ipw3945d starts but not detecting the hardware...

[bejnet]

I compiled from scratch - getting tar of ipw3945-1.2.1.tgz, 
ipw3945-ucode-1.14.2.tgz and ipw3945d-1.7.22.tgz.

[b]# ps | grep ipw[/b]
3961 pts/000:00:00 ipw3945d

[b]# lsmod | grep ipw[/b]
ipw3945   174016  1
ieee80211  43372  1 ipw3945
firmware_class  9600  2 ipw3945,pcmcia

for me iwconfig still doesn't show the hardware even though lspci shows.

[b]# lspci -v | grep 3945[/b]
10:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network 
Connection (rev 02)

[b]
# iwconfig[/b]
lono wireless extensions.

eth1  no wireless extensions.

sit0  no wireless extensions.


Using Debian 4.0 Etch. Please help.


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/var/log/{syslog,messages}

[William Pursell]

I have a box that powers down pretty regularly, and is
rarely up for more than 24 hours.  I usually shutdown
via /sbin/shutdown from the command line, but occasionally
I'll use the rodent from a kdm screen.  I noticed that
/var/log/messages contains far more "shutting down
for system halt" messages than does /var/log/syslog.

# zgrep halt syslog.*.gz | wc -l; zgrep halt messages.*.gz | wc -l
2
16

My hypothesis is that kdm is logging through syslog, while shutdown
is logging through messages...but it seem odd that kdm doesn't
use shutdown.  Can anyone explain this discrepancy?  (I want
to know date/times for recent shutdowns to compare against
/var/log/aptitude, and I find it annoying that I have to
look in 2 places.)  Is this a bug in kdm?


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Re: kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:59:10PM -0400, P Kapat wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a
> MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo.
> 
> Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB.
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
> 

you definitely need another kernel.

> 
> I have been using linux-image-2.6-486 (which is 32bit) kernel to avoid
> the restrictions (unavailability of flash, media codecs etc) of 64 bit
> platform. Here are my two questions:
> 
> 1. Is it possible to overcome the memory restriction under the current
> setup? At this moment I don't have time to install a 64-bit version
> kernel and go over the whole re-installation procedure.

you could rebuild the 486 kernel with the highmem options set... but
that'll take a bit.

> 
> 2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit
> machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are:
> a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)


> b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)

I think you can install this kernel and see your memory. You have an
AMD, so this should work. though I've not tried it. If it doesn't
work, you'll know first boot... ;) It is a 32bit kernel and will work
with the stuff you already have installed.


> 
> I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor
> come under the k7 class?
> 

if you don't know then you probably don't need it. 

learn to use 'apt-cache search' and 'apt-cache show'.

A


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Re: How I "fixed" my laptop Alps touchpad

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 11:43:19PM -0500, Default User wrote:

[ about how he successfully config'ed X ]

> > Then I rebooted (just logging out of the X session and logging back in
> > without rebooting did not work). 

ctrl-alt-F1

log in as root and issue:

/etc/init.d/gdm restart

or kdm or xdm or whatever dm you are using...

you shouldn't need a reboot.

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Re: opteron 175: only one core recognized

[Tim Yang]

2007/6/27, Tim Yang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

2007/6/27, Bill Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Unless I am mis-reading the AMD spec this chip is a 1-way:
> 
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_8796_9240,00.html
>
> The current kernels should work, but will likely show up as only 1 CPU.
> Bill
>

Well, from the AMD spec I think 1-way means you can only put 1 chip on
the motherboard, but it is still dual-core.

Tim




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Re: How I "fixed" my laptop Alps touchpad

[Default User]

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 23:30 -0500, Default User wrote:
> My laptop has an Alps touchpad (not Synaptics). Running any FOSS system,
> it was too slow. Moving from top to bottom or side to side of the
> touchpad only moved the cursor about 1/2 to 2/3 the height or width of
> the screen. So I was using a mouse (on a laptop?) instead. What the
> hell, it worked. 
> 
> Today, running Ubuntu 7.04, I finally figured out a quick fix for the
> touchpad. All I had to do was, as root, add one line to the
> file /etc/X11/xorg.conf: 
> 
> Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.5"
> 
> (BACK UP THE FILE FIRST, OF COURSE!)
> Then I rebooted (just logging out of the X session and logging back in
> without rebooting did not work). BTW, the acceleration factor of 0.5 was
> chosen at randon, it just happened to work. You may need to use a
> different value.
> 
> It works! For now anyway. And I have freed up a usb port as well. But it
> will take some getting used to using a touchpad rather than a mouse. 
> 
> Hope this helps someone else. 
> 
> 
> 
> 

The little details mean so much. Should have stated the first time that
the line:   

Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.5"

Was added as the last line to the Synaptics Touchpad section of the
file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, like this:

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Synaptics Touchpad"
Driver  "synaptics"
Option  "SendCoreEvents""true"
Option  "Device""/dev/psaux"
Option  "Protocol"  "auto-dev"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta"  "0"
Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.5"
EndSection




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How I "fixed" my laptop Alps touchpad

[Default User]

My laptop has an Alps touchpad (not Synaptics). Running any FOSS system,
it was too slow. Moving from top to bottom or side to side of the
touchpad only moved the cursor about 1/2 to 2/3 the height or width of
the screen. So I was using a mouse (on a laptop?) instead. What the
hell, it worked. 

Today, running Ubuntu 7.04, I finally figured out a quick fix for the
touchpad. All I had to do was, as root, add one line to the
file /etc/X11/xorg.conf: 

Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.5"

(BACK UP THE FILE FIRST, OF COURSE!)
Then I rebooted (just logging out of the X session and logging back in
without rebooting did not work). BTW, the acceleration factor of 0.5 was
chosen at randon, it just happened to work. You may need to use a
different value.

It works! For now anyway. And I have freed up a usb port as well. But it
will take some getting used to using a touchpad rather than a mouse. 

Hope this helps someone else. 




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Re: Any ksh Raw binaries Out there that work for linux i386?

[John Hasler]

Ore writes:
> I know that it's in the repository but I need the raw binary for 386.

I don´t understand what you mean by ¨raw binary¨.  What´s wrong with the
binary in the ksh package?
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Re: emacs: too fast scroll speed when selecting region with mouse

[Tyler Smith]

On 2007-06-26, H.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In emacs, if I start selecting a region in a buffer by clicking the left 
> mouse button and dragging the mouse, the buffer scrolls extremely fast 
> if the mouse moves beyond the lower end of the buffer window. 
>
> Any idea how to solve this one?
>

Not sure, but I'd try playing with larger values of mouse-scroll-delay:


+-+
mouse-scroll-delay is a variable defined in `mouse.el'.
Its value is 0.25


Documentation:
*The pause between scroll steps caused by mouse drags, in seconds.
If you drag the mouse beyond the edge of a window, Emacs scrolls the
window to bring the text beyond that edge into view, with a delay of
this many seconds between scroll steps.  Scrolling stops when you move
the mouse back into the window, or release the button.
This variable's value may be non-integral.
Setting this to zero causes Emacs to scroll as fast as it can.

You can customize this variable.
+-+

HTH,

Tyler


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Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade

[rocky]

On Jun 26, 6:50 pm, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:09:42 -, rocky wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>
>
> > This is the output of the command
>
> > $---code begin$
> > LIJIANG:~# awk '/Section "Files"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> > Section "Files"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
> > FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
> > # path to defoma fonts
> > FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/
> > TrueType"
> > EndSection
> > $-code end --$
>
> That looks OK to me.
>
>
>
> > But I still get the below error
> > $error begin-$
> > (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
> > error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
> > xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
> > xkb_types{ include "complete" };
> > xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
> > xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
> > xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
>
> > Fatal server error:
> > could not open default font 'fixed'
> > XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
> >   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> > $error end-$
>
> > Comment out the glx module in Module section would eliminate the above
> > (EE) problem.
>
> The AIGLX error should not keep X from starting. We can worry about it
> later.
>
> >   but the rest errors remain. If I copy the SecurityPolicy
> > file from my Ubuntu machine to Debian box's /etc/X11/xserver. the only
> > problems left are xkb_ related errors and the fatal error part.
>
> Regarding the SecurityPolicy file: See my other message.
>
> The xkb_ output is normal, it just tells you how the keyboard is
> configured.
>
> We still need to get rid of the "could not open default font 'fixed'"
> fatal error.
>
> > I even aptitude purge the x-window-system away and load it back. But
> > it still not work. Do I need to reinstall the whole Debian Etch?
>
> No, you definitely do not have to reinstall Etch just to get X working.
> At most you need to purge all Xorg (and old XFree86) packages and
> install them again. However, before you do that check out these links:
>
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-informati...http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-fdbbfad9b02233b11ba1572a6318276...
>
> According to the Debian wiki, I would try this:
>
> dpkg --purge --force-depends xfonts-base
> aptitude install xfonts-base
>
> If that still does not help then you should post the output of:
>
> dpkg -l x{org,server,fonts}\* | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
>
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Hey Florian,

Thank you very much for your help!

I reloaded xserver-xorg-core and the SecurityPolicy file is in its
place now.  both dpkg --purge --force-depends xfonts-base and give me
the warning of " warning: /usr/lib/X11/fonts/misc does not exist or is
not a directory".

Therefore startx give me the error of below:
$-error begin--$
  xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
xkb_types{ include "complete" };
xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
xinit:  No such file or directory (errno 2):  no program named "xterm"
in PATH

Specify a program on the command line or make sure that /usr/bin
is in your path.

FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" refcount is 2, should be
1; fixing.
$---error
end--$

The output of the dpkg -l is
$---output begin$
LIJIANG:~# dpkg -l x{org,server,fonts}\* | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
xfonts-100dpi 1.0.0-3
xfonts-75dpi 1.0.0-3
xfonts-base 1.0.0-4
xfonts-encodings 1.0.0-6
xfonts-intl-chinese 1.2.1-6
xfonts-scalable 1.0.0-6
xfonts-utils 1.0.1-1
xfonts-x3270-misc 3.3.4p6-3.3
xorg 7.1.0-16
xserver-xorg 7.1.0-16
xserver-xorg-core 1.1.1-21
xserver-xorg-input-all 7.1.0-16
xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1.1.2-6
xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1.1.0-4
xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.1.1-3
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 0.14.6-1
xserver-xorg-input-wacom 0.7.4.1-5
xserver-xorg-video-all 7.1.0-16
xserver-xorg-video-apm 1.1.

Re: Kolab in debian etch

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 10:02:14PM +0200, Adrián Ribao Martínez wrote:
> Hello, I have a server running under Debian etch. I need to install kolab, 
> but 
> I can't because:
> apt-get install kolabd
> ->kolabd: Depends: kolab-resource-handlers but it is not going to be installed
> apt-get install kolab-resource-handlers
> ->kolab-resource-handlers: Depends: libapache2-mod-php4 but it is not going 
> to 
> be installed
> apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 
> ->The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   horde3 imp4 kronolith2 libapache2-mod-php5 mnemo2 nag2 php5 turba2
> 
> So I can't use horde and Kolab!
> Is there any way of doing it? Or it's a developers job?
> 
Developer's job.  The maintainer of the package must fix it.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=424793

Regards,

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Re: mail server for offline system

[Owen Heisler]

On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 09:57:49AM -0400, Celejar wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 22:40:04 +0100 Hans du Plooy wrote:

Owen Heisler wrote:

Postfix, exim4, or any other decent mail server in Deiban that
(preferrably) can be configured easily with will suffice.  The server
must support Maildir folders, honor the ~/.forward file (perhaps they
all do?), and not attempt to deliver non-local messages when a specified
interface is down.


http://www.postfix.org/STANDARD_CONFIGURATION_README.html#dialup


And for exim, see this:

http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.40/doc/html/FAQ_14.html


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kernel modification and CONFIG_HIGHMEM issue

[P Kapat]

Hi,

I am running Debian unstable on an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and a
MSI K8N Neo4 Mobo.

Problem: Kernel does not recognise all the RAM, it sees only 1GB.

$ uname -a
Linux *** 2.6.18-4-486 #1 Mon Mar 26 16:39:10 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

I had two 512MB modules, recently I added two 1 GB models hoping to
see around 3GB of RAM. But the kernel reads only 1 GB. A little bit of
googling helped me to understand that the kernel is not compiled for
using higher memories.

$ grep HIGHMEM /boot/config-2.6.18-4-486
CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set
# CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set

I have been using linux-image-2.6-486 (which is 32bit) kernel to avoid
the restrictions (unavailability of flash, media codecs etc) of 64 bit
platform. Here are my two questions:

1. Is it possible to overcome the memory restriction under the current
setup? At this moment I don't have time to install a 64-bit version
kernel and go over the whole re-installation procedure.

2. When I do get time and feel comfortable to move to a native 64bit
machine, which kernel should I use? The options I am looking at are:
a) linux-image-2.6-amd64 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)
b) linux-image-2.6-k7 (under amd64 or i386 arch?)
c) linux-image-2.6-vserver-amd64 (amd64 arch only)
d) linux-image-2.6-vserver-k7 (i386 arch only)

I am not sure what the "-vserver-" images are and does my processor
come under the k7 class?

Thanks in advance for the advice. Its much appreciated.

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Roberto C . Sánchez]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 02:58:17PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
> John Hasler wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
> gmane.linux.debian.user:
> 
> > Alan Ianson writes:
> >> I believe kword supports ODF now and I hope this will continue to be the
> >> case with koffice and other word processing applications like abiword in
> >> the future.
> > 
> > The problem is that most Microsoft Windows users cannot deal with ODF.
> > That doesn't matter to me but to some people it is critical.
> 
> I was unaware that openoffice.org was not freely available in win32 binary
> form.
> 
That depends on your definition of "available."  If the person receiving
your document is on dialup and not in a position to download the 100+ MB
OOo or is otherwise not sufficiently proficient to install software,
then you are basically left with "default" windows tools, which are
wordpad, and occasionally works or word.

Regards,

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Paul Johnson]

John Hasler wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:

> Alan Ianson writes:
>> I believe kword supports ODF now and I hope this will continue to be the
>> case with koffice and other word processing applications like abiword in
>> the future.
> 
> The problem is that most Microsoft Windows users cannot deal with ODF.
> That doesn't matter to me but to some people it is critical.

I was unaware that openoffice.org was not freely available in win32 binary
form.

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Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[Paul Johnson]

Chris Lale wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:

> [2] http://archive.daniel-baumann.ch/debian/packages-other/qemu/

Browsing through the tree, I can't figure out how to make a sources.list
line from this... hing please?

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Re: how hot is my xeon?

[Paul Johnson]

Mike McCarty wrote in Article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted to
gmane.linux.debian.user:

> michael wrote:
>> I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
>> doesn't seem to detect anything. I've a Intel Server Board SE7320SO2
> 
> Even if it did, unless you've calibrated the thing you won't know
> the temp.
> 
>> with two 3. GHz Xeon chips. Anybody know how to get mobo/chip/internal
>> temps (and pref fan speeds)... my box gets noisy and I'm trying to see
>> if it's temp related
> 
> What's wrong with simply sticking a thermometer in there? I'm talking
> about a remote-reading one, like those intended to feed a wire through
> your door or window and hang on the roofline or whatever. That will
> give you a calibrated temp reading, not an arbitrary meaningless
> number.

What's wrong with the thermometer supplied by the motherboard, usually in
contact with the underside of the die?  So far, the ones I've come across
have been in proper working, calibrated order when tested against one of
those infrared thermometer gun deals.

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Re: screenshot

[Jose Rodriguez]

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:50:07 +0200
Dan H <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:53:51 +0100
> Jose Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I quickly tried scrot and, out of its man page, I'm not sure
> > which formats does it support, can anybody give me a hint?
> 
> It seems to only do PNG. Doesn't matter; just pipe it through
> some netpbm tools (which I prefer) or imagemagick.
> 
> --D.
> 
By trial and error I've found out it actually does .tiff and .bmp
as well. No .eps, which it would be a no-no for me if it wasn´t
for imagemagick. I now actually use scrot instead of ksnapshot;
command line software have something inherently beautiful with
them...(although I still created a launcher).

Regards

Re: IPW3945 With Etch

[Jose Rodriguez]

> I was able to get it working but only after enabling SSID
> broadcasting on the AP.  This is odd but it works.  I wonder why
> this is?
> 
> -Tom

I don't know the technical reason whatsoever, just know it happens
out of my own experience. The point is: why on earth would you
want to hide the ssid? Certainly not as a security measure. Even
worse, depending on how crowded your area is, you may end up with
some of your neighbours dwelling in the same channel as you are
for they don't "see" you, interfering your precious data.


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Any ksh Raw binaries Out there that work for linux i386?

[Orestes leal]

Hi folks!

I need ksh (The Korn Shell), but in binary form, what site you can recommend me 
to download this binary version
of ksh for linux i386, a web or ftp site with this file it's well accepted.

NOTE: I know that it's in the repository but I need the raw binary for 386.

Best,
Ore.

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emacs: too fast scroll speed when selecting region with mouse

[H.S.]

Hello,

In emacs, if I start selecting a region in a buffer by clicking the left 
mouse button and dragging the mouse, the buffer scrolls extremely fast 
if the mouse moves beyond the lower end of the buffer window. How do I 
correct this behavior? I notice that "Mouse Scroll Min Lines" variable 
is set to 1, so by not moving the mouse too much outside the window, it 
should scroll the buffer by this amount. This doesn't happen however. 
The selected region reaches the end of the buffer in an instant if I 
drag the mouse only slightly outside the buffer window.


This is on Debian Testing with:
$> dpkg -l emacs* | grep ^i
ii  emacs21   21.4a+1-5  The GNU Emacs editor
ii  emacs21-bin-common21.4a+1-5  The GNU Emacs editor's 
shared, architecture
ii  emacs21-common21.4a+1-5  The GNU Emacs editor's 
shared, architecture

ii  emacs21-el21.4a+1-5  GNU Emacs LISP (.el) files
ii  emacsen-common1.4.17 Common facilities for all 
emacsen



Any idea how to solve this one?

thanks,
->HS


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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Wayne Topa]

Gayle Fairless([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  is reported to have said:
>
<>

>=
> 
> 
> I gave up temporarily on network installation and downloaded the iso 
> files for approximately 20 CDROM's.  There was quite a few difficulties 
> getting past system hangs and having to use the rescue mode.  It seems 
> that any install failure requires the user to go back to the partitioner 
> and reformat the / volume.  Even though the basic system has been 
> installed, it seems that the installer cannot pick up where it failed.  
> The installer also hung badly on selinix-policy-refpolicy-targeted file  
> (I may have misspelled this).  The first attempt that got to package 
> selection had desktop system, laptop, and standard system.  That was 
> about 500 packages.  That failed.
> 
> Back to the partitioner, this time I only selected laptop system and 
> standard system.  That was less than a hundred packages so I got the 
> basic system installed.
> 
> Now I can boot the Thinkpad 390 into Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 R0  (etch).

Now your on your way!
> 
> Unfortunately when I attempted to use aptitude to install some small 
> packages such as bzip2, the aptitude program did not like the MD5SUM of 
> the first CDROM.  I am not too concerned about the error but would like 
> to get around it or correct it so I can continue installation of the 
> packages on an individual or custom basis.  Can I read packages off the 
> CDROM's and use apt-get or dpkg instead?  Will an aptitude -f install 
> work to get past the alleged error?
Yes, it should.

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CDROM entries.
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot \
#i386 Binary-1 (20040919)]/ stable contrib main

Then add these, if you haven't already, below them.

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main

Then do the update/upgrade

aptitude update ; aptitude -y upgrade

There have been quite a few fixes to etch since it was released, at least here.

> Oh well, at least I have the basic system back.  I also have mutt and vi 
> already installed!

Don't forget to take a look at vim, the vi with wheels :-)

Hope this gets out (with the correct address).  I have been have a
problem sending mail since the 23rd.  I think I have it back but this
is my first test mail.

Regards

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Re: size and position of iceweasel window

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:00:22PM +0200, mess-mate wrote:




> Si je parle de windoooz, c'est pour que les amis utilisateur windooz
> pourraient communiquer avec les utilisateurs linux.
> 

huh? my french is pretty rusty but it looks like you said

If I talk about windows, its because friends use windows to communicate
with linux users. 

but that has nothing to do with our conversation so...

are you just trolling? or just being funny? I'm not sure

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Re: Install which Linux? (or avoiding dirty birds)

[Gayle Fairless]

Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  is reported to have said:

I'll mention some other stuff for you to ponder.

There, usually, is no need to reboot the system.  When working on
networking you can restart networking, after making changes to the
interfaces file by doing as root  /etc/init.d/networking restart.

$ ifconfig (show what interfaces are up)

The dhcp, in the interfaces file, is the command to get access to your
AP. I have to assume that the netinstall includes the dhcp client.

Wayne

   =


I gave up temporarily on network installation and downloaded the iso 
files for approximately 20 CDROM's.  There was quite a few difficulties 
getting past system hangs and having to use the rescue mode.  It seems 
that any install failure requires the user to go back to the partitioner 
and reformat the / volume.  Even though the basic system has been 
installed, it seems that the installer cannot pick up where it failed.  
The installer also hung badly on selinix-policy-refpolicy-targeted file  
(I may have misspelled this).  The first attempt that got to package 
selection had desktop system, laptop, and standard system.  That was 
about 500 packages.  That failed.


Back to the partitioner, this time I only selected laptop system and 
standard system.  That was less than a hundred packages so I got the 
basic system installed.


Now I can boot the Thinkpad 390 into Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 R0  (etch).

Unfortunately when I attempted to use aptitude to install some small 
packages such as bzip2, the aptitude program did not like the MD5SUM of 
the first CDROM.  I am not too concerned about the error but would like 
to get around it or correct it so I can continue installation of the 
packages on an individual or custom basis.  Can I read packages off the 
CDROM's and use apt-get or dpkg instead?  Will an aptitude -f install 
work to get past the alleged error?


Oh well, at least I have the basic system back.  I also have mutt and vi 
already installed!





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Re: Dual Boot With Win XP - Debian First?

[Mitja Podreka]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the advice so far.  So the only issue that will arise is 
the bootloader will appear to disappear?  Once that is fixed, 
everything will be working correctly?
Yes. The only thing you have to worry is that you install Windows on the 
first partition of  the first disc and that it doesn't install itself 
over the whole disc (I think that HomeEdition does this). I've done it 
many times and Debian was always there, when I fixed the mess left by 
Windows.
I'm still new to a lot of this computer / linux stuff. Where is the 
bootloader anyways?  What's the issue with simply going into bios and 
disabling the hard disk that windows sits on and setting the linux as 
primary drive?  Would that still not let you boot into Linux?
I'm not an expert, but as far as I know BIOS is dealing with hardware ( 
in this case hard disc as a  whole) and not with partitions on that 
disc, so BIOS won't help.


What windows does during the install is overwrite the MBR and thus 
deleting the reference to Linux bootloader. What you have to do is to 
overwrite the MBR again and insert the reference to Windows into GRUB 
configuration.


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Re: size and position of iceweasel window

[mess-mate]

Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
| > On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700
| > Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| > 
| > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
| > 
| > [...]
| > 
| > > > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for
| > > > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told
| > > > where to place a window :-(
| > > 
| > > I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
| > > own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...
| > 
| > Bug #267344 concerns this issue.
| 
| which refers upstream ultimately to:
| 
| https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201
| 
| which is from 2000! but there appears to be an environment variable to
| make it work:
| 
| https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201#c18
| 
| hth
| 
| 
| A
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Re: size and position of iceweasel window

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700
> Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for
> > > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told
> > > where to place a window :-(
> > 
> > I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
> > own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...
> 
> Bug #267344 concerns this issue.

which refers upstream ultimately to:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201

which is from 2000! but there appears to be an environment variable to
make it work:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50201#c18

hth


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Re: size and position of iceweasel window

[Liam O'Toole]

On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:41:06 -0700
Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:

[...]

> > It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for
> > example the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told
> > where to place a window :-(
> 
> I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
> own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...

Bug #267344 concerns this issue.

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[arijit sarkar]

The perfect reply!

On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 19:25 +0300, David Baron wrote:

> OK, OK.
> 
> RTF is Microsoft's
> SQL is IBM's
> JavaScript is Netscape's (Jscript is Microsoft's knockoff, beware)
> HTML, CSS and their children are from W3C (Worldwide Web Consortium)
> XML?
> PostScript is Apple's (really a FORTH derivative, huh?)
> PDF is Adobe's.
> 
> Word, XSL, etc. are from Microsoft.
> and ... Open Document Formats are from Sun
> 
> Do not, I mean DO NOT ever use such formats because larger corporations are 
> involved in them, created them, sometimes violate their own standards. Make 
> everything completely original and thus maintain complete personal control. 
> No one else will want to read the thing anyway :-)
> 
> 

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Re: Apache 2.2 rewrite rule help needed

[Jim Seymour]

On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 09:25 +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Jim Seymour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Running Apache 2.2 on Debian testing and having no luck getting a
> > rewrite rule to work. Straight out of the rewrite guide I am trying the
> > following to force the domain name to always be displayed as
> > www.domain.com even when it is accessed as domain.com.
> >
> > RewriteEngine on
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^www\.domain\.com [NC]
> > RewriteCond %{HTTP_HOST} !^$
> > RewriteRule ^/(.*) http://www.domain.com/$1 [L,R]
> >
> > I have tried many variations of this rule in both the apache virtual
> > configuration as well as an .htaccess file. I have verified via a dump
> > of the modules loaded that the rewrite module is loaded. The Options
> > FollowSymLinks is set and AllowOverride is set to FileInfo. I know the
> > .htaccess file is being read because I can put trash in it and it will
> > result in an Internal Server Error. Once the garbage is removed I can
> > load the web page without error. The rewrite rule never has an effect
> > and never gives any errors. Ideas?
> 
> I am not sure if this helps as I do the opposite, i.e. change all
> www.domain.com requests to domain.com.  I do it two ways.  On my own
> Apache server I do it this way:
> 
> 
> DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/domain.com
> ServerName domain.com
> 
> 
> 
> DocumentRoot /srv/www/htdocs/domain.com
> ServerName www.domain.com
> Redirect / http://domain.com/
> 
> 
> and on a paid for hosting account using Rewrite (in a .htaccess file)
> this also works, but, again, to do the opposite of what you want:
> 
> RewriteEngine on
> rewritecond %{http_host} ^www\.domain\.com [nc]
> rewriterule ^(.*)$ http://domain.com/$1 [r=301,nc]
> 
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Hi Bob,

Thanks. It would appear that in the apache suggested way [RewriteRule
^/(.*)], that the / after the ^ was the problem. It is now working just
as expected.

Thanks Again,

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Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX mobo AMD 64; etch; is it hardware or software? (apparently solved)

[Prismatic Plasma]

On Tuesday 26 June 2007 16:02, Prismatic Plasma wrote:
> memtest86 tests 5 and 8 fail with consistency. They give several failures,
> all in the range 770-880 MB range (1 GB stick). The exact addresses change
> from pass to pass, but always remain in that range. The other tests reveal
> no problems.
>
> At this point, it's definitely a hardware problem. Can I rule out a
> configuration problem? What are the chances of it being mobo or cpu rather
> than ram?

Using the faster memory configuration (CS4-4-4-12), upped voltage to 2.0 V, 
and put memory in second slot seems to have solved the problem. memtest86 
finds no errors, and I was able to compile some large programs without any 
trouble. All 3 of these changes seem to be required. The first memory slot on 
the mobo appears to be bad.

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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[David Baron]

OK, OK.

RTF is Microsoft's
SQL is IBM's
JavaScript is Netscape's (Jscript is Microsoft's knockoff, beware)
HTML, CSS and their children are from W3C (Worldwide Web Consortium)
XML?
PostScript is Apple's (really a FORTH derivative, huh?)
PDF is Adobe's.

Word, XSL, etc. are from Microsoft.
and ... Open Document Formats are from Sun

Do not, I mean DO NOT ever use such formats because larger corporations are 
involved in them, created them, sometimes violate their own standards. Make 
everything completely original and thus maintain complete personal control. 
No one else will want to read the thing anyway :-)


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Re: NeroLinux

[Mike McCarty]

Atis wrote:

On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hi Folks!

Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that 
moment
I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this 
show me
a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the 
$HOME/.nero folder,
reinstalled nero but this won't work, I couldn' imagine WHERE 
nerolinux store this
kind of information to detect the amount of time used and then show 
this message and exit, any help?



Did it required you to enter root's password? If yes, it could be


If a package required me to enter root's password into its installer,
I'd kick it off my machine faster than sliding down a stompslick.


written anywhere in system. If no, you could try to install it for
another user. And check, is your /tmp/ empty after each reboot.


Another likely place is /var

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Re: Using Debian Package Manager

[Marc Shapiro]

BartlebyScrivener wrote:

On Jun 25, 11:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I wanted to install a motherboard monitor.? I found one in the list, xmbmon, 
and chose to install it.? It said installation complete.? However, I have no 
idea how to find it and run it.? It's not showing up in the applications list 
anywhere.



type

whereis xmbmon

at the commandline

rd
  

Or, just type xmbmon & to start it up.

'xmbmon -h' displays a help screen with options, and 'man xmbmon' 
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Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[Mike McCarty]

Chris Lale wrote:



1. QEMU is slow.


Yes, and it's a CPU hog. But, it's faster than BOCHS.


2. If you install kqemu, QEMU will run faster. Make sure to "modprobe kqemu
major=0" first. QEMU will use kqemu automatically if it is installed. Run QEMU
from a terminal window and you will get a message if it is unable to find kqemu.


I haven't been able to build kqemu. It has include path problems.

[snip]


Alternatively, install Daniel Baumann's deb package [2] instead of the official
QEMU package.


I'll look into that. Thanks.


I believe that kqemu reduces processor load. This may be the reason for your
different experience.


Nope. Apparently it was a brain fart.


So... Not off-topic after all. :)


Well, actually off-topic. Most of my testing has been on a Fedora Core
machine :-)

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Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators

[Mike McCarty]

Tom Grove wrote:


I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others.  It 
seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows.  Although 
this is only one person's opinion and there is no "scientific" evidence 
it just feels faster.


Post a URL. I have been running some benchmarks for CPU speed. I haven't
checked out creating/deleting files.

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Re: Dual Boot With Win XP - Debian First?

[Mike McCarty]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I want to dual boot windows XP and Debian.? I've seen the guides, but
they all recommend that users have Windows XP installed first, and
then install Debian.? This allows you to set it up with the default
Debian installation to use GRUB / etc. and dual boot.?


Another possibility is to use the WinXP boot manager/loader
to load GRUB. That's the way I do it. Works great.

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Re: size and position of iceweasel window

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:33:45AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 22:06:12 -0400
> Steve Kleene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:58:45 -0400, I wrote:
> > 
> > > I added this to .Xresources:
> > >   Firefox-bin.geometry: 800x977+0+0
> > >
> > > and it was ignored.  As judged by ls -lu, the file isn't accessed
> > > when I bring up a firefox window.
> > 
> > On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:51:37 GMT, s. keeling replied:
> > 
> > > Add "xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources" to ~/.xsession or ~/.xinitrc (or
> > > both), then restart X.
> > 
> > Thanks.  After that .Xresources was read during startx, but the
> > placement of the firefox window still seemed random, even if I
> > deleted localstore.rdf. I think firefox may just ignore the setting
> > in .Xresources.
> > 
> > 
> 
> It does respect other settings in the X resource database, for example
> the DPI setting, Xft.dpi. But it seems it will not be told where to
> place a window :-(

I think it warrants some bug reports. It should *at least* respect its
own "Mozilla Options" from iceweasel --help...


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Re: stability problem; Asus M2N-MX mobo AMD 64; etch; is it hardware or software?

[Prismatic Plasma]

memtest86 tests 5 and 8 fail with consistency. They give several failures, all 
in the range 770-880 MB range (1 GB stick). The exact addresses change from 
pass to pass, but always remain in that range. The other tests reveal no 
problems.

At this point, it's definitely a hardware problem. Can I rule out a 
configuration problem? What are the chances of it being mobo or cpu rather 
than ram?


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Re: IPW3945 With Etch

[Tom Grove]

Ananda Samaddar wrote:

On Monday 25 June 2007 19:14, Tom Grove wrote:
  

It seems as though I am able to install the modules via module-assistant
and I receive an eth1 with wireless properties.  The problem is that no
matter what I set my AP to I can't connect to it.  I typically just run
with WEP but regardless or whether or not I am using WEP/WPA/Nothing I
can not connect to the AP with this card.  Any ideas or help is much
appreciated.  Thanks.

-Tom



Make sure the firmware-ipw3945 and ipw3945d packages are installed as well.  
If you use GNOME then install network-manager-gnome.  This is the easiest way 
to connect and should work.  There is a document on the Ubuntu wiki (!) that 
works in Debian as well:


https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WPAHowTo

I would use WPA if I were you, WEP is broken and easily cracked.  Hope this 
helps,


Ananda


  
I was able to get it working but only after enabling SSID broadcasting 
on the AP.  This is odd but it works.  I wonder why this is?


-Tom


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Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators

[Tom Grove]

Mike McCarty wrote:

I recently developed a desire to run some emulators under Linux,
and consequently have run some of them. Here are my opinions of them,
based on install, ease of use, and speed of emulation.

The emulators I tried are DOSEMU + Freedos, BOCHS + MSDOS 6.22, and
QEMU + MSDOS 6.22. I found that each had advantages and disadvantages.
I also ran MSDOS 6.0 natively.

Two machines were used. One is an AMD 586 with 16MB of RAM and a
160 MHz processor. Another is a Presario with a 2.7 GHz Celeron.
The AMD was used only for running MSDOS 6.0 natively. The Celeron
was used to run the emulators with Linux, and also to do some
native MSDOS 6.0.

install share   speed   CPU hardwaresoftevents
DOSEMU  easyeasyfastlow Intel only  not all no
BOCHS   hardhardv.slow  highIntel only  all yes
QEMUhardhardslowhighmultipleall no

install:  ease of installation
share:ease of sharing files between emulation and Linux
speed:speed of emulation
CPU:  how much CPU does the emulation burn
hardware: emulates other than Intel hardware
soft: runs all software
events:   supports emulating hardware events

QEMU runs something like 5x to 10x as fast as BOCHS. DOSEMU runs
40x to 50x as fast as QEMU.

BOCHS allows one to emulate various hard drives down to the
level of CHS.

Mike
I would like to see how VirtualBox stands up against the others.  It 
seems to be the fastest emulator when it comes to Windows.  Although 
this is only one person's opinion and there is no "scientific" evidence 
it just feels faster.


-Tom


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Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[David Baron]

On Tuesday 26 June 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 2. If you install kqemu, QEMU will run faster. Make sure to "modprobe kqemu
> major=0" first. QEMU will use kqemu automatically if it is installed. Run
> QEMU from a terminal window and you will get a message if it is unable to
> find kqemu.

I need major=250. The /dev/kqemu node has this.
Time to get this consistant, straight in Debian kqemu package.



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Re: Sound card not working

[Marc Shapiro]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Mon, Jun 25, 2007 at 11:01:30AM -0500, Mike McCarty wrote:
  

Mike McCarty wrote:

[that the sound card isn't working]

Ok, after much fooling around, I find that ESD is running, and
has the DSP open. So, I killed it, 



it should be taken out and shot, IMHO.

we see so many problems related to esd not playing nicely with others.
Yes, that is what I did with artsd from KDE.  I made sure that I purged 
ALL of KDE and GNOME.  Then, when I switched from Sarge to Etch I did a 
clean install (first time in 8 or 9 years) I made sure not to install 
any DTE so as to make sure that there was no cruft lying around.


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Re: looking for a backup package

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 09:27:25AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> 
> I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center.  I'd like 
> to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to those 
> servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using my own 
> server.
> 
> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as 
> this new crop of hosted services?  (Seems like things like Amanda are 
> pretty difficult to set up, for example).

Although you think it's difficult to set up, I'd still recommend amanda. 

Even if it is a difficult setup (config file, tape labelling, clients 
software on clients) it's definitely workable. And after than you're 
only stuck with changing tapes...

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Re: looking for a backup package

[Martin Marcher]

never used it but bacula can do all three (with native clients afaik
for every OS)

personally i stick with amanda windows hosts are backed up thru a
mounted CIFS share

On 6/26/07, Miles Fidelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center.  I'd
> like to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to
> those servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using
> my own server.
>
> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use
> as this new crop of hosted services?  (Seems like things like Amanda
> are pretty difficult to set up, for example).
I guess I should add that the machines I want to back up are a mixed
collection of Linux, Windows, and Mac - so I'm looking for a solution
that can backup/restore Mac files in all their gory details.

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Re: Purge leaves some files

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:46:58AM +0200, Torok Balint <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> Thank you everyone for the help I received.
> 
> I have tried to install/purge the same applications with
> aptitude on another computer and all went well. I conclude
> that the problem came into existance becouse apt-get did not
> purge the package dependencies along with the original
> package. Apt-get tried to purge only the "original" package,
> but left its dependencies intact.

  Actually, aptitude won't purge the dependencies unless you pass
the command-line argument --purge-unused.  So your problem is just
some packages that didn't get removed, not configuration files
left behind.

> Now the problem is there, how can I correct it? How can I
> delete the leftover files? I should determine somehow what
> where the demendencies, and purge them too with apt-get?
> Would this delete the leftover files to?

  Easiest way to get rid of the leftover files is to run 'dpkg -S' on
them and find out which package they belong to, then purge those
packages.  That doesn't guarantee you've got all the dependencies, though.

  Daniel


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Re: looking for a backup package

[Miles Fidelman]

Miles Fidelman wrote:
I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center.  I'd 
like to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to 
those servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using 
my own server.


Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use 
as this new crop of hosted services?  (Seems like things like Amanda 
are pretty difficult to set up, for example).
I guess I should add that the machines I want to back up are a mixed 
collection of Linux, Windows, and Mac - so I'm looking for a solution 
that can backup/restore Mac files in all their gory details.


Miles


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Re: looking for a backup package

[Steve Kemp]

On Tue Jun 26, 2007 at 09:27:25 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center.  I'd like to 
> set 
> something up to allow me to back up my home machines to those servers - you 
> know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using my own server.
> 
> Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as this 
> new crop of hosted services?

  I guess it all depends upon what you're used to.  But if you install
 the rsnapshot program, and setup SSH key-based auth then it is very
 simple to get working:

http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/217

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looking for a backup package

[Miles Fidelman]

Hi Folks,

I run a couple of Debian servers running in a computer center.  I'd like 
to set something up to allow me to back up my home machines to those 
servers - you know, something like mozy or jungledisk but using my own 
server.


Has anybody come across a remote backup package that's as easy to use as 
this new crop of hosted services?  (Seems like things like Amanda are 
pretty difficult to set up, for example).


Thanks much,

Miles


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Re: Solution for avoid to capture password between Browser - Squid

[Matus UHLAR - fantomas]

On 25.06.07 10:35, Javier Enrique Tiá Marín wrote:
> I'm looking alternative a VPN and IPSec for avoid to capture the password 
> between Browser (IE, iceweasel) and Squid,

connecting to squid via ssl probably. squid-2.6 and 3.0beta support SSL from
client's side. That will encrypt all your communication with squid.

> I read [1], it will be the idea, somebody post a example, howto, etc and
> if use a LDAP backend much better.

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Re: OT: Say NO to the Microsoft Office format as an ISO standard

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> Please sign the petition here: http://www.noooxml.org/petition.
> (Cookies have to be enabled for this site.)

JavaScript has to be enabled for wikidot.com as well.

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Re: Purge leaves some files

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Torok Balint wrote:
> Helo!
> 
> Thank you everyone for the help I received.
> 
> I have tried to install/purge the same applications with aptitude on
> another computer and all went well. I conclude that the problem came
> into existance becouse apt-get did not purge the package dependencies
> along with the original package. Apt-get tried to purge only the
> "original" package, but left its dependencies intact. Now the problem
> is there, how can I correct it? How can I delete the leftover files?
> I should determine somehow what where the demendencies, and purge
> them too with apt-get? Would this delete the leftover files to?

Yes. As someone mentioned earlier, take an arbitrary file 'left over' in
that directory and find the package for that file:

dpkg -S filename

then purge that package by aptitude purge

repeat until the directory disappears.

HTH,

Johannes
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Re: RTF - proprietary or open?

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Mike McCarty wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>> Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
> SQL is also theirs...


 Whatever gave you that idea?  IBM created SQL before Microsoft
 existed!  It has been an ISO standard since 1987.
 
>>>
>>> You need to learn some history. MicroSoft predates 1987 by quite
>>> a bit.
>>
>>
>> Um, if memory serves me, IBM created SQL in the '60s.
> 
> But that wasn't his point. I don't know when SQL was created,
> and wasn't making that claim. However, his claim seemed to
> be that MicroSoft doesn't predate 1987, which is absurd.

No. He said that IBM created SQL before MS existed and that it became an
ISO standard in 1987 (after the foundation of MS and after SQL was
created, obviously).

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Re: Virtual Machines/Emulators

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Mike McCarty wrote:

I recently developed a desire to run some emulators under Linux,
and consequently have run some of them. Here are my opinions of them,
based on install, ease of use, and speed of emulation.

The emulators I tried are DOSEMU + Freedos, BOCHS + MSDOS 6.22, and
QEMU + MSDOS 6.22. I found that each had advantages and disadvantages.
I also ran MSDOS 6.0 natively.

Two machines were used. One is an AMD 586 with 16MB of RAM and a
160 MHz processor. Another is a Presario with a 2.7 GHz Celeron.
The AMD was used only for running MSDOS 6.0 natively. The Celeron
was used to run the emulators with Linux, and also to do some
native MSDOS 6.0.

install share   speed   CPU hardwaresoftevents
DOSEMU  easyeasyfastlow Intel only  not all no
BOCHS   hardhardv.slow  highIntel only  all yes
QEMUhardhardslowhighmultipleall no

install:  ease of installation
share:ease of sharing files between emulation and Linux
speed:speed of emulation
CPU:  how much CPU does the emulation burn
hardware: emulates other than Intel hardware
soft: runs all software
events:   supports emulating hardware events

QEMU runs something like 5x to 10x as fast as BOCHS. DOSEMU runs
40x to 50x as fast as QEMU.

BOCHS allows one to emulate various hard drives down to the
level of CHS.



Did you run kqemu with qemu?

Hugo


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Re: how hot is my xeon?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

michael wrote:

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:28 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

michael wrote:

On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 16:36 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote:

I've tried unsuccessfully to monitor my dual Xeon box but lm-sensors
doesn't seem to detect anything. 

Do u have the i2c kernel modules?
 
Pol




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i2c_i8017468  0
i2c_core   19680  3 i2c_dev,nvidia,i2c_i801




Do you have lm-sensors installed?
What does the 'sensors' command show?



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Make sure you loaded all the kernel drivers you need.
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Did you add i2c-i801 to /etc/modules?

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Re: Waking up server during boot prevents NFS mounts after upgrade to etch

[Malte Forkel]

Bob Proulx schrieb:

This is probably related:

  
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-sysvinit-commits/2006-November/000923.html

I agree. Unfortenately, ASYNCMOUNTNFS=no does not give me quite "the old 
init.d/mountnfs.sh behaviour" as advertised in the changelog.



Using sync versus async is completely different and unrelated.  That
has to do with the protocol used after the clients have mounted.
I guess you are talking about something other than the value of 
ASYNCMOUNTNFS, which is what I meant? Sorry, I probably used the wrong 
terms.


I thought you were talking about the sync/async option.  See this
reference for more information.

  http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s05.html#sync_versus_async

Now I got it. So sync/async is a server export option while 
ASYNCMOUNTNFS is a client init option.


I'm not quite sure whether to file a big report. In the end its my 
initscript that causes the problem. On the other hand, without waking up 
server there wouldn't be any mounts at all :-)


I think this would be covered by the 'initscripts' package.  You may
want to look to see if this is already reported in the BTS.

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=initscripts;dist=unstable

I guess, I'll file a bug report for initscripts. They seem to have a 
couple of problems on their hands already at the moment.


BTW: Nice hints on your website, Bob. I now have a .hushlogin :-) And 
thanks again for your help.


Malte


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Re: Epiphany crashes

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 01:28:00PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 08:28:00AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
> > > Any suggestions? Anything I should remove?
> > > 
> > > Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Kumar
> > 
> > Doesn't epiphany store its user preferences under ~/.gconf? You could
> > use gconf-editor to reset epiphany's entries.
> 
> Well, a removal of .gconf also didn't help. Anything else which could
> be wrong?
 
I'm no expert, but perhaps your epiphany profile is broken is some way?

If this is the case, then forcing it to use a new (empty) profile should 
work:
epiphany --profile=whatever --private-instance

This would not tell what's wrong with the old profile, but at least it 
will narrow down your search...

Hope this helps

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Re: Advise and direction required: Network File Server Access

[Nick Adie]

Kevin

Thanks, just got a little muddled and needed the fog clearing,

Regards
Nick


On 6/26/07, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:45:18AM +0100, Nick Adie wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a Network File Server (Netgear NSLU2) which I would like to
access from
> my Debian Webserver, in order to store backups created via
'backup-manager'.
>
> I have read-up on samba and sbmclient and am totally confused as to
which one
> to install.
>
> Regards
> Nick
Like any good server-client combo, you install the server portion on the
server and the client portion on the client. So, the nslug gets 'samba'
and the webserver gets smbclient or an entry in fstab.
This[0] seems to explain it.

[0]
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
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Re: Advise and direction required: Network File Server Access

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On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 10:45:18AM +0100, Nick Adie wrote:
> Hi
>  
> I have a Network File Server (Netgear NSLU2) which I would like to access from
> my Debian Webserver, in order to store backups created via 'backup-manager'.
>  
> I have read-up on samba and sbmclient and am totally confused as to which one
> to install.
>  
> Regards
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Like any good server-client combo, you install the server portion on the
server and the client portion on the client. So, the nslug gets 'samba'
and the webserver gets smbclient or an entry in fstab.
This[0] seems to explain it.

[0] 
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[Nick Adie]

Hi

I have a Network File Server (Netgear NSLU2) which I would like to access
from my Debian Webserver, in order to store backups created via
'backup-manager'.

I have read-up on samba and sbmclient and am totally confused as to which
one to install.

Regards
Nick

Re: Purge leaves some files

[Torok Balint]

Helo!

Thank you everyone for the help I received.

I have tried to install/purge the same applications with
aptitude on another computer and all went well. I conclude
that the problem came into existance becouse apt-get did not
purge the package dependencies along with the original
package. Apt-get tried to purge only the "original" package,
but left its dependencies intact.
Now the problem is there, how can I correct it? How can I
delete the leftover files? I should determine somehow what
where the demendencies, and purge them too with apt-get?
Would this delete the leftover files to?

Toba

Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> írta:

>   There are two possibilities:
> 
>   (1) you still have a package installed that owns those
files.  This
>   is likely the case for the stuff under /usr/share/doc.
> 
>   You can find out which packages have installed a
file with
>   dpkg -S (filename).
> 
>   (2) the package is buggy and doesn't clean up after
itself.  This is
>   likely the caes for stuff under /etc.
> 
>   In this case, slap the maintainer with a bug report.
> 
>   Daniel
> 




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Re: cups-pdf

[Mirco Piccin]

Thanks!


if [ `echo $2 | grep -ce "\.[Pp][Dd][Ff]"` -le 0 ]
>   then
> echo `date` " - ERR: This scripts accepts only PDF format as
> input file!!! ($2)" >> $LOGFILE 2>&1
> exit 1
> fi

This is IMO too Windows-like -- just relying on a filename to guess
content. I'd do it like this:

if [ "$(file -bi $2)" = "application/pdf" ] ...

--D.




I'll update the script.

Anyway, it seems that is possible to do the same thing working directly on
the 'gs' string in the /etc/cups/cups-pdf.conf, in the section 'GSCall'.
Infact i find out that a sintax like "gs watermark_file.ps file.ps" do the
same as the script above.
I'll try also this way.


Regards

Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 06:09:42 -, rocky wrote:

[...]

> This is the output of the command
> 
> $---code begin$
> LIJIANG:~# awk '/Section "Files"/,/EndSection/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Section "Files"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
> FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
> # path to defoma fonts
> FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/
> TrueType"
> EndSection
> $-code end --$

That looks OK to me.
 
> But I still get the below error
> $error begin-$
> (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
> error opening security policy file /etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy
> xkb_keycodes { include "xfree86+aliases(qwerty)" };
> xkb_types{ include "complete" };
> xkb_compatibility{ include "complete" };
> xkb_symbols  { include "pc(pc105)+us" };
> xkb_geometry { include "pc(pc104)" };
> 
> Fatal server error:
> could not open default font 'fixed'
> XIO:  fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
>   after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
> $error end-$
> 
> Comment out the glx module in Module section would eliminate the above
> (EE) problem.

The AIGLX error should not keep X from starting. We can worry about it
later.

>   but the rest errors remain. If I copy the SecurityPolicy
> file from my Ubuntu machine to Debian box's /etc/X11/xserver. the only
> problems left are xkb_ related errors and the fatal error part.

Regarding the SecurityPolicy file: See my other message.

The xkb_ output is normal, it just tells you how the keyboard is
configured.

We still need to get rid of the "could not open default font 'fixed'"
fatal error.

> I even aptitude purge the x-window-system away and load it back. But
> it still not work. Do I need to reinstall the whole Debian Etch?

No, you definitely do not have to reinstall Etch just to get X working.
At most you need to purge all Xorg (and old XFree86) packages and
install them again. However, before you do that check out these links:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#s-xorg
http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg69To7#head-fdbbfad9b02233b11ba1572a631827697766afc4

According to the Debian wiki, I would try this:

dpkg --purge --force-depends xfonts-base
aptitude install xfonts-base

If that still does not help then you should post the output of:

dpkg -l x{org,server,fonts}\* | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'

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Re: set up Xserver for etch upgrade

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Jun 26, 2007 at 03:04:25 -, rocky wrote:

[...]

> Hey,
> 
> further trouble shooting tells me I do not have SecurityPolicy file
> in /etc/X11/xserver directory as well.
> 
> What should I do? Can I just download the file from somewhere?

/etc/X11/xserver/SecurityPolicy is part of the xserver-xorg-core
package. What output do you get for 

dpkg -l xserver-xorg-core

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Re: NeroLinux

[Atis]

On 6/25/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Folks!

Recently i've installed NeroLinux to taste the linux version, at that moment
I didn't get the key, passed a few days when I execute NeroLinux this show me
a alert box that "this program has expired", so I delete the $HOME/.nero folder,
reinstalled nero but this won't work, I couldn' imagine WHERE nerolinux store 
this
kind of information to detect the amount of time used and then show this 
message and exit, any help?


Did it required you to enter root's password? If yes, it could be
written anywhere in system. If no, you could try to install it for
another user. And check, is your /tmp/ empty after each reboot.

Regards,
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Re: [Now really OT]Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[Mike McCarty]

Johannes Wiedersich wrote:

>[mike wrote]


Andrew J. Barr wrote:


kqemu allows code to be executed directly and natively on the
bare-metal processor under certain conditions. This takes QEMU's
dynamic translation engine out of the picture and allows for
near-native performance of x86-on-x86 (32 or 64 bit) situations.

It turns kqemu into less of an emulator and more of a virtualizer, if
that makes any sense to you.



It does, but I haven't been able to get it to compile.



So, why don't you just use debian after all? It seems you've been on
this list long enough to dare to ditch your fedora for the universal OS. :-D


Well, one reason is that I checked again, and QEMU actually does
eat lots of CPU on Debian.

I'd rather use CentOS, I think.

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Re: cups-pdf

[Dan H]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:17:29 +0200
"Mirco Piccin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if [ `echo $2 | grep -ce "\.[Pp][Dd][Ff]"` -le 0 ]
>   then
> echo `date` " - ERR: This scripts accepts only PDF format as
> input file!!! ($2)" >> $LOGFILE 2>&1
> exit 1
> fi

This is IMO too Windows-like -- just relying on a filename to guess content. 
I'd do it like this:

if [ "$(file -bi $2)" = "application/pdf" ] ...

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Re: screenshot

[Dan H]

On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:53:51 +0100
Jose Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I quickly tried scrot and, out of its man page, I'm not sure which
> formats does it support, can anybody give me a hint?

It seems to only do PNG. Doesn't matter; just pipe it through some netpbm tools 
(which I prefer) or imagemagick.

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[Now really OT]Re: OT: QEMU Package faster

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Mike McCarty wrote:
> Andrew J. Barr wrote:
>>
>> kqemu allows code to be executed directly and natively on the
>> bare-metal processor under certain conditions. This takes QEMU's
>> dynamic translation engine out of the picture and allows for
>> near-native performance of x86-on-x86 (32 or 64 bit) situations.
>>
>> It turns kqemu into less of an emulator and more of a virtualizer, if
>> that makes any sense to you.
>>
> 
> It does, but I haven't been able to get it to compile.

So, why don't you just use debian after all? It seems you've been on
this list long enough to dare to ditch your fedora for the universal OS. :-D

Johannes
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