Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[ccostin]

Seamonkey fulfill conditions requested by DFSG ?


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Microphone not working with Intel 82801G / Board D945GTP

[Nelson Castillo]

Hi.

I run sid at home and I haven't been able to use the microphone.
Alsa mixer only allows me to pick either Mic, Front Mic or Line,
but I don't see the volume level of the Mic. Gnome's sound recorder
doesn't allow me to select a device to record from. It shows no
devices.

I've searched the web and I didn't find useful information

What should I read or try?

Regards.

Linux gaira 2.6.16-1-686-smp #2 SMP Thu May 4 18:28:53 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux

lspci -vvv :

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High
Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
   Subsystem: Intel Corporation Unknown device 0606
   Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop-
ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
   Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
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Re: kernel uninstall

[Bill Marcum]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:05:11PM +, Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Debian i386 etch kernel linux-image-2.6.15.1-k7 with appropriate nvidia 
> kernel, running OK.
> 
> Also installed linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 without proper match for X11.
> 
> Wanting to change to 2.6.17, I tried unsuccessfully to first unistall 2.6.16 
> (apt-get --purge remove), always aborted because package is in incorrect 
> state.
> 
> Neither apt-get -f install nor reinstall followed by --purge remove 
> were successful (package in incorrect state).
> 
> Could you suggest how to get rid of 2.6.16?
> 
If you aren't short on disk space you could just go ahead and install 
2.6.17.  You should get a boot menu with the newest kernel as default.


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Re: Recent spam increase

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/15/06 00:41, s. keeling wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On 2006-10-13 14:35:14 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
[snip]
> 
> Easier might be mailfilter.  I've never used it, but it's purported to
> be the English language equivalent to procmail's "modem line noise"
> syntax, and as powerful.

mailfilter has a very simple C-like syntax for filtering based on
mail headers.  I use it for simple stuff, but know I am just
touching the tip of the iceberg.

For example:

  if ( /^X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ )
  {
  log "---  Maildir"
  to "Maildir/.Lists.Maildrop"
  }
  if ( /^X-Mailing-List:.**/ )
  {
  log "  debian-user"
  to "Maildir/.Lists.Debian.User.2006q4"
  }
  if ( /^MessageID:.*chase.com>/ )
  {
  log "  Chase"
  to "Maildir/.Bank"
  }
  log "- - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - No match."
  to "Maildir"

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However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: Recent spam increase

[s. keeling]

Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 2006-10-13 14:35:14 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> > I've been having a serious problem with someone spoofing my e-mail
> > address. Various places in several countries (Russia, Korea, Belize,
> > Greece) are spoofing my e-mail address. I get tens of bounces from
> 
>  You can use procmail (or any simple mail filter) to filter them out.
>  Very easy and reliable with a message-id format comparison (since a
>  real bounce should include one of *your* message-ids).

I agree procmail can do it (I do it with procmail).  I question the
"Very easy" bit.  procmail is not easy to control.  If you've the time
to learn its quirks, it's great.  However, it's somewhat like a C
programmer trying to wrap his head around C++ (OOP/OOD).  It takes a
lot of "I WANT to do this!" to get it.  Months of it.  Perhaps years.

Easier might be mailfilter.  I've never used it, but it's purported to
be the English language equivalent to procmail's "modem line noise"
syntax, and as powerful.

If the OP wants power and is willing to pay the price, procmail!  If
not, there's other ways.


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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 06:11:10PM -0700, Michael M. wrote:

> In one sense, there's no difference.  Debian gets to decide what 
> qualifies for using the "Debian Official Logo," just as Mozilla gets to 
> decide what qualifies for using the official Firefox logo and name.
> 
> In another sense, there is a difference, because Mozilla demands that 
> all patches and modifications made to the Firefox code be submitted to 
> Mozilla, as a condition of being able to use the Firefox branding.  
> Debian makes no such demands.
> 
> Really, though, each logo is indicating two different things:  the 
> Firefox logo indicates that the browser code (and therefore, the browser 
> itself) is Mozilla-approved if not Mozilla-generated (i.e., it might 
> include patches that are not available from Mozilla itself); the Debian 
> Official Logo indicates that the project using the logo uses some 
> documented part of Debian.  In other words, the Firefox logo indicates 
> that the browser *is* Firefox; the Debian Official Logo indicates that 
> the project using the logo *uses* Debian.
> 
Hi Michael,
just want to clarify a bit. IIUC, Debian has a DFSG logo for the DFSG
version of Firefox, which will be called IceWeasle, thus IceWeasle will
not use the Debian logo, which is not DFSG free, per se. Using the
IceWeasle logo states that this version is not a Mozilla approved
version but a version derived from Debian sources and contains DFSG
software (source code, logo, documentation, etc).
cheers,
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RE: Bricolage (1.8.9) is very slow on Debian Etch beta 3 release

[David Christensen]

I wrote:
> Unfortunately, the application seems to run very slowly

Daniel Baumann wrote:
> yep, will be fixed soon.

Bricolage is now running at normal speed.  :-)


I'm not sure when or what changed to remove the log jam (it's been a
while since I last tried it).  I updated/upgraded packages a few days
ago, so perhaps that was it (?).  In any case, Bricolage now seems to be
viable on Debian Etch -- I just need to figure out how to use it...


David


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RE: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Seth Goodman]

Michael M. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Saturday, October 14,
2006 8:11 PM -0500:

> In other words, the Firefox logo indicates that the browser *is*
> Firefox; the Debian Official Logo indicates that the project using
> the logo *uses* Debian.

That sounds reasonable, but for one problem.  How much Debian must
something use before using the logo?  Asking that differently, how
much can you change before you must take the Debian logo off?

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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/14/06 22:25, michael wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:55:47 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
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>>> For a multiuser system, *I* would go for more, slower CPUs.  Each
>> process gets more of a CPU that way.
>>
>> Why not an Athlon 64X2 single-socket board, or an Opteron 2xx dual-
>> socket board?  They have great memory bandwidth and an excellent SMP
>> design.
>>
> 
> Thanks for the feedback.
> Probably could go for the AMD solution.
> But our company as a standard has picked intel CPU's
> for all servers.
> Not set in stone.
> Most of our other 40 networks/buildings have Intel stuff already anyway.

I can understand and agree with standardizing on a certain vendor
and CPU family, but what's the benefit of standardizing on one CPU
*manufacturer* out of many, when Intel, AMD & Via CPUs all run the
same Windows and Linux binaries?

Other than because Intel has effective salespeople that know how to
delude management?

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whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: no $DISPLAY with ssh -X

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2006-10-14 08:34:41 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:19:16AM +0300, Artem Zolochevskiy wrote:
> > Why i'm unable to run xterm on remote ssh server?
> > $DISPLAY is not set :(
> > 
> First, make sure that you don't have "ForwardX11 no" in the *client's*
> /etc/ssh/ssh_config.

Also make sure that you don't have "ForwardX11 no" in the server's
/etc/ssh/sshd_config (I had a problem with that in the past).

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Re: Recent spam increase

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2006-10-13 14:35:14 -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
> I've been having a serious problem with someone spoofing my e-mail
> address. Various places in several countries (Russia, Korea, Belize,
> Greece) are spoofing my e-mail address. I get tens of bounces from
> e-mails which are undeliverable.

You can use procmail (or any simple mail filter) to filter them out.
Very easy and reliable with a message-id format comparison (since a
real bounce should include one of *your* message-ids).

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Re: a good Video cut & scale program?

[Scott Lair]

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:29:10 -0400
Scott Lair <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>
>> 
>> could try ffmpeg to convert to dv format which kino will recognize.
>> 
>> I think i've done this with mpeg4 videos from my still/motion camera.

>I've used mencoder successfully from time to time to take a few videos
>from the camera (my Kodak EasyShare C310, does video, but no audio
>recording) to convert those files (which come up in .mov format) to
>mp4, with about a 25% space savings on average, but then I can't edit
>them with kino.

>kino expects quicktime format, which I thought that the .mov file was
>already.

I thought kino wanted dv format.  Generally the type that is captured directly
from mini-dv cameras.  Although I have not tried any other formats with it.

>I wasn't aware that ffmpeg would do the conversion to digital video,
>and so I tried it on the sample files that I have, and find this to
>not be successful. For instance:

I converted some videos from a casio Z600 that produces MPEG4 and got
them on dvd.  I'm sure I used the ffmpeg -target ntsc-dv to convert the
files for kino, but now when I try it on a casio S600... it fails.  I'm not 
sure what
the difference would be.  Unfortunately I do not have the z600 files anymore to 
see.
I was successfull converting the files from the casio s600 to mpeg format using 
the script found here:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2006/10/msg01361.html
this uses transcode to do the encoding and seemed to work well.  At least the 
audio
was present and appeared to be in sync.


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>[tcprobe] RIFF data, AVI video
>[avilib] V: 20.000 fps, codec=FMP4, frames=3965, width=800, height=600
>[tcprobe] summary for chrisdriving1.mp4, (*) = not default, 0 = not
>detected import frame size: -g 800x600 [720x576] (*)
>   frame rate: -f 20.000 [25.000] frc=0 (*)
>   no audio track: use "null" import module for audio
>   length: 3965 frames, frame_time=50 msec, duration=0:03:18.250

The frame rate and frame size are both going to have to be changed.  I would
go ahead and give the transcode script a try. It worked for me first try.
I think it uses mplayer to get the information to encode and since mplayer
can play just about anything it should work.  Don't know why the audio is not
found.  Will the camera file play in mplayer?  Try to play the mpeg file after
running the script.  If that looks good then insert the file into kino.  Kino
will ask to convert it and that conversion should work fine.

>then:

>  Stream #0.0: Video: dvvideo, yuv420p, 800x600, q=2-31, 200 kb/s,
>25.00 fps(c) Stream mapping:
>  Stream #0.0 -> #0.0
>[dv @ 0xb7ee6230]Can't initialize DV format!
>Make sure that you supply exactly two streams:
> video: 25fps or 29.97fps, audio: 2ch/48Khz/PCM
> (50Mbps allows an optional second audio stream)
>Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec parameters ?)
>
>Seems that it expects an audio track, but it's not letting me know how
>to not provide one.
>
>Tests on a sample taken from the camera (without any prior conversion)
>show that I can convert the file to a dv format with:
>
>ffmpeg -i  -target ntsc-dv test.dv
>
>(The "ntsc" portion is not even mentioned in the manual page that I can
>see.) But kino tells me that this is not a digital video file, and the
>(default) file size is ridiculously large -- 170 megabytes for a 30
>second video clip.
>
>Oddly enough, adding 'maxrate' does not affect the size of the encoded
>video.

The ntsc/pal stuff is mentioned under the -target section.  I think those two
options apply to most of the formats.

Yes, dv format files are extremely large, about 13GB for one hour of video. I've
added disk space several times once I started doing video.  170mb for 30seconds
sounds about right without using a calculator.

hope that helps.

Currently running etch by the way.

scott


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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[michael]

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:55:47 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
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>> For a multiuser system, *I* would go for more, slower CPUs.  Each
> process gets more of a CPU that way.
> 
> Why not an Athlon 64X2 single-socket board, or an Opteron 2xx dual-
> socket board?  They have great memory bandwidth and an excellent SMP
> design.
> 

Thanks for the feedback.
Probably could go for the AMD solution.
But our company as a standard has picked intel CPU's
for all servers.
Not set in stone.
Most of our other 40 networks/buildings have Intel stuff already anyway.

Mike



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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

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On 10/14/06 21:15, michael wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
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>> On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
>>> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
 Hello,
 Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
 or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
 Probably using SW raid as well.
 Money is a conern.
 Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
 or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?

>>> Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS server,
>>> any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a single core.  The
>>> only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps network card.  If money is a
>>> concern, you are not going to be using a 10 Gbps network card.
>> Other questions to ask:
>> - - How many users will it be serving?
>> - - How "busy" will it be?  Even if you are only serving one system,
>>   will it be a streaming uncompressed High Def video server, or an
>>   MPEG-2 and MP3 server for 1 person.?
> 
> Probably about 100-150 workstations. 

Good to know.

How many concurrent users?  (I.e., they won't *all* be hitting the
box at the *exact* same time, will they?  I doubt it.)

> This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern was
> NFS as I'm kinda new to it.
> Basically, from the money we have available, it looks like I can
> afford an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.67GHz, with a $150 Motherboard, or
> 2 x  Intel Xeon 5130 @ 2.0Ghz with a $450 Motherboard.
> 
> I guess put another way, for a Sarge server that does pretty much everything,
> would you rather have 4 cores at slower speed, or 2 cores at faster speed?

For a multiuser system, *I* would go for more, slower CPUs.  Each
process gets more of a CPU that way.

> Another problem currently, is I can't even install Debian on a test box that 
> I have. Intel motherboard with ich8 chipset. (would use E6700 CPU)
> So, I'm wondering if a motherboard with xeon chips which would use the
> 5000V chipset let me install the system.

Why not an Athlon 64X2 single-socket board, or an Opteron 2xx dual-
socket board?  They have great memory bandwidth and an excellent SMP
design.

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For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[michael]

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:22:23 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:15:53PM -0700, michael wrote:
> > 
> > Probably about 100-150 workstations. 
> > This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern was
> > NFS as I'm kinda new to it.
> > Basically, from the money we have available, it looks like I can
> > afford an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.67GHz, with a $150 Motherboard, or
> > 2 x  Intel Xeon 5130 @ 2.0Ghz with a $450 Motherboard.
> > 
> > I guess put another way, for a Sarge server that does pretty much 
everything,
> > would you rather have 4 cores at slower speed, or 2 cores at faster 
speed?
> > 
> > Another problem currently, is I can't even install Debian on a test box 
that 
> > I have. Intel motherboard with ich8 chipset. (would use E6700 CPU)
> > So, I'm wondering if a motherboard with xeon chips which would use the
> > 5000V chipset let me install the system.
> > 
> Is this a new deployment or is NFS already deployed?  If a new
> deployment, why are you wasting your time with NFS?

Network is already deployed.
Workstations are OS 10.4
Can't provide single sign on to the mac without running OS X server.
Or if you can really hack ldap on a linux box and provide it over afp.
Be happy to here about other options than NFS.




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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:15:53PM -0700, michael wrote:
> 
> Probably about 100-150 workstations. 
> This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern was
> NFS as I'm kinda new to it.
> Basically, from the money we have available, it looks like I can
> afford an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.67GHz, with a $150 Motherboard, or
> 2 x  Intel Xeon 5130 @ 2.0Ghz with a $450 Motherboard.
> 
> I guess put another way, for a Sarge server that does pretty much everything,
> would you rather have 4 cores at slower speed, or 2 cores at faster speed?
> 
> Another problem currently, is I can't even install Debian on a test box that 
> I have. Intel motherboard with ich8 chipset. (would use E6700 CPU)
> So, I'm wondering if a motherboard with xeon chips which would use the
> 5000V chipset let me install the system.
> 
Is this a new deployment or is NFS already deployed?  If a new
deployment, why are you wasting your time with NFS?

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[michael]

On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:04:53 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote
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> On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
> >> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
> >> Probably using SW raid as well.
> >> Money is a conern.
> >> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
> >> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
> >>
> > Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS server,
> > any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a single core.  The
> > only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps network card.  If money is a
> > concern, you are not going to be using a 10 Gbps network card.
> 
> Other questions to ask:
> - - How many users will it be serving?
> - - How "busy" will it be?  Even if you are only serving one system,
>   will it be a streaming uncompressed High Def video server, or an
>   MPEG-2 and MP3 server for 1 person.?

Probably about 100-150 workstations. 
This server will also run proxy, email and web, but my main concern was
NFS as I'm kinda new to it.
Basically, from the money we have available, it looks like I can
afford an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @ 2.67GHz, with a $150 Motherboard, or
2 x  Intel Xeon 5130 @ 2.0Ghz with a $450 Motherboard.

I guess put another way, for a Sarge server that does pretty much everything,
would you rather have 4 cores at slower speed, or 2 cores at faster speed?

Another problem currently, is I can't even install Debian on a test box that 
I have. Intel motherboard with ich8 chipset. (would use E6700 CPU)
So, I'm wondering if a motherboard with xeon chips which would use the
5000V chipset let me install the system.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: Please Resend Your Message to DRCNet [OT]

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On 10/14/06 15:37, Peter Teunissen wrote:
> 
> On 14-okt-2006, at 22:25, Ron Johnson wrote:
> 
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>> On 10/14/06 15:01, Peter Teunissen wrote:
>>> On 14-okt-2006, at 17:49, DRCNet wrote:
 Dear friend:

>> [snip]
>>>
>>> I never realized Dogberts Ruling Class was pushing drug legalization!
>>> Let the induhviduals have their drugs, as long as it turns them into
>>> efficient working drones... :-)
>>
>> Alert, alert!  There's an induhvidual lurking in our midst
>> pretending to be a member of the D*N*RC.
>>
>> Quick, get the torches and pitchforks!!.
>>
>> - --
>> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> 
> I stand corrected, bow my head in shame and will unsubscibe from the
> DNRC Although I doubt a true member of the DNRC would use a _working
> class_ item like a pitchfork to defend his position instead of his wit
> and mind ;-)

Working class?  There's something *wrong* with needing to work for a
living?

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Is "common sense" really valid?
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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 09:05:56PM -0400, Grok Mogger wrote:
> If the server is more or less just doing NFS, then even with a 10Gbps
> network card, would a dual-core CPU really help...?
> 
Probably.  Filling a 10 Gbps pipe takes a lot of work.  Even with DMA,
it is still quite CPU intensive becuase of the amount of data.

> This is really just guess work...  but the software you're running for NFS
> would need to be smart enough to take advantage of a dual core for it to
> even matter, wouldn't it?  And I'm guessing most NFS stuff these days
> probably doesn't do that.
> 
No, but it does spawn multiple processes/threads, IIRC.  That is enough
for the OS to figure out how to have it use the multi-core setup.  That
is why it is often said that if you write your applications threaded,
they can "automatically" make use of SMP.  Now, if you are not smart
about it and have all the processes/threads block on I/O, then multiple
cores or CPUs will not help.

> Like I said, I'm really just taking a shot in the dark here...  someone
> please let me know if that's remotely accurate.
> 

I'm not sure on hard numbers, but I am relatively certain that multiple
cores or CPUs would help when talking about that high of a bandwidth.

Also, please don't top post.

Regards,

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Re: Please Resend Your Message to DRCNet [OT]

[Peter Teunissen]

On 14-okt-2006, at 22:25, Ron Johnson wrote:


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On 10/14/06 15:01, Peter Teunissen wrote:

On 14-okt-2006, at 17:49, DRCNet wrote:

Dear friend:


[snip]


I never realized Dogberts Ruling Class was pushing drug legalization!
Let the induhviduals have their drugs, as long as it turns them into
efficient working drones... :-)


Alert, alert!  There's an induhvidual lurking in our midst
pretending to be a member of the D*N*RC.

Quick, get the torches and pitchforks!!.

- --
Ron Johnson, Jr.


I stand corrected, bow my head in shame and will unsubscibe from the  
DNRC Although I doubt a true member of the DNRC would use a  
_working class_ item like a pitchfork to defend his position instead  
of his wit and mind ;-)


Peter


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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[Michael M.]

HXC wrote:

aliosha samodossi wrote:

Debian is a bastion of freedom with strict rules about what does or
does not qualify as freedom. We use debian for a variety of reasons,
but we all (should) know that at the core of Debian is this
freedom. We choose whether to use less free portions of Debian, but
are not forced to in any way as the core of Debian is free.

Firefox is the current front-runner for secure, stable, all-around
good web-browsers. This is not a judgement of FF, just an
observation. Mozilla has changed how it handles some of its IP and the
freedom of that IP (specifically the artwork). Okay, maybe they
haven't changed it, but they are trying to enforce it. Regardless,
this less than free IP is not acceptable to Debian. But, Debian wants
to include FF in its distribution for reasons listed above. So there
are two alternatives: either Moz relaxes its rules around the
less-than-free artwork, or Debian packages a more free version of FF


Clear and useful explanation. Thank you.



How about the Debian Official Logo? http://www.debian.org/logos/
in what differs this from the mozilla guidelines?

P.S. no flaimbait, just curious






In one sense, there's no difference.  Debian gets to decide what 
qualifies for using the "Debian Official Logo," just as Mozilla gets to 
decide what qualifies for using the official Firefox logo and name.


In another sense, there is a difference, because Mozilla demands that 
all patches and modifications made to the Firefox code be submitted to 
Mozilla, as a condition of being able to use the Firefox branding.  
Debian makes no such demands.


Really, though, each logo is indicating two different things:  the 
Firefox logo indicates that the browser code (and therefore, the browser 
itself) is Mozilla-approved if not Mozilla-generated (i.e., it might 
include patches that are not available from Mozilla itself); the Debian 
Official Logo indicates that the project using the logo uses some 
documented part of Debian.  In other words, the Firefox logo indicates 
that the browser *is* Firefox; the Debian Official Logo indicates that 
the project using the logo *uses* Debian.


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RE: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Grok Mogger]

If the server is more or less just doing NFS, then even with a 10Gbps
network card, would a dual-core CPU really help...?

This is really just guess work...  but the software you're running for NFS
would need to be smart enough to take advantage of a dual core for it to
even matter, wouldn't it?  And I'm guessing most NFS stuff these days
probably doesn't do that.

Like I said, I'm really just taking a shot in the dark here...  someone
please let me know if that's remotely accurate.

Thanks,
- GM

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On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
> Hello,
> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
> Probably using SW raid as well.
> Money is a conern.
> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
>
Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS server,
any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a single core.  The
only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps network card.  If money is a
concern, you are not going to be using a 10 Gbps network card.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

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On 10/14/06 19:53, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
>> Hello,
>> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
>> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
>> Probably using SW raid as well.
>> Money is a conern.
>> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
>> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
>>
> Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS server,
> any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a single core.  The
> only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps network card.  If money is a
> concern, you are not going to be using a 10 Gbps network card.

Other questions to ask:
- - How many users will it be serving?
- - How "busy" will it be?  Even if you are only serving one system,
  will it be a streaming uncompressed High Def video server, or an
  MPEG-2 and MP3 server for 1 person.?

If it's lightweight like that, a Via EPIA EN-based mobo may be
totally adequate.

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Is "common sense" really valid?
For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that
whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins
are mud people.
However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong.
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Re: 1 CPU or 2 ?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:33:29PM -0700, michael wrote:
> Hello,
> Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
> or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
> Probably using SW raid as well.
> Money is a conern.
> Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
> or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?
> 
Go with whatever you can get cheeper.  If it is primarily an NFS server,
any CPU over 1 GHz will do.  Even a single cpu with a single core.  The
only concern is if you are using a 10 Gbps network card.  If money is a
concern, you are not going to be using a 10 Gbps network card.

Regards,

-Roberto

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Re: excluding from udev?

[Colin]

soo2debian wrote:
> i do not want to load some modules by udev , how to do this? 
> debian testing ,kernel 2.6.18 
> 

You blacklist them: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist

(Well, it doesn't have to be the blacklist file but it must be in that
format in one of the files in /etc/modprobe.d)


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1 CPU or 2 ?

[michael]

Hello,
Looking for suggestions on going with 1 dual core CPU
or 2 dual core CPU. Main server would be an NFS file server.
Probably using SW raid as well.
Money is a conern.
Is it better to go with a single, yet faster CPU?,
or go with a slower CPU, yet have 2 of them?

Thanks for your input.

Cheers,
Mike




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Re: mDNS and /etc/nsswitch.conf

[John Hasler]

Joey Hess writes:
> Because you had libnss-mdns installed so apparently want to use it, and
> the change is not intended to make mdns be used for anything except for
> .local address resolution.

kdnssd, education-standalone, libavahi-compat-libdnssd1, and avahi-daemon
depend on libnss-mdns.  Did you (Freddy, not Joey) install any of those?


BTW kdnssd and education-standalone also depend on zeroconf, which may also
give you grief.
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Re: dvdbackup error

[Peter Colton]

On Monday 09 October 2006 08:17, Fred J. wrote:

Hello fred,

growisofs -Z /dev/hdx -dvd-video -udf /path-to-iso
replace x with the letter for the dvd drive.

Regards 

 peter colton

> Peter Colton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  hello fred,
>
>  to read the info about the dvd :
>
>  dvdbackup -i /dev/hdx
>
>  to copy all the dvd :
>
>  dvdbackup -M -i /dev/hdx -o /dvb-backup
>
>  then to make the .iso
>
>  mkisofs -dvd-video -o /image-name.iso /dvb-backup
>
>  then burn the .iso image
>
>  look in the file /etc/fstab  for the info of the x in hdx for your dvd
> drive.
>
>  regards
>
> peter colton
>  thanks alot peter.
> what is the command to burn the .iso image onto the new dvd-r?
>
>
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Re: problem playing vcd with totem

[José Alburquerque]

Basanta Shrestha wrote:
#totem vcd:///dev/cdrom 
#totem vcd://


both works. Can anyone suggest a work-around for this?

Note: /dev/cdrom has symlink to /dev/hdb.

-Basanta

  

would 'totem vcd:///cdrom' work?  It could be that you're missing a link
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Re: libmotif3

[Olafur Jens Sigurdsson]

Þann 2006-10-14, 16:18:49 (+) skrifaði Francesco Pietra:
> $locate libXm.so
> reported
> warning, database '/var/cache/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
> /usr/lib/libXm.so.2
> /usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0.1

You have to update your database if you want locate to find that file
for you, run sudo updatedb (takes a few sek/min).

According to the package info on the debian website then libmoti3 does
indeed have /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3 and no /usr/lib/libXm.so.2 (see
http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?searchmode=filelist&word=libmotif3&version=stable&arch=i386)

Maby you have to reconfigure/recompile your application so that it sees the
right libXm file.

HTH

Oli


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Re: apache2 apr_filename_of_pathname

[Olafur Jens Sigurdsson]

Þann 2006-10-13, 16:59:29 (+0200) skrifaði Ivan Glushkov:
> I have no idea if it runs or not, as far as I see it, it is not running, 
> but I cannot be sure:

You can allways check if a process is running by using the ps -A
command, so to check if apache is running you run ps -A | grep apache

> 16:55 h1siglushkov /home/glushkov # /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
> 
> Stopping apache 2.0 web server...grep: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf: 
> No such file or directory

Are there any files in that directory?
My computer shows this:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
cgi.load perl.conf  php4.conf  userdir.conf
mod_python.load  perl.load  php4.load  userdir.load

If there are no files in that directory try then to make a symbolic
link from /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgi.load in that dir and then
try to restart apache and if that works then you should be able to
upgrade your system.

HTH

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Re: kernel uninstall

[Kevin Mark]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 05:05:11PM +, Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Debian i386 etch kernel linux-image-2.6.15.1-k7 with appropriate nvidia 
> kernel, running OK.
> 
> Also installed linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 without proper match for X11.
> 
> Wanting to change to 2.6.17, I tried unsuccessfully to first unistall 2.6.16 
> (apt-get --purge remove), always aborted because package is in incorrect 
> state.
> 
> Neither apt-get -f install
> nor reinstall followed by --purge remove were successful (package in 
> incorrect 
> state).
> 
> Could you suggest how to get rid of 2.6.16?
> 
> Thank you
Hi Francesco,
what is the FULL message? 
what does 'dpkg -l |grep linux-image' show?
have your tried using 'dpkg' to remove it?
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Re: default nautilus character encoding

[Sven Arvidsson]

On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 23:13 +0200, Tobias Niemann wrote:
> I'd like to change the default character encoding from nautilus for
> creating files or directories. If I create a directory with (for
> example) a German Umlaut (e.g. testdatö) in nautilus, outside nautilus
> (here in aterm) it looks like this:
[...]
> If I create such a directory (with ö) in my shell, nautilus displays
> everything fine, too. It's just while creating, nautilus uses a
> different character encoding (I guess it's UTF-8?), while reading
> nautilus seems to use iso8859-15, too (besides the UTF-8).
> 
> I already tried to set G_FILENAME_ENCODING environment variable to
> @locale or [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my /etc/profile but although the variable
> definitely is being set ("env" displays the variable being set) nautilus
> seems to ignore it.
> 
> Does anybody have any idea how to change this behaviour?

I could be wrong, but I don't think that GNOME reads that file until
after Nautilus is started if you're running GDM. Instead, try creating a
custom .xsession and select it before logging in.

Also, try setting G_BROKEN_FILENAMES to true. 

In the long run, I think it's simply easier to embrace UTF-8 and take
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Re: Debian Weekly News?

[Kamaraju Kusumanchi]

On Friday 13 October 2006 20:40, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:30:12AM +0100, Wulfy wrote:
> > Joey Hess wrote:
> > >I've considered taking over writing DWN again (if you're confused, I'm
> > >the other Joey who originally started it in '99). However, it's not
> > >clear to me that DWN is still relevant enough to be worth the large
> > >amount of work it takes to maintain it[1]. A lot of communication is
> > > done on Planet Debian, wikis and in other forms that were not around
> > > when DWN was
> > >started, and that may be a better way to keep up with what's going on
> > >in Debian than DWN.
> >
> > The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing
> > lists.  DWN comes to me...  with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to
> > go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me
>
> With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation.
>

It is not the same however. There is also another crucial (well, atleast to 
me) difference. In planet debian, the author can choose to remove their posts 
after some period. Where as in a mailing list kind of interface, when I get 
the email, I get to keep it forever.

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kernel uninstall

[Francesco Pietra]

Debian i386 etch kernel linux-image-2.6.15.1-k7 with appropriate nvidia 
kernel, running OK.

Also installed linux-image-2.6.16-2-k7 without proper match for X11.

Wanting to change to 2.6.17, I tried unsuccessfully to first unistall 2.6.16 
(apt-get --purge remove), always aborted because package is in incorrect 
state.

Neither apt-get -f install
nor reinstall followed by --purge remove were successful (package in incorrect 
state).

Could you suggest how to get rid of 2.6.16?

Thank you

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> On 14-okt-2006, at 17:49, DRCNet wrote:
>> Dear friend:
>>
[snip]
> 
> I never realized Dogberts Ruling Class was pushing drug legalization!
> Let the induhviduals have their drugs, as long as it turns them into
> efficient working drones... :-)

Alert, alert!  There's an induhvidual lurking in our midst
pretending to be a member of the D*N*RC.

Quick, get the torches and pitchforks!!.

- --
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libmotif3

[Francesco Pietra]

On reinstall (debian etch), my molecular modeling application requests 

libXm.so.3

to run , while I was only able to find (as binary) 

libmotif3

for stable (not for testing or unstable).

Well, a trial installation of that libmotif3 for sarge (dpkg ...) was not 
accepted by the molecular modeling application (Error while loading shared 
libraries: libXm.so.3: not found)

$locate libXm.so
reported
warning, database '/var/cache/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
/usr/lib/libXm.so.2
/usr/lib/libXm.so.2.0.1

while the expected
/usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3
was not shown.

#apt-cache policy libmotif3
reported
Installed (and candidate) 2.2.3-1
Version table *** 2.2.3-1

(on previous running installation I had version 2.2.3-1.3 and also the 
installation /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3)


I have noticed some problem for etch as far as OpenMotif is concerned, though 
I must confess I am confused. Graphics for all scientific chemical 
application is based on OpenMotif, so that I am really in troubles.

Thanks a lot for suggestions.

Cheers
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Re: mDNS and /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Joey Hess]

BTW, this bug only affects system that have "search local" in
/etc/resolv.conf. This causes mdns to be tried for _every_ dns lookup,
which is bad. Details at http://bugs.debian.org/392813/

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RE: suggestions on site management

[Rodney Richison]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:26:27AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote:
> I need a site management tool to control group permissions, logons
etc.
> 
> I've installed and run postnuke, however, it seems to be a management
> nightmare. Not friendly at all. Very confusing. Am looking for
> alternatives, and since it will run on debian, I thought I'd see if
you
> guys had some suggestions.
> 
I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish.  Perhaps something
that stores its users in a database or can use LDAP would be better?


I guess I'm looking for web site management package. Though I hated to
put a name on it. I need to control the users access to certain parts of
the site. And possibly run a forum with it that will integrate with
mailman. 

Re: mDNS and /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Joey Hess]

Joey Hess wrote:
> It would be helpful if you could provide as much information as possible
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, including straces of programs
> failing, the versions of all the involved packages, and details about
> your dns setup.

Also include details of any firewall setup you might have. For example,
might you have firewalling that prohibits multicast UDP?

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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Marcello Di Marino Azevedo]

Em Sáb, 2006-10-14 às 19:54 +0100, Gerard Robin escreveu:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> >It would have been polite and darned useful for OP to have mentioned
> >that "what" is an SCCS command.
> >
> >Of course, then we all would have justifiably yelled, "Install
> >SCCS".
> in debian it's apt-get install cssc ?

Yes, just now I figured out that what isn't part of basic UNIX commands,
shame on me :-P

CSSC is a clone for SCCS, it has what inside.

Thank you all for help!
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Re: mDNS and /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Joey Hess]

Freddy Freeloader wrote:
> I was out of town for a couple of weeks so the first thing I did this 
> morning was update my system(I'm running Sid).  When I did I lost all 
> ability to access my dns server.  I started up a sniffer and found my 
> system was attempting to access port 5353 at 224.0.0.251, a multicast 
> address, to resolve url's. 
> 
> This turned out to be related to the libnss-mdns package and 
> modifications made to /etc/nsswitch.conf when it is installed.   This 
> was done without asking me if I wanted to use multicast DNS as the 
> default protocol for resolving url's during the update. 
> 
> To be able to use normal dns I had to modify /etc/nsswitch.conf.  I 
> removed "mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]" from the "hosts" line and was 
> able to access my dns server again. 

It would be helpful if you could provide as much information as possible
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] about this, including straces of programs
failing, the versions of all the involved packages, and details about
your dns setup.

> My question is: Does anyone know why the developers would be assume mdns 
> would be everyone's default protocol for DNS and make such a change 
> without notification during the upgrade process while not giving the 
> option of allowing you to keep your existing /etc/nsswitch.conf file?  

Because you had libnss-mdns installed so apparently want to use it, and
the change is not intended to make mdns be used for anything except for
.local address resolution.

Debian's policy for packages making modifications to configuration files
is that they only need to involve the admin in it if the admin has made
local changes that need to be manually dealt with. The method used by
libnss-mdns to update /etc/nsswitch.conf does meet the policy.

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Re: off-site backup

[Russell L. Harris]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering
> what people are using now.  

For economy and longevity, a conventional hard drive is good; but it
requires careful handling.  Physical impact or even severe vibration can
kill it, as can strong external magnetic fields.  At the very least, a
drive requires the protection of a drive enclosure with some sort of
shock mounting.

At present, there appears to be no better solution for archival storage
than flash memory sticks.  Expected lifetime is five to ten years, and
the devices are extremely rugged with respect to impact, vibration, and
magnetic fields.  (And the devices can be protected against strong
electric fields with a metallic enclosure.)

Memory sticks now can be had readily up to 4 gigabytes.

RLH


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Re: Linux and Newest Hardware

[Albert Dengg]

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On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 03:38:09PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote:
...
> What exactly is that today?  It's completely a matter of opinion.  My
> notion is something like a 2GHz 64-bit AMD or 3GHz Intel processor,
> 256MB DDR RAM, graphics chipset on motherboard, USB2.0 ports, DVD writer
> and a 150MB+ (modern) hard drive.  Purchasing a USB keyboard or wireless
> mouse at the local store should neither require a trip to the list nor
> compiling a kernel.  Such systems are plentiful, stable and cheap from
> mainstream manufacturers, even with the preinstalled commercial O/S.
with a recent kernel that should not be a problem...
sata works good here, most nw cards (at least wired ones) run quite
fine...
with usb port i have never had a problem nad for usb keyboard & mouse,
the hw is broken if it doesn't work as there are standardised protocols
for that... (ok the support for more than 3 mouse buttons is not that
complete in linux...

the only problem i really see is installing debian with a 2.6.8 kernel
on this hw (or using the mb integrated winmodem)

i have, however, less problems installing linux on my athlon64 system
then winxp...
for winxp i have to install a floppy drive because it does not support
another way of suplieng the sata driver

the bottom line is, sometimes you need a more recent kernel than a
distributian like debian does provide with its long release cycles (that
have their advantages to)

yours
albert

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Re: off-site backup

[Peter Teunissen]

On 14-okt-2006, at 14:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering
what people are using now.  Previous discussions I found on
lists.debian.org are a few years old.  Remote offsite (e.g. on another
computer at another site) is not an option for me.

I've been happy using 100 MB Zip disks; I can store everything except
CD-iso images on one or two and put it in the bank's safety-deposit  
box.

However, it has meant that I've had to burn to CD collections of
documents that I would preferr to keep online.  Then I end up with a
separate directory which is NOT backed-up to keep them online for
viewing.  My drives are over 10 years old and the media is close to  
it.

Time to migrate.

I can use small CD-R but they only hold 175 MB.  Full-size CDs  
don't fit

in the bank's box.

My new computer (Athlon-based) will have two 80 GB Seagate Barracuda
SATA drives in a raid1 configuration to handle drive failure.  I'm
looking for removable media to handle both data-failure and platform
failure (or local disaster).

At this point, I'm specifying a backup-set size of 10 GB although  
if the
media I choose is cheap enough, I would like to backup CD ISO  
images to

protect that data from CD scratches or other failure.

Physical size:  A Zip jewel case is 4-1/8" and fits the bank, a CD  
jewel

case is 4-3/4" and doesn't.

Minimum number of backup sets, 3: one in the drive, one on the shelf,
and one in the bank.  I'm looking at media at this point, not  
procedure.

I don't have a requirement to see what a file looked like months ago.
Also, this is in addition to online backups (in /var/local/backup).

I want physical robustness.  CDs are prone to scratch and I understand
that for all they're 'burned' with a laser there is some dye  
involved in

the process and they can fade in bright light or heat.  Able to
withstand a 1 m drop would be good, e.g. after its removed from its  
case

and before it gets into the drive.

10 year shelf life seems to be a common criteria for backup/archive
media.

I think that tape is overkill for only three sets of media; the drive
and SCSI card are too expensive.

There are Iomega removeables called Rev.  I don't know what real-world
reliability and longevety is like.

Quantum has a removable thing called GoVault that is basically a
ruggedized cartridge with a laptop-drive inside.  I don't know what
real-world reliability and logevety is like.

There are generic ruggedized drive caddies but I understand they're  
not

hot-swappable and I don't want to have to shutdown to change media.

At the small-end there's USB sticks but I don't know what the shelf- 
life

really is (other than Kingston's 5 year warranty).  Size-wise, this
would work as a floppy-replacement for the must-always-be-able-to-read
stuff (i.e. immediatly readable from any computer, linux or not, msdos
fs with plain-text, e.g. critical email).

Interface options I have now are eSATA, USB, Firewire.  Anything else
needs a card too; add it to the cost of the drive.

Given the choice, I would prefer external instead of internal.  In  
case
of a disaster-in-progress (e.g. house fire), can grab the drive and  
go;

or if something catestrophic happens to the computer, the drive may
survive.

All else being equal, I would prefer cheaper to expensive on a per-set
basis.  E.g. tape is probably chepest on a per GB basis (or is that  
per

TB) while USB stick is most expensive, but for 2 GB, USB is probably
cheapest per set.

What is you wisdom on this in-between area (more than a CD, less than
LTO or DLT)?

Thank,

Doug Tutty.

I'm a very happy user of an older external HP Surestore 40GB DAT  
drive. They're fast, cheap and when I was looking (about a year ago)  
there were easy to find second hand. I bought mine including a fast  
adaptec scsi card for about $50 on a dutch site similar to ebay. So:  
it's external, cheap drive & card and the media is cheap too. Seems  
to me exactly what you're looking for...



My 2 cents,

Peter



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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Gerard Robin]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

From: Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org



It would have been polite and darned useful for OP to have mentioned
that "what" is an SCCS command.

Of course, then we all would have justifiably yelled, "Install
SCCS".

in debian it's apt-get install cssc ?
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Today I discovered that I (again) can't sync my Tungsten T3 with my Etch
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As in my several-years-ago posting to this list, the /dev/ttyUSB* devices
just aren't created when the Palm device is detected by udev.
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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Ron Johnson]

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On 10/14/06 12:08, Marcello Di Marino Azevedo wrote:
> Em Sáb, 2006-10-14 às 18:55 +0200, Jochen Schulz escreveu:
>> Marcello Di Marino Azevedo:
>>> Anybody knows if we have something like "what" command under Debian as
>>> under HP-UX?
>> It would be easier to answer your question if you had told us what
>> "what" does on HP-UX. Unfortunately I don't have this OS at home. ;-)
>>
>> But maybe "which", "whatis" or "apropos" do what you expcet.
>>
>> J.
> 
> Take a look:
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.cmds/doc/aixcmds6/what.htm

It would have been polite and darned useful for OP to have mentioned
that "what" is an SCCS command.

Of course, then we all would have justifiably yelled, "Install
SCCS".

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Re: Firefox: Help > Report Broken Website

[amateur]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 02:43:33AM -0400, KS wrote:
> Hi,
> 
 
> 1. Open Firefox (opening page is about:blank)
> 2. Help > Report Broken Menu -- disabled
> 3. go to a web site, i.e. browse atleast one website
> 4. Help > Report Broken Menu -- enabled
> 

I think this should be a type of context-dynamic-menu. When you are at
about:blank, there is no webpages to report as broken, so the menu
item is disabled. While you are at a normal webpage, it would be
enabled. You can try this.


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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Marcello Di Marino Azevedo]

Em Sáb, 2006-10-14 às 18:55 +0200, Jochen Schulz escreveu:
> Marcello Di Marino Azevedo:
> >
> > Anybody knows if we have something like "what" command under Debian as
> > under HP-UX?
> 
> It would be easier to answer your question if you had told us what
> "what" does on HP-UX. Unfortunately I don't have this OS at home. ;-)
> 
> But maybe "which", "whatis" or "apropos" do what you expcet.
> 
> J.

Take a look:
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/pseries/v5r3/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.aix.cmds/doc/aixcmds6/what.htm

What command is not like whatis or whereis, nor even closer.

Under HP-UX I use it many times to catch some info about binaries, that
info you can write yourself on the binary during compilation process.
Then, using what command you can retrieve that info using it.

For example you can add info about who compiled, for which build number
and on what box. Very clever when you have an application with many
files and want know from where each one of them came from.

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Re: suggestions on site management

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On 10/14/06 11:34, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:26:27AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote:
>> I need a site management tool to control group permissions, logons etc.
>>
>> I've installed and run postnuke, however, it seems to be a management
>> nightmare. Not friendly at all. Very confusing. Am looking for
>> alternatives, and since it will run on debian, I thought I'd see if you
>> guys had some suggestions.
>>
> I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish.  Perhaps something
> that stores its users in a database or can use LDAP would be better?

Or are you referring to *web* site management?

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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Clive Menzies]

On (14/10/06 13:16), Marcello Di Marino Azevedo wrote:
> Anybody knows if we have something like "what" command under Debian as
> under HP-UX?
> 
> It is a little bit hard to google some info because "what" is a common
> word. ;-)

Don't think so... there's which and whatis but no what.  What does
'what' do under HP-UX?

Regards

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Re: "what" command under Debian

[Jochen Schulz]

Marcello Di Marino Azevedo:
>
> Anybody knows if we have something like "what" command under Debian as
> under HP-UX?

It would be easier to answer your question if you had told us what
"what" does on HP-UX. Unfortunately I don't have this OS at home. ;-)

But maybe "which", "whatis" or "apropos" do what you expcet.

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Re: suggestions on site management

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:26:27AM -0500, Rodney Richison wrote:
> I need a site management tool to control group permissions, logons etc.
> 
> I've installed and run postnuke, however, it seems to be a management
> nightmare. Not friendly at all. Very confusing. Am looking for
> alternatives, and since it will run on debian, I thought I'd see if you
> guys had some suggestions.
> 
I don't understand what you are trying to accomplish.  Perhaps something
that stores its users in a database or can use LDAP would be better?

Regards,

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suggestions on site management

[Rodney Richison]

I need a site management tool to control group permissions, logons etc.

I've installed and run postnuke, however, it seems to be a management
nightmare. Not friendly at all. Very confusing. Am looking for
alternatives, and since it will run on debian, I thought I'd see if you
guys had some suggestions.





Highest Regards,


Rodney Richison 
RCR Computing 
PO Box 566 - 118 N. Broadway 
Cleveland, OK 74020 
Phone: 918-358-

"what" command under Debian

[Marcello Di Marino Azevedo]

Anybody knows if we have something like "what" command under Debian as
under HP-UX?

It is a little bit hard to google some info because "what" is a common
word. ;-)

Tks
Marcello.


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RE: Unable to start courier-imap?

[Jan Johansson]

>Just a guess, but according to this old thread, it sounds like you're
running out >of memory?
>http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/02/msg01603.html

Doesn't quite seem logical:

haven:/etc/exim4# free
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   1029136 905276 123860  0  56588 245944
-/+ buffers/cache: 602744 426392
Swap:  3012148 563012092
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Re: Authentication failed

[Nyizsnyik Ferenc]

On Sat, 2006-10-14 at 10:03 +0800, loveboy wrote:
>  Hi,
> I updated all my software  in  this  mornig.But  when  I  reboot,all
> of the boot procedure is fine.But when I enter the user name, it
> display "Authentication failure". Can you help me?
> 
Just an idea: during the upgrade your locale (and so the keyboard
layout) may have changed, so you always "mis-type" your password. Check
this before you do anything irrevocable.

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Re: Debian & Old Toshiba Laptop

[Scarletdown]

On Wed, 2006-10-11 at 01:07 -0400, Kai wrote:
> I have a very old Toshiba laptop and I am looking to put Debian or
> some other form of linux on it.
> Details:
> CPU: Pentium I
> HD: ~700MB
> RAM: 16MB
> 2 PC Card slots, but some newer cards (such as wireless cards) do not fit
> Linksys EtherFast PC Card
> A wireless router, however I can not seem to set up a Windows network on it
> A Sony Vaio CD-RW drive PC Card
> an external bootable floppy drive on a special floppy port
> A working dock with parallel, serial, PS/2 and monitor ports
> 
> I can boot and install from a large stack of floppys (20-25 disks),
> but I want to install from a CD or network and choose certain
> packages. I can access the CD during installation, and after install,
> but I can't boot from it, even using a Smart Boot Manager floppy. I
> want to install any base packages (preferably ash, not bash), and I
> want to use Xfce or IceWM-lite as a GUI, because the computer is so
> limited.

The simplest way to get started is to get an adapter so you can plug the
hard drive into the IDE controller of a desktop computer that can boot
from the CD-ROM drive.  Once you have that, just to a bare bones Debian
install (deselecting everything in tasksel).  Once you have that done,
then you can put the drive back into the laptop and add packages as
needed.

I would also recommend getting a higher capacity hard drive and more RAM
(if the laptop can take more than 16MB).  I also have an old Toshiba
laptop that is going to be set up with Linux soon.  She's a Satellite
Pro CDT.  I just recently maxed out her RAM at 40MB and replaced the
810MB drive with a 6.4GB drive.  2GB of that is for Windows 98SE Lite
(that's 98SE with IE totally eradicated thanks to this little tool from
litepc.com.)  The rest is going to be Debian sid with IceWM.




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mDNS and /etc/nsswitch.conf

[Freddy Freeloader]

Hi All,

I was out of town for a couple of weeks so the first thing I did this 
morning was update my system(I'm running Sid).  When I did I lost all 
ability to access my dns server.  I started up a sniffer and found my 
system was attempting to access port 5353 at 224.0.0.251, a multicast 
address, to resolve url's. 

This turned out to be related to the libnss-mdns package and 
modifications made to /etc/nsswitch.conf when it is installed.   This 
was done without asking me if I wanted to use multicast DNS as the 
default protocol for resolving url's during the update. 

To be able to use normal dns I had to modify /etc/nsswitch.conf.  I 
removed "mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]" from the "hosts" line and was 
able to access my dns server again. 

My question is: Does anyone know why the developers would be assume mdns 
would be everyone's default protocol for DNS and make such a change 
without notification during the upgrade process while not giving the 
option of allowing you to keep your existing /etc/nsswitch.conf file?  
If I hadn't known how to use a sniffer and hadn't understood what a 
multicast address is I'd have been really lost in trying to figure out 
what had happened to my ability to access my DNS server. 

The changes to /etc/nsswitch.conf that cause the system to default to 
mDNS for all DNS resolution are documented in 
/usr/share/doc/libnss-mdns/README.Debian if anyone is interested.



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use of -m limit for Syn Flood protection

[Brent Clark]

Hey all

In my continuous quest to understand TCP and netfilter / iptables more, I have 
started experimenting with rate limiting and different TCP Flags.

On my Lan I have mail server and obviously ident requests are perform etc, so I 
currently im trying this

# we allow 4 TCP connects per second, no more
$IPT -N syn-flood
$IPT -A syn-flood -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 4 -j LOG --log-level info 
--log-prefix ' Syn Flood '
$IPT -A syn-flood -m limit --limit 1/s --limit-burst 4 -j RETURN
$IPT -A syn-flood -j DROP

$IPT -t filter -A FORWARD -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT
$IPT -A FORWARD -p tcp --syn -j syn-flood

so now I get this

Oct 14 14:51:46 gate kernel:  Syn Flood IN=eth1 OUT=eth0 
SRC=192.168.111.11 DST=218.15.249.32 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=23007 
DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40108 DPT=113 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN
URGP=0
Oct 14 14:51:49 gate kernel:  Syn Flood IN=eth1 OUT=eth0 
SRC=192.168.111.11 DST=218.15.249.32 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=23008 
DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40108 DPT=113 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN
URGP=0
Oct 14 14:51:55 gate kernel:  Syn Flood IN=eth1 OUT=eth0 
SRC=192.168.111.11 DST=218.15.249.32 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=23009 
DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40108 DPT=113 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN
URGP=0
Oct 14 14:52:07 gate kernel:  Syn Flood IN=eth1 OUT=eth0 
SRC=192.168.111.11 DST=218.15.249.32 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=63 ID=23010 
DF PROTO=TCP SPT=40108 DPT=113 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 SYN
URGP=0

So my question is, have I maybe been to aggressive on the limit.

I use the -j syn-flood for both FORWARD and INPUT


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Re: off-site backup

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> lists.debian.org are a few years old.  Remote offsite (e.g. on another
> computer at another site) is not an option for me.

Mail them to your parents house.  If you live in your parents house,
mail them to your grandparents house.

[snip]
> 
> All else being equal, I would prefer cheaper to expensive on a per-set
> basis.  E.g. tape is probably chepest on a per GB basis (or is that per
> TB) while USB stick is most expensive, but for 2 GB, USB is probably
> cheapest per set.
> 
> What is you wisdom on this in-between area (more than a CD, less than
> LTO or DLT)?

Ebay has 20GB drives for $10 & 40GB drives for $20.  You'd only need
 one external enclosure.

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off-site backup

[dtutty]

I'm reviewing/planning for new offsite backup media and am wondering
what people are using now.  Previous discussions I found on
lists.debian.org are a few years old.  Remote offsite (e.g. on another
computer at another site) is not an option for me.

I've been happy using 100 MB Zip disks; I can store everything except
CD-iso images on one or two and put it in the bank's safety-deposit box.
However, it has meant that I've had to burn to CD collections of
documents that I would preferr to keep online.  Then I end up with a
separate directory which is NOT backed-up to keep them online for
viewing.  My drives are over 10 years old and the media is close to it.
Time to migrate.

I can use small CD-R but they only hold 175 MB.  Full-size CDs don't fit
in the bank's box.

My new computer (Athlon-based) will have two 80 GB Seagate Barracuda
SATA drives in a raid1 configuration to handle drive failure.  I'm
looking for removable media to handle both data-failure and platform
failure (or local disaster).  

At this point, I'm specifying a backup-set size of 10 GB although if the
media I choose is cheap enough, I would like to backup CD ISO images to
protect that data from CD scratches or other failure.

Physical size:  A Zip jewel case is 4-1/8" and fits the bank, a CD jewel
case is 4-3/4" and doesn't.  

Minimum number of backup sets, 3: one in the drive, one on the shelf,
and one in the bank.  I'm looking at media at this point, not procedure.
I don't have a requirement to see what a file looked like months ago.
Also, this is in addition to online backups (in /var/local/backup).

I want physical robustness.  CDs are prone to scratch and I understand
that for all they're 'burned' with a laser there is some dye involved in
the process and they can fade in bright light or heat.  Able to
withstand a 1 m drop would be good, e.g. after its removed from its case
and before it gets into the drive.  

10 year shelf life seems to be a common criteria for backup/archive
media.

I think that tape is overkill for only three sets of media; the drive
and SCSI card are too expensive.  

There are Iomega removeables called Rev.  I don't know what real-world
reliability and longevety is like.

Quantum has a removable thing called GoVault that is basically a
ruggedized cartridge with a laptop-drive inside.  I don't know what
real-world reliability and logevety is like.

There are generic ruggedized drive caddies but I understand they're not
hot-swappable and I don't want to have to shutdown to change media.

At the small-end there's USB sticks but I don't know what the shelf-life
really is (other than Kingston's 5 year warranty).  Size-wise, this
would work as a floppy-replacement for the must-always-be-able-to-read
stuff (i.e. immediatly readable from any computer, linux or not, msdos
fs with plain-text, e.g. critical email).

Interface options I have now are eSATA, USB, Firewire.  Anything else
needs a card too; add it to the cost of the drive.

Given the choice, I would prefer external instead of internal.  In case
of a disaster-in-progress (e.g. house fire), can grab the drive and go;
or if something catestrophic happens to the computer, the drive may
survive.

All else being equal, I would prefer cheaper to expensive on a per-set
basis.  E.g. tape is probably chepest on a per GB basis (or is that per
TB) while USB stick is most expensive, but for 2 GB, USB is probably
cheapest per set.

What is you wisdom on this in-between area (more than a CD, less than
LTO or DLT)?

Thank,

Doug Tutty.


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Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

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On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:45:00PM +0200, HXC wrote:
> >   
> As an alternative you can set kde as the default session in /etc/rc.conf
> and start kde with startx

As yet another alternative, you start KDE with the startkde command.

Regards,

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Re: why "Starting MTA: exim4" take so much time?

[Eduard Bloch]

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* Serena Cantor [Fri, Oct 13 2006, 07:02:26PM]:
> During sarge installation, I select 3rd option (local delivery). Each time it 
> boots, starting MTA
> take too much time, I have to remove it from /etc/rc2.d.

You have a broken (but configured) internet connection? Your DNS makes
problems?

Run "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config -p low" and say yes in the "Minimize
DNS requests" question.

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Re: custom linux kernel in debian sarge

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> I have a ABIT UL8 motherboart (uli M1689 chipset)and 2 SATA hard disk. I like 
> install the debian sarge in this machine on the SATA hard drive. But the 
> running the installer not recognize the hard drive, it say not disk in this 
> machine whereof install the system. I detect in the kernel 2.6.8 not in the 
> uli chipset driver. I think i make a new install disk for my custom kernel 
> 2.6.11 because in this kernel include this driver. My question that how to 
> make a new install disk. I change the boot kernel image in the boot image?
>   
http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers

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Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

[HXC]

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

  On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:46:39AM -0400, Ted Kester wrote:
  
  
Where do I get the opportunity to "choose" the session typeI've done it
with other
distros by changing /etc/Desktop..

BTW.. Thanks for your quick response to my Butt-In...


  
  No problem.

If you are using gdm (or even kdm, I think) you can click "session" at
the login screen and it will let you pick.  If it is not your default
already, it will ask if you want to make it your default.

Also, please don't top post.  It is considered impolite on this list.

Regards,

-Roberto

  

As an alternative you can set kde as the default session in
/etc/rc.conf and start kde with startx

Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 07:46:39AM -0400, Ted Kester wrote:
> Where do I get the opportunity to "choose" the session typeI've done it
> with other
> distros by changing /etc/Desktop..
> 
> BTW.. Thanks for your quick response to my Butt-In...
> 
No problem.

If you are using gdm (or even kdm, I think) you can click "session" at
the login screen and it will let you pick.  If it is not your default
already, it will ask if you want to make it your default.

Also, please don't top post.  It is considered impolite on this list.

Regards,

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Re: no $DISPLAY with ssh -X

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:19:16AM +0300, Artem Zolochevskiy wrote:
> hi all
> 
> Why i'm unable to run xterm on remote ssh server?
> $DISPLAY is not set :(
> 
First, make sure that you don't have "ForwardX11 no" in the *client's*
/etc/ssh/ssh_config.

Second, make sure that /usr/X11R6/bin/xauth (or whatever the X.org
equivalent is; in Sarge it is in the xbase-clients package) is installed
on the server.

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Re: no $DISPLAY with ssh -X

[Wang Xu]

2006/10/14, Artem Zolochevskiy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xterm
xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


I had met such a case days ago, finally I found
the ``lo'' interface was not up.
after correct interfaces file and ifup lo, it works.

however, i think it is not a common case and you
may try with ssh -Y .

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no $DISPLAY with ssh -X

[Artem Zolochevskiy]

hi all

Why i'm unable to run xterm on remote ssh server?
$DISPLAY is not set :(

on ssh server
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep X11 /etc/ssh/sshd_config
X11Forwarding yes
X11DisplayOffset 10

on my local pc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ ssh -X [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xterm
xterm Xt error: Can't open display:
xterm:  DISPLAY is not set
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ echo $DISPLAY

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Is something wrong in my sshd_config ?
Should I set $DISPLAY manually?

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Re: build own deb-packages

[steef]

Raphael Brunner wrote:

Dear Users

I know, this is a stupid question, but I can't find the common way to do
this:

I have a driver downloadet for my wlan-card. I must compile it with
make, make install

Now, I don't want to "make install". I want to build a .deb package and
install this on my system.

How is the common way in debian to do this? And if it's very hard to do
this, is there also a easier way?

Thanks for your help and ideas...

Greetings Raphael


  
doenload alien and read the manpage to see if this debian package fits 
your ends.


regards,

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Re: build own deb-packages

[Steve Kemp]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:36:04PM +0200, Raphael Brunner wrote:

> Now, I don't want to "make install". I want to build a .deb package and
> install this on my system.

  Use "checkinstall":

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/147

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Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

[Ted Kester]

Where do I get the opportunity to "choose" the session typeI've done it with other
distros by changing /etc/Desktop..

BTW.. Thanks for your quick response to my Butt-In...On 10/14/06, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 06:55:28AM -0400, Ted Kester wrote:> While solving this problem, could someone please tell me how to switch from
> Gnome to KDE ??>Just install KDE and choose it as the session type the next time you login.Regards,-Roberto--Roberto C. Sanchez
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build own deb-packages

[Raphael Brunner]

Dear Users

I know, this is a stupid question, but I can't find the common way to do
this:

I have a driver downloadet for my wlan-card. I must compile it with
make, make install

Now, I don't want to "make install". I want to build a .deb package and
install this on my system.

How is the common way in debian to do this? And if it's very hard to do
this, is there also a easier way?

Thanks for your help and ideas...

Greetings Raphael


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Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 06:55:28AM -0400, Ted Kester wrote:
> While solving this problem, could someone please tell me how to switch from
> Gnome to KDE ??
> 

Just install KDE and choose it as the session type the next time you log
in.

Regards,

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Re: exportar datos evolution

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 11:33:09AM +0200, Tito wrote:
> Buenos días a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Tengo un problemilla con evolution. Para llevarme toda la información de
> un equipo a otro he copiado el directorio .evolution que tengo en mi
> home a la del nuevo equipo. Con eso veo todos los mails, reglas, datos
> del calendario, tareas, etc. pero no me exporta la información de las
> cuentas de correo que tengo configuradas. Así que, al arrancarlo, me
> pide que cree una nueva cuenta.
> 
> ¿Alguien me puede decir cómo exportar también esta información? Me
> gustaría exportar todo tal cual lo tengo en este equipo.
> 
Tito,

Esta lista es para discusiones en espanol.  Mejor es usar la lista
debian-user-spanish.  Yo no se nada de Evolution, pero me imagino que so
no puedes resolverlo de otra forma, puedes mover tu directorio $HOME
entero y probarlo asi.

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Re: Debian Weekly News?

[Roberto C. Sanchez]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 11:20:15PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > From the September 26 DWN:
> > 
> > As Debian experiments with funding, the author of DWN is going to 
> > experiment 
> > with spending less time on Debian. Please understand that due to this there 
> > may be no future issues of DWN in the current form or that they will only 
> > be 
> > released less frequently.
> 
> A rather petulant and small-minded response along the lines of "I'll
> take my ball and go home" to what seems to me a rather resonable way
> of meeting a schedule.  I fail to see what the big deal is as it seems
> many developers are paid to work on Debian in one fashion or another.
> 

OK.  Stop right there!


I don't mean that we *can't* hae this dicussion.  Rather that this
discussion has been "raging" on debian-project for about a week now, and
on debian-private before that.  Anyhow, you can read that thread here:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2006/10/msg00036.html

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Re: Need Help Installing KDE on Debian

[Ted Kester]

While solving this problem, could someone please tell me how to switch from Gnome to KDE ??

Thanks

Ted in AtlantaOn 10/13/06, Angelina Carlton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mark Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:> I have Sarge installed and would like to install kde. However, the kde package> seems to be broken (as well as the gnome package).
>Hi Mark,Are you sure they are broken?Can you tell us what you did to install KDE and what happened, possiblywith error messages?---Angelina Carlton-orchid on 
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Re: webmin in Etch?

[Florian Ernst]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 01:42:16AM -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are plans to include webmin as a part of Etch?

Well, considering that webmin currently isn't even part of unstable
the chances of including it in Etch are almost nonexistant.

Please see

for the former maintainer's reasoning for webmin removal from Debian.

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[Mark Grieveson]

Does anyone know if there are plans to include webmin as a part of Etch?


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Debian testing form DVD freezes on boot

[Jim Ham]

Hi,

I've just finished downloading Debian Testing DVD #1 for AMD-64 on 
13Oct2006. It went through the entire install process but on the first boot 
the machine freezes after the  line:

io scheduler cfq registered

Has anyone a clue on what I can do to get through the entire boot? This 
machine has win2K installed and has had ubuntu for the AMD64 working up to 
now, so I don't think it's a hardware issue.


Regards,

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exportar datos evolution

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Buenos días a [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tengo un problemilla con evolution. Para llevarme toda la información de
un equipo a otro he copiado el directorio .evolution que tengo en mi
home a la del nuevo equipo. Con eso veo todos los mails, reglas, datos
del calendario, tareas, etc. pero no me exporta la información de las
cuentas de correo que tengo configuradas. Así que, al arrancarlo, me
pide que cree una nueva cuenta.

¿Alguien me puede decir cómo exportar también esta información? Me
gustaría exportar todo tal cual lo tengo en este equipo.

Muchas gracias.

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ATI's SB400 Southbridge - Linux support

[michael bailey]

Please does anyone know of any good Linux support
 for ATI's SB400 southbridge on their Radeon Xpress
 200 chipset ?

 I have a Debian Sarge system (kernel level 2.4.27)
 and want to use ATI's Xpresws 200 chipset with an 
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Re: Xen doesn't boot on sarge

[Steve Kemp]

On Sat, Oct 14, 2006 at 02:06:05AM -0400, Chris Howie wrote:
> I'm trying to set up Xen on a sarge box, using the guide at
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/423
> 

  Known problem caused by a mismatch between the Xen kernel and the
 xen hypervisor.

  You'll need to get hold of either:

a) An older xen-hypervisor
b) A newer kernel.

  Personally I've had success using the shapshot server, for sid:
 http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/435 - or the
 xen-utils-3.0-unstable-1 package.

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Re: Debian Weekly News?

[Steve Kemp]

On Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 08:40:55PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

> > The problem with this is the same as the problem with fora vs. mailing 
> > lists.  DWN comes to me...  with Planet Debian and the rest, I have to 
> > go to them to find out if there's anything of interest to me
> > 
> With Planet Debian and the rest, you can just use RSS aggregation.

  And searching too:

http://planet-search.steve.org.uk/

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Re: Petition about the Firefox trademark problem

[HXC]

aliosha samodossi wrote:

  Debian is a bastion of freedom with strict
rules about what does or

does not qualify as freedom. We use debian for a variety of reasons,

but we all (should) know that at the core of Debian is this

freedom. We choose whether to use less free portions of Debian, but

are not forced to in any way as the core of Debian is free.


Firefox is the current front-runner for secure, stable, all-around

good web-browsers. This is not a judgement of FF, just an

observation. Mozilla has changed how it handles some of its IP and the

freedom of that IP (specifically the artwork). Okay, maybe they

haven't changed it, but they are trying to enforce it. Regardless,

this less than free IP is not acceptable to Debian. But, Debian wants

to include FF in its distribution for reasons listed above. So there

are two alternatives: either Moz relaxes its rules around the

less-than-free artwork, or Debian packages a more free version of FF

  
  
Clear and useful explanation. Thank you.
  
  
  

How about the Debian Official Logo? http://www.debian.org/logos/
in what differs this from the mozilla guidelines?

P.S. no flaimbait, just curious

Re: why "Starting MTA: exim4" take so much time?

[John O'Hagan]

On Saturday 14 October 2006 12:02, Serena Cantor wrote:
> During sarge installation, I select 3rd option (local delivery). Each time
> it boots, starting MTA take too much time, I have to remove it from
> /etc/rc2.d.
>
> Is there any problem with that?


AFAIK you should have some kind of MTA on your system even if you don't use it 
yourself, as some programs use it. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I seem to remember having a similar slow-startup issue which was fixed by 
running dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config (as root), and answering "No" to the 
final rather confusing question about Dial-on-demand. This stops exim4 from 
doing DNS lookups at boot.

Might help...

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Re: how could i scan more cds after installation to use as mirrors ?

[Mumia W..]

On 10/14/2006 01:25 AM, Jabka Atu wrote:

Hello...
i'd like to add more cds to my debian installation.
now i have only 1 cd and i wish to add more 3 dvds.

thnx in advance.



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Re: dchroot and program parameters

[Lubos Vrbka]

how to use dchroot for program with parameters?

I never seems to get it working:

 $ dchroot -d ls --color=auto -lF
 E: unknown option color
 I: Run "dchroot --help" to list usage example and all available options

 $ dchroot -d ls "--color=auto -lF"
 E: unknown option color
 I: Run "dchroot --help" to list usage example and all available options

 $ dchroot -d ls \"--color=auto -lF\"
 E: unknown option -F
 I: Run "dchroot --help" to list usage example and all available options

what about
dchroot -d -- ls --color=auto -lF
i think this might work although i haven't tested...

regards,

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Re: GRUB Configuration

[KS]

Gilberto Martins wrote:
> > The Questions:
> > 1) How can I configure GRUB without timeout ? I just want it to show
> > the optons and wait for operation

comment it out
> > 2) How can I configure it to show an image (eg: JPG) ?

you will need:
$ dpkg -l *bootsplash* | grep ^ii
ii  bootsplash 3.3-1  Enables a graphical boot
screen
ii  bootsplash-theme-debian0.5-6  The bootsplash theme debian
ii  linux-patch-bootsplash 2.6.18-1   Bootsplash enables a
graphical boot screen (


and read the HowTo on http://ruslug.rutgers.edu/~mcgrof/grub-images/

HTH
/ks

PS: I didn't realize earlier that I had replied on to Gilberto.


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Authentication failed

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 Hi,I updated all my software  in  this  mornig.But  when  I  reboot,all of the boot procedure is fine.But when I enter the user name, it display "Authentication failure". Can you help me?   

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