Re: Apache2 Dying
On 08/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:33:30 +1000 > "Adrian Levi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 08/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far. I'm running > > > memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's > > > okay. I'll let you know what I find. > > > > > > How long should I let it run? > > > > As long as you like but IMHO 1 complete cycle at a minimum. This > > is expressed as 'passes' about halfway down the screen, Up the top > > right you can see how far though each test and overall you are. > > > > Adrian > > > > > In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem. This is a brand > > > new Etch install on a brand new (to me) server. > > > > Would be an easy solution... > > > > Adrian > > > > It just finished the 2nd pass with no errors. I wonder if my next > step is to force a reinstall of Apache? Good news that your ram is ok. The reinstall can't hurt. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can expect deal with dialog generated by whiptail?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have some program which show some dialog by whiptail as UI to users, can I use expect to run the program without any interaction? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) iD8DBQFHMrxlJo9Njjkvy34RAo0gAJ9WsaqnJcUk1+NQSn9w5sX7+8D+LgCeJnY6 3TCZEBaHi2lhRI0pHABxqqE= =d/N4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why kernel 2.6.23 does not appear in sid packages?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 06:41:12AM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > > Being a Sid user you should be subscribed to debian-devel-announce: > > > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg1.html > > > > The problem seems to be solved (at least I got upgrades). > > I don't think so. I don't thnik you'll get upgrades the next day, for > example, since ries.debian.org == ftp-master.debian.org is still down. > So, no new uploads are possible. -- Aptitude 0.4.7: log report Wed, Nov 7 2007 19:11:26 +0200 [...] Will install 50 packages, and remove 1 packages. 192MB of disk space will be freed - So I did get upgrades, but opening a few changelogs I see the last entry was 31.Oct ... I might be that I got those upgrades later due to some work done on my main mirror (was mentioned on the lug mailing list). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Raquel wrote: On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? alias.load authz_groupfile cgi include php5.conf auth_basic authz_host dir info php5 authn_file authz_user dir mime rewrite auth_pam autoindex env negotiation setenvif authz_default cache expires perl status php errors are being logged. anything telling in the php log? When it stops, whats the output of lsof -i:80 ? Any firewalls that might be causing interference? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:31:28 -0800 Jeff D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Raquel wrote: > > I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. > > > > I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. > > > > I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. > > > > Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere > > from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of > > the server logs, messages or syslog. > > > > Any ideas? > > > > So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it > completely die? As far as I can tell, Apache keeps listening but stops serving pages. > > Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If > so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any > configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? > > Are you logging php? > alias.load authz_groupfile cgi include php5.conf auth_basic authz_host dir info php5 authn_file authz_user dir mime rewrite auth_pam autoindex env negotiation setenvif authz_default cache expires perl status php errors are being logged. -- Raquel If men are to be precluded from offering their sentiments on a matter which may involve the most serious and alarming consequences that can invite the consideration of mankind, reason is of no use to us; the freedom of speech may be taken away, and dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter. --George Washington -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:56:45PM -0800, Raquel wrote: > I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. > > I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. > > I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. > > Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from > 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server > logs, messages or syslog. > > Any ideas? maybe turn off all the modules, and just serve up a single, simple static page and see what happens. If it goes down, then its apache, if not then its one of the modules or code being run by one of those modules. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Apache2 Still Dying
Raquel wrote: I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? So, does apache keep listening and not serving pages, or does it completely die? Also, are all the modules you have loaded completely nesesarry? If so, I'd go ahead and disable those. Have you done any configuration tweaking to anything that might be causing this? Are you logging php? Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Douglas A. Tutty shared this with us all: >--} On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:00:27AM +1100, Charlie wrote: >--} > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe shared this with us all: >--} > >--} On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: --} > >--} > >--} mathematics: >--} > >--} >--} > >--} How does this work? Is it a mistake? >--} > >--} >--} > >--} > * Lyx >--} > >--} > >--} >--} > >--} > >--} misc utilities: >--} > >--} > * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, > Unclutter, --} > > probably --} >--} > >--} probably? Where does one get that? >--} > >--} >--} > >--} >--} > >--} > Sorry.. misinterpretation on my part.. thought it meant > mathematical --} > formulas >--} > >--} > [hangs head in shame] :-( >--} >--} Oh, I thought you got Probably from the Hiezenburg (spelling??) >--} Uncertanty Repository. :) >--} >--} Doug. I got it even more wrong?? Probably-others, not probably as a package. Others like: Kommander, Scribus, Kalarm, Knotes and-others. :-( -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ I have always known that at last I would take this road But yesterday I did not know it would be today. - NARIHARA <<<> Debian - Just the best way to do magic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:24:27PM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote: s. keeling wrote: Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)? I am using TERM=linux. Before I did LC_ALL=C none of the lines displayed correctly when using mc. Since I have done LC_ALL=C all of the lines are displaying correctly except for the scroll lines on the right hand side of the screen. Try using TERM=screen on both ends. I've found that it seems to work since GNU-screen is GNU-screen everywhere whereas different OSs (and distros) seem to tinker with vt100 et al and linux. Doug. I don't have screen as an option in my telnet program. I am using ZOC on Windows and it only has the following options: Ansi BBS Ansi SCO Avatar/0+ Linux QNX 4 SNI97801 Sun CDE TN3270 TN5250 TTY TVI 9xx VT100 VT102 VT220 VT52 Wyse If I just use TERM=screen on the Debian box but leave Linux in ZOC, the lines look the same. But, only after doing LC_ALL=C. If I don't do that the lines do not draw correctly no matter what I have tried in regards to terminal emulation. Also, I had no problems with this setup when I was using Gentoo Linux. The line drawing problem started with Debian. Thanks, Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Apache2 Still Dying
I ran mtest86+ and the memory checked out ... no errors. I ran strace /usr/sbin/apache2 and can see no errors. I have googled until my eyes are red and sore. Apache2 is still dying (stops delivering pages) after anywhere from 15 minutes to 5 hours. I cannot find a reason in any of the server logs, messages or syslog. Any ideas? -- Raquel It is very nearly impossible ... to become an educated person in a country so distrustful of the independent mind. --James Baldwin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 07:24:27PM -0800, Jeff Grossman wrote: > s. keeling wrote: > >Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal > >emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the > >clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)? > > > I am using TERM=linux. Before I did LC_ALL=C none of the lines > displayed correctly when using mc. Since I have done LC_ALL=C all of > the lines are displaying correctly except for the scroll lines on the > right hand side of the screen. > Try using TERM=screen on both ends. I've found that it seems to work since GNU-screen is GNU-screen everywhere whereas different OSs (and distros) seem to tinker with vt100 et al and linux. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
> I use Kpdf most of the time but xpdf has a smaller footprint (both > memory and disk space requirements). I have Kpdf on my main Athlon box > and xpdf on my PII. I can view a pdf directly on the PII with xpdf or I > can ssh -X into my athlon box and view it with Kpdf if I set Kpdf for > poor performance. Its stores rendered pages in the Xorg memory > footprint on the PII. If I'm really tight for memory, I'll run xpdf on > the Athlon and it will keep rendered pages on the Athlon. I also found kpdf outperform xpdf for big files. But the only reason I still keep using xpdf is that I can't set the vi key-binding (hjkl is enough) in kpdf. Manu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Lenny freezes in X
I have had no X freeze on my Debian testing system since installing the xfwm4 from unstable. Patrick On Nov 7, 2007 3:39 PM, Patrick Wiseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 6, 2007 12:59 PM, I wrote: > > > On a recently updated testing system, but using kernel 2.6.21 (because > > I can't get the Cisco VPN client to compile with 2.6.22), I've had > > intermittent freezes of X too. In fact, had one moment ago! I was > > able to Ctl-Alt-F2 to a console, where I logged in and ran top, which > > reported 1 zombie process, which, it turned out, was ld-linux.so.2. I > > returned to the X console and used Ctrl-Backspace to end the session. > > After restarting, I have no zombie processes. > > > > So, is it a problem with ld-linux.so.2, and, if so, what's the fix? > > I just read on the xfce users list that the problem is with xfwm4 and > the gtk version in testing; it's fixed, I'm told, in the xfwm4 in > unstable, which I have now installed and hope for the best! > > Patrick > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:00:27AM +1100, Charlie wrote: > On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe shared this with us all: > >--} On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--} > >--} mathematics: > >--} > >--} How does this work? Is it a mistake? > >--} > >--} > * Lyx > >--} > >--} > >--} > >--} misc utilities: > >--} > * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, Unclutter, > > probably --} > >--} probably? Where does one get that? > >--} > >--} > > Sorry.. misinterpretation on my part.. thought it meant mathematical > formulas > > [hangs head in shame] :-( Oh, I thought you got Probably from the Hiezenburg (spelling??) Uncertanty Repository. :) Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 05:44:59PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > web browser: > > lynx, konqueror, + iceweasel (in i386 chroot for flash, javascript, plus > > a couple of sites that won't work on konq). > > This makes me curious why i386 chroot? Because I'm running Etch amd64. There is no flashplayer for amd64 and no wrapper (as there is in Lenny). So a browser plus flash needs to be in a chroot. I'm on dialup and iceweasel has frequent enough security replacment (and its a big download when that happens) that I only want one copy to have to maintain; in the i386 chroot. My normal day-to-day browsing is with Konqueror amd64 and requires neither flash nor javascript. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deletion of files from usb-key
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 09:22:54PM -0500, Haines Brown wrote: What device are we talking about: What device and what partition on the device? > # dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdd bs=512 count=1 > 1+0 records in > 1+0 records out > 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00394563 seconds, 130 kB/s > Note that this is /sdd (this is a file called sdd in /) > This didn't get rid of the files. > > You suggested second: > > # mkdosfs -I -v /dev/sdd > mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) > /dev/sdd has 16 heads and 62 sectors per track, Note that this is /dev/sdd > Files still there. > > Important relevant information: > > $ df /media/mirror > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on > /dev/sda1 964500 124352791152 14% / Note: this is sda1 > > I next tried to repair the file system; > > # dosfsck -av /dev/sdd > dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) > dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN > Logical sector size is zero. > > Zero? > Note that this is /dev/sdd > I said that running mformat failed. What I meant is that I only get > the usage help, but nothing happens: > > # mformat -v /dev/sdd > Mtools version 3.9.10, dated March 2nd, 2005 > Usage: ... > > I tried: > > # fdisk /dev/sdd > > and print partition table: > > Disk /dev/sdd: 512 MB, 512483328 bytes > 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1009 cylinders > Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes > > Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System > /dev/sdd1 11009 500433b W95 FAT32 > > This looks OK. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 01:09:38PM -0700, Robert Jerrard wrote: > On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:38 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > evince, xpdf > > > > How come this is? What's the limitations of each? > > Evince is nice in that it remembers what slide you stopped at last time > but it was a bit buggy in earlier versions, seems to work nicely now. > > Xpdf was the one I used when evince was buggy. > > I haven't seen any real limitations for either in my limited use of > them. I didn't notice that gnome apps had stopped being buggy. Every time I figure I'll try one (such as Evince) I always hit some bug. I use Kpdf most of the time but xpdf has a smaller footprint (both memory and disk space requirements). I have Kpdf on my main Athlon box and xpdf on my PII. I can view a pdf directly on the PII with xpdf or I can ssh -X into my athlon box and view it with Kpdf if I set Kpdf for poor performance. Its stores rendered pages in the Xorg memory footprint on the PII. If I'm really tight for memory, I'll run xpdf on the Athlon and it will keep rendered pages on the Athlon. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
s. keeling wrote: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: s. keeling wrote: Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I have updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg. What about TERM=screen ? Where should I put the 'export LC_ALL=C' command so it is always done for each login and for each user? The /etc/bash.bashrc file? btw, defining LC_ALL=C is heavy-handed overkill. Better would be LANG. I also set LC_COLLATE=C. Here's what I end up with: (0) heretic /home/keeling_ locale LANG=en_US.iso885915 LC_CTYPE="en_US.iso885915" Well, honestly, I have no idea what any of those settings do. I just want mc and aptitude to properly draw lines. Without the LC_ALL line the lines are not drawn correctly. What setting should I use to fix the Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)? I am using TERM=linux. Before I did LC_ALL=C none of the lines displayed correctly when using mc. Since I have done LC_ALL=C all of the lines are displaying correctly except for the scroll lines on the right hand side of the screen. Jeff -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet/SSH Terminal Help
Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > s. keeling wrote: > > Jeff Grossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > >>> Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > >>> > On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 06:03:01AM -0700, Jeff Grossman wrote: > > > If I do an 'export LC_ALL=C' then term=linux and term=screen appear to > > act the same. The display is much better but still not perfect. I > > have > > updated a new picture at http://www.stikman.com/mcdisplay1.jpg. > > > What about TERM=screen ? > > >> Where should I put the 'export LC_ALL=C' command so it is always done for > >> each login and for each user? The /etc/bash.bashrc file? > > > > btw, defining LC_ALL=C is heavy-handed overkill. Better would be > > LANG. I also set LC_COLLATE=C. Here's what I end up with: > > > > (0) heretic /home/keeling_ locale > > LANG=en_US.iso885915 > > LC_CTYPE="en_US.iso885915" > > Well, honestly, I have no idea what any of those settings do. I just > want mc and aptitude to properly draw lines. Without the LC_ALL line > the lines are not drawn correctly. What setting should I use to fix the Your problem isn't related to locale. I suspect it's your terminal emulation that's buggered. Are you using xterm, rxvt, or one of the clueless children (kterm/gnome-terminal)? -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deletion of files from usb-key
Haines Brown wrote: Kiran, Thanks for the help. I should emphazie that my promblem is not mounting the usb-key drive, but only deleting the files on it. I can copy those files, but not delete or modify them. However, if I add a test file, I can readily delete it. I suspect I damanged the file system by removing the usb-key from a laptop running Windows without first "stopping" it (I know nothing of Windows). You suggested first: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdd bs=512 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00394563 seconds, 130 kB/s This didn't get rid of the files. 1. Did you unmount the flash drive before you did dd? 2. Verify that your flash drive is indeed /dev/sdd. You suggested second: # mkdosfs -I -v /dev/sdd mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) /dev/sdd has 16 heads and 62 sectors per track, logical sector size is 512, using 0xf8 media descriptor, with 1000944 sectors; file system has 2 16-bit FATs and 16 sectors per cluster. FAT size is 245 sectors, and provides 62526 clusters. Root directory contains 512 slots. Volume ID is 47326c96, no volume label. Files still there. As I said, the drive was probably still mounted when you ran the commands. Unmount the flash drive, run dd, unplug it from the system, plug it back in, run mkdosfs, unplug, plug and then mount. -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lprng + magicfilter + hpijs => hp deskjet 680c
Javier Vasquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 11/4/07, Javier Vasquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have a HP-680C deskject printer that I wanted to make it work with > > lprng + magicfilter + hpijs. So far no luck. I seems like I'm able > > to use the filter: > > > > /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter > > > > But for some reason I can't get to use the: > > > > /etc/magicfilter/hpijs-filter Please, what does "I can't get to use" mean? Error messages? Log entries? See /var/log for the latter. > BTW: Is there a way to set the quality on /etc/printcap directly, so > by default everything prints on economic/draft quality under such > configuration? Here's my /etc/printcap for an Epson Stylus Photo 900: lp0|To Your Left: \ :lp=/dev/lp0: \ :force_localhost: \ :if=/usr/bin/foomatic-rip: \ :ppd=/usr/local/ppd/Epson-Stylus_Photo_870-Stp870p.upp.ppd: \ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp: \ :mx#0:sh: It's not rocket science, once you find the ppd that matches your printer closely enough, but I think print quality may be app specific. CUPS or foomatic config may do that for you. I've used the hp and dj filters in the past, but that was a long time ago, sorry. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to read http mails in mutt mail reader (vim)?
hce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I've just installed mutt in Debian, one problem is there are some > mails from news lists with HTTP format, it was fine when I use Mozilla > mail reader, but with mutt and vim, I could not read the HTTP format > mails. One solution I can think of is to use lynx, but I don't know > how to config mutt with lynx. How do you handle this issue? mutt needs to be trained. You could tell it to use urlview via macro, but I see no need for it. Install w3m, and it'll do everything you need. In your ~/.mailcap, add: multipart/alternative ; /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html multipart/related ; /usr/bin/w3m -dump %s; copiousoutput; nametemplate=%s.html text/html ; /usr/bin/w3m -T text/html -dump %s ; copiousoutput then tell mutt this (~/.muttrc): macro index \cB |'w3m -m -cookie'\n 'call w3m to extract URLs out of a message' macro pager \cB |'w3m -m -cookie'\n 'call w3m to extract URLs out of a message' Then, CTRL-b invokes w3m on the mail you're reading, ":" highlights links, and TAB moves to the next one, and Enter goes to that link. To configure w3m, type "o" when it's running. Hit "q" and you're back in mutt. -- Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. (*)http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html Linux Counter #80292 - -http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.htmlPlease, don't Cc: me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux kernel email list??
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:07:01PM -0600, Randy Patterson - [Tech] wrote: > Hey, > > I am trying to compile the 2.6.23.1 linux kernel and have ran into a brick > wall. I know this isn't the list for it but was wondering if someone could > point me in the direction of the appropriate list. I found the list at > vger.kernel.org but that is for linux kernel developers and they probaby > aren't interested in kernel newbie questions. A good link would be very much > appreciated! actually, on the assumption that you are trying to build your kernel on a debian system, this is entirely appropriate. Why don't you go ahead and ask your question. Worst case, someone will tell you to take it somewhere else. ;) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Deletion of files from usb-key
Kiran, Thanks for the help. I should emphazie that my promblem is not mounting the usb-key drive, but only deleting the files on it. I can copy those files, but not delete or modify them. However, if I add a test file, I can readily delete it. I suspect I damanged the file system by removing the usb-key from a laptop running Windows without first "stopping" it (I know nothing of Windows). You suggested first: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdd bs=512 count=1 1+0 records in 1+0 records out 512 bytes (512 B) copied, 0.00394563 seconds, 130 kB/s This didn't get rid of the files. You suggested second: # mkdosfs -I -v /dev/sdd mkdosfs 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) /dev/sdd has 16 heads and 62 sectors per track, logical sector size is 512, using 0xf8 media descriptor, with 1000944 sectors; file system has 2 16-bit FATs and 16 sectors per cluster. FAT size is 245 sectors, and provides 62526 clusters. Root directory contains 512 slots. Volume ID is 47326c96, no volume label. Files still there. Important relevant information: $ ls -la /media/usb-key drwxr-xr-x 2 brownh brownh20480 Dec 31 1969 . drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 4096 Jul 17 15:16 .. -rwxr-xr-x 1 brownh brownh 1071529 Aug 14 14:35 <.PNG filename> ... $ df /media/mirror Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sda1 964500 124352791152 14% / I next tried to repair the file system; # dosfsck -av /dev/sdd dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN Logical sector size is zero. Zero? I said that running mformat failed. What I meant is that I only get the usage help, but nothing happens: # mformat -v /dev/sdd Mtools version 3.9.10, dated March 2nd, 2005 Usage: ... I tried: # fdisk /dev/sdd and print partition table: Disk /dev/sdd: 512 MB, 512483328 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1009 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1 11009 500433b W95 FAT32 This looks OK. -- Haines Brown, KB1GRM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 1:24 PM, John Masters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13:15 Tue 06 Nov , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > > add missing categories: > > > > > > > Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the > same stuff is rehashed as it was a few months ago. Does this totally > unscientific poll have any real use? Apart that is from reigniting the > antediluvian arguments like mutt v emacs, bash v korn etc. > > There is a method to gauge the popularity of FLOSS apps built into every > Debian installation. If you haven't enabled it yet, do so and eliminate > this totally superfluous 'poll'. I find it fun and interesting to discuss with my fellow free software users what programs they use. With this method, it is not anonymous stats, it is people I know somewhat. If someone has an interesting choice, I can ask why they use that program, and sometime I learn of programs that I didn't know about at all. Last year, this poll produced no major vi/emacs or similar flamewars, and there have been none so far this year. I am generally for keeping the list mostly on topic, but I think an annual "favorite FOSS poll" is still on topic (and fun). Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: >> > mathematics: >> >> Can't understand what you mean by this... > > Anything working with mathematics, like calculators and so on, same as > you've listed below... > >> maxima, texmacs, gnuplot, octave (many programs are coming to my mind)... > > Is this your selection? > Yes, that is my selection. raju -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Linux kernel email list??
Hey, I am trying to compile the 2.6.23.1 linux kernel and have ran into a brick wall. I know this isn't the list for it but was wondering if someone could point me in the direction of the appropriate list. I found the list at vger.kernel.org but that is for linux kernel developers and they probaby aren't interested in kernel newbie questions. A good link would be very much appreciated! Thanks, Randy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what is supposed to set $LANG?
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 23:59 +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > I noticed lately that $LANG is no longer set by default on my system. Seems > that it is defined correctly in /etc/defaults and when changing to root it is > also defined, but it is not defined for the default user > > seems like some programs get confused by the lack of a default encoding What is the output of localedef --list-archive and/or the contents of /etc/locale.gen? -davidc -- gpg-key: http://www.zettazebra.com/files/key.gpg signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: docx files
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 10:14:55PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Hi, > I received a file.docx made with office 2007 > Is there any easy way to read it? > Thanks > Thierry Microsoft has a free converter. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=941B3470-3AE9-4AEE-8F43-C6BB74CD1466&displaylang=en I have no idea whether they work under WINE, but if they do your problem is solved. -- Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Read my blog at nitpickingblog.blogspot.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why kernel 2.6.23 does not appear in sid packages?
On 07/11/2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > Being a Sid user you should be subscribed to debian-devel-announce: > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg1.html > > The problem seems to be solved (at least I got upgrades). I don't think so. I don't thnik you'll get upgrades the next day, for example, since ries.debian.org == ftp-master.debian.org is still down. So, no new uploads are possible. Kumar -- Kumar Appaiah, 458, Jamuna Hostel, Indian Institute of Technology Madras, Chennai - 600036 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:49:10 -0500, I wrote: > My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub > (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its > network connection to the outside world. It seems to be a software problem. > ... > I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down. On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 19:45:07 +0530, Raj Kiran Grandhi replied: > What is the output of "route -n"? > there should be an entry which looks like > > 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 . eth0 As expected, I see Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 172.16.196.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 vmnet8 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 192.168.107.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 vmnet1 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 where 192.168.0.1 is the router. (I tried starting without vmware but it didn't help.) On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:04:53 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Are you pinging by IP or DNS name? Try by IP to remove the possibility > of a DNS problem. From a box that does work, ping debian.org and get > the IP. Then from the problem box, ping that IP and see if it goes > through. If it does, then its a DNS problem. Neither ping succeeds. I was a little surprised that I do still have name resolution. If I do "host debian.org", for example, it resolves to 192.25.206.10. (This is not coming from /etc/hosts.) On Wed, 07 Nov 2007 15:24:58 +0100, Christian Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> suggested: > try "tcpdump -i eth0 -p -n" during pinging of outside adresses I started the tcpdump command, then started "ping debian.org", and got the following: tcpdump: verbose output suppressed, use -v or -vv for full protocol decode listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96 bytes 17:02:12.626080 IP 192.168.0.4.32792 > 192.168.0.1.53: 41061+ A? debian.org. (28) 17:02:12.638319 IP 192.168.0.1.53 > 192.168.0.4.32792: 41061 1/3/0 A 192.25.206.10 (105) 17:02:12.638618 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 1, length 64 17:02:13.638421 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 2, length 64 [more of those] 17:02:24.655745 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 13, length 64 17:02:25.018434 IP 192.168.0.1.520 > 192.168.0.255.520: RIPv1, Response, length: 44 17:02:25.656605 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 14, length 64 [more of those] 17:02:29.669048 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 18, length 64 17:02:30.657695 arp who-has 192.168.0.1 tell 192.168.0.4 17:02:30.658311 arp reply 192.168.0.1 is-at 00:a0:c5:e2:b4:56 17:02:30.669758 IP 192.168.0.4 > 192.25.206.10: ICMP echo request, id 58398, seq 19, length 64 [more of the same; interrupt tcpdump with ^c] 42 packets captured 42 packets received by filter 0 packets dropped by kernel > if you can attach to the DSL directly It may come to that, but it would involve lugging everything upstairs. The router lives next to my wife's XP machine. Finally, on Wed, 7 Nov 2007 09:09:11 -0800 (PST), joseph lockhart wrote: > i had a similar problem here, i run my internet through a cable connection, > and had mysteriously lost the ability to connect to the internet. Probably a > completely diffrent cause but i would check dbus i have found that it wants > to shut itself off and ignores me everytime that i tell it to start running > on startup (which i have set the last several times that i have booted up) Sorry, but I don't know enough to understand this. If you can describe what steps you took to fix it (it you could at all), I could try them. I do show these processes running: /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system /sbin/dhclient -1 -lf /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -q -e dhc_dbus=31 -d eth0 Thanks to all of you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Deletion of files from usb-key
Haines Brown wrote: I have a SamDisk USB-key filled with photos (.png) which I used for a slide show. I now would like to delete them, but whenever the device is rebooted, the files reappear. $ ls -la /media/usb-key rwxr-xr-x file.png /brownh/brownh Post the actual output of 'ls -la'. Also the output of 'df /media/usb-key' with the device mounted would help In desperation I try: $ shred -fuv /media/usb-key *.* shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 1/25 (random)... shred: /media/usb-key/ : fdatasync failed: Input/output error shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 2/25 (88)... shred: /media/usb-key/: fdatasync failed: Input/output error ... Hmmm... appears to be some hardware error or a case of filesystem corruption. Did you try dosfsck on the drive? and also tried: # mformat -v /dev/sdd1 Use mkdosfs. Unless you assigned a drive letter to your flash drive, mformat is unlikely to work. It failed to run, perhaps because the usb-key has no unix low-level In that case please post the error messages. format. And I also tried: # fdisk /dev/sdd1 It should be /dev/sdd. Not sdd1 I print the partition table: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System This suggests there is no partition at present. So I add a partition (primary, number 1, cylinders 1-1088. Now I print this and have: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 11008 499937 83 Linux And I change the type to 4 and print again: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 11008 4999374 FAT16 <32M And write and quit (w command): The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional information. Syncing disks. Well, I tried: # sfdisk /dev/sdd1 Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ... BLKRRPART: Invalid argument OK Warning: start=62 - this looks like a partition rather than the entire disk. Using fdisk on it is probably meaningless. [Use the --force option if you really want this] When I use sfdisk with --force option, ... Disk /dev/sdd1: 1008 cylinders, 16 heads, 62 sectors/track Old situation: Units = cylinders of 507904 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p2 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p3 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p4 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p1 : Next I try: # mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdd1 mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) But my files still there. Fsck didn't help. My guess is that I need a low level format, but I have no idea how to do that for a usb-key. Is it usually done with a proprietary low-level format utility? Just try the following, assuming your usb key is at /dev/sdd (change if it isn't) 1. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd bs=512 count=1 2. mkdosfs -I -v /dev/sdd Now you should be able to mount /dev/sdd. -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to find driver for new HP printer (Color LaserJet 2605dn)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear Rick,.. Im not sure about the dn version but as said on open printing : http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-Color_LaserJet_2605 The 2605 has perfect support by hplip package Rick Thomas wrote: > > The immediate problem is for Sarge, but I expect I'll also discover > that Etch and Lenny don't have drivers for this one either, since > it's fairly new. > > So here's the question: > > I just got a new HP color LaserJet 2605dn printer. The CUPS setup > doesn't seem to have a driver for it. > Does anybody have an idea where to get appropriate driver software > (I *think* it's just a PPD file, but I don't know for sure) and once > I've got it, how to install it? > > Thanks in advance! > > Rick > > - -- - -- Could you at least use man ? Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRzJbCG9p6JnF9I1qAQIaLA//ew+hVMR10xEsyKwR+ri6HM4tgyNKsHgy 6b0XmaXG90Mb4Bk/99tYeTRXoAm81uswvGj1t1Dl8V4Qk+htDGxxt6e2DZWbrISL gh8dWYauBTOd08fEMhmgCiaMErAP7TdzUo7sqcnF+N5eNnQN5YlU496TyHjRtXTG LPYwQg/nlDvnyhXbz0HmYWZaVomd4FXjhsLOFfsESWB6WaIQNvxz6wJUu4VxsLEQ ZtNFBFIevdEuPQQQRfUooaJP46ce2FdluTdVEQ9jFXq7LD9aB8TGrMaEOiSBCMwv 3xmY6/Q0iS4Q/KCOStMrPwWOVbOqaFPSUuwlMJSttg0td5uI5WU9hbvOD6OghfuA qPtFWalQfuKN0r+kPEd1ms7ujPseOC+ApcgQu385jgeMcWoz9XFPh6u6nhuMIh7A TN+0PKD1R/Wqv+UCymUIa3CZIdE2RstZNVvqUiZRb75a1OZSR2Eb2cJ1dXX8CKKL XZNUOkt1FhkMWenKBolG7DdaH4gPejvdUS/pp6QNidKxZyU4BvwBuocgsuoIAIvG UhSpUg5BksLu7RBnf9DKdJUYHQEnvawBsEgAyfwwcrJULSerBNiX0/XkvTudHmot mnX10Poy9+A0J53TQg6IYCufxn6ZxqtVyJcZjvfAdSfEBBFgOGzgbs6GtU7mXbMa /M3lNju3/lo= =h2B8 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to find driver for new HP printer (Color LaserJet 2605dn)
The immediate problem is for Sarge, but I expect I'll also discover that Etch and Lenny don't have drivers for this one either, since it's fairly new. So here's the question: I just got a new HP color LaserJet 2605dn printer. The CUPS setup doesn't seem to have a driver for it. Does anybody have an idea where to get appropriate driver software (I *think* it's just a PPD file, but I don't know for sure) and once I've got it, how to install it? Thanks in advance! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xen on lenny stock
Hey All, Long time no email. Please cc me on replies, as I can't keep up with this list and no longer subscribe. SO I got some new hardware... to wit: Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-G33M-DS2R Drives: 4 250 GB SATA Anyway, Etch worked, right up until boot time came. Every single time I tried, I got dumped into a grubsh on boot and just got nowhere. So I moved to testing...lo and behold it worked. SO I am building my very minimal system up (I even unchecked "standard system" on install to keep my dom0 lean) Some packages I have installed: ii libc6-xen 2.6.1-1+b1 ii xen-hypervisor 3.1.1-1 ii xen-tools 3.8-4 ii xen-utils-3.1- 3.1.1-1 ii xen-utils-comm 3.1.0-1 ii linux-image-2. 2.6.22-4 ~# xm list WARING! Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs! Error: Unable to connect to xend: No such file or directory. Is xend running? # xend WARING! Can't find hypervisor information in sysfs! ERROR Internal error: Could not obtain handle on privileged command interface (2 = No such file or directory) Traceback (most recent call last): (snipped traceback) I found many copies all over the web of a post that describes this issue and a solution: http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11088 Except # dmesg |grep para Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware ... and the changelog for the kernel says: * Update xen patch to changeset 48670 from fedora 2.6.20 branch. * Support xen versions 3.0.4-1 and 3.0.3-1. So am I reading this right that the linux-image currently in testing does NOT support the version of xen in testing? Is there an easy solution here? I don't really care hat version of xen I run so much as that I want it to run and I do NOT want to be in the custome kernel game. -Steve -- "Mankind, The Public enemy's not the man who speaks his mind The Public enemy's the man who goes and acts blind" -- Anthrax "Keep it in the Fammily" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3
Sarunas Burdulis ha scritto: No, you need to reboot because you recompile the kernel module. Shouldn't # modprobe -r # modprobe suffice instead of reboot? Errr, yes. I suppose it should. *hides in a corner*. So the right sequence for me would be # /etc/init.d/kdm stop # modprobe -r fglrx # modprobe fglrx # /etc/init.d/kdm start Will try that next time. Davide -- A tautology is a thing which is tautological. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wine + Diablo II LOD + 3D on nvidia = white screen?
Dnia 07/11/07 23:19,Rob Bochan napisał: On Wednesday 07 November 2007 06:16:13 pm MRH wrote: I don't play games much, but sometimes it'd be nice to be able to. I have a problem with Diablo II Lord of Destruction (expansion pack) game. It works fine in DirectDraw 2D mode but is not so 'shiny', it looks much better in Direct3D. When I set it up to run in 3D HAL mode it starts OK, but then after intro the whole screen goes white. When it's run in window I can quit but if it's full screen mode nautilus hangs and my desktop is all blank - have to manually delete metacity saved session files. Moreover, in windowed run it seems to be changing the whole colour palette - all windows colours are very pale. I use Debian Sid on AMD64, nvidia drivers (proprietary - to get 3D working), Gnome. I looked at winehq, but the game is described as working. Any hints? Not sure if it helps, but on exit it returns the following errors (cut to the relevant part I think): ... fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16 ... That line sounds like where the problem lies. You might consider running in 16 bit color as opposed to 32 bit. ...Rob This is what I thought, but what should I change? Something in Wine config or XOrg? I tried to change xorg.conf DefaultDepth 16 in Screen section, but it didn't help. Well, I don't understand where it takes the 32 bit value from, while it's 24 by default... Michal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Davide Mancusi wrote: > Chris Bannister ha scritto: >> On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: >>> You will have to stop the x-server and then restart it. In fact I had to >>> reboot (aaarhhh) in order for the module to install correctly. Try >> >> Instead of having to reboot, you might get away with just a >> dpkg-reconfigure >> > > No, you need to reboot because you recompile the kernel module. Shouldn't # modprobe -r # modprobe suffice instead of reboot? > Still, there might a way to avoid this but a simple dpkg-reconfigure > won't help. Module unload/load can be a part of package configuration perhaps? Postinst script in .deb? Sarunas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHMk40ejaFVltl6E8RAi9bAKCe62C0N13mJrJbhwXvYe5D/8CZiQCcDn2p Yva+6ehN5wbVQSs1reI2ffs= =rP4N -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: docx files
On Thursday 08 November 2007 00:29, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 11/07/07 17:01, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> I received a file.docx made with office 2007 > >>> Is there any easy way to read it? > >> > >> I think that SUSE has a closed-source plugin for OOo. > > > > Hummm, excuse my ignorence, what do you mean by closed-source ? > > Opposite of open source? > > -- > Ron Johnson, Jr. > Jefferson LA USA > Ok, still that stupid (on my part) problem between free and open. Harrr, maybe one day I will become better!!! thanks for the answer Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: docx files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/07 17:01, Thierry Chatelet wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I received a file.docx made with office 2007 >>> Is there any easy way to read it? >> I think that SUSE has a closed-source plugin for OOo. >> > > Hummm, excuse my ignorence, what do you mean by closed-source ? Opposite of open source? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHMkpDS9HxQb37XmcRAngbAJ9Gyf3VW7ZZVuji1vYREPhczA1J7ACeL0lu 49+jkTyO6l142WnCcF/HX78= =XG25 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:03 PM, John Masters wrote: That's pretty much the equivalent of what most "I'm leaving the list" messages amount to. No one cares, we all just shake our heads and say, "There goes a very troubled person." Do not presume to psychoanalyse me. I see the Debian Users list as an invaluable source of information and advice, to which I attempt in my own small way to contribute. Posts requesting opinions as to which is the best software/hardware/distro inevitably invite flame wars which fill my inbox with dross. I didn't psychoanalyze you -- I told you what people think of such behavior in public. I leave psychoanalysis to the pros. :-) As far as your comments about posts requesting opinions as to which is the best software to use for a particular purpose -- you're absolutely right -- they always lead to dumb arguments and the same old flamefests. My point to you is that no matter how hard you try (or voice your opinion that you don't like it) -- those stupid arguments will continue to happen. Example: If you can find an example of a Unix list where the tired old vi vs emacs thread HASN'T happened, I'd be impressed. What point is there in fighting it? It's just tilting after windmills to try to stop flamefests on a non-moderated mailing list. It's far easier to just delete the thread and move on. :-) Standard Unix flamefests: S/N ratio of lists drops by some measurable amount. Complaints about flamefests, S/N ratio drops by a further amount. (Me being dumb enough to reply to you and try to explain it... S/N ratio of list drops even further. GRIN...) It's a never-ending flamefest/complaint/explanation that flamfests won't go away/new flamefest cycle. Almost as natural as the Sun rising and setting. I find the complaints about the flamefests to also be "dross" in my inbox, see? And I was dumb enough to point it out... which you replied by saying you didn't like people psychoanalyzing you? Heh. Quite the useless thread now... sorry, I'm done. I fell into the same trap you did... complaining about something neither one of us can change. -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Wine + Diablo II LOD + 3D on nvidia = white screen?
On Wednesday 07 November 2007 06:16:13 pm MRH wrote: > I don't play games much, but sometimes it'd be nice to be able to. > I have a problem with Diablo II Lord of Destruction (expansion pack) > game. It works fine in DirectDraw 2D mode but is not so 'shiny', it > looks much better in Direct3D. When I set it up to run in 3D HAL mode it > starts OK, but then after intro the whole screen goes white. When it's > run in window I can quit but if it's full screen mode nautilus hangs and > my desktop is all blank - have to manually delete metacity saved session > files. Moreover, in windowed run it seems to be changing the whole > colour palette - all windows colours are very pale. > > I use Debian Sid on AMD64, nvidia drivers (proprietary - to get 3D > working), Gnome. > I looked at winehq, but the game is described as working. Any hints? > > Not sure if it helps, but on exit it returns the following errors (cut > to the relevant part I think): >... > fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from > 32 to 16 > ... That line sounds like where the problem lies. You might consider running in 16 bit color as opposed to 32 bit. ...Rob -- Some people type so fast that they forget to include -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wine + Diablo II LOD + 3D on nvidia = white screen?
I don't play games much, but sometimes it'd be nice to be able to. I have a problem with Diablo II Lord of Destruction (expansion pack) game. It works fine in DirectDraw 2D mode but is not so 'shiny', it looks much better in Direct3D. When I set it up to run in 3D HAL mode it starts OK, but then after intro the whole screen goes white. When it's run in window I can quit but if it's full screen mode nautilus hangs and my desktop is all blank - have to manually delete metacity saved session files. Moreover, in windowed run it seems to be changing the whole colour palette - all windows colours are very pale. I use Debian Sid on AMD64, nvidia drivers (proprietary - to get 3D working), Gnome. I looked at winehq, but the game is described as working. Any hints? Not sure if it helps, but on exit it returns the following errors (cut to the relevant part I think): === fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x817784,0x), stub! fixme:d3d:IWineD3DDeviceImpl_GetAvailableTextureMem (0x14b658) : stub, simulating 64MB for now, returning 64MB left fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x14a0f8)->(0x30024,0411) fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16 fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x14a0f8)->(0x30024,0411) fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16 err:ddraw:IDirectDrawSurfaceImpl_Flip Can't find a flip target err:ddraw:IDirectDrawSurfaceImpl_Flip Can't find a flip target fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x14a0f8)->(0x30024,0411) fixme:x11drv:X11DRV_desktop_SetCurrentMode Cannot change screen BPP from 32 to 16 fixme:ddraw:IDirectDrawImpl_SetCooperativeLevel (0x14a0f8)->((nil),0008) === Kind regards, Michal R. Hoffmann -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 15:16 Wed 07 Nov , Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Nov 7, 2007, at 2:24 PM, John Masters wrote: > >> On 13:15 Tue 06 Nov , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: >>> Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to >>> add missing categories: >>> >>> >> >> >> Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the >> same stuff is rehashed as it was a few months ago. Does this totally >> unscientific poll have any real use? Apart that is from reigniting the >> antediluvian arguments like mutt v emacs, bash v korn etc. > > Sheesh... sort by thread, delete key. Not difficult... > Not the point. Why rehash stuff that has been over and over. >> There is a method to gauge the popularity of FLOSS apps built into every >> Debian installation. If you haven't enabled it yet, do so and eliminate >> this totally superfluous 'poll'. > > You might have mentioned that it's called "popularity-contest" and can be > found via your favorite package manager. :-) > I thought everybody would know what it is called seeing as it is offered as an option on install. > Picture yourself standing in a big room with a hundred people all having > different conversations... imaging yelling at the top of your lungs "I'm > tired of hearing that group over there talking about that! I'M LEAVING!" > > Think anyone would, a) care?, b) not think you were insane? > > That's pretty much the equivalent of what most "I'm leaving the list" > messages amount to. No one cares, we all just shake our heads and say, > "There goes a very troubled person." > Do not presume to psychoanalyse me. I see the Debian Users list as an invaluable source of information and advice, to which I attempt in my own small way to contribute. Posts requesting opinions as to which is the best software/hardware/distro inevitably invite flame wars which fill my inbox with dross. -- Regards, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: docx files
> > Hi, > > I received a file.docx made with office 2007 > > Is there any easy way to read it? > > I think that SUSE has a closed-source plugin for OOo. > Hummm, excuse my ignorence, what do you mean by closed-source ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: docx files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/07 15:14, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Hi, > I received a file.docx made with office 2007 > Is there any easy way to read it? I think that SUSE has a closed-source plugin for OOo. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fish, and he goes away for good! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHMkE/S9HxQb37XmcRAjACAKDGr6Mh00/OLRWHGnADdrH0pBna3ACePEUl O0H1DmjVWAL7ihwoLDxaSEA= =Ckw0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fglrx upgrade to 8.42.3
Chris Bannister ha scritto: On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 10:51:33AM +0100, Jonathan Kaye wrote: You will have to stop the x-server and then restart it. In fact I had to reboot (aaarhhh) in order for the module to install correctly. Try Instead of having to reboot, you might get away with just a dpkg-reconfigure No, you need to reboot because you recompile the kernel module. Still, there might a way to avoid this but a simple dpkg-reconfigure won't help. Davide -- A tautology is a thing which is tautological. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007, at 2:24 PM, John Masters wrote: On 13:15 Tue 06 Nov , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the same stuff is rehashed as it was a few months ago. Does this totally unscientific poll have any real use? Apart that is from reigniting the antediluvian arguments like mutt v emacs, bash v korn etc. Sheesh... sort by thread, delete key. Not difficult... There is a method to gauge the popularity of FLOSS apps built into every Debian installation. If you haven't enabled it yet, do so and eliminate this totally superfluous 'poll'. You might have mentioned that it's called "popularity-contest" and can be found via your favorite package manager. :-) Picture yourself standing in a big room with a hundred people all having different conversations... imaging yelling at the top of your lungs "I'm tired of hearing that group over there talking about that! I'M LEAVING!" Think anyone would, a) care?, b) not think you were insane? That's pretty much the equivalent of what most "I'm leaving the list" messages amount to. No one cares, we all just shake our heads and say, "There goes a very troubled person." -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe shared this with us all: >--} On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >--} > >--} mathematics: >--} >--} How does this work? Is it a mistake? >--} >--} > * Lyx >--} > >--} >--} > >--} misc utilities: >--} > * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, Unclutter, > probably --} >--} probably? Where does one get that? >--} >--} Sorry.. misinterpretation on my part.. thought it meant mathematical formulas [hangs head in shame] :-( -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ It is not enough to be busy. So are the ants. The question is: What are we busy about? ...Henry David Thoreau <<<> Debian - Just the best way to do magic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: audio editor: Audacity audio player: Amarok cd-ripper: Konqueror desktop OR window manager: KDE DBMS: MySQL, although just because I know it best. development: Emacs disc burner: K3b e-mail client: Thunderbird file manager: Konqueror finance: GNUCash ftp client: Konqueror image editor: GIMP image viewer: Konqueror instant messenger: Kopete misc utilities: dnsmasq (does a great job integrating a DNS caching server, private local DNS, and DHCP server, along with some other features useful for NATed networks, into one easy-to-configure daemon) package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: acroread still has the best compatibility and feature set...takes a long time to load, though. spreadsheet: OpenOffice.org terminal emulator: Geez, I dunno. Whatever comes up when I choose 'Terminal' from the KDE menu. ;) If you mean for talking to serial devices, I usually use 'screen'. text editor: Emacs video player: Mythplayer, or if I'm not using that, mplayer web browser: Firefox, or whatever reskinning of it happens to be handy. word-processor: OpenOffice.org, although I'm slowly moving towards Emacs + LaTeX for anything longer than a page or so. anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): Amarok and Konqueror have each replaced two or three other, individual packages for me, and they deserve kudos for integrating new functionality in ways that make intuitive sense. non-free: Well, the program I've been booting into Windows to run most often, lately, is Portal. ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm .. > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > add missing categories: > > audio editor: > * > > > audio player: > * > mplayer > cd-ripper: > * > dd > desktop OR window manager: > * > Xfce4 > DBMS: > * > > development: > * > Anjuta > disc burner: > * > cdrecord > e-mail client: > * > icedove > file manager: > * > konqueror > finance: > * > gnucash > ftp client: > * > gftp > image editor: > * > Gimp > image viewer: > * Kuikshow > > instant messenger: > * > Gaim / Pidgin > mathematics: > * > Hmm .. Kalgebra + OO math > misc utilities: > * > > news: > * > > p2p: > * > Azureus > package manager: > * > apt-get > pdf-reader: > * > kpdf > spreadsheet: > * > impress > tag editor: > * > > terminal emulator: > * > Konsole > text editor: > * > vim > video player: > * > mplayer > web browser: > * > lynx > word-processor: > * > vim > anything unreleased and anticipated: > * > Cad work : Brclad > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): > * > Gcc + Vim , > games: > * > > non-free: > * > > - -- - -- Could you at least use man ? Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com - -- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iQIVAwUBRzIvvW9p6JnF9I1qAQLAew//YZgwOktiMW8HtRglGBMA/J+jLaGNZRyC AmDigvma5/OHpq+jrmAdriw7mB43jsiGGMSmE3zSPC0DK7idtbXW6F4MxEDmAnVA PoTjlW2J6UuYRt2jNmyvK51UQHsS/EVlQ6mwa265ilq+1RFf++Jf3NZzq6wui7Dg 4wUXvPXKUHDG9783BkolG4UHjGjj62SarpolfhxNMJh77GnOjAHmXN3qI2sl6Uqe 3u5AxLdWS0HYpvuqd1XthhNBIyBcr8S91ahMqx5q9msfYzCxcVhIENMieP7WTVYp 5q3rNApapre7KeKZdScq07dCYqNFEHwnUwLQ/ri7YWCWAtt+cK9CZ6ozDGliv4Z9 XrTxywVV3AneBYo7r3H/SPR3wcrzpW5pKUGM16QKh8Nu1f2PM4w71/vkjp7flxsP CiF4uPLWJPiwXT5wu2pnJc/Ado3Lp+tSo2UsK5Ttu7ggI5l/l1LVk+gk7K2cVD9X 2ZPMkreD3yOYWahkrw0xL1LKXn+BA9yoEKkwJYs8QgPq8IP4cTHmFcpn0ZZ6MRru aM0fLyKFfStjAkORum12e0RG3fGbnXhtzcyn2wsQXgOU//Tiw5sEU45FXeY3DSRS ZPqd37wL3fWvTjrKjWSuix3+WF30RmXKIgEHQNz9/6g2RDDKFs9+luvPAQnAAHsQ hdikFdoQ+CU= =c07E -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 13:15 Tue 06 Nov , Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > add missing categories: > > Sorry but here's where I unsubscribe for a couple of months while the same stuff is rehashed as it was a few months ago. Does this totally unscientific poll have any real use? Apart that is from reigniting the antediluvian arguments like mutt v emacs, bash v korn etc. There is a method to gauge the popularity of FLOSS apps built into every Debian installation. If you haven't enabled it yet, do so and eliminate this totally superfluous 'poll'. -- Regards, John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to set page qouta in Cups ?
Hello,.. I tried to set page qouta in cups so a printer will only print n pages for each user in a day. to test this i used the Virtual Pdf printer (CUPS-PDF). i went to the console and using lpadmin i set the printer to job-page-limit = 1 : #/usr/sbin/lpadmin -p cups-pdf -o job-quota-period=86400 -o job-page-limit=1 then i restarted cupsys and started to print: each user could print as many pages and print jobs (and not only 1 per user as i wished). Thank you in advance -- -- Could you at least use man ? Jabka Atu (aka mha13/Mashrom Head) || bsh83.blogspot.com -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
docx files
Hi, I received a file.docx made with office 2007 Is there any easy way to read it? Thanks Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
> > Here's a template where you can fill in your > favourites; feel free to > > add missing categories: > > > > audio player: > > * > vlc > > > cd-ripper: > > * > (don't use much) > > > desktop OR window manager: > > * > KDE & fluxbox > > > development: > > * > bash > > > > > disc burner: > > * > k3b > > > > > e-mail client: > > * > yahoo > > > > > file manager: > > * > konqueror > > > image editor: > > * > GIMP > > > image viewer: > > * > Konqueror > > > mathematics: > > * > gnumeric > > > misc utilities: > > * > ISO master > > > > > news: > > * > (don't use) > > > > > package manager: > > * > aptitude > > > pdf-reader: > > * > konqueror > > > > > spreadsheet: > > * > gnumeric > > > tag editor: > > * > (don't use) > > > > > terminal emulator: > > * > yakuake > > > text editor: > > * > kate > > > video player: > > * > vlc > > > > > web browser: > > * > konqueror & lynx > > > word-processor: > > * > kate, kword > > > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): > > * > ISO master, DOSbox, gnash, menu > > > non-free: > > * > (don't use) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Dying
On Thu, 8 Nov 2007 06:33:30 +1000 "Adrian Levi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 08/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far. I'm running > > memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's > > okay. I'll let you know what I find. > > > > How long should I let it run? > > As long as you like but IMHO 1 complete cycle at a minimum. This > is expressed as 'passes' about halfway down the screen, Up the top > right you can see how far though each test and overall you are. > > Adrian > > > In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem. This is a brand > > new Etch install on a brand new (to me) server. > > Would be an easy solution... > > Adrian > It just finished the 2nd pass with no errors. I wonder if my next step is to force a reinstall of Apache? -- Raquel The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. --Niels Bohr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Lenny freezes in X
On Nov 6, 2007 12:59 PM, I wrote: > On a recently updated testing system, but using kernel 2.6.21 (because > I can't get the Cisco VPN client to compile with 2.6.22), I've had > intermittent freezes of X too. In fact, had one moment ago! I was > able to Ctl-Alt-F2 to a console, where I logged in and ran top, which > reported 1 zombie process, which, it turned out, was ld-linux.so.2. I > returned to the X console and used Ctrl-Backspace to end the session. > After restarting, I have no zombie processes. > > So, is it a problem with ld-linux.so.2, and, if so, what's the fix? I just read on the xfce users list that the problem is with xfwm4 and the gtk version in testing; it's fixed, I'm told, in the xfwm4 in unstable, which I have now installed and hope for the best! Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Dying
On 08/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far. I'm running > memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's okay. > I'll let you know what I find. > > How long should I let it run? As long as you like but IMHO 1 complete cycle at a minimum. This is expressed as 'passes' about halfway down the screen, Up the top right you can see how far though each test and overall you are. Adrian > In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem. This is a brand new > Etch install on a brand new (to me) server. Would be an easy solution... Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
This set of answers will probably bore everyone to death, but I really only use Linux for servers. Desktops are better done by others (Apple). On Nov 6, 2007, at 4:15 AM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to add missing categories: audio editor: Audacity audio player: N/A cd-ripper: N/A desktop OR window manager: KDE (when I have to - would rather use the Mac for GUI stuff) DBMS: Informix oops.. not FLOSS... MySQL then. :-) development: vim disc burner: cdrecord e-mail client: Apple Mail... oops... Thunderbird file manager: ls finance: Quicken... oops... N/A ftp client: ftp image editor: N/A image viewer: Firefox instant messenger: N/A mathematics: N/A misc utilities: find news: N/A p2p: Email with MIME attachments. (LOL!) package manager: aptitude pdf-reader: N/A spreadsheet: N/A tag editor: vim (?) terminal emulator: minicom text editor: vim video player: N/A web browser: Firefox/Ice-whatever word-processor: vim anything unreleased and anticipated: don't care :-) anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): everyone that writes code for free and gives it away -- huge kudos and bravo! games: Real-life... oops... N/A non-free: Mac OSX :-) -- Nate Duehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:38 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > evince, xpdf > > How come this is? What's the limitations of each? Evince is nice in that it remembers what slide you stopped at last time but it was a bit buggy in earlier versions, seems to work nicely now. Xpdf was the one I used when evince was buggy. I haven't seen any real limitations for either in my limited use of them. Bob -- Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Concordia University College of Alberta, 7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada. Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, 2007-07-11 at 21:23 +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > > > add missing categories: > > > > > > audio player: > > > * > > gnome-cd This a part of the gnome-media package. Not a big dealt, just a simple player. > How do I find this? > > > > video player: > > > * > > xmms > > Is there a video extension or this a mistake? Yes, my mistake I was thinking of audio not video. I don't do much with video so I suppose gxine. > > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph > > interesting twist > > > > presentations: > > > * > > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot > > Even more of an interesting twist. Are the results superior than those > of OOo impress? Is the workflow faster? I like these combinations since mostly I am text processing mathematics in latex and all the nice math can be used directly in powerdot to create very nice math powerpoint like slides in a pdf file. A bit of a learning curve but the results are worth it. The use of metapost and metagraph allow plots to be put directly in the tex file for processing through latex with and without powerdot. You can create very high quality math and graphs with this combination. > > Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, > Such credentials I can only dream of... It is just a lot of time and work to get them. Bob -- Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Concordia University College of Alberta, 7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada. Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > evince, xpdf How come this is? What's the limitations of each? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 7:58 PM, Tyler Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > tag editor: > > * > etags (or is there some other kind of tag?) What's that? Me not understand. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 8:34 PM, Robert Jerrard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > > add missing categories: > > > > audio player: > > * > gnome-cd How do I find this? > > video player: > > * > xmms Is there a video extension or this a mistake? > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph interesting twist > > presentations: > > * > emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot Even more of an interesting twist. Are the results superior than those of OOo impress? Is the workflow faster? > Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Such credentials I can only dream of... -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: shutdown problem : acpi_power_off freeze
Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 12:28:09PM +0100, Bruno Costacurta wrote: > >> Hello to all, >> >> when I shutdown my computer it doesn't turn off but freeze with the >> message 'acpi_power_off called'. >> However the shutdown was working before I re-config my ALSA sounds (via >> alsaconf) and indeed I have a vague remember reading something in the past >> like acpi has / have some problems with alsa which might block a complete >> shutdown like in my case. >> > > In order to pinpoint the problem you could remove the alsa modules > first. > > Regards, > Andrei > Strange. I had exactly the same problem and I found out it was the intel sound modules... So I wrote a simple /etc/init.d/ script which unloaded them just before the shutdown. The strange thing is that after a pretty recent kernel upgrade, I found that that was fixed, so I deleted my custom script. Are you using an old kernel? (I am now using the 2.6.22-2-686). Giorgos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which browser is better, firefox?
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:52:43PM +0800, Kenlen wrote: >> recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. . >> > > I tried w3m but I couldn't get it to work. IIRC its just that its a > different key commands so its a new learning curve. Since I didn't see > what it would do better I didn't bother trying to learn it and > uninstalled w3m instead. I love text browsers, and generally prefer them if something else isn't absolutely required. Having tried all I can I have consistently found elinks to be the best performer of the lot. It has the most flexible configurations, with all the best features of the others combined into one (with the exception of javascript and https I think). It has features such as tabs, a status bar (with a clock), 256 color support, tables, and so on. It can even set the background color to that of the original page which can be quite cool in many instances (if you're not reading slashdot). If one is really doing a lot of text browsing elinks is very much worth the look. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Deletion of files from usb-key
I have a SamDisk USB-key filled with photos (.png) which I used for a slide show. I now would like to delete them, but whenever the device is rebooted, the files reappear. $ ls -la /media/usb-key rwxr-xr-x file.png /brownh/brownh ... Although the files are readable, I find that chown can't change them: # chown brownh:brownh chown: cannot access '': No such file or directory failed to change ownership of `filename*' to brownh:brownh I also find that I can't change permissions. At present are: xwxr-xr-x brownh/brownh If I try to remove the files: # rm -f /media/usb-key/*.* The files disappear. The ls command shows nothing. However, if I unmount and remount, the files are back (and shown in green in xterm, which is not normal). Also, if I chanmge filenames and extensions for the files, when I reboot, the original name and extension reappears. In desperation I try: $ shred -fuv /media/usb-key *.* shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 1/25 (random)... shred: /media/usb-key/ : fdatasync failed: Input/output error shred: /media/usb-key/: pass 2/25 (88)... shred: /media/usb-key/: fdatasync failed: Input/output error ... and also tried: # mformat -v /dev/sdd1 It failed to run, perhaps because the usb-key has no unix low-level format. And I also tried: # fdisk /dev/sdd1 I print the partition table: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System This suggests there is no partition at present. So I add a partition (primary, number 1, cylinders 1-1088. Now I print this and have: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 11008 499937 83 Linux And I change the type to 4 and print again: Disk /dev/sdd1: 512 MB, 512443392 bytes 16 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1008 cylinders Units = cylinders of 992 * 512 = 507904 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 11008 4999374 FAT16 <32M And write and quit (w command): The partition table has been altered! Calling ioctl() to re-read partition table. WARNING: Re-reading the partition table failed with error 22: Invalid argument. The kernel still uses the old table. The new table will be used at the next reboot. WARNING: If you have created or modified any DOS 6.x partitions, please see the fdisk manual page for additional information. Syncing disks. Well, I tried: # sfdisk /dev/sdd1 Checking that no-one is using this disk right now ... BLKRRPART: Invalid argument OK Warning: start=62 - this looks like a partition rather than the entire disk. Using fdisk on it is probably meaningless. [Use the --force option if you really want this] When I use sfdisk with --force option, ... Disk /dev/sdd1: 1008 cylinders, 16 heads, 62 sectors/track Old situation: Units = cylinders of 507904 bytes, blocks of 1024 bytes, counting from 0 Device Boot Start End #cyls#blocks Id System /dev/sdd1p1 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p2 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p3 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p4 0 - 0 00 Empty /dev/sdd1p1 : Next I try: # mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdd1 mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) But my files still there. Fsck didn't help. My guess is that I need a low level format, but I have no idea how to do that for a usb-key. Is it usually done with a proprietary low-level format utility? Haines Brown, KB1GRM -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > add missing categories: > > audio player: > * gnome-cd > cd-ripper: > * grip > desktop OR window manager: > * metacity > development: > * emacs, gcc, bash, make > > e-mail client: > * evolution > > file manager: > * nautilus > image editor: > * gimp > image viewer: > * gthumb > mathematics: > * maxima + texmacs as front-end > > package manager: > * aptitude, apt-get > pdf-reader: > * evince, xpdf > > spreadsheet: > * gnumeric > > terminal emulator: > * gnome-terminal > text editor: > * emacs > video player: > * xmms > > web browser: > * iceweasel > word-processor: > * emacs + LaTeX > word-processor with graphs: > * emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph > presentations: > * emacs + LaTeX + metapost + metagraph + powerdot -- Dr. Robert J. Jerrard, Professor of Mathematics, Concordia University College of Alberta, 7128 Ada Blvd., Edmonton, Alberta, T5B 4E4, Canada. Phone: (780) 479-9291, Fax: (780) 474-1933. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 2007-11-06, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's a template where you can fill in your favourites; feel free to > add missing categories: > > audio player: > * amarok > cd-ripper: > * cdparanoia > desktop OR window manager: > * fluxbox > development: > * emacs, gcc, bash, make > > disc burner: > * k3b > > e-mail client: > * mutt > > file manager: > * bash/mv/cp/rm/mkdir > image editor: > * inkscape, gimp > image viewer: > * image magic > mathematics: > * R (with Emacs and ESS) > misc utilities: > * svn > > news: > * slrn > > package manager: > * aptitude > pdf-reader: > * xpdf > > spreadsheet: > * R, Emacs > tag editor: > * etags (or is there some other kind of tag?) > > terminal emulator: > * xterm > text editor: > * emacs > video player: > * gxine > > web browser: > * iceweasel, w3m > word-processor: > * Emacs + LaTeX > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): > * Emacs, R, GRASS > non-free: > * Crossover Office, Paup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Dying
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:04:26 +1000 "Adrian Levi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I give up. I've spent all day, and part of yesterday, googling > > and haven't been able to fix a thing. > > Are you able to run memtest86+ on the box, every time I have had > weird problems with daemons dying it has been due to flaky ram. > > Might be worth ruling out. > > Adrian > Thank you, everone, for your help ... so far. I'm running memtest86+ on the machine right now and, so far, everything's okay. I'll let you know what I find. How long should I let it run? In a way I hope that a bad chip is the problem. This is a brand new Etch install on a brand new (to me) server. -- Raquel I am for freedom of religion, & against all maneuvres to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another. --Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On 2007-11-07, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 10:19 AM, Emre Sevinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): >> gcc, tex, latex > > Should I suppose that TeX and LaTeX is about the same thing? > More or less. LaTeX is a (large) set of extensions to the basic TeX language. Tyler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
terminals with tabs very slow to resize in compiz
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Re: Why kernel 2.6.23 does not appear in sid packages?
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 02:31:11AM +0100, Mathias Brodala wrote: > Hi. > > Magicloud Magiclouds, 07.11.2007 02:18: > >It has been a long time > >Also, I think sid's packages update little these days. Does this mean > > a new stable? > > Being a Sid user you should be subscribed to debian-devel-announce: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/11/msg1.html The problem seems to be solved (at least I got upgrades). Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
--- Steve Kleene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL > service via a Netgear hub > (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, > the machine lost its > network connection to the outside world. It seems > to be a software problem. > It had been fine since I built it in January. > > Here's what I know: > > 1. If I boot from the XP partition, I have full > internet service anywhere I >try. So the hardware seems OK. There is only > one NIC. > 2. Running Etch, I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) > and check its software >configuration in iceweasel. The router > configuration is the same as it's >always been. It shows that the router has > received an IP address >(10.something) from the ISP. > 3. I cannot ping or otherwise reach any site past > the router by name or by IP >address. If I try, it times out. > 4. Rebooting doesn't help. > 5. The output of "ifconfig -a" looks normal. It > shows eth0 on 192.168.0.4, >UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST. I can post the > whole output if necessary. > 6. I haven't done any upgrades with apt since five > days ago, which is clearly >before the problem started. > 7. Nothing jumps out at me from dmesg or > /var/log/messages. > 8. I found the iceweasel cache files from my last > successful browsing. Then >I used find to list every file on the system that > had been modified since >then. Again, I didn't recognize anything scary. > > I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue > chasing this down. It may > go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only > connection now is at > work. > > Thanks. > > i had a similar problem here, i run my internet through a cable connection, and had mysteriously lost the ability to connect to the internet. Probably a completely diffrent cause but i would check dbus i have found that it wants to shut itself off and ignores me everytime that i tell it to start running on startup (which i have set the last several times that i have booted up) anyway hope that helps, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ssh port not opening
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:26:46PM -0500, Vikki Roemer wrote: > I'm running Etch, and when I did apt-get install ssh it just installed > the ssh client. I had to install the server separately. $ apt-cache depends ssh ssh Depends: openssh-client Depends: openssh-server If you only got openssh-client then there was some problem. Can you reproduce that? Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:49:10 -0500, I wrote: > My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub > (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its > network connection to the outside world. It seems to be a software problem. > ... > I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down. On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 10:04:53 -0500, Douglas A. Tutty replied: > Are you pinging by IP or DNS name? Try by IP to remove the possibility > of a DNS problem. From a box that does work, ping debian.org and get > the IP. Then from the problem box, ping that IP and see if it goes > through. If it does, then its a DNS problem. I tried both IP address and FQDN (name) and couldn't get to either. I will try pinging debian.org, which resolves to 192.25.206.10 where I am now. (I can't get a response from there from my work PC at the moment, but I think my university firewall may block all outside ping packets. Ping has worked from home until the new problem.) Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 08:49:10 -0500, I wrote: > My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub > (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its > network connection to the outside world. It seems to be a software problem. > ... > I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down. On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 15:07:44 +0100 (CET), Sergio Perticone replied: > Is /etc/resolv.conf okay? You could try to add to it: > > nameserver 192.168.0.1 Thanks, but I did check that and it had just the line you suggested. I'll check out the other suggestions I received when I get home tonight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 5:54 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:59:53PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > emacs (comes with a free operating system) > > > > Me don't understand. > > charlie already answered this better than I could. > > > > > > killer app: > > > screen -x > > > > > > killer app enabler: > > > ssh > > > > Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these > > two in "anything deserving great honours". > > okay fine, put it under there, but I'm disappointed that you won't > make extra categories just for me!! ;-) I like the categories anyways, for they are so unique, and me hopes some will list some of their favourites under that, and if not it will have to go to the cateogry of the truly honourable. (side note) Someone in the past mentioned Meld as the killer app of Linux-based systems IE. it prompted such a user to move from something else, perhaps Windows. > > A > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFHMd/RaIeIEqwil4YRApJsAKCMbRRQ/SAisRn7rQU1YyNcc2aNqgCfTnXT > rGokc06opXoKnS1V3oeADzQ= > =pbd1 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 5:13 PM, charlie derr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> emacs (comes with a free operating system) > > > > Me don't understand. > > > > The long-standing joke is that emacs is a great editor, but a mediocre > operating system. Most often pitted against its arch-rival > vi in religious wars, emacs is (in that context) somewhat "bloated" according > to its detractors. The fact that one can do email, > webbrowsing, and work in a command-line environment simultaneously (all of > that and much more without ever leaving emacs) is what > has given rise to this mythos. That makes me want to try out the mighty and legendary Emacs, the poster child of the GNU project. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which browser is better, firefox?
On Thu, Nov 08, 2007 at 09:52:43PM +0800, Kenlen wrote: > recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. . > I tried w3m but I couldn't get it to work. IIRC its just that its a different key commands so its a new learning curve. Since I didn't see what it would do better I didn't bother trying to learn it and uninstalled w3m instead. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 10:19 AM, Emre Sevinc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > anything deserving great honours (EG. GCC): > gcc, tex, latex Should I suppose that TeX and LaTeX is about the same thing? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Dying
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:16:11AM -0800, Raquel wrote: > On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:04:26 +1000 > "Adrian Levi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 07/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I give up. I've spent all day, and part of yesterday, googling > > > and haven't been able to fix a thing. > > > > Are you able to run memtest86+ on the box, every time I have had > > weird problems with daemons dying it has been due to flaky ram. > > > > Might be worth ruling out. > > > > Adrian > > > > Do I just install that from the repository and run it in a tty? > yes and no. to run it you must add it to grub's menu.lst (maybe this is done automatically? There is an option in menu.lst for it anyway. And reboot into memtest and then be prepared to wait... A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:59:53PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > emacs (comes with a free operating system) > > Me don't understand. charlie already answered this better than I could. > > > killer app: > > screen -x > > > > killer app enabler: > > ssh > > Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these > two in "anything deserving great honours". okay fine, put it under there, but I'm disappointed that you won't make extra categories just for me!! ;-) A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > It is not clear as to whether we should reply to you personally or post it > on the d-u list. So I will just post it to the list... The list is better actually. > > mathematics: > > Can't understand what you mean by this... Anything working with mathematics, like calculators and so on, same as you've listed below... > maxima, texmacs, gnuplot, octave (many programs are coming to my mind)... Is this your selection? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 08:49:10AM -0500, Steve Kleene wrote: > My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub > (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its > network connection to the outside world. It seems to be a software problem. > It had been fine since I built it in January. > > Here's what I know: > > 1. If I boot from the XP partition, I have full internet service anywhere I >try. So the hardware seems OK. There is only one NIC. > 2. Running Etch, I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) and check its software >configuration in iceweasel. The router configuration is the same as it's >always been. It shows that the router has received an IP address >(10.something) from the ISP. > 3. I cannot ping or otherwise reach any site past the router by name or by IP >address. If I try, it times out. Are you pinging by IP or DNS name? Try by IP to remove the possibility of a DNS problem. From a box that does work, ping debian.org and get the IP. Then from the problem box, ping that IP and see if it goes through. If it does, then its a DNS problem. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: salome in debian etch
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:30:22AM -0800, David Fox wrote: > On Nov 5, 2007 3:19 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What is salome? > > Daughter of Herodias, Princess of Judea. > > Ooh can I have herod? > > :) > > sorry > I thought she was daughter of Balone. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 7, 2007 4:32 AM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > web browser: > lynx, konqueror, + iceweasel (in i386 chroot for flash, javascript, plus > a couple of sites that won't work on konq). This makes me curious why i386 chroot? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: what's your favourite FLOSS?
-Original Message- From: Tshepang Lekhonkhobe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 10:23 AM To: Keith O'Brien Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: what's your favourite FLOSS? On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM, Keith O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--} word-processor: > * Vim/OOo Do you regard Vim a word processor, or is there something more? It falls short of a modern Word-Processor, but it does everything I need most of the time. According to wikipedia vi does not cut the mustered as a word-processor. -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com This message is the property of R/GA and contains information which may be privileged or confidential. It is meant only for the intended recipients and/or their authorized agents. If you believe you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by return e-mail or by forwarding this message to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and destroy any printed or electronic copies of the message. Any unauthorized use, dissemination, disclosure, or copying of this message or the information contained in it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you.
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. > killer app: > screen -x > > killer app enabler: > ssh Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these two in "anything deserving great honours". -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 11:27 PM, Keith O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--} word-processor: > * Vim/OOo Do you regard Vim a word processor, or is there something more? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 PM, Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >--} mathematics: How does this work? Is it a mistake? > * Lyx > >--} > >--} misc utilities: > * Dia, VYM, K9copy, CDcat, Gkrellm, Kerry Beagle, Quanta, Unclutter, probably probably? Where does one get that? -- my place on the web: floss-and-misc.blogspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: salome in debian etch
On Nov 5, 2007 3:19 PM, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What is salome? Daughter of Herodias, Princess of Judea. Ooh can I have herod? :) sorry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: emacs (comes with a free operating system) Me don't understand. The long-standing joke is that emacs is a great editor, but a mediocre operating system. Most often pitted against its arch-rival vi in religious wars, emacs is (in that context) somewhat "bloated" according to its detractors. The fact that one can do email, webbrowsing, and work in a command-line environment simultaneously (all of that and much more without ever leaving emacs) is what has given rise to this mythos. Personally I feel that any editor that can't do M-x psychoanalyze-pinhead is woefully incomplete, but that's just me (and I hate getting stuck on a system where all that's available is vi), and this probably isn't the place or time to re-ignite that never ending religious war... be well, ~c -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dell PowerEdge 2950 server with PERC 5/i RAID controller
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 11:31:26AM +0100, Samuel Krieg wrote: > Maarten Vink a ?crit : > > > > Apart from that omreport will also give you information on fan speeds, > > temperature, installed hardware, etc. It also installs an SNMP agent > > that allows you to monitor RAID status, fan speeds, temperature, etc via > > SNMP. The SNMP agent is disabled by default, but is easy to setup. We > > use this both for monitoring and to graph fan speeds and temperature > > with cacit. > > > > For more useful info on using Debian on Dell hardware see > > http://linux.dell.com/debian_9g.shtml > > > > Hello, > > These packages look very intersting but I'm still using Sarge (kmuto.jp > kernel) on my Poweredge boxes. > > Do you know if this repository will work on Sarge? It doesn't work with 2.4 kernels :-( -- Pigeon Be kind to pigeons- -Pigeon's Nest: http://pigeonsnest.co.uk/ GPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x21C61F7F signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Etch and Audio CDs
Am 2007-10-29 16:17:22, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty: > On Sat, Oct 27, 2007 at 11:48:07PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > cdda2wav > > > > ...and leave it running up to the time when it exited > > normaly after writing 100 errors on my console. > > How long does this take? between 5 and 15 minutes... > Patience is a virtue with which you are well endowed. :-) Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Tamay Dogan Network -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 50, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi 0033/6/6192519367100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
Steve Kleene wrote: My Etch machine at home is connected to a DSL service via a Netgear hub (router) at home. Sometime in the last two days, the machine lost its network connection to the outside world. It seems to be a software problem. It had been fine since I built it in January. Here's what I know: 1. If I boot from the XP partition, I have full internet service anywhere I try. So the hardware seems OK. There is only one NIC. 2. Running Etch, I can ping the router (192.168.0.1) and check its software configuration in iceweasel. The router configuration is the same as it's always been. It shows that the router has received an IP address (10.something) from the ISP. 3. I cannot ping or otherwise reach any site past the router by name or by IP address. If I try, it times out. What is the output of "route -n"? there should be an entry which looks like 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 . eth0 4. Rebooting doesn't help. 5. The output of "ifconfig -a" looks normal. It shows eth0 on 192.168.0.4, UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST. I can post the whole output if necessary. 6. I haven't done any upgrades with apt since five days ago, which is clearly before the problem started. 7. Nothing jumps out at me from dmesg or /var/log/messages. 8. I found the iceweasel cache files from my last successful browsing. Then I used find to list every file on the system that had been modified since then. Again, I didn't recognize anything scary. I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down. It may go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only connection now is at work. Thanks. -- Raj Kiran Grandhi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mysterious loss of internet connection
Steve Kleene wrote: I'd appreciate any suggestions on how to continue chasing this down. It may go slowly, since the problem is at home but my only connection now is at work. - I'd check the output of "route -n": is "0.0.0.0" going to the router's ip? - try "tcpdump -i eth0 -p -n" during pinging of outside adresses, that may give a clue (are the addresses correct, are packages returned, ..?) - if you can attach to the DSL directly, bypassing the Netgear hub, try this (assuming the DLS comes with an ethernet connector or so and you've got a dhcp client installed)? (Maybe nowadays some devices are doing remote firmware upgrades and that's the problem?) Christian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Apache2 Dying
On Wed, 7 Nov 2007 22:04:26 +1000 "Adrian Levi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 07/11/2007, Raquel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I give up. I've spent all day, and part of yesterday, googling > > and haven't been able to fix a thing. > > Are you able to run memtest86+ on the box, every time I have had > weird problems with daemons dying it has been due to flaky ram. > > Might be worth ruling out. > > Adrian > Do I just install that from the repository and run it in a tty? -- Raquel In all affairs it's a healthy thing now and then to hang a question mark on the things you have long taken for granted. --Bertrand Russell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which browser is better, firefox?
recommend w3m... I think better than lynx. . Best Regards From: Kenlen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dotan Cohen Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 9:41 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Which browser is better, firefox? On 07/11/2007, Douglas A. Tutty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dillo is nice but it doesn't do javascript or https. Links2 does text > mode or graphical mode and does javascript and https. That's what is nice about it (the non-js, not the non-https). > Unless I need graphics or javascript, for textmode I use Lynx. > I use lynx a lot. It's fast, and the clean UI is very refreshing. No flash! (firefox has flashblock, too) Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
Re: what's your favourite FLOSS?
On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 06:08:04PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > On Nov 7, 2007 5:54 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 07, 2007 at 04:59:53PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 2007 8:53 PM, Andrew Sackville-West > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > emacs (comes with a free operating system) > > > > > > Me don't understand. > > > > charlie already answered this better than I could. > > > > > > > > > killer app: > > > > screen -x > > > > > > > > killer app enabler: > > > > ssh > > > > > > Interesting categories, but would it not be appropriate to put these > > > two in "anything deserving great honours". > > > > okay fine, put it under there, but I'm disappointed that you won't > > make extra categories just for me!! ;-) I was jsut kidding there... > > I like the categories anyways, for they are so unique, and me hopes > some will list some of their favourites under that, and if not it will > have to go to the cateogry of the truly honourable. (side note) > Someone in the past mentioned Meld as the killer app of Linux-based > systems IE. it prompted such a user to move from something else, > perhaps Windows. actually for me that was gnucash. I was staring down the barrel of yet another Quickbooks forced upgrade while watching it make calculation errors in my payrolls. I found gnucash while oking around in a knoppix cd and although it wasn't a complete replacement for quickbooks, it was enough. I've never run windows since except when I have to get historical data from that locked up quickbooks install. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature
