Re: libc relocation error
If anyone is going through this problem, hopefully my resolution might help them - it looks like in the upgrade of libc-dev, something got hosed. The interim solution to the problem while I fixed the install was to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/lib, as it seemed that the problem was arising from the symbols in the files in /lib/tls. After the full install, things started working, and I unset the environment variable. -lev On Aug 17, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Lev Lvovsky wrote: after further digging, I've found this thread on the debian glibc list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2005/03/msg00145.html I'll be looking into how I can fix the problem - their suggested fix does not work. -lev -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is grub installed?
On 8/18/07, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > P Kapat wrote: > > Hi, > > Suppose my hard disks are setup as: > > > > IDE (Master) > > /dev/hda1 -- ext3 -- 10 GB > > /dev/hda2 -- ext3 -- 100 GB > > /dev/hda3 -- ext3 -- 50 GB > > > > SATA (connected to SATA 1 controller on the mobo) > > /dev/sda1 -- ext3 -- 50GB -- / > > /dev/sda2 -- ext3 -- 500 MB -- /boot > > /dev/sda3 -- ext3 -- 100 GB -- /home > > > > So, the GRUB oncfig files are in /dev/sda2 (/boot/grub). I am assuming > > that grub is installed in /dev/sda2. So, where is the MBR? Is it on > > the first track of the first partition of the first hard disk, ie > > /dev/hda1? > > The MBR is _not_ part of any partition, is the boot sector of the drive. > And is in the disk from where you're booting so check in your BIOS. Thanks for the explanation. > > > > > If so, suppose I format /dev/hda1 will the MBR be gone implying that I > > cannot reboot m y system? > > No. > > > What is the safest way to partition the disks so that, if sometime > > later I install someother OS (Solaris/FreeBSD/Anyother GNU/Linux but > > not Windows) the MBR is not disturbed and I can use it to boot into > > the existing Debian. > > Just don't rewrite the MBR with something that will override your actual > GRUB config. Yes, as I will have to learn to do that. > > Regards, > Jose Luis. Thanks again. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is grub installed?
On 8/18/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 04:38:33PM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > > Suppose my hard disks are setup as: > > > > IDE (Master) > > /dev/hda1 -- ext3 -- 10 GB > > /dev/hda2 -- ext3 -- 100 GB > > /dev/hda3 -- ext3 -- 50 GB > > > > SATA (connected to SATA 1 controller on the mobo) > > /dev/sda1 -- ext3 -- 50GB -- / > > /dev/sda2 -- ext3 -- 500 MB -- /boot > > /dev/sda3 -- ext3 -- 100 GB -- /home > > > > So, the GRUB oncfig files are in /dev/sda2 (/boot/grub). I am assuming > > that grub is installed in /dev/sda2. So, where is the MBR? Is it on > > the first track of the first partition of the first hard disk, ie > > /dev/hda1? > > It is wherever you told grub to put it. On debian, it should go on the > MBR of the drive, which in your example would be the MBR of /dev/hda. I see. > The MBR is the first block of the drive (first 512 B) with the partition > table in the subsequent block somewhere (check wikipedia). Thanks I will check that. > This means that you can reformat /dev/hda1 to your heart's content. Good to know that. > > > > > If so, suppose I format /dev/hda1 will the MBR be gone implying that I > > cannot reboot m y system? > > > > > > What is the safest way to partition the disks so that, if sometime > > later I install someother OS (Solaris/FreeBSD/Anyother GNU/Linux but > > not Windows) the MBR is not disturbed and I can use it to boot into > > the existing Debian. > > There's the rub. It seems that all OSs by default figure that they are > the only OS and put their boot loader in the MBR of the first hard > drive. I was actually surprised to to learn this the hard way. A few days back, I was trying (out of inane curiosity) the "Open Solaris". It uses GRUB as the bootloader too, but could not find my Debian installation and (all to my discredit) installed its grub on the MBR of hda1. Then I could not get Solaris's grub to boot my debian (i tried the usual configurations in Solaris-Grub's (not the one /dev/sda2) /boot/grub/menu.lst). > However, every OS that you may want to install should include > documentation on dual-booting. One of your considerations is whether or > not Grub can boot that OS. I think (check the docs) that as long as > Grub will boot it, you leave grub in the MBR and put the OS's loader on > the actual partition, then set up grub to chain-load. The bios will boot > Grub, then Grub will boot the OS's loader which will in turn boot the > OS. Yes, that makes sense. > My new Athlon64 Asus bios has an F8 boot menu. It presents a list of > drives to attempt to boot. If I had multiple OSs with multiple drives, > I'd install each OS on its own drive with its loader in the drive's MBR, > then use the bios boot menu to choose which drive to boot. I will have to learn to tell grub where to install it. Never paid much attention to it. > Doug. Thanks again. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/18/07 20:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >>> Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it > >>> but I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing > >>> first. I can see several possible problems. Last time I was > >>> working with USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not > >>> plug them in using the same order /dev/sda could become /dev/sdb, > >>> so I could see that as an issue, for starters. > >>> > >>> If anyone has experience with this, I'd like to hear about it and > >>> if it's a good or bad idea. > >> > >> What's the problem that you are trying to solve? > > > > At this point I'm exploring several possibilities. > > Possible whats? Drinking games? Strip clubs? Are there any lists you're on where you haven't brought up naked women out of context? :-? Possibilities of using USB drives instead of internal drives for a RAID. It would provide something close to hotplug and also > Yes, I'm being snide, but that's because you didn't answer my > question. > > Are you trying to solve a portability problem using high-capacity > external drives, or a speed problem with USB thumb drives? There's several reasons I'm looking into it. I suspect one issue with the box I've been using could be circulation, which I could solve with separate drive enclosures. It would make drive swapping easier and it could also make it portable. I don't know what else, which is why I asked the question. If people say, "Yeah, I've tried it and it doesn't work," then I drop the idea. If people tell me, "I've tried it and found it was a benefit because of a, b, and c, then I know it's worth looking into and perhaps worth using. That's why the original question: Has anyone tried this and what kind of experience did they have? I find when I'm looking at a new possibility, focusing on only my ideas can often close off discussion about other possibilities or benefits I hadn't thought of. > >If USB RAID is > > not practical or workable, then I'll just drop the possibility and > > stick with sata or pata drives. > > Many companies sell multi-drive USB & firewire enclosures, and lots > do RAID-5. Get one with 5 slots, stuff 750GB drives in it, and get > 3TB of easily transportable storage in the size of a large shoebox. That's an idea I might find useful! Thanks! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my sound card does not work in etch
My sound card use cs4281 and it works in sarge but it does not work in etch xawtv has no sound xmix can't start, it says no such device below is output by lsmod: Module Size Used by btaudio 15248 0 tuner 53256 0 bttv 159732 0 tvaudio 22428 0 ipv6 226016 10 button 6672 0 ac 5188 0 battery 9636 0 dm_snapshot 15552 0 dm_mirror 19152 0 dm_mod 50232 2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror loop 15048 0 tsdev 7520 0 snd_cs4281 2 0 gameport 14632 2 snd_cs4281 snd_rawmidi 22560 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_codec 83104 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_bus 2400 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm 68676 2 snd_cs4281,snd_ac97_codec snd_page_alloc 9640 1 snd_pcm snd_opl3_lib 9920 1 snd_cs4281 snd_seq_device 7820 2 snd_rawmidi,snd_opl3_lib rtc 12372 0 snd_timer 20996 2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib snd_hwdep 8836 1 snd_opl3_lib snd 47012 8 snd_cs4281,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep parport_pc 32132 0 parport 33256 1 parport_pc i2c_piix4 8140 0 psmouse 35016 0 serio_raw 6660 0 pcspkr 3072 0 video_buf 23012 1 bttv firmware_class 9600 1 bttv ir_common 27780 1 bttv compat_ioctl32 1472 1 bttv i2c_algo_bit 8424 1 bttv btcx_risc 4776 1 bttv tveeprom 13840 1 bttv i2c_core 19680 6 tuner,bttv,tvaudio,i2c_piix4,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom soundcore 9248 2 btaudio,snd videodev 21120 1 bttv v4l1_compat 12036 1 videodev v4l2_common 20448 3 tuner,bttv,videodev shpchp 33024 0 pci_hotplug 28704 1 shpchp intel_agp 21148 1 agpgart 29896 1 intel_agp evdev 9088 0 ext2 59048 1 mbcache 8356 1 ext2 sd_mod 19040 2 8139too 25120 0 uhci_hcd 21164 0 8139cp 21920 0 mii 5344 2 8139too,8139cp aic7xxx 150932 1 scsi_transport_spi 22336 1 aic7xxx scsi_mod 124168 3 sd_mod,aic7xxx,scsi_transport_spi usbcore 112644 2 uhci_hcd piix 9444 0 [permanent] generic 5476 0 [permanent] ide_core 110504 2 piix,generic thermal 13608 0 processor 28840 1 thermal fan 4804 0 --- Begin Message --- My sound card use cs4281 and it works in sarge but it does not work in etch xawtv has no sound xmix can't start, it says no such device below is output by lsmod: Module Size Used by btaudio15248 0 tuner 53256 0 bttv 159732 0 tvaudio22428 0 ipv6 226016 10 button 6672 0 ac 5188 0 battery 9636 0 dm_snapshot15552 0 dm_mirror 19152 0 dm_mod 50232 2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror loop 15048 0 tsdev 7520 0 snd_cs4281 2 0 gameport 14632 2 snd_cs4281 snd_rawmidi22560 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_codec 83104 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_bus2400 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm68676 2 snd_cs4281,snd_ac97_codec snd_page_alloc 9640 1 snd_pcm snd_opl3_lib9920 1 snd_cs4281 snd_seq_device 7820 2 snd_rawmidi,snd_opl3_lib rtc12372 0 snd_timer 20996 2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib snd_hwdep 8836 1 snd_opl3_lib snd47012 8 snd_cs4281,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep parport_pc 32132 0 parport33256 1 parport_pc i2c_piix4 8140 0 psmouse35016 0 serio_raw 6660 0 pcspkr 3072 0 video_buf 23012 1 bttv firmware_class 9600 1 bttv ir_common 27780 1 bttv compat_ioctl32 1472 1 bttv i2c_algo_bit8424 1 bttv btcx_risc 4776 1 bttv tveeprom 13840 1 bttv i2c_core 19680 6 tuner,bttv,tvaudio,i2c_piix4,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom soundcore 9248 2 btaudio,snd videodev 21120 1 bttv v4l1_compat12036 1 videodev v4l2_common20448 3 tuner,bttv,videodev shpchp 33024 0 pci_hotplug28704 1 shpchp intel_agp 21148 1 agpgart29896 1 intel_agp evdev 9088 0 ext2 59048 1 mbcache 8356 1 ext2 sd_mod 19040 2 8139too25120 0 uhci_hcd 21164 0 8139cp 21920 0 mii 5344 2 8139too,8139cp aic7xxx 150932 1 scsi_transport_spi 22336 1 aic7xxx scsi_mod 124168 3 sd_mod,aic7xxx,scsi_transport_spi usbcore 112644 2 uhci_hcd piix9444 0 [permanent] generic 5476 0 [permanent] ide_core 110504 2 piix,generic thermal13608 0 processor 28840 1 thermal fan 4804 0 --- End Message ---
Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 20:35, Hal Vaughan wrote: > On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but >>> I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. >>> I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working with >>> USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in >>> using the same order /dev/sda could become /dev/sdb, so I could see >>> that as an issue, for starters. >>> >>> If anyone has experience with this, I'd like to hear about it and >>> if it's a good or bad idea. >> What's the problem that you are trying to solve? > > At this point I'm exploring several possibilities. Possible whats? Drinking games? Strip clubs? Yes, I'm being snide, but that's because you didn't answer my question. Are you trying to solve a portability problem using high-capacity external drives, or a speed problem with USB thumb drives? >If USB RAID is not > practical or workable, then I'll just drop the possibility and stick > with sata or pata drives. Many companies sell multi-drive USB & firewire enclosures, and lots do RAID-5. Get one with 5 slots, stuff 750GB drives in it, and get 3TB of easily transportable storage in the size of a large shoebox. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD4DBQFGx7B6S9HxQb37XmcRAvaaAJjBlT+fwL2U1yjmOC7T/8OUyJYCAKCCaRkc GSOYRb/rRHTiJIHSEl032A== =9Ppl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: change partitions
On Sun, Aug 19, 2007 at 11:36:41AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I installed Debian on a machine with several other pations (window, > RH9.1, etc). During the installation, it indicated one of my linux > partition had some problems (it is formated by ext3, but can only write > to the disk with used space only higher than 70%). Now I am going to fix > that partition before I am going to mount it to Debian. Also, I am no > longer need to use MS window and I am going to remove all window > partitions. I know it is risk operation and I need to take advice here > before I delete or alter the partitions. > > Should I use fdisk to remove the window partition or if there is a > better partition tool I can use in Debian? Personally, for this sort of thing I use cfdisk. > > Can I remove the window partition from Linux? > Sure. > Is there a partition tool in Debian which can detect the ext3 partition > problem and to fix it without re-format or re-partition? > The 'partitions' are only numbers in a table that OS's refer to to see what block starts the next partition and where it ends. I'm assuming that your problem with the partition is actually with the filesystem on that partition. With it unmounted, run e2fsck -cc on it. The -cc means that a non-distructive read/write badblocks test will run on it. With modern drives you should not actually find any bad blocks unless the drive is at end-of-life and has used up its remapping space. However, if it completes fine you'll know that writing beyond the 70% range worked for the drive. Which partition has the problem? > Also, I have only one window OS, but I don't k now why both hda1 and > hda2 are for window partitions, can I delete both of them? I haven't run an MS product since windows 3.1 so I don't know. But since you don't need windows and you know that neither partition is needed, you should be able to remove them. This may end up changing the numbering of the extended partition from hda3 to either 1 or 2. However, the partitions in it should still start at hda5. > Please see following partition information and the debian boot is in > Master section. > > sudo fdisk -l > > Disk /dev/hda: 32.0 GB, 32003112960 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, > 3890 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes > >Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System >/dev/hda1 1 255 20482567 HPFS/NTFS >/dev/hda2 2561275 8193150b W95 FAT32 >/dev/hda31276389021004987+ 5 Extended >/dev/hda512761504 1839411 83 Linux >/dev/hda622962298 24066 83 Linux >/dev/hda722992364 530113+ 82 Linux swap >/ Solaris /dev/hda82365389012257563+ 83 >Linux /dev/hda9 *15051863 2883636 83 Linux >/dev/hda10 18642295 3470008+ 83 Linux > Since hda3 goes from cylinder 1276 to 3890 yet hda10 ends at 2295, there should also be some free space at the end. Good luck, Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 21:33, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [snip] > > I guess a problem is the lack of definition of 'clean coding'. I don't > consider one-liners as clean code. Terse yes but they lack the visual > flow that I need when I need to revamp code a year later. One-liners > are more of a challenge to do in python since indentation has an impact > on syntax. > > As for which language is best, the answer is none. Any language can > probably do anything, but for any problem one may be easier than > another. It will likely be the one you are more generally good at. I > find sh to be more cryptic than python so I turn to it sooner, which > leads over time to me becoming more and more comfortable with python. > So for problems that are best solved with some disposable code, it comes > down to in which language in which you produce functional code the fastest > and easiest. While I write lots of bash code, I don't have lots of .sh files hanging around $HOME, but there are lots of .py files. Anything I *know* is one-off I try to do in bash (usually making my xterm very wide!), whereas stuff that I'll be doing repetitively (even if not frequently) gets written in python. > Perhaps the OP can restate his needs and we can help him make a reasoned > choice without it becoming a religious issue. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx66QS9HxQb37XmcRAlOZAJ4ryFWnomJ2k9797gBuCGqW9mN1LQCcDsLk TF4aIgaKZb+9mE+gPpQOcEE= =HzxP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:30:04PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/18/07 18:28, Steve Lamb wrote: > > Ron Johnson wrote: > >> I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C & bash to know that > >> Python does *not* enforce clean coding. > > > > I don't think anyone has ever claimed that. > > Doug Tutty did this afternoon. (You conveniently snipped that part > out of your reply.) > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg01743.html > > whereas python enforces clean coding. > > >> What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect? > >> No. But still great.) > > > > So is Python with the added benefit of not having to defeat globbing > > at every step of the way. > > Sure, not having to worry about globbing rules can be handy. But > there's still a large set of problems that can quickly be solved by > a one-line bash for/done loop. I guess a problem is the lack of definition of 'clean coding'. I don't consider one-liners as clean code. Terse yes but they lack the visual flow that I need when I need to revamp code a year later. One-liners are more of a challenge to do in python since indentation has an impact on syntax. As for which language is best, the answer is none. Any language can probably do anything, but for any problem one may be easier than another. It will likely be the one you are more generally good at. I find sh to be more cryptic than python so I turn to it sooner, which leads over time to me becoming more and more comfortable with python. So for problems that are best solved with some disposable code, it comes down to in which language in which you produce functional code the fastest and easiest. Perhaps the OP can restate his needs and we can help him make a reasoned choice without it becoming a religious issue. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
change partitions
Hi, I installed Debian on a machine with several other pations (window, RH9.1, etc). During the installation, it indicated one of my linux partition had some problems (it is formated by ext3, but can only write to the disk with used space only higher than 70%). Now I am going to fix that partition before I am going to mount it to Debian. Also, I am no longer need to use MS window and I am going to remove all window partitions. I know it is risk operation and I need to take advice here before I delete or alter the partitions. Should I use fdisk to remove the window partition or if there is a better partition tool I can use in Debian? Can I remove the window partition from Linux? Is there a partition tool in Debian which can detect the ext3 partition problem and to fix it without re-format or re-partition? Also, I have only one window OS, but I don't k now why both hda1 and hda2 are for window partitions, can I delete both of them? Please see following partition information and the debian boot is in Master section. sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/hda: 32.0 GB, 32003112960 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 3890 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 1 255 20482567 HPFS/NTFS /dev/hda2 2561275 8193150b W95 FAT32 /dev/hda31276389021004987+ 5 Extended /dev/hda512761504 1839411 83 Linux /dev/hda622962298 24066 83 Linux /dev/hda722992364 530113+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/hda82365389012257563+ 83 Linux /dev/hda9 *15051863 2883636 83 Linux /dev/hda10 18642295 3470008+ 83 Linux Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID
On Saturday 18 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but > > I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. > > I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working with > > USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in > > using the same order /dev/sda could become /dev/sdb, so I could see > > that as an issue, for starters. > > > > If anyone has experience with this, I'd like to hear about it and > > if it's a good or bad idea. > > What's the problem that you are trying to solve? At this point I'm exploring several possibilities. If USB RAID is not practical or workable, then I'll just drop the possibility and stick with sata or pata drives. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using USB Drives for a RAID
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 19:39, Hal Vaughan wrote: > Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd > rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. I can > see several possible problems. Last time I was working with USG > devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in using the > same order /dev/sda could become /dev/sdb, so I could see that as an > issue, for starters. > > If anyone has experience with this, I'd like to hear about it and if > it's a good or bad idea. What's the problem that you are trying to solve? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx52gS9HxQb37XmcRAj5fAJ9dc0Rd+0MWBLbdMrV1hOciGaw3JQCgmgYe 0KcDAWuYhTtynD4kkBZNSvA= =k8l0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 18:28, Steve Lamb wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C & bash to know that >> Python does *not* enforce clean coding. > > I don't think anyone has ever claimed that. Doug Tutty did this afternoon. (You conveniently snipped that part out of your reply.) http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg01743.html whereas python enforces clean coding. >> What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect? >> No. But still great.) > > So is Python with the added benefit of not having to defeat globbing > at every step of the way. Sure, not having to worry about globbing rules can be handy. But there's still a large set of problems that can quickly be solved by a one-line bash for/done loop. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx50cS9HxQb37XmcRAqpsAKCnNE49IWQZYEchgLvWmgH8pN5YnwCdF46l roC7LT7bwk7Gs/1HZjffKvc= =KP+R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor Xorg performance in Etch
Andrei Popescu wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 06:01:10PM -0400, Marty wrote: Hello: I recently installed Etch on my new system and found X performance to be sluggish, particularly when using Iceape. It appears as if there is little or no hardware acceleration, remeniscent of a K7 with a slow graphics card. While scrolling a web page down (but never up), or moving windows the display sometimes freezes for about one second or more, with up to 100% CPU utilization. Did you check with top what is using the CPU? Xorg. To see the instantaneous usage I have to increase top's update frequency. Incidently, I noticed that I was running a lot of plugins, so I removed flash and disabled javascript, which helped a little but did not solve the problem. My hardware is a K8M800 chipset motherboard with an Athlon64 X2 5000+ and Radeon 7500. I have tested all recent kernels up to and including linux You call that a slow card? For 2D apps it should be very fast. Its responsiveness seems normal under moderate graphics load, only a few percent of the CPU, but jumps to 100% under heavy load, such as scolling up a large web page (i.e. a blog), opening a web page, starting or stopping an X app. When I enabled on the onboard VIA graphics I saw the same effect, but more pronounced. On a much older, slower system which I recently upgraded to Etch, I see a similar but less pronounced effect. grep enabled /var/log/Xorg.0.log (==) AIGLX enabled (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default (**) RADEON(0): Backing store enabled (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration enabled (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled (**) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled (==) RandR enabled Any errors in the log? If I enable the frame buffer (which I did since my last post): (EE) RADEON(0): MergedFB does not work with Option UseFBDev, MergedFB mode is disabled I also get the following warnings: (WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ... (WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0x1fff is: 0x1fff (WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffc0 is: 0xe07fe000 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 The last one is followed by several similar lines. The framebuffer does not seem to affect the freeze issue. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is grub installed?
P Kapat wrote: > Hi, > Suppose my hard disks are setup as: > > IDE (Master) > /dev/hda1 -- ext3 -- 10 GB > /dev/hda2 -- ext3 -- 100 GB > /dev/hda3 -- ext3 -- 50 GB > > SATA (connected to SATA 1 controller on the mobo) > /dev/sda1 -- ext3 -- 50GB -- / > /dev/sda2 -- ext3 -- 500 MB -- /boot > /dev/sda3 -- ext3 -- 100 GB -- /home > > So, the GRUB oncfig files are in /dev/sda2 (/boot/grub). I am assuming > that grub is installed in /dev/sda2. So, where is the MBR? Is it on > the first track of the first partition of the first hard disk, ie > /dev/hda1? The MBR is _not_ part of any partition, is the boot sector of the drive. And is in the disk from where you're booting so check in your BIOS. > > If so, suppose I format /dev/hda1 will the MBR be gone implying that I > cannot reboot m y system? No. > What is the safest way to partition the disks so that, if sometime > later I install someother OS (Solaris/FreeBSD/Anyother GNU/Linux but > not Windows) the MBR is not disturbed and I can use it to boot into > the existing Debian. Just don't rewrite the MBR with something that will override your actual GRUB config. Regards, Jose Luis. -- ghostbar on debian linux 'sid' 2.6.22 x86_64-SMP - #382503 Weblog: http://ghostbar.ath.cx/ - http://linuxtachira.org http://debian.org.ve - irc.debian.org #debian-ve #debian-devel-es San Cristóbal, Venezuela. http://chaslug.org.ve Fingerprint = 3E7D 4267 AFD5 2407 2A37 20AC 38A0 AD5B CACA B118 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Using USB Drives for a RAID
Has anyone built a RAID out of USB drives? I'm considering it but I'd rather hear from others who may have done the same thing first. I can see several possible problems. Last time I was working with USG devices, if I unplugged the drives and did not plug them in using the same order /dev/sda could become /dev/sdb, so I could see that as an issue, for starters. If anyone has experience with this, I'd like to hear about it and if it's a good or bad idea. Thanks! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
my sound card does not work in etch
My sound card use cs4281 and it works in sarge but it does not work in etch xawtv has no sound xmix can't start, it says no such device below is output by lsmod: Module Size Used by btaudio15248 0 tuner 53256 0 bttv 159732 0 tvaudio22428 0 ipv6 226016 10 button 6672 0 ac 5188 0 battery 9636 0 dm_snapshot15552 0 dm_mirror 19152 0 dm_mod 50232 2 dm_snapshot,dm_mirror loop 15048 0 tsdev 7520 0 snd_cs4281 2 0 gameport 14632 2 snd_cs4281 snd_rawmidi22560 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_codec 83104 1 snd_cs4281 snd_ac97_bus2400 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm68676 2 snd_cs4281,snd_ac97_codec snd_page_alloc 9640 1 snd_pcm snd_opl3_lib9920 1 snd_cs4281 snd_seq_device 7820 2 snd_rawmidi,snd_opl3_lib rtc12372 0 snd_timer 20996 2 snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib snd_hwdep 8836 1 snd_opl3_lib snd47012 8 snd_cs4281,snd_rawmidi,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_device,snd_timer,snd_hwdep parport_pc 32132 0 parport33256 1 parport_pc i2c_piix4 8140 0 psmouse35016 0 serio_raw 6660 0 pcspkr 3072 0 video_buf 23012 1 bttv firmware_class 9600 1 bttv ir_common 27780 1 bttv compat_ioctl32 1472 1 bttv i2c_algo_bit8424 1 bttv btcx_risc 4776 1 bttv tveeprom 13840 1 bttv i2c_core 19680 6 tuner,bttv,tvaudio,i2c_piix4,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom soundcore 9248 2 btaudio,snd videodev 21120 1 bttv v4l1_compat12036 1 videodev v4l2_common20448 3 tuner,bttv,videodev shpchp 33024 0 pci_hotplug28704 1 shpchp intel_agp 21148 1 agpgart29896 1 intel_agp evdev 9088 0 ext2 59048 1 mbcache 8356 1 ext2 sd_mod 19040 2 8139too25120 0 uhci_hcd 21164 0 8139cp 21920 0 mii 5344 2 8139too,8139cp aic7xxx 150932 1 scsi_transport_spi 22336 1 aic7xxx scsi_mod 124168 3 sd_mod,aic7xxx,scsi_transport_spi usbcore 112644 2 uhci_hcd piix9444 0 [permanent] generic 5476 0 [permanent] ide_core 110504 2 piix,generic thermal13608 0 processor 28840 1 thermal fan 4804 0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
On Aug 18, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C & bash to know that Python does *not* enforce clean coding. I don't think anyone has ever claimed that. What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect? No. But still great.) So is Python with the added benefit of not having to defeat globbing at every step of the way. Is this discussion REALLY still going on? Use whatever you like. As I said in my original reply to the question. LOL! Back and forth, back and forth, a program could have been written in both languages by now to do whatever anyone wanted. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
Ron Johnson wrote: I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C & bash to know that Python does *not* enforce clean coding. I don't think anyone has ever claimed that. What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect? No. But still great.) So is Python with the added benefit of not having to defeat globbing at every step of the way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Poor Xorg performance in Etch
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 06:01:10PM -0400, Marty wrote: > Hello: > > I recently installed Etch on my new system and found X performance to be > sluggish, particularly when using Iceape. It appears as if there is little > or > no hardware acceleration, remeniscent of a K7 with a slow graphics card. > While > scrolling a web page down (but never up), or moving windows the display > sometimes freezes for about one second or more, with up to 100% CPU > utilization. Did you check with top what is using the CPU? > My hardware is a K8M800 chipset motherboard with an Athlon64 X2 5000+ and > Radeon > 7500. I have tested all recent kernels up to and including linux You call that a slow card? > grep enabled /var/log/Xorg.0.log > (==) AIGLX enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Color tiling enabled by default > (**) RADEON(0): Backing store enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration enabled > (II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled > (**) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled > (==) RADEON(0): Silken mouse enabled > (==) RandR enabled Any errors in the log? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba + external drives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 17:59, koffiejunkie wrote: [snip] > > So it would seem the automount stuff is causing this. But why? Because automounting is a bad/Evil Windows idea, and it's taking it's Evil revenge out on us by causing such problems. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx3t5S9HxQb37XmcRAtJ4AKDe6VvpPbivWEVcBHd3I2btFakd8QCg1/4o vGE7rYpMYAhvZpCy2h8IcUw= =YQNl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /sys/power/state question with sudoers!
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:35:05PM -0500, Gnu_Raiz wrote: > cat sudo_file > # /etc/sudoers > # > # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. > # > # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file. > #Defaultsenv_reset > > # Host alias specification > > # User alias specification > > # Cmnd alias specification > > # User privilege specification > > rootALL=(ALL) ALL > > =NOPASSWD: /bin/echo, /sbin/*, /sys/power/state I assume this is your hostname. | | As I understand it, sudo provides access to commands, not files. > Here is the script I am trying to setup. > #!/bin/bash > > #This is a shell script for hibernation. > > sudo echo disk >/sys/power/state It should work like this, but maybe you should try replacing it with '/usr/bin/echo' HTH, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Samba + external drives
koffiejunkie wrote: Right, I just finished doing some tests. Via NFS and FTP, to the external disc, the same thing happens. The copy runs fine (I was copying a 3.9GB ISO) for a random amount of time - shortest now was 300MB, longest was just under 3GB - and then the disc seem to get unplugged. Then, I repeated the tests, with samba, NFS and ftp, copying the same ISO to my home directory on the notebook, and this worked without a problem. I copied the file from the notebook's drive to the external drive - no problem. Then I tried the following. I ftp-ed to localhost, and did a "put file.iso" to the external drive. This worked 100% I did similar tests with nfs and smb, connecting to localhost and copying the file via the smb/nfs clients - al worked fine. I also did at least one failed and one successful each using the notebook's wireless instead of wired network, to rule out network hardware, and repeated all the tests from my second notebook (which runs Debian too). So it's just a mix of network and network copy that seems to cause problems. I hope that's better :-) Any ideas? Some further info. I mentioned this problem to a colleague, and his first thought was that he has had some issues with KDE and Gnome's automount-type daemons. So I booted into a console, didn't log into KDE (although gdm was running), mounted the external disc by hand, and then copied lots of stuff via the network to it. It worked solidly for more than an hour. Then, while I had a DVD ISO copying, I logged into KDE and started writing a DVD (off the external disc). It fialed halfway through with K3B moaning that it couln't read the file. Looked back at the logs, external disc just got unplugged. So it would seem the automount stuff is causing this. But why? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 14:20, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:52:45PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote: >> Thanks for sharing your valuable experience. I've decided to first become >> more familiar with Bash and then I'll give Python a try. If it don't like >> it, I >> can always try something else. But ATM I think Python will be the best >> option. I've seen some code on the net that looks pretty clean and some >> examples that enable me to achieve what I want. > > I think you've hit the nail on the head. While the coding of both bash > and pyhthon _can_ be made clear, bash allows some cryptic short-cuts > that are rather common whereas python enforces clean coding. Also, I Eh. I've written enough cryptic Python and lucid C & bash to know that Python does *not* enforce clean coding. Maybe Ada does, but I doubt it. > find that some of the bash constructs are cryptic by their nature with > no clean work-arounds. They are likely perfectly clear to a proficient > bash coder but the finer points are lost on me. > > In short, I use bash for things like dos .bat files; a sequential list > of commands. Once something requires looping or decisions, I go > straight for python. To complete the sequence, if python is too slow at What a waste. bash is *great* for looping thru lists. (Perfect? No. But still great.) > something, I recode the relevant functions in Fortran. I did that a lot > on my 486 but never on my Athlon64. :) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx3N8S9HxQb37XmcRAsALAKDJ+zR3/7+otHe6p3w62XC+Qa/3rwCfWmsU gaYdAd+LayYcoAZCsJVjM1s= =SiDQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK audio CD burner?
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 09:08:52 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > I run XFCE4, and I look for a GTK tool to > - burn Ogg/VOrbis and MP3 files to Audio CD > - perform basic Data CD burning. > > I know XcdRoast. > But is there any more Xfce integrated tool? brasero works well. A right click on an iso file in thunar gives an option to burn a cd, and it does data and audio as well. It's a good tool. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RBL Lookups using Postfix or Spamassassin
On Saturday 18 August 2007 14:51, Anthony M Simonelli wrote: > I'm using Postfix with Amavisd-new, Spamassassin, etc. I what to use > RBL lookups to stop spam, but I am unsure as to whether to have Postfix > perform the lookup or Spamassassin? I know that if I enable it on > Postfix, those emails will be rejected and possibly legitimate emails as > well, but if I have Spamassassin perform it, my mail server will be > accepting a lot more email which will be more taxing on the server... If your server is heavily loaded then you might want to do RBL lookups in Postfix. However, if you can handle the load then deferring RBL lookups until you run spamassassin out of procmail allows users to override RBL with white lists when needed. We use defer-if-reject/reject-unknown-client, reject-non-fqdn-sender, reject-unlisted-sender, and defer-if-reject/reject-unknown-sender-domain in Postfix which block a lot of the spam, but we don't lookup RBLs until spamassassin runs from procmail. If you only have one user, or otherwise only have one spam policy, then you can run spamassassin out of postfix instead of procmail. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: french accents
On 08/18/2007 02:01 PM, Phill Atwood wrote: This isn't debian specific, but I'm wondering if someone could point me to a good resource for understanding how-to enter french accents into, for example, emails. I know that it is probably got something to do with locales and character sets, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to where to start. My locale is english-canada I believe. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Phill Install the package doc-linux-text and read the file /usr/share/doc/HOWTO/en-txt/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.gz Also read the Debian Reference's section on localization: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tune.en.html#s-l10n or, /usr/share/doc/Debian/reference/reference.en.txt.gz (install debian-reference-en first). I'm using the "us" keyboard layout, but I enabled "dead" keys by using xmodmap to map an unused key to the Compose (or Multi_key) function. Now I press ( ` e) to get è, and I press ( " a) to get ä. Note, I'm using Sarge and XFree86. I wouldn't think that Etch/Xorg would be terribly different. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:14:32PM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 17:06 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:45:43PM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > > > I am running debian unstable with kernel 2.6.5-1-k7 on an AMD Athlon > > > processor. When I try to upgrade the kernel it tells me: > > > > > > penrose:~# apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7 > > > > Your reason for the "-t etch" may prove enlightening. Is this a mixed > > system? Are you in the midst of an upgrade? What are the contents of > > /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/debian_version? > > > > For etch, the release notes say that the preferred package manager is > > aptitude since it handles problems such as this more intellegently. > > > > Doug. > > I am in the midst of an upgrade. It is not a mixed system, the real > reason for using -t etch is that is suggested in the response to the -f > install attempt. Good luck. My upgrade from Sarge to Etch fried libc6 and it was faster to just reinstall to Etch directly than to try to fix it. I did the same thing going from Potato (2.2) to Woody (3.0) although Woody to Sarge (3.1) went OK. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RBL Lookups using Postfix or Spamassassin
I'm using Postfix with Amavisd-new, Spamassassin, etc. I what to use RBL lookups to stop spam, but I am unsure as to whether to have Postfix perform the lookup or Spamassassin? I know that if I enable it on Postfix, those emails will be rejected and possibly legitimate emails as well, but if I have Spamassassin perform it, my mail server will be accepting a lot more email which will be more taxing on the server... Your opinions and insight are greatly appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 23:05 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > But, when I try 'apt-get -f install' I get: > > > > penrose:~# apt-get -f install > > Reading package lists... Done > > Building dependency tree... Done > > Correcting dependencies... Done > > The following extra packages will be installed: > > libc6 > > The following packages will be upgraded: > > libc6 > > 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 862 not upgraded. > > 1 not fully installed or removed. > > Need to get 0B/4405kB of archives. > > After unpacking 184kB disk space will be freed. > > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > > (Reading database ... 233224 files and directories currently installed.) > > Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-5 (using .../libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb) ... > > WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version > > 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it > > before installing glibc. > > > > The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc > > first, this is NOT a bug, and should *NOT* be reported. In that case, > > please add etch sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: > > apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6 > > Then reboot into this new kernel, and proceed with your upgrade > > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb > > (--unpack): > > subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 > > Errors were encountered while processing: > > /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb > > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > > > How does one get out of this cycle? Any help is appreciated. > > You should install a 2.6.18 kernel from etch, after that is done you > can upgrade libc6 and the kernel to break the loop. > > BTW, it is not recommended to keep such a huge backlog of packages if > you are running unstable. Resolving the dependencies for your 863 not > upgraded packages will be hard for apt-get/aptitude. > > Regards, > Sven Thanks Sven. Sorry for my ignorance but is linux-image-2.6.18-4-486 - Linux 2.6.18 image on x86 the correct kernel for my AMD Athlon? Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [solved] Re: can glx work without nvidia driver?
H.S.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said: > Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:09:07 -0400, H.S. wrote: > >> Florian Kulzer wrote: <> > > That worked. Did "sudo aptitude --purge remove nvidia-glx", logged out, > restarted gdm and logged back in and glx worked. It is veeery slow > (understandably) but my OpenGL program runs at least. > > BTW, I get this in Xorg's log file: > $> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)' > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. > (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0) > (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable > > > > If the second error a problem? Is trying to remove it worthwhile? Easy fix. Just add this snippet to the end oc the xorg.conf. Section "ServerFlags" Option "AIGLX" "off" EndSEction Wayne -- Cannot load Windows 95, Incorrect DOS Version. ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But, when I try 'apt-get -f install' I get: > > penrose:~# apt-get -f install > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree... Done > Correcting dependencies... Done > The following extra packages will be installed: > libc6 > The following packages will be upgraded: > libc6 > 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 862 not upgraded. > 1 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0B/4405kB of archives. > After unpacking 184kB disk space will be freed. > Do you want to continue [Y/n]? > (Reading database ... 233224 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-5 (using .../libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb) ... > WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version > 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it > before installing glibc. > > The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc > first, this is NOT a bug, and should *NOT* be reported. In that case, > please add etch sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: > apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6 > Then reboot into this new kernel, and proceed with your upgrade > dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb > (--unpack): > subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > How does one get out of this cycle? Any help is appreciated. You should install a 2.6.18 kernel from etch, after that is done you can upgrade libc6 and the kernel to break the loop. BTW, it is not recommended to keep such a huge backlog of packages if you are running unstable. Resolving the dependencies for your 863 not upgraded packages will be hard for apt-get/aptitude. Regards, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 17:06 -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:45:43PM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > > I am running debian unstable with kernel 2.6.5-1-k7 on an AMD Athlon > > processor. When I try to upgrade the kernel it tells me: > > > > penrose:~# apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7 > > Your reason for the "-t etch" may prove enlightening. Is this a mixed > system? Are you in the midst of an upgrade? What are the contents of > /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/debian_version? > > For etch, the release notes say that the preferred package manager is > aptitude since it handles problems such as this more intellegently. > > Doug. I am in the midst of an upgrade. It is not a mixed system, the real reason for using -t etch is that is suggested in the response to the -f install attempt. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox entry prediction crashes
On 08/18/2007 02:03 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:43:07 +0100, Jamin Davis wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> When I enter URLs or Google search terms in the text boxes near the top >>> of an Iceweasel window, it drops down a menu of guesses as to what I'm >>> going to type next. I could do without its guesses. Especially because >>> >>> Perhaps an option in an configuration file, or in one >>> of firefox's maze of configuration menus? >> Go to about:config - "browser.search.suggest.enabled" is boolean, toggle to >> false to get rid of this behaviour. >> > Did that. When I enter about:config in the URL box it gives me lots > of lines, including > > browser.search.suggest.enabled user set boolean false > > but it still pops up these menus when I enter stuff in the Google search > field or the URL field. > > There must be something else that has to be done. If you're seeing your own /past/ search entries, you can disable remembering form data in Preferences -> Privacy -> History 'Remember what I enter in forms and the search bar' (This is in Firefox 2.0.0.6 from tarball.) Ralph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xquery
There are some links to various java implementation from Wikipedia's xquery page. http://www.gnu.org/software/qexo/ looks interesting Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:27:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 13:08, Hendrik Boom wrote: Is there an xquery implementation for Linux? Or is it time to implement one? Or is someone already doing it? What does Googling for "xquery linux" say? A lot of entries that seem to have only tengential relevance to my wuestion, some discussions about how usefully xquery can be extended for various applications, and how various (proprietary-looking) applications can be extended to do Xquery-like things. Very little information identifying specific implementatinos of Xquery that could be installed and tried out in isolation by someone just gaining familiarity with the concepts. Oh... I did find an optimistic description of a project that was looking forward to the new standards proposals to be released soon in 2002 so that they could implement it. Are they still waiting after five years, or is the project dead? On retrying the query after your reply, I found GCX, which seems to offer significant linguistic restrictions. It seems to have be implemented primarily to accomplish academic research on storage management. This was the most promising lead I found. I was hoping to hear from someone that had some experience with the stuff, who might be able to advise me what actually worked. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: libc6 kernel upgrade problem
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 02:45:43PM -0600, Robert Jerrard wrote: > I am running debian unstable with kernel 2.6.5-1-k7 on an AMD Athlon > processor. When I try to upgrade the kernel it tells me: > > penrose:~# apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7 Your reason for the "-t etch" may prove enlightening. Is this a mixed system? Are you in the midst of an upgrade? What are the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/debian_version? For etch, the release notes say that the preferred package manager is aptitude since it handles problems such as this more intellegently. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is grub installed?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 04:38:33PM -0400, P Kapat wrote: > Suppose my hard disks are setup as: > > IDE (Master) > /dev/hda1 -- ext3 -- 10 GB > /dev/hda2 -- ext3 -- 100 GB > /dev/hda3 -- ext3 -- 50 GB > > SATA (connected to SATA 1 controller on the mobo) > /dev/sda1 -- ext3 -- 50GB -- / > /dev/sda2 -- ext3 -- 500 MB -- /boot > /dev/sda3 -- ext3 -- 100 GB -- /home > > So, the GRUB oncfig files are in /dev/sda2 (/boot/grub). I am assuming > that grub is installed in /dev/sda2. So, where is the MBR? Is it on > the first track of the first partition of the first hard disk, ie > /dev/hda1? It is wherever you told grub to put it. On debian, it should go on the MBR of the drive, which in your example would be the MBR of /dev/hda. The MBR is the first block of the drive (first 512 B) with the partition table in the subsequent block somewhere (check wikipedia). This means that you can reformat /dev/hda1 to your heart's content. > > If so, suppose I format /dev/hda1 will the MBR be gone implying that I > cannot reboot m y system? > > What is the safest way to partition the disks so that, if sometime > later I install someother OS (Solaris/FreeBSD/Anyother GNU/Linux but > not Windows) the MBR is not disturbed and I can use it to boot into > the existing Debian. There's the rub. It seems that all OSs by default figure that they are the only OS and put their boot loader in the MBR of the first hard drive. However, every OS that you may want to install should include documentation on dual-booting. One of your considerations is whether or not Grub can boot that OS. I think (check the docs) that as long as Grub will boot it, you leave grub in the MBR and put the OS's loader on the actual partition, then set up grub to chain-load. The bios will boot Grub, then Grub will boot the OS's loader which will in turn boot the OS. My new Athlon64 Asus bios has an F8 boot menu. It presents a list of drives to attempt to boot. If I had multiple OSs with multiple drives, I'd install each OS on its own drive with its loader in the drive's MBR, then use the bios boot menu to choose which drive to boot. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xquery
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:27:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/18/07 13:08, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> Is there an xquery implementation for Linux? Or is it time to implement >> one? Or is someone already doing it? > > What does Googling for "xquery linux" say? > A lot of entries that seem to have only tengential relevance to my wuestion, some discussions about how usefully xquery can be extended for various applications, and how various (proprietary-looking) applications can be extended to do Xquery-like things. Very little information identifying specific implementatinos of Xquery that could be installed and tried out in isolation by someone just gaining familiarity with the concepts. Oh... I did find an optimistic description of a project that was looking forward to the new standards proposals to be released soon in 2002 so that they could implement it. Are they still waiting after five years, or is the project dead? On retrying the query after your reply, I found GCX, which seems to offer significant linguistic restrictions. It seems to have be implemented primarily to accomplish academic research on storage management. This was the most promising lead I found. I was hoping to hear from someone that had some experience with the stuff, who might be able to advise me what actually worked. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /sys/power/state question with sudoers!
cat sudo_file # /etc/sudoers # # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root. # # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file. #Defaultsenv_reset # Host alias specification # User alias specification # Cmnd alias specification # User privilege specification rootALL=(ALL) ALL =NOPASSWD: /bin/echo, /sbin/*, /sys/power/state note is used to protect the user. - Here is the script I am trying to setup. #!/bin/bash #This is a shell script for hibernation. sudo echo disk >/sys/power/state Gnu_Raiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libc6 kernel upgrade problem
I am running debian unstable with kernel 2.6.5-1-k7 on an AMD Athlon processor. When I try to upgrade the kernel it tells me: penrose:~# apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-2.6.22-1-k7: Depends: initramfs-tools (>= 0.55) but it is not going to be installed or yaird (>= 0.0.12-8) but it is not going to be installed or linux-initramfs-tool locales: Depends: glibc-2.6-1 E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). But, when I try 'apt-get -f install' I get: penrose:~# apt-get -f install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libc6 The following packages will be upgraded: libc6 1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 862 not upgraded. 1 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0B/4405kB of archives. After unpacking 184kB disk space will be freed. Do you want to continue [Y/n]? (Reading database ... 233224 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to replace libc6 2.5-5 (using .../libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb) ... WARNING: POSIX threads library NPTL requires kernel version 2.6.8 or later. If you use a kernel 2.4, please upgrade it before installing glibc. The installation of a 2.6 kernel _could_ ask you to install a new libc first, this is NOT a bug, and should *NOT* be reported. In that case, please add etch sources to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run: apt-get install -t etch linux-image-2.6 Then reboot into this new kernel, and proceed with your upgrade dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.6.1-1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) How does one get out of this cycle? Any help is appreciated. cat /proc/cpuinfo gives: processor : 0 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 6 model : 4 model name : AMD Athlon(tm) Processor stepping : 2 cpu MHz : 1008.980 cache size : 256 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 1 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow bogomips : 1998.84 Bob Jerrard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
where is grub installed?
Hi, Suppose my hard disks are setup as: IDE (Master) /dev/hda1 -- ext3 -- 10 GB /dev/hda2 -- ext3 -- 100 GB /dev/hda3 -- ext3 -- 50 GB SATA (connected to SATA 1 controller on the mobo) /dev/sda1 -- ext3 -- 50GB -- / /dev/sda2 -- ext3 -- 500 MB -- /boot /dev/sda3 -- ext3 -- 100 GB -- /home So, the GRUB oncfig files are in /dev/sda2 (/boot/grub). I am assuming that grub is installed in /dev/sda2. So, where is the MBR? Is it on the first track of the first partition of the first hard disk, ie /dev/hda1? If so, suppose I format /dev/hda1 will the MBR be gone implying that I cannot reboot m y system? What is the safest way to partition the disks so that, if sometime later I install someother OS (Solaris/FreeBSD/Anyother GNU/Linux but not Windows) the MBR is not disturbed and I can use it to boot into the existing Debian. -- Regards PK -- http://counter.li.org #402424 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
clamscan error
clamscan encountered a libclamav error message is not in uuencoded format. Interestingly, there's no email on this machine for it to be scanning. Clamscan script that generated this error follows. cut here. #!/bin/bash # file: cs - clamscan script clamscan -l clamscan`date -I`.log -r --bell --exclude=/dev --exclude=/proc --exclude=/pts --exclude=/tmp -i --detect-broken --block-encrypted --block-max --max-files=500 --max-space=10M --max-recursion=8 --max-ratio=250 --max-mail-recursion=8 --max-dir-recursion=15 --deb=/usr/bin/dpkg-deb / * cut here. Am I missing a dependency for clamav which causes this kind of error or is something else oing on? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: french accents
On Saturday 18 August 2007 21:01, Phill Atwood wrote: > This isn't debian specific, but I'm wondering if someone could point me > to a good resource for understanding how-to enter french accents into, > for example, emails. I know that it is probably got something to do > with locales and character sets, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to where > to start. My locale is english-canada I believe. Any help is > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Phill I'm from the UK, and am using my qwerty keyboards. I use KDE, and the canadian keyboard layout works well for the French accents. To set up the canadian keyboard in KDE, go to: Control centre->Regional & Accessability->Keyboard Layout. Click on enable keyboard layouts, and select the ca one. Click on the add button, save,and it should be available on the panel. You can toggle between your normal keyboard, and the ca one. The main accented keys are on the right of the keyboard. é is left of right shift. One row above, and lower left to the enter key are à. and è. next row up, and again left to the enter key you find ç. One key left and you have a dead key ^. press once on this , and then the vowel key, and you have ê pour instance. sorry, but if you're using Gnome I've no idea how the keyboard layouts work. Nigel.
Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:52:45PM +0200, Manon Metten wrote: > > Thanks for sharing your valuable experience. I've decided to first become > more familiar with Bash and then I'll give Python a try. If it don't like > it, I > can always try something else. But ATM I think Python will be the best > option. I've seen some code on the net that looks pretty clean and some > examples that enable me to achieve what I want. I think you've hit the nail on the head. While the coding of both bash and pyhthon _can_ be made clear, bash allows some cryptic short-cuts that are rather common whereas python enforces clean coding. Also, I find that some of the bash constructs are cryptic by their nature with no clean work-arounds. They are likely perfectly clear to a proficient bash coder but the finer points are lost on me. In short, I use bash for things like dos .bat files; a sequential list of commands. Once something requires looping or decisions, I go straight for python. To complete the sequence, if python is too slow at something, I recode the relevant functions in Fortran. I did that a lot on my 486 but never on my Athlon64. :) Doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xquery
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/18/07 13:08, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Is there an xquery implementation for Linux? Or is it time to implement > one? Or is someone already doing it? What does Googling for "xquery linux" say? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGx0gWS9HxQb37XmcRAjbzAJ0XHx+piohBldxt6+0IQtWDEbf2LQCgnkxA uStb5R55r6t+M+1NX2/3las= =TrCP -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
french accents
This isn't debian specific, but I'm wondering if someone could point me to a good resource for understanding how-to enter french accents into, for example, emails. I know that it is probably got something to do with locales and character sets, but I'm at a bit of a loss as to where to start. My locale is english-canada I believe. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Phill -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[solved] Re: can glx work without nvidia driver?
Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:09:07 -0400, H.S. wrote:
>> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>>
So, the questions is, how do I get my little program to work without
installing Nvidia driver?
>>> I would try to uncomment the 'Load "glx"' line in your xorg.conf. You
>>> probably commented out that line because the proprietary nvidia driver
>>> requires you to do so, but AFAIK the "nv" driver does need the normal
>>> Xorg glx module if you want to use the GLX extension.
>>>
>> Okay. I just tried that and from the Xorg log file I see that it being
>> loaded okay, but it is not being initialized:
>> $> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'
>> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
>> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
>> found)
>>
>>
>> I am using 2.6.21 Debian kernel and
>> $> dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii | gawk '{print $1 " " $2 "\t" $3}'
>> ii nvidia-glx 1.0.8776-4
>> ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.17-2-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.17-9
>> ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-3-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.18-7
>> ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1
>> ii nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.8776-4
>>
>> What do I try next?
>
> I think the above error message means that your X is presently still
> loading nvidia's glx module (which only works with nvidia's driver). The
> nvidia-glx package overwrites the original Xorg glx module and uses
> dpkg-divert to make sure that nvidia's glx module stays in place.
> Purging the nvidia-glx package should give you the original Xorg glx
> module back. Make sure you use "purge" and not just "remove" because
> otherwise an initscript stays on your system which could cause trouble.
> (I think this issue is fixed now, but it cannot hurt to be on the safe
> side.)
>
That worked. Did "sudo aptitude --purge remove nvidia-glx", logged out,
restarted gdm and logged back in and glx worked. It is veeery slow
(understandably) but my OpenGL program runs at least.
BTW, I get this in Xorg's log file:
$> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable
If the second error a problem? Is trying to remove it worthwhile?
Thanks,
->HS
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Re: bash vs. python scripts - which one is better?
Hi Steve, Thanks for sharing your valuable experience. I've decided to first become more familiar with Bash and then I'll give Python a try. If it don't like it, I can always try something else. But ATM I think Python will be the best option. I've seen some code on the net that looks pretty clean and some examples that enable me to achieve what I want. Manon.
Re: Wget don't resolv hostnames?
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:22:42 -0400 Orestes leal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Folks, I ran wget in my system but when i try to get one file > for example > > > wget --server-response http://www.server.com/fichero.xml > --14:15:06-- http://www.server.com/fichero.xml >=> `fichero.xml' > Resolving www.server.com... " > > > ""And stays there with this message. > Resolving www.server.com... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution."" > > Where server.com it's a fake url in this case of course, > I'm behind several subnets so my configuration it's these: > > > I have a router, 1 dns server, 1 proxy that resolves all requests > from the users, so my question is: > > What kind of configuration I must make? > > > > NOTE: my /etc/resolv.conf actually holds my dns server and the graphical > browsers works good, so any help? > > -olr > > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Solved Boys thanks !! -olr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wget don't resolv hostnames?
Hi Folks, I ran wget in my system but when i try to get one file for example wget --server-response http://www.server.com/fichero.xml --14:15:06-- http://www.server.com/fichero.xml => `fichero.xml' Resolving www.server.com... " ""And stays there with this message. Resolving www.server.com... failed: Temporary failure in name resolution."" Where server.com it's a fake url in this case of course, I'm behind several subnets so my configuration it's these: I have a router, 1 dns server, 1 proxy that resolves all requests from the users, so my question is: What kind of configuration I must make? NOTE: my /etc/resolv.conf actually holds my dns server and the graphical browsers works good, so any help? -olr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xquery
Is there an xquery implementation for Linux? Or is it time to implement one? Or is someone already doing it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox entry prediction crashes
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 22:43:07 +0100, Jamin Davis wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> When I enter URLs or Google search terms in the text boxes near the top >> of an Iceweasel window, it drops down a menu of guesses as to what I'm >> going to type next. I could do without its guesses. Especially because >> >> Perhaps an option in an configuration file, or in one >> of firefox's maze of configuration menus? > > Go to about:config - "browser.search.suggest.enabled" is boolean, toggle to > false to get rid of this behaviour. > Did that. When I enter about:config in the URL box it gives me lots of lines, including browser.search.suggest.enabled user set boolean false but it still pops up these menus when I enter stuff in the Google search field or the URL field. There must be something else that has to be done. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using apt to upgrade from etch r0 ro r1...
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 04:55:58PM +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > Dear Debianists, > > My apt sources.list file is as follows: > > localhost:/home/mikef# more /etc/apt/sources.list > # [snip slew of CDs and DVDs] > deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main > > > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > # deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib You should uncomment this line so that you get security updates. > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib > > deb http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian etch main > > Can I add: > > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ That would be ftp.uk.debian.org/debian etch main > > to the file and then do e.g. apt-get dist-upgrade in order to download the > r1 modifications to the amd64 Etch 4.0 r0 I am currently using? Yes, but doesn't the dipconsultants repository do that? Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: using apt to upgrade from etch r0 ro r1...
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 16:55 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: > My apt sources.list file is as follows: > [...] > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > # deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib Hello. You should have the above deb* lines uncommented to get timely security updates - unless you have a good reason not to use them... > deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ > > to the file and then do e.g. apt-get dist-upgrade in order to download the > r1 modifications to the amd64 Etch 4.0 r0 I am currently using? Below is the full line that should be enough: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib 'contrib' is optional, if you use any packages from the contrib section. Good luck! -- Krzysztof Lubanski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man for linux programmer's Manual
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi, > > When I used RH 9.1 before, I can call man to display linux > programmer's C / C++ manual. But, I am not be able to do it in my new > installation of Debian 4.0. How can I install it? It's in manpages-dev, manpages-posix and manpages-posix-dev -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
using apt to upgrade from etch r0 ro r1...
Dear Debianists, My apt sources.list file is as follows: localhost:/home/mikef# more /etc/apt/sources.list # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 (20061110)]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-3 20070407-12:15]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-2 20070407-12:15]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070407-12:15]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Beta amd64 DVD Binary-3 20070317-22:49]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Beta amd64 DVD Binary-2 20070317-22:49]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Beta amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070317-22:49]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-3 (20061110)]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-2 (20061110)]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 (20061110)]/ etch contrib main deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: # deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: # deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib deb http://www.dipconsultants.com/debian etch main localhost:/home/mikef# Can I add: deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/ to the file and then do e.g. apt-get dist-upgrade in order to download the r1 modifications to the amd64 Etch 4.0 r0 I am currently using? Do I need a bit more than this to do it? Regards Michael Fothergill _ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK audio CD burner?
El Sat, 18 Aug 2007 10:22:35 +0200 "Mihamina \(R12y\) Rakotomandimby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Hi, > I run XFCE4, and I look for a GTK tool to > - burn Ogg/VOrbis and MP3 files to Audio CD > - perform basic Data CD burning. > > I know XcdRoast. > But is there any more Xfce integrated tool? > > Brasero -- Sebastián signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: can glx work without nvidia driver?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 11:09:07 -0400, H.S. wrote:
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> >
> >> So, the questions is, how do I get my little program to work without
> >> installing Nvidia driver?
> >
> > I would try to uncomment the 'Load "glx"' line in your xorg.conf. You
> > probably commented out that line because the proprietary nvidia driver
> > requires you to do so, but AFAIK the "nv" driver does need the normal
> > Xorg glx module if you want to use the GLX extension.
> >
>
> Okay. I just tried that and from the Xorg log file I see that it being
> loaded okay, but it is not being initialized:
> $> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'
> (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> (EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
> found)
>
>
> I am using 2.6.21 Debian kernel and
> $> dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii | gawk '{print $1 " " $2 "\t" $3}'
> ii nvidia-glx 1.0.8776-4
> ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.17-2-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.17-9
> ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-3-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.18-7
> ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1
> ii nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.8776-4
>
> What do I try next?
I think the above error message means that your X is presently still
loading nvidia's glx module (which only works with nvidia's driver). The
nvidia-glx package overwrites the original Xorg glx module and uses
dpkg-divert to make sure that nvidia's glx module stays in place.
Purging the nvidia-glx package should give you the original Xorg glx
module back. Make sure you use "purge" and not just "remove" because
otherwise an initscript stays on your system which could cause trouble.
(I think this issue is fixed now, but it cannot hurt to be on the safe
side.)
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Re: live Debian on USB stick
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:56:36 -0400, Mark Grieveson wrote: > On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:33:04 + (UTC) > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hello, >> I installed knoppix on my USB stick and it runs fine but it's too big >> ~ 600 Mb. There are too many packages. >> Is there a Debian dist, not as big as knoppix, that I can put on my >> USB sti= ck ? > > Damn Small Linux (DSL) is Debian based, and much smaller. Yep, second to that. DSL has saved my day when I need a Linux Live system. However, it also has it drawbacks. Check the details at http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/live/dsl/ Also on the site you can find my recommended Linux Live system -- the true Live-CD pioneer with unparalleled leading technology and vision. You might not agree with what I've picked, but you can also check Various Debian (Live) CD Systems http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/live/debian-cd/ Believe me, searching for the perfect Linux Live system has been my "life long" journey. Before Knoppix even exist, I custom built RedHat, shrinking its installation disks from 3 to 1, and only contains my picked packages list, RedHat Distro Customization http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/distro/redhat/ Its installation does not require human intervention. So whenever I need a Linux system, I was able to have a system ready within 10~15 minutes, which contains the very tools that I want. This is the most important thing to me. Some other Debian Live Systems, eg, grml, can be installed on HD within 6~8 minutes or so, but how long will it take to further tune the installed System to your taste? -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Udev after 0.105-4 sucks
Udev after 0.105-4 seams to suck when it comes to cameras. I could not mount my Nikon D80 after upgrading. (But I can mount my MP3-player.) Therefor I hold Udev 0.105-4 until I found a solution somethere. If you run Udev after 0.105-4: Downgrade! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using deborphan
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:45:01 -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:23:12AM +1000, Wei Wang wrote: >> I recommend you always use Aptitude as your primary package manager. >> It automatically delete orphaned packages. Yep, second to that, aptitude alone can do the job quite well. No need the deborphan. For details check out: aptitude advantages http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/nix/distro/debian/deb10-AptitudeRelated/index.html#_aptitude_advantages > What if I'm still using that program? I don't *want* it deleted. Just > because it's not being maintained is no reason to delete it. So long as > it still runs and is useful it should *not* be deleted. Aha, there are actually two kind of "orphaned packages" here, I guess the name deborphan and its explanation should be blamed for the confusion. In fact, No, aptitude will never delete unmaintained packages. It is not a criteria at all. The correct saying is that "automatically installed packages will be uninstalled as soon as they are no longer needed..." HTH -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /sys/power/state question with sudoers!
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 09:22:00AM -0500, Gnu_Raiz wrote: > I am writing a shell script that requires sudo so I can hibernate my > machine, as package hibernate has a bug that disallows its useage. When > I go to change the permissions using visido to allow no password, and > access to the /sys/power/state file I still get no permission errors. I > even have set /sys/power/* to allow the user that whole directory. This > will be in shell script, so I have the NOPASSWD option set on > the /etc/sudoers line. Anyone have an idea to get this working, or is > this a bug in the sudo package? > > I want to use hibernate without having to type the root password > everytime. It would be nice to post your sudoers file ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: can glx work without nvidia driver?
Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
>> So, the questions is, how do I get my little program to work without
>> installing Nvidia driver?
>
> I would try to uncomment the 'Load "glx"' line in your xorg.conf. You
> probably commented out that line because the proprietary nvidia driver
> requires you to do so, but AFAIK the "nv" driver does need the normal
> Xorg glx module if you want to use the GLX extension.
>
Okay. I just tried that and from the Xorg log file I see that it being
loaded okay, but it is not being initialized:
$> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep '(EE)'
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(EE) Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not
found)
I am using 2.6.21 Debian kernel and
$> dpkg -l *nvidia* | grep ^ii | gawk '{print $1 " " $2 "\t" $3}'
ii nvidia-glx 1.0.8776-4
ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.17-2-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.17-9
ii nvidia-kernel-2.6.18-3-486 1.0.8776-4+2.6.18-7
ii nvidia-kernel-common 20051028+1
ii nvidia-kernel-source 1.0.8776-4
What do I try next?
thanks,
->HS
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Re: source code installation
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 20:42:03 +1000, webmail DOT hce AT gmail DOT com wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: >> Your apt knows only of one source for packages, and that is the CD1. You >> need to add additional sources. > > I've only got one CD, will try to download second. I checked it now, you indeed need the second CD for openoffice.org: http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=&l=http%3A%2F%2Fcdimage.debian.org%2Fcdimage%2Frelease%2F4.0_r0%2Fi386%2Fjigdo-cd%2Fdebian-40r0-i386-CD-2.jigdo You can do your own searches here, for example to find your kernel headers: http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search The kernel headers package will be called "linux-headers-XXX" where "XXX" corresponds to the output of "uname -r" for your running kernel. You can also download individual .deb files from every Debian mirror, e.g. the kernel headers from the US mirror: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ However, for something like openoffice.org (which consists of many interdependent packages) it is probably better to get the relevant CD, scan it with "apt-cdrom" and let aptitude or apt-get take care of the dependencies for you. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/sys/power/state question with sudoers!
I am writing a shell script that requires sudo so I can hibernate my machine, as package hibernate has a bug that disallows its useage. When I go to change the permissions using visido to allow no password, and access to the /sys/power/state file I still get no permission errors. I even have set /sys/power/* to allow the user that whole directory. This will be in shell script, so I have the NOPASSWD option set on the /etc/sudoers line. Anyone have an idea to get this working, or is this a bug in the sudo package? I want to use hibernate without having to type the root password everytime. Gnu_Raiz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
djmount and upnp write?
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Re: Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5
On Saturday 18 August 2007 01:51, Hal Vaughan wrote: > I have a RAID5 on 3 drives with a spare. One drive failed and it > rebuilt itself using the spare, then, before I could replace the spare, > a 2nd drive failed. I shut it down, got some new drives (bigger to be > sure they weren't too small, allowing for differences in drive sizes > reported by drive makers), replaced the bad drives, and rebuilt the > spare with no problem at all. Last night there were thunderstorms all > night and the computer lost power a few times (yes, normally it's > plugged in to a UPS, that's a long story that doesn't effect anything > here). (big snip) > I notice the information changes from drive to drive and is > inconsistent. > > Mdadm is not telling me which drives are bad when it assembles the array > and I want to verify what is going on. I'd like to get more info to > see if mdadm "officially" sees drives e and f as bad or just drive e, > or none at all (since reports vary according to the drive). > > I would have thought, after the first issue with any drive, that the > system would not have had the others in use, since, when booting, it > would have waited for me to hit "Control-D to continue," so I doubt > that there are actually two bad drives. > > Any ideas how I can get more information, find out why mdadm is not > rebuilding the RAID or to get it to rebuild it? It seems to think the > drives are all okay when it's adding them and doesn't report any issues > with any drives until it's done, then it says there aren't enough > drives to start the RAID. 1) I don't see that any of your drives are "bad". However they are so inconsistent that data recovery is unlikely. 2) If you just need to assemble the array and are not worried about recovering the data, I would suggest zeroing each drive's superblock using mdadm and then creating a new array. 3) RAID 5 is not resilient against multiple failures. We now use RAID 1. RAID 1 is also faster, although it sometimes requires more drives. In extreme cases we use RAID 1 with three or more drives. 4) With four drives, rather than RAID 5 with a hot spare, I would create two RAID 1 arrays. One could then combine them in RAID 0 or linear but I would choose to make them be PVMs in a LVM VG. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GTK audio CD burner?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:22:35AM +0200, Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi, > I run XFCE4, and I look for a GTK tool to > - burn Ogg/VOrbis and MP3 files to Audio CD > - perform basic Data CD burning. > > I know XcdRoast. > But is there any more Xfce integrated tool? Although I don' like or use KDE, I do like some of the apps. For burning CDs I use K3B. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove packages in no listed apt repository
On Fri, 17 Aug 2007 23:21:07 +0300 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 08:20:16PM +0200, Willi Mann wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Is there a way to get a list of packages which are installed but not > > available in any repository listed in sources.list? > > > > I ask because I've written such a script [1], but whether it's > > worth to put it into debian depends on if there's already a way to > > do this. > > AFAIK aptitude will list such packages in the "Obsolete and locally > created packages" section (not sure about the exact title, I stopped > using those sections a while ago). > > Regards, > Andrei It's "Installed (local or obsolete)" in Synaptic. -- Szia: Nyizsa. -- Free pop3 email with a spam filter. http://www.bluebottle.com/tag/5 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Needs help with Sidux install
- Original Message From: Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 8:37:14 PM Subject: Re: Needs help with Sidux install > > Hello, > > I have a unique problem involving sidux. I already tried to get help from > sidux users from thier forum but no one could help me. This is why I am > trying my chances here. > The problem: When I run the live cd it takes about 3 to 4 minutes to > output a long text on the screen and after it hangs. The cd is ok because > i've tested it on other machines. This is the output; > > ata1.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen > ata1.01: cmd c8/00:08:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/f0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 4096 > in > > This repeats at least 10 times, then I get > > failed to detect live media > > then > > Busybox v1.1.3.. and lots of other text > > then > > bin/sh: cannot access tty; > job cotrol turned off > > then > > (initramfs) > > and hangs. > > My computer is ok because I can run ubuntu, etch, fedora sabayon without > any problem. Only sidux that fails. I hope some can help me solving this > annoying problem. I am just a regular user. > > Thanks a lot, > jmak Two suggestions (guesses, really): Try other boot options, like fail-safe. I have several machines running Sidux and they act differently to the live CD. Still no joy? Download Sidux again and burn another CD - at low speed. A not-quite-right copy may work ok one one machine, but not on another. At present, I have Sidux installed on five machines. Works great! Thanks for the reply, I burned a cd again, but still the same problem. The other boot options also didn't help. I don't even understand what the error messages mean. jmak -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com
(solved)Re: which program in sarge can zip files
You are right. I read the manual, didn't find the option. Now I look again, zip has the option. Thanks! Mumia W.. wrote: On 08/18/2007 02:35 PM, qipaishi wrote: zip can, but user can't decide whether to store or to deflate files. Which program can let user decide to store files (not deflate)? The "-0" option to zip allows for simple storage. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man for linux programmer's Manual
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:48:47PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > When I used RH 9.1 before, I can call man to display linux programmer's > C / C++ manual. But, I am not be able to do it in my new installation of > Debian 4.0. How can I install it? > > Thank you. > > Jim Many of the development related pacakge have -dev suffixes. I think you want 'apt-get install manpages-dev'. HTH, K -- | .''`. == Debian GNU/Linux == | my web site: | | : :' : The Universal |mysite.verizon.net/kevin.mark/| | `. `' Operating System| go to counter.li.org and | | `-http://www.debian.org/ |be counted! #238656 | | my keyserver: subkeys.pgp.net | my NPO: cfsg.org | |join the new debian-community.org to help Debian! | |___ Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___| -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: man for linux programmer's Manual
On Sat, 2007-08-18 at 20:48 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > When I used RH 9.1 before, I can call man to display linux programmer's > C / C++ manual. But, I am not be able to do it in my new installation of > Debian 4.0. How can I install it? I think there's a separate package with those in it. Try: apt-get install manpages-dev HTH Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source code installation
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 08:42:03PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I don't have a network connection, a win modem is the only one I have and I > am currently working to try compile the win modem source code. I'll have to > install kernel header files to do it. But first, I have to learn how to > install packages in Debian. Good luck with that. If you have problems start a new thread here. >> P.S. Is there a reason for using apt-get? aptitude is the recommended >> frontend and also has a nice text interface if you start it without >> options. > > I am new to Debian :-), just follow instructions from people who helped me > through the package installation. If you could give me aptitude commands > for package installation, I'll try it. The basic command-line commands are the same/similar as apt-get: Command Interactive Explanation linemode === update u (small) update package list upgrade (none) upgrade packages (do not remove or add new packages) dist-upgradeU (capital U) upgrade packages (remove or add if necessary) install + install package(s) remove - remove package(s) without config files purge _ (underscore) remove package(s) including config files g (first) (go) show scheduled actions (+,-,U, ...) g (second) perform actions Ctrl-t/F10 open menu HTH, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
man for linux programmer's Manual
Hi, When I used RH 9.1 before, I can call man to display linux programmer's C / C++ manual. But, I am not be able to do it in my new installation of Debian 4.0. How can I install it? Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: emacs23 and site-start.d
On August 18, 2007 at 6:11PM +0800, silent2600 (at gmail.com) wrote: > I am using ubuntu7.04, and I just installed emacs-unicode2 from cvs, > > and the "old" configs in /etc/emacs, (50dictionaries-common.el > 50happycoders-emacs.el 50psvn.el) not work any more. > > how can I load everything under /etc/emacs/site-start.d and /etc/emacs/ ? To track the emacs-unicode-2 branch of Emacs, I use modified emacs-snapshot package. The emacs-snapshot source package is downloadable from http://emacs.orebokech.com/ debian/patches/* seems that lisp/startup.el is patched to use Debian's /etc/emacs/site-start.d and /etc//site-start.d. Thanks, -- Tatsuya Kinoshita -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source code installation
Andrei Popescu wrote: Your apt knows only of one source for packages, and that is the CD1. You need to add additional sources. I've only got one CD, will try to download second. If you already have more than the first CD then you could add it with apt-cdrom (see 'man apt-cdrom' for more details). Otherwise, if your internet connection is working under Debian, you should uncomment (remove the # in front of) the line starting with 'deb' and also add something like: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib Replace 'us' with your country code if necessary or check the mirror list for a mirror close to you (http://www.debian.org/mirror/list) After that run 'apt-get update' and try installing openoffice again. I don't have a network connection, a win modem is the only one I have and I am currently working to try compile the win modem source code. I'll have to install kernel header files to do it. But first, I have to learn how to install packages in Debian. P.S. Is there a reason for using apt-get? aptitude is the recommended frontend and also has a nice text interface if you start it without options. I am new to Debian :-), just follow instructions from people who helped me through the package installation. If you could give me aptitude commands for package installation, I'll try it. Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: which program in sarge can zip files
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 03:35:13PM -0400, qipaishi wrote: > zip can, but user can't decide whether to store or to deflate files. > > Which program can let user decide to store files (not deflate)? The traditional *nix tool for storing files is tar. Combine with gzip or bzip2 if you also need compression. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: source code installation
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 07:15:42PM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Florian Kulzer wrote: >> [ Your "top-posting" style of replying makes it harder for other people >> to join the discussion since they have to do quite some scrolling up >> and down to understand the context, especially if a certain topic has >> already received many messages. The recommended approach on this >> list is to put answers into the old text at the appropriate place >> while trimming the old text where possible. Ideally, every message >> should be a short "story" with all the relevant context in >> chronological order. ] > > Sorry, I am new to Debian. Hope this is right. Perfect :) > Please see the following sources.list: > > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 > 20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main > > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 > 20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main > > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > #deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib > # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: > #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib Your apt knows only of one source for packages, and that is the CD1. You need to add additional sources. If you already have more than the first CD then you could add it with apt-cdrom (see 'man apt-cdrom' for more details). Otherwise, if your internet connection is working under Debian, you should uncomment (remove the # in front of) the line starting with 'deb' and also add something like: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib Replace 'us' with your country code if necessary or check the mirror list for a mirror close to you (http://www.debian.org/mirror/list) After that run 'apt-get update' and try installing openoffice again. Regards, Andrei P.S. Is there a reason for using apt-get? aptitude is the recommended frontend and also has a nice text interface if you start it without options. -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
emacs23 and site-start.d
hi, I am using ubuntu7.04, and I just installed emacs-unicode2 from cvs, and the "old" configs in /etc/emacs, (50dictionaries-common.el 50happycoders-emacs.el 50psvn.el) not work any more. how can I load everything under /etc/emacs/site-start.d and /etc/emacs/ ? thanks!
Re: which program in sarge can zip files
On 08/18/2007 02:35 PM, qipaishi wrote: zip can, but user can't decide whether to store or to deflate files. Which program can let user decide to store files (not deflate)? The "-0" option to zip allows for simple storage. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: source code installation
Florian Kulzer wrote: [ Your "top-posting" style of replying makes it harder for other people to join the discussion since they have to do quite some scrolling up and down to understand the context, especially if a certain topic has already received many messages. The recommended approach on this list is to put answers into the old text at the appropriate place while trimming the old text where possible. Ideally, every message should be a short "story" with all the relevant context in chronological order. ] Sorry, I am new to Debian. Hope this is right. More openoffice.org-* packages should be available. Which CD is this, the first CD of the standard Etch 21 CD set? Yes, I only scanned first CD. "apt-get install openoffice.org" should have worked. I think we need to have a quick look at your apt configuration. Please post the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list from your system. Please see the following sources.list: # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify: #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib Thank you. Jim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mdadm won't rebuild a RAID5
I have a RAID5 on 3 drives with a spare. One drive failed and it rebuilt itself using the spare, then, before I could replace the spare, a 2nd drive failed. I shut it down, got some new drives (bigger to be sure they weren't too small, allowing for differences in drive sizes reported by drive makers), replaced the bad drives, and rebuilt the spare with no problem at all. Last night there were thunderstorms all night and the computer lost power a few times (yes, normally it's plugged in to a UPS, that's a long story that doesn't effect anything here). The RAID is on /dev/hde, f, g, and h, with h as the spare. On reboot, the drive was not being reassembled. I tried this: mdadm --assemble --verbose /dev/md0 /dev/hde /dev/hdf /dev/hdg and I got this: mdadm: looking for devices for /dev/md0 mdadm: /dev/hde is identified as a member of /dev/md0, slot 0. mdadm: /dev/hdf is identified as a member of /dev/md0, slot 1. mdadm: /dev/hdg is identified as a member of /dev/md0, slot 2. mdadm: added /dev/hde to /dev/md0 as 0 mdadm: added /dev/hdf to /dev/md0 as 1 mdadm: added /dev/hdg to /dev/md0 as 2 mdadm: /dev/md0 assembled from 1 drive - not enough to start the array. I stopped the array and reran the above command with "--run" added to it. Then I ran: mdadm --detail /dev/md0 and got this: /dev/md0: Version : 00.90.01 Creation Time : Sat Feb 25 07:10:01 2006 Raid Level : raid5 Device Size : 244198464 (232.89 GiB 250.06 GB) Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 1 Preferred Minor : 0 Persistence : Superblock is persistent Update Time : Mon Aug 13 06:00:34 2007 State : active, degraded Active Devices : 1 Working Devices : 1 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K UUID : 0dcc0b91:f92304ba:e66cf827:43274a37 Events : 0.3700484 Number Major Minor RaidDevice State 0 00- removed 1 00- removed 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg I've tried this at different times and gotten different drives. I've also dried: mdadm --detail /dev/hde and I get: /dev/hde: Magic : a92b4efc Version : 00.90.00 UUID : 0dcc0b91:f92304ba:e66cf827:43274a37 Creation Time : Sat Feb 25 07:10:01 2006 Raid Level : raid5 Raid Devices : 3 Total Devices : 3 Preferred Minor : 0 Update Time : Wed Aug 8 05:04:55 2007 State : active Active Devices : 3 Working Devices : 3 Failed Devices : 0 Spare Devices : 0 Checksum : 732dc269 - correct Events : 0.3547873 Layout : left-symmetric Chunk Size : 64K Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 0 3300 active sync /dev/hde 0 0 3300 active sync /dev/hde 1 1 33 641 active sync /dev/hdf 2 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg The major differences come up when I run the same command to examine hdf, g, and h. With f and g, on the last part, I get this with hdf: Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 1 33 641 active sync /dev/hdf 0 0 000 removed 1 1 33 641 active sync /dev/hdf 2 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg Then with hdg, I get: Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg 0 0 000 removed 1 1 001 faulty removed 2 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg and on hdh, I get: Number Major Minor RaidDevice State this 3 34 643 spare /dev/hdh 0 0 3300 active sync /dev/hde 1 1 33 641 active sync /dev/hdf 2 2 3402 active sync /dev/hdg 3 3 34 643 spare /dev/hdh I notice the information changes from drive to drive and is inconsistent. Mdadm is not telling me which drives are bad when it assembles the array and I want to verify what is going on. I'd like to get more info to see if mdadm "officially" sees drives e and f as bad or just drive e, or none at all (since reports vary according to the drive). I would have thought, after the first issue with any drive, that the system would not have had the others in use, since, when booting, it would have waited for me to hit "Control-D to continue," so I doubt that there are actually two bad drives. Any ideas how I can get more information, find out why mdadm is not rebuilding the RAID or to get it to rebuild it? It seems to think the drives are all okay when it's adding them and doesn't report any issues with any drives until
Re: GTK audio CD burner?
On Sat, Aug 18, 2007 at 10:22:35AM +0200, Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandimby wrote: > Hi, > I run XFCE4, and I look for a GTK tool to > - burn Ogg/VOrbis and MP3 files to Audio CD > - perform basic Data CD burning. > > I know XcdRoast. > But is there any more Xfce integrated tool? How about gtoaster? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: can glx work without nvidia driver?
On Fri, Aug 17, 2007 at 23:20:29 -0400, H.S. wrote: > > I am trying to get this little OpenGL program I wrote some months ago, > but this time it gives me this error (it compiles okay though): > > $> ./mktrngdat > freeglut (./mktrngdat): OpenGL GLX extension not supported by display ':0.0' > > I notice that there is some problem with Nvidia driver now adays and > module-assistant auto-install does not work for nvidia. So at present, > my system (Etch) is not using the proprietary Nvidia module, just the > native nv module. [...] > My xorg.conf file has the following parts: > Section "Module" > Load"i2c" > Load"bitmap" > Load"ddc" > Load"dri" > Load"extmod" > Load"freetype" > #Load "glx" > Load"GLcore" > Load"int10" > Load"type1" > Load"vbe" > EndSection > Section "Device" > Identifier "NVIDIA Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]" > Driver "nv" > BusID "PCI:1:0:0" > EndSection > Section "DRI" > Mode0666 > EndSection > > Furthermore: > $> glxinfo > name of display: :0.0 > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". > Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual [...] > So, the questions is, how do I get my little program to work without > installing Nvidia driver? I would try to uncomment the 'Load "glx"' line in your xorg.conf. You probably commented out that line because the proprietary nvidia driver requires you to do so, but AFAIK the "nv" driver does need the normal Xorg glx module if you want to use the GLX extension. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GTK audio CD burner?
Hi, I run XFCE4, and I look for a GTK tool to - burn Ogg/VOrbis and MP3 files to Audio CD - perform basic Data CD burning. I know XcdRoast. But is there any more Xfce integrated tool? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
which program in sarge can zip files
zip can, but user can't decide whether to store or to deflate files. Which program can let user decide to store files (not deflate)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
