Re: How to download/install a harddrive file

[L.V.Gandhi]

On 8/5/05, kamaraju kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> pinecone wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2005-03-08 at 11:39 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Hi pinecone
> >>   Could you explain what a "harddrive file" is? There are various ways
> >>to get a file from other computers (connected through lan or internet).
> >>The choices that come to mind are http, ssh, scp, sftp etc.,
> >>
> >>raju
> >>
> >>
> >I mean a file sitting on my linux box hard drive, usually in a download
> >subdirectory of my home directory.
> >
> >I download interesting packages like freemind from sourceforge.  I then
> >have a devil of a time trying to get Synaptic to locate it and proceed
> >with an install - it wants to find a repository on the internet.  The
> >sources.list has an entry for a local file which starts like this
> >file:///somename sarge main
> >
> >So I try to replicate this.  The error repeatedly looks for extra
> >subdirectories on the way to the package. It seems to be following a
> >script. Very frustrating. So I now want to do it from the terminal in
> >hopes of avoiding this apparent limitation with the gui. I'd like to end
> >up with a listing in the applications menu of the gnome desktop or an
> >icon on the desktop.
> >
> >
> I am forwarding it to the list as others might be able to help you on
> this issue.
See apt howto. It explains clearly the procedure.

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Re: gnulib ?

[Jules Dubois]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 20:19, Lance Hoffmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> I am trying to compile PSPP from CVS and it says something
> 
> If you checked Gnulib out in a directory named `gnulib' at the same
> level as PSPP, then this is sufficient.  Otherwise, provide the
> location of GNULIB on the `make' command line:
> make -f Smake GNULIB=/gnulib/base/directory/name
> 
> Where od I find this library?

On Debian Sid,

  aptitude install gnulib

will get you gnulib v0.0.20050203-1.  I don't know about original source,
Debian source, or Sarge or Etch.


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Re: udev - easy setup ?

[Jules Dubois]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 20:37, Nate Bargmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> * Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Aug 03 20:04 -0500]:
>> On Wednesday 03 August 2005 14:24, Jules Dubois
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
>> 
>> > I've skimmed some official documents and some Apple developer
>> > documents,
>> > [snip]
>> 
>> Sorry to follow-up to my own message, but ignore the original please.
> 
> What do we ignore?

The message I half-finished writing and accidentally sent, the one that
mentions "Apple developer documents".  I discovered that the only
interesting parts of Apple's stuff is extracted from the official USB docs. 
I sent another message like it but with real information.

> I've been watching this thread with interest.  So 
> far I've not tried udev and I'm wondering if it's worth it.

I think it's worth it, but I use only a small fraction of its capabilities. 
When I first installed it, I didn't do any sort of configuration.  I didn't
see any difference in how my system worked, until I looked in /dev where
the dozens (hundreds?) of device nodes I don't use were gone.

I've since created a few rules which while handy and pretty are nothing to
get excited about.  The OP wants to do the kind of thing for which udev is
designed.  I use keys like SYSFS{vendor} and these don't meet Uwe's
requirements.  However, I don't understand enough about USB or kernel
internals to do more than take an insufficiently educated guess about how
to proceed.


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[corass]

my email had been removed from debian-user mailing list but i can recived mail 
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Missing Open Office Impress templates

[Mr Mike]

Is there some reason Impress does not have any templates?
There are a couple *.sti files in these directories..

  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/english/layout/
  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/english/presnt/

but they don't show up anywhere in oo..

I created a directory 

  /usr/lib/openoffice/share/template/english/impress/

and copied several impress templates I got from oo.org into it but that
didn't work either...

Any ideas???





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Re: OpenOffice and Scientific Notations

[Peter Kupfer OOo]

Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Thanks for the prompt reply.

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 10:23:42PM +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Hello List,

my boss sent me a PPT file:
I can read with openoffice.org, but unfortunately
some scientic symbols are replace by retangles:
how can we fix it ?




This is a font problem.  You need to have all the same fonts (or
suitable substitutes) or the characters will get mangled like you are
seeing. 



How can we have the necessary font on a Debian (Etch) box ?



What Font was the file written in?

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Re: 855resolution help

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 17:37, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote:

[snip non-error messages]

>Does this mean that my LCD won't support anything beyond 1024x768 or
> can I make it work ?

Generally speaking, unless your lcd monitor is an aftermarket, big one 
that costs a couple of little red wagonloads of cash, 1024x768 is the 
limit.

This is because thats all the actual pixels there are on the screen 
itself.  lcd's are not linear at any resolution like high vacuum 
swept electron beam crts are.  Each pixel has a fixed location on the 
screens real estate.

[more snippage as its not revelant when the subject is a portables lcd 
screen]

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Re: Changing to British (or Canadian) English (SOLVED)

[David R. Litwin]

A Brief Summary for the Archives:

I wished to change the Language of both Debian and KDE to British or
Canadian English. I ended up doing both: Debian in to Canadian English
and KDE in to British English. This is how:

For Debian:
(as root)
dpkg-reconfigure locales
# enable the en_GB options

For KDE:

apt-get install kde-i18n-engb

Much Appreciated to those who Assisted.

Re: Debian CD Reseller

[Robert Wolfe, MCP]

"The easiest way, however, is to distribute both binary and source CDs
at the same time and at the same price. Since CDs are quite cheap
these days, this will only slightly increase the price. "  This would
be the way I want to go.  If I do get some Netinst purchased I want to
include the source packages along with the netinst CD.

I also verify the checksums even after I download and before I burn
the images for my own use just to be safe.

On 8/4/05, Joe Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi all.  I was wondering what I would need to be an OFFICIAL seller of
> >Debian CDROMs.  I currently have 12 available (either in sets or
> >netinst CDs) in my eBay store and was wondering what I would need to
> >do to get myself on the OFFICIAL CD (re)seller listing?
> 
> First read this: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info
> Then read this: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/legal (if you do not comply
> with this (sell source cds with your others, or provide the written offer),
> you could be sued)
> 
> Then PLEASE verify your iso files with the md5sums found at
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/
> (Replace the i386 with the architecure(s) you sell discs for).
> 
> If your iso files are correct then this is the page for you:
> http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding
> For type of cd you are: "Official; Netinst"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: udev - easy setup ?

[Nate Bargmann]

* Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005 Aug 03 20:04 -0500]:
> On Wednesday 03 August 2005 14:24, Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> (<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> > I've skimmed some official documents and some Apple developer documents,
> > [snip]
> 
> Sorry to follow-up to my own message, but ignore the original please.

What do we ignore?  I've been watching this thread with interest.  So
far I've not tried udev and I'm wondering if it's worth it.

- Nate >>

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gnulib ?

[Lance Hoffmeyer]

Hey,

I am trying to compile PSPP from CVS and it says something

If you checked Gnulib out in a directory named `gnulib' at the same
level as PSPP, then this is sufficient.  Otherwise, provide the
location of GNULIB on the `make' command line:
make -f Smake GNULIB=/gnulib/base/directory/name

Where od I find this library?

Lance


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Re: Debian CD Reseller

[Joe Smith]

Hi all.  I was wondering what I would need to be an OFFICIAL seller of
Debian CDROMs.  I currently have 12 available (either in sets or
netinst CDs) in my eBay store and was wondering what I would need to
do to get myself on the OFFICIAL CD (re)seller listing?


First read this: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/info
Then read this: http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/legal (if you do not comply 
with this (sell source cds with your others, or provide the written offer), 
you could be sued)


Then PLEASE verify your iso files with the md5sums found at 
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-cd/

(Replace the i386 with the architecure(s) you sell discs for).

If your iso files are correct then this is the page for you:
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/adding
For type of cd you are: "Official; Netinst"






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Debian CD Reseller

[Robert Wolfe, MCP]

Hi all.  I was wondering what I would need to be an OFFICIAL seller of
Debian CDROMs.  I currently have 12 available (either in sets or
netinst CDs) in my eBay store and was wondering what I would need to
do to get myself on the OFFICIAL CD (re)seller listing?

Thanks!

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Re: Installing a new kernel on Debian.

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

Carl Fink wrote:


On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 04:35:51PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:

 


Is there a place I can download the debs for a 2.6 kernel on the i386
architecture? What files do I need?
   



Packages.debian.org, search for "kernel-image", pick one, read the
dependencies on that page.
 

And if the OP wants >= 2.6.12 kernels, then he should look under 
linux-image instead of kernel-image as there are hurd and BSD kernels 
available beside the linux kernel.


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Re: Changing to British (or Canadian) English

[David P James]

On Mon 1 August 2005 23:23, David R. Litwin wrote:
> I've looked all over the place: KDE, I've googled it, the help files
> in KDE. Nothing seems to tell me how I can change my language in KDE
> to British (since they don't seem to have Canadian, not there there
> really is a difference).

For KDE:

apt-get install kde-i18n-engb

Then it should be available to you in KDE's Control Centre.

HTH,
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Re: Debian Sarge - kernel 2.6 problem

[Grant Thomas]

I believe after you modprobe, to switch back to the installer try (Alt-F1).
This should switch you back to the original console.

Hope this helps.

On 8/4/05, John Willby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> >
> > 1. boot the sarge CD and type "linux26" at the prompt
> > 2. switch to second virtual console (Alt-F2) as soon as the language
> > selection screen appears 3. manually load ide CD drivers by typing:
> >   # modprobe piix ide-generic ide-cd
> 
> No problem
> 
> > 4. Return to first console and continue setup
> 
> [warning noob question coming!]
> 
> err if I type debian-installer it really screws up my graphics output
> and I can't see ought. i have an Nvidia TNT card. Do I need to do
> something else to sort this out?
> 
> > 5. Setup the debian system and install newer 2.6 kernel:
> >   # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12
> >
> 
> Can't see to get this far
> 
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Re: Installing a new kernel on Debian.

[Carl Fink]

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 04:35:51PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:

> Is there a place I can download the debs for a 2.6 kernel on the i386
> architecture? What files do I need?

Packages.debian.org, search for "kernel-image", pick one, read the
dependencies on that page.
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Re: Can't get more than 1024x768 even with the on-board card properly detected (XFree86+KDE 3.3)

[Grant Thomas]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, please.

1). I believe if you re-run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, there should
be a section where it asks you which modes your monitor can display,
if you choose either medium or advanced.
2.) Another method is to copy your XF86Config-4 file to
XF86Config-4.old or similar, and manually edit it. I say copy it
first, because if you make a change to it and then try to run
dpkg-reconfigure, it will leave that file just as it it. Only try this
if 1 does not fix the problem.

Open the file in your favorite text editor, and look in the screen
section, and you should see a portion that looks similar to:...

SubSection "Display"
  Depth   16
  Modes  "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection


Add your desired resolution in front of each "1024x768" entry, making
sure to include a space between quotes for consistency's sake.
You only NEED to edit the line of your default bit-depth (which you
can change in that file as well), but if for some reason you ever need
to change your depth, this will take care of having to re-edit your
file.

Your modes lines should look something like this:

  Modes  "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"

Restart X.

This should now get you loaded in your higher resolution.
The fact that your resize app only shows 1024 probably means that you
only have the "1024x768" settings and not smaller ones.

Hopefully this will get you back on your feet.


On 8/4/05, Fernando Cacciola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I finally installed Sarge (dual boot with WinXP) on a P4 with an D865GBF
> Intel Motherboard using packages downloaded from a previous installation on
> another older PC (via jigdo, which worked fine)
> 
> I have a few pending details to adjust, but one of them I eluding me...
> 
> Post install and with KDE 3.3 up and running fine, I run dpkg-reconfigure
> xserver-xfree86
> 
> to adjust some X settings.
> 
> The script made a wonderful job at detecting my video and monitor hardware
> (an On-board AGP with 64Mb and a 15" Phillips) so it proposed itself the
> right configuration (as I could see becasue the actual names were shown to
> me); thus, I choosen resolutions higher than 1024x768, which I know the card
> and monitor handles nicely becasue I use  in WinXP and it does work
> up to 1280x1024 -except that *I* can't read anything there-.
> 
> I only get at most 1024x768 in KDE 3.3 (and I think in gdm too) (in fact,
> the pulldown menu shows just up to this resolution)
> 
> How can I fix this?
> 
> Related note: I see I have both XF86Config and XF86Config-4.. which one is
> my system using? How can I tell? Why are there both?
> 
> TIA
> 
> Fernando Cacciola
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Installing a new kernel on Debian.

[Bryan Donlan]

On 8/4/05, Redefined Horizons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm currently running Debian Sarge with the 2.4.27 kernel. I would
> like to update to a 2.6 kernel. I don't have an internet connection to
> my Debian box yet, so I can't use apt-get.
> 
> Is there a place I can download the debs for a 2.6 kernel on the i386
> architecture? What files do I need?
> 
> I appreciate any assistance, as I'm new to Linux and this will be my
> first time performing a kernel upgrade.

The latest 2.6 kernel in stable can be found here:
http://packages.debian.org/stable/base/kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386

This version works for all x86 platforms - depending on your CPU,
there may be a faster version available.

Do make sure you have all the dependencies listed there, if you're not
using apt-get. You can check with dpkg:
$ dpkg -l coreutils initrd-tools module-init-tools
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  coreutils  5.2.1-2The GNU core utilities
ii  initrd-tools   0.1.81.1   tools to create initrd image for prepackaged
ii  module-init-to 3.2-pre8-1 tools for managing Linux kernel modules

Also indirect dependencies (I've listed only the ones you might not
already have here):
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  cpio   2.5-1.2GNU cpio -- a program to manage archives of 
ii  cramfsprogs1.1-6  Tools for CramFs (Compressed ROM File System
ii  dash   0.5.2-6The Debian Almquist Shell


The version numbers might not be exactly the same as mine; I'm on
unstable. If one of these packages is missing, be sure to download it
as well, following the links from the kernel package page. You might
also want to install udev, but this is optional.

When you have all the packages, to install them manually, do:
dpkg -i /path/to/packages/*.deb

If dpkg reports a dependency error, you probably missed one of the
needed packages.

If you installed off a cdrom set, some or all of these packages might
be on them - try using apt-cdrom and apt-get to install them.

Re: Debian Sarge - kernel 2.6 problem

[John Willby]

Hi

> 
> 1. boot the sarge CD and type "linux26" at the prompt
> 2. switch to second virtual console (Alt-F2) as soon as the language
> selection screen appears 3. manually load ide CD drivers by typing:
>   # modprobe piix ide-generic ide-cd

No problem

> 4. Return to first console and continue setup

[warning noob question coming!]

err if I type debian-installer it really screws up my graphics output
and I can't see ought. i have an Nvidia TNT card. Do I need to do
something else to sort this out?

> 5. Setup the debian system and install newer 2.6 kernel:
>   # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12
> 

Can't see to get this far

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pppd and no more V92

[Nobrin ;-\\]

A few hours ago, kppp connected with my US Robotics 56K External
Faxmodem using V92/LAPM/V42BIS.

After playing around with minicom, it connects only with V90. And this
is not what I want.

I tried to send an AT&F1 to reset the modem, but got no result (ie
just V90 works).

Is it possible? I searched for a "enable V92" command in the manual,
but there isn't.

Please help...

Installing a new kernel on Debian.

[Redefined Horizons]

I'm currently running Debian Sarge with the 2.4.27 kernel. I would
like to update to a 2.6 kernel. I don't have an internet connection to
my Debian box yet, so I can't use apt-get.

Is there a place I can download the debs for a 2.6 kernel on the i386
architecture? What files do I need?

I appreciate any assistance, as I'm new to Linux and this will be my
first time performing a kernel upgrade.

Scott Huey

postfix

[gothic doom]

Hi there.

I'm trying to make a rule that will analize 'mail from' *only* if the
message comes from a certain IP address.

Sorry about this lamme question, but couldn't find out reading
http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html.

Thanx

Dell 1850/Sarge

[John Fleming]

I've done some googling in this area, but would like to ask here.  Has 
anyone had experience installing Sarge on a Dell 1850 with SCSI drives? (No 
RAID)  Anyone care to predict what might happen trying to do a mondorestore 
(nuke) on an 1850 using a DVD made on a 600SC?


I have a nicely-configured Dell 600SC that I would like to clone to a 1-U 
1850.


Thanks any {nice} comments!  - John


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Re: Mod perl backport for Sarge.

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 07:11:59PM +0100, Andy Davidson wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently asked this on debian-perl, but the list seems to be much quieter 
> than this one; hoping someone on here might have an answer.
> 
> Is anyone maintaining a, or planning to maintain a backport of the released, 
> stable mod_perl 2 framework for Sarge ?
> 
> Such a shame that the mod_perl 2 in Sarge is one of the 1.999 versions, and 
> that the behaviour between mod_perl in 'our' stable release will not match 
> what 
> it should do in 'the' stable mod_perl 2 distribution.
> 

I just tried to backport it and ran into this:

 -> Considering  perl (>= 5.8.7-3)
  Tried versions: 5.8.4-8
   -> Does not satisfy version, not trying

Since perl is a non-trivial thing to upgrade on a Debian system, that
could be a problem.  However, I went ahead and changed the perl
dependency to >= 5.8.4-8 (the version in Sarge).  I don't know *anything*
about perl, so I am not sure what ill effects this could possible have.
You are welcome to download the packages from my website:

http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian/libapache2-mod-perl2-dev_2.0.1-2.0.0.sanchez.0_i386.deb
http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/debian/libapache2-mod-perl2_2.0.1-2.0.0.sanchez.0_i386.deb

Please test them thoroughly and let me know if they even work.  If you
are happy with them, I will add them to my unofficial archive and keep
them reasonably up to date.

Also, if you are interested in doing this yourself, I have written a
HOWTO that covers customizing Debian packages which applies equally well
to backporting:

http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/?page=debcustomize

-Roberto

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Re: Q re missing rc.local file

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 03:26:12PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 04 August 2005 12:47, Bob Proulx wrote:
> >Gene Heskett wrote:
> >> I have a fairly lengthy list of things I've added to
> >> the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, which is softlinked from S99local in
> >> the various rcX.d directories in RH & Fedora and is the last thing
> >> executed before the login screen in a RG/Fedora runlevel 3 boot.
> >
> >On Debian there is no difference (by default) to the different run
> >levels.  This is an often confusing point to people switching to
> >Debian.  And the converse that run levels are meaningful to people
> >switching to Red Hat.
> 
> Yes, among other things if its setup for a graphical login, but I want 
> to first do a text login followed by a startx.  How then is this 
> accomplished?
> 
Decide which runlevel you want for that (likely 2) and then delete the
symlinks to the init.d script you want to skip.

-Roberto

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Re: Cups+printer install?

[Ishwar Rattan]

On Thu, 4 Aug 2005, Derek Broughton wrote:

> Ishwar;
> this question has nothing to do with debian-kde - but you don't need X to
> use a browser.  Use lynx or any other text browser.

It was posted to debian-user. I have no idea about debian-kde part.
Sorry for asking the question :-(

-ishwar


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855resolution help

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

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Hello List,

I used 855resolution to get a better resolution on my laptop but it couldn't
help me much.

I followed all the documentations, setup my /etc/default/855resolution file

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/doc/855resolution $ cat /etc/default/855resolution
#
# 855resolution default
#
# find free modes by  /usr/sbin/855resolution -l
# and set it to MODE
#
MODE=49
#
# and set resolutions for the mode.
#
XRESO=1280
YRESO=1024

And also changed the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file as mentioned in the docs.

But I still get the infamous error:

(II) I810(0): Xdebc Monitor: Using hsync range of 30.00-75.00 kHz
(II) I810(0): Xdebc Monitor: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-85.00 Hz
(II) I810(0): Not using mode "1280x1024" (no mode of this name)
(--) I810(0): Virtual size is 1024x768 (pitch 1024)
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "1024x768"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "800x600"
(**) I810(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"


Looking into the logs I found this too:

(II) I810(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) I810(0): clock: 65.0 MHz   Image Size:  304 x 228 mm
(II) I810(0): h_active: 1024  h_sync: 1048  h_sync_end 1184 h_blank_end 1344
h_border: 0
(II) I810(0): v_active: 768  v_sync: 771  v_sync_end 777 v_blanking: 806
v_border: 0
(II) I810(0):  SAMSUNG
(II) I810(0):  LTN150XB-L03



Does this mean that my LCD won't support anything beyond 1024x768 or can I
make it work ?

Incase you require my `lspci -v` output:

:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 3084
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10
Memory at e800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
Memory at e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
I/O ports at 1800 [size=8]
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1

:00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corp. 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics
Device (rev 02)
Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company: Unknown device 3084
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
Memory at f000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128M]
Memory at e008 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=512K]
Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 1


Any help from you will be really grateful to me.

Regards,

rrs
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Re: How to stop X, to get a text mode console (new to Debian, need help)

[Kent West]

Hans-Peter Sulzer wrote:

>This I didn't know, I read in a Linux Book to go
>to another console and enter init 3. I tried it
>also with init 2 (IMHO default text mode runlevel
>on Debian), but it didn't work). Thank you.
>  
>
Many distros use the runlevels to activate different features; Debian
has identical levels for 2 - 5, leaving any differences in the runlevels
to be determined by the system admin.

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Re: could not find the spam button

[[KS]]

kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> [KS] wrote:
> 
>> Raju, if you go to
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg00499.html you will see a
>> "Report as spam" button on top left of the page. Would you like to click
>> it and test ;)
>>
>> /KS
>>  
>>
> That is interesting. I get the spam button if I follow your approach.
> But using the following procedure, I am not getting any spam button.
> 
> 1) Go to http://lists.debian.org/
> 
> 2) Click on the searched link
> 
> 3) you will be at http://lists.debian.org/search.html
> 
> 4) search for say spam
> 
> 5) Go to one of the hits, and there is no "spam button"
> 
> Is this a bug? Should I report it? Can this be corrected?
> 
> thanks
> raju
> 
> 

I have noticed similar behaviour too. Although I didn't go to the
archived email via the search page but the button was not there! I don't
remember how I got there but if I do, I will post here.

/KS


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Re: Personal Debian mirror

[Adam Mercer]

On 04/08/05, Preston Boyington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian mirror 
> (amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when I tried it my 
> mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it should.  All the packages 
> were dumped into folders under "pool/" and folders it created such as 
> "stable", "unstable", and "woody" were essentially empty.  (Now I am trying 
> an rsync string to see what the difference will be.)
> 
> I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how they did 
> their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are there some good 
> howto's on doing it as efficiently as possible?
> 
> Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how 
> difficult it would be to use something like jigdo to create the disks from my 
> own mirror?

I've attached the debmirror script we run everyday to update the
mirror for our beowulf cluster, it maybe of some help

Cheers

Adam


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Re: Kernel Build Failure (long post!)

[Edward Dunagin]

jon, i don't know where you got the instructions for
building that kernel, but that is not the way i have
read about and have followed instructions from the
kernel sites i have followed.

use your HOWTO's about building a kernel and try
again..

good luck and Peace.ed

**snip*

k

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Bozeman, MT 59718
406.555-7282
Skype-phone +1 406 662 0179

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Re: How to download/install a harddrive file

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

pinecone wrote:


On Wed, 2005-03-08 at 11:39 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

 


Hi pinecone
  Could you explain what a "harddrive file" is? There are various ways 
to get a file from other computers (connected through lan or internet). 
The choices that come to mind are http, ssh, scp, sftp etc.,


raju
   


I mean a file sitting on my linux box hard drive, usually in a download
subdirectory of my home directory.

I download interesting packages like freemind from sourceforge.  I then
have a devil of a time trying to get Synaptic to locate it and proceed
with an install - it wants to find a repository on the internet.  The
sources.list has an entry for a local file which starts like this
file:///somename sarge main

So I try to replicate this.  The error repeatedly looks for extra
subdirectories on the way to the package. It seems to be following a
script. Very frustrating. So I now want to do it from the terminal in
hopes of avoiding this apparent limitation with the gui. I'd like to end
up with a listing in the applications menu of the gnome desktop or an
icon on the desktop.
 

I am forwarding it to the list as others might be able to help you on 
this issue.


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Re: could not find the spam button

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

[KS] wrote:


Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
 


On the recent DWN, the following was mentioned

Report Mail as Spam. From now on there is another possibility for the
normal user to help the Debian project. A button has been added to all
mail pages of the [31]mailing list archive to report this mail as
spam. Everybody who finds a spam message can click on the button to
report it back to the listserver. This will help to improve the spam
filter and to clean up the mailing lists from unwanted messages.

31. http://lists.debian.org/


I went to that site today and could not find any spam button. May be I
am doing something incorrect here. Could someone clarify where the spam
button is located on the above site? I am using Debian Sid,
mozilla-firefox 1.0.6, 2.6.12-1-686-smp kernel.

raju

   



Raju, if you go to
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg00499.html you will see a
"Report as spam" button on top left of the page. Would you like to click
it and test ;)

/KS

 

That is interesting. I get the spam button if I follow your approach. 
But using the following procedure, I am not getting any spam button.


1) Go to http://lists.debian.org/

2) Click on the searched link

3) you will be at http://lists.debian.org/search.html

4) search for say spam

5) Go to one of the hits, and there is no "spam button"

Is this a bug? Should I report it? Can this be corrected?

thanks
raju


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Re: playing contained mp3-files

[Jan Schledermann]

Florian Dorpmueller wrote:

>>I dont know about you, but I am a KDE-man!
>>Therefore I use Kaffeine.
>>Install:
>> kaffeine(I use 0.6-1)
>> kaffeine-mozilla(I use 0.4.3.1-1)
> 
> I have tried that with the packages provided by debian sarge. Kaffeine
> only opens a black window and I have found no way to make it playing the
> file until yet.
> 
> Flori
Could be that you are missing the required codecs.
I vaguely remember having installed a number of codec packs in the past. I
believe that a number of codecs are not distributed with the various media
player for copyright/patent reasons.
On my system these codecs are located at: /usr/local/lib/codecs
There are 126 files in this directory of which many are of.dll type =
windows stuff.
If you are having the /usr/local/lib/codecs but with less files, I can zip
my directory and mail it to you (+-28MB unzipped) if you want (and can
receive it)?

Best regards
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Re: Has anyone experience installing StarOffice 5.2 on Debian (new to Debian, StarOffice 5.2 is most important for me)

[Hans-Peter Sulzer]

On 02.08.2005 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 02, 2005 at 02:59:40PM +, Hans-Peter Sulzer wrote:
> > Hi,

> > Note that its successors (Open Office) are no solution
> > for me (no integrated Desktop, no news reader/mail client,
> > no StarShedule, ...). Especially the news reader would
> > be important, cause then I could use Debian, to write
> > my news (I read this mailing list via Usenet).

> There are approximately a kajillion (that's a technical term) news
> reader/writer programs in Debian.  To say nothing of the ones that are
> available for Linux but not packaged for Debian.

I know, but I have to learn a lot of new things, and I
would prefer to continue with the StarOffice news reader.
And as I have said, StarOffice 5.2 is the program I most
often use on my other OSs.

> > I know ask, if I simply should try to install it, as
> > described in the installation manual, or if there may
> > be problems, perhaps destroying my Debian installation.
> >
> I can't imagine that it would do anything *really* bad.  You may run
> into problems with not having the correct shared libraries, given the
> age of SO5.2.  But the necessary packages are probably still in Woody.

Well I think I will try it, when I have solved my font
problem (see another message from me).

> > Has anyone experience with installing StarOffice 5.2?
> >
> Why not just upgrade to SO7 or 8 (I think 8 is the newest version)?  It
> is fairly inexpensive, especially compared to MSO.

I love the integrated Desktop, the mail/news reader with 
spell checking, StarShedule, ... All of that is missing in
newer versions of StarOffice.

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Re: Nearly unreadable fonts with native resolution (1280x800) of my notebook (new to Debian, need help)

[Hans-Peter Sulzer]

On 02 August 2005 Clive Menzies wrote:

> > After I have changed XF86Config-4 (see below), to be able
> > to use the native resolution of 1280x800 of my notebook
> > (which works), the fonts (which looked good with interpolated
> > resolution of 1024x768) are nearly unreadable, but not
> > because they are too small, but because there seems to
> > be a mixture of black and white (or grey) pixels.
> >
> > Can I adjust anything?
> > ...

> I can't help you with this but someone else may.

> 

> Try commenting out
> # FontPath"unix/:7100"# local font server

Unfortunately this didn't change anything.

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Re: How to stop X, to get a text mode console (new to Debian, need help)

[Hans-Peter Sulzer]

02 August 2005 Kent West wrote:

>>How can I shutdown X to get a normal text mode terminal,
  
>Ctrl-Alt-F1, followed by (see below)

I knew that.

>>Currently the Gnome Display Manager (gdm?) is loaded
>>when booting (graphical login), and there seems to be
>>no option, to stop it, to get a text mode tty.
  
>/etc/init.d/gdm stop

This I didn't know, I read in a Linux Book to go
to another console and enter init 3. I tried it
also with init 2 (IMHO default text mode runlevel
on Debian), but it didn't work). Thank you.

>>How can I change my installation, so that it uses
>>the KDE display manager, which I have heard, has
>>the possibility to stop X, to get a text tty.
  
>aptitude install kdm
>(or if it's already installed, "dpkg-reconfigure kdm")
>And how (with gdm and kdm) can I restart X11, after
>doing some things in text mode (it takes a long time
>to reboot Debian completely)
> 
>startx
>
>or
>
>/etc/init.d/gdm start
>
>or
>
>/etc/init.d/kdm start

Thanks a lot. This problem is now solved. Still the
problem with the nearly unreadable fonts, but now I
can play with the XF86Config-4 file, cause I can
stop and restart X11 quickly.

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Re: upgrade from python2.3 to python2.4

[David Baron]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 22:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> > > I downloaded a game sudoku recently but I'm having troubles installing
> > > it. It requires Python 2.4 or higher and when I downloaded it first
> > > Python 2.3 was on my system. So I searched in aptitude if I can
> > > upgrade it and I found Python 2.4 - so I installed it. Tried to
> > > install the sudoku application but a message
> > >
> > > Error: Python-2.4 or newer is required. Current version:
> > >  2.3.5 (#2, Jun 19 2005, 13:28:00)
> > > [GCC 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-6)]
> >
> > Try to run the program with "python2.4 theprogram" instead of just
> > "theprogram".
> >
> > cheers,
> > Christian
>
> Thank you very much, so simple, yet I would never have thougt of that
> since I've been looking at the install instructions where they say
> nothing about that option...
>
> Anyway, when I thought the problem has been solved, it occurs
> something else has got in my way...
>
> This game requires 'PyGTK-2.3.93 or newer' also so I tried to install
> it... I downloaded the pygtk-2.4.0 and run
>
> # ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/python2.4
>
> as in instructions but I always get this line at the end:
>
> # checking whether /usr/lib/python2.4 version >= 2.3... configure:
> error: too old
>
> Then I read in the pygtk readme file the next:
>
> If your Python interpreter isn't in the path, or is not called
> "python", you can set the PYTHON environment variable to the full path
> of the interpreter:
>
>     $ PYTHON=/prefix/bin/python
>     $ export PYTHON
>
> And I entered:
>
> # PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2.4
> # export PYTHON
>
> But no change.
>
> I just spent so much time trying to search for a solution on the net
> but can't afford to loose any more time.
>
> I mean, it is a great game and in my opinion worth all the trouble but
> at the moment this just isn't a good use of my time. Maybe some of you
> good folks comes up with an idea in the mean time or tells me what I
> have been doing wrong.

I went through all of this as well. There is apparently no Debian package for 
one of the routines it uses so even 2.4 failed.

So ... I changed the code to "require" 2.3 and finally got it toe compile. Get 
an error when I try to run it.

I you want sudoku, there is a quick and dirty ruby program around. SInce it 
actually runs in a thinkly disguized xterm, firewall messages and such cover 
the board and their is no refresh. Better, get the sgt-puzzles package. Among 
its game clones of minesweeper, mastermind and such, there is "solo" which 
is ... sudoku and reasonably done.

Re: could not find the spam button

[[KS]]

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On the recent DWN, the following was mentioned
> 
> Report Mail as Spam. From now on there is another possibility for the
> normal user to help the Debian project. A button has been added to all
> mail pages of the [31]mailing list archive to report this mail as
> spam. Everybody who finds a spam message can click on the button to
> report it back to the listserver. This will help to improve the spam
> filter and to clean up the mailing lists from unwanted messages.
> 
> 31. http://lists.debian.org/
> 
> 
> I went to that site today and could not find any spam button. May be I
> am doing something incorrect here. Could someone clarify where the spam
> button is located on the above site? I am using Debian Sid,
> mozilla-firefox 1.0.6, 2.6.12-1-686-smp kernel.
> 
> raju
> 

Raju, if you go to
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/08/msg00499.html you will see a
"Report as spam" button on top left of the page. Would you like to click
it and test ;)

/KS


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Re: twitchy mouse

[Glenn English]

On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 15:28 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

> I've been running gkrellm since forever and it has never done that.  I 
> think I'd be for investigating the dma status of your hard drives 
> with hdparm as someone else already suggested.

This is a new machine: a Sun dual Opteron box with the sarge AMD64 smp
kernel. 

I used gkrellm, too, with no probs on my previous P4 home-brew box. But
here, gkrellm runs, the mouse twitches; gkrellm stops, the mouse is OK
again. Turning off all the modules in gkrellm didn't do it either. 

hdparm shows the IDE disk with DMA on. Besides, nothing else changed
(that I know of) between gkrellm off and on...

I'd be very pleased to know about it if I'm wrong -- I do like watching
the bits move around :-)

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Re: twitchy mouse

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 14:25, Glenn English wrote:
>On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:40 -0600, Glenn English wrote:
>> Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea
>> what might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do
>> something every 5 seconds?
>
>Hate to reply to my own post, but it was gkrellm.
>
I've been running gkrellm since forever and it has never done that.  I 
think I'd be for investigating the dma status of your hard drives 
with hdparm as someone else already suggested.

>Never mind...
>
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Re: Q re missing rc.local file

[Gene Heskett]

On Thursday 04 August 2005 12:47, Bob Proulx wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> I have a fairly lengthy list of things I've added to
>> the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, which is softlinked from S99local in
>> the various rcX.d directories in RH & Fedora and is the last thing
>> executed before the login screen in a RG/Fedora runlevel 3 boot.
>
>On Debian there is no difference (by default) to the different run
>levels.  This is an often confusing point to people switching to
>Debian.  And the converse that run levels are meaningful to people
>switching to Red Hat.

Yes, among other things if its setup for a graphical login, but I want 
to first do a text login followed by a startx.  How then is this 
accomplished?

[...]

>There is no default "local" rc script.  Which is perhaps a shame
>because this is an often asked question.  But there is a template
> that you can use to easily create one for yourself.
>
>  cd /etc/init.d
>  cp skeleton localrc
>  editor localrc  # edit as you desire

Ahh, that I can handle.  I take it it gets sourced if it exists as 
localrc?
>
>That file has examples of almost everything in it.  You won't need
>almost everything in your copy.  Please delete what you don't need.
>In fact it may be better to pick an active working script and use it
>instead.  You will be ahead in terms of avoiding the noise.  But
>skeleton is still a good example because it does have a lot of
> stuff.
>
>  cp cron localrc
>  editor localrc  # edit as you desire
>
>Of course that is a traditional daemon startup.  If you just want to
>run commands then you might find hwclock.sh more to your liking.
>
>  cp cron localrc
>  editor localrc  # edit as you desire
>
>In any case, there is a tool to set up the symlinks that can be
>thought of as a chkconfig like tool.
>
>  update-rc.d localrc defaults
>
>This is really a scripting interface.  So normally users don't need
> to know about the command.  But it is used in packages in the
> postinst script.  And the reverse removal is 'update-rc.d localrc
> remove'.

But, what do I do it aI want to remove boinc, but not setibatch?  
Obviously we're back to hand editing.  I'm capable of that.

Maybe a different tack needs to be taken by way of having an etc/local 
dir, and anything placed it it gets sourced at startup?  Is something 
like that possible in the future?

Thanks Bob.

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Re: Swap always full

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

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> It seems that with in 15 minutes of logging into my account I'm out of
> swap and low on physical memory.
> 
> Swap partition is 64 Meg and I have 128 Megs of Physical.  I'm
> upgrading to 1Gig very shortly but would still like to know why I'm
> swapping so much.
> 
> I usually only run Firefox, XMMS, Gaim, Gkrellm, and Gnome (It was
> swapping this much under enlightenment as well).
> 
> I don't even know where to start.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Dave Berg

Try `memstat` and see what application is using how much memory.

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Re: Personal Debian mirror

[Joerg Beyer]

Ryan Nowakowski wrote:
> I ended up using apt-proxy to build a mirror of just the packages that I
> use.  Works great.

How do you translate the /etc/apt/sources.list entries to
apt-proxy backend configuration entries?

Joerg
> 
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 09:13:54AM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:
> 
>>I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian mirror 
>>(amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when I tried it my 
>>mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it should.  All the packages 
>>were dumped into folders under "pool/" and folders it created such as 
>>"stable", "unstable", and "woody" were essentially empty.  (Now I am trying 
>>an rsync string to see what the difference will be.)
>>
>>I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how they did 
>>their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are there some good 
>>howto's on doing it as efficiently as possible?
>>
>>Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how 
>>difficult it would be to use something like jigdo to create the disks from my 
>>own mirror?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Preston


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Re: (Briefly) Fstab

[Rob Benton]

Cubells wrote:

Try this:

/dev/hda1   /media/windows  ntfsnls=utf8,umask=0222 0   0


See you on the net...

David R. Litwin wrote:


I have changed my fstab so that it automatically mount my Windows
partition in to /mnt/windows:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hdc1/mnt/windowsntfsdefaults02
/dev/hdc2   /   ext2defaults,errors=remount-ro 
0   1

/dev/hdc3   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdb/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/hdd/media/cdrom1   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0

The problem is that running as a normal user, I can not access this
folder. I know that this is because I have set the Options to default:
The Options must allow me to access the folder from my regular user.
What is the Option that I need?

Thank you kindly in advance.
 







In addition to all that you can also specify a user and group as the owners:

/dev/hda2   /windows/C  ntfs user,uid=rbento,gid=rbento,umask=0022


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could not find the spam button

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

On the recent DWN, the following was mentioned

Report Mail as Spam. From now on there is another possibility for the
normal user to help the Debian project. A button has been added to all
mail pages of the [31]mailing list archive to report this mail as
spam. Everybody who finds a spam message can click on the button to
report it back to the listserver. This will help to improve the spam
filter and to clean up the mailing lists from unwanted messages.

31. http://lists.debian.org/


I went to that site today and could not find any spam button. May be I 
am doing something incorrect here. Could someone clarify where the spam 
button is located on the above site? I am using Debian Sid, 
mozilla-firefox 1.0.6, 2.6.12-1-686-smp kernel.


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Re: twitchy mouse

[Glenn English]

On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 12:25 -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:40 -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> > Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
> > might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do something
> > every 5 seconds?
> 
> Hate to reply to my own post, but it was gkrellm.
> 
> Never mind...

And thanks anyway for all the replies I didn't see with my head behind
the box.

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Re: twitchy mouse

[Glenn English]

On Thu, 2005-08-04 at 11:40 -0600, Glenn English wrote:
> Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
> might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do something
> every 5 seconds?

Hate to reply to my own post, but it was gkrellm.

Never mind...

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Re: External USB and dirvish -- getting error

[[KS]]

Preston Boyington wrote:
> From: [KS]
> To: Debian User
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I run nightly backups on my external USB drive using dirvish and it has
>>been working perfectly since the last few days when I started them.
>>However, when I went to work on the machine this morning, I heard some
>>wierd noise and noticed that the external USB was the cause of the
>>noise. Usually, it spins down after a few mintues of activity but today
>>it is spinning and making a noise.
>>
>>I checked the processes and to my surprise dirvish was still running. On
>>checking the syslog I have repeated listings,
>>
>>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code =
>>0x600
>>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda,
>>sector 276642847
>>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda2,
>>logical block 21473324
>>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda2
>>
>>What should be the correct method to stop dirvish now? Do I just kill
>>the process!
>>
>>I had upgraded the kernle to 2.6.12 a few days ago. Could it be due to
>>that? But I have a feeling that it could be something else as the
>>backups were done when I checked yesterday morning.
>>
>>/KS
>>
> 
> 
> You should check the drive.  It looks like the drive stopped responding.
> 
> If the noise sounds like "clip clop" or "tick tock" then the drive is (most 
> likely) going bad.  If this is the case then replace the drive and try it 
> again.  I wouldn't think that the software is your problem unless the USB 
> "timed out" somehow.
> 
> Preston
> 

I finally had to kill the process but that wouldn't stop the USB from
making the wierd noise either. The I rebooted the system, and the JFS
repaired a journal from the USB disk. But now the disk is making a
constant click click click .. click click click . noises ( =
pause).

I called up Western Digital and pressed the RMA option. The operator
just asked me about the serial number and my address and said that my
request has been saved and they will be shipping a replacement HDD soon.

/KS


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Re: sarge, kernel 2.6.12.3, and sound

[Bryan Donlan]

On 8/4/05, Steven Pasternak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi! I have sarge, with kernel 2.4.27-2-k7. I upgraded to a 2.6.12.3
> using sarge's 2.6.8 config, but now I don't have sound. /dev/{dsp,mixer}
> are gone. I have the "use OSS API" set under "Device
> Drivers->Sound->Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" Is that bad? I
> installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and ran '/etc/init.d/alsa start', but
> still no devices. What's up? Thanks!
> -Steven

I've heard something about sysfs format changes requiring a new udev -
perhaps you could try installing the udev in sid, if you've got an
older version installed? Note that this new udev will not work with
kernels older than 2.6.12, so if you downgrade the kernel you'll need
to downgrade udev as well.

Re: sarge, kernel 2.6.12.3, and sound

[Ryan King]

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 01:22:03PM -0400, Steven Pasternak wrote:
> Hi! I have sarge, with kernel 2.4.27-2-k7. I upgraded to a 2.6.12.3 
> using sarge's 2.6.8 config, but now I don't have sound. /dev/{dsp,mixer} 
> are gone. I have the "use OSS API" set under "Device 
> Drivers->Sound->Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" Is that bad? I 
> installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and ran '/etc/init.d/alsa start', but 
> still no devices. What's up? Thanks!

I'm no pro at this, but I ran into the same thing.

I have a 2.6.x kernel and a working /dev/dsp (used for Skype - the rest of
my stuff is ALSAfied now).

Try: modprobe snd_{pcm,mixer}_oss

I think that fills in the brains behind /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer

Here's my module list, in case it helps:
Module  Size  Used by
nvidia   3711044  12 
agpgart34664  1 nvidia
parport_pc 36900  1 
lp 11176  0 
parport41800  2 parport_pc,lp
joydev  9984  0 
mousedev   10476  1 
ipv6  264740  10 
genrtc  9588  0 
af_packet  22568  2 
ehci_hcd   32004  0 
uhci_hcd   33136  0 
via82cxxx  14332  1 
via_rhine  21672  0 
mii 5120  1 via_rhine
capability  4520  0 
commoncap   7232  1 capability
snd_usb_audio  73216  0 
snd_via82xx29540  0 
snd_ac97_codec 69988  1 snd_via82xx
snd_pcm_oss55080  0 
snd_mixer_oss  20096  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm98728  3 snd_usb_audio,snd_via82xx,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer  25732  1 snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 11752  2 snd_via82xx,snd_pcm
gameport4704  1 snd_via82xx
snd_mpu401_uart 7968  1 snd_via82xx
snd_rawmidi25124  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_mpu401_uart
snd_seq_device  8200  1 snd_rawmidi
snd57156  10

snd_usb_audio,snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
soundcore  10336  1 snd
usbhid 32224  0 
usbcore   119012  6 ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd,snd_usb_audio,usbhid
psmouse20360  0 
ide_generic 1408  0 
ide_disk   19296  0 
ide_cd 42656  0 
ide_core  139940  4 via82cxxx,ide_generic,ide_disk,ide_cd
cdrom  40732  1 ide_cd
ext3  127240  2 
jbd62616  1 ext3
mbcache 9348  1 ext3
sd_mod 21728  4 
sata_via7428  3 
libata 41700  1 sata_via
scsi_mod  125228  2 sd_mod,libata
unix   28756  130 
font8320  0 
vesafb  6656  0 
cfbcopyarea 3872  1 vesafb
cfbimgblt   3040  1 vesafb
cfbfillrect 3776  1 vesafb

Tschüs,
-rjk


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Re: twitchy mouse

[James Burke]

On Thu, 04 Aug 2005 11:40:11 -0600
Glenn English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
> might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do something
> every 5 seconds?
> 
> -- 
> Glenn English
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 

I had the same problem when dma wasn't turned on for the harddrive.


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Mod perl backport for Sarge.

[Andy Davidson]

Hi,

I recently asked this on debian-perl, but the list seems to be much 
quieter than this one; hoping someone on here might have an answer.


Is anyone maintaining a, or planning to maintain a backport of the 
released, stable mod_perl 2 framework for Sarge ?


Such a shame that the mod_perl 2 in Sarge is one of the 1.999 versions, 
and that the behaviour between mod_perl in 'our' stable release will not 
match what it should do in 'the' stable mod_perl 2 distribution.


Thanks,
Andy


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Re: twitchy mouse

[Thomas Adam]

--- Glenn English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
> might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do
> something
> every 5 seconds?

Well, there's a few ideas.  It could be that, if you're using ext3, the
journal is being saved.  By default (unless you change it with
'tune2fs') the journal is committed every five seconds.

The other, perhaps less obvious idea, is that you need to change your
mouse settings via the 'xset' command.

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Re: twitchy mouse

[Steve Lamb]

Glenn English wrote:
> Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
> might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do something
> every 5 seconds?

Low batteries if it is wireless?

Receiver too close to some other EM source like the monitor/speakers?
Again if it is wireless.

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twitchy mouse

[Glenn English]

Every 5 seconds, my mouse freezes for about .2 seconds. Any idea what
might be causing that? Or a way of listing processes that do something
every 5 seconds?

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Can't get more than 1024x768 even with the on-board card properly detected (XFree86+KDE 3.3)

[Fernando Cacciola]

Hi

I finally installed Sarge (dual boot with WinXP) on a P4 with an D865GBF 
Intel Motherboard using packages downloaded from a previous installation on 
another older PC (via jigdo, which worked fine)

I have a few pending details to adjust, but one of them I eluding me...

Post install and with KDE 3.3 up and running fine, I run dpkg-reconfigure 
xserver-xfree86

to adjust some X settings.

The script made a wonderful job at detecting my video and monitor hardware 
(an On-board AGP with 64Mb and a 15" Phillips) so it proposed itself the 
right configuration (as I could see becasue the actual names were shown to 
me); thus, I choosen resolutions higher than 1024x768, which I know the card 
and monitor handles nicely becasue I use 1152x864 in WinXP and it does work 
up to 1280x1024 -except that *I* can't read anything there-.

I only get at most 1024x768 in KDE 3.3 (and I think in gdm too) (in fact, 
the pulldown menu shows just up to this resolution)

How can I fix this?

Related note: I see I have both XF86Config and XF86Config-4.. which one is 
my system using? How can I tell? Why are there both?

TIA

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sarge, kernel 2.6.12.3, and sound

[Steven Pasternak]

Hi! I have sarge, with kernel 2.4.27-2-k7. I upgraded to a 2.6.12.3 
using sarge's 2.6.8 config, but now I don't have sound. /dev/{dsp,mixer} 
are gone. I have the "use OSS API" set under "Device 
Drivers->Sound->Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" Is that bad? I 
installed alsa-base and alsa-utils and ran '/etc/init.d/alsa start', but 
still no devices. What's up? Thanks!

-Steven


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Re: Cups+printer install?

[Derek Broughton]

Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:

>>On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
>>
 Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
 a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

 I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
 the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.
>>>
> Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
> 
>>Are you using KDE?  If so, I believe you can use the KDE Control Center
>>
> The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center activates a printer
> wizard.  I found it more
> intuitively easy to use than the http://localhost:631/ option in the
> browser.  

I have two problems with this thread: first, why did he post to debian-kde
when he says he doesn't want to install X?; second, why are we giving him
advice to use the KDE control center???

Ishwar;
this question has nothing to do with debian-kde - but you don't need X to
use a browser.  Use lynx or any other text browser.
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Re: Glennie-? Do you have url for Apache2 info we discussed?

[Glennie Vignarajah]

Le Thursday 4 August 2005 16:56, Johnny Smith(Johnny Smith 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) disait:
>
> Hi Glennie,

Hello,


>
> Since I want to educate myself more on the subject of
> Apache2 as used in Debian, I am hoping you might point
> me to a particular url which would have more
> information on Apache2 and the Commands we discussed.

I use docs from http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/.

 For debian, you can find some useful documentation 
in /usr/share/docs/
 I used to use also 'dlocate  | less' (this will list all 
files included in the package) and when I see a command, I used to 
use man/google to learn about that command !

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Re: upgrade from python2.3 to python2.4

[Dom]

On 8/3/05, Christian Henz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/3/05, Dom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I downloaded a game sudoku recently but I'm having troubles installing
> > it. It requires Python 2.4 or higher and when I downloaded it first
> > Python 2.3 was on my system. So I searched in aptitude if I can
> > upgrade it and I found Python 2.4 - so I installed it. Tried to
> > install the sudoku application but a message
> >
> > Error: Python-2.4 or newer is required. Current version:
> >  2.3.5 (#2, Jun 19 2005, 13:28:00)
> > [GCC 3.3.6 (Debian 1:3.3.6-6)]
> >
> 
> Try to run the program with "python2.4 theprogram" instead of just 
> "theprogram".
> 
> cheers,
> Christian
> 
> 
Thank you very much, so simple, yet I would never have thougt of that
since I've been looking at the install instructions where they say
nothing about that option...

Anyway, when I thought the problem has been solved, it occurs
something else has got in my way...

This game requires 'PyGTK-2.3.93 or newer' also so I tried to install
it... I downloaded the pygtk-2.4.0 and run

# ./configure --prefix=/usr/lib/python2.4

as in instructions but I always get this line at the end:

# checking whether /usr/lib/python2.4 version >= 2.3... configure:
error: too old

Then I read in the pygtk readme file the next:

If your Python interpreter isn't in the path, or is not called
"python", you can set the PYTHON environment variable to the full path
of the interpreter:

$ PYTHON=/prefix/bin/python
$ export PYTHON

And I entered:

# PYTHON=/usr/bin/python2.4
# export PYTHON

But no change.

I just spent so much time trying to search for a solution on the net
but can't afford to loose any more time.

I mean, it is a great game and in my opinion worth all the trouble but
at the moment this just isn't a good use of my time. Maybe some of you
good folks comes up with an idea in the mean time or tells me what I
have been doing wrong.

Thanks,
Dom

Re: Q re missing rc.local file

[Bob Proulx]

Gene Heskett wrote:
> I have a fairly lengthy list of things I've added to 
> the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, which is softlinked from S99local in the 
> various rcX.d directories in RH & Fedora and is the last thing 
> executed before the login screen in a RG/Fedora runlevel 3 boot.

On Debian there is no difference (by default) to the different run
levels.  This is an often confusing point to people switching to
Debian.  And the converse that run levels are meaningful to people
switching to Red Hat.

There is a reason the run levels are not really important.  Here is
the rationale as I see it.  On Debian using APT managing software is
very easy.  So if you want something to run then you install it.  If
you don't want something to run then uninstall it.

Want to install the Gnome flavor of xdm?  Just install it.

  apt-get install gdm

Decide you don't like it?  Then remove it.

  apt-get remove gdm

Decide you want to put it back?  Then put it back.

  apt-get install gdm

Because configuration files are not removed any previous configuration
that you used will still be present.  The second installation won't
need to ask you those same questions again because you always answer
them.  It is a trivial installation.  Run levels do not come into play
unless you want them to.  You can always configure gdm to only start
in run level 5 and then use run levels to control whether it starts or
not.  But distros have been taught that most users require a graphical
login.  Those that want a text based login are in the minority and
will have to configure the system for that themselves.  And usually
the people who want a text mode login are fully capable so no problem.

Also in general when something is installed then it will be running.
There is no need to do extra processing such as running "chkconfig
daemon on" and then also running "service daemon start" in order to
finish things off.

Of course I am just using gdm as an example.  But any in that class
are the same such as Postfix.  If you install Postfix it will remove
Exim, Sendmail, or other MTAs.  Because normally you only run one
daemon on the SMTP port 25.  So installing one pushes the other out.
If you want to switch MTA programs then simply install the one that
you want to run.  There is no need for chkconfig on a Debian system.

In some of the lessor distros this is not the case.  User's there have
been conditioned that installing software is hard.  The only time you
can count on it working is at initial system installation time from
the cdroms.  So they try to install everything that they can at at
that time.  Because if they wait six months and then try to install
something like postfix then they get into a dependency hell where they
can't actually install it because all of the libraries have drifted.
Of course in very recent times there is apt4rpm and yum from the user
community to address these problems.  But still the legacy is there.

This mentality means that most of those installations have both
sendmail and postfix installed at the same time for one example.  But
only one is configured to run.  And installing something like BIND
does not mean that it will be configured to run.  So on those distros
you need to use 'chkconfig' to stitch in the rc scripts and then
'service' get it going.  But those operations are not needed nor
desired on Debian systems.

Okay, that was a little long.  But I think necessary to set the
process model of the system and why things are different on the
different systems.

> Stuff like a 4 line stanza that sets up and runs my setiathome admin 
> script before I'm even logged in as any user, so it runs regardless 
> of the login state of anyone.
>
> So where do I put the 'local' stuff in a debian install?
>
> I could use a short tutorial on the debian setup in re the various 
> rcX.d directories if someone has the time, or a pointer to a manpage 
> if there is one.

There is no default "local" rc script.  Which is perhaps a shame
because this is an often asked question.  But there is a template that
you can use to easily create one for yourself.

  cd /etc/init.d
  cp skeleton localrc
  editor localrc  # edit as you desire

That file has examples of almost everything in it.  You won't need
almost everything in your copy.  Please delete what you don't need.
In fact it may be better to pick an active working script and use it
instead.  You will be ahead in terms of avoiding the noise.  But
skeleton is still a good example because it does have a lot of stuff.

  cp cron localrc
  editor localrc  # edit as you desire

Of course that is a traditional daemon startup.  If you just want to
run commands then you might find hwclock.sh more to your liking.

  cp cron localrc
  editor localrc  # edit as you desire

In any case, there is a tool to set up the symlinks that can be
thought of as a chkconfig like tool.

  update-rc.d localrc defaults

This is really a scripting interface.  So normally users don't need to
know about the comman

Re: Kernel Build Failure (long post!)

[Nick Miller]

Jon D. Irish wrote:

I am trying to build a kernel off of 2.6.12.3 I want to do this to get 
sound working. Thus, I downloaded everything from www.kernel.org 
 and uncompressed it to /usr/src. Upon running 
"make xconfig" I load the default debian config from /boot.Next, I go 
to the processor type and features section and select Pentium-4 
instead of the default 386 (as I have a Pentium 4 processor). Next, I 
go down to Device drivers\Sound. Here I select Sound card support (I 
am guessing that a checkmark means that it will be built into the 
kernel while a dot indicates it will be built as a module), Advanced 
Linux Sound Architecture (with Sequencer support, OSS Mixer API, OSS 
PCM API, and OSS Sequencer API), and under PCI devices I select 
Emu10k1X (as the sound is embedded in a Dell box). Next, I save and 
exit. Now I run "make-kpkg clean" from /usr/src/linux followed by 
"make-kpkg--revision=786:MyKernel2.6.12.3 kernel_image" (I got this 
command from a how-to). It runs for about 20-30 minutes at which time 
it barfs with these errors:
 
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:33:19: gamma.h: No such file or directory

In file included from drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:37:
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:66: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:66: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:68: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:68: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:70: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:70: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:74: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:74: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:76: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:76: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:77: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:77: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:78: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:78: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:83: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:83: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:84: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:84: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:85: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:85: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:86: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:86: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:87: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:87: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:88: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:88: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:90: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:90: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:91: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:91: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:94: warning: parameter names (without 
types) in function declaration

drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:94: error: conflicting types for `DRM'
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.h:91: error: previous declaration of `DRM'
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:39:22: drm_auth.h: No such file or directory
drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:40:28: drm_agpsupport.h: No such file or 
directory

drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:41:22: drm_bufs.h: No such file or directory
In file included from drivers/char/drm/gamma_drv.c:42:
drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h: In function `gamma_fops_read':
drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h:48: error: structure has no member 
named `dev'

drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h: At top level:
drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h:96: error: `DRM' declared as function 
returning a function
drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h:96: warning: function declaration 
isn't a prototype

drivers/char/drm/gamma_context.h:96: error: conflicting types for `

Re: Restoring mysql 3.23.54a-0.woody backups to 4.0.24-10 (sarge)

[Tom]

Sorry.. here are the details of the syntax errors:

mobile:~# mysql -u root -p < mysql_backup.sql.sql
Enter password:
ERROR 1064 at line 20: You have an error in your SQL syntax.  Check 
the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the 
right syntax to use near 'from varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  return-path varchar(255) NOT NULL

mobile:~# head -35 mysql_backup.sql.sql| tail -20
-- Table structure for table 'mails'
--

DROP TABLE IF EXISTS mails;
CREATE TABLE mails (
  id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment,
  tipo char(1) default NULL,
  sub varchar(255) NOT NULL default '',
  from varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  return-path varchar(255) NOT NULL,
  to varchar(255) NOT NULL default '',
  path text NOT NULL,
  size int(10) unsigned default NULL,
  data date default NULL,
  hour time default NULL,
  ip varchar(15) NOT NULL default '',
  atts varchar(255) NOT NULL default '',
  PRIMARY KEY  (id)
) TYPE=MyISAM;




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Tom


Em Qui 04 Ago 2005 13:19, Tom escreveu:
>   Hello!
>
>
>   I have a old woody mysql 3.23.54a DB and have to transfer all
> databases and privilegies tables to a new mysql installation,
> version 4.0.24-10, running on debian sarge.
>   Well, I ran
>
>   mysqldump -u root -p --opt -A > mysql_backup.sql
>
>   to create it, and when I tried to restore on the new system (mysql
> 4.0.24-10 on sarge), I got 'syntax errors' from 'mysql_backup.sql'
> file =(
>
>   Some hint?
>
>
>   PS: I searched on google, debian maillist and mysql doc with no
> results.
>
>
>   Thank you
>   Tom


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Restoring mysql 3.23.54a-0.woody backups to 4.0.24-10 (sarge)

[Tom]

Hello!


I have a old woody mysql 3.23.54a DB and have to transfer all 
databases and privilegies tables to a new mysql installation, version 
4.0.24-10, running on debian sarge.
Well, I ran

mysqldump -u root -p --opt -A > mysql_backup.sql

to create it, and when I tried to restore on the new system (mysql 
4.0.24-10 on sarge), I got 'syntax errors' from 'mysql_backup.sql' 
file =(

Some hint?


PS: I searched on google, debian maillist and mysql doc with no 
results.


Thank you
Tom


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Re: Personal Debian mirror

[Bob Proulx]

Preston Boyington wrote:
> I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian
> mirror (amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when
> I tried it my mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it
> should.  All the packages were dumped into folders under "pool/" and

That is correct.  Packages in the pool may be shared between
distributions.

> folders it created such as "stable", "unstable", and "woody" were
> essentially empty.

Those should contain the Packages and Sources files.  You should be
able to point your sources.list there to retrieve them.

> I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how
> they did their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are
> there some good howto's on doing it as efficiently as possible?

I use debmirror.

debmirror --verbose --progress --source --postcleanup --ignore-missing-release \
-e http --host ftp.us.debian.org -r debian \
-d woody,sarge -a i386,ia64 \
/mnt/mirrors/http.us.debian.org/debian

> Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how
> difficult it would be to use something like jigdo to create the
> disks from my own mirror?

The mirror that is created is no different than any other Debian
package depot.  Point to it normally.

Bob


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Re: Onboard Graphics Problem

[Roger Creasy]

On 8/2/05, Roger Creasy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello:
> 
> I am trying to get Sarge installed, but am having difficulties with
> the video. The output is pixelated and the only resolution setting
> available is 640X480. lspci reports that the graphics card is:
> :00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82810E DC-133 CGC
> [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03). The monitor is an NEC
> Multisync II. The refresh rates are set according to monitorworld.com
> specs.
> 
> The box is a pieced-together-from-scraps machine based around a Compaq
> with a 633 MHZ Celeron
> 
> Thanks for any assistance...
> 
> Roger
> 
Someone suggested that the problem may be a bios setting. Does this
sound like a possibility. Can anyone make a suggestion?

Roger

Re: 884MB instead of 1024MB memory and HIGHMEM enabled

[sYs]

Problem resolved, i recompiled the kernel and restarted, probably it was 
my m8s fault .  Also enabled config.gz  support  it's very useful. 
Thanks for youre advices.


Regards, sYs^


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Q re missing rc.local file

[Gene Heskett]

Greetings;

I just ran into a bit of a problem caused by the diffs between a RH 
install and a debian-3.1 install.

I have a fairly lengthy list of things I've added to 
the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, which is softlinked from S99local in the 
various rcX.d directories in RH & Fedora and is the last thing 
executed before the login screen in a RG/Fedora runlevel 3 boot.

Stuff like a 4 line stanza that sets up and runs my setiathome admin 
script before I'm even logged in as any user, so it runs regardless 
of the login state of anyone.

So where do I put the 'local' stuff in a debian install?

I could use a short tutorial on the debian setup in re the various 
rcX.d directories if someone has the time, or a pointer to a manpage 
if there is one.

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Re: AM radio recorder

[Ryan Nowakowski]

On Sun, Jul 31, 2005 at 10:35:05AM -0700, dbp lists wrote:
> On 7/31/05, dbp lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So I've been thinking about just using a radio (with AM capability,
> > obviously) and using an 8mm plug (male conneciton on both ends) and
> > connecting the output of the radio to the input (microphone socket) of
> > my soundblaster sound card on my linux box.   THen I can use some bash
> > scripts and "at" commands or cronjobs to record the shows I want.
> 
> I should add that most of the programs I want are on one station so
> it's okay that I can't control the station with the computer.
>
You could get an AM receiver with digital remote.  Then you could use
LIRC and an IR transmitter to control the receiver.


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Re: Personal Debian mirror

[Ryan Nowakowski]

I ended up using apt-proxy to build a mirror of just the packages that I
use.  Works great.

On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 09:13:54AM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote:
> I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian mirror 
> (amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when I tried it my 
> mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it should.  All the packages 
> were dumped into folders under "pool/" and folders it created such as 
> "stable", "unstable", and "woody" were essentially empty.  (Now I am trying 
> an rsync string to see what the difference will be.)
> 
> I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how they did 
> their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are there some good 
> howto's on doing it as efficiently as possible?
> 
> Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how 
> difficult it would be to use something like jigdo to create the disks from my 
> own mirror?
> 
> Thanks,
> Preston


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Re: External USB and dirvish -- getting error

[Preston Boyington]

From: [KS]
To: Debian User
>
>Hi,
>
>I run nightly backups on my external USB drive using dirvish and it has
>been working perfectly since the last few days when I started them.
>However, when I went to work on the machine this morning, I heard some
>wierd noise and noticed that the external USB was the cause of the
>noise. Usually, it spins down after a few mintues of activity but today
>it is spinning and making a noise.
>
>I checked the processes and to my surprise dirvish was still running. On
>checking the syslog I have repeated listings,
>
>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code =
>0x600
>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda,
>sector 276642847
>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda2,
>logical block 21473324
>Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda2
>
>What should be the correct method to stop dirvish now? Do I just kill
>the process!
>
>I had upgraded the kernle to 2.6.12 a few days ago. Could it be due to
>that? But I have a feeling that it could be something else as the
>backups were done when I checked yesterday morning.
>
>/KS
>

You should check the drive.  It looks like the drive stopped responding.

If the noise sounds like "clip clop" or "tick tock" then the drive is (most 
likely) going bad.  If this is the case then replace the drive and try it 
again.  I wouldn't think that the software is your problem unless the USB 
"timed out" somehow.

Preston

System Log Daemon on Bootup

[Leonid Grinberg]

I have just moved which means I did not have any Internet access for a
few days. When I moved, however, my computer was working but did not
have a connection which lead me to notice two things (at bootup):
First of all, the DHCPDISCOVER messages took a really long time not
finding anything (which, of course, is to be expected) and the
Starting System Log Daemon message took an obnoxious time to load
(around 10 minutes). I am not sure what syslogd is, so I suspected
that it might be due to lack of Internet access, but now I have
Internet access and the syslogd message is still as obnoxious as ever.

After doing man syslogd, I discovered that it uses a configuration
file, /etc/syslog.conf. I decided to try something out, and commented
all the lines out, but the ones that were not commented, I commented
with ## as opposed to # so I can remember them later. After rebooting
I found that the syslogd message goes by a lot quicker which means
that it is getting stuck somewhere in the file.

The file is uncommented at present but can anybody tell me why it is
getting stuck and what I can do about it? Is it OK to comment it out
like I did?

Thank you,
Leonid Grinberg

Re: Personal Debian mirror

[Bryan Donlan]

On 8/4/05, Preston Boyington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian mirror 
> (amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when I tried it my 
> mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it should.  All the packages 
> were dumped into folders under "pool/" and folders it created such as 
> "stable", "unstable", and "woody" were essentially empty.  (Now I am trying 
> an rsync string to see what the difference will be.)

This is normal. Since distributions often share packages, they are
stored only once, in pool/, and the distribution directories refer to
the pool packages.

> I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how they did 
> their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are there some good 
> howto's on doing it as efficiently as possible?
> 
> Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how 
> difficult it would be to use something like jigdo to create the disks from my 
> own mirror?

If your mirror has all the packages it needs it should be easy - just
give jigdo-lite the address of your own mirror instead of one of the
main debian ones.

Re: Troubling security news for sarge users of mozilla, firefox, thunderbird...

[Kevin B. McCarty]

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Ralph Katz wrote:

> Troubling security news for sarge users of mozilla, firefox, and
> thunderbird is unfolding on debian-security:

[snip]

> Alexander Sack has backported thunderbird 1.06:
> http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/84-Sarge-Backport-Release-Thunderbird-1.0.6-1-and-enigmail-0.92.0-1-uploaded.html
> 
> Yet I'm wondering how other sarge users are going to address the
> security concerns?  Backport, install from Mozilla tarball, upgrade to
> unstable, change to kmail/konqueror?

I backported the newest versions of mozilla, firefox, thunderbird and
enigmail to Sarge.  (Sorry, no galeon or epiphany since I don't use
them.)  Anyone who wants them and is willing to trust me (shouldn't be
too scary since I'm in the NM queue :-) can get the packages here:

deb http://borex.princeton.edu/~kmccarty/ sarge main
deb-src http://borex.princeton.edu/~kmccarty/ sarge main

Please note I can't promise that I will keep up with future new releases
in Sid.  I would much rather these packages live at backports.org but it
doesn't seem to have them available yet.  And as usual there is no
warranty; if something breaks you get to keep both pieces.

Two notes:

1) I jumped the gun and backported Mozilla 1.7.11 even though the latest
version available in Sid is still 1.7.10.
2) Regarding Enigmail, only the mozilla-thunderbird-enigmail package
will work; the mozilla-enigmail package doesn't yet support the new
Mozilla version.

regards,

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Glennie-? Do you have url for Apache2 info we discussed?

[Johnny Smith]

> --- Glennie Vignarajah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Le Saturday 30 July 2005 18:40, Johnny
> Smith(Johnny
> > Smith 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) disait:
> > Hello,

> > > Could someone tell me what command allows me to
> > > reconfigure Apache2 and add this module?
> > You can do this with 'a2enmod rewrite'.
> > You can also use this command interactively just
> by
> > typing 
> > 'a2ensmod'.
> > BTW, if you whish to disable a module use
> 'a2dismod'

Hi Glennie,

Since I want to educate myself more on the subject of
Apache2 as used in Debian, I am hoping you might point
me to a particular url which would have more
information on Apache2 and the Commands we discussed. 

Many thanks for helping me and for any url/s you can
point me to.

Johnny





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Re: PCMCIA wireless help needed

[Derek \"The Monkey\" Wueppelmann]

On Thu, 2005-04-08 at 23:53 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> This is what I have in my /etc/network/interfaces file:
> 
> 
> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
> wireless_mode managed
> wireless_essid homenet
> wireless_key xx
> name Wireless LAN card
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,

Have you verified that you can connect to your hub if you turn off the
encryption? Also if I remember correctly the Linux wireless drivers only
support certain types of encryption, so you may want to verify that the
encryption type that you have set on your wireless hub is supported.

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Personal Debian mirror

[Preston Boyington]

I have come to the point of needing / wanting my own partial Debian mirror 
(amd64 and i386).  I've been reading about debmirror but when I tried it my 
mirror didn't look quite like what I thought it should.  All the packages were 
dumped into folders under "pool/" and folders it created such as "stable", 
"unstable", and "woody" were essentially empty.  (Now I am trying an rsync 
string to see what the difference will be.)

I was wondering if other people could give me some feedback on how they did 
their mirrors.  What commands did you use and where are there some good howto's 
on doing it as efficiently as possible?

Also, since I don't want to mirror the ISO files I was wondering how difficult 
it would be to use something like jigdo to create the disks from my own mirror?

Thanks,
Preston

Re: alsa and oss configuration

[Jim McCloskey]

* Lubos Vrbka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

  |>  ok, this seems to be clear now. none of alsa-native applications work 
  |>  for me - they give different sorts of errors, similar to one given 
  |>  above. the problem with permissions was my mistake - i added myself to 
  |>  the audio group but didn't logout and login (is there any better way how 
  |>  to "update" the group information)? 

Not that I know of.

  |> after it, it seems to be ok...

Excellent.

  |>  what disturbs me that e.g. alsamixer didn't work for me as root and now 
  |>  it works... however i didn't make any changes with respect to root's 
  |>  account...

This, I don't understand.

  |>  >I assume you're using udev (since you're using the 2.6.11 kernel)? That
  |>  >will normally create the needed nodes in /dev/snd at boot time. But it
  |>  >might be worth checking that they are there.
  |>  i really don't know whether i use udev or not, in this respect i'm a 
  |>  newbie. if it is default for amd64 testing and 2.6.11 kernel, then 
  |>  yes... i checked /dev/snd. the directory is there with many files in it. 
  |>  they are owned by root/audio with 660 permissions.

udev is a program which takes information from the hotplug system and
creates (or destroys) device files in the /dev/ directory as they are
needed (as devices are added to, or removed from, the system). There
is a very clear short paper about it here, written by the principal developer::

http://www.kroah.com/linux/talks/ols_2003_udev_paper/Reprint-Kroah-Hartman-OLS2003.pdf

If you have a directory /etc/udev, then you are using it. Its great
advantage is that you can assign persistent device-names to devices
that are standardly added to and removed from the system (USB pendrives,
digital cameras, USB audio devices and the like). 

  |>  >Maybe you should recompile using modules, then run alsaconf?  That
  |>  >usually does a good job of setting things up as long as there is only
  |>  >one soundcard in the system,
  |>  well, since it works i think i will leave it as it is :)

Most sensible.

Cheers,

Jim


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External USB and dirvish -- getting error

[[KS]]

Hi,

I run nightly backups on my external USB drive using dirvish and it has
been working perfectly since the last few days when I started them.
However, when I went to work on the machine this morning, I heard some
wierd noise and noticed that the external USB was the cause of the
noise. Usually, it spins down after a few mintues of activity but today
it is spinning and making a noise.

I checked the processes and to my surprise dirvish was still running. On
checking the syslog I have repeated listings,

Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code =
0x600
Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O error, dev sda,
sector 276642847
Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: Buffer I/O error on device sda2,
logical block 21473324
Aug  4 06:58:06 localhost kernel: lost page write due to I/O error on sda2

What should be the correct method to stop dirvish now? Do I just kill
the process!

I had upgraded the kernle to 2.6.12 a few days ago. Could it be due to
that? But I have a feeling that it could be something else as the
backups were done when I checked yesterday morning.

/KS


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Re: PCMCIA wireless help needed

[joe]

Hi,

This is what I have in my /etc/network/interfaces file:


iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless_mode managed
wireless_essid homenet
wireless_key xx
name Wireless LAN card


Hope this helps,

Joe




> On Wed, 2005-03-08 at 19:45 +, Terrence Brannon wrote:
>> eth2  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"not_sure_what_to_set"  Nickname:"HERMES
>> I"
>>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point:
>> 44:44:44:44:44:44
>>   Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3
>>   Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>>   Encryption key:off
>>   Power Management:off
>>   Link Quality=0/92  Signal level=134/153  Noise level=134/153
>>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>>   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
>
> It looks like you don't have your wireless card setup to use encryption.
> You will need to have the encryption turned on for your wireless card
> and make sure that it has the correct key to use with your hub.
>
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Re: PCMCIA wireless help needed

[Derek \"The Monkey\" Wueppelmann]

On Wed, 2005-03-08 at 19:45 +, Terrence Brannon wrote:
> eth2  IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"not_sure_what_to_set"  Nickname:"HERMES I"
>   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.457 GHz  Access Point: 44:44:44:44:44:44  
>  
>   Bit Rate:2 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm   Sensitivity:1/3  
>   Retry limit:4   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
>   Encryption key:off
>   Power Management:off
>   Link Quality=0/92  Signal level=134/153  Noise level=134/153
>   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
>   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

It looks like you don't have your wireless card setup to use encryption.
You will need to have the encryption turned on for your wireless card
and make sure that it has the correct key to use with your hub.

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Re: Cups+printer install? (fwd)

[Gayle Lee Fairless]

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Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2005 13:44:19 +0200
From: "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cups+printer install?

On Thursday 04 August 2005 06:35, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote:
> >On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
> >>> Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
> >>> a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?
> >>>
> >>> I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
> >>> the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.

so use links, or w3m, or some other text-browser to access 
http;//localhost:631, there isn't any need to install X-windows just to be 
able to use CUPS's web-interface 

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Re: Cups+printer install? (fwd)

[Gayle Lee Fairless]

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2005 12:03:18 +0100
From: Andrzej Doyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Resent-Date: Thu,  4 Aug 2005 06:18:47 -0500 (CDT)
Resent-From: debian-kde@lists.debian.org

Andrzej Doyle wrote:

>>
>>
>> On 08/03/2005 08:02 pm, Ishwar Rattan wrote:
>>  
>>
 Is there a way to install a printer using cups without
 a browser (no capability for http://localhost:631/)?

 I want to access remote printers alos on a cups server in
 the dept but have no interest in installing X-windows.
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
> Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> replied:
>
>> Are you using KDE? ...
>>
>The Add Printer option in the KDE Control Center...



Given that X windows is a prerequisite for KDE, it's safe to assume 
someone who doesn't want to install the former won't have the latter 
installed.

The CUPS Software Adminstrators Manual has the answer.  Depending on 
what you have installed, it may be available locally at 
/usr/share/cups/doc-root/sam.html and if not, it's always available at 
http://www.cups.org/doc-1.1/sam.html (both in a lynx-friendly format).  
A relevant excerpt:

Adding your first printer from the command line

Run the lpadmin command with the -p option to add a printer to CUPS:

 /usr/sbin/lpadmin -p /printer/ -E -v /device/ -m /ppd/ ENTER


I would highly recommend you read through the entire document if you're 
going to be using/changing CUPS settings.  There's also a Software Users 
Manual available, focussing on the end-users' viewpoint, available at 
the same URIs but as sum.html.

HTH,
Andrzej


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Re: kPDF

[Bill Day]

Thanks for that source, put it in, ran apt-get update and then apt-get sintall 
acroread when it was done I sintaleld the suggested acroread-plugins as well.  
opened up each file continuously of TUX, with out it crashing.

Thank again

On Wednesday August 3 2005 10:36 pm, Sebastian Luque wrote:
> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > There is certainly no Acrobat Reader: it isn't even free enough for
> > non-free.  There are xpdf and kpdf packages.
>
> Well, you can still get the unofficial Debian Acrobat Reader package, from
> e.g. Christian Marillat's repository, if your distro doesn't provide one.
> If you have a line like:
>
> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
>
> in your sources.list, then you'll get his 'acroread' package, so it's not
> so dramatic. As someone said, several distros also provide some version of
> 'acroread', like MEPIS for example.
>
>
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RE: SATA/RAID

[Joost Kraaijeveld]

Hi Boskey,

Boskey schreef:
> Intel SR1350CW2 Server Platform with 7501 chipset motherboard
> Silicon Image Sil3112 SATA raid Controller
> 2 X 80 GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
> ATI rage XL display controller on board
See for more info: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/faq-sata-raid.html

Groeten,

Joost Kraaijeveld
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Re: SATA/RAID

[Clive Menzies]

On (04/08/05 14:53), Boskey wrote:
> Hello everybody,
> 
> Our company is in the process of purchasing intel based servers with the 
> below 
> config to install Debian Sarg 3.1 over it.
> 
> Has any body installed Debian with Raid support successfully on any of such 
> machines?
> 
> The Config is :
> -
> 
> 
> Intel SR1350CW2 Server Platform with 7501 chipset motherboard
> Silicon Image Sil3112 SATA raid Controller 
> 2 X 80 GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
> ATI rage XL display controller on board
> 
A quick way to tell is to get the vendor to run a Live CD such as
Ubuntu, Kanotix etc.

http://www.ubuntulinux.com/
http://kanotix.com/

Regards

Clive


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SATA/RAID

[Boskey]

Hello everybody,

Our company is in the process of purchasing intel based servers with the below 
config to install Debian Sarg 3.1 over it.

Has any body installed Debian with Raid support successfully on any of such 
machines?

The Config is :
-


Intel SR1350CW2 Server Platform with 7501 chipset motherboard
Silicon Image Sil3112 SATA raid Controller 
2 X 80 GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
ATI rage XL display controller on board


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Thanks,

Regards,

Boskey.


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Re: alsa and oss configuration

[Lubos Vrbka]

hi,


/dev/dsp and /dev/mixer are the device-files used by OSS (and therefore
also by the OSS emulation-layer in ALSA). Native ALSA applications like
alsaconf, alsamixer, and aplay use a different set of device files---the
ones in the /dev/snd/ directory.  It sounds like maybe those device
files do not exist or are not being created.
ok, this seems to be clear now. none of alsa-native applications work 
for me - they give different sorts of errors, similar to one given 
above. the problem with permissions was my mistake - i added myself to 
the audio group but didn't logout and login (is there any better way how 
to "update" the group information)? after it, it seems to be ok...


moreover, all other problems seem to be solved now. alsamixer works, 
xmms through alsa works... the only thing that doesn't work (in a sense 
that it doesn't detect anything) is alsaconf... in accord with the text 
you wrote:

> Alsaconf, AFAIK, will only work if you use modules for audio support
> (rather than compiling support in to the kernel). And it's my general
> sense that ALSA is really designed with kernel modules in mind.

what disturbs me that e.g. alsamixer didn't work for me as root and now 
it works... however i didn't make any changes with respect to root's 
account...



I assume you're using udev (since you're using the 2.6.11 kernel)? That
will normally create the needed nodes in /dev/snd at boot time. But it
might be worth checking that they are there.
i really don't know whether i use udev or not, in this respect i'm a 
newbie. if it is default for amd64 testing and 2.6.11 kernel, then 
yes... i checked /dev/snd. the directory is there with many files in it. 
they are owned by root/audio with 660 permissions.



Maybe you should recompile using modules, then run alsaconf?  That
usually does a good job of setting things up as long as there is only
one soundcard in the system,

well, since it works i think i will leave it as it is :)

thank you for your help.

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RE: Debian Sarge - kernel 2.6 problem

[Žáček Kryštof]

I agree this is a serious bug - the debian installer guys should pay close 
attention to that !!! The linux26 is currently not installable on many PC's 
with SATA disks and IDE CDROM's. The problem is probably caused by the broken 
ata-piix/SATA driver being loaded before ide-cd driver and locking the PATA 
channell.

There is workaround to this:

1. boot the sarge CD and type "linux26" at the prompt
2. switch to second virtual console (Alt-F2) as soon as the language selection 
screen appears
3. manually load ide CD drivers by typing:
  # modprobe piix ide-generic ide-cd
4. Return to first console and continue setup
5. Setup the debian system and install newer 2.6 kernel:
  # apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12

Krystof

> -Original Message-
> From: Björn Johansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:41 PM
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Debian Sarge - kernel 2.6 problem
> 
> 
> Hello!
> 
> Yesterday I tried to install Debian Sarge with an offical cd 
> image, but I wasn't able to use the 2.6 kernel since it 
> couldn't detect my dvd drive. The model is from Plextor. Was 
> released in december last year I think?
> 
> Anyway, I decided to use the 2.4.27 kernel instead. Since I 
> need a 2.6 kernel, I have tried the precompiled kernel which 
> comes with Debian, none of them work!! I've tested the 386 
> optimised version and the P4 optimised version. Well, both 
> boots up my system and detect a lot of hardware but it stops 
> after a while and then it complains about that the: 
> /dev/console doesn't exist.
> 
> I think this is a serious BUG i Debian!! Not being able to use the
> 2.6 kernel in the installation and not even being able to 
> upgrade to this kernel at a later time. When I install a 
> precompiled kernel package, the Debian installer should 
> install all the packages which is needed by the system, but 
> apparently that's not the case! :-( I am confused however. I 
> managed to set up a 2.6 kernel with Sarge unstable just a few 
> months ago, so this is strange indeed.
> And maybe I'm the BIG BUG here. 8-(
> Can someone help me with this?
> 
> Currently, the sound is not working. According to Alsaconf it 
> can't find my soundcard: creative audigy zs. So I guess this 
> kernel don't have suitable sound drivers for my system. The 
> 3D graphics is VERY VERY slow, so I think I need to rebuild 
> the FireGL module and edit a textfile somewhere where I need 
> to change a number in line 452. The file is called: make.sh. 
> I don't know if this last thing really makes any sense 
> nowadays, but it did improve my 3D graphics on my Debian 
> Woody system(my old system) by at least 50 times, or 
> something? (I don't know exactly... but it was fast as hell! ;-))
> 
> Greetings
> Björn
> 
> 

Re: Apt-Get Troubels

[Kevin Mark]

On Wed, Aug 03, 2005 at 11:59:59PM -0400, David R. Litwin wrote:
> Well, actually, I'm not sure that it is Apt-get. Here is the message:
> 
> # apt-get -V upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdeaddons: Depends: konq-plugins (>= 4:3.3.2-4) but it is not installed
>   kdeedu: Depends: kdeedu-data (>= 4:3.3.2-3) but it is not installed
> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
> 
> So, I executed this manoeuvre:
> 
> # apt-get -f install
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Correcting dependencies... Done
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>   kdeedu-data konq-plugins
> Suggested packages:
>   kdeaddons-doc-html
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   kdeedu-data konq-plugins
> 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 4 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B/838kB of archives.
> After unpacking 2908kB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
> (Reading database ... 90838 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking kdeedu-data (from .../kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-3_all.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-3_all.deb (--unpack):
>   trying to overwrite
> `/usr/share/icons/crystalsvg/16x16/apps/edu_languages.png', which is
> also in package kdebase-data

Hi David,
error #1: 2 packages have the same file
fix 1: only install 1 or the other
fix 2: assume this is an error and ask the new package to overwrite the
old and suffer the consequences

> Unpacking konq-plugins (from .../konq-plugins_4%3a3.3.2-4_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins_4%3a3.3.2-4_i386.deb (--unpack):
>   trying to overwrite
> `/usr/share/mimelnk/application/x-webarchive.desktop', which is also
> in package kdelibs-data

error #2: see above

> Errors were encountered while processing:
>   /var/cache/apt/archives/kdeedu-data_4%3a3.3.2-3_all.deb
>   /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins_4%3a3.3.2-4_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> My sources.lst:
> 
> # See sources.list(5) for more information
>   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
>   #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free
>   #deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
>   deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
>   
>   deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./
> 
> Yes, I downloaded KDE 3.4.1 from Alioth. But, it worked for me once
> quite nicely. Presently, I do not know what the problem is.
> 
> I thank ye much in advance, for my Apt-Get simply will na work with
> this Problem.

yup, just as I suspected. the alioth packages are experimental. Some
times they work 100% with standard debian (unstable,testing,stable),
sometimes they do not. The alioth packages have 'bugs' as they do not
conform to Debian policy. if 2 package have the same file, they should
'conflict' in someway. The solution to the above problems is to use 'dpkg
--force-overwrite' but since the alioth package are not 100 ok, the
result may or may not work. Odds are they it will be ok. But I would
sugeest emailing the pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org folks and telling them
about this and making a bug report if possible.
Cheers,
Kev

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Re: Simple Services Question

[Robert Vangel]

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Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I know this is rather simple, and I must just be using the wrong search 
> terms, 
> because I know it's been mentioned here.
> 
> I've installed ssh on some systems, but it doesn't start automatically on 
> boot.  I *thought* apt-get set it up to start automatically, but I guess it 
> doesn't.
> 
> So how do I get ssh to start automatically on boot?
> 
> Hal
> 
> 

You might also need to actually enable it (I've noticed sometimes the
question isn't asked `Do you want to run the SSH server?'

You need to

# dpkg-reconfigure ssh

If it is actually that it's enabled but not starting, use

# update-rc.d ssh start 22 2 .

You can check first by looking for /etc/rc2.d/S20ssh.
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