Re: maturedebs: sightly stable unstable

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 01:48:14PM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Gentlemen, why not let the others get cut on the cutting edge of
> Debian sid whilst we relax and wait oh, say 72 hours for the packages
> we want to stabilize? Slightly stable unstable, but not too stable as
> to be stale as stable.

Isn't that what testing is for?

[Not that I often find unstable to actually be unstable].

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maturedebs: sightly stable unstable

[jidanni]

Gentlemen, why not let the others get cut on the cutting edge of
Debian sid whilst we relax and wait oh, say 72 hours for the packages
we want to stabilize? Slightly stable unstable, but not too stable as
to be stale as stable.

Sure, man apt.conf mentions Max-Age, but that is only for index files
and we want Min-Age anyway. Anyway, here we go:

#!/usr/bin/perl
# maturedebs -
# Choose slightly more stable Debian unstable (sid) packages:
# Given a list of .deb URIs, one per line on STDIN,
# output the ones that are older than ARGV[0] hours:
# $0 hours < URIs
# Copyright   : http://www.fsf.org/copyleft/gpl.html
# By: Dan Jacobson  http://jidanni.org/
# Last Modified On: Thu Feb  7 13:27:13 2008
# Update Count: 42
use strict;
use warnings FATAL => 'all';
use HTTP::Request;
use HTTP::Date;
use LWP::UserAgent;
use HTTP::Status;
my $r = HTTP::Request->new( HEAD => );
$r->header( 'If-Modified-Since', time2str( time - ( pop @ARGV ) * 60 * 60 ) );
my $ua = LWP::UserAgent->new;

while (<>) {
$r->uri($_);
print if ( $ua->request($r)->code == RC_NOT_MODIFIED );
}

Use it like
$ apt-get --print-uris -yy -qq dselect-upgrade|
perl -nwle "/'(.*)'/&&print \$1"|maturedebs 72|xargs wget
or something etc. etc. perhaps. Just a start.
Step two is then apt-get --no-download --fix-missing etc.
Sorry. See ya. Bye.


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Re: Unable to install debian via netinst.iso CD,

[narendra sisodiya]

On Feb 7, 2008 7:31 AM, Raj Kiran Grandhi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> narendra sisodiya wrote:
> >
> > All 3 Repo are working fine on other system ,, by adding 3 lines in
> > sources,list file
> >
> > but we have to install using local server while installing,,, rather
> > then getting console and installing many things 
> >
>
> It could be because of the gpg authentication. Try passing the parameter
> debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true (either =true or =1, not
> sure, google it up a bit)
>
> Alternatively, you can use debmirror to set up a partial mirror and get
> the gpg authentication mechanism working.
>
> > --
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> >
>
>
> --
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>
>
Thanks i will check this out.

Re: vim + LaTeX (Was: What am I missing without mutt?)

[s. keeling]

Steve Lamb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  s. keeling wrote:
> > Just curious, but what's wrong with breaking it up by chapters and
> > figuring out how to merge it all together later?  "lpr chap*" too much
> > to remember?
> 
>  Now email that ream of paper.

s/lpr/mutt -a chap* .../


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Huge fonts: X / KDE may be ignoring DisplaySize

[Edward C. Jones]

I use up-to-date Debian unstable, amd64 port, on my pc. I use KDE. The
monitor is an Acer AL2016W. The graphics board is an nVidia GeForce FX 5500.
I usually do not reboot after running synaptic to update my system.

When I rebooted on 2/6, I found that much of the text in KDE was in huge
fonts. X or KDE seemed to be ignoring the DisplaySize command in xorg.conf.
I found two threads in in the debian-x mailing list for Jan 08 that may be
relevant. The first is "Bug#461501: xserver-xorg-core: dpi set to 96 inspite
of DisplaySize option". The second is "Bug#461457: xorg: Doesn't honour
DisplaySize".

What should I do to fix my problem?

Here are parts of Xorg.0.log and xorg.conf:

/var/log/Xorg.0.log:

(**) NV(0): Display dimensions: (430, 270) mm
(**) NV(0): DPI set to (148, 216)

/etc/X11/xorg.conf:

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier  "AL2016W"
   Option  "DPMS"
   DisplaySize 430 270
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier  "Default Screen"
   Device  "nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500]"
   Monitor "AL2016W"
   DefaultDepth24
...
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth   24
   Modes   "1680x1050" "1280x1024" "1152x864" 
"1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"

   Virtual 2520 2304


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Re: Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

[Daniel Burrows]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 02:59:28PM -0500, dick thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was 
heard to say:
> I am too.  What happens is that Iceweasel starts off fine and then  
> randomly drops out completely.  You can bring it right back up but it  
> just seems to randomly hiccup.  I am not doing anything special at the  
> time at all, just surfing.  I get no message that it is timing out or  
> anything else.  It is maddening.  It does not happen with Firefox on any  
> of my other O/S (Ubuntu, Sabayon, BlueWhite64, Wolvix, Slackware), only  
> with Iceweasel and Debian.  I am running the Sidux version right now and  
> am up to date on the updates.

  Do you have the Flash plugin installed?  That seems to be implicated
in something like 99.995% of the Firefox crashes I personally
experience.

  Daniel


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Re: Non-understood advice - was Re: dist-upgrade from sarge to etch - package

[Daniel Burrows]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:53:48PM +0100, Florian Kulzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
was heard to say:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 20:34:14 +, Felix Karpfen wrote:
> > On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:54:08 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > > Check for non-Debian packages on your system by running:
> > > 
> > > aptitude search '~i!~Odebian'
> > 
> > As an aptitude-novice, I tried the above command on my
> > fully-operational upgrade from Sarge to Etch.  It gave a long list of
> > installed packages - almost all of which were part of the Debian
> > install.
> 
> What does your sources.list look like? I could understand this behavior
> if you had non-Debian archives included that provide packages with the
> same names as official packages. (The backports archive would be an
> example.) The above search term matches any packet that is installed and
> that has a non-Debian version in one of the archives known by apt; this
> non-Debian version does not have to be the one that is actually
> installed. If you want to avoid this ambiguity then you have to add the
> version narrowing operator:

  Packages that are obsolete are IIRC considered to have no origin,
because they aren't included in any known package archive.  You could
try searching for '~i!~Odebian!~o instead, maybe.

> > The generated list included one of the two non-Debian packages (opera)-
> > deleted during the install and replaced subsequently. It failed to find
> > the only other non-Debian package (vuescan).
> 
> How did you install vuescan? Maybe it does not properly identify itself
> as non-Debian.

  Any package that isn't in an archive with Origin: Debian will be
matched by that expression; whoever provides the vuescan package would
have had to go out of their way to label their archive as being a Debian
archive in order for this to happen.  "apt-cache policy vuescan" and/or
"apt-cache showpkg vuescan" might give a hint about what's happening.

  Daniel


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Re: Iceweasel problems - YouTube infiltration

[Mihira Fernando]

Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

Well, just ran into a another frequent problem.

I just re-booted and restarted Iceweasel. (22 windows,
I don't know how many tabs.) I had a bad feeling as
soon as I saw that all the favicons were YouTube.
There you go. As others reported before, Flash doesn't play nicely on 
Iceweasel. 22 youtube windows will certainly crash Iceweasel.
This is a behavior I have noticed on Iceweasel as well. Load flash 
intensive pages or lots of pages that has flash components in Iceweasel 
and the weasel looses its cool and crashes. Sometimes it just freezes 
other times it terminates on its own.
However upon restarting Iceweasel it asks to restore the crashed session 
or start a new session. If you don't get that prompt, then your 
configuration has deviated from the default.




Everytime I try to get an internet page, either refresh
or new link, I get the following message, and no page.

Not Found

The requested URL /~joyce/album/ was not found
on this server.
Apache Server at www.youtube.com Port 80

It appears that it is really sending the request to
YouTube. I have no idea why!

Youtube is using flash. That's the reason.



Thanks for any help!

Dennis


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Re: low-MHz server

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:34:25PM -0700, Travis Crook wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:59:25 -0500
> "Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> 
> > > Possibly the requester will not like also your suggestion since the
> > > request was to stay below 200 MHz.
> > Below 200 MHz and run current Debian or OpenBSD.  
> > 
> I've got a dual Pentium 133Mhz machine sitting in my basement.  I'll
> have to dig up the specs on it.  ATA powersupply, AT keyboard, 9
> pin serial mouse, etc.  I'll ship it to you if you want it.  I was able
> to get Smoothwall installed on it as it was supposed to be a backup
> firewall, so Linux whatever should install on it.
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> Visions Beyond
> www.VisionsBeyond.com
> 208-478-7836

Thanks.  I'll email you directly.

Doug.


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Re: Switching from ipw3945 to iwl3945 driver]

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Mon, Feb 04, 2008 at 03:37:00PM +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> On 04 Feb 2008, Peter Jordan wrote:
> > Anthony Campbell, 02/04/08 10:34:
> > 
> > > On 03 Feb 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Feb 03, 2008 at 09:03:03 +, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >> [...]
> > >>
> > >> The ipw3945 driver requires closed-source components and has been
> > >> deprecated by Intel, the only party that has access to the full source
> > >> code and hardware specifications. The kernel developers, on the other
> > >> hand, generally don't care very much about breaking proprietary drivers
> > >> with newer versions of the kernel, especially if there is an alternative
> > >> available in the normal kernel tree. 
> > >>
> > >> -- 
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately there does not seem to be an alternative for me. I had
> > > another go at it last night. I set up things according to the advice on
> > > the above site. Everything looked correct according to "ip a" and
> > > "/etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules", but nothing happened: the
> > > indicator light never flickered to show the netwerk card was trying to
> > > connect. This is what has always happened previously when I've tried to
> > > use iwl3945. And I get this message:
> > > 
> > >   wlan0: unknown hardware address type 801.
> > > 
> > > I googled for this and found some people on Ubuntu getting the same
> > > thing but no obvious clue to what is wrong.
> > > 
> > > Anthony
> > > 
> > 
> > The led function will be implemented later.
> > Make sure, dhcp3-client is installed. That solved all my problems with
> > iwl3945.
> > 
> > PJ
> 
> I already have dhcp3-client. I tried again, and no longer get the
> "unknown hardware address type 801" error, which is progress of a
sort,

I get those errors on my laptop, but they seem unrelated to actual
function of the card. It seems to work despite them

> I suppose. According to iwconfig and syslog the card has been detected
> and appears to be working but it is not connecting. And I have "wlan0:
> no wireless extensions."

I think that means that the card is not "on". Look in
/sys/class/mumblemumblemumble/iwl3945/device/rf_kill. It should be 0
for the card to be on, 1 for the card to be off, by way of the radio
control button/switch on your machine. 

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Re: Unable to install debian via netinst.iso CD,

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

narendra sisodiya wrote:


All 3 Repo are working fine on other system ,, by adding 3 lines in 
sources,list file


but we have to install using local server while installing,,, rather 
then getting console and installing many things 




It could be because of the gpg authentication. Try passing the parameter 
debian-installer/allow_unauthenticated=true (either =true or =1, not 
sure, google it up a bit)


Alternatively, you can use debmirror to set up a partial mirror and get 
the gpg authentication mechanism working.



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Re: truecrypt 5

[Alex Samad]

Oh did not know about the licensing thing.

As for compiling, well I have run into the wxWidgets 2.8 issue

Alex


On 2008-02-07 01:43, Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:
> Alex Samad wrote:
> > so does any one have a deb for amd64
> > and does this now mean that it can be incorporated into the normal
repo's ?
> > 
> 
> It is unlikely that truecrypt will be incorporated into the 'main' repo 
> since its license is incompatible with DFSG.
> 
> Atleast till the license issues are sorted out.
> 
> I have not tried it yet, but I suppose it should be possible to just 
> download the source and compile it?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: truecrypt 5

[Raj Kiran Grandhi]

Alex Samad wrote:

so does any one have a deb for amd64
and does this now mean that it can be incorporated into the normal repo's ?



It is unlikely that truecrypt will be incorporated into the 'main' repo 
since its license is incompatible with DFSG.


Atleast till the license issues are sorted out.

I have not tried it yet, but I suppose it should be possible to just 
download the source and compile it?


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Re: low-MHz server

[Travis Crook]

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:59:25 -0500
"Douglas A. Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:


> > Possibly the requester will not like also your suggestion since the
> > request was to stay below 200 MHz.

> > 
> 
> Below 200 MHz and run current Debian or OpenBSD.  
> 
> Doug.
> 
I've got a dual Pentium 133Mhz machine sitting in my basement.  I'll
have to dig up the specs on it.  ATA powersupply, AT keyboard, 9
pin serial mouse, etc.  I'll ship it to you if you want it.  I was able
to get Smoothwall installed on it as it was supposed to be a backup
firewall, so Linux whatever should install on it.


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truecrypt 5

[Alex Samad]

Hi

seems like the new version of truecrypt doesn't need any kernel modes, it uses 
fuse.  The site only has a i386 version and the source doesn't have the file to 
make a deb.


so does any one have a deb for amd64
and does this now mean that it can be incorporated into the normal repo's ?

alex

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Re: Problems with apache2 and charsets

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le Wednesday 06 February 2008 23:45:34 Carles Pagès, vous avez écrit :
> Hello,
>
> My apache seems to ignore the charset meta data in the html files, so
> iso-8859-1 htmls are not properly displayed. If I store them in utf-8,
> then there is no problem, even if iso-8859-1 is specified in the meta
> headers.
>
> If I specify the default charset in the apache conf file to be
> iso-8859-1 then the iso pages are shown correctly but not utf-8 ones.
>
> So, does anyone know what could be causing this behaviour? I'm using
> apache2 in debian stable, if that helps.
>
> Thanks in advance.

UTF8 is a forced default in Debian's Apache2.
To make apache respect meta tags, comment that line :

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset
# Read the documentation before enabling AddDefaultCharset.
# In general, it is only a good idea if you know that all your files
# have this encoding. It will override any encoding given in the files
# in meta http-equiv or xml encoding tags.

#AddDefaultCharset UTF-8



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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Steve Lamb]

Joe wrote:
> On 12:28 Wed 06 Feb , Steve Lamb wrote:
>> In mutt (as of, say, 4 months ago when I last tried) it will copy then
>> delete message 1... then copy and delete message 2... then copy and
>> delete message 3...  Taking about 1/2 second each.  So on a 25 message
>> operation mutt will take 12 seconds to do what TBird does in no more
>> than 2.  Even worse is that is without network lag as the mutt operation
>> was carried out on the server itself.

> So why are you doing it differently in Mutt than in TBird? Jut hit 't'
> on each message you want deleted then use tag-prefix to delete them all
>  ';' applies the next command to all tagged messages so you hit ';'
>   then 'd'. Simple.

Where did I say *I* was not marking multiple messages and deleting them
at once.  I quite clearly said *IT* will copy the first message, delete,
then move to the second to copy, then delete, and so on.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - YouTube infiltration

[Mike Bird]

On Wed February 6 2008 14:27:52 Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
> Mike Bird wrote the following on 02/06/2008 04:05 PM:
> > Check that Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Network / Settings
> > specifies a direct connection to the internet.

> Can't do that. I don't have a direct connection, I have
> a proxy. It has worked flawlessly for oh ... 10 years,
> and still does.

In that case, check that the proxy setting is correct.

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Re: Etch desktop: switching between ppp and ethernet network connections

[Mikko Rapeli]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:01:27PM +0200, Mikko Rapeli wrote:
> gnome-ppp is a bit complicated and it doesn't work with the system wide
> ppp settings, which work and which the user can not accidentally screw
> up.

I've also tried GNOME's network-admin, but that seems to fail with ppp
interfaces. All I get is a "Could not enable interface ppp0". 
Somehow 'ifdown eth0 && ifup ppp0' and 'ifdown ppp0 && ifup eth0' work
on command line. Except 'ifup ppp0' doesn't provide feedback if
something goes from with the ppp setup like it often goes with these
GSM/GPRS thingies.

> ifplugd and automatic ppp setup work, allmost, but lack a gui in gnome.
> They work if eth0 is not set as auto while ppp is set as auto. Then ifplugd is
> configured to poll the eth0 device. At boot ppp is setup. If cable is
> later plugged, ifplugd activates eth0. When cable is unplugged only
> /etc/resolv.conf is hosed since the ppp0 stayed up all the time. I hope
> I can fix this with resolvconf, although I've had bad experiences with it

Indeed, resolvconf works as I thought with ppp and ethernet devices.

-Mikko


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Problems with apache2 and charsets

[Carles Pagès]

Hello,

My apache seems to ignore the charset meta data in the html files, so
iso-8859-1 htmls are not properly displayed. If I store them in utf-8,
then there is no problem, even if iso-8859-1 is specified in the meta
headers.

If I specify the default charset in the apache conf file to be
iso-8859-1 then the iso pages are shown correctly but not utf-8 ones.

So, does anyone know what could be causing this behaviour? I'm using
apache2 in debian stable, if that helps.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 2 of 3

[David Brodbeck]

On Feb 6, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:


Davide Mancusi wrote the following on 02/06/2008 03:28 PM:
   Have you tried to move your .mozilla directory out of the way  
and to
restart with a fresh profile? Maybe some extension or some setting  
are

causing problems...




K, that seems to solve that problem but creates three

more.


What files do I have to copy to the new .mozilla to get
my bookmarks, userid/passwords, and extension/plugins back?


Your bookmarks are in bookmarks.html.  Don't know about the rest, but  
every file you copy back probably increases the chances you'll just  
recreate the same problem.



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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[David Brodbeck]

On Feb 6, 2008, at 12:28 PM, Steve Lamb wrote:

   The main problem that I saw is that on delete operations it does
something that is insanely slower than TBird.  For example, on TBird I
can mark 25 messages as deleted, hit delete, and within about a second
they are in the trash folder.


I think that's because TBird updates your view of the mailbox  
immediately, then continues the actual deletion in the background.  I  
had it crash once right after I did a delete and when I opened the  
mailbox again, all those messages were magically resurrected. :)



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Re: Iceweasel problems - 2 of 3

[Davide Mancusi]

Dennis G. Wicks ha scritto:

When I restart Iceweasel it reopens all the windows and
tabs as designed with one not-so-small problem. It
opens *every* window or tab that was ever opened
before, nopt just the ones that were open when it
crashed or was shutdown. It doesn't seem to know or
care that those particular items were closed by either
clicking the "X"s or any of the other means, not just
minimized.

>>

Have you tried to move your .mozilla directory out of the way and to
restart with a fresh profile? Maybe some extension or some setting are
causing problems...


OK, that seems to solve that problem but creates three
more.

What files do I have to copy to the new .mozilla to get
my bookmarks, userid/passwords, and extension/plugins back?


	Bookmarks are in a file called, guess what, bookmarks.html. Very 
original. As for the rest, I am not sure about userid and passwords, and 
I suspect your broken behaviour is actually caused by some faulty 
extensions. It is probably easier to move back the .mozilla directory 
and start iceweasel from a terminal with


$ iceweasel -safe-mode

This will disable all extensions. If the problem does not occur, start 
iceweasel in normal mode, disable all the extensions by hand and 
re-enable them one at a time until you find the culprit.


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Re: Iceweasel problems - YouTube infiltration

[Dennis G. Wicks]

Mike Bird wrote the following on 02/06/2008 04:05 PM:
> On Wed February 6 2008 13:42:55 Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
>> Everytime I try to get an internet page, either refresh
>> or new link, I get the following message, and no page.
>>
>>  Not Found
>>
>>  The requested URL /~joyce/album/ was not found
>>  on this server.
>>  Apache Server at www.youtube.com Port 80
>>
>> It appears that it is really sending the request to
>> YouTube. I have no idea why!
> 
> Check that Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Network / Settings
> specifies a direct connection to the internet.
> 
> --Mike Bird
> 
> 

Can't do that. I don't have a direct connection, I have
a proxy. It has worked flawlessly for oh ... 10 years,
and still does.

Other systems, Windows 2k, on the network don't have
that problem, and neither do Opera or Konq on this machine.

Tnx,
Dennis


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OT: xmms and last.fm scrobbler

[Sergio Cuéllar Valdés]

Hello,

I noticed that xmms is not scrobbling the songs I play. I have not
updated xmms or the plugin. Has anybody of you the same weird problem.
The plugin is still queueing the played songs.

I am using the plugin that can be downloaded from the last.fm site.

I have sniffed the connections made by xmms, and it tries to send the
packet, but it received a  "BADAUTH" message. I checked and rechecked
the password and username, it is correct.

Has anybody of you the same problem ?

Best regards,
Sergio Cuellar

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Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:03:57 +0100
Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

> command : sh -c 'LANG=C; STARTED_FROM_MENU=yes /usr/bin/hp-toolbox'
> and now it's ok for "userfoo"
> (it's odd job but it's working ;-))

Very odd, yes.  Seems as though there are some LOCALE issues there.
Sadly, that's not something I know enough about to offer any help.

> Thanks again.

You're welcome.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 2 of 3

[Dennis G. Wicks]

Davide Mancusi wrote the following on 02/06/2008 03:28 PM:
> Dennis G. Wicks ha scritto:
>> When I restart Iceweasel it reopens all the windows and
>> tabs as designed with one not-so-small problem. It
>> opens *every* window or tab that was ever opened
>> before, nopt just the ones that were open when it
>> crashed or was shutdown. It doesn't seem to know or
>> care that those particular items were closed by either
>> clicking the "X"s or any of the other means, not just
>> minimized.
>>
>> Any ideas on this one?
> 
> Have you tried to move your .mozilla directory out of the way and to
> restart with a fresh profile? Maybe some extension or some setting are
> causing problems...
> 
> HTH,
> Davide
> 

Davide,

OK, that seems to solve that problem but creates three
more.

What files do I have to copy to the new .mozilla to get
my bookmarks, userid/passwords, and extension/plugins back?

Thanks!
Dennis


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Re: Iceweasel problems - YouTube infiltration

[Mike Bird]

On Wed February 6 2008 13:42:55 Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
> Everytime I try to get an internet page, either refresh
> or new link, I get the following message, and no page.
>
>   Not Found
>
>   The requested URL /~joyce/album/ was not found
>   on this server.
>   Apache Server at www.youtube.com Port 80
>
> It appears that it is really sending the request to
> YouTube. I have no idea why!

Check that Edit / Preferences / Advanced / Network / Settings
specifies a direct connection to the internet.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 1 of 3

[Mike Bird]

On Wed February 6 2008 12:53:26 Dennis G. Wicks wrote:
> Iceweasel will just shutdown on its own. All windows
> and tabs are gone, for no reason.

Do you have any plugins or java?  Here Iceweasel crashes
on some flash ads but is very stable with flash disabled.

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Re: Non-understood advice - was Re: dist-upgrade from sarge to etch - package

[Florian Kulzer]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 20:34:14 +, Felix Karpfen wrote:
> On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:54:08 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> > Check for non-Debian packages on your system by running:
> > 
> > aptitude search '~i!~Odebian'
> 
> As an aptitude-novice, I tried the above command on my
> fully-operational upgrade from Sarge to Etch.  It gave a long list of
> installed packages - almost all of which were part of the Debian
> install.

What does your sources.list look like? I could understand this behavior
if you had non-Debian archives included that provide packages with the
same names as official packages. (The backports archive would be an
example.) The above search term matches any packet that is installed and
that has a non-Debian version in one of the archives known by apt; this
non-Debian version does not have to be the one that is actually
installed. If you want to avoid this ambiguity then you have to add the
version narrowing operator:

aptitude search '~S~i!~Odebian'

It is also possible that you found a bug in the Etch version of
aptitude; I use version 0.4.10-1+b1 on Sid and these search terms work
as expected on my system.

> The generated list included one of the two non-Debian packages (opera)-
> deleted during the install and replaced subsequently. It failed to find
> the only other non-Debian package (vuescan).

How did you install vuescan? Maybe it does not properly identify itself
as non-Debian.

> I also ran the following:
> 
> | $ aptitude search '~i! ~Odebian' | grep opera*

Side note: The asterisk is not necessary here. You are probably mixing
up bash globbing and regular expressions.
 
> and got :
> 
> | i   eject   - ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers
> | i   opera   - The Opera Web Browser
> 
> What have I ?

I don't see any problem with the last part; both these lines contain the
string "opera", so they match the expression for which you are grepping.

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Joe]

On 12:28 Wed 06 Feb , Steve Lamb wrote:
> 
> The main problem that I saw is that on delete operations it does
> something that is insanely slower than TBird.  For example, on TBird I
> can mark 25 messages as deleted, hit delete, and within about a second
> they are in the trash folder.
> 
> In mutt (as of, say, 4 months ago when I last tried) it will copy then
> delete message 1... then copy and delete message 2... then copy and
> delete message 3...  Taking about 1/2 second each.  So on a 25 message
> operation mutt will take 12 seconds to do what TBird does in no more
> than 2.  Even worse is that is without network lag as the mutt operation
> was carried out on the server itself.
> 

So why are you doing it differently in Mutt than in TBird? Jut hit 't'
on each message you want deleted then use tag-prefix to delete them all
 ';' applies the next command to all tagged messages so you hit ';'
  then 'd'. Simple.

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 3 of 3

[Angus Auld]

--- "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well, this is the third of the most aggravating
> problems.
> 
> Iceweasel will just "go to sleep". I have clicked on
> a
> link or pasted a url in the address bar and it is
> doing
> nothing. It displays "STOPPED" in the status bar and
> will not load any pages, either i'net or local
> network.
> 
> The system monitor and "top" don't show that there
> is
> anything in particular going on and other apps have
> a
> good, quick response.
> 
> Time cures the problem. Generally after "a while"
> something breaks loose and it sort of catches up and
> things work.
> 
> I have the cache disabled. It doesn't seem to make
> any
> difference one way or the other.
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Dennis
This may not be too helpful, but I have noted similar
behaviour, and not only with Iceweasel, but sometimes
Opera will do a "frozen" thing once in a while too.
It seems to be flash related, I think. When they
decide to take a rest, as it were, seems invariably on
a page that is flash intensive. Flash doesn't seem to
want to play fair with Linux, for some reason. I also
notice that flash videos or animations seem to consume
a lot of cpu cycles, with Iceweasel or Opera.

This can be a real pain, because a lot of websites are
very flash intensive nowadays.

Starting your browser with "-- debug plugins" enabled
could be enlightening here. I'm unsure how to do that
with Iceweasel, but with Opera an "opera -- debug
plugins" should do it. If I can remember to start my
browser thusly, I will report back further if I note
anything on this rendom "freeze".

Regards.

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Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Gerard Robin]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 07:40:38PM +, Brad Rogers wrote:

From: Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found


On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:07:37 +0100

Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



"userfoo" can also start "hp-toobox" now

Sorry I forgot to say that if LANG is not set to C "hp-toolbox" failed (for 
"userfoo")
and in the menu "system -> preferences ->  HPLIP Toolbox" I put the
command : sh -c 'LANG=C; STARTED_FROM_MENU=yes /usr/bin/hp-toolbox' and
now it's ok for "userfoo"
(it's odd job but it's working ;-))

Thanks again.
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Iceweasel problems - YouTube infiltration

[Dennis G. Wicks]

Greetings;

Well, just ran into a another frequent problem.

I just re-booted and restarted Iceweasel. (22 windows,
I don't know how many tabs.) I had a bad feeling as
soon as I saw that all the favicons were YouTube.

Everytime I try to get an internet page, either refresh
or new link, I get the following message, and no page.

Not Found

The requested URL /~joyce/album/ was not found
on this server.
Apache Server at www.youtube.com Port 80

It appears that it is really sending the request to
YouTube. I have no idea why!

Thanks for any help!

Dennis


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I would like to trade links with you to my Mustang Sites

[Tony]

Hi people.debian.org Administrator, my name is Tony Norella and I own 2 very 
successful Ford Mustang sites:

MustangTraderOnline.com and YourMustangTrader.com.

I was searching on Google today for possible link partners and found your site 
to be interesting and something that would be of interest to our visitors.

If you would like to exchange links, please let me know.  If not, this is a one 
time email and I apologize for intruding and won't bother you again.

My link info is:

URL - MustangTraderOnline.com
Link Text - Mustangs for Sale
Description - Buy and Sell Used and Classic Ford Mustangs

URL - YourMustangTrader.com
Link Text - Mustang Auctions
Description - Buy and Sell Used and Classic Ford Mustangs at Auction

Simple and to the point.  :)


Thanks,

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Re: Iceweasel problems - 2 of 3

[Davide Mancusi]

Dennis G. Wicks ha scritto:

When I restart Iceweasel it reopens all the windows and
tabs as designed with one not-so-small problem. It
opens *every* window or tab that was ever opened
before, nopt just the ones that were open when it
crashed or was shutdown. It doesn't seem to know or
care that those particular items were closed by either
clicking the "X"s or any of the other means, not just
minimized.

Any ideas on this one?


	Have you tried to move your .mozilla directory out of the way and to 
restart with a fresh profile? Maybe some extension or some setting are 
causing problems...


HTH,
Davide

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Patter]

On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:30:21 +0100, Steve Lamb wrote:
> John Hasler wrote:
>> s. keeling writes:
>>> Mutt handles any standard form of mail box format, including
>>> on_some_other_server(don't much care how), aka. imap.
>
>> Internet Message Access Protocol is a protocol, not a file format.
>
> Not to mention mutt's IMAP implementation is less than stellar.  I
> certainly wouldn't go around crowing about it.

huh? it works decently enough & as well as some of the alternatives.

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Etch desktop: switching between ppp and ethernet network connections

[Mikko Rapeli]

Ok, I think I've tried everything but I can't get automation and
userfriendlyness into etch based networking, so I'm asking for help.

How to setup ppp/gprs modem connection and ethernet/dhcp in etch so that:

- ethernet connection is used when cable is plugged in and dhcp client
  finds a lease, 
- ppp/gprs modem connection is used as backup when ethernet is not
  available, and most important bit,
- gnome desktop user has some idea which connection is in use (and possibly
  can manually switch from ethernet to ppp/gprs, and back)

I can't get network-manager working like described. I have ppp
connection setup and working with pon/poff and configured in
/etc/network/interfaces. Ethernet connection is not setup, so
network-manager should manage it by default. Two problems remain.

One: at boot network-manager does not discover that ethernet cable is not
connected, and thus zero conf kicks in and ethernet seems active. A
round of networking disable and enable does help and now cable is not
found and interfaces remains down. User is confused. 
This happens on a HP Omnibook XE3 with a ADMtek Comet rev 17 ethetnet chip.

Second: ppp and network-manager don't work well. It's ok to enable and
disable the ppp interface from the GUI, but it sucks that it doesn't
show anything like 'Connected' status when PPP connection is active.
User is very confused.

gnome-ppp is a bit complicated and it doesn't work with the system wide
ppp settings, which work and which the user can not accidentally screw
up.

ifplugd and automatic ppp setup work, allmost, but lack a gui in gnome.
They work if eth0 is not set as auto while ppp is set as auto. Then ifplugd is
configured to poll the eth0 device. At boot ppp is setup. If cable is
later plugged, ifplugd activates eth0. When cable is unplugged only
/etc/resolv.conf is hosed since the ppp0 stayed up all the time. I hope
I can fix this with resolvconf, although I've had bad experiences with it
in unstable some years ago. But the problem of a missing GUI remains. Is
there some that I've missed?

Long story, but I hope someone knows better...

-Mikko


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Re: Sata controller order

[Stuart Gall]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Jonathan Doe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You can label swap partitions like this: 
> 
> mkswap -L  

OH I SEE!

Well that does it, many thanks.

Stuart


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Iceweasel problems - 3 of 3

[Dennis G. Wicks]

Well, this is the third of the most aggravating problems.

Iceweasel will just "go to sleep". I have clicked on a
link or pasted a url in the address bar and it is doing
nothing. It displays "STOPPED" in the status bar and
will not load any pages, either i'net or local network.

The system monitor and "top" don't show that there is
anything in particular going on and other apps have a
good, quick response.

Time cures the problem. Generally after "a while"
something breaks loose and it sort of catches up and
things work.

I have the cache disabled. It doesn't seem to make any
difference one way or the other.

Thanks for any help.

Dennis


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Iceweasel problems - 2 of 3

[Dennis G. Wicks]

When I restart Iceweasel it reopens all the windows and
tabs as designed with one not-so-small problem. It
opens *every* window or tab that was ever opened
before, nopt just the ones that were open when it
crashed or was shutdown. It doesn't seem to know or
care that those particular items were closed by either
clicking the "X"s or any of the other means, not just
minimized.

Any ideas on this one?


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Re: Sata controller order

[Stuart Gall]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On 01/29/08 12:09, Stuart Gall wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I have a problem with 4.0r2 (although it is probably not exclusive to 
> > that release)
> > 
> > On a number of systems with multiple sata controllers the controllers 
> > come up in different orders (randomly on boot) the order is always the 
> > same in lilo but gets changed sometimes by the time the kernel loads.
> > This has the effect of juggling the drives so mount does not work.
> > 
> > I have seen this problem in a number of places on the net, the usual 
> > solution posted is to mount by label rather than by drive.
> > 
> > This is possible for EXT2/EXT3 but it is not possile AFAIKS for swap. 
> 
> Swap partitions *can* have labels.  You can also mount by UUID.


Yes swap partitions can have labels, yes you can mount ext2/ext3 
filesystems bu UUID. But it does not work for swap.

At least that is my interpretation of man fstab. And no matter what I 
try in fstab I cant mount swap by label or UUID.

Can you give me an example of what my fstab entry should look like

LABEL=swap  swap swap defaults 0 0
Does not work.




> 
> > Also the reason these systems have multiple sata controllers is that 
> > they have a raid partition. So also I am not sure how the md device 
> > would handle having its disks moved around.
> > 
> > Is there some way to force a particular controller, and hence disk, 
> > ordering on the kernel ?
> > 
> > For the moment, if these systems have to be shutdown. On reboot if the 
> > order is wrong we get dumped to ramfs then we just ctrl-alt-delete 
> > repeatedly until the order comes right and the system boots.
> > 
> > I can not understand why the order would be random.
> > 
> > I am using irqpoll kernel flag to boot these systems, otherwise we get 
> > sda lost interrupt, not sure if that is relevant.
> > 
> > TVMIA
> 
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Iceweasel problems - 1 of 3

[Dennis G. Wicks]

OK, here is the first one.

Iceweasel will just shutdown on its own. All windows
and tabs are gone, for no reason.

Sometimes when I come back from eating or getting a cup
of coffee it will have happened. The latest was while I
was in another session. (Ctl-Alt-Fx) I was using VNC to
do some work on a Windows machine on my network and
when I came back Iceweasel was gone!

When I start it back up it recovers all the windows and
tabs, so I don't lose anything but time. (But, see the
next problem.)

I have the cache disabled, if that makes a difference.
It seems to work better that way!

Thanks for any help!


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Re: Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

[Ron Johnson]

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Please no top-posting!!!

On 02/06/08 13:59, dick thompson wrote:
> I am too.  What happens is that Iceweasel starts off fine and then
> randomly drops out completely.  You can bring it right back up but it
> just seems to randomly hiccup.  I am not doing anything special at the
> time at all, just surfing.  I get no message that it is timing out or
> anything else.  It is maddening.  It does not happen with Firefox on any
> of my other O/S (Ubuntu, Sabayon, BlueWhite64, Wolvix, Slackware), only
> with Iceweasel and Debian.  I am running the Sidux version right now and
> am up to date on the updates.

Really?  I run Sid and Iceweasel with 6-7 windows open and 3-6 dozen
tabs open, and it only crashes when the process climbs above 3GB
memory usage.  And that doesn't happen often!

> Tony van der Hoff wrote:
>> On 6 Feb at 16:55 "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>   
>>> Greetings;
>>>
>>> I have several serious problems with Iceweasel.
>>>
>>> 
>> What are your problems?
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>
>>   


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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

[Michael S. Peek]

Jochen Schulz wrote:

I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P.


Thanks, I'll check into that.  I don't really care about the sound, as 
it'll be a headless machine running in a server room.  CPU power and 
gigabit ethernet is what I really care about.


Michael


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Non-understood advice - was Re: dist-upgrade from sarge to etch - package

[Felix Karpfen]

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:54:08 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:54:08 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Check for non-Debian packages on your system by running:
> 
> aptitude search '~i!~Odebian'
>

As an aptitude-novice, I tried the above command on my
fully-operational upgrade from Sarge to Etch.  It gave a long list of
installed packages - almost all of which were part of the Debian
install.

The generated list included one of the two non-Debian packages (opera)-
deleted during the install and replaced subsequently. It failed to find
the only other non-Debian package (vuescan).

I also ran the following:

| $ aptitude search '~i! ~Odebian' | grep opera*

and got :

| i   eject   - ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers
| i   opera   - The Opera Web Browser

What have I ?

Felix Karpfen



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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

[Michael S. Peek]

Neil Watson wrote:

Tyan



Any Tyan motherboard?
Are there any gotcha's that I would need to know about getting debian 
installed (special driver needs, kernel command line options, that sort 
of thing)?


I've found both duel- and quad-CPU boards by Tyan that look very nice...

Michael


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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Steve Lamb]

Jochen Schulz wrote:
> I have read statements to that effect several times now but I don't
> really know where the problem lies. I know that mutt is mainly
> unmaintained now and that there are unfixed bugs (like the wrong
> reporting of unread mails per IMAP-mailbox). But are there general
> problems with the code like maintainability, incompatibilities or errors
> in the implementation of the IMAP protocol?

The main problem that I saw is that on delete operations it does
something that is insanely slower than TBird.  For example, on TBird I
can mark 25 messages as deleted, hit delete, and within about a second
they are in the trash folder.

In mutt (as of, say, 4 months ago when I last tried) it will copy then
delete message 1... then copy and delete message 2... then copy and
delete message 3...  Taking about 1/2 second each.  So on a 25 message
operation mutt will take 12 seconds to do what TBird does in no more
than 2.  Even worse is that is without network lag as the mutt operation
was carried out on the server itself.

Now extend that to maintaining a high volume list like Debian where one
has 300 or so messages a day.  300 messages is 2.5 minutes of sitting
idle.  TBird would complete that oepration in, at most, 4-5 seconds.  I
dread to think what it would be like when I go on my monthly Exim user
list purges of 2-3 thousand messages at once.

I don't know what TBird is doing differently than mutt but it is
painfully slow and utterly unusable.

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[Steve Lamb]

marc wrote:
> Steve Lamb said...
>> s. keeling wrote:
>> > Just curious, but what's wrong with breaking it up by chapters and
>> > figuring out how to merge it all together later?  "lpr chap*" too much
>> > to remember?
>>
>> Now email that ream of paper.

> Scanner?

Yeahh, that's efficient.

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Jochen Schulz]

Steve Lamb:
> 
> Not to mention mutt's IMAP implementation is less than stellar.
> [...]

I have read statements to that effect several times now but I don't
really know where the problem lies. I know that mutt is mainly
unmaintained now and that there are unfixed bugs (like the wrong
reporting of unread mails per IMAP-mailbox). But are there general
problems with the code like maintainability, incompatibilities or errors
in the implementation of the IMAP protocol?

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Re: Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

[dick thompson]

I am too.  What happens is that Iceweasel starts off fine and then 
randomly drops out completely.  You can bring it right back up but it 
just seems to randomly hiccup.  I am not doing anything special at the 
time at all, just surfing.  I get no message that it is timing out or 
anything else.  It is maddening.  It does not happen with Firefox on any 
of my other O/S (Ubuntu, Sabayon, BlueWhite64, Wolvix, Slackware), only 
with Iceweasel and Debian.  I am running the Sidux version right now and 
am up to date on the updates.


Tony van der Hoff wrote:

On 6 Feb at 16:55 "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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Greetings;

I have several serious problems with Iceweasel.



What are your problems?

[snip]


  

Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:07:37 +0100
Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

> in the terminal I get:
> (xsane:6479): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to
> pango_layout_set_text() (xsane:6479): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8
> string passed to pango_layout_set_text()

I'm not at all sure what caused that
 
> if I set LANG to C this not arises

But as that stops it happening

> "userfoo" can also start "hp-toobox" now
> Thanks

You're welcome.  Glad you've got it all going.

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Re: low-MHz server

[NN_il_Confusionario]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 11:59:25AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > I was referring to a (peculiar kind of) powerpc architecture,
> 
> Below 200 MHz and run current Debian or OpenBSD.  

current 2.6.x linux kernels should have upstream (and debian) support
for that peculiar prep hardware. But I have not tried to upgrade that
machine.

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Re: security keys

[tom arnall]

i ended up doing the routine described at:

http://debian-multimedia.org/

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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

[Jochen Schulz]

Michael S. Peek:
> 
> Can anyone suggest a motherboard w/ support for quad-core CPUs and  
> gigabit ethernet?  Video and sound don't matter (they'll be headless).   
> Multiple CPUs and multiple ethernet welcome.

I am running Debian AMD64 on a Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3P. It supports the
latest 45nm Core2Duo CPUs (dual and quad) and has gigabit ethernet from
Realtek. I needed the installer from  for
SATA support (and for ethernet, I think), but otherwise it works
flawlessly. I didn't try installing from or to an IDE drive which might
be a problem, but I don't know.

The only quirk was that you have to use the module option
model=6stack-digout for snd-hda-intel in order to hear sound. There's no
graphic chip on the board so you'd have to get a separate one.

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Re: How to set up a WLAN?

[Håkon Alstadheim]

Dan H. wrote:


# iwlist scan

wlan1 No scan results

# iwlist freq

wlan1 0 channels
  Current Frequency=3D2.412 GHz

0 channels? I don't get it. Shouldn't I see at least the channels this thing
/could/ do, even if I sat in an EMI-proof building?

  
That seems very wrong yes. Seems to be a problem with the usb variety of 
the driver. There is (/used to be) some mailing-lists and web-sites 
dedicated to the development ov the rt2** drivers. Probably that is 
where you need to go to pursue this issue further. Google is your 
friend, or you could check for any info in the source files (files named 
like README and INSTALL are  good places to look).


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> Nuno,
> 
> nm> Try the rest of the world, ... 
> 
> oregonstate.edu is the closest server which 
> has the files.  Going to another server will 
> only increase the cost of communication.
> 
> Regards,  ... Peter E.
> 
>  http://carnot.yi.org/

ftp://mirrors.kernel.org almost certainly has them. And it's a nice,
fat pipe.

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Re: vim + LaTeX (Was: What am I missing without mutt?)

[marc]

Steve Lamb said...
> After you suggested using AbiWord I gave it a whirl.  At first glance it
> seemed to work nicely but after 2-3 times I noticed that it was really
> chugging on dealing with my document which was a mere 25 pages of prose
> so far.  Unless I planned on breaking it up by chapters and figuring out
> how to merge it all together later I didn't see AbiWord being able to
> deal with the 300-600 pages I am shooting for.

Ok, by a circuitous route, we've got to why I asked my earlier question.

The reason I asked is that I write books yet haven't found anything to 
match WinEdt, which is a Windows editor, for handling chapters and LaTeX 
on Linux. In all other cases, I use vim.

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Re: hitachi hd

[Jochen Schulz]

Giancarlo Bruno:
>
> I am trying to install debian Etch on a new PC (with no other OS 
> installed)
> 
> I get a message saying that "no disk drive was detected"
> 
> The BIOS screen says HD is a SATA drive HITACHI HDP 725040GLA with 
> 400GB. Any hint to help me with this issue?

Probably your SATA controller isn't supported by the kernel in the
official etch installer.

Recently, I was in the same situation and used an installer with a newer
kernel from . That one worked just fine.
Another option might be to switch the controller to AHCI mode in the
BIOS, if it has such an option. I think has been supported earlier than
some specific chipsets.

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Re: vim + LaTeX (Was: What am I missing without mutt?)

[marc]

Steve Lamb said...
> s. keeling wrote:
> > Just curious, but what's wrong with breaking it up by chapters and
> > figuring out how to merge it all together later?  "lpr chap*" too much
> > to remember?
> 
> Now email that ream of paper.

Scanner?

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Re: Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 6 Feb at 16:55 "Dennis G. Wicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Greetings;
>
> I have several serious problems with Iceweasel.
>
What are your problems?

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Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Gerard Robin]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 03:35:19PM +, Brad Rogers wrote:

From: Brad Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found



On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:24:27 +0100
Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Hello Gerard,



Why can't I make hp-toolbox work as normal user ?
Why can't I make xsane work as normal user ? 



Make sure the normal user is a member of both 'lpadmin' and 'scanner'
groups.  They should then be able to run the relevant commands.


I added, says "userfoo", in lpadmin and scanner and now xsane starts an 
runs fine, but "file -> quit" gives twice: "failed to create file: Permission denied".


in the terminal I get:
(xsane:6479): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to 
pango_layout_set_text()
(xsane:6479): Pango-WARNING **: Invalid UTF-8 string passed to 
pango_layout_set_text()

if I set LANG to C this not arises

"userfoo" can also start "hp-toobox" now

Thanks

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[BartlebyScrivener]

On Feb 6, 10:00 am, "Dan H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> BTW, what's wrong with my setup?

If you have any other problems, the vim_use google group is
hyperactive and very helpful.

http://groups.google.com/group/vim_use

Good luck,

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Re: Motherboard suggestions?

[Neil Watson]

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Steve Lamb]

Dan H. wrote:
> Claws doesn't do HTML, period (which may be part of the reason for its
> snappiness, because i doesn't have to load a bloated HTML rendering engine).

Huh?

sylpheed-claws-dillo-viewer

Wasn't that long ago it was not a plugin, it was base.

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Motherboard suggestions?

[Michael S. Peek]

Hello gurus,

Can anyone suggest a motherboard w/ support for quad-core CPUs and 
gigabit ethernet?  Video and sound don't matter (they'll be headless).  
Multiple CPUs and multiple ethernet welcome.


Thanks for your help,

Michael


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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Steve Lamb]

John Hasler wrote:
> s. keeling writes:
>> Mutt handles any standard form of mail box format, including
>> on_some_other_server(don't much care how), aka. imap.

> Internet Message Access Protocol is a protocol, not a file format.

Not to mention mutt's IMAP implementation is less than stellar.  I
certainly wouldn't go around crowing about it.

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Re: vim + LaTeX (Was: What am I missing without mutt?)

[Steve Lamb]

s. keeling wrote:
> Just curious, but what's wrong with breaking it up by chapters and
> figuring out how to merge it all together later?  "lpr chap*" too much
> to remember?

Now email that ream of paper.

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[PETER EASTHOPE]

Nuno,

nm> Try the rest of the world, ... 

oregonstate.edu is the closest server which 
has the files.  Going to another server will 
only increase the cost of communication.

Regards,  ... Peter E.

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Re: vim + LaTeX

[Anthony Campbell]

On 06 Feb 2008, Miles Bader wrote:
> Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Why has no one in this thread mentioned Lyx? I've just used it to
> > produce two books for Lulu and have found it good for that purpose.
> 
> Last time I tried Lyx it crashed every 5 minutes even with fairly simple
> documents...
> 
> "Texmacs" is kind of interesting though.
> 
> [Though, to be honest, I really end up using latex most of the time
> anyway; I only use ooword for documents other people send me...]
> 
> -Miles
> 

It hasn't crashed on me once in the writing of two books. I've always
used plain latex in the past and still do for many purposes, but Lyx
made matters easier for the books. I'll have a  look at texmacs.

Anthony

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Re: Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

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> Greetings;
> 
> I have several serious problems with Iceweasel.
> 
> Where do I report them? It seems every thing I have
> found is for Firefox problems.

$ reportbug iceweasel

But maybe you should first post your questions to d-u.

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Wayne Topa]

Dan H.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:37:27AM -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> > In .muttrc:
> > 
> > set editor="gvim -f"
> 
> That would be without the "g", right?
> 
> BTW, what's wrong with my setup? When I type :help, I get 
> 
> E433: No tags file
> E149: Sorry, no help for help.txt
> 
> But:
> 
> $ locate help.txt | grep vim
> /usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt
> 
> Should the file help.txt be someplace else?
> 
> Thanks for the tutorial link, I'll give it a  try.

Add 
set helpfile=$VIMRUNTIME/doc/help.txt
to your .vimrc file and :help will work.

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hitachi hd

[Giancarlo Bruno]

I am trying to install debian Etch on a new PC (with no other OS 
installed)

I get a message saying that "no disk drive was detected"

The BIOS screen says HD is a SATA drive HITACHI HDP 725040GLA with 
400GB. Any hint to help me with this issue?

thanks a lot

Giancarlo


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Re: low-MHz server

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 05:00:43PM +0100, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> > > The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> > > linux 1.4.19); I do not think it would run smoothly with etch.
> > 
> > I suspect, Woody will run with a 1.4.19  :-)
> > 
> > Since it was shiped with 2.2.20 and 2.4.8 (AFAIK)
> 
> a typo, it is a 2.4.19 
> 
> This is a precompiled kernel for that hardware that I found on the net
> (and, nicely, starting from 2.4.19 there is no kernel problem for large
> ide HDs. Moreover the powerpc architecture has no "bios" problems for
> that; its openfirmware is not so dumb).
> 
> The boot floppy for the installation was 2.2.something
> 
> Woody stock (binary or source) kernels do not support that hardware.
> 
> > > I think IBM also had multiprocessor models.
> > 
> > You can use the IBM Netfini (Dual P2/233 with 512 MB of memory)
> > as nice mini workstations which are cheap on eBay.
> 
> I was referring to a (peculiar kind of) powerpc architecture, which the
> reqester possibly dislikes since possibly OpenBSD does not run on it
> (when I installed that machine in woody's times, not even NetBSD was
> able to run on that hardware). 
> 
> Possibly the requester will not like also your suggestion since the
> request was to stay below 200 MHz.
> 

Below 200 MHz and run current Debian or OpenBSD.  

Doug.


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Iceweasel problems - where to report them?

[Dennis G. Wicks]

Greetings;

I have several serious problems with Iceweasel.

Where do I report them? It seems every thing I have
found is for Firefox problems.

Tnx!
Dennis


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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[BartlebyScrivener]

On Feb 6, 10:00 am, "Dan H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > set editor="gvim -f"
>
> That would be without the "g", right?
>

The "g" starts the gui version of vim, which I like.

> BTW, what's wrong with my setup? When I type :help, I get
>
> E433: No tags file
> E149: Sorry, no help for help.txt
>

That's weird. What did you install? Vim-full?

What do you get when you do :echo $VIMRUNTIME

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Re: How to set up a WLAN?

[Wayne Topa]

Dan H.([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
> On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 03:57:45PM +0100, Hakon Alstadheim wrote:
> 

Never could get my USB stick G122 working.

Seems like others had the same problem.  Found this in my collection
of HowTo's for Dlink. 

Google for DWL-G122_Ubuntu.html

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Re: low-MHz server

[NN_il_Confusionario]

On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 03:16:52PM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> > The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> > linux 1.4.19); I do not think it would run smoothly with etch.
> 
> I suspect, Woody will run with a 1.4.19  :-)
> 
> Since it was shiped with 2.2.20 and 2.4.8 (AFAIK)

a typo, it is a 2.4.19 

This is a precompiled kernel for that hardware that I found on the net
(and, nicely, starting from 2.4.19 there is no kernel problem for large
ide HDs. Moreover the powerpc architecture has no "bios" problems for
that; its openfirmware is not so dumb).

The boot floppy for the installation was 2.2.something

Woody stock (binary or source) kernels do not support that hardware.

> > I think IBM also had multiprocessor models.
> 
> You can use the IBM Netfini (Dual P2/233 with 512 MB of memory)
> as nice mini workstations which are cheap on eBay.

I was referring to a (peculiar kind of) powerpc architecture, which the
reqester possibly dislikes since possibly OpenBSD does not run on it
(when I installed that machine in woody's times, not even NetBSD was
able to run on that hardware). 

Possibly the requester will not like also your suggestion since the
request was to stay below 200 MHz.

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Re: low-MHz server

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 07:44:30AM -0800, Brian wrote:
> I hadnt considered the multi proc possibility, there are indeed some 
> dual proc p2 boxen available.
> 
> I see a dual p2 300 (probably too fast) for 60 bux with 3 9 gig scsi 
> disks and 512 mb ram as well.

Yea, 300 is too fast.  200 is the hard upper limit, would like slower.

I know from experience with OpenBSD 4.1 on my 486DX4-100 that it is
entirely suitable performance-wise.  It only has ISA bus, two IDE
controllers, and only 32 MB ram.  I need better I/0.

Doug.


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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

[Dan H.]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:37:27AM -0800, BartlebyScrivener wrote:
> In .muttrc:
> 
> set editor="gvim -f"

That would be without the "g", right?

BTW, what's wrong with my setup? When I type :help, I get 

E433: No tags file
E149: Sorry, no help for help.txt

But:

$ locate help.txt | grep vim
/usr/share/vim/doc/help.txt

Should the file help.txt be someplace else?

Thanks for the tutorial link, I'll give it a  try.

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Re: low-MHz server

[Brian]

I hadnt considered the multi proc possibility, there are indeed some 
dual proc p2 boxen available.


I see a dual p2 300 (probably too fast) for 60 bux with 3 9 gig scsi 
disks and 512 mb ram as well.


Brian


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Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 16:24:27 +0100
Gerard Robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Gerard,

> Why can't I make hp-toolbox work as normal user ?
> Why can't I make xsane work as normal user ? 

Make sure the normal user is a member of both 'lpadmin' and 'scanner'
groups.  They should then be able to run the relevant commands.

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Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

[Gerard Robin]

On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 07:37:46PM -0500, Andrew Malcolmson wrote:

From: Andrew Malcolmson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Printer HP c7280: No Installed HP Devices Found

On Tue, 5 Feb 2008 16:13:26 +0100, "Gerard Robin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:

Hello,
When I configured my printer HP c7280 (Photosmart all-in-one) the
command: sudo hp-toolbox got me:

No Installed HP Devices Found
To install a device, use one of the following methods:
-8<

ERROR: No device found or unsupported device



The device is not registered with hplip.

Try deleting the printer in CUPS and re-adding it with 'hp-setup'


-1-
as root (with su, not sudo)
hp-setup:
Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason :
None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based 
authentication failed
error: Unable to find HP fax PPD file. Please check you(r) HPLIP installation 
and try again.
8<--
your printer has been successfully installed on your system

-2-
I discovered that when I do hp-toolbox as root, with su and passwd root,
(not sudo) I get briefly: ERROR: no device found or unsupported device
and after that hp-toolbox works.

-3-
I choose "scan" in the menu:
You try to run Xsane as root, that is very dangerous ...
xsane works fine and gives a file out.pnm or out.txt but the file
out.txt is unreadable. It is "gocr" which doesn't work correctly. 


-4-
I choose "print" in the menu: works fine. (doesn't print the letters with 
accents)

-5- (gnome)
"system -> preference -> HPLIP Toolbox" doesn't work because hp-toolbox is 
launched with the command: (as normal user)
sh -c 'STARTED_FROM_MENU=yes /usr/bin/hp-toolbox' 
I rewrited it as:
sh -c 'STARTED_FROM_MENU=yes gksu /usr/bin/hp-toolbox' 
and now "system -> preference -> HPLIP Toolbox" works.


Why can't I make hp-toolbox work as normal user ?
Why can't I make xsane work as normal user ? 


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No subpixel rendering fonts in GTK+ apps

[Lukasz Mazurkiewicz]

Hi all!
I've patched (using patches from Ubuntu Hardy sources) and recompiled 
freetype2, libcairo2, libxft2 and fontconfig to get the subpixel 
rendering (ClearType-like) fonts.
Everything went ok, but the problem is that the subpixel rendering shows 
only on KDE/QT apps but not in GTK apps (ex. Iceweasel).
I'm using Debian Lenny/Sid with KDE 3.5.8 and i've got gtk-qt-engine 
package installed.

I did: /dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config/ and set Autohinter->Always->No
Next:/ dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig/ to reset the font cache.
Also: kcontrol > Appearences & Themes > GTK Styles and Fonts > GTK 
Fonts, 'Use my KDE fonts in GTK applications' is set.

Does anybody know what is wrong?
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Re: vim + LaTeX (Was: What am I missing without mutt?)

[BartlebyScrivener]

On Feb 6, 4:10 am, Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But I don't use it to produce the actual text; for that I use (g)vim.

It's an author's dream for the same reason that it's a programmer's
dream.

> the text is more or less as I want it I then import it into Lyx for
> working up into the right format.
>

I haven't tried Lyx. I was always afraid of LaTeX, but I did my last
book (nonfiction, with lots of footnotes, cross-references, tables,
etc.) completely in LaTex. It was not so hard to learn, because there
are so many tutorials (same with mutt), and gives beautiful results. I
found Vim-Latex to be too "heavy", instead I just did a couple of key
remaps for \section{} etc.

For a novel, LaTeX it would be dead simple. I also ended up buying The
LaTeX Companion once I decided to adopt it permanently.

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Re: What am I missing without mutt?

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On Feb 6, 2:40 am, "Dan H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My next hobby is going to be vim,

In .muttrc:

set editor="gvim -f"

And see, "Efficient editing with vim":

http://jmcpherson.org/editing.html

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Re: vim + LaTeX

[Miles Bader]

Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Why has no one in this thread mentioned Lyx? I've just used it to
> produce two books for Lulu and have found it good for that purpose.

Last time I tried Lyx it crashed every 5 minutes even with fairly simple
documents...

"Texmacs" is kind of interesting though.

[Though, to be honest, I really end up using latex most of the time
anyway; I only use ooword for documents other people send me...]

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Re: OT:weird problem downloading big files

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-01 00:51:28, schrieb Sergio Belkin:
> Hi, 
> 
> I've stuck with a weird problem... 
> 
> I can't download "big" files, I mean, I can't download well DVD iso files, 
> for 

So you are using Sarge or an older version of Linux?

This version does NOT HAVE LFS (Large File Support).

The version of "wget" in Etch does not have this problem...
Also you can use "curl" or "mc".

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Re: Will using kernel 2.6.24 make my laptop faster?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-31 23:35:31, schrieb Gaudenz Steinlin:
> Do you have any numbers that kernel with unneeded hardware options not
> compiled in actually run faster? I would be very suprised by this as the
> additional code just never runs. AFAIK all applicable processor
> optimizations for powerpc are already activated in the stock Debian
> kernels.

At least it boots faster, since it has not the need of dependencie
checking for 1 million modules for which you will never have hardware.

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Re: Setting up Debian on a mobile disk

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-01 09:26:59, schrieb Dan H.:
> Yes, I figured that. But it ain't easy. There's simply no way I can think of
> to make grub install itself on that disk. I have no idea which (hdx,y) to
> use. /dev/sda is flatly refused as it is not a "BIOS" disk. Why can't grub
> simply install itself on /dev/sda if I tell it to? Can't grub list all disk
> partitions in its funny notation so that I can see which one to use? All the
> time of course I'm in imminent danger of hosing the bootloader on my
> built-in disk.

You should not use ANY drives like /dev/sdXn or such...

You need to use LABEL or ID to load the right partition.

> Anyway, I'm really stumped on the bootloader issue now. Do I have to go back
> to LILO? Don't really want to because all those bootloading issues seem
> extremely fishy to me (because I don't understand them), and I don't want to
> have to mess with different bootloaders.

I am using LILO since GRUB drived me to much crazy...

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Re: low-MHz server

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-31 08:51:08, schrieb NN_il_Confusionario:
> The IBM I have (90MHz cpu, "carolina" motherboard) still runs woody (and
> linux 1.4.19); I do not think it would run smoothly with etch.

I suspect, Woody will run with a 1.4.19  :-)

Since it was shiped with 2.2.20 and 2.4.8 (AFAIK)

> I think IBM also had multiprocessor models.

You can use the IBM Netfini (Dual P2/233 with 512 MB of memory)
as nice mini workstations which are cheap on eBay.
 
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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-30 22:40:27, schrieb mouss:
> so we can no more discuss Puppy Linux or the Puppy package manager on 
> debian lists?
> 
> keyword filtering on general public lists is risky. I wonder if training 
> bayes with a large corpus would help (the problem is what spam to use in 
> the corpus).

This WHY I would use the UPPERCASE ONLY filter.

Or if number of UPPERCASE_LETTERS > 60%
of all characters in a subject line...

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Re: low-MHz server

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-31 14:31:34, schrieb Julian De Marchi:
> 
> 
> >Any suggestions for good old boxes like this that will run modern Debian
> >or OpenBSD and be reasonably reliable?
> 
> An Old HP Proliant 800 or something would suit. They are readily available 
> on ebay. I ran one with multiple 200mhz cpus for a year or so, and it never 
> had a hiccup.
> 
> Best thing is because of the age, you would be able to pick up several for 
> a cheap price! :)

You can get even some IBM Netfini (Dual P2/233 with 512MB)
for cheap on eBay.

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Re: low-MHz server

[Michelle Konzack]

It seems you have the need for EMP-Secured equipment...
I have 19" racks which support NEMA68 and EMP...

But I believe, a "normal" working human can not buy it!

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Re: PUPPIES FOR SALE

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-02-01 06:32:34, schrieb Ron Johnson:
> On 01/30/08 17:17, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> > I would filter for UPPER case only subjects since to 99.99% they are spam.
> 
> OR AOL USERS.

N.C.  :-)


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Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-25 12:11:35, schrieb Martin Marcher:
> Any specific reason you need a newer kernel? (Again) I wouldn't do that on a
> server machine. Also xen patches are always a couple of versions behind -
> at least in my experience - so they only apply cleanly to the version
> stated on xensource

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Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-24 21:02:02, schrieb Ted Hilts:
> Also, I was talking about kernel versions higher than yours (up in the 
> twenties where yours was 18) and 32 bit. But whether the CPU is 32 bit 

Sorry, but I am using the latest "linux-image-2.6.23-1-xen-686" from
Unstable/Sid which I have tried to rebuild under my AMD Sempron but
without success (I use the make-kpkg targer "all" and it build all
without any Xen kernels)

> information the Xen Debian problem occurred on the 2.6 kernel at some 
> point and there were many requests on the debian-user list asking why 
> they could not get the AMD Xen stuff to work. So it will be interesting 
> to see if things have now changed.  I don't doubt your set up works and 
> works well but I am willing to bet that the etch stable kernel version 
> will not work for you.  Maybe, with Debian 4.0 the problem has been 
> resolved -- hope so!

Unfortunatly not, k7 does crash (kernel Oops) all the time while loading

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Re: Getting started with Xen -- Xen enabled kernel for Lenny?

[Michelle Konzack]

Am 2008-01-24 23:34:44, schrieb Martin Marcher:
> aptitude install xen-linx-image-2.6-xen-amd64
> 
> no i'm not joking, those with the hypervisor and ioemu and i was set, I had
> the 2 or 3 minor updates since etch release and all of those kernels worked
> fine.

I am using the "xen-linx-image-2.6-xen-686" and it just
works on a AMD Sempron 2800+ but I was not able to
recompile this pig for a k7 which crash all the time.

> AGAIN: I didn't install any specific version i think i even
> used "linux-image-xen-amd64" - it just works with etch

:-)

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Re: Unable to install debian via netinst.iso CD,

[narendra sisodiya]

On Feb 6, 2008 7:26 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:55PM +0530, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I am trying to install Debian from this CD
> >
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r2-i386-netinst.iso
> > all are going ok, but when we got option for selecting mirror we are
> unable
> > to install
> >
> > We have to install from a local server where all there DVD iso images
> are
> > extracted like there following folder
> > http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo1
> > http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo2
> > http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo3
>
> You're supposed to have just one repository with everything in it.
>
> Can you use those as apt sources (in sources.list)?
>
> >
> > we are going with manually and giving
> > hostname as --->10.64.23.27
> > as path is
> > asdasd/repo1
> >
> > but we are getting -- bad archieve
> >
> > we have to install software while installing Debian
> >
> > in fact at other system where we have Debian , we have edited some
> > source.lst file , and we are able to install from this local server
> >
> > please help me
> >
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but we have to install using local server while installing,,, rather then
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Re: Unable to install debian via netinst.iso CD,

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 06:49:55PM +0530, narendra sisodiya wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to install Debian from this CD
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/iso-cd/debian-40r2-i386-netinst.iso
> all are going ok, but when we got option for selecting mirror we are unable
> to install
> 
> We have to install from a local server where all there DVD iso images are
> extracted like there following folder
> http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo1
> http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo2
> http://10.64.23.27/asdasd/repo3

You're supposed to have just one repository with everything in it.

Can you use those as apt sources (in sources.list)?

> 
> we are going with manually and giving
> hostname as --->10.64.23.27
> as path is
> asdasd/repo1
> 
> but we are getting -- bad archieve
> 
> we have to install software while installing Debian
> 
> in fact at other system where we have Debian , we have edited some
> source.lst file , and we are able to install from this local server
> 
> please help me
> 
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