Re: How to make phone call using modem in Linux

[Jeff D]

On Sat, 11 Aug 2007, Kieu Minh Thang wrote:


Thank you Roby,

I have install dtmfdial, but it seems my Debian doesn't have driver for
modem. But I see that dtmfdial is very simple program, just a binary file,
no config file. How does this know what device used to dial, where can I
config modem device for it ?

Thang Kieu


you might want to check out wvdial, I've used it before with good results.



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Re: How to make phone call using modem in Linux

[Kieu Minh Thang]

Thank you Roby,

I have install dtmfdial, but it seems my Debian doesn't have driver for
modem. But I see that dtmfdial is very simple program, just a binary file,
no config file. How does this know what device used to dial, where can I
config modem device for it ?

Thang Kieu

On 8/10/07, Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kieu Minh Thang wrote:
>
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > I have used Linux on a computer with modem included. How to use this
> > modem to make phone call. Is there a software like Phone Dialer on
> > Windows?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Thang Kieu
>
> dtmfdial accepts a numeric string command line and sends it as dtmf
> tones via the modem.  I use it with kaddressbook to dial out.
>
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Re: Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[steve]

Sam wrote:

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Hi all,
Just did a dist-upgrade. Upon reboot I get the usual login screen, but 
when I log in things start up and then immediately crash back to the 
login screen.


Here is my xorg.conf file that worked before upgrade

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load   "glx"
Load   "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "EN9410e"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
Monitor"EN9410e"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" 
"800x600" "720x400"

 "640x480"
EndSubSection
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection



I had to chop of the last section "extentions" in order to get beryl 
to finally crash back to metacity so I could get a Desktop 
environment. Any Idea whats going wrong with this?


Thanks in advance,
Sam

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not 100% sure but sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg always works for me 
with xserver problems.






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[solved] apt-get error "short read in buffer"

[Jonathan Kaye]

Jonathan Kaye wrote:

> Hi all,
> Suddenly when upgrading my system whether using apt-get, aptitude or wajig
> I get the following error message:
> -
> (Reading database ... dpkg: error
> processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.5_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  short read in buffer_copy (files list for package `x11proto-randr-dev')
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.5_i386.deb
> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
> ---
> I've tried cleaning out the /var/cache/apt/archives folder but that
> doesn't help. I can't remove x11proto-randr-dev. This gives the same error
> message. Googling the problem has proven extremely unhelpful. The only
> thing looking remotely like a solution is apt-get -f [some command] and
> that doesn't work either. Results in the same error message.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
Thanks to all those who knew the answer and would have replied. I carried on
googling and eventually found the answer.
The file lists for each package are kept here: /var/lib/dpkg/info with the
extension .list. For some reason my file x11proto-randr-dev.list was empty.
I did a dpkg-deb --contents for that package and got a list of files which
I then edited to remove permissions size etc. so it looked just like any of
the other .list files in the folder. I replaced the empty file with my
newly created file list and that sorted out the problem. All that was
really required was to know where the installed package file lists are kept
and now I know it's in /var/lib/dpkg/info
Knowledge is power. That's why I love Gnu/Linux.
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Java has stopped working

[Marc Shapiro]

I just realized that java is no longer functioning on my up-to-date Etch 
system.  I had installed Sun Java using java-package and it had been 
working at the time.  I don't run java all that much, so I don't know 
just when it stopped working, but it is not working now.  I have used 
the test on Sun's site and it does not find my installation.  JAVA_HOME 
had been set to /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun.  When Sun's own site could not 
find my installation I decided that it was time to uninstall and 
reinstall fresh.  I ran:


   aptitude remove sun_j2sdk1.5

aptitude suggested installing what appears to be Debian java packages to 
replace the Sun package.  I agreed and the installation seemed to go 
smoothly, but I am still unable to run java packages, from Sun's site, 
or others.  Do I need a plugin of some sort?  When I tried to install 
sun-java5-plugin aptitude wanted to install Iceweasle.  Since I am 
happily running Firefox 2.0 I do not want to install Iceweasle.  How do 
I get around this?


Can someone tell me what I might be missing, or point me in the right 
direction? 


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Stefan Monnier]

>> Haskell defines TABs as being 8 spaces apart and I expect Python to do
>> the same.

> Python should do it because Haskell does it??

Not because Haskell is so influential, but because the same causes tend to
result in the same effects.


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Re: Issues with ethernet in testing/lenny

[percy tiglao]

Thanks everyone. I'm emailing this from Debian/Lenny right now. It took a
while to download everything, but all is well now.


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(solved) Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?

[Serena Cantor]

Thanks! I'll try MAC filter later on.

--- steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Serena Cantor wrote:
> > I knew WEP can do it. but the password is the same, any user can let others 
> > use the router by
> > giving them the password.
> >
> > Can the wireless router owner determine who can use the router?
> >
> > Why the wireless hasn't a address like a ethernet card has, so that the 
> > router can determine
> which
> > address can access router?
> >   
> on my linksys I can block by mac address, check once in a while to see 
> who is connecting then block their mac address if you do not recognize 
> them?
> >
> >   
> > 
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Default browser

[Jeff]

Using Iceweasel as my browser in Etch but when i open a link it opens in 
Epiphany. Have checked Iceweasel in Preferred Applications but still 
opens in Epiphany!  How do Make it open in Iceweasel?

Thanks
Jeff


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apt-get error "short read in buffer"

[Jonathan Kaye]

Hi all,
Suddenly when upgrading my system whether using apt-get, aptitude or wajig I
get the following error message:
-
(Reading database ... dpkg: error
processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.5_i386.deb
(--unpack):
 short read in buffer_copy (files list for package `x11proto-randr-dev')
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libmjpegtools0_1%3a1.8.0-0.5_i386.deb
Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
---
I've tried cleaning out the /var/cache/apt/archives folder but that doesn't
help. I can't remove x11proto-randr-dev. This gives the same error message.
Googling the problem has proven extremely unhelpful. The only thing looking
remotely like a solution is apt-get -f [some command] and that doesn't work
either. Results in the same error message.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
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Problems with beryl after dist-upgrade

[Sam]

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Hi all,
Just did a dist-upgrade. Upon reboot I get the usual login screen, but when
I log in things start up and then immediately crash back to the login
screen.

Here is my xorg.conf file that worked before upgrade

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load   "glx"
Load   "dbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "EN9410e"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
Driver "nvidia"
Option "RenderAccel" "true"
Option "AllowGLXWithComposite" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "nVidia Corporation G71 [GeForce 7300 GS]"
Monitor"EN9410e"
DefaultDepth24
SubSection "Display"
Depth   24
Modes  "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600"
"720x400"
 "640x480"
EndSubSection
Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection



I had to chop of the last section "extentions" in order to get beryl to
finally crash back to metacity so I could get a Desktop environment. Any
Idea whats going wrong with this?

Thanks in advance,
Sam

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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-08-09 23:48:03 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Braces are not a problem: they are kept in a copy-paste, and if for
> > some reason a brace is missing (because you did a mistake), then you'll
> > get a syntax error 
> 
> Unless, of course, you are programming in C with that pesky...
> if
>   foo;
>   bar;
> 
> ...problem.

Of course, you need to be careful on what you copy-paste. Problems
can also happen with:

  foo1;
  foo2;
  foo3;

if you want to move these three lines, but if you forget the 3rd one.

Now, concerning the C language, there's a reason why it is recommended
to always use braces even when they aren't needed...

> > In Python, you may need to re-indent (correctly!) all what you've
> > copy-pasted, and if you forget an indentation, the syntax will still
> > be valid.
> 
> Which is not that hard.  Have you done it?  Doubt it.  I have, many times.
>Say I'm 3 levels deep and paste something 2 levels deep.  Like this:
> 
> for foo in bar:
> if foo > 200:
> print baz
> else:
> print spam

OK, not in every case. But there are cases where it is still valid.
For instance, if you have:

for foo in bar:
print blah1
print blah2

and you want to paste:

if foo > 200:
print baz
else:
print spam

so that you get:

for foo in bar:
print blah1
if foo > 200:
print baz
else:
print spam
print blah2

which is valid, isn't it? You need to re-indent to:

for foo in bar:
print blah1
if foo > 200:
print baz
else:
print spam
print blah2

and it's too easy to get this wrong. And if you want to check
a posteriori that you (or someone else) did it right, standard
tools like "diff -w" (useful if other languages) won't give you
any valuable information.

> Secondly, as I stated earlier, any programmer's editor will be able to
> indent by blocks.

This is useful. However when the blocks are large (e.g. if they don't
fit in the screen), it's easy to make a mistake.

>  I know vim and idle can, pretty sure emacs can as well for those of
> that sect.

The problem with Emacs is that the mark changes too easily. So, this
is not reliable (I always check my changes with "diff" / "diff -w").

> Also, as I said, would you really trust someone who doesn't
> reindent their code so they can read it even if they are cut and
> pasting code with braces?

No, but again, changes made by someone can easily be checked with
"diff -w". Personally, I have all my codes automatically re-indented.

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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[Russell L. Harris]

> On Saturday 11 August 2007 04:39, kaldrenon shared this with us all:
> >--} Hey all. I just installed etch onto my Dell Inspiron B130 laptop using
> >--} the net-install CD that I got at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
> >--}
> >--} Given the description of the installer on the website, I had been
> >--} under the impression that when I ran the install I'd be able to choose
> >--} packages from Debian's (rather massive) list, but that instead of
> >--} having to burn 21 CDs I'd be able to download and install the packages
> >--} of my choice during the install process. However, when I ran the
> >--} install, I didn't get a chance to choose any of these packages - I got
> >--} a simple dialog with options like Print Server, Mail Server, and Web
> >--} Server, but nothing like a list that would have taken 21 CDs to hold.
> >--}
> >--} My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
> >--} meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
> >--} list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
> >--} during the install?

A typical Debian installation is made in three stages.  

FIRST STAGE.  A minimal system is installed from CD.  This may be the
netinstall CD or the first CD of any Debian CD set.  The only
advantage to using the netinstall CD is that the image is smaller and
quicker to download and burn.  You are given the opportunity to select
the source for installation; at that point you may choose CD or
Internet.

The minimal system which is installed in this stage is useful for
nothing other than a means for installation of additional packages.
In this stage, only the essential configuration is accomplished.

SECOND STAGE.  A reasonable working system is installed, either by
downloading files over the Internet or else from CDs.  This system may
be of the service category "print server", "mail server", "web
server", "desktop", etc.  The Debian packages typically chosen for the
respective category are downloaded, installed, and configured.  Also
in this stage, remaining basic configuration of the the system is
completed.

If you wish, you may decline to specify the service category ("print
server", "mail server", "web server", "desktop", etc.) of the system,
and stop at this second stage, in which case you have a minimal but
usable Debian system which is properly configured.  

THIRD STAGE.  The third stage is not really "installation"; rather, it
is "customization".  In this stage, the user uses a package tool (I
recommend Synaptic, which is the only tool I now use) to select,
install, upgrade, and remove packages specific to his needs.  To find
packages suited for your needs, use a search engine such as Google
(www.google.com/linux) or search the Debian archives.

RLH


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Re: Install package without configuring it

[Ron Johnson]

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On 08/10/07 19:02, Juan Asensio Sánchez wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I am writing a script that automatically install some packages. I
> don't want the user to be prompted for any question, because the
> script will configure automatically the files associated with the
> installed packages. I.e, when I install libnss-ldap with "apt-get -y
> install libnss-ldap" i am asked for ldap server, etc. Is there any way
> or any parameter for apt-get for not to be prompted any question
> (prefer without changing any system configuration file)?

Yes.  Install debconf-doc and read the debconf(7) man page,
especially the section on Unattended Package Installation.

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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2007-08-09 23:37:52 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > On 2007-08-09 09:48:54 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> >> The same in Python but with far greater functionality:
> 
> > and a security hole!
> 
> And the one liner stopped this how, exactly?

Because the result of a parameter expansion or filename generation is
not interpreted by the shell (unless explicitly told).

> >> result = os.system("lame -h -b 160 '%s' '%s'" % (file, mp3))
> 
> > Imagine a filename contains: ' `some command`
> 
> Ok, I'll imagine that.
> 
> >>> import os
> >>> foo = "' `ls -l`"
> >>> os.system("echo '%s'" % foo)
> sh: -c: line 0: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
> sh: -c: line 1: syntax error: unexpected end of file
> 512

Yes, because you get:

  echo '' `ls -l`'

which is not valid. Try with:

  foo = "' `ls -l` '"

so that you get:

  echo '' `ls -l` ''

> > In portable POSIX sh, yes. But with superior shells such as zsh, this
> > is trivial. However, for complex transformations, though this can
> > often be written with few characters, this is completely unreadable!
> > (See for instance, the advanced zsh completion functions.)
> 
> Which is why I strayed away from Perl into Python land.

This is a very subjective argument. One *can* write readable Perl
scripts. Also remember TIMTOWTDI.

> And while zsh is fairly ubiquitous in Linux/BSD land it is still
> shell with the problems that come with it. BTW, in case you feel I
> am coming from Bash land with my anti-shell sentiments...
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~} grep grey /etc/passwd
> grey:x:1000:1007:Steve Lamb:/home/grey:/bin/zsh
> 
> ...been on zsh for years. I love its far superior completion and
> command history. Won't code in it,

Well, for some kinds of code (e.g. those dealing with a sequence of
external utilities), it is better to write a shell script, otherwise
this would mean a sequence of "system" or equivalent. For instance,
here's my script to update Mutt:


#!/usr/bin/env zsh

# Usage: update-mutt 

source ~/.zshenv
source ~/.zalias

set -e
set -x

cd ~/software/mutt
rm -rf mutt

if [[ -d mutt-hg ]] then
  if host dev.mutt.org > /dev/null; then
# To create the mutt-hg directory:
#   hg clone http://dev.mutt.org/hg/mutt mutt-hg
pushd mutt-hg
hg pull
hg update "$@"
popd
  else
# Not necessarily a fatal error since the Mutt source could have
# been updated previously (e.g., before a PPP deconnection).
echo "Warning! Mutt source cannot be updated by hg pull." >&2
  fi
  cp -R mutt-hg mutt
else
  if host cvs.mutt.org > /dev/null; then
pushd mutt-cvs
cvs update "$@"
popd
  else
# Not necessarily a fatal error since the Mutt source could have
# been updated previously (e.g., before a PPP deconnection).
echo "Warning! Mutt source cannot be updated by CVS." >&2
  fi
  cp -R mutt-cvs mutt
fi

cd mutt
patch -p1 < ~/wd/src/patches/mutt/mutt.patch
cp ~/wd/fr.po/mutt po/fr.po
prepmutt
make -j2
make install


You can see most commands that have no native equivalent in non-shell
languages: hg, cvs, patch, prepmutt, make (and probably even cp).

> however, not as long as #!/bin/env python is
> around.  And the joy of it is that if a box has zsh chances are high it'll
> have python, too.  ;)

Nope. The first thing I do when I get an account is to install a recent
version of zsh, so that zsh is always installed, but not necessarily
python! :)

Of course, one could also compile python, but with its different
versions which are not compatible, this is annoying, and it takes
too much space on PDAs (my Zaurus has perl and zsh, but not python).

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Re: how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?

[steve]

Serena Cantor wrote:

I knew WEP can do it. but the password is the same, any user can let others use 
the router by
giving them the password.

Can the wireless router owner determine who can use the router?

Why the wireless hasn't a address like a ethernet card has, so that the router 
can determine which
address can access router?
  
on my linksys I can block by mac address, check once in a while to see 
who is connecting then block their mac address if you do not recognize 
them?


  

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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 18:03:29 -0400, Orestes leal wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:58:07 -0400
> Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:47 + (UTC)
>> Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> > I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
>> > screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.
>> > 
>> > In full-screen mode everything is sheared off into wavy lines, as if the
>> > screen geometry I'm using is not the actual one.
>> > 
>> 
>> Which version of SDL you have?
>> Maybe this problem it's coming from rhe windowed system (xorg),
>> 
>> -olr
>> 
>> 
> 
> Actually it's a bug already solved it depends on the version you have.

Is there any chance this bug might be serious enough for the fix to
propagate to etch?  Running anything with this bug can pretty well destroy
an X session.

I think there are a few games that behave this way, too. (not sure which
ones) Perhaps they use the SDL library?

-- hendrik
> 
> -olr


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php5 and UTF BOM header

[supermega]

Hi,

my system is Debian stable Etch with:
- apache22.2.3-4
- libapache2-mod-php55.2.0-8+etch7

PHP interpreter does not parse UTF BOM header bytes in UTF-
encoded .php files and so I get a well known warning "Cannot modify
header information - headers already sent" when trying to use header()
function.
How to make PHP interpreter not to send these BOM bytes to client?

Regards,
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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:58:07 -0400, Orestes leal wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:47 + (UTC)
> Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
>> screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.
>> 
>> In full-screen mode everything is sheared off into wavy lines, as if the
>> screen geometry I'm using is not the actual one.
>> 
>
> Which version of SDL you have?
> Maybe this problem it's coming from rhe windowed system (xorg),
> 

aptitude tells me:

libsdl1.2-dev1.2.11-8
libsdl-image1.2  1.2.5-2+b1...
libsdl1.2debian  1.2.11-8

These seem to be the relevant libraries.  If it's a library problem, I'll
stop looking for a bug in my own code.

> -olr


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

On 8/10/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 13:49:41 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> > Nobody gets these devices appearing in their /dev directory???
>
> I think that everybody who has a USB controller/hub and who uses udev
> has these "USB endpoint" device nodes. Their number increases with every
> new device that you plug into your USB ports.
>
> > usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.2_ep02  usbdev1.2_ep82  usbdev1.4_ep03
>
> [ snip: and more of them ]
>
> > Does anyone know what to do with them???
>
> AFAIK, you normally do not have much contact with them as a normal user.
> You can find out to which device they belong by using udevinfo like
> this:
>
> udevinfo -a -n /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00
>
> The "useful" device node is normally somewhere else, based on the type
> of the device and its function: /dev/bus/usb/ is sort of a generic
> place; an external SATA hard drive will be /dev/sb? (as Marko has
> already pointed out) and have symlinks in /dev/disk/; a USB mouse will
> have its node(s) in /dev/input/; ...
>
> Now, coming back to your problem: Since your example configuration file
> mentions /dev/ttyS0 it would seem that kannel wants to talk to the phone
> like to a serial modem. Therefore you will probably have to use
> something like /dev/ttyUSB0 for a USB-connected mobile. If you cannot
> find such a device node after plugging in the phone then it may be
> necessary to do "modprobe usb_serial" as root. If that does not help
> then you might have to load an additional kernel module specific to your
> type of cell phone. (Please note that I have never used kannel,
> therefore I can only offer speculation based on what I know about USB
> devices and udev in general.)
>
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Thanks for the great reply. I think you put me closer ---but I am not really
there yet.  To recap:
1. the usbdev1.1_ep00 are basically useless.
2. I have to load something else in order to get a usefull /dev/tty*  to
refer to.

Do you know what that driver or module that I need to load for Cingular 8125
?
I have loaded usbserial...but nothing happened...or at least i do not know
if anything happened..nothing was referenced that was usefull.  Do you know
where I can check?

Does anyone know a Cellphone from ATT that can work with debian...so I can
use it with a sms text messeging program ???

I guess the phone would have to have a usb cable...Does anyone know of one
pleaseplease???


thanks
mjh

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[BartlebyScrivener]

On Aug 7, 1:50 pm, "Manon Metten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> - Which one is easiest to learn?
> - Which one is more powerful?
> - Can I execute /bin commands from within a python script

Sorry if someone else already pointed to the Python Tutorial, but the
very beginning tries to address when you might want to use Python
instead of a shell script. Written by Guido his own self. I'm fairly
new to both Python and Linux and after about a year or so of both I
would say that Python is easier to learn and more powerful, but it's
silly not to learn the ins and outs of commands like FIND and GREP
which, when used properly, often start becoming scripts.

I would say learn both, and spend your time deciding WHEN to use
which, not choosing between them.

from http://docs.python.org/tut/node3.html

If you do much work on computers, eventually you find that there's
some task you'd like to automate. For example, you may wish to perform
a search-and-replace over a large number of text files, or rename and
rearrange a bunch of photo files in a complicated way. Perhaps you'd
like to write a small custom database, or a specialized GUI
application, or a simple game.

If you're a professional software developer, you may have to work with
several C/C++/Java libraries but find the usual write/compile/test/re-
compile cycle is too slow. Perhaps you're writing a test suite for
such a library and find writing the testing code a tedious task. Or
maybe you've written a program that could use an extension language,
and you don't want to design and implement a whole new language for
your application.

Python is just the language for you.

You could write a Unix shell script or Windows batch files for some of
these tasks, but shell scripts are best at moving around files and
changing text data, not well-suited for GUI applications or games. You
could write a C/C++/Java program, but it can take a lot of development
time to get even a first-draft program. Python is simpler to use,
available on Windows, MacOS X, and Unix operating systems, and will
help you get the job done more quickly.

rd


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how to (dis)allow some users from using wireless router?

[Serena Cantor]

I knew WEP can do it. but the password is the same, any user can let others use 
the router by
giving them the password.

Can the wireless router owner determine who can use the router?

Why the wireless hasn't a address like a ethernet card has, so that the router 
can determine which
address can access router?


  

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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Brendan]

On Thursday 09 August 2007, Nelson Castillo wrote:
> On 8/9/07, David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > > Actually, it isn't.  At no time have I ever had any problems
> > > with Python
> > > code which would not also be an issue in other code as well.  The only
> > > difference being you have to be careful about indention in one
> > > case, braces in
> > > the other.
> >
> > Still, after dealing with all the nightmares of things like 'make'
> > that care about tabs vs. spaces, etc., I'm inclined to shy away from
> > languages where whitespace is critically important.  Whitespace is so
> > fragile.
>
> I make trailing spaces and TABS visible in vim.
> I know it's hard to keep conventions when you work with a team.
>
> http://wiki.freaks-unidos.net/weblogs/arhuaco/visible-spaces-in-vim

Great tip.


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Brendan]

On Thursday 09 August 2007, Manon Metten wrote:
> Hi Florian,
>
> On 8/8/07, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html
>
> > http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/Perl/start.html
> > http://hetland.org/writing/instant-python.html
>
> Thanks for the links. They are very useful. Although I did already
> some reading of Bash-Beginners-Guide I still find it hard to
> understand. But I think I gradually will make some progress.
>
> Greetings, Manon.

The point is: pick one and learn it. Doesn't matter which. When you have 
gained some knowledge, you won't have to ask such pointless questions.


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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Steve Kemp]

On Fri Aug 10, 2007 at 18:03:29 -0400, Orestes leal wrote:

> > Which version of SDL you have?
> > Maybe this problem it's coming from rhe windowed system (xorg),
> 
> Actually it's a bug already solved it depends on the version you have.

  People:  Please trim the text of the messages you're replying to.

  We didn't need to see the source to the program the first time,
 and we certainly didn't need to see it quoted in its entirety
 twice more!

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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[Charlie]

On Saturday 11 August 2007 04:39, kaldrenon shared this with us all:
>--} Hey all. I just installed etch onto my Dell Inspiron B130 laptop using
>--} the net-install CD that I got at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/
>--}
>--} Given the description of the installer on the website, I had been
>--} under the impression that when I ran the install I'd be able to choose
>--} packages from Debian's (rather massive) list, but that instead of
>--} having to burn 21 CDs I'd be able to download and install the packages
>--} of my choice during the install process. However, when I ran the
>--} install, I didn't get a chance to choose any of these packages - I got
>--} a simple dialog with options like Print Server, Mail Server, and Web
>--} Server, but nothing like a list that would have taken 21 CDs to hold.
>--}
>--} My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
>--} meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
>--} list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
>--} during the install?
>--}
>--} Recommendations and tips are appreciated - I'm fairly new to the *nix
>--} world, so feel free to assume I know nothing, beyond what 'ls' does.
>--}
>--} Thanks in advance,
>--} Andrew

When you run the net install CD you go through all the things they ask, and 
you can, if you desire  when the installer comes to that 
place, or you can just jump to installing grub or lilo and it will do that, 
and then go to finish the installation. I have never used the Install 
Software option, but I have looked at it once in Woody and I think it selects 
a software group rather than individual packages? 

I assume that you have run through all the detect:- network hardware, disks 
and such.

After reboot, which is where  takes you after it has ejected your net 
install CD. You can place it back into the CD/DVD drive because it will be 
needed again. Log into your shell as root, because that is the user that can 
install packages.

From this point on, you can select the individual packages you want. Some of 
these are mega packages as well, and they will declare what they are going to 
install if you use:- apt-get install 

I usually install  first 

From then on, you can  | less. What you want 
might be a  or just  or just  or anything you want 
to try. By piping this command through  you can scroll up and down 
through the list that the search command brings up, and read about and find 
what you want.

The dependencies will be installed, and you will get a list of suggested 
packages at the same time. Check if they will help you with or enhance the 
package you've installed, before you install them as well.

Hope that helps.
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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 13:49:41 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> Nobody gets these devices appearing in their /dev directory???

I think that everybody who has a USB controller/hub and who uses udev
has these "USB endpoint" device nodes. Their number increases with every
new device that you plug into your USB ports.

> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.2_ep02  usbdev1.2_ep82  usbdev1.4_ep03

[ snip: and more of them ]

> Does anyone know what to do with them???

AFAIK, you normally do not have much contact with them as a normal user.
You can find out to which device they belong by using udevinfo like
this:

udevinfo -a -n /dev/usbdev1.1_ep00

The "useful" device node is normally somewhere else, based on the type
of the device and its function: /dev/bus/usb/ is sort of a generic
place; an external SATA hard drive will be /dev/sb? (as Marko has
already pointed out) and have symlinks in /dev/disk/; a USB mouse will
have its node(s) in /dev/input/; ...

Now, coming back to your problem: Since your example configuration file
mentions /dev/ttyS0 it would seem that kannel wants to talk to the phone
like to a serial modem. Therefore you will probably have to use
something like /dev/ttyUSB0 for a USB-connected mobile. If you cannot
find such a device node after plugging in the phone then it may be
necessary to do "modprobe usb_serial" as root. If that does not help
then you might have to load an additional kernel module specific to your
type of cell phone. (Please note that I have never used kannel,
therefore I can only offer speculation based on what I know about USB
devices and udev in general.)

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Install package without configuring it

[Juan Asensio Sánchez]

Hi

I am writing a script that automatically install some packages. I
don't want the user to be prompted for any question, because the
script will configure automatically the files associated with the
installed packages. I.e, when I install libnss-ldap with "apt-get -y
install libnss-ldap" i am asked for ldap server, etc. Is there any way
or any parameter for apt-get for not to be prompted any question
(prefer without changing any system configuration file)?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: DNS problem on local network

[Adam Hardy]

Jeff D on 10/08/07 04:07, wrote:

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:

Jeff D on 09/08/07 00:55, wrote:

On Thu, 9 Aug 2007, Adam Hardy wrote:
How exactly would I set the domain name on the machine - the name I 
thought I'd chosen when setting up the system from CD?


At the moment on this machine when I run 'hostname --domain' it 
returns nothing.


to set the domain name, add it into /etc/hosts, for example:
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   mybox.mynet.netmybox

in /etc/hostname :
mybox

at start up /etc/init.d/hostname.sh runs, parses these and comes up 
the domain name.


to turn off dhcp provided /etc/host info, edit 
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf, there is a line that starts with request. 
Remove domain-name-servers from that list and dhcp wont supply it. If 
you read down further, you can supply your own through the option 
variables.


for more dhcpclient goodness  man dhclient.conf


Yes I tried to work out what was going on by reading the man pages, 
but I didn't find it so illuminating. My problem is that the DHCP and 
DNS server running dnsmasq is actually the gateway server and has a 
second NIC connected to a modem, from which it gets its ip via DHCP, 
hence the reason why this box is running dnsmasqfor one NIC and 
dhclient3 for the other.


It is the resolv.conf on this machine that is being rewritten 
constantly by something.


In that context, do those instructions for setting the domain name on 
the machine still hold? It slightly throws me that you quote the ip 
address 127.0.1.1


You can put your IP in /etc/hosts as:
192.168.1.150   mybox.mynet.net mybox

i just had 127.0.0.1 in mine, sorry for the confusion on that.

This machine also gets its network info through dhcp, which also over 
writes /etc/resolv.conf. If you want to keep certian info in there , 
like a search domain and specify a namserver, add to 
/etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf :

supersede domain-name "mynet.net mynet.local";
prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;

then, /etc/init.d/networking restart

and you should see in /etc/resolv.conf:
search mynet.net mynet.local
nameserver 127.0.0.1
nameserver 192.168.1.10

you will still need to have your ISPs dns server listed in 
/etc/resolv.conf , as dnsmasq uses that as its name server.


then, you can add in hosts into /etc/hosts , restart dnsmasq and it will 
reread /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/hosts


I hope that clears up things a little.


Yes it does clear things up and it's a great help, thanks.

Putting those changes into dhclient.conf set up the dhclient3 properly so that 
my resolv.conf now looks just like it should as a gateway machine. Plus I can 
now reach my server by name from my workstations, without having its hostname in 
the /etc/hosts file.


It was strange that it wasn't mentioned anywhere in the dhcp or dhclient man 
pages that resolv.conf is managed in this way.


I now have to figure out what is happening on the dhclient front on my 
workstations, or at least my linux workstation since that has no concept of its 
domain name still. There seems to be a chance of getting it sorted using dynamic 
DNS with dhclient, but the man page claims it is unlikely to work!


Thanks

Adam


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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Orestes leal]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:58:07 -0400
Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:47 + (UTC)
> Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
> > screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.
> > 
> > In full-screen mode everything is sheared off into wavy lines, as if the
> > screen geometry I'm using is not the actual one.
> > 
> > Now I understand that it may be unable to deliver the desired resolution,
> > but if so SDL_SetVideoMode should be returning error indication,
> > right?
> > 
> > Although I don't get an error return, i called SDL_GetError anyway and got
> > the following message:
> > 
> >   Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol:
> > DPMSDisable
> >  
> > I don't know if that means anything important, because it happens
> > both with SDL_FULLSCREEN and with SDL_RESIZABLE.
> > 
> > Here's the code.  The #if is how I switch between full-screen and
> > resizable.  Am I doing something obviously wrong?
> > 
> > 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > #include 
> > 
> > Uint16 CreateHicolorPixel(
> >   SDL_PixelFormat * fmt,
> >   Uint8 red,
> >   Uint8 green,
> >   Uint8 blue)
> > {
> >   Uint16 value;
> >   value = ((red >> fmt->Rloss) << fmt->Rshift) +
> > ((green >> fmt->Gloss) << fmt->Gshift) +
> > ((blue >> fmt->Bloss) << fmt->Bshift);
> >   return value;
> > }
> > 
> > int main()
> > {
> >   SDL_Surface *screen;
> >   Uint16 *raw_pixels;
> >   int x, y, t;
> > 
> >   printf("At start GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> >   if(SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) != 0)
> > {
> >   printf("unable to initialize SDL: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> >   return 1;
> > }
> >   atexit(SDL_Quit);
> > 
> >   printf("After SDL_INIT GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> > #if 1
> >   screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_FULLSCREEN);
> > #else
> >   screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_RESIZABLE);
> > #endif
> > 
> >   printf("after SetVideoMods GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> >   if(screen == NULL)
> > {
> >   printf("unable to set video mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> >   return 1;
> > }
> > 
> >   for(t = 0; t < 20; ++t)
> > {
> >   SDL_LockSurface(screen);
> >   raw_pixels = (Uint16 *) screen->pixels;
> >   for(x = 0; x < screen->w; x++)
> > {
> >   for(y = 0; y < screen->h; y++)
> > {
> >   Uint16 pixel_color;
> >   int offset;
> >   pixel_color = CreateHicolorPixel(screen->format,
> >(x * t) >> 4,
> >(x ^ y) + t,
> >(y * t) >> 4
> > 
> >);
> >   offset = (screen->pitch / 2 * y + x);
> >   raw_pixels[offset] = pixel_color;
> > }
> > }
> >   SDL_UnlockSurface(screen);
> >   SDL_UpdateRect(screen, 0, 0, 0, 0);
> >   SDL_Delay(8);
> > }
> > 
> >   SDL_Delay(3000);
> >   printf("success!\n");
> >   return 0;
> > }
> > 
> > 
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> Which version of SDL you have?
> Maybe this problem it's coming from rhe windowed system (xorg),
> 
> -olr
> 
> 

Actually it's a bug already solved it depends on the version you have.

-olr


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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Orestes leal]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:47 + (UTC)
Hendrik Boom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
> screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.
> 
> In full-screen mode everything is sheared off into wavy lines, as if the
> screen geometry I'm using is not the actual one.
> 
> Now I understand that it may be unable to deliver the desired resolution,
> but if so SDL_SetVideoMode should be returning error indication,
> right?
> 
> Although I don't get an error return, i called SDL_GetError anyway and got
> the following message:
> 
>   Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol:
> DPMSDisable
>  
> I don't know if that means anything important, because it happens
> both with SDL_FULLSCREEN and with SDL_RESIZABLE.
> 
> Here's the code.  The #if is how I switch between full-screen and
> resizable.  Am I doing something obviously wrong?
> 
> 
> #include 
> #include 
> #include 
> 
> Uint16 CreateHicolorPixel(
> SDL_PixelFormat * fmt,
> Uint8 red,
> Uint8 green,
> Uint8 blue)
> {
>   Uint16 value;
>   value = ((red >> fmt->Rloss) << fmt->Rshift) +
> ((green >> fmt->Gloss) << fmt->Gshift) +
> ((blue >> fmt->Bloss) << fmt->Bshift);
>   return value;
> }
> 
> int main()
> {
>   SDL_Surface *screen;
>   Uint16 *raw_pixels;
>   int x, y, t;
> 
>   printf("At start GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
>   if(SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) != 0)
> {
>   printf("unable to initialize SDL: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
>   return 1;
> }
>   atexit(SDL_Quit);
> 
>   printf("After SDL_INIT GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
> #if 1
>   screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_FULLSCREEN);
> #else
>   screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_RESIZABLE);
> #endif
> 
>   printf("after SetVideoMods GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
>   if(screen == NULL)
> {
>   printf("unable to set video mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
>   return 1;
> }
> 
>   for(t = 0; t < 20; ++t)
> {
>   SDL_LockSurface(screen);
>   raw_pixels = (Uint16 *) screen->pixels;
>   for(x = 0; x < screen->w; x++)
>   {
> for(y = 0; y < screen->h; y++)
>   {
> Uint16 pixel_color;
> int offset;
> pixel_color = CreateHicolorPixel(screen->format,
>  (x * t) >> 4,
>  (x ^ y) + t,
>  (y * t) >> 4
> 
>  );
> offset = (screen->pitch / 2 * y + x);
> raw_pixels[offset] = pixel_color;
>   }
>   }
>   SDL_UnlockSurface(screen);
>   SDL_UpdateRect(screen, 0, 0, 0, 0);
>   SDL_Delay(8);
> }
> 
>   SDL_Delay(3000);
>   printf("success!\n");
>   return 0;
> }
> 
> 
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Which version of SDL you have?
Maybe this problem it's coming from rhe windowed system (xorg),

-olr


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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[kaldrenon]

On Aug 10, 3:40 pm, "Mumia W.."  wrote:

> I suggest you select the "Desktop" option if there is one*. That should
> give you a graphical user interface and a few utilities. From there, you
> can use either "aptitude" or "synaptic" to install more Debian software
> packages. I suggest you use aptitude.
>
> Refer to these:
>
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/index.en.html
>
> http://wiki.debian.org/
>
> I hope this helps.

Thanks very much for your help! I'm using aptitude now, it's exactly
what I had hoped to see during the install.

I guess the wording of http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ made it less
than clear to me how much I would be able to access during the
install, but it's clear now.

Thanks again.
-Andrew


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Re: Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Hendrik Boom]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:39:47 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
> screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.

I forgot to mention: I'm running this on a 32-bit AMD processor, an ATI
all-in-wonder graphics card, and an up-to-date Debian etch.

-- hendrik


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Re: bad package

[Ashok Mudholkar]

Well, I ran into a similar enough problem.  I downloaded

   http://www.pps.jussieu.fr/~beffara/debian/frcursive_1.0-1_all.deb

and tried to install it using dpkg, only to find that something was 
awry.  The error was only as specific as 'dpkg returned error code 1' or 
so.  Naturally, I tried dpkg -r, but to no avail.  Now dpkg, apt, 
aptitude, and dselect were all bailing because of this failed 
installation.  Maybe it was unsuitable for AM64 architecture--a TeX 
file?--who knows?


Anyhow, after a week of digging around, somehow I noticed someone 
suggesting manually editing /var/lib/dpkg/status to remove entries 
concerning the offending package.  Sensibly, that person also suggests 
backing up /var/lib/dpkg/status before doing so.  Incredibly, I hadn't 
noticed this file in the dpkg man page despite repeated readings looking 
for just such a file.


From there, apt-get update and upgrade should work fine, or so it seems 
so far.  Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than I can amend this or 
correct me.


So, to summarize:

   * bakcup /var/lib/dpkg/status
   * manually edit /var/lib/dpkg/status to remove mention of the
 offending package.
   * apt-get update and you're sailing free, with the one caveat that
 files which may have been unpacked will remain on your system,
 probably invisible to deborphan and the like.


Ashok Mudholkar


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Beginner has trouble with SDL in foll-screen mode.

[Hendrik Boom]

I have a small program that makes a time-varying pattern on the
screen. It works fine with SDL_RESIZABLE, but not with SDL_FULLSCREEN.

In full-screen mode everything is sheared off into wavy lines, as if the
screen geometry I'm using is not the actual one.

Now I understand that it may be unable to deliver the desired resolution,
but if so SDL_SetVideoMode should be returning error indication,
right?

Although I don't get an error return, i called SDL_GetError anyway and got
the following message:

  Failed loading DPMSDisable: /usr/lib/libX11.so.6: undefined symbol:
DPMSDisable
 
I don't know if that means anything important, because it happens
both with SDL_FULLSCREEN and with SDL_RESIZABLE.

Here's the code.  The #if is how I switch between full-screen and
resizable.  Am I doing something obviously wrong?


#include 
#include 
#include 

Uint16 CreateHicolorPixel(
  SDL_PixelFormat * fmt,
  Uint8 red,
  Uint8 green,
  Uint8 blue)
{
  Uint16 value;
  value = ((red >> fmt->Rloss) << fmt->Rshift) +
((green >> fmt->Gloss) << fmt->Gshift) +
((blue >> fmt->Bloss) << fmt->Bshift);
  return value;
}

int main()
{
  SDL_Surface *screen;
  Uint16 *raw_pixels;
  int x, y, t;

  printf("At start GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
  if(SDL_Init(SDL_INIT_VIDEO) != 0)
{
  printf("unable to initialize SDL: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
  return 1;
}
  atexit(SDL_Quit);

  printf("After SDL_INIT GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
#if 1
  screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_FULLSCREEN);
#else
  screen = SDL_SetVideoMode(640, 480, 16, SDL_RESIZABLE);
#endif

  printf("after SetVideoMods GetError says: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
  if(screen == NULL)
{
  printf("unable to set video mode: %s\n", SDL_GetError());
  return 1;
}

  for(t = 0; t < 20; ++t)
{
  SDL_LockSurface(screen);
  raw_pixels = (Uint16 *) screen->pixels;
  for(x = 0; x < screen->w; x++)
{
  for(y = 0; y < screen->h; y++)
{
  Uint16 pixel_color;
  int offset;
  pixel_color = CreateHicolorPixel(screen->format,
   (x * t) >> 4,
   (x ^ y) + t,
   (y * t) >> 4

   );
  offset = (screen->pitch / 2 * y + x);
  raw_pixels[offset] = pixel_color;
}
}
  SDL_UnlockSurface(screen);
  SDL_UpdateRect(screen, 0, 0, 0, 0);
  SDL_Delay(8);
}

  SDL_Delay(3000);
  printf("success!\n");
  return 0;
}


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Jude DaShiell]

If possible download the modconf package and run it.  It'll update 
/etc/moules for you after you select the devices your computer has that 
debian supports and on boot up will run those modules for you starting up 
those devices.  The /etc/modules file format is dirt simple, only one 
module name per line.





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Re: How to add dir to path

[Wayne Topa]

Mumia W..([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On 08/07/2007 10:32 AM, Manon Metten wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I want to add the dir ~/scripts to my path, what command do I use for that?
> >
> >M> echo $PATH
> >/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
> >
> >But how do I add ~/scripts to that path?
> >
> >Thanks, Manon.
> >
> 
> I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc. 
> Set it like so:
> 
> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts
> 
> I've tried some of the other ways discussed in the thread, and they 
> didn't work. I hope this helps.

For an example of how to set the path statement, here is the default
in /etc/profile;
_
# /etc/profile: system-wide .profile file for the Bourne shell (sh(1))
# and Bourne compatible shells (bash(1), ksh(1), ash(1), ...).

if [ "`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then
  
PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11"
else
  PATH="/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games"
fi
--
NOTE the quotes in the path statement.

As regards KDE sessions.  If, when the path is set up or changed in
.bash_profile, it is not seen correctly by a new KDE session it means
that KDE doesn't read .bash_profile for new sessions.  Maybe that is
by design or it's a KDE bug.  As I do not use KDE, I can't
troubleshoot it or report it.  

So placement of of a PATH statement in .bashrc 'may' be required by
KDE or GNOME but, IMHO, does not mean it's correct.  Maybe KDE users
should try to see if putting a "Hello from /etc/profile" in
/etc/profile gets read by new KDE sessions.  If not, then I believe
its a bug in KDE.  

Wayne

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Re: Conversion of .flv to .mpg format?

[David Brodbeck]

On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:58 PM, Carl Fink wrote:


On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 02:16:10PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:

On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:

Use mencoder.  A basic example:
mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts
vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg


This shouldn't work.  "oac copy" means to copy the video  
unchanged, but then
you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only  
works if

you select "oac lavc".


-oac is output audio codec.  I tested it on a youtube video and it  
works.


You are correct.  I am an idiot.  I will now go smack myself with a  
2x4.


Don't be too hard on yourself.  mencoder's command line syntax is  
almost as confusing as sox's. ;)


I wish I could remember which package had, in the BUGS section of its  
manpage, "This program has even more command line switches than GNU ls."






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Re: How to add dir to path

[David Brodbeck]

On Aug 10, 2007, at 1:50 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:

I have never seen this way  of defining a path [ PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}" ]

I learned PATH="a path:a new path"  everything inclosed in quotes. I
think (?) i tried your way yesterday and got strange results but I
deleted that test file so 


I've always just done:

export PATH=$PATH:/stuff/I/want/to/add

This keeps the system path in place.

I've never had to use quotes, but I guess if you had pathnames with  
characters in them that had to be escaped, like spaces, it might be a  
good idea.



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Re: How to add dir to path

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:43:39PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:
 
> So, from that, I conclude that it's default behavior that whenever I open
> a new session, only .bashrc is read.

Just look at your .bash_profile:

# ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[tbroderick]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 06:39:38PM -, kaldrenon wrote:

> My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
> meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
> list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
> during the install?
> 
> Recommendations and tips are appreciated - I'm fairly new to the *nix
> world, so feel free to assume I know nothing, beyond what 'ls' does.
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Andrew


You could select nothing and then after a reboot edit your source.list and 
apt-get everything you want. That's what I do accpet with the mini.iso.

Tim



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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Orestes leal]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 20:30:58 GMT
"s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >  Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C, my advances are very
> >  good, my question it's that, The topic sounds funny but it's mostly
> >  serious,
> > 
> >  QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
> >  writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the
> >  question it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C programmer
> >  to the point to hack in some kernel of some system or writing good
> >  apps without some trouble?
> 
> Have you looked at the kernel source?

yeah, to the ata drivers and many more, 

> Can you make heads or tails of
> it?

In the 'hard' areas not yet, but i'm making progress learning from various
packages like coreutils and compiz.

>  How long do *you* think it would take, based on your progression
> so far? 

I think 4 to 6 years to be optimistic, i'm wrong?


> Some of that stuff (memory management) makes Linus' eyes cross.
> 
> As for writing apps, consider looking into wxwindows, FLTK, and Simple
> DirectMedia Layer (SDL), libraries which may help.  SDL is at
> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Creating_a_Window I think.  They can all
> be found in Debian repositories and google.  I *think* I like SDL the
> most from what I've seen, but your goals may/will differ.

yeah, I use SDL since I learned C so I think that it's a very simple API,
but I'm far away fro be a good c programmer since that I beend around
with C for about 2 an a falf week or so.


Thanks for your replies,
Best regards,
Orestes.


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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Orestes leal]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:37:36 -0500
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> 
> On 08/10/07 13:27, Orestes leal wrote:
> > Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C, my advances are very
> > good, my question it's that, The topic sounds funny but it's
> > mostly serious,
> > 
> > 
> > QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
> >  writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day,
> > the question it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C
> > programmer to the point to hack in some kernel of some system or
> > writing good apps without some trouble?
> 
> There are many ranks of soldier, from Private to Sergeant Major of
> the Army.  (That's the US Army.  Others will have something similar.)
> 
> Do you know well any other programming languages?  Are you a
> "soldier" in any of them?

yeah, in JavaScript.

> 
> If so, then you'll know when you are a "C soldier".
> 
> If not, i.e. you are a programming newbie, then It All Depends.

I'am a C newbie.
> 
> Learning the language is not that hard.  But C is, but design, just
> as flexible as Assembly.  There are a jillion different tricks,
> tactics and techniques for doing just about everything, and there
> are a bunch which are Too Clever and would get you fired if I were
> your boss.
> 
> - --
> Ron Johnson, Jr.
> Jefferson LA  USA
> 
> Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
> Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Wayne Topa]

Manon Metten([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> On 8/10/07, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Are you doing all of this in KDE?  If so I have no clue.  I would
> > suggest you go to a console VT and enter the path statements I showed.
> > Then, if it doesn't work there, there is a real problem ...
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, I was doing this in KDE. I start bash from an icon on my panel
> (it's run as /bin/bash --login). I tried what you suggested, switched to
> tty1 and logged in as manon. It said "Hello World..." to me, coming
> from the 'echo' line I previously added to .bash_profile. Same result
> in tty2.
> 
> Well, there's definitely something wrong here, but it isn't really much of a
> problem no more, coz I put my scripts in ~/bin now, as Andrei suggested.
> And the problem seems to be related to starting a new bash session, not
> to a tty or opening a new bash window.
> However, obviously something is really messed up but I don't know
> where to look for a solution.
> 
> The strange thing also is, when I put PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}" in .bashrc

I have never seen this way  of defining a path [ PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}" ] 

I learned PATH="a path:a new path"  everything inclosed in quotes. I 
think (?) i tried your way yesterday and got strange results but I
deleted that test file so 

I'm not saying (anymore) your way is wrong, just that I have never seen
it done that way before.  I know the "" "" works and never looked into
it further.

<>

> 
> Confusing, huh?
Very!

Wayne

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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[s. keeling]

Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C, my advances are very
>  good, my question it's that, The topic sounds funny but it's mostly
>  serious,
> 
>  QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
>  writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the
>  question it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C programmer
>  to the point to hack in some kernel of some system or writing good
>  apps without some trouble?

Have you looked at the kernel source?  Can you make heads or tails of
it?  How long do *you* think it would take, based on your progression
so far?  Some of that stuff (memory management) makes Linus' eyes cross.

As for writing apps, consider looking into wxwindows, FLTK, and Simple
DirectMedia Layer (SDL), libraries which may help.  SDL is at
http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Creating_a_Window I think.  They can all
be found in Debian repositories and google.  I *think* I like SDL the
most from what I've seen, but your goals may/will differ.


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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Ron Johnson]

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On 08/10/07 13:27, Orestes leal wrote:
> Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C, my advances are very
> good, my question it's that, The topic sounds funny but it's
> mostly serious,
> 
> 
> QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
>  writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day,
> the question it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C
> programmer to the point to hack in some kernel of some system or
> writing good apps without some trouble?

There are many ranks of soldier, from Private to Sergeant Major of
the Army.  (That's the US Army.  Others will have something similar.)

Do you know well any other programming languages?  Are you a
"soldier" in any of them?

If so, then you'll know when you are a "C soldier".

If not, i.e. you are a programming newbie, then It All Depends.

Learning the language is not that hard.  But C is, but design, just
as flexible as Assembly.  There are a jillion different tricks,
tactics and techniques for doing just about everything, and there
are a bunch which are Too Clever and would get you fired if I were
your boss.

- --
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Jefferson LA  USA

Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day.
Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good!

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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Octavio Alvarez]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:27:18 -0700, Orestes leal  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the  
question
it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C  programmer to the point  
to hack in some

kernel of some system or writing good apps without some trouble?


It depends. If you study the kernel and at some point you are able to
hack it, you would still not be able to hack into a GTK program, as
you need to learn the GTK library. You will know *C* by then, but not
the libraries.

The other way around might also be true: besides learning the code
and the libraries, you must learn the coding style, techniques and
abstraction layers in the project.

Not impossible, but definitely not trivial.

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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Jeff D]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Michael Habashy wrote:




Thanks for the heads up.
Do you have any other words of wisdom regarding connecting a cellphonee?   I
can not make heads or tales of this tty mess.   I wish to connect my
cellphone so i can use it with Kannel (to send out sms text messeges)..it
has been driving me nutsdo you know a better way to do this with debian
???
thanks
mjh



I've never set up a sms gateway before, so I'm afraid I can't help you 
there.  But I have used wvdial to do dialup with phones, that might help 
you out a bit in finding which /dev/tty device your phone is on.



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Re: newbie here - system administration question

[s. keeling]

Per olof Ljungmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  s. keeling wrote:
> > Per olof Ljungmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >>  Where except on the local machine can I find Debian man pages?
> >>  http://manpages.debian.net/
> >>  is not very informative I'm afraid...
> >[snip]
>  And, if the online manpages does not work, why link to them?

Well, do remember that Debian's an (almost?) all volunteer effort, and
things do break.

>  Just my $0.02.

Heard about reportbug yet?  Check it out and consider reporting the
breakage on the package 'www.debian.org'.  You probably want to check
the BTS at bugs.debian.org first to see if it's already been
reported.  Perhaps there's a good reason why it's broken.


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Re: Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Nate Duehr]

Orestes leal wrote:


QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the question
it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C  programmer to the point to hack 
in some
kernel of some system or writing good apps without some trouble?


A completely impossible question to answer.  Too many variables.

Download some complex C code (like the kernel source) and see if you 
understand it.


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Re: Conversion of .flv to .mpg format?

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 02:16:10PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
> On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
> > > Use mencoder.  A basic example:
> > > mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts
> > > vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg
> >
> > This shouldn't work.  "oac copy" means to copy the video unchanged, but then
> > you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only works if
> > you select "oac lavc".
> 
> -oac is output audio codec.  I tested it on a youtube video and it works.

You are correct.  I am an idiot.  I will now go smack myself with a 2x4.
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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[kaldrenon]

On Aug 10, 3:10 pm, Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was there no option like "Individual package selection" (I don't recall
> the exact wording)?
>
> Regards,
> Andrei

I didn't see one, no. That is what I had expected, but I did not see
it. There's a chance I just missed/overlooked it, though. I can be
dumb like that.


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[s. keeling]

ss11223 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Aug 10, 10:30 am, "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >  Just remember to tell you editor to "inserts spaces as tab" and set
> > >  the tab width to something reasonable like 4.
> >
> > E, yuck!  It's code like that which makes me happy for emacs:
> >
> >C-x h# mark entire buffer
> >M-x untabify # replace tab chars with spaces
> 
>  Check out the "expand" command. It's easier to script when you need to
>  do some directories full of files.

Absolutely.  I created a jaw-dropping moment for a manager and about
fifteen developers with that one once.  They thought they were going
to have to spend the next two weeks cleaning up SQL code that had been
maintained for years by various people using various editors, some of
which used tabs and others not.

I fixed it for them with an expand one liner.  Hear me roar, or yodel
like Tarzan.  :-)


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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Andrei,

It works as it should on my system:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep Hello .bash*
> .bash_profile:echo "Hello from bash_profile"
> .bashrc:echo "Hello from bashrc"
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash
> Hello from bashrc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exit
> exit
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash --login
> Hello from bashrc
> Hello from bash_profile
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$



It works on my system as well, for every new bash WINDOW I open,
but not for every new bash SESSION I start:

M> grep "Hi" .bash*
.bash_profile:echo "Hi from .bash_profile..."
.bashrc:echo "Hi from .bashrc..."
M>

Every newly opened bash window greets me with:
Hi from .bashrc...
Hi from .bash_profile...

Every tty greets me with:
Hi from .bashrc...
Hi from .bash_profile...

When I enter bash --login I also get:
Hi from .bashrc...
Hi from .bash_profile...
But then again, that's the same as opening a new bash window.

But whenever I open a new session in an already opened bash window,
I only get:
Hi from .bashrc...

So, from that, I conclude that it's default behavior that whenever I open
a new session, only .bashrc is read.

Anyway, thanks for the tip and for your response.

Manon.

Re: Strange video troubles (DPMS & nv driver)

[cothrige]

Ralph Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 08/09/2007 09:12 PM, cothrige wrote:
>
>> I have gotten to thinking.  Does nv take any flags like nvidia does?
>> Could there be a setting I could manipulate when loading it which could
>> help with LCD monitors, or the like?  I must admit complete ignorance on
>> this issue, as when I used nv consistently I had a very simple setup
>> with a CRT as well.  I never needed to do anything but load the driver
>> for it to work.
>
> Maybe dpkg-reconfigure xorg will help?  iirc, there was an LCD question
> asked.

Unfortunately, this did not change anything in my setup.  At least not
in regards to using 'nv.'

> I don't know anything about ServerFlags.
>
> DPMS is on:  ~$ grep DPMS /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Option  "DPMS"
>
> My dpms settings are handled by xscreensaver ($ xscreensaver-demo).

Cool.  I am trying this right now to see if it helps.  Maybe there is
some glitch in how DPMS is operating in my system and so perhaps
xscreensaver will have a more direct method which will work better.

> Also, I sometimes call this from a script in ~/bin when not wanting to
> wait for xscreensaver to kick in:
> xset -display :0.0 dpms force  suspend

I did the same thing with my setup, but lately even that has not worked
right.  For instance, I could open a terminal and type 'xset dpms force
off' and the monitor would sleep.  However, I have always mapped Super-x
in Fluxbox to that command and would hit that to sleep the monitor, but
lately it will only make the display blink.  I really cannot quite
figure out what is going on in this regard.  The good news is that after
switching to xscreensaver at least that did seem to work again, if only
so far.

> Hope this helps,

Immensely.  Much appreciated.

> Ralph

Patrick


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Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[Mumia W..]

On 08/10/2007 01:39 PM, kaldrenon wrote:

Hey all. I just installed etch onto my Dell Inspiron B130 laptop using
the net-install CD that I got at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Given the description of the installer on the website, I had been
under the impression that when I ran the install I'd be able to choose
packages from Debian's (rather massive) list, but that instead of
having to burn 21 CDs I'd be able to download and install the packages
of my choice during the install process. 


No, the install process must be completed first.


However, when I ran the
install, I didn't get a chance to choose any of these packages - I got
a simple dialog with options like Print Server, Mail Server, and Web
Server, but nothing like a list that would have taken 21 CDs to hold.

My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
during the install?

Recommendations and tips are appreciated - I'm fairly new to the *nix
world, so feel free to assume I know nothing, beyond what 'ls' does.

Thanks in advance,
Andrew




Net-install allows you to have a basic Debian system from which you can 
install other software.


I suggest you select the "Desktop" option if there is one*. That should 
give you a graphical user interface and a few utilities. From there, you 
can use either "aptitude" or "synaptic" to install more Debian software 
packages. I suggest you use aptitude.


Refer to these:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/index.en.html

http://wiki.debian.org/

I hope this helps.

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Re: Conversion of .flv to .mpg format?

[Wu-Kung Sun]

On 8/9/07, Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 09, 2007 at 02:50:42PM -0500, Wu-Kung Sun wrote:
> > Use mencoder.  A basic example:
> > mencoder your.flv -oac copy -ovc lavc -of mpeg -lavcopts
> > vcodec=mpeg1video -o your.mpg
>
> This shouldn't work.  "oac copy" means to copy the video unchanged, but then
> you try to use the "lavcopts vcodec=mpeg1video", a flag that only works if
> you select "oac lavc".

-oac is output audio codec.  I tested it on a youtube video and it works.
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 09:04:15PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote:

> > I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc.
> > Set it like so:
> >
> > PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts
> >
> > I've tried some of the other ways discussed in the thread, and they
> > didn't work. I hope this helps.
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I already discovered that adding it to .bash_profile
> doesn't work, but to .bashrc does. But someone told me it should belong
> in .bash_profile.
> 
> Well, I don't know, but adding it to .bashrc works and I'm glad to know
> that I'm not the only one with this 'problem'.

It works as it should on my system:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ grep Hello .bash*
.bash_profile:echo "Hello from bash_profile"
.bashrc:echo "Hello from bashrc"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash
Hello from bashrc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ exit
exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ bash --login
Hello from bashrc
Hello from bash_profile
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Regards,
Andrei
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Orestes,

On 8/10/07, Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc.
> > Set it like so:
> >
> > PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts
>
> This works but, the ~/scripts dir appear for every user?
>
> because if /root/scripts = $HOME/scripts while runnning as root
> running as other user this don't work, so if you gonna use only for
> one user this solution it's okay.



Thanks for your response.
Well, it's a single user machine, anyway.

Manon.

Re: Questions about installing from net-install CD

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri, Aug 10, 2007 at 06:39:38PM -, kaldrenon wrote:
 
> My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
> meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
> list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
> during the install?

Was there no option like "Individual package selection" (I don't recall 
the exact wording)?

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Mumia,

On 8/10/07, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I want to add the dir ~/scripts to my path, what command do I use for
> that?
> >
> > M> echo $PATH
> > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
> >
> > But how do I add ~/scripts to that path?
> >
> > Thanks, Manon.
> >
>
> I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc.
> Set it like so:
>
> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts
>
> I've tried some of the other ways discussed in the thread, and they
> didn't work. I hope this helps.



Thanks for your reply. I already discovered that adding it to .bash_profile
doesn't work, but to .bashrc does. But someone told me it should belong
in .bash_profile.

Well, I don't know, but adding it to .bashrc works and I'm glad to know
that I'm not the only one with this 'problem'.

Manon.

Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Wayne,

On 8/10/07, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Are you doing all of this in KDE?  If so I have no clue.  I would
> suggest you go to a console VT and enter the path statements I showed.
> Then, if it doesn't work there, there is a real problem ...



Yes, I was doing this in KDE. I start bash from an icon on my panel
(it's run as /bin/bash --login). I tried what you suggested, switched to
tty1 and logged in as manon. It said "Hello World..." to me, coming
from the 'echo' line I previously added to .bash_profile. Same result
in tty2.

Well, there's definitely something wrong here, but it isn't really much of a
problem no more, coz I put my scripts in ~/bin now, as Andrei suggested.
And the problem seems to be related to starting a new bash session, not
to a tty or opening a new bash window.
However, obviously something is really messed up but I don't know
where to look for a solution.

The strange thing also is, when I put PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}" in .bashrc
a every new  session recognizes the new path although the order is
somewhat different (for readability I replaced /home/manon with ~):

first bash window: ~/bin:~/XX:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
second session: ~/XX:/~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
third session: ~/XX:/~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
etc.

second bash window: ~/bin:~/XX:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
second session: ~/XX:/~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
third session: ~/XX:/~/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
etc.

In tty1 & tty2 I got: ~/bin:~/XX:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games

Every tty greets me with "Hello World..."; every new bash window does
the same, but not a single new bash session says "Hello World..." to me.
So the problem seems to be related to second (or higher) bash sessions.
I thought it should inherit the path from its parent, but I'm not sure.

Confusing, huh?

Manon.

Questions about installing from net-install CD

[kaldrenon]

Hey all. I just installed etch onto my Dell Inspiron B130 laptop using
the net-install CD that I got at http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Given the description of the installer on the website, I had been
under the impression that when I ran the install I'd be able to choose
packages from Debian's (rather massive) list, but that instead of
having to burn 21 CDs I'd be able to download and install the packages
of my choice during the install process. However, when I ran the
install, I didn't get a chance to choose any of these packages - I got
a simple dialog with options like Print Server, Mail Server, and Web
Server, but nothing like a list that would have taken 21 CDs to hold.

My primary question is, did I misunderstand what the net-install was
meant to do? I had thought it would give me access to the full package
list via downloads - does it not do that? Or did I do something wrong
during the install?

Recommendations and tips are appreciated - I'm fairly new to the *nix
world, so feel free to assume I know nothing, beyond what 'ls' does.

Thanks in advance,
Andrew


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Re: How to add dir to path

[Orestes leal]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:45:40 -0500
"Mumia W.." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 08/07/2007 10:32 AM, Manon Metten wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I want to add the dir ~/scripts to my path, what command do I use for that?
> > 
> > M> echo $PATH
> > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games
> > 
> > But how do I add ~/scripts to that path?
> > 
> > Thanks, Manon.
> > 
> 
> I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc. 
> Set it like so:
> 
> PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts

This works but, the ~/scripts dir appear for every user?

because if /root/scripts = $HOME/scripts while runnning as root
running as other user this don't work, so if you gonna use only for 
one user this solution it's okay.
 
Best regards,
-olr



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Re: How to add dir to path

[Mumia W..]

On 08/07/2007 10:32 AM, Manon Metten wrote:

Hi,

I want to add the dir ~/scripts to my path, what command do I use for that?

M> echo $PATH
/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games

But how do I add ~/scripts to that path?

Thanks, Manon.



I believe the correct way to do this is to set the path in ~/.bashrc. 
Set it like so:


PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:$HOME/scripts

I've tried some of the other ways discussed in the thread, and they 
didn't work. I hope this helps.



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Recomendations - becoming a C soldier.

[Orestes leal]

Hi folks, 2 weeks ago I began to learn C,
my advances are very good, my question it's that,
The topic sounds funny but it's mostly serious,


QUESTION: Studying C 'every day' 4 hours with good understanding,
writing at least 10 programs to test this knowledge every day, the question
it: How Long Can I become a very 'very' good C  programmer to the point to hack 
in some
kernel of some system or writing good apps without some trouble?

best regards,
-olr





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Re: question about installing everything

[John Hasler]

Pat wrote:
> I know this may sound a little ridiculous to some, but I have been using
> Debian for several years now and was thinking about installing everything
> on a computer to experiment on etc.

Debian has tens of thousands of packages, many of which conflict (multiple
MTAs, for example).  "Installing everything" is neither possible nor
desireable.  Why would you want to, with the entire archive just an
'aptitude install packagename' away?
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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

On 8/10/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Michael Habashy wrote:
>
> top posting is where you put your reply at the top of the message. I just
> makes it difficult to read after a few replies, as people usually read
> top-> down
>
> > thanks for the quick reply.
> > 1. I do not know what you mean by top post Can you explain so i do
> not
> > do it again. thanks.
> > 2. I do not get you get in your messeges logs.  Here is what i get :
> >
> > Aug 10 13:38:16 rider kernel: usb 1-8: USB disconnect, address 3
> > Aug 10 13:38:32 rider kernel: usb 1-8: new full speed USB device using
> > ohci_hcd and address 4
> > Aug 10 13:38:33 rider kernel: usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> >
> > What happened here is that i unpluged the usb device (my cingular 8125
> > cellphone ) and i plugged it back in again..
> > this time it shows up with an address of 4 and that is it.
> > I see more devices in the /dev/ directory..but do not see any quick and
> easy
> > correlation ..like the you have it in your logs.
> > Any help would be appriciated.
> >
> > thanks
> > mjh
> >
> >
>
> Ok, so it's a phone we are trying to connect to.  That kinda changes
> things.  Phones can be strange beasts to deal with.  You might want to
> check out these pages:
> http://www.synce.org/index.php/Windows_Mobile_2005_HCL
>
> http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_Subversion
>
>
>
> -+-
> 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred
> Techno.



Thanks for the heads up.
Do you have any other words of wisdom regarding connecting a cellphonee?   I
can not make heads or tales of this tty mess.   I wish to connect my
cellphone so i can use it with Kannel (to send out sms text messeges)..it
has been driving me nutsdo you know a better way to do this with debian
???
thanks
mjh

Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Jeff D]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Michael Habashy wrote:

top posting is where you put your reply at the top of the message. I just 
makes it difficult to read after a few replies, as people usually read 
top-> down



thanks for the quick reply.
1. I do not know what you mean by top post Can you explain so i do not
do it again. thanks.
2. I do not get you get in your messeges logs.  Here is what i get :

Aug 10 13:38:16 rider kernel: usb 1-8: USB disconnect, address 3
Aug 10 13:38:32 rider kernel: usb 1-8: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 4
Aug 10 13:38:33 rider kernel: usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

What happened here is that i unpluged the usb device (my cingular 8125
cellphone ) and i plugged it back in again..
this time it shows up with an address of 4 and that is it.
I see more devices in the /dev/ directory..but do not see any quick and easy
correlation ..like the you have it in your logs.
Any help would be appriciated.

thanks
mjh




Ok, so it's a phone we are trying to connect to.  That kinda changes 
things.  Phones can be strange beasts to deal with.  You might want to 
check out these pages:

http://www.synce.org/index.php/Windows_Mobile_2005_HCL
http://www.synce.org/index.php/Building_SynCE_with_Windows_Mobile_2005_support_from_Subversion



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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

Nobody gets these devices appearing in their /dev directory???

usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.2_ep02  usbdev1.2_ep82  usbdev1.4_ep03
usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.4_ep02
usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.2_ep03  usbdev1.2_ep83  usbdev1.4_ep81
usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.4_ep81
usbdev1.2_ep00  usbdev1.2_ep81  usbdev1.4_ep00  usbdev1.4_ep82
usbdev2.4_ep00  usbdev2.4_ep88

Does anyone know what to do with them???

mjh



On 8/10/07, Michael Habashy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I keep getting this info in the logs...not very helpfull as to what to do
> next.
>
> usb 1-8: USB disconnect, address 3
> usb 1-8: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
> usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
>
> thanks in advance.
>  mjh
>
>
> On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Michael Habashy wrote:
> > > But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving
> > me up
> > > a wall.
> > > it puts these things in the log.
> > > I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
> > > And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i
> > want to
> > > hear...
> > > it is plain crazy.
> > >
> > > mjh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Michael Habashy wrote:
> > >>> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
> > >>> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar
> > messeges
> > >> like
> > >>> the ones below:
> > >>>
> > >>> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
> > >>> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device
> > using
> > >>> ohci_hcd and address 4
> > >>> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from
> > 1
> > >> choice
> > >>> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
> > >>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device
> > using
> > >>> ohci_hcd and address 5
> > >>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from
> > 1
> > >> choice
> > >>> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
> > >>> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
> > >>> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device
> > using
> > >>> ehci_hcd and address 4
> > >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from
> > 2
> > >>> choices
> > >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage
> > driver...
> > >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
> > >> Storage
> > >>> devices
> > >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver
> > usb-storage
> > >>>
> > >>> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
> > >>> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
> > >>> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
> > >>> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
> > >>> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
> > >>>
> > >>> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a
> > >> document
> > >>> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
> > >>> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got
> > myself
> > >> into
> > >>> ?
> > >>>
> > >>> thanks
> > >>> mjh
> > >>>
> > >> My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.
> > >>
> > >>
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> > Oh, now I remmembered, I saw it in dmesg output. Reconnect your device
> > and run "dmesg".
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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

I keep getting this info in the logs...not very helpfull as to what to do
next.

usb 1-8: USB disconnect, address 3
usb 1-8: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 4
usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice

thanks in advance.
mjh


On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Michael Habashy wrote:
> > But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving me
> up
> > a wall.
> > it puts these things in the log.
> > I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
> > And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i
> want to
> > hear...
> > it is plain crazy.
> >
> > mjh
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Michael Habashy wrote:
> >>> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
> >>> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges
> >> like
> >>> the ones below:
> >>>
> >>> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
> >>> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> >>> ohci_hcd and address 4
> >>> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> >> choice
> >>> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
> >>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> >>> ohci_hcd and address 5
> >>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> >> choice
> >>> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
> >>> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
> >>> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
> >>> ehci_hcd and address 4
> >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
> >>> choices
> >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
> >> Storage
> >>> devices
> >>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver
> usb-storage
> >>>
> >>> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
> >>> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
> >>> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
> >>> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
> >>> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
> >>>
> >>> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a
> >> document
> >>> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
> >>> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got
> myself
> >> into
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>> mjh
> >>>
> >> My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.
> >>
> >>
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>
> Oh, now I remmembered, I saw it in dmesg output. Reconnect your device
> and run "dmesg".
>
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Re: How to add dir to path

[Wayne Topa]

Manon Metten([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> On 8/9/07, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> OK I think I found the problem.
> >
> > Your path statement is incorrect.
> > PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}"
> >
> > Try this
> >
> > SCRIPTS="/where/your/scripts/are"
> > PATH="$PATH:$SCRIPTS"
> 
> 
> That ain't the solution either. I got exactly the same output.
> So I entered the line echo "Hello World..." at the end of
> .bash_profile, just to see if if were executed by a new bash
> session. And ... NO.
> 
> Whenever I open a new bash window, I read "Hello World..."
> but when I open a new session, no message is shown.
> 
> So, I think the problem is whenever I open a new session,
> .bash_profile isn't read anymore. But I really have no clue how
> to solve this.

Are you doing all of this in KDE?  If so I have no clue.  I would
suggest you go to a console VT and enter the path statements I showed.
Then, if it doesn't work there, there is a real problem or I am an
idiot.

Wayne

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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Marko Randjelovic]

Michael Habashy wrote:
> But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving me up
> a wall.
> it puts these things in the log.
> I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
> And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i want to
> hear...
> it is plain crazy.
> 
> mjh
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Michael Habashy wrote:
>>> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
>>> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges
>> like
>>> the ones below:
>>>
>>> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
>>> ohci_hcd and address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>> choice
>>> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
>>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
>>> ohci_hcd and address 5
>>> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
>> choice
>>> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
>>> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
>>> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
>>> ehci_hcd and address 4
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
>>> choices
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
>> Storage
>>> devices
>>> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
>>>
>>> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
>>> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
>>> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
>>> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
>>> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
>>>
>>> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a
>> document
>>> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
>>> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself
>> into
>>> ?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> mjh
>>>
>> My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.
>>
>>
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Oh, now I remmembered, I saw it in dmesg output. Reconnect your device
and run "dmesg".


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Jeff D]

On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Michael Habashy wrote:

Note: please don't top post, it makes it hard to read and follow threads


But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving me up
a wall.
it puts these things in the log.
I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i want to
hear...
it is plain crazy.

mjh



On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Michael Habashy wrote:

To all -- I would appriciate any help...
Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges

like

the ones below:

Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 4
Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1

choice

Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 5
Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1

choice

Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 4
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
choices
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass

Storage

devices
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage

I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81

I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a

document

on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself

into

?

thanks
mjh



My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.




It looks like you machine is finding the device and if you look further 
into the log, you will see where it gets its device name.  Here I just 
plugged in a usb key:
Aug 10 10:15:31 proto kernel: usb 3-4.3: new high speed USB device using 
ehci_hcd and address 7
Aug 10 10:15:31 proto kernel: usb 3-4.3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 
choice
Aug 10 10:15:31 proto kernel: scsi7 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage 
devices

Aug 10 10:15:31 proto kernel: usb-storage: device found at 7
Aug 10 10:15:31 proto kernel: usb-storage: waiting for device to settle 
before scanning
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel:   Vendor: SanDisk   Model: Cruzer Mini 
Rev: 0.4
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel:   Type:   Direct-Access 
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: SCSI device sdf: 4001760 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (2049 MB)

Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: Write Protect is off
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: assuming drive cache: write through
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: SCSI device sdf: 4001760 512-byte hdwr 
sectors (2049 MB)

Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: Write Protect is off
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel: sdf: assuming drive cache: write through
Aug 10 10:15:36 proto kernel:  sdf: sdf1

so we see that it gets assigned to /dev/sdf with a partition at sdf1. Then 
you can mount /dev/sdf1 to where ever you like. Alternatively you can 
install the usbmount package, and it will auto mount usb devices as they 
get found as well.




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Re: Boot troubles

[Marko Randjelovic]

Plus wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I can't boot my Debian (
> 
> I installed Windows XP, it setted it's  own code in MBR. I wasn't
> confused, I just inserted first DVD of Debian GNU/Linux Sarge in
> DVD-ROM, but then I understood... The kernels on DVD doesn't support my
> reiserfs filesystem!
> 
> Now I'm really stoped. I don't know, what to do and how to run GRUB from
> my system...
> 
> I can't download some LiveCD distributive with reiserfs support because
> my internet is very limited. I can't by it because of "living at small
> town somewhere in Russia"...
> 
> May be there is some solution how to install GRUB with it's settings in
> my MBR again?
> 
> Respect,
> Plus.
> 

First, try to get Etch if you have posibilities. It has much newer software.

Anyway, Sarge should support reiserfs, even if kernels does not, you
need only to install grub and it does support reiserfs. As I can
remember, you need to enter "expert2.6" at Install CD boot prompt to get
all options.


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Re: question about installing everything

[George]

Pat wrote:

 I know this may sound a little ridiculous to some, but I have been
using Debian for several years now and was thinking about installing
everything on a computer to experiment on etc.


I am the opposite, I use about 800MB each for Sid and Test (data 
separate and shared via symbolic links.  Years ago on a Thinkpad365 on a 
800MB-HD I ran Win, OS/2, and Linux plus some data.


On UBUNTU and SUSE installs about 1500MB are needed, if you load both 
Gnome and KDE expect 2GB.


I also considered installing everything and once installed a whole lot 
and found stuff I would never use or understand, possibly leading to 
confusion and a possible nervous breakdown.  Make sure you have good 
psychiatric insurance.


- a retired programmer whose sanity is occasionally questioned.


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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

But how do you know that ? it is /dev/sdb ??? this is what is driving me up
a wall.
it puts these things in the log.
I got a whole mess of strange devices in the /dev directory.
And if i download  a utility..it tells me everything...except what i want to
hear...
it is plain crazy.

mjh



On 8/10/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Michael Habashy wrote:
> > To all -- I would appriciate any help...
> > Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges
> like
> > the ones below:
> >
> > Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
> > Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> > ohci_hcd and address 4
> > Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> > Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
> > Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> > ohci_hcd and address 5
> > Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> > Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
> > Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
> > Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
> > ehci_hcd and address 4
> > Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
> > choices
> > Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> > Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass
> Storage
> > devices
> > Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
> >
> > I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
> > usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
> > usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
> > usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
> > usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
> >
> > I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a
> document
> > on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
> > Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself
> into
> > ?
> >
> > thanks
> > mjh
> >
>
> My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.
>
>
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Re: usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Marko Randjelovic]

Michael Habashy wrote:
> To all -- I would appriciate any help...
> Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges like
> the ones below:
> 
> Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
> Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> ohci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
> ohci_hcd and address 5
> Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
> Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
> Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
> Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
> ehci_hcd and address 4
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
> choices
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
> devices
> Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
> 
> I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
> usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
> usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
> usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
> usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81
> 
> I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a document
> on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
> Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself into
> ?
> 
> thanks
> mjh
> 

My MP3 player is on /dev/sdb, since sda is SATA HDD.


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Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Mike,

On 8/10/07, Mike McCarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Errr... She :-)
>
> Sorry 'bout that! Hard to see what you look like!


Never heard of a guy named Manon, only of 'A Boy Named Sue'.
But then again: What's in a name? :-)



Abject apologies and all that.
> Also, that's a better quote (from "My Fair Lady").


Well, that wasn't exactly necessary, but: axxepted.


Greetings, Manon.

Re: How to add dir to path

[Manon Metten]

Hi Wayne,

On 8/9/07, Wayne Topa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

OK I think I found the problem.
>
> Your path statement is incorrect.
> PATH=~/XX:"${PATH}"
>
> Try this
>
> SCRIPTS="/where/your/scripts/are"
> PATH="$PATH:$SCRIPTS"


That ain't the solution either. I got exactly the same output.
So I entered the line echo "Hello World..." at the end of
.bash_profile, just to see if if were executed by a new bash
session. And ... NO.

Whenever I open a new bash window, I read "Hello World..."
but when I open a new session, no message is shown.

So, I think the problem is whenever I open a new session,
.bash_profile isn't read anymore. But I really have no clue how
to solve this.

Greetings, Manon.

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[ss11223]

On Aug 10, 10:30 am, "s. keeling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> >  Just remember to tell you editor to "inserts spaces as tab" and set
> >  the tab width to something reasonable like 4.
>
> E, yuck!  It's code like that which makes me happy for emacs:
>
>C-x h# mark entire buffer
>M-x untabify # replace tab chars with spaces
>
> I despise tabs.
>

Check out the "expand" command. It's easier to script when you need to
do some directories full of files.

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usb and debian 4.0 os ...can i get some pointers???please???

[Michael Habashy]

To all -- I would appriciate any help...
Everytime i insert a usb device on my serveri get similar messeges like
the ones below:

Aug 10 11:28:18 rider kernel: usb 1-4: USB disconnect, address 4
Aug 10 11:28:41 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 4
Aug 10 11:28:42 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Aug 10 11:30:39 rider kernel: usb 2-8: USB disconnect, address 4
Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: new full speed USB device using
ohci_hcd and address 5
Aug 10 11:30:48 rider kernel: usb 2-8: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
Aug 10 11:47:57 rider -- MARK --
Aug 10 09:06:35 rider kernel: usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 3
Aug 10 09:07:30 rider kernel: usb 1-4: new high speed USB device using
ehci_hcd and address 4
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usb 1-4: configuration #1 chosen from 2
choices
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: scsi6 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage
devices
Aug 10 09:07:31 rider kernel: usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage

I further get some devices showing up in /dev directory like:
usbdev1.1_ep00  usbdev1.7_ep02  usbdev2.1_ep00  usbdev2.2_ep02
usbdev2.2_ep82  usbdev2.5_ep03
usbdev1.1_ep81  usbdev1.7_ep81  usbdev2.1_ep81  usbdev2.2_ep03
usbdev2.2_ep83  usbdev2.5_ep81

I can not seem to access them or do anything with them.  Is there a document
on how debian 4.0 deals with usb devices?
Somehting that wll help me through this jigsaw puzzle that i got myself into
?

thanks
mjh

Re: newbie here - system administration question

[Chris Lale]

Per olof Ljungmark wrote:
> Hi debianites,
> 
> I am a complete beginner with Debian and need a little help to get
> going. Specifically, I wonder how you configure the system (not
> installed software), things like the network, users, logging etc.
> [...]

You may find answers to some of your problems on the website of the NewbieDOC
project [1]. The great thing is that you can contribute your experiences back to
the project because the website is a wiki.

There is an example of a /etc/network/interfaces file in section 3 of the
article on setting up a wireless network card [2]. (The ethernet card - eth0 -
section has been commented out in this article.) You may need to add nameservers
to /etc/resolv.conf. You can restart the network with the new configuration, as
user root, with the commands
# /etc/init.d/networking stop
# /etc/init.d/networking start

If you want to dig deeper, have a look at some man pages with these commands
$ man ifconfig
$ man ifup

There is also an article on managing users and groups [3].

Logs are kept in /var/log/. Eg to view the last few entries in the system log
(as root)
# tail /var/log/syslog

To follow the system log in real time
# tail -f /var/log/syslog

Other ways to read the logs:
# more /var/log/syslog
# cat /var/log/syslog
# less /var/log/syslog
# grep -i fail /var/log/boot

(Check the man pages for these commands.)

You might find the Debian Reference [4] useful too.


[1] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de
[2]
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_set_up_a_wireless_network_card_using_drivers_from_Debian_packages#Permanent_setup_once_everything_is_working
[3] http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/Manage_users_and_groups
[4] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Ron Johnson]

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>>  Just remember to tell you editor to "inserts spaces as tab" and set
>>  the tab width to something reasonable like 4.
> 
> E, yuck!  It's code like that which makes me happy for emacs:
> 
>C-x h# mark entire buffer
>M-x untabify # replace tab chars with spaces
> 
> I despise tabs.

EVE does something similar:
 CONV TAB

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Boot troubles

[Plus]

Hello.

I can't boot my Debian (

I installed Windows XP, it setted it's  own code in MBR. I wasn't 
confused, I just inserted first DVD of Debian GNU/Linux Sarge in 
DVD-ROM, but then I understood... The kernels on DVD doesn't support my 
reiserfs filesystem!


Now I'm really stoped. I don't know, what to do and how to run GRUB from 
my system...


I can't download some LiveCD distributive with reiserfs support because 
my internet is very limited. I can't by it because of "living at small 
town somewhere in Russia"...


May be there is some solution how to install GRUB with it's settings in 
my MBR again?


Respect,
Plus.


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Re: newbie here - system administration question

[Per olof Ljungmark]

s. keeling wrote:

Per olof Ljungmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 Where except on the local machine can I find Debian man pages?
 http://manpages.debian.net/
 is not very informative I'm afraid...


FWIW, I've always considered a *nix box which doesn't have manpages
installed, a clumsily installed *nix box.


So do I, always have them installed, even in this case. However, when I 
can and especially when working with new stuff, I try to use a good web 
interface if available in parallel to terminal sessions.


And, if the online manpages does not work, why link to them?


Just my $0.02.


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Re: New hard drive problem

[William Walter]

On 8/6/07, Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, William Walter wrote:
>
> > i've a computer with debian etch. i've recently added a new sata hard
> drive
> > and enter the harddrive in /etc/fstab. It was working fine. Suddenly
> > today Debian etch is not booting properly. I'm getting
> > the following errors:
> >
> > Begin:Mounting root file system ...
> > Begin:Running /scripts/local-top ...
> > Done.
> > Begin:Running /scripts/local-premount ...
> > Done.
> > mount:Mounting /dev/sda1 on /root failed:No such Device
> >
> > Begin:Running /scripts/local-bottom...
> > Done.
> > Begin:Running /scripts/init-bottom...
> > mount:Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed:No such file or
> > directory
> > Done.
> > mount:Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed:No such file or directory
> >
> > mount:Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed:No such file or directory
> > Target file system doesn't have /sbin/init
> >
> > BusyBox v1.1.3(Debian 1:1.1.3-3)Built in Shell(ash)
> > Enter 'help' for a list of built in commands
> > /bin/sh:can't access tty;job control turned off
> > (initramfs)
> >
> > I've checked the cables it's fine. One more thing i like to mention.
> When i
> >
> > disconnect the brand new hard drive no problem on booting. The problem
> > is only when i add the new hard drive. Can anyone kindly help me find
> the
> > problem? Thanks.
> >
> >Sounds like your new drive is being found first.  One thing you could do
> >is, boot up with the new drive disconnected.  run blkid, this will print
> >out the uuid of drive/partitions.  in /etc/fstab , replace /dev/sda# with
> >the corresponding uuid.  that way your system wont get confused when it
> >finds the new disk.



After modifying the fstab file with UUID debian boots up without any error.
I believe you are right. Thanks a lot for solving this problem.

Re: Filesystem corruption on md (Software) RAID

[Sebastian Flothow]

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> Defintely sounds like hardware is failing.
> You could try installing smartmontools onto your system and use it
> to scan your drives. It might tell you if you have some bad sectors, or
> some other failing component.

The hardware is fine - I checked the SMART status, did a full read/write
test with badblocks on md0, and in fact the very same hardware and RAID
setup worked fine for the past year, using a 2.4 kernel, with high
filesystem load every day.

It's just when I put a filesystem on top of an md device that things
break - my assumption is that there is a race in the kernel involving
sata_sx4 and the md modules. Given that the Promise SX4 is not really a
shining piece of hardware, and not that popular, I wouldn't be surprised
if the driver is a bit flaky too.

Anyway, we've decided to replace it with a real RAID controller, that
should sort things out.


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Re: newbie here - system administration question

[s. keeling]

Per olof Ljungmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  Where except on the local machine can I find Debian man pages?
>  http://manpages.debian.net/
>  is not very informative I'm afraid...

FWIW, I've always considered a *nix box which doesn't have manpages
installed, a clumsily installed *nix box.

   Newbie:  "How do I do $foo?!?  HELP!!!"

   You: "RTFM!"

   Newbie: "*WHAT* FM?!?"

However, allowances can be made for embeddeds.

You can often find manpages in google, btw.


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Re: Substituting one font for another system-wide?

[Tim Hull]

>
>
> Really?  I find that fonts are fuzzier without hinting.


Other fonts, however, look much better with the autohinter (which is turned
on using "dpkg-reconfigurew fontconfig-config") on.

Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[s. keeling]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  Just remember to tell you editor to "inserts spaces as tab" and set
>  the tab width to something reasonable like 4.

E, yuck!  It's code like that which makes me happy for emacs:

   C-x h# mark entire buffer
   M-x untabify # replace tab chars with spaces

I despise tabs.


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Syslog Agents for Win32

[Nathan]

I've got my first Linux box up and running as a syslog server.  It is 
working fine.  I've got several Windows servers that I would like to 
have them log their event logs to the Linux box.


I've been using a program called "winlogd" 
(http://edoceo.com/creo/winlogd.php).  However it seems to log TOO much. 
 System calls, debug info, etc, etc are all being logged.  I don't know 
of any way to adjust it, and since it doesn't appear to conform to Unix 
syslog levels and I don't know how to go about filtering out the junk in 
my syslog-ng conf file.


Is there a "better" syslog agent for Windows out there that I've missed? 
 Or is there a setting on this program or in my conf file that I've 
missed?  Thanks for your help.


Nathan


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Re: trying to connect to usb devices...can not get tty -but get some strange stuff

[Michael Habashy]

thanks for the quick reply.
the command works for me --meaning i get  a whole lot of informaiton that i
do not know what to do with.

Can you give me a pointer on how i can find out the device name (i.e.
/dev/ttyXXX) so i can use it in Kannel and i can start sending sms text
messeges out ??? the kannel.conf need to know what the device name is --i.e:

# SMSC GSM
group = smsc
smsc = at
modemtype = wavecom | premicell | siemens | siemens-tc35 | falcom |
nokiaphone | ericsson
device = /dev/ttyS0
pin = 2345
validityperiod = 167

thanks for any input.
mjh


On 8/10/07, Jude DaShiell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Try typing lsusb -v  and see if things start to work after you do
> that.  I don't know why it is, but a usb iomega 250MB zip disk with a
> useable disk in it on this machine doesn't become useful until after I've
> done that command.
>
>
>
>

Re: How to make phone call using modem in Linux

[Roby]

Kieu Minh Thang wrote:

> Hi everyone,
> 
> I have used Linux on a computer with modem included. How to use this
> modem to make phone call. Is there a software like Phone Dialer on
> Windows?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Thang Kieu

dtmfdial accepts a numeric string command line and sends it as dtmf
tones via the modem.  I use it with kaddressbook to dial out.


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Re: em64t

[Ron Johnson]

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> On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 20:13 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 08/09/07 19:07, Krzysztof Lubański wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>   "[...]it's clearly stated" - I meant the difference between IA-64 and
>>> EM64T/AMD64 (emphasized right below "IA-64" heading at
>>> http://www.debian.org/ports/), not EM64T -> Intel 64 marketing name
>>> change.
>> I see reference to "Intel's first 64-bit architecture" and "Intel
>> 64-bit extensions", but nothing that says that "Intel 64" is a new
>> marketing name.
> 
>   Okay, one more clarification then: I did _not_ mention "Intel 64"
> based on Debian's website. See Intel's site, for instance:

I thought you did, since the "ports" page was the only link you put
in your email.

> http://www.intel.com/technology/architecture-silicon/intel64/

Ok, that makes sense now.

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Re: Bzflag Segfaults

[Manaen Schlabach]

On 8/10/07, David Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/7/07, Manaen Schlabach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I suppose it's bad form to reply to your own list message but maybe my
> > experiences will help someone else out.  I have determined that it
> > isn't just bzflag that has segmentation faults, xmms, and pan are also
>
>
> I also noticed a segfault with pan (0.131 - locally compiled) after just
> going into
> an article from the article list pane. This happened after a dist-upgrade I
> performed
> earlier in the day (running lenny). I recall there was quite a bit of
> changing going on
> with glibc and other important system libraries, libgtk 2.0 as well, which
> could be the
> cause of the segfault problems. In any event, recompilation (of 0.132) and
> installation
> solved that problem.
>
> I don't have bzflag installed so I am unfamiliar with it. But from
> 'apt-cache show bzflag' it
> seems that at least some of the dependencies are libgl related (and I don't
> remember upgrading
> those all that recently) but I do see that libcurl3 is among the
> dependencies. libcurl3 has some
> problems I suppose that leads the dist-upgrade to want to remove
> gnome-desktop-environment,
> from what I could tell this morning.
>

I agree with your assessment and thought that I might simply just
compile the programs independently.  This resulted in large number of
compilation errors so I also guessed that glibc and possibly gtk could
be involved.  I am a bit busy at work at the moment and don't have a
whole lot of extra time so I chose to use apt-pinning to go back to
debian stable which resolved the issue.  I did try unstable first but
had the same issues.  Let's hope devs are aware of it.


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Re: em64t

[Krzysztof Lubański]

On Thu, 2007-08-09 at 20:13 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 08/09/07 19:07, Krzysztof Lubański wrote:
> > [...]
> >   "[...]it's clearly stated" - I meant the difference between IA-64 and
> > EM64T/AMD64 (emphasized right below "IA-64" heading at
> > http://www.debian.org/ports/), not EM64T -> Intel 64 marketing name
> > change.
> 
> I see reference to "Intel's first 64-bit architecture" and "Intel
> 64-bit extensions", but nothing that says that "Intel 64" is a new
> marketing name.

  Okay, one more clarification then: I did _not_ mention "Intel 64"
based on Debian's website. See Intel's site, for instance:

http://www.intel.com/technology/architecture-silicon/intel64/

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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Steve Lamb]

Nate Duehr wrote:
> And when you venture past yours, you'll find that ALL programming
> languages have SERIOUS flaws in them... and that most can get this
> particular relatively simple job done, just fine, with fairly similar
> amounts of effort by someone who is sufficiently skilled in that
> particular language.

Which was never my point.  As expressed several times now.  Please stop
ignoring it.

> In other words, if it takes you only 15 minutes to write something to do
> the job in Python, because you enjoy Python, someone else will also just
> as easily (to them) write the same program with the same results in
> shell, or Perl, or zsh's flavor of "shell" or whatever.

Sorry, I seriously doubt that.

> It doesn't matter -- at all -- what you choose, if you're comfortable
> with your choice.  Even if you're not good with a particular language or
> any language, starting the project and ignoring the constant clamor of
> the hoards of people spending their time arguing about which language is
> "better", you'll get far more done than they ever will accomplish.

Difference is the OP was requesting opinions.  You don't like mine.
Great, we got it.

> You appear to have found the God of Python meets your every need, and
> you bow down and submit your reverent respect for the sacrament of
> Whitespace, as all who follow the Python path, must.

Sorry, no, that is where you are wrong.  I am correcting the
misconceptions that other people have about whitespace and also giving my hard
earned experience in scripting several different languages on many different
platforms.  However if you think for one second that I think others should
conform to my ideals then you missed my final message to the OP.

-
Manon Metten wrote:
> > But I think the scope of regina-rexx is somewhat limited compared to
> > python. But for the moment I can use it and gradually learn bash, python,
> > perl or whatever suits me.

In all honesty, that is the best thing to do.  Go with what you know and
expand into what you prefer from there.

-

Hardly sounds like someone pushing his ideals on others.  There's a fine
line between expressing an opinion, correcting misconceptions and believing
that others are truly wrong in what they do.  I've done two of the three and
neither is the one you think I've done.

> The original poster seemed worried that he only knows a couple of
> (perhaps) obscure languages.  If those languages can't make system
> calls, he'll have to learn something new.  But the hardest concept to
> pass to folks staring at that mountain is that the underlying concepts
> of variables, loops, conditionals, etc etc etc... don't change!

Nope, they don't.  But at the same token there are measurable and
quantifiable differences in the effectiveness of coding practices and the
effect a language has on how quickly one can hammer out code.

> I'll give you one thing Steve, you were one of the only people to
> publish code samples.  Nicely done on that.

Two or three, actually.

> But I truly believe (after watching these debates go on literally for
> over a decade in many cases) that the choice of language is personal,

That it is.  But when there are skewed perceptions about what comes into a
language then one can miss great opportunities which might better suit their
personal feel of what a language should or should not do.

> I think it matters little, for such a small and simple program, what
> language is used.  The OP just needs to try a few and see what they like.

But that's just it.  The OP did not mention what use he had for his
language.  You're looking at the narrow scope of "oh, someone wants to convert
files from A to B".  That is not what was asked.  What was asked was a general
case of which is better, bash or Python.  Both are fully capable of handling
the quick and dirty cases that shell does a passable job at.  That is why the
example of converting a file from A to B came about.  But of those two choices
only Python can go on to do a great many other things.

Given the general case with no specific information are you going to
recommend the simplistic and idiosyncratic, limited use shell scripting
language or are you going to recommend the language which can handle anything
shell does just as well, can also be used for near-native programming of
graphical, cross-platform applications, has been used as a scripting languages
for games as well as the main programming language for games themselves?


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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?

[Nate Duehr]

On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Steve Lamb wrote:

Uh, no, fanboi.  I never said it had to remain a one liner.  In  
fact, that
was my point.  One liners rarely stay that way.  And when you  
venture past

your very narrow mindset you find the problems in shell.


And when you venture past yours, you'll find that ALL programming  
languages have SERIOUS flaws in them... and that most can get this  
particular relatively simple job done, just fine, with fairly similar  
amounts of effort by someone who is sufficiently skilled in that  
particular language.


In other words, if it takes you only 15 minutes to write something to  
do the job in Python, because you enjoy Python, someone else will  
also just as easily (to them) write the same program with the same  
results in shell, or Perl, or zsh's flavor of "shell" or whatever.


Some other folks can write the thing just as easily and quickly (from  
their perspective) in REXX, C, whatever else you can think of -- in  
this case, something that can make system calls to the outside heavy- 
hitter conversion software that's really doing the hard work.


It doesn't matter -- at all -- what you choose, if you're comfortable  
with your choice.  Even if you're not good with a particular language  
or any language, starting the project and ignoring the constant  
clamor of the hoards of people spending their time arguing about  
which language is "better", you'll get far more done than they ever  
will accomplish.


It's just something for coders (who are human and have different  
tastes) to argue incessantly over, and for some to evangelize as  
"religion".   You appear to have found the God of Python meets your  
every need, and you bow down and submit your reverent respect for the  
sacrament of Whitespace, as all who follow the Python path, must.


The original poster seemed worried that he only knows a couple of  
(perhaps) obscure languages.  If those languages can't make system  
calls, he'll have to learn something new.  But the hardest concept to  
pass to folks staring at that mountain is that the underlying  
concepts of variables, loops, conditionals, etc etc etc... don't change!


I'll give you one thing Steve, you were one of the only people to  
publish code samples.  Nicely done on that.


But I truly believe (after watching these debates go on literally for  
over a decade in many cases) that the choice of language is personal,  
and more a preference than something people can articulate properly  
in terms of "better".  "Something I like" might be a much better way  
to eplain it.


I think it matters little, for such a small and simple program, what  
language is used.  The OP just needs to try a few and see what they  
like.


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Re: switch from xserver-xorg-video-i810 to -intel and unsupported modes

[Anton Piatek]

Kieu Minh Thang wrote:
> Dear Anton Piatek,
>
> I see that you have used the right drivers, I have 19" monitor and use
> it too (xserver-xorg-video-intel). It display perfectly.
>
> Follow you error:
>
> (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1440x900" (hsync out of range)
> (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1600x1024" (hsync out of range)
> (II) intel(0): Not using default mode "1680x1050" (hsync out of range)
>
> maybe you have misconfigure in hsync & vsync value
> Let's try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
> OR edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually with hsync & vsync value get from
> Monitor document (or you can get it using hwinfo package)
>
I have tried with specifid h/v sync ranges as given in the monitor
manual, as well as no values such that auto detection takes place -
neither worked.

Are you using a vga or dvi connection to the monitor? I am using DVI,
and wonder if that is making things harder? (i would of course prefer
dvi, but would be happy with vga at this rate).

Anton

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