Re: Compaq 1850R
Are there any know issues with Sarge on a Compaq 1850R ? I hope to install this weekend and hope to avoid any major issues. No issues that I know of - I have 2 running here with Sarge (amongst other Proliants). The Compaq hardware is pretty much well supported. Cheers, Pete. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compaq 1850R
Are there any know issues with Sarge on a Compaq 1850R ? I hope to install this weekend and hope to avoid any major issues. Tanks... -- These are my own poorly arranged thoughts. They usually come to me during periods of sleep deprivation and stress. They do not reflect the official or unofficial policies of any government agency. I refuse to acknowledge them as my own. This site has quite possibly been hacked, and therefore I am unable to be held responsible for anything that may (or may not) appear here. So There. I'm going back to putting on my aluminum foil helmet to block the mind control beams. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SIGPROF is masked by select() .
Hi,all
I am not sure if this list is suitable to issue such a question, but I am sure
I am get help here.
There is a small program that both POSIX timer and select() call is used for
timing.Either timer or select() works well when they run separately. But as
both of them are used together, only the select() call works,the POSIX timer()
is not work at all.
It's probablely that the timer signal SIGPROF is masked by select().
I read a bundle of manuals and found no answer, all said the select() could be
interrupted by signals if not masked.
Below is the program,also,it is attached to this mail.
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
#include
/* ARGSUSED */
static void myhandler(int s) {
char aster = '*';
int errsave;
errsave = errno;
write(STDERR_FILENO, &aster, 1);
errno = errsave;
}
static int setupinterrupt(void) { /* set up myhandler for SIGPROF */
struct sigaction act;
act.sa_handler = myhandler;
act.sa_flags = 0;
return (sigemptyset(&act.sa_mask) || sigaction(SIGPROF, &act, NULL));
}
static int setupitimer(void) {/* set ITIMER_PROF for 2-second intervals */
struct itimerval value;
value.it_interval.tv_sec = 1;
value.it_interval.tv_usec = 0;
value.it_value = value.it_interval;
return (setitimer(ITIMER_PROF, &value, NULL));
}
int main(void) {
if (setupinterrupt()) {
perror("Failed to set up handler for SIGPROF");
return 1;
}
if (setupitimer() == -1) {
perror("Failed to set up the ITIMER_PROF interval timer");
return 1;
}
time_t time_now;
struct timeval tval;
for ( ; ; )/* execute rest of main program here */
{
tval.tv_sec=5;
tval.tv_usec=0;
select(0,NULL,NULL,NULL,&tval);
time(&time_now);
printf("now time is %s\n", ctime(&time_now));
}
}
periodicasterisk.c
Description: Binary data
evolution and news
hi, i am trying out evolution2.0 w 'testing'. can't set-up to read news. i set up a mail account with nntp protocol and my subscribed news server. but can't load the newsgroup subscription list. it stayed at "loading..." forever. i have tried to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the mail bounced back. when i tried to visit www.ximian.com or .org, i ended in Novell's page. anyone here can help or suggest where i can find help? kangja -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Launch an X Windows app from Apache (PHP or Perl)
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:49:50PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi
> I'm setting up an automated movie player system on my Ubuntu box and
> what I want to be able to do is run an application (totem) when a I
> click a link to a movie on my page. This will be run from the server,
> logged in as my default account (it'll be a home theatre system)
>
> The php command I'm calling is
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]("/usr/bin/totem --fullscreen /mnt/hdd1/MOVIE");
> Now because www-data is actually calling this command I get the error
> (totem:9414): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
The problem here is that totem does not know what X display to connect
to. That information is contained in the DISPLAY environment variable,
so to hardcode it:
@system("DISPLAY=:0 /usr/bin/totem --fullscreen /mnt/hdd1/MOVIE");
But note, that will work only if totem can authenticate to the server.
That requires an entry in its user's .Xauthority (or XAUTHORITY variable
pointing elsewhere).
You probably want to create an account for the application, have that
account start X with 'startx' and have the script, or at least totem,
run with that account's permissions. This will ensure that the right
Xauthority file is used and also enforce some security.
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Re: Xorg leaking
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:26:25AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > For me it has always been process related. X seems to develop some insane > memory leak and then when I close the offending process things are ok again. > Can't recall now what where suspect culprits (I think it was something either > web/flash related or dri). Well, I tried closing everything down. Here's what xrestop is reporing after a restart yesterday. And what processes I have running: xrestop - Display: localhost:0 Monitoring 10 clients. XErrors: 0 Pixmaps: 24191K total, Other: 68K total, All: 24259K total res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier 0a0 0206823440K240B 23440K ? 0e0 332 1381 212 1658 751K 50K802K ? 100 4 1442 468B 5K 5K ? xterm 080 4 1442 468B 5K 5K ? xterm 060 4 1442 468B 5K 5K ? mutt-bumby-1000-2799-6 + (/tmp) - 120 220020B144B144B ? VIM 0c0 220020B144B144B ? xrestop 220 200010B 72B 72B ? 040 020010B 72B 72B ? 020 020010B 72B 72B ? Too bad the top one is . I'm not clear if that shows just what's on my Xserver or system wide. Xorg is the process eating memory: $ ps -p 26499 u USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND root 26499 2.9 5.5 109108 50384 ?S< Dec13 97:19 /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 +xinerama And that 109108 keeps growing. Not very interesting, but here's what's I'm running under my user. (this is a bit wide --> ) $ ps -umoseley uf USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND moseley 2325 0.0 0.0 5304 624 tty1 SDec05 0:00 -bash moseley 26486 0.0 0.1 4696 1012 tty1 S+ Dec13 0:00 \_ /bin/sh /usr/bin/X11/startx -- +xinerama moseley 26498 0.0 0.0 2328 572 tty1 S+ Dec13 0:00 \_ xinit /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc -- /usr/X11R6/bin/X +xinerama moseley 26513 0.0 0.4 8176 3708 tty1 SDec13 1:01 \_ icewm moseley 26592 0.0 0.1 3948 964 ?Ss Dec13 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session sh /home moseley 26593 0.0 0.1 3948 1160 ?Ss Dec13 0:00 \_ /usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session sh /home/moseley/.xsession moseley 2667 0.0 0.3 9120 2872 ?Ss 20:17 0:00 \_ xterm moseley 2668 0.0 0.2 5292 2284 pts/374 Ss+ 20:17 0:00 | \_ bash moseley 2795 0.0 0.3 9120 2880 ?Ss 20:25 0:00 \_ xterm moseley 2796 0.0 0.2 5268 2232 pts/377 Ss 20:25 0:00 | \_ bash moseley 2799 0.2 0.5 9872 5332 pts/377 S+ 20:25 0:01 | \_ mutt moseley 2801 0.0 0.1 4684 1536 pts/377 S+ 20:25 0:00 | \_ sh -c /home/moseley/killsig.pl '/tmp/mutt-bumby-1000-2799-6'; vim '/tmp/mut moseley 2803 0.1 0.5 14784 4988 pts/377 S+ 20:25 0:00 | \_ vim /tmp/mutt-bumby-1000-2799-6 moseley 2895 0.0 0.6 10460 6152 ?Ss 20:33 0:00 \_ xterm moseley 2896 0.0 0.2 5284 2248 pts/378 Ss 20:33 0:00 \_ bash moseley 2901 0.0 0.0 3860 896 pts/378 R+ 20:35 0:00 \_ ps -umoseley uf moseley 26597 0.0 0.0 1984 428 ?Ss Dec13 0:00 dbus-daemon-1 --fork --print-pid 8 --print-address 6 --session moseley 26596 0.0 0.0 2548 624 tty1 SDec13 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session sh /home/moseley/.xsession -- Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 22:15, Mike McCarty wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html >> >> I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't >> explain however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to >> patent the lzw algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but >> what do I know. > >Umm, I haven't read them, nor am I a lawyer. However, I took a short >course in "Intellectual Property Law" a few years ago, and learned a >little something, and this is my understanding. > >One does not patent algorithms, whatever you may have read or >heard. Patents are issued for exactly two things: processes and >devices. Now these terms are pretty broadly interpreted. For >example, a mouse with a particular set of genes may be a device. > >So, the mathematical algorithm, in the sense of means of computation >of a given result, is not patentable. What is patentable is the >application of a given algorithm to create a process. For example, >the computations involved in computing the LZW compression of any >given stream is not patentable. But the application of that >computation to the compression of a video image *is* patentable. >So the same algorithm, if it is applied in different ways, may >result in more than one patentable process. > >So this may be an answer to your question. > >Mike Interesting, Mike and thanks, another example of why we need to overhaul the USTPO. Its busted. But then WE knew that already. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should use this address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New User/No GUI
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:15:50PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 18:54, Andrew Cady wrote: > >Not all distributions even use sysv style init. It is faulty > >documentation that assumes any particular runlevel for any particular > >software. That is definitely a system-specific issue. When you see > >documentation making this mistake please submit a correction to the > >maintainer. > > Maybe this is the official debian attitude, but for those of us who > may have a different distro on each machine, it gets damned confusing. > Yes, debian is different, but this is one area where they really > should come in out of the cold & rain. Major things like runlevels vs > functions could IMO be a lot more standardized, and I feel that debian > is doing it different just to be debian. There is no compatibility advantage to standardization here, and changing the runlevels around would break every Debian system that uses runlevels at all. There is also no technical justification for your preference: it is just preference. You can easily configure your Debian system to behave as you like in this respect. > On any system, it seems to make sense that the cli interface is > runlevel 3, and the x interface is runlevel 5. What about a system without X installed? What if I said network servers should be in runlevel 5? > I'm not really sure what runlevels 1,2 & 4 are for unless its to > be able to customize the system to do what you want that might be > different from the normal users of 3 & 5. And no one seems to have > documented very well, or called it to my attention, the debian methods > & reasons, its 'just debian'. All of the runlevels are the same in debian, until you change them, except 0, 6, and 1, which really are standardized (see init(8)). By the way runlevel 3 in redhat is NFS mounting. I.e., runlevel 2 brings up the system including the gettys, then afterwards 3 mounts NFS and 5 starts xdm. You can put NFS mounts and xdm in 3 and 5 on debian, then your systems will all be the same. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 15 December 2005 20:40, Gabriel wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which is (or was) patented. The patent expired in 2003. http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html The license was owned by Unisys and IBM. The one expired in 2003 was the Unisys license. The IBM license expires on 08/11/2006 (in the USA). It's the same algorithm used on GIF. 'scuse me? If the unisys patent expired in 2003, then either the USTPO screwed up again (what else is new?) in issueing the same patent to IBM, or their 'license' is not in fact anything to do with a patent, and should be absolutely moot now that the Unisys patent has expired, all over the planet I believe. Any legal manuevering(sp) should be entirely between IBM & Unisys. And likely a waste of time & shyster fees. If not, and IBM does have a legal claim on the lzw algorythm, please cite some links so that we can become better educated. OK, I said that 'cause I remind something I red about a year ago. It was in the GNU Project Page, where they explain why there's no GIFs on their pages. I just checked and it was last updated on 2005/10/31 17:33:26. Check it out: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't explain however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to patent the lzw algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but what do I know. They mention something: Even if Unisys really did give permission for free software to generate GIFs, we would still have to deal with the IBM patent. Both the IBM and the Unisys patents cover the same "invention"--the LZW compression algorithm. (This could reflect an error on the part of the US Patent and Trademark Office, which is famous for incompetence and poor judgment.) about the middle of the page. :-P -- Cheers -- Gabriel Parrondo Linux User #404138 "In theory there's no difference between the theory and the practice. In the practice There is."
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Gene Heskett wrote:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html
I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't explain
however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to patent the
lzw algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but what do I know.
Umm, I haven't read them, nor am I a lawyer. However, I took a short
course in "Intellectual Property Law" a few years ago, and learned a
little something, and this is my understanding.
One does not patent algorithms, whatever you may have read or
heard. Patents are issued for exactly two things: processes and
devices. Now these terms are pretty broadly interpreted. For
example, a mouse with a particular set of genes may be a device.
So, the mathematical algorithm, in the sense of means of computation
of a given result, is not patentable. What is patentable is the
application of a given algorithm to create a process. For example,
the computations involved in computing the LZW compression of any
given stream is not patentable. But the application of that
computation to the compression of a video image *is* patentable.
So the same algorithm, if it is applied in different ways, may
result in more than one patentable process.
So this may be an answer to your question.
Mike
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AGSync
Is agsync still an active project ? I cannot seem to find any info except when picking throught he Debian lists... Thanks for any info.
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 20:40, Gabriel wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >>On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote: >>>Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: > IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw > which is (or was) patented. The patent expired in 2003. http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html >>> >>>The license was owned by Unisys and IBM. The one expired in 2003 >>> was the Unisys license. The IBM license expires on 08/11/2006 (in >>> the USA). It's the same algorithm used on GIF. >> >>'scuse me? If the unisys patent expired in 2003, then either the >> USTPO screwed up again (what else is new?) in issueing the same >> patent to IBM, or their 'license' is not in fact anything to do >> with a patent, and should be absolutely moot now that the Unisys >> patent has expired, all over the planet I believe. Any legal >> manuevering(sp) should be entirely between IBM & Unisys. And >> likely a waste of time & shyster fees. >> >>If not, and IBM does have a legal claim on the lzw algorythm, please >>cite some links so that we can become better educated. > >OK, I said that 'cause I remind something I red about a year ago. It > was in the GNU Project Page, where they explain why there's no GIFs > on their pages. I just checked and it was last updated on 2005/10/31 > 17:33:26. Check it out: >http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html I see, and many thanks for the link. The one thing it doesn't explain however, is why the USTPO allowed 2 different entities to patent the lzw algorythm. That is still a puzzlement to me, but what do I know. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should use this address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Help with SATA drive/controller error [2nd try]
Hi, all. I have a SATA drive and PCI controller I'm trying to get working without success. This is a debian testing system on an AMD Athlon XP with a KT400 chipset, with linux-image 2.6.14-2-k7 (Debian 2.6.14-4) running. In the dmesg log, I get the following: libata version 1.12 loaded. sata_sil version 0.9 ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 177 ata1: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF88D0080 ctl 0xF88D008A bmdma 0xF88D irq 177 ata2: SATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0xF88D00C0 ctl 0xF88D00CA bmdma 0xF88D0008 irq 177 irda_init() NET: Registered protocol family 23 USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.3 ata1: PIO error, drv_stat 0x51 scsi0 : sata_sil ata2: no device found (phy stat ) scsi1 : sata_sil I've search a bunch without success to figure out what this error means. Looking through kernel code seems to tell me that the drv_stat code is a combination of DriveReady, SeekComplete, and Error, but that doesn't leave me any better informed than before. I'm not currently suspecting a kernel bug, but there doesn't seem to be enough documentation to have a clue as to what's going on. The relevant part of lspci for the SATA controller gives: :00:0a.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- SERR- Latency: 32, Cache Line Size: 0x08 (32 bytes) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 177 Region 0: I/O ports at c000 [size=8] Region 1: I/O ports at c400 [size=4] Region 2: I/O ports at c800 [size=8] Region 3: I/O ports at cc00 [size=4] Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=16] Region 5: Memory at de00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512] Expansion ROM at 5000 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Flags: PMEClk- DSI+ D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-) Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=2 PME- Thanks for any help, Jerry Quinn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: WordPerfect 8.0 (installation)
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 06:04:59PM -0500, Ken Heard wrote: > Herewith is the latest update on my attempts to install WordPerfect > 8.0 on my Debian 'sarge' GNU/linux distribution. ... > It is very much of a disappointment that I cannot seem to be able to > use WP8.0 It makes the claim that Debian is about choice sound hollow. > > There is now another possible option: WINE. Now that a beta version > of WINE is out, I may be able to install WP 12 using it. I'd be very interested in finding out whether and how you get that to work. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Gene Heskett wrote: On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which is (or was) patented. The patent expired in 2003. http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html The license was owned by Unisys and IBM. The one expired in 2003 was the Unisys license. The IBM license expires on 08/11/2006 (in the USA). It's the same algorithm used on GIF. 'scuse me? If the unisys patent expired in 2003, then either the USTPO screwed up again (what else is new?) in issueing the same patent to IBM, or their 'license' is not in fact anything to do with a patent, and should be absolutely moot now that the Unisys patent has expired, all over the planet I believe. Any legal manuevering(sp) should be entirely between IBM & Unisys. And likely a waste of time & shyster fees. If not, and IBM does have a legal claim on the lzw algorythm, please cite some links so that we can become better educated. OK, I said that 'cause I remind something I red about a year ago. It was in the GNU Project Page, where they explain why there's no GIFs on their pages. I just checked and it was last updated on 2005/10/31 17:33:26. Check it out: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/gif.html -- Gabriel Parrondo
Re: [OT] Gmail POP fails
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:55:58 +0200 roach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Anybody got any ideas how to get mail out of a POP account that > claims to have no mail. > > I've... > > - read the doc's > - tried KMail, Sylpheed and Thunderbird > - tried to contact Gmail > > ...but still can't download POP mail. It worked once and then stopped. > > I used openssl to have a look for useable error messages and got: > > +OK [SYS/TEMP] Due to a temporary system problem, this mailbox will > seem empty. > > Now what? :-( It looks like there's not anything you can do. I would take that message to mean that gmail is having server problems and they know about it and are currently working on it. Hopefully someone will correct me if they have more details or I'm misunderstanding. HTH, Jacob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing over to udev
Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 11:29:17PM -0600, Jacob S wrote: > > >>Plain old static device files can still work, udev is just a nice >>convenience that makes life easier. > > > ... or would be if it actually worked. Works great for me! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installation time for a Debian distribution
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 16:29 -0600, Gayle Lee Fairless wrote: > With a speed of between 1.0 and 1.5 mbs on DSL, how long would it take to > install a Debian distribution onto a computer with a 3.2GHZ Pentium 4 > Prescott (800 FSB), and ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard? > > I would have a 250 GB Seagate hard drive. I was thinking of either sarge > or etch, especially etch since I understand that the beta installer would > have the 2.6.12 kernel. > > Thank you for your speculation! > > I am subscribed to the digest, but CC's are fine! How long is a piece of string?! The proposed use of the system is a major factor here. An average desktop workstation complete with X and a desktop environment such as KDE will use much more space than a server installation with purely command line requirements. Installation method is another factor. If I were you I'd download the 100Mb netinst CD image for Etch [1]. This will boot a minimal system from the CD and invoke the installer, which *should* guide you through the whole process relatively swiftly (I've not used the graphical installer but the text mode installer can be quite obtuse at times). On a modern system such as yours, a good proportion of the time required will be spent downloading packages. As an example, apt-get tells me that it needs to download 216MB of archives in order to install KDE on my server. Provided you are competent enough to answer all the questions the installer asks you, a rough estimate would be that you'd have a working system up within 2 hours or so. If you're anything like me, you'll spend more time configuring the system than installing it! HTH and good luck, Adam. [1] Available from: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[OT] Gmail POP fails
Hi, Anybody got any ideas how to get mail out of a POP account that claims to have no mail. I've... - read the doc's - tried KMail, Sylpheed and Thunderbird - tried to contact Gmail ...but still can't download POP mail. It worked once and then stopped. I used openssl to have a look for useable error messages and got: +OK [SYS/TEMP] Due to a temporary system problem, this mailbox will seem empty. Now what? :-( Thanks. All the best. -- Robert "roach" Spencer Pietermaritzburg South Africa -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gdm会造成不读取.xs ession
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:51:26PM +0800, cathayan wrote: > 很郁闷的错误，不知道为什么。起因是我一时想起来Gnome，就在gdm里面切换到Gnome里去看了下，再回来时还是进入了缺省的Xfce4，就这么一个简单的切换，把输入法搞死了，可以运行scim或是Fcitx，就是叫不出输入法。 > > 仔细观察发现，.xsession不知为何被略过了，到/etc/X11/下面去看，也一无所获。 > > 郁闷间想起再用gdm一下会不会恢复。果然在gdm上再选择一次窗口管理器，这回选了一下xfce，进来居然就是好的了。 > > 不明白什么原因。gdm是 2.8.0.6-1。 Select ``default'' in the gdm session menu. PS. If you want to ask in Chinese, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wang Xu Select ``default'' in the gdm session menu. PS. If you want to ask in Chinese, please send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wang Xu > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://blog.cathayan.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 19:29, Gabriel wrote: >Carl Fink wrote: >>On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: >>>IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which >>> is (or was) patented. >> >>The patent expired in 2003. >> >> http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html > >The license was owned by Unisys and IBM. The one expired in 2003 was > the Unisys license. The IBM license expires on 08/11/2006 (in the > USA). It's the same algorithm used on GIF. 'scuse me? If the unisys patent expired in 2003, then either the USTPO screwed up again (what else is new?) in issueing the same patent to IBM, or their 'license' is not in fact anything to do with a patent, and should be absolutely moot now that the Unisys patent has expired, all over the planet I believe. Any legal manuevering(sp) should be entirely between IBM & Unisys. And likely a waste of time & shyster fees. If not, and IBM does have a legal claim on the lzw algorythm, please cite some links so that we can become better educated. -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should use this address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TBird: new email account does not show in folder list
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I don't know what the list of accounts (news, email, local) is called that by default is on the left hand side of the TBird display. We're talking Sarge here. I add a new email account and that account shows up in the "account settings", but *not* in that left hand column. Bummer. So now I have both Mozilla Mailnews installed *and* TBird. Each do part of something: Mozilla shows the new account but does not search messages TBird searches messages but does not show the new account. I found nothing like that in the BTS. If that's it the only thing to try is downloading TBird from mozilla.org. So that solves it. Download the latest. Purge mozilla-thunderbird. Use thunderbird instead. Shows all accounts now. Is there any sense in filing a bug against Sarge? H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAR under linux: any alternative?
Carl Fink wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 02:34:31PM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: IIRC one of the algorithms that can be used in zip is lzw which is (or was) patented. The patent expired in 2003. http://www.sslug.dk/patent/lzwunisys.html The license was owned by Unisys and IBM. The one expired in 2003 was the Unisys license. The IBM license expires on 08/11/2006 (in the USA). It's the same algorithm used on GIF. -- Gabriel Parrondo
Re: TBird: new email account does not show in folder list
On 12/15/05, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't know what the list of accounts (news, email, local) is called > that by default is on the left hand side of the TBird display. > > We're talking Sarge here. > > I add a new email account and that account shows up in the "account > settings", but *not* in that left hand column. When you added the account, did you tell it to use the global inbox/local folders? On the version in sid, that's the default. I don't remember what the default was when I last set up an account. If the new account uses the global inbox, it'll appear under the local folders directory. If this is the problem, and you haven't done anything yet with that account, you might be best-off by deleting the account and creating a new one. -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com
Re: New User/No GUI
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 07:15:50PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On any system, it seems to make sense that the cli interface is > runlevel 3, and the x interface is runlevel 5. I'm not really sure > what runlevels 1,2 & 4 are for unless its to be able to customize the > system to do what you want that might be different from the normal > users of 3 & 5. And no one seems to have documented very well, or > called it to my attention, the debian methods & reasons, its 'just > debian'. Debian uses runlevel 2 by default, and there is no difference between the modes 2-5. 0 == halt. 1 == single user 6 == reboot. There is a nice introduction here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/212 I've always considered it strange that Redhat derived distributions dedicate a different runlevel to "console" and "X11" - but I guess it is something that people are used to now. Changing runlevel setup or init systems is reasonably unlikely partly because it is the way we've done it for so long, and mostly because it is something 99% of users never care about or notice. Debian does have a nice tool to add/remove scripts for different runlevels and that does the job that most users care about - adding/removing a script: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28 Steve -- http://www.steve.org.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New User/No GUI
On Thursday 15 December 2005 18:54, Andrew Cady wrote: >On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:08:03PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> I can understand this is more flexible, but it can be confusing >> for someone new to Debian. All Linux doc's state runlevel 5 is for >> multiuser with X, while Debian gdm installs itself to runlevel 2... >> and this is not so obvious either. Most docs i read where talking >> about changing runlevels in order to stop/start gui login... > >Not all distributions even use sysv style init. It is faulty >documentation that assumes any particular runlevel for any particular >software. That is definitely a system-specific issue. When you see >documentation making this mistake please submit a correction to the >maintainer. Maybe this is the official debian attitude, but for those of us who may have a different distro on each machine, it gets damned confusing. Yes, debian is different, but this is one area where they really should come in out of the cold & rain. Major things like runlevels vs functions could IMO be a lot more standardized, and I feel that debian is doing it different just to be debian. On any system, it seems to make sense that the cli interface is runlevel 3, and the x interface is runlevel 5. I'm not really sure what runlevels 1,2 & 4 are for unless its to be able to customize the system to do what you want that might be different from the normal users of 3 & 5. And no one seems to have documented very well, or called it to my attention, the debian methods & reasons, its 'just debian'. And thats not always a Good Thing(TM) -- Cheers, Gene People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should use this address: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> which bypasses vz's stupid bounce rules. I do use spamassassin too. :-) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2005 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TBird: new email account does not show in folder list
Hi, I don't know what the list of accounts (news, email, local) is called that by default is on the left hand side of the TBird display. We're talking Sarge here. I add a new email account and that account shows up in the "account settings", but *not* in that left hand column. Bummer. So now I have both Mozilla Mailnews installed *and* TBird. Each do part of something: Mozilla shows the new account but does not search messages TBird searches messages but does not show the new account. I found nothing like that in the BTS. If that's it the only thing to try is downloading TBird from mozilla.org. Thanks! Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New User/No GUI
On Mon, Dec 12, 2005 at 08:08:03PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > I can understand this is more flexible, but it can be confusing > for someone new to Debian. All Linux doc's state runlevel 5 is for > multiuser with X, while Debian gdm installs itself to runlevel 2... > and this is not so obvious either. Most docs i read where talking > about changing runlevels in order to stop/start gui login... Not all distributions even use sysv style init. It is faulty documentation that assumes any particular runlevel for any particular software. That is definitely a system-specific issue. When you see documentation making this mistake please submit a correction to the maintainer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What would I do without partimage?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Marsman) writes: > There is also Ghost4linux (not the real Norton stuff) > > and i must say, it works great ! :D > > ghost multiple clients on a network, via ftp! try it out! > > http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/ > I downloaded it, bootet it and what did i end up with? With partimage. This g4l seems to be nothing more than a bootable mini linux with a ncurses frontend for some utilities and partimage... For ntfs partitions, i prefer the more mature ntfs support of the ntfsprogs and the added benefit of loop mounting an NTFS image file. BTW, to save an image via network one can use whatever the pipe permits. Here are some samples from the man page: Backup an NTFS volume to a remote host, using ssh. ntfsclone --save-image --output - /dev/hda1 | \ gzip -c | ssh host 'cat > backup.img.gz' Restore an NTFS volume from a remote host via ssh. ssh host 'cat backup.img.gz' | gunzip -c | \ ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hda1 - Stream an image from a web server and restore it to a partition wget -qO - http://server/backup.img | \ ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hda1 - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Neal Stephenson on Debian
On Sun, Dec 11, 2005 at 07:23:49PM -0800, Tony Godshall wrote: > According to Alex Malinovich, > > On Sun, 2005-12-11 at 17:26 -0800, Tony Godshall wrote: > > > "As far as I know, Debian is the only distribution with its > > > own constitution... but what really sold me on it was its > > > phenomenal bug database... which is a sort of interactive > > > Doomsday Book of error, fallability, and redemption..." > > > > > > -- Neal Stephenson > > > In The Beginning Was The Command Line, 1999, p.106 > > > > Thanks for the quote. I'm assuming you've just now read In the > > Beginning? Better late than never I guess. :) > > Re-reading, in fact. I read that ages ago, but I didn't remember his mentioning Debian. I think I'll take another look at it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Monitor daemon for exim4 logs
On 2005-12-15, Paulo Marcel Coelho Aragao penned: > > Would anybody have recommendations of lightweight monitors for exim4 > logs, something appropriate to a standalone machine with a single > user ? > > Thanks for your attention Paulo > Not a daemon, but I have this in my crontab: @daily /usr/sbin/exim4 -bp | /usr/bin/mail -e -s "exim queue `date`" user You could do the same thing with greater frequency. I didn't follow your description of your mail delivery closely enough to know if this would get caught up in the delivery SNAFU. -- monique Ask smart questions, get good answers: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What would I do without partimage?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Joseph H. Fry") writes:
> Can you configure ntfsclone to clone an NTFS partition but not include the
> swap file or other files of your choice?
>
I don't know because i never bothered... ;-)
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Re: WordPerfect 8.0 (installation)
Herewith is the latest update on my attempts to install WordPerfect 8.0 on my Debian 'sarge' GNU/linux distribution. First, I discovered that in my original post of 17 November 2005, I gave the wrong paths for the files which would be installed by xlib6g. I only discovered my mistake when I tried to do what Mr. Behrens suggested in his post of 20 November 2005: Use "dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile xlib6g.deb" to dump the contents of the package in tar format, on stdout. That way you can use any facilities tar provides, e.g. to only extract specific subdirectories, etc. The contents section of debian packages is typically packaged _relative_ to the root directory, so the following commands (run as root) should install just the two subdirectories you mentioned above: $ cd / $ dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile /path/to/xlib6g.deb | tar xv ./usr/X11R6/include/X11/xkb/ ./usr/X11R6/include/X11/locale/ (simply modify as required -- in case of doubt, use "tar tv" to check what would be unpacked) I then ran dpkg -S and found out that all the files in package xlib6g are now part of package xlibs-data, except those in directory /etc/X11/xkb, linked from /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb. The xkb files are now in package xlibs. So it would appear that packages xlibs and xlibs-data supercede xlib6g. In fact, the properties list of xlibs_4.3.0dfsg.1-14sarge1 says that it replaces xlib6g(<< 4.0). The xlib6g I was trying to install was 3.3.5-1.0.1 I can find nowhere a version of xlib6g >= 4.0. In any event it would be redundant as I already xlibs and xlibs-data in my box. It was consequently unnecessary to do what Mr. Behrens suggested. Next, I discovered that the version of xlib6 on the Corellinux CDROM which I was trying to use was not the same as the one Mr. Wiseman was using. The one I had was 3.3.5-1.0.1; Mr. Wiseman's was 3.3.6-44. I downloaded that version from Mr. Wiseman's website. When I tried to install it I got the following response: SOL:~# dpkg -i xlib6_3.3.6-44_i386.deb (Reading database ... 87476 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking xlib6 (from xlib6_3.3.6-44_i386.deb) ... dpkg: error processing xlib6_3.3.6-44_i386.deb (--install): corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive: Success dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) Errors were encountered while processing: xlib6_3.3.6-44_i386.deb I think I am right in assuming that "Broken pipe" does not refer to an oil spill. Further comparison of the two xlib6 versions reveals that the earlier one depends on xlib6g (>=3.3.2.3a-8) and libc5 (>=5.4.0-0); whereas the later one depends on xlibs (>> 4.0) and libc5 (>=5.4.46). It also conflicts with libc5 (<< 5.4.46-8) [By the way, is any special meaning attached to double pointers as opposed to single ones, e.g., << and >>?] I have installed in my sarge box xlibs 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 and libc5 5.4.46-15; so as far as I can see there is no impediment to installing xlibs 3.3.6-44. However, there must be one, because the package manager will not let me install it. However, whether the package manager will let me install my version of WordPerfect 8.0 is another matter. My version is 8.0-78, which was shipped with a book intitled "Corel Linux OS Starter Kit: The Official Guide", published by Osborne. I purchased it on 24 October 2000. I tried to install Corel Linux but could not; I later discovered that it was considered to be unreliable. So I never got WP 8.0 for Linux working. Mr. Wiseman, in your post of 19 November last, you mentioned that you purchased the Corel Personal version of WP 8.0; and in your post of the previous day you say that you are running it on "a current testing system". It that system etch? My version of WP 8.0 (8.0-78) depends on xlib6g; but yours apparently depends on lib6, libc5 and xpm4.7. I now have two more questions. First, what version of WP 8.0 do you have? Second, while I can understand why I would not get my version of WP 8.0 to load because of the conflicts between xlib6g and later packages, why could I not get xlib6 to run on sarge, when you were able to get it to run on etch? By the way xlib6 does not seem to appear any longer on any current Debian archive. At least I could not find it on my mirror site. It is very much of a disappointment that I cannot seem to be able to use WP8.0 It makes the claim that Debian is about choice sound hollow. There is now another possible option: WINE. Now that a beta version of WINE is out, I may be able to install WP 12 using it. Regards, -- Ken Heard Toronto, Canada Museologist, specializing in technology and transport -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Staying in touch with smbfs filesystems
On Thursday 15 December 2005 22:51, Björn Lindström wrote: > On my home network I mount a couple of shares from a Windows system on > my Debian system using smbfs. > > However, as soon as the Windows system is turned off (which is often, > the user turns it off every night) and then on again, smbfs has lost > contact with the Windows share. Any attempts to use it just times out. > > Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make smbfs automatically > reestablish its connections with the host when it is restarted? This is why I love servers... They are meant to stay up! Alternatively, I'd make the smbfs user mountable, and mount it as you want to use it, much like removeable media.
Re: Athlon AMD 64 3000+
On Friday 16 December 2005 00:50, Mitja Podreka wrote: > Jan Stavel wrote: > > pretty good howto you would appreciate to read: > > > > https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.htm > >l > > I've read the upper how-to and I would like to join the debate with a > question. > I'm thinking to buy new computer and don't know if I should buy i386 or > 64bit. > > Considering the software problems is there some advantage of buying > 64bit computer now (like big increase of speed)? > > Does a 64bit computer run 32bit software faster? I am a bit ignorant about 64-bit systems, but I would imagine that the biggest advantage would be for scientific (ie, mathematical) processing involving large numbers, and the ability to utilise (significantly) more memory. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: don't understand something about xpdf
On Friday 16 December 2005 04:43, Joe Mc Cool wrote: > How come ? Surely the text in the pdf file is not ascii ? Surely > even the text is stored as a "graphic" in the pdf file ? Actually, iirc, it's a form of encapsulated ps (Postscript), a reverse polish programming language. The text can therefore be actual text, taking advantage of printer fonts. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
installation time for a Debian distribution
With a speed of between 1.0 and 1.5 mbs on DSL, how long would it take to install a Debian distribution onto a computer with a 3.2GHZ Pentium 4 Prescott (800 FSB), and ASUS P4P800e Deluxe motherboard? I would have a 250 GB Seagate hard drive. I was thinking of either sarge or etch, especially etch since I understand that the beta installer would have the 2.6.12 kernel. Thank you for your speculation! I am subscribed to the digest, but CC's are fine! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.14-5
On 15/12/05, ochnap2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, yesterday I installed the linux-image-2.6.15-5-386 and had some problems.The computer is a old box with a PC-Chips M598LMRT motherboard, a AMD K6400Mhz CPU, 96 MB of RAM, and using the onboard vga card. The problems are:- no fb console: I'm using vga=773 in the kernel command. I had this problembefore with previous 2.6.14-x iterations, but I thought that it was solved.It seems not, ins't it?- HD not found: After switching to vga=normal, I saw that the new kernel does not boot because it can't find my HD. I get this message:/bin/cat: /sys/block/hda/dev: No such file or directory.a few times and thenDevice /sys/block/hda/dev seems to be down.But the HD is ok, the other installed kernel ( 2.6.12) boots without problems.Finally a shell prompt opens, where I don't know what to do.Thanks in advance for any hint,OchI also had this problem. Please look at the thread After Upgrade No Bootup. The problem seems to be with the unstable version of yaird. It must be purged and the testing version used. The links provided in the thread I mentioned should solve the problem. Cheers.-- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
RE: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 & kernel-source-2.6.8
Never mind, it worked. :D -Original Message- From: Rabbie Zalaf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:52 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 & kernel-source-2.6.8 Hi All, I have recompiled my kernel to include the vserver source as per instructions found here http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/preparing/ And now as of yesterday, when I do an apt-get upgrade, its asking if I wish to upgrade the packages: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 & kernel-source-2.6.8 and I was just wondering if it will break my vservers if I upgrade to the new kernel? Can anyone suggest the best way to upgrade? Any help would be greately appreciated. Regards, Rabbie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
screen resolution in GUI
I keep trying to get Debian to load a GUI to 1280X1024 resolution. I run the install and select the correct driver for my video card. Then when it asks about my monitor I select the medium option and select 1280X1024 @ 75. I know this resolution is supported for this monitor but I continue to get to the GUI and only supports 800X600 and 640X480 are available. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
Re: create a virtual terminal?
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 04:03:40PM +0100, tjas ni wrote:
> I've just installed Debian 3.1 on my old laptop here.
> I do not intend to use X, so I will experience a lot of terminal work.
> So I thought I should do something special with my console.
> After some search on the web I found this image:
> http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v298/amerei1/myblog/nostalgia/console.jpg
> That's taken using Gentoo, but I hope this is possible using Debian too?
> I also found out that you need a framebuffer (?) to do so.
> Found this page: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO.html
>
> So, is there anyone who could please explain to me how I can make my console
> like that on my Debian 3.1 system?
> I would be very grateful
>
>
> Cheers
> nidr
Hi,
if you want to go tough (i.e without X), you will love 'screen'.
cvpoly2:~$apt-cache show screen
Package: screen
Priority: optional
Section: misc
Installed-Size: 980
Maintainer: Adam Lazur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 4.0.2-4.1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libncursesw5 (>= 5.4-1), libpam0g (>=
0.76), ba
se-passwd (>= 2.0.3.4), passwd (>= 1:4.0.3-10)
Pre-Depends: debconf (>= 0.2.17)
Conflicts: suidmanager (<< 0.52)
Filename: pool/main/s/screen/screen_4.0.2-4.1_i386.deb
Size: 581702
MD5Sum: 69be0f4a8d612f598855d34b72ceb431
Description: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation
screen is a terminal multiplexor that runs several separate "screens" on a
single physical character-based terminal. Each virtual terminal emulates a
DEC VT100 plus several ANSI X3.64 and ISO 2022 functions. Screen sessions
can be detached and resumed later on a different terminal. .
Screen also supports a whole slew of other features. Some of these are:
configurable input and output translation, serial port support, configurable
logging, multi-user support, and utf8 charset support.
While I do use X, I exclusively use xterms with screen running inside.
As an example, here is the bottom line of a configuration I use:
\begin{screenshot}
23:08 Thu15Dec 0-$ s0 1*$ mail 2$ music 3$ news 4$ chat 5$ irc 6$
rss 7$ w3m 8$ nethack 9$ s9
\end{screenshot}
Excuse the poor mans screenshot, think one line and color...
I can't stress the power of screen enough. Even better, if you connect
to a host via ssh, start screen and the connection breaks down, the
screen session including the programs running in it keep running!! That
means you can reconnect and find your programs where you left them.
Though screen has seen some spread over the years, I still think it is
one program which doesn't see the publicity it merits.
If you are interested, I can send my .screenrc configuration as an
exampleenough advocacy now :)
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Re: Tip for WLAN application
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 03:43:34PM +0100, tjas ni wrote: > Hi there > > Do anyone of you got a tip for a WLAN application for Debian? > I could need one which can search for wlans and connect to them. > Am not using X. > > And how do I configure my PCMCIA card? I can't get it to work. Perhaps I > should start a new thread for that question... :) > > Thanks for any input! Hi, generally you don't connect to a WLAN with a sniffer, but for finding WLANs, kismet is all you need; and it is console based too. Hth -- Andreas Rippl -- GPG messages preferred Key-ID: 0x81073379 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Kernel configuration: Sarge
Robert Kopp wrote: You're not supposed to trifle with the kernel in Debian, I guess. After installing, say, Fedora, typing "xconfig" would pop the window right up, but that's not the case here (Sarge). The kernel source was missing, and that's easy to correct. But then "make xconfig" * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck] Error 1 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 What's the QT installation? And what's the QT development package? And what's the correct location for the QTDIR environment variable? The query apt-cache search qt must have located at least 50 packages. Well, "config" is dreadful, so I wanted to make sure that at least "menuconfig" would work. But that complained that ncurses-dev was absent. There is no such package, but libncurses5-dev must be what they mean, for that works. But suppose I'm a perfectionist? What still needs to be done to get into qconf? I once used it with Fedora, and it's neat. Robert "Tim" Kopp http://analytic.tripod.com/ try apt-get install libqt3-mt-dev that should get -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome 2.12
On Thursday 15 December 2005 20:15, Marcel Stoop wrote: [snip] > There is a nice blog of one of the gnome-debian maintainers about the > release of Gnome 2.12 and GTK 2.8 in unstable. > > http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-12-15-14-19 > Thanks a lot for the heads up. That explains it all very well. :) Fish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel configuration: Sarge
You're not supposed to trifle with the kernel in Debian, I guess. After installing, say, Fedora, typing "xconfig" would pop the window right up, but that's not the case here (Sarge). The kernel source was missing, and that's easy to correct. But then "make xconfig" * * Unable to find the QT installation. Please make sure that the * QT development package is correctly installed and the QTDIR * environment variable is set to the correct location. * make[1]: *** [scripts/kconfig/.tmp_qtcheck] Error 1 make: *** [xconfig] Error 2 What's the QT installation? And what's the QT development package? And what's the correct location for the QTDIR environment variable? The query apt-cache search qt must have located at least 50 packages. Well, "config" is dreadful, so I wanted to make sure that at least "menuconfig" would work. But that complained that ncurses-dev was absent. There is no such package, but libncurses5-dev must be what they mean, for that works. But suppose I'm a perfectionist? What still needs to be done to get into qconf? I once used it with Fedora, and it's neat. Robert "Tim" Kopp http://analytic.tripod.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
patching a debian source: fails!
Hello All, I'm trying to patch some debian sources, namely bash. I had managed to so with an earlier version (3.0), but with version 3.1 I'm not making it. I've traced the problem with patching bash with the way sources are being set up in debian: 1. mkdir preexec-bash; cd preexec-bash 2. apt-get source bash the output refers to the download, the extraction and the diff, but.. 3. in the new bash-3.1 directory there's a 'debian' folder and a bash-3.1.tar.gz file And that's the thing.. In 3.0 I got a directory with the sources, and I just had to patch the files. In addition, every howto around seems to depend on this source dir being created. Now, if I simply extract this last tgz file, the changes will be overwritten. And I even tried the naive approach of repacking the changed sources, but to no avail. So I was wondering if you could explain what I'm missing. RTFM hasn't been very helpful.. Regards, Renato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random DNS Relpy
On Thursday, 15 December 2005 at 21:00:06 +0100, Lars wrote: > Hi > > I'm running Bind9 on Sarge and it's working fine. Except when pinging > a hostname with multiple hostnames. Fx my web and ftp server is the > same server/IP, so they all reply. I tried having only one hostname as > a A-record and the rest as CNAMe or having them all as A-Records. It > makes no diference Yes, I had similar results recently, so that sshd on other boxes on the network usually refused access with a prissy log entry to the effect that "books != potty" or whatever. I've had to abandon the virtual hosts as a result, although I am sure there must be correct way to achieve that. -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: touchpad busted on 2.6 Dell Insp 4k
The problem was actually with psmouse.proto=imps. I feel kinda dumb. I had used that line in lilo.conf, but since its a module in Debian, it had no effect. So I added to /etc/modprobe.d/make-my-mouse-work: options psmouse proto=imps -- Clear skies, Justin On Fri, Dec 16, 2005 at 07:51:22AM +1100, ML wrote: > On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:12 am, Justin Pryzby wrote: -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel 2.6.14-5
Hi, yesterday I installed the linux-image-2.6.15-5-386 and had some problems. The computer is a old box with a PC-Chips M598LMRT motherboard, a AMD K6 400Mhz CPU, 96 MB of RAM, and using the onboard vga card. The problems are: - no fb console: I'm using vga=773 in the kernel command. I had this problem before with previous 2.6.14-x iterations, but I thought that it was solved. It seems not, ins't it? - HD not found: After switching to vga=normal, I saw that the new kernel does not boot because it can't find my HD. I get this message: /bin/cat: /sys/block/hda/dev: No such file or directory. a few times and then Device /sys/block/hda/dev seems to be down. But the HD is ok, the other installed kernel (2.6.12) boots without problems. Finally a shell prompt opens, where I don't know what to do. Thanks in advance for any hint, Och ___ 1GB gratis, Antivirus y Antispam Correo Yahoo!, el mejor correo web del mundo http://correo.yahoo.com.ar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How to get Amanda and tape libraries to work?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 14:49, jpg wrote: >Been reading docs and working on understanding amanda for about two > weeks now and finally got it up and running with a tape > jukebox/library; SORTOF. > >I can load/unload/label tapes in the library, and got a valid > 'changer.conf', 'disklist', etc. > >However cannot get amanda and the 'tpchanger' chg-zd-mtx to backup > any disk that is larger than the size of one tape in the library. > Sort of defeats the whole purpose of using amanda and tape > libraries. This is a basic limitation of amanda, no disklist entry can be larger than a tape because it cannot span one backup across multiple tapes. The usual fix is to use tar, which allows you to break a large partition into subdir entries, thereby making them fit. >Plus no data is written to the disk cache, '/var/tmp', either when > tape drive fails for whatever reason, as advertised in the amanda > docs. /Var/tmp might be considered a poor place to put the disk cache by some as it should easy to check completion by checking that the assignment is indeed empty when amdump has finished. In any event, the default value of the size of this holding disk 'cache' reserved for use by incremental only backups in the event of a tape failure is 100%, so no full dumps will be kept there by default. You can change this in your amanda.conf file with the reserved keyword, and its usage is explained in that files comments. Doing so will also speed up your dumps by quite a bit by allowing the cache to be used at the softwares full speed rather than speed limited by the direct to tape method forced when it doesn't have an adequate cache. Lack of cache also forces it to serialize the backups, where with it, it can nicely parallelize much of it. Also, offload as much of the compression to the client machines as possible since they can all be doing compression at the same time, and the resultant files then use less network bandwidth so they move faster when the smunching is done. Just make sure you specify different spindle numbers for each physical disk in the disklist options so that it doesn't try to parallelize 2 or more dumps on the same physical disk, which would thrash the seeks all over the drive while it was running. As my / has only a 9% usage according to df, I've set the reserved to 20% of the 27GB free, so it will not ever run into this limitation here. Amanda uses /dumps as this holding disk. Also I have 44 disklist entries, none of which exceed about 2Gb and it all Just Works(tm) to vdisks located on a 180GB partition on a 200GB drive that also functions as /var and swap. But with a gig of ram, swap has never been touched. I didn't exect that, but thats how its worked here. As big, hundreds of GB disks are commodity items today, insufficient holding disk cache is hard to explain. As for explanations and justifications to TPTB that write the checks for these disks, its just an accepted part of using the best disk archiver ever and its performance was designed around having it available. >There is tons of documentation on amanda, but I have yet to find a > single occurrence of how to get amanda to backup large disk mounts > to a library and automatically change tapes as it needs to. Let > alone why no data is being written to the disk cache, for later > writing to the tape when tape errors occur. > >Now I am not even sure amanda even was designed to do so. See above. That said, there is a patch, written by John Stange that does implement the tape spanning ability. Check this lists archives for data and links to it. I'm told it does work quite well. However, I find its little enough problem to just use amanda the way it was designed to be used. That also works very well. >Has anyone on the list ever gotten amanda and tape libraries to work? > Or should I look at ufsdump and fsbackup instead? > >Here are the specifics: > >Debian - sarge >Kernel - 2.6.12.2 >User - backup >group - backup >Version of amanda - 2.4.4p3-3 A bit long in the tooth now, we're up to amanda-2.4.5p1-20051201.tar.gz as of the first of the month. Because once I'd written a script to configure and build it, I have been using the latest snapshots with very little fuss to install them. It takes me about 5 minutes to do the below description. I su amanda, unpack the tarball right in the /home/amanda directory, cp my little 15 line script into the tarballs tree, cd to it, run the script, then hit a ctrl+d to get back to root, cd to the top of that tree and do a make install, followed by an ldconfig, then su back to amanda and run an amcheck Daily to see if there are any surprises. Maybe one a year for 20 updates in that year, usually because of 'operator error' :-) And, because distro packages have been known to contain less than optimum configurations, we on the amanda-users list at amanda.org don't generally recomm
kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 & kernel-source-2.6.8
Hi All, I have recompiled my kernel to include the vserver source as per instructions found here http://deb.riseup.net/vserver/preparing/ And now as of yesterday, when I do an apt-get upgrade, its asking if I wish to upgrade the packages: kernel-image-2.4.27-2-386 & kernel-source-2.6.8 and I was just wondering if it will break my vservers if I upgrade to the new kernel? Can anyone suggest the best way to upgrade? Any help would be greately appreciated. Regards, Rabbie. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: touchpad busted on 2.6 Dell Insp 4k
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:12 am, Justin Pryzby wrote: > Does anyone else find touchpad support to be broken using Debian's 2.6 > kernels? I know about psmouse.proto=imps, but I'm really getting > quite tired of it. It doesn't seem to work on Debian kernels 2.6.8 > and 2.6.14, and I wonder if I just hacked the touchpad driver in my > 2.6.11.1 to Work For Me. > > I'm using a Dull Insp 4k, and the mouse tends to have trouble > "zeropointing"; so it has a continual need to move in one direction or > another. Besides that, click+drag is broken. I really don't care > about palm detection or any of this, I would really like to be able to > make use of my window system, though. > > Please Cc me, thanks. > > -- > Clear skies, > Justin > Got this assistance from this list for my Acer, which I thought wouldn't work the tap with 2.6.xxx kernels. I had to tweak a few things in the to make it work nicely though. Obviously install synaptics driver. In in XF86Config: Section "Module" ... Load"synaptics" >>> Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" >> Section "ServerLayout" ... InputDevice "Touchpad" Worked a treat. don't know about Dell though? You will find the post that helped me in the archives I'm certain, but am unable to attribute it, because I have shamefully forgotten the persons name. Go back about 3 months I think from memory. HTH as it did me. -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ The way in which men cling to old institutions after the life has departed out of them, and out of themselves, reminds me of those monkeys which cling by their tails -- aye, whose tails contract about the limbs, even the dead limbs, of the forest, and they hang suspended beyond the hunter's reach long after they are dead. It is of no use to argue with such men. They have not an apprehensive intellect, but merely, as it were a prehensile tail. .Henry David Thoreau *** Debian Sarge 3.1.. loving it ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2.6 kernel panics with SATA drive
Hello, I'm running debian unstable with the 2.4.27-2-k7 kernel image. I'm trying to upgrade to 2.6.12-3-multimedia-k7, which is a kernel image from an AGNULA/DeMuDi apt source. After apt-getting and rebooting, it fails att bootup. I get the following message: ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14 pivot_root: No such file or directory /sbin/init: 432: cannot open /dev/console: No such file Kernel panic: Attempted to kill init! I suspect this is because I have an SATA drive. I've tried changing "hde" to "sda" in grub's config and in fstab, but i still get the same error. What should I do? Thanks, Péter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome 2.12
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 22:07 +, Mark Crean wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 17:46, Marcel Stoop wrote: > [snip] > > gnome 2.12 isn't even in sid yet. So it will take at least a few months. > > > > Is this because it's thought unreliable? I've been using Gnome 2.12 on a > couple of other distros without problems so far. There is a nice blog of one of the gnome-debian maintainers about the release of Gnome 2.12 and GTK 2.8 in unstable. http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-12-15-14-19 Cheers, Marcel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get Amanda and tape libraries to work?
Been reading docs and working on understanding amanda for about two weeks
now and finally got it up and running with a tape jukebox/library; SORTOF.
I can load/unload/label tapes in the library, and got a valid 'changer.conf',
'disklist', etc.
However cannot get amanda and the 'tpchanger' chg-zd-mtx to backup any disk
that is larger than the size of one tape in the library. Sort of defeats the
whole purpose of using amanda and tape libraries.
Plus no data is written to the disk cache, '/var/tmp', either when tape
drive fails for whatever reason, as advertised in the amanda docs.
There is tons of documentation on amanda, but I have yet to find a single
occurrence of how to get amanda to backup large disk mounts to a library and
automatically change tapes as it needs to. Let alone why no data is being
written to the disk cache, for later writing to the tape when tape errors
occur.
Now I am not even sure amanda even was designed to do so.
Has anyone on the list ever gotten amanda and tape libraries to work? Or
should I look at ufsdump and fsbackup instead?
Here are the specifics:
Debian - sarge
Kernel - 2.6.12.2
User - backup
group - backup
Version of amanda - 2.4.4p3-3
Tape Library - HP SureStore 12000e
Contents of /etc/amanda/normal/amanda.conf
==
org "Linux Workstation" # Title of report
mailto "me" # recipients of report, space separated
dumpuser "backup" # the user to run dumps under
inparallel 4 # maximum dumpers that will run in parallel
netusage 600 # maximum net bandwidth for Amanda, in KB per sec
# a filesystem is due for a full backup once every days
dumpcycle 4 weeks # the number of days in the normal dump cycle
tapecycle 6 tapes # the number of tapes in rotation
bumpsize 20 MB # minimum savings (threshold) to bump level 1 -> 2
bumpdays 1 # minimum days at each level
bumpmult 4 # threshold = bumpsize * (level-1)**bumpmult
runtapes 1
tpchanger "chg-zd-mtx"
changerdev "/dev/sg15"
tapedev "/dev/nst0" # Linux: norewinding
changerfile "/etc/amanda/normal/changer"
tapetype HPC1553A # what kind of tape it is (see tapetypes below)
labelstr "^MY-TAPE-[0-9][0-9]*$" # label constraint regex: all tapes must match
diskdir "/var/tmp" # where the holding disk is
disksize 1000 MB # how much space can we use on it
infofile "/var/lib/amanda/normal/curinfo" # database filename
logfile "/var/log/amanda/normal/log" # log filename
indexdir "/var/lib/amanda/normal/index"
#define tapetype SDT-5000 {
#comment "Sony SDT-5000"
#length 1584 mbytes
#filemark 0 kbytes
#speed 271 kps
#}
define tapetype HPC1553A {
comment "HP SureStore12000E"
length 3900 mbytes
filemark 160 kbytes
speed 453 kbytes
}
define dumptype striped_lvol-tar {
program "GNUTAR"
comment "striped_lvol partition dump with tar"
options compress-fast, index, exclude-list
"/etc/amanda/normal/striped_lvol.exclude"
priority medium
}
==
Contents of /etc/amanda/normal/changer.conf
==
changerdev=/dev/sg15
firstslot=1
lastslot=4
cleanslot=-1
autoclean=0
#lastslot=5
#cleanslot=6
# autoclean=1 Set to '1' or greater to enable
#
# autocleancount=99 Number of access before a clean.
#
# cleancycle=120 Time (seconds) to clean drive (default 120)
havereader=0
offline_before_unload=0
OFFLINE_BEFORE_UNLOAD=0
poll_drive_ready=10
max_drive_wait=120
unloadpause=20
driveslot=0
==
Output from mtx -f /dev/sg15 inquiry
==
Product Type: Medium Changer
Vendor ID: 'HP '
Product ID: 'C1553A '
Revision: '9503'
Attached Changer: No
==
Output from chg-zd-mtx -info
==
1 4 1
==
Output from chg-zd-mtx -reset
==
1 /dev/nst0
==
Contents of E-mail sent by amdump
==
FAILURE AND STRANGE DUMP SUMMARY:
hostname.c /striped_lvol lev 0 FAILED [dump larger than tape, 5968735 KB, but
cannot incremental dump new disk]
planner: FATAL cannot fit anything on tape, bailing out
==
Packages and versions:
==
ii mtx1.2.16rel-4controls tap
Re: Debian on PowerEdge 2850, known bugs?
I have three 2850's running Debian Sarge myself at work.There were a few issues that we became aware of while working with them. The first was with GRUB and the RAID controller not synching fast enough for the GRUB installer to verify the files have been placed on the system without rebooting first. The second issue we ran into was with large partitions and using ext3 filesystems which we resolved by simply converting all ext3 partitions to ext2 and the memory issues surrounding this dissappeared. We have the 2.6 kernel installed but did have to manually build the 2.6.13 kernel to get the latest RAID controller for better reliablility so I recommend you can install with the default kernel but upgrade the kernel to atleast 2.6.13 for the RAID controller as well as I believe it contains an updated NIC card driver. As it has a 10/100/1000 NIC we did have to turn spanning tree "fast port" on the switch port in able for DHCP to operate properly. Regards, Jeremy Sinan Nalkaya wrote: > Im using my poweredges as tftpserver and nfs server, and it may cause >problems on these services whic is related to ethernet driver, i usually buy >a new intel chipset nic. > >On Thursday 15 December 2005 11:58 am, Mickael Cappozzo wrote: > > >>Dear all, >> >>I'm about to install Debian Sarge on a new Server, a Dell PowerEdge 2850 >>with 2 Xeon processors. Before doing that, I'm looking for a list of >>"known bugs"... Does anyone know if such a list exists and where I can >>find it? >> >>Regards, >> >>-- >>Mickaël Cappozzo >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> > > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Random DNS Relpy
Hi I'm running Bind9 on Sarge and it's working fine. Except when pinging a hostname with multiple hostnames. Fx my web and ftp server is the same server/IP, so they all reply. I tried having only one hostname as a A-record and the rest as CNAMe or having them all as A-Records. It makes no diference # ping ftp.utysket.dk PING ftp.utysket.dk (172.16.0.49) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from ftp.utysket.dk (172.16.0.49): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.295 ms 64 bytes from www.utysket.dk (172.16.0.49): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.346 ms 64 bytes from intern.utysket.dk (172.16.0.49): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.310 ms -- /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: TV-out on laptop ATI
For those interested in the solution, the version of xserver-xorg from experimental works perfectly. Regards, Bruno.On 12/10/05, Bruno Diniz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've done that with no success. I think the problem is that newer versions of Xorg and Xfree86 have a buggy support for my radeon card (mobility U1). Thanks anyway, Bruno.On 12/8/05, Robert Michel < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Salve Bruno!On Mon, 05 Dec 2005, Bruno Diniz wrote:> I have a Presario 2100 laptop with a ATI graphics card. The lspci> description of the card is below:...> Sometime ago, I used to have TV-out working with X from Xfree86, the dri > trunk patches applied and atitvout package. Now I can't make it work. Do you> know any solution for this problem?S-VHS?Not for shure, but I know that some Compaq/HP laptops need to have acable connect at boottime. Good luck,rob-- Bruno Diniz de Paula -- Bruno Diniz de Paula
apt-watch error
Hello, Sometimes when apt-watch runs, it pops up a window with the following error message: Archive directory /home/user/.apt-watch/archives/partial is missing After that, apt-watch taskbar icon turns into a red icon with an X, possibly indicating that it failed to work. How can this be fixed? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome 2.12
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 22:07 +, Mark Crean wrote: > On Wednesday 14 December 2005 17:46, Marcel Stoop wrote: > [snip] > > gnome 2.12 isn't even in sid yet. So it will take at least a few months. > > > > Is this because it's thought unreliable? I've been using Gnome 2.12 on a > couple of other distros without problems so far. Hmm, I don't know this for sure, but I thought one of the packages that are responsable for holding Gnome 2.12 back is dbus. It's running pretty stable, but since you have to get it from experimental, I don't recomment this to anyone... unless you know how to use apt and dpkg, etc etc. Cheers, Marcel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: What would I do without partimage?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 11:43 am, Jon Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:20:50AM -0500, Joseph H. Fry wrote: > > I dream of the day that windows will use swap partition instead of a > > swap file sure it made sense to have a swap file that could adjust > > on the fly when drives were small... but with most machines having > > 40GB + these days I can afford to dedicate a pretty significant > > portion to a swap partition and not need it to resize itself > > In win95 you could specify a fixed filesize for the swap file, and > dedicate a partition to just that file if you so wished. I imagine > things are much the same now. > > By contrast, on my work desktop I forgot to create a swap partition > so I use a swap-file, when necessary. That's true... however using symantec ghost, or MS's deployment tools to clone a machine configured as you suggest results in the swap file being placed the destination machine's c: in most circumstances. There are ways around it, but they are far more complicated than they should be. If you had swap partitions, then the windows kernel could simply scan the available partitions for valid swap partitions and activate them at boot. This would allow you to have multiple windows installations that share the same swap space, would make backup and cloning tools easier, and allow MS to develop an optimized file system for swap... though I understand that swap files are only minimally affected by the filesystem they run on. I suppose it's not a major issue... however I do like the swap partition idea that -nix uses. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.14
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:16:52 +0100 Zejn Gasper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had the same experience yesterday, i didn't have time, so i downgraded > to > 2.6.12. > > But there's something wrong with the kernel. > > Greetings, > Gasper Zejn It is rather a bug in the package 'yaird'. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343048 It has lots of info, including one or two recovery possibilities. You could also read the archives of this list. Regards Andrei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: gdm reboot script
On Thursday 15 December 2005 8:32 am, Pablo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hi, > > When you request a reboot or system halt from gdm it shows a new > textconsole screen with color activated. > > Anybody know where i can find that script without downloading the gdm > source and looking for it? > > Thanks! > > P did you take a look in the gdm configuration files... I'd be willing to bet that most of the scripts that it uses are not hardcoded. I'd look for you myself, but I don't have GDM installed. Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: don't understand something about xpdf
Joe Mc Cool wrote: cutting and pasting from a pdf - both text and image - is fairly easy using the tools/utils from xpdf. Under X I can drag my mouse over the _text_ in a pdf file. Then in an xemacs window I can double click and the text is pasted in there. (A very useful facility.) How come ? Surely the text in the pdf file is not ascii ? Surely even the text is stored as a "graphic" in the pdf file ? I am obviously misunderstanding something. Joe Mc Cool PDF is just a stripped down and compressed version of PS. Thus, the text is certainly copyable. It may not be stored directly in ASCII format in the PDF (as in I am not sure if this is the case or not), but it is accessible as some kind of text. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cannot start CUPS
Florian Kulzer wrote: Hi Gabriel, Gabriel wrote: I made an apt-get upgrade today, and now I cannot run the cups daemon. This is the output when I try to start it: localhost:~# /etc/init.d/cupsys start Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited with status 98! localhost:~# Or executing the daemon directly: localhost:~#cupsd cupsd: Child exited with status 98! localhost:~# The problem is caused by a redundancy in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. The daemon tries to bind to port 631 twice, finds it already "occupied" the second time and exits with an error. You can fix the problem by downgrading the package cupsys to version 1.1.23-12 (the rest of the system can be left as is) or by manually editing /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to comment out one line, i.e. Include /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf has to be changed to #Include /etc/cups/cups.d/ports.conf More details can be found here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343279 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=343251 (It seems to have been fixed already anyway in version 1.1.23-14, so you could also simply wait a bit and upgrade again.) Regards, Florian Thanks Florian. I had the same problem this morning, which, thanks to you, turned out to be trivially fixed. R.Parr, RHCE, Temporal Arts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: don't understand something about xpdf
> cutting and pasting from a pdf - both text and image - is fairly easy > using the tools/utils from xpdf. Under X I can drag my mouse over the _text_ in a pdf file. Then in an xemacs window I can double click and the text is pasted in there. (A very useful facility.) How come ? Surely the text in the pdf file is not ascii ? Surely even the text is stored as a "graphic" in the pdf file ? I am obviously misunderstanding something. Joe Mc Cool -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tool to print photos
olive wrote: > In Windows XP, there is a tool to easily print photos: we choose a > directory and the size of the photos and he print puting as many as > photos on a page as possible. Is there such a tool for Linux? I could > use gimp but it is not so easy and it is impossible to manage an A4 page > at a resolution greater than 150dpi with 256Mb of memory. Open konqueror up to your image directory, then look under "Tools" for "Create Gallery". It creates an HTML page instead of A4, Letter, etc, but worth looking into. Very nice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Applications Menu
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 03:58:45PM +0100, Joachim Fahnenm?ller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 04:04:07AM -0500, cc wrote: > > I am looking to add items to my applications menu and cant seem to > > work it out. I have looked for some directions and cant find any. > > Does someone know where I can look to get some info on this. > BTW, the menu system is something I really like about debian! Me too! But this is most likely a case where the menu system *isn't* being used. the main menu in the debian-menu system is called "Apps". In GNOME (and perhaps KDE, I don't know) on sarge the "Applications" menu is managed by something else (xdg or something). However, I would advise the OP to use the debian menu system to create new menu entries (even if they end up under Applications -> Apps -> ...) -- Jon Dowland http://alcopop.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: What would I do without partimage?
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 11:20:50AM -0500, Joseph H. Fry wrote: > I dream of the day that windows will use swap partition instead of a > swap file sure it made sense to have a swap file that could adjust > on the fly when drives were small... but with most machines having > 40GB + these days I can afford to dedicate a pretty significant > portion to a swap partition and not need it to resize itself In win95 you could specify a fixed filesize for the swap file, and dedicate a partition to just that file if you so wished. I imagine things are much the same now. By contrast, on my work desktop I forgot to create a swap partition so I use a swap-file, when necessary. -- Jon Dowland http://alcopop.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
touchpad busted on 2.6 Dell Insp 4k
Does anyone else find touchpad support to be broken using Debian's 2.6 kernels? I know about psmouse.proto=imps, but I'm really getting quite tired of it. It doesn't seem to work on Debian kernels 2.6.8 and 2.6.14, and I wonder if I just hacked the touchpad driver in my 2.6.11.1 to Work For Me. I'm using a Dull Insp 4k, and the mouse tends to have trouble "zeropointing"; so it has a continual need to move in one direction or another. Besides that, click+drag is broken. I really don't care about palm detection or any of this, I would really like to be able to make use of my window system, though. Please Cc me, thanks. -- Clear skies, Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What would I do without partimage?
On Thursday 15 December 2005 9:01 am, Paul Seelig wrote: > I largely prefer ntfsclone from the ntfsprogs package over partimage. > Partimage is nice but the command line based ntfsclone is far more > flexible. Just check out the man page for some usage examples. ... > The ntfsprogs package contains lots of other useful utilities a XP really > can't do without. > Cheers, P. *8^) Can you configure ntfsclone to clone an NTFS partition but not include the swap file or other files of your choice? I dream of the day that windows will use swap partition instead of a swap file sure it made sense to have a swap file that could adjust on the fly when drives were small... but with most machines having 40GB + these days I can afford to dedicate a pretty significant portion to a swap partition and not need it to resize itself Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gdm会造成不读取.xsession
很郁闷的错误，不知道为什么。起因是我一时想起来Gnome，就在gdm里面切换到Gnome里去看了下，再回来时还是进入了缺省的Xfce4，就这么一个简单的切换，把输入法搞死了，可以运行scim或是Fcitx，就是叫不出输入法。 仔细观察发现，.xsession不知为何被略过了，到/etc/X11/下面去看，也一无所获。 郁闷间想起再用gdm一下会不会恢复。果然在gdm上再选择一次窗口管理器，这回选了一下xfce，进来居然就是好的了。 不明白什么原因。gdm是 2.8.0.6-1。 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://blog.cathayan.org
Re: openoffice hangs with 2.6 kernel
On 12/14/2005 11:50 PM, David Zelinsky wrote: > I'm running sarge, so I tried installing it from backports.org, but it > wouldn't install. It depended on some other package that didn't exist > anywhere (don't remember which). > > As for my original problem, I've discovered that when I try to open a > document and it appears to hang, if I wait long enough (several > minutes) it eventually opens. Then opening other documents happens > quickly. I thought the problem was cured, but when I logged in again, > I again had to wait a long time to open the first document. > > -David David, OOo 2.0 runs fine on this sarge box with the stock kernel-image, 2.6.8-2-686. I had some install issues which were quickly handled by the mail list: OOo2 sarge backport fails http://lists.debian.org/debian-openoffice/2005/11/msg00250.html Your "hang" problem may be what I experienced. While OOo runs fine without a java runtime, it does hang the system /looking/ for that runtime. Just un-check the jre option in the tools/options menu. You will need the jre to run the openoffice.org-base module (database) and to use the wizards for creating documents. I later installed the blackdown java .deb as suggested in the thread above. Regards, Ralph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What would I do without partimage?
On 12/15/05, Arafangion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 15 December 2005 13:25, William Ballard wrote: > > I literally would be unable to use Microsoft Windows if I couldn't stay > > mostly booted in Debian and manage that godawfulness with partimage. > > > > Every time I boot into it I restore a clean partimage of XP, let it puke > > all over itself, then restore the cleanness. > > > > It's the only thing that makes patching Windows remotely tolerable. > > > > Eventually partimage will stop working on new versions of NTFS, and it > > seems to not be maintained anymore. It was removed from Sarge. > > > > Are there other tools that work like Ghost but in Linux? Partimage is > > great. > > You could use dd, and compress the image, or use an emulator with a COW disk > image. > Here is a cool one liner for the above : dd if=/dev/hda bs=1k conv=sync,noerror | gzip -c | ssh -c blowfish [EMAIL PROTECTED] "gzip -d | dd of=/dev/hda bs=1k" For more info, read : http://slice.med.uottawa.ca/public/manuals/ImageDisk.html > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Cheers, Maxim Vexler (hq4ever). Do u GNU ?
[pam_tally problem]
hi everyone, i want to configure pam_tally in order to lock out users who entered invalid login credentials for a specific number of attempts. but somehow it doesn't work. subsequent please find my config file for ssh: # PAM configuration for the Secure Shell service # Disallow non-root logins when /etc/nologin exists. auth required pam_nologin.so # Read environment variables from /etc/environment and # /etc/security/pam_env.conf. auth required pam_env.so # [1] # Standard Un*x authentication. @include common-auth auth required pam_tally.so onerr=fail no_magic_root # Standard Un*x authorization. @include common-account account required pam_tally.so onerr=fail deny=3 reset unlock_time=120 no_magic_root # Standard Un*x session setup and teardown. @include common-session # Print the message of the day upon successful login. sessionoptional pam_motd.so # [1] # Print the status of the user's mailbox upon successful login. sessionoptional pam_mail.so standard noenv # [1] # Set up user limits from /etc/security/limits.conf. sessionrequired pam_limits.so # Standard Un*x password updating. @include common-password if i use the above config file, the ssh server won't let me in. if i omit the two lines where common-auth and common-account files are included the server lets me in without entering a password. the interesting thing is if i run: test-log:/usr/src/linux-2.6.14# pam_tally User jhl(1003) has 11 i get the right count for invalid logins. can anyone help me?? i already tried a lot but i can't get it right. i would be grateful for every hint!! best regards, juergen
Re: why only find linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 &&can't find kernel-source-tree,
Are these what you're looking for? http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/linux-source-2.6.12 http://packages.debian.org/testing/devel/linux-tree-2.6.12 -D On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 12:39:48PM +0800, ericradt wrote: | kernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD K7 machines - transition | package | kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp - Linux kernel 2.6 image on AMD K7 SMP machines - | transition package | kernel-image-netbootable - net-bootable kernel for use with diskless systems | kernel-source-2.4.27 - Linux kernel source for version 2.4.27 with Debian | patches | kernel-tree-2.4.27 - Linux kernel source tree for building Debian kernel | images | linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on 386-class machines | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on | PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on | PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 SMP machines | linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on AMD K7 machines | linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7-smp - Linux kernel 2.6.12 image on AMD K7 SMP | machines | rt2400-source - RT2400 wireless network drivers source | rt2500-source - RT2500 wireless network drivers source | kernel-image-2.6.8 - Linux kernel binary image for version 2.6.8. | kernel-package - A utility for building Linux kernel related Debian | packages. | [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:38:09~#3]% | &&only find kernel-source-2.6.8 ??? -- "640K ought to be enough for anybody" -Bill Gates, 1981 www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What would I do without partimage?
Erhm well :D There is also Ghost4linux (not the real Norton stuff) and i must say, it works great ! :D ghost multiple clients on a network, via ftp! try it out! http://freshmeat.net/projects/g4l/ Met vriendelijke groet / With kind regards, Martijn Marsman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> System Engineer AFAB Geldservice B.V. Paul Seelig wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:25:35PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: Are there other tools that work like Ghost but in Linux? Partimage is great. I largely prefer ntfsclone from the ntfsprogs package over partimage. Partimage is nice but the command line based ntfsclone is far more flexible. Just check out the man page for some usage examples. Here are some i came up with: Backing up a NTFS partition into a gzipped image file: ntfsclone -s -o - /dev/hda1 | gzip -9 -c > winxp_hda1.img.gz Recovering a partition works like this: gunzip -c winxp_hda1.img.gz | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hda1 - A friend of mine uses this tool on a daily basis to clone a partition to another disk using this command: ntfsclone -s -o - /dev/hda1 | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hdb1 - Recovering a partition to a file works like this: gunzip -c winxp_hda1.img.gz | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite winxp_hda1.img - after that one can mount and browse it like a normal filesystem: mount -t ntfs -o loop winxp_hda1.img /mnt/ Beat this, partimage! ;-) The ntfsprogs package contains lots of other useful utilities a XP really can't do without. Cheers, P. *8^) begin:vcard fn:Martijn Marsman n:Marsman;Martijn org:Afab Geldservice B.V.;Automatisering adr;dom:;;Plotterweg;Amersfoort email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:System engineer tel;work:0335451000 url:http://www.afab.nl version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Slow copy
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 12:42:18PM +, Graham Smith wrote: | Hi, | | This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for | a utility that will copy a file slowly. [...] | What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate | argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who | has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. I have wanted this every time I had to try and salvage data from flaky hardware. Running cp or scp or rsync at full-speed would lock up the system. I'm not aware of any solution, though, short of creating a new program or modifying cp. -D -- Q: What is the difference between open-source and commercial software? A: If you have a problem with commercial software you can call a phone number and they will tell you it might be solved in a future version. For open-source sofware there isn't a phone number to call, but you get the solution within a day. www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Applications Menu
On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 04:04:07AM -0500, cc wrote: > I am looking to add items to my applications menu and cant seem to work > it out. I have looked for some directions and cant find any. Does > someone know where I can look to get some info on this. /usr/share/doc/menu/menu.txt.gz man menufile man update-menus BTW, the menu system is something I really like about debian! > > Thanks > Charlie HTH -- Joachim Fahnenmüller -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel 2.6.14
I've had the same experience yesterday, i didn't have time, so i downgraded to 2.6.12. But there's something wrong with the kernel. Greetings, Gasper Zejn On Thursday 15 of December 2005 13:23, Andrew Vaughan wrote: > Hi > > On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:34, Richard Fojta wrote: > > Hi, > > I've recently try to install new kernel. Somethings go wrong and I cannot > > found solution. There is some problem with configuration. It seems to me, > > that this problem is not unique. Does anybody know how to solve ti? > > [This is probably more appropriate for -users, attempting to move there. > Reply to set to debian-user@lists.debian.org, Richard Fojta > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bcc-ed to -devel] > > You don't give enough info be sure, but this sounds like it might be the > same problem. > > On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:18, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Today I upgraded my system. > > > > > > It wouldn’t boot up. Instead it give me this error: > > > > > > Waiting 2 seconds /sys/block/hda/dev to show up. > > > > > > /bin/cat:/sys/block/hda/dev: no such file or directory. > > > > > > Is this fixable or do I have to set up my complete system again? Hope > > > not. > > > > > > Pascal. > > > > Here is what worked for me: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg01408.html > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/12/msg01406.html > > > > post your steps if you get stuck > > > > Andrei > > HTH > Andrew V.
Re: Slow copy
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Ronny Aasen wrote: > On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 12:42 +, Graham Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking > > for > > a utility that will copy a file slowly. > > > > Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from > > our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the > > production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and > > the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It > > doesn't > > matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters > > is > > that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. > > > > What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate > > argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one > > who > > has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. > > you can use 'nice' on the "backup script/programs" to give it low cpu priority > if you do your copy with rsync, you can use the --bwlimit argument. > if you do your tar's with --rsyncable you would not have to transfer the > whole tar file each time either, only the differences. a gazillion ways to copy files from xxx to yyy machine :-) > if you do not use rsync you can throttle your aplication with trickle or > shaperd c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What would I do without partimage?
On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 09:25:35PM -0500, William Ballard wrote: > > Are there other tools that work like Ghost but in Linux? Partimage is > great. > I largely prefer ntfsclone from the ntfsprogs package over partimage. Partimage is nice but the command line based ntfsclone is far more flexible. Just check out the man page for some usage examples. Here are some i came up with: Backing up a NTFS partition into a gzipped image file: ntfsclone -s -o - /dev/hda1 | gzip -9 -c > winxp_hda1.img.gz Recovering a partition works like this: gunzip -c winxp_hda1.img.gz | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hda1 - A friend of mine uses this tool on a daily basis to clone a partition to another disk using this command: ntfsclone -s -o - /dev/hda1 | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite /dev/hdb1 - Recovering a partition to a file works like this: gunzip -c winxp_hda1.img.gz | ntfsclone --restore-image --overwrite winxp_hda1.img - after that one can mount and browse it like a normal filesystem: mount -t ntfs -o loop winxp_hda1.img /mnt/ Beat this, partimage! ;-) The ntfsprogs package contains lots of other useful utilities a XP really can't do without. Cheers, P. *8^) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow copy
On Thu, 2005-12-15 at 12:42 +, Graham Smith wrote: > Hi, > > This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for > a utility that will copy a file slowly. > > Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from > our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the > production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and > the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It doesn't > matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters is > that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. > > What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate > argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who > has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. > if you do your copy with rsync, you can use the --bwlimit argument. if you do your tar's with --rsyncable you would not have to transfer the whole tar file each time either, only the differences. if you do not use rsync you can throttle your aplication with trickle or shaperd with regards Ronny Aasen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gdm reboot script
Hi, When you request a reboot or system halt from gdm it shows a new textconsole screen with color activated. Anybody know where i can find that script without downloading the gdm source and looking for it? Thanks! P -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Athlon AMD 64 3000+
Jan Stavel wrote: pretty good howto you would appreciate to read: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html I've read the upper how-to and I would like to join the debate with a question. I'm thinking to buy new computer and don't know if I should buy i386 or 64bit. Considering the software problems is there some advantage of buying 64bit computer now (like big increase of speed)? Does a 64bit computer run 32bit software faster? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Built 2.6.14!
>>1. I am not using udev. Apparently not using devfs either because I compiled >>that into the kernel with no change. Since I am based on an older knoppix >>install, what exactly am I using? Devpts is what? How do I get modules active >>and alsa working? >I note that any attempt to place CONFIG_DEVFS=y (or CONFIG_DEVFS_FS as implied >in the Makefile by the devfs sources!!) produces an undefined symbol error. I >did, however, notice some errors dealing with devfs elsewhere. In any event, >this was NOT in the kernel I compiled! Actually, I do not know how I booted this kernel. The yaird initrd that actually worked panicked out about no devfs. However, the mkinitrd one boots up just fine, without devfs. The "kernel modules no enabled" message I get --the config certainy has them "yes". Some things do modprobe but alsa and a few others do not. There is no devfs mounted, haven't had this in ages. devpts is. My /dev has hundreds of entries, only a handfull of which are actually associated with a real device. So if I am "static", why can't I get the rest of the 2.6.14 modules to work? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: need a "Swiss Army Knife" rescue disk
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Joerg Rossdeutscher wrote: A bit late, but this has to be mentioned: Am Sonntag, den 20.11.2005, 20:03 -0500 schrieb mikepolniak: Now with these two CD's i have everything i need. I use "R.I.P." - "Recovery is possible". http://www.tux.org/pub/people/kent-robotti/looplinux/rip/ OK This thing is great. It contains stuff like "reiser4" since a long time, comes in different flavors (Linux, BSD, Netboot, CD), and, very important for me: It asks which keyboard to use at startup, giving me the opportunity to choose "german", where nearly every key is in a different place compared to the typical default(=us) and even the often used y (="yes") nneds that I press "z" here to get "y". RIP always asks for "1/n" and not for "y/n". Console only, grub, LVM on demand, very small download, never missed anything. Hm, OK, I sometimes missed manpages. It does not contain them, so I use the ones from the system I am repairing. Bye, Ratti -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Solved: Soft RAID1 and SATA - Hardware failure test - I power off disk and system freezes - thanks
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jan Stavel wrote: > >Well, do your disks, your controller and your driver support SATA > >Hotplug? If one of them does not, don't wonder about system freezes :) > > Thanks for your answer. It is new knowledge for me. > > My motherboard does not support SATA Hotplug. Weird, the chipset is listed as being capable of SATA hotplugging. Although maybe they used the SIL3012 PHY to extend the number of SATA ports, and I have no idea if the SIL3012 supports hotplug. The other side of the chain isn't a problem, all SATA HDs support hotplugging. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow copy
Graham Smith wrote: Hi, This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for a utility that will copy a file slowly. Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It doesn't matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters is that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. Can't you run the copy from nice to a very low scheduling priority? H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debootstrap chroot problem
On Tue, 13 Dec 2005, Sinan Nalkaya wrote: Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:35:17 +0200 From: Sinan Nalkaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Jimi Ayodele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: debootstrap chroot problem if it is mounted fs, you should add exec option while mounting. On Tuesday 13 December 2005 02:10 am, Jimi Ayodele wrote: Good day, I am trying to install Debian on a separate partition using chroot from a Gentoo host system. When I issue the following command % debootstrap --exclude=libsigc++-1.2-5c102,manpages,pciutils,slang1a-utf8 sid /chroot/ http://http.us.debian.org/debian packages are downloaded, verified and extracted. The '--exclude=' flag was issued because those packages could not be retrieved, forcing an abrupt exit. (Also, unlike the recreation of the command displayed above, I was able to issue the entire command on a single line.) Despite my efforts to avoid the debootstrap utility from making abrupt exits, I ran into one that stumped me during the extraction process. I have no idea why it happened, but here is the last few (possibly relevant) lines displayed at the console: chroot: cannot run command `mount': Permission denied W: Failure trying to run: chroot /chroot mount -t proc proc /proc umount: /chroot/dev/pts: not found umount: /chroot/dev/shm: not found umount: /chroot/proc/bus/usb: not found umount: /chroot/proc: not mounted As you may have noticed, I created the '/chroot/' mount point for this purpose (not entirely imaginative, but I have no reason to believe that the name has anything to do with this problem.) I did scour the web using google, yet was unable to find a viable solution. Any ideas offered to solve this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org Thanks for your timely reply -- it is greatly appreciated. Interestingly enough, it never occured to me to include the 'exec' option as you have suggested. However, I did realize that once I removed the 'user' option from the partition's entry in the /etc/fstab file, the partition mounted (via the superuser account) without any issues. On a related note, I noticed during the install effort, that the installation would abruptly exit because libselinux.so.1 could not be found. I had to fetch a copy of the library file which is provided by Gentoo before I could proceed. Is it possible to ask the developer(s) responsible to include the library to aid a successful installation? Thanks! [EMAIL PROTECTED] SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Soft RAID1 and SATA - Hardware failure test - I power off disk and system freezes
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Alvin Oga wrote: > some motherboards does NOT like ( recognize ) tne 2nd disk on the same > ide cable if the primary disk is offline SATA != IDE. > you can also dd if=/dev/zero on the disk ( /dev/hdc ) too and try to see > if the sw raid ( running on /dev/hda ) rebuilds it for you Hmm, the raid is in md#, not hd# or sd#. hd# and sd# are member devices. Anyway, be VERY careful if you are doing something like this. It is easy to forget that RAID does not protect against data corruption (even if it CAN help you recover from corruption if you know which devices are not corrupted, etc). It protects against member device *failures*, and as far as Linux is concerned, that means the disk reporting errors or failing to answer, and definately NOT someone writing crap to a member of an array behind md's back. To make it even more clear: if md doesn't notice a device failure, it will not do what you expect. Writing to hd#/sd# is *not* a device failure. And mucking with the last 128KiB of the array member devices could potentially make md think that the OTHER device is the one with old stale data, and cause data loss. So, don't do it to member devices of a md raid array, regardless of raid level. You can safely test resync using: mdadm --manage /dev/md# --fail /dev/sd# mdadm --manage /dev/md# --stop /dev/sd# mdadm --manage /dev/md# --add /dev/sd# and watch the resync on /proc/mdstat, when it is done you can stop the array and compare the two members, you should find differences only on the last 128KiB of the devices (the RAID superblock). PS: I am not sure where the RAID superblock ends up when you fill a partition/block device only partially (by using devices of different sizes in a RAID1 array for example). It may be in the end of the device itself, or just after the RAID data area. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cpp/gcc versions
I want to set up a new box with the possibility to run the latest version of qcad. Unfortunately, this is only available built against cpp3, 5 and 6. I think sid has version 4 IIRC. Can anybody tell me if it is possible to install sarge with version 3 (or 5 or 6)? TIA -- richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Slow copy
On (15/12/05 12:42), Graham Smith wrote: > Hi, > > This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for > a utility that will copy a file slowly. > > Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from > our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the > production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and > the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It doesn't > matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters is > that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. > > What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate > argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who > has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. > Have you tried rsync? It may not alleviate the slowdown of the production machine but it would shorten the time of transfer; rsync only copies changed files. It would however require backing up the files themselves rather the tarfile. I put up some notes on backing up a file server using rsync with some links I found really useful: http://www.clivemenzies.co.uk/selfhelp/FileServer_Install_manual.html Regards Clive -- www.clivemenzies.co.uk ... ...strategies for business -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Solved: Soft RAID1 and SATA - Hardware failure test - I power off disk and system freezes - thanks
Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe wrote: Jan Stavel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80) ... But if I try to power off a disk (unplug the power cable) the system freezes. I cannot read /proc/mdstat. The only way to get the system Well, do your disks, your controller and your driver support SATA Hotplug? If one of them does not, don't wonder about system freezes :) Thanks for your answer. It is new knowledge for me. My motherboard does not support SATA Hotplug. regards Mario regards Jan Stavel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Soft RAID1 and SATA - Hardware failure test - I power off disk and system freezes
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jan Stavel wrote:
> VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
> Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
According to http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html#via this supports
SATA hotplugging in hardware. Good.
Do keep in mind that according to
http://linux.yyz.us/sata/software-status.html:
"libata supports host controller hotplug ("yank the card").
All SATA devices are hotplug-capable.
libata does not support device hotplug ("yank the drive")... yet.
Update: Lukasz Kosewski has contributed an initial implementation of SATA
device hotplug."
So the Linux kernel driver does not support SATA hotplug well (read: at all)
yet. And while switching a drive off is not exactly hotplug, it might
explain the failure mode you observed: the code just isn't ready yet.
> But if I try to power off a disk (unplug the power cable) the system
> freezes. I cannot read /proc/mdstat. The only way to get the system
> running is to do restart.
This is a bad failure mode, I'd report it to the kernel bugzilla, or failing
that, to the Debian BTS asking the kernel maintainers to forward it
upstream.
> Do I do something wrong when trying hardware fauilure?
I don't think so, the hardware you have tried it with should survive it
without trouble.
--
"One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
Henrique Holschuh
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Re: Changing over to udev
Marc Wilson wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 11:00:04PM +0200, David Baron wrote: Udev on Sid requires 2.6.12 or newer kernels. I have 2.6.11 and 2.6.14 (which must have udev). Until 2.6.14 is demonstrably working with udev, I do not want to get rid of 2.6.11 (which uses devfs and current hotplug). Can udev be installed anyway? Consequences? rei $ uname -a Linux rei 2.6.14.2 #1 PREEMPT Mon Nov 21 09:50:55 PST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux And I'm using udev on this box. Not that I like it, not that I give a tinker's damn about demonstrating how big my d*ck is by how empty I can make /dev (and that emptiness has meant I've had to write rules for every symlink I ever had in there)... I just wanted persistent naming for four external USB hard disk enclosures. And I more or less had to use udev to do it. That's unfortunate. I *so* wish md would actually follow through on his claims and demonstrate how to use udev with a static /dev. Oh, and that's a self-built 2.6.14.2... FWIW the last thing I'd ever do is use a Debian kernel. The reason being? H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Slow copy
Hi, This is perhaps one of the stranger questions to be asked but I'm looking for a utility that will copy a file slowly. Part of my ad hoc backup system is to copy the nightly backup tar file from our production machine onto another machine. The problem is that the production machine is not exactly what you would call high performance and the file copy basically causes everything else to grind to a halt. It doesn't matter to me that the copy is done in 5 minutes or 50 minutes what matters is that it doesn't kill the server for 5 minutes a day. What I am basically looking for is a version of cp with a max copy rate argument. I would write my own but I can't believe that I'm the only one who has ever wanted this feature so I suspect there is one already in existence. Thanks, Graham -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Soft RAID1 and SATA - Hardware failure test - I power off disk and system freezes
On Thu, 15 Dec 2005, Jan Stavel wrote: > I switched off raid in Bios and installed Software Raid: > >Personalities : [raid0] [raid1] [raid5] >md0 : active raid1 sdb1[1] sda1[0] > 497856 blocks [2/2] [UU] good > But if I try to power off a disk (unplug the power cable) the system > freezes. I cannot read /proc/mdstat. The only way to get the system > running is to do restart. some motherboards does NOT like ( recognize ) tne 2nd disk on the same ide cable if the primary disk is offline > Do I do something wrong when trying hardware fauilure? unplugging the ide cable or power cable to the drive is a ( real) good test of software raid testing you can also dd if=/dev/zero on the disk ( /dev/hdc ) too and try to see if the sw raid ( running on /dev/hda ) rebuilds it for you c ya alvin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Staying in touch with smbfs filesystems
On my home network I mount a couple of shares from a Windows system on my Debian system using smbfs. However, as soon as the Windows system is turned off (which is often, the user turns it off every night) and then on again, smbfs has lost contact with the Windows share. Any attempts to use it just times out. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to make smbfs automatically reestablish its connections with the host when it is restarted? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
