Re: php-mysql connection pb

2005-09-15 Thread belahcene abdelkader

Thank you very much, Oliver
It is Ok
best regards
bela


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> belahcene abdelkader wrote:
> 
> >hi,
> >I am using sarge Official Distro.
> >
> >I have written an application with php-mysql thru
> >apache, it ran correctly ( on previous release
> >before the official sarge without any special
> config)
> >, i move it to sarge, now I have a problem, I don't
> if
> >it is a sarge pb or a mysql or mysql-php ?
> >this is the error
> >
> >Fatal error: Call to undefined function:
> mysql_query()
> >in /var/www/studentNew.php on line 7
> >
> >I have install php4 with php4-mysql, mysql-server
> is
> >also installed .
> >the strange  thing (for me of course) is that , the
> 
> >phpmyadmin runs correctly and acceed to the
> database,
> >so I suppose that the php mysql api is installed
> >correctly.
> >
> >Any idea is welcome
> >thank you very much in advance
> >best regards
> >bela
> >
> Just an idea (unchecked - I run self-compiled php5),
> but try either 
> putting "dl('mysql.so');" at the top of your script,
> or add a similar 
> line to php.ini
>
(http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.extension)
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Oliver
> 
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gview and viewing .gz text files

2005-09-15 Thread John Talbut
Once upon a time I could view various types of file from Nautilus using 
gview.  Now it offers to open files using gview but comes up with an 
error when I try.  And gview does not seem to exist anywhere any more, 
not on my system nor in Debian.  What has happened to it and what has 
replaced it?


What is the best Gnome viewer for .gz compressed text files?


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Re: still no sound juicer (was Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today)

2005-09-15 Thread Marc Wilson
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:13:16PM -0400, H.S. wrote:
> er .. a little question. What packages will be removed if I remove gnome
> and gnome-desktop-environment. I am guessing since there are
> metapackages, nothing else will be removed.

Nothing *should* be removed, although apparently if you use aptitude, its
continuing brokenness will try to remove the rest of Gnome.

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Can't login when using kdm (KDE) -- Part 2

2005-09-15 Thread rs

Debian / Sarge / main

This is continuation of the following thread:
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/0ba07cce9a5d0a6b/066a545b5852bfd4#066a545b5852bfd4

I did some research and it appears that when logging in using KDM the following 
happens:
1) /etc/X11/Xsession runs fine until exit 0
2) ~/.xsession-errors file contains only one line
$ cat .xsession-errors
Xsession: X session started for luser at Fri Sep 16 00:59:09 EDT 2005
3) KDM login process never seems to get to /usr/bin/startkde (the following 
echo never prints anything )
...
# because we still need to do some cleanup.
echo ' 1' 1>&2
trap 'echo GOT SIGHUP' HUP

4) ~/.Xauthority file has the length of 0 bytes after a failed login.

5) $ cat .xinitrc
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/bin/startkde


If I quit KDM by selecting console login from the menu, then login as myself (a 
regular local user) from the regular console, I can start KDE with "startx". 
KDE starts and works fine.

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Re: Minimize diskaccess on a light server

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 23:04 +0200, Arjen Verweij wrote:

I never knew lightsabers needed hard disks... 

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Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today

2005-09-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 9/15/05, Byron Hillis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Therefore if you install g-d-e and it pulls in everything for your GNOME
> desktop environment, then ALL the packages that it does pull in will be
> marked as Automatic. Therefore, if through a dependency problem, i.e.
> sound-juicer, the g-d-e cannot be properly upgraded, then if you
> remove g-d-e, all the GNOME desktop will be removed because
> aptitude thinks that they were only installed to satisfy the dependency.
> Thus you get a mess.

I'm not sure if that's unique to Aptitude.  I use Synaptic most of the
time, and sometimes apt-get directly when Synaptic won't let me force
more than one package at a time to come from unstable.  But I still
can't upgrade to GNOME 2.10 (all of it; I have some parts of it from
2.10) because of sound-juicer.  *sigh*



Re: can not edit XF86Config-4

2005-09-15 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Fri, 2005-09-16 at 00:04 -0400, dale schleyer wrote:
> for some reason i am unable to edit the XF86Config file even though i
> am logged in as "root"

You are not supoused to edit XF86Config manually as it will break the
md5 of it (see top of file) you should use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
or xserver-xfree86.

Anyway, try to chown root /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and try again.

Also, what error are you getting?

.Alejandro



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I got random freeze in my KDE......

2005-09-15 Thread yasker
It is the completely FREEZE. The mouse point can't move. Any key
include num lock response none. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and Ctrl-Alt-Fx
can't work too. I have no choice except press the reset button.
I got AC97(intel 810 or 810E, I can't remember.), and install this
version(Debian Sarge, kernel 2.6.8-2-386, KDE3.3, get alsa by apt.
arts is forbidden) not long ago. And this kind of thing happened
randomly.
 I remember the first time I opened xmms and a chm viewer. Then I
thought it might be alsa's error. So I opened xmms, minutes later, it
was frozen. Then I followed alsa's introduction on intel 8x0,
customize my configuration(/etc/modutils/alsa-base& /etc/asound.conf
and run update-modules).
It was nothing happened yesterday, so I thought that's all right. But
today, it happened again. I don't know what's wrong completely.
The situation of freeze is very serious, and I think debian should be
very strong.(because of reset, I got few times can't boot the
system).

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Re: can not edit XF86Config-4

2005-09-15 Thread Jörg Schütter
Hello dale,

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 00:04:29 -0400 (EDT)
dale schleyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> for some reason i am unable to edit the XF86Config file even
> though i am logged in as "root"

You are using which editor and get which error?

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can not edit XF86Config-4

2005-09-15 Thread dale schleyer
for some reason i am unable to edit the XF86Config file even though i am logged in as "root"
 
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Basic questions about PHP5 on Sarge

2005-09-15 Thread Steve Dondley
I have read about sites offer PHP5 for use with Sarge.

1) Is there a downside or risk associated with these "unofficial"
Debian packages?
2) A more academic question I'm curious to know:  Why doesn't the
Debian team create and release PHP5 package for Sarge?

Thanks.



Re: Gnome Task Launcher for user with root privileges....

2005-09-15 Thread Angelo Bertolli

Redefined Horizons wrote:

I would like to create a task launcher for my GNOME desktop that 
launches a program that requires root access.
 
How would I do this?
 
For example, I'd like to start Synaptic from a task launcher.
 
Thanks for the help.
 
Scott Huey
 
P.S. - I'm running Debian Sarge, with the latest stable version of GNOME.



install sudo, add yourself to the group sudo, and put yourself in 
/etc/sudoers


Then add the command you want to your "sessions" 
(gnome-session-configuration) and prepend "sudo " to the command.



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Re: Minimize diskaccess on a light server

2005-09-15 Thread Angelo Bertolli



Cameron Matheson wrote:


Hi,

Arjen Verweij wrote:


The current machine is an AMD K6-233MHz with 64MB and one 120G disc,
running Debian stable for years (now Sarge). Unfortunately, the cpu has
a bug, where it becomes unstable  under stress (i.e. compiling a kernel)
when using more than 32MB of RAM. Since I have the need to use this
server a bit more extensively than I have, I'm pondering an upgrade.
Because I want to keep the power consumption relatively low, I looked at
VIA Epia solutions. Sadly, VIA doesn't make many boards with SATA, and
the ones that have the 8237 southbridge only have one LAN port. This
means I have to spend the PCI slot on another NIC.
 


Sounds like bad memory as opposed to a cpu bug.  I used to have the 
same problem... just swapped my ram out and it was fine.  have you run 
memtest on it yet? (maybe that would be easier than buying a whole new 
system)




Yes, and check ventilation.  This used to happen on a cluster that used 
AMD processors which happened to be overheating the memory that was 
quite near the proc.




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ffmpeg won't install

2005-09-15 Thread Rodney D. Myers
I'm running etch right now, and trying to get ffmpeg installed, via
aptitude, but I keep getting this error message;

sudo aptitude install ffmpeg
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies, some packages cannot be installed
E: Unable to resolve some dependencies!
Some packages had unmet dependencies.  This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  ffmpeg: Depends: libfaad2-0 (>= 2.0.0-sarge0.2) but 2.0.0-0.7 is
installed.


Any ideas how to correct this?

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Re: why early boot timezone so east?

2005-09-15 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Sep 16, 2005 at 02:43:04AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote:
> Just curious, why in /var/log/boot do we see that the system first is
> in some UTC+16 timezone,
> Thu Sep 15 19:15:51 2005: Setting the System Clock using the Hardware
>Clock as reference...
> Before it gets adjusted to my local Taiwan time, UTC+8:
> Thu Sep 15 11:15:50 2005: System Clock set. Local time: Thu Sep 15
>11:15:50 CST 2005
> My system runs perfectly. I'm just curious why in early boot stages it
> is in UTC+16?  Is this some kind of policy to make sure time only
> jumps backward, and never forward, even if one lives in New Zealand,
> during the boot process?
> 
Check your system clock by going into the BIOS setup: if that has
accidentally got set to the wrong time / you have a flat BIOS backup
battery, you might get the above.

As it boots up, the system is looking at the hardware clock - whatever
it's set to - _then_ it gets set off the network by ntpdate or some such?

If the system is showing the correct time once it's up: use hwclock
--systohc to set it correctly once.

Andy - with a dead BIOS battery / clock in his firewall - a power cut
means that I have to reset all settings before the thing will even boot
up properly.
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Issue with ttf-bitstream-vera

2005-09-15 Thread Julien Sobrier
Hello,
I had to run "dpkg --configure -a". But after 48 hours, it is still at
the beginning:
Setting up ttf-bitstream-vera (1.10-3) ...
Regenerating fonts cache...

How much time is it supposed to take? Is there a way to skip it, or to
speed up the process?


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Re: Office software for the Linux Desktop....

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 16:38 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I'm interested in contibuting to an open source office suite that will
> run on Debian, and prefrably interface nicely with GNOME. I've got
> some experience with OpenOffice, but I note that GNOME comes with its
> own office software like Abiword and Gnumeric.
>  
> Which direction does the Linux development community seem to be
> heading in? I know there have been some issues with OpenOffice's
> requirements for Java, which doesn't always play nice with Debian.
>  
> On the other hand, the office apps native to Gnome don't seem to be as
> full featured as OpenOffice.
>  
> Where would be the best place to concentrate my efforts? Which
> community has the best support for new developers?

The debian-openoffice mailing list.

You'll have to be running Sid, though, and not be afraid of the
Experimental branch, which is where OOo2 beta lives.

Remember that the prime function of the Debian Developer is to
package software for Debian.  Rene Engelhard would *love* help
with that.

If your goal, though, is to help with *code*, then it sounds like
http://qa.openoffice.org/ would be the place to start.

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Re: Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0 rel 4

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 16:31 -0700, junk email wrote:
> By the way, since I can't boot it from the sda1, how
> do I reboot this minimal system as root user?
> 
> --- junk email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am trying to install a Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0
> > rel 4 on my AlphaPC 164LX, 21164 600MHz processor,
> > 256MB RAM, AlphaBIOS 5.70
> > 
> > Here are the steps I did:
[snip]
> > 
> > Any help or sugestion will be appreciated.

http://lists.debian.org/ports.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/

They would probably have more domain-specific knowledge.

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Re: OT: English usage. Was: Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 14:17 -1200, Joel Peter William Pitt wrote:
> Bah, semicolons are for ending C expressions, not english ;P

They are, of course, also used for winking...

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 15:29 -0700, Laura Melton wrote:
> On 09/15/2005 01:36 PM, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> > Vikki Roemer wrote:
> 
> [snip AOL user's plea for help]
> 
[snip]
> 
> I tried to email her privately but was bounced by the AOL mail
> server because that user "wasn't accepting mail" from my email
> address.  I checked the headers and everything, and it looks legit
> to me.

It probably failed the Sender Permitted From test.

From the email header in your email, it looks like your ISP is
blarg.net.  But your domain is niceperson.org, so AOL flags it
as spam.

[snip]
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Re: KDE 3.4.2 and British English

2005-09-15 Thread David R. Litwin
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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 16:23 -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:59:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Where do these lusers keep coming from?  *shakes head*

NC, I think.

Hey, aren't *you* from NC ;)

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 20:21 -0400, Vikki Roemer wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:07:32PM -0400, Robert Wolfe wrote:
> > 
[snip]
> comment about Windows users, it was a comment about, basically, "why is this
> person emailing *us* for help, and not AOL tech support?".

Because, as scary as it sounds, some people really are soo
clueless that they think that debian-user@lists.debian.org is AOL
tech support.

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:21:46 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vikki Roemer) wrote:

> "why is this
> person emailing *us* for help, and not AOL tech support?".

It's plain that you've not had occasion to call AOL tech suport.

;-]

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Re: .xsession problem

2005-09-15 Thread Bill Marcum
> On 9/10/05, Jim Seymour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi All,
> > 
> > Running Debian Etch on an AMD Athalon box with all the current updates.
> > I have tried to no avail to get a .xsession file to launch pland (Plan
> > Daemon) when I log into my box. The file is executable and
> > allow-user-xsession is set in /etc/X11/Xsession.options. The contents of
> > the .xsession are:
> > 
> > exec pland (I have tried it with and without exec)
> > 
> > Any ideas where I have gone wrong? I thought I followed the Debian
> > Reference.
> > 
> > TIA,
> > 
> > Jim Seymour

If you use gnome, try this in your .xsession:
pland &
exec gnome-session

If you use kde, change "exec gnome-session" to "exec startkde".
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Re: Bare X server

2005-09-15 Thread Bill Marcum
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 08:27:22PM -0700, grexk wrote:
> Greetings,
>  What are the things can I make in order to run a Bare
> X server and be able to exec a program. Is it in the
> .xinitrc or Xsession.
> 
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Re: Fantastico De Luxe Auto Installer

2005-09-15 Thread Bill Marcum
On Wed, Sep 14, 2005 at 03:16:25PM +0700, F.X. Harry Wardhana wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> I'm very interest to use Fantastico De Luxe Auto Installer script.
> Where can I buy it? I need it badly. I've search it anywhere with
> google and i didn't get this info. Help...
> 
> Thanks a lot,

If you didn't find it with google, where did you hear of it, and why do 
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minicom display problems

2005-09-15 Thread Marty

Is there any way to get minicom to properly display the color graphics
of an ncurses app like iptraf?  I am using the multi GNOME terminal as my
X terminal, but xterm seems to have the same problems.

So far I've tried:
-setting the minicom terminal type to ANSI
-setting the remote shell TERM type to xterm (it starts up as VT100)
-turning the minicom color on using the "-c on" option

Another, possibly unrelated issue, is that iptraf and other programs
like top or man which output to the entire terminal screen, only use
a small portion of the available X terminal screen area (about 23
lines of text) regardless of how large I make the X terminal window.
Man even puts pages of text on different areas of the X terminal and
is nearly useless.  My current workaround is to use a tiny X terminal
window with these programs, but ncurses graphics is still a problem.

In contrast, programs like ls which produce individual lines of output,
seem to adjust and use available X terminal space properly.  I suspect
that a solution to either problem will solve both.  I am not averse to
RTFMing but am not sure which FM to read at this point.  Thanks for any
help.


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Re: OT: English usage. Was: Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Joel Peter William Pitt
Bah, semicolons are for ending C expressions, not english ;P

JoelOn 9/15/05, Andy Streich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday 15 September 2005 05:55 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:> My tenth grade english teacher taught it like this:>> "If you can't replace the semicolon with a period and make two coherent
> and complete sentences, then it doesn't belong.">> Best grammar advice I ever received.>It can also be used to separate elements in a list which themselves containcommas yet are not complete sentences.
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Re: OT: English usage. Was: Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Andy Streich
On Thursday 15 September 2005 05:55 pm, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> My tenth grade english teacher taught it like this:
> 
> "If you can't replace the semicolon with a period and make two coherent
> and complete sentences, then it doesn't belong."
> 
> Best grammar advice I ever received.
> 

It can also be used to separate elements in a list which themselves contain 
commas yet are not complete sentences.

Andy


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Re: weirdest network problems of my ilfe

2005-09-15 Thread Erik Steffl

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Hi,

Ok after installing the new router that came w/ my dsl i'm having the most
mind-boggling internet problems of my life.  Here's some background on my
network:


   +Linux box
   |Linux laptop (wireless)
Wireless/Wired Router/Modem+Windows box #1
   |Windows laptop
   +Windows laptop (wireless)

Ok, so first off... all of my family's windows boxes are working fine. 
Everything is just normal.  The linux boxen however, have problems. 
Internet generally works (although some sites (slashdot, gmail, etc) won't

load in firefox (for some reason they will in links).  I can't connect to
yahoo/jabber/msn/etc w/ gaim, but i can w/ centericq.  I've been trying to
figure out all this for forever and so i tried to tcptraceroute my way to
messenger.hotmail.com as an experiment (on port 1863 or whatever it was). 
It took a while, but the route was traced.  The funny thing is that if i
start tracing the route, and then start up gaim, i connect just fine. 
same goes for the sites that didn't load up in my browser... I can't

figure out why everything works on the windows, but not on my linux boxen.
 the network stuff is all assigned by the router (dhcp).  What should i
do?


  you might want to try few liveCD distros to see if some of them works 
differently, if some of them works better see what settings it uses


  you can use some network monitoring tool to see what's being sent 
(e.g. tcpdump) so that you can see what's going on, it might give you 
soem ideas...


  use ping with different packet sizes to different destinations (your 
ISP gateway etc.), see response times, packet loss etc. and compare to 
windows boxes (the ones that work OK).


erik


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Digital Voice Recorders/iRiver T30

2005-09-15 Thread Andrew Perrin
A report and a request for advice:

After doing some research, I decided to buy an iRiver T30 for use as a
small digital voice recorder for meetings, interviews, and so on. It's a
very cool little device and the sound quality is also amazing.

However, as far as I can tell, it doesn't work at all under linux. It
shows up in /proc/bus/usb/devices:

T:  Bus=01 Lev=02 Prnt=03 Port=00 Cnt=01 Dev#= 12 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.10 Cls=00(>ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=4102 ProdID=1119 Rev= 1.00
S:  Manufacturer=iriver Limited
S:  Product=iriver T30
S:  SerialNumber=


but doesn't load any usb drivers. The website (and the brain-dead user
support person) says it works only under Windows XP. Connecting it to a
Windows box shows it as an "MTP Media Player", suggesting that it is not
in fact in UMS mode where it would work as mass storage.

I am now planning on just returning the things and getting a different
one, unless someone can provide a good solution.

That returns me, though, to the search for a suitable voice recorder that
is useable with linux. Specifically, my ideal model would:
- Have long (8+ hours) battery life;
- Record in a linux-friendly format (not, e.g., Olympus's DSS format);
- Have removeable flash media, like an SD or xD card; and
- Record at least 8 hours or so in mono, long-play mode.

Any suggestions?

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Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing

2005-09-15 Thread Jiann-Ming Su
On 9/9/05, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
> etch/security-updates main contrib non-free

How is this different from "deb http://security.debian.org/
testing/updates main"?
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Re: weirdest network problems of my ilfe

2005-09-15 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 18:36 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok after installing the new router that came w/ my dsl i'm having the most
> mind-boggling internet problems of my life.  Here's some background on my
> network:
Cameron,

First connect your linux box directly to the internet if doable and see
if the problem is there. If it is, yell ar your ISP. Else it might be a
problem with the adsl boxen itself.

In other words Linux works anyway, blame and contact your ISP cause
everything works but some special ports and addresses that you are
trying to reach.

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Re: weirdest network problems of my ilfe

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:36:17PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Ok after installing the new router that came w/ my dsl i'm having the most
> mind-boggling internet problems of my life.  Here's some background on my
> network:
> 
> 
>+Linux box
>|Linux laptop (wireless)
> Wireless/Wired Router/Modem+Windows box #1
>|Windows laptop
>+Windows laptop (wireless)
> 
> Ok, so first off... all of my family's windows boxes are working fine. 
> Everything is just normal.  The linux boxen however, have problems. 
> Internet generally works (although some sites (slashdot, gmail, etc) won't
> load in firefox (for some reason they will in links).  I can't connect to
> yahoo/jabber/msn/etc w/ gaim, but i can w/ centericq.  I've been trying to
> figure out all this for forever and so i tried to tcptraceroute my way to
> messenger.hotmail.com as an experiment (on port 1863 or whatever it was). 
> It took a while, but the route was traced.  The funny thing is that if i
> start tracing the route, and then start up gaim, i connect just fine. 
> same goes for the sites that didn't load up in my browser... I can't
> figure out why everything works on the windows, but not on my linux boxen.
>  the network stuff is all assigned by the router (dhcp).  What should i
> do?
> 
Try loweeing the MTU on your eth device(s) to 1492.

-Roberto

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Re: Office software for the Linux Desktop....

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:38:57PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I'm interested in contibuting to an open source office suite that will run 
> on Debian, and prefrably interface nicely with GNOME. I've got some 
> experience with OpenOffice, but I note that GNOME comes with its own office 
> software like Abiword and Gnumeric.
>  Which direction does the Linux development community seem to be heading in? 
> I know there have been some issues with OpenOffice's requirements for Java, 
> which doesn't always play nice with Debian.
>  On the other hand, the office apps native to Gnome don't seem to be as full 
> featured as OpenOffice.
>  Where would be the best place to concentrate my efforts? Which community 
> has the best support for new developers?
>  Thanks,
>  Scott Huey

AIUI, the OpenOffice "community" consists mostly of paid Sun employees.
It is difficult to break in for anything except probably localization
tasks and maybe documentation.  Personally, I would find a smaller
project and start there.  Or find one you like and is maybe lacking in
certain features and start on that.  I'm not trying to steer you away
from contributing to OpenOffice, just trying to give you an additional
perspective.

-Roberto

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weirdest network problems of my ilfe

2005-09-15 Thread cameron . matheson
Hi,

Ok after installing the new router that came w/ my dsl i'm having the most
mind-boggling internet problems of my life.  Here's some background on my
network:


   +Linux box
   |Linux laptop (wireless)
Wireless/Wired Router/Modem+Windows box #1
   |Windows laptop
   +Windows laptop (wireless)

Ok, so first off... all of my family's windows boxes are working fine. 
Everything is just normal.  The linux boxen however, have problems. 
Internet generally works (although some sites (slashdot, gmail, etc) won't
load in firefox (for some reason they will in links).  I can't connect to
yahoo/jabber/msn/etc w/ gaim, but i can w/ centericq.  I've been trying to
figure out all this for forever and so i tried to tcptraceroute my way to
messenger.hotmail.com as an experiment (on port 1863 or whatever it was). 
It took a while, but the route was traced.  The funny thing is that if i
start tracing the route, and then start up gaim, i connect just fine. 
same goes for the sites that didn't load up in my browser... I can't
figure out why everything works on the windows, but not on my linux boxen.
 the network stuff is all assigned by the router (dhcp).  What should i
do?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson


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Re: Gnome Task Launcher for user with root privileges....

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 04:34:18PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote:
> I would like to create a task launcher for my GNOME desktop that launches a 
> program that requires root access.
>  How would I do this?
>  For example, I'd like to start Synaptic from a task launcher.
>  Thanks for the help.
>  Scott Huey
>  P.S. - I'm running Debian Sarge, with the latest stable version of GNOME.

IIRC, synaptic will ask for the root password automatically.  However,
for other apps in general, look at something like xsu, gksu or
gnome-sudo.  Basically, you run one of those and pass the command you
want to run with root privilege as a parameter and then it will prompt
you for the password and run it.

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Re: OT: English usage. Was: Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:27:57PM -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:03:46 -0600
> Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > It doesn't
> > seem to me to be a violation of Debian policy, which I've just read
> > for the first time; if it is a violation, I apologize.
> 
> Thank you.  It's so nice to see correctly used semicolons.
> 

My tenth grade english teacher taught it like this:

"If you can't replace the semicolon with a period and make two coherent
and complete sentences, then it doesn't belong."

Best grammar advice I ever received.

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security question

2005-09-15 Thread Paolo Pantaleo
i have the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/l/socksify$ lsof /etc/samba/
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() reiserfs file system /dev/.static/dev
  Output information may be incomplete.
COMMAND  PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE   NODE NAME
kmouth  7211 paolo  129r   DIR3,5  136 106194 /etc/samba/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/l/socksify$ lsof /etc/security/
lsof: WARNING: can't stat() reiserfs file system /dev/.static/dev
  Output information may be incomplete.
COMMAND  PID  USER   FD   TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME
kmouth  7211 paolo  130r   DIR3,5  208 3161 /etc/security/
bash8875 paolo  cwdDIR3,5  208 3161 /etc/security/

It seems to me a bit strange, expecialy why to read samba directory?
Should i worry about?

PAolo
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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:07:32PM -0400, Robert Wolfe wrote:
> 
>  Then again, you should realize, that some of us Debian users DO use Windows 
> machines as well. I have a Sun Ultra 5 running a customized version of 
> Debian/Etch and a server running Windows 2000 Pro and one running Windows NT 
> 4.0 Enterprise Server. All running happily with one another.

Yeah, I use Win2k (it's my parents' computer, but I use it for school) and
Debian (on my server) on a pretty much daily basis.  My reply wasn't a
comment about Windows users, it was a comment about, basically, "why is this
person emailing *us* for help, and not AOL tech support?".

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installing kwin-baghira

2005-09-15 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
I apt-getted kwin-baghira. But even after installing, it does not show 
up in it does not show up in kcontrol->Appearance&Themes->Theme Manger. 
Can someone else reproduce this? How can I activate the kwin-bhagira theme?


thanks
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Re: Re: OpenOffice.org calc -- entered data "disappears"

2005-09-15 Thread Kevin Stenson


Happened to come across this thread while trying to figure out the exact 
same problem.  For me it turned out that the Automatic text color 
appears to be picked up from a KDE color.  If you go to the KDE Control 
Center, select Appearances & Themes, select Colors, and under Widget 
Color select Window Text, this is the color that OpenOffice uses in some 
places (Spreadsheet and Presentation).  I had this set to white and the 
Window Background set to a dark color.  However, it does not seem to use 
the Window Background so one ends up with white text on white background.


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OT: English usage. Was: Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:03:46 -0600
Jules Dubois <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It doesn't
> seem to me to be a violation of Debian policy, which I've just read
> for the first time; if it is a violation, I apologize.

Thank you.  It's so nice to see correctly used semicolons.

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Office software for the Linux Desktop....

2005-09-15 Thread Redefined Horizons
I'm interested in contibuting to an open source office suite that will run on Debian, and prefrably interface nicely with GNOME. I've got some experience with OpenOffice, but I note that GNOME comes with its own office software like Abiword and Gnumeric.

 
Which direction does the Linux development community seem to be heading in? I know there have been some issues with OpenOffice's requirements for Java, which doesn't always play nice with Debian.
 
On the other hand, the office apps native to Gnome don't seem to be as full featured as OpenOffice.
 
Where would be the best place to concentrate my efforts? Which community has the best support for new developers?
 
Thanks,
 
Scott Huey


Gnome Task Launcher for user with root privileges....

2005-09-15 Thread Redefined Horizons
I would like to create a task launcher for my GNOME desktop that launches a program that requires root access.
 
How would I do this?
 
For example, I'd like to start Synaptic from a task launcher.
 
Thanks for the help.
 
Scott Huey
 
P.S. - I'm running Debian Sarge, with the latest stable version of GNOME.


Re: Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0 rel 4

2005-09-15 Thread junk email
By the way, since I can't boot it from the sda1, how
do I reboot this minimal system as root user?

--- junk email <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to install a Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0
> rel 4 on my AlphaPC 164LX, 21164 600MHz processor,
> 256MB RAM, AlphaBIOS 5.70
> 
> Here are the steps I did:
> rawrite milo_164lx.bin to floppy
> rawrite rescue.bin to floppy
> rawrite root.bin to floppy
> boot milo from alphabios
> boot linux.gz from milo with ramdisk
> configure keyboard
> partition SCSI hard disk into sda1 dos 16-bit fat
> <32m, sda5 / linux, sda6 swap linux swap
> initialize and mount partition sda6 as swap
> initialize and mount partition sda5 as /
> install kernel and driver modules from CD
> configure network
> install base system from CD
> 
> At the completion of the install base system, I
> tried
> to make the system bootable to the dos partition and
> it does not work, then I tried to mount the sda1 as
> msdos and copy milo and linload.exe and does not
> work
> either.
> 
> Need help to mount this sda1 as dos so I can copy
> the
> boot files onto it.
> 
> Need help to install all other packages on Debian
> CDs.
> 
> Any help or sugestion will be appreciated.
> 
> 
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Re: SBC DIALUP

2005-09-15 Thread Debian User Leonard Chatagnier

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:


On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:32:33AM -0500, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
 

I've just signed up for SBC Dialup and was able to get on line without any more 
problems
than modifying the user ID and password entries in Pap- and Chap-secrets.  
However, I'm
unable to activate my email account, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I tried the URI, 
tinyurl.com/3k9ds,
that SBC said to use to activate the account but, was only able to fill in 
about 4 pages of info
forms before the next button quit working.  On another attempt to activate the 
account, SBC said
to go to www.sbc.yahoo.com/download and download the SBC dialup startup 
disc(windows and
mac only) to activate the account and did so hoping to read the disc info to 
discover a way to activate the
account.  I got a message saying that my browzer didn't support 
downloading(first time ever even
for a windows program).  SBC is no help, not supporting Linux.  I'm hoping 
someone out there is using
SBC dialup and knows the solution to my problem.  Any help appreciated.  Please 
copy my email address

as I'm not subscribed.  Thanks for your help,

   


Annoying, huh?  I had to use IE to be able to signup with SBC.  There
was no around it.  You may want to consider Opera, whcih at least runs
on Debian, as it is much more gracious about handling the garbage that
IE will accept.

-Roberto

 


Gracias Roberto,

Annoying, Yes, but that's what we get for being smarter.  Thanks, you
provided a workaround solutiom
for me.  And thanks for the Opera tip.  I'll try it.  First time ever,
however, that I couldn't download any
OS file with Mozilla.

Thanks Again,

Leonard


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Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today

2005-09-15 Thread Byron Hillis
On 14/09/05, Katipo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I don't know if he's trolling.
> He comes across as someone who uses one app. and therefore nothing else
> is any good.
> 
> I've used aptitude for a couple of years now, on dial-up, go to bed on
> the upgrade, wake up in the morning, and everything's done.
> Solid as a rock, running an unstable, part-gnome install, nothing broken.
> 
> Must be something wrong with me.
> 

That's what it seems like. Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but
I think the problem here comes from the way that aptitude marks things 
as installed automatically (with the A symbol in interactive mode) when 
something is pulled in as a dependency. When you remove the original 
program, all it's dependencies that were automatically installed are 
removed as well. It's a way of minimising the cruft left on a system.

Therefore if you install g-d-e and it pulls in everything for your GNOME 
desktop environment, then ALL the packages that it does pull in will be 
marked as Automatic. Therefore, if through a dependency problem, i.e. 
sound-juicer, the g-d-e cannot be properly upgraded, then if you 
remove g-d-e, all the GNOME desktop will be removed because 
aptitude thinks that they were only installed to satisfy the dependency. 
Thus you get a mess.

So aptitude does work, it's just about making it work for you. Apt-get 
doesn't have this problem because if you install a package that pulls 
in dependencies, then remove the package, it doesn't remove the 
dependencies as well. So this is safer, but not ideal in terms of system
management. 

Therefore, it would seem that the only option (and it makes sense if
you think about it) is to mark those packages that you use as MANUALLY
installed (use
'm' in interactive mode). If you do that, then you have nothing to
worry about. Upgrades will work properly and all will be well. Sure,
its a little bit more effort
from the start, but eventually it is more practical, as you don't end up with
dependencies that you don't need.

The biggest problem with aptitude is not the software, but the way that it 
is understood to work. It is not just a front-end to apt-get. It does
more stuff,
and requires a slightly different mind-set. But once that is understood (which
I hope I've gone some way in helping), aptitude does make sense, and will
do what you want it to.

Byron

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Robert Wolfe

On 9/15/05, Vikki Roemer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 03:29:31PM -0700, Laura Melton wrote:>> Anyway, I don't know where the AOL users come from, either.  I would
> guess that they google for "change password" or something, find an> archived post on debian-user, and send off an email without at all> understanding what they're doing.  They just have no clue.
That was what I was figuring, but wasn't sure.
 
Then again, you should realize, that some of us Debian users DO use Windows machines as well.  I have a Sun Ultra 5 running a customized version of Debian/Etch and a server running Windows 2000 Pro and one running Windows NT 
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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 03:29:31PM -0700, Laura Melton wrote:
>
> Anyway, I don't know where the AOL users come from, either.  I would
> guess that they google for "change password" or something, find an
> archived post on debian-user, and send off an email without at all
> understanding what they're doing.  They just have no clue.

That was what I was figuring, but wasn't sure.

> We have all been geeks for long enough that we don't understand what
> it is like to be completely ignorant and afraid of computers.  These
> people have no idea what Debian is, so they don't understand where
> their question is going.  Have a little pity.

Ah.  Point taken.  Sorry for adding to the noise, btw.

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:36:16PM -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> 
> I think it's spam for mailing lists. So, if you reply to the idiot + the
> ML, maybe the shit spammer software will know that the emails exist and you
> know the rest.

That's why I used 'list reply' and only replied here, wondering if anyone
knew why the devil anyone who uses AOL (and presumably Window$) would email
us.

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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Laura Melton
On 09/15/2005 01:36 PM, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> Vikki Roemer wrote:

[snip AOL user's plea for help]

> >Where do these lusers keep coming from?  *shakes head*
> 
> Vikki,
> 
>   I think it's spam for mailing lists. So, if you reply to the idiot + the
> ML, maybe the shit spammer software will know that the emails exist and you
> know the rest.

I tried to email her privately but was bounced by the AOL mail
server because that user "wasn't accepting mail" from my email
address.  I checked the headers and everything, and it looks legit
to me.

Anyway, I don't know where the AOL users come from, either.  I would
guess that they google for "change password" or something, find an
archived post on debian-user, and send off an email without at all
understanding what they're doing.  They just have no clue.

We have all been geeks for long enough that we don't understand what
it is like to be completely ignorant and afraid of computers.  These
people have no idea what Debian is, so they don't understand where
their question is going.  Have a little pity.

Laura Melton


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Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread charlie
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:58:12 -0400
Roberto used the keyboard to craft this:

  >|On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:29:41PM -0600, Jules Dubois wrote:
  >|> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
  >|> 
  >|> Media contact: Patricia Witkin
  >|> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >|> 415.863.9900 x303
  >|> 
  >|> NEW BOOK EXPLAINS DEBIAN STRUCTURE AND PHILOSOPHY
  >|> 
  >|> Insights into Debian project and operating system shed light on
its
  >|> growing appeal 
  >|> 
  >|
  >|While appreciate the hard work that Martin has done on his book, and
the
  >|general interest about it on this list, I think that advertising it
like
  >|this goes against the Debian mailing list advertising policy [0].  I
  >|don't mean to imply that Martin had anything to with this, simply
that
  >|there are lists for announcement of commercial products related to
  >|Debian.
  >|
  >|-Roberto
  >|
  >|[0] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads
  >|-- 
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  >|http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto
  >|
 I think it's also against list policy to send spam on a Debian list?

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Re: Need advice on Debian Hotspot

2005-09-15 Thread Antonio Rafael C. Paiva
Just about the initial redirection of the users, it seems that the 
best (cause its free!) the that NoCat thing. I just looked into their 
webpage and its seams it takes care exactly of that redirection you 
mention. Apparently, you can even require some form of authentication. 
Other than that all I know is closed-box solutions at prices $7,000+.


I worked on a project where something like what you say was intended 
about 3 years ago, if only there was this NoCat thing around


Antonio

Alejandro Bonilla wrote:

Greetings,

I want to set up a local wifi hotspot. I've got a decent
cable internet
connection to feed it, a small switch to connect everything,
the access
points, cabling, and I've just purchased an inexpensive box
to use as the
server for the whole project. Naturally, I want to use Debian for the
server OS, because of apt's ease of management.



This is what I do.

eth0 is WAN and eth1 is LAN.
This works like a charm.
Just put it in /etc/init.d/whatever
cd /etc/init.d/
update-rc.d whatever defaults

TADAA!!

#!/bin/sh
iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle -F
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! eth0 -j ACCEPT
iptables -P INPUT DROP

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8001 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8001 -j ACCEPT



then set the DHCP to have knowledge of the both networks.
dhcpd
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.30;
  option broadcast-address 192.168.0.30;
  option domain-name "dns.domain.nameHere";
  option domain-name-servers your.dns.isp.address;
  option routers 192.168.0.1;
}

# The other subnet that shares this physical network (eth0?)
 subnet your.network.here.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  option broadcast-address your.broad.add.here;
  option routers your.defaul.gateway.here;
}


Set the stuff under /etc/networking/interfaces

dammed, I spoiled the fun of this.

(I DUNNO HOW TO MAKE THE USERS TO GO INTO A HTTP BEFORE USING ANYTHIGN ELSE
BEFORE. HOW IS THAT?)

.Alejandro




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Re: announcing the beginning of security support for testing

2005-09-15 Thread Bill Wohler
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
>
> deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
> etch-proposed-updates/security-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
> etch-proposed-updates/security-updates main contrib non-free

Joey,

These entries are quite different from your announcement. Can you
comment on them?

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why early boot timezone so east?

2005-09-15 Thread Dan Jacobson
Just curious, why in /var/log/boot do we see that the system first is
in some UTC+16 timezone,
Thu Sep 15 19:15:51 2005: Setting the System Clock using the Hardware
   Clock as reference...
Before it gets adjusted to my local Taiwan time, UTC+8:
Thu Sep 15 11:15:50 2005: System Clock set. Local time: Thu Sep 15
   11:15:50 CST 2005
My system runs perfectly. I'm just curious why in early boot stages it
is in UTC+16?  Is this some kind of policy to make sure time only
jumps backward, and never forward, even if one lives in New Zealand,
during the boot process?


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Re: Minimize diskaccess on a light server

2005-09-15 Thread Cameron Matheson

Hi,

Arjen Verweij wrote:


The current machine is an AMD K6-233MHz with 64MB and one 120G disc,
running Debian stable for years (now Sarge). Unfortunately, the cpu has
a bug, where it becomes unstable  under stress (i.e. compiling a kernel)
when using more than 32MB of RAM. Since I have the need to use this
server a bit more extensively than I have, I'm pondering an upgrade.
Because I want to keep the power consumption relatively low, I looked at
VIA Epia solutions. Sadly, VIA doesn't make many boards with SATA, and
the ones that have the 8237 southbridge only have one LAN port. This
means I have to spend the PCI slot on another NIC.
 



Sounds like bad memory as opposed to a cpu bug.  I used to have the same 
problem... just swapped my ram out and it was fine.  have you run 
memtest on it yet? (maybe that would be easier than buying a whole new 
system)


Cameron Matheson


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Blank /etc/resolv.conf at boot?

2005-09-15 Thread Adam
Anyone know if any of these packages would cause a blank /etc/resolv.conf at boot? Also, adams-server.no-ip.org which is an external IP, once set to a local IP through /etc/hosts, still though after removing 
192.168.1.101, it still says 192.168.1.101 and /etc/resolv.conf is blank after reboot.
 
Here is my dpkg --get-selections:
 
I removed anything and everything that was about DNS that I knew wasn't needed by default by the system.
 
 
adduser  installamavisd-new installanalog  installapache2-common installapache2-doc installapache2-mpm-preforkinstallapache2-utils installapt  installapt-file deinstall
apt-spy  deinstallapt-utils deinstallapt-zip  deinstallaptitude deinstallarj  installat  installautoconf installautomake installautotools-dev install
base-config installbase-files installbase-passwd installbash  installbc  installbeep  deinstallbibindex installbibtool  installbin86  installbind9  deinstall
binutils installbison  installbonobo  installbootp  deinstallbsdmainutils installbsdutils installbuffer  installbzip2  installcdrecord installclamav  install
clamav-base installclamav-daemon installclamav-docs installclamav-freshclaminstallconsole-common installconsole-data installconsole-tools installcoreutils install
courier-authdaemoninstallcourier-authmysqlinstallcourier-base installcourier-imap installcourier-imap-sslinstallcourier-maildropinstallcourier-pop installcourier-pop-ssl install
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Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0 rel 4

2005-09-15 Thread junk email
I am trying to install a Debian Linux for Alpha v3.0
rel 4 on my AlphaPC 164LX, 21164 600MHz processor,
256MB RAM, AlphaBIOS 5.70

Here are the steps I did:
rawrite milo_164lx.bin to floppy
rawrite rescue.bin to floppy
rawrite root.bin to floppy
boot milo from alphabios
boot linux.gz from milo with ramdisk
configure keyboard
partition SCSI hard disk into sda1 dos 16-bit fat
<32m, sda5 / linux, sda6 swap linux swap
initialize and mount partition sda6 as swap
initialize and mount partition sda5 as /
install kernel and driver modules from CD
configure network
install base system from CD

At the completion of the install base system, I tried
to make the system bootable to the dos partition and
it does not work, then I tried to mount the sda1 as
msdos and copy milo and linload.exe and does not work
either.

Need help to mount this sda1 as dos so I can copy the
boot files onto it.

Need help to install all other packages on Debian CDs.

Any help or sugestion will be appreciated.




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Re: bootsplash

2005-09-15 Thread Jason Edson
On 9/15/05, mess-mate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Nicolas Cadou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:| Le 15 Septembre 2005 08:00, mess-mate a écrit:| > Thanks for that explanation.| > I've chosen several different 16bit modes ( seems the bootsplash
| > works only on 16bit) without success.| > Or the patch don't support s3 cards ?|| Sorry, but I do not know any other solution to this problem of yours, except| of course, to get another video card :-)
|| Nicolas|Ok, thanks for your time.I'll look further or simply delete/uninstall it.mess-mate--Among the lucky, you are the chosen one.On my setup I use  vga=794 for 1280x1024  and vga=791 for 1024x768 on another.  I don't know if this helps at all but it's just my two cents. 



Minimize diskaccess on a light server

2005-09-15 Thread Arjen Verweij
Hi,

I'm looking for ways to cut power consumption on a homeserver that
serves files and email through IMAP. Maybe in a distant future it will
be a small webserver as well, but not right now. The most important
tasks it fulfills now are:

- provide ssh access
- retrieve email from POP3 accounts with fetchmail
- provide email though courier-imap
- serve files over samba

The current machine is an AMD K6-233MHz with 64MB and one 120G disc,
running Debian stable for years (now Sarge). Unfortunately, the cpu has
a bug, where it becomes unstable  under stress (i.e. compiling a kernel)
when using more than 32MB of RAM. Since I have the need to use this
server a bit more extensively than I have, I'm pondering an upgrade.
Because I want to keep the power consumption relatively low, I looked at
VIA Epia solutions. Sadly, VIA doesn't make many boards with SATA, and
the ones that have the 8237 southbridge only have one LAN port. This
means I have to spend the PCI slot on another NIC.

So I scratched that idea, and I am now looking at the following:

Asus P4C800 Deluxe
Asus CT-479 (479->478 socket convertor)
Intel Pentium M 740 (Dothan 2MB 1.7Ghz(?))
256MB PC2100
S3 Virge 64 something PCI videocard (really, really old card)
USB stick
A few HDDs, probably 4 to start with.

The motherboard, cpu and memory can probably compete with my current
setup in power consumption. However, I would like the drives to spin
down as much as possible.

Naturally, a lot of system logging is going on. I am pondering if it
would be a viable idea to move /var/log to a mounted USB stick. This
would cut down on disc access drastically, but there's still stuff like
fetchmail to keep the disc busy, and cron jobs.

Is there a systematic way to track disc access and/or keep this to a
minimum?

Regards,

Arjen Verweij


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Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Jules Dubois
On Thursday 15 September 2005 13:58, Roberto C. Sanchez
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:29:41PM -0600, Jules Dubois wrote:
>> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>> 
>> Media contact: Patricia Witkin
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 415.863.9900 x303
>> 
>> NEW BOOK EXPLAINS DEBIAN STRUCTURE AND PHILOSOPHY
>> 
>> Insights into Debian project and operating system shed light on its
>> growing appeal
> 
> While appreciate the hard work that Martin has done on his book, and the
> general interest about it on this list, I think that advertising it like
> this goes against the Debian mailing list advertising policy [0].

It was clearly an "advertisement" by the dictionary definition.  OTOH, it's
not spam as I posted exactly one copy here (and nowhere else).  It doesn't
seem to me to be a violation of Debian policy, which I've just read for the
first time; if it is a violation, I apologize.

> I don't mean to imply that Martin had anything to with this, simply that
> there are lists for announcement of commercial products related to
> Debian.

I was the only one involved.  I don't know Mr Krafft and I'm not in any way
involved with the book, its publisher(s), distributor(s), etc.  I saw the
announcement, as I indicated, on comp.os.linux.announce and copied it
verbatim to this mailing list.


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Re: Re: clamav update to 0.86.1 using volatile.debian.net

2005-09-15 Thread Volker Henkel

it should work with

aptitude -t volatile upgrade


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AOL'ers on debian-user [was Re: Please help asap]

2005-09-15 Thread Maurits van Rees
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:36:16PM -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote:
> I think it's spam for mailing lists. So, if you reply to the idiot + the
> ML, maybe the shit spammer software will know that the emails exist and you
> know the rest.

In a momentary lapse of sanity---all is fine now, bleep, bleep!---I
actually answered this question to the email address mentioned.  I
don't even think I was very rude.  But the aol mail server answered:

Your mail to the following recipients could not be delivered because
they are not accepting mail from ...

and then my email address.  So it doesn't look like bait from
spammers.  I used a plussed address for some small form of protection;
I wonder if that played a part in not being accepted.  Either that or
this poor person's email box is already filled to the top with answers
from helpful Debian users. :-)


BTW, since recently I have this in my .procmailrc, which I am quite
happy with for now:

:0
* ^FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
|${DEFAULT}.Suspect

People who actually get reasonable email from friends with an aol
address may want to add an extra line to check if the mail is sent to
the debian-user list.  /dev/null may be a nice target as well.

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rsync won't transfer large files?

2005-09-15 Thread Bruno Buys
I am using rsync to mirror dirs between two sarge machines. rsync starts 
to work ok, building a long list of subdirs, etc.. but when it starts to 
transfer a large file, suddenly, it just stops working. I don't see any 
activity in either machines nor the switch. I won't abort as well, so I 
control+c it.

What's wrong?

The command is:

rsync -avz /home/bruno/Documentos [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/mnt/backup/

the switches were extracted from the man page.

The rsync version is 2.6.4-6.

Both machines are debian sarge. Local is kernel 2.6.12-5 and remote is 
2.6.8-2-386.


The 'large file'  is 154MB.

thanks!


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Re: How to detect that runlevel switch is done

2005-09-15 Thread John Hasler
Reinhard writes:
> I would like to know how to determine from within a shell script when
> everything has been done.

The only way I can think of to do that is to add a script that gets run
last to each level.  Have it touch a file in /var/run or something.
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RE: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:59:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > My name is adele flinn..my e-mail address is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] morning..i
> > tried to change my email password..
> >
> > i went to keyword..then change password..my old password
> was...pelian..i
> > changed it to dragonf ...but when i went to change it
> again..to bayabi..it said
> > dragonf was not the right password..now i am stuck..and am
> afraid to turn aol
> > off..because i don't have a way of getting back to my
> mail...PLEASE HELP ME>>>
> > my phone number is 1-772-286-..cell is 1-772-559-
> >
> > please call me..please..thank you..
> >
> > adele
>
> Where do these lusers keep coming from?  *shakes head*

Vikki,

I think it's spam for mailing lists. So, if you reply to the idiot + the
ML, maybe the shit spammer software will know that the emails exist and you
know the rest.

.Alejandro


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Re: Please help asap

2005-09-15 Thread Vikki Roemer
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 10:59:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My name is adele flinn..my e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] morning..i 
> tried to change my email password..
> 
> i went to keyword..then change password..my old password was...pelian..i 
> changed it to dragonf ...but when i went to change it again..to bayabi..it 
> said 
> dragonf was not the right password..now i am stuck..and am afraid to turn aol 
> off..because i don't have a way of getting back to my mail...PLEASE HELP 
> ME>>> 
> my phone number is 1-772-286-..cell is 1-772-559-
> 
> please call me..please..thank you..
> 
> adele

Where do these lusers keep coming from?  *shakes head*

Cheers,

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RE: Need advice on Debian Hotspot

2005-09-15 Thread Alejandro Bonilla

> Greetings,
>
> I want to set up a local wifi hotspot. I've got a decent
> cable internet
> connection to feed it, a small switch to connect everything,
> the access
> points, cabling, and I've just purchased an inexpensive box
> to use as the
> server for the whole project. Naturally, I want to use Debian for the
> server OS, because of apt's ease of management.

This is what I do.

eth0 is WAN and eth1 is LAN.
This works like a charm.
Just put it in /etc/init.d/whatever
cd /etc/init.d/
update-rc.d whatever defaults

TADAA!!

#!/bin/sh
iptables -F; iptables -t nat -F; iptables -t mangle -F
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE
echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -m state --state NEW -i ! eth0 -j ACCEPT
iptables -P INPUT DROP

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 113 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 21 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 25 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 1194 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 110 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8000 -j ACCEPT

iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 8001 -j ACCEPT
iptables -A INPUT -p udp -m udp --dport 8001 -j ACCEPT



then set the DHCP to have knowledge of the both networks.
dhcpd
subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 192.168.0.10 192.168.0.30;
  option broadcast-address 192.168.0.30;
  option domain-name "dns.domain.nameHere";
  option domain-name-servers your.dns.isp.address;
  option routers 192.168.0.1;
}

# The other subnet that shares this physical network (eth0?)
 subnet your.network.here.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  option broadcast-address your.broad.add.here;
  option routers your.defaul.gateway.here;
}


Set the stuff under /etc/networking/interfaces

dammed, I spoiled the fun of this.

(I DUNNO HOW TO MAKE THE USERS TO GO INTO A HTTP BEFORE USING ANYTHIGN ELSE
BEFORE. HOW IS THAT?)

.Alejandro


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Marvell Yukon 88E8053 driver

2005-09-15 Thread Jakub Valenta

Hello
I have a problem with my network card - Marvell Yukon 88E8053, which is 
not supported by Debian Linux. Therefore I am not able to install Debian 
from network.
Do you know where could I find the driver for this hardware and how 
could I install it using floppy disc? And please do not recommend me 
solutions like changing my network card or downloading the full 
distribution.

Thanks in advance
Jakub Valenta


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Re: How to detect that runlevel switch is done

2005-09-15 Thread xcvb
- Original von:  Thomas Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Yes, see the "runlevel" command:
>
> man 8 runlevel
>
> It tells you the previous and current runlevel.

Yes, I know that, but "runlevel" reports the new RL immediately after "init 2" 
f.e. But it takes some time until all apps of the previous RL has terminated 
and all apps of the new RL has started. 
I would like to know how to determine from within a shell script when 
everything has been done.

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Need advice on Debian Hotspot

2005-09-15 Thread DesScorp
Greetings,

I want to set up a local wifi hotspot. I've got a decent cable internet
connection to feed it, a small switch to connect everything, the access
points, cabling, and I've just purchased an inexpensive box to use as the
server for the whole project. Naturally, I want to use Debian for the
server OS, because of apt's ease of management.

I've got plenty of experience with Linux on the desktop (typing this on a
Debian-testing laptop right now), but this is my first shot at setting up a
Linux server of any kind. It's probably going to be much easier than I
imagined, but anytime one goes into the unknown, it can be a little
daunting.

Down to what I need...I want to set up the Debian box to provide internet
access via the access points, give DHCP addresses, provide some basic
security via a firewall, and to direct users to a splash page on the Debian
box giving them the welcome message, usage policies, etc etc. Then they're
free to use the Internet.

The DHCP server and the splash page are the easy partsjust install dhcp
server and Apache, add a splash page and viola. No problem there. I'm going
to have to learn about iptables quickly, and I understand that iptables can
probably handle the initial redirect to the splash page (true?) without the
need for something like NoCat.

So now we get down to the guts of itI'm using the Debian box as a
gateway server to the broadband router with Internet access. The box will
have two NICs...one for the hotspot network (eth0), one going to the router
to gain Internet access (eth1). In short, I want the hotspot users
connecting through the access points, connected to the debian gateway box
via the switch, to have Net access once they've seen the splash page. No
logons, nothing like that. Just one splash page redirect, and then they
have free Internet access. One note here...the reason I didn't go with
something like an off-the-shelf router with NoCat is that in the future, I
may expand the services the Debian box may provide...so a cheap server
seemed like a good idea for this project.

Since I'm an embarrassed newb at Linux servers, I'm asking what are probably
basic questions to you all about configuring this setup correctly. I'm
standing by, armed with O'Reilly books and Google, but one must know the
proper questions before one can find the right answers. I hope I've asked
all the right questions here...if not, please point out what I'm missing.
(A proxy server, maybe? Squid? Let me know).

Any and all help and advice is appreciated



The Network Design
__

*Internet*
|
Broadband Router
|
Debian Gateway Server
*connected to Router via eth1*
|
Access Points 1, 2, 3, 4, etc 
*connected to gateway/eth0 via a 10/100 switch*


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Re: No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:29:41PM -0600, Jules Dubois wrote:
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> 
> Media contact: Patricia Witkin
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 415.863.9900 x303
> 
> NEW BOOK EXPLAINS DEBIAN STRUCTURE AND PHILOSOPHY
> 
> Insights into Debian project and operating system shed light on its
> growing appeal 
> 

While appreciate the hard work that Martin has done on his book, and the
general interest about it on this list, I think that advertising it like
this goes against the Debian mailing list advertising policy [0].  I
don't mean to imply that Martin had anything to with this, simply that
there are lists for announcement of commercial products related to
Debian.

-Roberto

[0] http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads
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Re: php-mysql connection pb

2005-09-15 Thread Oliver Lupton

belahcene abdelkader wrote:


hi,
I am using sarge Official Distro.

I have written an application with php-mysql thru
apache, it ran correctly ( on previous release
before the official sarge without any special config)

, i move it to sarge, now I have a problem, I don't if
it is a sarge pb or a mysql or mysql-php ?
this is the error

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_query()
in /var/www/studentNew.php on line 7

I have install php4 with php4-mysql, mysql-server is
also installed .
the strange  thing (for me of course) is that , the 
phpmyadmin runs correctly and acceed to the database,

so I suppose that the php mysql api is installed
correctly.

Any idea is welcome
thank you very much in advance
best regards
bela

Just an idea (unchecked - I run self-compiled php5), but try either 
putting "dl('mysql.so');" at the top of your script, or add a similar 
line to php.ini (http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.extension)


Hope this helps,

Oliver


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No sound in bzflag

2005-09-15 Thread Jay Vollmer
Hi everybody.

I noticed this afternoon that on my new install of Sarge, while KDE alerts 
work and CDs play, I get no sound when I play bzflag.

BZ ain't as much fun without the explosions!

Anyway, I set up sound on my Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI(v4)
using alsaconf and had no errors, but when I start bzflag, I get the following 
message:

Couldn't open audio: Couldn't find any hardware audio formats

Does anyone have any ideas?

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No Starch Press releases _The Debian System_ by Martin Krafft

2005-09-15 Thread Jules Dubois
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Media contact: Patricia Witkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
415.863.9900 x303

NEW BOOK EXPLAINS DEBIAN STRUCTURE AND PHILOSOPHY

Insights into Debian project and operating system shed light on its
growing appeal 

September 15, 2005, San Francisco - Despite its reputation as an operating
system exclusively for professionals and hardcore computer hobbyists, the
Debian GNU/Linux distribution is gaining popularity rapidly, thanks to its
open development cycle and strict quality control. Witness the headlines
generated by Debian-based Linux distros like Knoppix, Ubuntu, and Xandros.
"The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques" (No Starch Press, September
'05), which includes Volume One of the official release DVD set, is a
must-have for UNIX and Linux administrators who want to delve deeper into
Debian's unique philosophy and structure.

Written by Martin F. Krafft, an experienced developer and a faithful
Debian supporter since 1997, "The Debian System" is intended for those who
want to understand and get more out of their Debian installation(s) - both
Linux/UNIX admins switching to Debian and existing Debian users alike.
Co-published with Open Source Press of Munich, Germany, "The Debian System"
gives readers a peek into the experience level and sophistication that
have shaped the various system components and shows why this system's pure
elegance makes it a desirable choice of many. Krafft introduces the
system's concepts and analyzes the techniques that comprise the Debian Way
of system administration and explains why Debian developers have chosen
certain approaches to development that differ from other Linux
distributions. 

"Debian is a robust distribution with a fascinating community; there is no
source of under-the-hood information like 'The Debian System,'" said Bill
Pollock, founder of No Starch Press. "This book is perfect for anyone
running Debian or any Debian-based distro, or those simply curious about
how this Linux distribution has evolved."
 
Bypassing discussion of Linux tools, graphical desktop environments,
server software or user programs, "The Debian System" is a perfect
complement to the standard Linux references. 

ABOUT THE AUTHOR: Martin F. Krafft has been a faithful supporter of Debian
since 1997, working as a developer and a PR person, and fielding user
questions on mailing lists. He has administered mid-sized networks and is
responsible for numerous university servers and a 40-node cluster of
Debian machines. Krafft is currently working on his Ph.D. at the
Artificial Intelligence Laboratory of the University of Zurich.

The Debian System: Concepts and Techniques by Martin F. Krafft
September 2005, 608 pp., DVD-ROM, $44.95, ISBN 1-593270-69-0
Available at fine bookstores everywhere, from www.oreilly.com/nostarch, or
directly from No Starch Press (www.nostarch.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
800.420.7240). 

ABOUT NO STARCH PRESS: Founded in 1994, No Starch Press is one of the few
remaining independent computer book publishers. We publish the finest in
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Re: Sarge problem with Matrox video driver ?

2005-09-15 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On torsdag 15 september 2005, 16:40, michael bailey wrote:
>  Running Debian Sarge on an Intel P3 machine, twice in
> the past two weeks the screen has frozen completely
> and the Caps Lock and Scroll Lock green lights have
> started flashing rapidly. The mouse and keyboard then
> both don't work and you can't move anything on the
> screen.

Oooo, I'm seeing exactly the same problems, and had set aside the 
evening to make a writeup about the problem. My card is a dual-head 
G450, and I use both heads.

I have exactly the same symptoms as you describe, except my LEDs don't 
blink and it doesn't happen 100% of the time, only 90%. Also, I had 
been running sarge for about 1.5 year before the release, and the 
problem was unknown to me before the last weeks before the release. In 
fact, I suspect it sneaked in with the last X upgrade in Sarge.

Like you, I can hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 and make the system freeze. Moreover, 
running halt as root can freeze the system too, not only logging out 
through the window manager. 

I have been exploring many different possible causes, but has not found 
a single thing that can reliably let me shut down the computer. I have 
been thinking that it may be because I run my dual screens in 
non-Xinerama mode (because I like two independent virtual desktops 
better than one big virtual desktop). Also, there was this bug in artsd 
that could freeze systems on logout, but I shouldn't be affected, and I 
even applied some workarounds for it. Still, I have been trying to find 
out if it could have been something with having sound when logging out. 
Since it has been a daily problem now since (before) Sarge was released, 
I have tried so many things, and I'm pretty much out of ideas. 

Also, I have tried to look in logs, but I really can't see anything 
suspect in any of the system logs. So, I have just praised journaling 
filesystems, and hoped for the best... 

It is interesting to note I'm not alone, though, and I hope by joining 
forces and with the help of the fine folks here, we can figure it out.

Cheers,

Kjetil
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php-mysql connection pb

2005-09-15 Thread belahcene abdelkader
hi,
I am using sarge Official Distro.

I have written an application with php-mysql thru
apache, it ran correctly ( on previous release
before the official sarge without any special config)
, i move it to sarge, now I have a problem, I don't if
it is a sarge pb or a mysql or mysql-php ?
this is the error

Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_query()
in /var/www/studentNew.php on line 7

I have install php4 with php4-mysql, mysql-server is
also installed .
the strange  thing (for me of course) is that , the 
phpmyadmin runs correctly and acceed to the database,
so I suppose that the php mysql api is installed
correctly.

Any idea is welcome
thank you very much in advance
best regards
bela



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konqueror useless

2005-09-15 Thread Enrique Morfin
Hi!

I'm using sid, kernel 2.6.11-1-686-smp

konqueror is not working since update

it only says:

Protocol not supported

http or smb or anyone

it also complains about mime types.

If i try to configure it, i just got an empty window

I belive is about "libmimelib1a", who was removed in
the upgrade.

I can't install it because it needs kdelibs4, and
upgrade chage it for kdelibs4c2.

Probably many other things won't work.

Is this going to be fixed (soon) in coming updates?
Or i should downgrade to kdelibs4?

Thanks in advance!



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Re: booting with kernel 2.6: server hangs

2005-09-15 Thread Aurélien Campéas

Philipp Pfeiffer Ass DM a écrit :

Hello,

I installed current Debian Sarge using net-install onto the following 
server:

IBM 8672-83X (Pentium III, 1 GHz)
512 MB RAM
Adaptec 29160LP scsi adapter
18,2 gb scsi hdd

If I use kernel 2.4 (2.4.27-2-386) the server boots correctly. But if I 
use kernel 2.6 (2.6.8-2-686 or 2.6.8-2-386) the system hangs after the 
following message "Using anticipatory io scheduler".

SuSE Linux 9.1 works with kernel 2.6. But of course I want to use Debian.


Have you tried some newer 2.6 kernels ? Debian's 2.6.8 is crap for me 
(It's quite unfortunate that it was shipped in this state) and starting 
from 2.6.11 it gets vastly better. 2.6.11 kernels are available for sid, 
so you can easily get one for Sarge (it will work out of the box wrt 
sid/sarge differences).




Does anybody have an idea how to solve this problem? Maybe it's a 
compatibility problem with the scsi controller? Unfortunately the syslog 
is not written if I boot with kernel 2.6. So I cannot post the syslog. 
Enclosed you will find the syslog, which I get booting with kernel 2.4.


Thank you for any ideas.

Philipp

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Re: absurdly simple LAN problem

2005-09-15 Thread Alvin Oga

hi ya anthony

On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Anthony Campbell wrote:

> desktop:
> 
> /etc/hosts:
> 
> 127.0.0.1 localhost loopback 
> 192.168.0.20arcadia.acampbell.org.uk arcadia 
> arcadia.acupuncturecourse.org.uk accampbell.uklinux.net
> 192.168.0.22 thinkpad ibm

for testing, change all that .. delete the garbage what was deleted in
this email example

  127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
  192.168.0.20arcadia.acampbell.org.uk arcadia 
  192.168.0.22 thinkpad.acampbell.org.uk ibmthinkpad

> /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> search
  search  acampbell.org.uk

> nameserver 80.84.64.20
> nameserver 80.84.72.20

 
> laptop:
> 
> /etc/resolv.conf
> 
> search acampbell.org.uk
> nameserver 80.84.64.20
> nameserver 80.84.72.20

good on the laptop you did have the correct "search" but your desktop did
not 

> /etc/hosts
> 
> 127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
> 192.168.0.22ibm.acampbell.org.ukibm thinkpad
> 192.168.0.20   arcadia

  192.168.0.20   arcadia.acampbell.org.uk arcadia

> > > ac:/usr/share/doc/shorewall:$ ifconfig -a
> > > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:06:1B:DE:4B:CF
> > 
> > bad .. this does NOT have an ip# assigned to it ...
> > ===

ifconfig  eth0  192.168.0.20
 
> > > wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
> > > 00-40-96-44-B5-A6-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
> > >  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:2312  Metric:1
> > 
> > bad ... this does NOT have an ip# assigned to it
> > /

iwconfig  wifi0 192.168.0.22
  
> How can I correct these?

see above

- if it works when yu manually set it.. you can either do
  those commands in your own script or find the misconfigured files
  and fix it

c ya
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Re: absurdly simple LAN problem

2005-09-15 Thread Roel Schroeven
Anthony Campbell schreef:

> It's a Netgear MR814 router. The ethernet cable from the PC goes to a
> local port on the router and the internet port on the router goes to the
> modem. The laptop communicates with the router by wireless.

Can you ping from both machines to the gateway?

Some routers have a built-in ping utility somewhere in their web
interface; if yours has it, can you ping your desktop and/or laptop from
there?

Sometimes it can help to analyze what's physically travelling over the
wire (or the air, in case of wireless) with tools like ethereal.

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Re: SBC DIALUP

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:32:33AM -0500, Debian User Leonard Chatagnier wrote:
> I've just signed up for SBC Dialup and was able to get on line without any 
> more 
> problems
> than modifying the user ID and password entries in Pap- and Chap-secrets.  
> However, I'm
> unable to activate my email account, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  I tried the URI, 
> tinyurl.com/3k9ds,
> that SBC said to use to activate the account but, was only able to fill in 
> about 4 pages of info
> forms before the next button quit working.  On another attempt to activate 
> the 
> account, SBC said
> to go to www.sbc.yahoo.com/download and download the SBC dialup startup 
> disc(windows and
> mac only) to activate the account and did so hoping to read the disc info to 
> discover a way to activate the
> account.  I got a message saying that my browzer didn't support 
> downloading(first time ever even
> for a windows program).  SBC is no help, not supporting Linux.  I'm hoping 
> someone out there is using
> SBC dialup and knows the solution to my problem.  Any help appreciated.  
> Please 
> copy my email address
> as I'm not subscribed.  Thanks for your help,
> 
Annoying, huh?  I had to use IE to be able to signup with SBC.  There
was no around it.  You may want to consider Opera, whcih at least runs
on Debian, as it is much more gracious about handling the garbage that
IE will accept.

-Roberto

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Problem with webmin-exports

2005-09-15 Thread Nils Erik Svangård
Hi!
I use unstable which I update everyday. I have big issues with NFS. I
had it working around christmas, and I havent touched the config since
then. Now it doesnt work.
I have used webmin to manage my exports.
The signs of trouble:
1. Just the directories are visable when i go to /net/mycompuer from Solaris.
2. Updating the config in webmin, saving, and trying to restart gives the following:
rpc.nfsd: no process killedsh: /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs: No such file or directorysh: /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs: No such file or directory
3. I manually stop nfs-common, nfs-kernel... ,nfs-user...
And start nfs-common and nfs-kernel-server which gives:
Something about sync and async which has changed from previous versions, assuming sync.
Only the directories are visable.

4. I do a nfs-kernel-server stop, and start the nfs-user-server. The
directories are not visable, get a error message NFS gattr failed for
 (RPC: Authentication error).

5. I start both kernel and user server, the dirs are readable but no files are listed.

 Hide filesystem i set to no.

I have no idea to solve this. Does anyone have any suggestions?

/nisse
(And by the way, debian rocks!)



Re: lock ssh user in his home

2005-09-15 Thread anoop aryal
On Wednesday 14 September 2005 01:13 pm, Leonardo Marques wrote:
> Hey people,
>
> Someone know what can i do to lock ssh user in his home ?

a court order for a house arrest? ;)

seriously tho, you may find rssh useful. i've used it to limit users to ssh or 
sftp or scp or a combination of 'em. and it's fairly trivial to setup chroot 
jail for the user. i think it even comes with a script to do just that.

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>
> Thanks for attention,
> []s


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Re: Unable to access to a cd burned with xcdroast

2005-09-15 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 01:40:06PM +0200, CoolFox wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I have the following problem:
> I burn a data cd with xcdroast
> When i try to execute one of the programs burned on this cd with windows Xp, 
> a 
> dos window appears and disappears immediatly and nothing else happens.
> 
> I verified permissions and made a chmod 777 (just to be sure) but it doesn't 
> fix the problem
> 
> Anybody knows why i can't launch some programs with windows xp when i burn a 
> data cd with xcdroast?
> 

This is really a windows question.  However, what happens if you open a
CMD window, go the drive/directory containing the program and execute it
directly from the command line (i.e., no clicking)?  What output do you
see?

Also, did you specify both Rock Ridge and Joliet extensions in xcdroast?

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Re: setting up environment variables

2005-09-15 Thread Daniel B.


On 9/14/05, *Kai Grossjohann* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> writes:

 > If you want to change the envvars globally, then change them in
 > /etc/profile since all users' profile include that.

Is /etc/profile read when a user logs in via xdm, kdm, gdm or a
similar program?

I tried to get my ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile or ~/.zprofile) read
when logging in via [gkx]dm, but gave up long ago.  Now I use startx... 


Shouldn't global environment variables be set in /etc/environment?

If you set them in /etc/profile, they won't be set for all shells,
will they?

Daniel




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Re: still no sound juicer (was Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today)

2005-09-15 Thread H.S.
Apparently, _H.S._, on 15/09/05 12:38,typed:
> So what's keeping sound juicer from coming into Etch? I mean, how come
> it is still not there? Looks like there are some issues with Etch and
> Gnome 2.10 that the Debian team is still trying to resolve.
> 
> I wonder what made them release Gnome 2.10 without sound juicer, or was
> it an oversight?
> 
> 
> ->HS


er .. a little question. What packages will be removed if I remove gnome
and gnome-desktop-environment. I am guessing since there are
metapackages, nothing else will be removed.

->HS


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Re: Is there a screencapture utility?

2005-09-15 Thread Gregory Soyez
> On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 00:16 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I'm running sarge/GNOME. I'd like an ability to capture portions of a
> > screen (part of a window preferably). Is there something which will do
> > that?
> After you've taken the screenshot, edit it GIMP to pull out only
> the window you want.

there also exists a lightweight commandline tool called "scrot" which I found 
quite usefull. It can grab the whole screen or a window (with or without 
borders).

Gregor


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Re: mkaing apt-file do it's job

2005-09-15 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
> I have installed debian from CDs. When I run 'apt-file search bash'
> I get no (empty) result.
> If I run apt-file update all I got is error:
> cp: cannot stat /cdrom/dists/unstable/Contents-i386.gz': No such
> file or directory
> And indeed there is no such a file. How can I recreate that
> file for each of 14 CD I have?

hi, 

I think that you have to fill your /etc/apt/sources.list with
repositories, and to use that, and you will be able to update the
software you already have installed, or install new sw. And after that
you can comment the line of the cd in sources.list

A howto of apt-get (sources.list):

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html

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Re: mkaing apt-file do it's job

2005-09-15 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:21:28AM +0200, Juraj Fedel wrote:
> And indeed there is no such a file. How can I recreate that
> 
> file for each of 14 CD I have?

I believe you want to use 'apt-cdrom'. I don't have a Debian
CD in front of me, but check out the man page for apt-cdrom:
it looks like you'll do something like

sudo apt-cdrom add

to get the indexes recreated. Then apt-file update, like you
did, then apt-file search.

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mkaing apt-file do it's job

2005-09-15 Thread Juraj Fedel
I have installed debian from CDs. When I run 'apt-file search bash'

I get no (empty) result.

If I run apt-file update all I got is error:



cp: cannot stat /cdrom/dists/unstable/Contents-i386.gz': No such

file or directory



And indeed there is no such a file. How can I recreate that

file for each of 14 CD I have?



Juraj


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Re: Is there a screencapture utility?

2005-09-15 Thread garaged
>  'man import'?  With all this GNOME and KDE stuff, people seem to have
> forgotten that the X Window System already had, and continues to have, lots
> of functionality.  I, for one, am afraid of losing it because of all the
> wheel-reinventing that's been going on.

Actually import and export commands are part of imagemagik suite.

xwd IS a part or X tools, and dumps a special format that can be
converted with imagemagik's convert to anything you like.

Max

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still no sound juicer (was Re: Gnome 2.10 going in to etch today)

2005-09-15 Thread H.S.

So what's keeping sound juicer from coming into Etch? I mean, how come
it is still not there? Looks like there are some issues with Etch and
Gnome 2.10 that the Debian team is still trying to resolve.

I wonder what made them release Gnome 2.10 without sound juicer, or was
it an oversight?


->HS


Apparently, _Jason Clinton_, on 12/09/05 22:08,typed:
> On Monday 12 September 2005 8:15 pm, Joseph H. Fry wrote:
> 
>>I can't install it... Everything is there except sound-juicer (>=
>>2.10.1) which gnome-desktop-environment depends upon.  Is this a bug?
>>Has anyone managed a way around this?  Or is it me?
> 
> 
> I have the same problem. It looks like tomorrow's update doesn't have a 
> solution either. You can check to see what's going in tomorrow here:
> http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/accepted.html
> 


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Re: Sarge problem with Matrox video driver ?

2005-09-15 Thread Daniel A. Ramaley
On Thursday 15 September 2005 09:40, michael bailey wrote:
> Is Sarge poosibly incompatible with the video driver
>in the Matrox G200 SD card that is used ?

Anything is possible, but i have Sarge running with a Matrox G200 on a 
dual processor P-II 450 at home and it is perfectly stable. The only 
real problem is that i have to restart Firefox every few weeks (i think 
it still may have some memory leaks), but that is a Firefox problem, 
not a hardware issue.


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Re: lock ssh user in his home

2005-09-15 Thread Oliver Lupton

Matt Zagrabelny wrote:


On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 15:13 -0300, Leonardo Marques wrote:
 


Hey people,

Someone know what can i do to lock ssh user in his home ?
   



ive never done it, but i believe this is an application of 'chroot'.
google for 'chroot ssh' or 'apt-cache search chroot'

-matt zagrabelny


 

afaik then if you chroot then you'll also have to have all the programs 
you want to use (ls, cd, cp, mv...) within the new root directory.


Probably not what's wanted.

-ol


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Re: absurdly simple LAN problem

2005-09-15 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 15 Sep 2005, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > > > firewall (shorewall) does not help.
> 
> ping localhost is 100% guaranteed to work ... as long as 127.0.0.1 is in
> /etc/hosts and you do use /etc/hosts in your /etc/resolv.conf
> 
>   - ping of it's own ip# will always work evenwith the ethernet
>   cable disconnected
> 
> what is your contents of /etc/hosts and /etc/resolv.conf
> 

desktop:

/etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1   localhost loopback 
192.168.0.20arcadia.acampbell.org.uk arcadia 
arcadia.acupuncturecourse.org.uk accampbell.uklinux.net

192.168.0.22 thinkpad ibm

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
# (added automatically by netbase upgrade)

::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts

/etc/resolv.conf

search
nameserver 80.84.64.20
nameserver 80.84.72.20


laptop:

/etc/resolv.conf

search acampbell.org.uk
nameserver 80.84.64.20
nameserver 80.84.72.20

/etc/hosts

127.0.0.1   localhost.localdomain   localhost
192.168.0.22ibm.acampbell.org.ukibm thinkpad
192.168.0.20   arcadia

# The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts



>  
> > ac:~:$ route -n
> > Kernel IP routing table
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> > Iface
> > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth0
> > 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth0
> 
> 192.168.0.1  is presumably your router thru which you expect to get out
>  
> > ifconfig -a:
> > 
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:0B:2B:02:32:FB  
> >   inet addr:192.168.0.20  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> 
> good ... your ip# is *.20
> 
> > For laptop:
> > 
> > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> > Iface
> > 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00 eth1
> > 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 eth1
> 
> good ... your gateway is the same *.1
>  
> > ac:/usr/share/doc/shorewall:$ ifconfig -a
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:06:1B:DE:4B:CF
> 
> bad .. this does NOT have an ip# assigned to it ...
> ===
> 
> > eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:40:96:44:B5:A6
> >  inet addr:192.168.0.22  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
> 
> good ... this is *.22
> 
> > wifi0 Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr 
> > 00-40-96-44-B5-A6-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
> >  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:2312  Metric:1
> 
> bad ... this does NOT have an ip# assigned to it
> /
> 

How can I correct these?

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Re: Is there a screencapture utility?

2005-09-15 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 02:08 -0700, Seeker5528 wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:16:18 GMT
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
> 
> I don't know why the options are not made available through the GUI,
> but if you type:

Time to file a bug...

> gnome-panel-screenshot --help
> 
> : in a terminal window, these are the most relevant options you would
> want for capturing a window.
> 
> Application options
>   --window   Grab a window instead of the entire
>  screen
>   --include-border   Include the window border with the
>  screenshot
>   --delay=INTTake screenshot after specified delay
>  [in seconds]
> 
> I don't see a way to specify only part of a window, though.

That's great.  Thanks.

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Re: Targus Presenter USB

2005-09-15 Thread Simo Kauppi
On Thu, Sep 15, 2005 at 02:47:50PM +0100, Merlin, the Mage wrote:
> Hi ppl,
> 
> I buyed a Targus Presenter (AMP02 EU), and I'm trying to put it to use.
> 
> I'm using Debian testing/unstable up-to-date, and xorg
> 
> The hardware is recognized ok, and kudzu says:
> 
>
> 
> First, I had the keyboard part (pageup/pagedown) working oki, adding a new 
> InputDevice Section to xorg.conf.
> 
> But I couldn't do the same with the mouse, maybe because hotplug is giving 
> the 
> same device to both mouses (/dev/input/mice), so I can't configure diferent 
> driver for each mouse.
> 
> Anyone have a sucessful config for this or any other presenter that I can 
> use, 
> or does anyone have any tip that help me config this hardware?
> 

I don't understand what you mean by `couldn't do the same with mouse'.

I have an Epson projector mouse with Page Up/Page Down/Mouse and I got
it working with xorg just by adding:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Projector_Mouse"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Device""/dev/input/mice"
Option  "Protocol"  "ImPS/2"
EndSection

and of course the InputDevice "Projector_Mouse" to the ServerLayout
section of my xorg.conf.

I don't have any problem using the same device for both of my mice. I
don't have an extra keyboard section, but the Page Up/Page Down works
ok.

> Thank you very much everyone,
> 
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