mplayerplug-in

[Erik Jakobsen]

Hi.
Are there an mplayerplug-in for debian, and what's the name ?.
Think its shall be installed with apt-get install ?
Erik Jakobsen
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Re: sarge, postfix and sasl problem

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 05:09:52 +0200 (CEST), Jean-Yves Boisiaud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hello,
> 
> I'm using Sarge with Postfix 2.1.4-5, SASL2 2.1.19-1.5 and
> kernel  2.4.27-1-686
> 
> When I do a telnet to the smtp server it exits immediatly, I have the log message :
> 
> Oct 21 04:59:27 proxy postfix/smtpd[16924]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms
> 

[...]

> 
> pwcheck_method: auxprop
> mech_list: plain login
> 
> Any idea ?
> 

I don't recall if Debian defaults to use PAM with sasl, anyway, seems
you're missing the authentication backend, i mean, if sasl needs to
use the sasldb or PAM or other to store/check username and password. I
think you need to add a "auxprop_plugin:
the_plugin_name_you_intend_to_use" line in your
/etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf.


Andrea


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Re: mplayerplug-in

[Michael Dominok]

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 09:08, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
> Are there an mplayerplug-in for debian, and what's the name ?.
Maybe 
mozilla-mplayer MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org
is of use?

Cheers

Michael

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Re: sarge and libc6-i686 (nptl)

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 20:19:10 -0700, John L Fjellstad
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I noticed that sarge has the libc optimized for i686 with the new thread
> library (nptl).  Has anyone tried it?  Is it safe to install (guessing
> the 'old' non-optimized libc gets removed if I do?).
> 

No, the 686 libs are installed on a different path.

> I really want to test out nptl, but I'd like to hear about other
> people's experience (in installation, usage etc).  From what I've
> gathered around the 'net, nptl is a big deal, so I'm a little hesitant
> in just jumping in the water without looking around first.
> 

It can break some programs, in the package description is mentioned
the IBM JDK and probably others. IMHO you'll see a benefit using the
new NPTL only if you have a very loaded big server. You can try it and
if something broke you can purge it. =)


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Re: Debian and Win XP

[Dominique Dumont]

Shane Clement <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Given that I need to know how to make a bootable Linux
> cdrom with ntfsresize on it.

Check out systemrescuecd. It's a live cd with ntfsresize.

http://www.sysresccd.org/

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Re: mplayerplug-in

[Erik Jakobsen]

Michael Dominok wrote:
Maybe
mozilla-mplayer MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla, Konqueror and OpenOffice.org
is of use?
Cheers
Michael
 

Hi Michael.
Thanks for the reply.
Can I install with apt-get  ?.
I have tested with apt-get install the_above-suggested_plug_ins
But apt-get did not found them.
Erik Jakobsen
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Re: How to run a program before logging out

[David Baron]

On Thursday 21 October 2004 00:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> Anybody knows if there is a way to execute some command(s) before logging
> out from a gnome session?

This is a reply to a similar post I made on the KDE list. I assume there may 
be something quite similar around gnome:

> How does one execute some scripts on logging out of a kde session?

If you want them run as root, have:

$KDEDIR/share/config/kdm/Xreset

script source them.

If you want them run as USER, have them sourced at the end of the:

$KDEDIR/bin/startkde

script.

Re: mplayerplug-in

[Michael Dominok]

Hi Erik,

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 09:50, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
> Can I install with apt-get  ?.
> 
> I have tested with apt-get install the_above-suggested_plug_ins
> But apt-get did not found them.
you could add

#backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable all
deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian stable all

or

deb http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sdier/debian updates/wup/

to your /etc/apt/sources.list.

Cheers

Michael

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Re: Not subscribed to list.

[Frederik Dannemare]

On Wednesday 20 October 2004 21:27, Patrick R. White wrote:
> Can anyone explain why the iso mirrors and hence the debian master
> site do not have md5sum's for the iso's individually or a combined
> MD5SUM for all iso's on a given URL?
>

Haven't bothered to check other mirrors, but on funet it's at  

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Upgrading to Sarge

[Vijaya S]

Hi all,
I have a mahcine with woody on it..I would like to upgrade it to Sarge.
How do i do that?
Should i use Sarge cds for that...
or
edit /etc/apt/sources.list

Would i lose any data if i do so..
Its a server so i wouldnt like to lose any data..
How can i accomplish that

Regards,
Vijaya


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upgrading from woody to sarge

[Vijaya S]

Hi all,
I have a mahcine with woody on it..I would like to upgrade it to Sarge.
How do i do that?
Should i use Sarge cds for that...
or
edit /etc/apt/sources.list

Would i lose any data if i do so..
Its a server so i wouldnt like to lose any data..
How can i accomplish that

Regards,
Vijaya




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Re: mplayerplug-in

[Erik Jakobsen]

Michael Dominok wrote:
you could add
#backports
deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable all
deb-src http://www.backports.org/debian stable all
or
deb http://www-users.cs.umn.edu/~sdier/debian updates/wup/
to your /etc/apt/sources.list.
Cheers
Michael
 

Thanks Michael, I'll try that
Erik.
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apt-get update

[Johnno]

Hello All,

When I do a apt-get update I get this error:

Fetched 6847kB in 33s (203kB/s)
Reading Package Lists... Error!
E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
E: Error occured while processing lg-issue29 (NewFileVer1)
E: Problem with MergeList
/var/lib/apt/lists/linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz_dist_debian_dists_sarge_main_b
inary-i386_Packages
E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.

How do I fix this??

Many Thanks,
Johnno



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initrd.img and booting

[john gennard]

I have a Sid installation with the 2.6.7-1 kernel, and have
just compiled 2.6.8 (after weeks of trying, I cannot
configure my USB network adaptor and hoped this might give
me some clue to the problem).

After creating the kernel-image.deb, I got the following
message and selected b. (not wishing to find I couldn't
boot at all):-
--
Unpacking kernel-image-2.6.8.1910 (from 
kernel-image-2.6.8.1910_10.00.Custom_i386.deb) ...
Setting up kernel-image-2.6.8.1910 (10.00.Custom) ...
/initrd.img does not exist. Installing from scratch, eh?
Or maybe you don't want a symbolic link here. Hmm? Lets See.

I note that you have an old initrd symbolic link in place. The name of
the symbolic link is being changed to initrd.img I have two options
here.  I can: (A) delete the old symbolic link (default).  You shall
need to update the boot loader (b) Igore it and do nothing

Please select one of a, or b:

Please note that initrd points to the wrong image now
Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub .
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.list file... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst .
Searching for splash image... none found, skipping...
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1910
Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-1-386
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done


/boot/grub/menu.lst includes the following (ignoring the recovery 
mode entries):-
- 
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.8.1910
root(hd0,8)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8.1910 root=/dev/hda9 ro
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8.1910
savedefault
boot

title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.7-1-386
root(hd0,8)
kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-1-386 root=/dev/hda9 ro
initrd  /boot/initrd.img-2.6.7-1-386
savedefault
boot


2.6.7 still boots, but 2.6.8 does not - I expected this,
but I'm confused. For example, why are the entries for vmlinuz
required? If they were used wouldn't the booting of 2.6.7 fail?

/initrd is a link to boot/intrd.img-2.6.7-1
/initrd.img is a link to boot/initrd.img-2.6.8
/vmlinuzis a link to boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8
/vmlinuz.oldis a link to boot/vmlinuz-2.6.7-1


What I would like to know (I don't want to experiment myself),
is how do I arrange things so that grub will boot whichever
kernel I select? Also, is there a URL or reference listing
what should be compiled directly into a kernel to avoid the
need to create an intrd.img?

Can anyone give me an explanation please?

John


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aptitude, dpkg, apt

[nx13372a]

How can i print this:
Versions of packages clamav depends on:
ii  clamav-base 0.80-2   Base package for clamav, an anti-v
ii  clamav-freshclam [clamav-da 0.80-2   Downloads clamav virus databases f
ii  libbz2-1.0  1.0.2-1  A high-quality block-sorting file 
ii  libc6   2.3.2.ds1-16 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libclamav1  0.80-2   Virus scanner library
ii  libcurl37.12.1-1 Multi-protocol file transfer libra
ii  libgmp3 4.1.4-1  Multiprecision arithmetic library
ii  libidn110.5.2-3  GNU libidn library, implementation
ii  libssl0.9.7 0.9.7d-5 SSL shared libraries
ii  zlib1g  1:1.2.1.1-7  compression library - runtime

thanks

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Re: eclipse 3

[Jochen Schulz]

* Blake Swadling:

> does anyone know if eclipse 3.0.1 or 3.1 RC is available anywhere as a
> deb package?

AFAIK it's not. But you can just grab a copy from an eclipse.org mirror
and unzip it anywhere you like (preserved, your $JAVA_HOME is set). As
it contains an Update Manager itself, it's not difficult to stay
current.

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Re: after power outage: Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs :(

[Alexis Huxley]

> How do I interpret 03:04? If I boot off the boot floppy, everything is

It's /dev/hda4 (the 3 and 4 are the major and minor numbers; do 'ls -ld
/dev/hda4' to see this).

> fine. Have poked around for answers in the archives, but haven't
> figured it out.
>
> boot drive:
> hda1 - /boot
> hda2 - swap
> hda3 - /
>
> second disk:
> hdd1 - /disk1

But you don't have an hda4? What's in your lilo.conf or menu.lst
(for lilo or grub respectively) and what's in fstab?

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Re: Upgrading to Sarge

[Carl Fink]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:59:51PM +0530, Vijaya S wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have a mahcine with woody on it..I would like to upgrade it to Sarge.
> How do i do that?
> Should i use Sarge cds for that...
> or
> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
> 
> Would i lose any data if i do so..
> Its a server so i wouldnt like to lose any data..
> How can i accomplish that

This has been posted many, many times.  You couldn't do a five-minute web
search?

You can't count on it going perfectly, although it probably will, and Sarge
isn't (quite) Stable yet, so this might not be the best possible time.  In
fact, Sarge is still mutating at a rate of over five packages per day.

Method:  change sources.list.  Run "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade". 
Run "apt-get dist-upgrade" again.  Repeat that last step until it doesn't
upgrade anything.  (In the Potato-->Woody upgrade, you had to dist-upgrade
many times.  I'm told that the algorithm has been improved, so once might be
enough.)

You're vanishingly unlikely to get lost data per se, but a broken system is
not impossible. Of course, you do regular backups, right?
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Re: LILO problem

[Alexis Huxley]

> I partitioned my hard drive in such a way that i can
> install 2 OS. The partition goes like this:
>
> /dev/hda1 - Linux (ext3)- Bootable
> /dev/hda5 - Linux Swap
> /dev/hda3 - Linux (reiserfs)
>
> /dev/hda1 has Knoppix3.3 (LiveOIO) and /dev/hda3 has
> Knoppix 3.6. I configured /dev/hda3's lilo.conf by
> putting /dev/hda1 in the "other" line. Upon restarting
> lilo, an "Invalid boot signature in /dev/hda1" error
> was displayed. Typing lilo -P -fix does not solve the
> problem either. 
> What went wrong? Thanks!

Post the version of lilo.conf that you last used to generate
the MBR. I.e. the /etc/lilo.conf from which ever OS
you last ran 'lilo' from.

Alexis


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New install with HDD from MAXTOR SATA/150 controller

[Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)]

Hello,

I have an older computer (PII) but with enough RAM and a HDD from 120 GB
connected via an addon MAXTOR SATA/150 card.
When i boot, the computer sees the sata pci card AND the hdd.
Then i install debian and he also sees the promise chipset from the card
but the modules or whatever or not available at that time of the
installation.
When i have to partition my hdd, i get the error that no partition media
can be found so debian is not seeing the HDD via the controller.

How can i change this ? Or is it not possible ?

Cheers,
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Re: initrd.img and booting

[Frank Gevaerts]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 10:19:06AM +0100, john gennard wrote:
> 
> Also, is there a URL or reference listing
> what should be compiled directly into a kernel to avoid the
> need to create an intrd.img?

I guess not, because it is specific to your system. In general, all
drivers needed to mount your root filesystem.

For a standard PC, that would be the drivers for the ide controller, for
the ide disk, and for the / filesystem (probably ext3, but it might be a
different one).

For other systems, it might be scsi, network and nfs (nfs-root systems),
usb (your system on a usb drive, why not ?),...

Frank


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ncurses with sarge

[Stef VK5HSX]

Hi Deb Peoples..

I am trying to compile xfbb from source (rather than using deb binaries) with 
sarge (Testing), howver, I get an error -DUSE_NCURSES when I try to install 
them it wont let me using "apt-get install ncurses" 
--output---
Package ncurses is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package ncurses has no installation candidate

Tried various others finding packages with "apt-cache search ncurses" however, 
older versions 4 & 5 are shown. When trying to install says latest installed 
and older version obsolete..  

Any help much appreciated..


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SSH Chroot Patch - Anyone successfully using it?

[Michael Bellears]

Asked on the chrootssh-users list, but it appears fairly inactive...

Patched SSH3.8.1p1-8(Debian Sarge) with osshChroot-3.8.1p1.diff.
 
 Standard {chroot}/etc/passwd (i.e. no "/./") works fine.
 
 Adding "/./" to user results in login failure: 
 
 mbellears3:x:1003:100::/./var/www/mbellears3:/bin/sh (I have tried
 placing the "/./" in various locations of the user home dir without
 success) 
 
 Oct 21 16:18:28 localhost sshd[1016]: Could not reverse map address
 192.168.1.11.
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1016]: Accepted password for mbellears3
 from 192.168.1.11 port 32920 ssh2
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1016]: (pam_unix) session opened for
user
 mbellears3 by (uid=0)
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1017]: fatal: Couldn"t chroot to user
 directory
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1017]: (pam_unix) session closed for
user
 mbellears3
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1016]: syslogin_perform_logout: logout()
 returned an error
 Oct 21 16:18:30 localhost sshd[1016]: (pam_unix) session closed for
user
 mbellears3
 
 My chroot Jail is /var/chroot/apache (I have tried placing
/var/chroot/apache/var/www/./mbellears3 in /var/chroot/apache/etc/passwd
without success also.
 
 SFTP + SSH both fail is the same manner.

 Really appreciate some insight from anyone who is successfully using
this patch!
 
 Regards,
 MB

Re: ncurses with sarge

[J.H.M. Dassen (Ray)]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 19:54:46 +0930, Stef VK5HSX wrote:
>I am trying to compile xfbb from source (rather than using deb binaries)
>with sarge (Testing), howver, I get an error -DUSE_NCURSES when I try to
>install them it wont let me using "apt-get install ncurses" 

I can't say your question is phrased very clearly, but I expect what you're
looking for is "apt-get install libncurses5-dev".

HTH,
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Re: SSH Chroot Patch - Anyone successfully using it?

[Danie Roux]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 08:29:50PM +1000, Michael Bellears wrote:
> Asked on the chrootssh-users list, but it appears fairly inactive...
> 
> Patched SSH3.8.1p1-8(Debian Sarge) with osshChroot-3.8.1p1.diff.
>  
>  Standard {chroot}/etc/passwd (i.e. no "/./") works fine.
>  
>  Adding "/./" to user results in login failure: 


>  My chroot Jail is /var/chroot/apache (I have tried placing
> /var/chroot/apache/var/www/./mbellears3 in /var/chroot/apache/etc/passwd
> without success also.

Michael,

I might be reading your email wrong. The /var/chroot/apache/etc/passwd is
not what matters. What does matter is the standard /etc/passwd.

So, try adding something like this:

mbellears:x:1001:1001:Chrooted user:/var/chroot/apache/./home/mbellears:/bin/bash

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Re: Kernel 2.6 compile problem - Solved

[Russ Cook]

David Clymer wrote:
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 06:29, Russ Cook wrote:
 

David Clymer wrote:
   

On Sun, 2004-10-17 at 19:16, Russ Cook wrote:
 

I'm running unstable on a Pentium 2 machine, kernel 2.4.18.
I downloaded the kernel-source-2.6.8 deb package today, updated my 
config file, and
tried to compile the kernel.  I got the following errors:
make[2] [modins_post] Error 1
make[1] [real_stamp_image] Error 2

  

   

Where did you get them? Was this the only output? How did you go about
compiling the kernel? What modifications did you make to the config
file?
 

David (and the list),
  In the hope that it might be useful, I've attached the config file. 
The last compiled files in the process before the error messages, 
according to the screen output, were in the sound section.  If you have 
ideas for any other output that might be useful, please tell me how to
obtain it and I'll be happy to attemp a recompile and send it to you.

   

I was actually hoping to get a few answers to the questions I asked :)
Lets start with a play-by-play of your kernel compilation process. What
commands did you type from the point where you thought "i'm going to
compile a kernel" to the point where you saw the above errors?
Then, once you saw the errors, did you attempt to determine what they
meant? If so, what did you do?
The config file is better than nothing, but is not too useful, since I
dont know what *changed* between the original config file and your
current one.
If you want to get the output from a compile or any other command that
produces output, try the following:
mycommand 2>&1 > /path/to/your/favorite/file
this will redirect everything that usually gets sent to your console to
the file that you specified.
-davidc
ps. have you ever seen ESR's guide to asking good questions? Its a great
resource. check it out at:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 

The problem turned out to be the lack of module-init-tools on my 
system.  An additional problem was that module-init-tools conflicted 
with modutils already installed.  I had to upgrade modutils to most 
current version first, then install module-init-tools.  All is fine now, 
except that during the process of upgrading all my packages (which 
probably wasn't necessary) I have lost my /boot/boot.b -> 
/boot/boot-menu.b .  The system boots into vmlinuz-2.6.8 just fine, and 
my modules load, but I don't have a menu option for booting into the 
previous kernel.  I need to obtain another boot-menu.b somehow.

Anyway, thanks to all who provided suggestions to my compile problem.
Regards,
   Russ
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Possibilities with 2 vga cards ??

[Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)]

Hi,

I have an additional vga card and an additional monitor i can use.
What are the posibilities for dual screen and is there a paper about
this ?

Grtz,
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Re: after power outage: Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs :(

[Royce]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:22:40 + (UTC), Alexis Huxley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I interpret 03:04? If I boot off the boot floppy, everything is
> 
> It's /dev/hda4 (the 3 and 4 are the major and minor numbers; do 'ls -ld
> /dev/hda4' to see this).
> 
> > fine. Have poked around for answers in the archives, but haven't
> > figured it out.
> >
> > boot drive:
> > hda1 - /boot
> > hda2 - swap
> > hda3 - /
> >
> > second disk:
> > hdd1 - /disk1
> 
> But you don't have an hda4? What's in your lilo.conf or menu.lst
> (for lilo or grub respectively) and what's in fstab?

# lilo.conf (snippets - not showing lot of commented out stuff from
default lilo)

# Support LBA for large hard disks.
lba32

boot=/dev/hda
root=/dev/hda3
install=/boot/boot-menu.b
map=/boot/map
delay=20
vga=normal

default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
label=Linux
read-only
#   restricted
#   alias=1

image=/vmlinuz.old
label=LinuxOLD
read-only
optional
#   restricted
#   alias=2

~
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
/dev/hda3   /   ext2errors=remount-ro   0   1
/dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/fd0/floppy autouser,noauto 0   0
/dev/cdrom  /cdrom  iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2defaults0   2
/dev/hdd2   /disk1  ext2errors=remount-ro   0   1

I didn't see anything suspicious here and haven't edited these files recently.

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Re: How to run a program before logging out

[Michael Graham]

Toshiro wrote:
> Anybody knows if there is a way to execute some command(s) before
> logging out from a gnome session?

If you create an executable file in your home directory called .xsession

#!/bin/bash

gnome-session
some-other-commands

(remember to do chmod +x .xsession) then chose "default" session from
the session menu in gdm[1] this will run the commands _after_
gnome-session ends. 

I'm not sure what would happen if you chose "shut-down" or "restart"
from the logout menu instead of "logout", I'll check it later and get
back to you, unless someone else would like to tell ;)

[1] If your not using gdm I'm not sure how to choose to run the
.xsession but there should be an option to do so.

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USE flags ??

[Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)]

Hi,

Is there a possibility to use "USE FLAGS" like in gentoo ?
This would be very easy to install new software.
Anybody knows if possible ?
Or will it be possible in the future ?

Cheers,
Philippe



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Re: sarge, postfix and sasl problem

[Jean-Yves Boisiaud]

Andrea Vettorello wrote:
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 05:09:52 +0200 (CEST), Jean-Yves Boisiaud
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hello,
I'm using Sarge with Postfix 2.1.4-5, SASL2 2.1.19-1.5 and
kernel  2.4.27-1-686
When I do a telnet to the smtp server it exits immediatly, I have the log message :
Oct 21 04:59:27 proxy postfix/smtpd[16924]: fatal: no SASL authentication mechanisms

[...]

pwcheck_method: auxprop
mech_list: plain login
Any idea ?

I don't recall if Debian defaults to use PAM with sasl, anyway, seems
you're missing the authentication backend, i mean, if sasl needs to
use the sasldb or PAM or other to store/check username and password. I
think you need to add a "auxprop_plugin:
the_plugin_name_you_intend_to_use" line in your
/etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf.
Ok. I had the following line in in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd.conf :
auxprop_plugin: sasldb
I also modified the /etc/init.d/postfix script. I had /etc/sasldb2 in 
the files list to copy to the /etc chroot jail.

It works nice now.
Thanks.
J-Yves
Andrea


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Re: USE flags ??

[David Dorward]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 13:39:14 +0200, Philippe Dhont   (Sea-ro)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there a possibility to use "USE FLAGS" like in gentoo ?
> This would be very easy to install new software.
> Anybody knows if possible ?
> Or will it be possible in the future ?

It seems unlikely. USE flags specify (mostly) what optional packages
to compile against. For Debian to do this, all packages would have to
be compiled against all combinations of all optional dependancies. As
it is, without that level of choice, Debian is already too big to fit
on a DVD! (And that doens't begin to cover the additional level of
testing that would be required).

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Re: removing wierd files

[Adam Garside]

On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 02:42:21PM -0400, Matt Price wrote:
> CW Harris wrote:
[Snip]
> thank you for the info.  anyone know what the '--' option sigifies?  I 
> notice it's not really documented in the man page.
> m
'--' instructs most utilities to stop parsing command options and treat
everything after as just input. In the case of 'rm', '--' says basically
that anything after that will be treated as a file to be removed.

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Re: Kernel 2.6 compile problem - Solved

[David Clymer]

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 07:06, Russ Cook wrote:
> >  
> >
> The problem turned out to be the lack of module-init-tools on my 
> system.  An additional problem was that module-init-tools conflicted 
> with modutils already installed.  I had to upgrade modutils to most 
> current version first, then install module-init-tools.  All is fine now, 
> except that during the process of upgrading all my packages (which 
> probably wasn't necessary) I have lost my /boot/boot.b -> 
> /boot/boot-menu.b .  The system boots into vmlinuz-2.6.8 just fine, and 
> my modules load, but I don't have a menu option for booting into the 
> previous kernel.  I need to obtain another boot-menu.b somehow.
> 

you may need to set a boot delay in /etc/lilo.conf. If you do that, you
will be able to select a kernel to boot. 

Take a look at 
http://www.linuxheadquarters.com/howto/basic/lilo.shtml

or man lilo.conf for more details.

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Re: apt-get update

[David Clymer]

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 04:43, Johnno wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> When I do a apt-get update I get this error:
> 
> Fetched 6847kB in 33s (203kB/s)
> Reading Package Lists... Error!
> E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room
> E: Error occured while processing lg-issue29 (NewFileVer1)
> E: Problem with MergeList
> /var/lib/apt/lists/linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz_dist_debian_dists_sarge_main_b
> inary-i386_Packages
> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
> 

Have you googled this? Google knows the answer.

in /etc/apt-conf, set

APT::Cache-Limit "";

increase the big number until the problem goes away.

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where can I find lyx 1.3.5 for debian?

[belahcene abdelkader]

Hi, every body
I want to install the new release lyx-1.3.5,
unfortunatly there is no binary for debian,  I tied
the fedora one, it gives an error (I 've sent a
message to this list), someone said that compilation
is done for RH, OK I agree but I had no problem to
install lyx-1.3.3-1rh9_qt.i386.rpm  on my debian
sarge.
Any way, I download the source in order to create my
own binary I have a problem with Qt, but it installed,
since the lyx-1.3.3 with Qt is running ? ( perhaps lyx
doesn't where to find the QT, while 1.3.3 knew it
???!!) this is the message:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx-1.3.5# ./configure
--with-frontend=qt


checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for moc2... not found
checking for moc... not found
configure: error: moc binary not found in $PATH or
/bin !

where is the problem, in debian or lyx ??

best regards
bela



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A Very Strange Error Message When Installing Debian 3.0

[heyboy]

Hi,

I am a new user of debian. Recently, I installed
debian 3.0 in my computer. However, I encounter a very
strange error.
I boot the computer with the installation CD and
follow the instruction.
When installing base component, error occurs. 
The error message is like "fail to chroot /target dpkg
--force-depends --install
/var/cache/apt/archives/debconf_1.0.32_all.deb".
And then I press alt+ctrl+F4 to view the details. I
found that error occurs when configuring debconf.
Actually, perl fail to compile the file Errno.pm.
And the error message from the perl compiler is "Perl
v0.0.0 require--this is only v5.6.1".
And then I view the file Errno.pm.
The line that error occurs is "use 5.006;"
Although I am not familiar with perl, I am sure that
this is not a problem of Errno.pm.
This error make me frustrated but I don't give up and
install in my friend's computer. I can install
successfully this time! Then I move the harddisk from
my friend's computer to my computer. The system starts
properly. Unfortunately, when I install ssh by
apt-get, the error comes again when configuring ssh
with debconf.
"Perl v0.0.0 require--this is only v5.6.1".
I try to enter "perl" in bash shell
#perl
use 5.006;

No error occurs?
But I try serveral times, the same error occurs!
I doubt that this error causes by interupt or timer.
But I am not sure why this occurs.
This error seems to occur randomly in command mode.
I had tried to read the perl source code to find the
reasons. Although I can located the error message
printed in Universal.c, I don't know why it appears.

I love debian very much because it is elegant,
efficent and suit me best. I really want to enjoy it.
Can you give me suggestion and tell me why the error
occurs?
My CPU is : Althon 1000MHz
Ram : 256 + 32 MB

If you need more information, please let me know.

I am very grateful if you can reply me. 
A million thanks.

Regards,
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Turn antialiasing off in Mozilla 1.7

[Stephen Turner]

Can anyone help me turn antialiasing off in Mozilla 1.7? Some people
apparently like blurry writing, but I don't. :-)

I was using version 1.6-5 until today, and I had the following lines in
/etc/mozilla/prefs.js which turned antialiasing off:

pref("font.scale.aa_bitmap.enable", false);
pref("font.scale.aa_bitmap.min", 100);
pref("font.antialias.min", 100);

But today I upgraded to 1.7.3-5, and antialiasing has turned itself on
again, and I can't work out how to turn it off again.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: where can I find lyx 1.3.5 for debian?

[David Dorward]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:56:37 -0700 (PDT), belahcene abdelkader
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx-1.3.5# ./configure
> --with-frontend=qt

You shouldn't need to do anything thing except "make install" as root. 

> checking for moc2... not found
> checking for moc... not found
> configure: error: moc binary not found in $PATH or
> /bin !
> 
> where is the problem, in debian or lyx ??

Neither. You just don't have certain build dependancies installed (to
take a simple example, without a C compiler you could run "HelloWorld"
but not compile "HelloWorld.c" into "HelloWorld"). Find the debian
packages containing the moc binary ( has
a nice search engine) and install them first.

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courier-imap extremely slow after update

[Nicos Gollan]

Hi,

after updating courier-imap, access to the mailbox has become extremely slow. 
Opening a mail folder in any client (tried sylpheed-claws, Thunderbird and 
KMail) takes about 6 seconds. Access to mails inside an opened folder is 
normal (almost instantaneous).

It is an issue with SSL, TLS and unencrypted connections.

Any ideas what could cause this?

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Evolution 2 ?

[Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)]

Somebody know when evolution 2.0.2 will be available as a package ?
I try the exchange connector with 1.4.6 but not very succesful.

Grtz,
Phil.



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Re: Evolution 2 ?

[Ali Alphan Bayazit]

It is in unstable,
I have been using it for sometime now,
much better than 1.4

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:49 +0200, Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro) wrote:
> 
> Somebody know when evolution 2.0.2 will be available as a package ?
> I try the exchange connector with 1.4.6 but not very succesful.
> 
> Grtz,
> Phil.
> 
> 
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Re: where can I find lyx 1.3.5 for debian?

[Nikita V. Youshchenko]

> Hi, every body
> I want to install the new release lyx-1.3.5,
> unfortunatly there is no binary for debian

Just be a bit patient. As
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=275325 shows, packages are
being prepared (note 'pending' tag).


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New installation hangs on "REAL TIME CLOCK DRIVER v1.12"

[Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro)]

Hello,

I am installing a new system and after the first install when i reboot
to go on with the debian configuration, it hangs on "real time clock
driver v1.12"

Anybody an idea ?

Grtz,
Phil.



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Magicfilter 2.3

[Anthony Campbell]

The Debian magicfilter package gives version 1.2. 
There is a version 2.3 available from
http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Code/magicfilter/

It now has a BSD-style copyright, so perhaps that is why it isn't
available for Debian. I emailed the maintainer but didn't get a reply.
Could it not be placed in non-free?

I compiled it myself and placed it in /usr/local. It seems to work well
though I had no problems with 1.2 either. Anybody else using it?

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Debian package downloader for win32

[Chad Kiser]

Here is my problem.  I'm running debian at home where I have dial-up
with no other options.  At work we have satellite which is just a
little better.  To update my system now I have a second drive which I
boot into which has a exact copy of my home debian install on it. 
Then I run an update, copy the files to cd take them home and install
them there again.  Here is what I'm requesting, an app on debian which
will output my installed package database and possible sources.list
into a file. Then a win32 program that will read that file, look at my
sources.list and present me with a list of upgradeable packages, then
allow me to select packages to upgrade and download those for me.  I
don't know anything about coding so I can't do something like this for
myself, and I'm sure there are other people out there in a similar
situation that something like this would benefit.  Would someone be
willing to tackle such a project?


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Re: Magicfilter 2.3

[Ali Alphan Bayazit]

I don't use it, but apparently it is up for adoption.
http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/rfa_bymaint

aab

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:20 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> The Debian magicfilter package gives version 1.2. 
> There is a version 2.3 available from
> http://www.pell.portland.or.us/~orc/Code/magicfilter/
> 
> It now has a BSD-style copyright, so perhaps that is why it isn't
> available for Debian. I emailed the maintainer but didn't get a reply.
> Could it not be placed in non-free?
> 
> I compiled it myself and placed it in /usr/local. It seems to work well
> though I had no problems with 1.2 either. Anybody else using it?
> 
> Anthony
> 
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Re: [OT] kudos to the debian-installer team!

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Pim Bliek wrote:
Just a short note to congratulate the debian-installer team on their
excellent work!
I second that. Joey Hess and his team are on the ball. It is a fantastic 
product that they are coming up with.

Hugo
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Really strange connection issue

[RituRaj]

I am using Sarge for last days. I just did a netstat
on my system and found that my "evolution" gets
connected to some other public IP on port 80!
THis belongs to www.salon.com

#netstat -pan | grep -i establi
(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
process info
 will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
it all.)
netstat -pan | grep -i esta
(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
process info
 will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
it all.)
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53641 
206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53648 
206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
tcp0616 192.168.3.22:53650 
63.211.238.132:80   ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin


If i close all the applications(including evolution)
and open just one instance of Firefox and connect to
www.salon.com; and do a netstatit shows that it
gets connected on multiple Real IPs on port 80 out of
which only one is valid(i did a dig)

 netstat -pan | grep -i esta
(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
process info
 will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
it all.)
Active Internet connections (servers and established)
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53134 
206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53133 
206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53147 
67.72.16.92:80  ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53140 
64.154.80.250:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53144 
193.108.154.147:80  ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
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Some of the IPs are not resolvable.!

I have my system on LAN. THrough evolution i connect
to an exchange server which is not on real IP(but is
natted through firewall)

Please can anyone tell me what is happenning?

Regards;
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Re: A Very Strange Error Message When Installing Debian 3.0

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

heyboy wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a new user of debian. Recently, I installed
> debian 3.0 in my computer. However, I encounter a very
> strange error.


I don't use Woody anymore. If possible you might try the new Sarge
Installer. Sarge will be the new Debian stable soon. That will not have
the error you describe.


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Debian attack on Mac OS X?

[Peter Callas]

I was suggested to contact this address by someone at
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Can any one please help with this problem:

Recently when I try to use 1.2.3 (v125.9) or Internet Explorer 5.2 on
Mac OS X 10.3.5 I cannot access *any* web sites correctly. I either get
"Not Found. The requested URL /search was not found on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use
an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.29 Server at
www.cerne.no-ip.org Port 80" 

or else I get the following page appearing even though the address is,
for example, http://www.google.com (ie. the address bar shows as I typed it)

XXX
XXX

"Welcome to Your New Home in Cyberspace!

This is a placeholder page installed by the Debian release of the Apache
Web server package, because no home page was installed on this host. You
may want to replace this as soon as possible with your own web pages, of
course
 This computer has installed the Debian GNU/Linux operating system but
has nothing to do with the Debian GNU/Linux project. If you want to
report something about this host's behavior or domain, please contact
the ISPs involved directly, not the Debian Project.

 See the Network Abuse Clearinghouse for how to do this.

 Unless you changed its configuration, your new server is configured as
follows:
•Configuration files can be found in /etc/apache.
•   The DocumentRoot, which is the directory under which all your HTML
files should exist, is set to /var/www.
•   CGI scripts are looked for in /usr/lib/cgi-bin, which is where
Debian packages will place their scripts.
•   Log files are placed in /var/log/apache, and will be rotated daily.
The frequency of rotation can be easily changed by editing
/etc/apache/cron.conf.
•   The default directory index is index.html, meaning that requests for
a directory /foo/bar/ will give the contents of the file
/var/www/foo/bar/index.html if it exists (assuming that /var/www is your
DocumentRoot).
•   User directories are enabled, and user documents will be looked for
in the public_html directory of the users' homes. These dirs should be
under /home, and users will not be able to symlink to files they don't own.
 All standard Apache modules are available with this release and can be
chosen with the apacheconfig script. Installing a new module on your
system is just a matter of compiling it (with the apache-dev package)
and adding a line to your httpd.conf configuration file.

 More documentation on Apache can be found on:
•The Apache documentation stored on your server.
•   The Apache Project home site.
•   The ApacheWeek newsletter.
•   The Debian Project Documentation which contains HOWTOs, FAQs, and
software updates.

You can also consult the list of World Wide Web Frequently Asked
Questions for information.

 If you find a bug in this Apache package, or in Apache itself, please
file a bug report on it. Instructions on doing this, and the list of
known bugs of this package, can be found in the Debian Bug Tracking System.

 Thanks for using this package, and congratulations for your choice of a
Debian system!"

X
X

This happens for every site I try to enter, including Debian's.

I can still access the internet via Netscape 7.1 for some reason.
However my Software Update no longer works. 

I read that there was an attack on Debian and Linux, but that was in
November last year. I don't understand what this has to do with Mac OS X
and why it is happening on two browsers and not on Netscape.

I have not installed any version of Linux on my 15" Powerbook. Can you
please shine any light on this attack? Is this redirection produced by
Debian? If so why? Apple cannot help me with this problem, I hope that
you can.

Thank you in advance for your prompt response.

Peter C


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Re: ssh tput error 'tput: No value for $TERM and no -T specified'

[Matt Price]

Thomas Dickey wrote:
Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thomas Dickey wrote:
Matt Price <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I've checked and $TERM is in fact set to 'xterm' on the client
temrinal before I execute the ocmmand, and in remote sessions started

perhaps.  I just ran
ssh server env
and saw no sign of $TERM, other than the message
TERM: Undefined variable.
hmm.  same here.  But when I try:
TERM=xterm ssh server env
there's s till no sign.  So what would the next step be?

I'm not sure (that is I don't know which part of the ssh connection is doing
this).
ssh's either filtering out some/all environment variables, or because the
connection is coming in on a pty which doesn't actually have a terminal
associated with it, the target is stripping it out since it doesn't know.  In
some contexts, that sort of thing would set $TERM to "network".
hmmm.,  But why am I getting this message when not everyone seems to get 
it?  I've tried, for instance, setting LogLevel = QUIET in 
/etc/ssh/sshd_config, but no luck.

the problem isn't catastrophic, but it IS very distracting and annoying.
ah well.
matt
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Re: Debian package downloader for win32

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:13:31 -0400, Chad Kiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here is my problem.  I'm running debian at home where I have dial-up
> with no other options.  At work we have satellite which is just a
> little better.  To update my system now I have a second drive which I
> boot into which has a exact copy of my home debian install on it.
> Then I run an update, copy the files to cd take them home and install
> them there again.  Here is what I'm requesting, an app on debian which
> will output my installed package database and possible sources.list
> into a file. Then a win32 program that will read that file, look at my
> sources.list and present me with a list of upgradeable packages, then
> allow me to select packages to upgrade and download those for me.  I
> don't know anything about coding so I can't do something like this for
> myself, and I'm sure there are other people out there in a similar
> situation that something like this would benefit.  Would someone be
> willing to tackle such a project?
> 

Not exactly what you are requesting, but it can be done with the tools
you have, you probably only need wget or similar application for
windos. It's explained in the APT offline howto (found this link on
google: 
http://cip.physik.uni-freiburg.de/cgi-bin/dwww?type=html&location=/usr/share/doc/apt-doc/offline.html/index.html).

You only need to download the packages file with APT, it's bearable on
dial-up, but you can avoid this part too, only it became a little too
cumbersome...


Andrea

P.S. look at the 3rd part, "Using APT and wget"


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Re: Re: where can I find lyx 1.3.5 for debian?

[belahcene]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx-1.3.5# ./configure
--with-frontend=qt
I have to do it otherwise, it uses xforms which is not installed
before 

"make install" as root. yes sure but 
we need to compile , so make first, but configure failed so makefile is not  created

For moc and moc2
normally we have the same required for lyx-1.3.3 and 
lyx-1.3.5
I don't understand why the redhat 1.3.3 rpm was installed and not   lyx-1.3.5.rpm

thanks for answer
bela

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Re: Really strange connection issue

[RituRaj]

Thanks a lot for the prompt reply :)
I am still curious about my second observation...IF I
just connect to www.salon.com through browserwhy
so many IPs(unresolvable)?

THanks

--- Ali Alphan Bayazit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> this is evolution 1.4 getting rdf file from
> www.salon.com in summary
> page.
> you can setup news feeds by clicking
> tools/configure/summary (news tab)
> or something like that.
> aab
> 
> On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 07:52 -0700, RituRaj wrote:
> > I am using Sarge for last days. I just did a
> netstat
> > on my system and found that my "evolution" gets
> > connected to some other public IP on port 80!
> > THis belongs to www.salon.com
> > 
> > #netstat -pan | grep -i establi
> > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > process info
> >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> see
> > it all.)
> > netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > process info
> >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> see
> > it all.)
> > Active Internet connections (servers and
> established)
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> > 127.0.0.1:631  
> ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> > 127.0.0.1:631  
> ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53641 
> > 206.14.209.40:80   
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53648 
> > 206.14.209.40:80   
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> > tcp0616 192.168.3.22:53650 
> > 63.211.238.132:80  
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > 
> > 
> > If i close all the applications(including
> evolution)
> > and open just one instance of Firefox and connect
> to
> > www.salon.com; and do a netstatit shows that
> it
> > gets connected on multiple Real IPs on port 80 out
> of
> > which only one is valid(i did a dig)
> > 
> >  netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > process info
> >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> see
> > it all.)
> > Active Internet connections (servers and
> established)
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> > 127.0.0.1:631  
> ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> > 127.0.0.1:631  
> ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53134 
> > 206.14.209.40:80   
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53133 
> > 206.14.209.40:80   
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53147 
> > 67.72.16.92:80 
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53140 
> > 64.154.80.250:80   
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53144 
> > 193.108.154.147:80 
> ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > ---
> > Some of the IPs are not resolvable.!
> > 
> > I have my system on LAN. THrough evolution i
> connect
> > to an exchange server which is not on real IP(but
> is
> > natted through firewall)
> > 
> > Please can anyone tell me what is happenning?
> > 
> > Regards;
> > Rituraj
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ___
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> 
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Re: Debian attack on Mac OS X?

[Francois Bottin]

Selon Peter Callas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> I was suggested to contact this address by someone at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Can any one please help with this problem:
>
> Recently when I try to use 1.2.3 (v125.9) or Internet Explorer 5.2 on
> Mac OS X 10.3.5 I cannot access *any* web sites correctly. I either get
> "Not Found. The requested URL /search was not found on this server.
> Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use
> an ErrorDocument to handle the request. Apache/1.3.29 Server at
> www.cerne.no-ip.org Port 80"
>
> or else I get the following page appearing even though the address is,
> for example, http://www.google.com (ie. the address bar shows as I typed it)
>
> [default apache page on Debian]
>
> [...]

I guess it is the response from a machine that is incorrectly used as proxy.

If you do not need a proxy, then disable its use in IE (I have no idea how you
can do this)
If you need a proxy, copy the config you have in netscape as you said it is
working. Do not forget the port number.

If it is not a proxy config problem... I have no clue what it could be.

HTH,

François.

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Re: Really strange connection issue

[Ali Alphan Bayazit]

this is evolution 1.4 getting rdf file from www.salon.com in summary
page.
you can setup news feeds by clicking
tools/configure/summary (news tab)
or something like that.
aab

On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 07:52 -0700, RituRaj wrote:
> I am using Sarge for last days. I just did a netstat
> on my system and found that my "evolution" gets
> connected to some other public IP on port 80!
> THis belongs to www.salon.com
> 
> #netstat -pan | grep -i establi
> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> process info
>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
> it all.)
> netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> process info
>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
> it all.)
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> 127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> 127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53641 
> 206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53648 
> 206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> tcp0616 192.168.3.22:53650 
> 63.211.238.132:80   ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> 
> 
> If i close all the applications(including evolution)
> and open just one instance of Firefox and connect to
> www.salon.com; and do a netstatit shows that it
> gets connected on multiple Real IPs on port 80 out of
> which only one is valid(i did a dig)
> 
>  netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> process info
>  will not be shown, you would have to be root to see
> it all.)
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> 127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> 127.0.0.1:631   ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53134 
> 206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53133 
> 206.14.209.40:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53147 
> 67.72.16.92:80  ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53140 
> 64.154.80.250:80ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53144 
> 193.108.154.147:80  ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> ---
> Some of the IPs are not resolvable.!
> 
> I have my system on LAN. THrough evolution i connect
> to an exchange server which is not on real IP(but is
> natted through firewall)
> 
> Please can anyone tell me what is happenning?
> 
> Regards;
> Rituraj
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
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Re: Re: where can I find lyx 1.3.5 for debian?

[David Dorward]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 16:01:28 +, belahcene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/local/lyx-1.3.5# ./configure
> > --with-frontend=qt

> "make install" as root. yes sure but
> we need to compile , so make first, but configure failed so makefile is not  
> created

You haven't done a very good job of quoting me, and you seem to have
misinterpreted what I said. You do need to run configure and make, but
you can do that as a regular user. You only need to be root for the
last stage - make install.

> For moc and moc2 normally we have the same required for lyx-1.3.3 and
> lyx-1.3.5

Didn't you install 1.3.3 from a binary? As I said - you don't need to
compilation tools and the header files to build against if you are
using a prebuilt binary. As you are building from source you DO need
them.

> I don't understand why the redhat 1.3.3 rpm was installed and not lyx-1.3.5.rpm

Different packages with different dependencies - and being binaries,
they usually depend on specific versions of their dependencies.

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Re: Really strange connection issue

[Ali Alphan Bayazit]

I am not sure I understand the problem,

evolution only connects for a single rdf file,

firefox on the other hand, downloads html+ images + javascripts, etc

for example, if you do,
wget -kq -O - www.salon.com | grep 'src=' | grep -v -e salon -e '="/' 

you will see a javascript link:
http://services.springstreetnetworks.com/Services/Pod/PodJavaScript.aspx?pnid=2001

wget --spider
http://services.springstreetnetworks.com/Services/Pod/PodJavaScript.aspx?pnid=2001

this is redirected to 67.72.16.92
one of your unresolved adressed.

I hope that's ok now.

aab
On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 08:21 -0700, RituRaj wrote:
> Thanks a lot for the prompt reply :)
> I am still curious about my second observation...IF I
> just connect to www.salon.com through browserwhy
> so many IPs(unresolvable)?
> 
> THanks
> 
> --- Ali Alphan Bayazit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > this is evolution 1.4 getting rdf file from
> > www.salon.com in summary
> > page.
> > you can setup news feeds by clicking
> > tools/configure/summary (news tab)
> > or something like that.
> > aab
> > 
> > On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 07:52 -0700, RituRaj wrote:
> > > I am using Sarge for last days. I just did a
> > netstat
> > > on my system and found that my "evolution" gets
> > > connected to some other public IP on port 80!
> > > THis belongs to www.salon.com
> > > 
> > > #netstat -pan | grep -i establi
> > > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > > process info
> > >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> > see
> > > it all.)
> > > netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> > > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > > process info
> > >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> > see
> > > it all.)
> > > Active Internet connections (servers and
> > established)
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> > > 127.0.0.1:631  
> > ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> > > 127.0.0.1:631  
> > ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53641 
> > > 206.14.209.40:80   
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53648 
> > > 206.14.209.40:80   
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > > 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > > 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> > > tcp0616 192.168.3.22:53650 
> > > 63.211.238.132:80  
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If i close all the applications(including
> > evolution)
> > > and open just one instance of Firefox and connect
> > to
> > > www.salon.com; and do a netstatit shows that
> > it
> > > gets connected on multiple Real IPs on port 80 out
> > of
> > > which only one is valid(i did a dig)
> > > 
> > >  netstat -pan | grep -i esta
> > > (Not all processes could be identified, non-owned
> > > process info
> > >  will not be shown, you would have to be root to
> > see
> > > it all.)
> > > Active Internet connections (servers and
> > established)
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45798
> > > 127.0.0.1:631  
> > ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:45800
> > > 127.0.0.1:631  
> > ESTABLISHED1390/gnome-cups-ico
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53134 
> > > 206.14.209.40:80   
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53133 
> > > 206.14.209.40:80   
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > > 127.0.0.1:45798 ESTABLISHED-
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53147 
> > > 67.72.16.92:80 
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 127.0.0.1:631  
> > > 127.0.0.1:45800 ESTABLISHED-
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53140 
> > > 64.154.80.250:80   
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > tcp0  0 192.168.3.22:53144 
> > > 193.108.154.147:80 
> > ESTABLISHED24332/firefox-bin
> > > ---
> > > Some of the IPs are not resolvable.!
> > > 
> > > I have my system on LAN. THrough evolution i
> > connect
> > > to an exchange server which is not on real IP(but
> > is
> > > natted through firewall)
> > > 
> > > Please can anyone tell me what is happenning?
> > > 
> > > Regards;
> > > Rituraj
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > ___
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today!
> > > http://vote.yahoo.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > -- 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>   
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Netatalk2

[Joachim Smit]

I'm trying to install Netatalk 2. Because there isn't
a Debian-package yet I'm trying to compile it.

After:

"./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.2"

I get the following message:

"If you have installed BDB in a non standard location
use the --with-bdb=/path/to/bdb configure option and
make sure your linker is configured to check for
libraries there.
configure: error: Berkeley DB library required but not
found!"

What should I do ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Sounds off in bash

[Otto Wyss]

Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  --- Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > In bash rather many time the speaker sounds. Unfortunately my speaker is
> > so loud I had to disconnect it. Since that isn't a permanent solution is
> > does anyone know how to disable any sound in bash?
> 
> Console: setterm -blength 0
> X:   xset b off
> 
Setterm works fine, thanks a lot.

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Re: Netatalk2

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:16:04 -0700 (PDT), Joachim Smit
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to install Netatalk 2. Because there isn't
> a Debian-package yet I'm trying to compile it.
> 
> After:
> 
> "./configure --with-bdb=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.2"
> 
> I get the following message:
> 
> "If you have installed BDB in a non standard location
> use the --with-bdb=/path/to/bdb configure option and
> make sure your linker is configured to check for
> libraries there.
> configure: error: Berkeley DB library required but not
> found!"
> 
> What should I do ?
> 

Have you installed the libdb4.2-dev package?


Andrea


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Re: Sounds off in bash

[Otto Wyss]

> X:   xset b off
> 
> For X, add it to ~/.xsession
> 
I'm starting X through startx so again I'm missing the .xsession . I
know there is a sample somewhere but I can't find it.

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Re: Evolution 2 ?

[Mike Ward]

I just did a dist-upgrade and got it, but it's giving me a amusing
error in which is says it needs 10MB to install, and I have about
negative 1TB.

df reports me as having 47 GB open.

I'm just going to remove the package and re-install it, and then if
that doesn't work, I'll play with it a bit, bu if anyone has any
ideas, I'd love the help :)


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:50:24 -0400, Ali Alphan Bayazit
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is in unstable,
> I have been using it for sometime now,
> much better than 1.4
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2004-10-21 at 15:49 +0200, Philippe Dhont (Sea-ro) wrote:
> >
> > Somebody know when evolution 2.0.2 will be available as a package ?
> > I try the exchange connector with 1.4.6 but not very succesful.
> >
> > Grtz,
> > Phil.
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Re: Debian and Win XP

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> I have a Toshiba Satellite A30 with Win XP installed.  How do I
> resize the ntfs file system since fips will not work on it and the
> only ntfsresize I can find is set to run under Linux.

Go get a copy of Knoppix from http://www.knoppix.net/ and boot from
the Knoppix disk.  Then use parted or qtparted from the Knoppix disk
to do your resizing and partitioning in one fell swoop.

> Given that I need to know how to make a bootable Linux cdrom with
> ntfsresize on it.  Some bright apple decised that my computer did
> not require a floppy drive so I have a 40 gig HD and a ups
> connector.

That's not surprising, my store still sells floppy drives regularly,
though we have long since stopped carrying floppies altogether.  It's
sort of a dead critter.

> I am about ready to say to hell with the dual boot and give it all
> to Debian but I don't know how it would handle the large disk size.

No problems.  I suggest making a 10 or 15MB /boot partition at the
beginning of your drive to help avoid potential problems with older
BIOS and large disks, though.
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Re: USE flags ??

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> Is there a possibility to use "USE FLAGS" like in gentoo ?

No. We're not ricers.  http://www.funroll-loops.org/

> This would be very easy to install new software.

Apt isn't good enough for you?

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Re: Netatalk2

[Joachim Smit]

> 
> Have you installed the libdb4.2-dev package?
> 

Thank you !

Now, I have the following problem.

I can run './configure' with several options like:
--enable-redhat, --enable-suse etcetera to install the
start scripts. There isn't an option --enable-debian.

How should I solve that problem?

Thank you again.

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Re: Webmin (Sarge)

[S.D.A.]

On Wed, Oct 20, 2004 at 01:52:45PM -0400 or thereabouts, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004, S.D.A. wrote:
> 
> > It's not just the CRON module, but pretty much everything is borked. I
> > cannot read my Apache logs, fetchmail config, etc.
> >
> 
> Ok so this is a much bigger problem.  The Debian packages expect configs
> to be in /etc/webmin/ is that where yours are?

OK I moved a couple of the configs over to '/etc/webmin/', but it's still
borked. Looks like I'm going back to the upstream package. :(

I'll take another look at the Debian package, when it's been adopted, to see if
it moves over the configuration files, when updating from the upstream version.

Thanks for your input.

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Set up virtual tap0 device on boot

[Damir Dezeljin]

Hi.

I hope that I'm not reposting this e-mail (I never received my first
post).

Is it posible to set up 'tap0' device during Debian boot?

As I know it is needed to send a special IOCTL call to the /dev/net/tun
character device. This IOCTL is used to register the tap0 with the kernel.

I would like to set tap0 in promisc mode and add it to br0 bridge that is
set up on boot from /etc/network/interfaces. I would like to avoid adding
my own program for tap0 registration. Is there anything similar already
implemented in 'standard' Debian boot sequence - e.g. in interfaces file?

Any sugestion?

10x and regards,
Dezo




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Re: Evolution 2 ?

[Jacob S]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:43:41 -0400
Mike Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just did a dist-upgrade and got it, but it's giving me a amusing
> error in which is says it needs 10MB to install, and I have about
> negative 1TB.
> 
> df reports me as having 47 GB open.
> 
> I'm just going to remove the package and re-install it, and then if
> that doesn't work, I'll play with it a bit, bu if anyone has any
> ideas, I'd love the help :)

Sounds like it missed one of the needed dependencies. Not for Evolution,
but for the upgrade. I've seen the same error when I was in the middle
of an upgrade between Woody and Sarge. I think the package that fixed it
for me was something like e2fsprogs.

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: Netatalk2

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:01:06 -0700 (PDT), Joachim Smit
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Have you installed the libdb4.2-dev package?
> >
> 
> Thank you !
> 
> Now, I have the following problem.
> 
> I can run './configure' with several options like:
> --enable-redhat, --enable-suse etcetera to install the
> start scripts. There isn't an option --enable-debian.
> 
> How should I solve that problem?
> 

For this one i've no idea. You could try to look what the above
options try to do, i suspect how and where the init files are created.
You can look to the netatalk Debian package and see what the mantainer
has done... =)


Andrea


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Re: Sounds off in bash

[Thomas Adam]

 --- Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> I'm starting X through startx so again I'm missing the .xsession . I
> know there is a sample somewhere but I can't find it.

http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX

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Re: Evolution 2 ?

[Mike Ward]

Acutally, I just did a "apt-get remove evolution", "apt-get clean",
and "apt-get install evolution" and it worked just fine. Woo!

Thanks for the help, though.


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:39:12 -0500, Jacob S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:43:41 -0400
> Mike Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I just did a dist-upgrade and got it, but it's giving me a amusing
> > error in which is says it needs 10MB to install, and I have about
> > negative 1TB.
> >
> > df reports me as having 47 GB open.
> >
> > I'm just going to remove the package and re-install it, and then if
> > that doesn't work, I'll play with it a bit, bu if anyone has any
> > ideas, I'd love the help :)
> 
> Sounds like it missed one of the needed dependencies. Not for Evolution,
> but for the upgrade. I've seen the same error when I was in the middle
> of an upgrade between Woody and Sarge. I think the package that fixed it
> for me was something like e2fsprogs.
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob
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Creating new inbox Courier-IMAP

[Adi Linden]

I am evaluating courier-imap and maildir for a mail server. When the first
email is delivered to a local mail account, is the maildir structure
automatically created by postfix, maildrop, procmail, etc...?

Adi


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Re: [OT] kudos to the debian-installer team!

[Gilbert, Joseph]

I concur.  I used the Sarge Debian installer for the first time last night
on a machine at home.  I was amazed at how easy it was to set up a mixed
system.  In the past, rather than fool around with complicated boot loaders,
I would install multiple systems on different disks and switch the boot
order in the bios.  However, the debian installer made it so easy to install
Debian on to an unused partition and install GRUB in the MBR (after it found
all of the other bootable images).  I was quite pleased and amazed.  I can
even boot into images on the system that were not in the previous boot
loader.

Joe

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] kudos to the debian-installer team!


Pim Bliek wrote:
> Just a short note to congratulate the debian-installer team on their
> excellent work!
> 

I second that. Joey Hess and his team are on the ball. It is a 
fantastic 
product that they are coming up with.

Hugo


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[OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[William Ballard]

My brother in law and nephew are above-average with computer skills but 
not C programmers.  Both are resistant to trying the Knoppix CD I burned 
for them because I told them it's going to be really hard for them to 
get their sound card or network card or what have you working -- I 
didn't lie to them.

I just can't get them interested in Linux because they just can't get 
motivated to switch or even dual boot -- even though their computers are 
totally infested with Spyware.  Nephew can't go anywhere on the 
internet, he just works around it.

I'm just gonna give up on them.  Should everyone switch?


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FW: Evolution 2 ?

[Gilbert, Joseph]

I have seen a similiar issue as well.  In my case, df was reporting large
negative numbers.  Installing the coreutils package from testing is what
resolved that issue.  This sounds different though.  Are you running a mixed
system (i.e. packages from both woody and sarge) at all?

This may require some detective work.  Can you post the output from the
dist-upgrade?

Joe


-Original Message-
From: Jacob S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Evolution 2 ?


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:43:41 -0400
Mike Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just did a dist-upgrade and got it, but it's giving me a amusing
> error in which is says it needs 10MB to install, and I have about
> negative 1TB.
> 
> df reports me as having 47 GB open.
> 
> I'm just going to remove the package and re-install it, and then if
> that doesn't work, I'll play with it a bit, bu if anyone has any
> ideas, I'd love the help :)

Sounds like it missed one of the needed dependencies. Not for Evolution,
but for the upgrade. I've seen the same error when I was in the middle
of an upgrade between Woody and Sarge. I think the package that fixed it
for me was something like e2fsprogs.

HTH,
Jacob


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RE: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[Gilbert, Joseph]

See my earlier post regarding the Sarge install.  I installed it as a
desktop workstation.  X-windows worked fine (but I will have to do some more
work to get the proper Xserver for my card installed).  I logged in to a KDE
session and found that KDE had autodetected my sound card.  You may want to
have them give Sarge a try.  It may be a lot easier than even you suspect...
keep in mind, that is a may.  :-)

Joe Gilbert

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives


My brother in law and nephew are above-average with computer skills but 
not C programmers.  Both are resistant to trying the Knoppix CD 
I burned 
for them because I told them it's going to be really hard for them to 
get their sound card or network card or what have you working -- I 
didn't lie to them.

I just can't get them interested in Linux because they just can't get 
motivated to switch or even dual boot -- even though their 
computers are 
totally infested with Spyware.  Nephew can't go anywhere on the 
internet, he just works around it.

I'm just gonna give up on them.  Should everyone switch?


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FIXED: Package Download Tool?

[ms419]

On Aug 26, 2004, at 1:56 AM, Thomas Adam wrote:
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:49:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
apt-get -y --print-uris install lyx | awk '/http:/ {print "wget " $1}'
I like to use the following for that:
http://linuxmafia.com/~n6tadam/apt-fetch
-- Thomas Adam
Thanks, everyone, for your help with this problem! I really appreciate 
all the suggestions.

I finally figured out how to download foreign architecture packages 
using aptitude & "-o APT::Architecture=foreignarch".

I think this feature is unfortunately very hidden, so I contributed 
this patch: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277123

However, I'm still searching for a tool to download packages' 
dependancies.

Thanks again!
Jack
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Re: FW: Evolution 2 ?

[Mike Ward]

Well, I don't have it anymore, but in my case, df reported everything
normally - it seemed that evolution was the only thing having problems
at all.


On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:10:48 -0700, Gilbert, Joseph
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen a similiar issue as well.  In my case, df was reporting large
> negative numbers.  Installing the coreutils package from testing is what
> resolved that issue.  This sounds different though.  Are you running a mixed
> system (i.e. packages from both woody and sarge) at all?
> 
> This may require some detective work.  Can you post the output from the
> dist-upgrade?
> 
> Joe
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jacob S [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:35 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Evolution 2 ?
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 12:43:41 -0400
> Mike Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I just did a dist-upgrade and got it, but it's giving me a amusing
> > error in which is says it needs 10MB to install, and I have about
> > negative 1TB.
> >
> > df reports me as having 47 GB open.
> >
> > I'm just going to remove the package and re-install it, and then if
> > that doesn't work, I'll play with it a bit, bu if anyone has any
> > ideas, I'd love the help :)
> 
> Sounds like it missed one of the needed dependencies. Not for Evolution,
> but for the upgrade. I've seen the same error when I was in the middle
> of an upgrade between Woody and Sarge. I think the package that fixed it
> for me was something like e2fsprogs.
> 
> HTH,
> Jacob
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Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[William Ballard]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:16:21PM -0700, Gilbert, Joseph wrote:
> session and found that KDE had autodetected my sound card.  You may want to
> have them give Sarge a try.  It may be a lot easier than even you suspect...
> keep in mind, that is a may.  :-)

This isn't a technical thing, so much as a motivation thing.  I actually 
remember the 3-4 years I was aware of things like "apt-get" and "Debian" 
and "Microsoft Security bugs" and just couldn't be bothered to switch.  
I remember exactly what went through my mind: (1) I already know how to 
do cool things, it's scary to stop doing the cool things I already know 
how to do; (2) even if it's cool, why should I work so hard when I'm 
already cool and know how to run things like CygWin?; (3) why don't them 
wierd Linux people just get a job like me and get an MSDN subscription; 
I've got all the stuff I need for free; why do I care?

And I spent a month getting all Debian's eyecandy and hardware 
acceleration working.  And mutt was ridiculous at first compared to 
Outlook.  Now of course, I see the world very differently, but I just 
don't know how to make someone else motivated to make this leap of 
faith.

Of course they'll like it -- but they just need to be nudged.  And I 
don't want to piss them off by making them do something they don't want 
to do.


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APIC error

[Bob Underwood]

I have a Giga-byte GA-7DPXW+ mobo with dual Athlon MP 2800+ cpus.  The kernel 
is a custom 2.6.8, basically the stock k7-smp kernel with PCMCIA, ACPI, and 
OSS removed, compiled with gcc-3.3.

Trying to clone a hard disk using dd, i get the following error repetitively:

APIC error on CPU1:  00 (40)
APIC error on CPU1:  40 (40)
APIC error on CPU0:  00 (40)
APIC error on CPU0:  40 (40)

This continues with the 40 (40) until the process runs its course, or i kill 
the process totally.

APIC error bits, listed in the 
kernel-source:  /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/apic.c only go from 0 through 
7.  Poking around google, I have found numerous references, all the way back 
to the 2.2 series of kernels and none refer to error codes higher than 7.

Can someone give me a clue as to how to decipher this?  or point me towards a 
location where the question is more appropriate?

TIA

Bob


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Wine still segfaulting

[Marc Shapiro]

I previously wrote
I am running Sarge and have been very happy with the way that wine has 
been working (actually running winword for when I need complete 
compatablity).  A few days ago, however, wine got updated when I did an 
'apt-get upgrade' and it now segfaults with the following error in the 
log file:

$ cat /tmp/wine.log.sySWlj
/usr/bin/wine: line 474:  3835 Segmentation fault 
$WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME $DASH "$@"

Does anyone know what is causing this?
I tried uninstalling and then reinstalling my previous version of wine, 
wine-utils and libwine, but I am still getting this error.  Any help 
would be appreciated.

I have now uninstalled and purged wine, wine-utils, wine-doc and 
winesetuptk again.  I also removed the .wine directory from my home 
directory.  I then reinstalled wine and ran winesetup.  I am still 
getting the following errors:

mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ wine winword.exe &
[1] 2475
mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin winword.exe ...
/usr/bin/wine: line 471:  2484 Segmentation fault 
$WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME "$@"
Wine failed with return code 139
/usr/bin/wine: line 604:  2480 Terminated  $XMESSAGE 
-timeout 30 -buttons "Dismiss":0," Never display this message 
again ":3 -title "Wine Launch Window" "Invoking $WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME 
$@ ...

mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ wine excel.exe &
[1] 2498
mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin excel.exe ...
/usr/bin/wine: line 471:  2507 Segmentation fault 
$WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME "$@"
Wine failed with return code 139
/usr/bin/wine: line 604:  2503 Terminated  $XMESSAGE 
-timeout 30 -buttons "Dismiss":0," Never display this message 
again ":3 -title "Wine Launch Window" "Invoking $WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME 
$@ ...

mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ wine powerpnt.exe &
[1] 2519
mns:/mnt/Win98D/Office$ Invoking /usr/lib/wine/wine.bin powerpnt.exe ... 
/usr/bin/wine: line 471:  2528 Segmentation fault 
$WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME "$@"
Wine failed with return code 139
/usr/bin/wine: line 604:  2524 Terminated  $XMESSAGE 
-timeout 30 -buttons "Dismiss":0," Never display this message 
again ":3 -title "Wine Launch Window" "Invoking $WINEBIN/$WINE_BIN_NAME 
$@ ...

Is this a configuration problem, or what?  Does anyone know how I can 
get wine working, again?

Marc
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applying non-debian patches and compling kernel the Debian way

[H. S.]

I usually use the Debian way of compiling the kernel as explained here:
http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html
For this I have always used the kernel-source package from Debian. And 
given this, I can apply the kernel-patches packaged for Debian. I was 
wondering, can I apply non-Debian packages too to the kernel before 
doing "make-kpkg --append-to.."?

Also, can I just download a pristine copy of the kernel (from kernel.org 
e.g.), apply the corresponding patch that comes with it and others that 
I may need and then continue the Debian-way from "make menuconfig" 
onwards? Thus using make-kpkg to make a debfile to be installed with dpkg.

If you can refer me a URL that explains this (using pristine non-Debian 
kernel source and Debian way of compiling it) even better.

Thanks,
->HS
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RE: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[Gilbert, Joseph]

Totally makes sense all you said.

I have continued to be a primary Windows user with little thought of
changing over to using a Unix workstation, even though I have had them
before and am familiar with a lot of the trappings and what can and can't be
done.  I viewed my approach as pretty powerful since I was able to utilize
the strengths of both platforms and minimize weaknesses.

Only now, am I really considering migrating completely away from Windows.
This is for two main reasons.  

A) Not just the security issues of a windows environment (any piece of
software is likely to have exploitable bugs) but MS's handlings of these
issues and the problems that occur when trying to patch your system.  

B) There are more than enough tools available in the open source environment
that there are options for all of the critical apps that I use frequently
that are actually quality choices.  The only time I should need to boot into
Windows is when working with a vendor or content provider that has not
bothered to make sure that their site or software works on all platforms.

I have made the decision to stop updating my XP system automatically.  I am
very leary of SP2.  I know, as a system administrator, that an unpatched
system is going to bite you big sooner or later.  So, in my eyes, the option
of migrating over to Linux and getting acquainted with all new applications
and rebuilding the way I work is much more attactive and has more long term
viability than trying to maintain my various Windows machines.

These same issues really apply to everyone who uses Microsoft products.  In
order to survive, Microsoft is going to have reduce the cost and worry
associated with keeping a windows box up to date and also provide the fixes
necessary to keep them up to date.  Despite their announcements that
security was going to be on the forefront for them, their implementations
have been clumsy and heavy handed.

As the Linux workstation grows in popularity, which it will, people's
evaluation of the equation between cost of migration vs. hassle of dealing
with Microsoft will tip. 

It will be a bit of a sales job to get people to see the dangers and hassles
associated with dealing with a platform that has a sort of 'damned if you
do, damned if you don't' feel to its update procedures.  They may not have
enough knowledge to see how hampered they are and how much better a
computing experience could be.  A lot of people won't see it and you may
have to let them flounder until they realize they deserve more.

I hope my little dissertation helps.

Joe

-Original Message-
From: William Ballard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives


On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:16:21PM -0700, Gilbert, Joseph wrote:
> session and found that KDE had autodetected my sound card.  
You may want to
> have them give Sarge a try.  It may be a lot easier than even 
you suspect...
> keep in mind, that is a may.  :-)

This isn't a technical thing, so much as a motivation thing.  I 
actually 
remember the 3-4 years I was aware of things like "apt-get" and 
"Debian" 
and "Microsoft Security bugs" and just couldn't be bothered to switch.  
I remember exactly what went through my mind: (1) I already know how to 
do cool things, it's scary to stop doing the cool things I already know 
how to do; (2) even if it's cool, why should I work so hard when I'm 
already cool and know how to run things like CygWin?; (3) why 
don't them 
wierd Linux people just get a job like me and get an MSDN subscription; 
I've got all the stuff I need for free; why do I care?

And I spent a month getting all Debian's eyecandy and hardware 
acceleration working.  And mutt was ridiculous at first compared to 
Outlook.  Now of course, I see the world very differently, but I just 
don't know how to make someone else motivated to make this leap of 
faith.

Of course they'll like it -- but they just need to be nudged.  And I 
don't want to piss them off by making them do something they don't want 
to do.


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gtop

[Brandt Dusthimer]

There is a gtop package in stable, but no package in testing or
unstable.  Is there a reason why?  Is it in another package?

Thanks,

Brandt Dusthimer

(Please CC me as I'm not on this list)


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cdrecord permissions problem in 2.6.8

[H. S.]

There was a problem in 2.6.8 kernel where a normal user could not burn 
CD's using cdrecord. I experienced that problem and installed 2.6.7, 
which did not suffer that problem. I am wondering, is that problem fixed 
now? I am planning to compile the 2.6.8 kernel source package from Debian.

thanks,
->HS
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Re: [video-dvdrip], where is mp2enc

[Joan Tur]

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Es Dijous 21 Octubre 2004 00:27, en Tong va escriure:
| On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 22:34:38 +0200, Joan Tur wrote:
| > Es Dilluns 18 Octubre 2004 03:43, en Tong va escriure:
| > | sh: line 1: mpeg2enc: command not found
| >
| > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/# apt-file search mpeg2enc
| > mjpegtools: usr/bin/mpeg2enc
|
| Oh, thank you,   thank you,  thank you very much, Joan Tur! (Failing the
| search from the debian net (packages.debian.org), I didn't know what to
| do...)
You're welcome  ;)

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Re: [OT] kudos to the debian-installer team!

[H. S.]

Apparently, _Hugo Vanwoerkom_, on 21/10/04 10:19,typed:
Pim Bliek wrote:
Just a short note to congratulate the debian-installer team on their
excellent work!
I second that. Joey Hess and his team are on the ball. It is a fantastic 
product that they are coming up with.

Hugo

I agree whole heartedly. I installed Debian Unstable on a Dell Inspiron 
5160 last week and the installer is sooo much better that what I used a 
couple of years ago to install Woody!

The only glitch I faced was it didn't auto-detect the Broadcom 4400 
series of 10/100 MBps ethernet adapter but it was listed in the list of 
adapter it presented. I just had to select the right one (of course here 
is where the knowledge about your hardware comes handy). I am sure the 
installer is a work in progress, but it is coming along nicely.

BTW, some people have said that that red background screen is a bug. 
However, at least on an LCD screen, it looks actually nice. Kind of 
matches the Debian red logo.

->HS
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Re: Sounds off in bash

[Otto Wyss]

Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  --- Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > I'm starting X through startx so again I'm missing the .xsession . I
> > know there is a sample somewhere but I can't find it.
> 
> http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX
> 
Creating the above .xsession files disables the default XFCE4 startup
and I get only an empty X screen. So what now?

O. Wyss

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Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[Paul Johnson]

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William Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> My brother in law and nephew are above-average with computer skills but 
> not C programmers.  Both are resistant to trying the Knoppix CD I burned 
> for them because I told them it's going to be really hard for them to 
> get their sound card or network card or what have you working -- I 
> didn't lie to them.

Actually, you did (but not deliberately).  Knoppix (from at least this
year) gets both up and running automagically.  Get them the newest
Knoppix, and next time you're over there to fix their Windows system
again, throw Knoppix in and let them have at it.
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Re: APIC error

[Bob Underwood]

I posted:

> I have a Giga-byte GA-7DPXW+ mobo with dual Athlon MP 2800+ cpus.  The 
kernel 
> is a custom 2.6.8, basically the stock k7-smp kernel with PCMCIA, ACPI, and 
> OSS removed, compiled with gcc-3.3.
> 
> Trying to clone a hard disk using dd, i get the following error 
repetitively:
> 
> APIC error on CPU1:  00 (40)
> APIC error on CPU1:  40 (40)
> APIC error on CPU0:  00 (40)
> APIC error on CPU0:  40 (40)
> 
> This continues with the 40 (40) until the process runs its course, or i kill 
> the process totally.
> 
> APIC error bits, listed in the 
> kernel-source:  /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/kernel/apic.c only go from 0 
through 
> 7.  Poking around google, I have found numerous references, all the way back 
> to the 2.2 series of kernels and none refer to error codes higher than 7.
> 
> Can someone give me a clue as to how to decipher this?  or point me towards 
a 
> location where the question is more appropriate?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Bob

Susequent to posting this, I found a message that suggested booting with the 
"noapic" option.  This seems to have abated the original problem, however, I 
still have found no reference to what I presume to be error codes:  i.e., 40
(40).

Bob


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Re: gtop

[CW Harris]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:28:00PM -0500, Brandt Dusthimer wrote:
> There is a gtop package in stable, but no package in testing or
> unstable.  Is there a reason why?  Is it in another package?
$ apt-cache show gnome-system-monitor
Package: gnome-system-monitor
Priority: optional
Section: gnome
[...]
Version: 2.6.0-5
Replaces: gtop, procman
^^^
[...]
MD5sum: e573d64746d1510d1e34850721cbaa42
Description: Process viewer and system resource monitor for GNOME 2
 This package allows you to graphically view and manipulate the running
 processes on your system.  It also provides an overview of available
 resources such as CPU and memory.
 .
 The gnome-system-monitor replaces both the "procman" and "gtop"
 packages from the GNOME 1 desktop; this package is for use under the
 GNOME 2 desktop environment.


FWIW there are several ways to search for files (google this group for
many answers). You can also search for files on the packages.debian.org
web site.  For me:

$apt-cache search gtop
libgtop2 - Libraries for gtop system monitoring library (part of Gnome 2)
drawmap - draws customized maps, using raw USGS data files
gnome-system-monitor - Process viewer and system resource monitor for GNOME 2
libgtop-daemon - gtop daemon for monitoring remote machines (part of Gnome)
[...]

gnome-system-monitor looks promising ;)

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Re: gtop

[Florian Ernst]

Hello list, hello Brandt!

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 02:28:00PM -0500, Brandt Dusthimer wrote:
> There is a gtop package in stable, but no package in testing or
> unstable.  Is there a reason why?  Is it in another package?

You'll find gnome-system-monitor via a "apt-cache search gtop",
provided you have entries for testing or unstable in your sources.list
and updated your lists:

| $ apt-cache show gnome-system-monitor
| Package: gnome-system-monitor
| [...]
| Description: Process viewer and system resource monitor for GNOME 2
|  This package allows you to graphically view and manipulate the running
|  processes on your system.  It also provides an overview of available
|  resources such as CPU and memory.
|  .
|  The gnome-system-monitor replaces both the "procman" and "gtop"
|  packages from the GNOME 1 desktop; this package is for use under the
|  GNOME 2 desktop environment.

HTH,
Flo


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Printing from Gimp

[Freddy Freeloader]

Hi All,
I have an HP OfficeJet 5500 set up to print through CUPS.  I can get it 
to print from OpenOffice, from a browser, etc  My problem is in 
getting it to print from Gimp. 

There are no gimpprint drivers available for the OJ 5500, at least I 
can't find any, and I have the 1.6.2 version of HPIJS installed, so I 
downloaded the correct .ppd file and set Gimp up to use the printer as a 
PostScript Level2 printer and browsed to the .ppd file and showed Gimp 
where it is.   There is an activity bar that runs across the bottom of 
page showing Gimp getting ready to print, but nothing prints.  The 
spooler never shows any print jobs and neither does the CUPS printer or 
print jobs page when connecting to it by browser.  (All jobs except for 
the Gimp jobs show up here and print successfully)

I am obviously configuring something wrong in Gimp, or I am missing a 
software component somewhere, but what? 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Gary
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Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[s. keeling]

Incoming from William Ballard:
> On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 12:16:21PM -0700, Gilbert, Joseph wrote:
> > session and found that KDE had autodetected my sound card.  You may want to
> > have them give Sarge a try.  It may be a lot easier than even you suspect...
> 
> This isn't a technical thing, so much as a motivation thing.  I actually 

Exactly.  I'd guess the best you could do is set them up with a dual
boot system, and beg them to try it for a week.  Give them Evo for
mail, and OO.  You better ensure everything works correctly "out of
the box", and is secured, or they'll just end up with yet another
insecure and unstable platform.  You'll probably need to consider data
migration issues too.  How to get their mail from Windows to Linux and
back again?  You're also going to be their sysadmin for a while; do
you have remote access to their machines?  Are they going to trust you
to be root on their machines?

Maybe you should wait until the next disaster befalls them (shouldn't
be long).  They may then be better motivated to accept the challenge.


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Dual Monitor Configuration - What Am I Missing?

[Scarletdown]

I am trying to get my system set up to be able to output to the TV (an 
old Amiga monitor connected to a VCR).  Yesterday, I went ahead and 
purchased an S-Video to composite adapter and ran a cable from the 
S-Video Out port on my video card (NVidia Geforce 5600FX) to the video 
in port on the VCR.

When I rebooted, I was able to watch the boot process on the TV (kinda 
cool in a geeky way).  But when the system tried to load the X-Server, 
the screens (both the TV and my primary monitor, which is a Trinitron 
Multiscan 17Se set to 1280x1024-24 Bit Color) flashed the NVidia logo a 
few times and then crashed back to the console.  If it helps 
troubleshooting any, here are the relevant lines from my XF86Config-4 
file...  So, what do I have configured incorrectly here?

Section "ServerLayout"
  Identifier "XFree86 Configured"
  Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
  # Screen 1 "Screen1" 0 0
  InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
  InputDevice "PS/2 Mouse" "CorePointer"
  #InputDevice "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
 #InputDevice "Serial Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
  Option "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection

Section "Files"
  RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
  ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
# True type and type1 fonts
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-xfree86-nonfree"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/java"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/freefont"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
  FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
  FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
  FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
  FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/CID"

EndSection

Section "Module"
  Load "ddc"
 #Load "GLcore" # disable for official nvidia driver
  Load "dbe"
 #Load "dri" # disable for official nvidia driver
  Load "extmod"
  Load "glx"
  Load "bitmap"
  Load "speedo"
  Load "type1"
  Load "freetype"
  Load "record"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
  Identifier   "Monitor0"
  HorizSync30.0 - 82.0 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
  VertRefresh  50.0 - 70.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
  Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525 
#60Hz
  Modeline "800x600" 40.12  800  848  968 1056   600  601  605  628 
#60Hz
  Modeline "1024x768"751024 1048 1184 1328   768  771  777  806 
-hsync -vsync
  Modeline "1024x768"851024 1056 1152 1360   768  784  787  823
  ModeLine "1152x864"651152 1168 1384 1480   864  865  875  985 
Interlace
  Modeline "1152x864"921152 1208 1368 1474   864  865  875  895
  Modeline "1152x864"   1101152 1240 1324 1552   864  864  876  908
  Modeline "1152x864"   1351152 1464 1592 1776   864  864  876  908
  Modeline "1152x864"   137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536   864  866  885  902 
-HSync -VSync
  Modeline "1280x1024"   801280 1296 1512 1568  1024 1025 1037 1165 
Interlace
  Modeline "1280x1024"  1101280 1328 1512 1712  1024 1025 1028 1054
  Modeline "1280x1024"  126.5  1280 1312 1472 1696  1024 1032 1040 1068 
-HSync -VSync
  Modeline "1280x1024"  1351280 1312 1456 1712  1024 1027 1030 1064
  Modeline "1280x1024"  1351280 1312 1416 1664  1024 1027 1030 1064
  Modeline "1280x1024"  157.5  1280 1344 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1072 
+HSync +VSync
  Modeline "1280x1024"  181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696  1024 1031 1046 1072 
-HSync -VSync
  Modeline "1400x1050"  1291400 1464 1656 1960  1050 1051 1054 1100 
+HSync +VSync
  Modeline "1600x1200"  1621600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 
+HSync +VSync
  Modeline "1600x1200"  1891600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 
-HSync -VSync
  Modeline "1600x1200"  202.5  1600 1664 1856 2160  1200 1201 1204 1250 
+HSync +VSync
  Modeline "1600x1200"  2201600 1616 1808 2080  1200 1204 1207 1244 
+HSync +VSync
  ModeLine "1800x1440"  2301800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 
+HSync +VSync
  ModeLine "1800x1440"  2501800 1896 2088 2392  1440 1441 1444 1490 
+HSync +VSync

  Identifier   "Monitor1"
  HorizSync30.0 - 50.0
  VertRefresh  60.0
  Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640  664  760  800   480  491  493  525 
#60Hz
EndSection

Section "Device"
 #Option "sw_cursor" # needed for some ati cards
 #Option "hw_cursor"
 #Option "NoAccel"
 #Option "ShowCache"
 #Option "ShadowFB"
 #Option "UseFBDev"
 #Optio

Re: Sounds off in bash

[Thomas Adam]

 --- Otto Wyss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Creating the above .xsession files disables the default XFCE4 startup
> and I get only an empty X screen. So what now?

You want to have a file such as this:
=
#!/bin/sh

#type any additional commands you want to launch here

#Now launch the window manager
xfce-mcs-manager
xfwm4 --daemon
xftaskbar4 &
xfdesktop &
exec xfce4-panel
==

Save that as ~/.xsession. chmod 700 ~/.xsession

-- Thomas Adam

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you for all of them at once when you get better. The 
experience will probably kill you. :)"

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Re: [OT] Debian advocacy for Smart but Scared People With Lives

[William Ballard]

On Thu, Oct 21, 2004 at 01:05:04PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> Actually, you did (but not deliberately).  Knoppix (from at least this
> year) gets both up and running automagically.  Get them the newest
> Knoppix, and next time you're over there to fix their Windows system
> again, throw Knoppix in and let them have at it.

Not true: neither the soundcard nor the network card were detected 
automatically.  I think his network card was a 3com 3c59x or some 
permutation of those letters.  There's a "common" variety and a "less 
common" variety.  I googled whatever it was plus +debian and found out 
some completely non-intuitive driver you could substitute for it, and 
why Knoppix didn't support it out of box.  Never could quite figure out 
what the issue was with Alsa.

Of course I could have set there and dinked with it until it worked, but 
that's what I told them they'd have to do and they don't want to do it.

They're still stuck in that "just run setup.exe" from the vendor's 
website mindset.


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Re: Sounds off in bash

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Otto Wyss:
> Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > I'm starting X through startx so again I'm missing the .xsession . I
> > > know there is a sample somewhere but I can't find it.
> > 
> > http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX
> > 
> Creating the above .xsession files disables the default XFCE4 startup
> and I get only an empty X screen. So what now?

Is it being used?  I found when I disabled XDM, all my personalization
in .xinitrc was ignored.  I moved them to .xsession, and all worked as
before.  Others have mentioned that their system is exactly opposite
to mine, so try moving them to .xinitrc

Here's some additions to your startup file (whichever you end up
with).  Note the mentions of .Xclients, .xmodmap, and .Xresources; I
use .Xclients to start up the _applications_ I want running in X.

  -- 8< snip ---
#!/bin/bash
#

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.xmodmap
xclients=$HOME/.Xclients
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps
#
if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
  xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
  xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
  xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
  xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

xset s off
env > ~/.xenv

if [ -f "$xclients" ]; then
  . $xclients
fi

exec /usr/bin/fluxbox
# exec /usr/bin/fvwm2
  -- 8< snip ---


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