Cleaning out old backup (*~, *.bak) files

2005-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a lot of *~ and *.bak files in my home directories, including
recent ones, and ones from several years ago.  I'd like to set up a
good system that gets rid of old ones--say, older than a month.  I also
would like them to go to the KDE trash bin.

It turns out that making a good script to do this is not as simple as
it sounds (well, not for me, anyway; I'm new to Bash scripting).  You
can't just mv the files; if you do, they won't show up in the KDE
"trash:/" interface.  You can use kfmclient to move them (like
'kfmclient move foo trash:/'), but that results in a progress box for
each file, and runs at about one file per second.  I ran across a
script by boredhacker (http://dot.kde.org/1105642626/110574/,
scroll down near the bottom) that looks like a good start, but it's
taking me some time to work it into a usable system.  I also found
another thread
(http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=110513719006887&w=2), but I
haven't done any more searching to see if that guy's program is
available anywhere.  There's also a decent-looking (although rather
Windowsish) program called KleanSweep (on KDE-Apps), but it has a bug
that prevents it from working at all (on my system, anyway).

Anyway, I'm posting to see what other Debianites do to clean out their
old, unneeded files; what kinds of scripts, etc.  Any general
suggestions?



Re: How to record with onboard sound card?

2005-12-23 Thread Carl Johnson
Carl Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> LMa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I am a relatively new Linux user.
> > I have the following major problem: trying to record with Audacity
> > (among others) doesn't work with my on-board VIA ac97 sound card.
> 
> I don't have anything to add, except that I have a similar VIA audio
> controller, and I haven't been able to get it working either.  I
> checked with google and found many reports of similar problems, but I
> didn't find any solution that worked for me.  It appears that VIA is a
> good vendor to avoid for linux systems.

Just for the archive, I now can record audio.  The original poster
forwarded to me a recommendation from another source that he try ALSA
with OSS emulation.  I thought I had tried ALSA before, but it worked
fine this time.  I use Sarge, which has both ALSA and OSS, and the
startup loads both types of modules, so that might have confused
matters.  I don't know if it is necessary, but I put entries in
/etc/modules to load the OSS emulation modules for ALSA, and the other
ALSA modules are all automatically loaded.

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compiling xserver x11r7 problems

2005-12-23 Thread John Anderson
Hi,

I'm trying to install X11R7 on my debian testing amd64
computer but I get the following messages during the
make phase:

If anyone has any suggestions I'd be very happy :-)

The computer is using the vesa driver and would be
really nice to have a higher refresh rate.  Mainboard
is Biostar 6100-939 w/Nvidia 6100/410 chipset.  Thanks
in advance.  

John


rm -f auth.o
gcc -c -O2 -fno-strength-reduce -fno-strict-aliasing
-ansi -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wundef -I../..
-I../../exports/include   -Dlinux -D__amd64__
-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199309L   
-D_POSIX_SOURCE -D_XOPEN_SOURCE-D_BSD_SOURCE
-D_SVID_SOURCE
-D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64
  -D_GNU_SOURCE  -DFUNCPROTO=15
-DNARROWPROTO   -DBINDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/bin\"
-DXDMDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm\"   
 -DHASXDMAUTH -DSECURE_RPC 
-DUSESHADOW -DUSE_PAM -DUNIXCONN -DTCPCONN
-DHAS_STICKY_DIR_BIT -DHAS_FCHOWN -DIPv6 
-DGREET_USER_STATIC-DDEV_RANDOM=\"/dev/random\"   
-DOSMAJORVERSION=2  
-DOSMINORVERSION=6 -DXPM
-DUSE_XINERAMA   -DHAS_MKSTEMPauth.c
In file included from auth.c:46:
dm.h:110:31: error: security/pam_appl.h: No such file
or directory
In file included from auth.c:46:
dm.h:425: error: syntax error before ‘*’ token
dm.h:425: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in
declaration of ‘thepamhp’
dm.h:425: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
dm.h:426: error: syntax error before ‘*’ token
dm.h:426: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ in
declaration of ‘thepamh’
dm.h:426: warning: data definition has no type or
storage class
make[3]: *** [auth.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xc/programs/xdm'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xc/programs'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/xc'
make: *** [all] Error 2








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Re: kde 3.5 again

2005-12-23 Thread Mitja
On Friday 23 December 2005 14:17, Mitja wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I installed KDE 3.5 from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ but I
> have now problem with:
> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.0-1_all.deb: trying to
> overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop', which is also in
> package libdjvulibre15
>
> KDE 3.5 works but I don't know how to save this problem. I dleted all files
> from libdjvulibre15 but it is still same...
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mitja

I uninstalled KDE 3.5 packages, uninstall libdjvulibre15 and reinstall KDE 3.5 
and it works :)


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Re: slide rule (OT) was: Question on backups using rsync

2005-12-23 Thread Marc Shapiro


Richard Lyons wrote:

On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 12:50:15 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:


Gene Heskett wrote:


On Tuesday 20 December 2005 20:35, Daniel Webb wrote:


(pulls out my slide ruler to figure out when it's dinner time).



Thats properly called a slide rule.  I still have one, a K&E 
log-log-deci-trig that still works just fine.  Does that make me a 
little jurassic, and probably old enough to be your grandfather?  Yup.


I *made* my first slide rule out of a manila folder, following
directions in a book called "The Fun of Mathematics" (IIRC).



That was a good book.  I never made a slide rule but I still have a
couple somewhere.  Hemmi bamboo slide rules were the best.  Come to
that, I have a couple of lovely sorobans too, but I don't use them very
often either.

Another old fogie...


Mine is a Pickett log-log slide rule and I used to carry it aound in its
case hanging from my belt like a sword before I replaced it with an HP
25 RPN programmable calculator that cost $195.  It had 8 memories, 49
program steps and a 4 number stack.  The calculator is long since dead,
but I still have the slide rule.  I also still have the applications
manual for the calculator and I wrote an interpreter for the HP 25
language in C for a class when I went back to school for a second degree
-- in CS.  I guess I'm Jurassic, too -- and a geek!

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kde 3.5 again

2005-12-23 Thread Mitja
Hi!

I installed KDE 3.5 from http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ but I 
have now problem with: 
E: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.0-1_all.deb: trying to 
overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop', which is also in package 
libdjvulibre15

KDE 3.5 works but I don't know how to save this problem. I dleted all files 
from libdjvulibre15 but it is still same...

Thanks in advance,

Mitja


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Window keeps getting unmaximized

2005-12-23 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Hello,

I am running Metacity/GNOME on a Debian testing machine. I usually
keep my Firefox window maximized and the rest of the windows
unmaximized (gnome-terminal, emacs, etc.)

Recently, however, whenever I open a new tab, the Firefox window keeps
getting unmaximized. Also, if I maximize it again, it stops getting
unmaximized for a while. This while is usualy before I log out or lock
my screen.

Please help, as it is getting rather annoying!

Leonid



Re: apt-check-sigs on sarge security failed - worked up till a week ago

2005-12-23 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:57:37PM -0800, Elaine Tsiang YueLien wrote:
> The sources.list line is
> deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib
> 
> No interest on irc.

  The following files appear to be broken :

http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release.gpg
http://security.debian.org/dists/sarge/updates/Release.gpg

  That is probably the cause, since there will be no way to check the
 trust path.  We got a mail about it already, so hopefully Joey will
 prod one of the admins to fix it.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] got a bunch of mails about it already...

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Re: cant start game

2005-12-23 Thread Leonid Grinberg
Hello,

What do you mean "i load char". What is char? What exactly are you
trying to accomplish? You mentioned that you want to start a game in
the subject line. What game is this? How are you loading it? What are
the specifications of the computer that you are using?

Please provide more information!

Leonid



cant start game

2005-12-23 Thread wendy orchard



hi need help i load char but nothing 
happens
 


Re: KDE 3.5

2005-12-23 Thread Greg Madden
On Friday 23 December 2005 01:23, Mitja wrote:
> I have installed Debian Etch and for now I have a GNOME. I like to
> install KDE 3.5. Is it possible and where should I find files, please?
>
> Mitja

afaik kde3.5 is here:
deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0 ./
deb-src http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0 ./
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Xfce question

2005-12-23 Thread j Mak

 Hi, The other day, I installed enlightenment as a desktop on xfce. But I didn't like the feel of it and removed enlightenment and all the files I created during the  installation. Now, xfce has no window-manager and I cannot move the windows on the screen. How can I restore the default settings?I am running Sarge.Thanks,J. Mak  
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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 12/23/05, Chinook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > /boot/grub/menu.lst
> >
> >  look for a line like this:
> >  kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro
> >
> >  and make it more like this:
> >  kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash
>
>
> That's certainly clear enough - thank you.  But it didn't help - as was
> previously noted the display log is most likely post grub.  I think
> someone mentioned something about X windows config - I'll look for that.

"quiet splash" are options that are passed from grub to the kernel, but
I just tried them and realized that although they decrease the verbosity
they don't eliminate it. I *think* to eliminate it you need special packages
and a kernel patch and recompile. I don't think it is related to X , as
X doesn't get involved until quite late.

This may be the kind of thing you are looking for:
http://www.bootsplash.org/

Hopefully I am on the right track this time...


> What I don't like is that the largest screen resolution I can set is
> 800x600 :-(  How can I get back to 1024x768 that I selected during install?

You mean in the KDE control center under display, right? I have never been too
sure how it interacts with the X config files, but it should let you select any
resolution listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf . You could try unchecking the box that
says "apply settings on KDE startup" and restarting. Then it should use
the X defaults. Otherwise I dunno.


Kelly

PS - As far as hearts go, if all else fails there is always Wine
(www.winehq.com) :-)


what is equivalent to man -a in konqeuror

2005-12-23 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Hi
  I usually read man pages using konqueror. For example, if I want to 
read man page of ulimit, I would type in man:ulimit in the location bar 
of konqueror. But this gives only the first hit of ulimit (which is 
similar to the behavior of man ulimit). Is there any way to open all the 
man pages (preferably in different tabs) that would have been displayed 
by executing man -a ulimit on a bash shell?


PS: I do not know whether to post this kind of request on d-u or 
debian-kde. I am just posting it here since I am familiar with this 
community than debian-kde. Please let me know if this mailing list is 
inappropriate for these kind of questions and I will post them on 
debian-kde from next time onwards...


thanks
raju

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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2005 #3025

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Webb
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 11:20:37AM +, michael wrote:

> mm... not sure which Java SDK is required for this... the Debian/Java
> FAQ just confuses me!

Yeah, Java yuck.  I agree.  There are two programs that are so good it was
worth it to me to install Java: jabref and jbidwatcher.  They are both the
best in their area.  Jbidwatcher is a Ebay auction manager, and it is
fantastic.

I use the nonfree Blackdown packages from stable:

apt-get install j2re1.4


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 04:54:14PM -0500, Chinook wrote:
> Andrew M.A. Cater spoketh:
> >Linux hearts card game on Google shows two good entries at the top.
> >
> >One appears to be a project started this year: the other is about 9
> >years old on freshmeat. Those might be a good start to look at.
> 
> I had googled and did again, and the only "hit" I find that is anywhere 
> near close is hearts-1.98 
> (http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Fortune/Hearts-2573.shtml)
>  
>  -> (http://hearts.luispedro.org/)

That's the one. You might also need X development libraries.

> which when I tried to build it dies in the ./configure with something 
> about X paths not found.  When I do this sort of thing on my Mac I know 
> where everything is, how to add to PATH/env variables, etc.  Since one 
> does not get up to speed overnight, I guess "hearts" will just have to 
> wait until I do (unless someone has already installed it and wants to 
> hold my hand  =-O  )
> 
> What I did was select KDE at the graphical login screen.  I could even 
> pick a Mac OS X style :-) :-)  In the Desktop configuration GUI there 
> were settings for power management that I don't remember seeing for 
> Gnome.  In trying such it has gotten as far as standby so far and come 
> back reliably.  Have to wait another 30 minutes to see if it handles 
> full monitor power down and back.  So at least with KDE I'm closer to 
> resolving that issue :-)
> 
> What I don't like is that the largest screen resolution I can set is 
> 800x600 :-(  How can I get back to 1024x768 that I selected during install?
> 
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 -plow 

should help here. Ctrl-alt-+ or ctrl-alt-numberpad- should
cycle you through available resolutions.

Andy


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Re: iso

2005-12-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:37:20 +0100
MT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bonjour, pourquoi sur les ftp, les images iso de cd bootables sont-elles 
> toujours nombreuses, du type :
> debian-30r2-binary-1.iso
> debian-30r2-binary-2.iso
> debian-30r2-binary-3.iso
> debian-30r2-binary-4.iso   ?
> je m'attendais à en trouver une seule .
> 
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This is an English list, try debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

If i understood your question right the answer is: because you cant fit Debian 
on only one cd ;) There are 15.000+ packages!!!

Andrei



Re: KDE 3.5

2005-12-23 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Mitja wrote:

I have installed Debian Etch and for now I have a GNOME. I like to install KDE 
3.5. Is it possible and where should I find files, please?


Mitja
 

I dont think there are official KDE 3.5 packages available in unstable, 
leave alone testing. But if you want to install KDE onto a testing 
machine, Just run the following two commands as root.


wajig update
wajig install kde

That will pull the latest kde packages available in testing (which I 
think is 3.4.2).


bye
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iso

2005-12-23 Thread MT
Bonjour, pourquoi sur les ftp, les images iso de cd bootables sont-elles 
toujours nombreuses, du type :

debian-30r2-binary-1.iso
debian-30r2-binary-2.iso
debian-30r2-binary-3.iso
debian-30r2-binary-4.iso   ?
je m'attendais à en trouver une seule .

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Re: Mozilla 1.5 download directory

2005-12-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 19:40:00 +
Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 22:45:45 -0600, Kent West wrote:
> > Richard wrote:
> > 
> > >2005/12/22, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 
> > >
> > >>Hi all
> > >>
> > >>I am using Sid and it seems i found a bug in de latest mozilla
> > >>package. I am not sure if this  is a mozilla bug or a debian package
> > >>bug so i ask here if more people can confirm this. I am also using KDE
> > >>and every time when i download something it is dropped in de
> > >>/home/user/Desktop directory while it was before always dropped in de
> > >>/home/user directory. I find it pretty annoying to mv these files
> > >>every time to my home directory from the Desktop directory but it
> > >>seems i can not set the Download directory in de preferences menu to
> > >>/home/user. I can set it to /home or even / (but the user doesn't have
> > >>write rights there) but when i set it to /home/user there is always
> > >>Desktop selected. Even when the /home/user directory is already set in
> > >>the about:config page.
> > >>
> > >>TIA
> > >>
> > >>Richard
> > >>
> > >>   
> > >>
> > >
> > >Sorry ... I mean i am using Mozilla-Firefox 1.5
> > > 
> > >
> > I see the same behaviour here, with FF 1.5 on KDE on Sid.
> 
> This seems to be part of a sort of creeping windozification.  Quite a
> lot of apps now default to this mythical Desktop directory (with the
> irritating capitalization) -- hardly the place you would want to file
> everything or anything-- and a lot of others show only an even more
> mythical Home directory which is actually a completely unnecessary and
> annoying alias for ~/.  I don't see why there is an urge to hide the
> directory structure from the users -- at the very least it imposes a few
> extra mouse clicks to open 'filesystem' and then navigate to where you
> want to be.
> 
> I suppose that is just another grumpy old man response...
> 
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Actually i totally agree, and i'm a long time windows user. It only makes users 
more alienated with their computers. I think a basic understanding of the 
directory structure is a must for *every* user.

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Re: (no subject)

2005-12-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 08:20:55 -0600
Steve Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> ># help
> 
> I don't think I can.
> 
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Don't be so mean, he apologized!

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Re: Booting Proliant 800

2005-12-23 Thread Robert D. Crawford
Peter Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I've just bought a cheap Proliant 800 PII 450 and would like to
> install Debian on it. 

Congrrats. I have a proliant 800 with a pii 400.  It has been a very
solid machine.

> It simply ignores the floppy or CD and start booting from disk.

Sounds like a problem in the "bios", which afaik is contained wholly in
the f10 partition.  You might have to restore this partition before you
can do anything.

> Even the setup utility (F10) results in a message: 'System partition
> utilities not available on this system'

You will probably have to get the floppy image files from the www (it
has been a long time since I have needed to do this).  These are
bootable images I think, and will lead you through the procedure.

> Does anyone have information on onstalling Debian on this system or
> pointers to good info?

The following url should have what you are looking for.  The name of the
guy I talked to at compaq was Richard Black.  He put a bunch of info on
the www concerning installing on proliant servers.

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22richard+black%22+compaq+proliant

I hope this points you in the right direction.

rdc

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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Mike McCarty

Chinook wrote:

Andrew M.A. Cater spoketh:


Linux hearts card game on Google shows two good entries at the top.

One appears to be a project started this year: the other is about 9
years old on freshmeat. Those might be a good start to look at.



Mike McCarty spoketh:


Google is your friend. Searching for

+linux +hearts +card +game

got *several* hits.




I had googled and did again, and the only "hit" I find that is anywhere 
near close is hearts-1.98 
(http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Fortune/Hearts-2573.shtml) 
 -> (http://hearts.luispedro.org/)
which when I tried to build it dies in the ./configure with something 
about X paths not found.  When I do this sort of thing on my Mac I know 
where everything is, how to add to PATH/env variables, etc.  Since one 
does not get up to speed overnight, I guess "hearts" will just have to 
wait until I do (unless someone has already installed it and wants to 
hold my hand  =-O  )


[snip]

It sounds like you didn't install the X Window development package.
I'm not a Debian expert, so I can't help further in that direction.
For Fedora, I'd know just what to do. Sorry...

I'm sur someone here can help.

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Re: Booting Proliant 800

2005-12-23 Thread Raquel Rice
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:22:49 +0100
Peter Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> 
> I've just bought a cheap Proliant 800 PII 450 and would like to  
> install Debian on it. But it will not boot anything. It only tries
> to   boot from a damaged Windoze NT install on it's disks but
> fails after   the initial bootloader sequence.
> I've tried booting without any result:
> - sarge installer CD
> - Sarge bootfloppy
> - HP Smartstart 5.50
> 
> It simply ignores the floppy or CD and start booting from disk.
> 
> Even the setup utility (F10) results in a message: 'System
> partition   utilities not available on this system'
> 
> I've googled but couldn't find info on how to setup this system to
>  
> boot a Linux installer.
> 
> Does anyone have information on onstalling Debian on this system
> or   pointers to good info?
> 

Have you changed the bios so it will boot from the floppy or the CD?

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Re: Booting Proliant 800

2005-12-23 Thread Jacob S
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:22:49 +0100
Peter Teunissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> 
> I've just bought a cheap Proliant 800 PII 450 and would like to  
> install Debian on it. But it will not boot anything. It only tries
> to boot from a damaged Windoze NT install on it's disks but fails
> after the initial bootloader sequence.
> I've tried booting without any result:
> - sarge installer CD
> - Sarge bootfloppy
> - HP Smartstart 5.50
> 
> It simply ignores the floppy or CD and start booting from disk.
> 
> Even the setup utility (F10) results in a message: 'System partition  
> utilities not available on this system'
> 
> I've googled but couldn't find info on how to setup this system to  
> boot a Linux installer.
> 
> Does anyone have information on onstalling Debian on this system or  
> pointers to good info?

Do you have another computer you could put the Proliant's hard drive
in? You could try installing Linux on the hard drive and then putting
it back in the Proliant. Even though it (probably) won't be loading the
proper drivers at boot time, it should then have the tools you need to
get everything up and running. 

Of course, this option is harder if your Proliant has a Raid controller
in it and is booting from the raid array, like my Proliant 2500 does.
You didn't mention much about the hard drives though, so I thought I'd
throw the idea out there.

HTH,
Jacob


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Chinook

Andrew M.A. Cater spoketh:

Linux hearts card game on Google shows two good entries at the top.

One appears to be a project started this year: the other is about 9
years old on freshmeat. Those might be a good start to look at.


Mike McCarty spoketh:

Google is your friend. Searching for

+linux +hearts +card +game

got *several* hits.



I had googled and did again, and the only "hit" I find that is anywhere 
near close is hearts-1.98 
(http://linux.softpedia.com/get/GAMES-ENTERTAINMENT/Fortune/Hearts-2573.shtml) 
 -> (http://hearts.luispedro.org/)
which when I tried to build it dies in the ./configure with something 
about X paths not found.  When I do this sort of thing on my Mac I know 
where everything is, how to add to PATH/env variables, etc.  Since one 
does not get up to speed overnight, I guess "hearts" will just have to 
wait until I do (unless someone has already installed it and wants to 
hold my hand  =-O  )




Mike McCarty spoketh:

/boot/grub/menu.lst

 look for a line like this:
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro

 and make it more like this:
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash



That's certainly clear enough - thank you.  But it didn't help - as was 
previously noted the display log is most likely post grub.  I think 
someone mentioned something about X windows config - I'll look for that.



Andrew M.A. Cater spoketh about switching between Gnome and KDE:

If you have a boot manager (gdm/kdm) running - select under Session


and Mike McCarty spoketh:

Not precisely. But one can shut down the window manager and restart the
other. Or change the user preference. Or have two user logins with
different preferences.


What I did was select KDE at the graphical login screen.  I could even 
pick a Mac OS X style :-) :-)  In the Desktop configuration GUI there 
were settings for power management that I don't remember seeing for 
Gnome.  In trying such it has gotten as far as standby so far and come 
back reliably.  Have to wait another 30 minutes to see if it handles 
full monitor power down and back.  So at least with KDE I'm closer to 
resolving that issue :-)


What I don't like is that the largest screen resolution I can set is 
800x600 :-(  How can I get back to 1024x768 that I selected during install?



Have not got back to numlock yet.

Gotta get back to reading,
Lee C


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apt-check-sigs on sarge security failed - worked up till a week ago

2005-12-23 Thread Elaine Tsiang YueLien
The sources.list line is
deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib

No interest on irc.

Elaine
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Re: Simple question

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Webb
On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 03:05:38PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Am 2005-12-20 04:04:24, schrieb Teilhard Knight:
> > What's the command to stop a service like gdm?
> 
> It depends.
> 
> 1)  For killing it the current bootet Computer
> 
> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
> 
> 2)  Only from the runlevel 2
> 
> rm /etc/rc2.d/??gdm
> 
> 3)  Permanently
> 
> apt-get --purge remove gdm

4) From all runlevels:

update-rc.d -f gdm remove 


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Booting Proliant 800

2005-12-23 Thread Peter Teunissen
Hi All,I've just bought a cheap Proliant 800 PII 450 and would like to install Debian on it. But it will not boot anything. It only tries to boot from a damaged Windoze NT install on it's disks but fails after the initial bootloader sequence.I've tried booting without any result:- sarge installer CD- Sarge bootfloppy- HP Smartstart 5.50It simply ignores the floppy or CD and start booting from disk.Even the setup utility (F10) results in a message: 'System partition utilities not available on this system'I've googled but couldn't find info on how to setup this system to boot a Linux installer.Does anyone have information on onstalling Debian on this system or pointers to good info?Groet,   Peter Teunissen  -- Never argue with idiots; they'll drag you down to their own level and beat you on experience.   

nVidia and the Black Screen Problem... Continued

2005-12-23 Thread moonunit

Hello

As it seems now one knows about the problem I'm having with my old 
nvidia TNT card (see mail below) I thought I'd keep you posted with 
updates of my attempts to correct this poblem so far. I'm compiling new 
kernel and installing 0.8174 modules to see if they solve the problem.


Meanwhile, can anyone recommend a card with open source drivers for a 
five year old machine? Emphasis on cheap here, I don't really play games 
much.


Thank you.  Steve


Hello

I have just recompiled my kernel, now running 2.4.27. I compiled the 
nvidia kernel from source  0.7174 (I have a  TNT card) and the module 
installation went smoothly, nvidia-glx for 0.7174 was also installed. 
However, I now have a black screen whenever I try to run X with the 
nvidia driver and have to restart to get control back (can't get to 
any virtual screens either).


lilo.conf has the parameter "pci=noacpi" to fix the IRQ problem.

There are no errors reported in /var/log/Xorg.log.

I have searched for answers but all I have found is reports of similar 
problems. I'm stumped. Any ideas anyone?


Thank you.  Steve.



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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:19:24 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:46:28 -0600
> > Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Is the USB Flash drive formatted? I'd assume it's formatted
> > > > FAT. Do you have a windos machine to check it out?
> > > >
> > > > Unplug the CF drive, since it works.
> > > >
> > > > Unplug and replug the flash drive in, and dmesg again. see what
> > > > it says when you plug it in.
> > > >
> > >
> > > USB Flash drive is fomatted with FAT and it's already have about
> > > 200MB of data. And also this drive is working on the Windows and
> > > Mac OS X(both Tiger and Panther). I already said couple times but
> > > this USB drive is working on the same Debian sarge but kernel 2.4.
> > >
> > > I repluged USB flash drive but no log were given. Still last
> > > lines of dmesg is one that I posted recently.
> >
> > Do you have usbview installed? If not, install it, and run it. This
> > will find all usb devices on the computer.
> >
> > Also, if you have the flash drive plugged into a USB hub, plug it
> > into the computer directly as well.
> 
> I installed usbview and reconnect my USB flash drive into my PC
> directly, but still I can't see on either dmesg, /dev, usbview.
> 
> Here is a diagram of what the usbview showed.
> 
> +Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)
> |  +Apple Optical USB Mouse
> +Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)
> |  +eM Bay Reader
> +Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)

Okay. I'm at a loss. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can help later
today.

Sorry.

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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:46:28 -0600
> Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Is the USB Flash drive formatted? I'd assume it's formatted FAT. Do
> > > you have a windos machine to check it out?
> > >
> > > Unplug the CF drive, since it works.
> > >
> > > Unplug and replug the flash drive in, and dmesg again. see what it
> > > says when you plug it in.
> > >
> >
> > USB Flash drive is fomatted with FAT and it's already have about
> > 200MB of data. And also this drive is working on the Windows and Mac
> > OS X(both Tiger and Panther). I already said couple times but this
> > USB drive is working on the same Debian sarge but kernel 2.4.
> >
> > I repluged USB flash drive but no log were given. Still last lines of
> > dmesg is one that I posted recently.
>
> Do you have usbview installed? If not, install it, and run it. This
> will find all usb devices on the computer.
>
> Also, if you have the flash drive plugged into a USB hub, plug it into
> the computer directly as well.

I installed usbview and reconnect my USB flash drive into my PC directly,
but still I can't see on either dmesg, /dev, usbview.

Here is a diagram of what the usbview showed.

+Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)
|  +Apple Optical USB Mouse
+Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)
|  +eM Bay Reader
+Intel Corp. 82801DB(ICH4)

>
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>
>



udev and CUPS

2005-12-23 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello List,

I have just installed my new USB printer:
I added my new printer to CUPS list of printers,
I added basic udev rules to manage it.

Now I would like that udev `enable' (`disable')
my USB printer when it is plugged (unplugged):
is there a simple (Debian) to do so ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome

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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:46:28 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:29:21 -0600
> > Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes CF is mounted on the /media/CANON_DC and it is accessed
> > > from /dev/sdb. So I'm able to read or write something on /dev/sdb
> > > which is CF that mounted on the multi card reader.
> > > But USB flash drive isn't RECOGNIZED yet and dmesg says nothing
> > > about USB flash drive.
> >
> > Is the USB Flash drive formatted? I'd assume it's formatted FAT. Do
> > you have a windos machine to check it out?
> >
> > Unplug the CF drive, since it works.
> >
> > Unplug and replug the flash drive in, and dmesg again. see what it
> > says when you plug it in.
> >
> 
> USB Flash drive is fomatted with FAT and it's already have about
> 200MB of data. And also this drive is working on the Windows and Mac
> OS X(both Tiger and Panther). I already said couple times but this
> USB drive is working on the same Debian sarge but kernel 2.4.
> 
> I repluged USB flash drive but no log were given. Still last lines of
> dmesg is one that I posted recently.

Do you have usbview installed? If not, install it, and run it. This
will find all usb devices on the computer.

Also, if you have the flash drive plugged into a USB hub, plug it into
the computer directly as well.

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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:29:21 -0600
> Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Yes CF is mounted on the /media/CANON_DC and it is accessed
> > from /dev/sdb. So I'm able to read or write something on /dev/sdb
> > which is CF that mounted on the multi card reader.
> > But USB flash drive isn't RECOGNIZED yet and dmesg says nothing about
> > USB flash drive.
>
> Is the USB Flash drive formatted? I'd assume it's formatted FAT. Do you
> have a windos machine to check it out?
>
> Unplug the CF drive, since it works.
>
> Unplug and replug the flash drive in, and dmesg again. see what it says
> when you plug it in.
>

USB Flash drive is fomatted with FAT and it's already have about 200MB of
data. And also this drive is working on the Windows and Mac OS X(both
Tiger and Panther). I already said couple times but this USB drive is
working on the same Debian sarge but kernel 2.4.

I repluged USB flash drive but no log were given. Still last lines of dmesg
is one that I posted recently.

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Re: MTA slow to start

2005-12-23 Thread mikepolniak
On 22:22 Thu 22 Dec , Tyler Smith wrote:
> During boot up it takes about 30 seconds for MTA to start for my Etch 
> install. With Sarge on the same box this takes less than a second. Can I 
> fix this somehow? I'm running a single desktop computer, connected via 
> an NIC through a router to highspeed DSL, and I get all my mail from pop 
> accounts with Thunderbird. Do I even need an MTA?

Assuming you are using Exim4, the README.Debian in the docs lists a
number of ways to solve this by limiting the DNS lookup including:

use dc_minimaldns='true'

(Either edit /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf or use dpkg-reconfigure 
exim4-conf).


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Re: Re: OpenGL causes hard system lockups

2005-12-23 Thread Paulette & Gord Maclennan








Damon:

 

Were you able to correct your screensaver lock up problem? 
I am experiencing the same problem with an ASUS K8V-MX mobo with integrated
video.

 

Can you suggest anything that might help with the lockup
problem?

 

Paul 








Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:29:21 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yes CF is mounted on the /media/CANON_DC and it is accessed
> from /dev/sdb. So I'm able to read or write something on /dev/sdb
> which is CF that mounted on the multi card reader.
> But USB flash drive isn't RECOGNIZED yet and dmesg says nothing about
> USB flash drive.

Is the USB Flash drive formatted? I'd assume it's formatted FAT. Do you
have a windos machine to check it out?

Unplug the CF drive, since it works.

Unplug and replug the flash drive in, and dmesg again. see what it says
when you plug it in.

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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:13:33 -0600
> Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:52:28 -0600
> > > Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have tried to access with /dev/sdd and /dev/sdd1 but I couldn't
> > > >  access. When I could access to this USB flash drive on the kernel
> > > > 2.4, I saw on the /dev/sde and partition was /dev/sde1.
> > > >
> > > > Actually, that log was taken when USB drive was connected during
> > > > boot process. The log I posted below is taken when I rebooted
> > > > without USB drive.
> > >
> > > Plug the memory card in, and then in a shell type dmesg. This will
> > > tell you what debian sees being inserted. Different cards are going
> > > to be different /dev/sda /dev/sde, etc
> > >
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> > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
> > > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> > > Ben Franklin - 1759
> >
> > After I inserted CF on the multi card reader, dmesg gave this log.
> >
> > SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
> > sdb: assuming Write Enabled
> > sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
> > SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
> > sdb: assuming Write Enabled
> > sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
> >  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun1: p1
> >
> > And also CF was mounted on /media/CANON_DC. Still my USB drive won't
> > be recognized and I see no logs.
> >
> > I don't have any other media such as memory stick or SD card so I
> > can't try to see what's going to happen with other type of media.
> >
> >
> > Tatsuya Kobayashi
>
> What I see here is you need to mount /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1

Yes CF is mounted on the /media/CANON_DC and it is accessed from /dev/sdb.
So I'm able to read or write something on /dev/sdb which is CF that mounted
 on the multi card reader.
But USB flash drive isn't RECOGNIZED yet and dmesg says nothing about USB
flash drive.

>
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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:13:33 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:52:28 -0600
> > Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I have tried to access with /dev/sdd and /dev/sdd1 but I couldn't
> > >  access. When I could access to this USB flash drive on the kernel
> > > 2.4, I saw on the /dev/sde and partition was /dev/sde1.
> > >
> > > Actually, that log was taken when USB drive was connected during
> > > boot process. The log I posted below is taken when I rebooted
> > > without USB drive.
> >
> > Plug the memory card in, and then in a shell type dmesg. This will
> > tell you what debian sees being inserted. Different cards are going
> > to be different /dev/sda /dev/sde, etc
> >
> > --
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> >
> > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a
> > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
> > Ben Franklin - 1759
> 
> After I inserted CF on the multi card reader, dmesg gave this log.
> 
> SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
> sdb: assuming Write Enabled
> sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
> SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
> sdb: assuming Write Enabled
> sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
>  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun1: p1
> 
> And also CF was mounted on /media/CANON_DC. Still my USB drive won't
> be recognized and I see no logs.
> 
> I don't have any other media such as memory stick or SD card so I
> can't try to see what's going to happen with other type of media.
> 
> 
> Tatsuya Kobayashi

What I see here is you need to mount /dev/sdb or /dev/sdb1

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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:52:28 -0600
> Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have tried to access with /dev/sdd and /dev/sdd1 but I couldn't
> >  access. When I could access to this USB flash drive on the kernel
> > 2.4, I saw on the /dev/sde and partition was /dev/sde1.
> >
> > Actually, that log was taken when USB drive was connected during boot
> > process. The log I posted below is taken when I rebooted without USB
> > drive.
>
> Plug the memory card in, and then in a shell type dmesg. This will tell
> you what debian sees being inserted. Different cards are going to be
> different /dev/sda /dev/sde, etc
>
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> little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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After I inserted CF on the multi card reader, dmesg gave this log.

SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
sdb: assuming Write Enabled
sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
SCSI device sdb: 62592 512-byte hdwr sectors (32 MB)
sdb: assuming Write Enabled
sdb: assuming drive cache: write through
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun1: p1

And also CF was mounted on /media/CANON_DC. Still my USB drive won't
be recognized and I see no logs.

I don't have any other media such as memory stick or SD card so I can't
try to see what's going to happen with other type of media.


Tatsuya Kobayashi



Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:52:28 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 12/23/05, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> > > Thank you for reply me!
> > >
> > >
> > >>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:50:07 -0600
> > >>Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>>Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> > >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.01
> > >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision:
> > >>> 02
> > >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
> > >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.02
> > >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision:
> > >>> 02
> > >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
> > >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.03
> > >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision:
> > >>> 02
> > >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
> > >>>USB Mass Storage device found at 2
> > >
> > >
> > >>Did you try /dev/sdc ?
> > 
> > Umm, doesn't the above indicate that a device was found at *sdd*.
> > Does that mean one should mount /dev/sdd?
> > 
> 
> I have tried to access with /dev/sdd and /dev/sdd1 but I couldn't
>  access. When I could access to this USB flash drive on the kernel
> 2.4, I saw on the /dev/sde and partition was /dev/sde1.
> 
> Actually, that log was taken when USB drive was connected during boot 
> process. The log I posted below is taken when I rebooted without USB 
> drive.

Plug the memory card in, and then in a shell type dmesg. This will tell
you what debian sees being inserted. Different cards are going to be
different /dev/sda /dev/sde, etc

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Re: Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> > Thank you for reply me!
> >
> >
> >>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:50:07 -0600
> >>Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.01
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.02
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.03
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
> >>>USB Mass Storage device found at 2
> >
> >
> >>Did you try /dev/sdc ?
> 
> Umm, doesn't the above indicate that a device was found at *sdd*.
> Does that mean one should mount /dev/sdd?
> 

I have tried to access with /dev/sdd and /dev/sdd1 but I couldn't
 access. When I could access to this USB flash drive on the kernel 2.4,
I saw on the /dev/sde and partition was /dev/sde1.

Actually, that log was taken when USB drive was connected during boot 
process. The log I posted below is taken when I rebooted without USB 
drive.

usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v2.2
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1d.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 169
uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #1
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.0 to 64
uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: irq 169, io base e800
uhci_hcd :00:1d.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1d.1[B] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 177
uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #2
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.1 to 64
uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: irq 177, io base e880
uhci_hcd :00:1d.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1d.2[C] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 185
uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB UHCI #3
PCI: Setting latency timer of device :00:1d.2 to 64
uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: irq 185, io base ec00
uhci_hcd :00:1d.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using address 2
usb 3-1: new low speed USB device using address 2
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.00
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
ACPI: PCI interrupt :00:1d.7[D] -> GSI 23 (level, low) -> IRQ 193
ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: Intel Corp. 82801DB (ICH4) USB2 EHCI Controller
Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.01
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.02
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.03
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
USB Mass Storage device found at 2
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.

> > I tried to mount /dev/sdc but I couldn't mount it. It's still saying
> > "No medium found" or "special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist."
> > Well what else can I do to mount USB flash drive? Will the kernel
recompile
> > help to fix this problem? I know that my USB drive works on the
kernel 2.4
> > so I think I might be able to go back to kernel 2.4, but can't I
really use
> > my USB flash drive on kernel 2.6?
> 
> I had a similar problem with an external USB drive I used to use
> (Fedora Core 2). Sometimes it was detected as /dev/sda and sometimes
> as /dev/sde, so I had two entries in my fstab, one for /dev/sda1 and
> one for /dev/sde1.
> 
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Re: Mozilla 1.5 download directory

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 22:45:45 -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Richard wrote:
> 
> >2005/12/22, Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> >
> >>Hi all
> >>
> >>I am using Sid and it seems i found a bug in de latest mozilla
> >>package. I am not sure if this  is a mozilla bug or a debian package
> >>bug so i ask here if more people can confirm this. I am also using KDE
> >>and every time when i download something it is dropped in de
> >>/home/user/Desktop directory while it was before always dropped in de
> >>/home/user directory. I find it pretty annoying to mv these files
> >>every time to my home directory from the Desktop directory but it
> >>seems i can not set the Download directory in de preferences menu to
> >>/home/user. I can set it to /home or even / (but the user doesn't have
> >>write rights there) but when i set it to /home/user there is always
> >>Desktop selected. Even when the /home/user directory is already set in
> >>the about:config page.
> >>
> >>TIA
> >>
> >>Richard
> >>
> >>   
> >>
> >
> >Sorry ... I mean i am using Mozilla-Firefox 1.5
> > 
> >
> I see the same behaviour here, with FF 1.5 on KDE on Sid.

This seems to be part of a sort of creeping windozification.  Quite a
lot of apps now default to this mythical Desktop directory (with the
irritating capitalization) -- hardly the place you would want to file
everything or anything-- and a lot of others show only an even more
mythical Home directory which is actually a completely unnecessary and
annoying alias for ~/.  I don't see why there is an urge to hide the
directory structure from the users -- at the very least it imposes a few
extra mouse clicks to open 'filesystem' and then navigate to where you
want to be.

I suppose that is just another grumpy old man response...

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Re: Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Tatsuya Kobayashi
On 12/23/05, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
> > Thank you for reply me!
> >
> >
> >>On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:50:07 -0600
> >>Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.01
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.02
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
> >>>  Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.03
> >>>  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> >>>Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
> >>>USB Mass Storage device found at 2
> >
> >
> >>Did you try /dev/sdc ?
> >
> >
> > I tried to mount /dev/sdc but I couldn't mount it. It's still saying
> > "No medium found" or "special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist."
> >
> > Well what else can I do to mount USB flash drive? Will the kernel
recompile
> > help to fix this problem? I know that my USB drive works on the
kernel 2.4
> > so I think I might be able to go back to kernel 2.4, but can't I
really use
> > my USB flash drive on kernel 2.6?
> 
> what device under 2.4? multi slot readers show up as different
devices.
> for example, my usb card reader will read compact flash or ? on one
slot
> or other devices on the other slot (very late, can't think). so the cf
1
> shows up as sda1 and others as sda2. IOW, pay attention to the
different
> slots and try ALL the potential devices andnote that different things
> might show up as different partitionas rather than different devices.
> hth
> 
> A

I tried to connect digital camera's CF on this multi card reader and it 
recognized as sdb and partition was sdb1. so I think if this card reader
 got some cards, only reserved device address(I don't know how to call 
it...) is used to access. Because exact same number of devices are 
reserved on Windows XP too. And I also noticed that this card reader is 
worked with hotplug stuff. So the system mounted CF's partition on the 
some /media folder.

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Re: Question about module loading from floppy

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Friday, 23 December 2005 at 14:13:19 +0100, Marc Demlenne wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have to start a machine with rescue CD because lilo is broken. (I
> probably just have to run /sbin/lilo as root to correct this) The
> problem is that booting with rescue root=/dev/sda1 won't work because
> my drive is a RAID-5 and I need to load an extra-module to make it
> work.
> 
> I have this module on floppy, however. How can I tell Debian to load
> the module from /dev/fd0 before trying to mount root FS ?

IMHO nobody should be without a live CD such as Knoppix or Mepis or DSL
or... See http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php for a more
complete list.

Download one and boot from that.  Then mount the partition on which your
root filesystem is located and copy what you need, do any
necessary configuration (chroot into the mount if necessary).

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Re: Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Robert Kopp
--- Juergen Fiedler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:55:06AM +, Tatsuya
> Kobayashi wrote:
> [...]
> > > Did you try /dev/sdc ?
> > 
> > I tried to mount /dev/sdc but I couldn't mount it.
> It's still saying 
> > "No medium found" or "special device /dev/sdc1
> does not exist."
> 
> Have you tried using just /dev/sdc, not /dev/sdc1?
> 
One more thing: sometimes it seems that you have an
extended rather than a primary partition. I tried in
vain to mount an sda1 that actually turned out to be
an sda5.

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Re: Simple question

2005-12-23 Thread Teilhard Knight

On Tue, 2005-12-20 at 17:08 -0500, David R. Litwin wrote:

>What's the command to stop a service like gdm?

Killall. 


Or '/etc/init.d/gdm stop'


Right, thank you.

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Re: about remove directory

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 19:43:51 -0300, Gabriel wrote:
> Nevruz Mesut Sahin wrote:
> 
> >  Hello my firend I want to delete every thing inside
> >of a directory but there are more than 100.000 files.
> >I don't need any files in that directory. if I write  
> >rmdir -R /disk4/vmx/sirlo/mesut   the machina asks
> >confirmation for all files in this directory. is there
> >any one knows the command to clean mesut directory and
> >all files in it.
> >
> > 
> >
> rm -r

But, as commented on a similar thread yesterday(ish), be very careful
with rm -r x.   Make sure you are removing the right thing -- don't
hit return before you finish typing or you can remove a lot more than
you meant.

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Re: Simple question

2005-12-23 Thread Teilhard Knight

Am 2005-12-20 04:04:24, schrieb Teilhard Knight:

What's the command to stop a service like gdm?


It depends.

1)  For killing it the current bootet Computer

   /etc/init.d/gdm stop

2)  Only from the runlevel 2

   rm /etc/rc2.d/??gdm

3)  Permanently

   apt-get --purge remove gdm


Thank you very much.

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Re: broken dependencies

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 17:36:30 -0500, Nikhil Prabhakar wrote:
> Hi,
> Recently I tried to upgrade KDE from unstable repositories and faced
> with multiple broken dependencies.Is there any way out to handle this
> situation (hoping there is :-)?

I've had that particular problem on a number of occasions.  I suspect
KDE is so complex that transitions take a few days.  My solution has
always been to wait and try again every couple of days until it works.
So not really a solution but definitely a way to handle this situation.

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Re: Simple question

2005-12-23 Thread Teilhard Knight

Teilhard Knight wrote:

What's the command to stop a service like gdm?


Formally it's:

invoke-rc.d gdm stop

But everybody (including myself) uses:

/etc/init.d/gdm stop

To stop it permanently use:

update-rc.d gdm remove


Thanks a lot.

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Re: Simple question

2005-12-23 Thread Teilhard Knight

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 05:08:33PM -0500, David R. Litwin wrote:

What's the command to stop a service like gdm?

Killall.


Seems like a bad idea, unless the service is hung. Using the proper init
script would make more sense. To simply stop the service, /etc/init.d/gdm
stop
as root would do the trick. To change things so that it does not start on
the next boot, removing the symlink in the appropriate runlevel (the
default is 2, I believe) would do the trick.

If you're concerned with managing services on boot in general then I
highly recommend a program such as sysv-rc-conf or rcconf to manage the
symbolic links for you.


Actually, I needed to stop gdm only for installing a package. But you have
given me very valuable information. I appreciate your feedback.

Teilhard.


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Re: aspell error in sarge

2005-12-23 Thread Roberto Sanchez

Rodney D. Myers wrote:

For the past month I have been trying to get a friends computer working
with Sylpheed-claws & gaim, but libaspell has an ongoing error within
it.

I keep getting this error message;

sylpheed-claws: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined
symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE


gaim: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol:
_ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE

Any idea as to when this show stopping error will be fixed?



Google was not very helpful.  However, I was able to find a report of 
another Debian user encountering this problem.  The suggested solution 
was make sure that gaim-data was installed.


http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2005/03/msg01795.html

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Re: slide rule (OT) was: Question on backups using rsync

2005-12-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Thursday, 22 December 2005 at 12:50:15 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> >On Tuesday 20 December 2005 20:35, Daniel Webb wrote:
> >>(pulls out my slide ruler to figure out when it's dinner time).
> >
> >
> >Thats properly called a slide rule.  I still have one, a K&E 
> >log-log-deci-trig that still works just fine.  Does that make me a 
> >little jurassic, and probably old enough to be your grandfather?  Yup.
> 
> I *made* my first slide rule out of a manila folder, following
> directions in a book called "The Fun of Mathematics" (IIRC).

That was a good book.  I never made a slide rule but I still have a
couple somewhere.  Hemmi bamboo slide rules were the best.  Come to
that, I have a couple of lovely sorobans too, but I don't use them very
often either.

Another old fogie...

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Alternatives to polypaudio (bug #339589)

2005-12-23 Thread Andreas Ehn
Hi,

When I switched from OSS to ALSA a few years ago, I started having
problems with ESD. In particular, it often would not release the sound
device, so that non-ESD-enabled programs could use it when ESD didn't
need it.

Then I discovered polypaudio, and since I sitched to that sound daemon,
I haven't had any more problems. But now polypaudio is being removed
from Debian:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339589

Are there any other alternative ESD-compatible sound daemons that I
could try? Or does ESD work well with ALSA for everybody else?

Thanks and merry Christmas,
Andreas


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 12/23/05, Chinook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chinook wrote:
> > post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]
> >
> > There are three little items I have not been able to resolve yet though,
> > and would appreciate any pointers:
> >
> > 1)  When booting up, can the keyboard Num Lock be defaulted to On?  I
> > keep forgetting to hit the Num Lock key before any digits in passwords
> > and it's an unconscious habit to use the number pad rather than the top
> > row of the character  section of the keyboard.
>
> Yes there is a BIOS setting and BIOS turns it on, but ??? turns it off
> before one gets to the login.  /etc/console-tools/config has no effect.
>
> I did find the mentioned numlockx package and installed it.  It's a CLI
> tool,  so in what script where would I employ it*?
>

 I think you could put it in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc or
/etc/X11/Xsession to enable it
 globally. I think putting it in /home/username/.xsession would enable
for you once you
 logged in. I am a little vague which X config files (xinitrc vs
xsession)  are supposed to
 do what, so I just put stuff in them and test to see if it has the
desired effect.

> >
> > 2)  I have my BIOS quieted, but Grub (I guess) is rather verbose.  I
> > changed the setting in etc/default/rcS to VERBOSE=no but it doesn't seem
> > to make any difference :-(  Is there a way to quiet the Linux boot?
>
> MJD: I guess your comment to add "quiet splash" to the kernel command
> line in the grub config file is too general.  Maybe if you would note
> the file path and line number within the file, I might be able to catch
> up with you :-)  I found what I thought was the file but could not see
> where to edit it.

 /boot/grub/menu.lst

 look for a line like this:
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro

 and make it more like this:
 kernel  /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 root=/dev/hde1 ro quiet splash

 If there is stuff after the ro (eg vga=771) just put quiet splash at the end.
 "vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686" might be "vmlinuz-2.4.27.2-386" or some such.

 You probably don't want to do that in the section labeled (recovery mode),
 since if you need recovery mode, you probably want to see what is going
 on.


> PS:  I also meant to ask if one could switch back and forth between
> Gnome and KDE.  Rather than ask what the advantages are to me, I
> was thinking of seeing for myself what KDE is like :-)


 If you are using GDM, KDM or XDM (in other words if the boot process ends
 with a GUI instead of a command line), you should have drop down list of
 installed Window Managers/Desktop Environments.


aspell error in sarge

2005-12-23 Thread Rodney D. Myers
For the past month I have been trying to get a friends computer working
with Sylpheed-claws & gaim, but libaspell has an ongoing error within
it.

I keep getting this error message;

sylpheed-claws: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined
symbol: _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE


gaim: relocation error: /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15: undefined symbol:
_ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE

Any idea as to when this show stopping error will be fixed?

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Re: KDE 3.5

2005-12-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 23 December 2005 05:23, Mitja wrote:
>I have installed Debian Etch and for now I have a GNOME.

Oh?  Whats its name?

>I like to 
> install KDE 3.5. Is it possible and where should I find files,
> please?
>
>Mitja

Sorry, coouldn't resist.  Have a happy holiday.

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KDE 3.5

2005-12-23 Thread Mitja
I have installed Debian Etch and for now I have a GNOME. I like to install KDE 
3.5. Is it possible and where should I find files, please?

Mitja


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Evolution

2005-12-23 Thread Mitja
Hi!

I have GNOME and I use a KMail (thanks for help) as a mailer. I tried to 
uninstall Evolution but in this case Synaptics want to remove gnome and gnome 
control center. It is possible to remove it, please?

Mitja


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Mike McCarty

Chinook wrote:

Chinook wrote:


post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]


"She who must be obeyed" is happy with her Thunderbird, Firefox and card
games, but not overjoyed with my Gaelic naming scheme.  



Whoops, spoke too soon.  She is missing "hearts" that she plays with her 
 uum friends*.  I thought I found it as part of a package called 


Google is your friend. Searching for

+linux +hearts +card +game

got *several* hits.

"floater,"  but when I bring it up it only has bridge :-(  Anyway, after 
I installed it, it did not show up in a menu?  I found it with the file 
browser and can double click it, but even after a restart it is not in a 
menu???  Then there is the question that if it does not include hearts 
I'll figure out how to can it (false advertising?).
*OT At my point in life the old men sit around and talk about the 
weather and the old women sit around and talk about the old men :-)


I am aware of this phenomenon. There are small gathering halls
where the hens sit and cluck. These halls, for reasons known only
to women, are known by secret code names. One of these code names
is "Beauty Parlor". I guess they think we men can't figure out
what is really up.

[snip]

PS:  I also meant to ask if one could switch back and forth between 
Gnome and KDE.  Rather than ask what the advantages are to me, I 
was thinking of seeing for myself what KDE is like :-)


Not precisely. But one can shut down the window manager and restart the
other. Or change the user preference. Or have two user logins with
different preferences.

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apcupsd examples: nislib

2005-12-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I have just installed a Backup-UPS LS 500 and am using Sarge's apcupsd 
to control it.


Seems to work.

The example files have programs in them to communicate with apcupsd over 
 the port that it uses. But they use nislib.


That seems to be a FreeBSD tool. Anybody know how to get that, or 
recompiled those example programs?


Although the examples are in there, I see no docs as to how to compile them.

Thanks!

H


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Non-Debian content: Seasons Greetings

2005-12-23 Thread Craig M. Houck
Merry Christmas,
 Happy Hanukkah,
  Faithful Kwanza,
   Sweet Solstices
& a Fine Festavus

Remember the Reason for the Season

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Re: Automount of USB stick doesn't work

2005-12-23 Thread Rene Tschirley
Hi Andrew,

>> linux/block_class_device.c:2145: /dev/sdb1 is mounted at
>> /mnt/sdb1,major:minor=8:17,
>> fstype=vfat,udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_4241-6035
>>
>> but this damned desktop doesn't do anything like that.
> 
> WHat exactly is the problem? this says it was mounted as /mnt/sdb1. sp
> what does ls /mnt/sdb1 give you?

I'm sorry if my description is mistakable. My problem is that my
_desktop_ doesn't add the device as my _laptop_ does (which is inserts
the USB stick as /dev/sdb). The last mentionable output on my desktop is

   hald.c:81: Added device to GDL;
udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/scsi_8_0_0_0

and after that, nothing useful seems to happen. It is neither recognized
as block device not inserted as /dev/sd*. And the abnormal behaviour
starts with the message

   hal.dev [5657]: DEVNAME is not set

so what is this?


Yours,
Rene


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Re: (no subject)

2005-12-23 Thread Steve Block

On Thu, Dec 22, 2005 at 07:49:12PM -0600, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:

# help


I don't think I can.

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Re: Question about module loading from floppy

2005-12-23 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 12:08:30PM +0100, Marc Demlenne wrote:
> Your Debian CD 1, for instance, is a rescue CD as well... Juste take a
> look at the help, and try with rescue as boot image.

That was the case with woody.  But I hadn't found it to be true with
the sarge netinstall -- perhaps I just have too old a copy of sarge?
I'll try download a new one.

-- hendrik

> 
> On 23/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 01:02:50AM +0100, Marc Demlenne wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have to start a machine with rescue CD because lilo is broken. (I
> > > probably just have to run /sbin/lilo as root to correct this) The
> > > problem is that booting with rescue root=/dev/sda1 won't work because
> > > my drive is a RAID-5 and I need to load an extra-module to make it
> > > work.
> >
> > In the last few days I've heard about the so-called rescue CD.
> > Where do I get one?  My installation disks don't seem to have one.
> > Have I got the wrong version or  something?
> >
> > -- hendrik
> >


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Re: Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Juergen Fiedler
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 06:55:06AM +, Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:
[...]
> > Did you try /dev/sdc ?
> 
> I tried to mount /dev/sdc but I couldn't mount it. It's still saying 
> "No medium found" or "special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist."

Have you tried using just /dev/sdc, not /dev/sdc1?


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Re: kghostview refresh time

2005-12-23 Thread David Zelinsky
Joe Mc Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Kghostview is very useful, the way it can watch a file and refresh its
> display if the file changes.
> 
> If the file changes kghostview doesn't refresh for a few seconds.
> (Which is a long time if frequent changes are being made.)  Is there
> any way this time can be shortened ?  --help-all dosen't mention it.

I don't know anything about kghostview, but if you want to use gv
instead, which does the same thing, there is an X resource
"watchFileFrequency" which specifies the time in milliseconds between
updates, the default being 1000 (one second).  You can set it in the
file ~/.gv .  It's documented in the info intry (run "info gv").

-David


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Re: sharing a bibliography

2005-12-23 Thread Michael Marsh
On 12/23/05, Joe Mc Cool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 04:15:31AM -0700, Daniel Webb wrote:
> > Especially if you typeset mathematics, Latex makes Word and Openoffice look
> > like toys, and we're talking about a program the basis of which has been
>
> Yes, agreed.  But are they catching up ?  I am sometimes worried that
> I am investing a lot of time in something that just _might_ be
> superceeded in a few years time ?

I wouldn't worry about LaTeX going anywhere in the near future. 
Anytime you need a strong notion of sectioning or any sort of
formatting precision, a structured typesetting program like LaTeX will
win hands-down over a WYSIWYG word processor.  Just look at the way
most people format their Word/OOo documents: They take an existing
document with all of the formatting that they want, and start
replacing the actual text.  This can carry along a huge amount of
garbage, and leaves them with a substantial task if they need to
create something without an existing template.

For me, it's as simple as
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{fullpage}
\usepackage{times}

\title{My Title}
\author{My Name}

\begin{document}
\maketitle
\section{}, \subsection{}, \paragraph{}, \begin{itemize}, etc. as needed.

Numbering is always consistent, bibtex handles references almost
transparently, cross-referencing within a document is simple, and I
can throw in a \tableofcontents,
\listoffigures, or \listoftables if (and where) I need one.

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Question about module loading from floppy

2005-12-23 Thread Marc Demlenne
Hello,

I have to start a machine with rescue CD because lilo is broken. (I
probably just have to run /sbin/lilo as root to correct this) The
problem is that booting with rescue root=/dev/sda1 won't work because
my drive is a RAID-5 and I need to load an extra-module to make it
work.

I have this module on floppy, however. How can I tell Debian to load
the module from /dev/fd0 before trying to mount root FS ?

Thanks for any help !

--
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Re: sharing a bibliography

2005-12-23 Thread Joe Mc Cool
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 04:15:31AM -0700, Daniel Webb wrote:

> Latex is a huge learning investment, but if you write a lot, or are planning

Too right, I am struggling through that investment at the minute but
loving every minute of it.

> Especially if you typeset mathematics, Latex makes Word and Openoffice look
> like toys, and we're talking about a program the basis of which has been

Yes, agreed.  But are they catching up ?  I am sometimes worried that
I am investing a lot of time in something that just _might_ be
superceeded in a few years time ?

Joe


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Andrei Popescu
> Andrei Popescu:  I can't find a "splashy" package - at least in Synaptic.

It's in experimental ;) (i'm running unstable)

> > 3)  How do I put the monitor (only) to sleep after say 10 minutes of
> > inactivity.  On my Mac I do this with an Energy Saver setting and also
> > did it on the PC when it had Windoze (about the only thing it did well :-)
> 
> I tried Gnome screensaver settings - blank screen works of course but 
> does not reduce power (monitor power green light stays on instead of 
> flashing yellow).  If I set no screensaver then the screen never blanks 
> - duh :-)
> 
> The settings in /etc/console-tools/config again have no effect.
> 
> I did notice that BIOS has APM enabled (and ACPI seems to be an 
> extension of such), but in the boot config menu file APM=m (???) and 
> there is a slew of settings for ACPI.  Could this be part of the problem?

ACPI is the (supposedly better) replacement of APM. APM support should be more 
mature, ACPI should have more features. AFAIK you cannot run both. In either 
case you need at least the apmd or the acpid package installed. There are some 
CLI clients (apm, acpitool) and some daemons to control the timers. I only use 
cpudyn, to spin down the hdd (it's main function is CPU throttling).

Andrei

P.S. I hope you don't mind the CC (it got added automatically by my client). If 
you do just say so, i'll remove it next time :)


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Re: Can't switch to virtual console anymore

2005-12-23 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 22 Dec 2005, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> 

[snip] 

> Problem solved.  It turned out to be "one of those warnings I recognized."
> 
> For years, X complained that there was no XkbVariant named "Microsoft" in
> response to the line:
> 
>Section "InputDevice"
>   ...
>   Option  "XkbVariant"  "Microsoft"
>   ...
>EndSection
> 
> I'm not sure when that line appeared in my config file.  Quite possibly back
> when I was using Suse 6.1, way before I switched to Debian.  I guess I just
> "toted" the config file around, and only changed mode, horiz and vertical
> timings when configuring a new system.
> 
> The warning didn't have any adverse effect, and I always promised myself to
> look into it when time permitted me to delve into learning the nitty gritty
> details of keyboards under X.
> 
> There always seemed to be more pressing issues.  And besides, it's difficult
> to get excited about learning details of keyboards under X.  It seems more
> complicated than it ought to be.  And dry.
> 
> Short story is, that line always caused a benign warning.
> 
> Since I was (potentially) having trouble with the keyboard, I started to
> scrutinize the X output, even looking at things which I didn't think had
> relevence to the problem at hand.  That trained my eye on the warning.
> 
> I'm not sure what got upgraded yesterday, but whatever it was, that warning
> apparently was no longer benign.  I removed the XbdVariant, and now
> everything is back to normal.
> 
> Pete


This is not the only possible cause. In my case what was needed was to
include the following line under "InputDevice" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf:

 Option "XkbDisable""true"

No idea why.


Anthony


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Problem installing kde 3.5.0 on sid

2005-12-23 Thread Philippe Grenard
Hi all, 

I have some kind of problem : 
I've added alioth repositories to my sources.list
but when I do an apt-get dist-upgrade, no package from kde are upgraded ...
When I try with aptitude, it shows that every 3.5.0 package is from an 
"Untrusted source" 

Well, I could install this by hand, but I believe it's not really satisfying 
(without talking about the time it will need). I've seen something maybe 
about apt-key ?
Do I need to configure apt-key? (and How if I don't find it in the man page?)
where can I find alioth pkg-kde key if there is one ? (I didn't find any 
Realease.gpg on alioth server...)

I believe I'm missing one or two steps...
anyone could give me hints please?

Thanks

Philippe


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Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2005 #3025

2005-12-23 Thread michael

> > > I was thinking about using the bibliography 'database' in OpenOffice to
> > > store all my references (and to include short notes such as 'read/not
> > > read', 'contains vital info on XY and Z'). But I need to share said info
> > > across machines, generally Debian but not the same versions of
> > > OpenOffice but preferably something totally portable. Any ideas on how
> > > to do this (I can never find 'how to share between users/machines' type
> > > answers in OOo)?
> > 
> > Not sure I understand your needs, but the best Free bibliography manager 
> > right
> > now is jabref (speaking as a graduate student who uses it daily and loves 
> > it).  

mm... not sure which Java SDK is required for this... the Debian/Java
FAQ just confuses me!


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Re: Sarge kernel update, using newer kernel, should I update older kernel?

2005-12-23 Thread Joris Huizer

Laszlo wrote:



Is it ok to install this patch or perform this upgrade to 2.6.8 while running 
2.6.11-k7 or do I need to boot into the 2.6.8 kernel before patching/ 
upgrading?


Thanks, 
-- Laszlo

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Doing so using the 2.6.11-k7 should not be a problem; I don't think 
it'll make a difference for apt what the running kernel is, as long as 
apt does not want to remove the running kernel :-)


HTH

Joris


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Re: unsubscribe

2005-12-23 Thread Björn Lindström
"David E. Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> b) The filter could catch something it shouldn't, such as someone
>> asking for aptitude help but using the subject "unsubscribe" to do it.
>
> If you don't filter simply on subject, you have to filter on body, and
> then it gets hairy. Over on the mandriva lists, there were whole sets
> of words that you could not use -- or had to misp3ll :) in order to
> get past the filter. I've had a few messages bounce because of their
> filters, and I'm a fairly light poster, although I tend to lurk a lot.

Mailman already has a feature like this, which works very well. I doubt
it would be that hard to implement.


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Re: sharing a bibliography

2005-12-23 Thread Daniel Webb
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 10:02:44AM +, michael wrote:

> Sorry for not being clear. I want a place to store my refs, that I can
> access (ie both read the refs but also cut'n'paste into Linux/OpenOffice
> and Windoze/Word) from several machines (if that means copying the
> database about that is okay). also like to be able to save my notes
> alongside the author/title/journal etc.
> 
> Now looking at Jabref - trying to work out if you can very easily copy
> refs into OpenOffice?

Ah, well, I'm not sure.  I have always used it with Latex/Bibtex.  You'll
notice in the Jabref window where a reference is edited, there is a
"bibtexkey" field.  Supposing the bibtexkey for an article is
"bob:95:pumpkin".  Within a Latex document, I just put \cite{bob:95:pumpkin}
and it inserts a citation, then adds a perfect entry into the references.  For
a large document (like a dissertation), this is wonderful.

Latex is a huge learning investment, but if you write a lot, or are planning
on writing something very large, like a dissertation, I think it's worth it.
Especially if you typeset mathematics, Latex makes Word and Openoffice look
like toys, and we're talking about a program the basis of which has been
around since before Windows or Linux existed.  There are warts and annoyances,
though.

Looking at Jabref now, it looks to me like the small display window at the
bottom would be good for cut-and-pasting.  Let us know how it works.


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how to use pcmcia memory cards???

2005-12-23 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello!

tryed to mount a SD card of a Casio photo-camera... without success so
far...

my laptop has an inbuild SD-card adapter which is in fact (as i found
out) linked to the pcmcia system...

inserting the card the first time, i got the negation beep...

looking into the log i found :
unknown device...

i added a block to the config file:
card "RICOH Bay1Controller"
  version  "RICOH", "Bay1Controller"
  bind "memory_cs"

and got after that:

Dec 23 11:18:28 shooka cardmgr[6017]: socket 0: RICOH Bay1Controller
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka kernel: 2.6. kernels use pcmciamtd instead of
memory_cs.c and do not require special
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka kernel: MTD handling any more.
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka cardmgr[6017]: executing: 'modprobe memory_cs
2>&1'
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka cardmgr[6017]: + FATAL: Module memory_cs not
found.
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka cardmgr[6017]: modprobe exited with status 1
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka cardmgr[6017]: module
/lib/modules/2.6.14-2-686/pcmcia/memory_cs.o not available
Dec 23 11:18:29 shooka cardmgr[6017]: bind 'memory_cs' to socket 0
failed: Invalid argument
Dec 23 11:18:33 shooka cardmgr[6017]: executing: 'modprobe -r memory_cs
2>&1'
Dec 23 11:18:33 shooka cardmgr[6017]: + FATAL: Module memory_cs not
found.
Dec 23 11:18:33 shooka cardmgr[6017]: modprobe exited with status 1

ok, read the warning that memory_cs is deprecated (would have been nice
having it there anyway), tryed to locate the pcmciamtd thing...

added to the config file:
device "pcmciamtd" 
   class "memory" module "pcmciamtd"

and changed in the /etc/pcmcia/ricoh.conf to
card "RICOH Bay1Controller"
  version  "RICOH", "Bay1Controller"
  bind "pcmciamtd"

no luck:
Dec 23 10:47:32 shooka kernel: pcmciamtd: PCMCIA Flash memory card
driver $Revision: 1.51 $
Dec 23 10:47:32 shooka kernel: JEDEC: Found no RICOH Bay1Controller
device at location zero
Dec 23 10:47:32 shooka kernel: CFI: Found no RICOH Bay1Controller device
at location zero
Dec 23 10:47:33 shooka cardmgr[4423]: get dev info on socket 0 failed:
Resource temporarily unavailable

manually stopping the pcmcia system and trying to unload the module
gives:
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: [ cut here ]
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: kernel BUG at
drivers/mtd/maps/pcmciamtd.c:878!
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: invalid operand:  [#1]
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: Modules linked in: cfi_probe jedec_probe
gen_probe pcmciamtd mtdcore chipreg i915 drm parport_pc lp parport
thermal fan button processor ac battery ipv6 pcmcia sr_mod sbp2 scsi_mod
eth1394 usbhid ipw2200 firmware_class joydev 8139cp ieee80211
ieee80211_crypt ohci1394 ieee1394 8139too yenta_socket rsrc_nonstatic
pcmcia_core mii snd_intel8x0 snd_intel8x0m snd_ac97_codec snd_ac97_bus
snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss i2c_i801 snd_pcm ide_cd snd_timer uhci_hcd
cdrom intel_agp agpgart rtc i2c_core snd soundcore serio_raw pcspkr
usbcore snd_page_alloc ext3 jbd mbcache ide_disk ide_generic generic
piix ide_core evdev mousedev psmouse
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: CPU:0
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: EIP:0060:[pg0+512339930/1069777920]
Not tainted VLI
Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: EFLAGS: 00010286   (2.6.14-2-686) 
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: EIP is at exit_pcmciamtd+0x1a/0x24
  [pcmciamtd]
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: eax: d0eb7c00   ebx: 0880   ecx:
  c01ce720   edx: deb8fad4
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: esi: dec63180   edi:    ebp:
  dc856000   esp: dc857f58
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: ds: 007b   es: 007b   ss: 0068
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: Process rmmod (pid: 5848,
  threadinfo=dc856000 task=d0bf1030)
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: Stack: dec62df4 c013508c dec63180
  0880 dc857fa8 636d6370 746d6169 d2370064 
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel:dd731124 d0bdbddc b7f69000
  b7f6a000 d0bdbddc d237f280 d237f2b0 b7f69000 
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel:dc856000 c0153700 d237f280
  00f69000  bfd7c4b0 bfd7c4b0 0003 
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: Call Trace:
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel:  [sys_delete_module+332/400]
  sys_delete_module+0x14c/0x190
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel:  [sys_munmap+80/128]
  sys_munmap+0x50/0x80
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel:  [syscall_call+7/11]
  syscall_call+0x7/0xb
  Dec 23 10:57:40 shooka kernel: Code: e8 fc fe ff ff eb d5 90 90 00 00
  00 00 00 00 00 00 83 ec 04 c7 04 24 e0 2d c6 de e8 d1 53 f2 ff a1 c0
  32 c6 de 85 c0 75 02 59 c3 <0f> 0b 6e 03 68 11 c6 de 59 c3 00 00 00 00
  20 00 50 43 4d 43 49 

send a bug report for the kernel 2.6.14-2-686 for that one...

any hint welcome on how to get that card mounted...

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Re: sharing a bibliography

2005-12-23 Thread michael

> > 
> > > I was thinking about using the bibliography 'database' in OpenOffice to
> > > store all my references (and to include short notes such as 'read/not
> > > read', 'contains vital info on XY and Z'). But I need to share said info
> > > across machines, generally Debian but not the same versions of
> > > OpenOffice but preferably something totally portable. Any ideas on how
> > > to do this (I can never find 'how to share between users/machines' type
> > > answers in OOo)?
> > 
> > Not sure I understand your needs, but the best Free bibliography manager 
> > right
> > now is jabref (speaking as a graduate student who uses it daily and loves 
> > it).  

Sorry for not being clear. I want a place to store my refs, that I can
access (ie both read the refs but also cut'n'paste into Linux/OpenOffice
and Windoze/Word) from several machines (if that means copying the
database about that is okay). also like to be able to save my notes
alongside the author/title/journal etc.

Now looking at Jabref - trying to work out if you can very easily copy
refs into OpenOffice?

Ta, M


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 03:25:56AM -0500, Chinook wrote:
> Chinook wrote:
> >post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]
> >
> 
> Whoops, spoke too soon.  She is missing "hearts" that she plays with her 
>  uum friends*.  I thought I found it as part of a package called 
> "floater,"  but when I bring it up it only has bridge :-(  Anyway, after 
Linux hearts card game on Google shows two good entries at the top.

One appears to be a project started this year: the other is about 9
years old on freshmeat. Those might be a good start to look at.
> I installed it, it did not show up in a menu?  I found it with the file 
> browser and can double click it, but even after a restart it is not in a 
> menu???  Then there is the question that if it does not include hearts 
> I'll figure out how to can it (false advertising?).

Menu system not infallible: is it under Debian -> apps -> games or
entertainment?  To remove a package - apt-get remove floater

> 
> Andrew M.A. Cater:  I checked the various BOINC and client boards and 
> there are a lot of participants running the new BOINC on the latest 
> stable Debian.  There does seem to be some classic [EMAIL PROTECTED] people 
> that are 
> disgruntled - not something I want to get into :-)
> 
Good - glad you can get it going :)

> >
> >There are three little items I have not been able to resolve yet though,
> >and would appreciate any pointers:
> >
> >1)  When booting up, can the keyboard Num Lock be defaulted to On?  I
> >keep forgetting to hit the Num Lock key before any digits in passwords
> >and it's an unconscious habit to use the number pad rather than the top
> >row of the character  section of the keyboard.
> 
> Yes there is a BIOS setting and BIOS turns it on, but ??? turns it off 
> before one gets to the login.  /etc/console-tools/config has no effect.
> 
> I did find the mentioned numlockx package and installed it.  It's a CLI 
> tool,  so in what script where would I employ it*?
> 
numlockx - works under X windows : if you start it in your X session
start up scripts, then you'd have full numlock control if working in X.
[Doesn't work for command line in a virtual terminal as far as I can
see.] I still think it's probably a BIOS setting overall / a
console-tools setting.

> *OT  Careful what you're thinking - this old man ain't completely brain 
> dead :-))  and I have searched though obviously not enough :-(
> 
> the file path and line number within the file, I might be able to catch 
> up with you :-)  I found what I thought was the file but could not see 
> where to edit it.
> 
Start with /boot/grub/menu.lst perhaps? Not sure here.

> I tried Gnome screensaver settings - blank screen works of course but 
> does not reduce power (monitor power green light stays on instead of 
> flashing yellow).  If I set no screensaver then the screen never blanks 
> - duh :-)
> 
> The settings in /etc/console-tools/config again have no effect.
> 
> I did notice that BIOS has APM enabled (and ACPI seems to be an 
> extension of such), but in the boot config menu file APM=m (???) and 
> there is a slew of settings for ACPI.  Could this be part of the problem?
> 
modprobe apm ; aptitude install apmd ? [Or similarly for acpi] ??

HTH,
> 
> >
> >Thank you for your patience,
> >Lee C
> >
> 
> Twice over,
> Lee C
> 
> 
> PS:  I also meant to ask if one could switch back and forth between 
> Gnome and KDE.  Rather than ask what the advantages are to me, I 
> was thinking of seeing for myself what KDE is like :-)
> 
If you have a boot manager (gdm/kdm) running - select under Session

All the best,

Andy

[Someone presumably used to British English, I can't imagine a non-Brit
referring to themselves as an old fart :) ]


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Re: Automount of USB stick doesn't work

2005-12-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West



Rene Tschirley wrote:


and finally:

linux/block_class_device.c:2145: /dev/sdb1 is mounted at 
/mnt/sdb1,major:minor=8:17, 
fstype=vfat,udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/block_4241-6035

but this damned desktop doesn't do anything like that.


WHat exactly is the problem? this says it was mounted as /mnt/sdb1. sp 
what does ls /mnt/sdb1 give you?


A


Anybody with a hint or suggestion?


Yours,
Rene






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Re: USB flash drive problem

2005-12-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West



Tatsuya Kobayashi wrote:

Thank you for reply me!



On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:50:07 -0600
Tatsuya Kobayashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0
 Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.01
 Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdb at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 1
 Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.02
 Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 2
 Vendor: eMModel: Bay ReaderRev: 1.03
 Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Attached scsi removable disk sdd at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 3
USB Mass Storage device found at 2




Did you try /dev/sdc ?



I tried to mount /dev/sdc but I couldn't mount it. It's still saying 
"No medium found" or "special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist."


Well what else can I do to mount USB flash drive? Will the kernel recompile 
help to fix this problem? I know that my USB drive works on the kernel 2.4 
so I think I might be able to go back to kernel 2.4, but can't I really use 
my USB flash drive on kernel 2.6?


what device under 2.4? multi slot readers show up as different devices. 
for example, my usb card reader will read compact flash or ? on one slot 
or other devices on the other slot (very late, can't think). so the cf 1 
shows up as sda1 and others as sda2. IOW, pay attention to the different 
slots and try ALL the potential devices andnote that different things 
might show up as different partitionas rather than different devices.

hth

A



Thank you
Tatsuya Kobayashi





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Re: unsubscribe

2005-12-23 Thread Andrew Sackville-West



Björn Lindström wrote:

bilbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:



As it was said before. They still manage to read that you should type
unsubscribe as a subject. So how to teach them to read 'til the end..?


well, that's not a bad idea.
A



How about putting a link to the web interface for unsubscribing in the
footer, instead of the current instructions?





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Re: ALSA keeps going away

2005-12-23 Thread J.A. de Vries
On 2005-12-21 @ 23:25:19 (week 51) John and Holly Klug wrote:

> Every time I run alsaconf, ALSA comes back.  When I reboot, it goes 
> away.  Sounds from the gnome desktop always work fine.

Some time ago I had a similar problem. It was caused by the order in
which the sound devices in my system  were recognized by ALSA. All I had
to do to solve it was create an appropriate .asoundrc in ~. Afterwards I
found out you can use asoundconf to do this for you.

HTH

Grx HdV


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resin.

2005-12-23 Thread Mauro Sanna
Hi.
Someone here is using resin in a debian stable system?
I've serious problems on installing resin, create mod_caucho for apache2 
and run it.
With tomcat I've had various performances problems and crashes.
Resin seems more stable but there isn't any debian package.
I need help.


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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Chinook

I also forgot to ask ...

(I know you're thinking won't this old fart go to bed)

When I installed some more packages with Synaptic it said two potential 
updates were not selected (can't remember the exact wording).  Looking 
at the two in the list, they were kernel-image-2.4.27.2-386 and mdadm, 
both of which seemed to have the same new and old version numbers.


I left them alone (at least for the moment), but what's the story here?
Should I or shouldn't I? (how many times in life have I asked myself 
that question :-)


Thanks again,
Lee C
"Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it's regret for 
the things we didn't do that is inconsolable." -- Sydney J. Harris



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Re: post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]

2005-12-23 Thread Chinook

Chinook wrote:

post install tidbits? [was Help with Linux selection please?]


"She who must be obeyed" is happy with her Thunderbird, Firefox and card
games, but not overjoyed with my Gaelic naming scheme.  


Whoops, spoke too soon.  She is missing "hearts" that she plays with her 
 uum friends*.  I thought I found it as part of a package called 
"floater,"  but when I bring it up it only has bridge :-(  Anyway, after 
I installed it, it did not show up in a menu?  I found it with the file 
browser and can double click it, but even after a restart it is not in a 
menu???  Then there is the question that if it does not include hearts 
I'll figure out how to can it (false advertising?).
*OT At my point in life the old men sit around and talk about the 
weather and the old women sit around and talk about the old men :-)



I'm not ready to
put up GNUstep yet, but I am going to try to get BOINC going again on
the PC before I get back to my Mac development.  No point in wasting all
that idle time.


I put up GNUstep, but have not had time to check it out yet.

Andrew M.A. Cater:  I checked the various BOINC and client boards and 
there are a lot of participants running the new BOINC on the latest 
stable Debian.  There does seem to be some classic [EMAIL PROTECTED] people that are 
disgruntled - not something I want to get into :-)




There are three little items I have not been able to resolve yet though,
and would appreciate any pointers:

1)  When booting up, can the keyboard Num Lock be defaulted to On?  I
keep forgetting to hit the Num Lock key before any digits in passwords
and it's an unconscious habit to use the number pad rather than the top
row of the character  section of the keyboard.


Yes there is a BIOS setting and BIOS turns it on, but ??? turns it off 
before one gets to the login.  /etc/console-tools/config has no effect.


I did find the mentioned numlockx package and installed it.  It's a CLI 
tool,  so in what script where would I employ it*?


*OT  Careful what you're thinking - this old man ain't completely brain 
dead :-))  and I have searched though obviously not enough :-(




2)  I have my BIOS quieted, but Grub (I guess) is rather verbose.  I
changed the setting in etc/default/rcS to VERBOSE=no but it doesn't seem
to make any difference :-(  Is there a way to quiet the Linux boot?


MJD: I guess your comment to add "quiet splash" to the kernel command 
line in the grub config file is too general.  Maybe if you would note 
the file path and line number within the file, I might be able to catch 
up with you :-)  I found what I thought was the file but could not see 
where to edit it.


Andrei Popescu:  I can't find a "splashy" package - at least in Synaptic.



3)  How do I put the monitor (only) to sleep after say 10 minutes of
inactivity.  On my Mac I do this with an Energy Saver setting and also
did it on the PC when it had Windoze (about the only thing it did well :-)


I tried Gnome screensaver settings - blank screen works of course but 
does not reduce power (monitor power green light stays on instead of 
flashing yellow).  If I set no screensaver then the screen never blanks 
- duh :-)


The settings in /etc/console-tools/config again have no effect.

I did notice that BIOS has APM enabled (and ACPI seems to be an 
extension of such), but in the boot config menu file APM=m (???) and 
there is a slew of settings for ACPI.  Could this be part of the problem?





Thank you for your patience,
Lee C



Twice over,
Lee C


PS:  I also meant to ask if one could switch back and forth between 
Gnome and KDE.  Rather than ask what the advantages are to me, I 
was thinking of seeing for myself what KDE is like :-)






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