Re: Debian Installation upon an Alpha Server 4000 5/400

2007-10-20 Thread Steve Langasek
[this has nothing to do with the debian installer AFAICS; M-F-T set.]

On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 11:44:16PM -0400, Robert Garron wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern at Debian:

> First -- Love the release 4.0r1 -- best yet!  Used Debian on 32 bit before.

> Next, not sure who to report this to and/or ask the question, as I am 
> relatively new to using the Debian site (used Redhat and SuSe in past), 
> anyway hopefully I have the right people I am e-mailing to in Debian --->

> The issue is booting Debian Disk1 KDE on an Alpha Server 4000 5/400 system 
> -- after many iterations and contortions with different Ultra Wide 
> Differential SCSI controllers -- I was able to utilize an Adaptec 
> AHA-2944UW controller card to have Debian locate a disk and complete a full 
> installation 99% successfully.

> The last 1% is the booting of the formated, file system created, installed 
> Debian system which does NOT boot with the AHA-2944UW controller because 
> the driver for this card is in the distribution and thus found a disk 
> during the cdrom boot process, but the Alpha BIOS does NOT know about this 
> card so any "auto" boot sequence is out of the question... So reporting to 
> Debian my experience(s) is that:

> *** the Adaptec AHA-2944UW - ultra wide differential scsi card is NOT
> supported in the BIOS of Alpha Server 4000 and 4100's

It's possible that this is a question of firmware versions, either on the
alpha or on the SCSI card.  The card I'm currently booting my alpha from is:

00:06.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AHA-2940U/UW/D / AIC-7881U (rev 01)

I previously booted the machine using the QLogic ISP1020 that came stock,
but unfortunately the driver support for that card seems to have atrophied
in Linux 2.6 and it can no longer access the disks.

> *** the preferred controllers (used for VMS clusters and/or Tru64 Unix on
> any 4000 or 4100 Alphas) KZPSA, KZPSA-BB, KZPSA-BB_N, or KZPSA-PS used for
> Raid support with Ultra Wide Differential SCSI support for SCSI disks and
> Storageworks is supported withing the BIOS of any 4000/4100 AlphaServer but
> there is NO DRIVER within the Debian Linux Distribution that I could find
> (or any Linux that I can find) and thus auto booting is impossible.

How does these cards show up under lspci?  The only useful reference to
KZPSA that I find on Debian lists seems to imply that this is the same as
the Mylex DAC960 so commonly seen.  The DAC960 module is included in the
installer, as part of the scsi-extra-modules udeb; I know this was
historically supported, but that there were also some problems with it early
in 2.6 because of the non-standard device names that it exposed.  These are
probably worth a try, anyway.

Of the other cards you inquired about, the DAC960 cards and the QLogic
ISP1040 are probably the best bets.  The ISP1020 does not work for me, but
the later QLogic cards are still widely used.

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A specialista nyilt levele azoknak, akiknek...

2007-10-20 Thread Ajtocenter Hirlevel
 
 Ez egy nyílt üzenet minden otthonszeretőnek,
 
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Ha úgy kívánod, hogy ne küldjünk  több levelet,  elnézést a zavarásért, 
és kérjük, itt iratkozz le :>>   
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Re: Query about Iceape, Iceweasel

2007-10-20 Thread Steve Lamb
On 2007-10-19, Mumia W.. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Reply to list:
> http://cweiske.de/misc_extensions.htm#replyToList

Oddly enough this one isn't working for me on testing's TB! (2.0.0.6).  I
have both MHengy and Enigmail installed.  :(

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Compiz-fusion trouble

2007-10-20 Thread Bogdan Marian

Hi there,

I'm having this issues with Compiz-Fusion on Debian Etch, nVidia FX5200, 
KDE:


1. I can't start fusion-icon:

* Detected Session: kde
* Searching for installed applications...
* NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
* Using the GTK Interface
* PyGtk 2.10.0 or later required
... Trying another interface
* Using the Qt4 Interface
* No module named PyQt4
... Trying another interface
* Using the Qt3 Interface
* Interface not installed
*** Error: All interfaces failed, aborting!

2. i get 16 desktops ( Desktop1 is multiplicated )

Any thoughts? :)

Bogdan


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread William Pursell

Ed wrote:

> Is there
a different install image I should download and use.  I was not too keen 
on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install.  Do you know 
which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?


I didn't notice anyone address this yet--
You can get a full system up and going with just the first CD.


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Re: Any gammu or gnokii users out there?

2007-10-20 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I'm looking for a mobile phone management utility that work under
>> Debian Sarge stable. 


Jabka Atu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


>> nice and cool prog is moto4lin .
>>
>> http://moto4lin.sourceforge.net/wiki/Main_Page.


Digby Tarvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I have experimented with this, and have been able to use it to
>> nevigate the filesystem and upload and download audio and image files,
>> I still havn't found a way to upload/download the content of the phone
>> book or backup text messages.


Rodolfo:

> Then it is not what I'm looking for. I want in particular to download
> telephone numbers and sms messages from the phone (Nokia 6100 and 6630)
> to the PC.



See:

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=20424

Rodolfo


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Re: Save sms messages from mobile phone

2007-10-20 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It seems that I managed successfully to `sync' Contacts, Calendar and Notes
> between the PC and my Nokia 6630, via usb cable, using opensync, but
> unfortunately didn't manage to read and save sms messages from phone to PC.  I
> couldn't imagine it was such a hard matter.
>
> Please, if someone from this list has a *direct* experience about that,
> i.e. managed him/herself to save sms messages (and in cases also pictures and
> movies) from phone to PC, please be so kind to report its direct experience.


See:

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=20424



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Re: Read messages and contacts from mobile phone

2007-10-20 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [...] All I found was that maybe opensync was the best tool
> (all others failed in my experience) but I found it tremendously difficult to
> install and configure it with Sarge, without knowing if it would then really
> work or not.  A year after: can anybody say a definite word upon this matter,
> someone who really managed to see its mobile phone through Debian?



See:

 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=20424

Rodolfo


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Re: What project use Z ?

2007-10-20 Thread Jabka Atu
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Daniel Burrows wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 09:26:58PM +0200, Jabka Atu
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>> After a short academic course in Z
>> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z_notation) i was wondering if it is
>> implemented in big Projects (GNU) i had been noted that  Free Desktop
>> use the approach of Z (formal specification to find potential bugs)
>
>   Interesting, I hadn't heard of that.  Do you know if anyone has done
> work to link this with a system like Conquoction and get mechanized
> proof-checking for real languages?
>
>   Daniel
It's aint Free software (bummer) but the source code checking system
that is used in Ben Gurion University uses mathematical approach to
calculate potential places with bad code (sorry for the 3rd grade
language).

there is also use of CICS systems (IBM developers can help there ... )
that used Z in the design (that what had been said in wikipedia).



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mailmail and postfix : comments on the distro docs

2007-10-20 Thread schemelab
I am using Debian/Etch 4.0 and so far have been successful in
following README.Debian in /usr/share/doc/mailman

In the file  /var/lib/mailman/bin/postfix-to-mailman.py

We are told to make edits to
   /etc/postfix/main.cf:
   /etc/postfix/master.cf
   /etc/postfix/transport
   /etc/mailman/mm_cfg.py


Now I am getting continued error messages in

/var/log/mail.info. NOTE that one of the messages has to do with
transport.db, not transport. At this point I was lost and the docs
were no help. I was supposed to run postmap on the the transport file,
but no docs said to do so. This should be fixed.

Oct 20 04:37:47 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: process /usr/
lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 21321 exit status 1
Oct 20 04:37:47 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: /usr/lib/
postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling
Oct 20 04:38:47 li2-168 postfix/trivial-rewrite[21324]: fatal: open
database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory
Oct 20 04:38:48 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: process /usr/
lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 21324 exit status 1
Oct 20 04:38:48 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: /usr/lib/
postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling
Oct 20 04:39:48 li2-168 postfix/trivial-rewrite[21333]: fatal: open
database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory
Oct 20 04:39:49 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: process /usr/
lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 21333 exit status 1
Oct 20 04:39:49 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: /usr/lib/
postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling
Oct 20 04:40:48 li2-168 postfix/anvil[21287]: statistics: max
connection rate 1/60s for (smtp:64.233.182.185) at Oct 20 04:30:48
Oct 20 04:40:48 li2-168 postfix/anvil[21287]: statistics: max
connection count 1 for (smtp:64.233.182.185) at Oct 20 04:30:48
Oct 20 04:40:48 li2-168 postfix/anvil[21287]: statistics: max cache
size 2 at Oct 20 04:33:42
Oct 20 04:40:48 li2-168 postfix/smtpd[21334]: connect from nf-
out-0910.google.com[64.233.182.184]
Oct 20 04:40:49 li2-168 postfix/trivial-rewrite[21335]: fatal: open
database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory
Oct 20 04:40:50 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: process /usr/
lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 21335 exit status 1
Oct 20 04:40:50 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: /usr/lib/
postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling
Oct 20 04:41:50 li2-168 postfix/trivial-rewrite[21336]: fatal: open
database /etc/postfix/transport.db: No such file or directory
Oct 20 04:41:51 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: process /usr/
lib/postfix/trivial-rewrite pid 21336 exit status 1
Oct 20 04:41:51 li2-168 postfix/master[21195]: warning: /usr/lib/
postfix/trivial-rewrite: bad command startup -- throttling


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Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-10-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 04:40:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I'm on an etch box running XFCE, and now I would like to play with Gnome
> some (after a long pause from it). Trying to install
> gnome-desktop-environment (or other packages pulling in gnome) using
> aptitude I run into some unmet dependencies and clashes gamin->fam. Is
> there a smooth way around this on an Etch machine?
> 
> --8<--
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   gamin: Conflicts: fam but 2.7.0-12 is to be installed.
> Resolving dependencies...
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
> 
> Keep the following packages at their current version:
> fam [Not Installed]
> 
> Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
> gnome-desktop-environment recommends fam
> nautilus recommends fam
> --8<--

The solution proposed by aptitude seems reasonable to me. libgamin0
provides and replaces both libfam0c102 and libfam0, so any feature that
relies on FAM libraries should also work with gamin installed.
Furthermore, the package description of gamin states that it "has been
designed as a drop-in replacement for FAM".

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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
The internet service provider could have an outage in the area or the 
modem/router may need updating.  With a web browser what happens when you 
surf to http://192.168.1.1/?  If you get the modem, it could need 
reconfiguring or updating.





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Debian on a biostar p4m900 motherboard

2007-10-20 Thread Andrea Ferraresi
Hello folks, 
I want to install debian lenny on a biostar p4m900 motherboard micro 
ATX on a touchscreen pc...have you ever tried it? what abuot linux 
support? 

Thanks AF. 

Please cc me i'm currently off list and sorry for my poor english :) 

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Re: Debian Install help

2007-10-20 Thread Ed


Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but 
from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I can 
not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can from 
any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks 
essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working 
machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my 
router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and also 
redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network card 
years ago.)


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customizing the keyboard layout

2007-10-20 Thread xpol
To customize my keyboard layout, i have created a new file "my_kbd" for the
default alphanumeric_keys  in /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols, then i have added
that new file to /etc/X11/xkb/rules/base.lst list.
Also added my new file to the xorg.conf line 
Option  "XkbLayout"  "my_kbd"

Is that the correct way to get my layout both in the character terminals and
in the kde environment?

It has worked for one year, yet broke a few weeks ago. 
Hnything changed in the base.lst format?

thank you 

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Re: Debian Installation upon an Alpha Server 4000 5/400

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 11:44:16PM -0400, Robert Garron wrote:
> 
> The issue is booting Debian Disk1 KDE on an Alpha Server 4000 5/400 
> system -- after many iterations and contortions with different Ultra Wide 
> Differential SCSI controllers -- I was able to utilize an Adaptec 
> AHA-2944UW controller card to have Debian locate a disk and complete a full 
> installation 99% successfully.
> 
> The last 1% is the booting of the formated, file system created, installed 
> Debian system which does NOT boot with the AHA-2944UW controller because 
> the driver for this card is in the distribution and thus found a disk 
> during the cdrom boot process, but the Alpha BIOS does NOT know about this 
> card so any "auto" boot sequence is out of the question... So reporting to 
> Debian my experience(s) is that:
> 
> *** the Adaptec AHA-2944UW - ultra wide differential scsi card is NOT 
> supported in the BIOS of Alpha Server 4000 and 4100's

I know nothing about Alphas, so my questions will be of generic
how-to-get-the-beast-to-boot nature rather than 'ideally...'.

What hardware do you have that the bios will boot?  Does the box have a
floppy or CD that will boot?  Will a grub-disk of some sort work?  Can
you make a boot CD with a boot-loader and kernel that then points to the
root directory on the hard drive?  What about net-booting?

Doug.


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Re: Help with Debian Install

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:54:51PM -, Ed wrote:
 
> I am not really sure.  This is an old computer, but years ago, it had 
> Redhat Linux 7 and Windows 95 dual boot running fine.  As time went by, 
> this computer was replaces with newer ones and slowly became obsolete.  
> Now I want to revive it and probably make it a print server, and maybe 
> web browser only machine, only running linux.  I have never used debian 
> before, but heard it was a good candidate for an old machine.  On my 
> other machines I run fedora 6 or 7. (and yes, I run Windows 2000 or XP)
> 
> Is there a way I can find out the network card and driver without taking 
> the machine apart.  It is in kind of a hard place to get at right now.

Just do a minimal install from the netinst.iso.  When you get to
choosing a mirror, choose none.  Let it try to contact
security.debian.org, which will fail, but it will put a commented-out
line in your sources.list file.  

When you get to task selector, deselect everything.  You will then just
get a base install minimal system.

When you boot into the system and log in for the first time, you can
type:
# dmesg | less

and look for what hardware was found.  The dmesg is a ring-buffer that
is filled by the kernel as hardware is found by the drivers.  You should
see everything.

However, if this computer doesn't have a PCI bus but instead and
ISA/EISA bus, then there may be some more work to do since the hardware
set-up is different and not so automatic.

What kind of computer is this:

Processor:
Memory:
Hard drive space:
System bus type:

As long as you are able to install a base system, dmesg will tell you
most of this.

Doug.


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Re: Debian Install help

2007-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:39:20PM -, Ed wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but 
> from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I can 

can your *other* machines ping to 192.168.1.1? 

I think maybe you've got some architecture issues in your network. Maybe you
are somehow misusing an uplink port on a switch or something like
that? 

> not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can from 
> any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks 
> essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working 

essentially the same means different, so how about providing us a
working and non working route?

> machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my 
> router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and also 
> redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network card 
> years ago.)

what are you using for a router? maybe you've somehow cnofigured a
firewall such that this machine is not allowed out? Is your whole
lan on dhcp? if so, are any of the "statically" defined? is your
router/firewall limiting which parts of the address range are allowed
out? do you have separate dhcp ranges with different rules? 
can you try giving the install machine a fixed ip for the install
process? can you plug the machine directly into the router just for
the install and if so does that help? (that would have the effect of
removing all other variables and help pinpoint the error). Maybe
you've got a borked dhcp system and its assigning the same address to
multiple machines? etc etc etc

there are many possible causes or work around for this
issue. Hopefully, I've spurred you to find something


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Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-10-20 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:24:04 + (UTC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> I'm on an etch box running XFCE, and now I would like to play with
> Gnome some (after a long pause from it). Trying to install
> gnome-desktop-environment (or other packages pulling in gnome) using
> aptitude I run into some unmet dependencies and clashes gamin->fam. Is
> there a smooth way around this on an Etch machine?


gnome, on my machine, works with gamin instead of fam.


Mark


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Re: Etch and Audio CDs

2007-10-20 Thread David Fox
On 10/19/07, Todd A. Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm having a problem under Etch reading the last track on some CDs. I've
> googled around enough to know I'm not the only one having the problem,
> but can't find a solution.

Have you tried cdparanoia? It may have better success reading the contents.


And based on your second post, it may be a media issue (dirty disc?)
rather than a software one.


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Linux stuck when serial cable is disconnected

2007-10-20 Thread hagit
Hi all,
I am running on a MIPS machine, with my kernel and debian distribution
(file system).
The kernel messages are configured to get out from the serial
connection, i.e. serial console.
When the serial output of my MIPS is connected to my PC everything is
OK and I can see the outputs in the terminal.
When I disconnect the serial cable my Linux get stuck. Even my telnet
connection doesnt responds.
When I re-connect the serial everything is OK again.
Do you know what can be the problem?
I am working with HW flow control? can it be the problem?

Thanks a lot!
Hagit


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naive bind question

2007-10-20 Thread Tyler Smith
Hi,

I'm working through an old-ish book on web programming. It has several
pages of instructions on installing and running bind8 for use on a
standalone computer. I just used aptitude to install bind9, and
without any additional effort I think it's working. ps aux shows the
named daemon, and I can browse the web no problems. Is that all there
is to it? My browser seems to be a little snappier, without the usual
lookup times, but that could be wishful thinking.

Thanks,

Tyler


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Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-10-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:21:24 +0200
Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 04:40:17 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > I'm on an etch box running XFCE, and now I would like to play with Gnome
> > some (after a long pause from it). Trying to install
> > gnome-desktop-environment (or other packages pulling in gnome) using
> > aptitude I run into some unmet dependencies and clashes gamin->fam. Is
> > there a smooth way around this on an Etch machine?
> > 
> 
> The solution proposed by aptitude seems reasonable to me. libgamin0
> provides and replaces both libfam0c102 and libfam0, so any feature that
> relies on FAM libraries should also work with gamin installed.
> Furthermore, the package description of gamin states that it "has been
> designed as a drop-in replacement for FAM".
> 

I was a bit worried it would screw up my xfce install, but discovered
that running aptitude --without-recommends did the trick. 

Thanks guys!

/Andreas


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Re: raid 5 : partitioned array VS lvm

2007-10-20 Thread Fab
Alex Samad  samad.com.au> writes:

> > Lately I tried some different configurations (lvm & partition) to divide 
> > my raid
> > 5 array. 
> you might want to check out http://www.miracleas.com/BAARF/BAARF2.html talks 
> about why you might not want to use raid5 in this config and maybe raid1/0

Thank you for the information. I read few articles but I'm not a company, and
raid1/0 is too expensive for me. 

Anyway, it does not explain why there is so much performance differences between
lvm and partitioned array. 

Here is some additional information : 

# pvdisplay 
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/md0
  VG Name   raidvol1
  PV Size   1,34 TB / not usable 0   
  Allocatable   yes (but full)
  PE Size (KByte)   65536
  Total PE  21908
  Free PE   0
  Allocated PE  21908

# vgdisplay
  --- Volume group ---
  VG Name   raidvol1
  System ID 
  Formatlvm2
  Metadata Areas1
  Metadata Sequence No  11
  VG Access read/write
  VG Status resizable
  MAX LV0
  Cur LV3
  Open LV   3
  Max PV0
  Cur PV1
  Act PV1
  VG Size   1,34 TB
  PE Size   64,00 MB
  Total PE  21908
  Alloc PE / Size   21908 / 1,34 TB
  Free  PE / Size   0 / 0

# lvdisplay 
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/raidvol1/data1
  VG Nameraidvol1
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size849,25 GB
  Current LE 13588
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:0
   
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/raidvol1/data2
  VG Nameraidvol1
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size500,00 GB
  Current LE 8000
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:1
   
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/raidvol1/home1
  VG Nameraidvol1
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size20,00 GB
  Current LE 320
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   253:2


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Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Richard Carter
Thanks for all the comments.

Yes, Andrew, you are absolutely correct,  I didn't read the output from
aptitude carefully enough, partly because I didn't understand what much of
it meant.  So I'm especially grateful for your tutorial.

Up to now I hadn't thought that /root was full because as df -h shows below
there is still some space left in /
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/redcube-root
  268M  215M   40M  85% /
tmpfs 471M 0  471M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M   52K   10M   1% /dev
tmpfs 471M 0  471M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda1 236M   28M  197M  13% /boot
/dev/mapper/redcube-home
  136G   12G  118G   9% /home
/dev/mapper/redcube-tmp
  380M   11M  350M   3% /tmp
/dev/mapper/redcube-usr
  4.7G  3.4G  1.1G  76% /usr
/dev/mapper/redcube-var
  2.9G  293M  2.4G  11% /var
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
However, now I understand that the remaining room is not sufficient for
aptitude to do its work.

I think there are two possible solutions to this problem.  One is to rm
2.6.18/4-amd64 from /lib/modules, shown below
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib/modules$ ls -a
.  ..  2.6.18-4-amd64  2.6.18-5-amd64
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/lib/modules$
However, this may be a bad idea because it could cause another, new
problem.  Even if it doesn't break something it would be only a temporary
solution: a future upgrade would probably run into the same problem.

A better solution would be to move some space from /home to / , and perhaps
to /usr.  My HD has a big, non-encrypted partition for everything except
/boot  created by Logical  Volume Management.  This should make shifting
space around fairly straight forward, although I don't yet know how to do
it.  I'll read the literature on this and if I'm confused I'll start another
thread on LVM.

Thanks again for all your help.


Re: naive bind question

2007-10-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 20 Oct 2007 17:20:16 GMT, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm working through an old-ish book on web programming. It has several
> pages of instructions on installing and running bind8 for use on a
> standalone computer. I just used aptitude to install bind9, and
> without any additional effort I think it's working. ps aux shows the
> named daemon, and I can browse the web no problems. Is that all there
> is to it? My browser seems to be a little snappier, without the usual
> lookup times, but that could be wishful thinking.

I don't think bind is set up to even do caching out of the box, but I
could be wrong. You can use the command line utility dig to see what
your name server is doing. See dig's manual page for more info.


Cheers,
Kelly


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Re: naive bind question

2007-10-20 Thread Tyler Smith
On 2007-10-20, Kelly Clowers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20 Oct 2007 17:20:16 GMT, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm working through an old-ish book on web programming. It has several
>> pages of instructions on installing and running bind8 for use on a
>> standalone computer. I just used aptitude to install bind9, and
>> without any additional effort I think it's working. ps aux shows the
>> named daemon, and I can browse the web no problems. Is that all there
>> is to it? My browser seems to be a little snappier, without the usual
>> lookup times, but that could be wishful thinking.
>
> I don't think bind is set up to even do caching out of the box, but I
> could be wrong. You can use the command line utility dig to see what
> your name server is doing. See dig's manual page for more info.
>

I looked at dig and also nslookup. nslookup produces:

tyler:bind-> nslookup 
> www.cbc.ca
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address:127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
www.cbc.ca  canonical name = www.cbc.ca.edgesuite.net.
www.cbc.ca.edgesuite.netcanonical name = a1849.gc.akamai.net.
Name:   a1849.gc.akamai.net
Address: 142.176.121.5
Name:   a1849.gc.akamai.net
Address: 142.176.121.8

Does this mean that I'm using 127.0.0.1 as my name server? That's what I want
isn't it?

dig produces:

tyler:bind-> dig

; <<>> DiG 9.4.1-P1 <<>>
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 24999
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 13, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 13

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;.  IN  NS

;; ANSWER SECTION:
.   508217  IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  e.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  a.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  m.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  i.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  d.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  k.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  h.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  b.root-servers.net.
.   508217  IN  NS  j.root-servers.net.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   198.41.0.4
b.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.228.79.201
c.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.33.4.12
d.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   128.8.10.90
e.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.203.230.10
f.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.5.5.241
g.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.112.36.4
h.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   128.63.2.53
i.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.36.148.17
j.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   192.58.128.30
k.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   193.0.14.129
l.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   198.32.64.12
m.root-servers.net. 508217  IN  A   202.12.27.33

;; Query time: 6 msec
;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1)
;; WHEN: Sat Oct 20 16:02:07 2007
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 436

tyler:bind-> 

Thanks for your help. I know these are very basic questions.

Cheers,

Tyler


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Re: Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 01:59:19PM -0400, Richard Carter wrote:
> Thanks for all the comments.
> 
> Yes, Andrew, you are absolutely correct,  I didn't read the output from
> aptitude carefully enough, partly because I didn't understand what much of
> it meant.  So I'm especially grateful for your tutorial.
> 
> Up to now I hadn't thought that /root was full because as df -h shows below
> there is still some space left in /
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mapper/redcube-root
>   268M  215M   40M  85% /
...
> 
> A better solution would be to move some space from /home to / , and perhaps
> to /usr.  My HD has a big, non-encrypted partition for everything except
> /boot  created by Logical  Volume Management.  This should make shifting
> space around fairly straight forward, although I don't yet know how to do
> it.  I'll read the literature on this and if I'm confused I'll start another
> thread on LVM.

man resize2fs
man lvresize

backup!

A


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Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-10-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:51:37 +0200, andreas DOT ronnquist AT gmail DOT com 
wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:21:24 +0200
> Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 04:40:17 +0200, andreas DOT ronnquist AT gmail DOT 
> > com wrote:
> > > I'm on an etch box running XFCE, and now I would like to play with Gnome
> > > some (after a long pause from it). Trying to install
> > > gnome-desktop-environment (or other packages pulling in gnome) using
> > > aptitude I run into some unmet dependencies and clashes gamin->fam. Is
> > > there a smooth way around this on an Etch machine?
> > 
> > The solution proposed by aptitude seems reasonable to me. libgamin0
> > provides and replaces both libfam0c102 and libfam0, so any feature that
> > relies on FAM libraries should also work with gamin installed.
> > Furthermore, the package description of gamin states that it "has been
> > designed as a drop-in replacement for FAM".
> 
> I was a bit worried it would screw up my xfce install, but discovered
> that running aptitude --without-recommends did the trick. 

Maybe my previous message was not clear enough (I did not want to make a
stronger statement since you did not post the full list of what aptitude
wanted to do): As far as the fam vs. gamin problem is concerned,
aptitude figured out the correct course of action all by itself. It
proposed to ignore the recommendation of fam by these two packages and
to leave fam uninstalled, thus keeping gamin intact on your system, for
both XFCE and Gnome to use. All you had to do was to accept the proposed
solution.

Running aptitude --without-recommends sidestepped the problem, but now
you might be missing some Gnome features which are implemented by other
recommended packages. You could run aptitude in interactive mode, press
"l" to limit the package view and enter

!~i~Rrecommends:~i

as the criterion. This will limit the display to packages which are not
installed even though they are recommended by packages which are
installed. Then you can go over this list, check the descriptions and
decide if you need any of these recommended packages.

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Re: Update on: How to wifi with ipw3945 on Dell Vostro ???

2007-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 08:48:39AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 12:14:04PM +0200, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote:
> > I still cannot wifi with my laptop but I can see that the laptop is
> > sending it's DHCP requests to the network, I can see the request being
> > answered by the server but somehow/somewhere the the response gets lost.
> > 
> > If I try to make a connection through the NetworkManager I see (using
> > tcpdump) the following traffic.
> 
> I don't trust NetworkManager, FWIW. 
> 
> I've been playing with this a bit and have gotten mine to work
> reliably in the house here connecting to an ad-hoc network. I'm just
> using iwconfig and ifconfig
> 
> iwconfig eth2 essid "blah"
> iwconfig eth2 key restricted s:foo
> ifconfig eth2 up

also need (for my ad-hoc config) 
iwconfig eth2 mode ad-hoc

one more thing I've learned, at least for my steup: power saving
doesn't work. If I set any of the power-saving modes I get lots of
dropped packets, no web access, and my ssh sessions lockup until I
turn it back off. 

A


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Re: Linux stuck when serial cable is disconnected

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 10:09:37AM -0700, hagit wrote:
> I am running on a MIPS machine, with my kernel and debian distribution
> (file system).
> The kernel messages are configured to get out from the serial
> connection, i.e. serial console.
> When the serial output of my MIPS is connected to my PC everything is
> OK and I can see the outputs in the terminal.
> When I disconnect the serial cable my Linux get stuck. Even my telnet
> connection doesnt responds.
> When I re-connect the serial everything is OK again.
> Do you know what can be the problem?
> I am working with HW flow control? can it be the problem?

Sure.  HW is telling the serial port that the kernel thinks is its
console that it is not Clear To Send; so it waits.  Do you have another
device that could also be a console?  I.e. on a normal i386 with both a
VGA console and a serial console, the console messages will go to both.
If the serial is disconnected, the kernel can still send to the VGA.  

I don't know MIPS to know what other console options there are.

I could be wrong and its not hardware flow-control (RTS/CTS) that's the
problem but things like DSR and DTR.  You could try tying DSR and DTR
together at the cable end so that it gets its own signal.  

Or, I could be totally wrong and the kernel should be able to send to
the console serial port even if nothing is connected.

Doug.


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Re: Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 01:59:19PM -0400, Richard Carter wrote:
 
> Up to now I hadn't thought that /root was full because as df -h shows below
> there is still some space left in /
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/mapper/redcube-root
>   268M  215M   40M  85% /
> tmpfs 471M 0  471M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev   10M   52K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs 471M 0  471M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda1 236M   28M  197M  13% /boot
> /dev/mapper/redcube-home
>   136G   12G  118G   9% /home
> /dev/mapper/redcube-tmp
>   380M   11M  350M   3% /tmp
> /dev/mapper/redcube-usr
>   4.7G  3.4G  1.1G  76% /usr
> /dev/mapper/redcube-var
>   2.9G  293M  2.4G  11% /var
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
> However, now I understand that the remaining room is not sufficient for
> aptitude to do its work.

With separate /home, /usr, /var, and /tmp, 268 MB should be more than
adequate for /.  How many kernels do you have installed?  How many do
you need?  Unless you're a kernel developer, you should only need the
one that currently runs, and room for one to be updated.  

Doug.


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Re: naive bind question

2007-10-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 20 Oct 2007 19:09:06 GMT, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I looked at dig and also nslookup. nslookup produces:
>
> tyler:bind-> nslookup
> > www.cbc.ca
> Server: 127.0.0.1
> Address:127.0.0.1#53
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> www.cbc.ca  canonical name = www.cbc.ca.edgesuite.net.
> www.cbc.ca.edgesuite.netcanonical name = a1849.gc.akamai.net.
> Name:   a1849.gc.akamai.net
> Address: 142.176.121.5
> Name:   a1849.gc.akamai.net
> Address: 142.176.121.8
>
> Does this mean that I'm using 127.0.0.1 as my name server? That's what I want
> isn't it?

I'm not so good at dns, but that looks good. I think you do have a working
caching name server.

For dig try:
"dig @127.0.0.1 cbc.ca"

The @ sign means use the dns server at the following address.
The next argument is what record to look up.


Cheer,
Kelly


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Re: Debian Install help

2007-10-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
You could have a bad cable running from the affected computer to the 
router.  Why not try a cable swap and find out if you can take another of 
your machines down?





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openssh and avoiding multiplexed connections

2007-10-20 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
Even after re-reading the man page a few times, I'm unclear as to how I
can open a new connection to the same host without re-using the master
connection if ControlMaster is set to auto in ~/.ssh/config.

In other words, if I have an existing forward opened with -fN, but I
want a fresh connection instead of multiplexing the existing socket, how
can I do that on the command line? Am I missing something obvious?

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Re: Debian Install help

2007-10-20 Thread Ed
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:00:17 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 02:39:20PM -, Ed wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting.  From the affected machine, I can NOT ping 192.168.1.1 but
>> from affected machine, I CAN ping other machines on my local lan.  I
>> can
> 
> can your *other* machines ping to 192.168.1.1?
> 
> I think maybe you've got some architecture issues in your network. Maybe
> you are somehow misusing an uplink port on a switch or something like
> that?
> 
>> not ping anything on the internet from the affected machine, but can
>> from any other machine on my home lan.  The output of 'route' looks
>> essentially the same on the affected machine as it does on working
> 
> essentially the same means different, so how about providing us a
> working and non working route?
> 
>> machines. So, I think it is definietely some kind of problem with my
>> router/old machine. (This old machine 'used' to work with win95 and
>> also redhad 7.0 through the same router and dsl modem and same network
>> card years ago.)
> 
> what are you using for a router? maybe you've somehow cnofigured a
> firewall such that this machine is not allowed out? Is your whole lan on
> dhcp? if so, are any of the "statically" defined? is your
> router/firewall limiting which parts of the address range are allowed
> out? do you have separate dhcp ranges with different rules? can you try
> giving the install machine a fixed ip for the install process? can you
> plug the machine directly into the router just for the install and if so
> does that help? (that would have the effect of removing all other
> variables and help pinpoint the error). Maybe you've got a borked dhcp
> system and its assigning the same address to multiple machines? etc etc
> etc
> 
> there are many possible causes or work around for this issue. Hopefully,
> I've spurred you to find something
> 
> 
> A

Hi Andrew,
You ask great questions - THANKS
Here are some answers.

On the machine that does NOT reach the Internet, here is the output from 
route command.
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0

Here is the output from ifconfig command.

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90  
  inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:10462 (10.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5752 (5.6 KiB)
  Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)  TX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)

On a machine that DOES work, here is the output from route command.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
Iface
192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
eth0
169.254.0.0 *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
eth0

And on machine that DOES work, here is output from ifcongig

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:18:24:89:1A  
  inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fe24:891a/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:1158648 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:729749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
  RX bytes:1555494197 (1.4 GiB)  TX bytes:69461364 (66.2 MiB)
  Interrupt:5 Base address:0x6000 

loLink encap:Local Loopback  
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
  RX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)  TX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)

>From the bad machine, I can ping the good machine and vice versa.  From 
the good machine, I can ping the router at 192.168.1.1 but from the bad 
machine, I can NOT ping the router - I get Destination Unreachable.

>From the good maching, I can ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu which is at 
169.229.49.36, but from the bad machine, I can not ping 169.229.49.36, 
again getting Destination Host Un

Re: Compiz-fusion trouble

2007-10-20 Thread KS
Bogdan Marian wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I'm having this issues with Compiz-Fusion on Debian Etch, nVidia FX5200,
> KDE:
> 
> 1. I can't start fusion-icon:
> 
> * Detected Session: kde
> * Searching for installed applications...
> * NVIDIA on Xorg detected, exporting: __GL_YIELD=NOTHING
> * Using the GTK Interface
> * PyGtk 2.10.0 or later required
> ... Trying another interface
> * Using the Qt4 Interface
> * No module named PyQt4
> ... Trying another interface
> * Using the Qt3 Interface
> * Interface not installed
> *** Error: All interfaces failed, aborting!
> 
> 2. i get 16 desktops ( Desktop1 is multiplicated )
> 
> Any thoughts? :)
> 
> Bogdan
> 
> 

1. Although I'm using the shame repo right now but it also worked with
the regular unstable repository. With KDE I think you need to install
compiz-kde if you don't have it already.

2. If you already have 4 desktop workspaces, they were getting
multiplied when compiz started. I think I made a change in the number of
desktops in the compizconfig-settings-manager ... which isn't starting
for me right now :(

HTH
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clamdscan error

2007-10-20 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
I'm getting the following error with clamdscan:

$ formail -ds < $MAIL | clamdscan --disable-summary --stdout -
WARNING: Can't write to the socket.

Clamscan works fine, and so does piping an individual file into
clamdscan, so there seems to be a problem with clamdscan and larger
pipes. What should I do?

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Re: openssh and avoiding multiplexed connections

2007-10-20 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:12:18 -0700
"Todd A. Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Even after re-reading the man page a few times, I'm unclear as to how
> I can open a new connection to the same host without re-using the
> master connection if ControlMaster is set to auto in ~/.ssh/config.
> 
> In other words, if I have an existing forward opened with -fN, but I
> want a fresh connection instead of multiplexing the existing socket,
> how can I do that on the command line? Am I missing something obvious?
> 

You could force a new connection as follows:

ssh -o ControlPath=none 

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Re: Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:44:54 -0400
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[snip]

> adequate for /.  How many kernels do you have installed?  How many do
> you need?  Unless you're a kernel developer, you should only need the
> one that currently runs, and room for one to be updated.  

I usually have at least one custom compiled one, and one stock Debian
one.  The latter is indispensable for ascertaining that some problem or
lack of functionality is due to my custom (mis)configuration, and for
quickly getting that functionality if I need it immediately.  I also
like to keep one or two older ones around in case there's some kind of
regression and for possible help in pinpointing exactly when some change
occurred. 

> Doug.

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Re: Debian Install help

2007-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 08:24:58PM -, Ed wrote:
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> You ask great questions - THANKS

I'm just going through the same process I would for my own systems. It
a matter of asking more and more questions until you hit the one that
does it. :)

> Here are some answers.
> 
> On the machine that does NOT reach the Internet, here is the output from 
> route command.
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
> eth0
> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
> eth0
> 
> Here is the output from ifconfig command.
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:20:78:1E:66:90  
>   inet addr:192.168.1.103  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:96 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:100 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
>   RX bytes:10462 (10.2 KiB)  TX bytes:5752 (5.6 KiB)
>   Interrupt:10 Base address:0x6200 
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback  
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:45 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>   RX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)  TX bytes:4352 (4.2 KiB)

that all looks good. you could try traceroute on your bad machine and
see what happens. but I doubt that's available from the installer

> 
> On a machine that DOES work, here is the output from route command.
> 
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse 
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 *   255.255.255.0   U 0  00 
> eth0
> 169.254.0.0 *   255.255.0.0 U 0  00 
> eth0

don't sweat that entry. its from avahi-daemon or something like that.

> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00 
> eth0
> 
> And on machine that DOES work, here is output from ifcongig
> 
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:E0:18:24:89:1A  
>   inet addr:192.168.1.102  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   inet6 addr: fe80::2e0:18ff:fe24:891a/64 Scope:Link
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:1158648 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:729749 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 
>   RX bytes:1555494197 (1.4 GiB)  TX bytes:69461364 (66.2 MiB)
>   Interrupt:5 Base address:0x6000 
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback  
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2454 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>   RX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)  TX bytes:9376692 (8.9 MiB)
> 

it all looks good to me. I'm down to two suggestions:

1) follow Jude's advice and swap cables around. Be sure to do it
   methodically so you can test both the cable and the ports on your
   switch.

2) complete the install without configuring apt, and reboot. It may
   just work. You can always configure apt later and get more
   installing done after that. 

If it still doesn't work, then I'd look at tcpdump perhaps as a way to
try and see what's happening, but that's out of my league.

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Re: Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 08:00:06PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:44:54 -0400
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > adequate for /.  How many kernels do you have installed?  How many do
> > you need?  Unless you're a kernel developer, you should only need the
> > one that currently runs, and room for one to be updated.  
> 
> I usually have at least one custom compiled one, and one stock Debian
> one.  The latter is indispensable for ascertaining that some problem or
> lack of functionality is due to my custom (mis)configuration, and for
> quickly getting that functionality if I need it immediately.  I also
> like to keep one or two older ones around in case there's some kind of
> regression and for possible help in pinpointing exactly when some change
> occurred. 
> 

I have to second that. have enough room in /boot for at leas the
current kernel and one previous, known working, one.

plus enough room for the next upgrade. 

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Re: Update failure

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 08:00:06PM -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:44:54 -0400
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > adequate for /.  How many kernels do you have installed?  How many do
> > you need?  Unless you're a kernel developer, you should only need the
> > one that currently runs, and room for one to be updated.  
> 
> I usually have at least one custom compiled one, and one stock Debian
> one.  The latter is indispensable for ascertaining that some problem or
> lack of functionality is due to my custom (mis)configuration, and for
> quickly getting that functionality if I need it immediately.  I also
> like to keep one or two older ones around in case there's some kind of
> regression and for possible help in pinpointing exactly when some change
> occurred. 

I figured that only kernel developers need to compile custom kernels :)

OK, so one stock that works, one custom that works, room for a new
custom to test, and room for a new stock to test.  That's room for four
kernels, their initrds, and their modules in lib.  So how big a / does
that mean if the usual separate filesystems are used?  

And how big does that make /boot should someone need a separate /boot
(e.g. / is on LVM over raid1 with /boot on a separate raid1)? 

Doug.



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mkboot -- "if GRUB is installed it does nothing .."

2007-10-20 Thread cga2000
This is what "man mkboot" tells me.

"If GRUB is installed, it does nothing.  If LILO is in use, it runs
/sbin/lilo.  If SILO is installed, it does nothing.  Otherwise, mkboot
will make a new bootdisk."

Well that's not true.

lilo is not installed on this system and yet when I ran mkboot it did
create a boot floppy alright.

I was installing a new kernel and as recommended by Kevin McKinley's
excellent document: "Creating custom kernels with Debian's
kernel-package system" I decided to create a boot floppy just in case.

As usual I had no problem booting either the new or the old kernel but
I was never able to boot off of the floppy created by "mkboot".

Couldn't find the "root system" or something.

Does this mean that with everyone coming up with their improved "rescue
disks" and floppy drives becoming a rarity, boot floppies are now a
thing of the past?

Or are there circumstances when making a boot floppy is still advisable?

If so, since mkboot appears to require lilo, what's the alternative for
us grub guys?

Thanks,
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Re: mkboot -- "if GRUB is installed it does nothing .."

2007-10-20 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
 
> Does this mean that with everyone coming up with their improved "rescue
> disks" and floppy drives becoming a rarity, boot floppies are now a
> thing of the past?
> 
> Or are there circumstances when making a boot floppy is still advisable?
> 
> If so, since mkboot appears to require lilo, what's the alternative for
> us grub guys?

With 2.6 kernels being so big, plus needing an initrd, I haven't seen an
acutal boot floppy since 2.4 days with Woody.

To just get to a Grub prompt, you can create a grub disk, either
following the directions in the docs or by installing grub-disk and then
dd'ing the image file it gives you.

Doug.


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arecord and level meters

2007-10-20 Thread H.S.

Hello,

If I have a recoding going on using arecord (perhaps automated by using
the at command) in the background, is there any way I can see the input
 meter levels by logging in to the machine?

At present, on Debian Testing, if I am recording using arecord and fire
  up audacity just to check the input levels in audacity, I get this and
no monitoring of levels:
$> audacity&
[1] 17219
$> JACK tmpdir identified as [/dev/shm]
Expression 'parameters->channelCount <= maxChans' failed in
'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 786
Expression 'ValidateParameters( inputParameters, hostApi,
StreamDirection_In )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
line: 1774
Expression 'parameters->channelCount <= maxChans' failed in
'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 786
Expression 'ValidateParameters( inputParameters, hostApi,
StreamDirection_In )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
line: 1774
Expression 'parameters->channelCount <= maxChans' failed in
'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c', line: 786
Expression 'ValidateParameters( inputParameters, hostApi,
StreamDirection_In )' failed in 'src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
line: 1774

But if I am not running arecord, audacity shows the levels properly.
Probably some trouble with device sharing(?)

So, how do I go about seeing the input levels while arecord is working
in the background?

->HS



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chroot weirdness with hostnames

2007-10-20 Thread Todd A. Jacobs
I've created a chroot and placed "sid" into the /etc/debian_chroot file
inside the jail. If I use schroot as a mortal, I see the chroot
hostname, but if I change to the chroot as root, or su to root inside
the chroot itself, I see the original hostname.

Why isn't the chrooted-root account seeing the /etc/debian_chroot name
at the bash prompt?

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Re: mkboot -- "if GRUB is installed it does nothing .."

2007-10-20 Thread cga2000
On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 09:12:27PM EDT, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>  
> > Does this mean that with everyone coming up with their improved "rescue
> > disks" and floppy drives becoming a rarity, boot floppies are now a
> > thing of the past?
> > 
> > Or are there circumstances when making a boot floppy is still advisable?
> > 
> > If so, since mkboot appears to require lilo, what's the alternative for
> > us grub guys?
> 
> With 2.6 kernels being so big, plus needing an initrd, I haven't seen an
> acutal boot floppy since 2.4 days with Woody.

Yes, like folks .. they seem to be getting plumper with every new
generation.

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1366960 2007-02-21 10:56 vmlinuz-2.6.20.1.20070221
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1365560 2007-10-19 22:30 vmlinuz-2.6.23.20071019

-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1013692 2004-12-13 17:54 vmlinuz-2.4.27.041213

Not sure about the initrd, though.

/boot on this machine does not have anything that looks like one.

.. config .. System.map .. and vmlinuz .. that's it.

Have they moved it to some other location?

Or is it that I wisely built in everything that's needed at boot time?

> To just get to a Grub prompt, you can create a grub disk, either
> following the directions in the docs 

.. like grub's man page?

.. would you be referring to the Texinfo manual?

:-)

> or by installing grub-disk and then dd'ing the image file it gives
> you.

OK.

Looks like I need to grab the grub manual.

lilo used to have _two_ manuals with all the gory details exposed .. a
short user manual and a much longer reference manual IIRC (?) but as far
as grub is concerned I haven't seen anything that comes close.

Probably looked in the wrong places as usual. 

I'll give it another try tomorrow.

Thanks,
cga


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Re: chroot weirdness with hostnames

2007-10-20 Thread David Clymer
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 19:34 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> I've created a chroot and placed "sid" into the /etc/debian_chroot file
> inside the jail. If I use schroot as a mortal, I see the chroot
> hostname, but if I change to the chroot as root, or su to root inside
> the chroot itself, I see the original hostname.
> 
> Why isn't the chrooted-root account seeing the /etc/debian_chroot name
> at the bash prompt?

The following assumes that you are referring to the hostname displayed
as part of your shell prompt.

I believe that if you check the respective .bashrc of these accounts,
you will find that the "mortal" account contains something like this:

# set variable identifying the chroot you work in (used in the prompt below)
if [ -z "$debian_chroot" -a -r /etc/debian_chroot ]; then
debian_chroot=$(cat /etc/debian_chroot)
fi

# set a fancy prompt (non-color, unless we know we "want" color)
case "$TERM" in
xterm-color)
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ '
;;
*)
PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ '
;;
esac



Whereas the root account does not. Add these lines to the root .bashrc,
and your root prompt will also reflect the current chroot.

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Re: clamdscan error

2007-10-20 Thread David Clymer
On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 14:51 -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> I'm getting the following error with clamdscan:
> 
> $ formail -ds < $MAIL | clamdscan --disable-summary --stdout -
> WARNING: Can't write to the socket.
> 
> Clamscan works fine, and so does piping an individual file into
> clamdscan, so there seems to be a problem with clamdscan and larger
> pipes. What should I do?
> 

Have you checked to ensure that clamd is, in fact, running? If not, it
would explain why clamscan works, and clamdscan (which passes the
scanning off to the clamav daemon) does not.

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Re: Wiki page automation (POST method with urlencode)

2007-10-20 Thread David Clymer
On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 11:14 -0800, Ken Irving wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 16, 2008 at 08:49:58PM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> > I am looking for tool to create application/x-www-form-urlencoded data.
> > 
> > Here is the background.
> > 
> > As I use wiki.debian.org sometime but I was tired of slow response.  So
> > I now use local wiki to edit text fist and cut-and-pase to
> > wiki.debian.org.  
> > 
> > Then I was wondering how to do this more efficiently
> 
> This is not what you're asking for/about, but mediawikiafs aims to
> map from/to a 'mediawiki' wiki as an ordinary filesystem, so you
> can edit files locally and so on.  It handles the wiki interface,
> and maybe it'd be worth seeing how they do it.  It only works for 
> the mediawiki flavor, so may or may not be applicable directly.
> 
> I'll be interested in seeing other responses to your query, as I 
> have a hard time editing using browsers.  I wonder if there's a
> browser which uses a vi-like interface?...
> 

There's always vimperator (http://vimperator.mozdev.org/).

I vacillate between thinking that this is incredibly cool, and thinking
that it is completely insane.

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Where is linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-4_i386.deb?

2007-10-20 Thread jupiter . hce

Hi,

I installed Debian with kernel 2.6.18-4 on my PC, but I could not find 
linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-4_i386.deb, I can only find a  
linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-7_i386.deb which caused error when I install 
it.Where can I find linux-kernel-headers_2.6.18-4_i386.deb?


Thank you.

Kind Regards,

Jim


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