Re: Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Orestes Leal
With ETCH Everything will be OK!!

Greetings from Cuba.
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El Lun, 29 de Octubre de 2007, 12:30 pm, Triskal escribió:
> Hi there!
>
> I did a search for my problem, but couldn't find the answer. If I
> overlooked it, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new to Linux (I've used it
> for LaTeX, but not much else, and I'm an absolute novice at installing
> Linux.)
>
> About my system:
>
> 1. I have a Dell Dimension 5150 with a 320 GB SATA hard disc; on this
> disk, there is Windows XP (three partitions on the hard disc).
>
> 2. I bought a new internal hard disc (Samsung SATA2 160 GB
> (HD160/1HJ)) to install Debian Linux on it (Sarge 3.1r0a, which came
> on two DVDs which were part of one of the two main books in German on
> Debian Linux).
>
> The problem:
>
> The installation program didn't recognize either of my two hard discs
> (neither the one with Windows on it nor the new one): "no partitions
> found".
>
> Now, I'm currently downloading DVD iso images with Etch on it in the
> hope that Etch can handle SATA hard discs (since Sarge could not). Is
> there any point in doing this (i.e., does Etch still have the same
> problems with SATA discs)? Or what should I do?
>
> Please note that I'm still quite new to Linux. I have used it in the
> past to compile LaTeX documents, but that's about it. And I have only
> little experience with installing Linux.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
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Re: Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Orestes Leal
With ETCH Everything will be OK!!

Greetings from Cuba.
olr
===


El Lun, 29 de Octubre de 2007, 12:30 pm, Triskal escribió:
> Hi there!
>
> I did a search for my problem, but couldn't find the answer. If I
> overlooked it, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new to Linux (I've used it
> for LaTeX, but not much else, and I'm an absolute novice at installing
> Linux.)
>
> About my system:
>
> 1. I have a Dell Dimension 5150 with a 320 GB SATA hard disc; on this
> disk, there is Windows XP (three partitions on the hard disc).
>
> 2. I bought a new internal hard disc (Samsung SATA2 160 GB
> (HD160/1HJ)) to install Debian Linux on it (Sarge 3.1r0a, which came
> on two DVDs which were part of one of the two main books in German on
> Debian Linux).
>
> The problem:
>
> The installation program didn't recognize either of my two hard discs
> (neither the one with Windows on it nor the new one): "no partitions
> found".
>
> Now, I'm currently downloading DVD iso images with Etch on it in the
> hope that Etch can handle SATA hard discs (since Sarge could not). Is
> there any point in doing this (i.e., does Etch still have the same
> problems with SATA discs)? Or what should I do?
>
> Please note that I'm still quite new to Linux. I have used it in the
> past to compile LaTeX documents, but that's about it. And I have only
> little experience with installing Linux.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
>
>
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Re: Help With Dependencies

2007-10-29 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:30:43PM -0700, Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> How come such a difference?  I don't want to install all of that other 
> stuff.  I just want to install mercurial and what is required to run that 
> program.

  I guess that a lot of that is being pulled in by kdiff3.

  Debian has three ways packages can require one another: Depends,
Recommends, and Suggests.  Technically, here's what they mean:

  a Depends b: a cannot function without b.  If a is installed, b must
   also be installed.

  a Recommends b: a almost always requires b for major functionality.
  In the words of Policy, this is a "strong, but not
  absolute dependency", and b is a package that
  "would be found together with [a] in all but unusual
  installations".

  In practice, this means that b should be automatically
  installed whenever a is.  However, package authors
  sometimes make dubious choices about what to
  recommend, so you might need to override their
  decisions.

  a Suggests b: b somehow enhances or provides extra functionality for a.
Frontends don't, in general, automatically do anything
with suggestions (in fact, I experimented with providing
this functionality in aptitude, but it tended to install
everything in the archive); they're meant as a hint for
the user.


  So, you can work around this case by passing --without-recommends, or
by individually holding back the offending packages (e.g., by adding
"kdiff3:" to the end of the command-line or typing ": kdiff3" at the
aptitude prompt).  I would advise against globally disabling the
installation of recommended packages, however; doing so risks ending up
with packages that are missing functionality that you expect.



  In the specific case you're looking at, I've found kdiff3 to be a very
nice 3-way merge tool that works well with Mercurial.  If you don't
already have a 3-way merger that you like, you might want to try it out.

  Daniel


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Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude

2007-10-29 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 12:14:18AM -0600, Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
>
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:
>>  I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
>> whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
>> command-line.
>
>
> I would disagree.  Aptitude supports command-line operation as well as 
> interactive.

  What I meant by that is that the project's goals and focus have always
been on interactivity.  This isn't a matter of excluding particular
lines of development, but most of the work that goes into aptitude is
weighted towards its interactive features.  That's one reason, for
instance, that the "show" output from the command-line is prettier
than in apt-get, but slower and less useful to scripts.  These
deficiencies could be corrected, but they are lower-priority than, say,
improving interactive dependency handling and fixing UI glitches.

  Also, I was trying to gently point out that there's more to aptitude
than the command-line.  Excluding generic shared code, the rest of
aptitude is about 6 times larger than the command-line interface, and it
would be nice to think people occasionally use all that stuff. :-)  I
occasionally notice people writing that they just discovered aptitude's
curses interface after using it for ages, so I know that this isn't
universally known.

  Daniel


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Re: Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Triskal
Thanks to everyone!

I'm still not finished downloading etch. I hope, etch will recognize
my sata discs. I'll let you know once I'll know more.


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Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude

2007-10-29 Thread Preston Boyington
Daniel Burrows wrote:
> 
>   Identical behavior to apt-get has never been a goal for me, so the
> answer is almost certainly "yes".  (not that I gratuitously break
> apt-get compatibility; it's just not something I track one way or the
> other unless I get bug reports)
> 

one thing i noticed from my recent switch was the difference between how
apt does searches:

apt-cache search foo

and how aptitude (non curses) does the search:

aptitude search ~dfoo

with aptitude i need to add the "~d" before my criteria to be sure it
looks in the package descriptions.

i only find it odd because i would have expected it to maybe be like so:

aptitude search -d foo

not an issue, just a difference that i though was not as intuitive as it
could have been.

that said, thank you very much for this wonderful package.  my
transition to it was flawless on my mixed source laptop and i am gaining
comfort with the curses interface daily.

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winbind + nsswitch issues

2007-10-29 Thread Alex Samad
Hi  



I have just installed a amd64 debian box, installed samba & samba-common

3.0.26a-1 and winbind 3.0.26a-1 



I have taken a working smb.conf from another machine (the one I am upgrading

from).  



I have done a net join  



I have updated my /etc/nsswitch
passwd: files winbind
group: files winbind
shadow: compat


when I do a wbinfo -u or wbinfo -g I get the desired results back, but when i   

do a getent passwd or getent group I don't see the windows users there !





I have only updated my pam.d for imap pop & squid   



I have had a google around, there is the issue with separators I use the

default and the original machine was using 3.0.2 samba  





Any thoughts ?  



Alex


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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Ken Irving
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:41:21PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> 
> Then, as I see it, you have two choices:
> 
> 1.Take the opportunity to learn Python.
> 
> 2.Cat the files together from the command line.  
> 
>   Easiest way is to put them all in one directory (with nothing
>   else) and issue:
> 
> $ cat * > contacts.txt

A problem may occur if you run this again after contacts.txt already
exists, since you'd be telling it to cat from and to the same file.
On some systems this might run away and create a very large file, though
on my sid box (with bash 3.1dfsg-8) it seems to work ok, emitting a 
warning:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/foo/ $ cat * > contacts.txt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/foo/ $ cat * > contacts.txt
cat: contacts.txt: input file is output file

Workarounds could be to cat to a file in some other directory, or 
specify a filename pattern that only matches the target files.

Ken

>   You now have everything in one file.
> 
>   Then put it in an editor and start manual sorting.
> 
> Doug.

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Re: Mutt Config Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Thomas Weinbrenner wrote:

Jeff Grossman wrote:
  
I am using Mutt with my Maildir mail setup.  I want it so that when I 
delete a message it goes into my Deleted Items folder instead of just 
getting deleted.  I have done some research and found the following macros:


macro index d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"
macro pager d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"


But, I have not been able to figure out how to put Deleted Items in there 
instead.  If I do this:


#macro index d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"
#macro pager d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"


It was to create a new folder called DeletedItems (no space).  Any ideas?



I don't know which version of mutt you are using, but the newer debian
packages (those in lenny and sid) include a trash patch, which
allows you to forget those macros and instead use this in your muttrc:

set trash="=.Deleted Items"

I tested it and it creates the folder with a space
Thank you.  That did work.  I am running testing.  I am just not that 
comfortable with Mutt, I really prefer Pine and/or Alpine.  Alpine does 
not currently read maildir mail folders though.  I have to see if I can 
figure that one out.


Do you know if there is a way to move to trash (Deleted Items) in Alpine?

Thanks,
Jeff


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Re: Mutt Config Help

2007-10-29 Thread Thomas Weinbrenner
Jeff Grossman wrote:
> I am using Mutt with my Maildir mail setup.  I want it so that when I 
> delete a message it goes into my Deleted Items folder instead of just 
> getting deleted.  I have done some research and found the following macros:
>
> macro index d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"
> macro pager d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"
>
>
> But, I have not been able to figure out how to put Deleted Items in there 
> instead.  If I do this:
>
> #macro index d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"
> #macro pager d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"
>
>
> It was to create a new folder called DeletedItems (no space).  Any ideas?

I don't know which version of mutt you are using, but the newer debian
packages (those in lenny and sid) include a trash patch, which
allows you to forget those macros and instead use this in your muttrc:

set trash="=.Deleted Items"

I tested it and it creates the folder with a space.

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Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude

2007-10-29 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:14:18 -0600
Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:

[snip]

> >  I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> > whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> > command-line.
> 
> 
> I would disagree.  Aptitude supports command-line operation as well as  
> interactive.

You do realize that Daniel is both the author and maintainer of
aptitude :) ?

[Thanks, Daniel, for your Debian, aptitude and d-u work!]

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Re: going from etch to unstable (sid)

2007-10-29 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Chris Bannister wrote:

> I would say: If you have to ask *this* question, then the answer would
> be: Not recommended.
> 

I would say: You are being rude to the OP, to say the least. How would
anyone learn without trying out and without asking questions if they get
stuck? I understand what you are trying to convey to the OP. But it would
be great if you can word it in a more polite way.

> Why are you wanting to "jump" to Sid? There is no way to go back to Etch
> if you don't like it.
> 
> If you just want newer software, check out http://debian.backports.org
> (or something like that) but then, by definition, your system is no
> longer stable. 8-(
> 

Not all the packages have backports. Besides, backports is not officially
supported and does not get security updates. If it is one or two packages,
then backports may be fine. But if it is anywhere > 5 (which is usually the
case), my suggestion is to go with testing or unstable.

raju

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Re: cannot open vnc session for one user from this machine

2007-10-29 Thread H.S.
H.S. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am not able to get xtightvncviewer to work for a particular user on a
> remote machine from my machine running Debian Testing. It works for a
> different user on the remote machine. And it works for that particular
> user from another machine here from my home! It is only my Testing
> machine on which it doesn't work for only that one user.
> 
> If I try to open a session, I get:
> $> xtightvncviewer  -encodings "copyrect hextile" localhost:1
> xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
> Unable to connect to VNC server
> 
> 
> This same command works for other users on the remote machine, and for
> all users on the remote machine from a different local machine.
> 
> Where could the problem be? I am quite baffled by all this actually.
> 
> ->HS
> 
> 

(feeling very sheepish) ... there was a typo in the command I was using
(using the history in bash) and was trying to connect to a different port :(

pretty embarrassed,
->HS



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mydns-mysql installation problem

2007-10-29 Thread Andreas Baitis
Hi there,

I'm having some trouble getting mydns-mysql to work.

I entered the wrong mysql root password at configuration on first install, now 
I can't dpkg-reconfigure the package, as it says the package is not fully 
installed, so I have no way to change the mysql root password that is being 
used by dpkg. Re-installing doesn't change the problem. Here are the results.



nexus2:/var# apt-get install mydns-mysql
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  mydns-mysql
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 7 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/250kB of archives.
After unpacking 692kB of additional disk space will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package mydns-mysql.
(Reading database ... 19058 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking mydns-mysql (from .../mydns-mysql_1%3a1.1.0-7_i386.deb) ...
Setting up mydns-mysql (1.1.0-7) ...
/etc/mydns.conf created/modified. See mydns.conf(5) for details.
A backup of the old config file is at /etc/mydns.conf.dpkg-old. Values
were preserved, except for database (database,db-*)
and distribution-specific information (user, group, pidfile).
ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: 
YES)
Creating database...
mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES)'
dpkg: error processing mydns-mysql (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 mydns-mysql
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)







nexus2:/var# dpkg-reconfigure mydns-mysql
/usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: mydns-mysql is broken or not fully installed




If I try

dpkg-reconfigure -P mydns-mysql

it just hangs.

I've manually removed the dpkg conffiles, still no joy, I get the same errors 
when trying to install mydns-mysql, and no opportunity to re-configure the 
package.


Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Andreas Baitis



Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude

2007-10-29 Thread Nate Duehr


On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Celejar wrote:


On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:14:18 -0600
Nate Duehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:06 AM, Daniel Burrows wrote:


[snip]


I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
command-line.



I would disagree.  Aptitude supports command-line operation as well  
as

interactive.


You do realize that Daniel is both the author and maintainer of
aptitude :) ?


Nope.

I guess he forgot that you can drive aptitude just fine from the  
command line?  ;-)



[Thanks, Daniel, for your Debian, aptitude and d-u work!]


Yep.  Good job.  Aptitude walks the dog, compared to apt-get.

I'm an old dselect guy who "migrated" to aptitude.

It's good stuff.

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Re: Apt-Get or Aptitude

2007-10-29 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:13:23 -0500
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:59 -0700, Daniel Burrows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 
> 
> >   I'd say the main difference is that apt-get is a command-line tool,
> > whereas aptitude is an interactive tool that can be driven from the
> > command-line.
> 
> Are there still command line usages of apt-get that are not
>  exactly the same in aptitude?  And has apt-get started keeping track of

The classic examples that arise periodically on the list are apt-get's
'build-dep' and 'source' actions, which apparently have no obvious
aptitude versions.

> manoj

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Mutt Config Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
I am using Mutt with my Maildir mail setup.  I want it so that when I 
delete a message it goes into my Deleted Items folder instead of just 
getting deleted.  I have done some research and found the following macros:


macro index d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"
macro pager d "s=Trash\n" "move message to trash"


But, I have not been able to figure out how to put Deleted Items in 
there instead.  If I do this:


#macro index d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"
#macro pager d "s='.Deleted Items\n" "move message to trash"


It was to create a new folder called DeletedItems (no space).  Any ideas?

Thanks,
Jeff


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Re: Help With Dependencies

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Nate Duehr wrote:


On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:

I want to install Mercurial.  If I use aptitude install mercurial I 
get the following:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
dbus dbus-x11 esound-clients esound-common fam fontconfig
hicolor-icon-theme jackd kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdiff3 libakode2
libart-2.0-2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libasound2 libaudio2
libaudiofile0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
libavahi-qt3-1 libavc1394-0 libdbus-1-3 libdrm2 libesd0 libfam0 libflac8
libfreebob0 libfs6 libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libice6 libiec61883-0
libjack0 libjasper1 liblcms1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmng1 
libogg0

libopenexr2ldbl libqt3-mt libraw1394-8 libsamplerate0 libsm6 libsndfile1
libspeex1 libtiff4 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 libxaw7
libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1
libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxslt1.1 libxss1
libxt6 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 menu menu-xdg
mercurial portmap python python-minimal python-support python2.4
python2.4-minimal python2.5 python2.5-minimal qjackctl xbase-clients

But, if I use apt-get install mercurial I get:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
mercurial python python-minimal python-support python2.4 
python2.4-minimal

python2.5 python2.5-minimal


How come such a difference?  I don't want to install all of that 
other stuff.  I just want to install mercurial and what is required 
to run that program.



I think what you're seeing is that apt-get and aptitude handle the 
"Suggests: " and "Recommended: " directives differently.


You can change that behavior in the aptitude menus, I believe, if you 
feel like it.


Also, are you sure that aptitude isn't completing some earlier 
installations done outside of aptitude?


What happens in aptitude's user interface if you just launch it 
without asking it to install anything?  Does it still want to?


Perhaps it is "catching up" on packages that are already installed and 
their recommended siblings.


I removed the option to automatically install recommended packages and 
now aptitude behaves like apt-get.  Thanks for the suggestion.


BTW, there were no pending installs.  If I hit 'g' when I got into 
aptitude it said there was nothing to do.  Those were all recommended 
packages for the Mercurial install I guess.


Jeff


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Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread MRH

Dnia 29/10/07 20:50,Nick Lidakis napisał:

Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hello.

Yes, it was running with the free version of the driver. I can 
successfully start if i change the Driver section to "nv" from 
"nvidia". In fact, that's how i'm able to send you this mail.




I had a similar problem once; realized I forgot to do "apt-get install 
nvidia-glx" which creates some necessary TLS links.


This page should be helpful, it describes the whole process quite well 
(with different ways of installing the driver) and offers some 
troubleshooting:

http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers

Kind regards,
Michal R. Hoffmann


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Re: mutt and IMAP accounts

2007-10-29 Thread Kevin Mark
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 08:47:34AM +0100, Martin Marcher wrote:
> 2007/10/29, Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:34:14PM -0700, Richard Otte wrote:
> > > I am trying to set up mutt to access IMAP accounts.  I can access them, 
> > > but I
> > > want to be able to move to the available mailboxes when I type c (and it 
> > > says
> > > to type '?' to see the mailboxes and then select a mailbox.  I can see the
> > > mailboxes, but if I choose one, I get a line that says:
> > > 1   IMAP
> > > and if I click on that, I simply get the list of mailboxes again; I can 
> > > never
> > > open a mailbox.  If I eventually type 'y', I go back to the main mailbox.
> > > I can move to the mailboxes if I type 'c' and then type "= name of the
> > > mailbox".
> 
> see the check_subscribed option in the manual (imap_check_subscribed,
> imap_list_subscribed may also be what you want)
> less /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz
Thanks for the nudge to RTFM ;-) My inital confusion was that non-imap
mail used 'c' and 'enter' and imap mail uses 'c' and 'space' to 'enter a
folder'. This my first exposure to imap, I thought both had the same
interface ala OO.
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Re: Help With Dependencies

2007-10-29 Thread Nate Duehr


On Oct 29, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:

I want to install Mercurial.  If I use aptitude install mercurial I  
get the following:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
dbus dbus-x11 esound-clients esound-common fam fontconfig
hicolor-icon-theme jackd kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdiff3 libakode2
libart-2.0-2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libasound2 libaudio2
libaudiofile0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
libavahi-qt3-1 libavc1394-0 libdbus-1-3 libdrm2 libesd0 libfam0  
libflac8

libfreebob0 libfs6 libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libice6 libiec61883-0
libjack0 libjasper1 liblcms1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmng1  
libogg0
libopenexr2ldbl libqt3-mt libraw1394-8 libsamplerate0 libsm6  
libsndfile1

libspeex1 libtiff4 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 libxaw7
libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxft2 libxi6  
libxinerama1

libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxslt1.1 libxss1
libxt6 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 menu menu- 
xdg

mercurial portmap python python-minimal python-support python2.4
python2.4-minimal python2.5 python2.5-minimal qjackctl xbase-clients

But, if I use apt-get install mercurial I get:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
mercurial python python-minimal python-support python2.4 python2.4- 
minimal

python2.5 python2.5-minimal


How come such a difference?  I don't want to install all of that  
other stuff.  I just want to install mercurial and what is required  
to run that program.



I think what you're seeing is that apt-get and aptitude handle the  
"Suggests: " and "Recommended: " directives differently.


You can change that behavior in the aptitude menus, I believe, if you  
feel like it.


Also, are you sure that aptitude isn't completing some earlier  
installations done outside of aptitude?


What happens in aptitude's user interface if you just launch it  
without asking it to install anything?  Does it still want to?


Perhaps it is "catching up" on packages that are already installed and  
their recommended siblings.


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Help With Dependencies

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
I want to install Mercurial.  If I use aptitude install mercurial I get 
the following:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
 dbus dbus-x11 esound-clients esound-common fam fontconfig
 hicolor-icon-theme jackd kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdiff3 libakode2
 libart-2.0-2 libarts1-akode libarts1c2a libartsc0 libasound2 libaudio2
 libaudiofile0 libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common3
 libavahi-qt3-1 libavc1394-0 libdbus-1-3 libdrm2 libesd0 libfam0 libflac8
 libfreebob0 libfs6 libgl1-mesa-glx libglu1-mesa libice6 libiec61883-0
 libjack0 libjasper1 liblcms1 liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmng1 libogg0
 libopenexr2ldbl libqt3-mt libraw1394-8 libsamplerate0 libsm6 libsndfile1
 libspeex1 libtiff4 libvorbis0a libvorbisenc2 libvorbisfile3 libxaw7
 libxcursor1 libxdamage1 libxext6 libxfixes3 libxft2 libxi6 libxinerama1
 libxkbfile1 libxmu6 libxmuu1 libxrandr2 libxrender1 libxslt1.1 libxss1
 libxt6 libxtrap6 libxtst6 libxv1 libxxf86dga1 libxxf86vm1 menu menu-xdg
 mercurial portmap python python-minimal python-support python2.4
 python2.4-minimal python2.5 python2.5-minimal qjackctl xbase-clients

But, if I use apt-get install mercurial I get:


The following NEW packages will be installed:
 mercurial python python-minimal python-support python2.4 python2.4-minimal
 python2.5 python2.5-minimal


How come such a difference?  I don't want to install all of that other 
stuff.  I just want to install mercurial and what is required to run 
that program.


Jeff


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Re: alsaconf and printing

2007-10-29 Thread Ed
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:10:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 17:31:08 -, Ed wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 00:02:56 -, Ed wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
>> >> The 2nd problem is with printing.  I have my printer connected to
>> >> another computer on my home network that is running samba.  On the
>> >> debian computer, I choose Desktop->Administration->Printing and Add
>> >> Printer.  I then follow all the screens (for windows printer (smb))
>> >> and it appears everything is fine. It sees my network and the
>> >> computer the printer is connected to and all seems well until I get
>> >> to the last screen.  When I hit Apply, this windows closes, and only
>> >> the original Add printer window is open with no new printer icon.  I
>> >> am not sure what is happening here. Other computers on my home
>> >> network print fine through the samba server.
>> > 
>> 
> 
> I think there was a problem with your print manager. This may be
> resolved by adding your user to those two groups, so you can simply try
> again. If that fails you can also try the CUPS HTML frontend
> 
> http://localhost:631/
> 
> which can be accessed using any browser. Keep in mind that you will have
> to provide two different sets of credentials: First you need username
> and password for the print server, so that CUPS can authenticate you
> whenever you print something, and then you need your local username and
> password (or the one of root) because the cups daemon needs to modify
> printers.conf. Cupsd can write to this file and it will accept your
> normal credentials if you are member of the lpadmin group.
> 
> Post again if you get stuck; in the worst case we will simply give you a
> working printers.conf for smb authentication (in which you will only
> have to put your printer server, username and password) and tell you how
> to install the driver manually.
> 
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>   Florian   |

Hi - Thanks for the help.  I'm still not there, but getting closer I 
think.

I added my user name to groups lp and lpadmin, rebooted, and can see both 
in groups username.

However, using the Desktop->Administration->printing  Add Printer tool 
still does not produce a printers.conf file in /etc/cups, BUT using the 
CUPS HTML frontend, I did create a printers.conf file. In fact, the CUPS 
HTML frontend 'said' the installation was successful.  However, I still 
can not print.  The problem probably is the printer address.  I don't 
know what to enter here. My printer is hooked up to another computer on 
my local network that runs samba and my windows laptops can see and print 
to it.  If I look at the printers.conf file on that computer, there is a 
line that says DeviceURI hal:///org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device
(more junk here).  Anyway, not knowing what to put for printer address, I 
put http://'the ip address of the local computer that has the printer 
connected to it':9100.  The CUPS HTML frontend tool seemed happy with 
that, but obviously, that was not really what it wanted as I can not 
print even a test page.

Still learning and reading, but not there yet.

Thanks

Ed


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Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
Argh!!

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:35:13PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> On Monday 29 October 2007 14:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:19:04PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > >
> > >   Reading changelogs... Done
> > >   Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > >   Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > >   Error: "/tmp/kde-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > >   Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
> > >   Error: "/tmp/ksocket-kloroyr3bC5" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > >   Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
> > >   Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > >   Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > >   apt-listchanges: Do you want to continue? [Y/n]?
> >
> > what are the perms of /var itself and its subdirs?  mine looks like
 ^

/var not /tmp



> >
> > anything under /var/tmp should be owned by root (UID 0), and not you
  ^

/var/tmp not /tmp


> 
> did a chown -R on var/tmp. then started ff and got some error messages. 
> session as follows:

no. you chown'ed /tmp which is not /var/tmp. And, *look* at /var
*first* to see if it matches what I posted.

don't panic though, there is (or should not be) anything persistent in
/tmp, so it will fix itself up with a reboot. 

meanwhile look at 

/var permissions for potential problems. In particular, /var/tmp
should have the sticky bit set. Maybe you could post up the output of 

ls -ld /var

and 

ls -l /var

thanks

A


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Re: texlive: command reference

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:12:05PM +0100, Tim Gruene wrote:
> 
> with tetex the documentation contained a command reference, and e.g. a 
> list of symbols which was very easy to locate with the main index.html 
> file.
> 
> I can only find a vast, rather unordered list of documents in many 
> different directories with the 'new' texlive distribution in Debian lenny 
> (or etch).
> 
> Is there at least the command reference in the texlive distribution? If 
> so, where is it?

Texdoc and especially texdoctk.

With texdoctk, you get a little GUI of menus of documents that you can
peruse and click on and it will pop up the correct viewer.

I started with texlive so I don't know how this compares with tetex.

IIRC, the "command reference" is the not-so-small intro to Latex in pdf,
but I could be wrong.

Doug.


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Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 29 October 2007 14:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:19:04PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > On Monday 29 October 2007 13:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:05:34PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > > When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing
> > > > happens. (i recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if
> > > > i start it as root ('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.
> > >
> > > what specifically happens? do you get a save dialog at all? does it
> > > seem to save but leave no file?
> > >
> > > regardless of the above, based on your whole permissions history, I'd
> > > say you should remove and reinstall firefox as a good starting point.
> > >
> > > A
> >
> > no save dialog, tho' nothing like a complaint that it can't save. it acts
> > in other words as if a good save except that nothing gets save,
>
> except that saving the page should pop up a save dialog, so its
>  definitely not working properly.
>
> > BUT if i look in
> > the ff error console, i find:
> >
> > Error: null has no properties
> > Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
> > Line: 545
> >
> > Error: not well-formed
> > Source File:
> > file:///home/kloro/.mozilla/firefox/uvxnoydh.Default%20User/\
> > downloads.rdf
> > Line: 3125, Column: 36
> > Source Code:
> >>
> > Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "ServiceManager::\
> > GetService returned failure code:"  nsresult: \
> > "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: \
> > "JS frame :: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/\
> > downloads.js :: Startup :: line 476"  data: no]
> >
> > Error: null has no properties
> > Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
> > Line: 545
>
> I don't know about this at all, but below...
>
> > also, when i did reinstall, i got the message:
> >
> > Reading changelogs... Done
> > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > Error: "/tmp/kde-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
> > Error: "/tmp/ksocket-kloroyr3bC5" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
> > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > apt-listchanges: Do you want to continue? [Y/n]?
>
> what are the perms of /var itself and its subdirs?  mine looks like
> this:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -ld /var
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 1.0K 2007-08-04 09:05 /var
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -l /var
> total 26K
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 06:25 backups
> drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  1.0K 2007-10-16 18:08 cache
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  1.0K 2006-09-26 16:59 games
> drwxr-xr-x 52 root root  1.0K 2007-10-18 11:23 lib
> drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff 1.0K 2004-12-15 14:55 local
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-19 09:49 lock
> drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  3.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 log
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   12K 2006-07-28 18:39 lost+found
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root mail  1.0K 2007-10-29 14:00 mail
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2006-07-28 18:40 opt
> drwxr-xr-x 21 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:46 run
> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root  1.0K 2007-09-06 11:48 spool
> drwxrwxrwt  4 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 tmp
>
> anything under /var/tmp should be owned by root (UID 0), and not you
> (UID 1000, probably), so start there.
>
> hth.
>
> A


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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:47:01PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> >> >>> I wish a way to print the
> >> >>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.
> Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> >> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
> >> >> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.
> 
> Rodolfo:
>  
> >> > Every file is like this:
> >> >
> >> > BEGIN:VCARD
> >> > VERSION:2.1
> >> > N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> >> > TEL;CELL:3391234567
> >> > TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
> >> > FN:Oliver Hardy
> >> > END:VCARD
> >> >
> >> > , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like 
> >> > that?
> 
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> > So, assume that anything is possible:
> >> >
> >> > 1.   What do you want to do?
> 
> Rodolfo:
>  
> >> I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above 
> >> entries, I
> >> don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words like
> >> `BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.
> 
> Douglas:
> >> > 2.   In what language do you want to do it?
> Rodolfo:
> >> This is the same for me.
> Douglas:
> > What I mean is, in which programming language(s) are you proficient?
> None.

Then, as I see it, you have two choices:

1.  Take the opportunity to learn Python.

2.  Cat the files together from the command line.  

Easiest way is to put them all in one directory (with nothing
else) and issue:

$ cat * > contacts.txt

You now have everything in one file.

Then put it in an editor and start manual sorting.


Doug.


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Re: Etch and Audio CDs

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:48:07PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2007-10-26 15:45:56, schrieb steef:
> > Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > >  However, I have riped all...
> > >  
> > *how* ?
> 
> cdda2wav
> 
> ...and leave it running up to the time when it exited
> normaly after writing 100 errors on my console.

How long does this take?

Patience is a virtue with which you are well endowed.

Doug.


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Re: tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 03:24:00PM +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Could someone please let me know what this is supposed to mean:
> 
> tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed
> 
> Command:
> 
> $ sudo apt-get  install  docbook-utils jadetex tetex-bin \
tetex-extra tetex-base
> 
> on debian oldstable (sarge)

Hopefully, someone who still runs Sarge can do some lookup.  I run Etch.

You'd have to ask aptitude (or whatever you do with apt-get, haven't
used it since Potato) to see what jadetex depends on.

Jadetex likely depends on tetex anyway, why not let apt sort out the
dependancy.  I.e. don't tell it to install tetex-base.

However, just to be sure, send your /etc/apt/sources.list.

Doug.


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Re: 2.3.0 ooffice

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:20:44PM +0100, Pavel SRB wrote:
> as i am still fighting with oofice, i was thinking about getting the 
> newest version. Now I have 2.4.0 downloaded via apt-get. I was searching 
> for a while internet, about new sources to my /etc/apt/sources.list to 
> have 2.3.0 available. Here i found that this version is available as 
> experimental.
> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/openoffice.org
> 
> so i add to my list
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
> 
> but after
> apt-get update
> i still get answer i already have newest.
> 
> did i add this experimental line correctly?
> 

Only if you're trying to break your system or you want to run an
experimental system (which often means the same thing).

Here be dragons.

Doug.


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Re: Best Kernel?

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:06:34AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:17:52AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >>
> >>Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
> >>system and then end up with a running system.?
> >>
> >>I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
> >>had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit. 
> >>
> >>Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
> >>that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)
> >>
> >
> >I believe that you can install a 64bit kernel on you i386 system.
> >Assuming that you have room in /boot and /lib, just add the 64-bit
> >kernel and keep your 486 (or whatever) and try it.  If it doesn't boot,
> >then choose the 486 from the grub menu.
> >
> >You can even run i386 apps in an amd64 system as long as you have the
> >i386 libs installed (available as a regular package in amd64).
> >
> Would I gain anything running a 64bit kernel on an i386 system?

Well amd64 has access to more (and larger) registers and can access more
virtual memory.  AIUI, 32 bit (without some BIOS shenanagans) only sees
2 GB or physical memory and can only map 3 GB of virtual memory.  Even
with BIOS shenanagans, the stock Debian i386 kernels aren't compiled to
take advantage of it.

So the first question is, how much memory does your box have?

You should peruse the amd64 list because this question comes up a lot
there and the answers are more informed than am I.  You see, you have
three main options when you're on amd64 hardware:

i386 install with 32-bit kernel
i386 install with 64-bit kernel
amd64 install with 64-bit kernel
install 32-bit libs to run most 32-bit apps if need be
install an i386 chroot if the above option doesn't work.

Bottom line, though, is that I haven't found any downsides.  When I'm
running Iceweasel with flash, I'm stuck in a chroot which is probably a
good thing since flash by definition is runing insecure code on my box
as me.  Unless there's something truely malicious going on it won't be
able to break out of the i386 chroot to affect the amd64 system.

Everything else is 64 bit.

Doug.


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Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 29 October 2007 14:53, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:19:04PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > On Monday 29 October 2007 13:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:05:34PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > > When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing
> > > > happens. (i recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if
> > > > i start it as root ('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.
> > >
> > > what specifically happens? do you get a save dialog at all? does it
> > > seem to save but leave no file?
> > >
> > > regardless of the above, based on your whole permissions history, I'd
> > > say you should remove and reinstall firefox as a good starting point.
> > >
> > > A
> >
> > no save dialog, tho' nothing like a complaint that it can't save. it acts
> > in other words as if a good save except that nothing gets save,
>
> except that saving the page should pop up a save dialog, so its
>  definitely not working properly.
>
> > BUT if i look in
> > the ff error console, i find:
> >
> > Error: null has no properties
> > Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
> > Line: 545
> >
> > Error: not well-formed
> > Source File:
> > file:///home/kloro/.mozilla/firefox/uvxnoydh.Default%20User/\
> > downloads.rdf
> > Line: 3125, Column: 36
> > Source Code:
> >>
> > Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "ServiceManager::\
> > GetService returned failure code:"  nsresult: \
> > "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: \
> > "JS frame :: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/\
> > downloads.js :: Startup :: line 476"  data: no]
> >
> > Error: null has no properties
> > Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
> > Line: 545
>
> I don't know about this at all, but below...
>
> > also, when i did reinstall, i got the message:
> >
> > Reading changelogs... Done
> > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > Error: "/tmp/kde-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
> > Error: "/tmp/ksocket-kloroyr3bC5" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
> > Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
> > Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
> > apt-listchanges: Do you want to continue? [Y/n]?
>
> what are the perms of /var itself and its subdirs?  mine looks like
> this:
>
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -ld /var
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 1.0K 2007-08-04 09:05 /var
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -l /var
> total 26K
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 06:25 backups
> drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  1.0K 2007-10-16 18:08 cache
> drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  1.0K 2006-09-26 16:59 games
> drwxr-xr-x 52 root root  1.0K 2007-10-18 11:23 lib
> drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff 1.0K 2004-12-15 14:55 local
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-19 09:49 lock
> drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  3.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 log
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   12K 2006-07-28 18:39 lost+found
> drwxrwxrwt  2 root mail  1.0K 2007-10-29 14:00 mail
> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2006-07-28 18:40 opt
> drwxr-xr-x 21 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:46 run
> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root  1.0K 2007-09-06 11:48 spool
> drwxrwxrwt  4 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 tmp
>
> anything under /var/tmp should be owned by root (UID 0), and not you
> (UID 1000, probably), so start there.
>
> hth.
>
> A

did a chown -R on var/tmp. then started ff and got some error messages. 
session as follows:

an:/$ cd tmp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ls -l
total 1
srw-rw 1 kloro audio 0 2007-10-29 12:17 
alsa-dmix-3591-1193685441-909804=
srwxrwxrwx 1 cwnn  nogroup   0 2007-10-29 12:15 cd_sockV4=
drwx-- 3 kloro kloro72 2007-10-29 12:16 gconfd-kloro/
drwx-- 2 kloro kloro96 2007-10-29 14:53 kde-kloro/
drwx-- 2 root  root 48 2007-10-29 14:06 kde-root/
drwx-- 3 kloro kloro   504 2007-10-29 14:19 ksocket-kloroyr3bC5/
drwx-- 2 root  root 48 2007-10-29 14:06 ksocket-root/
drwx-- 2 kloro kloro   528 2007-10-29 14:09 orbit-kloro/
drwx-- 2 kloro kloro48 2007-10-29 12:30 plugtmp/
drwx-- 2 kloro kloro80 2007-10-29 12:20 ssh-SJYMtO3390/
srwxrwxrwx 1 root  root  0 2007-10-29 12:15 td_sockV4=
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ sudo chown root -R
chown: missing operand after `root'
Try `chown --help' for more information.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ sudo chown -R root
chown: missing operand after `root'
Try `chown --help' for more information.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ man chown
Reformatting chown(1), please wait...
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ sudo chown -R root *
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp$ ls -l
total 1
srw-rw 1 root audio 0 2007-10-29 12:17 
alsa-dmix-3591-1193685441-909804=
srwxrwxrwx 1 root nogroup   0 2007-10-29 12:15 cd_sockV4=
drwx-- 

Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread Nick Lidakis

Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hello.

Yes, it was running with the free version of the driver. I can 
successfully start if i change the Driver section to "nv" from "nvidia". 
In fact, that's how i'm able to send you this mail.




I had a similar problem once; realized I forgot to do "apt-get install 
nvidia-glx" which creates some necessary TLS links.



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Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:19:04PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> On Monday 29 October 2007 13:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:05:34PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > > When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing happens.
> > > (i recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if i start it
> > > as root ('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.
> >
> > what specifically happens? do you get a save dialog at all? does it
> > seem to save but leave no file?
> >
> > regardless of the above, based on your whole permissions history, I'd
> > say you should remove and reinstall firefox as a good starting point.
> >
> > A
> 
> no save dialog, tho' nothing like a complaint that it can't save. it acts in 
> other words as if a good save except that nothing gets save,

except that saving the page should pop up a save dialog, so its
 definitely not working properly.

> BUT if i look in 
> the ff error console, i find:
> 
>   Error: null has no properties
>   Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
>   Line: 545
> 
>   Error: not well-formed
>   Source File: 
> file:///home/kloro/.mozilla/firefox/uvxnoydh.Default%20User/\
>   downloads.rdf
>   Line: 3125, Column: 36
>   Source Code:
>  
>   Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "ServiceManager::\
>   GetService returned failure code:"  nsresult: \
>   "0x80570016 (NS_ERROR_XPC_GS_RETURNED_FAILURE)"  location: \
>   "JS frame :: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/\
>   downloads.js :: Startup :: line 476"  data: no]
> 
>   Error: null has no properties
>   Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
>   Line: 545
> 

I don't know about this at all, but below...

>   
> 
> also, when i did reinstall, i got the message:
> 
>   Reading changelogs... Done
>   Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
>   Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
>   Error: "/tmp/kde-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
>   Link points to "/tmp/kde-root"
>   Error: "/tmp/ksocket-kloroyr3bC5" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
>   Link points to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
>   Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-kloro" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
>   Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-rootcohchy"
>   apt-listchanges: Do you want to continue? [Y/n]?

what are the perms of /var itself and its subdirs?  mine looks like
this:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -ld /var
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 1.0K 2007-08-04 09:05 /var
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/.emacs.d$ ls -l /var
total 26K
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 06:25 backups
drwxr-xr-x 17 root root  1.0K 2007-10-16 18:08 cache
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  1.0K 2006-09-26 16:59 games
drwxr-xr-x 52 root root  1.0K 2007-10-18 11:23 lib
drwxrwsr-x  2 root staff 1.0K 2004-12-15 14:55 local
drwxrwxrwt  2 root root  1.0K 2007-10-19 09:49 lock
drwxr-xr-x 13 root root  3.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 log
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   12K 2006-07-28 18:39 lost+found
drwxrwxrwt  2 root mail  1.0K 2007-10-29 14:00 mail
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  1.0K 2006-07-28 18:40 opt
drwxr-xr-x 21 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:46 run
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root  1.0K 2007-09-06 11:48 spool
drwxrwxrwt  4 root root  1.0K 2007-10-29 11:52 tmp

anything under /var/tmp should be owned by root (UID 0), and not you
(UID 1000, probably), so start there. 

hth.

A


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texlive: command reference

2007-10-29 Thread Tim Gruene

Hello,

with tetex the documentation contained a command reference, and e.g. a 
list of symbols which was very easy to locate with the main index.html 
file.


I can only find a vast, rather unordered list of documents in many 
different directories with the 'new' texlive distribution in Debian lenny 
(or etch).


Is there at least the command reference in the texlive distribution? If 
so, where is it?

Cheers, Tim


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Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread tom arnall
On Monday 29 October 2007 13:11, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:05:34PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> > When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing happens.
> > (i recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if i start it
> > as root ('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.
>
> what specifically happens? do you get a save dialog at all? does it
> seem to save but leave no file?
>
> regardless of the above, based on your whole permissions history, I'd
> say you should remove and reinstall firefox as a good starting point.
>
> A

no save dialog, tho' nothing like a complaint that it can't save. it acts in 
other words as if a good save except that nothing gets save, BUT if i look in 
the ff error console, i find:

Error: null has no properties
Source File: chrome://mozapps/content/downloads/downloads.js
Line: 545

Error: not well-formed
Source File: 
file:///home/kloro/.mozilla/firefox/uvxnoydh.Default%20User/\
downloads.rdf
Line: 3125, Column: 36
Source Code:
  

Re: tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed

2007-10-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 15:24:00 +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> Could someone please let me know what this is supposed to mean:
> 
> tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed
> 
> Command:
> 
> $ sudo apt-get  install  docbook-utils jadetex tetex-bin tetex-extra 
> tetex-base
> 
> on debian oldstable (sarge)

It seems that you are trying to install Etch's version of tetex-base
together with Sarge's version of jadetex. Please post the output of

apt-cache policy jadetex tetex-base

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Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread Bogdan Marian

John Wojnaroski wrote:

Bogdan Marian wrote:


John Wojnaroski wrote:


Bogdan Marian wrote:


John Wojnaroski wrote:


Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hey,

I followed this guide to install the proprietary drivers from 
Nvidia: 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ 
but i have no luck. X won't start if i let the "Driver   
"nvidiA"" section in xorg.conf untouched.

Can anyone guide me plz?

Bogdan


You need to at least post a copy of your xorg.conf file.  And look 
in /var/log for the log file.  There is a file called X.org.0.log 
that might help show any errors that X encountered when starting.


JW



Hey,

You are right...
Here is my xorg.conf:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  Wed Sep 12 
14:29:35 PDT 2007


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration 
tool, using

# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf 
manual page.

# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package 
upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the 
xserver-xorg

# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be 
automatically updated

# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Default Layout"
   Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
   InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
   InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"

   # path to defoma fonts
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load   "i2c"
   Load   "bitmap"
   Load   "ddc"
   Load   "extmod"
  Load   "freetype"
   Load   "glx"
   Load   "int10"
   Load   "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
   Driver "kbd"
   Option "CoreKeyboard"
   Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Configured Mouse"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "CorePointer"
   Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
   Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Generic Monitor"
   HorizSync   28.0 - 64.0
   VertRefresh 43.0 - 60.0
   Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"

#   Driver "nvidia"
   Identifier "Generic Video Card"
   Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Default Screen"
   Device "Generic Video Card"
   Monitor"Generic Monitor"
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   1
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   4
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   8
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   15
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   16
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   24
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection



What i can find in the log is :
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver 
not found)


Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, 
removing from list!
Could not init font path element 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!



Bogdan

Off hand, nothing jumps out at me regards the xorg.conf file.  That 
error msg should not have crashed X, per se.  Check further down and 
see if the Nvidia card is properly identifie

Re: When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:05:34PM -0700, tom arnall wrote:
> When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing happens. (i 
> recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if i start it as root 
> ('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.

what specifically happens? do you get a save dialog at all? does it
seem to save but leave no file? 

regardless of the above, based on your whole permissions history, I'd
say you should remove and reinstall firefox as a good starting point. 

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getty error messages

2007-10-29 Thread Florian Lindner
Hello,
on my freshly installed server I have tons of messages like that in auth.log:


Oct 29 20:59:58 osiris getty[7708]: /dev/tty5: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 20:59:58 osiris getty[7709]: /dev/tty6: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 20:59:58 osiris getty[7710]: /dev/tty4: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 21:00:07 osiris getty[7792]: /dev/tty2: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 21:00:08 osiris getty[7793]: /dev/tty1: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 21:00:08 osiris getty[7794]: /dev/tty3: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 21:00:08 osiris getty[7795]: /dev/tty5: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied
Oct 29 21:00:08 osiris getty[7796]: /dev/tty6: cannot open as standard input: 
Permission denied


The server is a virtual server. What causes this and how to get rid of it?

Thanks,

Florian


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When I try to save html pages, nothing happens

2007-10-29 Thread tom arnall
When I try to save html pages or whatever with firefox, nothing happens. (i 
recently screwed up the permissions on my system.) but if i start it as root 
('sudo'), or use iceape, all is ok.

tom arnall
arcata



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Re: alsaconf and printing

2007-10-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 17:31:08 -, Ed wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 00:02:56 -, Ed wrote:

[...]

> >> The 2nd problem is with printing.  I have my printer connected to
> >> another computer on my home network that is running samba.  On the
> >> debian computer, I choose Desktop->Administration->Printing and Add
> >> Printer.  I then follow all the screens (for windows printer (smb)) and
> >> it appears everything is fine. It sees my network and the computer the
> >> printer is connected to and all seems well until I get to the last
> >> screen.  When I hit Apply, this windows closes, and only the original
> >> Add printer window is open with no new printer icon.  I am not sure
> >> what is happening here. Other computers on my home network print fine
> >> through the samba server.
> > 
> > Check if the file /etc/cups/printers.conf exists; if it does exist then
> > you should post it here so we can have a look. WATCH OUT: This file can
> > contain clear-text usernames and passwords! Change those to generic
> > placeholders ("USERNAME", "PASSWORD") before posting the file.

[...]

> Now for the printing problem. I do have a file named /etc/cups/
> printers.conf but it has no contents. 

Something went wrong with the print manager if this file is empty.

> This 'may' be related to another 
> problem I just discovered.  If I log out of my user account and attempt 
> to log in with user name root and my root password, it won't let me.

This is normal if you are using the graphical login for X/Gnome. Root
login for X is disabled by default because it is a security risk. To try
your root login, press and hold both CTRL and (left) ALT, then press F1.
This should take you to a text terminal where you can log in as root.
You can switch between terminals and graphical environment at any time
like this; you don't even have to log out to do it. (The terminals are
F1 to F6 and the graphical environment is F7.) To log out at the text
terminal again, type "exit" (without the quotes) and press ENTER.

> It 
> keeps re-displaying the enter user name screen.  If I log in as a user, 
> and then issue a command with sudo in front of it, it asks for the 
> administrative password and I enter my root password that I entered 
> during the install process and it says invalid password please try 
> again.

This is normal, too; sudo wants your user's password and not the one of
root. The purpose of sudo is to give someone the ability to run certain
commands as root without telling him/her the root password. (If this
person knows the root password then there is no control what he/she can
do to the system.) This is handy if a system is administered by several
persons with different tasks; each one of them can only do what they are
supposed to do and all sudo activity is logged.

The /etc/sudoers file determines which user can use which command with
sudo. (I don't recall what the Debian default is here; I customized my
sudoers file long ago.)

> However, if I log in as a user, and then type su, when it asks 
> for password, I enter the same root password and it takes it.

This is also normal; "su" will really make you root and you can do
whatever you like on the system, therefore you have to know the root
password to use it.

>Getting 
> back to the printer, if I look at /var/log/cups/error.log - it says date-
> time--0400 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer Unauthorized.

I think the first thing to do is to add your user to the "lp" and the
"lpadmin" group, then you will be able to print and to add printers as
your normal user. The command for this is

adduser USERNAME lp
adduser USERNAME lpadmin

You have to run this as root and then you can check your success with

groups USERNAME

Afterwards you have to log out and in again to make the change
effective.

> Not sure what to do about any of this.  I thought I was very careful when 
> I did the initial install to enter twice the password I wanted for root, 
> and I'm quite sure I am entering that same password now.
> 
> So - 'maybe' the inability to set up cups printing to my samba printer is 
> somehow related to the root or administrative password irregularity. I 
> notice that printers.conf is owned by root and the group is lp.  Only 
> root can write to it.

I think there was a problem with your print manager. This may be
resolved by adding your user to those two groups, so you can simply try
again. If that fails you can also try the CUPS HTML frontend

http://localhost:631/

which can be accessed using any browser. Keep in mind that you will have
to provide two different sets of credentials: First you need username
and password for the print server, so that CUPS can authenticate you
whenever you print something, and then you need your local username and
password (or the one of root) because the cups daemon needs to modify
printers.conf. Cupsd can write to

Re: sn9c102 webcam

2007-10-29 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Ivan Glushkov wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I got an old, cheap Qware EasyCam webcam. I have no idea what is the
> model. In the end it does not metter much. I followed the LDP "The
> Webcam HOWTO" on http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/
> Everything looks basically fine up to the point I try to get some
> information from my webcam. Trying to take a snapshot, I get:


Hi Ivan,
I too have a sn9c102 webcam (Trust 120Spacecam) which works, more or less.
Remember this is a v4l2 device. My v4l-info output is like this:
### v4l2 device info [/dev/video0] ###
general info
VIDIOC_QUERYCAP
driver  : "sn9c102"
card: "SN9C1xx PC Camera"
bus_info: "usb-:00:10.0-1"
version : 1.1.44
capabilities: 0x501
[VIDEO_CAPTURE,READWRITE,STREAMING]

standards

inputs
VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT(0)
index   : 0
name: "Camera"
type: CAMERA
audioset: 0
tuner   : 0
std : 0x0 []
status  : 0x0 []

video capture
VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(0,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
index   : 0
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
flags   : 0
description : "bayer rgb"
pixelformat : 0x31384142 [BA81]
VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(1,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
index   : 1
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
flags   : 1
description : "compressed"
pixelformat : 0x30313953 [S910]
VIDIOC_G_FMT(VIDEO_CAPTURE)
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
fmt.pix.width   : 320
fmt.pix.height  : 240
fmt.pix.pixelformat : 0x31384142 [BA81]
fmt.pix.field   : NONE
fmt.pix.bytesperline: 320
fmt.pix.sizeimage   : 76800
fmt.pix.colorspace  : SRGB
fmt.pix.priv: 8

controls
VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+0)
id  : 134217728
type: INTEGER
name: "DAC magnitude"
minimum : 0
maximum : 31
step: 1
default_value   : 1
flags   : 0
VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+1)
id  : 134217729
type: INTEGER
name: "green balance"
minimum : 0
maximum : 62
step: 2
default_value   : 2
flags   : 0

I can't get it to work with streamer either but I don't know much about
streamer and can't be arsed to learn.
The good news is that it does work with Ekiga and AMSN so you might give one
or the other of those programs a try.
Cheers,
Jonathan


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Re: Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 10:30:05AM -0700, Triskal wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> I did a search for my problem, but couldn't find the answer. If I
> overlooked it, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new to Linux (I've used it
> for LaTeX, but not much else, and I'm an absolute novice at installing
> Linux.)
> 
> About my system:
> 
[snip description of SATA based system]
> 
> The problem:
> 
> The installation program didn't recognize either of my two hard discs
> (neither the one with Windows on it nor the new one): "no partitions
> found".

essentially, sarge didn't support SATA.

> 
> Now, I'm currently downloading DVD iso images with Etch on it in the
> hope that Etch can handle SATA hard discs (since Sarge could not). Is
> there any point in doing this (i.e., does Etch still have the same
> problems with SATA discs)? Or what should I do?

etch has *much* better support for SATA, though there are still some
issues. You'll most likely have no problems though. 

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Re: Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
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Triskal wrote:
> Hi there!
> 
> I did a search for my problem, but couldn't find the answer. If I
> overlooked it, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new to Linux (I've used it
> for LaTeX, but not much else, and I'm an absolute novice at installing
> Linux.)
> 
> About my system:
> 
> 1. I have a Dell Dimension 5150 with a 320 GB SATA hard disc; on this
> disk, there is Windows XP (three partitions on the hard disc).
> 
> 2. I bought a new internal hard disc (Samsung SATA2 160 GB
> (HD160/1HJ)) to install Debian Linux on it (Sarge 3.1r0a, which came
> on two DVDs which were part of one of the two main books in German on
> Debian Linux).
> 
> The problem:
> 
> The installation program didn't recognize either of my two hard discs
> (neither the one with Windows on it nor the new one): "no partitions
> found".
> 
> Now, I'm currently downloading DVD iso images with Etch on it in the
> hope that Etch can handle SATA hard discs (since Sarge could not). Is
> there any point in doing this (i.e., does Etch still have the same
> problems with SATA discs)? Or what should I do?

Instead of downloading DVD, you can download a much smaller "netinst" CD image. 
Even if you won't use it for net-install, it will give you an
idea of what hardware is recognized by Etch.

Sarunas

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Re: configuring an external usb mouse wiith x to dynamically connect

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 04:34:38AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
> I have a thinkpad laptop with a trackpoint, touchpad and occasionally an
> external usb mouse. The laptop goes to sleep between uses so X isn't restarted
> much. I want to be able to connect the mouse on occasions, when it was not
> connected when starting X, while still being able to give each device it's own
> configuration.
> 
> Theoretically I would define the touchpad to use /dev/input/mouse0, the
> trackppoint /dev/input/mouse1 and the usb mouse /dev/input/mouse2 (as they 
> do),
> but since mouse2 doesn't exist when X starts I can't connect it unless it was
> connected initially.
> 
> I found a workaround of defining the trackpoint to use /dev/input/mice and the
> touchpad /dev/input/mouse0 so that it can use the synaptic driver, but that is
> not ideal as the trackpoint uses PS/2 or microsoftPS2 and the external mouse
> ImPs/2 (I hope I remember all of these correctly) and I also want different
> options for the mouse and touchpad.
> 
> Is that possible? Windows does it, so I Hope that the answer is yes ...
> Thanks

the things that occurs to me is maybe you can use gpm in repeater mode
to generate mouse events for X. Then use some udev hooks to respawn
gpm when you plug in the external mouse. Then do all the config within
gpm. just a thought.

I swear just yesterday I saw something about changing the mouse on the
fly, but I'll be damned if I can find it now :(

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Re: alsaconf and printing

2007-10-29 Thread Ed
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:50:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 00:02:56 -, Ed wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I am new to Debian but basically I have it running, with at least two
>> problems.  The first is every time I reboot, I have to run alsaconf
>> before I can get any audio.  I haven't noticed any place where I should
>> save anything.  Basically, I just bring up a terminal window, become
>> root, type alsaconf, follow the screens and eventually it tells me id
>> is done and to enjoy using it.  Rhythmbox, for instance, then works
>> perfectly until I reboot.  Then I have to run aslaconf again.
> 
> This sounds like some modules do not get loaded automatically. You can
> run
> 
> lsmod | grep snd
> 
> to compare the situation before and after you run alsaconf. My guess is
> that snd_pcm_oss is missing. A quick test is to run
> 
> modprobe snd_pcm_oss
> 
> as root; this may restore your audio without running alsaconf. You can
> add missing modules to /etc/modules to have them loaded automatically at
> boot time.
> 
>> The 2nd problem is with printing.  I have my printer connected to
>> another computer on my home network that is running samba.  On the
>> debian computer, I choose Desktop->Administration->Printing and Add
>> Printer.  I then follow all the screens (for windows printer (smb)) and
>> it appears everything is fine. It sees my network and the computer the
>> printer is connected to and all seems well until I get to the last
>> screen.  When I hit Apply, this windows closes, and only the original
>> Add printer window is open with no new printer icon.  I am not sure
>> what is happening here. Other computers on my home network print fine
>> through the samba server.
> 
> Check if the file /etc/cups/printers.conf exists; if it does exist then
> you should post it here so we can have a look. WATCH OUT: This file can
> contain clear-text usernames and passwords! Change those to generic
> placeholders ("USERNAME", "PASSWORD") before posting the file.
> 
> --
> Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer
>   Florian   |

Hi Florian,

Following your suggestions below completely fixed my alsa problems.

Now for the printing problem. I do have a file named /etc/cups/
printers.conf but it has no contents. This 'may' be related to another 
problem I just discovered.  If I log out of my user account and attempt 
to log in with user name root and my root password, it won't let me.  It 
keeps re-displaying the enter user name screen.  If I log in as a user, 
and then issue a command with sudo in front of it, it asks for the 
administrative password and I enter my root password that I entered 
during the install process and it says invalid password please try 
again.  However, if I log in as a user, and then type su, when it asks 
for password, I enter the same root password and it takes it.  Getting 
back to the printer, if I look at /var/log/cups/error.log - it says date-
time--0400 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer Unauthorized.

Not sure what to do about any of this.  I thought I was very careful when 
I did the initial install to enter twice the password I wanted for root, 
and I'm quite sure I am entering that same password now.

So - 'maybe' the inability to set up cups printing to my samba printer is 
somehow related to the root or administrative password irregularity. I 
notice that printers.conf is owned by root and the group is lp.  Only 
root can write to it.

Thanks to anyone for any suggestions.

Ed Doyle


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Problems with installing Debian Linux on a SATA hard disc

2007-10-29 Thread Triskal
Hi there!

I did a search for my problem, but couldn't find the answer. If I
overlooked it, I apologize. Also, I'm quite new to Linux (I've used it
for LaTeX, but not much else, and I'm an absolute novice at installing
Linux.)

About my system:

1. I have a Dell Dimension 5150 with a 320 GB SATA hard disc; on this
disk, there is Windows XP (three partitions on the hard disc).

2. I bought a new internal hard disc (Samsung SATA2 160 GB
(HD160/1HJ)) to install Debian Linux on it (Sarge 3.1r0a, which came
on two DVDs which were part of one of the two main books in German on
Debian Linux).

The problem:

The installation program didn't recognize either of my two hard discs
(neither the one with Windows on it nor the new one): "no partitions
found".

Now, I'm currently downloading DVD iso images with Etch on it in the
hope that Etch can handle SATA hard discs (since Sarge could not). Is
there any point in doing this (i.e., does Etch still have the same
problems with SATA discs)? Or what should I do?

Please note that I'm still quite new to Linux. I have used it in the
past to compile LaTeX documents, but that's about it. And I have only
little experience with installing Linux.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Re: going from XFCE to Gnome?

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 03:24:28AM -0700, Michael M. wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-10-20 at 21:12 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > As far as the fam vs. gamin problem is concerned,
> > aptitude figured out the correct course of action all by itself. It
> > proposed to ignore the recommendation of fam by these two packages and
> > to leave fam uninstalled, thus keeping gamin intact on your system, for
> > both XFCE and Gnome to use. All you had to do was to accept the proposed
> > solution.
> > 
> > Running aptitude --without-recommends sidestepped the problem, but now
> > you might be missing some Gnome features which are implemented by other
> > recommended packages.
> 
> 
> I found a few problems on my system (Lenny/testing) after I replaced fam
> with gamin:
> 
> 1)  Menus in OO.org took many seconds to open -- at least 15, perhaps
> 20.  This was extremely irritating and made OO.org a pain to use.

do you perhaps have the openoffice.org-gnome package installed? that
integrates with GnomeVFS and other stuff. You may want to try adding
or removing that package to see if that makes a difference. 

> 
> 2)  The GNOME trash applet no longer updated to show when there were
> items in the trash.  I could no longer empty the trash from the panel.
> Not such a big deal, but I typically have most windows on most desktops
> maximized so I don't usually make use of any icons on the desktop.  So I
> found it convenient to empty the trash from the panel.
> 
> 3)  Nautilus was considerably slower to respond to any attempts to open
> a new window.  The problem wasn't as severe as the problem with OO.org
> 
> Restoring fam and removing gamin put things back to normal. 

just out of curiosity, what other packages got pulled in/out as a
result of this? 


> But the
> reason I installed gamin in the first place is that exaile requires it,
> so in the end I decided to remove a lot of GNOME and am using Openbox
> instead.  OO.org works fine with gamin, as long as you aren't using it
> under GNOME.  If you use it under GNOME, it appears you need fam, or
> will face some major irritation.  I still use the GNOME panel, mainly
> because I love Tomboy and find a few other features of that panel
> appealing, but I no longer use the Trash applet nor the trash bin at
> all.  I'm no longer using Nautilus, though it is still installed.  I can
> get by pretty well with mc and the command line.
> 
> So much for Linux "just working."  When they tell you Linux is "about
> choice," they often forget to mention that you'll find your choices
> restricted by packages and apps that do not play as well together as
> they are supposed to.  GNOME is a really nice DE, but I am sick and
> tired of my choices being restricted by using it.
>

I understand you are frustrated. FWIW, I found things "just work" much
better if you get out of the main DE's. They force lots of stuff on
you in order to set up their environments, but as a result the
possibilities of conflicting are much higher... 

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Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread John Wojnaroski

Bogdan Marian wrote:


John Wojnaroski wrote:


Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hey,

I followed this guide to install the proprietary drivers from 
Nvidia: 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ 
but i have no luck. X won't start if i let the "Driver   "nvidiA"" 
section in xorg.conf untouched.

Can anyone guide me plz?

Bogdan


You need to at least post a copy of your xorg.conf file.  And look in 
/var/log for the log file.  There is a file called X.org.0.log that 
might help show any errors that X encountered when starting.


JW



Hey,

You are right...
Here is my xorg.conf:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  Wed Sep 12 
14:29:35 PDT 2007


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, 
using

# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual 
page.

# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades 
*only*

# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically 
updated

# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Default Layout"
   Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
   InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
   InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"

   # path to defoma fonts
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load   "i2c"
   Load   "bitmap"
   Load   "ddc"
   Load   "extmod"
  Load   "freetype"
   Load   "glx"
   Load   "int10"
   Load   "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
   Driver "kbd"
   Option "CoreKeyboard"
   Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Configured Mouse"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "CorePointer"
   Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
   Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Generic Monitor"
   HorizSync   28.0 - 64.0
   VertRefresh 43.0 - 60.0
   Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"

#   Driver "nvidia"
   Identifier "Generic Video Card"
   Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Default Screen"
   Device "Generic Video Card"
   Monitor"Generic Monitor"
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   1
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   4
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   8
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   15
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   16
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   24
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection



What i can find in the log is :
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver 
not found)


Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, 
removing from list!
Could not init font path element 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!



Bogdan

Off hand, nothing jumps out at me regards the xorg.conf file.  That 
error msg should not have crashed X, per se.  Check further down and see 
if the Nvidia card is properly identified as to to type and PCI address; 
for an AGP card usually PCI:1:0:0


Can

Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread Bogdan Marian

John Wojnaroski wrote:

Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hey,

I followed this guide to install the proprietary drivers from Nvidia: 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ 
but i have no luck. X won't start if i let the "Driver   "nvidiA"" 
section in xorg.conf untouched.

Can anyone guide me plz?

Bogdan


You need to at least post a copy of your xorg.conf file.  And look in 
/var/log for the log file.  There is a file called X.org.0.log that 
might help show any errors that X encountered when starting.


JW



Hey,

You are right...
Here is my xorg.conf:

# nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
# nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  Wed Sep 12 
14:29:35 PDT 2007


# /etc/X11/xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#
# This file was generated by dexconf, the Debian X Configuration tool, using
# values from the debconf database.
#
# Edit this file with caution, and see the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manual page.
# (Type "man /etc/X11/xorg.conf" at the shell prompt.)
#
# This file is automatically updated on xserver-xorg package upgrades *only*
# if it has not been modified since the last upgrade of the xserver-xorg
# package.
#
# If you have edited this file but would like it to be automatically updated
# again, run the following command:
#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "ServerLayout"
   Identifier "Default Layout"
   Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
   InputDevice"Generic Keyboard"
   InputDevice"Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Files"

   # path to defoma fonts
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi"
   FontPath"/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
   FontPath"/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load   "i2c"
   Load   "bitmap"
   Load   "ddc"
   Load   "extmod"
  Load   "freetype"
   Load   "glx"
   Load   "int10"
   Load   "vbe"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
   Driver "kbd"
   Option "CoreKeyboard"
   Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
   Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
   Option "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
   Identifier "Configured Mouse"
   Driver "mouse"
   Option "CorePointer"
   Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
   Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
   Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier "Generic Monitor"
   HorizSync   28.0 - 64.0
   VertRefresh 43.0 - 60.0
   Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"

#   Driver "nvidia"
   Identifier "Generic Video Card"
   Driver "nvidia"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier "Default Screen"
   Device "Generic Video Card"
   Monitor"Generic Monitor"
   DefaultDepth24
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   1
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   4
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
 EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   8
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   15
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   16
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   24
   Modes  "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
   EndSubSection
EndSection



What i can find in the log is :
(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not 
found)


Could not init font path element /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, removing 
from list!
Could not init font path element 
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, removing from list!



Bogdan


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Re: 2.3.0 ooffice

2007-10-29 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
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Pavel SRB wrote:
> hi all
> 
> as i am still fighting with oofice, i was thinking about getting the
> newest version. Now I have 2.4.0 downloaded via apt-get. I was searching
> for a while internet, about new sources to my /etc/apt/sources.list to
> have 2.3.0 available. Here i found that this version is available as
> experimental.
> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/openoffice.org
> 
> so i add to my list
> 
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
> 
> but after
> apt-get update
> i still get answer i already have newest.
> 
> did i add this experimental line correctly?
> 

The line is correct. You can check on what Debian "thinks" about ooffice 
versions (given your sources.list) by:

apt-cache policy openoffice.org

Then you might be able to install the needed version by, for example:

apt-get install openoffice.org=

or

apt-get install -t  openoffice.org

OOo though has a lot of dependencies, so there might be quite a few 
packages/libraries to reinstall. And some libraries might be essential to
other parts of your system...

Sarunas
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Re: intall nvidia driver on debian lenny]

2007-10-29 Thread John Wojnaroski



Bogdan Marian wrote:


Hey,

I followed this guide to install the proprietary drivers from Nvidia: 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ 
but i have no luck. X won't start if i let the "Driver   "nvidiA"" 
section in xorg.conf untouched.

Can anyone guide me plz?

Bogdan


You need to at least post a copy of your xorg.conf file.  And look in 
/var/log for the log file.  There is a file called X.org.0.log that 
might help show any errors that X encountered when starting.


JW




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intall nvidia driver on debian lenny

2007-10-29 Thread Bogdan Marian

Hey,

I followed this guide to install the proprietary drivers from Nvidia: 
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/10/27/how-to-install-nvidia-video-card-drivers-in-debian-lenny/ 
but i have no luck. X won't start if i let the "Driver   "nvidiA"" 
section in xorg.conf untouched.

Can anyone guide me plz?

Bogdan


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Re: 2.3.0 ooffice

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:20:44PM +0100, Pavel SRB wrote:
> hi all
>
> as i am still fighting with oofice, i was thinking about getting the newest 
> version. Now I have 2.4.0 downloaded via apt-get. I was searching for a 
> while internet, about new sources to my /etc/apt/sources.list to have 2.3.0 
> available. Here i found that this version is available as experimental.
> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/openoffice.org
>
> so i add to my list
>
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free
>
> but after
> apt-get update

that only updates the list of available packages *and* if 2.4 is what
you really have (where did you get that? I've only got 2.2.1-10
available here), then it's newer than 2.3 and won't get replced by the
older version. You'll have to remove it and then install with 

apt-get -t experimental install openoffice.org

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Re: Silly question: Where's eth0?

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:08:06PM +, Joe wrote:
> Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>> anyway, I didn't mean to offend, and I apologise.
>
> No offence taken, no apology necessary. If you can't talk straight on 
> Usenet, where can you? There's a fairly broad line between robust 
> discussion and deliberate insult, which isn't often crossed here.
>

:)

the first rule of usenet is...

;-)

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2.3.0 ooffice

2007-10-29 Thread Pavel SRB

hi all

as i am still fighting with oofice, i was thinking about getting the 
newest version. Now I have 2.4.0 downloaded via apt-get. I was searching 
for a while internet, about new sources to my /etc/apt/sources.list to 
have 2.3.0 available. Here i found that this version is available as 
experimental.

http://packages.debian.org/experimental/editors/openoffice.org

so i add to my list

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free

but after
apt-get update
i still get answer i already have newest.

did i add this experimental line correctly?

thank you

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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
>>  >
>>
>>> If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to
>>> act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I
>>> have
>>> updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What about TERM=screen ?
>>
>> Doug
> Same thing.  It does not like the vertical lines.  Actually, it does not
> like the right hand vertical lines.  The left side appears to be working
> fine.
>
> Jeff

Where should I put the 'export LC_ALL=C' command so it is always done for
each login and for each user?  The /etc/bash.bashrc file?

Thanks,
Jeff


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Re: New Server

2007-10-29 Thread ieb
On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 13:59, Ed Curtis wrote:
> I'm getting ready to build a new server. Has anyone on the list had any 
> problems or used Silicon Mechanics before. I'm checking out some quotes 
> from there. They use Nvida MCP55 Pro dual nics in their system. I 
> thought I had heard about problems with Nvida nics in the past on the 
> list but Google hasn't given me any bad new about them.
> 
> TIA for any info,
> 
> Ed
> 


I ted using NVidia with my new box when I first set it up a couple of
months back (using 'testing').I never did get it to work reliably
even with the help of many folks from this list.   

I eventually ditched it after having wasted more than 2 weeks of effort
and much frustration.

So,  my advice would be  don't waste your time with it.

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Re: New Server

2007-10-29 Thread Ed Curtis

David A. Parker wrote:

Ed Curtis wrote:
I'm getting ready to build a new server. Has anyone on the list had 
any problems or used Silicon Mechanics before. I'm checking out some 
quotes from there. They use Nvida MCP55 Pro dual nics in their 
system. I thought I had heard about problems with Nvida nics in the 
past on the list but Google hasn't given me any bad new about them.


TIA for any info,

Ed



Hi,

I recently built a box with an onboard Nvidia NIC, and it didn't work 
under Etch.  I spent several days Googling and troubleshooting it 
until I finally gave up and installed a PCI NIC I knew would work.  
The problem seemed to boil down to the fact that the forcedeth driver 
was not able to query to NIC properly to get its MAC address, so it 
would just assign a random MAC address to it instead.  Because of 
this, the NIC got a different device designation (eth0, eth1, etc.) 
each time the computer booted, and it wasn't possible to use udev to 
fix it since the MAC address was always different.


One of my Google searches brought up a post that said this was fixed 
in the forcedeth driver in testing, but I didn't try it.


- Dave

Sounds like I'll just add a Intel Pro/1000 Dual Port adapter to it then 
and not worry about the Nvidia nic.


Ed


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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> >>> I wish a way to print the
>> >>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.


Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> >> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
>> >> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.


Rodolfo:
 
>> > Every file is like this:
>> >
>> > BEGIN:VCARD
>> > VERSION:2.1
>> > N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
>> > TEL;CELL:3391234567
>> > TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
>> > FN:Oliver Hardy
>> > END:VCARD
>> >
>> > , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like that?


"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> > So, assume that anything is possible:
>> >
>> > 1. What do you want to do?


Rodolfo:
 
>> I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above entries, I
>> don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words like
>> `BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.


Douglas:
 
>> > 2. In what language do you want to do it?


Rodolfo:
 
>> This is the same for me.


Douglas:

> What I mean is, in which programming language(s) are you proficient?



None.
Rodolfo


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Re: New Server

2007-10-29 Thread David A. Parker

Ed Curtis wrote:
I'm getting ready to build a new server. Has anyone on the list had any 
problems or used Silicon Mechanics before. I'm checking out some quotes 
from there. They use Nvida MCP55 Pro dual nics in their system. I 
thought I had heard about problems with Nvida nics in the past on the 
list but Google hasn't given me any bad new about them.


TIA for any info,

Ed



Hi,

I recently built a box with an onboard Nvidia NIC, and it didn't work 
under Etch.  I spent several days Googling and troubleshooting it until 
I finally gave up and installed a PCI NIC I knew would work.  The 
problem seemed to boil down to the fact that the forcedeth driver was 
not able to query to NIC properly to get its MAC address, so it would 
just assign a random MAC address to it instead.  Because of this, the 
NIC got a different device designation (eth0, eth1, etc.) each time the 
computer booted, and it wasn't possible to use udev to fix it since the 
MAC address was always different.


One of my Google searches brought up a post that said this was fixed in 
the forcedeth driver in testing, but I didn't try it.


- Dave

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tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed

2007-10-29 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Could someone please let me know what this is supposed to mean:

tetex-base: Conflicts: jadetex (<= 3.13-6) but 3.13-6 is to be installed

Command:

$ sudo apt-get  install  docbook-utils jadetex tetex-bin tetex-extra tetex-base

on debian oldstable (sarge)

Thanks


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Re: MACBook + USB-UMTS

2007-10-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Michael,

Ich selber verwende jetzt ein "Nokia 6120 classic" welches mich 225 Euro
in DE gekostet hat.  Es unterstützt USB 2.0, GPRS, E-GPRS, EDGE, UMTS/3G
sowie HSDPA (1,8, 3,6 und 7,2 MBit).  Ich kann es nur empfehlen.

Anm.: Deine Frage ist besser auf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  da diese Liste nur englischsprachig ist.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian GNU/Linux Consultant



Am 2007-10-24 01:07:09, schrieb Michael Post:
> Hallo Listenbewohner,
> 
> ich benötige für mein MacBook, auf dem das aktuellste Debian läuft,
> eine UMTS-Karte mit Tarif.
> Was könnt Ihr empfehlen?
> Leider hat das MacBook keinen PCMCIA-Slot und wenn ich das richtig
> sehe, dann kostet so ein Adapter auch gleich schlappe 150,00€ :-(
> 
> Was für UMTS-USB-Produkte könnt Ihr empfehlen. Ich bin derzeit schon t-
> mobile-kunde und möchte - sofern der Preis stimmt, gerne dabei
> bleiben. Wenn Ihr mir etwas anderes Empfehlen könnt, was unter Debian
> mit USB läuft sehr gerne.
> 
> Welche Erfahrungen habt Ihr schon gemacht?
> 
> Vielen Dank
> 
> Michael
> 
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Re: Etch and Audio CDs

2007-10-29 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2007-10-26 15:45:56, schrieb steef:
> Michelle Konzack wrote:
> >  However, I have riped all...
> >  
> *how* ?

cdda2wav

...and leave it running up to the time when it exited
normaly after writing 100 errors on my console.

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Re: debian repositories - connection refused

2007-10-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [071029 08:49]:
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 22:25:15 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > A day or two ago I began getting a "111 connection refused" error when
> > attempting to access the debian repositories with Synaptic.  
> > 
> > The command "aptitude update" also hangs.
> > 
> > However, Internet access with browser and mail appears to be normal.
> > 
> > Can someone recommend a diagnostic procedure?
> 
> Can you ping/traceroute the mirror?

I could ping the mirror.

I found what appears to be the problem:  a few days ago I was browsing
packages and installed "anon-proxy", because it looked interesting.
But I never did figure out how to configure and use anon-proxy.  

Uninstalling the package solved the problem, but I do not understand
why it interfered only with the Debian repository.

Thanks, Florian.

RLH



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New Server

2007-10-29 Thread Ed Curtis
I'm getting ready to build a new server. Has anyone on the list had any 
problems or used Silicon Mechanics before. I'm checking out some quotes 
from there. They use Nvida MCP55 Pro dual nics in their system. I 
thought I had heard about problems with Nvida nics in the past on the 
list but Google hasn't given me any bad new about them.


TIA for any info,

Ed


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Re: mutt and IMAP accounts

2007-10-29 Thread Ric Otte


On Oct 29, 2007, at 6:28 AM, Nicolas KOWALSKI wrote:


On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:16:47AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
I tried both of these.  Now when I type 'c' I get a suggested  
mailbox to go
to (one with new mail), but if I type a '?' I am given a list of  
mailboxes,

such as:
1 IMAP +al/
2 IMAP +bob/
etc.

 but if I select one of them, I simply get:

1   IMAP../


Does hitting  instead of  to select the mailbox helps ?

See, http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.11 "Folder
browser".



That's it!  It works fine with .  I hadn't quite understood  
that with IMAP there is a difference between the  selection key and  
the view-file key.


Thanks,
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Re: debian repositories - connection refused

2007-10-29 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 22:25:15 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> A day or two ago I began getting a "111 connection refused" error when
> attempting to access the debian repositories with Synaptic.  
> 
> The command "aptitude update" also hangs.
> 
> However, Internet access with browser and mail appears to be normal.
> 
> Can someone recommend a diagnostic procedure?

Can you ping/traceroute the mirror?

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Re: Best Kernel?

2007-10-29 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 10/29/07 08:06, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:17:52AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>  
>>> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
>>>
 On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:12:21PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras
 wrote:
  
> Well, if you install the 32bit userland + 64bit kernel + X.Org it wont
> work. :-)
> 
 Huh?  Perhaps you should send the message to the amd64 list.  Someone
 there is probably doing this.

 Doug.
   
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
>>> system and then end up with a running system.?
>>>
>>> I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
>>> had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit.
>>> Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
>>> that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)
>>> 
>>
>> I believe that you can install a 64bit kernel on you i386 system.
>> Assuming that you have room in /boot and /lib, just add the 64-bit
>> kernel and keep your 486 (or whatever) and try it.  If it doesn't boot,
>> then choose the 486 from the grub menu.
>>
>> You can even run i386 apps in an amd64 system as long as you have the
>> i386 libs installed (available as a regular package in amd64).
>>
>> Doug.
>>   
> Would I gain anything running a 64bit kernel on an i386 system?

An unbootable system?

But then, what *exactly* do you mean by "an i386 system"?

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Re: mutt and IMAP accounts

2007-10-29 Thread Nicolas KOWALSKI
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:16:47AM -0700, Ric Otte wrote:
>> I tried both of these.  Now when I type 'c' I get a suggested mailbox to go 
> to (one with new mail), but if I type a '?' I am given a list of mailboxes, 
> such as:
> 1 IMAP +  al/
> 2 IMAP +bob/
> etc.
>
>  but if I select one of them, I simply get:
>
> 1 IMAP../

Does hitting  instead of  to select the mailbox helps ?

See, http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html#ss4.11 "Folder 
browser".

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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 >  
  
If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to 
act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I have 
updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.





What about TERM=screen ?

Doug
Same thing.  It does not like the vertical lines.  Actually, it does not 
like the right hand vertical lines.  The left side appears to be working 
fine.


Jeff


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Re: mutt and IMAP accounts

2007-10-29 Thread Ric Otte


On Oct 29, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Martin Marcher wrote:



see the check_subscribed option in the manual (imap_check_subscribed,
imap_list_subscribed may also be what you want)
less /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz

hth
martin


I tried both of these.  Now when I type 'c' I get a suggested mailbox  
to go to (one with new mail), but if I type a '?' I am given a list  
of mailboxes, such as:

1 IMAP +al/
2 IMAP +bob/
etc.

 but if I select one of them, I simply get:

1   IMAP../

If I select that one, I get the same list of mailboxes above.  I am  
then in an endless loop, and get out of it by typing 'y'.


Thanks,
Ric


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
 >  
> If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to 
> act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I have 
> updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.
> 

What about TERM=screen ?

Doug.


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Re: Best Kernel?

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:17:52AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
  

On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:


On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:12:21PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
  

Well, if you install the 32bit userland + 64bit kernel + X.Org it wont
work. :-)


Huh?  Perhaps you should send the message to the amd64 list.  Someone
there is probably doing this.

Doug.
  

Hi Doug,

Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
system and then end up with a running system.?

I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit. 


Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)



I believe that you can install a 64bit kernel on you i386 system.
Assuming that you have room in /boot and /lib, just add the 64-bit
kernel and keep your 486 (or whatever) and try it.  If it doesn't boot,
then choose the 486 from the grub menu.

You can even run i386 apps in an amd64 system as long as you have the
i386 libs installed (available as a regular package in amd64).

Doug.
  

Would I gain anything running a 64bit kernel on an i386 system?

Jeff


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:43:54AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
  

On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:

  
I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet 
or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude 
or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. 
I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like 
to take a look and tell me what I have configured wrong.


http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg

That looks similar to some things I saw when SSH'ing from a Mac OSX 
machine to a Debian system and running Aptitude.


Switching the Mac's Terminal application over to using "xterm-color" 
for the terminal type, straightened it right up.


Even if you're not on a Mac, it's a problem with the terminal 
emulation of the machine you're on, and what the terminal emulation is 
set up as on the Debian machine in $TERM in the shell.


You can probably find a combination that works properly though, if you 
hunt a bit.  Don't forget to "reset" in the shell each time you change 
your terminal emulation on your machine you're testing from, if you're 
not disconnecting and reconnecting.


  
What I am confused about is I am running the exact same terminal in both 
Debian and the client as I did in Gentoo and I had the lines drawn in 
mc.  I am using the linux terminal.  When I run 'echo $TERM' it says 
linux and my client says linux which I have not changed from when I 
connected to Gentoo.


I just connected to a Gentoo box to make sure I am correct, and yes, I 
echo the term and it says linux and the lines are drawn in mc.  I just 
don't know where my configuration is different.



I run into this going from one of the BSDs, even if they have a
TERM=linux, it doesn't work.  I have found that TERM=screen works just
fine, as long as locale=C (don't know about matching other locales).

TERM=screen works since all the OSs I use have GNU screen as a package
and will need it to work.

Doug.

  
If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to 
act the same.  The display is much better but still not perfect.  I have 
updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.


Thank you for your suggestion.

Jeff


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Re: Best Kernel?

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:17:52AM -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:12:21PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
> > > Well, if you install the 32bit userland + 64bit kernel + X.Org it wont
> > > work. :-)
> > 
> > Huh?  Perhaps you should send the message to the amd64 list.  Someone
> > there is probably doing this.
> > 
> > Doug.
> 
> Hi Doug,
> 
> Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
> system and then end up with a running system.?
> 
> I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
> had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit. 
> 
> Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
> that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)

I believe that you can install a 64bit kernel on you i386 system.
Assuming that you have room in /boot and /lib, just add the 64-bit
kernel and keep your 486 (or whatever) and try it.  If it doesn't boot,
then choose the 486 from the grub menu.

You can even run i386 apps in an amd64 system as long as you have the
i386 libs installed (available as a regular package in amd64).

Doug.


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 05:43:54AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:
> >
> >>I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet 
> >>or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude 
> >>or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. 
> >>I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like 
> >>to take a look and tell me what I have configured wrong.
> >>
> >>http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg
> >
> >
> >That looks similar to some things I saw when SSH'ing from a Mac OSX 
> >machine to a Debian system and running Aptitude.
> >
> >Switching the Mac's Terminal application over to using "xterm-color" 
> >for the terminal type, straightened it right up.
> >
> >Even if you're not on a Mac, it's a problem with the terminal 
> >emulation of the machine you're on, and what the terminal emulation is 
> >set up as on the Debian machine in $TERM in the shell.
> >
> >You can probably find a combination that works properly though, if you 
> >hunt a bit.  Don't forget to "reset" in the shell each time you change 
> >your terminal emulation on your machine you're testing from, if you're 
> >not disconnecting and reconnecting.
> >
> What I am confused about is I am running the exact same terminal in both 
> Debian and the client as I did in Gentoo and I had the lines drawn in 
> mc.  I am using the linux terminal.  When I run 'echo $TERM' it says 
> linux and my client says linux which I have not changed from when I 
> connected to Gentoo.
> 
> I just connected to a Gentoo box to make sure I am correct, and yes, I 
> echo the term and it says linux and the lines are drawn in mc.  I just 
> don't know where my configuration is different.

I run into this going from one of the BSDs, even if they have a
TERM=linux, it doesn't work.  I have found that TERM=screen works just
fine, as long as locale=C (don't know about matching other locales).

TERM=screen works since all the OSs I use have GNU screen as a package
and will need it to work.

Doug.


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Tim Gruene wrote:

It might help to use a standard language setting, like
 export LC_ALL=C
before you start the command.


On Sun, 28 Oct 2007, Jeff Grossman wrote:

I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet 
or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude 
or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. 
I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like 
to take a look and tell me what I have configured wrong.


http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg

Thanks,
Jeff





That is better, but I still have some funky characters.  The new picture 
is at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg.


Thanks for your help so far.

Jeff


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Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff Grossman

Nate Duehr wrote:


On Oct 28, 2007, at 10:37 PM, Jeff Grossman wrote:

I do all of my administration on my Debian system using either Telnet 
or SSH from a remote computer. But, when I run programs like aptitude 
or mc it does not show any lines just funky characters for the lines. 
I did a screen shot and put it up on my webpage if anybody would like 
to take a look and tell me what I have configured wrong.


http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay.jpg



That looks similar to some things I saw when SSH'ing from a Mac OSX 
machine to a Debian system and running Aptitude.


Switching the Mac's Terminal application over to using "xterm-color" 
for the terminal type, straightened it right up.


Even if you're not on a Mac, it's a problem with the terminal 
emulation of the machine you're on, and what the terminal emulation is 
set up as on the Debian machine in $TERM in the shell.


You can probably find a combination that works properly though, if you 
hunt a bit.  Don't forget to "reset" in the shell each time you change 
your terminal emulation on your machine you're testing from, if you're 
not disconnecting and reconnecting.


What I am confused about is I am running the exact same terminal in both 
Debian and the client as I did in Gentoo and I had the lines drawn in 
mc.  I am using the linux terminal.  When I run 'echo $TERM' it says 
linux and my client says linux which I have not changed from when I 
connected to Gentoo.


I just connected to a Gentoo box to make sure I am correct, and yes, I 
echo the term and it says linux and the lines are drawn in mc.  I just 
don't know where my configuration is different.


Jeff


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Re: Intel Framebuffer doesn't work on notebook

2007-10-29 Thread Marco
On 29 Ott, 11:00, Dieter Faulbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> intelfb: Video mode must be programmed at boot time.
> intelfb: cleanup

I also tried to enable intelfb on my laptop but didin't find a way out, 
perhaps because I didn't include all necessary dependant module in my 
initrd.
I noticed that the warning: "Video mode must be programmed at boot time" 
goes off if you specify vga=xxx (791 in my case) in the grub command line.
Try and let us know.


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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:12:06PM +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >>> I wish a way to print the
> >>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.
> 
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
> >> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.
> 
> Rodolfo:
> 
> > Every file is like this:
> >
> > BEGIN:VCARD
> > VERSION:2.1
> > N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> > TEL;CELL:3391234567
> > TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
> > FN:Oliver Hardy
> > END:VCARD
> >
> > , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like that?
> 
> Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > What are the filenames?
> 
> They're numbers: 115, 116,... 392,...
> 
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Well its possible.  The how is back to your choice of language.
> 
> > If you just want a list printed, assuming that there is at least a blank
> > line at the top or bottom of every file, you could just cat them
> > together then print the file.  It won't be sorted unless the file names
> > are sorted already.
> 
> The file names are not sorted.
> 
> > So, assume that anything is possible:
> >
> > 1.  What do you want to do?
> 
> I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above entries, I
> don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words like
> `BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.
> 
> > 2.  In what language do you want to do it?
> 
> This is the same for me.

What I mean is, in which programming language(s) are you proficient?

If it were me, I'd write a Python script.

Doug.


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Re: GLIBC_2.4

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 09:48:00PM +1100, hce wrote:
Jim

Don't top post and don't send sources.list as an attachment

> 
> On 10/29/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:31PM +1100, hce wrote:
> > >
> > > I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I
> > > searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian
> > > package contains the GLIBC_2.4?
> > >
> > > Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to
> > > download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not
> > > find it.
> >
> > Send us your sources list.  Something is strange.  Etch's libc6 is at
> > 2.3.6 and is a required package, there is no 2.4.

> Thanks for your response, please find attached my sources.list

I've un-attached it and pasted it here for discussion.
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 
20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-2 
20070407-11:55]/ etch main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r0 _Etch_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1 
20070407-11:55]/ etch contrib main

# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib

Well, you only have two binary CDs and the security lines.

Try adding a normal mirror line so that you have access to the full
repository.

Then do an aptitude update and try again.

Doug.


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Re: USB external hard drive spin down problem

2007-10-29 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:15:44AM -0400, Marty wrote:
> Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 09:47:58PM -0400, Marty wrote:
> >>On my Etch system a new Western Digital USB external hard drive seems to 
> >>be automatically spinning itself down after a period of inactivity, and 
> >>causing the USB controller to become unresponsive to all USB devices 
> >>until the system is rebooted.
> >>
> >>I don't see any other problems.  Based on my web search, it seems to be 
> >>an old issue in Debian and some spinoff distros, with no clear 
> >>resolutions that I could find.  The exact behavior has been reported 
> >>several times, but rarely and few of the reports are recent.  My current 
> >>workaround is to keep the drive busy while I am using it.  I am hoping 
> >>that there is some configuration or tool that resolves or works around 
> >>this problem, which I am not aware of.
> >
> >Try hdparm to turn off the drive's auto-spindown.  
> >
> 
> # hdparm -S0 /dev/sdb

I don't have it installed right now, but don't you have to tell hdparm
(with a param) that its a scsi or something (even though it should
figure that out with /dev/sdb)?  Anyway, from what I remember, you're
missing a param.

> 
> /dev/sdb:
>  setting standby to 0 (off)
>  HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(setidle1) failed: Invalid argument
> 
> I think you are on right track.  I want the sdparm equivalent but I don't 
> see anything in the sdparm man or info page.
 


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Re: GLIBC_2.4

2007-10-29 Thread hyjial
Hi !
First of all, according to your soources.list, you
only have access to the security updates and not to
the main debian archives. That's why you cannot
download and thus install postfix-dev.
Add these lines in your sources.list :
deb ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian etch main contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.XX.debian.org/debian etch main
contrib
where XX is the two-character identifier of the
closest country housing a mirror. Have a look at :
http://www.fr.debian.org/mirrors/list
for the complete list of the debian mirrors.
The deb-src line is only necessary if you need to
build packages from source.
To have your database up to date, type : apt-get
update.
This might not be the solution to your GLIBC_2.4
problem, but doubtlessly the one for your postfix-dev
one.
Just try and tell us.
H.
P.S. : your sources.list was small enough to be
directly included in the E-mail. No real need for attachment.


  
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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> I managed to sync my mobile phone to the PC with opensync, so I copied the
>> Contacts into the file system.
>>
>> Then I fetched them with Evolution, but I don't like the way it prints them
>> out, and it doesn't seem to be customizable.



Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you imported the contacts into evolution, then you should be able to export
> them in csv format. (I think you should be able to, I have not tried) Then
> just import it into some spreadsheet, format it the way you like and print it.



I tried, but apparently it's not possible to export them in csv format.

Thank you
Rodolfo


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Re: Contacts printing

2007-10-29 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>> I wish a way to print the
>>> Contacts (about 300) that I have stored in a directory, one per file.


"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I think you just need to write a script in your favorite language to
>> parse the files and format it to your liking then just print it out.


Rodolfo:

> Every file is like this:
>
> BEGIN:VCARD
> VERSION:2.1
> N:;Oliver Hardy ;;;
> TEL;CELL:3391234567
> TEL;VOICE;HOME:081123567
> FN:Oliver Hardy
> END:VCARD
>
> , so the major problem would be sorting: how to sort whole items like that?



Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What are the filenames?

They're numbers: 115, 116,... 392,...



"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well its possible.  The how is back to your choice of language.  If you
> want to use grep, you could just rgrep them or something.

Grep is to search for string within files, how can it do sorting jobs?


> If you just want a list printed, assuming that there is at least a blank
> line at the top or bottom of every file, you could just cat them
> together then print the file.  It won't be sorted unless the file names
> are sorted already.


The file names are not sorted.


> So, assume that anything is possible:
>
> 1.What do you want to do?


I want to cat all those file into one file and then sort the above entries, I
don't know how.  I also want to eliminate redundant symbols and words like
`BEGIN:VCARD', `END:VCARD', `N:;', `VERSION:2.1' etc.


> 2.In what language do you want to do it?


This is the same for me.

Thanks indeed for your help
Rodolfo


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Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller

2007-10-29 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 07:10:08PM +0100, Andraz Sraka wrote:

On Sun, 2007-10-28 at 12:50 +0100, Maarten Vink wrote:
Add deb ftp://ftp.sara.nl/pub/sara-omsa dell sara to /etc/apt/ 

Setting up openipmi (2.0.7-1) ...
Setting up dellomsa (5.2.0-2) ...
Checking that /etc/ld.so.conf contains required paths...
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/dataeng/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/hapi/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/oma/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/omsa/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/shared/bin
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm
Adding to /etc/ld.so.conf: /opt/dell/srvadmin/sm/dellvl
Loading kernel modules
Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: * 
Starting dataengine

Starting Systems Management Device Drivers:
Starting ipmi driver: * 
dpkg: error processing dellomsa (--configure):

subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
dellomsa
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)


This is not normal. I’m using dellomsa in this version on different Dell 
PE1950 and PE2950 systems (AMD64) without problems. You don’t see, what 
problems there are. You could dig through 
/var/lib/dpkg/info/dellomsa.postinst to see what it does.


From my experience you need the following kernel options:
# IPMI
CONFIG_IPMI_HANDLER=m
CONFIG_IPMI_PANIC_EVENT=y
CONFIG_IPMI_PANIC_STRING=y
CONFIG_IPMI_DEVICE_INTERFACE=m
CONFIG_IPMI_SI=m
CONFIG_IPMI_WATCHDOG=m
CONFIG_IPMI_POWEROFF=m

It wouldn’t work compiled into the kernel, they need to be modules.
And Dell kernel options:
CONFIG_DELL_RBU=m
CONFIG_DCDBAS=m
must be modules as well (they are not really needed for OMSA).

Shade and sweet water!

Stephan

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Re: fetchmail authorization failure

2007-10-29 Thread Haines Brown
I just wanted to close this discussion and indicate that the problem
was solved.

I use two web hosting services, Omnis, which is good and supports
Linux, and Interland/Web.com, which did not officially support Linux,
but did the best it could. Over the years the quality of its technical
support has plummeted.

They sent out an e-mail notice that it was moving to SSL for mail, but
the message was marked up in HTML, and so difficult to read. Because
it started out very much like an advertisement for some proprietary
service I didn't want, I didn't trouble to read the whole thing.

So, out of the blue, I lost any connection to the POP and SMTP
servers. Since then I have aquired the information needed to restore
e-mail service.

As for K's suggestion, I already planned to migrate from RMAIL to mutt
when the opportunity arose.  

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Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller

2007-10-29 Thread Andraz Sraka
re

On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 05:18 -0400, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Are they proprietry? If not, you can get the rpm and use the Debian
> package "alien" to convert it.

yes, but still what to install? I've tried with dellomsa_5.x, but
without any luck at all. 

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Re: mouse emulation with X

2007-10-29 Thread Haines Brown
xpol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> How to move the pointer across the screen, using keyobard combinations?
> I remember there were X deafult keys. Any hints?
> How to customize keys?
> 
> Thank you 
> 
> --
> Pol 

Pol,
 
I'm sorry to be so tardy in replying to your query.

Back in ca 2000 one could control the mouse pointer by issuing the
command Shft-NumLock. I found at that time that the acceleration of
the cursor movement was broken, which made the feature rather
useless. I installed xkbset, but only managed to change the value of
key acceleration in general without actually enabling the acceleration
of the cursor movement.

Your query caused me to look into the issue again. There's a xkbset
package that provides accessibility features for the X Window System
which includes MouseKeys. If you install that package and do $ xkbset
m, you get control of the cursor from the keypad (the keys 1-7 are
like a compass to provide movement direction). Acceleration now works
nicely. The command $ xkbd -m turns MouseKeys off.

The middle key (5) seems to have changed its function. I now find that
it is the equivalent of the LMB, and so if the pointer is moved over a
button, typing 5 from the keypad has the effect of clicking the left
mouse button. I don't know where the operation of MouseKeys is
documented.

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Re: GLIBC_2.4

2007-10-29 Thread hce
Hi Doug,

Thanks for your response, please find attached my sources.list

Thank you.

Jim

On 10/29/07, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 01:02:31PM +1100, hce wrote:
> >
> > I am installing mutt and got an error of "GLIBC_2.4 is missing", I
> > searched the Debian package, but could not found it. Which of Debian
> > package contains the GLIBC_2.4?
> >
> > Also, which http source should I add it to the source.list? I tried to
> > download postfix-dev by apt-get install postfix-dev, but could not
> > find it.
>
> Send us your sources list.  Something is strange.  Etch's libc6 is at
> 2.3.6 and is a required package, there is no 2.4.
>
> Doug.
>
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Intel Framebuffer doesn't work on notebook

2007-10-29 Thread Dieter Faulbaum

I have a Notebook with an Intel VGA-Controller and the
framebuffer will not work. Any idea what could be wrong?
What does the line mean 'Video mode must be programmed at boot time'?
How can I do this? There is no parameter, which I can give in the
'make menuconfig' process.

The controller is ('lspci | grep VGA'):
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML 
Express Graphics Controller (rev 03)

The command line (in grub) is:
root=/dev/hda3 ro video=intelfb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] resume=/dev/hda6

And the relevant part of dmesg:
intelfb: options: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
intelfb: intelfb_pci_register
ACPI: PCI Interrupt :00:02.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
intelfb: fb aperture: 0xc000/0x1000, MMIO region: 0xb008/0x8
intelfb: 00:02.0: Intel(R) 915GM, aperture size 256MB, stolen memory 7932kB
intelfb: fb: 0xc000(+ 0x0)/0x7bf000 (0xf8a0)
intelfb: MMIO: 0xb008/0x8 (0xfc20)
intelfb: ring buffer: 0xc3001000/0x1 (0xfba01000)
intelfb: HW cursor: 0x0/0x0 (0x) (offset 0x0) (phys 0x0)
intelfb: options: vram = 4, accel = 1, hwcursor = 0, fixed = 0, noinit = 0
intelfb: options: mode = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
intelfb: Non-CRT device is enabled ( LVDS port ).  Disabling mode switching.
intelfb: Video mode must be programmed at boot time.
intelfb: cleanup


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CenterIcq / CenterIM: execute commands from within an away-message

2007-10-29 Thread Albrecht Wenzel
Hello!

Long ago I switched from Licq to CenterICQ (CenterIM, respectively) and
always wanted to know how to execute commands from within an away message.
In licq this can be done with a pipe ("|") at the beginning of a line. "|
fortune" for example, executes fortune each time a user reads the away
message, thus reading a random fortune message.
I didn't find anything about it, except some people having scripted
something.
I didn't have the time to have a closer look at some of these scripts,
though.

To cut a long story short: I wanted to know, if scripting is the only way to
execute e.g. fortune out of the away message or is there a way to specify
commands (e.g. with a pipe or an apostrophe?)

mfg Albrecht


Re: going from etch to unstable (sid)

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 28, 2007 at 01:47:55PM +, Bogdan Marian wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> The title says it all :). How do i proceed if i want to upgrade from 
> Etch to Sid? Of course, burning a Sid image and doing a from scratch 
> install is out of the question... I'm looking for another way
> 
> Bogdan

Hi Bogdan,

I would say: If you have to ask *this* question, then the answer would
be: Not recommended.

Why are you wanting to "jump" to Sid? There is no way to go back to Etch
if you don't like it.

If you just want newer software, check out http://debian.backports.org
(or something like that) but then, by definition, your system is no 
longer stable. 8-(

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Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 06:19:54PM +0200, Andraz Sraka wrote:
> Hello people,
> 
> are there any diagnostic/monitoring tools in linux (debian etch for
> instance) for monitoring Dell PERC 5/i RAID controller. I found that
> there are some utilities for RHEL/SuSE enterprise distribution. Has

Are they proprietry? If not, you can get the rpm and use the Debian package 
"alien" to convert it.

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Re: Best Kernel?

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:20:40PM -0400, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 09:12:21PM -0400, Jose Luis Rivas Contreras wrote:
> > Well, if you install the 32bit userland + 64bit kernel + X.Org it wont
> > work. :-)
> 
> Huh?  Perhaps you should send the message to the amd64 list.  Someone
> there is probably doing this.
> 
> Doug.

Hi Doug,

Are you saying that you can install a 64bit kernel on a current 32bit
system and then end up with a running system.?

I thought you couldn't replace a 32bit kernel with a 64bit kernel but
had to *install* with an actual 64bit kernel to get any benefit. 

Or does the replacement 64bit kernel just run in 32bit mode? (although
that is still better than a 32bit kernel, apparently.)

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Re: gnome screensavers - can I get more?

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 05:27:36PM +0100, Martin Waller wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ xscreensaver &
> [2] 10481
> [1]   Exit 127xscrennsaver

> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ Error: Cairo does not yet support the requested image 
> format:
>Depth: 16
>Alpha mask: 0x
>Red   mask: 0x003f
>Green mask: 0x07c0
>Blue  mask: 0xf800
> Please file an enhacement request (quoting the above) at:
 ^^
Hi Martin,

Were the errors, underlined above, the actual on screen errors as
printed? If so then it is sloppy coding and a bug should be filed.

If not, but caused by mistyping on your part, then could you please in
future either:

1) cut 'n' paste errors into your email client.
or
2) use the script program or redirection and then "read" the program
into your email program.

If you are using mutt + vim, then from within vim while you are
composing your mail:

 * move the cursor to where you want to type the errors produced

 * press  to get in command mode

 * type :r filename
   where filename is the file either from using script or from using
   redirection.

Mistakes in transcribing error messages can only lead two confusions.
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Re: What is a binNMU?

2007-10-29 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 28 Oct 2007, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote:
> Anthony Campbell wrote:
> 
> > I like to use wajig as a frontend to apt but it has been removed from
> > Sid because it depends on python-apt, which is also missing,  apparently
> > because of a binNMU connected with apt. I have no idea what a binNMU is.
> > Googling produces a lot of uses of the term but no explanation. I have
> > used Debian for a number of years but this is the first time I've heard
> > of it.
> > 
> > There was an upgrade of apt yesterday but this did not solve the
> > problem. Can someone kindly enlighten me about binNMU or point me to
> > some documentation about it?
> > 
> 
> A brief explanation can be found
> in /usr/share/doc/developers-reference/developers-reference.pdf section
> 5.11.9 - Terminology.
> 
> In short, NMU = non maintainer upload.
> binNMU = binary only NMU.
> source NMU = NMU that involves changes to source (either upstream or debian
> specific)
> 
> Usually, NMU without any qualifications refers to source NMU.
> 
> hth
> raju
> 
> -- 


Thanks to everyone for the clarification of this. I'm glad to say the
issue seems to have been resolved now and wajig is installable again.

Anthony

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sn9c102 webcam

2007-10-29 Thread Ivan Glushkov

Hi all,

I got an old, cheap Qware EasyCam webcam. I have no idea what is the 
model. In the end it does not metter much. I followed the LDP "The 
Webcam HOWTO" on http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Webcam-HOWTO/
Everything looks basically fine up to the point I try to get some 
information from my webcam. Trying to take a snapshot, I get:


~ % streamer -d -c /dev/video0 -b 16 -o test.jpeg
checking writer files [multiple image files] ...
  video name=ppm ext=ppm: ext mismatch [need jpeg]
  video name=pgm ext=pgm: ext mismatch [need jpeg]
  video name=jpeg ext=jpeg: OK
files / video: JPEG (JFIF) / audio: none
vid-open: trying: v4l2-old...
vid-open: failed: v4l2-old
vid-open: trying: v4l2...
v4l2: open
v4l2: device info:
  sn9c102 1.1.47 / SN9C1xx PC Camera @ usb-:00:1d.1-2
vid-open: ok: v4l2
movie_init_writer start
setformat: JPEG (JFIF) (320x240): failed
setformat: 12 bit YUV 4:2:0 (planar) (320x240): failed
setformat: 16 bit YUV 4:2:2 (planar) (320x240): failed
setformat: 24 bit TrueColor (BE: rgb) (320x240): failed
setformat: 24 bit TrueColor (LE: bgr) (320x240): failed
no way to get: 320x240 JPEG (JFIF)
movie writer initialisation failed
v4l2: close
~ %

The funny part is that the kopete devices configuration is showing me 
some black-green black low quality stream, which made me think that 
that's a driver issue. I compiled the latest kernel from kernel.org, 
which had newer version of the driver (1.1.47), but that did not change 
anything.


The v4l-info output looks fine to me:

### v4l2 device info [/dev/video0] ###
general info
VIDIOC_QUERYCAP
driver  : "sn9c102"
card: "SN9C1xx PC Camera"
bus_info: "usb-:00:1d.1-2"
version : 1.1.47
capabilities: 0x501 [VIDEO_CAPTURE,READWRITE,STREAMING]

standards

inputs
VIDIOC_ENUMINPUT(0)
index   : 0
name: "Camera"
type: CAMERA
audioset: 0
tuner   : 0
std : 0x0 []
status  : 0x0 []

video capture
VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(0,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
index   : 0
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
flags   : 0
description : "bayer rgb"
pixelformat : 0x31384142 [BA81]
VIDIOC_ENUM_FMT(1,VIDEO_CAPTURE)
index   : 1
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
flags   : 1
description : "compressed"
pixelformat : 0x30313953 [S910]
VIDIOC_G_FMT(VIDEO_CAPTURE)
type: VIDEO_CAPTURE
fmt.pix.width   : 320
fmt.pix.height  : 240
fmt.pix.pixelformat : 0x31384142 [BA81]
fmt.pix.field   : NONE
fmt.pix.bytesperline: 320
fmt.pix.sizeimage   : 76800
fmt.pix.colorspace  : SRGB
fmt.pix.priv: 8

controls
VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+0)
id  : 134217728
type: INTEGER
name: "DAC magnitude"
minimum : 0
maximum : 255
step: 1
default_value   : 4
flags   : 0
VIDIOC_QUERYCTRL(PRIVATE_BASE+1)
id  : 134217729
type: INTEGER
name: "green balance"
minimum : 0
maximum : 15
step: 1
default_value   : 0
flags   : 0


Any idea how to solve the problem is welcome...


Cheers,
Ivan


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