Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Lorenzo Bettini

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 06:40:51PM +0100, Tom wrote:

Isn't PHP's greatest strength its online-ness and user comments? Why
not use it that way, there's plenty of mirrors, and browsers usually
have caching mechanisms. :)


Yes.  However, there are times when it is nice to be able to have a copy
of the documentation on the local machine.  Like when Internet access is
unavailable.


If that's not enough, they offer documentation for offline use at [1].


Personally, I prefer to use the Debian packaged documentation whenever
possible, since it usually more closely matches the version included in
Debian.  If upstream is very active with documentation, like PHP or
PostgreSQL, then they keep the online docs very up to date.  Thus, they
may not exactly match what is installed if you are using the Debian
packages.



Thanks Roberto, that was exactly my point :-)

cheers
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Re: sarge iptables

2007-01-08 Thread web8_debian
> On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:59:44AM +0100, Marc wrote:
>> Hi there,
>> my kernel (2.6.18) has hashlimit support for iptables compiled in.
>> Now I try to insert a rule using hashlimit, then the following appears:
>>
>> iptables v1.2.11: Couldn't load match
>> `hashlimit':/lib/iptables/libipt_hashlimit.so: cannot open shared object
>> file: No such file or directory
>>
>> Why is it looking for a module and not using the hashlimit that is
>> already compiled into the kernel... What am I doing wrong?
>>
> It appears that you are either using a backports kernel or rolling your
> own?  Have you updated iptables?  Are you sure that the version of
> iptables in Sarge knows where the hashlimit support is?

You are right, its my very private kernel :-)
Doesn't this older iptables know where to look for its features in newer
kernels then? Maybe I'll just wait for Etch ... ;-)
Or maybe I will compile another kernel, tell it to make hashlimit as a
module and put the .so into /lib/ directly, although that would be kind of
desperate...

Regards,
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Re: Re: Recording sound being played

2007-01-08 Thread Philippe Cloutier

Thank you, Sven and Andrew.

Using audacity and the default input worked, as soon as I started 
checking that the Capture channel was enabled. If anyone wants to try 
the same, check the Capture channel, and often. It seems to be disabled 
all the time.



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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:28:16PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> > okay, I'll buy that, but then what's dialout for?
> 
> You need to be in "dialout" to run programs such as Minicom that connect to
> serial ports.  The names "dip" and "dialout" are of historic significance
> only.

what perfect timing on this information as I set off to try and link
up an old laptop to a desktop with a null-modem serial cable ;)

thanks

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 10:28:16PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> > okay, I'll buy that, but then what's dialout for?
> 
> You need to be in "dialout" to run programs such as Minicom that connect to
> serial ports.  The names "dip" and "dialout" are of historic significance
> only.

I think dip is for users who may "dial ip" e.g. establish a ppp link,
and dialout is for users who may "dial out" anything.

Doug.

 


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Re: sound in kernel 2.6.19.1

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 01:26:18AM +0200, jobs wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I have not sound using mplayer or any player but I have the beep sound.
> 
> I was compiled kernel 2.6.19.1 almost with the same sound config as 
> with the kernel-2.6.15.1, but I have not sound using the new kernel.
> I get two errors on boot time (using 2.6.19.1) that wasn't in the old 
> kernel-2.6.15.1, next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.19.1 boot 
> file (/var/log/boot):
> >   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: soundcore
> >   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module soundcore not found.
> >   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: snd
> >   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module snd not found.
> But there modules are not exist also in the kernel-2.6.15.1 modules, but 
> in some way, in the old kernel these modules are loaded successfully, 
> next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.15.1 boot file:
> >   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: soundcore
> >   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd
> >   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd-timer
> 
> All the other thinks in a boot file are almost the same, but I get in 
> the aumix application only: "Vol", "Synth", "Line", "Mic" and "CD"
> without: "Mix", "Pcm", "IGaim", "OGaim" and the others.
> 

I don't know about home-rolled kernels but in Etch stock kernels OSS is
depreciated in favor of alsa.  Install all the alsa packages and run
alsa-config.   Then again, Etch also uses udev to get the right modules
loaded for your hardware.  Don't know how that works in Sarge.

Good luck.

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sound in kernel 2.6.19.1

2007-01-08 Thread gustavo halperin

Hello

I have not sound using mplayer or any player but I have the beep sound.

I was compiled kernel 2.6.19.1 almost with the same sound config as with 
the kernel-2.6.15.1, but I have not sound using the new kernel.
I get two errors on boot time (using 2.6.19.1) that wasn't in the old 
kernel-2.6.15.1, next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.19.1 boot 
file (/var/log/boot):

>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module soundcore not found.
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module snd not found.
But there modules are not exist also in the kernel-2.6.15.1 modules, but 
in some way, in the old kernel these modules are loaded successfully, 
next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.15.1 boot file:

>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd-timer

All the other thinks in a boot file are almost the same, but I get in 
the aumix application only: "Vol", "Synth", "Line", "Mic" and "CD"

without: "Mix", "Pcm", "IGaim", "OGaim" and the others.

Thank you in advance,
 Gustavo


I also attach next the sound modules loaded in /proc/modules:
- 


snd_usb_audio 83200 0 - Live 0xf1db5000
snd_usb_lib 17792 1 snd_usb_audio, Live 0xf1d54000
snd_ali5451 26316 0 - Live 0xf1d4c000
snd_intel8x0m 19020 0 - Live 0xf1d0d000
snd_intel8x0 34588 0 - Live 0xf1d23000
snd_mtpav 10056 0 - Live 0xf142
snd_virmidi 6080 0 - Live 0xf13f7000
snd_seq_virmidi 8064 1 snd_virmidi, Live 0xf13f4000
snd_seq_midi_event 7744 1 snd_seq_virmidi, Live 0xf13f1000
snd_dummy 11968 2 - Live 0xf13ed000
snd_ac97_codec 96164 3 snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0, Live 
0xf143f000

snd_ac97_bus 2880 1 snd_ac97_codec, Live 0xf12c9000
snd_vx_lib 35008 0 - Live 0xf1416000
snd_opl3_lib 11712 0 - Live 0xf13e9000
snd_mpu401_uart 9408 0 - Live 0xf13cf000
snd_pcm_oss 46848 0 - Live 0xf1409000
snd_mixer_oss 18048 3 snd_pcm_oss, Live 0xf13c1000
snd_seq_dummy 4484 0 - Live 0xf13be000
snd_seq 53808 3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_dummy, Live 
0xf13fa000
snd_rawmidi 25408 4 
snd_usb_lib,snd_mtpav,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart, Live 0xf13c7000
snd_seq_device 9036 4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi, 
Live 0xf13ba000

snd_hwdep 10180 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib, Live 0xf13ae000
snd_pcm 83076 8 
snd_usb_audio,snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_dummy,snd_ac97_codec,snd_vx_lib,snd_pcm_oss, 
Live 0xf13d3000

snd_page_alloc 10952 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13a2000
snd_timer 24580 3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13b2000
usbcore 139460 42 
snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,safe_serial,keyspan_pda,ipaq,visor,ftdi_sio,empeg,digi_acceleport,whiteheat,belkin_sa,usbserial,sisusbvga,ftdi_elan,usbled,usblcd,uss720,usbmouse,usbkbd,usb_storage,usbhid,gspca,usblp,cdc_acm,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,dabusb,dsbr100,cpia2,cpia_usb,ds2490,zd1211rw,zd1201,bfusb,bpa10x,bcm203x,hci_usb,mcs7780,stir4200,irda_usb, 
Live 0xf0cbb000
firmware_class 10688 10 
ipw2100,snd_vx_lib,zd1211rw,zd1201,bt3c_cs,bfusb,bcm203x,irda_usb,pcmcia,microcode, 
Live 0xf0815000
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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:11:01PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:40:45PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> > Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > > Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up connection for
> > > xfce?
> > 
> > Try gpppon.  It is essentially a GUI wrapper around pon and poff.
> > Configure PPP with pppconfig.
> > 
> > Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> > > what group is pppd? I think you can just add yourself to the dialout
> > > group.
> > 
> > You need to be in the "dip" group.  No need to be in "dialout".
> 
> okay, I'll buy that, but then what's dialout for? is it just for
> dialing the phone (say for a voice or fax call?) as opposed to making
> a ppp connection?
> 
Its for dialing out directly with the modem e.g. with minicom.

Doug.




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quake in xfce

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Grieveson
I've noticed that when I play quake2 in xfce, that it briefly freezes every 
once in a while.  This does not happen if I'm using Gnome, or Ion3.  Anyone 
else noticed this?  I'm using Etch, on a Pentium III with 450 MHz, and 384 MB 
ram.

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> okay, I'll buy that, but then what's dialout for?

You need to be in "dialout" to run programs such as Minicom that connect to
serial ports.  The names "dip" and "dialout" are of historic significance
only.
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sound in kernel 2.6.19.1

2007-01-08 Thread jobs

Hello

I have not sound using mplayer or any player but I have the beep sound.

I was compiled kernel 2.6.19.1 almost with the same sound config as 
with the kernel-2.6.15.1, but I have not sound using the new kernel.
I get two errors on boot time (using 2.6.19.1) that wasn't in the old 
kernel-2.6.15.1, next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.19.1 boot 
file (/var/log/boot):

>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module soundcore not found.
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module snd not found.
But there modules are not exist also in the kernel-2.6.15.1 modules, but 
in some way, in the old kernel these modules are loaded successfully, 
next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.15.1 boot file:

>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd-timer

All the other thinks in a boot file are almost the same, but I get in 
the aumix application only: "Vol", "Synth", "Line", "Mic" and "CD"

without: "Mix", "Pcm", "IGaim", "OGaim" and the others.

 Thank you in advance,
  Gustavo
 


I also attach next the sound modules loaded in /proc/modules:
-
snd_usb_audio 83200 0 - Live 0xf1db5000
snd_usb_lib 17792 1 snd_usb_audio, Live 0xf1d54000
snd_ali5451 26316 0 - Live 0xf1d4c000
snd_intel8x0m 19020 0 - Live 0xf1d0d000
snd_intel8x0 34588 0 - Live 0xf1d23000
snd_mtpav 10056 0 - Live 0xf142
snd_virmidi 6080 0 - Live 0xf13f7000
snd_seq_virmidi 8064 1 snd_virmidi, Live 0xf13f4000
snd_seq_midi_event 7744 1 snd_seq_virmidi, Live 0xf13f1000
snd_dummy 11968 2 - Live 0xf13ed000
snd_ac97_codec 96164 3 snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0, Live 
0xf143f000

snd_ac97_bus 2880 1 snd_ac97_codec, Live 0xf12c9000
snd_vx_lib 35008 0 - Live 0xf1416000
snd_opl3_lib 11712 0 - Live 0xf13e9000
snd_mpu401_uart 9408 0 - Live 0xf13cf000
snd_pcm_oss 46848 0 - Live 0xf1409000
snd_mixer_oss 18048 3 snd_pcm_oss, Live 0xf13c1000
snd_seq_dummy 4484 0 - Live 0xf13be000
snd_seq 53808 3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_dummy, Live 
0xf13fa000
snd_rawmidi 25408 4 
snd_usb_lib,snd_mtpav,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart, Live 0xf13c7000
snd_seq_device 9036 4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi, 
Live 0xf13ba000

snd_hwdep 10180 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib, Live 0xf13ae000
snd_pcm 83076 8 
snd_usb_audio,snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_dummy,snd_ac97_codec,snd_vx_lib,snd_pcm_oss, 
Live 0xf13d3000

snd_page_alloc 10952 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13a2000
snd_timer 24580 3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13b2000
usbcore 139460 42 
snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,safe_serial,keyspan_pda,ipaq,visor,ftdi_sio,empeg,digi_acceleport,whiteheat,belkin_sa,usbserial,sisusbvga,ftdi_elan,usbled,usblcd,uss720,usbmouse,usbkbd,usb_storage,usbhid,gspca,usblp,cdc_acm,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,dabusb,dsbr100,cpia2,cpia_usb,ds2490,zd1211rw,zd1201,bfusb,bpa10x,bcm203x,hci_usb,mcs7780,stir4200,irda_usb, 
Live 0xf0cbb000
firmware_class 10688 10 
ipw2100,snd_vx_lib,zd1211rw,zd1201,bt3c_cs,bfusb,bcm203x,irda_usb,pcmcia,microcode, 
Live 0xf0815000

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FIXED was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Scott

Paul Scott wrote:

ss11223 wrote:

That's an oddity. Have you tried http://www.us.debian.org/ ?

  

That works!  I also *can't* get to www.debian.org from a Windoze box on
this LAN.

I'm checking to see if anyone at my ISP is having trouble.
I wrote my ISP and the problem was fixed when I got home.  I haven't 
heard back from them but from traceroute it looks like it might have 
been some kind of DNS problem.


Thanks for all the answers,

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sound in kernel 2.6.19.1

2007-01-08 Thread gustavo halperin

Hello

I have not sound using mplayer or any player but I have the beep sound.

I was compiled kernel 2.6.19.1 almost with the same sound config as 
with the kernel-2.6.15.1, but I have not sound using the new kernel.
I get two errors on boot time (using 2.6.19.1) that wasn't in the old 
kernel-2.6.15.1, next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.19.1 boot 
file (/var/log/boot):

>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module soundcore not found.
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 23:28:18 2007: FATAL: Module snd not found.
But there modules are not exist also in the kernel-2.6.15.1 modules, but 
in some way, in the old kernel these modules are loaded successfully, 
next I attach the lines from the kernel-2.6.15.1 boot file:

>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: soundcore
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd
>   Mon Jan  8 00:47:07 2007: snd-timer

All the other thinks in a boot file are almost the same, but I get in 
the aumix application only: "Vol", "Synth", "Line", "Mic" and "CD"

without: "Mix", "Pcm", "IGaim", "OGaim" and the others.

 Thank you in advance,
  Gustavo
 

My Laptop is the Toshiba Portege R100, the sound must be ok with the 
modules "snd_inte8x0" and "snd_pcm_oss" see 
http://www.istitutocolli.org/pr100/#AEN106.


I also attach next the sound modules loaded in /proc/modules:
-
snd_usb_audio 83200 0 - Live 0xf1db5000
snd_usb_lib 17792 1 snd_usb_audio, Live 0xf1d54000
snd_ali5451 26316 0 - Live 0xf1d4c000
snd_intel8x0m 19020 0 - Live 0xf1d0d000
snd_intel8x0 34588 0 - Live 0xf1d23000
snd_mtpav 10056 0 - Live 0xf142
snd_virmidi 6080 0 - Live 0xf13f7000
snd_seq_virmidi 8064 1 snd_virmidi, Live 0xf13f4000
snd_seq_midi_event 7744 1 snd_seq_virmidi, Live 0xf13f1000
snd_dummy 11968 2 - Live 0xf13ed000
snd_ac97_codec 96164 3 snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0, Live 
0xf143f000

snd_ac97_bus 2880 1 snd_ac97_codec, Live 0xf12c9000
snd_vx_lib 35008 0 - Live 0xf1416000
snd_opl3_lib 11712 0 - Live 0xf13e9000
snd_mpu401_uart 9408 0 - Live 0xf13cf000
snd_pcm_oss 46848 0 - Live 0xf1409000
snd_mixer_oss 18048 3 snd_pcm_oss, Live 0xf13c1000
snd_seq_dummy 4484 0 - Live 0xf13be000
snd_seq 53808 3 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_dummy, Live 
0xf13fa000
snd_rawmidi 25408 4 
snd_usb_lib,snd_mtpav,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_mpu401_uart, Live 0xf13c7000
snd_seq_device 9036 4 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi, 
Live 0xf13ba000

snd_hwdep 10180 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib, Live 0xf13ae000
snd_pcm 83076 8 
snd_usb_audio,snd_ali5451,snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_dummy,snd_ac97_codec,snd_vx_lib,snd_pcm_oss, 
Live 0xf13d3000

snd_page_alloc 10952 3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13a2000
snd_timer 24580 3 snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq,snd_pcm, Live 0xf13b2000
usbcore 139460 42 
snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,safe_serial,keyspan_pda,ipaq,visor,ftdi_sio,empeg,digi_acceleport,whiteheat,belkin_sa,usbserial,sisusbvga,ftdi_elan,usbled,usblcd,uss720,usbmouse,usbkbd,usb_storage,usbhid,gspca,usblp,cdc_acm,uhci_hcd,ohci_hcd,ehci_hcd,dabusb,dsbr100,cpia2,cpia_usb,ds2490,zd1211rw,zd1201,bfusb,bpa10x,bcm203x,hci_usb,mcs7780,stir4200,irda_usb, 
Live 0xf0cbb000
firmware_class 10688 10 
ipw2100,snd_vx_lib,zd1211rw,zd1201,bt3c_cs,bfusb,bcm203x,irda_usb,pcmcia,microcode, 
Live 0xf0815000

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:40:45PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> Mark Grieveson wrote:
> > Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up connection for
> > xfce?
> 
> Try gpppon.  It is essentially a GUI wrapper around pon and poff.
> Configure PPP with pppconfig.
> 
> Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> > what group is pppd? I think you can just add yourself to the dialout
> > group.
> 
> You need to be in the "dip" group.  No need to be in "dialout".

okay, I'll buy that, but then what's dialout for? is it just for
dialing the phone (say for a voice or fax call?) as opposed to making
a ppp connection?

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Charlie writes:
> Also to allow the user to connect and disconnect # adduser  dip 

Pppconfig can take care of this.
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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up connection for
> xfce?

Try gpppon.  It is essentially a GUI wrapper around pon and poff.
Configure PPP with pppconfig.

Andrew Sackville-West writes:
> what group is pppd? I think you can just add yourself to the dialout
> group.

You need to be in the "dip" group.  No need to be in "dialout".
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Re: What's wrong with abiword in etch

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:33:00AM +0800, Ken Hu wrote:
> Dear All:
> 
> Although openoffice,org is great , I still need to use abiword because I
> have a lot of existed documents edited by abiword.
> After upgrade to etch , the abiword won't start anymore.
> (I've tried to reinstall it , but that doesn't help)
> 
> Does anyone know what's going on for abiword on etch ?
> 

Since Etch isn't stable yet, have you checked the bug reports for
abi-word?


 


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Re: sarge iptables

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 03:59:44AM +0100, Marc wrote:
> Hi there,
> my kernel (2.6.18) has hashlimit support for iptables compiled in.
> Now I try to insert a rule using hashlimit, then the following appears:
> 
> iptables v1.2.11: Couldn't load match
> `hashlimit':/lib/iptables/libipt_hashlimit.so: cannot open shared object
> file: No such file or directory
> 
> Why is it looking for a module and not using the hashlimit that is
> already compiled into the kernel... What am I doing wrong?
> 
It appears that you are either using a backports kernel or rolling your
own?  Have you updated iptables?  Are you sure that the version of
iptables in Sarge knows where the hashlimit support is?

Regards,

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sarge iptables

2007-01-08 Thread Marc
Hi there,
my kernel (2.6.18) has hashlimit support for iptables compiled in.
Now I try to insert a rule using hashlimit, then the following appears:

iptables v1.2.11: Couldn't load match
`hashlimit':/lib/iptables/libipt_hashlimit.so: cannot open shared object
file: No such file or directory

Why is it looking for a module and not using the hashlimit that is
already compiled into the kernel... What am I doing wrong?

Regards,
Marc

Anyway, why is it looking in /lib/iptables since modules are in
/lib/modules//...



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Re: What's wrong with abiword in etch

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:33:00AM +0800, Ken Hu wrote:
> Dear All:
> 
> Although openoffice,org is great , I still need to use abiword because I
> have a lot of existed documents edited by abiword.
> After upgrade to etch , the abiword won't start anymore.
> (I've tried to reinstall it , but that doesn't help)

details details details! I just installed on my sid box (still same
version as etch) and it starts right up. Try starting from a command
line and see if you get any output.

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Re: What's wrong with abiword in etch

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 10:33:00AM +0800, Ken Hu wrote:
> Dear All:
> 
> Although openoffice,org is great , I still need to use abiword because I
> have a lot of existed documents edited by abiword.
> After upgrade to etch , the abiword won't start anymore.
> (I've tried to reinstall it , but that doesn't help)
> 
> Does anyone know what's going on for abiword on etch ?
> 
An error message would make it much easier for us to help you out.

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-Roberto

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What's wrong with abiword in etch

2007-01-08 Thread Ken Hu
Dear All:

Although openoffice,org is great , I still need to use abiword because I
have a lot of existed documents edited by abiword.
After upgrade to etch , the abiword won't start anymore.
(I've tried to reinstall it , but that doesn't help)

Does anyone know what's going on for abiword on etch ?

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Re: Missing jigdo file

2007-01-08 Thread Bryce

Thanks so much, I had been looking everywhere for that.


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I got that error too, I used 
http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/

to get that file.




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Re: Updating known_hosts SSH Keys

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 09:11:28PM -0500, Grok Mogger wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I was recently connecting from one host to another via ssh, and 
> the remote host's host key had changed.  I was expecting this 
> change (I made it myself in fact), so naturally I just wanted to 
> connect anyway, despite the warning that SSH gave me, and update 
> my known_hosts file.
> 
> I could not find a graceful way to do this.  After hacking 
> around enough, I noticed that SSH told me which line of my 
> known_hosts file contained the old key.  I just removed that 
> line and voila.  But I was anticipating some pretty command or 
> command-line option for ssh that would replace the key 
> automatically.  Is there any such option?  Or does everyone out 
> there basically do what I did?
> 
What you did.  You would never want ssh to automatically replace the
known_hosts entry.  It would completely compromise the security of ssh.
You should manually chech the fingerprint.  In this case, since you made
the change, you can implicitly trust yourself that it is the correct
key.

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Updating known_hosts SSH Keys

2007-01-08 Thread Grok Mogger

Hey,

I was recently connecting from one host to another via ssh, and 
the remote host's host key had changed.  I was expecting this 
change (I made it myself in fact), so naturally I just wanted to 
connect anyway, despite the warning that SSH gave me, and update 
my known_hosts file.


I could not find a graceful way to do this.  After hacking 
around enough, I noticed that SSH told me which line of my 
known_hosts file contained the old key.  I just removed that 
line and voila.  But I was anticipating some pretty command or 
command-line option for ssh that would replace the key 
automatically.  Is there any such option?  Or does everyone out 
there basically do what I did?


Thanks,
- GM


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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Kumar Appaiah

On 09/01/07, Mark Grieveson  wrote:

I've used wvdial, but I find it only works as root.  As a regular user it 
states that it cannot access pppd, instructing me to check my permissions.  
I've checked, and regular users have read permission, with the program being 
labelled executable.  Does it need write permission?



(Assuming your modem is in /dev/ttyS1)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] ls -l /dev/ttyS1
crw-rw 1 root dialout 4, 65 Jan  9  2007 /dev/ttyS1

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~] ls -l /usr/sbin/pppd
-rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip 260920 Dec 19 17:53 /usr/sbin/pppd

Now, from what I gather from this, if you adduser  dialout, and
adduser  dip, you should be able to dial out as ordinary user.

Please confirm if this works. Also, you may need to log out and log in
again to effect the group addition.

HTH

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:37:44PM -0500, Mark Grieveson wrote:
> Hello.  Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up connection 
> for xfce?  I don't wish to use kppp, or gnome-ppp.  

I saw you on xfce list... but couldn't come up with a thing to
help. its amazing how much text affects these things.

> 
> I've used wvdial, but I find it only works as root.  As a regular user it 
> states that it cannot access pppd, instructing me to check my permissions.  
> I've checked, and regular users have read permission, with the program being 
> labelled executable.  Does it need write permission?

what group is pppd? I think you can just add yourself to the dialout
group.

hth

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Re: dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread M-L
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 12:37, Mark Grieveson sent this for all our 
perusal:
>---> Hello.  Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up
> connection for xfce?  I don't wish to use kppp, or gnome-ppp. --->
>---> I've used wvdial, but I find it only works as root.  As a regular user
> it states that it cannot access pppd, instructing me to check my
> permissions.  I've checked, and regular users have read permission, with
> the program being labelled executable.  Does it need write permission? --->
>---> Anyway, I would still prefer to find a simple, usable graphical program
> that doesn't rely on kde or gnome.  Installing kppp or gnome-ppp would be
> an excessively large install, I suspect (the programs themselves aren't
> large, but with the various dependencies they would have, I'm guessing  the
> actual install would be quite big). --->
>---> Mark
>--->
>--->

I am stuck on dialup here as well. 

It's not GUI, but I use the  command from a terminal, and gkrellm to 
watch what is happening all the time.

Install ppp and pppconfig. Then in a terminal do  Then type pon 
into a root terminal, and you are connected.

Also to allow the user to connect and disconnect # adduser  dip You 
might have to log out to make this work the first time.

If you want to monitor this connection bring up gkrellm and it should have 
your ppp connection covered.

Set gkrellm as sticky so it is on all desktops and make it to remain on top of 
all windows and you can watch what is going on all the time.

Hope that helps.
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dial up connection

2007-01-08 Thread Mark Grieveson
Hello.  Is there a graphical application for achieving a dial-up connection for 
xfce?  I don't wish to use kppp, or gnome-ppp.  

I've used wvdial, but I find it only works as root.  As a regular user it 
states that it cannot access pppd, instructing me to check my permissions.  
I've checked, and regular users have read permission, with the program being 
labelled executable.  Does it need write permission?

Anyway, I would still prefer to find a simple, usable graphical program that 
doesn't rely on kde or gnome.  Installing kppp or gnome-ppp would be an 
excessively large install, I suspect (the programs themselves aren't large, but 
with the various dependencies they would have, I'm guessing  the actual install 
would be quite big).

Mark


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RBL lookup errors

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I've just started seeing these messages in my logs:

Jan  8 17:46:42 bogota postfix/smtpd[19538]: warning: 
31.162.103.70.relays.ordb.org: RBL lookup error: Host or domain name not found. 
Name service error for name=31.162.103.70.relays.ordb.org type=A: Host not 
found, try again

Did something happen that I didn't hear about?

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Re: totem media player...

2007-01-08 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 12:38:11AM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 
> I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  Excuse 
> my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?
> 
> It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can get 
> the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real 
> player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it can't 
> read the file type and so you need another plug in.
> 
> What plug in might this be?
> 
> In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for 
> linux but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I 
> should try to use them instead.

Try VLC the VideoLan client.  There's a plugin for mozilla-type browsers
as well.  Both are standard debian packages.  Look closely at all the
suggests and recommends.

Good luck.

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totem media player...

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Fothergill

Dear folks,

I have been trying to watch a video on the following site:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsnight

If you go on there and click on a video clip you get a little firefox AV 
window.  The black box and some boxes with arrows appear to play the clip 
but the clip refuses to start.


Javascipt etc is enabled.  I don't think I have a kill the pop ups off 
setting in the browser that could mess things up


I also tried firing up totem movie player to see if it would help.  Excuse 
my ignorance but is it the free alternative to real player?


It can't seem to find the real player files on the web page.  You can get 
the web page to look for a Windows media player file instead of a real 
player format file.  If you do this then totem movie player says it can't 
read the file type and so you need another plug in.


What plug in might this be?

In my earlier posting I had thought to try to download real player for linux 
but if other free alternatives are actually better then perhaps I should try 
to use them instead.


Comments appreciated.

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Encrypted file systems

2007-01-08 Thread Francis Healy
I currently use a Windows XP/Linux dual boot laptop.  My company will likely 
begin to require encryption on laptop systems.  I have built a few etch systems 
and noticed that it offers encryption as an option in the setup.  My company 
uses PGP for encryption on Windows laptops.  Has anyone tried disk encryption 
on a dual boot setup?  

Re: getting realplayer to work in firefox...

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:57:22PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote:
> Dear folks,
> 
> I downloaded a file RealPlayer10GOLD.bin  from the real player site that I 
> think is a plug in for Firefox that would let me watch some movies with 
> sound.
> 
> I did chmod a+x on the file.
> 
> rwxr-xr-x  1 mikef mikef  5802563 2007-01-09 11:32 RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
> 
> I am not exactly sure how to install it into firefox.
> 
> I tried running it.
> 
> spc1-burn4-0-0-cust262:/home/mikef#  /home/mikef/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
> /home/mikef/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libstdc+ +.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Being root doesn't help.
> 
> Suggestions welcome.
> 
> Michael Fothergill
> 
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Add debian-multimedia.org [Christian Marillat's site] to your apt-get 
sources list - get Realplayer from there. One reason Debian proper 
dropped it was that Debian couldn't modify it. Among the others were 
rampant 32 bit-ness and that it depended on the obsolete libstdc

That's what you get for commercial software, I suppose.

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Re: Etch: aide gives "onexit unknown error"

2007-01-08 Thread David Clymer
On Sun, 2007-01-07 at 12:07 +, Matthijs van Aalten wrote:
> (apologies if this turns out to be a HTML-message - I haven't found an
> option to switch to plain text in windows live mail)
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I've recently installed Etch on my server, including package 'aide'.
> The daily cron job gives the following error:
> 
> /etc/cron.daily/aide: line 117: onexit: command not found
> /etc/cron.daily/aide: line 61: onexit: command not found
> run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/aide exited with return code 127
> 
> My scripting capabilities are limited, but according to
> /etc/cron.daily/aide, function 'onexit' is defined on line 135.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong or should I report this as a bug to the
> aide maintainers?

Unless you wrote the cron script yourself, you should probably report
the bug.

If /etc/cron.daily/aide is a bash script (starts with "#! /bin/bash"),
and onexit is being called on lines 61 or 117 and being defined on 135,
it is definitely an error in the script itself and nothing you are
doing.

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getting realplayer to work in firefox...

2007-01-08 Thread Michael Fothergill

Dear folks,

I downloaded a file RealPlayer10GOLD.bin  from the real player site that I 
think is a plug in for Firefox that would let me watch some movies with 
sound.


I did chmod a+x on the file.

rwxr-xr-x  1 mikef mikef  5802563 2007-01-09 11:32 RealPlayer10GOLD.bin

I am not exactly sure how to install it into firefox.

I tried running it.

spc1-burn4-0-0-cust262:/home/mikef#  /home/mikef/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin
/home/mikef/RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: error while loading shared libraries: 
libstdc+ +.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Being root doesn't help.

Suggestions welcome.

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Re: netfilter, iptable ...

2007-01-08 Thread David Clymer
On Mon, 2007-01-08 at 22:52 +0100, Gerard Robin wrote:
> Hello,
> I have a script which contains iptables's commands and which works fine
> as firewall, but I encounter a problem with the log:
> 
> in /var/log/kern.log I get a tone of lines of this type:
> 
> Jan  8 18:25:25 nameofmybox kernel: Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= 
> MAC=00:e:4c:8:3:1:00:07:cb:31:9c:71:08:00 SRC= A.B.C.D DST=E.F.G.H LEN=64 
> TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=41 ID=57486 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3910 DPT=445 WINDOW=53760 
> RES=0x00 SYN URGP=16 
> 
> ( A.B.C.D and E.F.G.H are some addresses ... )
> 
> When I am in command line these lines are displayed continously and it is 
> impossible to work. (the problem doesn't happen on xwindow on an xterm )
> 
> The problem stops if I comment four lines of the script.
> the four lines:
> 
> # iptables -A LSI -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m limit 
> --limit 1/sec -j LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6 
> 
> # iptables -A LSI -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK RST -m limit 
> --limit 1/sec -j LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6
> 
> # iptables -A LSI -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j LOG 
> --log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6
> 
> # iptables -A LSI -m limit --limit 5/sec -j LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " 
> --log-level 6
> 
> ( LSI is a chain created by a user)
> however, I think that these lines give interesting informations and I
> would like to know how to keep them, but without that my file kern.log
> grows inordinately.
> 
> Thank in advance to help me to change this four lines .
> 
> My system is simple:
> one box
> one modem "freebox" it's the modem provided by my ISP free.fr
> one ethernet network card
> ifconfig gives : eth0, lo, sit0
> uname -r : 2.6.18-3-486 
> 

you could keep the rules and do:

# dmesg -n 1

in order to prevent the output from being printed to the terminal (man
dmesg).

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RE: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread James Stevenson
> > > useful in this environment?
> > Many folks like that one. I use shorewall. You can always block outgoing
> > ports that you dont use. If you dont run an ftp server, block port 20
> > and 21, etc.
> >
> That is why I really like the "default deny" mentality.  Start by
> blocking all incoming and outgoing new connections.  Allow only incoming
> connections for services that you know you are running.  Allow only
> outbound connections for things you know you want to do.  If you only
> browse the web and use ssh, then only allow those ports.  Many badware
> applications use port 80 or port 443, since those are very rarely
> blocked.  For bonus points, block those and setup and authenticating
> proxy.

The default deny policy can also open up a security hole on its own.
Be aware that the default rate limited reject policy can be better.

Even for blocking 80 / 443 this is why some places use proxy's cause you
block everything else but allow the proxy. It can be even more secure to use
a transparent proxy because something on port 80 is forced to talk http
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Re: set up Etch to unicode

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:19:51PM +0100, csanyipal wrote:
> 
> OK I installed utf8-migration-tool, but how can I use it?
> 
> No man page is here. Try to locate utf-8, but can't find any 
> utf8-migration-tool.
> 
If you run `dpkg -L utf8-migration-tool |grep bin`, it will tell you
what binary or executable files are in the package.

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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:51:38PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 01:13:01PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > 
> > My LAN is protected by a machine running SmoothWall Express 2.0,
> > acting as a firewall and router.  Would an internal firewall package be
> > useful in this environment?
> Many folks like that one. I use shorewall. You can always block outgoing
> ports that you dont use. If you dont run an ftp server, block port 20
> and 21, etc.
> 
That is why I really like the "default deny" mentality.  Start by
blocking all incoming and outgoing new connections.  Allow only incoming
connections for services that you know you are running.  Allow only
outbound connections for things you know you want to do.  If you only
browse the web and use ssh, then only allow those ports.  Many badware
applications use port 80 or port 443, since those are very rarely
blocked.  For bonus points, block those and setup and authenticating
proxy.

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RE: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread James Stevenson
> If I understand the matter correctly, a firewall can protect only
> against incoming messages, and is useless against spyware which
> "phones home" or zombie-ware which spews email spam.

Not totally correct. A firewall is only as good as the traffic that is
permitted to flow across it. If you want to block something from phoning
home then yes you can block outbound traffic as well.

Typically firewalls are as good as the person who set them up and what is
permitted to flow across the firewall.





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Re: PPRacer and video card problem

2007-01-08 Thread Marty

David Shultz wrote:

On 1/7/07, Marty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I see where the Display Data Channel (or DDC protocol, which IDs your
monitor) module (ddc) is loaded, but none of the output. Maybe you
are missing the I2C drivers for your motherboard or the graphics card
drivers, both of which are required. I would expect to get away with
generic monitor settings with a CRT, but probably not with non-CRT
display.


Thanks for detecting that. Sorry for my ignorance but how do i load
i2c driver


I don't know how you do it, but first I look at the motherboard to see which I2C 
chip it uses and then compile the driver into the kernel.  If I used modules I 
would probably just load them all up and see which one works.


 and also how to detect my monitor?




You don't.  The DDC protocol exists specifically to automate monitor detection.


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RE: Apache2 is serving php files it does not own

2007-01-08 Thread Virgil E. Alderson

Ok when you mentioned

>Do you use special php modules that cache the compiled scripts?

I do, so I removed eaccelerator from loading and that solved the problem. 
Thanks, I will recompile and reinstall eaccelerator and will post on their
forums to try to figure out why it behaved like that.
Thanks again.

Virgil

-Original Message-
From: Stefan Fritsch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 5:13 PM
To: Virgil E. Alderson
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Apache2 is serving php files it does not own


On Monday 08 January 2007 22:42, Virgil E. Alderson wrote:
> I had already looked into my cache, and that is not it. as a test I 
> have put a rule in my directory entry so that it will only allow to 
> serve test.php on localhost and that stops it from showing it on a 
> external computer. So its not the cache, and I do not run a proxy.

I can't quite believe that. If you do a request for a file with mode 
000, does it appear in the access log? Do you use special php modules 
that cache the compiled scripts? Do you use fastcgi?

If the answers are yes, no, no, respectively, you can try:

/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
strace -f -o /tmp/strace.out /etc/init.d/apache2 start

do a single request, then from a different shell (replace test.php in 
the second line with the script you requested):

/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
egrep 'open.*test.php|set.*uid' /tmp/strace.out

There should now be a "... open(.../test.php") = ..." line near the 
bottom. What is it exactly? What is the number ## in the setuid32(##) 
lines?

Cheers,
Stefan


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Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 06:40:51PM +0100, Tom wrote:
> 
> Isn't PHP's greatest strength its online-ness and user comments? Why
> not use it that way, there's plenty of mirrors, and browsers usually
> have caching mechanisms. :)
> 
Yes.  However, there are times when it is nice to be able to have a copy
of the documentation on the local machine.  Like when Internet access is
unavailable.

> If that's not enough, they offer documentation for offline use at [1].
> 
Personally, I prefer to use the Debian packaged documentation whenever
possible, since it usually more closely matches the version included in
Debian.  If upstream is very active with documentation, like PHP or
PostgreSQL, then they keep the online docs very up to date.  Thus, they
may not exactly match what is installed if you are using the Debian
packages.

Regards,

-Roberto

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pam_umask.so and scp have serious problems (can't handle shared folder)

2007-01-08 Thread Peter Baumann
Hi,

I have serious problem setting up a shared folder "/home/shared" for my
whole family to store pictures etc.

After reading http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktopHowTo I managed to put
the (hopefully) correct config option in /etc/pam.d/common-session

  amd700:/etc/pam.d# egrep -v '^#.*' /etc/pam.d/common-session
  session requiredpam_unix.so
  session optionalpam_umask.so umask=002

This works for all normal a normal login on console. I get

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ umask
  0002

Obviously, creating new files in /home/shared

  amd700:/home# ls -ald /home/shared/
  drwxrws--- 2 root family 4096 2007-01-08 21:05 /home/shared/

  amd700:/home$ cd /home/shared/
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shared$ touch test
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shared$ ls -al
  insgesamt 8
  drwxrws---  2 root  family 4096 2007-01-08 21:29 .
  drwxr-xr-x 10 root  root   4096 2007-01-08 20:19 ..
  -rw-rw-r--  1 peter family0 2007-01-08 21:29 test

works as expected.

Copying a file via scp does not!!!

  scp test2 amd700:/home/shared
  [...]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/shared$ ls -al
  insgesamt 12
  drwxrws---  2 root  family 4096 2007-01-08 21:34 .
  drwxr-xr-x 10 root  root   4096 2007-01-08 20:19 ..
  -rw-rw-r--  1 peter family0 2007-01-08 21:29 test
  -rw-r-  1 peter family   70 2007-01-08 21:34 test2

Can someone please point me to the right direction what's wrong?

Greetings,
  Peter Baumann


This is a freshly installed Debian Etch.

xp:~$ ssh amd700 umask
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password:
0002

amd700:/etc/pam.d# grep common-session /etc/pam.d/ssh
@include common-session


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Re: Debian unstable DVD-s

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 05:46:56PM +0100, Yvan wrote:
> 
> I know about jigdo, I used it last year, but now whoever was
> responsible for creating .jigdo and .template files for unstable / sid
> stopped updating files:
> 
> ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/jigdo/
> 

These were never official in any sense. At this point, you might be 
better to move to "testing/Etch" which is about to become stable.

Unstable changes radically and the pace of software change may mean
many MB per night: it's not economic to build Unstable DVD's even 
weekly. 

Testing is currently settling down immediately prior to release : 
once it's released, the pace of updates will be slow and 
manageable.

Most of what you need is on the first DVD of any Debian set - therefore 
all you need is a 4.4GB download.

> I found some German sites offering Debian sid DVD-s but for ~$35. So it
> is possible to get sid, and I am just asking here if anyone knows how
> to do that.
> 

All the best,

Andy


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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread John Hasler
Angelo Bertolli writes:
> 2) If you have a hash of all the files (like tripwire provides) on some
>media that was NOT compromised, you can check those.

You must also boot from uncompromised media.
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Re: set up Etch to unicode

2007-01-08 Thread csanyipal
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 03:54:26PM -0500, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:31:35PM +0100, csanyipal wrote:

> > I upgraded the system from Sarge to Etch.
> > 
> > Now, I want to setup the X Window system to unicode.
> > 
> > How can I do that?
> > 
> > There on Etch isn't there the localeconf package.

> This[0] may be of some help.

> [0] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/utf8-migration-tool

OK I installed utf8-migration-tool, but how can I use it?

No man page is here. Try to locate utf-8, but can't find any 
utf8-migration-tool.

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Re: Apache2 is serving php files it does not own

2007-01-08 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Monday 08 January 2007 22:42, Virgil E. Alderson wrote:
> I had already looked into my cache, and that is not it. as a test I
> have put a rule in my directory entry so that it will only allow to
> serve test.php on localhost and that stops it from showing it on a
> external computer. So its not the cache, and I do not run a proxy.

I can't quite believe that. If you do a request for a file with mode 
000, does it appear in the access log? Do you use special php modules 
that cache the compiled scripts? Do you use fastcgi?

If the answers are yes, no, no, respectively, you can try:

/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
strace -f -o /tmp/strace.out /etc/init.d/apache2 start

do a single request, then from a different shell (replace test.php in 
the second line with the script you requested):

/etc/init.d/apache2 stop
egrep 'open.*test.php|set.*uid' /tmp/strace.out

There should now be a "... open(.../test.php") = ..." line near the 
bottom. What is it exactly? What is the number ## in the setuid32(##) 
lines?

Cheers,
Stefan


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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Håkon Alstadheim

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:

On Monday 08 January 2007 14:13, Russell L. Harris wrote:

  

So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?




You can use senderbase statistics to see if there is a huge increase in email 
activity from the IP address under consideration.


For example, if you visit

http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=204.13.69.220

It says that on average the machine sends 10^2.9 emails per day. In the last 
30 days, it sent 10^3.6 emails per day. Last day (ie yesterday) it sent 
10^4.9 emails. The trend clearly indiciates that there has been an increase 
in email activity which might correlate with the machine being a zombie.


This is not a fool proof test. But I have seen people being referred to this 
website on spamcop forums, news groups.


  
Also check dshield to see if your machine has tried to get in anywhere. 
Go to http://www.dshield.org/ipinfo.html?ip=.


Some entries are benign noise, but if you see several thousand hits on 
port 22, you are probably owned.



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Text on printed pages truncated

2007-01-08 Thread Ken Heard
Whenever I print text, html or pdf files from either Konqueror or 
Firefox, the text starts so close to the top of each page that the first 
line either does not get printed, or only part of it is printed.  Is 
there a way to adjust the printing to have the text start say 8-10 mm 
further down the page?


I did find in various printer preference windows an option to vary 
printer margins.  However changing these margins has no effect.  I have 
looked everywhere I can think of for guidance in solving this problem 
but could find nothing relevant.


I am using CUPS 1.1.23-10sarge printing through a print server to an HP 
LaserJet II-P.


Ken Heard
Toronto, Canada


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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 07:15:32PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
> >  
> >
> I tried camE, gqcam and camstream. The dark background thing is
> widespread. No single software did ok with the cam. So weird, the camera
> lights on and off when some program accesses it. But no image.
> Well, the issue is open...

sorry. without sitting at the machine and seeing what its doing, I'm
out of ideas. good luck

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Root permissions in gnome with etch

2007-01-08 Thread Virgil E. Alderson
Whenever I use synaptic or any other package that requires root access
in Gnome, instead of asking me for the password I get a windows that says
"Granted permissions without asking for password"
the '' program was started with the privileges of the root user without
the need to ask for a password, due to your system's authentication setup.

How can I disable this? I have looked at sudoers file and there are no
entries.


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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Angelo Bertolli

Russell L. Harris wrote:

Yesterday I read another article bemoaning the large number of Window$
machines which have been commandeered remotely and turned into
spam-spewing zombies.

If I understand the matter correctly, a firewall can protect only
against incoming messages, and is useless against spyware which
"phones home" or zombie-ware which spews email spam.

So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?  


My LAN is protected by a machine running SmoothWall Express 2.0,
acting as a firewall and router.  Would an internal firewall package be
useful in this environment?
  

As someone mentioned Linux already has an internal firewall.

Depending on the state of your machine, once there is a root compromise, 
there is only one or two sure-fire ways to see if you're a zombie.


1) Set up a brand new intermediate machine that captures all network 
traffic from the machine you're questioning and see what it's doing.


2) If  you have a hash of all the files (like tripwire provides) on some 
media that was NOT compromised, you can check those.




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Re: ThinkPads

2007-01-08 Thread Owen Heisler

On 1/8/07, Andrew McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 16:46 -0600, Owen Heisler wrote:
> Here's what seems to be available for video:
> Integrated Intel 945GM
> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950
> ATI Mobility Radeon X1300 64MB
> ATI Mobility Fire GL V5200 256MB
> ATI Mobility Fire GL V5250 256MB

Since Intel employed Keith Packard a couple of years ago the support for
Intel graphics chipsets has improved a remarkable amount.  Now if only
ATI or NVidia could employ someone of his calibre...

From here: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon it seems that the
ATI chipsets are supported by FOSS drivers (with 3D acceleration) up to
the Radeon X850.  X1300 and above only support 2D graphics at this
point, unless you use the proprietary drivers from ATI.  My experience
with the ATI drivers is that they have improved a lot over the last
couple of years, and the installation is certainly much better.  The
downloadable drivers will let you create a Debian package to install
from, though you have to pass it a magic command-line switch to do so.


The fglrx-driver package in Debian is the proprietary one, right?
So, is the V5200 or V5250 supported by the xorg driver?


Personally I have a Radeon X600, so am just as happy to use the FOSS
drivers nowadays.

In the future I will probably be looking for Intel based graphics in my
next laptop because of the cool stuff I have seen Keith demonstrating
and talking about, such as seamless desktop expansion when you plug in a
second monitor.


> >From what I see on thinkwiki.org, none of the three ATI chipsets
> listed here "just work", but the Intel ones do, without any
> proprietary drivers.  The two Intel ones are supported by the i810
> drivers.
>
> UltraBay Enhanced:
> It seems that I can use a CD/DVD drive in this bay or a regular hard
> drive.  So I should be able to get a "Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay
> Adapter" and a hard drive from Newegg and have a second hard drive
> ready to go.  The bay supports hot-swapping; will I be able to remove
> the hard drive or CD/DVD drive with Debian running?

Well, maybe.  I have successfully swapped the HD for the DVD, and
vice-versa, but it hasn't always worked for me.  Other things too, like
whether DMA is enabled on the swapped in device and stuff has not always
worked for me.

Mind you, I haven't checked this since about 2.6.14 or so - things may
have improved.


According to the other reply, it works better with 2.6.19.

Thanks for the information.


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Re: apt-get update failing at 99%

2007-01-08 Thread Joey Hess
Tom Allison wrote:
> I am running into this repeatedly on one machine in particular.
> 
> I don't have a memory problem (apt::cache or hardware).
> I've been able to run apt-get update on other boxes in the same network 
> and it works OK.  But this keeps stopping at 99% and appears to hang.

There was a bug in apt versions before 0.6.46.4 that could cause it to
hang in update in some situations. Do you have a current version?

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Re: ThinkPads

2007-01-08 Thread Owen Heisler

On 1/5/07, Florian Reitmeir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

there is a thinkpad ML .. your question would get there more answers..

At thinkwiki.org?  I don't see a Debian ThinkPad list...


On Don, 04 Jän 2007, Owen Heisler wrote:
> Video acceleration:
> All I can find is ATI or Intel video chipsets...  but I've heard say
> that ATI (3D acceleration) is a pain to get working.
thats true, but not only DRI is a show stopper, power management is also..


Uh, so maybe if ATI would work I would be better off to go with it,
otherwise Intel.


> I've had some
> trouble myself for older cards (mine was Radeon 7200, not supported at
> all, although it did work at one point on FC5), but do some of the
> cards work without problems?
All cards up to ATI 9600 should work. But for cards from 9200->9600 the free
driver don't support power management, so they really get hot...


Okay


> The Intel ones provide 3D acceleration,
> but what is the difference in performance between a 128MB nvidia card
> and an Intel integrated chipset that can share ~200MB of the regular
> memory?  If the Intel chipsets provide decent 3D acceleration, I may
> as well go with it.  Here's what seems to be available for video:
> Integrated Intel 945GM

the intel isn't the fastest, its about factor 10 in speed.. so for 3D games
the intel card is suited but not for the highend ones.


Fine


> >From what I see on thinkwiki.org, none of the three ATI chipsets
> listed here "just work", but the Intel ones do, without any
> proprietary drivers.  The two Intel ones are supported by the i810
> drivers.

thats true.


Okay


> UltraBay Enhanced:
> It seems that I can use a CD/DVD drive in this bay or a regular hard
> drive.  So I should be able to get a "Serial ATA Hard Drive Bay
> Adapter" and a hard drive from Newegg and have a second hard drive
> ready to go.  The bay supports hot-swapping; will I be able to remove
> the hard drive or CD/DVD drive with Debian running?

yes. thats a kernel feature, so if you use a 2.6.19 or newer it will just
work.


Okay

Thanks for the information!



Re: Apache2 is serving php files it does not own

2007-01-08 Thread Virgil E. Alderson
I had already looked into my cache, and that is not it. as a test I have
put a rule in my directory entry so that it will only allow to serve
test.php on localhost and that stops it from showing it on a external
computer. So its not the cache, and I do not run a proxy.

Virgil

Stefan Fritsch wrote:
> debian-apache is not a support list, CCing to debian-user
>
> On Monday 08 January 2007 19:50, Virgil E. Alderson wrote:
>   
>> After an update apache2 all of a sudden is serving php files it
>> does not own or have rights to read or write to. Up to this point i
>> have had my files owned by user: root and group: www-data, and all
>> i had to do was remove group rw rights on the file for apache2 not
>> to serve the php file. But all of sudden apache is serving  the
>> file regardles of who owns it and with 000 permissions. I tried a
>> test with a .png file in the same directory and that works fine,
>> removing -r from its group www-data denies access to it. Doing a ps
>> -ef shows that apache is running as www-data, i also consoled in as
>> www-data and tried to cat the php file and I do get denied as
>> expected. Any ideas? I am using etch and apache 2 with php5
>> 
>
> Maybe the pages are still cached in your browser or your proxy. Try 
> reloading / clearing the cache / disabling the proxy.
>
> Cheers,
> Stefan
>   


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netfilter, iptable ...

2007-01-08 Thread Gerard Robin

Hello,
I have a script which contains iptables's commands and which works fine
as firewall, but I encounter a problem with the log:

in /var/log/kern.log I get a tone of lines of this type:

Jan  8 18:25:25 nameofmybox kernel: Inbound IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:e:4c:8:3:1:00:07:cb:31:9c:71:08:00 SRC= A.B.C.D DST=E.F.G.H LEN=64 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=41 ID=57486 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=3910 DPT=445 WINDOW=53760 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=16 


( A.B.C.D and E.F.G.H are some addresses ... )

When I am in command line these lines are displayed continously and it is 
impossible to work. (the problem doesn't happen on xwindow on an xterm )


The problem stops if I comment four lines of the script.
the four lines:

# iptables -A LSI -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK SYN -m limit --limit 1/sec -j LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6 


# iptables -A LSI -p tcp -m tcp --tcp-flags FIN,SYN,RST,ACK RST -m limit --limit 1/sec -j 
LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6

# iptables -A LSI -p icmp -m icmp --icmp-type 8 -m limit --limit 1/sec -j LOG 
--log-prefix "Inbound " --log-level 6

# iptables -A LSI -m limit --limit 5/sec -j LOG --log-prefix "Inbound " 
--log-level 6

( LSI is a chain created by a user)
however, I think that these lines give interesting informations and I
would like to know how to keep them, but without that my file kern.log
grows inordinately.

Thank in advance to help me to change this four lines .

My system is simple:
one box
one modem "freebox" it's the modem provided by my ISP free.fr
one ethernet network card
ifconfig gives : eth0, lo, sit0
uname -r : 2.6.18-3-486 

- 
Gérard




Re: Apache2 is serving php files it does not own

2007-01-08 Thread Stefan Fritsch
debian-apache is not a support list, CCing to debian-user

On Monday 08 January 2007 19:50, Virgil E. Alderson wrote:
> After an update apache2 all of a sudden is serving php files it
> does not own or have rights to read or write to. Up to this point i
> have had my files owned by user: root and group: www-data, and all
> i had to do was remove group rw rights on the file for apache2 not
> to serve the php file. But all of sudden apache is serving  the
> file regardles of who owns it and with 000 permissions. I tried a
> test with a .png file in the same directory and that works fine,
> removing -r from its group www-data denies access to it. Doing a ps
> -ef shows that apache is running as www-data, i also consoled in as
> www-data and tried to cat the php file and I do get denied as
> expected. Any ideas? I am using etch and apache 2 with php5

Maybe the pages are still cached in your browser or your proxy. Try 
reloading / clearing the cache / disabling the proxy.

Cheers,
Stefan


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Re: [OT: of interest only to new Gmail users] Re: test message

2007-01-08 Thread sdpatt2
on Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 07:18:27PM +0200 Andrei Popescu mumbled:
 
> A more primitive hack is to configure your MUA to save outgoing mail to
> the same folder. This way you can still follow the thread correctly,
> but you have to check in the archives if your message reached the list.
> 
Nah.  If gmail has a problem, they'll send you a notice that the mail
wasn't delivered, so no real need to go back and call up the archive.

cheers.


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Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

2007-01-08 Thread Bruno Buys
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 07:35:12PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>>>  
>>>
Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote:
>  
>
>>compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe
>>inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thing is, accessing
>>the camera causes the whole system to freeze. Some tutorials suggest its
>>a gcc version problem between the kernel gcc and the driver gcc.
>>Relevant modules loaded are:
>>spca5xx
>>videodev
>>v4l1-compat
>>v4l2-common
>>usbcore
>>
>>
>>
>I don't know much, but how are you accessing the camera? what if you
>do a 
>
>cat /dev/video[0] > testvid
>
>does that cause a freeze?
>
>if not, can you play that file in mplayer or xine or whatever?
>
>this method sometimes works with tuner cards for example just to see
>if the thing is working. I just tried it with my webcam and it didn't
>really work, in that I got no playable video (probably due to
>compression), but at least it shows that there is info coming from the
>camera. 
>
>  
>
>>Other people seem to be using this webcam model quite successfully, with
>>various distros, so I believe its some troubleshootable thing which I am
>>missing badly.
>>Someone help?
>>
>>
>>
>I think that you can get spca5xx binaries from debian, its the gspca
>that needs compiling... at least in sid its spca5xx-modules-
>
>  
>
Hi andrew,
I tested the camera with the utility from the driver author, spcaview
and spcagui. Cat'ing /dev/video1 (video0 is a bttv card) froze the
machine just the same.

So, the problem is with the driver?


>>>sounds like it. using cat pretty much eliminates everything but the
>>>drivers from the chain. but maybe you are conflicting with the bttv
>>>card? can you pull the tv card and try it? maybe you have conflicting
>>>interrupts? as I said before, have you tried the binary modules from
>>>debian ? 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>I upgraded the machine to etch, so now its 2.6.18-3-k7. Before that I
>>did try removing the bttv card, but no difference. Actually, I could set
>>those utilities to open both the webcam and the bttv card, doing '-d
>>/dev/video[1,2]'. The bttv was ok (no freeze), but the cam froze.
>>Also, I received feedback from Michel Xhaard, the author of the driver,
>>and following his advice, I upgraded to the new gspcav1 driver. Now the
>>machine doesn't freeze anymore. I seem to be moving forward, ;). But
>>spcagui and spcaview now open a window without any image. All I get is a
>>dark background.
>>So, I 'm stuck in this point.
>>
>>
>>
>
>I've not used either program so you're on your own there.
>
>  
>
>>What I already did was:
>>- Test the webcam in a virtual win in the same machine: test ok.
>>
>>
>>
>
>what do you mean by this? 
>
>  
>
>>- Tried with both 'using frame buffer' option from xorg conf and 'not
>>using frame buffer'. (This is because when quitting, spcagui print
>>'Unmapping frame buffer' and 'freeing frame buffer' to the console. Test
>>yield no difference.
>>
>>I am using the nvidia 3D binary driver, if it makes any difference. And
>>now the bttv card is installed.
>>
>>
>
>don't think it matters
>
>  
>
>>I was told to upgrade to 2.6.19, but no further explanation. So, it
>>remains to be seen. Sounds reasonable?
>>
>>
>>
>
>I'm running my camera on debian sid binary kernel (2.6.18-3 I think).
>
>  
>
>>Do you have any idea whats going on?
>>
>>
>>
>nope. ;-)
>
>why don't you try one of the other tools to view it before you start
>heading off on tangents. I've had success with camstream and gqcam. In
>one, if not both of them (not at my machine right now), you have to
>close the camera window and re-open a new one to get an image. worth a
>shot. another you could try is motion. its strictly cli, but will
>generate a whole mess of jpg's and avi's when you move in front of the
>camera.
>
>A
>  
>
I tried camE, gqcam and camstream. The dark background thing is
widespread. No single software did ok with the cam. So weird, the camera
lights on and off when some program accesses it. But no image.
Well, the issue is open...


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Re: set up Etch to unicode

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 08:31:35PM +0100, csanyipal wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> I upgraded the system from Sarge to Etch.
> 
> Now, I want to setup the X Window system to unicode.
> 
> How can I do that?
> 
> There on Etch isn't there the localeconf package.
> 
> 
> Any advices will be appreciated!
> 
> -- 
Hi Paul,
This[0] may be of some help.
Cheers,
Kev
[0] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/utf8-migration-tool
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Re: installation

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 11:24:33AM -0800, Jerry Hahs wrote:
> somewhere in the last week + saw that I was to notify if the OS had been 
> installed - YES it is operating still have some hdwe tuning - was not 
> easy; probably 10 times on 2 different machines - thanks
> if this is not the place to notify pls fwd or send me the address
> 
Hi Jerry,
you can install the 'installation-report' package[0] and use this or
go to here[1] for a web page about it.
This list is for users of Debian to ask question. This can include
installation and useage questions.
Cheers,
Kev
[0] http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/installation-report
[1] http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s03.html#submit-bug
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Re: truncated output

2007-01-08 Thread celejar

On 1/8/07, Mathias Brodala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello.

ccostin, 08.01.2007 16:31:
> dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* command show
>
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
> uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name  Version   Description
> 
+++-=-=-==
>
> pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
> description available)
> pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
> description available)
>
> truncating names of packages from output list.

Either set COLUMNS:

$ COLUMS=200 dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*

Or use cat:

$ dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* | cat


Regards, Mathias


Also try 'dpkg-query -W 'linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*'

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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Monday 08 January 2007 14:13, Russell L. Harris wrote:

> So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
> buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
> has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
> simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?
>

You can use senderbase statistics to see if there is a huge increase in email 
activity from the IP address under consideration.

For example, if you visit

http://www.senderbase.org/search?searchString=204.13.69.220

It says that on average the machine sends 10^2.9 emails per day. In the last 
30 days, it sent 10^3.6 emails per day. Last day (ie yesterday) it sent 
10^4.9 emails. The trend clearly indiciates that there has been an increase 
in email activity which might correlate with the machine being a zombie.

This is not a fool proof test. But I have seen people being referred to this 
website on spamcop forums, news groups.

hth
raju

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Shared memory error

2007-01-08 Thread ccostin

What's wrong with SHM which has 0x key, shmid 20217856 ? Why
can't be removed ?

#ipcs  -m

-- Shared Memory Segments 
keyshmid  owner  perms  bytes  nattch status
0x 20217856   user1   66616 3  dest
0x 32769  root  600655360 2
0x 98306   user600393216 2  dest
0x 524291 user 600393216 2  dest
0x 557060 user600393216 2  dest
0x 589829 user600393216 2  dest
0x 622598 user600393216 2  dest
0x 262151 user600393216 2  dest
0x 294920 user600393216 2  dest
0x 327689 user600393216 2  dest
0x 360458 user600393216 2  dest
0x 12746767  user600393216 2  dest
#
#ipcrm -M "0x"
#ipcrm: illegal key (0x)
#ipcs  -m "20217856"
#
#ipcs -m
-- Shared Memory Segments 
keyshmid  owner  perms  bytes  nattch status
0x 20217856   user1   66616 3  dest
0x 32769  root  600655360 2
0x 98306   user600393216 2  dest
0x 524291 user 600393216 2  dest
0x 557060 user600393216 2  dest
0x 589829 user600393216 2  dest
0x 622598 user600393216 2  dest
0x 262151 user600393216 2  dest
0x 294920 user600393216 2  dest
0x 327689 user600393216 2  dest
0x 360458 user600393216 2  dest
0x 12746767  user600393216 2  dest
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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 01:13:01PM -0600, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Yesterday I read another article bemoaning the large number of Window$
> machines which have been commandeered remotely and turned into
> spam-spewing zombies.
> 
> If I understand the matter correctly, a firewall can protect only
> against incoming messages, and is useless against spyware which
> "phones home" or zombie-ware which spews email spam.
Hi R,
iptables can filter both incomming and outgoing packets. Although most
folks focus on the outgoing one.
> 
> So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
> buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
> has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
> simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?  
there are 'root kit' that can look for them on your machine. Another way
is packages that check for 'new' files like aide. If a machine is
'rooted', the kit replaces tools like 'ps', 'ls', top', etc. so that you
can not easily know there is a problem and may setup someone thing like
an irc server or ssh on an odd port.
> 
> My LAN is protected by a machine running SmoothWall Express 2.0,
> acting as a firewall and router.  Would an internal firewall package be
> useful in this environment?
Many folks like that one. I use shorewall. You can always block outgoing
ports that you dont use. If you dont run an ftp server, block port 20
and 21, etc.
Kev
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set up Etch to unicode

2007-01-08 Thread csanyipal
Hello!

I upgraded the system from Sarge to Etch.

Now, I want to setup the X Window system to unicode.

How can I do that?

There on Etch isn't there the localeconf package.


Any advices will be appreciated!

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Re: How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Giuseppe Marinelli

Russell L. Harris wrote:

Yesterday I read another article bemoaning the large number of Window$
machines which have been commandeered remotely and turned into
spam-spewing zombies.

If I understand the matter correctly, a firewall can protect only
against incoming messages, and is useless against spyware which
"phones home" or zombie-ware which spews email spam.

So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?  


My LAN is protected by a machine running SmoothWall Express 2.0,
acting as a firewall and router.  Would an internal firewall package be
useful in this environment?

RLH
Thanks to this list I recently learned of two useful utilities, namely 
rkhunter and chkrootkit, that should be what you are looking for.
I have been using Debian (and Linux) for a short time (8 months now) so 
please take my advice with a grain of salt before some of the gurus of 
the list confirm what I suggested.

Regards

Giuseppe


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installation

2007-01-08 Thread Jerry Hahs
somewhere in the last week + saw that I was to notify if the OS had been 
installed - YES it is operating still have some hdwe tuning - was not 
easy; probably 10 times on 2 different machines - thanks

if this is not the place to notify pls fwd or send me the address


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Re: Etch stable - when?

2007-01-08 Thread Kevin Mark
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On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 12:36:21PM +, Clive Menzies wrote:
> On (08/01/07 12:21), Angela Gavazzi wrote:
> > Does anybody here know something more new than the informations from the 
> > debian site? 
> > 
> > 
> > July 24th, 2006
> > The Debian project confirms December 2006 as the date for the next release 
> > of 
> > its distribution which will be named Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 alias 'etch'. 
> > This 
> > will be the first official release to include the AMD64 architecture. The 
> > distribution will be released synchronously for 11 architectures in total.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's Januar 2007 now...
> 
> I'm not sure anyone can give you an answer although you'll no doubt get
> some opinion from those better informed than I.  Etch is now frozen and
> consequently will be released once all the release critical bugs are
> fixed.  FWIW I installed a server with etch (i386) yesterday and so far
> seems pretty rock solid; as long as the machine isn't exposed to the
> internet and your machine isn't mission critical, you may want to
> upgrade sooner.
> 
> In Debian speak 'it'll be released when it's ready' :)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Clive
> 
Hi,
In December there was about 120 release critial bugs left, now there is
about 100. So I 'guess' Feburary-March. Also, the mentioned date of
December was not a statement from anyone in Debian, December was a point
in the release timeline where folks would re-evaluate what was left to
do for the release.
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set up Etch to unicode

2007-01-08 Thread csanyipal
Hello!

I upgraded the system from Sarge to Etch.

Now, I want to setup the X Window system to unicode.

How can I do that?

There on Etch isn't there the localeconf package.


Any advices will be appreciated!

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Re: firewall problem? was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Scott

ss11223 wrote:

That's an oddity. Have you tried http://www.us.debian.org/ ?

  

That works!  I also *can't* get to www.debian.org from a Windoze box on
this LAN.

I'm checking to see if anyone at my ISP is having trouble.

Thanks,

Paul






Could this be a DNS problem? Did you try to access www.debian.org by
raw IP address?
  

Well ping gives me:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/pj$ ping www.debian.org
PING www.debian.org (194.109.137.218) 56(84) bytes of data.
From tge7-2.fr3.lga.llnw.net (69.28.171.125) icmp_seq=2 Time to live 
exceeded
From tge7-2.fr3.lga.llnw.net (69.28.171.125) icmp_seq=3 Time to live 
exceeded


So I think DNS is Ok.  I'm beginning to think it's somehow my ISP.

Thanks,

Paul


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How to tell if a Linux machine is a zombie?

2007-01-08 Thread Russell L. Harris
Yesterday I read another article bemoaning the large number of Window$
machines which have been commandeered remotely and turned into
spam-spewing zombies.

If I understand the matter correctly, a firewall can protect only
against incoming messages, and is useless against spyware which
"phones home" or zombie-ware which spews email spam.

So, before I preach about the dangers of spyware and zombies to my
buddies using Window$, how can I be certain that my own Debian machine
has not been compromised and has not become a zombie?  Is there a
simple test which I can run on a weekly basis?  

My LAN is protected by a machine running SmoothWall Express 2.0,
acting as a firewall and router.  Would an internal firewall package be
useful in this environment?

RLH


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Re: firewall problem? was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread ss11223

> > That's an oddity. Have you tried http://www.us.debian.org/ ?
> >
> That works!  I also *can't* get to www.debian.org from a Windoze box on
> this LAN.
>
> I'm checking to see if anyone at my ISP is having trouble.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>


Could this be a DNS problem? Did you try to access www.debian.org by
raw IP address?

Stuart


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RE: How to cool my cpu temperature?

2007-01-08 Thread Seth Goodman
Douglas Tutty wrote on Monday, January 08, 2007 8:02 AM -0600:

> On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 11:52:57PM -0600, Seth Goodman wrote:
> > Douglas Tutty wrote on Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:20 PM -0600:
> >
> > > Most electronics are designed for an ambient (to them, not the
> > > case) temperature of 25 C max.
> >
> > It would be nice if we could assume that when designing hardware,
> > but it isn't realistic.  Even for a benign laboratory environment,
> > we normally assume 40 degrees max ambient, which means the air and
> > all surfaces surrounding the case.  Industrial electronics are often
> > designed for 50 degrees ambient with the case interior being 15
> > degrees higher.
> >
> You mean that if you take a number off a chip and look it up in the
> manufacturer's datasheet it will say it will tolerate an ambient temp
> of 50C?  I'm not necessarily thinking of a major heat source like a
> CPU/GPU or a power transistor but a simple TTL or CMOS support chip.
> What about the clock occilator?  They __used__ to go haywire if you
> let them heat up too much.
>
> I'm not saying that the support chips won't work at higher temps but
> it shortens the bathtub curve.  Its one of those rules-of-thumb: if
you
> can't leave your thumb on the chip comfortably, then its too hot.
> Mil-spec has a different rule of thumb of course.  Then its not your
> thumb but a delegated thumb:-)  Electronics designed from the outset
> for extreme environments will of course work in them.  E.g. automobile
> stuff, Mars rover, pacemakers (water cooled at 38 C).  The OP I think
> was talking about a regular consumer-grade computer so I limited my
> focus to that.

While your rule of thumb is certainly safe, it's overly conservative.
Here's some explanation.

Integrated circuits today come in a few general temperature ranges:

commercial 0 to  +70 degrees
industrial   -40 to  +85 degrees
automotive   -40 to +125 degrees
military -55 to +125 degrees

These temperature ranges refer to the ambient temperatures of the chip
environment, which means the air and circuit board temperatures.  It is
not the package (case) temperature that you mentioned.  Regardless of
the ambient temperature rating, the operating limit is 125 degrees
junction (die) temperature for silicon.  Below this temperature, the
failure rate is temperature dependent and roughly doubles for each ten
degree increase in junction temperature.  While every application has
different reliability and operating life requirements, most applications
can tolerate junction temperatures of 110 degrees for smaller packages.

Manufacturers normally select IC packages to give a junction to ambient
temperature difference of around 20 degrees.  This gives a maximum case
temperature of around 100 degrees and an ambient temperature of 90
degrees.  For commercial grade parts, the limit is 70 degrees ambient
for the package, so case temperature might be 80 degrees.  You shouldn't
operate at the limit, but there's no problem with a 60-70 degree case
temperature for many applications.  This takes some care, but it is not
unusual in scientific and industrial equipment.

Large scale integrated circuits that dissipate a lot of power are a
different matter.  These chips are more failure prone because of several
factors.  The primary reason is that there are so many I/O connections
that the probability of a single failure is much higher at a given
junction temperature.  You use heat sinks to limit the junction to
ambient temperature difference and keep the ambient temperature somewhat
lower than for the smaller packages.  Still, it is overkill to require
that case temperatures never exceed 50 degrees.


> How can a laboratory environment of 40 C be called benign?  I conk out
> at 28 C.

So do I, but we're soft :)  Equipment is still expected to work in a
rack, where temperatures are higher than in the room, or in a closet
with less than ideal airflow.  Laboratories often don't have
high-capacity cooling systems with backups.  And as Hugo points out, air
conditioning is terribly expensive in some places and may not be
reliable even when present.

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Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Tom

Tom wrote:


If that's not enough, they offer documentation for offline use at [1].

Put short, do your homework. :p


Bleh. :)

[1] http://www.php.net/download-docs.php

Cheers,
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Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Tom

Hey ho Lorenzo,


I can't seem to find such a package in Debian... should I

> add some particular repository?

Isn't PHP's greatest strength its online-ness and user comments? Why
not use it that way, there's plenty of mirrors, and browsers usually
have caching mechanisms. :)

If that's not enough, they offer documentation for offline use at [1].

Put short, do your homework. :p

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Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Mutsuura Associates, Inc.

I loaded up XAMPP which comes w/ PHP4 and PHP5 (default).

Works out of the box.

Attila


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Hello Lorenzo.

Lorenzo Bettini, 08.01.2007 18:24:

[ PHP5 documentation ]

I can't seem to find such a package in Debian... should I add some
particular repository?



$ apt-cache search php5 doc
php5-common - Common files for packages built from the php5 source
php5-json - JSON serialiser for PHP5
php5-memcache - memcache extension module for PHP5
php5-tidy - tidy module for php5
php5-xapian - Xapian search engine interface for PHP5
php-doc - Documentation for PHP4 and PHP5
phpdoc - Transition package for PHP4 and PHP5 documentation



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Re: Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello Lorenzo.

Lorenzo Bettini, 08.01.2007 18:24:
> [ PHP5 documentation ]
> 
> I can't seem to find such a package in Debian... should I add some
> particular repository?

> $ apt-cache search php5 doc
> php5-common - Common files for packages built from the php5 source
> php5-json - JSON serialiser for PHP5
> php5-memcache - memcache extension module for PHP5
> php5-tidy - tidy module for php5
> php5-xapian - Xapian search engine interface for PHP5
> php-doc - Documentation for PHP4 and PHP5
> phpdoc - Transition package for PHP4 and PHP5 documentation


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Php 5 documentation

2007-01-08 Thread Lorenzo Bettini

Hi

I can't seem to find such a package in Debian... should I add some 
particular repository?


thanks in advance
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Re: firewall problem? was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Scott

Alan Ianson wrote:

On Mon January 8 2007 08:57, Paul Scott wrote:
  

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:


On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:33:11AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
  

Is anyone else having trouble getting to www.debian.org?  I can get to
mirrors to install packages but not to the web site.


works fine in Spokane WA
  

Can anyone think of what protocol my firewall might be blocking that
might cause this.  I'm looking through logs right now and not finding
anything so far.  I am currently trying both Guarddog and firestarter
(one at a time).  I can ping debian.org and packages.debian.org but not
www.debian.org.  I haven't discovered any other web sites that are blocked.



That's an oddity. Have you tried http://www.us.debian.org/ ?
  
That works!  I also *can't* get to www.debian.org from a Windoze box on 
this LAN.


I'm checking to see if anyone at my ISP is having trouble.

Thanks,

Paul


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Re: small form factor recommendations

2007-01-08 Thread Matt Miller
> something that is a pretty small form factor as space is a definite
> consideration

I've been using the Shuttle XPC.  This is not a super-small machine, but
it is a full-fledged PC in a small form factor.  I've used the SN21G5.
Put in an AMD 4600+ CPU, a couple GB of RAM, configure a couple SATA II
drives into a RAID1 (or RAID0 if you care about speed more than
redundancy), and you've got a fast, quiet machine.

I've installed 64-bit etch without any problems.  The machines are net-
bootable, and that's how I've installed the OS.  You can supposedly also
boot off a USB stick, or, just install a DVD drive.

> the main consideration is lots of USB

The machine has 4 USB ports built in, and I'm sure you could plug in a
USB hub if you needed more.

I like Shuttle because they've been around for a long time, they have
good AMD support, and I can buy the machines at a my local
electronics/computer superstore.


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Re: [OT: of interest only to new Gmail users] Re: test message

2007-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:42:59 -0500
Kamaraju Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 07 January 2007 04:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
> > I think this gmail quirk should go to Raju's FAQ:
> >
> > Q: I posted from my gmail account, but I don't receive my own posts.
> > But I receive other posts and even answers to my own posts.
> >
> > A: gmail will discard your own posts because they consider them to
> > be a duplicate of the sent message (which is stored in the sent
> > folder). The only way around this (if you still want to receive
> > your mail through gmail) is to use a different server for sending,
> > ex. your own ISP's smarthost. Just take care when configuring your
> > mail client so that the correct address appears.
> >
> 
> Sounds like an expensive solution to me. Is there no other simple
> hack?
> 
> The main advantage of gmail or any web based program is that the user
> will be able to access the email from anywhere on earth (as long as
> he has internet connection). If he has to use some other SMTP server,
> then it beats the purpose doesnt it?
> 
> Anyway, if no better solution comes up, then I will add this as
> suggested.

I have the ISP account anyway (is included with the internet access) 
so I didn't worry about it.

Another hack would be to use two gmail accounts. One for sending and
one for receiving. The point is to not let gmail associate the sent
mail (the posting) with the received mail from the list because it
considers them to be duplicate (though they are not). Care has to be
taken as gmail won't let you change the From: address, so the posting
address (account) will be the one that shows up in the archives.

A more primitive hack is to configure your MUA to save outgoing mail to
the same folder. This way you can still follow the thread correctly,
but you have to check in the archives if your message reached the list.

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Re: firewall problem? was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon January 8 2007 08:57, Paul Scott wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:33:11AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> >> Is anyone else having trouble getting to www.debian.org?  I can get to
> >> mirrors to install packages but not to the web site.
> >
> > works fine in Spokane WA
>
> Can anyone think of what protocol my firewall might be blocking that
> might cause this.  I'm looking through logs right now and not finding
> anything so far.  I am currently trying both Guarddog and firestarter
> (one at a time).  I can ping debian.org and packages.debian.org but not
> www.debian.org.  I haven't discovered any other web sites that are blocked.

That's an oddity. Have you tried http://www.us.debian.org/ ?


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Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

2007-01-08 Thread Bob McGowan
Since the original problem appears to be a hang shortly after attempting 
to read the BIOS, I kinda doubt that this trick will work.  The poster 
stated that attempting to boot Sarge, "it" says BIOS check fails.  I 
wonder if this is the BIOS itself, and Debian isn't even in the picture yet?


I'd suggest getting a Live CD or Debian Rescue CD or even a floppy and 
see if you can get your system to boot a Linux system (or DOS, heaven 
forbid, though FreeDOS is a good alternative) at all.


You should also run your BIOS setup program and verify that it's 
correctly configured for the motherboard/hard disks/etc. that you in 
fact have available.


Bob

Douglas Tutty wrote:

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:04:34AM +0800, a wrote:
 
I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails

I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem
Do I have to re-install sarge?


If the old and new motherboards are identical there should be no
problem.  If they differ but are for the same port (eg. i386) and you
are using a stock debian kernel, then the kernel should boot.  Try using
init=/bin/sh kernel parameter.  This lets you focus on the kernel, does
it find the root partition, can it mount it ro and find /bin/sh?  If you
get a shell, then you know that the kernel works and you can work the
problem from that point.  


Once you get that far, try using the kernel parameter single to take you
directly to single user mode.  From that you can work on what modules
you may need loaded for your new hardware.

This procedure lets you narrow down where a problem lies.

If you get stuck you can copy out what you get on the screen and send it
here asking for more specific help.

Good luck,

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Re: Annoying beep!

2007-01-08 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 06.01.07 19:53, David Baron wrote:
> I get it if there is a console login, say on 0,vt1 and the firewall is 
> stopping packets. Each one of these messages will beep.
> 
> Logging out the session silences the noise.

it may be either your confole program configured to beep whenever a message
is received, or the firewall configured to send beeps to the console...
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Re: [OT: of interest only to new Gmail users] Re: test message

2007-01-08 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon January 8 2007 08:42, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
> On Sunday 07 January 2007 04:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > I think this gmail quirk should go to Raju's FAQ:
> >
> > Q: I posted from my gmail account, but I don't receive my own posts.
> > But I receive other posts and even answers to my own posts.
> >
> > A: gmail will discard your own posts because they consider them to be a
> > duplicate of the sent message (which is stored in the sent folder). The
> > only way around this (if you still want to receive your mail through
> > gmail) is to use a different server for sending, ex. your own ISP's
> > smarthost. Just take care when configuring your mail client so that the
> > correct address appears.
>
> Sounds like an expensive solution to me. Is there no other simple hack?
>
> The main advantage of gmail or any web based program is that the user will
> be able to access the email from anywhere on earth (as long as he has
> internet connection). If he has to use some other SMTP server, then it
> beats the purpose doesnt it?
>
> Anyway, if no better solution comes up, then I will add this as suggested.

This is the solution that I used when I used gmail. Apart from that maybe fcc 
or cc would work for you?


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firewall problem? was: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Paul Scott

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:33:11AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
  
Is anyone else having trouble getting to www.debian.org?  I can get to 
mirrors to install packages but not to the web site.



works fine in Spokane WA
  
Can anyone think of what protocol my firewall might be blocking that 
might cause this.  I'm looking through logs right now and not finding 
anything so far.  I am currently trying both Guarddog and firestarter 
(one at a time).  I can ping debian.org and packages.debian.org but not 
www.debian.org.  I haven't discovered any other web sites that are blocked.


Thanks,

Paul



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Re: Debian unstable DVD-s

2007-01-08 Thread Yvan
Nedavno Albert Dengg pise:

| well, as an alternative to the option of the previous poster (run a
| netinstall), you could also use jigdo to download the images for the
| testing distribution, which should not be much difference to
| unstable...
| 
| though, it is probably faster to run a netinstall (unless you plan to
| install multiple installs, in which case you could also use some sort
| of proxy (either a specialiced one for apt, or an aproprialtly
| configured http/ftp proxy). downloading all packages will most of the
| time be and overkill, since you will only need a fraktion of them.

Yes, I knew that. But then when I need to install something new (and I
do from time to time) I end up needing to download lots of MB (one
package depends on other, and so on...) Not practical on dial-up. And I
can not bother my friend every time, or take my desktop to a coffee shop
(and they do not have Internet connection where I am).

So the most practical is to download everything once a year, or, as I
found now, ask someone to download and burn DVD-s for me for a small
fee (check here http://www.discountlinuxdvd.com/debian.htm 4 DVD set for
just $7.00). I asked this guy, and he is willing to download and burn
DVD-s for me. I just have to mail him a link where from he can download
Debian sid.


| however, you can download the jigdo files for testing from here:
| http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#which
| 
| (you will also find a description on how to do it there)


I know about jigdo, I used it last year, but now whoever was
responsible for creating .jigdo and .template files for unstable / sid
stopped updating files:

ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sid-dvd/jigdo/

I found some German sites offering Debian sid DVD-s but for ~$35. So it
is possible to get sid, and I am just asking here if anyone knows how
to do that.


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Re: Etch stable - when?

2007-01-08 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 12:36:21 +
Clive Menzies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [snip] as long as the machine
> isn't exposed to the internet ... [snip]

AFAIK the security support is already running for etch.

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Re: [OT: of interest only to new Gmail users] Re: test message

2007-01-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Sunday 07 January 2007 04:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> I think this gmail quirk should go to Raju's FAQ:
>
> Q: I posted from my gmail account, but I don't receive my own posts.
> But I receive other posts and even answers to my own posts.
>
> A: gmail will discard your own posts because they consider them to be a
> duplicate of the sent message (which is stored in the sent folder). The
> only way around this (if you still want to receive your mail through
> gmail) is to use a different server for sending, ex. your own ISP's
> smarthost. Just take care when configuring your mail client so that the
> correct address appears.
>

Sounds like an expensive solution to me. Is there no other simple hack?

The main advantage of gmail or any web based program is that the user will be 
able to access the email from anywhere on earth (as long as he has internet 
connection). If he has to use some other SMTP server, then it beats the 
purpose doesnt it?

Anyway, if no better solution comes up, then I will add this as suggested.

raju

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Re: truncated output

2007-01-08 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hello.

ccostin, 08.01.2007 16:31:
> dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* command show
> 
> Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
> | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
> |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err:
> uppercase=bad)
> ||/ Name  Version   Description
> +++-=-=-==
> 
> pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
> description available)
> pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
> description available)
> 
> truncating names of packages from output list.

Either set COLUMNS:

$ COLUMS=200 dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*

Or use cat:

$ dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* | cat


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Re: Etch stable - when?

2007-01-08 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
On Monday 08 January 2007 06:21, Angela Gavazzi wrote:
> Does anybody here know something more new than the informations from the
> debian site?
>

I usually keep track of debian-devel-announce mailing list for this kind of 
things. Subscription/unsubscription info for debian-devel-announce mailing 
list can be found at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/

I believe Etch will be released when the developers think it is stable enough 
and when the R-C bug count drops down close to 0. According to 
http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ there are currently 109 RC bugs 
concerning the next release. If you want Etch to be released faster, please 
consider squashing some RC bugs...

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Re: www.debian.org down?

2007-01-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 02:33:11AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> Is anyone else having trouble getting to www.debian.org?  I can get to 
> mirrors to install packages but not to the web site.

works fine in Spokane WA

A


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Re: Does XFS work with LVM?

2007-01-08 Thread Lars Roland

On 1/7/07, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 06:35:34AM +0100, rafiks wrote:
>
> But I read somewhere that I can't make the partition smaller with XFS..Is
> this still true?
>
That is correct.  You cannot make XFS shrink, only grow.  However, this
does not prevent you from using it on LVM.  You just can't make the
logical volumes any smaller, only larger.  Out of curiousity, why XFS?
Why not ext3?


XFS has some nice features for snapshotting and freezing filesystems,
which is why many people often use it together with databases. Out of
curiosity, many people claim that ext3 can be resized live but I seam
to remember that it requires you to run e2fsck prior to doing the
resizing i.e.


e2fsck -f /dev/group/volume
resize2fs /dev/group/volume


I might be wrong on this but isn't it a requirement that e2fsck is run
with the filesystem unmounted ? which is not exactly what I associate
with being online. On xfs you can always use the xfs_growfs command to
enlarge a fs, no matter what state it is in (except corrupted).


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Re: Does XFS work with LVM?

2007-01-08 Thread Marko Randjelovic

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:

mke2fs(8) (which is what you get when you run 'man mkfs.ext3'), states:
   -m reserved-blocks-percentage
  Specify the percentage of the filesystem blocks reserved for the
  super-user.   This  avoids  fragmentation, and allows root-owned
  daemons, such as syslogd(8), to continue to  function  correctly
  after non-privileged processes are prevented from writing to the
  filesystem.  The default percentage is 5%.

So, the default is 5%, and you can make it as small or as large as you
want.  Incidentally, that is a *good* thing, since it prevents a rouge
unprivileged process from crashing the system by filling the disks with
crap.
  

I think I tried that option, too.

Of course, you are more than welcome to use reiserfs, JFS, or XFS.
However, reiserfs, from my understanding, has its own set of issues and
JFS and XFS are best left to "experts" or at least to people who know
what they are doing.  For example, please read these two threads about
XFS:

http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2005-06/msg00155.html
http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/6/29/10

  

I recommend also

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/aix/library/au-unix-reiserFS/index.html
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388

People had problems with reiserfs, but that was long ago. It is true 
that traditionaly ext3 is most reliable, but now reiserfs has 
data=journal option that seems to improve reliability, as it states, in 
the case of disaster, but also reduces write speed.


I myself am using reiserfs on all both my machines. On my desktop 
computer since 2004 (a few months xfs), and on router since feb-2006. 
Router is always on, and last year I had at least 50 power failures, and 
no single problem. I would like to mention that there is always writing 
to the drive. Also, while I used xfs, there was one situation, but it 
was repaired with fsck.


My friend has similar configuration. He had serious damage on power 
failure which he mostly managed to recover from, but on that drive also 
appeared bad sectors.



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truncated output

2007-01-08 Thread ccostin

Hello

dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* command show

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed
|/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name  Version   Description
+++-=-=-==
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)

truncating names of packages from output list.

Using COLUMNS=132 dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen* or
export COLUMNS=132
dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*
names appear untruncated at first execution of dpkg --list ...
command. But when is same command running again same problem appear.


#export COLUMNS=132
#dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*
[...]
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-k7   (no
description available)
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vs   (no
description available)
# dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*
[...]
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)
# export COLUMNS=132
# dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*
[...]
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-k7   (no
description available)
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen-vs   (no
description available)
# dpkg --list linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen*
[...]
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)
pn  linux-image-2.6.16-2-xen- (no
description available)

Is a dpkg problem (environmental variable(s) are is not set) or
missing a  parameter of dpkg (fields size  or something) ?


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Re: Missing jigdo file

2007-01-08 Thread Alan Ianson
On Sun January 7 2007 22:16, Bryce wrote:
>   Does anyone known anything about the file
> gtkdiskfree_1.9.3-4sarge1_amd64.deb :
>
>   Jigdo asks for this file but can't find it--out of over 7,000 files this
> is the only one missing for a DVD ISO (for AMD-64).  The archives at
> snapshot.debian.net don't have this file after 8/31/06
> (http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2006/08/31/debian/pool/main/g/gtkdiskfr
>ee/) and pointing jigdo to that file in those before that date doesn't work,
> jigdo doesn't like it (wrong filesize?)
>
>   What's the deal?

I got that error too, I used http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ 
to get that file.


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