Re: Burning Fedora CD's

[Alan Chandler]

On Saturday 27 November 2004 05:20, Shawn McCuan wrote:
> What do I have to do to get cd burning enabled on my system? The burning
> programs arent detecting that I even have a burnerwhat should I do?
>
> (Im a newblet - sorry)
>

Need some more details

1) What cd burner do you actually have, and how is it connected to your 
computer
2) What version of linux are you running - run dmesg (or look in syslog) and 
copy here the detection message from the operating system of your burner 
during boot.
3) What program are you using to try and burn a cd, and how do you know it 
can't detect your burner
4) What version of debian are you running (woody/sarge/unstable) and what 
version of cdrtools are you using (most burner programs rely on cdrecord 
which is in this package)

With this info, maybe someone here can help you.


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Re: Burning Fedora CD's

[Alvin Oga]

On Sat, 27 Nov 2004, Shawn McCuan wrote:

> What do I have to do to get cd burning enabled on my system? The burning 
> programs arent detecting that I even have a burnerwhat should I do?

as s keeling said .. search the archives ..
and/or search google/yahoo/et.al

- what is the output of dmesg
- is the cdrw listed

- is the cdrw device listed as a supported hardware in the
  cdrw hardware list ?
http://www.linux-1u.net/CDRW/SupportedDrives/

- take your pc down to the local installfest in michigan ..

- put up $100 reward to anyone that will get it working in 
 15 minutes :-)

c ya
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Re: Problem of compiling kernel

[Lian Liming]

newbin shang wrote:
the following is content of my grub booting script:
---
color cyan/blue white/blue
title   Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.7-1-386
root(hd0,0)
   

according to your fstab, i think the root should be "root (hd0,2)"
 

I think it is not the problem here in "root", because i can boot into 
the system using "root (hd0,0)" for the kernel installed by debian cd.

<>kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.7-1-386
savedefault
boot
title Kernel-2.6.9
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-2.6.9 root=/dev/hda3 ro
savedefault
boot
title Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.7-1-386 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.7-1-386 root=/dev/hda3 ro single
initrd /initrd.img-2.6.7-1-386
savedefault
boot
-
And second on the list is the kernel compiled by myself. It is correct
that I set "root=/dev/hda3"

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phpmyadmin Erroring out after upgrade

[Trev Thorpe]

Hey guys,

   Debian Sarge
   Running apache2 on port 8080

   Used phpmyadmin as recently as earlier this week with no errors.

   I've done upgrades via apt-get upgrade this week.

   Currently if I try to goto my website  http://websiteurl/phpmyadmin I am
brought to login screen, I login and error out
   "192.168.255.1108080 could not be found, please check name and try again"

I can see the error here easily, NO COLON. This should be
192.168.255.110:8080  ..

   Where can I make this adjustment ?


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Re: Burning Fedora CD's

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Shawn McCuan:
> What do I have to do to get cd burning enabled on my system? The burning 
> programs arent detecting that I even have a burnerwhat should I do?

Search the archives at lists.debian.org


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Burning Fedora CD's

[Shawn McCuan]

What do I have to do to get cd burning enabled on my system? The burning 
programs arent detecting that I even have a burnerwhat should I do?

(Im a newblet - sorry)
Shawn
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Re: Mac user/ needs assistance

[Marc Wilson]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 02:04:49PM -0800, Bill Mullen wrote:
>  I am running Mac  OS X 10.2.8, want Panther 10.3 etc  , have attempted 
> to use the SUPRNOVA.org web page with out success.

Two things... one, this is a Debian Linux mailing list, not a Mac OS X one,
so you're not likely to get much help.  Second, stealing the operating
system isn't really going to endear you to anyone here.  If you want
Panther, go and buy it.

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Re: Pam Errors

[Adam Aube]

Simon Collyer wrote:
> Quoting Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>> Those settings also look fine. This does not appear to be a
>> misconfiguration. Try reinstalling the PAM libraries (all one line):
>>
>> dpkg -l | grep "libpam" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install
>> --reinstall
>>
>> This won't help you figure out what broke, but it should fix it. If you
>> want to find out exactly what the problem is, run 'su' under 'strace' to
>> see where the errors occur.

> Still no luck,  its complaining about the immediate configuration on
> libpam0g
> 
> Any other ideas?

Try changing the "libpam" in the grep command to "libpam-" (this will make
it skip libpam0g). Just tested on my machine, and it did let me reinstall
libpam-modules and libpam-runtime. Hopefully this will fix your problem.

Adam


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Re: eclipse install

[Jules Dubois]

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 09:06:05 -0800, Eric Gaumer wrote:

> Runs fine here on Sid. I also compiled a PPC/GTK version that works fine
> on my PPC. In fact the version I built has more features than the x86
> version I downloaded.

Windows users report that there are numerous nice features which are
simply not enabled by default.


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Re: combining mp3s

[Gregory Seidman]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 04:37:17PM -0500, Michael Spang wrote:
} Patrick Wiseman wrote:
} >On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0500, Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
} >>I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
} >>should I use to combine them?
} >
} >I've had success with a simple 'cat file1.mp3 file2.mp3 > file3.mp3',
} >but I'm sure there's something wrong with that!
} >
} >Patrick
} 
} Well.. considering many players can play uncompressed RAR files with a 
} bunch of mp3s in them, it's not surprising that this works. Though 
} certainly the result doesn't follow the mp3 standard; it won't have 
} correct headers at the beginning and will have extra headers in the 
} middle of the file.

The MPEG layer-III audio standard does not have any file headers or
footers. MP3 is, in fact, a streaming format and only individual frames
(which are essentially packets) have headers. As such, a file consisting of
a sequence of frames can be concatenated with another file consisting of a
sequence of frames and form a standards-compliant resulting stream.

In practice, however, many (most?) mp3 files have an IDv3 tag, which is a
file footer. If you concatenate a stream onto the end of a stream with such
a footer, that footer will be interpreted as garbage sitting between valid
frames and will be either silently ignored or played as garbled noise,
depending on the player and the details of the stream encoding. 

For more information see:

http://www.id3.org/mp3frame.html
http://www.dv.co.yu/mpgscript/mpeghdr.htm
http://www.mp3-tech.org/programmer/frame_header.html
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mp3/chapter/ch02.html

} Michael Spang
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Re: Relationship between "discover" and "hotplug"

[Joey Hess]

Christian Convey wrote:
> I'm using Sarge with a 2.6.9-1 kernel. Can anyone help me understand the 
> relationship between "discover" and "hotplug" in my system?
> 
> The reason I'm confused is that both seem to be involved in making the 
> system aware of connected hardware, but I'm not sure how they fit 
> together in 2.6/Sarge.

Rather badly. Discover takes care of loading appropriate modules for PCI
devices based on a hardware database that is as correct and complete as
a year of installer testing can make it. Hotplug takes care of USB
hardware, and can also load modules for PCI devices; it does this based
on information in the kernel modules themselves, which can occasionally
be wrong.

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Re: Firefox 1.0, mailto, and mutt

[Brad Sawatzky]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, Jim McCloskey wrote:

> I asked earlier:
> 
> |> I used mozex with earlier versions of Firefox to bring up mutt in
> |> response to clicking on mailto links.
> |>
> |> Does anyone know of a way of doing this also with Firefox 1.0?
> 
> Thanks very much indeed to all who responded. I ended up using the
> `launchy' extension. This proved troublesome at first because every
> effort to use it failed with the error:

I missed this thread earlier.  FWIW, here's my firefox mailto: handler
(using Launchy).  I use it to ssh over to my maildrop machine.  Perhaps it
will make a useful template for others.


#! /usr/bin/perl

# Helper program for mozilla and mutt.
#   Brad Sawatzky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# This is for use with the 'Launchy' extension.  Create a file named
# 'launchy.xml' in the users (or global) chrome directory that contains the
# following (without the hash marks).
#
# 
# http://launchy.mozdev.org/configurations";>
#   
#   Mutt
#   2
#   ~/bin/mailto
#   
#   
#
#
# Rename this perl script to '~/bin/mailto', and make it executable.
# Install the 'Launchy' extension and right-click on a 'mailto:' URL for
# muttly goodness.

my $test = 0;   # if non-zero then watch 'tail ~/.xsession-errors' (for example)
my $XTERM="/usr/bin/xfterm";
my $REMCMD="ssh -t [EMAIL PROTECTED]";

my @ADDRESSES=();
my $BODY="";
$PATH="";
my $ARGS = join (' ', @ARGV);
if($test) { warn "invocation: $0 $ARGS\n";}

## Parse mailto: line using rfc2368
# 
# 
if( $ARGS =~ /^mailto:(.*)/ ) {
  my @globs = split(/,/, "$1");

  for my $glob (@globs) {
if($test) { warn "  glob: $glob\n";}
my @mainblobs = split(/\?/,"$glob");
## first field should be an email address
push @ADDRESSES, shift @mainblobs;
if($test) { warn "  ADDR: " . join(',',@ADDRESSES) . "\n"; }


for my $headerblob (@mainblobs) {
  if($test) { warn "headerblob: $headerblob\n"; }
  ## The rest are header options
  my @headers = split(/\&/, "$headerblob");
  for my $header (@headers) {
if($test) { warn "  header: $header\n"; }
my ($fld,$val) = split(/=/, "$header");
for(lc($fld)) {
  if($test) { warn "fld: $fld\n"; }
  if(/^cc$/) {
push @MAILARGS, "-c \"$val\" ";
  }
  elsif (/^bcc$/) {
push @MAILARGS, "-b \"$val\" ";
  }
  elsif (/^to$/) {
push @ADDRESSES, "$val";
  }
  elsif (/^subject$/) {
push @MAILARGS, "-s \"$val\" ";
  }
  elsif (/^body$/) {
$BODY.="$val\n";
  }

} # done fld switch statement
  } # done header field loop
} # done headerblob loop
  } # done mainblob (should really be only one of these...)
}

my $ADDLIST = join(" ", @ADDRESSES);
my $ARGLIST = join(" ", @MAILARGS);

## FIXME:  ignoring body for now.
## Not sure what to do with the body.  'mutt' supports including a file with
#  a header option, but that won't work if you ssh over to another machine...
#  Maybe fork off an xterm with the body to allow copy and pasting?

if($test) {warn "$XTERM -e '$REMCMD mutt $ARGLIST $ADDLIST'";}

exec "$XTERM -e '$REMCMD mutt $ARGLIST $ADDLIST'";


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Re: Pam Errors

[Simon Collyer]

Quoting Adam Aube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


> Those settings also look fine. This does not appear to be a
> misconfiguration. Try reinstalling the PAM libraries (all one line):
>
> dpkg -l | grep "libpam" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install
> --reinstall
>
> This won't help you figure out what broke, but it should fix it. If you want
> to find out exactly what the problem is, run 'su' under 'strace' to see
> where the errors occur.
>
> Adam
>
>

Adam,

Still no luck,  its complaining about the immediate configuration on
libpam0g

Any other ideas?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# dpkg -l | grep "libpam" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get
install --reinstall -y
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 54 not upgraded.
Need to get 285kB of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://ftp.au.debian.org testing/main libpam-modules 0.76-22 [152kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.au.debian.org testing/main libpam-runtime 0.76-22 [59.0kB]
Get:3 http://ftp.au.debian.org testing/main libpam0g 0.76-22 [74.2kB]
Fetched 285kB in 2s (128kB/s)
E: Internal Error, Could not perform immediate configuration (2) on libpam0g
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~#

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Re: usb camera / filesystem question

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 21:35 -0500, Christian Convey wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into a 
> Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the following?
> 
> When I plug in the camera, I assume there are three devices that must be 
> created in the /dev directory, no?
> 
> #1 : a device for the camera's plain old USB interface (i.e., ttyUSB1)
> #2 : a device for the camera as a usb mass storage device (i.e., sda)
> #3 : a device for the partition on that storage device (i.e., sda1)
> 
> Can anyone tell me which pieces of software are responsible for setting 
> up each of those devics?

udev.

$ apt-cache show udev
[snip]
Description: /dev/ management daemon
 udev is a program which dynamically creates and removes device 
 nodes from
 /dev/. It responds to /sbin/hotplug device events and requires a 
 2.6 kernel.

apt-cache is your friend/

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usb camera / filesystem question

[Christian Convey]

Hi guys,
I'm curious about the way a USB camera gets set up when plugged into a 
Sarge / 2.6.9 system. I'm also using 'udev'. Anyone know the following?

When I plug in the camera, I assume there are three devices that must be 
created in the /dev directory, no?

#1 : a device for the camera's plain old USB interface (i.e., ttyUSB1)
#2 : a device for the camera as a usb mass storage device (i.e., sda)
#3 : a device for the partition on that storage device (i.e., sda1)
Can anyone tell me which pieces of software are responsible for setting 
up each of those devics?

Thanks,
Christian
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Relationship between "discover" and "hotplug"

[Christian Convey]

Hey guys,
I'm using Sarge with a 2.6.9-1 kernel. Can anyone help me understand the 
relationship between "discover" and "hotplug" in my system?

The reason I'm confused is that both seem to be involved in making the 
system aware of connected hardware, but I'm not sure how they fit 
together in 2.6/Sarge.

Thanks,
Christian
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Re: Serious problem after tetex-security update

[Roberto Sanchez]

Andreas Goesele wrote:
Andreas Goesele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

After the last security update with libkpathsea3 and tetex-bin my
LaTeX installation doesn't work any more. When I try to compile a
LaTeX file I get:
I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!
What can I do to get a working LaTeX installation back? I urgently
need it!

I found the solution. For some (unknown) reason the softlink from
/usr/share/texmf/web2c to /var/lib/texmf/web2c wasn't created. I added
it by hand and everything works again.
Andreas Goesele
Submit a bug report.  I may have been an oversight on the
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Re: Serious problem after tetex-security update

[Andreas Goesele]

Andreas Goesele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> After the last security update with libkpathsea3 and tetex-bin my
> LaTeX installation doesn't work any more. When I try to compile a
> LaTeX file I get:
>
> I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!
>
> What can I do to get a working LaTeX installation back? I urgently
> need it!

I found the solution. For some (unknown) reason the softlink from
/usr/share/texmf/web2c to /var/lib/texmf/web2c wasn't created. I added
it by hand and everything works again.

Andreas Goesele

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Re: Serious problem after tetex-security update

[Elwood]

apt-get -f install

apt-get update

apt-get dist-upgrade  (if you messed up sources.list is good sometimes)

dpkg-reconfigure tetex-bin





 --- Andreas Goesele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: 
> Hi!
> 
> After the last security update with libkpathsea3 and tetex-bin my
> LaTeX installation doesn't work any more. When I try to compile a
> LaTeX file I get:
> 
> I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!
> 
> What can I do to get a working LaTeX installation back? I urgently
> need it!
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance!
> 
> Andreas Goesele
> 
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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Roel Schroeven]

Alfredo Cole wrote:
El Vie 26 Nov 2004 12:15, Roel Schroeven escribió:
(...)
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If you are trying to quote Descartes, then it is "Cogito ergo sum". Otherwise, 
forget it.
Yes and no: it's supposed to mean "I code therefore I am", instead of 
Descartes's "I think therefore I am".

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Re: Mac user/ needs assistance

[Adam Aube]

Bill Mullen wrote:

>   I am running Mac  OS X 10.2.8, want Panther 10.3 etc  , have attempted
> to use the SUPRNOVA.org web page with out success.  I did download
> Python, but either I am not using it properly or I did not download the
> correct package.  When ever I attempt to open the Bit-Torrent, the icon
> appears when I click on it , then it fades out and nothing opens.  I
> hope some one can assist.

This is a list for users of Debian GNU/Linux - your question would be better
asked on a Mac OS user list, or a user list for whatever Bit-Torrent client
you are having problems with.

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Serious problem after tetex-security update

[Andreas Goesele]

Hi!

After the last security update with libkpathsea3 and tetex-bin my
LaTeX installation doesn't work any more. When I try to compile a
LaTeX file I get:

I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'!

What can I do to get a working LaTeX installation back? I urgently
need it!

Thanks a lot in advance!

Andreas Goesele

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Re: combining mp3s

[Maurits van Rees]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 04:02:29PM -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
> should I use to combine them?

You can try the package mp3wrap. From the man file:

  USAGE
  mp3wrap [options] OUTPUTFILE MP3FILE1 MP3FILE2 [MP3FILE3]...

  DESCRIPTION
  Mp3Wrap joins two or more mp3 files in one large playable mp3
  without losing filename and ID3 informations. You will obtain
  a file named OUTPUTFILE_MP3WRAP.mp3.

BTW, mp3splt (package mp3splt) does the reverse: cut an mp3 file in
several pieces.

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Re: su: Permission denied, (Ignored)

[martin f krafft]

also sprach Ben Hutchings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004.11.23.1442 +0100]:
> >stat64("/root", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=116, ...}) = 0
> >stat64(".", 0xba00) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
> >brk(0)  = 0x80ec000
> >brk(0x80ee000)  = 0x80ee000
> >getcwd("/root", 4096)   = 6
> >getpid()= 15728
> >getppid()   = 15727
> >stat64(".", 0xba30) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
> 
> >The failing call seems to be a stat of the CWD, which is /tmp,
> 
> 
> The cwd here is /root (though I don't see why) and collector presumably 
> doesn't have execute permission on /root so it can't even look up ".".

Yeah, this makes sense. But why is the cwd root? How can this
happen?

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Re: Upgrading from woody to ? sid

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 09:39:25PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I have woody installed but I'm starting to find packages are older than 
> (for example) kernel 2.6.9 seems to require.  I'm not sure what to do - do 
> I upgrade to sid?  

You could do that, or you could use one of the backports repositories
to get updated packages that you will need to have 2.6.x kernels to run.

module-init-tools will be one of those packages you'll need, I suspect.

You might like to start here:   http://www.backports.org/

> If I want to use unstable packages, do I just change stable to unstable in 
> my sources.lsit and let apt do the rest? 

Pretty much.

Be warned, it's called unstable for a reason. There are times when you
find that some things might break. It's rare, but it does happen.

Paul.


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Airlink+ wireless card

[stan]

I'm spending the holiday in Atlanta with my parents, and much to my
pleaseent suprise, Fryes has opened up a store ehre!

I bouthg a Airlink+ wireless card for $9.99 and I'm wondering if I can
make it work with Debian on my laptop.

Iy's got 00E098 DE1DC on the sticker.

Any pointers to get this working?

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Mac user/ needs assistance

[Bill Mullen]

Hello:
 I am running Mac  OS X 10.2.8, want Panther 10.3 etc  , have attempted 
to use the SUPRNOVA.org web page with out success.  I did download 
Python, but either I am not using it properly or I did not download the 
correct package.  When ever I attempt to open the Bit-Torrent, the icon 
appears when I click on it , then it fades out and nothing opens.  I 
hope some one can assist.

Thank you!!!
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Re: Firefox 1.0, mailto, and mutt

[Jim McCloskey]

I asked earlier:

|> I used mozex with earlier versions of Firefox to bring up mutt in
|> response to clicking on mailto links.
|>
|> Does anyone know of a way of doing this also with Firefox 1.0?

Thanks very much indeed to all who responded. I ended up using the
`launchy' extension. This proved troublesome at first because every
effort to use it failed with the error:

ExtensionsManager: _updateManifests: no access privileges to
application directory, skipping

Google revealed a number of queries about this error, but no consistent
way of solving it (that I could find, at least).

However, when I upgraded to the version of firefox in unstable, the
launchy extension worked as advertised, and the error disappeared.

The `launchy' extension seems more geared towards a Windows environment
(in that it automatically detects and configures certain clients). For
Linux, you have to edit a file `launchy.xml' in:

~USER/.firefox/default/X.slt/chrome/

but the instructions on how to do this are clear, and there are good
examples to follow.

Thanks once more to all who offered help,

Jim


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Upgrading from woody to ? sid

[joebosak]

I have woody installed but I'm starting to find packages are older than (for 
example) kernel 2.6.9 seems to require.  I'm not sure what to do - do I 
upgrade to sid?  How?  Or is this what 'unstable' is about? 

If I want to use unstable packages, do I just change stable to unstable in 
my sources.lsit and let apt do the rest? 


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Kernel - not syncing

[joebosak]

I've compiled a few kernels using 2.6.9.  ONe worked but I did not keep the 
config.  None of the ones I've done the Debian way (ie. through a deb file) 
boot.  The error message is: 

Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found.  Try passing init= option to 
kernel. 

Any ideas?  I do have one 2.6.9 kernel that doesn't do this - but like I 
said I don't have the configuration to hand.  Doing it on a 486, and 
compilation is taking 3-4 hours a shot, so I'm hoping someone can save me 
more tiral and error!

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Re: combining mp3s

[Michael Spang]

Patrick Wiseman wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0500, Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
should I use to combine them?

I've had success with a simple 'cat file1.mp3 file2.mp3 > file3.mp3',
but I'm sure there's something wrong with that!
Patrick

Well.. considering many players can play uncompressed RAR files with a 
bunch of mp3s in them, it's not surprising that this works. Though 
certainly the result doesn't follow the mp3 standard; it won't have 
correct headers at the beginning and will have extra headers in the 
middle of the file.

Michael Spang
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Re: debian cd boot parameters

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 18:44:37 -0200, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You boot with the rescue CD, mount your partion RW, chroot your
> > partition, cd to the chrooted partition and then you can try to fix
> > the MBR.
> 
> that's exactly the question, how to do it...
> the debian install cd is also a rescue cd right?
> 

Right, at the Lilo prompt press an F key, i don't recall which, i've
only used once or twice, there should be an option called "rescue",
boot the CD and you should have access to a shell (dash?) and from
there you can mount your partition, chroot, cd etc. etc.

> > Or  in the case only the MBR is broken, you can use a boot floppy, on
> > Debian there's a script called "grub-floppy" that you can use to
> > create one.
>
> i don't have a floppy drive
> 

You can try with a USB keychain then. =)


Andrea


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Re: combining mp3s

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:02:29 -0500, Rick Pasotto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
> should I use to combine them?

I've had success with a simple 'cat file1.mp3 file2.mp3 > file3.mp3',
but I'm sure there's something wrong with that!

Patrick


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about loading / blacklisting / ... modules

[Bram Mertens]

Hi

"With a little help from" this list I am now able to view the
boot-messages on my laptop.

After reading through this I realise I still have much too learn and
that there might be some problems with my current config.

Could you please take a look at these warnings/errors and let me know if
and how I should fix them?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:06 2004: bootlogd.
[...]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:08 2004: Calculating module dependencies... done.
Fri Nov 26 22:28:08 2004: Loading modules...
Fri Nov 26 22:28:08 2004: ide-cd
Fri Nov 26 22:28:08 2004: ide-generic
Fri Nov 26 22:28:08 2004: All modules loaded.
[...]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:09 2004: Detecting hardware: i810_tco 8139too piix
i810_audio usb_uhci ehci_hcd
Fri Nov 26 22:28:09 2004: Skipping unavailable/built-in i810_tco module.

>> If I understand this correctly the i810_tco module should be loaded
because hardware requiring this has been detected but the module isn't
available.
Where can I read about all these modules (what they do, when they're
needed etc.)?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:09 2004: Loading 8139too module.
Fri Nov 26 22:28:10 2004: Skipping already loaded module piix.

>> Messages like these can be ignored right?  I assume it just means a
certain module is requested twice but only loaded once.

Fri Nov 26 22:28:10 2004: Loading i810_audio module.
Fri Nov 26 22:28:11 2004: Skipping unavailable/built-in usb_uhci module.

>> I don't understand why usb_uhci isn't marked as blacklisted, in
/etc/hotplug/blacklist there's a line "usb-uhci" are these two different
modules or should the line in /etc/hotplug/blacklist be corrected?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:11 2004: Loading ehci_hcd module.
[...]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004: Starting hotplug subsystem:
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:input   
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:  evbug: blacklisted
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:  evdev: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:  evbug: blacklisted
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:  evdev: already loaded

>> Again I don't suppose it matters much but why are these modules
listed twice?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:input[success]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:isapnp  
Fri Nov 26 22:28:13 2004:  rtc: loaded sucessfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:14 2004:  pcspkr: loaded sucessfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:15 2004:  psmouse: loaded sucessfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:18 2004: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting floppy
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-1-686/kernel/drivers/block/floppy.ko): No such
device
Fri Nov 26 22:28:18 2004: 
Fri Nov 26 22:28:18 2004:  floppy: can't be loaded

>> the modprobe: FATAL scared me a bit at first but since this laptop
doesn't contain a floppy drive I assume it doesn't matter much... Or am
I wrong?  Is there a way (other than to compile my own kernel) to
prevent my system from trying to load this module?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:isapnp   [success]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:net 
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:net  [success]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:pci 
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:  intel-agp: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:  intel-mch-agp: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:  shpchp: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:19 2004:  pciehp: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:21 2004:  uhci-hcd: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:22 2004:  uhci-hcd: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:22 2004:  uhci-hcd: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004:  uhci-hcd: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004:  ehci-hcd: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004:  shpchp: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004:  pciehp: already loaded

>> Another set of modules loaded several times, is this reason for
concern?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004: modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting hw_random
(/lib/modules/2.6.8-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/hw_random.ko): No such
device
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004: 
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004:  hw_random: can't be loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:23 2004: missing kernel or user mode driver hw_random 

>> Now this is what's bothering me most, should I worry about not being
able to load hw_random?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:24 2004:  i8xx_tco: blacklisted
Fri Nov 26 22:28:24 2004:  piix: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:25 2004:  snd-intel8x0: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:25 2004:  i810_audio: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:26 2004:  snd-intel8x0m: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:26 2004:  ignoring pci display device on 01:00.0

>> I am not sure this is related to modules, should I look into this?

Fri Nov 26 22:28:26 2004:  yenta_socket: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:27 2004:  yenta_socket: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:27 2004:  ohci1394: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:28 2004:  8139too: already loaded
Fri Nov 26 22:28:28 2004:  8139cp: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:28 2004:  prism54: loaded successfully
Fri Nov 26 22:28:28 2004:pci  [success]
Fri Nov 26 22:28:28 2004:usb 
Fri Nov 26 22:28:30 2004:  usbhid: already loa

Installer for Woody hangs

[Rothwellc9]

  
Hello I have an installation related problem with debian 3(Woody). I am 
totally new to linux
and have probably done something stupid ,but very early in the installation 
process the installer hangs. My machine has a Pentium 4, an Intel D915G 
motherboard,1 hard disk and a CDROM .
 
The last few lines of output from the installer:
 
    
PCI_IDE  unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 
00 
device f9 VID=8086,DID=266f    
PCI_IDE  not 100% native mode : will probe IRQS 
later  
    
ide0:  BM-DMA at 0xffa0 - 0xffa7, BIOS 
settings:    
hda: DMA , hdb: 
PIO    
ide1:  BM-DMA at 0xffa8 - 0xffaf, BIOS 
settings:    
hdc: PIO  ,hdd: PIO    
PCI_IDE:  unknown controller on PCI bus 
00  
device fa,VID=8086,DID=2651    
    
PCI_IDE:  100% native mode on irq 10
 
    ide2: 
BM_DMA at 0xd800-d807 BIOS 
settings: 
hde:DMA  
hdf:PIO 
hdg:PIO    hdh:PIO 
 
    hda: _NEC DVD_RWND 2510A ATAPI 
CDROM DRIVE    hde: ST380013AS ATA 
Disk Drive    ide0 at 0x1f0 - 
0x1f7,0x3f6 on IRQ 14  
 
    MACHINE HANGS.
 
I have tried to install using the old 2.4 core and this is almost 
sucessful.A warning appears towards the end ot the installation:
 
    
" Virtual device mapping   Your first IDE hard disk is not 
connected as the primary master device   (/dev/hda). To get around 
this most BIOS setups enable emulation so that the    first disk 
is seen as IDE-0 in the boot environment. This emulation cannot   
be detected by Linux or LILO. However,we can define /dev/hde as the first 
   hard disk in the LILO configuration to allow LILO to take 
advantage of the   emulation. Would you like to enable the 
mapping?"
 
When I finally boot the 2.4 core, I get a barrage of interrupts like 
this:
 
   "unexpected interrupt ide2 status=0xd0 
count =371"
 
The real device at hde2(which seems to be a DMA device from the installer 
screen info)seems to be generating interrupts that aren't trapped but, linux 
thinks hde2 is my swappartition. Why does linux set my hard disk to hde 
and not hda? And is there anything I can do about it?
 
Any help gratefully accepted
 
Chris Rothwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: combining mp3s

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 16:02 -0500, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
> should I use to combine them?

apt-cache is your friend!

$ apt-cache search join mp3
mpgtx - Toolbox to manipulate MPEG files (video, system, and audio)
quelcom - Command line editing tools for MP3 and WAV files

$ apt-cache show quelcom
Package: quelcom
[snip]
Description: Command line editing tools for MP3 and WAV files
 Quelcom provides assorted tools to perform simple editing
 operations on MP3 and WAV audio files.  These include
 fading, check-and-clean, informational extraction and
 lossless cutting and joining without reencoding.


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Re: Installation problem with Woody

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 15:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello I have an installation related problem with debian 3(Woody). I
> am totally new to linux
> and have probably done something stupid ,but very early in the
> installation process the installer hangs. My machine has a Pentium 4,
> an Intel D915G motherboard,1 hard disk and a CDROM .
[snip]

I'd suggest you try to install Sarge instead of Woody, since it 
is up-to-date, and Woody is about 2 years old.  Sarge is also much
easier to install.

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Re: where are debian boot-messages logged?

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 21:42 +0100, Bram Mertens wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 11:53, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Bram Mertens  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> with non-i386 you probably refer to AMD etc.?  This laptop is an i686
> and I had no problem booting.

AMD CPUs up to and including the AMD64 (in 32 bit mode) definitely
*are* i386.

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[OT] Splitting multipage TIFF files

[Stephen Tait]

Hi all!
A client has landed us with a bunch of CD's containing several large 
multipage TIFF images. I ran them through our usual conversion tools 
(namely a find script that passes the images through tiffsplit), and all 
seemed fine and dandy.

However, on inspecting the output, it seems that half of the files are JPEG 
encoded in a TIFF wrapper, which tiffsplit can't handle, and neither can 
our £5000-worth of Adobe Capture. The result is a garblified TIFF that I 
can't even render, let alone OCR.

A google returned the following snippet from the libtiff mailing list:
==
2004.02.26 10:27 "Re: tiffsplit & JPEG compression", by Andrey Kiselev
On Wed, Feb 25, 2004 at 06:13:04PM +0300, Artem Mirolubov wrote:
> tiffsplit dont copy pages with JPEG compression.
> what tags i must copy with CopyField, to add such support?
I have fixed that problem, thank you for report. We need to copy
contents of the TIFFTAG_JPEGTABLES tag.
> And what tags i must copy, to add support of TIFF files with JPEG
> compression version 6.0 specification (Plz dont tell i dont need it. I
> really need it! And i defined "never" in "tif_ojpeg.c":) ?
Well, if you have enough sample files you can experiment with all tags,
defined in ojpegFieldInfo (see tif_ojpeg.c file).
Best regards,
Andrey
==
Alot of that is greek to me, but it seems that the gist is that JPEG-TIFF 
support has been added.

Does anyone know if these changes have made it into the current versions of 
the Debian TIFF utils? Or do I need to build myself a customised TIFF 
library (argh!)? Failing that, does anyone know of any alternate way to 
batch-convert JPEG-TIFF's (preferably in Linux)? I've already tried using 
imagemagick, but it has some serious problems dealing with multipage TIFFs 
(namely trying to do all 80MB of a file at once, and running the system 
into the ground).

If anyone out there has more of a clue than me, I'd be much obliged!

combining mp3s

[Rick Pasotto]

I have serveral mp3s that really should be a single file. What program
should I use to combine them?

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saying, in other words, that he is wiser today than he was yesterday.
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Installation problem with Woody

[Rothwellc9]

Hello I have an installation related problem with debian 3(Woody). I am 
totally new to linux
and have probably done something stupid ,but very early in the installation 
process the installer hangs. My machine has a Pentium 4, an Intel D915G 
motherboard,1 hard disk and a CDROM .
 
The last few lines of output from the installer:
 
    
PCI_IDE  unknown IDE controller on PCI bus 
00 
device f9 VID=8086,DID=266f    
PCI_IDE  not 100% native mode : will probe IRQS 
later  
    
ide0:  BM-DMA at 0xffa0 - 0xffa7, BIOS 
settings:    
hda: DMA , hdb: 
PIO    
ide1:  BM-DMA at 0xffa8 - 0xffaf, BIOS 
settings:    
hdc: PIO  ,hdd: PIO    
PCI_IDE:  unknown controller on PCI bus 
00  
device fa,VID=8086,DID=2651    
    
PCI_IDE:  100% native mode on irq 10
 
    ide2: 
BM_DMA at 0xd800-d807 BIOS 
settings: 
hde:DMA  
hdf:PIO 
hdg:PIO    hdh:PIO 
 
    hda: _NEC DVD_RWND 2510A ATAPI 
CDROM DRIVE    hde: ST380013AS ATA 
Disk Drive    ide0 at 0x1f0 - 
0x1f7,0x3f6 on IRQ 14  
 
    MACHINE HANGS.
 
I have tried to install using the old 2.4 core and this is almost 
sucessful.A warning appears towards the end ot the installation:
 
    
" Virtual device mapping   Your first IDE hard disk is not 
connected as the primary master device   (/dev/hda). To get around 
this most BIOS setups enable emulation so that the    first disk 
is seen as IDE-0 in the boot environment. This emulation cannot   
be detected by Linux or LILO. However,we can define /dev/hde as the first 
   hard disk in the LILO configuration to allow LILO to take 
advantage of the   emulation. Would you like to enable the 
mapping?"
 
When I finally boot the 2.4 core, I get a barrage of interrupts like 
this:
 
   "unexpected interrupt ide2 status=0xd0 
count =371"
 
The real device at hde2(which seems to be a DMA device from the installer 
screen info)seems to be generating interrupts that aren't trapped but, linux 
thinks hde2 is my swappartition. Why does linux set my hard disk to hde 
and not hda? And is there anything I can do about it?
 
Any help gratefully accepted
 
Chris Rothwell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: Problem of compiling kernel

[Eduard Bosma]

hi,

I had the same problem once..It turned out the fan of the processor gave
out, so the heat of the processor caused the same symptoms..So my 2
cents: check the hardware...

Eduard

On Thu, 2004-11-25 at 17:04, Lian Liming wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just have problem of compiling kernel. The standard debian way of 
> compiling kernel is using the make-kpkg. But i never successfully 
> compile any kernel(2.6.*) on my box(AMD althon1400, 256DDR, 40IDE hard 
> disk).
> 
> What strange is that there is different error on different  time. 
> The compiling error occur on a different C file every time. So i think 
> it should not be the bug of the kernel source. There are maybe something 
> wrong with my compiling enviroment.
> 
>As if there is error when using make-kpkg, you should start from the 
> beginning. So i try download the kernel source  and compile it as the 
> common linux way:
>first "make menuconfig", and then "make && make modules_install". I 
> do successfully compile kernel.
> 
>But there is another error: When boot using the new compiled kernel, 
> it stop at the following message:
> --
>fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/hda1
>  
> 
>The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
>filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
>filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
>   is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate
>   superblock:
>  e2fsck -b 8193 
> 
>  
> My /dev/hda1 is surely using ext2, and i compiling the "ext2 filesystem" 
> support in kernel.
> Following is my /etc/fstab:
> 
> ---
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> #
> proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
> /dev/hda3   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0   1
> /dev/hda1   /boot   ext2defaults0   2
> /dev/hda2   noneswapsw  0   0
> /dev/hdd/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
> 
> 
> And my kernel config is attached for this mail.
> 
> Can anyone give some suggestion on what is the possible wrong?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> __
> #
> # Automatically generated make config: don't edit
> # Linux kernel version: 2.6.9
> # Sat Nov 20 00:40:27 2004
> #
> CONFIG_X86=y
> CONFIG_MMU=y
> CONFIG_UID16=y
> CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
> CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
> 
> #
> # Code maturity level options
> #
> CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
> CONFIG_CLEAN_COMPILE=y
> CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
> 
> #
> # General setup
> #
> CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
> CONFIG_SWAP=y
> CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
> CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
> CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT=y
> # CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT_V3 is not set
> CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
> # CONFIG_AUDIT is not set
> CONFIG_LOG_BUF_SHIFT=14
> CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
> # CONFIG_IKCONFIG is not set
> # CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
> CONFIG_KALLSYMS=y
> # CONFIG_KALLSYMS_EXTRA_PASS is not set
> CONFIG_FUTEX=y
> CONFIG_EPOLL=y
> CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
> CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
> CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
> CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
> # CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set
> CONFIG_SHMEM=y
> # CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set
> 
> #
> # Loadable module support
> #
> CONFIG_MODULES=y
> CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
> CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
> CONFIG_OBSOLETE_MODPARM=y
> CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
> CONFIG_KMOD=y
> 
> #
> # Processor type and features
> #
> CONFIG_X86_PC=y
> # CONFIG_X86_ELAN is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_VOYAGER is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_NUMAQ is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set
> # CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set
> # CONFIG_M386 is not set
> # CONFIG_M486 is not set
> # CONFIG_M586 is not set
> # CONFIG_M586TSC is not set
> # CONFIG_M586MMX is not set
> # CONFIG_M686 is not set
> # CONFIG_MPENTIUMII is not set
> # CONFIG_MPENTIUMIII is not set
> # CONFIG_MPENTIUMM is not set
> # CONFIG_MPENTIUM4 is not set
> # CONFIG_MK6 is not set
> CONFIG_MK7=y
> # CONFIG_MK8 is not set
> # CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
> # CONFIG_MWINCHIPC6 is not set
> # CONFIG_MWINCHIP2 is not set
> # CONFIG_MWINCHIP3D is not set
> # CONFIG_MCYRIXIII is not set
> # CONFIG_MVIAC3_2 is not set
> CONFIG_X86_GENERIC=y
> CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG=y
> CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
> CONFIG_X86_L1_CACHE_SHIFT=7
> CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
> CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
> CONFI

Re: where are debian boot-messages logged?

[Bram Mertens]

On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 11:53, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Bram Mertens  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On my desktop (running SuSE 8.2) the messages printed to tty1 when the
> >machine is booting are stored in /var/log/boot.msg.  On my laptop I
> >can't find any file in /var/log/ that contains these messages.
> 
> Suse uses bootlogd for that. If you're running testing/unstable
> you can edit /etc/default/bootlogd and enable bootlogd. The
> output will be in /var/log/boot.

Thanks, setting BOOTLOGD_ENABLE to Yes did the trick!

> The reason that this is off by default is that it makes some
> systems unbootable, esp non-i386 machines with serial consoles.

with non-i386 you probably refer to AMD etc.?  This laptop is an i686
and I had no problem booting.

Thanks Miquel, Maurits, Andreas and René!
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# SuSE Linux 8.2 (i586) kernel 2.4.20-4GB  i686 512MB RAM #
#  9:39pm  up 13 days 12:22,  10 users,  load average: 0.23, 0.11, 0.04 #


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Re: debian cd boot parameters

[Andrea Vettorello]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:41:37 -0200, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi. I am willing to install a second operating system on one of my
> partitions and am afraid that it will scramble my disk boot sector.
> In case this happens, how can i recover it later?
> I could boot into my linux through the cd and run grub-install to
> reinstall my boot sector...
> Unfortunately I haven't been able to boot using the cd...
> I use the line: linux root=/dev/hda8 (my / partition) but i get a
> kernel panic for having no valid root on hda8... is this because I
> have an ext3 partition and the cd kernel does not support it?
> How can I do it?

You boot with the rescue CD, mount your partion RW, chroot your
partition, cd to the chrooted partition and then you can try to fix
the MBR.

Or  in the case only the MBR is broken, you can use a boot floppy, on
Debian there's a script called "grub-floppy" that you can use to
create one.


Andrea


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Re: Problem of compiling kernel

[Michael Spang]

Lian Liming wrote:

Perhaps you need to compile an initrd and you forgot to give the
--initrd
option to make-kpkg...
 

This is something confusing me so long. Is it neccessary to make the 
initrd file?
I just remember that i have read quite a lot articles about compiling 
kernel on Linux, a lot of them do not tell that you must make the initrd 
file.
I don't check the "RAM disk support" when "make meuconfig". Then should 
i really need to add the step of  making initrd file?

Any suggestions are appreciated!

Make sure to select your root disk driver and root filesystem as 
built-ins and you won't need to worry about an initrd.

Michael Spang
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Re: How do you make mkinitrd work!?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Michael Spang wrote:
Benedict Verheyen wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Good point. So what's the reason that debian kernel images come with 
an initrd? An example I can think of is vesafb: in order for that to 
be used it must be either builtin or in initrd. Right?

H.


The kernels Debian provides need to run on a broad number of machines 
hence the use
of an initrd which loads the modules needed for a particular machine.

Benedict

Exactly. Vesafb is not really the best example--it's there, but the 
initrd's job is to get your root filesystem mounted. I believe you can 
still use vesafb as a module without it being in the initrd, it just 
gets loaded later in the boot process. If we take a look at a stock 
debian kernel's initrd, we'd see modules for ide disk drives, raid 
arrays, scsi disk drives, tons of filesystems, and a bunch of 
miscellaneous drivers. Without an initrd to give the kernel access to 
these modules, they would all have to be built in leaving all users with 
a gigantic kernel with many unneeded built-in features.

Michael Spang

Good explanation. Thanks.
H
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Re: d-i rc2: boot linux26 vs. default

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Joey Hess wrote:
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
Hi Debian!
I have problems with the Sarge d-i freezing on my system using the 
"linux26" boot option.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=277177
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=278254
Yesterday tried rc2: same thing. Freezes at "installing partitioner".
BUT: using the default, no boot options, works ok. It installs 2.4.27.
Question:
Linux26 installs 2.6.8.1 which I would not use anyway. What is the 
difference between using the d-i default, then installing the 2.6.9 
kernel image,

and
using the linux26 option (if it worked) and *then* installing the 2.6.9 
kernel image?

There must be more differences than just the kernel image, otherwise why 
would it consistently hang using linux26?

Booting with linux26 causes the installer to run using a 2.6 kernel.
FWIW, today I booted rc2 2x in expert26 and 1x in linux26 with success.
Yesterday linux26 hung in "setting up makedev"
11/24/2004 linux26 hung once in "Installing Partitioner" and once in 
"DEBUG: virtual package HD detection".
I am keeping a list of when OK and when not: same rc2, same system, same 
partition.


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Re: disappointment with linux icq clients

[housetier]

Moin!

> Hi... Does anybody else have the feeling that simply no linux icq
> client that is available nowadays fits your needs?

I have found that bitlbee fits my needs. It might be worth a look at,
it might be a waste of time. Just wanted to show one more "client" :)


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Re: disappointment with linux icq clients

[William Ballard]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 04:58:49PM -0200, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote:
> licq, gaim, kopete, they all have this strange interface...
> nothing is simple to do or to find...

I don't find them the least bit strange.  Perfectly intutive.  Enter 
connection parameters, connect, talk.  Goes beep beep, window pops up 
with conversation, talk.

I suppose you want little thought bubbles to pop up in the corner of 
your screen on top of your other apps.  You're probably having trouble 
with your window manager.


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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Alfredo Cole]

El Vie 26 Nov 2004 12:15, Roel Schroeven escribió:
(...)
> --
> "Codito ergo sum"
> Roel Schroeven

If you are trying to quote Descartes, then it is "Cogito ergo sum". Otherwise, 
forget it.

Regards.

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Re: xserver cpu load on 2.6 kernels

[Alexei Chetroi]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 10:13:32AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:13:32 -0600
> From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Debian-User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: xserver cpu load on 2.6 kernels
> 
> On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:48 +0200, Alexei Chetroi wrote:
> > 
> >  I'm running Debian testing on Acer travelmate 354 laptop. When running
> > on 2.4 kernels, cpu load is about 0% when windowmaker is loaded and
> > idle. But, when running kernel 2.6.9, wmcube and wmtop shows me, that
> > xfree86 eats about 23% of cpu when idle, and about 40-60% when moving
 [snip]

> Are you using the fb, and maybe don't have something important
> compiled into the 2.6.9 kernel?
  I'm using kernel 2.6.9 from unstable, tried 2.6.8 also with exactly
the same problem. I don't explicitly load fb device. lsmod shows me
fbcon, font and vesafb modules loaded, which I can unload. greping
through /var/log/XFree86.0.log gives me this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ egrep -i '(fb|framebuffer)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log
(**) TRIDENT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(**) TRIDENT(0): Option "ShadowFB" "false"
(==) TRIDENT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x8080
(II) Loading sub module "fb"
(II) LoadModule: "fb"
(II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a
(II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

in XFree86-4 I have following relevant sections:
Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"glx"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
Load"xtt"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier  "Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1"
Driver  "trident"
Option  "CyberShadow"   "false"
Option  "ShadowFB"  "false"
Option  "SWcursor"  "false"
Option  "PciRetry"  "true"
Option  "NoPciBurst""true"
Option  "NoAccel"   "false"
EndSection

What does't it mean submodule? Does "trident" modules depend on fb?

> What XFree video driver are you using?
I use trident driver. lcpci gives me this:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: ALi Corporation M1621 (rev 01)
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: ALi Corporation PCI to AGP Controller (rev 01)
:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: ALi Corporation M5451 PCI AC-Link 
Controller Audio Device (rev 01)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge [Aladdin IV]
:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 
08)
:00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AA22 IEEE-1394 
Controller (PHY/Link Integrated) (rev 02)
:00:10.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c3)
:00:11.0 Bridge: ALi Corporation M7101 Power Management Controller [PMU]
:00:13.0 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
:00:13.1 CardBus bridge: O2 Micro, Inc. OZ6933 Cardbus Controller (rev 02)
:00:14.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Trident Microsystems CyberBlade/i1 (rev 
5d


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disappointment with linux icq clients

[Frederico Rodrigues Abraham]

Hi... Does anybody else have the feeling that simply no linux icq
client that is available nowadays fits your needs?
licq, gaim, kopete, they all have this strange interface...
nothing is simple to do or to find...
i wish there was a miranda port for linux... that would be nice
-- Fred


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Re: xserver cpu load on 2.6 kernels

[Martin Hauser]

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Helllo Alexei,

>  I'm running Debian testing on Acer travelmate 354 laptop. When running
> on 2.4 kernels, cpu load is about 0% when windowmaker is loaded and
> idle. But, when running kernel 2.6.9, wmcube and wmtop shows me, that
> xfree86 eats about 23% of cpu when idle, and about 40-60% when moving
> mouse pointer. What is wrong?
> 

Hmm... this is now a mere guessing by me, but i had a similiar effect
here on my IBM thinkpad. Could the Problem be related to some APM/ACPI
interrupt stuff? For me was it as i first used the 2.6 series of the
kernel with APM enabled instead of acpi, i would move the mouse and a
second later it'd be out of sync and my cpu on max load.

But as i do not really know about your notebook, this is, as said, just
a guess.

Greets

Martin Hauser
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Re: Help: dselect screwed up!

[David Mandelberg]

Can you boot KNOPPIX or another livecd and see if it's a filesystem
problem or a software problem? If it's a software problem, just
reinstall the dpkg, apt, and dselect deb's using the livecd.

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Help: dselect screwed up!

[MagicWind]

I am using debian sarge, and i use dselect to install softwares.  However, when 
i tried to install the mysql-server component and followed all of the 
suggestions to solve dependence conflicts, (which added about 5 or 6 other 
components). When it proceeded to the configure step, the screen rolled up with 
many mistakes, and at the bottom saying "Unknown error 900", followed by a 
segmentation error, then my filesystem(which is xfs) halted.
I rebooted and checked my filesystem carefully and found a nearly 2GB file 
named "available" in /var/lib/dpkg/,  I thought it was the prob and deleted it. 
 However, i still cannot use dselect(and of course any tools of dpkg-***) which 
always returns a "segmentation fault" and halts.  Any idea?

Re: how does mutt send?

[Richard Lyons]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 02:44:07PM +, Stephen Patterson wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:50:10 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> > This may be wrong, but it seems to work.  If I add INBOX to folder, then
> > when I try to navigate back to the inbox from elsewhere, and [tab] on
> > the IMAP item in the list it offers me imap:.place.net/INBOX/INBOX
> > which is to say it appends {'/' . $mailboxes} to $folder.  That means that
> > even if I make $mailboxes null, I still get the extra '/' and cannot
> > open the inbox.  The way I did it, I can both navigate back to INBOX and
> > save copies of sent mail to Sent.  It is not congruent with any
> > instructions I have seen anywhere else, but it works for me.
> 
> I find that mutt works better with imap if INBOX doesn't contain
> messages, but is instead a folder containing only message
> folders. This way I can use the C key to browse the full folder
> structure (not just the ones named by the 'mailboxes' option).

That was exactly the position I was in originally - unable to see the
contents of INBOX, but only able to see the folders inside it.  Now I
can see both.  For me, this is more convenient at the moment -- until I
learn how to set up procmail...

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 19:15 +0100, Roel Schroeven wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > 
> >>I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
> >>downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
> >>6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
> >>show "COPY" on every page.
> >>
> >>Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.
> > 
> > 
> > Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
> > for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
> > PDFs for it?
> 
> I think the problem is not that Canon made a PDF for Reader 6.0, but 
> that they added some kind of copy protection that is only supported by 
> Reader 6.0. Which, IMO, is quite stupid since there is no need to copy 
> protect those manuals.

One word: lawyers.

Killing all the lawyers would be a very bad thing, so lets just
kill 80% of them.

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PGP Key ID 8834C06B I prefer encrypted mail.

There is no "right of journalists to keep sources confidential"
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debian cd boot parameters

[Frederico Rodrigues Abraham]

Hi. I am willing to install a second operating system on one of my
partitions and am afraid that it will scramble my disk boot sector.
In case this happens, how can i recover it later?
I could boot into my linux through the cd and run grub-install to
reinstall my boot sector...
Unfortunately I haven't been able to boot using the cd...
I use the line: linux root=/dev/hda8 (my / partition) but i get a
kernel panic for having no valid root on hda8... is this because I
have an ext3 partition and the cd kernel does not support it?
How can I do it?
Thanks
-- Fred


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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Roel Schroeven]

Ron Johnson wrote:
On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
show "COPY" on every page.
Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.

Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
PDFs for it?
I think the problem is not that Canon made a PDF for Reader 6.0, but 
that they added some kind of copy protection that is only supported by 
Reader 6.0. Which, IMO, is quite stupid since there is no need to copy 
protect those manuals.

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Roel Schroeven
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Re: determining who is a registered user in your system

[Antonio Rodriguez]

> > Can the root remove h[i,e][m,r]self from the system?
> 
> Of course - just remove the entries from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
> However, I would strongly recommend you NOT do this (unless you want to
> cripple your system).
> 
> Adam

I wouldn't do it, I am trying to understand better the guts of the
system than I have so far understood. Thank you for the advice anyway,
you never know what could come to mind after a turkey night.


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Mosix and Open Mosix package in sarge/sid

[UnKnown]

Hi, ppl
This mail is just to find out if anyone knows what happend with the *mosix
packages in the feuture releases of debian, sarge and sid. I found they are
not part of the distribution, and wontet to know if that was "terminal" or
they were being held for some reason.

cheers,
rak


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Re: Switching from X to ttys

[Shan Mignot]

I'v tried several things. First of all, I added:

Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "DontVTSwitch"  "false"
Option  "DontZoom"  "false"
Option  "DisableVidModeExtension" "false"
EndSection

to my XF86Config and checked that these options were recognized correctly in
/var/log/XFree86.0.log.

Then, of course, nothing changed for switching to VT, nor could I zoom. So I
thought, maybe X has reconfigured my keyboard somehow and interprets the
Crtl-Alt sequence differently. But then, Ctrl-Alt-Del did shut the X server
down, so that may not be the case.

I started suspecting the problem may indeed come from the X server. I run the
latest version (4.3.0.dfsg.1-8) but, as CRT did not work then, I installed the
enhanced GATOS ati.2 driver on top of it. The overall behavior is satisfactory
but not without bugs: DRI works, CRT works if the cable is plugged at boot
time.
 Could it be that the console problem (as the zooming problem) is related to
that ?

Maybe I should try to revert to the pristine X server distributed by debian
first to check that out. I'm a bit reluctuant to break the DRI though. I'll
keep you posted anyways.

Besides, you are right Alt+Fn suffices to change tty in the console, I had just
never realised that.

Thanks,

Shan
Selon Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:06:29 +0100,
> Shan Mignot wrote:
> >
> > All right, here is how things behave:
> >
> > * as a normal user (shan):
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 2
> > Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> > zsh: exit 1 chvt 2
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 1
> > Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> > zsh: exit 1 chvt 2
> >
> > * as root things work just fine and from the tty I can change tty using
> > Ctrl+Al+Fn
>
> Forgot about that, but yes, it only works as root also for me.
>
> Switching ttys in the console should work with only Alt-Fn, no control.
>
> Look in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and see if you have a SERVERFLAGS section
> with an entry
>
>Option "DontVTSwitch"  "true"
>
> If you have then remove it, and if you don't try adding
>
>Option "DontVTSwitch"  "false"
>
> and see if it works (you may need to add the serverflags section for this).
>
>
> >
> > Here an except from ls in /dev:
> >
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 0 2004-10-08 10:49 tty0
> > crw---  1 shan tty  4, 1 2004-11-26 16:02 tty1
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 2 2004-11-26 16:02 tty2
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 3 2004-11-26 11:10 tty3
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 4 2004-11-26 11:10 tty4
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 5 2004-11-26 11:10 tty5
> > crw---  1 root root 4, 6 2004-11-26 11:10 tty6
> > crw--w  1 root root 4, 7 2004-11-26 16:02 tty7
> > crw--w  1 root root 4, 8 2000-07-05 19:43 tty8
> > crw--w  1 root root 4, 9 2000-07-05 19:43 tty9
> >
> > Could it be that the permissions are not right ? But then why won't it work
> > while shan is the owner of tty1 ?
> >
> > I've also taken a look in the XF86Config-4 file and haven't seen anything
> like
> > disabling that behavior. Any idea what it would look like ?
> >
> > Any further idea ?
> > Thanks a lot for your help.
> >
> > Shan
> >
> >
> > Selon Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:41 +0100,
> > > Shan Mignot wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > For some time now I have not been able to switch to other ttys.
> Pressing
> > > > Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... F6 simply does not result in anything. I've seen
> somewhere
> > > that
> > > > it may be related to the console-tools, console-data and console-common
> > > packages
> > > > but I have no idea how. Looking at my /etc/inittab, I don't see any
> reason
> > > why
> > > > switching should not work and beside, if I kill gdm then several ttys
> exist
> > > and
> > > > I can switch between them as of old.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Try as a start to do "chvt 1" and see if that switches (just to make sure
> it
> > > works).
> > >
> > > Its also possible to disable that behavier in XF86Config-4, could it be
> that
> > > you
> > > disabled it?
> > >
> > > > Any Idea ?
> > > >
> > > > Shan
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
> > > > # $Id: inittab,v 1.8 1998/05/10 10:37:50 miquels Exp $
> > > >
> > > > # The default runlevel.
> > > > id:2:initdefault:
> > > >
> > > > # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
> > > > # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
> > > > si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
> > > >
> > > > # What to do in single-user mode.
> > > > ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin
> > > >
> > > > # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
> > > > # of runlevel.
> > > > #
> > > > # Runlevel 0 is halt.
> > > > # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
> > > > # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
> > > > # Runlevel 6 is reboot.
> > > >
> > > > l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
> > > > l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d

Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Anthony Campbell]

On 26 Nov 2004, David Dorward wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:20:45 +, Anthony Campbell
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
> > 6.0, which is not available for Linux
> 
> So Canon sell you a print manual. You lose it. You get a free
> electronic replacement, and it doesn't work on a minority OS which CAN
> view documents written for earlier versions of the same software. So
> you lambast them on a forum which they probably don't read.
> 
> How about you raise your concerns with Canon instead of complaining
> behind their backs? They might do something about it.
> 
> (Does Acrobat Reader 6 work in under WINE? That might be another
> solution to the problem.)
> 

I've now found that it does open with gv, surprisingly.

I accept I may have posted in a moment of irritation but I have
downloaded a number of other manuals for other products at different
times and none of them has ever required a particular viewer previously.
I don't think that it requires exceptional benevolence on the part of
manufacturers to provide PDFs of their manuals on their websites, since
this will presumably encourage people to buy their products if they know
they can obtain such information in the future.

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[David Dorward]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 17:20:45 +, Anthony Campbell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
> 6.0, which is not available for Linux

So Canon sell you a print manual. You lose it. You get a free
electronic replacement, and it doesn't work on a minority OS which CAN
view documents written for earlier versions of the same software. So
you lambast them on a forum which they probably don't read.

How about you raise your concerns with Canon instead of complaining
behind their backs? They might do something about it.

(Does Acrobat Reader 6 work in under WINE? That might be another
solution to the problem.)

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Re: Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:20 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
> downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
> 6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
> show "COPY" on every page.
> 
> Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.

Jeez, I think you're overreacting a bit.  Reader 6.0 has been out
for a while now.  Is it any wonder that companies are generating 
PDFs for it?

The people you should vent your spleen to is Adobe.  Then, send
them a nice letter asking for a Linux version of Reader 7.0.

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Re: Pam Errors

[Adam Aube]

Please stop top-posting (which is putting your reply above the original
message), as it makes the thread difficult to follow.

Simon Collyer wrote:
> Adam Aube wrote:

>> These PAM settings look fine. What's in /etc/nsswitch.conf?

> # /etc/nsswitch.conf

[remainder of file snipped]

Those settings also look fine. This does not appear to be a
misconfiguration. Try reinstalling the PAM libraries (all one line):

dpkg -l | grep "libpam" | awk '{print $2}' | xargs apt-get install
--reinstall

This won't help you figure out what broke, but it should fix it. If you want
to find out exactly what the problem is, run 'su' under 'strace' to see
where the errors occur.

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Re: problem during boot-up

[Adam Aube]

jack kinnon wrote:

> Starting system log daemon : syslogd
> syslogd : cannot create /dev/log : address family not supported by
> protocol

I'm going to take a wild guess that you are running a custom kernel that is
missing Unix socket support (CONFIG_UNIX).

Adam


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Re: determining who is a registered user in your system

[s. keeling]

Incoming from Antonio Rodriguez:
> > > Whats the command to determine who is a registered user in your
> > > system, or to gather stats about them, such as registration time, etc?
> > 
> > What do you mean by "registered user"?
> 
> Good question, hmm, the ones that you can unregister with deluser?

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Re: Script to Set Environment Variable?

[Andreas Janssen]

Hello

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> How do I write a script to set an environment variable?
> 
> I feel like I should know this. I want to set my PATH in pbuilder &
> the author suggested using an "A" hook. However, I can't create a hook
> - an executable - which sets an environment variable.
> 
> I tried:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH
> 
> and just:
> 
> export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH
> 
> but in either case, calling ./A10hook doesn't change my environment
> variable. I hope I'm just missing something foolishly obvious.

Yes. The script is run in a subshell, sets the variable, and when the
script is finished, the subshell terminates. You need to set the
variable in the current shell. Run

. ./A10hook

best regards
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Re: Script to Set Environment Variable?

[s. keeling]

Incoming from [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> How do I write a script to set an environment variable?

Understand that you're trying to define something that will be
available to the current process, and all children of that process.
Already existing processes won't know about it, and after that process
exits, the newly defined value disappears.

> I feel like I should know this. I want to set my PATH in pbuilder & the 
> author suggested using an "A" hook. However, I can't create a hook - an 
> executable - which sets an environment variable.
> 
> I tried:
> 
>   #!/bin/sh
>   export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH

#!/bin/sh
export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH
now_run_something & # <-- new value of PATH will be visible to this.

Also, consider:

   COLUMNS=120 dpkg -l

That defines a new value to COLUMNS for that one invocation of dpkg
only.  No export necessary, and the new definition disappears when
that dpkg process exits.


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Re: freetype "xfontsel"

[Clive Menzies]

On (26/11/04 04:44), Olive Esseret wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is a utility analog to
> xfontsel but which allow to choose freetype font and
> show their name in the fontconfig format. This allow
> me to configure the fonts that icewm use for its
> interface.
Hi Olive

I've got xfontsel here on my sid system; it would appear to be provided
by the x-window-system-core but someone else may know better.

You could try typing xfontsel at the command line.

HTH

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Re: exim4 on sarge can't resolve hosts

[Joe]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes
I'm building a Sarge machine to replace a Woody, and I can't persuade 
exim4 to do host lookups. All attempts at sending outgoing mail fail 
with:

R=dnslookup defer (-1): host lookup did not complete.
Running exim4 -d -bt says that DNS lookup of abc.de (MX) gave TRY_AGAIN.
All other programs (as far as I can see) have no trouble using DNS. The 
Woody machine running exim3, using the same local DNS cache, has no 
problems.

I vaguely recall having similar problems with exim3 long ago, which I 
think were solved by removing bydns from the remote smtp configuration, 
but exim4 doesn't seem to have that to begin with.

All of the exim4 configuration files are original, 
update-exim4.cof.conf is set for Internet use.
OK, solved it. When you have eliminated the impossible
I'm using an Alcatel Speedtouch V3.7 ADSL router, which contains a 
caching DNS server. Unfortunately, it only responds to A and ANY 
enquiries.

The Woody installation has a caching server, I didn't think I'd bother 
with the new one as there is one in the router.
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Re: Openoffice Problem ID'd, Not Solved

[Chris Halls]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 11:16 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> In printer settings, paper the field for the paper size is blank

Aaah, that's a known problem, caused by a bug in the native CUPS
backport in 1.1.2.  You have two options to try:

1. Try removing any extra CUPS instances that you have for the printer.
2. See /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz and follow the
instructions to disable the native CUPS support code.

Chris


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Re: Openoffice Problem ID'd, Not Solved

[Brad Sims]

On Friday 26 November 2004 10:16 am, Thomas H. George wrote:
> In printer settings, paper the field for the paper size is blank and the
> duplex setting is .
> 
> For documents created earlier the paper size is US Letter and the duplex
> setting is Simplex.
> 
> Neither File/Printer Settings/Properties nor oppadmin will allow me to
> make entries in the blank paper size field or the duplex field.  The
> pull down menus for these fields contain no other options.

Hrm interesting, I have openoffice.org-1.1.2dfsg1-3 installed here; I opened
a new document and looked at the printer settings and they are ok. 
Just to be sure I saved it and reopened it after closing writer and 
it's still fine.

Maybe it got fixed in the newest release...
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Canon cameras shaft Linux users

[Anthony Campbell]

I have a Canon A40 digital camera. I've mislaid the user;s manual so I
downloaded a PDF version from Canon. This can only be read with Acrobat
6.0, which is not available for Linux. Earlier versions, and also xpdf,
show "COPY" on every page.

Thank you, Canon. I shall _not_ but another Canon camera.
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Re: determining who is a registered user in your system

[Adam Aube]

Antonio Rodriguez wrote:
> Adam Aube wrote
>> Antonio Rodriguez wrote:

>>> Whats the command to determine who is a registered user in your
>>> system, or to gather stats about them, such as registration time, etc?

>> What do you mean by "registered user"?

> Good question, hmm, the ones that you can unregister with deluser?
> Ls-ing /etc/passwd you can see a bunch of entries.

So you mean system users (those with accounts in /etc/passwd) as opposed to
virtual users (users that only exist in some service's user database).

> Some are system users, necessary for the functioning of the default
> minimal system, some are not.

> Would be great having a command that would spit that out:

AFAIK, there is no such command. However, users created by tools such as
adduser start at UID 1000, so anything with a lower UID was either a
default account created at install time or created by a software package,
and should not be touched without good reason.

> Can the root remove h[i,e][m,r]self from the system?

Of course - just remove the entries from /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.
However, I would strongly recommend you NOT do this (unless you want to
cripple your system).

Adam


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Re: Laser Printer

[Merlin, the Mage]

oix,

 I agree with Jeremy and Chris. Samsung is doing it well.

 I have a ML-2151N, and i'm already on my 4th 8000 pages toner (plus the 
initial 4000 pages one). The printer was really a good surprise to me. Mine 
have the extra of PS and Network, and that made it even easier to install, 
since it works as any other generic postscript lp print server, but I tried 
it on the paralel port and it worked very well with the drivers from 
samsung.com.

themage

On Friday 26 November 2004 16:44, Jeremy Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:03:52PM +, Chris Lale wrote:
> > Samsung support Linux better than some. My ML-1450 came with out-of-date
> > drivers on the CD, but I downloaded The latest Linux driver from the
> > website and it installed OK. This was with Woody.
>
> I second the support for Samsung.  I recently bought the ML-1740, and on
> the side of the box it actually states support for Linux.  I saw the
> other day on some site like BestBuy.com or something that it was selling
> for $100 with a $50 mail-in rebate (total cost, $50).  I don't know how
> useful that is to you over in Europe, but dirt cheap.  I'm just about
> out of the first toner cartridge.  They say it's good for 1000 pages.
> It has worked well with CUPS and Samba.  In Sarge, I used the PPD from
> the ML-1710 model.
>
> No complaints here.
>
> Jeremy

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Re: Laser Printer

[Brad Sims]

On Friday 26 November 2004 10:44 am, Jeremy Turner wrote:

> I second the support for Samsung.  I recently bought the ML-1740, and on
> the side of the box it actually states support for Linux.  I saw the
> other day on some site like BestBuy.com or something that it was selling
> for $100 with a $50 mail-in rebate (total cost, $50).  I don't know how 
> useful that is to you over in Europe, but dirt cheap.  I'm just about
> out of the first toner cartridge.  They say it's good for 1000 pages.
> It has worked well with CUPS and Samba.  In Sarge, I used the PPD from
> the ML-1710 model.

I bought a used Laserjet 4+ with 50mb of ram, 10mb Jetdirect and postscript
for around $130USD. It is drag through the mud reliable, supported on
everything (I use the Gimp-Print drivers) and lasts forever...

Check Ebay, they are usually cheap and if you look you can find them with
duplexing (thats my next add-on).
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Script to Set Environment Variable?

[ms419]

How do I write a script to set an environment variable?
I feel like I should know this. I want to set my PATH in pbuilder & the 
author suggested using an "A" hook. However, I can't create a hook - an 
executable - which sets an environment variable.

I tried:
#!/bin/sh
export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH
and just:
export PATH=/usr/lib/ccache:$PATH
but in either case, calling ./A10hook doesn't change my environment 
variable. I hope I'm just missing something foolishly obvious.

Thanks for any help!
Jack
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Re: Switching from X to ttys

[Micha Feigin]

At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:06:29 +0100,
Shan Mignot wrote:
> 
> All right, here is how things behave:
> 
> * as a normal user (shan):
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 2
> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> zsh: exit 1 chvt 2
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 1
> Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
> zsh: exit 1 chvt 2
> 
> * as root things work just fine and from the tty I can change tty using
> Ctrl+Al+Fn

Forgot about that, but yes, it only works as root also for me.

Switching ttys in the console should work with only Alt-Fn, no control.

Look in your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and see if you have a SERVERFLAGS section
with an entry

   Option "DontVTSwitch"  "true"

If you have then remove it, and if you don't try adding

   Option "DontVTSwitch"  "false"

and see if it works (you may need to add the serverflags section for this).


> 
> Here an except from ls in /dev:
> 
> crw---  1 root root 4, 0 2004-10-08 10:49 tty0
> crw---  1 shan tty  4, 1 2004-11-26 16:02 tty1
> crw---  1 root root 4, 2 2004-11-26 16:02 tty2
> crw---  1 root root 4, 3 2004-11-26 11:10 tty3
> crw---  1 root root 4, 4 2004-11-26 11:10 tty4
> crw---  1 root root 4, 5 2004-11-26 11:10 tty5
> crw---  1 root root 4, 6 2004-11-26 11:10 tty6
> crw--w  1 root root 4, 7 2004-11-26 16:02 tty7
> crw--w  1 root root 4, 8 2000-07-05 19:43 tty8
> crw--w  1 root root 4, 9 2000-07-05 19:43 tty9
> 
> Could it be that the permissions are not right ? But then why won't it work
> while shan is the owner of tty1 ?
> 
> I've also taken a look in the XF86Config-4 file and haven't seen anything like
> disabling that behavior. Any idea what it would look like ?
> 
> Any further idea ?
> Thanks a lot for your help.
> 
> Shan
> 
> 
> Selon Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:41 +0100,
> > Shan Mignot wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > For some time now I have not been able to switch to other ttys. Pressing
> > > Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... F6 simply does not result in anything. I've seen somewhere
> > that
> > > it may be related to the console-tools, console-data and console-common
> > packages
> > > but I have no idea how. Looking at my /etc/inittab, I don't see any reason
> > why
> > > switching should not work and beside, if I kill gdm then several ttys 
> > > exist
> > and
> > > I can switch between them as of old.
> > >
> >
> > Try as a start to do "chvt 1" and see if that switches (just to make sure it
> > works).
> >
> > Its also possible to disable that behavier in XF86Config-4, could it be that
> > you
> > disabled it?
> >
> > > Any Idea ?
> > >
> > > Shan
> > >
> > > ---
> > > # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
> > > # $Id: inittab,v 1.8 1998/05/10 10:37:50 miquels Exp $
> > >
> > > # The default runlevel.
> > > id:2:initdefault:
> > >
> > > # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
> > > # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
> > > si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
> > >
> > > # What to do in single-user mode.
> > > ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin
> > >
> > > # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
> > > # of runlevel.
> > > #
> > > # Runlevel 0 is halt.
> > > # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
> > > # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
> > > # Runlevel 6 is reboot.
> > >
> > > l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
> > > l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1
> > > l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
> > > l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3
> > > l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4
> > > l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5
> > > l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6
> > > # Normally not reached, but fallthrough in case of emergency.
> > > z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin
> > >
> > > # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
> > > #ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
> > >
> > > # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
> > > kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this
> > work."
> > >
> > > # What to do when the power fails/returns.
> > > pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start
> > > pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now
> > > po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail stop
> > >
> > > # /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels.
> > > #
> > > # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
> > > # characters of the device (after "tty").
> > > #
> > > # Format:
> > > #  :::
> > > 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
> > > 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
> > > 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
> > > 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
> > > 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
> > > 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
> > >
> > > # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
> > > #
> > > #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
> > > #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100
> > >
> > > # Example how to put a getty on a modem line.
> > > #
> > > #T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3
> > >
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Re: login script & xterm

[ms419]

On Nov 17, 2004, at 5:10 AM, Andrea Vettorello wrote:
On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 23:12:46 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Where should I put commands to be executed when I login, & when I open
an xterm, but not when a shell is run on other occasions?
I want some commands executed when I login, but not when a shell is
otherwise run, so I put them in my ~/.login, vs. my ~/.bashrc.
Unfortunately, they aren't executed when I open an xterm.
I hoped there might be a ~/.xtermrc I could put them in, but I haven't
found mention of an xterm initialization script anywhere in the
documentation.
Also, I thought I could configure xterm to start as if with the -ls
flag. Anyway, there's probably a reason it doesn't, like a login shell
might break some application using xterm?
Where should I put them?
Well, ".bash_profile" is executed for login shells and ".bashrc" is
executed for non-login shells.
If you want to set some environment variables or execute some commands
only when xterm are launched, you can add a condition in your
".bashrc", something like:
case $TERM in
xterm*)
echo "This is an XTerm"
;;
*)
echo "This isn't an XTerm"
;;
esac
Hope this helps.
That's awesome! Thanks! These lines work great, in .bash_profile for 
login shells & .bashrc for xterms:

if [ -n "$PS1" ]; then
if [ -z "$STY" ]; then
# An interactive shell without screen.
exec screen -xRR
else
# An interactive shell within screen.
alias grep="grep --color"
alias ls="ls --color"
fi
fi
Thanks again!
Jack
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Re: Laser Printer

[Jeremy Turner]

On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 09:03:52PM +, Chris Lale wrote:
> Samsung support Linux better than some. My ML-1450 came with out-of-date
> drivers on the CD, but I downloaded The latest Linux driver from the
> website and it installed OK. This was with Woody.

I second the support for Samsung.  I recently bought the ML-1740, and on
the side of the box it actually states support for Linux.  I saw the
other day on some site like BestBuy.com or something that it was selling
for $100 with a $50 mail-in rebate (total cost, $50).  I don't know how 
useful that is to you over in Europe, but dirt cheap.  I'm just about
out of the first toner cartridge.  They say it's good for 1000 pages.
It has worked well with CUPS and Samba.  In Sarge, I used the PPD from
the ML-1710 model.

No complaints here.

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Re: Problem of compiling kernel

[Lian Liming]

Perhaps you need to compile an initrd and you forgot to give the
--initrd
option to make-kpkg...
 

This is something confusing me so long. Is it neccessary to make the 
initrd file?
I just remember that i have read quite a lot articles about compiling 
kernel on Linux, a lot of them do not tell that you must make the initrd 
file.
I don't check the "RAM disk support" when "make meuconfig". Then should 
i really need to add the step of  making initrd file?

Any suggestions are appreciated!
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Re: Openoffice Problem ID'd, Not Solved

[Thomas H. George]

On Wed, Nov 24, 2004 at 02:03:09PM -0500, Thomas H. George wrote:
> The latest testing dist-upgrade of openoffice.org (1.1.2) will not print 
> newly created documents.  Documents created before the dist-upgrade 
> continue to print with no problems.
> 
> Tom George
> 
In printer settings, paper the field for the paper size is blank and the
duplex setting is .

For documents created earlier the paper size is US Letter and the duplex
setting is Simplex.

Neither File/Printer Settings/Properties nor oppadmin will allow me to
make entries in the blank paper size field or the duplex field.  The
pull down menus for these fields contain no other options.

Tom George
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Re: xserver cpu load on 2.6 kernels

[Ron Johnson]

On Fri, 2004-11-26 at 17:48 +0200, Alexei Chetroi wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  I'm running Debian testing on Acer travelmate 354 laptop. When running
> on 2.4 kernels, cpu load is about 0% when windowmaker is loaded and
> idle. But, when running kernel 2.6.9, wmcube and wmtop shows me, that
> xfree86 eats about 23% of cpu when idle, and about 40-60% when moving
> mouse pointer. What is wrong?
> 
>   Xserver is started with niceness 0, when starting it with niceness -10
> exhibits exactly the same behavior. Is this real cpu load xserver
> exposes on cpu which kernel 2.6 shows me and 2.4 not?
> 
>   Thanks in advance!
> 
> PS: it is pentium III 733mHz, trident cyberblade video chip.

Are you using the fb, and maybe don't have something important
compiled into the 2.6.9 kernel?

What XFree video driver are you using?

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Re: network & laptop

[Michael Marsh]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 16:20:41 +0100, Alberto Bert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm running Debian testing on a laptop, and I'm always moving with my
> computer in different laboratories, with different networks.
> 
> In order to manage the net configuration I'm now using quickswitch,
> which is not bad, but it's not a Debian package :-(
> 
> Is there a way to have the same functionality by using a package?
> It would be nice to be able to choose the netwokr configuration
> (avalilable printers, programs to run, etc.) at boot time, also.

% apt-cache show laptop-net

This has worked well for me.  My laptop is usually docked (I retired
my desktop), and when I un-dock it the network shuts down
automatically.  Re-connect ethernet and it comes back up.

You also might want to subscribe to the debian-laptop list if you
haven't already.

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Re: Apache2 'SSLEngine on' not working in testing

[Victor Ng]

Did either of you guys manage to get this working in Debian testing?
I'm running Apache2 2.0.52-3 and I there's definitely no SSL going on  
on port 443 - I can do a  plain http://myhost:443/ and load the page  
without any problem.

My error log shows the following:
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [info] Connection to child 4 established  
(server www.gapadventures.com:443, client 127.0.0.1)
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [info] Seeding PRNG with 136 bytes of entropy
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [debug]  
/build/buildd/apache2-2.0.52/build-tree/apache2/modules/ssl/ 
ssl_engine_kernel.c(1771): OpenSSL: Handshake: start
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [debug]  
/build/buildd/apache2-2.0.52/build-tree/apache2/modules/ssl/ 
ssl_engine_kernel.c(1779): OpenSSL: Loop: before/accept initialization
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [debug]  
/build/buildd/apache2-2.0.52/build-tree/apache2/modules/ssl/ 
ssl_engine_io.c(1517): OpenSSL: I/O error, 11 bytes expected to read on  
BIO#82e50e8 [mem: 82ea770]
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [debug]  
/build/buildd/apache2-2.0.52/build-tree/apache2/modules/ssl/ 
ssl_engine_kernel.c(1808): OpenSSL: Exit: error in SSLv2/v3 read client  
hello A
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [info] (70014)End of file found: SSL  
handshake interrupted by system [Hint: Stop button pressed in  
browser?!]
[Fri Nov 26 10:09:24 2004] [info] Connection to child 4 closed with  
abortive shutdown(server www.gapadventures.com:443, client 127.0.0.1)

I suppose if I can't get it working - I can just fall back to Apache  
1.3.

vic
Hi Jake,
I am having the same problem. After an upgrade to Apache2 2.0.51-2  
(testing) my ssl site also does not work. I haven't gone so far as to  
purge and reinstall the packages yet. Using netstat -l does not show  
anything listening on my port 443. There doesn't seem to be anything  
in my apache logs that would indicate either that the ssl version of  
the server has started or not started except for the lack of hostname  
warning.

-Rob

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Re: maxtor harddrive firewire usb

[Christophe Broult]

Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Thu, 25 Nov 2004 22:45:03 -0500) 
writes:

> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 15:09:20 -0500, Christophe Broult <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (Thu, 25 Nov 2004 13:39:37 -0500) 
>> writes:
>> > I am sorry I dont have an answer for your question. I have a maxtor
>> > 200 GB usb drive. The drive stops working if I try to copy large files
>> > (say 150 mb) in linux partition. It works fine if I copy just small
>> > files. I cant even mount other partitions of the usb drive when this
>> > happens. The only option is to reboot the computer.
>> 
>> I had similar problems until I switched to using Firewire and the drive had
>> been working well until last Saturday. Though from time to time I could see
>> some problems while reading some of the files...
>
> How did you do that? Do I need any special capability
> (hardware/software)? The hard drive I was talking about comes with a
> usb connector attached to it. How can I connect it to the firewire
> port? Do I need to buy some hardware (like usb to firewire connector)?
> I have a firewire port but never used it though.

The Maxtor 5000XT has a USB and a Firewire port. Initially it was
easier for me to get the USB connection to work but after some reading
getting the Firewire version to work was fairly simple too with the
ohci1394 and sbp2 modules. If your drive does not have a Firewire
port I do not think I can help you.

Christophe

>
> I tried googling around but could not find the answer.
>
> thanks
> raju
>
>
>
> -- 
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Re: Switching from X to ttys

[Shan Mignot]

All right, here is how things behave:

* as a normal user (shan):
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 2
Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
zsh: exit 1 chvt 2

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev > chvt 1
Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
zsh: exit 1 chvt 2

* as root things work just fine and from the tty I can change tty using
Ctrl+Al+Fn

Here an except from ls in /dev:

crw---  1 root root 4, 0 2004-10-08 10:49 tty0
crw---  1 shan tty  4, 1 2004-11-26 16:02 tty1
crw---  1 root root 4, 2 2004-11-26 16:02 tty2
crw---  1 root root 4, 3 2004-11-26 11:10 tty3
crw---  1 root root 4, 4 2004-11-26 11:10 tty4
crw---  1 root root 4, 5 2004-11-26 11:10 tty5
crw---  1 root root 4, 6 2004-11-26 11:10 tty6
crw--w  1 root root 4, 7 2004-11-26 16:02 tty7
crw--w  1 root root 4, 8 2000-07-05 19:43 tty8
crw--w  1 root root 4, 9 2000-07-05 19:43 tty9

Could it be that the permissions are not right ? But then why won't it work
while shan is the owner of tty1 ?

I've also taken a look in the XF86Config-4 file and haven't seen anything like
disabling that behavior. Any idea what it would look like ?

Any further idea ?
Thanks a lot for your help.

Shan


Selon Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:41 +0100,
> Shan Mignot wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > For some time now I have not been able to switch to other ttys. Pressing
> > Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... F6 simply does not result in anything. I've seen somewhere
> that
> > it may be related to the console-tools, console-data and console-common
> packages
> > but I have no idea how. Looking at my /etc/inittab, I don't see any reason
> why
> > switching should not work and beside, if I kill gdm then several ttys exist
> and
> > I can switch between them as of old.
> >
>
> Try as a start to do "chvt 1" and see if that switches (just to make sure it
> works).
>
> Its also possible to disable that behavier in XF86Config-4, could it be that
> you
> disabled it?
>
> > Any Idea ?
> >
> > Shan
> >
> > ---
> > # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
> > # $Id: inittab,v 1.8 1998/05/10 10:37:50 miquels Exp $
> >
> > # The default runlevel.
> > id:2:initdefault:
> >
> > # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
> > # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
> > si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
> >
> > # What to do in single-user mode.
> > ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin
> >
> > # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
> > # of runlevel.
> > #
> > # Runlevel 0 is halt.
> > # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
> > # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
> > # Runlevel 6 is reboot.
> >
> > l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
> > l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1
> > l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
> > l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3
> > l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4
> > l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5
> > l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6
> > # Normally not reached, but fallthrough in case of emergency.
> > z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin
> >
> > # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
> > #ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
> >
> > # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
> > kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this
> work."
> >
> > # What to do when the power fails/returns.
> > pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start
> > pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now
> > po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail stop
> >
> > # /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels.
> > #
> > # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
> > # characters of the device (after "tty").
> > #
> > # Format:
> > #  :::
> > 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
> > 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
> > 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
> > 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
> > 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
> > 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
> >
> > # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
> > #
> > #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
> > #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100
> >
> > # Example how to put a getty on a modem line.
> > #
> > #T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3
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network & laptop

[Alberto Bert]

Hi all

I'm running Debian testing on a laptop, and I'm always moving with my
computer in different laboratories, with different networks.

In order to manage the net configuration I'm now using quickswitch,
which is not bad, but it's not a Debian package :-(

Is there a way to have the same functionality by using a package?
It would be nice to be able to choose the netwokr configuration 
(avalilable printers, programs to run, etc.) at boot time, also.


Thanks,
cheers,
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Re: how does mutt send?

[Stephen Patterson]

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 20:50:10 +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
> This may be wrong, but it seems to work.  If I add INBOX to folder, then
> when I try to navigate back to the inbox from elsewhere, and [tab] on
> the IMAP item in the list it offers me imap:.place.net/INBOX/INBOX
> which is to say it appends {'/' . $mailboxes} to $folder.  That means that
> even if I make $mailboxes null, I still get the extra '/' and cannot
> open the inbox.  The way I did it, I can both navigate back to INBOX and
> save copies of sent mail to Sent.  It is not congruent with any
> instructions I have seen anywhere else, but it works for me.

I find that mutt works better with imap if INBOX doesn't contain
messages, but is instead a folder containing only message
folders. This way I can use the C key to browse the full folder
structure (not just the ones named by the 'mailboxes' option).

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Re: mutt pop configuration

[Stephen Patterson]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:00:23 +0100, George Iordanou wrote:
>> It will ask for your password. I do not know whether the outgoing mail
>> server can be configured via mutt. 
> As i've seen i have to configure smtp through sendmail. Unfortunately
> mutt does not support smtp.

mutt needs a configured local mailserver (exim, postfix or the like)
though I've recently found smtppush to be very useful for sending
email directly via my ISP's mail server (yes, I've got a dynamic IP
and there are just too many places blackholing dynamic IPS these days *grrr*).

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Re: runlevel 2 vs 3 vs 5 deprecated in sarge?

[Micha Feigin]

At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:55:15 +,
Joao Clemente wrote:
> 
> I was testing some stuff that needed rebooting my sarge installation an 
> I tought to myself that it was a waste of time to startup X at every 
> boot
> So I headed to /etc/inittab to change it to runlevel 3... but I was 
> amazed to see that the value there was 2 
> 
> So, do those standarts of 5 = multiuser + X, 3 = multiuser - X, ... 
> stoped being used in sarge? Why?
> 

It never stopped being used. Debian used runlevel 2 as the standard runlevel
forever AFAIK.

The 3 vs. 5 runlevel is a Red-Hat standard, not a linux standard. Debian uses 2
as regular and 1 IIRC as single user.

The others are there if you wan't to create custom ones.

You can just remove/disable the display manager (kdm/wdm/xdm/gdm) if you don't
want X to startup automatically.

> I'm using sarge intalled with rc2 business-card installer
> Joao Clemente
> 
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Re: Switching from X to ttys

[Micha Feigin]

At Fri, 26 Nov 2004 14:35:41 +0100,
Shan Mignot wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> For some time now I have not been able to switch to other ttys. Pressing
> Ctrl-Alt-F1 ... F6 simply does not result in anything. I've seen somewhere 
> that
> it may be related to the console-tools, console-data and console-common 
> packages
> but I have no idea how. Looking at my /etc/inittab, I don't see any reason why
> switching should not work and beside, if I kill gdm then several ttys exist 
> and
> I can switch between them as of old.
> 

Try as a start to do "chvt 1" and see if that switches (just to make sure it
works).

Its also possible to disable that behavier in XF86Config-4, could it be that you
disabled it?

> Any Idea ?
> 
> Shan
> 
> ---
> # /etc/inittab: init(8) configuration.
> # $Id: inittab,v 1.8 1998/05/10 10:37:50 miquels Exp $
> 
> # The default runlevel.
> id:2:initdefault:
> 
> # Boot-time system configuration/initialization script.
> # This is run first except when booting in emergency (-b) mode.
> si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
> 
> # What to do in single-user mode.
> ~~:S:wait:/sbin/sulogin
> 
> # /etc/init.d executes the S and K scripts upon change
> # of runlevel.
> #
> # Runlevel 0 is halt.
> # Runlevel 1 is single-user.
> # Runlevels 2-5 are multi-user.
> # Runlevel 6 is reboot.
> 
> l0:0:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 0
> l1:1:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 1
> l2:2:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 2
> l3:3:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 3
> l4:4:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 4
> l5:5:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 5
> l6:6:wait:/etc/init.d/rc 6
> # Normally not reached, but fallthrough in case of emergency.
> z6:6:respawn:/sbin/sulogin
> 
> # What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
> #ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -r now
> 
> # Action on special keypress (ALT-UpArrow).
> kb::kbrequest:/bin/echo "Keyboard Request--edit /etc/inittab to let this 
> work."
> 
> # What to do when the power fails/returns.
> pf::powerwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail start
> pn::powerfailnow:/etc/init.d/powerfail now
> po::powerokwait:/etc/init.d/powerfail stop
> 
> # /sbin/getty invocations for the runlevels.
> #
> # The "id" field MUST be the same as the last
> # characters of the device (after "tty").
> #
> # Format:
> #  :::
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1
> 2:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2
> 3:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3
> 4:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4
> 5:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5
> 6:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
> 
> # Example how to put a getty on a serial line (for a terminal)
> #
> #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100
> #T1:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS1 9600 vt100
> 
> # Example how to put a getty on a modem line.
> #
> #T3:23:respawn:/sbin/mgetty -x0 -s 57600 ttyS3
> 
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Re: runlevel 2 vs 3 vs 5 deprecated in sarge?

[Joao Clemente]

Martin Fluch wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, newbin shang wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:55:15 +, Joao Clemente 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I was testing some stuff that needed rebooting my sarge installation an
I tought to myself that it was a waste of time to startup X at every
boot
So I headed to /etc/inittab to change it to runlevel 3... but I was
amazed to see that the value there was 2 
So, do those standarts of 5 = multiuser + X, 3 = multiuser - X, ...
stoped being used in sarge? Why?
[snip]
At least as long as I have used debian (more than five years) my 
computer and all instalations I have made booted by default to runlevel 
2...

- Martin
OOppps sorry for the dumb question then... I guess I installed two 
many woody's servers and too few desktops... I must admit I used a 
couple of other distros as desktops, and I always tought of runlevel5 vs 
runlevel3 difference as standart... Sorry about that.

I'm enlightened now!
Thanks for the fast reply
Joao Clemente
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Re: runlevel 2 vs 3 vs 5 deprecated in sarge?

[Marc Wilson]

On Fri, Nov 26, 2004 at 12:55:15PM +, Joao Clemente wrote:
> So, do those standarts of 5 = multiuser + X, 3 = multiuser - X, ... 
> stoped being used in sarge? Why?

They couldn't have stopped, because they had never started.  The default
run-level for Debian is two, and has been so since pre-Potato.

What YOU are referring to is a RedHat-ism.  Debian, on the other hand, sets
run-levels two through five to be identical, and leaves it up to the admin
how he wants to set them up.

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Boot problem: Hang up on synchronising system clock to hardware clock

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On a machine we recently installed (testing) we have this problem at boot

Hang up on synchronising system clock to hardware clock

Then if you Ctrl + C the boot procedure goes ahead. It stops again with the 
same message. If you Ctrl + C again, the boot procedure goes ahead 
successfully and completes.

Any solution?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: runlevel 2 vs 3 vs 5 deprecated in sarge?

[Martin Fluch]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004, newbin shang wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 12:55:15 +, Joao Clemente <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I was testing some stuff that needed rebooting my sarge installation an
I tought to myself that it was a waste of time to startup X at every
boot
So I headed to /etc/inittab to change it to runlevel 3... but I was
amazed to see that the value there was 2 
So, do those standarts of 5 = multiuser + X, 3 = multiuser - X, ...
stoped being used in sarge? Why?
I'm using sarge intalled with rc2 business-card installer
Joao Clemente
You can have a look at /etc/rcN.d/ (N is the runlevel) and remove the
linkage which will start X when bootup
I think the runlevel standards in debian are't exactly as you wrote
before, it only depends on the linkages in the directory /etc/rcN.d/ ,
and you can modify it as needed.
At least as long as I have used debian (more than five years) my computer 
and all instalations I have made booted by default to runlevel 2...

- Martin
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Re: [OT] local-only webserver for web app. thttpd or ??

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:06:46 -0800, Kenward Vaughan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am trying to set up a series of apps to run together for
> computational chemistry work at home.  A Java-based front-end app I
> want to try is called WebMO, which uses a web interface requiring CGI.
> I have no server for doing this, so am looking for candidates.  Thttpd
> seems to be a possibility.  Apache strikes me as too big a package for
> what's needed.
> 
> It would reside entirely on this one box on my internal LAN.
> 
> I'm completely clueless as well about setting this up as well, so a
> simpler, kinder system would be of great help.  I have no trouble
> beating my head against installation manuals, etc., but wanted to get a
> feeling for what others thought would be good to start with... ???

For localhost as well as internal LAN usage with not much
sophisticated configs, I find boa to be sufficient - it's lightweight,
and the packaged boa just works out of the box.


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Re: debian architectures

[Paolo Alexis Falcone]

On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 10:41:42 +0100, Mauro Darida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 at 09:27:55 +, Kevin B. McCarty wrote:
> >
> > * ia64 - Intel's 64-bit Itanium series of workstations.  Not doing too
> > well in the marketplace.
> >
> Do you mean we will have a debian sarge for Itanium processors ?!

Looks like it. As long as there would be users for that architecture
who'd be willing to maintain then it'll live even through EOLs (like
the Alpha EV chips)

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