problem chroot-ing apache2 in debian 3.1
Hi all. I'm new to Debian. I did try to find a solution on google and the archives of this mailing list. neither worked. Here is the problem: I followed the linux.com tutorial on chrooting apache (http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=04/05/24/1450203) but at the end when I get to start apache it doesn't work: #/etc/init.d/apache2 start Starting apache: chroot: cannot run command `/usr/sbin/apache2ctl': No such file or directory I know that I have both the normal root /usr/sbin/apache2ctl and the chroot directory one /chroot/httpd/usr/sbin/apache2ctl. So, I hope someone can help me out. Thanks, -Gezim P.S.: During this attempt I tried to create some documentation for the future, so this might help as to where I might have gone wrong: CHROOTING APACHE (debian 3.1) 1.) If "apache" group or something similar (e.g. www-data) to run apache doesn't exit, add one with "groupadd apache". 2.) If "apache" user or something similar (e.g www-data) to run apache doesn't exist, add one with: "useradd -c "Apache Server" -d /dev/null -g apache -s \ /bin/false apache" 3.) Now create the directory structure: mkdir /chroot mkdir /chroot/httpd/ mkdir /chroot/httpd/dev/ mkdir /chroot/httpd/lib/ mkdir /chroot/httpd/etc mkdir -p /chroot/httpd/usr/sbin/ mkdir /chroot/httpd/usr/lib mkdir /chroot/httpd/usr/libexec mkdir -p /chroot/httpd/var/run mkdir -p /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache mkdir -p /chroot/httpd/home/httpd Now fix the permissions: chown -R root /chroot/httpd/ chmod -R 0755 /chroot/httpd chmod 750 /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache Now create special devices such as /dev/null: mknod /chroot/httpd/dev/null c 1 3 chown root.sys /chroot/httpd/dev/null chmod 666 /chroot/httpd/dev/null 4.) Copy the configuartion files: cp -r /etc/apache2/ /chroot/httpd/etc 5.) Copy Apache DocumentRoot and CGI scripts: cp -r /var/www/ /chroot/httpd/var/ 6.) Copy httpd binary (and, if you use them, the Apache scripts) from /usr/sbin: cp /usr/sbin/apache2* /chroot/httpd/usr/sbin/ 7.) If you need to use mod_ssl copy the /etc/ssl directory and its contents. 8.) Run "ldd /chroot/httpd/usr/sbin/apache2" to find out what libraries apache needs and copy them too. 8.5) Certain libraries are needed for some standard networking functionaliy: cp /lib/libnss_compat* /chroot/httpd/lib/ cp /lib/libnss_dns* /chroot/httpd/lib/ cp /lib/libnss_files* /chroot/httpd/lib/ cp /lib/libnsl* /chroot/httpd/lib/ 9.) Copy passwd and group files: cp /etc/passwd /chroot/httpd/etc/ cp /etc/group /chroot/httpd/etc/ 10.) Remove all users from /chroot/httpd/etc/passwd execpt www-data. 11.) Remove all groups from /chroot/httpd/etc/group except www-data. 12.) Copy needed network configuration files: cp /etc/hosts/ /chroot/httpd/etc/ cp /etc/host.conf /chroot/httpd/etc/ cp /etc/resolv.conf /chroot/httpd/etc/ cp /etc/nsswitch.conf /chroot/httpd/etc/ 13.) For extra security set the immutable bit on for above files: chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/hosts chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/host.conf chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/resolv.conf chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/nsswitch.conf chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/passwd chattr +i /chroot/httpd/etc/group 14.) Copy the appropriate localtime to to /chroot/httpd/etc/localtime: cp /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Mountain /chroot/httpd/etc/localtime 15.) In /etc/init.d/syslogd change SYSLOGD="" to SYSLOGD="-m 0 -a /chroot/httpd/dev/log" 16.) Create necessary log files and set the appendable bit on them: touch /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache/access_log touch /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache/error_log chmod 600 /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache/* chattr +a /chroot/httpd/var/log/apache/* 17.) In /etc/init.d/apache2 change: APACHE2="$ENV /usr/sbin/apache2" APACHE2CTL="$ENV /usr/sbin/apache2ctl" to APACHE2="$ENV /usr/sbin/chroot /chroot/httpd/ /usr/sbin/apache2" APACHE2CTL="$ENV /usr/sbin/chroot /chroot/httpd/ /usr/sbin/apache2ctl" 18.) Test it by shutting down the apache2ctl (if not done so already). Restart the syslogd by: /etc/init.d/syslogd restart then start the chrooted version of apache: no wokring! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unstable XORG upgrade ..
On 13/04/06, alan bonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I wish to confirm reports of teething problems by recent posters.I'm running unstable and carried out my usual upgrade and dist-upgrade,noticing xserver would be removed and many xorg modules installed. On reboot, I had no xserver - big problem with key documents on AbiWord.On ' apt-get install xserver-org' I had X up again but cannot open any X based apps(AbiW, Epiphany) and it is unstable with gnome terminals from other workspaces continually cycling through whichever one I have selected. Out of curiosity, are you running KDE? Are these applications you speak of using GTK? I know that I had problems with GTK in KDE. Once I upgraded to the latest xserver-xorg-core package, the problem resolved itself. If indeed this is the case for you, you aren't the only one. -- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
unstable XORG upgrade ..
Hi, I wish to confirm reports of teething problems by recent posters.I'm running unstable and carried out my usual upgrade and dist-upgrade,noticing xserver would be removed and many xorg modules installed. On reboot, I had no xserver - big problem with key documents on AbiWord.On ' apt-get install xserver-org' I had X up again but cannot open any X based apps(AbiW, Epiphany) and it is unstable with gnome terminals from other workspaces continually cycling through whichever one I have selected. I've had to copy my documents to the WinXP partition to get something done.I hope it gets fixed soon.Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: How can I delete Evolution?
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:52:33PM +0300, Eugen Rahaian wrote: > Hi, > > This is a reply to message > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg01170.html > (I was not on the list) > > Kev wrote in the above message: > >Hi *, > >after a converstaion on #debian, I found out info about these > >meta-packages: > >gnome > gnome-desktop-environment > gnome-core and > > >gnome-desktop-environment has a dependency for evolution. > > >So you can remove gnome-desktop-environment, install gnome-core and just > >remember to add stuff that gnome-core does not have that you want to > >keep up to date. > > >Cheers, > >Kev > > I was going to delete gnome-desktop-environment but when I simulated it: > > # apt-get -s remove gnome-desktop-environment > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED > gnome gnome-desktop-environment > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 165 not upgraded. > Remv gnome [1:2.12.2.2] > Remv gnome-desktop-environment [1:2.12.2.2] > > ... apt is removing gnome package also, because gnome depends on > gnome-desktop-environment. > > Is there a *simple* way to remove gnome-desktop-environment, so I can > remove Evolution and anything else I want? If not, I would just leave it > there. Hi Eugen, you seem confused. What you described above is exactly what I said would happen and this is what I want to happen to solve your problem. step 1. apt-get remove gnome-desktop-environment this removes 2 meta-packages. notice that it does not remove the 50+ packages, and the size of 'gnome' and 'gnome-desktop-environment' are less than 500kb in size. Removing these 2 packages will allow you to remove evolution with no problem. step 2. apt-get remove evolution step 3. apt-get install gnome-core this makes sure that you have a least the basic gnome packages. This will solve your problem. Not sure what else needs explaining. Cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: X error : Major opcode: 151
On 12/04/06, Laura Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: I just used aptitude to upgrade my debian/unstable box (the previousfull update was on 2006-03-19), and then several graphical programsare now having one same error. For some it is fatal, for some it onlyprints an error report. These errors don't happen _at all_ when I launch windowmaker insteadof kde, and I absolutely don't know if this problem is specific to mybox, or due to a bug in a package (and then which package..)Just in case it could be hardware-related, my video card is a nvidia GeForce2 with 32MB RAM, and my screen is set to 1680x1050 (16bpp), I'musing latest xorg server, with nv driver.Here are the reports from a few various programs, hoping someone mightpoint me in the right direction : -- firefox and thunderbird : crashes on launch with :The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.This probably reflects a bug in the program.The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 418 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)-- gqview : crashes on launch,The program 'gqview' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program.The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 143 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23)etc.-- "gimp --verbose" starts OK, until I click "open" then crashes The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 19546 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23)- knode : reports errors, works normallyX Error: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) 1 Major opcode: 151 Minor opcode: 23 Resource id: 0x3e4it seems all KDE apps work (printing a few of those reports along theway), as overall my kde desktop and usual kde apps appear unaffected. I had the same trouble. Upgrading to the latest xserver-xorg-core solves this (well, it did for me). I do not know how to link to my thread; You shall have to search the archive if you wish to find it. The thread is Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link. -- —A watched bread-crumb never boils.—My hover-craft is full of eels.—[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: Help with Hardware {Not Debian Specific}
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:26:05AM +, Lynn Kilroy wrote: > My machine has twin WD1600JS SATA RAID hard drives. I have them setup to > mirror each other, but I find them unreliable and I suspect heat trouble > because they get really hot to the touch. Sorry, I don't have any specific advice, but a few quick followup questions: How old are the drives? Why do you find them unreliable? Do the heat troubles affect both of them? Do any other components seem to overheat as well? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:54:31PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 12:41, Barbara Oncay wrote: > > I have been trying to unsubscribe with no success. > > I have sent more than 10 e-mails with no response. > > I have used the cancel link but it only sends me to a link where I am > > directed to subscribe to a link. TELLL ME HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE OR I WILL > > CONTACT THE FCC. There are others who can't seem to unsubscribe. > > Follow the instructions at the end of every list message, including this one. > > Also, don't threaten people who have the means to find out where you work and > publicize your stupidity in the international press. > Hi D-u regulars, this may be a new candidate for 'Tuttle,Ok' page on wikipedia.org x-) 2 'Tuttle's is one year! cheers, Kev -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal | debian.home.pipeline.com | | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keysever: pgp.mit.edu | my NPO: cfsg.org | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: su and X question
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 09:06:45PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Try sudo instead, and better to use the simplest software possible when > running as root... there are plenty of console editors, I suggest one of > those as your editor while root. There's also sudoedit(1), which invokes your editor of choice on a temporary copy of the file. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
paaswd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
Dear Debian users! Kindly ask for your help re. following problem (I am rather new in this buisness). Here at the college I want to set up a server -client system using nis. So far things work, but when it comes to changing passwords for any user, say user funny, as follows [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ yppasswd Changing password for funny (current) UNIX password: passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. The subsequent configuration seems to be all right -- Any help is appreciated, Alexander. NIS - Server configuration: linux:~# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # If you have the `glibc-doc' and `info' packages installed, try: # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file. passwd: files nis group: files nis shadow: files nis hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis in the file "/etc/default/nis" I set "NISSERVER=master" and "NISCLIENT=false" then "/etc/init.d/nis restart" finally, linux:~# ps -ef | grep yp root 15916 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypserv root 15917 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.yppasswdd -D /etc -e chsh root 15921 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.ypxfrd so, everything seems to work here. For the NIS -CLIENT: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/yp.conf ypserver linux.school.com in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow I added "+::", "+:::", and "+" respectively. the file /etc/nsswitch is identical to that at the server . Finally I checked [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat -h linux passwd funny:x:1004:1004:funny3,,,:/home/funny3:/bin/bash and [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -ef | grep yp root 2529 1 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2530 2529 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2531 2530 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2532 2530 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind so, everthing seems to be working, user funny can log on the client but not change his password. Please what did I do wrong? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Friday 14 April 2006 08:21, Michael M. wrote: > S. M. Ibrahim wrote: > > On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > >> I also upgraded sid. > >> I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard > > > > You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. > > Why? What changed today? I upgraded yesterday to Xorg 7.0 without a > single thing going wrong. > > But I'm not using KDE or KDM. Perhaps the problems with the new X are > only KDE related. > > -- Sorry for this post. I tell him (L.V.Gandhi) to make dist-upgrade now, as i found that, at the first upgrade you may not get xserver-xorg 7.1 . I tested this on one of my pc. After that, when i make apt-get update and check the cache policy of xserver-xorg , i found 7.1 version is waiting for upgrade. -- S. M. Ibrahim (Lavlu) HomePage: http://lavluda.tripod.com Blog: http://lavluda.blogspot.com Cute Picture: http://cutepicture.blogspot.com Yahoo: lavluda MSN: lavluda Skype: lavluda pgpaZTiMbGpON.pgp Description: PGP signature
paaswd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
Dear Debian users! Kindly ask for your help re. following problem (I am rather new in this buisness). Here at the college I want to set up a server -client system using nis. So far things work, but when it comes to changing passwords for any user, say user funny, as follows [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ yppasswd Changing password for funny (current) UNIX password: passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info. The subsequent configuration seems to be all right -- Any help is appreciated, Alexander. NIS - Server configuration: linux:~# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality. # If you have the `glibc-doc' and `info' packages installed, try: # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file. passwd: files nis group: files nis shadow: files nis hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis in the file "/etc/default/nis" I set "NISSERVER=master" and "NISCLIENT=false" then "/etc/init.d/nis restart" finally, linux:~# ps -ef | grep yp root 15916 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypserv root 15917 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.yppasswdd -D /etc -e chsh root 15921 1 0 11:05 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/rpc.ypxfrd so, everything seems to work here. For the NIS -CLIENT: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/yp.conf ypserver linux.school.com in /etc/passwd, /etc/group, /etc/shadow I added "+::", "+:::", and "+" respectively. the file /etc/nsswitch is identical to that at the server . Finally I checked [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat -h linux passwd funny:x:1004:1004:funny3,,,:/home/funny3:/bin/bash and [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ps -ef | grep yp root 2529 1 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2530 2529 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2531 2530 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind root 2532 2530 0 11:43 ?00:00:00 /usr/sbin/ypbind so, everthing seems to be working, user funny can log on the client but not change his password. Please what did I do wrong? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
Michael M. wrote: S. M. Ibrahim wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I also upgraded sid. I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. Why? What changed today? I upgraded yesterday to Xorg 7.0 without a single thing going wrong. But I'm not using KDE or KDM. Perhaps the problems with the new X are only KDE related. Definitely not. I have a laptop running only IceWM that still isn't running X. The current message I get is: [drm] failed to load kernel module "mach64" I have already dealt with a temporary problem with the synaptics touchpad driver. Paul Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Thursday 13 April 2006 19:31, Katipo wrote: > >What's the matter? Truth hurt too much? > > I, for one, am sick and tired of seeing these digs at our American > friends who are struggling, in their national adolescence, for a sense > of identity. You are aware I'm an American citizen by birth, right? Sometimes, you have to laugh to keep from crying. Especially since this administration changed how the draft works: Half the population, myself included, is now draftable until age 35 instead of age 28 now just because we have a penis. If our president is to be believed, I have good reason not to plan on living that long, and it's only a matter if I get killed against my will in a foreign country courtesy of my own government, or killed by foreign terrorists in my country because of it's collective ineptitude. > We need to be grown up about it, and allow them their attempts at > self-establishment in their misspellings and other foibles, so in time > they can find their way to their maturity. If the current administration decides not to only run one name on the ballot in 2008 or destroy itself before then, you might be right. On the other hand, we have the collective force California working against us on the maturity and economic prosperity thing; they're a net drain on pretty much everything in a four state radius that isn't protected by a border crossing. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgppY5WzhG80s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Thursday 13 April 2006 17:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > You've never heard the aphorism "never talk politics or religion > in the pub", have you? Try going to a pub 'round here on any night other than game night during playoffs, Friday or Saturday and *not* have either one of those as the topic of discussion at the bar... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpShj3XsPa03.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: lists.debian.org vs google groups
On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 05:39:45PM -0500, Sumo Wrestler (or just ate too much) wrote: > To subscribe, an actual e-mail address must be submitted. Yes, but the list does not require posts to be sent from subscribed addresses. You can either post from a separate address or not subscribe at all. (That said, I would encourage still using a valid email address to allow for easy private replies when appropriate.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
David Purton wrote: On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 12:06:00PM +0200, Žáček Kryštof wrote: Well, this transition could have been prepared better - testing stuff in such state on human beings is not ethical. Well, it worked. Look at all the errors you found :) I can add to them though... x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X cursors no matter what. Gnome complains if you configure the keyboard differently to how it is cofigured in xorg.conf. Unlike you, I haven't yet found work arounds for these yet. Any clues appreciated. There's a definite difference in the new xserver-xorg install and setup compared to the way it used to be. I found it easier to reinstall just that one package and reconfigure. Nothing else (gdm/flexiserver/etc) seemed to be disturbed. Regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:22, Mike McCarty wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
just slang.
Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
being one!
Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
What's the matter? Truth hurt too much?
I, for one, am sick and tired of seeing these digs at our American
friends who are struggling, in their national adolescence, for a sense
of identity.
We need to be grown up about it, and allow them their attempts at
self-establishment in their misspellings and other foibles, so in time
they can find their way to their maturity.
Regards,
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Alt WM's (was Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (nee Re: thunderbird -> kmail))
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 07:05:35PM -0700, Michael M. wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > > > >Well, now I'm repeating myself, but I've fallen in love with WMII > >lately and it dynamically sizes windows based on how many windows are > >open. The problem is some apps are slightly broken vis a vis some of > >the protocols, or they do lots of window rezising and respawning, > >which can be a pain in that set up. just a curiosity sort of > >question. > > > >I'm sure its a fine program and I've heard many good things about > >it... just starting to like the mutt a lot. :) > > > > > For the "broken apps," you can just use the float mode, if there's some > GUI app you really like that doesn't cope well with wmii. I guess that > kinda defeats the purpose of a tiled WM, but it's a pretty necessary > compromise I think unless you're prepared to do without a whole bunch of > different applications altogether. And it works well in wmii. yeah I use that for some things. I find though that the VAST majority of my work is either full screen (web browsing or spreadsheets or gnucash) using maximi[sz]ed mode or its using multiple terminals in which case the default tiled mode is great. And as my eyes (monitor, not sure which actually) get weaker, I begrudge every wasted pixel of desktop. > > Personally, I liked wmii better than Ion3 as I found it easier to use, > but eventually I found it hard to get with the whole Plan9 aspect, which > struck me as introducing a layer of complexity that didn't seem > necessary. Or perhaps it is necessary, but I just didn't really > understand why. I liked trying it out though. I think, in the end, > it's probably not for me. Honestly, I don't understand it either but mucking around in the wmiirc is easy enough and it works. I suspect Plan 9 was just one of those wacky ideas that someone glommed onto and can't let go of. But for a work environment, I'm liking it more and more. Keeping my hands off the mouse is fantastic. And, its amazing how many gui apps you discover are TOO mouse intensive. Sure you can get around using the keyboard, but its kludgy at best. The mouse-intensive and poorly designed keyboard interfaces really glare when you are using the mouse less and less. > One thing trying those WMs out taught me is > the virtue of standards compliance, which unfortunately too many WMs, > DEs, and apps ignore. Openbox and XFCE are, I think, shining examples > of how well things can work when the windowing environment itself is > 100% compliant. They are a pleasure to use because they don't try to > make apps behave the way they think apps should behave, they can be > controlled from the keyboard (especially Openbox -- with keychains and > dynamically generated pipe menus, you never need to reach for the > rodent), and they can be augmented with other standards compliant tools > like Devil's Pie, wmctrl, pypanel, etc. > > But as you say, to each his own. And I still want to try out PekWM. :-) well PekWM looks interesting, but still... all that wasted desktop. bleh :) A > > > -- > Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA > "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of > absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." > --S. Jackson > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 08:45:23 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > there is a rival explanation, which has it that football > originally referred to a variety of games in medieval Europe, > which were played on foot.[1] These games were usually played What about foot[2]? Where these people amputees? -- David E. Fox Thanks for letting me [EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns [EMAIL PROTECTED] on your hard disk. --- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:50:23PM +0100, George Borisov wrote: > David Purton wrote: > > > > x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X > > cursors no matter what. > > Quoted from a post earlier today: > > --- > > The easiest way to work around this seems to be creating a symlink in > ~/.icons of your regular user: > > $ mkdir ~/.icons # if it does not exist already > $ cd ~/.icons > $ ln -s /usr/share/icons/whiteglass default > You can also set it for individual users using gnome, but this doesn't change what gdm uses. I'll hold off until its fixed rather than making changes for all the users on my machine. Good to know that others havve seen it too though. dc -- David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him. 2 Chronicles 16:9a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
S. M. Ibrahim wrote: On Thursday 13 April 2006 20:40, L.V.Gandhi wrote: I also upgraded sid. I didn't face any problem with x or kdm or keyboard You will face this if you make a dist-upgrade toady. Why? What changed today? I upgraded yesterday to Xorg 7.0 without a single thing going wrong. But I'm not using KDE or KDM. Perhaps the problems with the new X are only KDE related. -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: undesired Volume icons on Gnome desktop
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:45:02PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:15:25 +0100 > Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello List, > > > > after my daily upgrade on my Etch box, > > I have two undesired Volume icons (besides my Home icon > > and the Computer icon) on my desktop: > > I guess that I have to configure something to avoid > > their apparence as the `native' volumes do not appaer > > in sch a way, but I do not know where to look for. > > Same problem here. I have an icon for a partition mounted under /mnt, > but not for /, /boot, and /home. > > You can disable the display of these icons by toggling the value of > the gconf key /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible. The bad news is > that this will also disable the display of icons representing removable > media. I have been unable to find a way of fine-tuning the behaviour of > nautilus. > Yeah, I've seen this too. In my case, anything that is mounted from my second hard disk appears. Seems like a bug somewhere to me. dc -- David Purton [EMAIL PROTECTED] For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to him. 2 Chronicles 16:9a signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: Well, now I'm repeating myself, but I've fallen in love with WMII lately and it dynamically sizes windows based on how many windows are open. The problem is some apps are slightly broken vis a vis some of the protocols, or they do lots of window rezising and respawning, which can be a pain in that set up. just a curiosity sort of question. I'm sure its a fine program and I've heard many good things about it... just starting to like the mutt a lot. :) For the "broken apps," you can just use the float mode, if there's some GUI app you really like that doesn't cope well with wmii. I guess that kinda defeats the purpose of a tiled WM, but it's a pretty necessary compromise I think unless you're prepared to do without a whole bunch of different applications altogether. And it works well in wmii. Personally, I liked wmii better than Ion3 as I found it easier to use, but eventually I found it hard to get with the whole Plan9 aspect, which struck me as introducing a layer of complexity that didn't seem necessary. Or perhaps it is necessary, but I just didn't really understand why. I liked trying it out though. I think, in the end, it's probably not for me. One thing trying those WMs out taught me is the virtue of standards compliance, which unfortunately too many WMs, DEs, and apps ignore. Openbox and XFCE are, I think, shining examples of how well things can work when the windowing environment itself is 100% compliant. They are a pleasure to use because they don't try to make apps behave the way they think apps should behave, they can be controlled from the keyboard (especially Openbox -- with keychains and dynamically generated pipe menus, you never need to reach for the rodent), and they can be augmented with other standards compliant tools like Devil's Pie, wmctrl, pypanel, etc. But as you say, to each his own. And I still want to try out PekWM. :-) -- Michael M. ++ Portland, OR ++ USA "No live organism can continue for long to exist sanely under conditions of absolute reality; even larks and katydids are supposed, by some, to dream." --S. Jackson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X programs crash with request_code 151
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:31:15AM +0200, Samuel Krempp wrote: > I just used aptitude to upgrade my debian/unstable box (the previous > full update was on 2006-03-19), and then several graphical programs > are now having one same error. For some it is fatal, for some it only > prints an error report. > > These errors don't happen _at all_ when I launch windowmaker instead > of kde, and I absolutely don't know if this problem is specific to my > box, or due to a bug in a package (and then which package..) > Just in case it could be hardware-related, my video card is a nvidia > GeForce2 with 32MB RAM, and my screen is set to 1680x1050 (16bpp), I'm > using latest xorg server, with nv driver. > > Here are the reports from a few various programs, hoping someone might > point me in the right direction : > > -- firefox and thunderbird : crashes on launch with : > The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error. > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. > (Details: serial 418 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) > (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; >that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. >To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line >option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful >backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) there have been several reports identical to yours and it appears that another upgrade is required. Something that broke earlier has supposedly been fixed. I haven't made this upgrade yet so can't be sure, check the archives for yesterday and today. > > -- gqview : crashes on launch, > The program 'gqview' received an X Window System error. > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. > (Details: serial 143 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) > etc. > > -- "gimp --verbose" starts OK, until I click "open" then crashes > The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. > (Details: serial 19546 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) > > - knode : reports errors, works normally > X Error: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) 1 > Major opcode: 151 > Minor opcode: 23 > Resource id: 0x3e4 > > it seems all KDE apps work (printing a few of those reports along the > way), as overall my kde desktop and usual kde apps appear unaffected. > > -- opera : reports that same error, works normally > > -- Sam > PS : two previous attempts at reaching the mailing list still haven't > produced any effect, 10 hours after sending the first mail. Is it me > or are some emails being blocked by the ML system ?? what does it take > to make it thru to this list ?? you are getting through. are you subscribed? A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:04:41PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > WMII is a dynamic windowmanager that defaults to a "tiled" setup. Each > > window occupies a set area of the screen which is adjusted depending > > on how many windows you open. The windows don't overlap, they are laid > > out on the screen like tiles would be on a floor. > > Ungh, that would drive me batty, especially on mail applications where my > sizes are set to exactly what I think they should be. Any smaller and I lose > information. Any larger and it kills space for other apps. Bleh. yeah, that's exactly why some apps don't play well in that environment. But when well set up with an xterm for mutt and a couple for various shells and then similar setups for different virtual desktops, I'm finding it very useful for me. to each his own... cheers A > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your >PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. > ---+- > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dell partition cp/m ctos
On 4/13/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My daughter has just bought an Inspiron 610, while she wouldn't let me > install linux on it, I booted up Knoppix and copied the first and third > partition to my linux box via the network and made a backup dvd of > these. Also need to back up the MBR as the bootloader controls the > recovery procedure. > > I found the following link useful > http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/fixes.htm. > > HTH This is the site which I was looking for. Thanks. -- L.V.Gandhi http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ linux user No.205042
Re: LVM2 and custom kernel
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 23:15 +0200, Morten O. Hansen wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm trying to build a custom kernel, and everything works except LVM2. > When the kernel is booting, and the lvm-script is trying to mount the > discs, it gives me a kernel-panic. I have googled it a bit, and I tried > adding "--initrd" to make-kpkg, but that didn't work. I also tried > adding "mkimage=/usr/sbin/mkcramfs %s %s" to /etc/kernel-img.conf, but > no luck. > > Any ideas what to do? Which kernel are you compiling? Is it a debian kernel or a vanilla one from kernel.org? What version of debian are you running? What bootloader are you using? Do you have the lvm2 package installed? Make sure that an initrd image exists. If you are compiling a kernel version 2.6.8-4-foo, there should be a /boot/intrd.img-2.6.8-4-foo. If after installing your kernel, you don't see that file, do: # mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.8-4-foo 2.6.8-4-foo That should create your initrd image. Assuming you are using grub, running update-grub should take care of creating the appropriate entry in your menu.lst. -davidc -- gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu April 13 2006 16:04, Wackojacko wrote: > You may want to take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ans > /var/log/Xorg.log. You will probably see errors setting the kdb > parameters due to incorrect wording in xorg.conf. > > The relevant section of my xorg.conf is > > Option"XkbRules" "xorg" > Option"XkbModel" "pc105" > Option"XkbLayout" "gb" That solved the problem. In MY xorg.conf, the first Option line you listed said: Option "XkbRules""xfree86" Once I changed it to "xorg" switching to virtual consoles worked properly again. Thank you! Rick -- Rick's Law: What cannot be imagined will be accomplished by a fool. pgpUz5zsCWUtE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Running 2 versions of Debian?
Cameron Matheson wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:54:32PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > >>I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like to >>work with some more recent versions of software for some development >>projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian on >>the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the >>disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about >>how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with >>MS Windows XP.) > > > This is definitely possible... you would just triple-boot w/ two versions of > Debian... it seems like it would be a lot easier to just compile mono if > that's the only piece of software you are lacking though. > > Good luck, > Cameron Matheson > > P.S. If you need to shrink down your existing partitions look into gparted. > > Here is a howto I wrote on package customization (also useful for backporting): http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize Also, a chroot environment is probably preferable in this instance. I would also consider Xen. That obviates the need to reboot to use the different environments. -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Fri, 2006-04-14 at 00:34 +0100, Doofus wrote:
> Ron Johnson wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:22, Mike McCarty wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Gene Heskett wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
>
>
> >It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
> >just slang.
> >
> >
> Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
> rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
> being one!
>
>
> >>>Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>What's the matter? Truth hurt too much?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Humorous national jabbing is one thing, partisan politics is a way
> >different, poisoning issue.
> >
>
> I once held this view, but these days politics deserve to be laughed at
> as much as anything. If you took them seriously you'd descend into
> depression or become an assasin (in the good ol' US tradition ;-).
> John's post took a pop at the present incumbents on both sides of the
> pond - hardly partisan. The only poison in politics emanates from the
> politicians themselves, and the joke is ultimately on us. Look at
> Silvio... No, don't.
You've never heard the aphorism "never talk politics or religion
in the pub", have you?
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Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
theo wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hodgins Family wrote: Hey, theo! On Wed, 2006-12-04 at 06:49 +0200, theo wrote: Hodgins Family wrote: The short answer is that the French made us do it! Sorry for that. (I also plead guilty for centre/center, theatre/theater, catalogue/catalog and utilise/utilize). cheers, theo. Pas de probeleme, ya know, like... Adds color (oops, colour) to the language as she are spoke there, ya know, like, anyways That was ironic, just like you were ;) Liberal use of irony is unfair on the Merkins I always feel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Ron Johnson wrote:
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:22, Mike McCarty wrote:
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
just slang.
Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
being one!
Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
What's the matter? Truth hurt too much?
Humorous national jabbing is one thing, partisan politics is a way
different, poisoning issue.
I once held this view, but these days politics deserve to be laughed at
as much as anything. If you took them seriously you'd descend into
depression or become an assasin (in the good ol' US tradition ;-).
John's post took a pop at the present incumbents on both sides of the
pond - hardly partisan. The only poison in politics emanates from the
politicians themselves, and the joke is ultimately on us. Look at
Silvio... No, don't.
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Re: Running 2 versions of Debian?
Hi, On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 02:54:32PM -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like to > work with some more recent versions of software for some development > projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian on > the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the > disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about > how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with > MS Windows XP.) This is definitely possible... you would just triple-boot w/ two versions of Debian... it seems like it would be a lot easier to just compile mono if that's the only piece of software you are lacking though. Good luck, Cameron Matheson P.S. If you need to shrink down your existing partitions look into gparted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > WMII is a dynamic windowmanager that defaults to a "tiled" setup. Each > window occupies a set area of the screen which is adjusted depending > on how many windows you open. The windows don't overlap, they are laid > out on the screen like tiles would be on a floor. Ungh, that would drive me batty, especially on mail applications where my sizes are set to exactly what I think they should be. Any smaller and I lose information. Any larger and it kills space for other apps. Bleh. -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
X programs crash with request_code 151
I just used aptitude to upgrade my debian/unstable box (the previousfull update was on 2006-03-19), and then several graphical programs are now having one same error. For some it is fatal, for some it onlyprints an error report.These errors don't happen _at all _ when I launch windowmaker insteadof kde, and I absolutely don't know if this problem is specific to mybox, or due to a bug in a package (and then which package..)Just in case it could be hardware-related, my video card is a nvidia GeForce2 with 32MB RAM, and my screen is set to 1680x1050 (16bpp), I'musing latest xorg server, with nv driver.Here are the reports from a few various programs, hoping someone mightpoint me in the right direction : -- firefox and thunderbird : crashes on launch with :The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error.This probably reflects a bug in the program.The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 418 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)-- gqview : crashes on launch,The program 'gqview' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program.The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 143 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23)etc.-- "gimp --verbose" starts OK, until I click "open" then crashes The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 19546 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23)- knode : reports errors, works normallyX Error: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) 1 Major opcode: 151 Minor opcode: 23 Resource id: 0x3e4it seems all KDE apps work (printing a few of those reports along theway), as overall my kde desktop and usual kde apps appear unaffected. -- opera : reports that same error, works normally-- SamPS : two previous attempts at reaching the mailing list still haven't produced any effect, 10 hours after sending the first mail. Is it me or are some emails being blocked by the ML system ?? what does it take to make it thru to this list ??
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 19:47:34 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:17:21 +0100 > George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o > > > > That said, I don't use KDE... > > > > -- > > George Borisov > > > > DXSolutions Ltd > > > > > > > Possibly. I don't use kde either (gdm + IceWM). I was using the font > terminus for my mlterm, but that doesn't work anymore. Can't figure out > what happened :( I'll start a new thread if I can't solve it this night. > And switching to console is broken too. Forgot about that Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color? IS THEREA MODERATOR FOR THIS LIST???
Kent West wrote: > It's a person who sends a reply to email by putting their response at the top > of the material to which they're responding. Shouldn't that be "responce" ? cmr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Running 2 versions of Debian?
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 05:18:50PM -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: > Sure. You can dual-boot Debian Sarge and Debian Etch just as easy as you > can dual boot Debian Sarge with Win XP (or Fedora, or BSD, or whatever > else you'd like). I've run tri-boot systems before. As long as you set > them up fully independent of each other, and always configure GRUB from > just one of them, you shouldn't have any issues. > > The only major disadvantages are that you'd have to reboot to switch > between systems, and you could be wasting disk space by chopping your disk > up suboptimally. > > If you wanted to share stuff between them, that could get messy. Even > sharing your home partition could cause issues with the saved data for > different versions of some programs, depending on what it is you run. > > -- > Larry Garfield > > On Thu, April 13, 2006 4:54 pm, Redefined Horizons said: > > I ran into some trouble when I was trying to install the Debian packages > > for > > Mono. Turns out the stable packages for Sarge at backports.org required a > > newer version of libc6 and libglib, which meant removing about 3/4 of the > > other packages on my system. > > > > I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like > > to > > work with some more recent versions of software for some development > > projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian > > on > > the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the > > disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about > > how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with > > MS Windows XP.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Huey > > Hi why would you want to tri boot and not having a simple chroot ? (you could also combine these two options and run your other bootable debian install also in a chroot, at least if the uids match...) and using dchroot every user can run apps in the chroot, and with this script it is also possible to simply create links to the programms from outside the chroot and using bind mounts you can share the data between chroot and outside.. i even ran a daemon once, but then you have to manually create the startup links by hand... i use such a setup currently to run i396 aps on my amd64 debian install yours albert -- Albert Dengg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 01:14:49AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it > > > has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that > > > sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because > > > at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest > > > changes. > > > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > > > A > > I don't know what you mean. I use IceWM and have no issues whatsoever. Well, now I'm repeating myself, but I've fallen in love with WMII lately and it dynamically sizes windows based on how many windows are open. The problem is some apps are slightly broken vis a vis some of the protocols, or they do lots of window rezising and respawning, which can be a pain in that set up. just a curiosity sort of question. I'm sure its a fine program and I've heard many good things about it... just starting to like the mutt a lot. :) A > > Andrei > -- > If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. > (Albert Einstein) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Running 2 versions of Debian?
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 05:18:50PM -0500, Larry Garfield wrote: > Sure. You can dual-boot Debian Sarge and Debian Etch just as easy as you > can dual boot Debian Sarge with Win XP (or Fedora, or BSD, or whatever > else you'd like). I've run tri-boot systems before. As long as you set > them up fully independent of each other, and always configure GRUB from > just one of them, you shouldn't have any issues. > > The only major disadvantages are that you'd have to reboot to switch > between systems, and you could be wasting disk space by chopping your disk > up suboptimally. can you chroot your way into a different distro? I suppose you'd be running the same kernel, but I suspect that might not be much of a problem. maybe a backport of a more recent kernel for sarge and then chroot into etch or sid? A > > If you wanted to share stuff between them, that could get messy. Even > sharing your home partition could cause issues with the saved data for > different versions of some programs, depending on what it is you run. > > -- > Larry Garfield > > On Thu, April 13, 2006 4:54 pm, Redefined Horizons said: > > I ran into some trouble when I was trying to install the Debian packages > > for > > Mono. Turns out the stable packages for Sarge at backports.org required a > > newer version of libc6 and libglib, which meant removing about 3/4 of the > > other packages on my system. > > > > I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like > > to > > work with some more recent versions of software for some development > > projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian > > on > > the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the > > disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about > > how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with > > MS Windows XP.) > > > > Thanks, > > > > Scott Huey > > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Circular Dependency
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:51 -0700, Redefined Horizons wrote: > Is it possible for a Debian Package to have a circular dependency? > > I tried installing the latest stable Debian packages for Eclipse. > Synaptic told me that eclipse-jdt depended on eclipse-jdt-common, and > that eclipse-jdt-common depended on eclipse-jdt. > Is this possible? Is it a problem with the packages themselves? Why not install both of them at the same time? From the command line: # apt-get install eclipse-jdt-common eclipse-jdt > If so, how do I let the package maintainer know? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Yes, indeed, C isn't 'trendy' enough in the same way gas lighting isn't trendy enough: it's dangerous and it's completely obsolete." http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=91653&cid=7893882 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 14:55 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:22, Mike McCarty wrote:
> > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
> > >>It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
> > >>just slang.
> > >
> > > Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
> > > rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
> > > being one!
> >
> > Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
>
> What's the matter? Truth hurt too much?
Humorous national jabbing is one thing, partisan politics is a way
different, poisoning issue.
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Re: Running 2 versions of Debian?
Sure. You can dual-boot Debian Sarge and Debian Etch just as easy as you can dual boot Debian Sarge with Win XP (or Fedora, or BSD, or whatever else you'd like). I've run tri-boot systems before. As long as you set them up fully independent of each other, and always configure GRUB from just one of them, you shouldn't have any issues. The only major disadvantages are that you'd have to reboot to switch between systems, and you could be wasting disk space by chopping your disk up suboptimally. If you wanted to share stuff between them, that could get messy. Even sharing your home partition could cause issues with the saved data for different versions of some programs, depending on what it is you run. -- Larry Garfield On Thu, April 13, 2006 4:54 pm, Redefined Horizons said: > I ran into some trouble when I was trying to install the Debian packages > for > Mono. Turns out the stable packages for Sarge at backports.org required a > newer version of libc6 and libglib, which meant removing about 3/4 of the > other packages on my system. > > I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like > to > work with some more recent versions of software for some development > projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian > on > the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the > disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about > how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with > MS Windows XP.) > > Thanks, > > Scott Huey > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it > > has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that > > sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because > > at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest > > changes. > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > A I don't know what you mean. I use IceWM and have no issues whatsoever. Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On 4/13/06, Wackojacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You may want to take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ans > /var/log/Xorg.log. You will probably see errors setting the kdb > parameters due to incorrect wording in xorg.conf. > > The relevant section of my xorg.conf is > > Option "XkbRules" "xorg" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "gb" I have the above in my laptop xorg.conf. but pc104. Still alt+ctrl+F2 does change virtual console. -- L.V.Gandhi http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ linux user No.205042
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thursday 13 April 2006 6:36 am, Žáček Kryštof wrote: > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more than > unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. K3b > was > absent from testing for many months!)). SID appears to be the best choice for > Debian desktop (regardless to what official policy states) and as such it is > chosen by many. Indeed I have been running Sid here for about two years. Works a treat. > Yes, I am ready do deal with minor breakages. However, X not starting, KDE > ot starting ... this is not a minor problem but a fatal show stopper. This > proves > lack of software quality testing in the Debian release model. In my opinion > the > released Xorg 7 package belongs still to experimental. One life saver if you run Sid is apt-listbugs. Assuming there has been a serious bug reported against it, it will list it and prompt you if you want to upgrade anyway. -- "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson
Re: Circular Dependency
Redefined Horizons wrote: > Is it possible for a Debian Package to have a circular dependency? Yes. > I tried installing the latest stable Debian packages for Eclipse. Synaptic > told me that eclipse-jdt depended on eclipse-jdt-common, and that > eclipse-jdt-common depended on eclipse-jdt. > Is this possible? Yes. Is it a problem with the packages themselves? Yes. > If so, how do I let the package maintainer know? You could report a bug [1] against affected packages, but first you should make sure that it is still not fixed in the latest unstable version. (it does not seem to be fixed in Eclise) [1] http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upgrade xorg in Sid breaks link
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 2:16 pm, Curt Howland wrote: > Good thing you had a full backup. The only thing I backup is user data > (and /etc/*) so I would have had to do a fresh rebuild. Hmm, maybe > that's not such a bad idea anyway. Flush out those obsolete libraries > and applications on the list this morning like "kdm". :( My painless backup strategy is I have a mondorescue set that gets updated every six months or so and I have a rsync mirror on an external usb HD that gets updated at least weekly. I have a little script that mounts the usb drive, rsyncs everything and then unmounts the drive. -- "The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." - Thomas Jefferson
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:22, Mike McCarty wrote:
> Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
> >>It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
> >>just slang.
> >
> > Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
> > rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
> > being one!
>
> Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
What's the matter? Truth hurt too much?
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Running 2 versions of Debian?
I ran into some trouble when I was trying to install the Debian packages for Mono. Turns out the stable packages for Sarge at backports.org required a newer version of libc6 and libglib, which meant removing about 3/4 of the other packages on my system. I need a stable Debian OS for certain applications, but I would also like to work with some more recent versions of software for some development projects. Is it possible to run the stable and testing versions of Debian on the same hard drive, but in different partitions? What would be the disadvantages of that system? Where can I find some more information about how to set that type of system up? (I'm currently dual-booting Debian with MS Windows XP.) Thanks, Scott Huey
Re: [OT] gpg check
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Circular Dependency
Is it possible for a Debian Package to have a circular dependency? I tried installing the latest stable Debian packages for Eclipse. Synaptic told me that eclipse-jdt depended on eclipse-jdt-common, and that eclipse-jdt-common depended on eclipse-jdt. Is this possible? Is it a problem with the packages themselves? If so, how do I let the package maintainer know? Thanks, Scott Huey
Re: kernel source and gcc
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 01:36:55PM -0700, tom arnall wrote: > > I am in the middle of getting the madwifi driver to work for a d-link > wireless > card. In the course of doing the make for the wifi driver, I encountered the > following error: > > make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386' > CC [M] /home/kloro/linux/madwifi-ng/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o > In file included from include/asm/thread_info.h:16, > from include/linux/thread_info.h:21, > from include/linux/spinlock.h:12, > from include/linux/capability.h:45, > from include/linux/sched.h:7, > from include/linux/module.h:10, > from > /home/kloro/linux/madwifi-ng/ath_hal/ah_osdep.c:46: > include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element > type > > At this point, the compiler is not dealing with madwifi stuff per se, but > with > kernel source. Specifically, to the best of my research, an array variable > (object in the new parlance) needs to be declared somewhere in the .c files. > How can this be? Lots of people use the kernel code for lots of purposes. How > can this bug still be lingering around? just a hunch, but I know some projects haven't done well with the transition to gcc4.something. have you asked the madwifi people about this? A > > Thanks, > > Tom Arnall > north spit, ca > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 10:34:31AM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it > > > has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that > > > sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because > > > at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest > > > changes. > > > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > > > A > > > > Not sure what you mean about "tiled". Under Windowmaker works like a > champ WMII is a dynamic windowmanager that defaults to a "tiled" setup. Each window occupies a set area of the screen which is adjusted depending on how many windows you open. The windows don't overlap, they are laid out on the screen like tiles would be on a floor. some gui apps don't play well with that kind of setup, hence my question. Windows that do lots of automatic resizing and respawning etc can often be a problem as the display tries to alter ALL your tiles to suit... A > > -- > Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Registered Linux User #96112 > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 21:22 +0200, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:34:31 -0700 Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 > > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable > > > > and it has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm > > > > noticing is that sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread > > > > again, probably because at a shutdown it gets killed before the > > > > chance to write the latest changes. > > > > > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > > > Not sure what you mean about "tiled". Under Windowmaker works like a > > champ > > Just for balance, I've used Sylpheed for many years, and it has always > been rock stable. > My WM is Blackbox, but it works well on every other WM/DE I've seen. > I prefer Sylpheed to -claws because I find those extra bells and > whistles of -claws just irritating. Sylpheed is solid for me, too in GNOME (Sid). Using it as an IMAP client. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "I have created a government of whirled peas..." Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, 12-May-2002, CNN, Larry King Live -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
LVM2 and custom kernel
Hi there, I'm trying to build a custom kernel, and everything works except LVM2. When the kernel is booting, and the lvm-script is trying to mount the discs, it gives me a kernel-panic. I have googled it a bit, and I tried adding "--initrd" to make-kpkg, but that didn't work. I also tried adding "mkimage=/usr/sbin/mkcramfs %s %s" to /etc/kernel-img.conf, but no luck. Any ideas what to do? Take care, Morten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: X apps bug : 'BadRequest' / Major opcode: 151
On (13/04/06 03:41), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 03:41:08 +0200 > Subject: X apps bug : 'BadRequest' / Major opcode: 151 > > I just used aptitude to upgrade my debian/unstable box (the previous > full update was on 2006-03-19), and then several graphical programs > are now having one same error. For some it is fatal, for some it only > prints an error report. > [snip errors] Take a look at the archives from today, someone else reported the same error. They solved it with another upgrade. One of the X packages upgraded and solved the problem I believe. > > P.S. : I am resending this mail, as it seems first mail never made it through. > If this ends up being a duplicate post, I'm sorry. I only got this one. James -- James Westby [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X apps bug : 'BadRequest' / Major opcode: 151
I just used aptitude to upgrade my debian/unstable box (the previous full update was on 2006-03-19), and then several graphical programs are now having one same error. For some it is fatal, for some it only prints an error report. These errors don't happen _at all_ when I launch windowmaker instead of kde, and I absolutely don't know if this problem is specific to my box, or due to a bug in a package (and then which package..) Just in case it could be hardware-related, my video card is a nvidia GeForce2 with 32MB RAM, and my screen is set to 1680x1050 (16bpp), I'm using latest xorg server, with nv driver. Here are the reports from a few various programs, hoping someone might point me in the right direction : -- firefox and thunderbird : crashes on launch with : The program 'Gecko' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 418 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) -- gqview : crashes on launch, The program 'gqview' received an X Window System error. This probably reflects a bug in the program. The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 143 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) etc. -- "gimp --verbose" starts OK, until I click "open" then crashes The error was 'BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)'. (Details: serial 19546 error_code 1 request_code 151 minor_code 23) - knode : reports errors, works normally X Error: BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation) 1 Major opcode: 151 Minor opcode: 23 Resource id: 0x3e4 it seems all KDE apps work (printing a few of those reports along the way), as overall my kde desktop and usual kde apps appear unaffected. -- opera : reports that same error, works normally P.S. : I am resending this mail, as it seems first mail never made it through. If this ends up being a duplicate post, I'm sorry. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kernel source and gcc
I am in the middle of getting the madwifi driver to work for a d-link wireless card. In the course of doing the make for the wifi driver, I encountered the following error: make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386' CC [M] /home/kloro/linux/madwifi-ng/ath_hal/ah_osdep.o In file included from include/asm/thread_info.h:16, from include/linux/thread_info.h:21, from include/linux/spinlock.h:12, from include/linux/capability.h:45, from include/linux/sched.h:7, from include/linux/module.h:10, from /home/kloro/linux/madwifi-ng/ath_hal/ah_osdep.c:46: include/asm/processor.h:87: error: array type has incomplete element type At this point, the compiler is not dealing with madwifi stuff per se, but with kernel source. Specifically, to the best of my research, an array variable (object in the new parlance) needs to be declared somewhere in the .c files. How can this be? Lots of people use the kernel code for lots of purposes. How can this bug still be lingering around? Thanks, Tom Arnall north spit, ca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 08:46, John Hasler wrote:
It's actually spelled "politician". "Bush" ("blair" in the UK) is
just slang.
Too bad we can't make it carry the same undesirable connotations the
rest of the 4 letter words carry. Worse, they're actually proud of
being one!
Could we please take the political stuff elsewhere?
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Re: dell partition cp/m ctos
L.V.Gandhi wrote: > > Thanks for the response. This laptop didn't come with OS recovery CD. > further I as mentioned somewhere I searched OS recovery CD Making > utility. That is also not there. That is my problem after deleting how > to install windows back. > I think the third partition is norton ghost backup of System. Is there > any way to back up and restore method of this partition or create > windows recovery cd before I delete and install debian? > -- > L.V.Gandhi > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > linux user No.205042 Well, you could try booting up with the most recent knoppix live CD and copy the partition you want to a remote computer and then burn it to a cd perhaps -- assuming you have a network. It is quite easy to find links on how to do that. I didn't do that. But I didn't want the partitions I deleted. In any case, I would suggest making a dd of the small partitions and saving them for future problems. ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can I delete Evolution?
Eugen Rahaian wrote: Hi, This is a reply to message http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg01170.html (I was not on the list) Kev wrote in the above message: Hi *, after a converstaion on #debian, I found out info about these meta-packages: gnome > gnome-desktop-environment > gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment has a dependency for evolution. So you can remove gnome-desktop-environment, install gnome-core and just remember to add stuff that gnome-core does not have that you want to keep up to date. Cheers, Kev I was going to delete gnome-desktop-environment but when I simulated it: # apt-get -s remove gnome-desktop-environment Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED gnome gnome-desktop-environment 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 165 not upgraded. Remv gnome [1:2.12.2.2] Remv gnome-desktop-environment [1:2.12.2.2] ... apt is removing gnome package also, because gnome depends on gnome-desktop-environment. Is there a *simple* way to remove gnome-desktop-environment, so I can remove Evolution and anything else I want? If not, I would just leave it there. Regards, Eugen AFAIK gnome and gnome-destktop-environment are just meta packages to simplify installation, and removing them will not remove Gnome. If it did there would be more than 2 files to remove :). HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
Rick Friedman wrote: On Thu April 13 2006 11:59, Michael Ott wrote: Hello! Some special keys do not work anymore = Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) Try this: setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "pc105" -layout "de" This worked for me. After that i can reset the keyboard preference for my Gnome Desktop. But I believe that you have to change the values of the parameter After upgrading I also have the problem of not being able to switch to virtual consoles. I tried your suggestion and it works fine (although I substituted "us" for "de" in the layout). I have put that in a script which is run on startup of KDE. However, is there someway to do this for all users upon startup of X rather than individually putting the script in each user's Autostart directory? If there is a way to do it... well, how? Thanks, Rick You may want to take a look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, ans /var/log/Xorg.log. You will probably see errors setting the kdb parameters due to incorrect wording in xorg.conf. The relevant section of my xorg.conf is Option "XkbRules""xorg" Option "XkbModel""pc105" Option "XkbLayout" "gb" HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: chroot problem with grub
On Thursday 13 April 2006 13:21, Philippe De Ryck wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 12:13 -0600, Justin Guerin wrote: > > Hi, > > > > [snip problem] > > Justin, > > I don't think it is necessary to chroot at all. The knoppix disk has > grub on board, so you can use that command. The command also has a > command line switch to specify a device (/dev/hda for instance) and you > can also specify a root-dir. If you specify as root-dir the mount point > of your system (/mnt/target) grub will take the config file > from /mnt/target/boot/...) and everything should work just fine. > > If you search the internet (or the manual perhaps) for this specific > info you'll find a lot more. > > Good luck > > Philippe De Ryck You're right, it wasn't necessary to chroot. I simply mounted the drives and issued the command "grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/target /dev/hda" and it worked. For good measure, before I rebooted, I chrooted and ran update-grub, but I'm not certain that was necessary. Now, all my kernels are back and working. Thanks Philippe! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: How can I delete Evolution?
Hi, This is a reply to message http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/04/msg01170.html (I was not on the list) Kev wrote in the above message: Hi *, after a converstaion on #debian, I found out info about these meta-packages: gnome > gnome-desktop-environment > gnome-core and gnome-desktop-environment has a dependency for evolution. So you can remove gnome-desktop-environment, install gnome-core and just remember to add stuff that gnome-core does not have that you want to keep up to date. Cheers, Kev I was going to delete gnome-desktop-environment but when I simulated it: # apt-get -s remove gnome-desktop-environment Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done The following packages will be REMOVED gnome gnome-desktop-environment 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 165 not upgraded. Remv gnome [1:2.12.2.2] Remv gnome-desktop-environment [1:2.12.2.2] ... apt is removing gnome package also, because gnome depends on gnome-desktop-environment. Is there a *simple* way to remove gnome-desktop-environment, so I can remove Evolution and anything else I want? If not, I would just leave it there. Regards, Eugen _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dell partition cp/m ctos
L.V.Gandhi wrote: On 4/13/06, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I did, but I removed the second and third partitions, repartitioned that part of the disk into two parititions and installed Windows on the first one and Linux in the second one. Debian Unstable. It was a Dell Inspiron 5160. Thanks for the response. This laptop didn't come with OS recovery CD. further I as mentioned somewhere I searched OS recovery CD Making utility. That is also not there. That is my problem after deleting how to install windows back. I think the third partition is norton ghost backup of System. Is there any way to back up and restore method of this partition or create windows recovery cd before I delete and install debian? My daughter has just bought an Inspiron 610, while she wouldn't let me install linux on it, I booted up Knoppix and copied the first and third partition to my linux box via the network and made a backup dvd of these. Also need to back up the MBR as the bootloader controls the recovery procedure. I found the following link useful http://www.goodells.net/dellrestore/fixes.htm. HTH Wackojacko L.V.Gandhi http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ linux user No.205042 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu April 13 2006 11:59, Michael Ott wrote: > Hello! > > > Some special keys do not work anymore > > = > > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 > > > > Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) > > Try this: > setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "pc105" -layout "de" > > This worked for me. After that i can reset the keyboard preference for > my Gnome Desktop. But I believe that you have to change the values of > the parameter After upgrading I also have the problem of not being able to switch to virtual consoles. I tried your suggestion and it works fine (although I substituted "us" for "de" in the layout). I have put that in a script which is run on startup of KDE. However, is there someway to do this for all users upon startup of X rather than individually putting the script in each user's Autostart directory? If there is a way to do it... well, how? Thanks, Rick -- Rick's Law: What cannot be imagined will be accomplished by a fool. pgpTnePtmtBF8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH under Linux
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 23:25:16 +0200, Almut Behrens wrote: > BTW, for the sake of completeness [...] wow, that's a comprehensive explanation. Thanks a lot (I archived the msg right away). never underestimate the power of this mlist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CyberPower UPS AE550 (550SL)
Hey, all. I've picked up a CyberPower 550, and I'm wondering if there's any hope of getting to to speak to my Debian Sarge box via USB? It shows up as follows: usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using address 2 usbcore: registered new driver hiddev hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [CPS UPS AE550] on usb-:00:1d.1-1 usbcore: registered new driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.0:USB HID core driver I'm relatively unfamiliar with NUT or other possibilities - I've only ever used apcupsd, under NetBSD, before. It would be good to know if someone has gotten one of these things to speak intelligibly before... Thanks in advance! -- Mason Loring Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://blisses.org/ "I am a brother of jackals, and a companion of ostriches." (Job 30 : 29) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:34:31 -0700 Rodney D. Myers wrote: > On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable > > > and it has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm > > > noticing is that sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread > > > again, probably because at a shutdown it gets killed before the > > > chance to write the latest changes. > > > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > Not sure what you mean about "tiled". Under Windowmaker works like a > champ Just for balance, I've used Sylpheed for many years, and it has always been rock stable. My WM is Blackbox, but it works well on every other WM/DE I've seen. I prefer Sylpheed to -claws because I find those extra bells and whistles of -claws just irritating. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dell partition cp/m ctos
On 4/13/06, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I did, but I removed the second and third partitions, repartitioned that > part of the disk into two parititions and installed Windows on the first > one and Linux in the second one. Debian Unstable. It was a Dell Inspiron > 5160. Thanks for the response. This laptop didn't come with OS recovery CD. further I as mentioned somewhere I searched OS recovery CD Making utility. That is also not there. That is my problem after deleting how to install windows back. I think the third partition is norton ghost backup of System. Is there any way to back up and restore method of this partition or create windows recovery cd before I delete and install debian? -- L.V.Gandhi http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ linux user No.205042
Re: xpdf -fullscreen doesn't fill entire screen in Gnome
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 18:46 -0700, John Fry wrote: > Hi, > > After a recent upgrade of Sid I notice that xpdf -fullscreen no longer > fills the entire screen like it used to. Instead, it fills my > desktop, but my top and bottom Gnome panels stay visible. Acroread > and gpdf behave the same way. > > Any suggestions for how to make my pdf documents fill the entire > screen for a slideshow, like they used to? > > Thanks, > > John > > John, Did you find a solution to this problem? I'm seeing it too. Carlos signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
motorola a780 & storage device
I have a my motorola a780 connected to my debian etch/testing box. debian knows it's there. usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using address 16 scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Vendor: Motorola Model: A780 PhoneRev: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 USB Mass Storage device found at 16 while a sudo tail /var/log/messages show Apr 13 11:56:50 riverside kernel: usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 15 Apr 13 11:56:51 riverside kernel: usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using address 16 Apr 13 11:56:51 riverside kernel: scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices Apr 13 11:56:51 riverside kernel: Vendor: Motorola Model: A780 Phone Rev: Apr 13 11:56:51 riverside kernel: Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 I see no way to mount the phone as a storage device. Or am I missing something? Thanks -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: dell partition cp/m ctos
L.V.Gandhi wrote: > I wanted to have dual boot in my dell inspiron E1705. It comes 3 built > in partitions. First is name as dell utiltu type, second NTFs and > third CP/M /CTOS. I think all recovery software is kept in third > partition. If any one has installed dual boot debian in such a > situation, kindly guide me. > > -- > L.V.Gandhi > http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ > linux user No.205042 I did, but I removed the second and third partitions, repartitioned that part of the disk into two parititions and installed Windows on the first one and Linux in the second one. Debian Unstable. It was a Dell Inspiron 5160. ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
chroot problem with grub
Hi, I've had to move my install to a new physical disk. I made an image of my two partitions (/boot and /), and they restored properly. Now, I only need to run grub-install to install the boot loader. When I boot from Knoppix, I can mount the / to /mnt/target, then mount /boot to /mnt/target/boot, and /proc to /mnt/target/proc, but I can't get grub-install to work properly. When I chroot /mnt/target, and run grub, grub can't see the drives (error 21). However, when I back out of the chroot, grub sees the drives just fine. Can anyone tell me how grub accesses the bios to find out information about drives? I'm not passing something through the chroot, but I have no idea what. The device nodes are available in the chroot, and so is proc. I'm running as root, and I know I have access to the device nodes. Any help is appreciated. Justin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
> > That said, I don't use KDE... > > Nor do I -- Fvwm all the way! Ew, graphical user interfaces. (I just had to say that) -- Kim Christensen "This is your life, and it's ending one minute at a time" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
On 4/13/06, George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o I haven't had any trouble, but then I haven't tried restarting X in the past several days. I have the appropriate symlink for /etc/X11/X, though, so that at least shouldn't be a problem. I had a bit of an issue last week after upgrading both X and my kernel, so that I had to stop using gpm to generate my mouse events. Not sure why that was, though, and I haven't tried it again since then. You could probably call that something breaking, but it was before this latest change. > That said, I don't use KDE... Nor do I -- Fvwm all the way! -- Michael A. Marsh http://www.umiacs.umd.edu/~mmarsh http://mamarsh.blogspot.com
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:29:18 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it > > has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that > > sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because > > at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest > > changes. > > does it behave well in a tiled WM? > > A > Not sure what you mean about "tiled". Under Windowmaker works like a champ -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 08:09:44PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it > has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that > sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because > at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest > changes. does it behave well in a tiled WM? A > > Andrei > -- > If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. > (Albert Einstein) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Experimenting with Debian
Michael M. a écrit, le 13.04.2006 02:02 : > The repositories are: > deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free hello, here are other informations for testing security: http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing etch/security-updates main contrib non-free (in one line) is what I use for security in my /etc/apt/sources.list am I doing wrong? heho -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 04:17:21PM +0100, George Borisov wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o It upgraded swimmingly on my box. I'm not doing anything strange with my configuration, though. > That said, I don't use KDE... Nor do I (GNOME either, for that matter ;) -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are a very redundant person, that's what kind of person you are. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 01:36:00PM +0200, ???ek Kry?tof wrote: > I agree, but only partially. > > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken more than > unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing apps (e.g. K3b > was absent from testing for many months!)). SID appears to be the best choice > for Debian desktop (regardless to what official policy states) and as such it > is chosen by many. I agree with you on this. I've been running straight sid desktop for over a year now and its great. > > Yes, I am ready do deal with minor breakages. However, X not starting, KDE ot > starting ... this is not a minor problem but a fatal show stopper. This > proves lack of software quality testing in the Debian release model. In my > opinion the released Xorg 7 package belongs still to experimental. > Well, I don't know the policy for experimental, but based on a few anecdotal things, I think we've been experiencing a particularly good run in sid for a while and maybe we've been lulled into thinking its better than we should. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:05:54 -0700 Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:57:35AM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > > > 2 separate programs now. > > > > > > Ah, ok. What's the benefit of -claws, or the difference? > > > > > > -- > > > - > > > Ron Johnson, Jr. > > > Jefferson, LA USA > > > > > > > Now therein lies a very good question. I have never used sylpheed, > > always SC. It had more features from the beginning, and was trying > > different approaches to things. > > fwiw, I just dumped sylpheed the other day as I got tired of it > randomly crashing. especially when switching from one folder to > another. I know sylpheed is undergoing a lot of developement (spent a > few days on their list) and the main dev. is pretty responsive. It > used to crash on me about two or three times a day. no big deal, just > annoying. but I'm moving to WMII and a text based client works much > better in that environment (mutt). > > A > > > > > -- > > Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Registered Linux User #96112 > > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > > Ben Franklin - 1759 > > You should give Sylpheed-Claws-GTK2 a try. I'm running unstable and it has never crashed on me. The only strange thing I'm noticing is that sometimes mail I just read is marked as unread again, probably because at a shutdown it gets killed before the chance to write the latest changes. Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sylpheed vs. Claws (was Re: thunderbird -> kmail)
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 06:57:35AM -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > > 2 separate programs now. > > > > Ah, ok. What's the benefit of -claws, or the difference? > > > > -- > > - > > Ron Johnson, Jr. > > Jefferson, LA USA > > > > Now therein lies a very good question. I have never used sylpheed, > always SC. It had more features from the beginning, and was trying > different approaches to things. fwiw, I just dumped sylpheed the other day as I got tired of it randomly crashing. especially when switching from one folder to another. I know sylpheed is undergoing a lot of developement (spent a few days on their list) and the main dev. is pretty responsive. It used to crash on me about two or three times a day. no big deal, just annoying. but I'm moving to WMII and a text based client works much better in that environment (mutt). A > > -- > Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Registered Linux User #96112 > ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: > 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 > > They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a > little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. > Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 16:17:21 +0100 George Borisov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything > breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o > > That said, I don't use KDE... > > -- > George Borisov > > DXSolutions Ltd > > > Possibly. I don't use kde either (gdm + IceWM). I was using the font terminus for my mlterm, but that doesn't work anymore. Can't figure out what happened :( I'll start a new thread if I can't solve it this night. Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
dell partition cp/m ctos
I wanted to have dual boot in my dell inspiron E1705. It comes 3 built in partitions. First is name as dell utiltu type, second NTFs and third CP/M /CTOS. I think all recovery software is kept in third partition. If any one has installed dual boot debian in such a situation, kindly guide me. -- L.V.Gandhi http://lvgandhi.tripod.com/ linux user No.205042
Re: Xorg driver for old S3 cards in unstable
On Thursday 13 April 2006 15:23, David Goodenough wrote: > I realise that there are some problems with the new modular xorg in > unstable at the moment, but I have a small dilema which seems to be > different from the ones already discussed on this forum. > > I have a sacrificial machine which I upgrade each morning to the latest > level on unstable. It is a very old machine (and old IBM 750-P90 but with > an Evergreen 400MHz go faster processor in it. It is slow, but does the > job. > > It has an S3 86C864 chip for driver the screen, which was handled by > the old S3 driver back in XFree 3.x days. Up until this most recent > version of xorg I have been able to use the old 3.x driver and as long > as I configured it in XF86Config I was OK. > > With this latest set of upgrades the old driver was removed, and there > are references to xserver-xorg-video-s3 as a package, which is supposed > to provide support for old s3 chips, hopefully including mine. > > But the xserver-xorg-video-s3 package only seems to include the > /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-s3 directory and its changelog and > a copyright. No driver. > > According to packages.debian.org the actual drivers are in xserver-xorg, > but that is only a tiny little package with no video drivers. But that > list is out of date (April 5) so I guess it may be that the packages may > have been reocrganised. One clue to this is that it lists the files as > being in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules where actually the drivers are now in > /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers. > > So does anyone know what has happened to the S3 driver, whether it > is supposed to be there, and if so whether there is a special package > I need to install to find it. > > Regards > > David One further piece of information. apt-file and dpkg differ about what files are present in xserver-xorg. apt-file says that s3_drv.so is present in that file, and dpkg -c can not find it, and dpkg -S can not find the file. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg problems when trying to play videos onto a TV with an nvidia card
On Thursday 13 April 2006 09:31, Thomas McLean wrote: > Section "Module" > Load "GLcore" > Load "bitmap" > Load "dbe" > Load "ddc" > Load "dri" > Load "extmod" > Load "freetype" > Load "glx" > Load "int10" > Load "record" > Load "speedo" > Load "type1" > Load "vbe" > EndSection In the section above you should not have the Load "GLcore" or Load "dri" when using the nvidia driver. > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Generic Keyboard" > Driver "keyboard" > Option "CoreKeyboard" > Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > Option "XkbLayout" "gb" > EndSection Here you should have Option "XkbRules" "xorg" and Driver "kbd" when using Xorg. > Section "Device" > Identifier "Videocard0" > Driver "nvidia" > VendorName "Videocard vendor" > BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 4 (generic)" > Option "NvAGP" "1" > Option "DigitalVibrance" "2" > Option "TwinView" "1" > Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30-61" > Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "56-76" > Option "TwinViewOrientation" "clone" > Option "TVStandard" "PAL-B" > Option "MetaModes" "1024x768 @024x768,800x600 @800x600" > EndSection Here it looks like a typo in the MetaModes line should be 1024x768 @1024x768. >Section "Screen" > >Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Videocard0" > Monitor"Monitor0" > DefaultDepth 24 > Option "TwinView" > Option "SecondMonitorHorizSync" "30.0 - 61.0" > Option "SecondMonitorVertRefresh" "56.0 - 76.0" > Option "MetaModes" "1280x1024, 800x600 @1280x1024; 1024x768, >1024x768 @1024x768; 1024x768, 1024x768" >SubSection "Display" > Depth 24 > Modes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection I never used twinview but I am certain that the options you have here in the screen section are not needed. >(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X ># I have tried loading this module also and the same happens # >(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X > (EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If > (EE) NVIDIA(0): you continue to encounter problems, Please try > (EE) NVIDIA(0): reinstalling the NVIDIA driver. Now here I think the glcore and dri are interfering with the loading of the nvidia glx remove/comment out the lines and see if that helps. For your TV-Out problem I would suggest checking the Nvnews Linux Forum (1) I have seen a couple of posts on the TV-Out and the 8756 driver perhaps someone has discovered a solution. (1) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14 Stephen -- GPG Pubic Key: http://users.eastlink.ca/~stephencormier/publickey.asc pgppqjS7btCIs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Re: i8253 count too high! resetting..
I was experimenting with a different Linux distro, but... In MS Virtual Server 2005 running on MS Windows Server 2003, this error occurs if the CPU usage is throttled back. This setting located under resource allocation in the management tool. In my case, allocating 100% in the "Maximum Capacity (% of one CPU)" field eliminates the error.
Problems with security.debian.org
Hello list,I've set up a etch testing system. On my way here the installer gave me the warning, that couldn't get the security updates from security.debian.org. It adviced me to look into /etc/apt/sources.list after completing the installation.So here I am, and the sources.list looks like this:deb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch maindeb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch maindeb http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch maindeb-src http://debian.inode.at/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates maindeb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates mainWhen I run apt-get update I get the following output (sorry, chose language german) Hole:1 http://debian.inode.at etch Release.gpg [189B]Hole:2 http://debian.inode.at etch Release [5902B]Hole:3 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]OK http://security.debian.org etch/updates ReleaseOK http://debian.inode.at etch/main PackagesOK http://debian.inode.at etch/main SourcesEs wurden 6092B in 0s geholt (34,5kB/s)Konnte http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release nicht holen Unable to find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)Paketlisten werden gelesen... FertigW: Kann nicht auf die Liste http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages) der Quellpakete zugreifen. - stat (2 Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden) W: Sie möchten vielleicht »apt-get update« aufrufen, um diese Probleme zu lösenE: Einige Indexdateien konnten nicht heruntergeladen werden, sie wurden ignoriert oder alte an ihrer Stelle benutzt.Can anyone give me a hint what to put into /etc/apt/sources.list to make apt-get find all needed files? Thanks,Mo
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
Hello! > Some special keys do not work anymore > = > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 > > Dead keys (ˇ) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like Ž) Try this: setxkbmap -rules "xorg" -model "pc105" -layout "de" This worked for me. After that i can reset the keyboard preference for my Gnome Desktop. But I believe that you have to change the values of the parameter CU Michael -- ,''`. Michael Ott, e-mail: michael at zolnott dot de : :' : Debian SID on Thinkpad T43: `. `'http://www.zolnott.de/laptop/ibm-t43-uc34nge.html `- pgptn1tNsj0uS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: undesired Volume icons on Gnome desktop
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 18:15:25 +0100 Jerome BENOIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello List, > > after my daily upgrade on my Etch box, > I have two undesired Volume icons (besides my Home icon > and the Computer icon) on my desktop: > I guess that I have to configure something to avoid > their apparence as the `native' volumes do not appaer > in sch a way, but I do not know where to look for. > > Any idea ? > > Thanks in advance, > Jerome > Same problem here. I have an icon for a partition mounted under /mnt, but not for /, /boot, and /home. You can disable the display of these icons by toggling the value of the gconf key /apps/nautilus/desktop/volumes_visible. The bad news is that this will also disable the display of icons representing removable media. I have been unable to find a way of fine-tuning the behaviour of nautilus. -- Liam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network connection
Thanks to both of you.I haven't got an idea why the network didn't work. I've reinstalled the system, and now it works fine. I've also installed the openssh-server, now I can work over the putty connection. But, unfortunetly, I have a new problem (I cannot connect to security.debian.org).I will open a new Thread with the right headline...Thanks again,Mo
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On 13 Apr 2006, George Borisov wrote: > David Purton wrote: > > > > x-cursor-theme is no longer respected by xorg. You get the default X > > cursors no matter what. > > Quoted from a post earlier today: > > --- > > The easiest way to work around this seems to be creating a symlink in > ~/.icons of your regular user: > > $ mkdir ~/.icons # if it does not exist already > $ cd ~/.icons > $ ln -s /usr/share/icons/whiteglass default > Thanks for this tip; never knew any way to do this. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft-free zone - Using Linux Gnu-Debian http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, on-line books and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xorg 7.0 in unstable for amd64 architecture has unmet dependencies
David Broome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Package: xorg > Version: 7:1:0:10 > > Hello. > I don't see this reported and just wanted to make sure since I have never > file a bug report before. > > When upgrade to xorg 1:7.0 in unstable, it has unmet dependencies. Here is > the > output: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies. > xorg: Depends: xfonts-base (>= 1:1.0.0-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 is to be > installed > Depends: xfonts-100dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 is to be > installed > Depends: xfonts-75dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 is to be > installed > Depends: xfonts-scalable (>= 1:1.0.0-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 is to be > installed Those are not architecture specific. > Depends: xbase-clients (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 is to be > installed This is currently building. > Depends: xutils (>= 1:1.0.1-1) but 6.9.0.dfsg.1-6 is to be > installed There the current version is 1:7.0.0-3 What mirror are you using? The above is true for debian.org. Does your apt prefer testing? In other words: What is the output of "apt-cache policy xutils"? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles - OT
Am I the only one who has managed to upgrade Xorg without anything breaking (did it earlier this morning)? :-o That said, I don't use KDE... -- George Borisov DXSolutions Ltd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Xorg upgrade troubles
On Thu, Apr 13, 2006 at 01:36:00PM +0200, ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote: > I agree, but only partially. > > look - STABLE is too outdated for desktop, TESTING is often broken > more than unstable (mainly missing dependancies or completely missing > apps (e.g. K3b was absent from testing for many months!)). SID > appears to be the best choice for Debian desktop (regardless to what > official policy states) and as such it is chosen by many. > > Yes, I am ready do deal with minor breakages. However, X not > starting, KDE ot starting ... this is not a minor problem but a fatal > show stopper. This proves lack of software quality testing in the > Debian release model. In my opinion the released Xorg 7 package > belongs still to experimental. I dunno 'bout proof of anything re: QC from the current status of Sid (which I run), but I Can say that I've learned to pay attention to good subject headers when I scan the list for goodies to read. It was obvious after a 3 day break to the beach that Sid had some troubles. Some of those headers were worded almost exactly like yours. No upgrading at the moment... More power to those who write good Subject lines! ;-) (I guess I run my own QC department.) I think it's a bit tough to test every gawd-ahwfuhl configuration if you are one of the (few) maintainers for a given package in this great distro. My hat's off to every last one of them! Kenward > > -Original Message- > > From: Joey Hess [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:41 PM > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > Subject: Re: Xorg upgrade troubles > > > > ?á?ek Kry?tof wrote: > > > Well, this transition could have been prepared better - > > testing stuff > > > in such state on human beings is not ethical. > > > > People running unstable are expected and required to be able to do the > > following: > > > > * Deal with minor breakages. > > * Report bug reports when things break. > > > > This is well documented an there is nothing unethical about it. > > > > > X did not start > > > == > > > The symbolic link /etc/X11/X was wrongly set to /bin/true Should be > > > set to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg > > > > > > KDM did not start > > > = > > > /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc contains wrong line: > > > ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X... there is no such file > > > > > > should be > > > > > > ServerCmd=/usr/bin/X11/Xorg or better /etc/X11/X > > > > > > Keyboard layout tool error > > > == > > > kxkb not working anymore > > > > > > I had to install xkb-data > > > > > > Some special keys do not work anymore > > > = > > > Cannot switch to virtual consoles with Alt-Ctrl-F1 > > > > > > Dead keys (?) do not work anymore (e.g. for characters like ?) > > > > Please use reportbug to file bug reports on the appropriate > > packages for these problems. > > > > -- > > see shy jo > > > > > -- In a completely rational society, the best of us would aspire to be _teachers_ and the rest of us would have to settle for something less, because passing civilization along from one generation to the next ought to be the highest honor and the highest responsibility anyone could have. - Lee Iacocca -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
