Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Felipe Sateler]

Bruno Buys wrote:

> Konsole and yakuake needed a 'umask 02' added to ~/.bashrc (there
> was none) to behave well. Neither once was reading ~/.bash_profile, by
> the way.

That is because ~/.bash_profile is read on login shells only (unless you
source it from ~/.bashrc

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RE: From FreeBSD 6 to Debian 4

[Philippe Lang]

Kevin Mark wrote:

> As a FLOSS person, I always like to know what make *BSD more
> attractive than Linuxes.

One thing comes to my mind: documentation. I'm sure there is plenty of
documentation and infos on Debian, everywhere, but when you start, I
imagine you feel more confortable with BSD documentation. On FreeBSD, we
have this:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/

This is clear, simple to read. And this THE reference.

Philippe

wajig (was: Re: Printing with lprng; no CUPS! :-))

[CaT]

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 09:10:15AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> I gave up on aptitude long ago because it kept trying, and sometimes
> succeeding, to remove lots of things it shouldn't. I now use apt-get
> via wajig, which seems to be one of the best-kept Linux secrets.

Interesting. I'll try to remember to use it just to see what it's like,
thoguh I've found one thing about it that I don't. No command should
ever spit out usage information, except a single line on how to find
usage on an error. :/

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Re: Thinkpad 755CX

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/17/07 19:36, Andrew J. Barr wrote:

This is a 1995-vintage machine (guessing by the BIOS copyright date on
the bottom) with a Pentium 75 and 16 MB of RAM (originally 8 until I
found a loose RAM expansion card under the floppy disk, heh heh). It
has no CDROM, no USB, no Ethernet. It does have a floppy disk, a
parallel port*, and two PCMCIA slots. My preferred method of
installation is a CompactFlash card in a PCMCIA sleeve, both for space

[snip]

Anyone have any ideas of what I can do with this machine, including
other Linux distributions and/or operating systems (e.g. FreeDOS)?
Ultimately I'd like to get Debian in some form on the machine but
right now it looks like I can't really afford to be picky.


NetBSD might be what you need.

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Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/17/07 22:08, Ben wrote:
[snip]


Fancy extra features may include links to startup VNC/SSH sessions to 
any given machine on the network, having machines call home via a small 
script or C app, report their mac address to an sql database, report 
diskspace, mac address, assett tags, deliver alerts, etc...


But yeah, basically, there is no gnu utility that I have found that does 
these sorts of things, and certainly not one that focuses on linux or 
debian's packaging tools.


wajig might be a good starting point for this kind of tool.

   If I can get my company to get excited about 
this tool, I'd love to start up a project and see what we can get going.


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Re: From FreeBSD 6 to Debian 4

[Kevin Mark]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 07:46:55AM +0200, Philippe Lang wrote:
> Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
>  
> > Just curious: what induced you from freebsd to debian?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thanks all for your help. I decided to make the transition from FreeBSD
> to Debian for a few reasons:
> 
> 1) Virtualization: For the moment, there is no offical Dom0 XEN port on
> FreeBSD, and FreeBSD jails are a little too limited for what I'm doing
> (no CPU limit per jail, not RAM limit per jail). What's more, there is
> an annoying old bug that prevents you from restarting a jail separately.
> All these points should be corrected sooner or later.
> 
> 2) LVM: there is no such beast under FreeBSD. Note that ZFS should be
> available under FreeBSD 7.0.
> 
> Except that, I've always been very very happy with FreeBSD. Performances
> and stability are just great.
> 
> Regards to all,
> 
> Philippe
As a FLOSS person, I always like to know what make *BSD more attractive
than Linuxes. If you get a change to blog or comment here about things
you notice, I'm sure I and the other list folks would be interesting in
your observations. Hopefully keeping flameage too a minimum ;-)
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RE: From FreeBSD 6 to Debian 4

[Philippe Lang]

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
 
> Just curious: what induced you from freebsd to debian?

Hi,

Thanks all for your help. I decided to make the transition from FreeBSD
to Debian for a few reasons:

1) Virtualization: For the moment, there is no offical Dom0 XEN port on
FreeBSD, and FreeBSD jails are a little too limited for what I'm doing
(no CPU limit per jail, not RAM limit per jail). What's more, there is
an annoying old bug that prevents you from restarting a jail separately.
All these points should be corrected sooner or later.

2) LVM: there is no such beast under FreeBSD. Note that ZFS should be
available under FreeBSD 7.0.

Except that, I've always been very very happy with FreeBSD. Performances
and stability are just great.

Regards to all,

Philippe

Re: Thinkpad 755CX

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 08:36:20PM -0400, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> This is a 1995-vintage machine (guessing by the BIOS copyright date on
> the bottom) with a Pentium 75 and 16 MB of RAM (originally 8 until I
> found a loose RAM expansion card under the floppy disk, heh heh). It
> has no CDROM, no USB, no Ethernet. It does have a floppy disk, a
> parallel port*, and two PCMCIA slots. My preferred method of
> installation is a CompactFlash card in a PCMCIA sleeve, both for space
I have a toshiba libretto (P-1 166/32mb). Other than an 2gb->10gb
upgrade, it works ok with twm, firefox, but is not a speed daemon.
I used a pcmcia cdrom, dos, and RH 7.1 and loadlin.exe a few years ago.
Not fun.

I'd suggest: take out the 2.5" hd, get a 2.5"->3.5" adapter (less than
$10 US), put it in any PC, and install woody or sarge. And report back
if you can get either of these to work. This is the easiest way I can
thing of. I setup plip afterwards for fun, and it worked to network
between my desktop and laptop.
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Re: Is Etch still stable?

[Kevin Mark]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 10:48:07PM +0200, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote:
> Hello folks,
> 
> I visited http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
> It used to show 8 bugs "concerning the current stable release", that is
> Etch, and some 500-600 "concerning the next release". Now it shows 522
> bugs for Etch. Am I missing something?
Yes. The page does not show the word 'etch'. Etch is the current stable.
Lenny is the next stable. If you look at the graph, the bottom line dips
near zero at april or may, that was the release of Etch.
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Re:ntpdate[5498]: no server suitable for synchronization found

[anup]

Yes I am in Asia.
I picked up three server from the script as fallows.
202.234.64.222
124.10.47.8
152.118.24.8
And run the ntpdate command,  But still i am facing the same problem and 
got the following Error.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ntpdate -ud 152.118.24.8
18 Jun 10:08:55 ntpdate[8675]: ntpdate [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 11 
09:10:21 EDT 2004 (1)

Looking for host 152.118.24.8 and service ntp
host found : uicsgtw.cs.ui.ac.id
transmit(152.118.24.8)
transmit(152.118.24.8)
transmit(152.118.24.8)
transmit(152.118.24.8)
transmit(152.118.24.8)
152.118.24.8: Server dropped: no data
server 152.118.24.8, port 123
stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
refid [152.118.24.8], delay 0.0, dispersion 64.0
transmitted 4, in filter 4
reference time:.  Thu, Feb  7 2036 11:58:16.000
originate timestamp: .  Thu, Feb  7 2036 11:58:16.000
transmit timestamp:  ca208ae3.c947bedb  Mon, Jun 18 2007 10:08:59.786
filter delay:  0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
0.0  0.0  0.0  0.0
filter offset: 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
delay 0.0, dispersion 64.0
offset 0.00

18 Jun 10:09:00 ntpdate[8675]: no server suitable for synchronization found


Is it necessary to access time server only on Live server in my 
organization or i can access it on internal network PC?




- Original Message - From: "Rick Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "anup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 10:54 AM

Subject: Re: ntpdate[5498]: no server suitable for synchronization found

I assume you are in Asia.  If so, run the following script and  examine 
the output.  Pick three hosts that look best and use them in  place of 
"3.asia.pool.ntp.org".


Script:
cut here---
for i in 0 1 2 3
do
host $i.asia.pool.ntp.org
done | while read x
echo ""
do y="$(echo $x | sed 's/^.*has address //')"
ping -c10 -q $y
host $y
done
cut here---
Criteria for a "good" host:
no more than 10% packet loss.
max round trip time is acceptably low

deviation (mdev or stddev, depending on which version of ping) of  round 
trip time is acceptably low.


Enjoy!

Rick

Intel pro100 NIC problem in Etch

[Yuwen Dai]

Dear all,

I have a Intel pro100 network card in my PC.  The system loads kernel module
`e100' automatically when booting.  But ifconfig eth0 up failed. If I
manually load `eepro100', ifconfig also failed.  This is some output:

# modprobe eepro100
PCI: Enabling device :02:02.0 (0110 -> 0113)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :02:02.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 185
eth0: :02:02.0, 00:0E:0C:5E:4B:06, IRQ 185.
 Board assembly 741462-017, Physical connectors present: RJ45
 Primary interface chip i82555 PHY #1.
 General self-test: passed.
 Serial sub-system self-test: passed.
 Internal registers self-test: passed.
 ROM checksum self-test: passed (0x04f4518b).

# ifconfig eth0 up
eth0: ERRor while getting interface flags: No such device

# cat /proc/interrupts
  CPU0
 0: 692389IO-APIC-edge  timer
 1:   1242IO-APIC-edge  i8042
 6:  5IO-APIC-edge  floppy
 7:  0IO-APIC-edge  parport0
 8:  1IO-APIC-edge  rtc
 9:  1   IO-APIC-level  acpi
14:   4184IO-APIC-edge  ide0
15:  24753IO-APIC-edge  ide1
169:272   IO-APIC-level  uhci_hcd:usb1, [EMAIL PROTECTED]::01:00.0
177:  0   IO-APIC-level  uhci_hcd:usb2
185:  0   IO-APIC-level  uhci_hcd:usb3
193:  0   IO-APIC-level  ehci_hcd:usb4
201:  0   IO-APIC-level  Intel 82801DB-ICH4
NMI:  0
LOC: 692339
ERR:  0
MIS:  0

It seems there's IRQ conflict (IRQ 185).  However, I use a SLAX live CD to
boot the same machine, the NIC works well.

My environment:
Debian Etch:  kernel 2.6.18-4-686
a Dell Pentium 4 PC

Any direction will be appreciated.

Best regards,
Yuwen

Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Bruno Buys]

Bruno Buys wrote:
Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new 
file? I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions 
that my system atributes to new files.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


thanks!

Umask did the trick. Kde seems to be following /etc/profile, so i edited 
it. Konsole and yakuake needed a 'umask 02' added to ~/.bashrc (there 
was none) to behave well. Neither one was reading ~/.bash_profile, by 
the way. It remembers me when I was trying to add ~/bin to my path. 
There was


if [ -d ~/bin ] ; then
   PATH=~/bin:"${PATH}"
fi

but not worked.
Anyway, the issue is solved. Thanks all!




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Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[Ben]

All of our machines are identical... er at least the variety of machines 
that we're planning to manage (thin-clients, servers). We do use tools 
like system imager to image the boxes before they are deployed in the 
field. I find apt appealing because it encourages our programmers to 
compile their code and create debian packages, which promotes the idea 
that we should keep our source code organized (something that has not 
occurred in the past). I like debs more than rpms (no standardization) 
and portage (emerge requires bulky rsync of makefiles). We can keep 
track of changes, effectively rollout packages/releases with version and 
revision control, downgrade, upgrade... etc...


I plan to use apt as a tool to do software rollouts and periodic 
upgrades and security releases rather than dist-upgrades. If this works, 
I would manage several private mirrors (stable, testing, unstable) of 
our own in-house software and gnu software. Now the 
apt-frontend-network-tool that I envision creating would act as sort of 
a mass-network admin gui that facilitates running apt-get upgrade. I'm 
ultimately thinking of a gui-tree-like-display of all the debian 
machines on our network. There would be a way to change machines' 
sources.list by the handful (highlight a bunch of machines and set them 
for stable, testing, unstable, whatever). I would also like to employ 
some sort of sync/imaging utility that could be used in case a machine 
were to become corrupted and needed to be re-imaged via pxeboot or some 
other method.


Fancy extra features may include links to startup VNC/SSH sessions to 
any given machine on the network, having machines call home via a small 
script or C app, report their mac address to an sql database, report 
diskspace, mac address, assett tags, deliver alerts, etc...


But yeah, basically, there is no gnu utility that I have found that does 
these sorts of things, and certainly not one that focuses on linux or 
debian's packaging tools. If I can get my company to get excited about 
this tool, I'd love to start up a project and see what we can get going.


Ben


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Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[Bob Proulx]

s. keeling wrote:
> Ben wrote:
> >  I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate 
> >  managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would 
> >  recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the 
> >  others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable approach, but 
> >  I thought I'd just check in w/ the list and see what people recommend.
> 
> I'll answer that with, why would someone in your position not want to
> do that?

I am not sure to which you direction you are referring.  Why would
someone administering a large number of machines not want to use APT?
Why would someone administering a large number of machiens not want to
use system images?

On a server farm of identical machines using system images works
pretty well.  Tools like SystemImager, FAI, Mondo, etc. are great.
But in an engineering desktop pool for a counter example there will be
machine variations.  In the case that variations are expected then
images do not work as well.  In which case I prefer to simply upgrade
the machine with APT.  APT is great for this and works very well.

In my experience most environments have variations.  Perhaps the
largest groups of machines are identical.  But other machines are
different.  In addition to compute servers there are always
DNS/NTP/NIS/YP servers, NFS servers, LDAP servers, web servers,
database servers, and others that don't quite ever fit a standard
image.  As soon as I need to deal with these variations I find that
using APT for everything is just easier.

But as always every environment is unique.  An informed and reasoned
decision is always best even if it might not make sense to people not
involved in the process.

Bob


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Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[s. keeling]

Ben <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate 
>  managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would 
>  recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the 
>  others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable approach, but 
>  I thought I'd just check in w/ the list and see what people recommend.

I'll answer that with, why would someone in your position not want to
do that?


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Re: Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[Bob Proulx]

Ben wrote:
> I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate 
> managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would 
> recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the 
> others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable approach, but 
> I thought I'd just check in w/ the list and see what people recommend.

There is no single standardized tool to do this.  Some customized
script writing will be required.  However there are lots of options
and lots of possibilities.

Unfortunately you did not say whether you were upgrading from Sarge to
Etch or if this is a routine daily installation of security upgrades
or if other conditions applied.  I would suggest different things in
each of those cases.  If you could say more about your environment
then better suggestions might be provided.

The majority of users have a small number of machines.  The standard
solutions all center around the Debian Release Notes and upgrading
manually.  That is the most flexible method but is of course the most
manual method.  The numbers of administrators such as yourself with a
large number of machines is smaller.  Also they usually have
customized environments making use of completely standardized tools
out of the box difficult.  It is harder to make a generalized
solution.  But custom solutions for any one particular environment are
almost always possible.

What I have done in the past (also with thousands of machines) to
provide security upgrades is to run a daily cron task that ran a an
upgrade script.  I used a private mirror that I controlled.  I staged
victim machines to get security upgrades immediately and other
machines received them after a waiting period if no problems were seen
on the "canary" machines.  A standard Debian package that may be
useful in this case is fine 'cron-apt' however I found a custom script
solution to be better in my case.

However security upgrades are nice, tidy special cases.  Configuration
files don't change.  Package names don't change.  Very little changes.
But for distribution changes from Sarge to Etch it is more complicated
to automatically upgrade machines.  More is needed than tools designed
for security upgrades can provide.  In those cases I think only a
custom script upgrade process can work successfully.

Are all of your machines identical?  Are there small numbers of known
variations?  Are there large numbers of large variations?  Desktops?
Servers?  A mix?  Of course the more similar the pool of machines to
upgrade automatically then the easier this will be but one of the
strengths of Debian systems is the ability to handle gracefully a lot
of variations.

Assuming that you have thousands of machines running Sarge and that
some variation exists but that most are very similar then it is fairly
easy to create a script to automate the upgrade Sarge to Etch.  I have
done this several stable Debian releases previously.  I would be happy
to provide further information from my own experience and I am sure
that others on the list would as well.  Start small and test the
script on a representative machine.  Fix any issues found.  Work
slowly through several more machines.  Gain confidence is the process.
Increase the rollout to the large pool of machines.  Finish off any
exception machines that were held off during the original deployment.
It will be done before you know it!

I did not provide details here because they would be overwhelming.  If
you (or others) are interested then please keep the dialog going.  It
is an interesting topic.

Bob


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Re: Subinterface within a same VLAN

[Rachel Seok]

Is there anyone familiar with VLAN on debian??
Can someone help me??
Looking for solution for "subinterfaces within a same VLAN"

Pleaseee... helppp...

regards,
Rachel

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Subject: Subinterface within a same VLAN



Hi,

I'm creating the VLAN on my Debian.

Is there anyway I can create subinterfaces within a same VLAN??

Thanks and regards,

Rachel Seok


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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Bob Proulx]

Bruno Buys wrote:
> Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file? 
> ...
> I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile

It sounds like you are trying to set up a "User Private Group" type of
configuration.  Is that correct?  That is a typical and good
configuration to use in a group of users.

In that case you will want to modify /etc/profile and change the umask
setting there from 'umask 022' to 'umask 02'.  That file is sourced by
login shells.

  sudo editor /etc/profile

Note that the default install configuration for the root user is to
have /root/.bashrc set 'umask 022' and to have /root/.profile source
the /root/.bashrc file but these are often customized.  Even when
using UPG for non-root users it is desirable to keep root's umask to
be 022.  After making the above change to /etc/profile you should log
in as root and verify that root's umask is still 022.  This is just in
case root's environment has been customized and the umask setting
removed.

Bob


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Re: Thinkpad 755CX

[Matthew K Poer]

On Sunday 17 June 2007 8:36 pm, Andrew J. Barr wrote:
> This is a 1995-vintage machine (guessing by the BIOS copyright date on
> the bottom) with a Pentium 75 and 16 MB of RAM (originally 8 until I
> found a loose RAM expansion card under the floppy disk, heh heh). It
> has no CDROM, no USB, no Ethernet. It does have a floppy disk, a
> parallel port*, and two PCMCIA slots. My preferred method of
> installation is a CompactFlash card in a PCMCIA sleeve, both for space
> and speed reasons. However, memory, or lack thereof is proving a
> problem for debian-installer. I have tried sarge, etch, and lenny
> hd-media images and they all fail in various stages of the kernel boot,
> most of the time before userland is started, sometimes panicking,
> sometimes just hanging. The same applies to the floppies from Etch
> (have not tried Sarge) but the Lenny installer does start in low-memory
> mode, but I am having issues figuring out how to get network drivers
> and/or packages onto this machine--all I have in the way of PCMCIA
> (e.g. 16-bit) networking hardware is a D-Link DWL-650 rev.P, which
> requires the HostAP driver and loadable firmware, neither of which are
> included with the Lenny installer.
>
> Anyone have any ideas of what I can do with this machine, including
> other Linux distributions and/or operating systems (e.g. FreeDOS)?
> Ultimately I'd like to get Debian in some form on the machine but
> right now it looks like I can't really afford to be picky.
>
> I'd rather not spend too much money on this machine, none preferably.
> It's just an idle hobby, and I already spend enough money on my other
> machines as it is. So in other words, I'd like to work with what I
> have, if at all possible.
>
> * I have a "LapLink" parallel cable suitable for PLIP...I _think_...if I
> didn't give it away...I'd rather not go rooting in the attic for that
> (have not tried Sarge) but the Lenny installer does start in low-memory
> mode, but I am having issues figuring out how to get network drivers
> and/or packages onto this machine--all I have in the way of PCMCIA
> (e.g. 16-bit) networking hardware is a D-Link DWL-650 rev.P, which
> requires the HostAP driver and loadable firmware, neither of which are
> included with the Lenny installer.
>
> Anyone have any ideas of what I can do with this machin
> if at all possible.
>
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>
> Woke up in my clothes again this morning,
> don't know exactly where I am...
Tricky situation, but can you do a floppy boot to netinst? I think this will 
work for you if you create an additional floppy disk with your network card's 
drivers/firmware on it. During the installation process, exit to a prompt to 
get the drivers/firmware from the floppy. 

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Re: DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Stephen Cormier]

On June 17, 2007 09:11:27 pm Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Monday 18 June 2007 00:34, Stephen Cormier wrote:
> > On June 17, 2007 04:58:48 pm Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 16:39:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > > > I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that
> > > > > the monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or
> > > > > so, and up to last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff)
> > > > > this had been working ok.
> > > > >
> > > > > This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the
> > > > > machine, just to make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and
> > > > > now I find that the monitor is again going into standby after some
> > > > > 30mins or so. The "options DPMS" line is still commented out, but
> > > > > appears to be being ignored.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions welcome.
> > >
> > > Nigel.
> >
> > You can always use xset -dpms to turn it off in a console/console window
> > for the rest of your problem I have no ideas.
> >
> > Stephen
>
> Thanks Stephen. That appears to have resolved the problem. Which file has
> xset -dpms made changes to?
>
> Nigel.
>
> btw. Thanks for the link to the kernel compile tutorial. Ironically the
> video devices are being ordered correctly now, each time I boot with the
> 2.6.17 kernel. I'll still go ahead with compiling a kernel on Debian
> though, as I need the practice.

Your welcome, I don't believe that it actually uses any file it just 
communicates directly with the xserver setting the various options you can in 
this case disabling the power management.

Stephen

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Thinkpad 755CX

[Andrew J. Barr]

This is a 1995-vintage machine (guessing by the BIOS copyright date on
the bottom) with a Pentium 75 and 16 MB of RAM (originally 8 until I
found a loose RAM expansion card under the floppy disk, heh heh). It
has no CDROM, no USB, no Ethernet. It does have a floppy disk, a
parallel port*, and two PCMCIA slots. My preferred method of
installation is a CompactFlash card in a PCMCIA sleeve, both for space
and speed reasons. However, memory, or lack thereof is proving a
problem for debian-installer. I have tried sarge, etch, and lenny
hd-media images and they all fail in various stages of the kernel boot,
most of the time before userland is started, sometimes panicking,
sometimes just hanging. The same applies to the floppies from Etch
(have not tried Sarge) but the Lenny installer does start in low-memory
mode, but I am having issues figuring out how to get network drivers
and/or packages onto this machine--all I have in the way of PCMCIA
(e.g. 16-bit) networking hardware is a D-Link DWL-650 rev.P, which
requires the HostAP driver and loadable firmware, neither of which are
included with the Lenny installer.

Anyone have any ideas of what I can do with this machine, including
other Linux distributions and/or operating systems (e.g. FreeDOS)?
Ultimately I'd like to get Debian in some form on the machine but
right now it looks like I can't really afford to be picky.

I'd rather not spend too much money on this machine, none preferably.
It's just an idle hobby, and I already spend enough money on my other
machines as it is. So in other words, I'd like to work with what I
have, if at all possible.

* I have a "LapLink" parallel cable suitable for PLIP...I _think_...if I
didn't give it away...I'd rather not go rooting in the attic for that
if at all possible.

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Re: DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Nigel Henry]

On Monday 18 June 2007 00:34, Stephen Cormier wrote:
> On June 17, 2007 04:58:48 pm Nigel Henry wrote:

> > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 16:39:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > > I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that
> > > > the monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or so,
> > > > and up to last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff) this had
> > > > been working ok.
> > > >
> > > > This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the
> > > > machine, just to make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and
> > > > now I find that the monitor is again going into standby after some
> > > > 30mins or so. The "options DPMS" line is still commented out, but
> > > > appears to be being ignored.
> > Any suggestions welcome.
> >
> > Nigel.
>
> You can always use xset -dpms to turn it off in a console/console window
> for the rest of your problem I have no ideas.
>
> Stephen

Thanks Stephen. That appears to have resolved the problem. Which file has
xset -dpms made changes to?

Nigel.

btw. Thanks for the link to the kernel compile tutorial. Ironically the video 
devices are being ordered correctly now, each time I boot with the 2.6.17 
kernel. I'll still go ahead with compiling a kernel on Debian though, as I 
need the practice.


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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 13:22:07 -0600, Telly Williams wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> >
> >I think that depends on how restrictive your SELinux setup is. Can you
> >turn SELinux off and try to install slib again?
> >
> >  
> Whoa.  I did 'echo 0 >/selinux/enforce' and now everything works, including 
> Open Office.  Thanks Florian.
> 
> I just began using SELinux and trying to understand how everything works.  
> Why wouldn't it let me install slib while I was root?  Is it that there's no 
> such thing as a Super User in SELinux?  ~Telly

As far as I understand it, the point of SELinux is to be able to put
finer-grained restrictions on everybody, including root. For example,
you might want to forbid root to do certain things if he/she is not
sitting in front of the keyboard. That way you can limit the damage that
a remote attacker can do even if he/she manages to gain root. This gives
you more security, but it also means that you can lock yourself out if
you are not careful with your policies. Completely disabling SELinux is
just a quick-and-dirty check to see if it is indeed the cause of your
installation problems. The next step, as Ron has already pointed out, is
to check the logs to find out which policy you have to relax, and to
figure out how to relax it just enough to let the next slib upgrade
happen without problems.

The same goes for OpenOffice. It will probably still take a while until
the default policies are optimized for all applications. One should
probably also keep in mind that the primary purpose of SELinux is to
improve the security of servers, therefore it will naturally be more of
a hassle to make applications work which are normally not run on a
server.

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Upgrading thousands of boxes via APT

[Ben]

Hi List,

I was wondering if there's a Debian specific tool that could facilitate 
managing thousands of machines via APT. I'm aware that many people would 
recommend a sync option, where 1 machine serves as the master, and the 
others sync off of that. Perhaps that is the only reliable approach, but 
I thought I'd just check in w/ the list and see what people recommend.


Thanks,
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Re: DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Stephen Cormier]

On June 17, 2007 04:58:48 pm Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Sunday 17 June 2007 20:40, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 16:39:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > > I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that the
> > > monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or so, and
> > > up to last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff) this had been
> > > working ok.
> > >
> > > This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the machine,
> > > just to make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and now I find
> > > that the monitor is again going into standby after some 30mins or so.
> > > The "options DPMS" line is still commented out, but appears to be being
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > I read a while back that xorg.conf was being deprecated, and would no
> > > longer be necessary. If that is so, and these x updates have made that
> > > change, where do I go now to stop DPMS being used.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance for any pointers toward the file I need to look at.
> >
> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not depreciated yet. If I understand you
> > correctly, you had the DPMS line simply commented out in the past. This
> > means that you get the default behavior, which can change with an
> > upgrade. Try to turn DPMS off explicitly by using
> >
> > Option "DPMS" "false"
> >
> > in the monitor section of your xorg.conf.
> >
> > If this does not have the desired effect then you should post the output
> > of:
> >
> > grep -i dpms /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> >
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>
> No go with setting DPMS to false. 20mins later after restarting X the
> monitor goes into standby. It's a bit annoying as yesterday before these X
> updates I had no problem, and with just commenting out the "options DPMS"
> line, the monitor would not go into standby mode.
>
> Anyway, this is all I get from grep.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i dpms /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> (II) Loading extension DPMS
> (**) Option "dpms" "false"
> (**) TRIDENT(0): DPMS enabled
>
> Trident is the driver for the Cyberbladei1 onboard graphics card
>
> A bit annoying, and I'd like to resolve it. There's nothing more annoying
> than reading some document, and then the screen goes black.
>
> Any suggestions welcome.
>
> Nigel.

You can always use xset -dpms to turn it off in a console/console window for 
the rest of your problem I have no ideas.

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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Magnus Therning]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 18:11:02 -0300, Bruno Buys wrote:
>Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file? I 
>mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my system 
>atributes to new files.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
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>
>I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in
>
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile

Look into umask.

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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Orestes leal]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 18:11:02 -0300
Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Do a: chmod g+w newfile 

ls -lh newfile 
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 17 17:39 newfile

Ore.

> Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file? 
> I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my 
> system atributes to new files.
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
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> 
> 
> I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in
> 
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile
> 
> 
> thanks!
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Re: Setting permissions to new files?

[Atis]

On 6/18/07, Bruno Buys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file?
I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my
system atributes to new files.


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


type
$ umask 002

you can put it in your .bashrc

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Setting permissions to new files?

[Bruno Buys]

Where do I change the permissions that are set when I create a new file? 
I mean, I'd like to be able to change the default permissions that my 
system atributes to new files.



[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ > newfile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ls -l newfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


I'd like new files to be created as writable to the group, as in

-rw-rw-r-- 1 bruno bruno 0 2007-06-17 18:06 newfile


thanks!


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Re: how to save Internet radio played by realplayer

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Thanks! I'll try XMMS and Audacious later on.

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> 
> > I use sarge
> > 
> > I listen to Internet radio by realplayer, how to save the
> > broadcast(audio) to a file?
> 
> XMMS and Audacious have a disk writer plugin. This may be the direction
> you should search.
>  
> > I install an extra sound card, connect lineout of one sound card to
> > linein of the other sound card, but can't record sound.
> > 
> > 
> > Another question: which package can convert mpeg to  avi? 
> > 
> > 
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Is Etch still stable?

[Nyizsnyik Ferenc]

Hello folks,

I visited http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/
It used to show 8 bugs "concerning the current stable release", that is
Etch, and some 500-600 "concerning the next release". Now it shows 522
bugs for Etch. Am I missing something?

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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Frank McCormick]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:02:44 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:22:19PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > > > > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > > > > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > > > > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > 
> >From a quick Google search I found some  Linuxers running the
> > drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the
> > Bios is the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Yeah, I actually googled first before deciding to buy these
> components. I bought the components from a company here that
> assembled the parts, "tested everything with Windows XP", and then
> thankfully were nice enough to remove that software from my computer.
> So for better or worse I take it that the hardware works and that

  The thing I would suggest at this point is to get in touch with
customer support at Asus - they may have a solution or put you on the
right track anyway. I don't run anything needing SATA so I am almost as
much in the dark as you are :)

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Re: Capital letter A before package name in aptitude

[Kees de Koster]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Watson wrote:

[...]

> Hello Kees,
>
> The capital A means that aptitude has marked the package as being=20
> automatically installed.  This means that the package was installed because=
>=20
> it is a dependency of something you asked to be installed, and will be=20
> uninstalled if you remove that package from your system.

[...]

Thanks David, that's clear, my mind was pinned on Archive :-/ so there
was no room for other meanings ;-)

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Re: SSH 'hangs' during authentication

[Jørgen P. Tjernø]

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Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:12:46 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
>> On 2007-06-17T16:44:52+0200, "Jørgen P. Tjernø" wrote:
>>> I'm having some issues with ssh taking about ~12 seconds to connect -
>>> but the ssh session itself is snappy - no lag at all.
>> [...]
>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions? :-)
>> It probably trying to do a forward or reverse DNS lookup.  Does it make 
>> a difference if you use an IP address intead of a hostname?
> 
> It might also help to use
> 
> ssh -o 'GSSAPIAuthentication no' ...
> 
> on the client
> 
> and/or to add
> 
> UseDNS no
> 
> to /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server. (I think the ssh daemon has to be
> restarted for this to take effect.)
> 
> You can of course also put the "GSSAPIAuthentication no" option into
> your ~/.ssh/config on the client.

The DNS names shouldn't resolve from outside, but I do use an IP to
connect to it (i.e. the hostname of the remote host is a local hostname
that doesn't resolve on my end, and vice versa).
UseDNS no didn't make any difference, but disabling GSSAPI on the client
made it quite snappy again. I wonder why GSSAPI slows it down so, :-)

Thanks a lot for your help, both of you!

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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/17/07 14:22, Telly Williams wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:


I think that depends on how restrictive your SELinux setup is. Can you
turn SELinux off and try to install slib again?

  
Whoa.  I did 'echo 0 >/selinux/enforce' and now everything works, 
including Open Office.  Thanks Florian.


I just began using SELinux and trying to understand how everything 
works.  Why wouldn't it let me install slib while I was root?  Is it 
that there's no such thing as a Super User in SELinux?  ~Telly


Turning off SELinux doesn't tell you *why* SELinux complained.

Monitoring syslog with SELinux active while trying to install the 
package will (try to) tell you what kind of policy you need.


Red Hat is writing some sort of policy assistant that should help in 
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Re: Capital letter A before package name in aptitude

[Oscar Mederos]

2007/6/17, Kees de Koster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hello, can't find the meaning from the capital letter A before the
package name in aptitude, not in the help, Faq and man, also looked
around in Google.

So maybe somebody can tell me.


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instance, the package webmin might have the following synopsis:

piAU  webmin+5837kB  1.160-2

The four characters on the left-hand side of the synopsis show that the package
is not installed (``p''), that it is going to be installed (``i''), that it was
automatically chosen to be installed (``A''), and that it is untrusted (``U'').
On the right-hand side of the synopsis, the current version and the most recent
available version are displayed, along with an indication of how much space will
be used by the upgrade.
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/usr/share/doc/aptitude/README ;-)


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Re: Capital letter A before package name in aptitude

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On Sunday 17 June 2007 20:38:43 Kees de Koster wrote:
> Hello, can't find the meaning from the capital letter A before the
> package name in aptitude, not in the help, Faq and man, also looked
> around in Google.
>
> So maybe somebody can tell me.
>
> Kees
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Hello Kees,

The capital A means that aptitude has marked the package as being 
automatically installed.  This means that the package was installed because 
it is a dependency of something you asked to be installed, and will be 
uninstalled if you remove that package from your system.

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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 03:22:19PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:
> 
> > > > > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > > > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > > > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > > > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems
> > > > promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the
> > > > installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to
> > > > read itself...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have
> > > trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE
> > > most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel
> > > Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player.
> > 
> > Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection.
> > It is a DVD reader/recorder.
> > 
> > For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of
> > the Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather
> > long list of CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick.
> 
> 
>From a quick Google search I found some  Linuxers running the
> drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the Bios is
> the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer?
> 
> 


Yeah, I actually googled first before deciding to buy these components. I 
bought the components from a company here that assembled the parts, "tested 
everything with Windows XP", and then thankfully were nice enough to remove 
that software from my computer. So for better or worse I take it that the 
hardware works and that there is a setup problem. As I say, I tried the three 
options to set up SATA, being  *IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID,  * SATA mode 
(sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID  and  * RAID mode - AHCI 
enabled, RAID enabled.


There didnt appear to be much else to do in the BIOS settings, but I am no big 
expert.

thanks Peter


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Re: DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 17 June 2007 20:40, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 16:39:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> > I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that the
> > monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or so, and up
> > to last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff) this had been
> > working ok.
> >
> > This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the machine,
> > just to make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and now I find that
> > the monitor is again going into standby after some 30mins or so. The
> > "options DPMS" line is still commented out, but appears to be being
> > ignored.
> >
> > I read a while back that xorg.conf was being deprecated, and would no
> > longer be necessary. If that is so, and these x updates have made that
> > change, where do I go now to stop DPMS being used.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any pointers toward the file I need to look at.
>
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not depreciated yet. If I understand you
> correctly, you had the DPMS line simply commented out in the past. This
> means that you get the default behavior, which can change with an
> upgrade. Try to turn DPMS off explicitly by using
>
> Option "DPMS" "false"
>
> in the monitor section of your xorg.conf.
>
> If this does not have the desired effect then you should post the output
> of:
>
> grep -i dpms /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>
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No go with setting DPMS to false. 20mins later after restarting X the monitor 
goes into standby. It's a bit annoying as yesterday before these X updates I 
had no problem, and with just commenting out the "options DPMS" line, the 
monitor would not go into standby mode.

Anyway, this is all I get from grep.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep -i dpms /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(**) Option "dpms" "false"
(**) TRIDENT(0): DPMS enabled

Trident is the driver for the Cyberbladei1 onboard graphics card

A bit annoying, and I'd like to resolve it. There's nothing more annoying than 
reading some document, and then the screen goes black.

Any suggestions welcome.

Nigel.


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Capital letter A before package name in aptitude

[Kees de Koster]

Hello, can't find the meaning from the capital letter A before the
package name in aptitude, not in the help, Faq and man, also looked
around in Google.

So maybe somebody can tell me.

Kees
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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Telly Williams]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

I think that depends on how restrictive your SELinux setup is. Can you
turn SELinux off and try to install slib again?

  
Unfortunately, I have to keep SELinux in Permissive Mode in order to use 
Open Office.  ~Telly



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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Frank McCormick]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 19:46:23 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:

> > > > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > > 
> > > 
> > > It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems
> > > promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the
> > > installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to
> > > read itself...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have
> > trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE
> > most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel
> > Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player.
> 
> Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection.
> It is a DVD reader/recorder.
> 
> For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of
> the Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather
> long list of CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick.


   From a quick Google search I found some  Linuxers running the
drive...so it would seem selecting the proper SATA setup in the Bios is
the key. Did your MB come setup in the computer?


Cheers

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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Telly Williams]

Florian Kulzer wrote:


I think that depends on how restrictive your SELinux setup is. Can you
turn SELinux off and try to install slib again?

  
Whoa.  I did 'echo 0 >/selinux/enforce' and now everything works, 
including Open Office.  Thanks Florian.


I just began using SELinux and trying to understand how everything 
works.  Why wouldn't it let me install slib while I was root?  Is it 
that there's no such thing as a Super User in SELinux?  ~Telly



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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Telly Williams]

Christopher Nelson wrote:



I don't see this mentioned in the bug reports.
Are you running stable, testing, or unstable?
What happens if you run an `apt-get -f install`?

Also--I think your openoffice issue is a separate one.  What is it
doing?  Do you get a splashscreen, then it quits?  Does it appear to do
nothing?  if you run it from a terminal emulator, do you see any errors?

  
I'm running SELinux(Debian, Stable).  I've never had this problem with 
other installations.  The only thing different now is that I have 
SELinux and Shorewall installed.


After running apt-get -f install:

ephome:/home/telly# clear; apt-get -f install

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Setting up guile-1.6-slib (1.6.8-6) ...
/usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
requires: Permission denied

dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
 Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gnucash:
gnucash depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
 Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
gnucash depends on g-wrap; however:
 Package g-wrap is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing gnucash (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
guile-1.6-slib
g-wrap
gnucash
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
ephome:/home/telly#

   After running dpkg -C:

ephome:/home/telly# dpkg -C
The following packages have been unpacked but not yet configured.
They must be configured using dpkg --configure or the configure
menu option in dselect for them to work:
g-wrap   scripting interface generator for C
gnucash  A personal finance tracking program

The following packages are only half configured, probably due to problems
configuring them the first time.  The configuration should be retried using
dpkg --configure  or the configure menu option in dselect:
guile-1.6-slib   Guile SLIB support

Running dpkg --configure guile-1.6-slib:

ephome:/home/telly# dpkg --configure guile-1.6-slib
Setting up guile-1.6-slib (1.6.8-6) ...
/usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
requires: Permission denied

dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
Errors were encountered while processing:
guile-1.6-slib

When I start OO from GUI, the splashscreen starts then quits.  From a 
terminal, I get:


ephome:/home/telly# openoffice
javaldx: Could not find a Java Runtime Environment!
no suitable windowing system found, exiting.

** (process:18653): WARNING **: Unknown error forking main binary / 
abnormal early exit ...


I tried installing the java-package but I get errors with that, as 
well.  ~Telly



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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 11:40:38 -0600, Telly Williams wrote:
> Orestes leal wrote:
> >On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:21:20 -0600 Telly Williams wrote:
> >
> >your user doesn't have privilegies to do this, do it as root.
> >
> >  
> >>Here's what I get:
> >>
> >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
> >>Password:
> >>ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade

[...]

> >>Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
> >>/usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
> >>libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
> >>requires: Permission denied
> >>dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
> >> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127

[...]

> I thought that I/ was/ root.  See where I entered su and then the password?  
> Does it have anything to do with me using SELinux (I hope that doesn't sound 
> silly)?  Entering su under SELinux should be the same.  ~Telly

I think that depends on how restrictive your SELinux setup is. Can you
turn SELinux off and try to install slib again?

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Re: DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 16:39:40 +0200, Nigel Henry wrote:
> I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that the 
> monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or so, and up to 
> last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff) this had been working ok.
> 
> This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the machine, just 
> to 
> make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and now I find that the monitor 
> is again going into standby after some 30mins or so. The "options DPMS" line 
> is still commented out, but appears to be being ignored.
> 
> I read a while back that xorg.conf was being deprecated, and would no longer 
> be necessary. If that is so, and these x updates have made that change, where 
> do I go now to stop DPMS being used.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any pointers toward the file I need to look at.

/etc/X11/xorg.conf is not depreciated yet. If I understand you
correctly, you had the DPMS line simply commented out in the past. This
means that you get the default behavior, which can change with an
upgrade. Try to turn DPMS off explicitly by using

Option "DPMS" "false"

in the monitor section of your xorg.conf. 

If this does not have the desired effect then you should post the output
of:

grep -i dpms /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: disk temp monitoring - critical temperature reached

[Tony]

pol wrote:

pol wrote:
  

After  ms-windows xp has been running for hours, the lapto  is mildly warm
on the lower side, so the overheating issue seems to rise only when linux
is running.
I have updated the bios and now things are getting better with linux.
Until my laptop is plugged in, it is almost cold when touching the lower
side, even colder that when ms-windows is running.



Update: overheating still happens, even the bios new version, although less
often. Auto-shutting down of my hp tc4200 laptop due to critical
temperature reached happended yesterday. 
I cannot say the reason. Low cpu load. I am running kernel 2.6.20 / kubuntu 


(since ubuntu is not debian, i am forwarding also to the ubuntu mailing
lists) 



Any ideas?

thank you 
--

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Try cleaning it Ive had this problem here is your service manual..

http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport...eriesId=457948 



You can all so use a small flexible rubber hose tapped to a vacuum and 
carefully suck out any dust followed with a good blast with canned air 
if your not comfortable with taking it apart.


One of my laptops a T-60 always runs hot regardless of what OS its 
running so I use a little folding stand to let air flow underneath, this 
lowers temps considerably as a bonus it tips the key pad forward a 
little and makes typing more comfortable..


http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=AWE09US

Tony D





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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Christopher Nelson]

On 2007-06-17, Telly Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Here's what I get:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
> Password:
> ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 3 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

from here:

> Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
> /usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
> requires: Permission denied
> dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127

to here is the pertinent error.

> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of guile-1.6-slib:
>  guile-1.6-slib depends on slib (>= 3a2-3); however:
>   Package slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
>  g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
>   Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

These won't go through until slib is setup.

> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  slib
>  guile-1.6-slib
>  g-wrap
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> I tried to install slib, guile-1.6, guile-1.6-slib.  I get the same 
> error each
> time.  I tried to install gnucash and that's how I first got this 
> error.  I can't
> even use openoffice (it won't run).  The guile-1.6-libs won't install 
> either.
> What am I missing here?  ~Telly

I don't see this mentioned in the bug reports.
Are you running stable, testing, or unstable?
What happens if you run an `apt-get -f install`?

Also--I think your openoffice issue is a separate one.  What is it
doing?  Do you get a splashscreen, then it quits?  Does it appear to do
nothing?  if you run it from a terminal emulator, do you see any errors?

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Re: Strange reaction to keyboard at first login

[cothrige]

* Chris Bannister ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 12:13:22PM -0500, cothrige wrote:
> > Well, not that I can see.  But, I will admit that I am likely
> > overlooking something.  The complaint, "input: AT Translated Set 2
> > keyboard as /class/input/input4", is in /var/log/messages.  Earlier in
> > the same file there are more of the same, but instead of
> > /class/input/input4 they say /class/input/input0.  I don't remember if
> > that ever came up on screen, but I only remember the input4 quite
> > recently, and I think these older ones predate my current kernel and
> > the problem I am dealing with right now.
> 
> So, have you found the problem?
> 

Nope.  Sad to say I have not.  I have looked into the possible
modules, and I could only find one which seems a candidate for my
problem, ATKBD, and I have this compiled in.  I have yet to find
anything else which may give a clue as to what exactly is going wrong
and so I am just not quite sure what I can tweak right now.  I have
considered recompiling the kernel and using the above as a module and
seeing what happens then, but since I have never used that as a module
before I am just not very confident it will help.

In the meantime I have simply developed a habit of tapping the enter
key twice after booting, and this clears the trouble.  I don't like
that, and I really do think things should work, but at least
everything seems to operate until I can get actually find out what is
going wrong.

Patrick


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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Nigel Henry]

On Sunday 17 June 2007 19:21, Telly Williams wrote:
> Here's what I get:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
> Password:
> ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 3 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
> Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
> /usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries:
> libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object
> requires: Permission denied
> dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of guile-1.6-slib:
>  guile-1.6-slib depends on slib (>= 3a2-3); however:
>   Package slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
>  g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
>   Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  slib
>  guile-1.6-slib
>  g-wrap
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> I tried to install slib, guile-1.6, guile-1.6-slib.  I get the same
> error each
> time.  I tried to install gnucash and that's how I first got this
> error.  I can't
> even use openoffice (it won't run).  The guile-1.6-libs won't install
> either.
> What am I missing here?  ~Telly

Not sure, but you want to sort out the 3 packages that are showing as not 
fully installed or removed. Run dpkg -C as root to see which these packages 
are.

I've had this problem recently with hal. The update process hadn't stopped the 
hal daemon before applying the update, then complained that it couldn't start 
hald because it was already running. If hal or openbsd-inetd are listed, stop 
the daemons with.
/etc/init.d/hal stop
and
/etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd stop

Same goes for your 3rd problem package, but I've only had these two.

Next. Either run as root, apt-get dist-upgrade again, or alternatively.
dpkg --configure hal
then
dpkg --configure openbsd-inetd

Both should complete, and restart the daemons.

Nigel.



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SORRY!!! for triple-posting

[Till Wimmer]

what a mess :(
I first tried to post via news group linux.debian.user...  there wasn't
any error message, so i tried again.


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How to force aic7xxx SCSI card to use synchronous negotiation?

[Till Wimmer]

Hi,

i attached a SCSI RAID system to my debian box. The HBA is a Adaptec 29160.

dmesg shows that the RAID is attached with asynchronous negotiation:

-- snip --
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0

aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

  Vendor: SB-2800T  Model:   Rev: 0001
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 8
 target0:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
 target0:0:0: wide asynchronous
 target0:0:0: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 31)
 target0:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write tests
 target0:0:0: Ending Domain Validation
-- snap--

The RAID should support synchronous negotiation. Cables and termination
are set up correctly. The "synchronous negotiation" option in Adaptec
BIOS is enabled, too. The aic7xxx driver just seems to ignore the
settings from BIOS.

Is there a way to force the HBA to use synchronous neg.?

Any help would be much appreciated!
Till

P.S. The RAID sits on the SCSI-Id 0 - could this be a problem? Maybe
there#s a special meaning of ID=0?





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How to force aic7xxx SCSI card to use synchronous negotiation?

[Till Wimmer]

Hi,

i attached a SCSI RAID system to my debian box. The HBA is a Adaptec 29160.

dmesg shows that the RAID is attached with asynchronous negotiation:

-- snip --
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0

aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

  Vendor: SB-2800T  Model:   Rev: 0001
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 8
 target0:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
 target0:0:0: wide asynchronous
 target0:0:0: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 31)
 target0:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write tests
 target0:0:0: Ending Domain Validation
-- snap--

The RAID should support synchronous negotiation. Cables and termination
are set up correctly. The "synchronous negotiation" option in Adaptec
BIOS is enabled, too. The aic7xxx driver just seems to ignore the
settings from BIOS.

Is there a way to force the HBA to use synchronous neg.?

Any help would be much appreciated!
Till

P.S. The RAID sits on the SCSI-Id 0 - could this be a problem? Maybe
there#s a special meaning of ID=0?




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How to force aic7xxx SCSI card to use synchronous negotiation?

[Till Wimmer]

Hi,

i attached a SCSI RAID system to my debian box. The HBA is a Adaptec 29160.

dmesg shows that the RAID is attached with asynchronous negotiation:

-- snip --
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0

aic7892: Ultra160 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 32/253 SCBs

  Vendor: SB-2800T  Model:   Rev: 0001
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 03
scsi0:A:0:0: Tagged Queuing enabled.  Depth 8
 target0:0:0: Beginning Domain Validation
 target0:0:0: wide asynchronous
 target0:0:0: FAST-80 WIDE SCSI 160.0 MB/s DT (12.5 ns, offset 31)
 target0:0:0: Domain Validation skipping write tests
 target0:0:0: Ending Domain Validation
-- snap--

The RAID should support synchronous negotiation. Cables and termination
are set up correctly. The "synchronous negotiation" option in Adaptec
BIOS is enabled, too. The aic7xxx driver just seems to ignore the
settings from BIOS.

Is there a way to force the HBA to use synchronous neg.?

Any help would be much appreciated!
Till

P.S. The RAID sits on the SCSI-Id 0 - could this be a problem? Maybe
there#s a special meaning of ID=0?



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Re: SSH 'hangs' during authentication

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:12:46 -0400, Allan Wind wrote:
> On 2007-06-17T16:44:52+0200, "Jørgen P. Tjernø" wrote:
> > I'm having some issues with ssh taking about ~12 seconds to connect -
> > but the ssh session itself is snappy - no lag at all.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Anyone have any suggestions? :-)
> 
> It probably trying to do a forward or reverse DNS lookup.  Does it make 
> a difference if you use an IP address intead of a hostname?

It might also help to use

ssh -o 'GSSAPIAuthentication no' ...

on the client

and/or to add

UseDNS no

to /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server. (I think the ssh daemon has to be
restarted for this to take effect.)

I had to do both these things to get rid of the initial delay for ssh
connections between my current desktop computer and my laptop. As far as
I can tell, this is because the two systems are on two separate internal
networks which do not offer full (reverse) DNS support for their
internal IP addresses. Maybe something similar is the case with you.

You can of course also put the "GSSAPIAuthentication no" option into
your ~/.ssh/config on the client.

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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:51:00PM -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:22:07 +0200
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > > > Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > > >Hi all!
> > > > >
> > > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > 
> > 
> > It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems
> > promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the
> > installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to
> > read itself...
> 
> 
> 
>What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have
> trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE
> most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel
> Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Frank

Thanks. I have a DRW-1814BLT from ASUS, which is a SATA connection. It is a DVD 
reader/recorder.

For what it's worth I have just tried to install from the first CD of the 
Testing dist (assembled by Jigdo), although I now got a rather long list of 
CDROM drivers, none of them did the trick.


Thanks, Peter


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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Telly Williams]

Orestes leal wrote:

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:21:20 -0600
Telly Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

your user doesn't have privilegies to do this, do it as root.

  

Here's what I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
Password:
ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
/usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
requires: Permission denied

dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of guile-1.6-slib:
 guile-1.6-slib depends on slib (>= 3a2-3); however:
  Package slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
 g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
  Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 slib
 guile-1.6-slib
 g-wrap
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

I tried to install slib, guile-1.6, guile-1.6-slib.  I get the same 
error each
time.  I tried to install gnucash and that's how I first got this 
error.  I can't
even use openoffice (it won't run).  The guile-1.6-libs won't install 
either.

What am I missing here?  ~Telly


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I thought that I/ was/ root.  See where I entered su and then the 
password?  Does it have anything to do with me using SELinux (I hope 
that doesn't sound silly)?  Entering su under SELinux should be the 
same.  ~Telly



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Re: What's this error message telling me?

[Orestes leal]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:21:20 -0600
Telly Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

your user doesn't have privilegies to do this, do it as root.

> Here's what I get:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
> Password:
> ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> 3 not fully installed or removed.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
> Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
> /usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
> libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
> requires: Permission denied
> dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of guile-1.6-slib:
>  guile-1.6-slib depends on slib (>= 3a2-3); however:
>   Package slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
>  g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
>   Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
> dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  slib
>  guile-1.6-slib
>  g-wrap
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> I tried to install slib, guile-1.6, guile-1.6-slib.  I get the same 
> error each
> time.  I tried to install gnucash and that's how I first got this 
> error.  I can't
> even use openoffice (it won't run).  The guile-1.6-libs won't install 
> either.
> What am I missing here?  ~Telly
> 
> 
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What's this error message telling me?

[Telly Williams]

Here's what I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ su
Password:
ephome:/home/telly# apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
3 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 0B of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
Setting up slib (3a4-4) ...
/usr/bin/guile-1.6: error while loading shared libraries: 
libqthreads.so.12: cannot enable executable stack as shared object 
requires: Permission denied

dpkg: error processing slib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 127
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of guile-1.6-slib:
guile-1.6-slib depends on slib (>= 3a2-3); however:
 Package slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing guile-1.6-slib (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of g-wrap:
g-wrap depends on guile-1.6-slib; however:
 Package guile-1.6-slib is not configured yet.
dpkg: error processing g-wrap (--configure):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
slib
guile-1.6-slib
g-wrap
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

   I tried to install slib, guile-1.6, guile-1.6-slib.  I get the same 
error each
time.  I tried to install gnucash and that's how I first got this 
error.  I can't
even use openoffice (it won't run).  The guile-1.6-libs won't install 
either.

What am I missing here?  ~Telly


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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Frank McCormick]

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:22:07 +0200
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Robinson) wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > > Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > >Hi all!
> > > >
> > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> 
> 
> It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems
> promising (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the
> installer CD is able to get that far but then is no longer able to
> read itself...



   What MODEL is the DVD drive? - Linux in general should not have
trouble with DVD drives READ or RW. The Intel MB is also one of THE
most compatible boards. I run basically the same board with an Intel
Core 2 Duo 2.6 GHZ and an LG DVD player.


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Re: Dynamically unload kernel modules?

[Richard Hartmann]

Just use rmmod.  It will refuse to unload modules that are in use.



At least for ipw2100, that is not the case. It unloads just fine while
eth2 is up and happily transmitting data.


Richard

Re: Need a little help with my network configuration

[Chris]

On Monday 11 June 2007 15:50, Celejar wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:06:17 +0200
>
> Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 June 2007 01:54, Celejar wrote:
> > > On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 16:34:48 +0200
> > >
> > > Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have a box with a usb-nic which uses the zd1211rw module.  The box
> > > > is dist-upgraded to the testing level.  I can connect to the router
> > > > using network-manager and from kde with network-manager-kde just
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > eth1  IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"cjwlan"  Nickname:"zd1211"
> > > >   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point:
> > > > 00:04:0E:96:0F:37 Bit Rate=11 Mb/s
> > > >   Encryption key: XXX   Security mode:open
> > > >   Link Quality=34/100  Signal level=28/100
> > > >   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
> > > >   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> > > >
> > > > Every time I boot, I have to re-enter the passphrase again, but I
> > > > want it to
> > >
> > > What sort of passphrase? What security protocol (WEP, WPA, WPA2, etc)
> > > are you using? What does ifconfig show when you boot before you enter
> > > the passphrase?
> >
> > I'm using WEP and entering the passphrase as hex in network-manager-kde.
> > If I boot with:
> >
> > cat /etc/network/interfaces >>
> >
> > # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> > # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
> >
> > # The loopback network interface
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
> >
> > # The primary network interface
> > # allow-hotplug eth0
> > # iface eth0 inet dhcp
> >
> > Then:
> >
> > ifconfig >>
> >
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:A5:F7:26:6A
> >   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> >
> > eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:72:56:84:A9
> >   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:104 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:4368 (4.2 KiB)
> >
> > loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >   RX bytes:732 (732.0 b)  TX bytes:732 (732.0 b)
> >
> >
> >
> > After I log in as user and enter the passphrase in network-manager-kde:
> >
> > ifconfig >>
> >
> > eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:A5:F7:26:6A
> >   UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >   RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)
> >
> > eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:02:72:56:84:A9
> >   inet addr:192.168.178.27  Bcast:192.168.178.255 
> > Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::202:72ff:fe56:84a9/64 Scope:Link
> >   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:3570 errors:0 dropped:43 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:2092 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> >   RX bytes:4986730 (4.7 MiB)  TX bytes:130461 (127.4 KiB)
> >
> > loLink encap:Local Loopback
> >   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
> >   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> >   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
> >   RX packets:57 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> >   TX packets:57 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> >   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> >   RX bytes:3700 (3.6 KiB)  TX bytes:3700 (3.6 KiB)
> >
> > iwconfig >>
> >
> > eth1  IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:"essid"  Nickname:"zd1211"
> >   Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point:
> > 00:04:0E:96:0F:37 Bit Rate=11 Mb/s
> >   Encryption key:"passphrase"   Security mode:open
> >   Link Quality=99/100  Signal level=32/100
> >   Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
> >   Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
> >
> > And everything is ok. The interface as such works, but I'm having trouble
> > getting eth1 up automatically either:
> >
> > 1) using network-manager which should actually automatically do it, but
> > always askes for the passpharse instead; or
> >
> 

Re: Enable vim color?

[Wayne Topa]

Vladimir Strycek([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi all,
> 
> i used vim before on debian and when i was editing my python scripts ( i 
> use vim mainly for python coding ) i've got nice colored syntax and so 
> on... here in debian i have only black and white.
> 
> I tried command :syntax enable or :syntax on but it say " Sorry, the 
> command is not available in this version: syntax on" but mine version of 
> vim is  7.0.122 which is not that old i think.
> 
> Any idea how to enable this ? or better yet any specialized colored 
> python editor for console ssh ?

I am runing vim/vim-common 1:7.0-219+1 in testing.  ISTR that on a
recent upgrade, I to, lost syntax highlighting.  Looking in the .vimrc
I found this, which was commented out.
-
" Vim5 and later versions support syntax highlighting. Uncommenting the next
" 3 lines enables syntax highlighting by default.
if has("syntax") && &t_Co > 2
  syntax on
syntax on
au FileType c syntax on
---

HTH

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Re: SSH 'hangs' during authentication

[Allan Wind]

On 2007-06-17T16:44:52+0200, "Jørgen P. Tjernø" wrote:
> I'm having some issues with ssh taking about ~12 seconds to connect -
> but the ssh session itself is snappy - no lag at all.

[...]

> Anyone have any suggestions? :-)

It probably trying to do a forward or reverse DNS lookup.  Does it make 
a difference if you use an IP address intead of a hostname?


/Allan


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Re: Commandline FTP tool to sync mirror @ISP

[Nelson Castillo]

Can anyone recommend a tool for this?


Also "ckermit". It belongs to non-free because of some
cryptography options (I think -- I am not sure).

http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpclient.html
http://packages.debian.org/ckermit

We used it with this program 2 years ago.
http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/file-mirror
This one will only send the files that changed

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Re: Commandline FTP tool to sync mirror @ISP

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/17/07 10:14, Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello,

unfortunatly my ISP allow only FTP and it is not realy easy to update
the FTP/Webspace by hand.

What I need is a full automated FTP commandline client which can sync
my local mirror (Laptop) with the ISP.  I mean, not only upload files
but deletiong fils on the ISP's mirrors too (= creating an exact copy
of my local mirror including subdirectories).

Can anyone recommend a tool for this?

Oh yes, it must work from inside a script without interaction.


ncftpput might be able to simulate what you want.

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Re: how to save Internet radio played by realplayer

[Ed Jabbour]

On Saturday 16 June 2007 22:13, Serena Cantor wrote:
> I use sarge
>
> I listen to Internet radio by realplayer, how to save the broadcast(audio)
> to a file?
>
> I install an extra sound card, connect lineout of one sound card to linein
> of the other sound card, but can't record sound.

vsound will do it:

Package: vsound
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Installed-Size: 108
Maintainer: Eric Van Buggenhaut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.6-4.1
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), sox
Filename: pool/main/v/vsound/vsound_0.6-4.1_i386.deb
Size: 15044
MD5sum: df959bf968f464e0e68a0142912522f4
SHA1: 99f7aaa531d7124cd739460da3b5ea2f6653a868
SHA256: f4c9b34d6cfa3fb2c428bce1ca552167ce274b2e3ab0ce5e4f2eb8901c066693
Description: Virtual loopback sound recorder and real audio converter
 This program allows you to record the output of any standard OSS
 program (one that uses /dev/dsp for sound) without having to modify or
 recompile the program. It uses sox to convert and save the raw data
 into the desired file format and can help to convert real audio files
 to some other non-proprietary format.


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Re: Commandline FTP tool to sync mirror @ISP

[Magnus Pedersen]

Michelle Konzack wrote:

Hello,

unfortunatly my ISP allow only FTP and it is not realy easy to update
the FTP/Webspace by hand.

What I need is a full automated FTP commandline client which can sync
my local mirror (Laptop) with the ISP.  I mean, not only upload files
but deletiong fils on the ISP's mirrors too (= creating an exact copy
of my local mirror including subdirectories).

Can anyone recommend a tool for this?


I think lftp is your best bet.

/Magnus


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Re: PEAR on debian

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/17/07 10:10, Rick Pasotto wrote:

I have the php-pear package installed. When I try to install a PEAR
package (as root using 'pear install Package) it seems to install ok but
then I'm unable to use it.  can't find it,
nor can I. The php include path is
'include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear'. 


'pear list' shows it as being installed.

Could someone explain to me what's going on?


Maybe one of these packages is already installed?

$ apt-cache search php | grep pear | sort
php-pear - PEAR - PHP Extension and Application Repository
php-xml-util - a XML utility for php-pear
php4-pear - PHP Extension and Application Repository (transitional 
package)


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SSH 'hangs' during authentication

[Jørgen P. Tjernø]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm having some issues with ssh taking about ~12 seconds to connect -
but the ssh session itself is snappy - no lag at all. The load average
on the remote host is fine, and both local and remote DNS queries work
like they should. The problem is there wether I use publickey or
keyboard-interactive auth.

Anyone have any suggestions? :-)

This is using ssh -vvv host:
[ .. snip .. ]
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-8ubuntu1
debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
# HANGS FOR A WHILE HERE!
debug1: An invalid name was supplied
Cannot determine realm for numeric host address

debug1: An invalid name was supplied
A parameter was malformed
Validation error

# HANGS FOR A WHILE HERE!
debug1: An invalid name was supplied
Cannot determine realm for numeric host address

debug1: An invalid name was supplied
A parameter was malformed
Validation error

debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[ .. snip .. ]
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

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Re: hotplugging ide harddrive

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-06-04 10:40:40, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> With any 2.5" drive, or only drives certified by Lenovo?

With any.

> Besides, laptops only have 1 hard drive, no?

It depends, since my TP570 show me 4 devices
/dev/hdaInternal HDD
/dev/hdb
/dev/hdcExternal CR-Rom
/dev/hdc

I hve put an adaptor on the internal HDD connector
with a cable and put at then and a small adaptor
to connect TWO 2"5 HDD's.  It just worked.

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Re: /media directory has unused "phantom directories" with hidden files .created_by_pmount

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-31 19:16:51, schrieb Mitchell Laks:
> What are they for? 
> Can I delete them without worrying about them? What created them?
> Now what is the purpose of these files/directories?

> So to summarize, can I blow away these 3 directories and what created them?

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  If the mount point does not exist, it will be created.

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Re: I am ANGRY with Debian.

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-31 08:57:43, schrieb Douglas Allan Tutty:
> Instead of focusing on having more and more packages, we should be
> focusing on the quality of what we've already got.  Such quality would
> include quality docs.  Documentation seems to be the bane of many/most
> free/open software distros.

..and when do you start?

Note: My own software/packages come with documentation but they bother
  me since I am not Author/Ecrivain.  --  I hate writing docs!

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Re: trouble building glibc-2.5 and gcc-4.1.2

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-24 15:13:28, schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez:
> Why on earth would you update glibc without just upgrading the rest of
> the system?

The half system conflict with 2.5 and an "apt-get dist-update" will
leave your system unusable...  it remove dpkg before glibc 2.5 is
installed! -- Oops!

And of course, I had problem with my Self-Cooked 2.6.21 and glibc 2.5.

:-/

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Re: Opening 300MB sent mail file

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-30 09:45:57, schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
> Are there any debian app's which can handle this file ?

M M  U U  TTT  TTT
MM   MM  U U TT
M M M M  U U TT
M  M  M  U U TT
M M  U U TT
M M   U  TT

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Re: xterm fonts

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-28 08:03:34, schrieb Deboo ^:
> How do you set it up right? And what is the advantage of
> .~/Xresources/ over ~/.Xresources file other than having separate host
> files?

In the directory ~/.Xresources/ you have the same files like in
/etc/X11/app-defaults while in the file ~/.Xresources you must
write all together and must be carefull if you use wildcard like

*label: Deboo

Put it into the FILE ~/.Xresources and start "xfontsel", "xman" and
"editres".

Now delete it and put it into a file ~/.Xresources/editres and
~/.Xresources/editres-color

Run again "xfontsel", "xman" and "editres".

You can try it out and you will be surprised...

This, why I have heavy problems writing themes for xbase-clients and
l10n stuff:

YOU CAN NOT USE WILDCARDS and IF YOU USE IT, YOU SHOULD KNOW, WHAT YOU DO!

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Commandline FTP tool to sync mirror @ISP

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello,

unfortunatly my ISP allow only FTP and it is not realy easy to update
the FTP/Webspace by hand.

What I need is a full automated FTP commandline client which can sync
my local mirror (Laptop) with the ISP.  I mean, not only upload files
but deletiong fils on the ISP's mirrors too (= creating an exact copy
of my local mirror including subdirectories).

Can anyone recommend a tool for this?

Oh yes, it must work from inside a script without interaction.

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Re: xterm fonts

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2007-05-31 03:06:13, schrieb Deboo ^:
> On 5/25/07, Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Please see my project :
> >
> >
> 
> 
> You have a wonderful project. Only if it was available in English ...

Thanks or your comment.

Yeah, first I must get all Resources and Widgets aut of the programs
which can only be done by hand.  Parallel I am translation into german.
Oh, the localization is realy heavy since you can not do it directly
and the Build-System NEED to run all needed locales!

Currently I have not realy much time on it, since my contract with the
french "Ministry Of Defense" is running out (2007-07-31) and I have the
need to find a bunch of new customers...

Also i have to update some other packages I have.

tdcrontab   user crontabs over multipe machines
tddebidate  show installed Debian-Packages  :-)
tdfvwm-controllcenter   :-)
tdfvwm-icons
tdfvwm-l10n for fvwm's gettext capilities
tdfvwm-menu 1.0.0   is now in sync with menu 2.1.33
tdfvwm-sidebars Realy huge
tdfvwm-titlebarsButtons and...  (All selfmade)
tdloggerlet you whatch logs you want
tdsmstools  based on smstools v3 and multiuser

So, since tdapp-defauls reauires traching of all Xaw widgets by hand it
consumes heavay time... and there is already a discusion about droping
some X-Clients (on which I will take over Upstream since there is no
equivalent under Linux except acception bloatware like KDE or Gnome)

But I continue the work on tdapp-defaults.

Unfortunatly my ISP does not allow files over 1.5 Mbyte and my diskspace
is limited to 60 MByte so anly a small amount of my packages and mirror
is availlable...

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PEAR on debian

[Rick Pasotto]

I have the php-pear package installed. When I try to install a PEAR
package (as root using 'pear install Package) it seems to install ok but
then I'm unable to use it.  can't find it,
nor can I. The php include path is
'include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear'. 

'pear list' shows it as being installed.

Could someone explain to me what's going on?

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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Thias]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:22:07PM +0200, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > > Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > >Hi all!
> > > >
> > > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > > >etc
> > > >
> > > >I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize 
> > > >the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from 
> > > >floppy. 
> > > >I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I 
> > > >would imagine that the problem is the  SATA controller controller of the 
> > > >Intel board, which has three modes of operation:
> > > >
> > > >* IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID
> > > >* SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID
> > > >* RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled
> > > >
> > > >I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise 
> > > >because 
> > > >I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of 
> > > >reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the 
> > > >box 
> > > >with linux...
> > > >
> > > >I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions.
> > > >
> > 
> > Hi Peter,
> > 
> > Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA?
> > You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware.
> > 
> 
> 
> It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising 
> (/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to 
> get that far but then is no longer able to read itself...
> 
> I have seen that Ubuntu can be booted via USB stick in order to get a working 
> system running. I believe something similar is possible for Debian although I 
> have never tried it. Does that seem promising?
> 
> thanks, Peter

Have you tried with some live CD as Knoppix, or the debian/testing
installer?
It might be interesting to see how Knoppix handles the device...

You may try a different setting in your SATA configuration, at least
during the installation. You may have something else than AHCI, and be
careful on how your sata DVD drive is plugged (master/slave/...)

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Re: Enable vim color?

[Nelson Castillo]

>
Thanks i installed vim-python and its working like charm now :-)


Good :)

It's good to know that you only need "vim-python" if you actually wish to
use vim scripts written in python. To edit python files you'll be fine
with "vim".

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Re: Enable vim color?

[Vladimir Strycek]

Nelson Castillo  wrote / napísal(a):

On 6/17/07, Vladimir Strycek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

i used vim before on debian and when i was editing my python scripts ( i
use vim mainly for python coding ) i've got nice colored syntax and so
on... here in debian i have only black and white.

I tried command :syntax enable or :syntax on but it say " Sorry, the
command is not available in this version: syntax on" but mine version of
vim is  7.0.122 which is not that old i think.


Make sure that you have "vim" installed. You get a minimal one by 
default.


aptitude install vim

Regards.


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DPMS working again after X updates on Lenny

[Nigel Henry]

I'd commented out the "options  DPMS" line in my xorg.conf, so that the 
monitor wouldn't keep going into standby mode every 30mins or so, and up to 
last nights updates, (including a load of X stuff) this had been working ok.

This morning after installing all the updates, I rebooted the machine, just to 
make sure everything was still ok with Lenny, and now I find that the monitor 
is again going into standby after some 30mins or so. The "options DPMS" line 
is still commented out, but appears to be being ignored.

I read a while back that xorg.conf was being deprecated, and would no longer 
be necessary. If that is so, and these x updates have made that change, where 
do I go now to stop DPMS being used.

Thanks in advance for any pointers toward the file I need to look at.

Nigel.


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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Peter Robinson]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 02:17:33PM +, Thias wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> > Peter Robinson wrote:
> > >Hi all!
> > >
> > >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> > >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> > >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> > >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> > >etc
> > >
> > >I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize 
> > >the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. 
> > >I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I 
> > >would imagine that the problem is the  SATA controller controller of the 
> > >Intel board, which has three modes of operation:
> > >
> > >* IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID
> > >* SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID
> > >* RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled
> > >
> > >I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because 
> > >I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of 
> > >reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box 
> > >with linux...
> > >
> > >I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions.
> > >
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA?
> You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware.
> 


It is connected as SATA. There is no entry in /dev/ that seems promising 
(/dev/scd0 is not present). It seems funny that the installer CD is able to get 
that far but then is no longer able to read itself...

I have seen that Ubuntu can be booted via USB stick in order to get a working 
system running. I believe something similar is possible for Debian although I 
have never tried it. Does that seem promising?

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Re: Audio control problem

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun June 17 2007 07:09, Barry Samuels wrote:
> I am running 32-bit Debian Testing with a 2.6.20.1 kernel. I am using
> Alsa modules from that kernel. I don't have any other Alsa packages
> installed except alsamixergui.
>
> I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard which has a Realtek ALC882M
> chipset which works with the snd_hda_intel kernel module.
>
> This all works up to a point. Using KMix, xmixer or aumix I can control
> the speaker volume but not the microphone volume. There are two
> microphone controls on each of those mixers labelled 'Front Mic' and
> 'Mic' and neither of them do anything.
>
> If I use alsamixergui I see many more control sliders than on the
> mixers mentioned above. On alsamixergui, although it also has 'Front
> Mic' and 'Mic' controls, I find that the microphone volume is
> controlled by a slider called 'Capture' which seems to work well
> although it seems that the controls settings are not saved between
> boots. Is there any way of saving the mixer settings?
>
> Why the difference in the mixers controls? Why doesn't KMix have the
> extra sliders that alsamixergui has? I prefer having access to KMix
> from the KDE Panel so that I can adjust volumes on the fly.

I use alsamixer on the console to set the mixer settings and then use "alsactl 
store" to save them. Not sure about the gui apps as I haven't used them in a 
while but that may save your settings.


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Re: Dynamically unload kernel modules?

[Kushal Kumaran]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 12:36:27PM +0200, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I would want to check if a module is in active use by hardware and
> , if not, unload it. I.e. if there is no USB device connected when I
> run this script, I want to rmmod all USB related modules. I have tried
> to get that info via proc or lsmod, but neither worked.
> 

Just use rmmod.  It will refuse to unload modules that are in use.

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Audio control problem

[Barry Samuels]

I am running 32-bit Debian Testing with a 2.6.20.1 kernel. I am using  
Alsa modules from that kernel. I don't have any other Alsa packages  
installed except alsamixergui.


I have an Asus P5W DH Deluxe mainboard which has a Realtek ALC882M  
chipset which works with the snd_hda_intel kernel module.


This all works up to a point. Using KMix, xmixer or aumix I can control  
the speaker volume but not the microphone volume. There are two  
microphone controls on each of those mixers labelled 'Front Mic' and  
'Mic' and neither of them do anything.


If I use alsamixergui I see many more control sliders than on the  
mixers mentioned above. On alsamixergui, although it also has 'Front  
Mic' and 'Mic' controls, I find that the microphone volume is  
controlled by a slider called 'Capture' which seems to work well  
although it seems that the controls settings are not saved between  
boots. Is there any way of saving the mixer settings?


Why the difference in the mixers controls? Why doesn't KMix have the  
extra sliders that alsamixergui has? I prefer having access to KMix  
from the KDE Panel so that I can adjust volumes on the fly.


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Re: Network card found but not configured with Etch / 2.6 kernel

[Ken McCord]

Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

On Sat, Jun 16, 2007 at 12:32:21PM -0400, Ken McCord wrote:
  

Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 08:20:08 -0400, Ken McCord wrote:
  








What happens if you eliminate possible /etc/network misconfiguration and
try to configure it manually with ifconfig instead of eth0 up.

Doug.


  
I tried what you suggested, but same effect.  I also pulled the hard 
drive and put it into two different systems - both times networking came 
up as expected and I was able to access network resources.


Thanks,

Ken


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Re: Network card found but not configured with Etch / 2.6 kernel

[Ken McCord]

Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:

On 14.06.07 08:20, Ken McCord wrote:
  
Have an IBM NetVista 6341-64U system (1.0 GHz Celeron, 512 MB RAM, 
onboard Intel Ethernet adapter) that when Etch boots on it, will detect 
an installed network card, but when networking is configured to start, 
will not start it.  Here's the output of some commands from a fresh boot:


dmesg | grep eth0
e100: eth0: e100_probe: addr 0xfebff000, irq 5, MAC addr 00:02:55:25:65:FB

ifconfig eth0 up
eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device



didn't you turn it off in BIOS setup?
  
Nope, the onboard card is enabled in BIOS.  I also receive the same 
'eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device' message when 
using PCI cards.


Thanks,

Ken


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Re: Enable vim color?

[Nelson Castillo]

On 6/17/07, Vladimir Strycek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi all,

i used vim before on debian and when i was editing my python scripts ( i
use vim mainly for python coding ) i've got nice colored syntax and so
on... here in debian i have only black and white.

I tried command :syntax enable or :syntax on but it say " Sorry, the
command is not available in this version: syntax on" but mine version of
vim is  7.0.122 which is not that old i think.


Make sure that you have "vim" installed. You get a minimal one by default.

aptitude install vim

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Enable vim color?

[Vladimir Strycek]

Hi all,

i used vim before on debian and when i was editing my python scripts ( i 
use vim mainly for python coding ) i've got nice colored syntax and so 
on... here in debian i have only black and white.


I tried command :syntax enable or :syntax on but it say " Sorry, the 
command is not available in this version: syntax on" but mine version of 
vim is  7.0.122 which is not that old i think.


Any idea how to enable this ? or better yet any specialized colored 
python editor for console ssh ?


Best regards
Vladimir


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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Thias]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 06:45:41AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
> >Hi all!
> >
> >I bought a new computer with the following components:
> >Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
> >Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
> >ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
> >etc
> >
> >I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize 
> >the DVD ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. 
> >I have not been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I 
> >would imagine that the problem is the  SATA controller controller of the 
> >Intel board, which has three modes of operation:
> >
> >* IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID
> >* SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID
> >* RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled
> >
> >I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because 
> >I bought this particular combination because, among other things, of 
> >reports in the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box 
> >with linux...
> >
> >I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions.
> >

Hi Peter,

Does your DVD drive is connected as IDE or SATA?
You may have it under /dev/scd0 with that kind of hardware.

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Re: Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Peter Robinson wrote:

Hi all!

I bought a new computer with the following components:
Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
etc

I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD 
ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not 
been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine 
that the problem is the  SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which 
has three modes of operation:

* IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID
* SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID
* RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled

I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I 
bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in 
the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux...

I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions.



Hi Peter,

That's a bummer. I have no solution other than trying different hw. Do 
you have another spare CD drive that you can try with that board?


That would not get you very far though, because the hdd is not 
recognized either?


What does Knoppix offer? Does that boot?

Hugo


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Re: USB enclosure?

[Jochen Schulz]

Zach:
>
> I just bought an external HDD enclosure for my old IDE disks so I can
> attack to my laptop using USB. How do I set this up?

What exactly do you want to achieve? If you don't need automounting, you
don't need to do anything at all. As soon as you plug the drive in, the
necessary module gets loaded automatically and you have to look up the
new device names in your syslog or from dmesg.

> I will not always
> have the same IDE disk in there when I boot (there are 3 HDD) nor will
> I even have the enclosure connected to my USB port every time I boot
> up.

For stable device names, irrespective of the order of plugin, you need
to write udev rules. This is not as complicated as it sounds and there
are a lot of howtos on the net.

That makes it easy to write fstab entries so you can easily mount your
filesystems as a user.

> So how do I handle this? I am running 2.6.18 kernel with udev (and
> no I have no clue how to write udev rules and I hope kernel developers
> abandon udev foolishness in the future and return to devfs + some
> extensions heh).

Don't hold your breath.

> What kernel modules will I need to load setup this device and do I
> just add them to /etc/modules, run depmod -a and reboot?

You need to do nothing at all.

> And then lsmod to verify they were loaded and just plugin the
> drive enclosure? Do I need create a special device for USB? I would
> like /etc/fstab to automatically load the enclosure drive if it
> detects it was attached on boot up.

In this case you need some sort of auto mounting program. I cannot
comment on that since I don't use such a program. If you are you using
Gnome oder KDE, this is probably a complete non-issue.

J.
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Re: USB enclosure?

[Wang Xu]

On Sun, Jun 17, 2007 at 04:24:34AM -0400, Zach wrote:
> I just bought an external HDD enclosure for my old IDE disks so I can
> attack to my laptop using USB. How do I set this up? I will not always
> have the same IDE disk in there when I boot (there are 3 HDD) nor will
> I even have the enclosure connected to my USB port every time I boot
> up. So how do I handle this? I am running 2.6.18 kernel with udev (and
> no I have no clue how to write udev rules and I hope kernel developers

If you have hal installed, you are not required to write any udev
rules, and you may use pmount mount them or use gnome-volume-manager
mount them automatically if you use gnome.

> abandon udev foolishness in the future and return to devfs + some
> extensions heh). What kernel modules will I need to load setup this
> device and do I just add them to /etc/modules, run depmod -a and
> reboot? And then lsmod to verify they were loaded and just plugin the
> drive enclosure? Do I need create a special device for USB? I would
you do not need manually load any modules at all in most condintions.

> like /etc/fstab to automatically load the enclosure drive if it
> detects it was attached on boot up.
> 
> Zach

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Installing Etch on an Intel DG965WH Board

[Peter Robinson]

Hi all!

I bought a new computer with the following components:
Intel Desktop Board DG965WH
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.40 GHz (6600)
ASUS DVD Recorder/DVD optical drive
etc

I am trying to install Debian Etch but the installer does not recognize the DVD 
ROM drive and offers the opportunity to add a driver from floppy. I have not 
been able to find the right thing. From a search in Google, I would imagine 
that the problem is the  SATA controller controller of the Intel board, which 
has three modes of operation:

* IDE mode - no AHCI, no RAID
* SATA mode (sometimes called AHCI mode) - AHCI enabled, no RAID
* RAID mode - AHCI enabled, RAID enabled

I have tried all three modes with no success. I am a bit surprise because I 
bought this particular combination because, among other things, of reports in 
the internet that the board worked more or less out of the box with linux...

I would appreciate any ideas on where to look for solutions.

Thanks, Peter :-}


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Dynamically unload kernel modules?

[Richard Hartmann]

Hi all,

I would want to check if a module is in active use by hardware and
, if not, unload it. I.e. if there is no USB device connected when I
run this script, I want to rmmod all USB related modules. I have tried
to get that info via proc or lsmod, but neither worked.


Any hints appreciated,
Richard

Re: ulogd postgreSQL module problem

[vizze]

Chris Bannister wrote:


Yup. ulogd_PGSQL.c  LINE 1: insert into public.ulog ) values )

Without seeing the line, I'm guessing it should be ") values ("
instead of ") values )"

Does this make any sense?


Yes, the query is totally wrong to me, but i can't figure why...


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Re: disk temp monitoring - critical temperature reached

[pol]

pol wrote:
> After  ms-windows xp has been running for hours, the lapto  is mildly warm
> on the lower side, so the overheating issue seems to rise only when linux
> is running.
> I have updated the bios and now things are getting better with linux.
> Until my laptop is plugged in, it is almost cold when touching the lower
> side, even colder that when ms-windows is running.

Update: overheating still happens, even the bios new version, although less
often. Auto-shutting down of my hp tc4200 laptop due to critical
temperature reached happended yesterday. 
I cannot say the reason. Low cpu load. I am running kernel 2.6.20 / kubuntu 

(since ubuntu is not debian, i am forwarding also to the ubuntu mailing
lists) 


Any ideas?

thank you 
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