Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 06:19:12AM +0200, M. Fioretti wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > > If the volume of messages in an off-topic thread is large enough that > > > an entire separate list is being considered, the off-topic diversion > > > is already beyond the level Joey describes as "social lubricant" and > > > into the level of disruptive noise. > > > > So people who "know" each other for years on this list are condemned > > to keep discussions (mostly) on-topic or leave the forum? By forum I meant whole Debian, not this list (should have put some quotes around). > Of course. How can you ask such a ridiculous question? Please think a > bit more before posting. First of all, going by your "logic", I could > invite all my friends to post here all the proposals on where to go on > vacation next summer or which DVD I should rent tomorrow. Just in case you missed my initial proposal, I was suggesting a separate list for OT, but still within the Debian project. This way when OT gets out of hand posters could move the thread to the OT list. I see this on the lists of a LUG and it works fairly well. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:06:39PM -0400, cga2000 wrote: > > I tried: > > video=rivafb:1280x960 > > video=vesafb:1280x960 > > > > but neither worked. > > You do realize that you may need to compile a custom kernel to enable > support for a given video card..? Not necessarily. It should work if you inlcude the module in your initrd. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
keeping ooffice in foreground
hi guys, is there any way how to force ooffice, oocalc, oowriter, ... not to go into background? when i issue soffice, it works exactly this way, but i would like to have it (if possible) for oo* as well. why do i need it? i have openoffice installed in chroot (this is amd64 system). oo* apps are started automatically using a wrapper running schroot with relevant parameters. i use schroot with automated bindmounting of /home, /tmp, and others after the chroot is entered. these directories should be unmounted after the chroot is left. the problem is, that ooffice goes to background automatically. therefore, schroot wants to exit and unmount the bindmounted directories. this is, however, not possible, because these are used by the oo* binary running in background... then, i have the directories bindmounted several times and have to unmount them personally (which is annoying). i would be very glad for any hints how to accomplish this. best regards, -- Lubos [EMAIL PROTECTED]" http://www.lubos.vrbka.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:59:15PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:43:45PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > Agreed. It may be a good idea to add to the mailing lists code of > > conduct a couple of extra lines: > > > > A lot of questions asked on debian-user and debian-devel are asked > > regularly. Please consider searching using an Internet search engine > > and reading the mailing list archives, Debian install notes and Debian > > reference manual before you post. If you can't find the answer, it is > > very helpful to others to show that you have attempted at least some of > > the above and your degree of success. > > > > If you have a problem, please be prepared to give hardware/installed > > software and version information if requested to as part of the process > > of problem resolution. > > > > Politeness and precision in use of language both help to narrow down > > issues and constrain extraneous discussions and flame wars. If tempted > > to start or continue contentions threads, please consider moving these > > to private email or to debian-curiosa. Both debian-user and debian-devel > > are high-volume lists read by people worldwide: consideration should be > > given to the fact that the views and attitudes of others may differ from > > your own. > > > Seconded. yup. me too. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:44:10PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > It would be helpful if that code of conduct had its own page and be > enumerated so that it could be referred to directly when we try to > self-regulate. Eg: "Yoh WhatsYourName, this topic, while interesting in > a general sense, is rather OT. Please take it off list, per the list > code of conduct item 13 at > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/CodeOfConduct#13."; I keep getting 404's for this link and various versions of it, am I missing something? > > > To get this discussion going, I move that the Code of Conduct be adopted > as official debian policy. > > Seconded: > > Discussion: I have no opposition to a code of conduct. > > All in Favour: > > Opposed: > > > I propose we add a clause to the code of conduct to address the OT > issue. This half of the problem is generally followed but it should be > part of policy. The following wording is a starting point for discussion: > > > Discussions which are not Debian-Specific but which are relavent > to the list topic should have their subjects prepended with [OT] > to flag them for others as Off Topic. Discussions which are not > relavent to the list topic should be taken off the list. > > Seconded: > > Discussion: I have read most of this thread and have stayed out of it until now, but this seems like an appropriate time to put in my .02. I have in the past done my share (fair or not) of OT posting. Mostly, I try to keep it light, humorous and vaguely related (real geeks use type jokes etc. oh and requests for the list ethicist to jump in! joe?). But I've also gotten into a couple heated discussions as well. In the past I have defended other's rights to have OT discussions as I'd rather deal with the OT, then have my little contributions to it stifled. That said, I have grudgingly come to the realization over the past couple months that we've gotten out of hand. I would like to see a general agreement from those of us who are heavily involved in this list regarding the disposition of OT posts. I don't want to see them go away, but I would like to see us agree that when someone says "hey, enoguh is enough, can we drop this one" that we would do so. This is not a blanket approval, on my part, for anyone to just willy-nilly cancel OT threads, because often they aren't really OT, or are fun and light-hearted and so forth. BUt I think its clear to all of us, that when we start wandering into politics and religion and things start getting heated, that its probably time to let it go. Having another one of us more frequent contributors step up and say something would not bother me in the least. And I think it would not bother the rest. I know many of you have your particular gripes with each other, but you all also know when its probably gone too far. I think a little reason and respect for each other could do a lot. > > All in Favour: > > Opposed: > > > To address the second half of the problem, I propose we add a clause on > offensive posts. There is already a clause that says not to use foul > language, and one that says "try" not to flame. There is no excuse for > flaming or offensiveness in any discussion and it should not be > tolerated. The link provided in the code of conduct to the definition > of "flame" referres to impolite ranting which I think comes under the > more general term of offensive language. While it has been shown that > you can't legislate moral or polite behaviour, you can exclude people > who demonstrate impolite behaviour from a group. I propose the > following wording as a starting point for discussion: > > > Discussions and comments which are offensive, hateful, or > disrespectful to an individual or group are not permitted. > Swearing and foul language is not permited in any language > (exception: words in common usage in the list language may be > swear words in another language). > > Seconded: > > Discussion: I think this is obvious and anyone of us should feel free to tell someone to STFU for posting in this manner. SOme of you will split hairs and say that what to one is unacceptable is not so to others and I *agree* with you. But there are also generally accepted norms of behavior that we all recognise to some extent or another. and that's my .02 on it all. I'll let it drop now and do better to control my own OT stuff in the future. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:35:27PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:00:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > > > My _first_ consideration (other than not going bankrupt) was longevity, > > > hense the huge case, PSU in bottom bay, and lots of fans. Good reliable > > > fans also seem to be quieter than cheap unreliable ones. > > > > why PSU in the bottom bay? Does that not force more heat into the rest > > of the box? or is it to keep the PSU , a very failure prone item, > > cooler and thus longer lived? just curious. > > > > Is the PSU really more failure prone than any other component? it is my understanding, having long ago lost the source, that the PSU is the *most* failure prone item. At least in consumer grade stuff. But it is largely overlooked and probably goes undiagnosed, or misdiagnosed as mobo issues etc. I do know that the two times I've taken a box into a professional for diagnosing, the first thing they test is the PSU. Anecdotaly, I lose way more PSU's than anything else. Maybe I've got bad power and in fact, I've not lost one on a UPS... hmmm... Anyway, somewhere I read its PSU, then disks, then other stuff... A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unable to connect to network
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 12:32:50AM +0100, Pete wrote: > > Just had another thought on this, following another thread. Tried 'ifup -a' > to > see what would happen. Came back 'ifup command unknown'. its in /sbin so you either need the full path, or do it as root (it won't work as non-root anyway). A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Unable to connect to network
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 10:52:12PM +0100, Pete wrote: > On Sunday 20 May 2007 19:56:47 H.S. wrote: > > Pete wrote: > > > DHCP. Laptop has its own IP address. No idea about name resolution. Not > > > certain how to check it > > > > What is the output of the following commands: > > > > $> ping 4.2.2.2 > > > > $> ping google.com > > > > $> ping > > > > > > ->HS > > Curiouser and curiouser. > > My router is set up with the following (from my IP's instructions) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Password= > IP Address=82.138.204.44 > > If I ping 'phone.coop' I get > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c5 phone.coop > PING phone.coop (1.0.0.0) 56(84) bytes of data. --- this means you're not getting name resolution (the part where the name is turned into an IP address). > 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4001ms > > If I ping the IP address I get: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c5 82.138.204.44 > PING 82.138.204.44 (82.138.204.44) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=3.02 ms > 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.688 ms > 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.676 ms > 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=0.681 ms > 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=0.672 ms right... > > The result is exactly the same on this partition (Xubuntu, which is working) > and the other one (Debian, which isn't). Not certain what it proves other > than neither system recognises the name of the IP. > > Pinging google.com gives the expected result: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c 5 google.com > PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data. > 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=151 ms > 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=147 > ms. I'm confused. Which boot, debian or Xubuntu gives the good results for ping google? > > Following Jeff D's advice > /etc/resolv.conf > > # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! > > nameserver 192.168.1.1 > > The result is the same for both systems. Haven't tried laptop but it should > give 'nameserver 192.168.1.2' ummm... The contents of /etc/resolv.conf general comes from your dhcp server and it should be the address(es) of a nameserver and possible a search domain as well. If you are using the same dhcp server for both boots (your router, I assume) then you should be getting the same contents of /etc/resolv.conf. Please confirm what the contents of /etc/resolv.conf are for the ubuntu boot. I believe that network manager is probabnly complicating the picture and maybe you need just a basic dhcp client that properly handles resolv.conf, but that's just me. ONe thing you could do as a test is put in some known good name server addresses into resolv.conf and see if that fixes it up for you. Unless your router has a cacheing nameserver incorporated into it, it should be providing you with your ISP's nameservers and not its own address... A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: emacs and jed extremely slow
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 08:52:37AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > On 5/21/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Strange. I know on my system when my hourly rsync backup runs, it can > >take a couple of seconds for things that are normally instantaneous. > >Beyond that, I am not sure. Does this happen all the time or only at > >certain times? Is your machine on all the time or not. I know that the > >locate database is updated sometime during the night. However, if your > >machine is not on at night, it may run at bootup, which would reduce the > >amount of I/O badnwidth available to other applications. > > It's on mostly at nights. And it's been night time when I h ave seen > this happen. Does nto happen always but only sometimes. Say once a > night. Seen this since last 3 or 4 days. I think ROberto is right -- you've probably got some cron job that's competing. A quick ps -e or ps aux should clue you in. If you jump to a terminal everytime it happens, you'll quickly figure out what the source of the problem is. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Sound not working on Mac PowerBook G4
Florian Kulzer wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 20:43:44 +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: Dear all sound output is not working on my PowerBook G4 with Debian Etch. During boot I can see a message flashing by, saying something along the lines that snd_powermac encountered an error -12. Any hints or ideas? Hi again, It would be better to know the exact message. Try dmesg | grep snd right after boot. dmesg | grep snd snd-aoa-fabric-layout: found bus with layout 82 snd-aoa-fabric-layout: Using PMF GPIOs snd-aoa-codec-onyx: found pcm3052 snd-aoa-fabric-layout: can use this codec snd-aoa-codec-onyx: attached to onyx codec via i2c snd-aoa-codec-onyx: created and attached onyx instance snd_powermac: probe of snd_powermac failed with error -12 Also post the output of: lsmod | grep snd lsmod | grep snd snd_powermac 48188 0 snd_aoa_codec_onyx 15616 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout14056 0 snd_aoa20864 2 snd_aoa_codec_onyx,snd_aoa_fabric_layout snd_aoa_i2sbus 24228 1 snd_pcm_oss52032 0 snd_mixer_oss 20704 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm91396 3 snd_powermac,snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss snd_timer 26500 1 snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 11304 1 snd_pcm snd65908 9 snd_powermac,snd_aoa_codec_onyx,snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa,snd_aoa_i2sbus,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 11204 1 snd snd_aoa_soundbus8004 2 snd_aoa_fabric_layout,snd_aoa_i2sbus lspci | egrep -i 'audio|media|sound' This does not give any output, so here's the full result from lspci alone (without th egrep): :00:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 AGP Bridge :00:10.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 [Mobility Radeon 9600 M10] 0001:10:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 PCI Bridge 0001:10:11.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02) 0001:10:14.0 CardBus bridge: Texas Instruments PCI1510 PC card Cardbus Controller 0001:10:15.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 0001:10:15.1 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB (rev 43) 0001:10:15.2 USB Controller: NEC Corporation USB 2.0 (rev 04) 0001:10:17.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. KeyLargo/Intrepid Mac I/O 0002:24:0b.0 Host bridge: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 PCI Bridge 0002:24:0d.0 Class ff00: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 ATA/100 0002:24:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 Firewire 0002:24:0f.0 Ethernet controller: Apple Computer Inc. Intrepid2 GMAC (Sun GEM) Thanks, Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 22:15:34 PM +0300, Andrei Popescu ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > > If the volume of messages in an off-topic thread is large enough that > > an entire separate list is being considered, the off-topic diversion > > is already beyond the level Joey describes as "social lubricant" and > > into the level of disruptive noise. > > So people who "know" each other for years on this list are condemned > to keep discussions (mostly) on-topic or leave the forum? Of course. How can you ask such a ridiculous question? Please think a bit more before posting. First of all, going by your "logic", I could invite all my friends to post here all the proposals on where to go on vacation next summer or which DVD I should rent tomorrow. > How is this benefic to the community? "Condemning" such behavior would: 1) Guarantee that the archives stop being constantly filled with thousands of idiotic, endless ramblings whose main effect (*)is to confirm that Debian is the distro/community which should be avoided the most by those who need something done and/or need support and company of responsible adults 2) Keep more Debian developers talking directly with end users (one of the reasons that prompted Joey to start this thread is exactly that many developers avoid this forum for exactly the lack of such "condemn") 3) Allow even people without flat broadband to contribute to the community without wasting money (the next reason is mainly an answer to the equally brainless reply to this post which pompously noted, without knowing anything of other people private lives, how "some of those protesting the most contribute very little technically") 4) Allow newbies to learn silently, even before they become POP/IMAP masters, without bearing thousands of completely useless messages, that is to bring much more people, much more quickly, to the point where they *can* start to contribute technically to Debian 5) Generally speaking, make clear that one cannot continue to be, in public at least, a spoiled, egocentric child unable to know when to keep his or her mouth shut or to focus on any argument... only because he or she is a very competent software hacker. Which is, by the way, still one of the main reasons why many non geeks who try FOSS abandon it the first time they need support and meet this face of the "community" (not just with Debian, of course). There. Is this enough? Gee, I can't believe there was a need to write something so obvious. (*) Since last Christmas, at least, that is when the small group of people who caused this thread losed any restraint. Marco -- Help *everybody* love Free Standards and Free Software http://digifreedom.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT VPS Hosting
Martin Kenneth Lopez wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have an off topic question, I hope that someone help me, I bought a > hosting plan with Dreamhost but is just simply anything but a > hosting company I have like a day of downtime each week, is horrible > that's why I'm looking now for a Virtual Private Server Hosting company > does anyone know a good company that really works? Any help will be > appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > I use Bytemark.co.uk They offer debian servers. -- Random Quotes From Megas XLR Coop: You see? The mysteries of the Universe are revealed when you break stuff. Jamie: When in doubt, blow up a planet. Kiva: It's an 80 foot robot, if we can't see it, absolutely it's not here. Glorft Technician: Unnecessary use of force in capturing the Earthers has been approved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs and jed extremely slow
On 5/21/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Strange. I know on my system when my hourly rsync backup runs, it can take a couple of seconds for things that are normally instantaneous. Beyond that, I am not sure. Does this happen all the time or only at certain times? Is your machine on all the time or not. I know that the locate database is updated sometime during the night. However, if your machine is not on at night, it may run at bootup, which would reduce the amount of I/O badnwidth available to other applications. It's on mostly at nights. And it's been night time when I h ave seen this happen. Does nto happen always but only sometimes. Say once a night. Seen this since last 3 or 4 days. Regards, Deboo -- Please don't Cc: me, I'm subscribed to the list.
Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 07:25:41PM EDT, Owen Heisler wrote: [..] > A list of the available video drivers here (?): > http://linux-fbdev.sourceforge.net/driverlist.php > > I tried: > video=rivafb:1280x960 > video=vesafb:1280x960 > > but neither worked. You do realize that you may need to compile a custom kernel to enable support for a given video card..? Something else that I didn't mention. I was never able get the framebuffer console to initialize correctly when support for my card was specified via a module. This may no longer be the case .. maybe I didn't do it right .. but I recommend you specify an <*> in your kernel's config .. meaning built-in support. I have a feeling the above page is not current. It says kernel "2.4" on each and every line and that's hardly bleeding edge. Obviously, developers are not all that interested in 2-3 year old kernels. On the other hand, after all the time I spent looking for solutions to my problem, I'd say some of the names on that page look familiar and I'm sure that even if one person in particular doesn't or no longer supports the particular driver you're interested in .. they would gladly direct you to the current maintainer should you decide to email them directly. They don't have such a large user base so someone genuinely interested who might dig up some real problem or other is usually of interest to them. But I would make sure to identify the correct party before emailing them. The output of $ lspci -vv and a quick peek at a recent kernel's ../drivers/ video subtree .. might help (?) Be aware that the video card is sometimes not the end of the story. This was the case with my mach64 where some versions were fully supported and others weren't .. because a different version of the chip that the card uses (or a different chip altogether) can make all the difference. Good luck with it and you're welcome to get back to me on/off-list if you think I may be able to help. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs and jed extremely slow
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:43:45AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > On 5/21/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Do you have a low memory or slow machine? Do you have one or more > >filesystems mounted over a slow network? > > 256 MB should suffice for console. No NFS either. Atleast jed > shouldn't take up similar time that sometimes emacs does? Even emacs > runs in about 2 seconds or less normally so I wonder what causes the > delay? Cronjobs? > Strange. I know on my system when my hourly rsync backup runs, it can take a couple of seconds for things that are normally instantaneous. Beyond that, I am not sure. Does this happen all the time or only at certain times? Is your machine on all the time or not. I know that the locate database is updated sometime during the night. However, if your machine is not on at night, it may run at bootup, which would reduce the amount of I/O badnwidth available to other applications. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: dpkg-reconfigure of xserver-xorg creates problem for users! (Fixed!)
Got it! After removing the problem user from all likely groups, there was no difference - still could not run X. Started getting desparate and deleting anything that looked like a configuration file or directory in the user's home directory. It all came right when I removed .gconf. Therefore, it seems that for some reason dpkg-reconfigure fiddles with something in the .gconf directory. Should I file a bug against dpkg-reconfigure? Many thanks for suggestions from Michael Pobega and Florian Kulzer. Bruce Ward = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Bruce Ward Christchurch, New Zealand
Re: emacs and jed extremely slow
On 5/21/07, Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you have a low memory or slow machine? Do you have one or more filesystems mounted over a slow network? 256 MB should suffice for console. No NFS either. Atleast jed shouldn't take up similar time that sometimes emacs does? Even emacs runs in about 2 seconds or less normally so I wonder what causes the delay? Cronjobs? Regards, Deboo -- Please don't Cc: me, I'm subscribed to the list.
Re: Ubuntu - change available screen resolutions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 06:29:15PM -0700, RobG wrote: > Hi, I have installed Ubuntu using VMWare Fusion beta on Mac OS X. > During installation, I accidentally didn't include the correct screen > resolutions and so only have the default 1024x786 and smaller. I have > a MacBook and also use an external monitor, so I need to include > 1280x1024 (external monitor) and 1280x800 (MacBook screen) in the > available set of resolutions. > > How can I change the list of screen resolutions available in System -> > Preferences -> Screen resolution? > > Also, please let me know if this is the appropriate place to ask such > questions. > You could try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Also, this isn't the right place to ask Ubuntu support questions; Ubuntu's forums[0] are generally where you go for Ubuntu support. [0]http://ubuntuforums.org/ - -- http://digital-haze.net/~pobega/ - My Website If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGUQEbg6qL2BGnx4QRAviCAJ45rvdw+Xo82DSyb5rbrX1QWsNs9QCgromU VXRWPh8XeyRR7jI8atV48Vw= =386K -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs and jed extremely slow
On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:32:09AM +0530, Deboo ^ wrote: > When I start emacs or jed at times, both of them pause for a long tiem > before starting up. This only happens sometimes. How can I dermine > what is the cause? > Do you have a low memory or slow machine? Do you have one or more filesystems mounted over a slow network? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
emacs and jed extremely slow
When I start emacs or jed at times, both of them pause for a long tiem before starting up. This only happens sometimes. How can I dermine what is the cause? Regards, Deboo -- Please don't Cc: me, I'm subscribed to the list. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ubuntu - change available screen resolutions
Hi, I have installed Ubuntu using VMWare Fusion beta on Mac OS X. During installation, I accidentally didn't include the correct screen resolutions and so only have the default 1024x786 and smaller. I have a MacBook and also use an external monitor, so I need to include 1280x1024 (external monitor) and 1280x800 (MacBook screen) in the available set of resolutions. How can I change the list of screen resolutions available in System -> Preferences -> Screen resolution? Also, please let me know if this is the appropriate place to ask such questions. -- Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel 2.6.18-4 and acpi
I tried disabling the onboard sound and the problem came back. Powered off and enabled it on the next boot. It was still there. Powered off and removed the sound card. Powered it back up and problem gone. It appears there is some problem with the motherboard. Thanks, John Marks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: getting a new Debian box
* Douglas Allan Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-20 17:42:56 -0400]: > No, but if it goes, it can take the whole thing with it. If it goes > slightly, its a PITA to track down. Why dither? Keep it cool. I've set a laptop in a refrigerator in order to get a critical backup off a failing drive. Cool works. Regards, Klein -- ... If people concentrated on the really important things in life, there'd be a shortage of fishing poles. -- Doug Larson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network interfaces fail to start on boot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:58:27PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: > hi all, > > I just installed Etch on a system with 3 network interfaces: eth0, > eth1, lo. all network interfaces are configured as auto in > /etc/network/interfaces. > > for some reason, the interfaces all fail to start on boot. I have to > manually run ifup -a for them to work. how can I fix this? > You can always do a dirty work-around, like "pre-up ifup -a" right after each interface, something like: auto eth2 iface eth2 inet dhcp wireless-key blahblahblah wireless-mode open pre-up ifup -a - -- http://digital-haze.net/~pobega/ - My Website If programmers deserve to be rewarded for creating innovative programs, by the same token they deserve to be punished if they restrict the use of these programs. - Richard Stallman -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGUPnEg6qL2BGnx4QRAvKxAJwPo60vmTSyecQK1yV88981/sq4zACeL15e ovvaC/z9Kz8Co0t7n6dPqJg= =jQzE -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT VPS Hosting
On 2007-05-20T19:59:16-0400, Allan Wind wrote: > On 2007-05-20T17:53:51-0500, Martin Kenneth Lopez wrote: > > [...] I'm looking now for a Virtual Private Server Hosting company > > does anyone know a good company that really works? Any help will be > > appreciated. > > I have been with rosehosting.com. I have been happy with them even. /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:42:56PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:35:27PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:00:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > Is the PSU really more failure prone than any other component? > > > > No, but if it goes, it can take the whole thing with it. If it goes > slightly, its a PITA to track down. Why dither? Keep it cool. > Makes sense. I do know that when I have had a PSU fail, it was really annoying to have to literally remove every single non-permanently attached piece from the case in order to get it out. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xorg cannot read V_BIOS Intel D945GTP + 2 video cards / a way out
*** 2) Downgrade to xorg 7.0 since this setup was working before I would not like to to this, but it's an option. My dual setup worked out of the box in a previous xorg version. I wonder how I could use an older xorg in Debian sid. Ok. A few hours and I got it. Let's reply myself in case someone has the same problem (and to avoid wasting someone else's time). The "nv" driver does not support dual head and it might never will. We have to wait for nouveau (http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/). http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=420537 The problem was not the upgraded xorg. When I previously had this setup, I had the privative nvidia driver (legacy version) managing my secondary video card. I lend that video card a few days to a friend, and when it came back I had changed the nvidia legacy driver (since I was trying compiz, which BTW, seems to be broken in Unstable right now). So I could not start the dual head setup again, and I couldn't use the new privative nvidia driver with my old card (NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x]). The "nv" driver doesn't know how to softboot this video card when it's a secondary video card. So, I was trying to use this setup: * NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE] (Primary in BIOS) (both nv/nvidia drivers) * NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (nv driver) And it seems it was never going to work. Now I have: * NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (Primary in BIOS) (nv driver) * NV44 [GeForce 6200 LE] (current nvidia drivers) And it works. Xinerama + Gnome again. No compiz, but I'd rather have dual head (with xinerama) than a 3d desktop. Here is the relevant data : Xorg configuration: http://www.pastebin.ca/499299 Xorg log: http://www.pastebin.ca/499301 *** 4) Do the int10 initialization myself with another program (or another kind of initialization). That was the privative nvidia driver. Let's way for nouveau. Regards, N.- -- http://arhuaco.org http://emQbit.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail vs maildrop (Found: excellent procmail HOWTO)
On May 20, 3:10 pm, Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > are there advantages . . . ? Like everything else, it depends on your situation. If you are a single user just trying to set up yourself on your own personal machine, it should be easy. I think I used this tutorial: http://www.linuxforums.org/applications/using_mutt_with_ssmtp,_getmail_and_maildrop.html I seem to recall a few good tutorials that I found by searching on "single-user, mutt, maildrop, getmail, etc." One in particular used getmail, maildrop, and exim4 and smarthost. Again just a single user arrangement and a pop and smtp isp mail box. rd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restarting proftpd
> Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k
> > restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command
> > for proftpd?
> Maybe /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
> I haven't installed it ATM
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> Tom
Thanks Tom, that works. When I start it, I get the following:
debian:/home/mark# /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
Stopping ftp server: proftpd.
Starting ftp server: proftpd - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'debian.example.com'
error: No address associated with hostname
I've always found the differences between host, hostname, localhost, ip
address, domain name on apache, etc, somewhat difficult to navigate.
There was nothing relating to this (address or hostname) in
the /etc/proftpd/proftpd.conf file.
I'm assuming there is something wrong with my /etc/hostname file, which
currently reads:
debian.example.com
This ("debian.example.com) was the suggestion I received from the
original set up of my system (that being Etch). Should I add something
to this file? An ip address or something?
Mark
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Re: Changing screens
On Sun, 20 May 2007, Mumia W.. wrote: On 05/20/2007 01:38 PM, Matthias Brennwald wrote: [...] Another option would be to have both "1440x1024" and "1280x1024" in the modes list and to use Control-Alt-Plus to switch between the modes. You can also use the ServerLayout option to choose an appropriate mode, see the man page for server configuration file (XF86Config-4 on sarge, xorg.conf on etch). Regards, Tad -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT VPS Hosting
On 2007-05-20T17:53:51-0500, Martin Kenneth Lopez wrote: > [...] I'm looking now for a Virtual Private Server Hosting company > does anyone know a good company that really works? Any help will be > appreciated. I have been with rosehosting.com. /Allan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: amarok / libgpod destroys iPod playlists
On Thursday 17 May 2007 06:56, Jörg Becker wrote: > Hello, > > I have a problem using my iPod with amarok from etch. Whenever I use the > iPod with amarok I loose the contents of all my iPod playlist except the > first one. I can see the playlists within the iPod, but they are empty. > > It seems to be a libgpod0 problem. When I use my iPod in the office (suse > 10.2, libgpod0.4.0) I did not have this problem. I used an ipod with amarok, and also with copying files over to it directly. Now it just shows the disk full icon when I turn it on. I have a testing/lenny system; I think this happened when testing was pre-etch. Right now I have ii libgpod-common0.4.2-0.1 ii libgpod0 0.4.0-0.3 ii libgpod1 0.4.2-0.1 > > I found packages for libgpod0.4.0 and libgpod0.4.2 in > unstable/experimental. But a 'sudo apt-get -s -t unstable install amarok' > shows, that many important packages will be upgraded or removed. So I > decided to backport > amarok/libgpod. > > Is there any advice how to build an amarok not destroying iPod playlists? > Is it possible to build libgpod0.4.2 from unstable without problems for > etch. Is it sufficient to rebuild amarok from etch sources with > libgpod0.4.2 or must I recompile some other things? Is it possible to > compile amarok 1.4.5 from unstable sources for etch (without recompiling > other kde parts)? > > Or much easier: Is there any other solution for my problem? Or has already > anybody a backported amarok/libgpod or is such one planed for > etch-backports in the near future? > > > Thanks, > > Jörg
Re: Kernel 2.6.18-4 and acpi
On Sunday 20 May 2007 11:48, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > John Marks wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > Thank you everyone. I am continuing to examine the problem. This had occurred to me when I first went to etch. I had two sound cards at the time. For some reason I thought that was the problem. I took out my card and went to the onboard alone and everything worked as it should. I just shut the machine down, replaced the card and restarted. So far all is well again. The load seems to be about where it should be. Applications are starting at normal speed, etc. I have not seen the acpi message about not being able to turn on the cooling device and the thermal module is loaded. John Marks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to connect to network
On Sunday 20 May 2007 16:49:46 Jeff D wrote: > On Sun, 20 May 2007, Pete wrote: > > Hi > > I have already posted this once but somehow managed to post into another > > thread so it probably got lost. > > > > Have just installed Etch with Netinstall. No problem. However Epiphany, > > Iceweasel and Apt all report that "network is unreachable" or "unable to > > connect to network". Network Setting shows quite clearly that eth0 > > is 'active'. Ping is positive. What am I missing? I have a wired > > connection to an adsl router. My laptop running Xubuntu works perfectly > > on the same connection. (not at the same time!) > > > > Thanks to Roberto I have tried /sbin/ifconfig and /sbin/route -n with the > > following results > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/ifconfig > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:30:18:A9:C4:3B > > inet addr:192.168.1.3 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 > > inet6 addr: fe80::230:18ff:fea9:c43b/64 Scope:Link > > UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 > > RX packets:5 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:30 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 > > RX bytes:1890 (1.8 KiB) TX bytes:4453 (4.3 KiB) > > Interrupt:177 > > > > lo Link encap:Local Loopback > > inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 > > inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host > > UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 > > RX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 > > TX packets:8 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > > collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 > > RX bytes:560 (560.0 b) TX bytes:560 (560.0 b) > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /sbin/route -n > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use > > Iface 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 > > 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 > > 0 eth0 > > > > Since my first posting I have now installed Xubuntu on a separate > > partition on this machine and it works perfectly. > > > > Any help or comments welcome please. > > > > Regards > > Pete Redwood > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > how are you getting your IP address? static? dhcp? Does your laptop and > this machine share the same ip? does name resolution work? Just had another thought on this, following another thread. Tried 'ifup -a' to see what would happen. Came back 'ifup command unknown'. I have tried both the CD iso image and netinstall iso image and network fails to work with either installation but both access network during installation. Surely ifup should be installed by default. I will try to download it from Xubuntu and shunt it onto the other hard drive and try and install it that way and see what happens. -- Regards Pete Redwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 01:10 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 07:33:51PM EDT, Owen Heisler wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-05-19 at 19:10 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > On Fri, 2007-05-18 at 00:10 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 18:34 -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 16:02 -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > > > > http://www.gregfolkert.net/info/vesa-display-codes.html > > > > > > > > > > Very helpful! Although no 1280x960 (grr) unfortunately. Is there any > > > > > way to get that? > > > > > > > > vbetool is supposed to do it. > > > > > > > > Or "hwinfo --vbe" > > > > > > > > But they aren't exactly 100%, as I haven't been able to get the info out > > > > of the hardware yet. > > > > > > FYI, I've updated the page and now lists a few things to get other > > > modes. Though the framebuffer howtos have not really been updated since > > > 2000 or 2001. > > > > video=<>:xres:<>,yres:<>,depth:<>,left:<>,right:<>,hslen:<>,upper:<>,lower:<>,vslen:<> > > > > It looks like I need something like this: > > Modeline "1280x1024" DCF HR SH1 SH2 HFL VR SV1 SV2 VFL > > > > Is there some way to get that from xorg? > > Oh .. maybe, > > $ modeline2fb > > Same fbset package as the other stuff previously mentioned. A list of the available video drivers here (?): http://linux-fbdev.sourceforge.net/driverlist.php I tried: video=rivafb:1280x960 video=vesafb:1280x960 but neither worked. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: OT VPS Hosting
I've been using http://www.vpslink.com/ for the last month. Only complaint I had is that their Debian installs are set to pull down 'stable' or 'testing' (instead of 'sarge', 'etch', etc). So choosing Sarge will get you Etch, choosing Etch will get you Lenny. I signed up for their plan labeled Etch on the day Etch was released which got me an instantly hosed system. It was easy enough to reinstall their Sarge labeled system (which was set to bring down stable, which wound up being Etch) Other than that minor confusion, it's been great. -- Chris Martin Web Developer Open Source & Web Standards Advocate http://www.chriscodes.com/ On 5/20/07, Martin Kenneth Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Everyone, I have an off topic question, I hope that someone help me, I bought a hosting plan with Dreamhost but is just simply anything but a hosting company I have like a day of downtime each week, is horrible that's why I'm looking now for a Virtual Private Server Hosting company does anyone know a good company that really works? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- << Martin Kenneth Lopez-=|Big_Bang|=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux User:392011 http://kenneth.tektonlabs.com Tekton Labs << -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT VPS Hosting
budgetdedicated.com They have a very good service. If you, want then give you a test vps server for a week (the are a lot of images availables). I tested one and I bought the service. Regards On Monday 21 May 2007 00:53, Martin Kenneth Lopez wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I have an off topic question, I hope that someone help me, I bought a > hosting plan with Dreamhost but is just simply anything but a > hosting company I have like a day of downtime each week, is horrible > that's why I'm looking now for a Virtual Private Server Hosting company > does anyone know a good company that really works? Any help will be > appreciated. > Thanks in advance. > > -- > << > Martin Kenneth Lopez-=|Big_Bang|=- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] GNU/Linux User:392011 > http://kenneth.tektonlabs.com Tekton Labs > << -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Really slow xterm
Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-05-17 11:03:57 -, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>> For "large" scrollbacks, e.g., more than 10,000 lines,
>> xterm has its own problems.
> Hmm... yes. I've tried with xterm using a 20,000-line scrollback,
> and zsh:
> for i in {1..3}; echo $i
> On my 400 Mhz PowerBook G4, Debian/testing, XTerm 225: 71 seconds
> (but only 6 seconds with a 600-line scrollback).
> With rxvt (and a 20,000-line scrollback): 17 seconds.
That contrast looks about right - for an xterm running on the same machine
as the server (which is the most common case for Linux users). It's
an ugly slice of code to rewrite in xterm, but is fixable (preferably
_not_ when I'm trying to fix urgent bugs ;-).
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OT VPS Hosting
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Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 17:25 -0400, cga2000 wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 12:01:18PM EDT, Greg Folkert wrote: > > Mind if I add snippets of you two posts to Owen to that Vesa Mode Page? > > Not in principle naturally. [snip] > Oh, if you do decide to add something to your web page, please let me > know and I'll be glad to take a look. I'll just pass then. -- greg, [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key: 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C Alternate Fingerprint: 09F9 1102 9D74 E35B D841 56C5 6356 88C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2007 #1580
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 20 May 2007, Klein Moebius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Evil scum. The gauntlet is down, then. Any luck on TuxMobil? I will try there with my continued wireless problems. If I hand code the /etc/network/interfaces file, everything works. If I try to use Kwlan, Kwirelessnetworkmanager or the other front-ends, it will not connect no matter what I do. Argh! - -- September 11th, 2001 The proudest day for gun control and central planning advocates in American history -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBRlDJCy9Y35yItIgBAQKEHwf9EdmkNAo8tAmS3Sx8yBkiQgZ+uQvfoTZj dXly3+VHsNWRNxYDze73oQf4hqjIDz+j9lStO4BxfmkWTpqaZHlL0asd/1MqnAOr xUIcjqyYm9wkhL7h4k5vFPgDk1h9mj3xqbw8Obq7/6IY7XIvFvJk9S8P1dO5ZMEE ZfaIAuUk1iX/dKZ3RpD+qznqr7875UH2ZwCukgANQbQD5zumZi65NsafoSe1RBmY g/AT3jX9o3hXsh0vVw5S+O5Q4p0sndH5FeJmB4s1ycTQQcNdUaqzFAYxa7QAXY62 uupATSWafM590Z1CHCtJ5PcESNctai7YNHIzsdEciyx8s2sH/TzEJw== =yPfU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Fothergill wrote: > There were some references to running qemu on AMD64 but mostly indirect ones. > > Has anyone tried this? Yes, works just fine. > At a dumb level, is qemu smart enough to "fake" the 32 bit environment on my > 64 bit box running Debian AMD64 OS that MS Windows 98 would be happy to run > on or would it only let you run a 64 bit version of MSWindows on a 64 bit > machine like mine? AMD64 is an extension of i386 architecture, not a completely different architecture. To put it short i386 + new features = AMD64. So if the OS is a i386 32-bit one, it will simply not use the new features, but will work just fine. Also, QEMU emulates a 32-bit i386 system by default, even on AMD64. > (In Debian I will just install the qemu package with synaptic). Yes. [...] > Would these commands work OK in the AMD64 world? Yes. The same as on i386. > Your comments on the merits of qemuctl and qemu-launcher would be appreciated. "qemu-launcher" will give you a user friendly GUI for configuring all the options, and do other useful things, and "qemuctl" is a plug-in for "qemu-launcher" that provides a GUI for controlling some run-time options. Grab both. If you will run "qemu-launcher" from the terminal, it will output the command line needed to run the QEMU with the chosen options, so it is also useful for learning. If you have any questions or suggestions regarding "qemu-launcher", do not hesitate to contact me on-list or privately. I like email. :) Owen Heisler wrote: > The kqemu-source package is in Debian. > (in non-free for etch, otherwise in main) > > Just install the kqemu-source package and run "m-a a-i kqemu" Also on AMD64 system, you should check if your CPU supports hardware virtualization (run "egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo" and see if anything shows up). If so, you could try using "kvm", which may be faster than "kqemu". Regards, Linas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGUMg8ztOe9mov/y4RAhfkAKCL214deBrRJ2rqIOWMWWxOEY6DhACfXR+U rxnUqj+lFNJ8Lrycx7fnoTk= =SDZK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: network interfaces fail to start on boot
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:58:27PM +0200, David Fuchs wrote: > hi all, > > I just installed Etch on a system with 3 network interfaces: eth0, > eth1, lo. all network interfaces are configured as auto in > /etc/network/interfaces. > > for some reason, the interfaces all fail to start on boot. I have to > manually run ifup -a for them to work. how can I fix this? Can you please post your /etc/network/interfaces and the output of 'dmesg | grep eth0' > another nuisance: every 20 minutes, some process prints "-- MARK --" > to the console. I've never seen this before on any system - what is > this about? That's strange. I know syslog prints this in /var/log/syslog if there's nothing (notable) happening on your computer, but it shouldn't go to the console. Did you change anything from the default setup? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
network interfaces fail to start on boot
hi all, I just installed Etch on a system with 3 network interfaces: eth0, eth1, lo. all network interfaces are configured as auto in /etc/network/interfaces. for some reason, the interfaces all fail to start on boot. I have to manually run ifup -a for them to work. how can I fix this? another nuisance: every 20 minutes, some process prints "-- MARK --" to the console. I've never seen this before on any system - what is this about? thanks, - Dave. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HOWTO:2.6.20-1-k7 + nvidia
Because of the many questions how has this package been built and what it does exactly I have written a small page that clarifies this. Its location is : http://grizach.servebeer.com/nvpatch/ http://grizach.servebeer.com/nvpatch/ Julian -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/HOWTO%3A2.6.20-1-k7-%2B-nvidia-tf3679809.html#a10710574 Sent from the Debian User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Unable to connect to network
On Sunday 20 May 2007 19:56:47 H.S. wrote: > Pete wrote: > > DHCP. Laptop has its own IP address. No idea about name resolution. Not > > certain how to check it > > What is the output of the following commands: > > $> ping 4.2.2.2 > > $> ping google.com > > $> ping > > > ->HS Curiouser and curiouser. My router is set up with the following (from my IP's instructions) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Password= IP Address=82.138.204.44 If I ping 'phone.coop' I get [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c5 phone.coop PING phone.coop (1.0.0.0) 56(84) bytes of data. From v100 (213.160.96.53) icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable From v100 (213.160.96.53) icmp_seq=2 Destination Net Unreachable From v100 (213.160.96.53) icmp_seq=3 Destination Net Unreachable From v100 (213.160.96.53) icmp_seq=4 Destination Net Unreachable From v100 (213.160.96.53) icmp_seq=5 Destination Net Unreachable --- phone.coop ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, +5 errors, 100% packet loss, time 4001ms If I ping the IP address I get: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c5 82.138.204.44 PING 82.138.204.44 (82.138.204.44) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=3.02 ms 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.688 ms 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.676 ms 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=0.681 ms 64 bytes from 82.138.204.44: icmp_seq=5 ttl=255 time=0.672 ms --- 82.138.204.44 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 3999ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.672/1.148/3.023/0.937 ms The result is exactly the same on this partition (Xubuntu, which is working) and the other one (Debian, which isn't). Not certain what it proves other than neither system recognises the name of the IP. Pinging google.com gives the expected result: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ping -c 5 google.com PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=241 time=151 ms 64 bytes from google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=2 ttl=241 time=147 ms. Following Jeff D's advice /etc/resolv.conf # generated by NetworkManager, do not edit! nameserver 192.168.1.1 The result is the same for both systems. Haven't tried laptop but it should give 'nameserver 192.168.1.2' -- Regards Pete Redwood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sunday 20 May 2007, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic > >> discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for > >> "off-topic" messages. For the messages to be "social lubricant", > >> they need to be *interspersed* with the on-topic discussions in a > >> way that doesn't detract from the discussions. > >> > >> If the volume of messages in an off-topic thread is large enough > >> that an entire separate list is being considered, the off-topic > >> diversion is already beyond the level Joey describes as "social > >> lubricant" and into the level of disruptive noise. > > > > So people who "know" each other for years on this list are > > condemned to keep discussions (mostly) on-topic or leave the forum? > > How is this benefic to the community? > > Especially when you take a look at the archives and notice that some > of those protesting the most contribute very little technically, > while those they complain about post very useful information - after > looking through Roberto's posts, I conclude that anybody who > killfiles him is simply an idiot (and that the person who recently > said he was doing so - not naming any names - hasn't posted an answer > to a substantive question in at least 3 months). Said person has been trying to get a business back together after dealing with a long illness and death of his Father. Do you want to make any more judgements about me without knowing what is going on in my life? Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sunday 20 May 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:58:37PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Sunday 20 May 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > It would be helpful if that code of conduct had its own page and > > > be enumerated so that it could be referred to directly when we > > > try to self-regulate. Eg: "Yoh WhatsYourName, this topic, while > > > interesting in a general sense, is rather OT. Please take it off > > > list, per the list code of conduct item 13 at > > > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/CodeOfConduct#13."; > > > > This is different and it's close to what I mentioned earlier and I > > think may have been mentioned before. It combines several > > possibilities, but it, unfortunately, puts some more work on the > > list moderators. > > I'm not suggesting list moderators. We as the Debian-User community, > if there's a clear policy document, can self-regulate and remind each > other of the policy as needed. I'd be okay with that, but just in a short sampling I've seen people that don't respond to other users. How are such people handled? Or maybe when they refuse to respond to the community as a whole, that's when the moderators would step in? I don't know if moderator is the right term, but I know there are people who police this list, or who can. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:35:27PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:00:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > Is the PSU really more failure prone than any other component? > No, but if it goes, it can take the whole thing with it. If it goes slightly, its a PITA to track down. Why dither? Keep it cool. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:34:55PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:34:50PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > > > This type of guideline means a whole heck of a lot more than large > > sweeping corrections. Plus, we do need someone to thwack the > > responder(s) from time to time. Many could do this, specifically and > > privately over private e-mail. > > > > For us to constistanty thwack each other fairly, we need a clear policy > document. > Yes, but just don't *ask* for such a policy. http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg02975.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/05/msg02979.html It will likely earn you the ire of some people. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[OT] Re: installing tutos2
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:03:49PM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > This abowe is in Hungarian. > > I can't remember how can I set the LANG environment variable for a > command to show up messages in English? > I have this on my system: $ cat /etc/default/locale # File generated by update-locale LANG=en_US Perhaps you could try running update-locale on your system and then posting the output again? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:00:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > My _first_ consideration (other than not going bankrupt) was longevity, > > hense the huge case, PSU in bottom bay, and lots of fans. Good reliable > > fans also seem to be quieter than cheap unreliable ones. > > why PSU in the bottom bay? Does that not force more heat into the rest > of the box? or is it to keep the PSU , a very failure prone item, > cooler and thus longer lived? just curious. > The PSU stays cooler. It doesn't force heat into the rest of the box since the PSU fan blows air out. To clear out heat in the top of the case, I have two 80 mm fans in the upper bay where a PSU often is. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:00:23PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > > My _first_ consideration (other than not going bankrupt) was longevity, > > hense the huge case, PSU in bottom bay, and lots of fans. Good reliable > > fans also seem to be quieter than cheap unreliable ones. > > why PSU in the bottom bay? Does that not force more heat into the rest > of the box? or is it to keep the PSU , a very failure prone item, > cooler and thus longer lived? just curious. > Is the PSU really more failure prone than any other component? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (OT) Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:34:50PM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: > This type of guideline means a whole heck of a lot more than large > sweeping corrections. Plus, we do need someone to thwack the > responder(s) from time to time. Many could do this, specifically and > privately over private e-mail. > For us to constistanty thwack each other fairly, we need a clear policy document. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for "off-topic" messages. For the messages to be "social lubricant", they need to be *interspersed* with the on-topic discussions in a way that doesn't detract from the discussions. If the volume of messages in an off-topic thread is large enough that an entire separate list is being considered, the off-topic diversion is already beyond the level Joey describes as "social lubricant" and into the level of disruptive noise. So people who "know" each other for years on this list are condemned to keep discussions (mostly) on-topic or leave the forum? How is this benefic to the community? Especially when you take a look at the archives and notice that some of those protesting the most contribute very little technically, while those they complain about post very useful information - after looking through Roberto's posts, I conclude that anybody who killfiles him is simply an idiot (and that the person who recently said he was doing so - not naming any names - hasn't posted an answer to a substantive question in at least 3 months). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:58:37PM -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Sunday 20 May 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > > It would be helpful if that code of conduct had its own page and be > > enumerated so that it could be referred to directly when we try to > > self-regulate. Eg: "Yoh WhatsYourName, this topic, while interesting > > in a general sense, is rather OT. Please take it off list, per the > > list code of conduct item 13 at > > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/CodeOfConduct#13."; > > This is different and it's close to what I mentioned earlier and I think > may have been mentioned before. It combines several possibilities, but > it, unfortunately, puts some more work on the list moderators. > I'm not suggesting list moderators. We as the Debian-User community, if there's a clear policy document, can self-regulate and remind each other of the policy as needed. Doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't find cable Internet Connection
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:28:22PM -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote: > Andrei Popescu said: > < please post the output of runing 'dhclient' as root. > > I got the following (replacing the IP numbers with x): [snip > I can now connect to the Internet successfully. What changes should I > make in my init files to start dhclient at boot time? I would try following steps: 1. comment out (put a # in front) of unnecessary lines in /etc/network/interfaces (although I'm not sure they influence anything). auto lo iface lo inet loopback #mapping eth0 # script grep # map eth0 allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp 2. If 1. doesn't work then go for Florian Kulzer's suggestion and comment out 'allow-hotplug eth0' and add 'auto eth0' Note: commenting unnecessary lines is safer than just deleting them as you can always remove the # if anything goes wrong. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: vesa display codes (Etch Xorg memory leak?)
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 12:01:18PM EDT, Greg Folkert wrote: [..} > Mind if I add snippets of you two posts to Owen to that Vesa Mode Page? Not in principle naturally. Just that I'd be a little concerned about the contents of my posts possibly misleading others .. A clear case of I don't understand it well enough to explain it .. to paraphrase A. Einstein, I think. I wish I had more solid knowledge of these aspects. Obviously, since I have not one but two systems that work flawlessly with the atyfb driver and a mach64, albeit somewhat differently (see below) .. I am in a good position to provide you with any files on my system that you think might be of interest. In any event, I should probably mention one other thing that I have read/heard on the subject, which is that if both vesa and the native driver are enabled in your kernel config, the native driver wins. This may be useful since grub lets you easily change your boot options on the fly .. eg. to recover from a messed up situation. Also, I am currently setting up an etch system on the same laptop and after my posting late last night, I noticed that my grub menu entries for the etch system do not specify anything regarding the fb console at all..! No video=atyfb or specifying the dimensions of my display in pixels. And yet, the laptop boots by default into its native 1400x1050 mode. No artifacts .. a perfect display as on a bran new high-end hardware terminal. This, btw is with the more recent 2.6.20 kernel (I typically run sarge with a 2.4.27 custom kernel). I also vaguely remember that, much to my delight, the 1400x1050 mode was already defined in the source file that contains all the modelines. But I had to compile custom kernels over and over for a number of other reasons .. so I'm not sure any more whether the kernel config I started off with had "ati" support enabled by default or if I had to enable it myself. The former, I think. Rather revealing of the maturity of the atyfb driver..! I requested from the ubuntu folks that they add this mode to their live system cd at least .. and possibly the installer .. to no avail .. that was about two years ago. Do you have access to a system where you could run some tests with possibly another video card than my old mach64..? I was thinking if you had some hands-on experience of this not so well documented area .. it might help clarify the process .. correct possible errors and omissions on my part .. make sure there is no miscommunication .. as well as .. if you are successful .. being able to add at least one video card to your database of video cards that we know for a fact are fully supported by a "native" driver. I should also add that from the user angle the results in my case were well worth the effort since the only (major where I am concerned) visual difference between my linux console and a full-screen xterm on my etch system is the fact that the linux console is limited to 16 colors rather than xterm's 256. Unfortunately, although I have fiddled with a couple of programs that let you dump an fb console to a file I have not been successful and so I do not have screenshots to prove it. Sorry about the vagueness/verbosity of the above but that's just about all I have been able to figure out so far. If I understood the fb console a bit better, I would be a lot more terse and I might consider updating that obsolete Framebuffer Console HOWTO. Regrettably, I have never had the time to work and play with the code of at least my own video card's driver. Oh, if you do decide to add something to your web page, please let me know and I'll be glad to take a look. Thanks, cga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing screens
On 05/20/2007 03:34 PM, Matthias Brennwald wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option would be to have both "1440x1024" and "1280x1024" in the modes list What would this look like? Two 'Modes' lines? Or one line with two entries? How are they separated (space, comma, whatever)? They're on the same line separated by spaces: Modes "1280x1024" "1440x1024" and to use Control-Alt-Plus to switch between the modes. Control-Alt-Plus changes the font size in my mailtool... Matthias I meant to use the keypad plus :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing tutos2
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:44:57PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 06:49:07PM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > > > My /etc/postgresql/7.4/main/pg_hba.conf on my Debian Etch has the > > following lines enabled: > > > > -> > > local all postgres ident sameuser > > local all all ident sameuser > > host all all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 md5 > > host all all ::1 ::::::: md5 > > -< > > > > I can to do the following on xterm window: > > > > $ sudo su - postgres > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > > > There I can to connect to the template1 database out there, or can > > create new users. > > > > But when I try to install tutos2 then get the abowe wroted errors. Why? > > Biang installing tutos2 I have to add password for postgres user; there > > I add the root password of my Debian system out there. Is it right? > > > The postgres user should not have a password! > > Please post what shows up in the postgres logs when you try and install > tutos2. To do this, open up a terminal window and run `sudo tail -f > /var/log/postgresql/postgres.log` and then run the installation of > tutos2. Post what shows up in the postgres log here. --> $ sudo tail -f /var/log/postgresql/postgresql-7.4-main.log 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: az adatbáziskezelő rendszer a(z) 2007-05-20 17:40:57 CEST időpontban leállítva 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: ellenőrzőpont-bejegyzés a(z) (0, 9CD7F8) pozíciónál 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: redo-bejegyzés a(z) (0, 9CD7F8) pozíciónál; undo-bejegyzés a(z) (0, 0) pozíciónál; leállítás TRUE 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: next transaction ID: 578; next OID: 17144 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: az adatbáziskezelő munkára kész 2007-05-20 17:40:59 LOG: az induló csomag nem teljes 2007-05-20 17:51:16 FATAL: database "postgres" does not exist 2007-05-20 18:02:54 ERROR: zero-length delimited identifier at or near at character 30 2007-05-20 18:39:16 ERROR: current user cannot be dropped 2007-05-20 18:39:26 FATAL: a(z) "root" felhasználó nem létezik --< This abowe is in Hungarian. I can't remember how can I set the LANG environment variable for a command to show up messages in English? -- Regards, Paul Csányi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working on Mac PowerBook G4
Hi On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 08:43:44PM +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: > Dear all > > sound output is not working on my PowerBook G4 with Debian Etch. During boot > I can see a message flashing by, saying something along the lines > that snd_powermac encountered an error -12. Any hints or ideas? It's hard to tell, because you didn't tell us the exact powerbook model, but I suspect that you should use snd-aoa instead of snd_powermac. Try loading "snd-aoa-i2sbus". If snd-aoa does not work either, please post the content of /proc/cpuinfo. BTW AFAIK there is no powerbook with a sound card on the PCI bus. So the output of lspci is irrelevant. Don't bother if it does not contain a sound device. Gaudenz -- Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better. ~ Samuel Beckett ~ pgpEkGMQP00gC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:02:29PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > > My _first_ consideration (other than not going bankrupt) was longevity, > hense the huge case, PSU in bottom bay, and lots of fans. Good reliable > fans also seem to be quieter than cheap unreliable ones. why PSU in the bottom bay? Does that not force more heat into the rest of the box? or is it to keep the PSU , a very failure prone item, cooler and thus longer lived? just curious. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Changing screens
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 10:34:07PM +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >Another option would be to have both "1440x1024" and "1280x1024" in the > >modes list > > What would this look like? Two 'Modes' lines? Or one line with two > entries? How are they separated (space, comma, whatever)? > > >and to use Control-Alt-Plus to switch between the modes. > > Control-Alt-Plus changes the font size in my mailtool... keypad plus, or change focus away from your mua A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
installing grub-pc
Hello, list. I have attempted to install the new grub-pc on to my lappy, running Sid. However, what comes up during boot is the legacy grub. I assume that I need to do a grub-install hd0,1 (the boot partition is on hda1), but I want to make sure I'm right before I bork my system. There is currently an option to chainload in to grub2, but it claims that the file core.img doesn't exist, which is uttur rubbish. My search for Debian-specific documentation has been fruitless, so any aid will be much appriciated. Thanks. -- —A watched bread-crumb never boils. —My hover-craft is full of eels. —[...]and that's the he and the she of it.
Re: Changing screens
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 08:38:25PM +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote: > Dear all > > I've got a laptop (Apple PowerBook G4) that I use both at home and on > the road (with Debian Etch installed). At home, the laptop is connected > to an external screen, with the laptop closed (so, at home, I don't use > the laptops own screen). The two screens have different resolutions > (laptop screen: 1440 x 1024, external screen at home: 1280 x 1024). > > The problem is that Debian uses the same screen resolution for both > screens, wich I find annoying (it uses 1440 x 1024, which means that the > image is larger than what fits on my external screen). How can I make > Debain use the appropriate screen size? Do I have to set it manually or > is there a way to adjust the screen size automatically? > If there is some surefire way to tell which monitor is connected, then it should be a simple matter to restart X with a script that checks which monitor you're using and points to the appropriate xorg.conf (or even changes the file directly (not recommened)). If monitor detection is not really possible (I personally wouldn't know how to do it) then a simple script could be used to change a symlink to point to the appropriate xorg.conf. then an /etc/init.d/*dm restart would fix you right up. there are many solutions but essentially you have to set up some situation where you can put different xorg.conf's in place as needed. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: procmail vs maildrop (Found: excellent procmail HOWTO)
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:06:05PM -0500, Owen Heisler wrote: > On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 11:11 -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > > I found a good HOWTO also. It said use getmail and maildrop instead of > > fetchmail and procmail. :) I spent a whole day trying to get procmail > > to work, then gave up and set up maildrop in half an hour. > > I switched to getmail from fetchmail already. Are there any advantages > of maildrop over procmail? Is there a good reason for me to, perhaps, > try maildrop instead (I've already set up procmail)? Personally, I like the mailfilter syntax better. I think that procmailrc syntax is more flexible, but I find the mailfilter simplicity more approachable. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Changing screens
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another option would be to have both "1440x1024" and "1280x1024" in the modes list What would this look like? Two 'Modes' lines? Or one line with two entries? How are they separated (space, comma, whatever)? and to use Control-Alt-Plus to switch between the modes. Control-Alt-Plus changes the font size in my mailtool... Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Re: Sound not working on Mac PowerBook G4
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 20:43:44 +0200, Matthias Brennwald wrote:
> Dear all
>
> sound output is not working on my PowerBook G4 with Debian Etch. During
> boot I can see a message flashing by, saying something along the lines that
> snd_powermac encountered an error -12. Any hints or ideas?
Hi again,
It would be better to know the exact message. Try
dmesg | grep snd
right after boot.
Also post the output of:
lsmod | grep snd
lspci | egrep -i 'audio|media|sound'
("lsmod" lists all loaded modules/drivers and "lspci" lists your cards
and other hardware on the PCI bus.)
--
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Re: Mounting network shares under home?
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:28:25PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:46:51PM -0400, Eric A. Bonney wrote: > > > Is it possible to mount network shares so that they will show up under > > > each users /home? It seems alot of programs only will look at files > > > under various folders in the file system and not look at network > > > drives. It would be easier if the shares were located where all these > > > programs could see them. > > On 18.05.07 21:55, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Depending on your configuration (more details would be helpful), you > > have a few options: > > > > - automount the various directories that your users need > > - hard mount them somewhere and use symlinks > > - hard mount them somehwere and then bind mount them other places > > can't pam_mount do the thing? > You are right. I forgot about pam_mount. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing tutos2
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 06:49:07PM +0200, csanyipal wrote: > > My /etc/postgresql/7.4/main/pg_hba.conf on my Debian Etch has the > following lines enabled: > > -> > local all postgres ident sameuser > local all all ident sameuser > host all all 127.0.0.1 255.255.255.255 md5 > host all all ::1 ::::::: md5 > -< > > I can to do the following on xterm window: > > $ sudo su - postgres > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > > There I can to connect to the template1 database out there, or can > create new users. > > But when I try to install tutos2 then get the abowe wroted errors. Why? > Biang installing tutos2 I have to add password for postgres user; there > I add the root password of my Debian system out there. Is it right? > The postgres user should not have a password! Please post what shows up in the postgres logs when you try and install tutos2. To do this, open up a terminal window and run `sudo tail -f /var/log/postgresql/postgres.log` and then run the installation of tutos2. Post what shows up in the postgres log here. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: matlab r2007a installation problems
Hardestadt wrote: > > Hi! I have a problem when i try to install matlab r2007a on my debian > etch. > > When i execute the installation scipt, i get the following error: > > An error status was returned by the program 'xsetup', > the X Window System version of 'install'. The following > messages were written to standard error: > > /home/ferran/matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: error while loading > shared libraries: > /home/ferran/matlab/update/bin/glnx86/libmwins.so: invalid ELF > header The problem seems to be that your installation source got corrupted somehow (libmwins.so has an invalid header). -- Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: getting a new Debian box
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:07:33PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 05/19/07 08:05, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > [snip] > > I only make a computer every 10 years or so. I went a little > > bleeding-edge at the time, and got a huge CM-Stacker case with all the > > extra fans, 600W PSU, two drives for raid1 and Athlon64 CPU. Cost $1K > > Sounds pretty noisy. > Actually, very quiet. I let the MB handle the fan speed on the cross-flow (1"x12" squirl-cage), CPU, 80 mm blowhole, and two 80 mm fans in the upper PSU bay. The CM iGreen 600W PSU is in the lower bay with its big quiet fan. The front of the case is made up of 4-in-3 modules each with a 120mm quiet fan powered by a drive molux. My GPU is fanless and the M2N-SLI Deluxe MB has no fan other than the CPU. The CPU fan is the only one I hear (high pitch directional) but I don't want to void the AMD CPU warranty by using an after-market fan. The only time I really hear the fans is on start up when everything goes to high speed. Otherwise, everything's on low speed with case temp == ambient and CPU and GPU temp at 40 C. My _first_ consideration (other than not going bankrupt) was longevity, hense the huge case, PSU in bottom bay, and lots of fans. Good reliable fans also seem to be quieter than cheap unreliable ones. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restarting proftpd
Mark Grieveson wrote: > Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k > restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command > for proftpd? Usually, to restart services, you should do: invoke-rc.d restart So in this case it should be "invoke-rc.d proftpd restart" -- Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 20:30 +0200, Michael G. Hansen wrote: > KQemu used to be proprietary and was thus not in Debian. But as of > version 1.3.0-pre11 it is under the GPL and it is in lenny/sid. You can > also grab it from http://www.qemu.org There is a binary in the package > and a wrapper around it which has to be compiled so it matches your > kernel. I don't know how to do that the debian-way though, so you might > want to ask others on this list :-) The kqemu-source package is in Debian. (in non-free for etch, otherwise in main) Just install the kqemu-source package and run "m-a a-i kqemu" signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[OT] Re: restarting proftpd
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 15:39:38 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k > restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command > for proftpd? /etc/init.d/proftpd restart or invoke-rc.d proftpd restart should work. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: procmail vs maildrop (Found: excellent procmail HOWTO)
On Sun, 2007-05-20 at 11:11 -0700, BartlebyScrivener wrote: > I found a good HOWTO also. It said use getmail and maildrop instead of > fetchmail and procmail. :) I spent a whole day trying to get procmail > to work, then gave up and set up maildrop in half an hour. I switched to getmail from fetchmail already. Are there any advantages of maildrop over procmail? Is there a good reason for me to, perhaps, try maildrop instead (I've already set up procmail)? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT] Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 18:48:02 +, David Dawson wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:08:03 +, David Dawson wrote: > >> Florian Kulzer wrote: > > That looks normal to me. You probably already tried running kcontrol > > from a terminal window and checking for error messages. Another thing > Thanks! > I'm not exactly a newbie, but as I do most things in a shell, I usually > don't have occasion to delve into the desktop settings. > This is what I got: > kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! > Defaulting to Settings/ > > I see that something is missing, probably from an rc file, so which one? > (I suspect I could tweak it by hand) > > look at is ~/.xsession-errors after you have started kcontrol. It seems that there is a related bug report http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=397057 which mentions a workaround. As far as I can tell, you have to remove and purge kdebase-data and then reinstall it. The whole problem seems to be caused by the absence of the file /etc/xdg/menus/applications-merged/kde-essential.menu -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restarting proftpd
Yep, /etc/init.d/proftpd restart works Regards, Ben Tom Rauchenwald wrote: Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command for proftpd? Maybe /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I haven't installed it ATM Thanks, Mark Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Aptitude, upgrade and pinning
On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 07:08:35AM +0200, Mauro Sacchetto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Daniel Burrows wrote: > > Could you quote what aptitude actually output? > > debian:~# aptitude install -f kde/unstable > Lettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto > Generazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto > Lettura delle informazioni sullo stato esteso > Inizializzazione dello stato dei pacchetti... Fatto > Lettura delle descrizioni dei task... Fatto > Costruzione del database dei tag... Fatto > I seguenti pacchetti sono stati bloccati: > k3b libk3b3 > 0 pacchetti aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 2 non aggiornati. > È necessario prelevare 0B di archivi. Dopo l'estrazione, verranno occupati > 0B. > Scrittura delle informazioni sullo stato esteso... Fatto > > That means that aptitude, in this case, doesn't find > the unstable version of KDE and know only that K3b > packages are blocked. Whoops, lost this email. The problem is that kde in unstable is the same version as kde in etch, so there is nothing to be done; you already have the unstable version of k3b. It could upgrade k3b, but you haven't asked it to. (try "aptitude install k3b") Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sunday 20 May 2007, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:51:08AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > This particular problem is solved for the most part by a policy > > change that says non-Debian topics are inappropriate. This opens > > the door to various actions starting with "this is not appropriate, > > please stop" in the event that fox news junkies again start braying > > their ignorance here. This simple and often effective remedy is > > currently denied us because there is as yet no such policy. > > What if we, the list users, could agree on a policy change that then > the list maintainers could take under advisement. There is already a > bit of a policy in the code of conduct at: > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists > > It would be helpful if that code of conduct had its own page and be > enumerated so that it could be referred to directly when we try to > self-regulate. Eg: "Yoh WhatsYourName, this topic, while interesting > in a general sense, is rather OT. Please take it off list, per the > list code of conduct item 13 at > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/CodeOfConduct#13."; This is different and it's close to what I mentioned earlier and I think may have been mentioned before. It combines several possibilities, but it, unfortunately, puts some more work on the list moderators. Before I say this, the only time I've ever seen moderator action (and remember, I don't watch ever thread on here) was within the past year when a topic included criticizing the monitors. Instead of completely censoring the posts, they delayed any on that thread for 24 hours. I think it stopped rather quickly under the charge of censorship and other issues. Still, that does point out a possible option. If there were a Debian-OT list, then when things start to stray too far, there would be a couple options to moderators. When a thread, or a branch of a thread, starts to go too far off topic, the moderator could make 1 of two choices: 1) Delay the posts for 24 hours to slow it down, or 2) automatically shunt the posts to the OT group. Of course, both would be after a warning. When a discussion starts veering into, say, politics, then the moderator could warn and say, "This is going too far OT for too long. Please either take it to the OT list or to a private discussion before action is needed." If that doesn't work, then all future posts by that poster or on that thread or whichever is the worst issue, would be redirected to the OT list. I think this would take a significant amount of work over the next 6 weeks, but once people got used to it, I think it would be smoother. If people wanted to discuss other topics, they could just redirect their responses to OT. There would be no censorship, those who want to participate can do so, and those that don't won't have to. Since peer pressure has been shown to be ineffective in some cases and some people don't self-police, then this seems to be the solution with the least interference to effect a change, or, as Asimov said, the smallest change to produce the greatest effect. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: restarting proftpd
Mark Grieveson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k > restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command > for proftpd? Maybe /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I haven't installed it ATM > Thanks, > Mark Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
restarting proftpd
Hello. To restart apache2, I simply use the command "apache2 -k restart", which works nicely. Does anyone know of a similar command for proftpd? Thanks, Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] messages with HTML content (was: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user)
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 10:58:02AM -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 04:07:49PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 09:49:14 -0400, Gregory Seidman wrote: > > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 02:15:53PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 19:57:49 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > That said, there do seem to be a fair number of self-indulgent, > > > > > self-important, opinionated pundits using this list for their own, > > > > > irrelevant proselytizing of one view or another. But I only know that > > > > > because, on occasion, sort of like looking at a car wreck, I find > > > > > myself > > > > > opening one of those OT posts. If you open one by accident, delete > > > > > and > > > > > move > > > > > on. Or so I advise (knowing there are deaf ears out there). > > > > > > > > Maybe you should learn to follow clearly stated list policies such as > > > > "Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead." before you > > > > make judgement calls about the contributions of others. > > > > > > Actually, his message was a properly configured multipart/alternative > > > message. I'm set up to prefer text/plain over text/html when viewing > > > multipart/alternative, so I wasn't even aware that it contained an HTML > > > version until I went back to check. I don't think you have any basis for > > > complaint on this one. > > > > I was well aware of the exact nature of his message; that is why I > > changed the subject to "messages with HTML content" and not simply to > > "HTML messages". In my understanding of the English language the words > > "never" and "instead" in the mailing list guidelines rule out messages > > with an HTML part just as much as they rule out HTML-only ones. > > I think you're being unreasonably pedantic. Remember the Internet > Robustness Principle: "Be strict when sending and tolerant when receiving." > (I found http://ironick.typepad.com/ironick/2005/05/my_history_of_t.html to > have a nice history, incidentally.) His message was perfectly readable in > plain text, and I believe that follows the spirit of the law here. > Actually, one of the chief complaints with regard to the volume of OT traffic was that it wastes bandwidth and costs money (especially for those on metered connections). It is, then, a perfectly valid point. > Anyhow, we're way off-topic here. If you want to discuss further, let's > take it off the list. > Seeing as it affects what is considered the norm for interpretation of part of the conduct (does "never send HTML" literally mean you should "never have any HTML in your messages," or does it mean "don't send only HTML, such that someone who whants to see text gets to see it"?), I'd say it is quite on topic. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
matlab r2007a installation problems
Hi! I have a problem when i try to install matlab r2007a on my debian etch. When i execute the installation scipt, i get the following error: [b]An error status was returned by the program 'xsetup', the X Window System version of 'install'. The following messages were written to standard error: /home/ferran/matlab/update/bin/glnx86/xsetup: error while loading shared libraries: /home/ferran/matlab/update/bin/glnx86/libmwins.so: invalid ELF header Attempt to fix the problem and try again. If X is not available or 'xsetup' cannot be made to work then try the terminal version of 'install' using the command: install* -torINSTALL* -t[/b] I also tried to install it without X, but it still fail. Any help will be welcome! (I have a nvidia correctly installed if it helps) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On 05/20/2007 01:44 PM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: [...] I propose we add a clause to the code of conduct to address the OT issue. This half of the problem is generally followed but it should be part of policy. The following wording is a starting point for discussion: Discussions which are not Debian-Specific but which are relavent to the list topic should have their subjects prepended with [OT] to flag them for others as Off Topic. Discussions which are not relavent to the list topic should be taken off the list. [...] Seconded. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Changing screens
On 05/20/2007 01:38 PM, Matthias Brennwald wrote: Dear all I've got a laptop (Apple PowerBook G4) that I use both at home and on the road (with Debian Etch installed). At home, the laptop is connected to an external screen, with the laptop closed (so, at home, I don't use the laptops own screen). The two screens have different resolutions (laptop screen: 1440 x 1024, external screen at home: 1280 x 1024). The problem is that Debian uses the same screen resolution for both screens, wich I find annoying (it uses 1440 x 1024, which means that the image is larger than what fits on my external screen). How can I make Debain use the appropriate screen size? Do I have to set it manually or is there a way to adjust the screen size automatically? Matthias You can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf so that X only knows about the resolution(s) you want to use. The resolution is controlled by both the display depth and the list of allowed modes. First, shutdown X windows: log into a virtual console as root and type '/etc/init.d/gdm stop" (assuming that your display manager is gdm--adjust to your environment). Copy your xorg.conf to a backup file, e.g. xorg.conf.bak. Find your "DefaultDepth" in xorg.conf. Each display depth (8, 16, 24, ...) has its own section in the configuration file. Find the section for your depth and edit the list of allowable modes so that only "1280x1024" appears. Save the modified xorg.conf and restart gdm (or kdm or xdm). The display should have the appropriate size. Another option would be to have both "1440x1024" and "1280x1024" in the modes list and to use Control-Alt-Plus to switch between the modes. I hope this helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using a development server also as a backup production server
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 07:44:38PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 05:04:29AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 06:56:45PM +1000, Pascal Hakim wrote: > > > > > > I realise the original poster uses MySQL, but if you want to keep a > > > postgresql DB in sync like that, a great way to do it is by using > > > PITR/WAL shipping[1]. This will work pretty well if what you're worried > > > about is hardware failure, and will let you set just how far behind you > > > want the slave to be. > > > > > Interesting. Is that a new feature in 8.2? > > > > It was added in 8.0: > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/8.0/static/backup-online.html > > As an added bonus, since you can replay stuff in advance, you can > restore in seconds rather than hours. > That is awesome. I will have to hurry up and get my servers upgraded to Etch. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sánchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote: > Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic > discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for > "off-topic" messages. For the messages to be "social lubricant", they > need to be *interspersed* with the on-topic discussions in a way that > doesn't detract from the discussions. > > If the volume of messages in an off-topic thread is large enough that > an entire separate list is being considered, the off-topic diversion > is already beyond the level Joey describes as "social lubricant" and > into the level of disruptive noise. So people who "know" each other for years on this list are condemned to keep discussions (mostly) on-topic or leave the forum? How is this benefic to the community? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Re: Control Center Problems in KDE 3.5.5
Florian Kulzer wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 17:08:03 +, David Dawson wrote: >> Florian Kulzer wrote: > That looks normal to me. You probably already tried running kcontrol > from a terminal window and checking for error messages. Another thing Thanks! I'm not exactly a newbie, but as I do most things in a shell, I usually don't have occasion to delve into the desktop settings. This is what I got: kcontrol: WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings/ I see that something is missing, probably from an rc file, so which one? (I suspect I could tweak it by hand) > look at is ~/.xsession-errors after you have started kcontrol. > -- If you wrestle in the mud with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it. -- Dave Dawson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Touchpad speed
Dear all moving the cursor with the touchpad of my PowerBook G4 is very slow in Debian Etch. I played around with the settings in xorg.conf, and that helped a bit, but it's still rather slow. I mainly played with 'AccelFactor' (I used values 0.001, 0.01, 0.1, 1, and 10) and 'HorizScrollDelta' and 'VertScrollDelta' (I used values 0, 1, 10 and 100). My current settings are: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Synaptics Touchpad" Driver "synaptics" Option "SendCoreEvents""true" Option "Device""/dev/psaux" Option "Protocol" "auto-dev" Option "HorizScrollDelta" "100" Option "VertScrollDelta" "100" Option "AccelFactor" "0.01" EndSection Any ideas or hints on how to speed up my cursor from the touchpad? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound not working on Mac PowerBook G4
Dear all sound output is not working on my PowerBook G4 with Debian Etch. During boot I can see a message flashing by, saying something along the lines that snd_powermac encountered an error -12. Any hints or ideas? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Intel 3945 difficulties
* Curt Howland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-20 13:06:07 -0400]: > Yes. That was something I made sure of. > Good. > As I followed up before, the problem is that the HP hardware is not a > standard mini-pci-e slot. No other card than the Broadcom that comes > with it will work at all. Evil scum. The gauntlet is down, then. Any luck on TuxMobil? Regards, Klein -- ... I just know I'm a better manager when I have Joe DiMaggio in center field. -- Casey Stengel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 03:43:45PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Agreed. It may be a good idea to add to the mailing lists code of > conduct a couple of extra lines: > > A lot of questions asked on debian-user and debian-devel are asked > regularly. Please consider searching using an Internet search engine > and reading the mailing list archives, Debian install notes and Debian > reference manual before you post. If you can't find the answer, it is > very helpful to others to show that you have attempted at least some of > the above and your degree of success. > > If you have a problem, please be prepared to give hardware/installed > software and version information if requested to as part of the process > of problem resolution. > > Politeness and precision in use of language both help to narrow down > issues and constrain extraneous discussions and flame wars. If tempted > to start or continue contentions threads, please consider moving these > to private email or to debian-curiosa. Both debian-user and debian-devel > are high-volume lists read by people worldwide: consideration should be > given to the fact that the views and attitudes of others may differ from > your own. Seconded. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changing screens
Dear all I've got a laptop (Apple PowerBook G4) that I use both at home and on the road (with Debian Etch installed). At home, the laptop is connected to an external screen, with the laptop closed (so, at home, I don't use the laptops own screen). The two screens have different resolutions (laptop screen: 1440 x 1024, external screen at home: 1280 x 1024). The problem is that Debian uses the same screen resolution for both screens, wich I find annoying (it uses 1440 x 1024, which means that the image is larger than what fits on my external screen). How can I make Debain use the appropriate screen size? Do I have to set it manually or is there a way to adjust the screen size automatically? Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unable to connect to network
Pete wrote: DHCP. Laptop has its own IP address. No idea about name resolution. Not certain how to check it What is the output of the following commands: $> ping 4.2.2.2 $> ping google.com $> ping ->HS -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: securing desktop
Hello. Thanks for everyone's suggestions. They helped get me thinking, and I think I'll be able to solve some of the current issues. I'm going to change ownership of the /home/guest/Desktop file to root, which should solve the issue of cluttering the desktop. And for the panels, I'm going to use gconf editor, under apps/panel/global to lock it down. I'll look into the other suggestions (writing a script, creating a /home/guest/data file) later. Only once has the client changed permissions on the home directory; so, it's not the main concern. Constantly she messes with the panels, and creates dozens of new "untitled folders" on the desktop. I'll be able to solve these issues, anyway, I feel. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:51:08AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > This particular problem is solved for the most part by a policy change > that says non-Debian topics are inappropriate. This opens the door to > various actions starting with "this is not appropriate, please stop" in > the event that fox news junkies again start braying their ignorance here. > This simple and often effective remedy is currently denied us because > there is as yet no such policy. What if we, the list users, could agree on a policy change that then the list maintainers could take under advisement. There is already a bit of a policy in the code of conduct at: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists It would be helpful if that code of conduct had its own page and be enumerated so that it could be referred to directly when we try to self-regulate. Eg: "Yoh WhatsYourName, this topic, while interesting in a general sense, is rather OT. Please take it off list, per the list code of conduct item 13 at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/CodeOfConduct#13."; To get this discussion going, I move that the Code of Conduct be adopted as official debian policy. Seconded: Discussion: All in Favour: Opposed: I propose we add a clause to the code of conduct to address the OT issue. This half of the problem is generally followed but it should be part of policy. The following wording is a starting point for discussion: Discussions which are not Debian-Specific but which are relavent to the list topic should have their subjects prepended with [OT] to flag them for others as Off Topic. Discussions which are not relavent to the list topic should be taken off the list. Seconded: Discussion: All in Favour: Opposed: To address the second half of the problem, I propose we add a clause on offensive posts. There is already a clause that says not to use foul language, and one that says "try" not to flame. There is no excuse for flaming or offensiveness in any discussion and it should not be tolerated. The link provided in the code of conduct to the definition of "flame" referres to impolite ranting which I think comes under the more general term of offensive language. While it has been shown that you can't legislate moral or polite behaviour, you can exclude people who demonstrate impolite behaviour from a group. I propose the following wording as a starting point for discussion: Discussions and comments which are offensive, hateful, or disrespectful to an individual or group are not permitted. Swearing and foul language is not permited in any language (exception: words in common usage in the list language may be swear words in another language). Seconded: Discussion: All in favour: Opposed: Thanks, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Found: excellent procmail HOWTO
On May 19, 10:20 pm, Owen Heisler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been wanting to set up procmail for a while (with a .forward file), > but wasn't able to find a good HOWTO. I found a good HOWTO also. It said use getmail and maildrop instead of fetchmail and procmail. :) I spent a whole day trying to get procmail to work, then gave up and set up maildrop in half an hour. http://pyropus.ca/software/getmail/faq.html http://www.courier-mta.org/maildrop/ rd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: running qemu on an AMD64 box to host Windows 98......
Michael Fothergill wrote:
>> From: "Michael G. Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Michael Fothergill wrote:
>> > 2. You need a blank disk image ("harddisk"). This is like adding a
>> blank
>> > disk to the virtual computer that QEMU creates. Use qemu-img to
>> create a
>> > 3Gb blank disk image:
>> >
>> > qemu-img create -f qcow c.img 3G
>
> I ran this and it seemed to work OK.
>> > 3. When you install an OS on a real computer you normally boot an
>> > installation CD/DVD or an existing image. We'll do the same with the
>> > virtual computer. Here you have two options: Either you use a real
>> > installation CD/DVD or you have an install ISO image. Depending on
>> this,
>> > the next steps are slightly different.
>> >
>> > * If you have an installation CD, put the CD (e.g. Windows installation
>> > CD) into the real CD drive of your host computer. Then run
>> > qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda c.img -m 256 -boot d
>
> I ran this command next and I got the QEMU error
>
> The CD player fired up for a while and then I got the following:
>
> CDROM boot failure code 0004
>
> could not read from boot disk
>
> N.B. my hard disk is /hdb1. There is no /hda on my machine Could
> that be a problem?
-hda c.img means that qemu should use c.img as the drive for hda and has
nothing to do with the device-names of your hard-disk. (See man qemu)
However, it does look for a bootable cd in /dev/cdrom (-cdrom
/dev/cdrom) Did you insert a bootable CD into your drive? If you did and
it did not work, try creating an image of the CD (e.g. with K3B) and
then try booting that using -cdrom name_of_image.iso
>> You may want to consider installing kqemu as well. It is a kernel-module
>> that speeds up the emulation significantly, however you have to built
>> parts of it yourself (just like the nvidia-driver, in case you have done
>> that before).
>
> Is that why there is no package in Synaptic for kqemu? Do I have to
> compile it from source or something?
KQemu used to be proprietary and was thus not in Debian. But as of
version 1.3.0-pre11 it is under the GPL and it is in lenny/sid. You can
also grab it from http://www.qemu.org There is a binary in the package
and a wrapper around it which has to be compiled so it matches your
kernel. I don't know how to do that the debian-way though, so you might
want to ask others on this list :-)
Greetings,
Mike
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Re: Clamav-deamon Bug
On Sunday 20 May 2007 05:17, David Baron wrote:
> I usually cannot find any dmesg entry for this problem. ONE time I did see
> one and the complaint was about permissions for opening the log file in
> append mode. The logfile's owner and the executer of clamd is "clamav" and
> the file;s permissions (rw r . )look fine.
>
> I originally thought that it tries to append the file, fails, logrotate
> moves it away and a new file can be created successfully. This is not the
> case since this log is rotated one per week!
How, if at all, does your config differ from this?
# grep clam /etc/{passwd,group}
/etc/passwd:clamav:x:113:113::/var/lib/clamav:/bin/false
/etc/passwd:clamsmtp:x:114:114::/var/spool/clamsmtp:/bin/false
/etc/group:clamav:x:113:
/etc/group:clamsmtp:x:114:clamav
# ls -dl /var/*/clam*
drwxr-xr-x 4 clamav clamav4096 2007-05-20 10:38 /var/lib/clamav
drwxr-xr-x 2 clamav clamav4096 2007-05-20 01:17 /var/log/clamav
drwxr-xr-x 2 clamav clamav4096 2007-05-20 01:17 /var/run/clamav
drwxr-xr-x 2 clamav clamsmtp 4096 2007-05-14 23:47 /var/run/clamsmtp
drwxr-x--- 2 clamav clamsmtp 61440 2007-05-20 11:04 /var/spool/clamsmtp
# ls -l /var/log/clamav/clamav.log
-rw-r- 1 clamav adm 953 2007-05-20 10:18 /var/log/clamav/clamav.log
# debconf-show clamav-base
* clamav-base/ScanMail: true
* clamav-base/LogSyslog: false
* clamav-base/AddGroups: clamsmtp
clamav-base/socket-note:
* clamav-base/FixStaleSocket: true
* clamav-base/FollowDirectorySymlinks: false
* clamav-base/debconf: true
clamav-base/numinfo:
clamav-base/TCPAddr: any
* clamav-base/SelfCheck: 3600
* clamav-base/ReadTimeout: 180
* clamav-base/ScanArchive: true
* clamav-base/ScanRAR: false
* clamav-base/TcpOrLocal: UNIX
* clamav-base/FollowFileSymlinks: false
* clamav-base/MaxConnectionQueueLength: 15
* clamav-base/ArchiveMaxRecursion: 5
* clamav-base/ArchiveMaxFileSize: 10
* clamav-base/MaxThreads: 12
* clamav-base/MaxDirectoryRecursion: 15
* clamav-base/LogFile: /var/log/clamav/clamav.log
* clamav-base/LogTime: true
* clamav-base/LocalSocket: /var/run/clamav/clamd.ctl
* clamav-base/ArchiveMaxCompressionRatio: 0
* clamav-base/StreamMaxLength: 10
clamav-base/TCPSocket: 3310
* clamav-base/User: clamav
* clamav-base/ArchiveMaxFiles: 1000
--Mike Bird
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