> match "debian-user" when in To: or Cc: (man procmailrc, then "/ MISC").
> 
I go to study! ;)
> 
> > procmail: Unlocking "/home/milos94/.lockmail"
> > procmail: [20786] Thu Aug 26 18:41:11 2004
> > procmail: Assigning "LOGABSTRACT=all"
> > procmail: No match on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > procmail: No match on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > procmail: No match on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> > procmail: No match on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]# Anything from
> > namp-hacker"
> > procmail: No match on "[EMAIL PROTECTED]  # Anything from
> > rsbac"
> > procmail: Match on "^To:.*debian-user"
> ^^^
> > procmail: No match on "Cc:.*debian-user"
> ^
> 
> I'm susbscribed to multiple debian-* lists.  This separates them all
> out into separate folders:
> 
> # 
> # debian-${MATCH}
> #
> # [EMAIL PROTECTED]  The match operator ("\/") matches whatever the regexp that
> # follows it matches.  Possible values are "debian-user", "debian-boot",
> # ...
> #
> :0
> * ^X\-Mailing\-List:.*debian-\/[a-z-]*
> {
>   LOG="debian-${MATCH} - "
>   :0:
>   IN.debian-${MATCH}
> }
> 
> 
Wow very powerfull! I like it...:)

You give me a lots of suggestions...
Do you think my problems are mainly related to the configurations of
rules?


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thanks from a newb..
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Re: File permissions? Poss OT

2004-08-26 Thread Jacob S.
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 14:41:00 -0500
"John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 12:01:21 -0500
> "John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
[snip - problem with images not displaying on user's website]
> 
> > Have you checked the error logs for apache? They usually provide
> > more  info about where it's looking for the file when it says not
> > found, etc.
> 
> =
> Thanks, that helps, but I still don't understand.  Apache log has a
> bunch of errors because it's looking for the images in
> /usr/share/images instead of/home/username/www/images.  The URLs
> however, point to the user's/www/images directory.  What would make it
> want to look in/usr/share/images??

Just a guess, but is he using relative or absolute paths to the images?
/usr/share/images sounds like a common apache alias for things like the
images displayed next to different file types for directory listings
when there's no index.html file.

Depending on how that alias is setup and how he's referencing his own
images directory in his img tags, that could make apache look in
/usr/share/images instead of his own images subdir. The easiest way to
test this would probably be looking for all images aliases in your
apache config file, commenting them out and then restarting apache.

HTH,
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Re: Procmail setup problem

2004-08-26 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Lorenzo Rossi:
> 
> Il gio, 2004-08-26 alle 21:47, s. keeling ha scritto:
> 
> > Solution to this is scoring:
> > 
> > :0:
> > * 1^0 ^To:.*debian-user
> > * 1^0 ^Cc:.*debian-user
> > ${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> > 
> 
> What does it meen * 1^0 ^To:.*debian-user ??
> ^^^
> I'm a newb...

You say that like it's a bad thing.  :-)

Recipes start out with a negative score.  Generic patterns that match
add "1" to that score.  Once the score goes positive, the action
clause is executed.  So, for the above, a match on either triggers the
action (a non-match has no effect).  "man procmailsc" explains this.
If you want the action to trigger when both match, you can "seed" the
score:

:0:
* -2^0
* 1^0 ^To:.*debian-user
* 1^0 ^Cc:.*debian-user
debian-user

That "-2^0" will set the beginning score to -2.

> > I'm susbscribed to multiple debian-* lists.  This separates them all
> > out into separate folders:
> > 
> > # 
> > # debian-${MATCH}
> 
> Wow very powerfull! I like it...:)
> 
> You give me a lots of suggestions...
> Do you think my problems are mainly related to the configurations of
> rules?

I ran into a lot of problems when I began.  Multiple readings of "man
procmail*" helped a lot.  There's also the procmail-users mailing
list.  Go read through their archives if you can't afford to
subscribe.  There's many _very_ good websites out there to help you
with lots of examples.  Timo Salmi's is pretty helpful when you're new
to this.  So is Nancy McGough's (sp?).  If you read Usenet newsgroups,
comp.mail.misc is the place to go.

One suggestion you should take as gospel: make a copy, THEN change
your recipe.  It can be fairly difficult to figure out what's going on
when a recipe fails spectacularly.  If you've a backup, you can avoid
that problem.


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Re: installing error

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 03:39:21PM -0400, Abdool wrote:
> hi,
> While installing the "base system" in Debian, I get the error message, 
> file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.4_1386.deb was corrupt.
> Couldn't download apt.
> Please tell me what is to be done. I want to use dual boot with Win xp
> thanks
> Ron

Did you burn a CD to install Debian from? If so, try redownloading the
ISO file...


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Re: Procmail setup problem

2004-08-26 Thread Lorenzo Rossi
Magnus,

Il gio, 2004-08-26 alle 21:39, Magnus Therning ha scritto:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 07:03:56PM +0200, Lorenzo Rossi wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >i was trying to setup procmail to store incoming e-mails to different
> >files in my home directory, but, procmail write all my incoming emails
> >to the same file, the "mbox" file.  I can not understand why?
> >
> >
> >My procmail config file look like so:
> >
> >--
> >
> >PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
> >MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail  
> >DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox
> >LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/Procmail_log_from
> >LOCKFILE=$HOME/.lockmail
> >
> >
> >cut
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >:0: # Anything from Bugtraq
> >* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >bugtraq
> 
> I don't think that's a very good recipe, I'd change it to
> 
>  * ^To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
ok, thk for the suggestion, I go to modify the config file...I'm a newb
of regex :)

> Or even better, use TO_:
> 
>  * [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I go to study the meeningof "To_"

> >
> >
> >cut
> >
> >
> >:0:
> >* ^To:.*debian-user
> >*  Cc:.*debian-user
> >${HOME}/Mail/debian-user
> 
> This will only match mails that have debian-user in *both* To and Cc.
> you might have more luck with
> 
>  * ^To:.debian-user|\
>^Cc:.debian-user
> 

Yes, you have reason, I did not put the logical OR beetween the 2
lines...:)

> >Any ideas??
> 
> I personally don't rely on To: TO_ or TO for my mailing list sorting.
> Most mailing lists add headers to all mails that pass through them, I've
> found it's much more reliable to use those for sorting. E.g. the
> following sorts debian-user:
> 
>  :0 :
>  * ^List-Id:.* 
>  list.debian-user/
> 
> Hope it helps.
> 
> /M
Magnus, you help me very mutch, you tech me the syntax..
Now I go to modify the procmailrc config file, writing better rules with
your advices ;)

Lorenzo


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Re: I need help with my touch pad.

2004-08-26 Thread Thomas Adam
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 03:30:22PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> if [ -f /usr/bin/tpconfig ]; then
>   /usr/bin/tpconfig --tapmode=0
>   if [ $? ]; then
^^^
That doesn't do what you think it does. In Bash, the [ $? ] bit says "if the
variable requested is not empty, then..". You need to test for it
regardless, so something like:

[ "$?" = 0 ] && echo "worked" || echo "Failed"

Although how this is meant to fix your initial problem is unclear.

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installing error

2004-08-26 Thread Abdool



hi,
While installing the "base system" in Debian, I get 
the error message, file:/instmnt/pool/main/a/apt/apt_0.5.4_1386.deb was 
corrupt.
Couldn't download apt.
Please tell me what is to be done. I want to use 
dual boot with Win xp
thanks
Ron
 


Re: Can't open default sound device during boot... works fine after boot

2004-08-26 Thread Pottinger, Hardy J.
> The sound card has the standard Debian permissions, and all 
> users, including root, have been added to the audio group, so 
> that part checks out.

Answering my own e-mail here, I ran this by a buddy, and he scratched
his head, said dunno, and that it still sounded like a permissions
problem. Grasping at straws, I decided what the heck, just chmod 666 all
the sound stuff in /dev. Wouldn't you know, it worked. Don't know why,
and having 666 permissions on anything bugs me, but the box is behind a
firewall, and we're only talking soundcards here...

Anyway, would anyone out there have any idea why a server loaded up from
/etc/rc3.d/ would not run as root, if it's not specifically running as
another user? I'm just curious at this point...

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I need help with my touch pad.

2004-08-26 Thread Peter_TenEyck

Greetings,

I have just installed "Sarge" on my Toshiba notebook A15-S157. I believe this notebook has a ALPS Glidepad. I would like to disable touch pad "clicking". From what I can tell, this can do this by using tpconfig. I have installed this package tpconfig (3.1.3-5) from debian.

I can not seem to get this working. When I run dpkg-reconfigure tpconfig and set the options = --tapmode=0 and restart my system tapping in still working.

I have also tried running the below script as a replacement to the tpconfig script and get the "Command found and failed" at start up. I do not understand why this script is even needed. Why does dpkg-reconfigure tpconfig not work? If the script is needed what am I doing wrong? I need some help on this. Peter

#!/bin/sh
# touchpad
# description: Startup script to disable touchpad tapping
# For Synaptics or ALPS touchpads.
#
# $Log$
#
# $Id$
#
#


if [ -f /usr/bin/tpconfig ]; then
  /usr/bin/tpconfig --tapmode=0
  if [ $? ]; then
    echo "Command found and failed"        
  else
    echo "Command found and worked"
  fi
else
  echo "Command not found"
fi
echo ""
exit 0


Peter

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Re: ahc_dv_0

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 11:21:30PM +0200, Luis Fernando Llana D?az wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I am trying to install a 2.6.7 kernel with swsusp, the sources are obtained 
> from the Debian repository. The kernel is running correctly until I try to 
> suspend it: it says that cannot stop process ahc_dv_0
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -elf | grep ahc
> 1 R root   510 1 21  85   0 - 0 -  20:09 ?00:41:16 
> [ahc_dv_0]
> 
> In fact, if I try to kill that process it does not die:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# kill -9 510
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -elf | grep ahc
> 1 S root   510 1 22  85   0 - 0 need_r 20:09 ?00:43:35 
> [ahc_dv_0]
> 
> 
> Does any body knows what is that process for? who launches it? and finally, 
> why cannot be stopped?

Well, looks like it's NOT a process, but rather a kernel thread.

Looking at the PPID, it is either launched by init, or (much more
likely) an orphan child of an insmod.

(Actually there is another possibily - youre system ran out of RAM and
swapped the entire process out. But the fact that it ate a SIGKILL makes
me think it's a kernel thread.)

Looking at the kernel source, it was spawned by your Adaptec AIC7xxx
driver. If you don't HAVE an Adaptec AIC7xxx, try rmmod'ing it. If you,
try rmmod'ing it. (if you have one an can't remove the driver, you might
need to get a different SCSI card.)


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Serial console installs?

2004-08-26 Thread debian
I'm trying to install Sarge over the net (booting netinstall via pxe).
I can only connect to it via serial console.. When it boots up into
serial console, it seems to try sending VGA data to the serial port.

Is there a way to get around this?


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Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 12:24:28AM +0400, Rakhesh Sasidharan wrote:

> My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
> winmodems) ...

Did you check linmodems.org?

Almost any external modem will work.
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ahc_dv_0

2004-08-26 Thread Luis Fernando Llana Díaz
Hi all,
  I am trying to install a 2.6.7 kernel with swsusp, the sources are obtained 
from the Debian repository. The kernel is running correctly until I try to 
suspend it: it says that cannot stop process ahc_dv_0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -elf | grep ahc
1 R root   510 1 21  85   0 - 0 -  20:09 ?00:41:16 
[ahc_dv_0]

In fact, if I try to kill that process it does not die:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# kill -9 510
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ps -elf | grep ahc
1 S root   510 1 22  85   0 - 0 need_r 20:09 ?00:43:35 
[ahc_dv_0]


Does any body knows what is that process for? who launches it? and finally, 
why cannot be stopped?

Luis.

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RE: icecast

2004-08-26 Thread Steven Jones
neat.

Steven

-Original Message-
From: Marco van Putten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 27 August 2004 8:51 a.m.
To: Steven Jones
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: icecast


Hey Steven,

Steven Jones schreef:

>I am looking to stream some of my own music, looks like icecast is a
>good candidate.
>
>can anyone offer/suggest?,
>
>1) Good URLs for documentation?
>2) Alternative applications for a Debian based box, if they are easier
>to do?
>  
>

You could also use mod_mp3.
In debian it's called libapache-mod-mp3
If you point it to a dir where your music is at, it will play everything 
in it inclusive subdirs.
You can let it either play from a to b , randomly or using a playlist.

http://tangent.org/
http://cvs.tangent.org/cgi/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/mod_mp3/faq.html?rev=HEAD&content-type=text/html

>regards
>
>Thing
>
>  
>

Good luck,
Marco.



Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Paul Johnson
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Rakhesh Sasidharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
> winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine.

If you really want a challenge, you can make it work.
http://www.linmodems.org/

> I checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
> with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
> drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any
> ideas where I can find such info?

Any external modem with an RS232 connector will work exceptionally
well.
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I still can't surf the web using Wvdial ...UPDATE

2004-08-26 Thread Johnny
Hi
Late last nite i reninstalled Debian-3.0r2-i386.  This time i watch very 
close what i was doing. Right now i can connect to the internet and surf 
the web by using pon to connect and poff to disconnect. I did install 
wvdial and tried to use it but just dial the isp and disconnects after a 
3 min. For now i am happy with pon and poff it works.

Thanks for the help
My next project is ax25 config
Johnny

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Re: Computers doesn't power off

2004-08-26 Thread Adam Funk
On Thursday 26 August 2004 16:00, Kent West wrote:

> I think it's a good learning process to be able to roll your own, but
> just to get standard hardware features to work, it's a bit overkill
> for the majority of new users coming into the GNU/Linux camp. (Still,
> as Loki says, it's a good thing to know how to do.)

I agree, and it's on my long-term to-do list, but I don't have time at
the moment.

> I think what Adam might want to do is to run "modconf", go down to the
> "kernel/drivers/acpi" section, and install any necessary features in
> that manner. (I think different versions of modconf look different, so
> if you're not running Sid you may have to search a bit in modconf to
> find the right stuff, but this should give you a start.)

Sounds good.  Does this modconf process just install a relevant module
and ensure it gets loaded?


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Re: Snort default config ?

2004-08-26 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 10:27:33AM -0500, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
> Installed snort the other day and I am getting daily reports
> from the default setup.  I did nothing but install.
> 
> So, is there anything I should/need do to this default config
> for simple monitoring or/and a bit of added security or  is 
> the default config adequate?
> 
> I know this is a loaded question but I am asking primarily 
> about any simple/no brainer type of added configs that a 
> simple user might want/need.

Depending on why you're using snort, if anything you may want to turn
quite a few rules off.  The default config alerts way too much ...

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Re: GCC/G++ will not compile i686 binaries when asked.

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:32:21PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> That may indeed be it. Is there any known way short of looking a the 
> asm dump of a binary for telling what CPU instructions are used? When 
> asked I was directed to readelf and file and they work great for 
> SPARC based development, so I had assumed them to be correct for pc 
> development as well.
> 
> Thanks in advance for the enlightenment.

Nope. Just wrote a tiny unoptimizable program (true clone), compile for
386 and PII, and they cmp the same...

I'd likely go for a pipeline, this works on my system:

objdump --disassemble -j.text testC | grep '^ ' | perl -pe 's/.{32}//; s/ .*//' | sort 
-u


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Re: Known file-sharing client

2004-08-26 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 15:31, Stephen Tait wrote:
> At 20:03 26/08/2004, you wrote:
> >Hey
> >Does anyone know a good filesharing program for linux besides xmule?
> >greets dirk
> 
> Depends what you're after...!
> 
> There are a zillion and one BitTorrent (the only P2P I use now anyway) 
> clients available for Linux. One of the most popular, Azareus, is java 
> based, and works fine under Linux and windows. WinMX will also run 
> perfectly happily under WINE, albeit with some rendering errors (although 
> we got these in windows as well ;)

In addition to Azureus for Bittorrent, which I also heartily recommend,
there is also giFT, which is a daemon that uses plugins to connect to
Gnutella, OpenFT, and FastTrack (Kazaa). You have a number of frontends
to choose from, but I would recommend Apollon.



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Re: Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Stephen Tait
At 21:24 26/08/2004, you wrote:
Hi,
My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas
where I can find such info?
Thanks,
Rakhesh
Google is your friend ;) 
http://www.google.com/search?num=25&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&c2coff=1&safe=off&q=linux+modem+compatibility&spell=1

I never went much for the concrete approach myself; when I first tried out 
Linux and found out my modem wasn't going to work, I went out and bought an 
external serial modem which worked straight outta the box on MDK 8.2. The 
second hand stores around here are also choc-full of second hand Hayes 
hardware modems that people traded in for their "faster" (read: more 
expensive) winmodems.

It's not very scientific (and probably incorrect as well), but my general 
rule of thumb was that if it looked old and was covered in big integrated 
circuits (rather than having very few chips on it at all) it would probably 
work in Linux. 

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Re: ide-scsi emulation deprecated

2004-08-26 Thread Eric
On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:40:06 +0200, Rob Benton wrote:

> OK I may be slow, but I just noticed in my boot messages the other day 
> that in the 2.6 kernels ide-scsi emulation is deprecated.  Unfortunately 
> the version of cdrecord I have (from testing) doesn't agree.  Has 
> anybody had any success getting cdrecord to work with an IDE target 
> like, dev=/dev/hdc ?

# cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATA
Cdrecord-Clone 2.01a34 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jorg
Schilling NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified)
release of cdrecord
  and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version.
  Please send bug reports and support requests to
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. The original author should not be
  bothered with problems of this version.

scsidev: 'ATA'
devname: 'ATA'
scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2
Warning: Using badly designed ATAPI via /dev/hd* interface.
Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
scsibus0:
0,0,0 0) *
0,1,0 1) 'PIONEER ' 'DVD-RW  DVR-107D' '1.05' Removable CD-ROM
0,2,0 2) *
0,3,0 3) *
0,4,0 4) *
0,5,0 5) *
0,6,0 6) *
0,7,0 7) *


In my case

cdrecord -dev=ATA:0,1,0

Is the corect way of addressing my DVD-RW that is on the ide bus.


There is also the ATAPI transport driver.

cdrecord -scanbus -dev=ATAPI

I also have an acual SCSI bus as well and for some reason it lists devices
on that as well. Try either one, but DO DUMMY WRITES to find out if your
going to get coasters, system crashes, or etc.



For the nasty political/technical/personal details about ide-scsi
emulation look below.

http://programming.linux.com/programming/03/12/09/1341236.shtml?tid=40&tid=91


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Re: fine-tuning du -h ?

2004-08-26 Thread Stefan O'Rear
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:00:17PM -0500, Tim Kelley wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:06:45PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:
> 
> > Sorry I was not clear here, I want to check more then _one_ directory,
> > at once:
> 
> try 
> 
> du -csm /home/*
> 
> and note the difference leaving the wildcard off the end makes.

You can also do:

du --max-depth=1 -cm /home

Read the info pages... they might be helpful...


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Modems for Linux?

2004-08-26 Thread Rakhesh Sasidharan
Hi,

My existing dialup modem does not have linux drivers (its one of those
winmodems), and so am planning on buying a new modem for my machine. I
checked around the net for a list of modems that are known to work
with linux (hardware modems preferred, if not winmodems that do have
drivers for linux) ... but couldn't find anything concrete. Any ideas
where I can find such info?

Thanks,
Rakhesh


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Re: GCC/G++ will not compile i686 binaries when asked.

2004-08-26 Thread dking
That may indeed be it. Is there any known way short of looking a the 
asm dump of a binary for telling what CPU instructions are used? When 
asked I was directed to readelf and file and they work great for 
SPARC based development, so I had assumed them to be correct for pc 
development as well.

Thanks in advance for the enlightenment.

On 25 Aug 2004 at 18:23, Stefan O'Rear wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 05:48:45PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > For the past few weeks I have been co-working on a private project. I
> > have done allot of work on it and I would hate to have to start over.
> > 
> > The makefile I created for this project explicitly tells the compiler
> > (g++) to compile the binary using i686 (-march=pentiumpro) assembly
> > instructions and internal timeings. Yet for some [explitive]
> > [explitive] reason it refuses to do so and both ?file? amd ?readelf?
> > tell me it always compiles for a bare i386 despite my explicit
> > commands otherwise.
> > 
> > Two questions:
> > Why the [explitive] does this [explitive] thing not compile the end
> > result into a i686 only binary as I asked it to?
> > How the [explitive] do I fix it?
> > 
> > I have read the gcc/g++ manual pages. I have googled. I have spent
> > the past hour dedicating myself to this problem, and nothing seems to
> > work.
> > 
> > This is [b]really[/b] getting to me. Please help.
> 
> C file:
> 
> int main(int argc) {
>   int sam = 0;
>   if (argc > 1) sam = argc;
>   return sam;
> }
> 
> Compile:
> 
> ~ %% gcc -o testC test.c -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro -O3
> 
> Dissassembly Excerpt:
> 
> 08048320 :
>  8048320:   55  push   %ebp
>  8048321:   31 c0   xor%eax,%eax
>  8048323:   89 e5   mov%esp,%ebp
>  8048325:   83 ec 08sub$0x8,%esp
>  8048328:   8b 4d 08mov0x8(%ebp),%ecx
>  804832b:   83 e4 f0and$0xfff0,%esp
>  804832e:   83 f9 02cmp$0x2,%ecx
>  8048331:   0f 4d c1cmovge %ecx,%eax
>  8048334:   89 ec   mov%ebp,%esp
>  8048336:   5d  pop%ebp
>  8048337:   c3  ret
> 
> See that cmovge - that's a Pentium ONLY insn.
> 
> And readelf says:
>   Machine:   Intel 80386
> 
> Is that ^^^ why you thing gcc won't make 686 programs?
> 
> 
> 1. A PPro exec is the same as a 386 exec except for the insns. ReadELF
>will tell you it's a 386 exec even if you have a PPro exec.
> 
> Please comment. If it doesn't have 686 asm and could benefit from it, we
> (atleast I) need more info.
> 
> P.S. I use woody with a GCC-3.3 from unstable and the ness. libs.
> 
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Re: fine-tuning du -h ?

2004-08-26 Thread Tim Kelley
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 04:06:45PM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote:

> Sorry I was not clear here, I want to check more then _one_ directory,
> at once:

try 

du -csm /home/*

and note the difference leaving the wildcard off the end makes.

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Re: I still can't surf the web using Wvdial ...UPDATE

2004-08-26 Thread Paul Johnson
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> For now i am happy with pon and poff it works.

If you have an external modem, you might want to set it up to
infinitely redail persistently.  Then, to connect, just turn on the
modem and wait a few seconds for the next time it tries to dial up.
To disconnect, shut off the modem.
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Re: smbmount w2k3 no write access

2004-08-26 Thread Jody
Using the syntax below did the trick; things seem to work better when
mount invokes smbmount instead of doing it manually. Thanks !!!
mount -t smbfs -o username=username,uid=username //downtown/sysback
 /mnt/smb/downtown

> Hi,
>
> go to /mnt directory anda verify who is the owner of smb subdirectory
> and what is the access permission to it.
> try it as root:
> cd /mnt
> chown -R username smb
> chmod -R 760 smb
> mount -t smbfs -o username=username,uid=username //downtown/sysback
> /mnt/smb/downtown
>
> mount will ask for username password.
> after sysback share mounted logon using username and try to access
> /mnt/smb/downtown
>
> Marcos Carneiro da Rocha
>
> On Thu, 2004-08-26 at 13:13, Wim De Smet wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:59:17 -0400, Jody Grafals
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Still not getting anywhere, the options gid uid umask seem to have
>> > no effect with smbmount and due to the way need to access w2k3
>> > shares. I have only been able to mount the drive using the command
>> > smbmount. I have not been able to get fstab or `mont -t smbfs` to
>> > pass the proper authentication to the w2k3 server.  I DO have write
>> > access as root. using the command
>> > #`smbmount //downtown/sysback /mnt/smb/downtown/ -o
>> > username=username/servername%'!password'`
>> > But I'm trying to get a regular user R/W access to a file on the
>> > W2k3 server. I have Quickbooks 2004 running under crossover and the
>> > quickbooks data file is on the w2k3 server. If I can't get the thing
>> > to mount the way I want it, Can I somehow give the user (myself)
>> > root access to this directory?
>> > [...]
>>
>> I'm thinking for mount it would go more like mount -t smbfs -o
>> username=...,password=... etc. I don't recognize the form in which you
>> give your password but this is how I mounted my stuff (with
>> username=none and empty password in my case)
>>
>> greets,
>> wim
>>
>
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