trying to improve my video quality with '855resolution'.
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Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
-- From: Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sunday 16 April 2006 01:17, Lynn Kilroy wrote: > It seems to me, that if your client removes everything below > > -- > > then that is a bug. Please correct me if I'm wrong? That's not a bug, but a feature one should be aware of. Ahh, but I wasn't aware of it, and I had never, prior to joining this group, heard of this convention. Total news to me. Don't mind me though. My first computer operating job was on a Honeywell DPS-6 running GCOS MOD 6 - a computer and OS designed around 1970. I don't have any real computer experience to speak of. Love & Friendship & Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you grow brocolli?
From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 08:23 +0200, steef wrote: > < snip > > > > but: i could tell you a lot about potatoes; especially the older very > > > tasty potato-races from the dutch clay. ask me - offline - what you want > > > to know about p.e. redstar, bildstar, irene etc.: you are wellcome. > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > steef > > > > Maybe I'm just hungry :) > > > ..in that case grab what you can and fry them in olive-oil. prepared with > some garlic. or just cook them and eat them with some salt and butter Velveeta. There's nothing like broccoli smothered in Velveeta. A little gravy base. A lot of water. Some milk. And your favorite flavor of shredded cheese. Yum! Love & Friendship & Blessed Be! Lynn Erika Kilroy _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: debian as a sever OS
On Thursday 20 April 2006 02:23, Deephay wrote: > Greetings all, > > I am wondering that if it is safe to using the testing distro (now > Etch) as the server's OS. > Any comment is appreciated very much. > thx! > > Deepahy I have a small business and if my servers are down, I'm not making money. It's up to you, of course, but the ONLY version of ANY distro I trust on my servers is Debian Stable. I *know* that, except for one bug with aptitude and grub menus, that if I use "aptitude upgrade" that my servers will keep working. That is not always true with Testing. You can do an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade with Testing and, even if bugs are not listed, you could still end up with important programs not working. In most cases, you can get the functions most systems need from Stable. Is the chance of an important function on your server not working worth the features not yet in Stable? Like I said, it's your choice, but I'm not going to let my clients ever see me with a moment of downtime that I can prevent. You may feel otherwise. Just my pigheaded, arrogant, self-righteous comments. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
debian as a sever OS
Greetings all, I am wondering that if it is safe to using the testing distro (now Etch) as the server's OS. Any comment is appreciated very much. thx! Deepahy
Re: apt-update errors
On Thu, Apr 20, 2006 at 09:52:25PM +, Rob Blomquist wrote: > W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY D5642BC86823D007 > W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.tuke.sk sarge-backports Release: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: > NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C > W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures > couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY > 07DC563D1F41B907 > W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems > > I see that I need a public key to get though these errors, but I am clueless > how to obtain and install these items. Have you gone to the sites and looked for a key? Do you have 'debian-archive-keyring' installed? That will cover official mirrors. Unofficial ones will have keys listed on their website somewhere, or you can ignore the errors and say 'y' when it asks you to install unauthenticated packages (if you trust the source). At least I think you can. An example of how to import a key can be found here: ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/faq.html -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- abuse me. I'm so lame I sent a bug report to debian-devel-changes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]
On 2006-04-19, Wayne Topa penned: >> > > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: > 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' It must be considered harmful by somebody: http://gmane.org/faq.php [quote] But I did use a valid email address. Perhaps you did in your From, but your Reply-To address pointed to the mailing list. Don't do that. [/quote] Other than that (and I'm not sure why they don't like it), it sounds like a reasonable approach to me. -- monique Help us help you: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i810 and vesa drivers..
I have been experimenting with Debian on a Fujitsu P7120 which has an Intel 915GMS video graphics chip. Debian etch configured Xorg.conf to use the vesa driver, but the i810 driver seems to work as well, and after installing 915resolution both support the full 1280x768 screen resolution. i810(4) lists 915GM as amoungst the chipsets supported (not sure how that differes from my 915GMS) so I assume it is the better one to use. Anything I should test to make sure that it is fully functional, or optimizations I should try? Are any of these warnings from /var/log/Xorg.0.log any cause for concern? (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic" does not exist. (WW) The directory "/usr/lib/X11/fonts/CID" does not exist. (WW) I810: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (WW) I810(0): Bad V_BIOS checksum (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed. (WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (WW) I810(0): Setting the original video mode instead of restoring (WW) I810(0): Extended BIOS function 0x5f05 failed. (WW) I810(0): Successfully set original devices (2) I am also curious about what this 915resolution does. I assume there is a table of resolutions in the BIOS which is copied to ram during boot, but I can't see the point in having a table that doesn't include all valid modes and can be patched like this. Anyone know any background to this? Thanks, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RAID Sizes (was Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?)
Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Nope. Both the "K" and the "k" have been used in electronics > to mean "times 1000" since I got involved in about 1965 or so. That might be. But, SI standard only knows about "k". Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > There isn't anything non-ISO about "ä", including it in a message doesn't > make > it "not text only". Right. > The "ae" is a poorman form of "æ". In German it is perfectly legitimate to use "ae" instead of "ä" if you can not use that for what ever reason. It is just ugly. The character "æ" is used nowhere in German. Matthias
Re: Grub + CD-ROM
Hans du Plooy wrote:
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 12:06 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
I wish it was that simple, but it's not CDs I made. It's *any* bootable
CD. My SUSE DVD, or example, that boots quite happily on my PC.
Oh well, I'll keep trying.
Then we're back to: You likely have a hardware problem.
I guess so. I put the original 512mb dimm that I got the notebook with
back today, and it didn't resolve the problem.
The only thing that bugs me then is why I can happily boot off a CD in
VMware.
Because when VMware is in control, it's not the BIOS doing it.
Mike
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Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
Magnus Therning wrote:
I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people
sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to
the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice,
especially on mailing lists that are open for everyone to post to (as
opposed to open only to subscribers). What I can't quite understand is
why no-one has tried to solve this "problem". Or maybe I just don't know
about it?
AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like
mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders
preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint
when the user replies to a mailing list.
What do you think?
/M
I think that
(1) There are already two factions rallied on this point.
(2) You are going to start a flame war.
Mike
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Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Wulfy wrote:
Digby Tarvin wrote:
ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in
a standard way.
Unicode is text... just not ASCII.
So is Hiragana. So is Kanji. So is Arabic. So is Hebrew. So is Cyrillic.
So?
When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic capital 'D' between
the 'J' and the 'germeister'. If I use vi or cat to view the message, I
see 'J=E4germeister' or 'J0xe4germeister', which is less than clear..
Not if you have your locale set to a UTF-8 locale like en_GB-UTF-8...
Which was my point. Using "Jaegermeister" is locale independent.
[snip]
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apt-update errors
W: GPG error: http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D5642BC86823D007 W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.tuke.sk sarge-backports Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EA8E8B2116BA136C W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems I see that I need a public key to get though these errors, but I am clueless how to obtain and install these items. Rob -- Mountlake Terrace, WA, USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QT Designer errors
Marc Shapiro wrote: > Jan Schledermann wrote: > >> >>Those headers should reside in /usr/include/qt3, in a standard debian >>install. > the program compiled without error, but... Can anyone tell me what I > need to set in Designer so that it will use libqt-mt automatically, for > all compiles, so that I don't have to remember to manually change > Makefile each time? > What I always do, is to only install the multi-threaded stuff. Then yu get it by default. Compiling other peoples stuff most of the time involves running the configure script which also correctly sees the mt libraries. regards Jan -- ** Do not use the reply-to address. It'll end up in the trash can ** Mail me at: janATschledermann.or"REMOVE_THIS"g -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
open source Solution for Active Directory Services
Dear all,I want to know the open source solution for Windows Active directory Services (ADS).My primary Goal is to set up a Linux box having Directory where all other mix of Windows and Linux client will join to this domain. Most of the client machines would be windows xp. I have already googled for this requirement and understood that it can be done with Open LDAP and Samba, but I would love here the experience of the people who have already implemented this solution.Can someone please suggest me a open source solution or detailed document to how to go about? Thanks in advance.Best regardsSatya
Re: Udev problem
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:39:09PM +0100, Wulfy wrote: > I was updating my Sarge system using the backports.org repository. > Foolishly, I updated Udev... which promptly told me it needed a later > kernel. I downgraded back to the one I had before. > > Now I'm getting problems from a couple of packages I installed at the > same time: libgphoto2 and alsa-utils (which sorta broke at the same time). > > I'm getting the following lines in the log: > > Apr 19 18:10:12 localhost udev[7046]: parse error > /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules, line 3:13, rule skipped > Apr 19 18:10:12 localhost udev[7046]: parse error > /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules, line 4:39, rule skipped > Apr 19 18:10:12 localhost udev[7046]: parse error > /etc/udev/rules.d/025_libgphoto2.rules, line 933:28, rule skipped > Apr 19 18:10:12 localhost udev[7046]: parse error > /etc/udev/rules.d/z60_alsa-utils.rules, line 1:38, rule skipped > > > I've attached the rules files. As udev rules might as well be written > in Klingon as far as I'm concerned, I'm hoping someone who understands > this can help... I've been struggling with udev too. I think you've been caught by its rapid changes. More recent udevs depend on more recent (post-stock Sarge) kernels and apparently implement features that the older udev didn't. I assume that the errors come from an older udev trying to parse a file intended only for a newer udev. Changing a package doesn't necessarily change the config files, which are what are giving you problems. If you can do a purge, not just remove, of the affected packages and then reinstall them you'll probably fix your problem. Alternatively, you could plunge ahead into the exciting world of testing, aka etch. But if your goal is stability, reversion is probably safer. Others on the list may be able to contribute more elegant solutions. Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian, X and ATI Radeon X1300
Vitaliy Ischenko wrote: > The better choice for linux systems will be Nvidia (latest drivers > [closed-source] support 7400,7800 & 7900 > > P.S. That's my opinion :) nVidia released less information to create free drivers than ATI. Their binary-only drivers are probably good but what about other architectures, what if nVidia stops supporting the chipset you have on your card with drivers for newer versions of X? How about running a kernel without binary-only drivers? Why can't nVidia release documentation for older chipsets? And who needs the newer graphics oven anyway ;) HS -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.org
Re: Grabbing a RM stream for offline viewing
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:07:15PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > wget and mimms are both choking on this > one, "rtsp://host.example.org/directory/file.rm" I really don't have > the time to view it online. > > Is there something like mimms for "real" streams? mplayer -ao pcm:file=filename.wav -vo dummy -vc dummy rtsp://host.domain/dir/file The above assumes you only want to capture the audio. Otherwise do the -vo differently. You can get mplayer from Christian Marillat's site. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Grabbing a RM stream for offline viewing
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:07:15PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote: > wget and mimms are both choking on this > one, "rtsp://host.example.org/directory/file.rm" I really don't have > the time to view it online. > > Is there something like mimms for "real" streams? mplayer can do it (with the right codecs, of course): mplayer -nojoystick -nolirc -really-quiet -vo null -ao pcm:file=/tmp/blah.pcm -vc dummy rtsp://host.example.org/directory/file.rm If you replace '/tmp/blah.pcm' with the path of a FIFO and then pipe that into lame, you can make it spit out an mp3 file, instead of the huge pcm that the above line gives you... (audio only, here. no idea what needs to be done with video streams). Cheers, Paul -- Paul Dwerryhouse| PGP Key ID: 0x6B91B584 A look at Ubuntu Dapper Flight 5: http://nepotismia.com/review/ubuntu/dapper_flight_5/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Does Audigy 2 / Audigy 2 ZS work in Debian?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 20:32 -0700, Stevan Krov wrote: > Hello list, > > I am looking for a decent sound card that can work well with Debian. I found > some good prices for Audigy 2 and Audigy 2 ZS (not platinum nor pro), but the > reports regarding these cards are mixed. Some say it's working, some say it's > not working at all. Google wasn't very helpful. The alsa site lists some > models of Audigy, but not the above mentioned. It's also very important that > the mic input is fully functional. I will be very thankful for any > information and experience you share. > > Kind regards, > Stevan > > I use a alsa 2ZS card and it works perfectly. -- LostSon http://www.lostsonsvault.org /\ \ \ \__/ \__/ \ \ (oo) (oo) \_\/~~\_/~~\_ _.-~===~-._ (___) \___/ I Want To Believe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
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Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 11:44, Digby Tarvin wrote: > If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using > graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to > ASCII text. > > I am in the UK, but I never try to use shift-3 to insert a pound symbol > into an email, because I know that not everyone uses a compatable character > set. But the character set is defined by the header. If your system can't determine and display the right character set, it's time to go spend $40 for an old 486, a Debian CD and some lunch. Besides, it's a very reasonable expectation for anybody on an English speaking list to be using ISO-Latin-1, Latin-15, UTF8 or ASCII, which save for ASCII have everything in common for the characters I know how to type. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpm2wzQhwycm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Does Audigy 2 / Audigy 2 ZS work in Debian?
Hello list, I am looking for a decent sound card that can work well with Debian. I found some good prices for Audigy 2 and Audigy 2 ZS (not platinum nor pro), but the reports regarding these cards are mixed. Some say it's working, some say it's not working at all. Google wasn't very helpful. The alsa site lists some models of Audigy, but not the above mentioned. It's also very important that the mic input is fully functional. I will be very thankful for any information and experience you share. Kind regards, Stevan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 23:05 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 22:35, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 21:09 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:49, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > > > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > Except, maybe, for gold pressed latinum... > > > > What *is* gold pressed latinum (in the ST universe, of course)? > > Ron, there's a really neat site called the Wikipedia > (www.wikipedia.org). It's almost like an encyclopedia, but it has > entries for a lot of fictional characters, TV shows, and such. If you > can't find "gold pressed latinum", try looking up latinum. > > I think you'll find the site quite useful. Yeah, but I'm Here, not There. And you're such a ST:TNG/DS9 fan, I figured you'd know it off the top of your head. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds. Biochemistry is the study of carbon compounds that crawl." Mike Adams -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Grabbing a RM stream for offline viewing
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 wget and mimms are both choking on this one, "rtsp://host.example.org/directory/file.rm" I really don't have the time to view it online. Is there something like mimms for "real" streams? Curt- - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBREaYfi9Y35yItIgBAQIHwwf/dHfzY1pqFZ6VqrOFYZhCXrzJM4WsV5zF 7H2FjlfsBDca/nbZwdg/JkTDWi5osYlOcF7+i/GecsPHRgBG4WeHRuy7sUHc5VWt 6gtCfYZr368WqoVW8eUHR81v2M+gIcBF0zPCCn4W3Xpar1BDAS7S1J3O9IpIr0be drAdrY6y9h7tEXGnudP205lT/iiVOe+eThwfVHCgzJZ5jMcXv2qULh5AiwPSF04m cyephTJD1c+hA6SqCwoU0Kvoh8dmKCq9QTYXdqu+RVu5wVKjc3lNFypMqRxryOkW Vg+bvGMTs0ppEnylGbnPq0pFbkKYR7gcSuTQoarKmYMHMtNr1dHDZQ== =vY0T -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:09, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > > > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > > > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a > > > hint when the user replies to a mailing list. > > > > Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make > > it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if > > you are posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have > > "Reply to Mailing List." > > A list depending on Policy is as naive as the Democrats believing > that school busing would back black children get better educations. Wow, racist /and/ retarded. We expect better from you, Ron... -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpsm72MUwLta.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 19:34, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:27 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i > > > > couldn't get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there. > > > > > > When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more notice > > > from those of us who don't want on-board video. > > > > But they do. I distinctly remember installing about a hundred Intel > > i880-based Intel video cards circa 1998. > > "Do" or "did"? ISTR i740 cards, which flopped. Did, and i740 sounds more familiar than 880 in retrospect. > Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do > 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd > strongly think about buying one the next time I need one. Which is why I got my hopes up when I heard that. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpY8qs5FOEBN.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: 2 tmpfs filesystems mounted?
dev/hda8 7.4G 3.8G 3.2G 55% / tmpfs 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda4 6.8G 1.6G 4.9G 24% /home2 /dev/hda3 5.3G 1.8G 3.3G 35% /data /dev/hda5 24G 21G 2.9G 88% /mnt/d /dev/hda6 24G 20G 3.6G 85% /mnt/e tmpfs 252M 3.8M 248M 2% /tmp tmpfs 10M 116K 9.9M 2% /dev my computer mount three tmpfs; is the useful of the /dev/shm??? 2006/4/20, Adam Hardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Florian Kulzer on 19/04/06 12:29, wrote: > >>> why don't you post those messages and we can all pitch in... unless > >>> you're worried that'll bring about an early demise? ;) > >> I see stuff in syslog and in boot and yet I can't see the relevant stuff > >> which I see scroll past when I'm booting. > >> > >> There's no 'boot' facility/priority in the syslog.conf, so how is it > >> controlled? > > > > You can set > > > > BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes > > > > in /etc/default/bootlogd. This should catch all output on the console > > during most of the boot process and put it in a log file in /var/log. > > For the earliest part of the boot process you would need to set up > > logging to a serial console and use a second computer to record that. > > However, sometimes the ScrollLock key is good enough to allow you to > > read the stuff that is scrolling by. > > Scroll lock works? I never thought I could stop Linux with the scroll > lock key. > > My /var/logs/boot file contains a fair amount of stuff, but with scroll > lock I should be able to pick up the most interesting stuff. > > OK just did that and now that I can actually read it, it's all fine, > there's no problem at all. > > I can see where the bootlogger kicks in as well. > > Thanks anyway, > > Adam > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
RE: GForce video card, upgrading Xorg
Gforce: Downloaded Nvidia proprietary driver which built a kernel module and installed no sweat. Card works fine. Tuxracer/PlanetPenguin sails! Flightgear, the most GLUTonous application I have [SIC] :-), runs the way planetpenguin used to. In other words, blows that ati mach64 away. Now, no longer needing the "dri-trunk" packages, I updated Xorg and this removed all the previsous dri stuff which I thought I can now live with out. Restarting X. Nothing. Xorg.0.log is your friend. It was not finding modules. Locate cited them in the old dri directories (I might have moved them there myself at some point). Of course, I had made a copy so starting copying these modules to the main modules directory. Retry, need more, copy, retry, need more ... so much easier just to place the dri-save directory in the ModulesPath list, now last. Voile. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 22:35, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 21:09 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:49, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > [snip] > > > Except, maybe, for gold pressed latinum... > > What *is* gold pressed latinum (in the ST universe, of course)? Ron, there's a really neat site called the Wikipedia (www.wikipedia.org). It's almost like an encyclopedia, but it has entries for a lot of fictional characters, TV shows, and such. If you can't find "gold pressed latinum", try looking up latinum. I think you'll find the site quite useful. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
Ron Johnson wrote: What *is* gold pressed latinum (in the ST universe, of course)? It's what every Ferengi loves more than his mother... money! :) -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 21:09 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:49, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > > Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] > > Except, maybe, for gold pressed latinum... What *is* gold pressed latinum (in the ST universe, of course)? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Americans hate foreign policy because Americans hate foreigners, because they *are* foreigners, and came to this country to get away from the bad things." P.J. O'Rourke, satirist, 2004-06-25, Fox News Channel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 17:27 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > > > get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there. > > > > When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more notice > > from those of us who don't want on-board video. > > But they do. I distinctly remember installing about a hundred Intel > i880-based Intel video cards circa 1998. "Do" or "did"? ISTR i740 cards, which flopped. Still, if they come out with reasonably priced cards that can do 3D like an NVIDIA FX 5200 using the nvidia binary driver, I'd strongly think about buying one the next time I need one. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace." Dwight D Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
Digby Tarvin wrote: ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. Unicode is text... just not ASCII. When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic capital 'D' between the 'J' and the 'germeister'. If I use vi or cat to view the message, I see 'J=E4germeister' or 'J0xe4germeister', which is less than clear.. Not if you have your locale set to a UTF-8 locale like en_GB-UTF-8... If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to ASCII text. I looked at his original message using both vi and cat. It came through OK. It's a matter of locale and fonts not "text". I am in the UK, but I never try to use shift-3 to insert a pound symbol into an email, because I know that not everyone uses a compatable character set. Of course in a person to person email, if you know what your correspondent is using then it is OK, but definately a bad idea on a public list. Regards, DigbyT -- Blessings Wulfmann Wulf Credo: Respect the elders. Teach the young. Co-operate with the pack. Play when you can. Hunt when you must. Rest in between. Share your affections. Voice your opinion. Leave your Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 03:00 +0100, Doofus wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > > >>On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > >>>mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > >>>preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > >>>when the user replies to a mailing list. > >>> > >>> > >>Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make > >>it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if > >>you are posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have > >>"Reply to Mailing List." > >> > >> > > > >A list depending on Policy is as naive as the Democrats believing > >that school busing would back black children get better educations. > > > > Oh dear. I sense another three hundred post thread coming... > I'm off to prepare tomorrow's brocolli. Then how about some balance: A list depending on Policy is as naive as Republicans thinking that the Iraq War would be easy. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 'social sciences' is: some do, some don't" Ernest Rutherford -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:50:06AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 09:33, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Paul Johnson wrote: > > > Nope, it's J?germeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. > > > > Pardon, but in this context the appropriate form is to expand > > the umlaut. It is inappropriate to put characters like that > > into a text-only message. > > There isn't anything non-ISO about "?", including it in a message doesn't > make > it "not text only". The "ae" is a poorman form of "?". ISO is not the same as text. Most character sets only display ASCII in a standard way. When I read your original message I see a Cyrillic capital 'D' between the 'J' and the 'germeister'. If I use vi or cat to view the message, I see 'J=E4germeister' or 'J0xe4germeister', which is less than clear.. If you want your message to be understood by people that are not using graphical applications to read their email then it is best to stick to ASCII text. I am in the UK, but I never try to use shift-3 to insert a pound symbol into an email, because I know that not everyone uses a compatable character set. Of course in a person to person email, if you know what your correspondent is using then it is OK, but definately a bad idea on a public list. Regards, DigbyT -- Digby R. S. Tarvin digbyt(at)digbyt.com http://www.digbyt.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]
Matthew R. Dempsky([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > > Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how > > > to get muttng to put it in mails. > > > > > > > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' > > Are you recommending this because muttng broke mutt's excellent > Mail-Followup-To support, or just because you think it's a > quicker/better fix to the problem? No, just because I have had it setup that for years wt -- "As part of the conversion, computer specialists rewrote 1,500 programs; a process that traditionally requires some debugging. -- USA Today, referring to the IRS switchover to a new computer system. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB will not load
i'm sorry the exact message it is displaying for lilo is L 99 99 99 99 99 and so forth.Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:47:50PM -0700, Xplicit Language wrote:> i see other people have been having a similar issue with GRUB not loading,> my issue is from a hdd, after installation, GRUB loaded fine on this > computer when i was testing to see if i would be interested in > trying out linux, but when i transferred the hdd and formatted and > reinstalled GRUB would and still will not load, i waited nearly a > hour.> What exactly was the last message on the screen while you were waiting for grub to load?-- If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes thanrhubarb does.-- Groucho Marx-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: GRUB will not load
the last message was GRUB loader something 1.5. GRUB loading, please wait... i also just found the lilo boot loader and installed that after repartitioning and installing, and this loader is displaying for the last few minutes 9 1/2 lines of 99 99 99 99, i am installing these loaders to the root partition, should i try installing elsewhere or is the problem going to persist? > > >Bill Marcum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:47:50PM -0700, Xplicit Language wrote:> i see other people have been having a similar issue with GRUB not loading,> my issue is from a hdd, after installation, GRUB loaded fine on this > computer when i was testing to see if i would be interested in > trying out linux, but when i transferred the hdd and formatted and > reinstalled GRUB would and still will not load, i waited nearly a > hour.> What exactly was the last message on the screen while you were waiting for grub to load?-- If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes thanrhubarb does.-- Groucho Marx-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.
Problems compiling (any) modules
I decided to switch from using kernel.org kernels to debian ones, as space is not an issue and I like the package management system. However, I need the madwifi module to have network access, so I installed linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7 (yes, I do have a k7, so it's not that). I ran a 'make-kpkg debian' in the /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.16-1-k7 directory, and got no errors, so I proceeded to run 'make-kpkg modules_image'. This spat out the error: The UTS Release version in include/linux/version.h "2.6.16-1-k7" does not match current version: "2.6.16" Please correct this. make: *** [modules_image] Error 2 and died. I tried deleting the madwifi directory and trying with alsa-source, to the same end, so I don't think it's something in the module. And, for reference, I'm not running a kernel 2.6.16, I'm currently running 2.6.17-rc1. The first line when I tried to make the modules_image was: exec debian/rules DEBIAN_REVISION=2.6.16-10.00.Custom modules_image which is, I suspect, part of the problem, but I'm not sure. I don't know the gritty details of the kernel, building the kernel and modules 'just worked' before, so I would appreciate some help in figurinig out how to solve this problem. TIA, -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- "Why can't we ever attempt to solve a problem in this country without having a 'War' on it?" -- Rich Thomson, talk.politics.misc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Updating to Etch from CD...
Redefined Horizons wrote: > I just burned the 16 CDs for Debian Etch. I am currently running Debian > Sarge, and would like to update my OS. I don't have a connection to the > internet on my Debian box. Can I update to Etch with the CDs I burned? > > What is the procedure? > > Thanks, > > Scott Huey man apt-cdrom -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:49, Johannes Wiedersich wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > that. I do know a friend of mine looked (a photo professor) at > > figures and said that the ink in any photo printer was more > > expensive per ounce than the most expensive Parisian perfumes. He > > also told me it costs more per photo to use a home printer to print > > them than it does to use film and have it developed. > > If you exclude the water and alcohol content of the ink (that will > evaporate anyway once the ink is in place, and which is the cheapest > part of ink production), you will find that your printer's ink is > more expensive than platin or almost any other material you could > possibly buy... Except, maybe, for gold pressed latinum... Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: grub-install in chroot not respected? [solved]
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:20PM +0100, Wackojacko wrote: > Christopher Nelson wrote: > >this appeared to have worked, as did subsequent 'grub-install's, but > >when I rebooted, I was back in my debian setup on hdb, not the one on > >hda. > > Just a guess but you probably have grub installed on hdb also and the > BIOS may be set to boot from this instead of hda. Try changing the boot > order in the BIOS. > > If still no success disconnect hdb and see if hda will boot. I did indeed have grub install on hdb, but the boot order in BIOS was correct. I tried disconnecting hdb but got "error 21". What ended up working for me was editting the boot stanza in grub to point to my hda install, then running grub-install from there. Still don't know why it didn't work in the chroot though, would be interested to find out. -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Send some filthy mail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
Ron Johnson wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list. Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if you are posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have "Reply to Mailing List." A list depending on Policy is as naive as the Democrats believing that school busing would back black children get better educations. Oh dear. I sense another three hundred post thread coming... I'm off to prepare tomorrow's brocolli. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB will not load
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:47:50PM -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > i see other people have been having a similar issue with GRUB not loading, > my issue is from a hdd, after installation, GRUB loaded fine on this > computer when i was testing to see if i would be interested in > trying out linux, but when i transferred the hdd and formatted and > reinstalled GRUB would and still will not load, i waited nearly a > hour. > What exactly was the last message on the screen while you were waiting for grub to load? -- If you stew apples like cranberries, they taste more like prunes than rhubarb does. -- Groucho Marx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 07:49:18PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how > > to get muttng to put it in mails. > > > > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' Are you recommending this because muttng broke mutt's excellent Mail-Followup-To support, or just because you think it's a quicker/better fix to the problem? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 17:08, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > > get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there. > > When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more notice > from those of us who don't want on-board video. But they do. I distinctly remember installing about a hundred Intel i880-based Intel video cards circa 1998. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpLSQPtYHcEz.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: SATA RAID 0 in Debian [solved]
Michael Schurter wrote: > listrcv wrote: > > Michael Schurter wrote: > > > The drives were setup on an old motherboard that died, and I can't > seem to find a way to get the crappy Windows SATA RAID utility to > recognize the drives as an existing RAID array. > >>> > >>> > >>> Your screwed unless you can find a board that has the same IDE > >>> controller on it > >> > >> Actually, I found a great Ubuntu forum on the topic, and the command > >> "dmraid -ay" autodetected the RAID without problems. Quite > >> impressive! I was able to copy files off of the RAID and then I'm > >> going to set it back up in Windows so both Windows and Linux can see it. > > > > Huh? How does that work? Did you set it up as Windoze software RAID on > > the old board (independant of the controller on that board), and Ubuntu > > features access to such a RAID? > > Windows requires software to see the RAID, however I'm not sure if it > was a software RAID. Sorry for lack of detail, but its a point on which > I'm still unclear myself. > > I do know there's a very simple RAID setup screen you can access after > BIOS during boot, so the motherboard has some innate RAID capabilities. > Obviously I'm not an expert in the ways of RAID arrays. :) All I > know is the result was pretty miraculous. > > Michael Schurter I'd like to just post some general info about what I've found out about 'dmraid' (Device-Mapper RAID); http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/FAQ http://www.linuxmanpages.com/man8/dmraid.8.php and a very detailed and current link; "Serial ATA (SATA) chipsets Linux support status" (Revised: Mon Mar 13 10:09:21 PST 2006) http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html Also - from what I know about Windoze XP and RAID; XP requires you to "Press F6 to load any 3rd party SCSI/RAID [SATA] Drivers" during the very beginning of the Installation/Setup process. This is usually done using a Floppy disk, but one can also 'slipstream' the whole installation, including drivers for SATA/RAID/SCSI controllers. Besides the fact that many Mobo Onboard RAID Controllers utilize and purport to be "hardware' RAID, and while they do utilize a Chip (either part of the Chipset, or a Separate 3rd Party Chip) - they are usually "software' based and run (emulated in a sense). I *guess* similar to what Winmodems do/did. Negating that circumstance - there's also windoze so-called "Dynamic Disks", which ranges from using DynamicDisks as a LVM, to creating softRAID arrays - but which have many limitations as far as creating/breaking, setting up, reverting back to "Basic Disk" ...not to mention that I *think* one needs to use a *Server Based* Windoze installation (Win2K or Win2K3), just to set up a software RAID using XP. Regards __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
gtksee under sid
Is gtksee under sid working for any one out there? Just wondering because for me it complains glibc found. Just to see if it's not just me, :-). -- Javier --
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
right i see what you meanRon Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote:> i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're> site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't> get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there.When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more noticefrom those of us who don't want on-board video.-- -Ron Johnson, Jr.Jefferson, LA USA"... going to war without France is like going deer huntingwithout an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisybaggage behind."Jed Babbin, former deputy undersecretary of defense in the firstBush administration-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:53 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > > > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > > when the user replies to a mailing list. > > Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make > it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if > you are posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have > "Reply to Mailing List." A list depending on Policy is as naive as the Democrats believing that school busing would back black children get better educations. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Once you get past the ethics, the rest is easy." J. R. Ewing", Dallas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:53 -0700, Xplicit Language wrote: > i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're > site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't > get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there. When Intel makes "stand-alone" video cards, they'll get more notice from those of us who don't want on-board video. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "... going to war without France is like going deer hunting without an accordion. You just leave a lot of useless noisy baggage behind." Jed Babbin, former deputy undersecretary of defense in the first Bush administration -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
i have found a video driver on intel 82810 onboard video on they're site at www.intel.com in the downloads and support section, i couldn't get it to install since i am new to linux, but it was there.Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom.On Apr 18 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote:> From a recent ZDNet article> > http://news.com.com/2102-7344_3-6061491.html?tag=st.util.printYes, I read this very same article with great interest (and what a goodtiming it had, considering our discussion here) and was pleased by whatI read.> I personally value my computing freedoms and believe in what Debian> and the FSF stand for so it looks like Intel will be getting a wad of> my hard earned cash in the near future.The very same here. I don't want to ge tied to a given operating systemand I would like to be able to use my hardware with other systems like,say, OpenBSD (which I have not experienced before).And, for this reason, having a big company like Intel backing thedevelopment of drivers (which, after released, would be "imported" byother projects) is indeed a nice thing that is able to guide my buyingdecisions (and even what I recommend to the Universities where I work,so that I can actually teach the use of Free Tools for students).Regards, Rogério Brito.-- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbritoHomepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.deHomepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
Rogério Brito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom.On Apr 18 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote:> From a recent ZDNet article> > http://news.com.com/2102-7344_3-6061491.html?tag=st.util.printYes, I read this very same article with great interest (and what a goodtiming it had, considering our discussion here) and was pleased by whatI read.> I personally value my computing freedoms and believe in what Debian> and the FSF stand for so it looks like Intel will be getting a wad of> my hard earned cash in the near future.The very same here. I don't want to ge tied to a given operating systemand I would like to be able to use my hardware with other systems like,say, OpenBSD (which I have not experienced before).And, for this reason, having a big company like Intel backing thedevelopment of drivers (which, after released, would be "imported" byother projects) is indeed a nice thing that is able to guide my buyingdecisions (and even what I recommend to the Universities where I work,so that I can actually teach the use of Free Tools for students).Regards, Rogério Brito.-- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbritoHomepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.deHomepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/-- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]
Magnus Therning([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote: > >Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > > > >>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, > >>like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the > >>senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header > >>as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list. > > > >It's not the mailing list software's job, it's yours. Search for the > >'Mail-Followup-To' header. > > Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how > to get muttng to put it in mails. > folder-hook debian-user my_hdr Reply-To: 'debian-user@lists.debian.org' wt -- "Has anyone had problems with the computer accounts?" "Yes, I don't have one." "Okay, you can send mail to one of the tutors ..." -- E. D'Azevedo, Computer Science 372 ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GRUB will not load
i see other people have been having a similar issue with GRUB not loading, my issue is from a hdd, after installation, GRUB loaded fine on this computer when i was testing to see if i would be interested in trying out linux, but when i transferred the hdd and formatted and reinstalled GRUB would and still will not load, i waited nearly a hour. system spec.'s don't laugh plz, just a toy pc slot 1 pentium 2 300mhz processor 65mb sdram 6.5 gig hdd master / dvd rom 16x slave / cdrom 40x floppy drive matrox accelerator 32mb pci or if i put it back in nvidia gforce 2 mx 32 mb agp video card Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.
Supported Video Cards under Free Software (was: Re: Best Video Card)
Hi, Manaen and others interested in Freedom. On Apr 18 2006, Manaen Schlabach wrote: > From a recent ZDNet article > > http://news.com.com/2102-7344_3-6061491.html?tag=st.util.print Yes, I read this very same article with great interest (and what a good timing it had, considering our discussion here) and was pleased by what I read. > I personally value my computing freedoms and believe in what Debian > and the FSF stand for so it looks like Intel will be getting a wad of > my hard earned cash in the near future. The very same here. I don't want to ge tied to a given operating system and I would like to be able to use my hardware with other systems like, say, OpenBSD (which I have not experienced before). And, for this reason, having a big company like Intel backing the development of drivers (which, after released, would be "imported" by other projects) is indeed a nice thing that is able to guide my buying decisions (and even what I recommend to the Universities where I work, so that I can actually teach the use of Free Tools for students). Regards, Rogério Brito. -- Rogério Brito : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://www.ime.usp.br/~rbrito Homepage of the algorithms package : http://algorithms.berlios.de Homepage on freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/projects/algorithms/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sizes and notation
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 09:45:39AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Disk-Drive advertisements are one notable case where things are > confusing, Every disk drive box I've ever taken a good look at had a footnote clarifying that 1 GB = 1000,000,000 bytes. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 15:10, Magnus Therning wrote: > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > when the user replies to a mailing list. Problem already solved. The Debian list guidelines already make it clear that it is not acceptable to CC someone privately if you are posting to the list, and all quality mail clients have "Reply to Mailing List." -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgpCbwPz9m4zB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 14:33, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > >>No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols > > > >>inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, > > > >>and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal > > > >>"y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words > > > > > > > > Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"? > > > > > > Yes, similar, except that should be "Jaegermeister". > > > > Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. > > How do you type "non-American Standard Code for Information Inter- > change" characters? I do it using compose-character-"-a and can't remember how I do it in Windows...stupid alt codes... Besides, even the US uses UTF-8, ISO-8859-1 or -15 now. -- Paul Johnson Email and IM (XMPP & Google Talk): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: Because it's time to move forward http://ursine.ca/Ursine:Jabber pgp2zg5NUUtbg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Grub + CD-ROM
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 05:54 -0700, Willie Wonka wrote: > If for some odd reason, you think it's RAM module/size related, I > suggest you go over your BIOS settings with a fine > toothed-comb...(though I'm guessing) look into settings like "shadow > BIOS", and "Hole at 1MB boundary" (or 15-16MB boundary). Perhaps try; > if there's a "Load Setup Optimized Defaults" (BUT... note ALL your > orig. settings Prior). I'll do that. There isn't a lot in the BIOS though, it's extremely basic. I borrowed my old 512mb dimm back today and tried it on its own - didn't resolve the issue. > May even look into Flashing that BIOS, I'll try that next - maybe something got messed up somehow. > some munged ROM or CMOS/NV-RAM codeHP may also be using an area of > the HDD to *store* your NV-RAM data, and the ROM BIOS is just a > 'pointer' to that *hidden* HDD area. > > try; > # hdparm -I /dev/hda > > By chance - is that a Matsushita DVD-RAM drive ? (or similar?) Yes it is. What's the significance? theluggage ~ # grep hdc /var/log/dmesg ide1: BM-DMA at 0x3018-0x301f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:pio hdc: MATSHITAUJ-840D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive hdc: ATAPI 24X DVD-ROM DVD-R CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, (U)DMA theluggage ~ # Output of hdparm -I /dev/hda - I'm not sure what to look for: theluggage ~ # hdparm -I /dev/hda /dev/hda: ATA device, with non-removable media Model Number: ST9808211A Serial Number: 3LF2LL6S Firmware Revision: 3.02 Standards: Used: ATA/ATAPI-6 T13 1410D revision 2 Supported: 6 5 4 3 Configuration: Logical max current cylinders 16383 65535 heads 16 1 sectors/track 63 63 -- CHS current addressable sectors:4128705 LBAuser addressable sectors: 156301488 LBA48 user addressable sectors: 156301488 device size with M = 1024*1024: 76319 MBytes device size with M = 1000*1000: 80026 MBytes (80 GB) Capabilities: LBA, IORDY(can be disabled) bytes avail on r/w long: 4 Queue depth: 1 Standby timer values: spec'd by Standard, no device specific minimum R/W multiple sector transfer: Max = 16 Current = 16 Advanced power management level: unknown setting (0x8080) Recommended acoustic management value: 254, current value: 0 DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4 *udma5 Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 Cycle time: no flow control=240ns IORDY flow control=120ns Commands/features: Enabled Supported: *READ BUFFER cmd *WRITE BUFFER cmd *Look-ahead *Write cache *Power Management feature set Security Mode feature set *SMART feature set *FLUSH CACHE EXT command *Mandatory FLUSH CACHE command Device Configuration Overlay feature set *48-bit Address feature set SET MAX security extension *Advanced Power Management feature set *DOWNLOAD MICROCODE cmd *SMART self-test *SMART error logging Security: Master password revision code = 65534 supported not enabled not locked frozen not expired: security count not supported: enhanced erase HW reset results: CBLID- above Vih Device num = 0 determined by CSEL Checksum: correct theluggage ~ # Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 05:06:42PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:53 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > > >>No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols > > > > > >>inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, > > > > > >>and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal > > > > > >>"y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, similar, except that should be "Jaegermeister". > > > > > > > > Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. > > > > > > How do you type "non-American Standard Code for Information Inter- > > > change" characters? > > > > NASCII, obviously. sheesh. > > > > you know, that thing you use to start your NASCAR?! > > NASCAR races are s boring. Gimme NHRA drag races (top fuel, > of course) any day. F1 baby, all the way. hell, what I really want is more GP motorcycles... but so it goes. Don't think by the above that I'm a fan of NASCAR, BTW... A > > -- > - > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > > "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three > requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all > is lost." > Gustave Flaubert > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub + CD-ROM
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 12:06 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > I wish it was that simple, but it's not CDs I made. It's *any* bootable > > CD. My SUSE DVD, or example, that boots quite happily on my PC. > > > > Oh well, I'll keep trying. > > Then we're back to: You likely have a hardware problem. I guess so. I put the original 512mb dimm that I got the notebook with back today, and it didn't resolve the problem. The only thing that bugs me then is why I can happily boot off a CD in VMware. Thanks Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:10:58PM +0100, Magnus Therning wrote: > I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people > sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to > the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice, > especially on mailing lists that are open for everyone to post to (as > opposed to open only to subscribers). What I can't quite understand is > why no-one has tried to solve this "problem". Or maybe I just don't know > about it? > > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > when the user replies to a mailing list. > > What do you think? Can open? check. Worms in can? check. ready??? spill worms! A > > /M > > -- > Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://therning.org/magnus > > Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. > Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship > by patent law on written works. > > Of course I laugh at my own jokes. You can't trust strangers. > -- Phyllis Diller signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Mail-Followup-To in muttng? [was Re: Thought on receiving two answers...]
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:21:04PM +0100, Alec Berryman wrote: >Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > >>AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, >>like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the >>senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header >>as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list. > >It's not the mailing list software's job, it's yours. Search for the >'Mail-Followup-To' header. Cool, never heard of that one before. Now I only need to figure out how to get muttng to put it in mails. /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. If our ideas of intellectual property are wrong, we must change them, improve them and return them to their original purpose. When intellectual property rules diminish the supply of new ideas, they steal from all of us. -- Andrew Brown, November 19, 2005, The Guardian pgp3tJK3NwiDF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: grub-install in chroot not respected?
Christopher Nelson wrote: I was trying to move all my debian stuff to one harddisk, so I created an identically sized partition to my '/' (which contains boot) and 'dd'ed my '/' partition over. I then chrooted into it successfully, everything looked okay (files had the right permissions, etc), but when I tried to run 'grub-install' with the new, changed menu.lst and /etc/fstab it gave me the error: The file /boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly I googled around for that and a couple sources suggested running in the grub shell: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit this appeared to have worked, as did subsequent 'grub-install's, but when I rebooted, I was back in my debian setup on hdb, not the one on hda. I tried googling variations on 'installing grub chroot' but haven't seemed to get very far. Maybe a different search would be more fruitful, but I can't come up with better terms. Pertinent info: Debian unstable grub 0.97-7.1 linux-2.6.17-rc1 from kernel.org Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! TIA, Just a guess but you probably have grub installed on hdb also and the BIOS may be set to boot from this instead of hda. Try changing the boot order in the BIOS. If still no success disconnect hdb and see if hda will boot. HTH Wackojacko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Thought on receiving two answers...
Magnus Therning on 2006-04-19 23:10:58 +0100: > AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like > mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders > preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint > when the user replies to a mailing list. It's not the mailing list software's job, it's yours. Search for the 'Mail-Followup-To' header. pgpmAoCE3umpU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: runit - another possibility
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 10:44:24AM +0200, Nikolai Hlubek wrote: > Another option might be the runit package > which as I recall does the same as initng. > But I can't really recommend it since you have > to migrate your boot services manually. One thing I like about runit is it's split up into many small programs (in the traditional UNIX style), so it provides an easy migration path: runsvdir runs nicely as an inittab service providing supervision for other runit services. Services can be gradually migrated from sysvinit to runit as necessary, and then once nothing depends on sysvinit anymore, runit provides a replacement init binary if you're interested. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init editing
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 10:01 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > LostSon writes: > > I installed that and briefly looked at it, and it looks like thats > > exaclty what i was looking for. A way to enable or disable services at > > boot time, thanks. > > We might have mentioned Sysvconfig earlier, but you said you wanted a GUI. > -- > John Hasler > > I apologize if i missed that email, been very hectic here. Thanks again all for your suggestions. It is greatly appreciated!! -- LostSon http://www.lostsonsvault.org /\ \ \ \__/ \__/ \ \ (oo) (oo) \_\/~~\_/~~\_ _.-~===~-._ (___) \___/ I Want To Believe signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Thought on receiving two answers...
I am sure I'm not the only one who gets mildly irritated with people sending replies both to the sender (my personal email address) and to the list. I am also sure I'm not the only one who accepts this practice, especially on mailing lists that are open for everyone to post to (as opposed to open only to subscribers). What I can't quite understand is why no-one has tried to solve this "problem". Or maybe I just don't know about it? AFAICS it would be possible to get mailing list managing software, like mailman, to add a header to email sent to lists indicating the senders preference. Then well-behaved mail clients can use that header as a hint when the user replies to a mailing list. What do you think? /M -- Magnus Therning(OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://therning.org/magnus Software is not manufactured, it is something you write and publish. Keep Europe free from software patents, we do not want censorship by patent law on written works. Of course I laugh at my own jokes. You can't trust strangers. -- Phyllis Diller pgpfW6A0lYnHx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 02:48:39PM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ken Irving wrote: > > I don't think that should be necessary. Procmail ought to be able be > > coerced to operate one way if the header indicates a multipart message > > (package the footer in a mime section) and another if the body is rfc822 > > (append the footer as done now). > > Am I the only one who shudders at the thought of a mailing list that > revolves around procmail? I mean, a tad hackish, you think? Do > single-language list managers face this problem? No, I'll shudder along with you. However, it appears that SmartList is developed by the same guy who developed procmail (I think...), so it should have a solid footing there. -- Ken Irving -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 14:53 -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > > >>No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols > > > > >>inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, > > > > >>and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal > > > > >>"y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words > > > > > > > > > > Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"? > > > > > > > > Yes, similar, except that should be "Jaegermeister". > > > > > > Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. > > > > How do you type "non-American Standard Code for Information Inter- > > change" characters? > > NASCII, obviously. sheesh. > > you know, that thing you use to start your NASCAR?! NASCAR races are s boring. Gimme NHRA drag races (top fuel, of course) any day. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost." Gustave Flaubert
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:50:39AM -0700, David E. Fox wrote:
> Obviously one has to way the disadvantage of added bloat (adding
> signatures this way is going to make for slightly bigger mails) vs.
> having a defense ("there's the signature") against people who just
> can't figure out how to unsubscribe and send invective the way Ms.
> Oncay did.
I would be fine with whatever obnoxiously bloaty method is used for
alerting people how to unsubscribe (giant blinking red html text
*pre*pended to every message even), as long as there's a way to opt out.
For example, after subscribing, having to click something ``I understand
that the proper way to unsubscribe from the mailing list is by doing
$FOO or $BAR, and agree to pay $100 to the Debian mailing list admins if
I should ever pester the mailing list about wanting to be
unsubscribed'' and then never having mailing list posts mangled when
relayed to my mailbox (A suitably legally binding agreement can be
discussed on debian-legal.)
If subscribers don't want to click that, they can get the unsubscribe
reminders in every email in whatever format they want (attachment,
simple appending, flash animation popups, etc.).
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Updating to Etch from CD...
I just burned the 16 CDs for Debian Etch. I am currently running Debian Sarge, and would like to update my OS. I don't have a connection to the internet on my Debian box. Can I update to Etch with the CDs I burned? What is the procedure?Thanks,Scott Huey
Odd ksh+ssh interaction
Hi, I was exploring hello-dbs from afar this morning by ssh from home to the machine at work. I did the standard dpkg-source -x, cd'ed into the directory and did a debian/rules setup. At that point the session completely started ignoring the keyboard. I had to kill the ssh connection locally. I'm a longtime ksh user and so that's what was running. The behavior is the same on any action (tested it on 1 or 2 more) passed to debian/rules. However, if I push a csh, then everything works a okay. Also, if I immediately put the command into the background via '&', then it doesn't lock me out (though still doesn't work as it should, stopped output for tty). Everything works okay when I invoke debian/rules without going through ssh. I'm assuming this is a bug of some sort. I'm also assuming this problem is something associated with grabbing a tty. Let me know if this needs to be reported as a bug or if it (or a close relative) has been reported already. jeff P.S. I'm currently not on the debian-user list, so please cc to me...thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 04:33:51PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > > >>No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols > > > >>inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, > > > >>and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal > > > >>"y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words > > > > > > > > Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"? > > > > > > Yes, similar, except that should be "Jaegermeister". > > > > Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. > > How do you type "non-American Standard Code for Information Inter- > change" characters? NASCII, obviously. sheesh. you know, that thing you use to start your NASCAR?! A > > -- > - > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson, LA USA > > "It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." > General Douglas MacArthur > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:39 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 04:11, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 21:01 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > > On Monday 17 April 2006 21:47, Doofus wrote: > > > ... > > > > > > > Thanks Diego. > > > > [snip] > > > > > The comment about consumables is important. I haven't been able to > > > follow all this thread (tax time, you know!), but an important > > > point > > > > [snip] > > > > > did with all the ink it needed. Under the same use, the C60 needed > > > something like 6 times more carts than the HP. 6 * $30 (per cart) > > > is $180, or almost the price of the $200 all-in-one over just 9 > > > months. > > > > Any other other color printers besides the HP 5510 with low > > consumables costs? > > > > My kids are getting to the age where they need/want to print things > > out in color (too old for crayons). > > I don't know the price point, but basically the low cost printers are > designed to do nothing but sell ink carts. I'd say look over the > printers and try one that is not in the lowest range and looks more > like an office printer than a home model. From what I gather and from > what a few people have told me, basically, the higher the cost, the > less likely a printer is to use ink carts fast. I'm guessing that > anything over $100 should be pretty decent, but I can't be 100% on > that. I do know a friend of mine looked (a photo professor) at figures > and said that the ink in any photo printer was more expensive per ounce > than the most expensive Parisian perfumes. He also told me it costs > more per photo to use a home printer to print them than it does to use > film and have it developed. http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/productdetails.aspx/print_3100cn?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs Pretending to be a "small business", I bought this printer this morning with a $175 discount. It's supposed to have great picture and text output, but it's a slow beast. I can live with that for a good $350 color laser printer... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Capital as such is not evil; it is its wrong use that is evil. Capital in some form or other will always be needed." Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Color printers (was Re: Printer for linux?)
Hal Vaughan wrote: that. I do know a friend of mine looked (a photo professor) at figures and said that the ink in any photo printer was more expensive per ounce than the most expensive Parisian perfumes. He also told me it costs more per photo to use a home printer to print them than it does to use film and have it developed. If you exclude the water and alcohol content of the ink (that will evaporate anyway once the ink is in place, and which is the cheapest part of ink production), you will find that your printer's ink is more expensive than platin or almost any other material you could possibly buy... Johannes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
Ken Irving wrote: > I don't think that should be necessary. Procmail ought to be able be > coerced to operate one way if the header indicates a multipart message > (package the footer in a mime section) and another if the body is rfc822 > (append the footer as done now). Am I the only one who shudders at the thought of a mailing list that revolves around procmail? I mean, a tad hackish, you think? Do single-language list managers face this problem? -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Firefox Acroread plugin not working
Adam Hardy wrote: Chris Lale on 19/04/06 12:05, wrote: I cannot view PDFs using Firefox in Etch (Testing). I get: "There was an error while loading the plugin - ewh.api. The plugin failed to initialize." I have these packages installed: acroread 7.0.5-0.0 mozilla-acroread 7.0.5-0.0 According to http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html#Acrobat: Adobe ReaderVersion: 7.0.5 1. Install Adobe Reader. 2. Create a symbolic link to nppdf.so to your Mozilla plugins directory. 3. Ensure a copy of acroread is in your PATH. On my system: 2. /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/pluginsnppdf.so is a symlink to /usr/lib/Adobe/Acrobat7.0/Browser/intellinux/nppdf.so 3. Acroread is in my path since I can launch it from a terminal window with the command 'acroread'. Chris, I don't have the mozilla-acroread package in my sources for testing, so I can't test it. However I can run acroread on its own no problem. Can you? Hello Adam. Yes, acroread runs OK. Its just the Firefox plugin that has the problem. I cannot open or save a PDF in Firefox. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init editing
LostSon writes: > I installed that and briefly looked at it, and it looks like thats > exaclty what i was looking for. A way to enable or disable services at > boot time, thanks. We might have mentioned Sysvconfig earlier, but you said you wanted a GUI. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer for linux?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 20:12 +0100, Doofus wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > >On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 16:38 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > > > > >>I have never heard of a separate PS interpreter, they may be out there, > >>but it isn't anything you need, because Linux can talk to PCL printers > >> > >> > > > >Meaning you've never heard of a PS interpreter being built into a > >printer? > > > > *Separate* Ron, *Separate* Separate from host-based ghostscript is what I was thinking at 3AM. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "You don't lead by hitting people over the head--that's assault, not leadership." Dwight David Eisenhower -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition image on the fly
Ok, thank you very much. Im reading and trying LVM and rsnapshot and for while Ill use rsnapshot. But both are excelent altenatives. Later Ill read about amanda too. Thank you by hints Tom - Original Message - From: "tomlobato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 11:15 AM Subject: Partition image on the fly Hi! It is possible to make partition image on the fly? With the system (*Linux server) running? I think in the aproach: At midnigth (less system use), the script remounts partition readonly by some minutes while put the output of 'dd if=/dev/...' to a file in another HD on the same machine. Some word? Some trouble in do so? * The server is running several services like internet, mail, web, jabber, mysql. I want to make a diary backup of it. Hardware resources are not problem, I can use another machine, or DVD writer or another HD or the three options together. If it is not possible, what do you think about mount the system from another system in the LAN via NFS, and use simple 'cp -R /mnt/nfs-server/ /backup/'? Obviously excluding dirs like /proc, /mnt, etc. PS: I already search google, tldp, etc and didnt find nothing with this specifity level. Thank you Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
grub-install in chroot not respected?
I was trying to move all my debian stuff to one harddisk, so I created an identically sized partition to my '/' (which contains boot) and 'dd'ed my '/' partition over. I then chrooted into it successfully, everything looked okay (files had the right permissions, etc), but when I tried to run 'grub-install' with the new, changed menu.lst and /etc/fstab it gave me the error: The file /boot/grub/stage2 not read correctly I googled around for that and a couple sources suggested running in the grub shell: root (hd0,0) setup (hd0) quit this appeared to have worked, as did subsequent 'grub-install's, but when I rebooted, I was back in my debian setup on hdb, not the one on hda. I tried googling variations on 'installing grub chroot' but haven't seemed to get very far. Maybe a different search would be more fruitful, but I can't come up with better terms. Pertinent info: Debian unstable grub 0.97-7.1 linux-2.6.17-rc1 from kernel.org Any pointers would be greatly appreciated! TIA, -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Come, muse, let us sing of rats! -- From a poem by James Grainger, 1721-1767 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Re: Why do people in the UK put a u in the word color?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:57 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wednesday 19 April 2006 07:00, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 13:50 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > >>No. If you look closely, you'll see that I put those symbols > > >>inside of slash marks. That means that they are phonemes, > > >>and the /j/ phoneme indicates a sound similar to the consonantal > > >>"y" in English, as in "yet". As an example of another two words > > > > > > Oh, "j" like "jagermeister"? > > > > Yes, similar, except that should be "Jaegermeister". > > Nope, it's Jägermeister. It's one of my favorite drinks. How do you type "non-American Standard Code for Information Inter- change" characters? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." General Douglas MacArthur
Re: Best Video Card
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hans, thank you for the information. I hadn't realized that the nv driver was written by nVidia. One point not in its favor, in addition to not doing 3D acceleration, is that it doesn't support 24/32 bit colour either. The "Debian blue swirl" that is the default background for KDM has very obvious lines in the colour gradation with the nv driver, but when using the closed nvidia driver the colour is a clean smooth transition from light blue to dark blue. So not just gaming. But for anyone who is not doing heavy work related to graphics (or gaming, as you point out) will be perfectly happy with the nv driver. > > On Sun, 2006-04-16 at 01:28 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote: > > > The nv driver is also developed by nVidia. Basically it is the > > > nvidia driver minus the stuff that nVidia cannot release > > > (either because it is their trade secrets or it is technologies > > > licenced from other venders). Either ways, the nv driver is > > > very good, but basically lacs 3D. If you're not going to do > > > any gaming, then nv is fine. - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBREZLlS9Y35yItIgBAQL6Qwf8CEDMKV+Ca//N/ZrgMv7o31xRFB6qLEjZ rtV2Z88CuFUdF1PTdrUrLk6oxwEG1Rs8V97ZAYS5S2ZQq0UOrWgrQ1QK/1eUnV+h fmaj4+SSzLcL2SotZhnEWHlCd3mbKGlbxreQNGnOP5z7tB7VbrPQ/JuawFpSALU6 hKjRC993kN9UosVwH6ISqOl1+cRBYJjEqXEbY9W+MdbAWyjanuK2hVNq1eL69z99 YYTC4KVrIuq+wQb00ux0JBqoDJwLYCPuuIwro16bD4fsfKp9spTlhBmDcthsfQWP /ofF02rayckfmUDngyjuYnvBKTrOjiNxJ7k4yA/UPNLdImiQgemwUA== =Z3qi -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On Apr 19, 2006, at 2:51 PM, David E. Fox wrote:
[...snip...]
But *if* doing that makes the signature footer always visible, why
not?
Obviously one has to way the disadvantage of added bloat (adding
signatures this way is going to make for slightly bigger mails) vs.
having a defense ("there's the signature") against people who just
can't figure out how to unsubscribe and send invective the way Ms.
Oncay did. Still, I'm skeptical as to whether Ms. Oncay saw or didn't
see one.
Remember, Ms B.O. was complaining about list traffic _in general_.
Whether she saw the footer with the snippy comment or not is beside
the point. The footer was certainly there on _at least one_ of the
other messages.
This bloat issue is interesting. Since all messages would have
identical footers, it's a shame that they all couldn't just reference
the same one. That would lessen bloat and bandwidth.
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Re: building rpms on debian
I had a similar problem. Install "alien".#apt-get install alienthen you run this comand:#alien --to-deb and it makes a .deb packege from the .rpm.Finally, type: # dpkg -i If there where unreached dependencies, just open Synaptic and click the option to repair broken packages.Hope I were helpfull,Chao! Matías.-On 4/19/06, Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:11:20 -0500"Ek Zindagoi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> Hi everyone,> what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild > -bb command on a debian system ?>> Thanks,> DhanviAlso look for a program called "checkinstall" It may help do what youwant. It can create debs & rpms--Rodney D. Myers < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>Registered Linux User #96112ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO:18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.Ben Franklin - 1759-- "La vida es una aplastante derrota tras otra, hasta que acabas deseando que se muera Flanders."Homero SimpsonDios es el único ser que para reinar no tuvo ni siquiera necesidad de existir. Charles Baudelaire
Re: QT Designer errors
Jan Schledermann wrote: Those headers should reside in /usr/include/qt3, in a standard debian install. The package providing these hearders is: libqt3-mt-dev. I suppose that if you are not using the multi-threaded model they would be in libqt3-dev. Thanks, Jan (and also Andre), I had neglected to install the -dev package. It seems to me that it should be included as a dependancy for QT Designer. Installing libqt3-mt-dev solved that problem, but Makefile was set up to use libqt, instead of libqt-mt. I changed that line and the program compiled without error, but... Can anyone tell me what I need to set in Designer so that it will use libqt-mt automatically, for all compiles, so that I don't have to remember to manually change Makefile each time? -- Marc Shapiro No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What?! Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here. Boom. Sooner or later ... boom! - Susan Ivanova: B5 - Grail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: building rpms on debian
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 12:11:20 -0500 "Ek Zindagoi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > what are the ways I can build RPMs on Debian system ?? Can i use rpmbuild > -bb command on a debian system ? > > Thanks, > Dhanvi Also look for a program called "checkinstall" It may help do what you want. It can create debs & rpms -- Rodney D. Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered Linux User #96112 ICQ#: AIM#: YAHOO: 18002350 mailman452 mailman42_5 They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin - 1759 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
twinview: one virtual screen or two?
I'm running etch on a D800 laptop. I have had dual-head display working for some time now, using nvidia's 8174 driver. The dual head display worked in a very logical manner, specifically, if a popup dialog was centered on the screen it was centered on the screen that was active (where the mouse pointer was pointing). Another indication that it was "logical" was that each screen had its own screensaver running. I've just upgraded to nvidia 8756, and now the screen acts much more like one giant screen. All centered popups are split across the two screens. The screensaver is one large animation across both screens. I'm wondering where I can read about how dual screen setups interface with the window management (I'm running gnome, BTW). Is there something I can tweak to make the two screens behave how I'd like? Thanks, Rick Reynolds -- Never work for a sawmill that's so behind that they don't have time to sharpen the blades. -- Will Hayes, Software Engineering Institute -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: init editing
> It was a small tool I guess nothing fancy. Mainly for turning things off > at boot time for instance apm. There is Sysvconfig, but it has only a text interface. You said you wanted a GUI (not that I can see why such a program needs one). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATTN: Barbara Oncay
On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 11:51:01AM -0700, David E. Fox wrote: > On Tue, 18 Apr 2006 15:13:48 -0800 > Ken Irving <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > As discussed elsewhere in this (sorry, Ms. Oncay) thread, the problem is > > due to the footer not being packaged in a multipart section. If you can > > And raises the possibility of the footer (i.e., the unsubscribe > message) being appended to each message as an attachment. Other mailing > lists (f.e., mandrake-newbie) do this. It has a downside of making it a > bit more cumbersome in some mailers (f.e, elm) as every mail from said > list shows up as a mime message. I haven't used elm as a primary mailer > for some time, though. I don't think that should be necessary. Procmail ought to be able be coerced to operate one way if the header indicates a multipart message (package the footer in a mime section) and another if the body is rfc822 (append the footer as done now). -- Ken Irving -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ip access pemit
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:06 -0300, Murilo Bernardes wrote: > i've got a email server and i'd like to permit access only to a few ip > numbers. /etc/postfix/main.cf , mynetworks parameter in the form of IP/netmask. Multiple values are permitted with space as a separator. > can anyone help with this? debian-user@ Regards, Laszlo/GCS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Grub + CD-ROM
Hans du Plooy wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 16:54 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote: > > Is the boot order correct? IOW, is the CDROM placed before other > > boot devices? > > Yes. > > > If it is, then I suspect you have a hardware problem, which will not > > be fixed by putting GRUB on a CDROM. > > I considered it, but I doubt, because: > 1. It's a new notebook, and the drive works perfectly otherwise. > 2. If I start up vmware, the virtual machine can boot off the CD-ROM. > Which tells me the CD-ROM *can* boot a disc, something else is messing > with it. I have a suspicion (this may sound whacky) that it is the > memory. I added a gig dimm - corsair valueselect. I had quite a bit of > problems with my wireless untill I removed the original 512mb HP dimm. > Unfortunately I've sold the 512mb dimm so I can't swap them back to see > if that is in fact the problem. > > The reason why I think this is possible, is because HP was a bit mean > with this particular notebook. They locked the BIOS to only accept > certain wireless cards. I wanted to replace the broadcom with something > that's better supported, so I bought an intel 2200 mini-pci card (HP > branded even!). Upon switching on the notebook after installing the > card, I simply got a post message saying "Unsupported wireless device > detected" and the notebook wouldn't even boot. Apparently I had the > wrong part number. If for some odd reason, you think it's RAM module/size related, I suggest you go over your BIOS settings with a fine toothed-comb...(though I'm guessing) look into settings like "shadow BIOS", and "Hole at 1MB boundary" (or 15-16MB boundary). Perhaps try; if there's a "Load Setup Optimized Defaults" (BUT... note ALL your orig. settings Prior). May even look into Flashing that BIOS, if you think it's related to some munged ROM or CMOS/NV-RAM codeHP may also be using an area of the HDD to *store* your NV-RAM data, and the ROM BIOS is just a 'pointer' to that *hidden* HDD area. try; # hdparm -I /dev/hda By chance - is that a Matsushita DVD-RAM drive ? (or similar?) > Anyway, considering that, I think it's quite possible that the BIOS sees > the notebook has "unsupported" memory in, and simply doesn't pass the > boot call to the CD-ROM. > > The fact that vmware can boot off the CD-ROM, gives me hope that I might > be able to make some boot manager call the CD-ROM. I just don't know > what. I just don't want to have to buy expensive HP branded memory just > to look at a live-cd... > > Thanks > Hans __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printer for linux?
Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 16:38 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: I have never heard of a separate PS interpreter, they may be out there, but it isn't anything you need, because Linux can talk to PCL printers Meaning you've never heard of a PS interpreter being built into a printer? *Separate* Ron, *Separate* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sizes and notation
Andrei Popescu wrote: > Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >The confusion between 1000 and 1024 has been solved. Take a > > > look at > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix#IEC_standard_prefixes > > > It's a really, REALLY good idea to adopt this. > > > > No. They're simply too insufferably ugly. Yeah, well...ever see the AIM, MSN, even some IRC types having a conversation? now *that's* ugly. It's become more and more ever-increasingly difficult to express in writing, what one would convey through "speech' - (moore's law hath overfloweth into many areas of culture)and it ain't pretty. The world has gotten itself into one big great *hurry*. If using only the symbols (ki mi gi etc.), it almost appears that a letter has been dropped/lost, inadvertantly, by whomever has written it. (read on). > > In the vast majority of cases it's quite clear from context which is > > meant. > > > > Disk-Drive advertisements are one notable case where things are > > confusing, but really, you shouldn't be adjusting your language to suit > > marketing! > > > > -Miles > > We are talking about numbers here! Context is IMO not enough. I sure > hope that standard gets widely adopted. For me, this has (almost) > nothing to do with marketing. You just can't use the same symbol for > different things. It's like having the same symbol for miles and > kilometers! > > Andrei Unfortunately, it's already a runaway train... The problem is that we're literally swimming in a sea of *acronym stew!* Type in the term/keywords like 'define:IDE', 'define:SMB' into a googler...(these aren't even good examples, but hopefully will suffice). The FOSF has been using the IEEE 1541-2002(?) standard for quite some time now (AFAICT - in it's literature) -- But, in the real world, from what I've seen, and within the *same* industries; it's the marketing and advert bozos who are the ones that resist in defiance. It's not entirely their fault, since 'context' matters. I think 'we' (FOS) community can *push* much harder on the HDD manufacturers, by constantly using the *full names* (kibi, mebi, gibi), _not_just_ the the symbols (ki, mi, gi). I've only been noticing a slipshod/piecemeal version being used anyway (GiB, MiB, KiB); that's only used to represent 'B'yteshow does one correctly represent [kilo, mega, giga] BITS ? It doesn't seem outlined in the IEEE standard, but I'm likely overlooking something. (I touched upon a few of these thoughts in my last post, to date, in that previous thread) Also - someone (perhaps a Jeweler :-)) mentioned 'K' = Karat, in the other long thread, though the wikipedia article claims the SI version of 'K' = Kelvin, and 'B' = Bel (deciBel, dB)Then we have the m=milli SI to contend with also. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 tmpfs filesystems mounted?
Florian Kulzer on 19/04/06 12:29, wrote: why don't you post those messages and we can all pitch in... unless you're worried that'll bring about an early demise? ;) I see stuff in syslog and in boot and yet I can't see the relevant stuff which I see scroll past when I'm booting. There's no 'boot' facility/priority in the syslog.conf, so how is it controlled? You can set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes in /etc/default/bootlogd. This should catch all output on the console during most of the boot process and put it in a log file in /var/log. For the earliest part of the boot process you would need to set up logging to a serial console and use a second computer to record that. However, sometimes the ScrollLock key is good enough to allow you to read the stuff that is scrolling by. Scroll lock works? I never thought I could stop Linux with the scroll lock key. My /var/logs/boot file contains a fair amount of stuff, but with scroll lock I should be able to pick up the most interesting stuff. OK just did that and now that I can actually read it, it's all fine, there's no problem at all. I can see where the bootlogger kicks in as well. Thanks anyway, Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
