Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Re: cupsys does not print: update

[Mark Maas]

On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 17:12 -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > Please remove this e-mail address and unsubscribe me from future
> > mailings.
> Hey!! READ the freeking message:
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> it is on the bottom of EVERY email you get from the freeking list.  I
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He has sent me the same message personally, not through debian email
addresses.

I'm guessing he has put up some sort of filter and auto response to
everyone...

If so, each new person joining and emailing this list will get this very
disturbing message from this guy. What can we do to "enlighten" him?

Mark


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Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 22:27, s. keeling wrote:
> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  On 04/25/08 11:46, David wrote:
[snip]
> 
>>> Is there a way to tell how much memory the Linux kernel is using,
>>> and what for?
>>  Not really.  Kernel 2.6.26 should expose better memory usage data,
>>  but apps like top(1) will have to be rewritten to use the new info.
> 
> Er, what?  Have we done away with RSS and VSZ, or are they just
> momentarily lost?  Is this Sid stuff?

http://virtualthreads.blogspot.com/2006/02/understanding-memory-usage-on-linux.html

Depending on how you look at it, ps is not reporting the real
memory usage of processes. What it is really doing is showing
how much real memory each process would take up if it were the
only process running. Of course, a typical Linux machine has
several dozen processes running at any given time, which means
that the VSZ and RSS numbers reported by ps are almost
definitely "wrong". In order to understand why, it is necessary
to learn how Linux handles shared libraries in programs.

>>  We want... a Shrubbery!!
> 
> JMO, you need a new .sig, but who am I to talk?

Spam and eggs?  Eggs and spam?

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Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

[s. keeling]

Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On 04/25/08 11:46, David wrote:
> > 
> > Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory
> > is used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the
> > usual init, getty, klogd, sshd, etc).
> 
>  Yes.

Yup.

> > I assume that this memory is being used for Linux caches - file
> > buffers etc to speed up disk access and so on.
> 
>  Yes.

Ditto.  Type free.  For a personal workstation, the relevant bit's how
much swap's used.  Where's your memory?  Look at the size of that
massive /proc/kcore of yours.  No, don't try to delete it.  :-)

> > Is there a way to tell how much memory the Linux kernel is using,
> > and what for?
> 
>  Not really.  Kernel 2.6.26 should expose better memory usage data,
>  but apps like top(1) will have to be rewritten to use the new info.

Er, what?  Have we done away with RSS and VSZ, or are they just
momentarily lost?  Is this Sid stuff?

>  We want... a Shrubbery!!

JMO, you need a new .sig, but who am I to talk?


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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 26/04/2008, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  On 04/25/08 21:13, s. keeling wrote:
>  > Sorry for the thread snatch.
>  >
>  > I'm (usually*) reading d-u in slrn via the mail to news gateway
>  > linux.debian.user.  I've seen this before and I'm wondering if there's
>  > anything I can do about it, other than going utf-8 myself (I've no
>  > need for it (I think)).
>  >
>  >   --
>  > Bipin Babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  >>  --=_Part_7962_22139442.1209161466138
>  >>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>  >>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>  >>  Content-Disposition: inline
>  >>
>  >>  
> T24gRnJpLCBBcHIgMjUsIDIwMDggYXQgMTo1OCBQTSwgR2lsbGVzIE1vY2VsbGluIDxnaWxsZXMu
>  >>  
> bW9jZWxsaW5AZnJlZS5mcj4Kd3JvdGU6Cgo+IExlIEZyaWRheSAyNSBBcHJpbCAyMDA4IDE1OjUw
>  >   --
>
>  What's the subject & timestamp of the message?  I retain all mails,
>  so I should be able to find it.
>
>  > Nothing in this mail is readable here, other than its headers and
>  > those Content-* lines.
>  >
>  > Is this just another reason for me to ignore posts from gmail, or is
>  > there anything I can do about it?  I'm installing metamail now, but
>  > that's just a shot in the dark.
>  >
>  > Etch, slrn 0.9.8.1pl1.  .slrnrc:
>  >
>  >set charset isolatin
>  >compatible_charsets us-ascii,iso-8859-1,iso-8859-15,utf-8
>  >
>  > ~/.profile:
>  >
>  >export LANG="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  >export LC_COLLATE=C
>  >
>  > (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ locale
>  > LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15
>  > LC_CTYPE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_NUMERIC="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_TIME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_COLLATE=C
>  > LC_MONETARY="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_MESSAGES="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_PAPER="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_NAME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_ADDRESS="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>  > LC_ALL=
>  >
>  > I have generated utf-8 locales on this thing, but I don't use them (I
>  > can't read/write/understand anything but English).  slrn does well
>  > with many foreign chars, but every once in a while it hits complete a
>  > brick wall on some posts, and I haven't been able to nail it down yet.
>  >
>  > Thanks.
>  >
>  >
>  > * the gateway's currently reporting it's down for maintenance.
>

Why are you against switching to UTF-8? Disk space? There really is no
other disadvantage, and even the diskspace arguement doesn't count for
much unless your drive is mostly uncompressed text files.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 21:13, s. keeling wrote:
> Sorry for the thread snatch.
> 
> I'm (usually*) reading d-u in slrn via the mail to news gateway
> linux.debian.user.  I've seen this before and I'm wondering if there's
> anything I can do about it, other than going utf-8 myself (I've no
> need for it (I think)).
> 
>   --
> Bipin Babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>  --=_Part_7962_22139442.1209161466138
>>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>>  Content-Disposition: inline
>>
>>  T24gRnJpLCBBcHIgMjUsIDIwMDggYXQgMTo1OCBQTSwgR2lsbGVzIE1vY2VsbGluIDxnaWxsZXMu
>>  bW9jZWxsaW5AZnJlZS5mcj4Kd3JvdGU6Cgo+IExlIEZyaWRheSAyNSBBcHJpbCAyMDA4IDE1OjUw
>   --

What's the subject & timestamp of the message?  I retain all mails,
so I should be able to find it.

> Nothing in this mail is readable here, other than its headers and
> those Content-* lines.
> 
> Is this just another reason for me to ignore posts from gmail, or is
> there anything I can do about it?  I'm installing metamail now, but
> that's just a shot in the dark.
> 
> Etch, slrn 0.9.8.1pl1.  .slrnrc:
> 
>set charset isolatin
>compatible_charsets us-ascii,iso-8859-1,iso-8859-15,utf-8
> 
> ~/.profile:
> 
>export LANG="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
>export LC_COLLATE=C
> 
> (0) phreaque /home/keeling_ locale
> LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15
> LC_CTYPE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_TIME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_COLLATE=C
> LC_MONETARY="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_PAPER="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_NAME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_ADDRESS="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
> LC_ALL=
> 
> I have generated utf-8 locales on this thing, but I don't use them (I
> can't read/write/understand anything but English).  slrn does well
> with many foreign chars, but every once in a while it hits complete a
> brick wall on some posts, and I haven't been able to nail it down yet.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> * the gateway's currently reporting it's down for maintenance.


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Re: Strange window problem

[s. keeling]

Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:57:28 +
>  Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:30:59AM -0400, Frank wrote:
> > > 
> > > For the past week or so I noticed an empty window which pops up
> > > seemingly at random on my screen. It looks like a terminalbut with
> > > no cursor inside. The only way it can be closed is by using xkill. I
> > > use IceWm and unless I kill it before logging out I can't log out!

Just suggestions, not answers, sorry.  :-(

xwininfo (in xbase-clients).

I don't know icewm, but what's in icewmtray?  I don't know rox either,
but could it be syncing with a online db or something?

I've never heard of [aio].

I notice hald is probing each usb device every two seconds.  I've no
idea whether that's normal.  Others can help, please?  I'm on etch
with no hald.

I see nothing obviously wrong here either, aside from the stuff of
which I'm ignorant.

> > > I'd appreciate any tips on tracking this thing down.
> > 
> > What do you see on 'ps fax'?
> 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ps fax  
>PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
>  2 ?S< 0:00 [kthreadd]
>  3 ?S< 0:00  \_ [migration/0]
>  4 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksoftirqd/0]
>  5 ?S< 0:00  \_ [watchdog/0]
>  6 ?S< 0:00  \_ [migration/1]
>  7 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksoftirqd/1]
>  8 ?S< 0:00  \_ [watchdog/1]
>  9 ?S< 0:00  \_ [events/0]
> 10 ?S< 0:01  \_ [events/1]
> 11 ?S< 0:00  \_ [khelper]
> 43 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kblockd/0]
> 44 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kblockd/1]
> 47 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kacpid]
> 48 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kacpi_notify]
>123 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kseriod]
>157 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kswapd0]
>158 ?S< 0:00  \_ [aio/0]
>159 ?S< 0:00  \_ [aio/1]
>507 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksuspend_usbd]
>535 ?S< 0:00  \_ [khubd]
>706 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata/0]
>707 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata/1]
>708 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata_aux]
>735 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_0]
>736 ?S< 0:00  \_ [usb-storage]
>766 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_1]
>769 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_2]
>861 ?D< 0:01  \_ [kjournald]
>   1442 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kpsmoused]
>   1776 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksnapd]
>   1807 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kjournald]
>   3545 ?S  0:00  \_ [pdflush]
>   4273 ?S  0:00  \_ [pdflush]
>  1 ?Ss 0:01 init [2]  
>939 ?S   1900 ?Ss 0:00 dhclient3 -pf /var/run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf 
> /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0
>   2094 ?Ds 0:00 /sbin/syslogd
>   2101 ?Ss 0:00 /sbin/klogd -x
>   2112 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
>   2387 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gpm -m /dev/input/mice -t exps2
>   2396 ?S  0:00 /usr/sbin/smartd --pidfile /var/run/smartd.pid
>   2407 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -u 103:105 -g
>   2420 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/hald
>   2421 ?S  0:00  \_ hald-runner
>   2441 ?S  0:00  \_ hald-addon-input: Listening on 
> /dev/input/event3 /dev/input/event2 /dev/input/event0
>   2449 ?S  0:00  \_ hald-addon-acpi: listening on acpi kernel 
> interface /proc/acpi/event
>   2460 ?S  0:01  \_ hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdc 
> (every 2 sec)
>   2462 ?S  0:02  \_ hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/hdd 
> (every 2 sec)
>   2464 ?S  0:01  \_ hald-addon-storage: polling /dev/sda 
> (every 2 sec)
>   2475 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/gdm
>   2480 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/sbin/gdm
>   2486 tty7 Ss+   12:54  \_ /usr/bin/X :0 -audit 0 -auth 
> /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
>   2623 ?Ss 0:00  \_ /usr/bin/icewm-session
>   2672 ?SNs0:00  \_ icewmbg
>   2673 ?Ss 4:16  \_ icewm --restart
>   2674 ?Ss 0:00  \_ icewmtray
>   2510 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron
>   2566 tty1 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
>   2567 tty2 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty2
>   2570 tty3 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty3
>   2571 tty4 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty4
>   2572 tty5 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty5
>   2573 tty6 Ss+0:00 /sbin/getty 38400 tty6
>   2621 ?S  0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon -d --login
>   2670 ?S  0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session 
> /usr/bin/icewm-session
>   2671 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 6 
> --print-address 9 --session
>   2677 ?S  2:52 gkrellm
>   2678 ?S  0:24 /usr/bin/rox -p=default
>  10665 ?S  0:00  \_ /usr/bin/rxvt-xpm -geometry 120x60 -

Re: Howto mount a Debian disk (LVM, dm-crypt)?

[Andrew Reid]

On Friday 25 April 2008 20:27, Hans Martin wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed an etch system the usual d-i way (using the complete disk,
> one partition, LVM, dm-crypted), but now I have to mount this disk on
> the same computer which now has a new (bigger) disk. I have an IDE/USB
> adaptor for this, but of course the easy way (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt or
> similar) does not work.
>
> Interestingly, when I connect the disk to my computer, I get a
> filemanager window which shows me the initrds and kernels and I get a
> passphrase prompt (is it gnome-mount?). I enter my passphrase, but
> only the init stuff is mounted, not the crypted part of the disk.
>
> Many thanks in expectation!

  You can manually start up the encrypted virtual device using
"cryptsetup luksOpen  ", where  is the 
base device, /dev/sd, and  is the virtual device you 
want to create.

  Once the decrypted device is set up, you can then do 
"mount /dev/mapper/ ", where  is the same
name as the foregoing command, and  is the mount point
where you want to put it.

  It's also possible that, after the luksOpen step, the file manager
will pop up with the new device, I'm not sure.

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[Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me? (was: Re: Grub2)

[s. keeling]

Sorry for the thread snatch.

I'm (usually*) reading d-u in slrn via the mail to news gateway
linux.debian.user.  I've seen this before and I'm wondering if there's
anything I can do about it, other than going utf-8 myself (I've no
need for it (I think)).

  --
Bipin Babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  --=_Part_7962_22139442.1209161466138
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
>  Content-Disposition: inline
> 
>  T24gRnJpLCBBcHIgMjUsIDIwMDggYXQgMTo1OCBQTSwgR2lsbGVzIE1vY2VsbGluIDxnaWxsZXMu
>  bW9jZWxsaW5AZnJlZS5mcj4Kd3JvdGU6Cgo+IExlIEZyaWRheSAyNSBBcHJpbCAyMDA4IDE1OjUw
  --

Nothing in this mail is readable here, other than its headers and
those Content-* lines.

Is this just another reason for me to ignore posts from gmail, or is
there anything I can do about it?  I'm installing metamail now, but
that's just a shot in the dark.

Etch, slrn 0.9.8.1pl1.  .slrnrc:

   set charset isolatin
   compatible_charsets us-ascii,iso-8859-1,iso-8859-15,utf-8

~/.profile:

   export LANG="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
   export LC_COLLATE=C

(0) phreaque /home/keeling_ locale
LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15
LC_CTYPE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_TIME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_COLLATE=C
LC_MONETARY="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_PAPER="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_NAME="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.ISO-8859-15"
LC_ALL=

I have generated utf-8 locales on this thing, but I don't use them (I
can't read/write/understand anything but English).  slrn does well
with many foreign chars, but every once in a while it hits complete a
brick wall on some posts, and I haven't been able to nail it down yet.

Thanks.


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Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set

[Kevin Mark]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:26:51AM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2008-04-25 04:28 +0200, Kevin Mark wrote:
> 
> > and there is a tool to verify that there are not missing files from your
> > installed DEB files (i think its 'debverify'?? if anyone know, do tell)
> 
> It's called `debsums', actually.
> 
> > |___  Unless I ask to be CCd, assume I am subscribed ___|
> 
> Your Mail-Followup-To header indicates that you want to be CC'ed.  Is
> that true?  [Sending this to you, but with M-F-T to the list.]
> 
> Sven
Hi Sven,
I use mutt with 'L' for list reply. Is that the way to fix the m-f-t?
If not, what suggestion?
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Re: Unmet dependencies Xfce4

[Daniel Burrows]

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 07:06:15AM +0100, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to 
say:
> Can someone please advise on the best way to handle the following  
> situation of unmet dependencies:
>
> $ sudo apt-get install xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-goodies
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> The following packages have unmet dependencies.
>  xfce4-systemload-plugin: Depends: libxfce4util-1 (>= 4.2.1-1) but it is 
> not going to be installed
>   Depends: libxfcegui4-3 (>= 4.2.1-1) but it is  
> not going to be installed
> E: Broken packages

  Have you tried resolving these explicitly?
  
apt-get install xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-goodies \
libxfce4util-1 libxfcegui4-3

  Did you check what version of each package is available and that the
versions satisfy the dependencies?  e.g., using something like this:

apt-cache madison xfce4-systemload-plugin xfce4-goodies

  Daniel


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Howto mount a Debian disk (LVM, dm-crypt)?

[Hans Martin]

Hi,

I installed an etch system the usual d-i way (using the complete disk,
one partition, LVM, dm-crypted), but now I have to mount this disk on
the same computer which now has a new (bigger) disk. I have an IDE/USB
adaptor for this, but of course the easy way (mount /dev/sda1 /mnt or
similar) does not work.

Interestingly, when I connect the disk to my computer, I get a
filemanager window which shows me the initrds and kernels and I get a
passphrase prompt (is it gnome-mount?). I enter my passphrase, but
only the init stuff is mounted, not the crypted part of the disk.

Many thanks in expectation!
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Network-manager wireless reconnect

[Miguel Gaiowski]

Hey everyone,


How do I get network-manager to retry to connect to a wireless network if
the signal goes down?

That is, everytime someone adds new rules to the router and restarts it, the
signal goes down for
some seconds... Network-manager will try to reconnect once then 'give up'.

I didn't find where(if possible) to choose how many times it should retry...

Any ideas?

Thanks a lot

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Notebook Latitude D630 don't shutdown properly after update

[Marcelo]

Hi,

After a update (~3 days ago) my D630 don't halt properly anymore.

When I try to shutdown by gnome or by # shutdown -h 0 my HD isn't finalized
properly and when I start/restart my system I got fsck work because my HD isn't
previous umounted.

My system:

Debian GNU/Linux lenny/sid

uname -a

Linux laia 2.6.24-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Apr 19 00:37:55 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux

I try kernel 2.6.22-3-686 and the problem is the same.

I did this updates (from dpkg.log)

2008-04-22 07:55:54 upgrade console-common 0.7.74 0.7.75
2008-04-22 07:55:56 upgrade libisc32 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:56 upgrade libdns32 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:56 upgrade libisccc30 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:56 upgrade libisccfg30 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:56 upgrade libbind9-30 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade liblwres30 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade bind9-host 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade dnsutils 1:9.4.2-8 1:9.4.2-10
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade avahi-autoipd 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade libdbus-1-3 1.1.20-1 1.2.1-1
2008-04-22 07:55:57 upgrade dbus 1.1.20-1 1.2.1-1
2008-04-22 07:55:58 upgrade libavahi-common-data 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:55:58 upgrade libavahi-common3 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:55:58 upgrade libavahi-core5 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:55:58 upgrade avahi-daemon 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:55:58 upgrade libgtkhtml3.14-19 3.18.0-1 3.18.1-1
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade gtkhtml3.14 3.18.0-1 3.18.1-1
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade libavahi-client3 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade libavahi-compat-libdnssd1 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade libavahi-glib1 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade libavahi-qt3-1 0.6.22-2 0.6.22-3
2008-04-22 07:56:00 upgrade libgl1-mesa-glx 7.0.3~rc2-2 7.0.3-1
2008-04-22 07:56:01 upgrade libglu1-mesa 7.0.3~rc2-2 7.0.3-1
2008-04-22 07:56:01 upgrade xsane 0.995-2 0.995-3
2008-04-22 07:56:01 upgrade xsane-common 0.995-2 0.995-3
2008-04-22 08:39:28 install debian-multimedia-keyring  2007.02.14
2008-04-22 08:49:52 install gcc-3.3-base  1:3.3.6-15
2008-04-22 08:49:52 install libstdc++5  1:3.3.6-15
2008-04-22 08:49:52 install w32codecs  1:20071007-0.1

2008-04-24 07:20:01 upgrade pciutils 1:2.2.10-1 1:2.2.10-2
2008-04-24 07:20:01 upgrade ca-certificates 20070303-0.1 20080411
2008-04-24 07:20:02 upgrade libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.19-1 0.10.19-3
2008-04-24 07:20:02 upgrade gstreamer0.10-tools 0.10.19-1 0.10.19-3
2008-04-24 07:20:02 upgrade libhtml-tagset-perl 3.20-1 3.20-2
2008-04-24 07:20:02 install python-gst0.10  0.10.11-1
2008-04-24 07:20:03 upgrade python2.5 2.5.2-2 2.5.2-3
2008-04-24 07:20:04 upgrade python2.5-minimal 2.5.2-2 2.5.2-3
2008-04-24 07:20:05 install libbrlapi0.5  3.9-6
2008-04-24 07:20:05 upgrade qemu 0.9.1-3 0.9.1-4
2008-04-24 07:20:09 upgrade rhythmbox 0.11.5-1 0.11.5-2

2008-04-25 07:35:57 upgrade linux-image-2.6.24-1-686 2.6.24-5 2.6.24-6
2008-04-25 07:36:11 install libcwidget3  0.5.11-1
2008-04-25 07:36:11 install libxapian15  1.0.5-1
2008-04-25 07:36:11 install libept0  0.5.17
2008-04-25 07:36:11 upgrade aptitude 0.4.10-1+b2 0.4.11.2-1
2008-04-25 07:36:13 upgrade manpages 2.79-2 2.79-3
2008-04-25 07:36:14 upgrade python-central 0.6.1 0.6.5
2008-04-25 07:36:14 upgrade libdbus-glib-1-2 0.74-1 0.74-2
2008-04-25 07:36:14 upgrade libelfg0 0.8.6-4 0.8.10-1
2008-04-25 07:36:14 upgrade linux-headers-2.6.24-1-686 2.6.24-5 2.6.24-6
2008-04-25 07:36:17 upgrade linux-headers-2.6.24-1-common 2.6.24-5 2.6.24-6
2008-04-25 07:36:20 upgrade linux-libc-dev 2.6.24-5 2.6.24-6
2008-04-25 07:36:21 upgrade linux-source-2.6.24 2.6.24-5 2.6.24-6

After the shutdown command the system close X (gnome) and stop for a few seconds
on a screen like a console (ctrl+alt+f2) with:

(... a lot of shutdown messages and ...)

/dev/sda:
 setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)

/dev/hda:
setting Advanced Power Management level to 0xfe (254)
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD failed: Input/output error

laia login:

(laia is my computer name)

and suddenly power off in this point!

I try to set the hparm manually and got this one:

marcelo  laia:~$ sudo hdparm -I /dev/hda

/dev/hda:

ATAPI CD-ROM, with removable media
Model Number:   TSSTcorp DVD+/-RW TS-L632H  
Serial Number:  
Firmware Revision:  D300
Standards:
Supported: CD-ROM ATAPI-3 -4 -5 -6 -7 
Configuration:
DRQ response: 50us.
Packet size: 12 bytes
Capabilities:
LBA, IORDY(can be disabled)
DMA: mdma0 mdma1 mdma2 udma0 udma1 *udma2 
 Cycle time: min=120ns recommended=120ns
PIO: pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4 
 Cycle time: no flow control=383ns  IORDY flow control=120ns
Commands/features:
Enabled Supported:
   *Power Management feature set
   *PACKET command feature set
   *DEVICE_RESET command
   *NOP cmd
HW reset results:
CBLID- below Vi

Re: system sounds [ FIXED]

[H H]

H H wrote:
Hi, wonder if anyone can give me a clue to getting the system sounds 
working on my lenny 64bit? All other sounds worked fine so i installed 
esound which got system sounds working but my skype and youtube stopped 
working. I have uninstalled esound to get skype and youtube back 
stopping the system sounds again so is there a way to have system sounds 
 with skype sound and youtube working?


Jeff



Thought i had better reply now its all working. Seems like installing 
libesd-alsa0 as well as esound has done the trick.



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Re: First time ssh user needs help, getting authentication failures

[Nathaniel Homier]

Rafael Fontenelle wrote:
2008/4/25, Nathaniel Homier <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>:


So I aptitude ssh and set it up according to this document:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch-sec-services.en.html#s5.1

I get authentication failures.  I am using Etch completely updated
on my home computer and was using the Ubuntu 8.04 live CD at my
mothers house.  coming home and checking auth.log it said "Invalid
user ubuntu".  On the live cd at my mothers house I used $ssh
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, where username is my
username on my home computer.  I am looking to set up ssh to require
a username and password on my home computer but I am open to new
ideas if they are secure.  I'll put my sshd_config and ssh_config on
my home computer below.  Any recomendations on how to set up the
files on a live cd, soon to be a debian live cd.

Hi Nathaniel.

Normally, when sshd returns Invalid user it means that this user doesn't 
exist. Wasn't this "invalid user ubuntu" an attempt you made with wrong 
username?
And did you try just running 'ssh [computer host and domain]' and then 
insert the user when asked?


Try some stuffs and send us the ssh client output when failed connecting.

Cheers,

Rafael


Well I was trying to setup key based authentication and I figured it out 
I think.  The rsa.pub key has to go into authorized_keys, and then I was 
using a live cd and failed to generate the key and at any rate I had no 
way to copy the key with password auth turned off.  I also should 
mention that I got rsa to work for the localhost.  It looks to be a real 
drag for non local servers and I think I may just use password auth 
instead as that way I don't have to bother with key transport, otherwise 
I think I would have to setup password auth anyway to allow me to copy 
the key to the other server.  With password auth all I need it the IP or 
domain and I can just call ahead to get those for Allowuser parameter. 
Another thing I did was to setup and install denyhosts package. 
Denyhosts is really great for sshd setup with password auth.



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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Bob McGowan]

Mark Allums wrote:

Bob McGowan wrote:

 > In any case, see below...
 >
 >> Low-level used to need to be done for some reasons, such as to adjust


---DELETED stuff---


 >

Well, as I said, I do not have first-hand experience with it.  I have 
read many times that low-level formatting is done by special equipment 
at the factory.  I suppose I should do some Googling, and read some more 
on the subject, to be properly informed.


Thanks for reminding me about the Maxtor disk checker utility.




The same goes for me, regarding first hand experience with the internals 
of a disk drive, etc.


I, too, shall have to do some research.

By the "definition", if you will, used in the Readme.txt, that the 
utility writes zeros to the disk, and given that the appropriate dd 
command can be said to do the same, I'm left wondering as well about 
just exactly what this tool is doing.


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Re: Strange window problem

[Frank McCormick]

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On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:57:28 +
Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:30:59AM -0400, Frank wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > For the past week or so I noticed an empty window which pops up
> > seemingly at random on my screen. It looks like a terminalbut with
> > no cursor inside. The only way it can be closed is by using xkill. I
> > use IceWm and unless I kill it before logging out I can't log out!
> > 
> > I'd appreciate any tips on tracking this thing down.
> 
> What do you see on 'ps fax'?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo ps fax  
  PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND
2 ?S< 0:00 [kthreadd]
3 ?S< 0:00  \_ [migration/0]
4 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksoftirqd/0]
5 ?S< 0:00  \_ [watchdog/0]
6 ?S< 0:00  \_ [migration/1]
7 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksoftirqd/1]
8 ?S< 0:00  \_ [watchdog/1]
9 ?S< 0:00  \_ [events/0]
   10 ?S< 0:01  \_ [events/1]
   11 ?S< 0:00  \_ [khelper]
   43 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kblockd/0]
   44 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kblockd/1]
   47 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kacpid]
   48 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kacpi_notify]
  123 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kseriod]
  157 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kswapd0]
  158 ?S< 0:00  \_ [aio/0]
  159 ?S< 0:00  \_ [aio/1]
  507 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksuspend_usbd]
  535 ?S< 0:00  \_ [khubd]
  706 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata/0]
  707 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata/1]
  708 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ata_aux]
  735 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_0]
  736 ?S< 0:00  \_ [usb-storage]
  766 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_1]
  769 ?S< 0:00  \_ [scsi_eh_2]
  861 ?D< 0:01  \_ [kjournald]
 1442 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kpsmoused]
 1776 ?S< 0:00  \_ [ksnapd]
 1807 ?S< 0:00  \_ [kjournald]
 3545 ?S  0:00  \_ [pdflush]
 4273 ?S  0:00  \_ [pdflush]
1 ?Ss 0:01 init [2]  
  939 ?S

Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Mark Allums]

Bob McGowan wrote:

> In any case, see below...
>
>> Low-level used to need to be done for some reasons, such as to adjust
>> the sector interleave, or to switch the drive to a different physical
>> orientation (required with stepper motor head positioning).  It is no
>> longer required to do it more than once, and it is always done at the
>> factory.
>
> I am not aware of any other kind of formatting, either.  So, some
> excerpts from the Readme.txt file that came with the "PowerMax" utility
> I downloaded in November of 2005.


I stand corrected.  Of course, I was informing everyone of something 
which I have read multiple times, in various places.  I am not a hard 
drive designer, or other kind of expert of that sort.  I believe it to 
be current fact, but I have no first-hand knowledge of it.



>
> Begin quoted text excerpts:
>
> Subject:  Using Maxtor's Power Diagnostic (POWERMAX.EXE) Utilities
>   (PowerMax v 4.XXX)
>
> ...
>
>   6.The best test for a drive with intermittent problems is a 'low
> level' format routine.  !! Warning !! This test will erase all
> your data, but the drive will be restored to a 'factory
> re-certified' condition.  Be sure to make a full backup of all
> critical data before proceeding.  If your computer has more than
> one hard drive, be sure to choose the correct drive. If a drive
> fails this test, it usually indicates a drive failure.
>
> ...


It does say "'low level' format".  I recall seeing this before, now that 
it is brought to my attention.  I had a Maxtor drive that failed, and 
ran the same utility.  It was under warranty, and was replaced...



>
> Overview of tests using POWERMAX.EXE:
>
> PowerMax is a keyboard menu driven diagnostic. Choices and options are
> displayed at the bottom of the screen. Further instructions are
> displayed at the bottom of the popup window display when a test 
completes.

>
> Available Tests:
>
> 1.  Installation Confirmation
> 2.  Basic Quick (90 Second) Test
> 3.  Advanced Test (Full Scan Test)
> 4.  Burn In Test
> 5.  Low Level Format (Quick)
> 6.  Low Level format  (Full)
> ...
>
> Low Level Format, Quick or Full Test:
>
> !! Warning!!  These tests are data destructive, all user information on
> the hard drive is removed. Maxtor recommends you backup all critical
> data and remove other hard drives before performing this test. Perform
> this test only if all other tests have passed (or by direction of Maxtor
> Technical Support) but the hard drive is still not performing correctly.
>  The quick option is most useful for removing a computer virus, or you
> are rebuilding the information on your hard drive,  and you need a quick
> erase of the operating system without taking the time involved to
> perform a full LLF. The quick LLF overwrites a pattern of zeros to the
> first 300 megabytes, and the last 100 megabytes of the drive. The full
> LLF overwrites a pattern of zeros to all sectors on the drive.  High
> capacity hard drives take longer to complete. Allow sufficient time to
> complete the test.  Several hours to overnight may be needed.  A full
> Low Level Format remains the most effective test for a drive with
> intermittent problems.
>
> End quotation section.


I wonder just what the test is really doing, if all IDE drives since the 
 early '90s are not capable of low level formatting, as I have been led 
to believe?



>
> I was quoting, from memory, this information.  I do admit to
> generalizing it to include other makes of drives, which it appears was
> an invalid generalization, based on your information.
>

Well, as I said, I do not have first-hand experience with it.  I have 
read many times that low-level formatting is done by special equipment 
at the factory.  I suppose I should do some Googling, and read some more 
on the subject, to be properly informed.


Thanks for reminding me about the Maxtor disk checker utility.


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Re: mutt + mailings list ( + vim)

[Alex Samad]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:30:48AM -0400, Brian McKee wrote:
>
> On 21-Apr-08, at 7:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Am 21.04.2008 um 23:45 schrieb Alex Samad:
>>> so whilst viewing an email, I press shift-l, this starts vim with the
>>> emails, I then use up and down arrows and v to highlight some text, I
>>> would then like to press  and have the text replaced 
>>> by
>>> [snip]
> [snippage]
>> map  di[snip]
> [snippage]
>> You make a selection in vim, i.e. press Shift+v, then go down a few
>> lines, and then press the shortcut, which will delete the selection  
>> (d),
>> go into insert mode (i) and put in your text and then leave insert  
>> mode
>> again ().
> [snippage]
>> You'll have to play around a bit to see how you want things when you
>> don't select full lines.
>
> Wouldn't 'c' be better than 'di' ?



For some reason  did not register on so I tried it with ^[[23^
(got this from the manual, I type ctrl-V and then the keycombo)

>
> Brian
>



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system sounds

[H H]

Hi, wonder if anyone can give me a clue to getting the system sounds 
working on my lenny 64bit? All other sounds worked fine so i installed 
esound which got system sounds working but my skype and youtube stopped 
working. I have uninstalled esound to get skype and youtube back 
stopping the system sounds again so is there a way to have system sounds 
 with skype sound and youtube working?


Jeff


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Re: Grub2

[Bipin Babu]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Gilles Mocellin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Le Friday 25 April 2008 15:50:50 Bipin Babu, vous avez écrit :
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Anyone tried Grub2?
>
> I do since some weeks.
>
> > I run lenny and Grub2 is only a 'dummy package' in the
> > repository. I have the standard apt sources. Any howto to replace the
> > existing grub with grub2 would be great.
>
> The real package is grub-pc (for pc architecture).
> Just insall it, it will propose you to just chainload from the existing
> grub
> to test.
> After that, it can totally replace grub by installing it to the MBR with
> grub-install.
>
> > BTW what is GFX-Grub? Is it a patch for GRUB or GRUB2? I don't see it in
> > the lenny repos. Any idea?
>
> gfx is for grub 1.x.
> grub 2 support graphics but I don't think there is such themes as in
> Fedora/OpenSuse/Ubuntu (gfx-grub).
>
>
>
Thank you Giles. In-fact I just installed it...and the scripts made it
really easy.

Question: Now when i reboot it still shows me 'GRUB Version 1.96' am I
seeing it right?

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Re: Grub2

[Kelly Clowers]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 6:50 AM, Bipin Babu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone tried Grub2?  I run lenny and Grub2 is only a 'dummy package' in the
> repository. I have the standard apt sources. Any howto to replace the
> existing grub with grub2 would be great.
>
> BTW what is GFX-Grub? Is it a patch for GRUB or GRUB2? I don't see it in the
> lenny repos. Any idea?

I just thought I'd say that I have been using Grub2 for several months, and I
haven't had any problems. I think Gilles' email answers your questions. Good
luck.


Cheers
Kelly Clowers


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difference between kernel logs and /sys/class/net

[Martin Fuzzey]

Hi all,

I have a machine running debian etch (2.6.18) with an onboard (8159)
ethernet interface and a firewire port.
By default both the kernel (as witnessed by dmesg) and /sys/class/net see
eth0 = firewire
eth1 = ethernet

If I blacklist the ieee1394, uhci1394 and eth1394 modules (or
disactivate the 1394 port in the bios) the kernel dmesg logs now show
eth0=ethernet as expected BUT /sys/class/net shows only eth1 (which is
the ethernet)

This is causing udev to assign the ethernet to eth1, even if I delete
the z25-persistent-net.rules file. This is logical since looking at
the udev scripts they scan /sys/class/net and use the devices assigned
there unless that conflicts with the current config.

I could get ethernet assigned to eth0 by editing (rather than
deleting) the persisten-net.rules file but I'm trying to create a disk
image whichj can be installed on multiple machines (and could thus
include appropriate module blacklists but not autogenerated udev rules
which depend on the final target network card MAC addreses)

In case it matters I'm not using debian installer but debootstrap +
grub to generate the disk.

any ideas appreciated,

Martin


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Re: *****SPAM***** Re: Re: cupsys does not print: update

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Re: no text or icons in x with intel x3100 (gdm and xfce)

[Micha]

On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:31:38 +0300
Micha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tried configuring my new computer with ati x3100 graphics card
> 

of course it's an intel x3100, not ati ...

> If I use debian's default configuration  don't get any text or icons at all on
> screen, that includes gdm, xfce menus and toolbars, terminal, etc
> 
> with the vesa mode forced it works and with ubuntu, same xorg.conf and compiz
> it works also
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> thanks
> 
> 


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custom kernel and make kpkg modules_image

[Damon L. Chesser]

I made a custom kernel:

make kpkg --revision=.custom.10 --append-to-version=.cybo.1 --initrd 
kernel_image


this issued in:   linux-image-2.6.25.cybo.1_custom.1.0_amd64.deb

I installed this and wanted to make nvidia modules for it:

make-kpkg modules_image

This issued an error: (para phrased, in a new kernel after a reboot)

I thought we were making version 2.6.25.custom.1.0 but we find 2.6.25.cybo.1

It has been a while since I custom made a kernel:  how do I change the 
versioning number to match the kernel I made?


contents of conf.vars:

This is kernel package version 11.001-0.1.
VERSION  = 2
PATCHLEVEL   = 6
SUBLEVEL = 25
EXTRAVERSION =
APPEND_TO_VERSION = .cybo.1
KPKG_SELECTED_MODULES =
Debian Revision  = custom.1.0
KPKG_ARCH=
do_parallel  =
fast_dep =

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Newbie trying to configure his hardware (video, sound and wifi).

[soyivan soyivan]

Hi!

I am no so new in Linux, but yes as administrator of my own machine, last
times I were just using normal applications and so on.  I have in my
computer installed Debian Etch, and I have installed Ubuntu and Xandros
recently.

In Ubuntu and Xandros, I have no problems with Audio, but in Debian Etch,
sound is very low, its almost imposible to hear nothing.  I see in control
center (I have both KDE and GNOME), and honestly I dont know where to
touch  In xandros, some way I saw the sistem recognize my sound card...
so its there drivers for Linux somewhere...

About video, is almost the same, in Xandros I see system recognize perfectly
my video card (again in Control Center), but in Ubuntu and in Debian Etch
(as i wrote before I have installed the last Debian), video is not
recognized.   I can use KDE and GNOME, them X server too, with standard
resolutions.  Its a problem for me because I have a wide monitor and then i
need a resolution for dont see my face so fat in the pictures ;-)

And finally, wireless is not recognizer in any system I tried, I am about to
try OpenSolaris but well, just for fun, I still wants to keep using Etch
with some packages I add.

Just in case you need to know details about my hardware (all is integrated
in the ASUS motherboard):
Audio: Realtek ALC 883
Video: Integrated Intel Graphics Media Acelerator 3000
Wifi: Asus Wifi AP-solo



Any help, url to visit, etc, will be really valuable for me, as long I am so
newbie in this configuration stuff.

Thanks in advance to all of you!

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Re: cupsys does not print: update

[Damon L. Chesser]

Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Two systems:  amd64 and i386.  Both ran Sid.  printer is networked 
with 192.168.200.150.  Added printer via localhost:631 as a network 
(LPD) printer url is lpd://192.168.200.150/lpt1.


The printer comes to life, the data light blinks (Samsung ML-1430) 
then the server stops making noise but the data light keeps blinking.  
No paper comes out.


re-installed i386 to stable, re-add the printer via 
gnome-cups-manager, tested, same results.  So this is not a Sid issue.


tested from a win box, prints fine.

tested from ubuntu live (thinking maybe the Hawkings tech. print 
server was going bad), prints fine.


This worked a month ago on Sid (amd64 box) before I test drove ubuntu.

I don't see any obvious bug reports.

I don't see a flood of messages coming across here.

Nothing in the cups error log:
E [04/Apr/2008:14:04:57 -0400] PID 26233 (/usr/lib/cups/backend/lpd) 
stopped with status 1!

E [04/Apr/2008:14:06:54 -0400] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [04/Apr/2008:14:19:57 -0400] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized
E [04/Apr/2008:14:19:59 -0400] CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer: Unauthorized

all messages there are accounted for.

the print jobs just stays in the print spool.

All this is very strange.  I have not had this issue before (though I 
have had printing killed in sid, never in sid and stable).  What to do?





Ok, found out it is kernel related. re-installed stable and did NO 
updates (even security updates), tested cupsys, it worked.  Did security 
updates, got a new kernel.


output of uname -a for both kernels:

Linux dam-main-deb 2.6.22-3-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Nov 4 18:18:09 UTC 2007 
x86_64 GNU/Linux
Linux dam-main-deb 2.6.24-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Apr 18 23:08:22 UTC 2008 
x86_64 GNU/Linux



The new kernel did not print to cupsys printer, but the spool (blinking 
lights and network activity) looks like it is transmitting very slowly.  
Eventually the printer will print an error report.  This takes so long, 
only once have I gotten one.


Ok, so 2.6.24-1 is bad for me.  I grabbed the latest kernel source from 
kernel.org and made a kernel (2.6.25).  Same issue.


So, what do I do now, who do I file a bug report to?  This is not a 
debian patch (kernel.org source had same issue), not a cupsys bug. Same 
package load out works with 2.6.22 but not with >2.6.22.


btw, at this point I am on Sid with a 2.6.22-3-amd64 kernel or a 2.66.25 
custom kernel (used 2.6.22 config to make)


I am at a loss as how to fix this, any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Grub2

[Gilles Mocellin]

Le Friday 25 April 2008 15:50:50 Bipin Babu, vous avez écrit :
> Hi All,
>
> Anyone tried Grub2?

I do since some weeks.

> I run lenny and Grub2 is only a 'dummy package' in the 
> repository. I have the standard apt sources. Any howto to replace the
> existing grub with grub2 would be great.

The real package is grub-pc (for pc architecture).
Just insall it, it will propose you to just chainload from the existing grub 
to test.
After that, it can totally replace grub by installing it to the MBR with 
grub-install.

> BTW what is GFX-Grub? Is it a patch for GRUB or GRUB2? I don't see it in
> the lenny repos. Any idea?

gfx is for grub 1.x.
grub 2 support graphics but I don't think there is such themes as in 
Fedora/OpenSuse/Ubuntu (gfx-grub).




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Re: exim4

[Mark Maas]

On Fri, 2008-04-25 at 08:28 -0400, J. Little wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have two questions.
> 
> First, there are forged junk emails put return_path to me. I from time
> to time receive undelivered emails (i.e., no such user). How can I
> reject those undelivered emails?

Try this one:
http://slett.net/spam-filtering-for-mx/exim-bounces.html

> 
> Second, I found there are spammers using dial-up connection (slow but
> not blacklisted) to send junk emails. How to reject those junk emails?
> 

Some blacklists are actually doing nothing else *but* target dial up ip
adress blocks.

http://www.exim.org/howto/rbl.html

> Thank you very much.
> 
> 

Hope this was of any use to you.


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Re: importing a

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:59:34 +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:27:57 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> > does anyone know how to  Import the archive signing key from :
> > 
> > http://www.debian.org/volatile/etch-volatile.asc
> 
> wget http://www.debian.org/volatile/etch-volatile.asc
> apt-key add etch-volatile.asc

[ snip: how to verify the authentiticy of the downloaded key ]

I answered your direct question, but now I realize that I should also
have pointed out that the etch-volatile key is included in the
debian-archive-keyring package (version 2007.07.31~etch1). Installing
this package should add the key to apt's keyring automatically.

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no text or icons in xserver (gdm and xfce)

[Micha]

I tried configuring my new computer with ati x3100 graphics card

If I use debian's default configuration  don't get any text or icons at all on
screen, that includes gdm, xfce menus and toolbars, terminal, etc

with the vesa mode forced it works and with ubuntu, same xorg.conf and compiz
it works

any ideas?

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Re: Can'r record in audacity

[Frank McCormick]

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Mark Neidorff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Friday 25 April 2008 02:05 pm, Frank McCormick wrote:
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> >
> > I have been trying to record in audacity without success. Using
> > alsamixergui all the relevant controls are up and on.
> > Audacity plays back fine using the Alsa default, but none of the 6
> > connections shown in the Audacity dialogue including Alsa default work.
> > Audacity works in Ubuntu Gutsy using Alsa default in both playing back
> > and recording.
> > I am using Debian Sid/Lenny.
> 
> What are your settings in the audacity "Audio I/O" preferences?


   At the moment Alsa default for both recording and playback. But I have
tried all the selections for recording which are available in that box and
none works. Alsa default allows me to record but its just noise, not the
input from the mike. All the others give me a "error opening device"
dialogue box. Strange thing is it works in Ubuntu Gutsy and I am
embarrassed to say the mike also works fine on my wife's XP box.

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Re: importing a

[Florian Kulzer]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:27:57 -0400, Michael Habashy wrote:
> does anyone know how to  Import the archive signing key from :
> 
> http://www.debian.org/volatile/etch-volatile.asc

wget http://www.debian.org/volatile/etch-volatile.asc
apt-key add etch-volatile.asc

(Only the second command needs root privileges.)

If you want to be serious about security then you should check Andreas
Barth's signature on the etch-volatile key, using Barth's public key
that is contained in the debian-keyring package:

gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg 
--keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --check-sigs Debian-Volatile

(You have to run this command as root because apt's trusted keyring
 /etc/apt/trusted.gpg is not readable by anybody else by default.)

The idea is that the debian-keyring package is vouched for by the normal
Debian archive signing key (which you trust already), so it is
reasonable to extend your trust to the etch-volatile key if Barth's
signature checks out. You have to look for this line in the output of
the gpg command:

sig! EC36A185 2007-03-31  Andreas Barth (Debian Key) 

The "!" means that the signature could be verified.

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Re: Can'r record in audacity

[Mark Neidorff]

On Friday 25 April 2008 02:05 pm, Frank McCormick wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
>
> I have been trying to record in audacity without success. Using
> alsamixergui all the relevant controls are up and on.
> Audacity plays back fine using the Alsa default, but none of the 6
> connections shown in the Audacity dialogue including Alsa default work.
> Audacity works in Ubuntu Gutsy using Alsa default in both playing back and
> recording.
> I am using Debian Sid/Lenny.
>
> What's the secret here ??
>
[chomp]

What are your settings in the audacity "Audio I/O" preferences?


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Re: Fwd: Installing flashplayer

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 13:34, Rafael Fontenelle wrote:
[snip]
> 
>> Run "apt-cache showpkg flashplugin-nonfree" to determine what
> packages are
>> available in your current repositories.  Also which version of
> Debian you are
>> using?
> 
> 
> And do you have debian-multimedia.org 
> in your sources.list file?
> 

> http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
> This link informs that you have to add backport.org
>  to your sources.list. You may follow this article
> to install it.

> I notice that when I run "apt-cache search flash plugin" I get some GPL
> plugins to firefox. Does someone know the difference between this and
> the nonfree?

(Please turn of html formatting.)

Which branch are you running?  Stable, Testing or Sid?

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Re: Problems understanding RAM usage in top

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 11:46, David wrote:
> Hi list.
> 
> Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory is
> used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the usual init,
> getty, klogd, sshd, etc).

Yes.

> I assume that this memory is being used for Linux caches - file
> buffers etc to speed up disk access and so on.

Yes.

>Is there a way to tell
> how much memory the Linux kernel is using, and what for?

Not really.  Kernel 2.6.26 should expose better memory usage data,
but apps like top(1) will have to be rewritten to use the new info.

> I'm busy tracking down OOM killer issues on a server and I'm wondering
> if there is a memory leak somewhere (eg: lvm or another kernel
> module). Nothing (besides the usuals) is running, but top is showing
> 900/1024 MB ram used, and 158/1024 MB swap used.

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Fwd: Installing flashplayer

[Rafael Fontenelle]

2008/4/25, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
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>
> On 04/25/08 10:57, Chris Roberts wrote:
> > On Friday 25 Apr 2008, simon rowe wrote:
> >> I have recently installed Debian for the first time
> >> and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
> >> am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
> >> below is the output that I am getting:
> >>
> >> simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> >> Reading package lists... Done
> >> Building dependency tree... Done
> >> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
> >> referred to by another package.
> >> This may mean that the package is missing, has been
> >> obsoleted, or
> >> is only available from another source
> >> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation
> >> candidate
> >>
> >
> > Run "apt-cache showpkg flashplugin-nonfree" to determine what packages
> are
> > available in your current repositories.  Also which version of Debian you
> are
> > using?
>
>
> And do you have debian-multimedia.org in your sources.list file?
>
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http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer
This link informs that you have to add backport.org to your sources.list.
You may follow this article to install it.

I notice that when I run "apt-cache search flash plugin" I get some GPL
plugins to firefox. Does someone know the difference between this and the
nonfree?

Cheers,

Rafael

importing a

[Michael Habashy]

does anyone know how to  Import the archive signing key from :

http://www.debian.org/volatile/etch-volatile.asc


???
thanks
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Can'r record in audacity

[Frank McCormick]

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I have been trying to record in audacity without success. Using
alsamixergui all the relevant controls are up and on.
Audacity plays back fine using the Alsa default, but none of the 6
connections shown in the Audacity dialogue including Alsa default work.
Audacity works in Ubuntu Gutsy using Alsa default in both playing back and
recording.
I am using Debian Sid/Lenny.

What's the secret here ??


lspci output

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM
Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1d.0
USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB
Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller
#3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
#(ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller:
#Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
#00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface:
Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus:
Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:08.0 Ethernet controller:
Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
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 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 1: Intel ICH - MIC ADC [Intel ICH5 - MIC
ADC] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 2: Intel ICH - MIC2 ADC [Intel ICH5 -
MIC2 ADC] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 3: Intel ICH - ADC2 [Intel ICH5 - ADC2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ 

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Re: Installing flashplayer

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 10:57, Chris Roberts wrote:
> On Friday 25 Apr 2008, simon rowe wrote:
>> I have recently installed Debian for the first time
>> and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
>> am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
>> below is the output that I am getting:
>>
>> simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree... Done
>> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
>> referred to by another package.
>> This may mean that the package is missing, has been
>> obsoleted, or
>> is only available from another source
>> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation
>> candidate
>>
> 
> Run "apt-cache showpkg flashplugin-nonfree" to determine what packages are 
> available in your current repositories.  Also which version of Debian you are 
> using?

And do you have debian-multimedia.org in your sources.list file?

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Can'r record in audacity

[Frank McCormick]

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I have been trying to record in audacity without success. Using
alsamixergui all the relevant controls are up and on.
Audacity plays back fine using the Alsa default, but none of the 6
connections shown in the Audacity dialogue including Alsa default work.
Audacity works in Ubuntu Gutsy using Alsa default in both playing back and
recording.
I am using Debian Sid/Lenny.

What's the secret here ??


lspci output

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82865G/PE/P DRAM
Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller:
Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:1d.0
USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI
Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB
Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller
#3 (rev 02) 00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
#(ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller:
#Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
#00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC
Interface Bridge (rev 02) 00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation
82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) IDE Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 IDE interface:
Intel Corporation 82801EB (ICH5) SATA Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus:
Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER
(ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02) 01:08.0 Ethernet controller:
Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ arecord -l

 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel ICH5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 1: Intel ICH - MIC ADC [Intel ICH5 - MIC
ADC] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 2: Intel ICH - MIC2 ADC [Intel ICH5 -
MIC2 ADC] Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 3: Intel ICH - ADC2 [Intel ICH5 - ADC2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
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Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

[Hans Martin]

Jordi wrote:
> On 25/04/2008, Hans Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >  1. I like to have half of my disk crypted (with /, /usr/, /home,
> >all in one crypted partition), and the other half without
> >encryption e.g. as /usr/local).
> [snip]
...
> Neither of those configuration options are yet available in d-i.

OK, so what would be the best way to achieve at least point 1
manually? I assume, I take the complete disk as PV, right?
Than I create a VG on it. Follow the logival volumes, but do
I need two or three? One small for the init-rd stuff? How big?
One crypted and one non-crypted? TIA!

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Re: Debugging a java programme

[andy]

Rafael Fontenelle wrote:
2008/4/25, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>:


Hello

I tried to run a java-based programme on a Lenny machine. This is
what happened:

$ java jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar
 at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar not found in
gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./],
parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
 at gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
 at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
$

Is this because I invoked the programme incorrectly or am I
missing some libraries?

I'd appreciate any assistance as I need this programme for my studies.

Many thanks

Andy



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Hi there.

I'm don't know much about running java in command-line, but I think 
the problem is that you didn't call the classpath. Firstly, is 
CLASSPATH environment variable set (Try echo $CLASSPATH)? Secondly, I 
think you should run java with the "-classpath" switch. Not sure, but 
the command might look like this:


java -classpath #CLASSPATH, 

Try it out let us know.

Cheers,

Rafael

Hi Rafael & Linc

Thanks for your rapid responses to my distress call!

Rafael, I ran echo $CLASSPATH and there was no output; the cursor just 
jumped to the next line waiting for further input.


Linc, I used your suggestion about running it  java -jar and had *some* 
progress - a window popped up, albeit there was no text in it and 
nothing further happened.


So I downloaded a related application (an earlier version) and tried 
java -jar emsim.jar and this was the output:


$ java -jar emsim.jar
Exception during event dispatch:
java.lang.ArithmeticException: / by zero
  at javax.swing.text.PlainView.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.text.FieldView.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI$RootView.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI.paintSafely(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicTextUI.update(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintComponent(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JLayeredPane.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paintDoubleBuffered(libgcj.so.90)
  at javax.swing.JComponent.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Container$GfxPaintVisitor.visit(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Container.visitChild(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Container.visitChildren(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Container.paint(libgcj.so.90)
  at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkComponentPeer.paintComponent(libgcj.so.90)
  at gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkComponentPeer.handleEvent(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
Killed

I killed it with Ctrl+c because while there was some text in the 
dialogue box, nothing else was happening making it pretty unusable.


So, considering that echo $CLASSPATH produced no output, what should I 
have seen? The documents with the programme aren't very helpful - they 
assume that the programme is up and running first, and go into the nuts 
and bolts of how to use the programme. Because it is quite a

Re: new computer maybe wrong dvd burner

[Mumia W..]

On 04/25/2008 03:11 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I got a dvd burner in a refurbished more modern machine and may have got 
the wrong brand and model.  Later I'll get some help changing booting 
order in cmos to pick this drive up.  For now I don't know what device 
to try and mount this drive with:

Script started on Fri 25 Apr 2008 04:03:35 AM EDT
ns:~# wodim -scanbus
scsibus1000:
1000,0,0 10) *
1000,1,0 11) *
1000,2,0 12) 'LITE-ON ' 'DVDRW LDW-451S  ' 'GSB4' Removable CD-ROM
1000,3,0 13) *
1000,4,0 14) *
1000,5,0 15) *
1000,6,0 16) *
1000,7,0 17) *
ns:~# exit
exit

Script done on Fri 25 Apr 2008 04:03:57 AM EDT





When you connect the drive, kernel messages are created. Those messages 
can be listed using the "dmesg" utility. Probably, the kernel will tell 
where the device is located.





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Re: Questions about d-i disk encryption

[Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso]

On 25/04/2008, Hans Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  1. I like to have half of my disk crypted (with /, /usr/, /home,
>all in one crypted partition), and the other half without
>encryption e.g. as /usr/local).
[snip]
>  2. Because I'm experimenting with the installation, I would like
>to skip one stop of the prepartion of the encryption, that
>takes about two hours (does in write /dev/random to
>/dev/hdaX?).

Neither of those configuration options are yet available in d-i. You
may want to consider submitting wishlist bugs. I would like that too,
especially #2, since sometimes I abort the installation and start
again, which means it spends more time doing it again when it really
doesn't need to.

- Jordi G. H.


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Re: Debugging a java programme

[Rafael Fontenelle]

2008/4/25, andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hello
>
> I tried to run a java-based programme on a Lenny machine. This is what
> happened:
>
> $ java jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar
> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
> jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar
>  at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar not
> found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./],
> parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}
>  at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
>  at gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
>  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
>  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
>  at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
> $
>
> Is this because I invoked the programme incorrectly or am I missing some
> libraries?
>
> I'd appreciate any assistance as I need this programme for my studies.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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Hi there.

I'm don't know much about running java in command-line, but I think the
problem is that you didn't call the classpath. Firstly, is CLASSPATH
environment variable set (Try echo $CLASSPATH)? Secondly, I think you should
run java with the "-classpath" switch. Not sure, but the command might look
like this:

java -classpath #CLASSPATH, 

Try it out let us know.

Cheers,

Rafael

Debugging a java programme

[andy]

Hello

I tried to run a java-based programme on a Lenny machine. This is what 
happened:


$ java jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar

  at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: jgraphpad-6.0.4.1-gpl.jar 
not found in gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader{urls=[file:./], 
parent=gnu.gcj.runtime.ExtensionClassLoader{urls=[], parent=null}}

  at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
  at gnu.gcj.runtime.SystemClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
  at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.90)
  at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run(libgcj.so.90)
$

Is this because I invoked the programme incorrectly or am I missing some 
libraries?


I'd appreciate any assistance as I need this programme for my studies.

Many thanks

Andy



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Re: Custom icon

[Mark Neidorff]

On Friday 25 April 2008 12:03 pm, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Friday 25 April 2008 17:31, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > (This should be very easy)  Debian Etch and KDE desktop.  I installed
> > virtualbox and want to add a custom icon for it.  I have the icon file
> > already.  So here are the questions:
> >
> > 1. What format does the icon have to be in?
>
> I don't believe it matters too much. Icons I've made myself, I save as
> .png. Others in my ~/Icon file are .xpm, .xbm (which is one I altered from
> a logo for xsynth).
>
> > 2.  I noticed that there are different locations for
> > icons/usr/share/icons and /usr/share/pixmaps to name 2 that I easily
> > found.  Where should I be putting this custom icon?
>
> Myself, for the ones I've created, I make an Icon dir in ~/, and it's easy
> enough to just point the desktop launcher to that Icon dir to use a
> specific icon.
>
> Nigel.
>

Perfect!  Exactly what I wanted to know.  Thanks.


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Problems understanding RAM usage in top

[David]

Hi list.

Is it normal for 'top' to show that most of your physical memory is
used when there aren't any processes running? (besides the usual init,
getty, klogd, sshd, etc).

I assume that this memory is being used for Linux caches - file
buffers etc to speed up disk access and so on. Is there a way to tell
how much memory the Linux kernel is using, and what for?

I'm busy tracking down OOM killer issues on a server and I'm wondering
if there is a memory leak somewhere (eg: lvm or another kernel
module). Nothing (besides the usuals) is running, but top is showing
900/1024 MB ram used, and 158/1024 MB swap used.

David.


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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Bob McGowan]

Mark Allums wrote:

Bob McGowan wrote:

Mark Allums wrote:

Bob McGowan wrote:

I have Maxtor IDE drives and Maxtor makes (or made, I got this some 
time ago) a DOS based utility to do low level formats.  Your disk 
vendor probably has something similar available.


The Maxtor utilities will prep a drive, for those who can't be 
bothered to use the native utilities for an OS, but I quite doubt 
that an IDE was truly low-level formatted by it.  The drive platters 
of modern drives are low-level formatted before they are even 
assembled into a working hard disk.  They contain "embedded servo" 


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I was not able (yet) to find the original download I did, only the exe 
file on a floppy.  When I find the related docs, I will post that.




I found the CD I burned with the utility and readme file last night.



Sorry, I was being a bit snarky, I guess.  Not really called for.  There 
are three kinds of formatting.  Low-level, fdisk, and OS-level.




And my apologies, as well.  I was not clear in my statement about my 
knowledge base.  I was referring to the issues of "low level formatting" 
and IDE devices (and their "embedded servos").


In any case, see below...

Low-level used to need to be done for some reasons, such as to adjust 
the sector interleave, or to switch the drive to a different physical 
orientation (required with stepper motor head positioning).  It is no 
longer required to do it more than once, and it is always done at the 
factory.


Fdisk, or partitioning, is not really formatting, but it is something 
you do in the process of prepping a disk, so it is lumped together with it.


OS-level, or high-level, is done to create meta structure, like inodes, 
or the FAT, etc.  It can be done at any time.


Many OSes will do a "verify" of the whole partition.  This is an attempt 
to read every sector.  It is not really part of formatting, and can be 
done at any time.  The goal is to find bad sectors, and mark them bad.


If there is any other kind of formatting, I am not aware of it.



I am not aware of any other kind of formatting, either.  So, some 
excerpts from the Readme.txt file that came with the "PowerMax" utility 
I downloaded in November of 2005.


Begin quoted text excerpts:

Subject:  Using Maxtor's Power Diagnostic (POWERMAX.EXE) Utilities
  (PowerMax v 4.XXX)

...

  6.The best test for a drive with intermittent problems is a 'low 


level' format routine.  !! Warning !! This test will erase all
your data, but the drive will be restored to a 'factory
re-certified' condition.  Be sure to make a full backup of all
critical data before proceeding.  If your computer has more than
one hard drive, be sure to choose the correct drive. If a drive
fails this test, it usually indicates a drive failure.

...

Overview of tests using POWERMAX.EXE:

PowerMax is a keyboard menu driven diagnostic. Choices and options are 
displayed at the bottom of the screen. Further instructions are 
displayed at the bottom of the popup window display when a test completes.


Available Tests:

1.  Installation Confirmation
2.  Basic Quick (90 Second) Test
3.  Advanced Test (Full Scan Test)
4.  Burn In Test
5.  Low Level Format (Quick)
6.  Low Level format  (Full)
...

Low Level Format, Quick or Full Test:

!! Warning!!  These tests are data destructive, all user information on 
the hard drive is removed. Maxtor recommends you backup all critical 
data and remove other hard drives before performing this test. Perform 
this test only if all other tests have passed (or by direction of Maxtor 
Technical Support) but the hard drive is still not performing correctly. 
 The quick option is most useful for removing a computer virus, or you 
are rebuilding the information on your hard drive,  and you need a quick 
erase of the operating system without taking the time involved to 
perform a full LLF. The quick LLF overwrites a pattern of zeros to the 
first 300 megabytes, and the last 100 megabytes of the drive. The full 
LLF overwrites a pattern of zeros to all sectors on the drive.  High 
capacity hard drives take longer to complete. Allow sufficient time to 
complete the test.  Several hours to overnight may be needed.  A full 
Low Level Format remains the most effective test for a drive with 
intermittent problems.


End quotation section.

I was quoting, from memory, this information.  I do admit to 
generalizing it to include other makes of drives, which it appears was 
an invalid generalization, based on your information.


--
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Symantec, Inc.


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Questions about d-i disk encryption

[Hans Martin]

Hi,

two questions related to the current d-i (lenny) netinst CD:

1. I like to have half of my disk crypted (with /, /usr/, /home,
   all in one crypted partition), and the other half without
   encryption e.g. as /usr/local). What is the easiest way to
   achieve this?

2. Because I'm experimenting with the installation, I would like
   to skip one stop of the prepartion of the encryption, that
   takes about two hours (does in write /dev/random to
   /dev/hdaX?). How can I skip this step easily? (I know, that
   this would degrade security, but for this test I don't care.)

Thanks in advance!

Hans
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Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

[Chris]

On Friday 25 April 2008, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> Chris wrote:
> > that seems like a nice approach.  Why do I need to touch the SENTINEL
> > file?
> >
> > C
>
> Chris,
>
> in the example, you touch the file ONCE to make it exist.  Then when you
> mount music, it will "mask" the file.  That file will only show up when
> your smb mount for music is not mounted.  Try it.
>
> When you make a file in a dir /tmp/test then mount something in
> /tmp/test the contents of /tmp/test will only show the mounted files.
> When you unmount /tmp/test the original file will still be there.
>
> I think this is a rather elegant approach independent of networking.  If
> networking is down, you will see the "touched" file.  If networking is
> up and smb/CIF is working, you will not see it.  The "touched" file will
> not be overwritten by your file moving/deletion/backups/restores.
>
> Does that help?

Yes!  Thank you very much!

>
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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Bob McGowan]

Jochen Schulz wrote:

paragasu:

Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand because
my bios only
support 2GB.


Linux doesn't care what the BIOS thinks about the hard drive. Have you
tried to use larger disks? Chances are that it just works[tm].

J.


If you do go this way, be sure the boot partition (or, if /boot is part 
of /, then *all* of the root partition), is contained withing the first 
2GB space, so the BIOS can do its thing to boot the system.


Once that's done, as noted by Jochen (and others), Linux will boot and 
will see the full disk.


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Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

[Bob McGowan]

Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:18:48PM +0200, Chris wrote:

On Thursday 24 April 2008, Bob McGowan wrote:

Chris wrote:

Hello,

I want to run a script to rsync local files to a NAS mounted to
/mnt/music. Sometimes the NAS is not running, and I want to prevent the
script from writing to the mount directory:  is there any easy way to
prevent this?

Thanks,

C

if [ -f /mnt/music/somefile ]
then
   # run your script here.
fi

hey, cool.  I wouldn't have expected anything like this!


another alternative, since it's likely that the contents of /mnt/music could
change (I know mine does), why not do this.

umount /mnt/music
touch /mnt/music/SENTINEL

then do 


if [ -f /mnt/music/SENTINEL ]
then
echo "Music share is not mounted!"
exit 1;
fi

#run your script here

the only way SENTINEL will appear is when the NAS is *not*
mounted. And this protects whatever you are using as your SENTINEL
from inadvertent deletion.

A


That's an excellent suggestion.  Way cool!

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Re: Custom icon

[Nigel Henry]

On Friday 25 April 2008 17:31, Mark Neidorff wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> (This should be very easy)  Debian Etch and KDE desktop.  I installed
> virtualbox and want to add a custom icon for it.  I have the icon file
> already.  So here are the questions:
>
> 1. What format does the icon have to be in?

I don't believe it matters too much. Icons I've made myself, I save as .png. 
Others in my ~/Icon file are .xpm, .xbm (which is one I altered from a logo 
for xsynth). 
> 2.  I noticed that there are different locations for
> icons/usr/share/icons and /usr/share/pixmaps to name 2 that I easily
> found.  Where should I be putting this custom icon?

Myself, for the ones I've created, I make an Icon dir in ~/, and it's easy 
enough to just point the desktop launcher to that Icon dir to use a specific 
icon.

Nigel.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark


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Re: Installing flashplayer

[Chris Roberts]

On Friday 25 Apr 2008, simon rowe wrote:
> I have recently installed Debian for the first time
> and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
> am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
> below is the output that I am getting:
>
> simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
> referred to by another package.
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been
> obsoleted, or
> is only available from another source
> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation
> candidate
>

Run "apt-cache showpkg flashplugin-nonfree" to determine what packages are 
available in your current repositories.  Also which version of Debian you are 
using?

Chris.


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Re: Strange window problem

[Frank McCormick]

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> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:30:59AM -0400, Frank wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > For the past week or so I noticed an empty window which pops up
> > seemingly at random on my screen. It looks like a terminalbut with
> > no cursor inside. The only way it can be closed is by using xkill. I
> > use IceWm and unless I kill it before logging out I can't log out!
> 
> What do you see on 'ps fax'?


   Soon as the window pops up again, I'll post the output! These
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Re: Installing flashplayer

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Friday 25 April 2008 18:45:05 Richard Möhn wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 04:16:27PM +0100, simon rowe wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have recently installed Debian for the first time
> > and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
> > am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
> > below is the output that I am getting:
> >
> > simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree... Done
> > Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
> > referred to by another package.
> >
> > Many Thanks,
> > Simon Rowe.
>
> Hello Simon,
>
> you could install the tarball from the Adobe page manually or you can
> install the flashplugin from the Debian backports I think.
>
> Greetings,
> Richard


Wait, First are you amd64?
Thierry

Re: Installing flashplayer

[Richard Möhn]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 04:16:27PM +0100, simon rowe wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have recently installed Debian for the first time
> and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
> am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
> below is the output that I am getting:
> 
> simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree... Done
> Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
> referred to by another package.
> This may mean that the package is missing, has been
> obsoleted, or
> is only available from another source
> E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation
> candidate
> 
> I was wondering if you would be able to shed some
> light on how to install this.
> 
> Many Thanks,
> Simon Rowe.
> 
>
Hello Simon,

you could install the tarball from the Adobe page manually or you can
install the flashplugin from the Debian backports I think.

Greetings,
Richard


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Installing flashplayer

[simon rowe]

Hello,

I have recently installed Debian for the first time
and am just trying to get to grips with using Linux. I
am having trouble installing flash player with apt,
below is the output that I am getting:

simondebian:/sys# apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is
referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been
obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
E: Package flashplugin-nonfree has no installation
candidate

I was wondering if you would be able to shed some
light on how to install this.

Many Thanks,
Simon Rowe.


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Custom icon

[Mark Neidorff]

Hi all,

(This should be very easy)  Debian Etch and KDE desktop.  I installed 
virtualbox and want to add a custom icon for it.  I have the icon file 
already.  So here are the questions:

1. What format does the icon have to be in?
2.  I noticed that there are different locations for icons/usr/share/icons 
and /usr/share/pixmaps to name 2 that I easily found.  Where should I be 
putting this custom icon?

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Re: OT (slightly) swap limits

[Patrick Ouellette]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 09:42:03AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> 
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 05:16:56PM -0400, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
> > Patrick Ouellette wrote:
> >>
> >> I've run machines with 1Gig or more RAM with NO SWAP.  I've also run
> >> machines with 4Gig of RAM and 16Gig of swap (BIG datasets).
> >>
> >> Pat
> >>   
> > Well,
> >
> > I tend to agree with you, however, I am being sucked dry of my Linux  
> > knowledge (the purpose of the interview, find the point of breakdown to  
> > determine the extent of the knowledge/skill).  And much to my surprise I  
> > just found this:
> >
> > "At a bare minimum, you need an appropriately-sized root partition, and
> > a swap partition equal to twice the amount of RAM"
> >
> > page 59, from a questionable source:  Installation Guide of RHEL5.
> 
> interestingly RHEL4 at 2.6 kernel distro still also made swap files of
> 2G max and used multiples of that.  Since 2.6 this hasn't been
> necessary.
> 
> Just because RHEL does it that way doesn't make it right
> 
> Patrick I believe has the better approach - what are you going to use
> the box for and what sort of response do you want, although I have to
> diss agree on the need for large swap space for a database, DB are
> engineered to use all the space that are told to get hold of and have
> their own caching.  Why interfere with it by pretending you have more
> memory than you do.  You could end up hitting swap because the DB cache
> has grown.
> 

I just want to clarify.  I said there were big datasets, not necessarily
a database application.  

Pat

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Re: Strange window problem

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:30:59AM -0400, Frank wrote:
> 
> 
> For the past week or so I noticed an empty window which pops up seemingly
> at random on my screen. It looks like a terminalbut with no cursor
> inside. The only way it can be closed is by using xkill. I use IceWm and
> unless I kill it before logging out I can't log out!
> 
> I'd appreciate any tips on tracking this thing down.

What do you see on 'ps fax'?

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Almost Working (was:Re: Help using my new scanner)

[Marc Shapiro]

Rich Healey wrote:

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Marc Shapiro wrote:
  

Thierry Chatelet wrote:


On Thursday 24 April 2008 07:36:01 you wrote:
 
  

Thierry Chatelet wrote:
   


Are you in scanner group?
  
  

Yes, my original post says that I changed the device node's group to
scanner and added myself to the group, then logged out and back in.



Why did you change the device node's group? I have never done that to
get a scanner recognized.
Thierry
PS: respond to the list, not to me in private. It helps other people
on the list.
Thanks
  
  

The nodes owner was root:root.  I want to be able to use the scanner as
a normal user.



- From memory debian uses setuid wrapper binaries to get around this in
the userland anyway, thereby letting users use devices, but not interact
directly with them.

It's all about security ;)
  
After trying a number of other things, unsuccessfully, including 
compiling save from sources so that I could compile a different backend 
from source which is supposed to work with my scanner.  I finally got 
the scanner to function if I run xscanimage AS ROOT!  I don't want to 
have to do that.  I then uninstalled all of that mess and reinstalled 
sane from the Debian packages.  I then remembered about /dev/.static/dev 
and added the scanner node there.  I think that was when things started 
to work.  Apparently adding the node in /dev did not work, but 
/dev/.static/dev did.  I then changed its ownership to root:scanner and 
its permissions to 664, but I still can't run as myself, only as root.  
Do I need to rebout for those changes to take effect?  Is there some way 
to set it up with the ownerchip and permissions that I want directly 
from mknod?  Is there a better way to get this working properly?


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Grub2

[Bipin Babu]

Hi All,

Anyone tried Grub2?  I run lenny and Grub2 is only a 'dummy package' in the
repository. I have the standard apt sources. Any howto to replace the
existing grub with grub2 would be great.

BTW what is GFX-Grub? Is it a patch for GRUB or GRUB2? I don't see it in the
lenny repos. Any idea?

TIA.
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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Jochen Schulz]

paragasu:
> 
> Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand because
> my bios only
> support 2GB.

Linux doesn't care what the BIOS thinks about the hard drive. Have you
tried to use larger disks? Chances are that it just works[tm].

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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[Mark Allums]

paragasu wrote:



So, I think that the command 'cat /dev/null > /dev/hdd' did nothing
to your system. Maybe something else?


i also don't know, it happen after i run that command. There is a lot of 
error message displayed
in the screen. But i am not surprise if it is because of something else 
- coincident thing happen right?.


Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand 
because my bios only
support 2GB. That hard disk is quite rare nowadays. And if it dies, now 
might be the right

time for the hard disk but not the right time for me though. =p

but i think, Bob McGowan give the best explanation for me. I am 
satisfied with his reasoning,

enough for me not to mess up with any simple and innocent look.

 >The issue is not with cat or /dev/null, it's what the shell does when 
it sees '>':  open the file, >for writing, start at offset 0 (or, 
truncate the file).


 >But, the system has opened the destination "file", in this case a 
device, and done >whatever the device driver is coded to do for this case.


Thanks everyone..



Most manufacturers of hard disks allow for newer models to be used in 
even fairly old machines.  They want to sell as many drives as possible, 
right?  Visit the web sites of the various drive makers, and see whether 
perhaps someone's lowest end model can be used with your computer. 
Sometimes, there is a jumper on the drive that you can set to limit the 
drive geometry (fake it) to something an old BIOS can understand.  It 
may be that your computer can use a 250 GB drive.  It will just see only 
the first 2 GB of the drive.  The rest of the capacity will be unused, 
but it will work.


Also, look around you.  You may already have a drive you can use this way.

And, there might even exist a BIOS mod for your motherboard.  I found 
one for an old machine that was limited to 32 GB, and after flashing the 
hacked BIOS, was able to use the full capacity of a 120 GB drive.



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Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

[Eric Cooper]

On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 04:07:51PM +0800, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> You are asking generically Packages without specifying a mirror. Are
> they granted to be identically replicated among all mirrors?  Of course
> they *probably* are due to how mirroring works, but is it *granted* that
> there are no differences among mirrors?
> 
> Would such difference inhibit proper installation due to the apt-secure
> stuff?

The Release file contains strong checksums of the Packages files, and
it is signed with the Debian Archive key.  Both of these are checked
when apt does updates and installs.  So as long as there are no keys
from rogue repositories in apt's keyring, it should be fine.

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Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set

[Damon L. Chesser]

Berni Elbourn wrote:






A good system in my world has the absolute minimum of files to do the 
job properly. For a start there is by definition going to be less 
potential for security holes...anyhooo try this:


# tasksel

Berni



Berni,

I like.  That goes back a ways.  That should do it, I think?

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Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

[Damon L. Chesser]

Chris wrote:



that seems like a nice approach.  Why do I need to touch the SENTINEL file?

C

  

Chris,

in the example, you touch the file ONCE to make it exist.  Then when you 
mount music, it will "mask" the file.  That file will only show up when 
your smb mount for music is not mounted.  Try it.


When you make a file in a dir /tmp/test then mount something in 
/tmp/test the contents of /tmp/test will only show the mounted files.  
When you unmount /tmp/test the original file will still be there.


I think this is a rather elegant approach independent of networking.  If 
networking is down, you will see the "touched" file.  If networking is 
up and smb/CIF is working, you will not see it.  The "touched" file will 
not be overwritten by your file moving/deletion/backups/restores.


Does that help?

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Re: OT (slightly) swap limits

[Damon L. Chesser]

Damon L. Chesser wrote:
Being in an interview loop looking for employment, I find I am asked 
questions I never considered, for example:  How much is enough swap?


Simple, right?  Try answering it.  Used to be the limit was 2G 
files/partitions with up to 8 partitions total.  This does not apply 
anymore:  I have seen customers with 32G of swap.


Not wanting to talk about what they did with 32G of swap, but I am 
trying to find documentation for the limits and the rules now.


For example: 2xRAM (or 1.5) is not considered valid any more is it?  
If you have 64G of ram, you need 128G of swap.  But in truth I don't 
know and I am not finding much on google (lots covering the 2G OLD 
limit).  What I want is documentation so I am not working off of 
opinion (read religious belief).


Got any links you want to share?


Well,

it is nice to know I was not nuts in my answer to their question.  I 
thought perhaps technology moved ahead of me or I forgot something and I 
did not get the memo.  But to be more clear, I am talking about 
servers.  Anybody do anything different with servers or do we still 
stick with the 1.5/2X rule or perhaps the RH S=M+1 for >2G rule (with 
the nice stipulation that perhaps for machines with really large amounts 
of RAM you MIGHT use less)?


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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

[paragasu]

>
> So, I think that the command 'cat /dev/null > /dev/hdd' did nothing to
> your system. Maybe something else?
>

i also don't know, it happen after i run that command. There is a lot of
error message displayed
in the screen. But i am not surprise if it is because of something else -
coincident thing happen right?.

Or simply because the hard disk it quite old. I buy it second hand because
my bios only
support 2GB. That hard disk is quite rare nowadays. And if it dies, now
might be the right
time for the hard disk but not the right time for me though. =p

but i think, Bob McGowan give the best explanation for me. I am satisfied
with his reasoning,
enough for me not to mess up with any simple and innocent look.

>The issue is not with cat or /dev/null, it's what the shell does when it
sees '>':  open the file, >for writing, start at offset 0 (or, truncate the
file).

>But, the system has opened the destination "file", in this case a device,
and done >whatever the device driver is coded to do for this case.

Thanks everyone..

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Rafael Fontenelle wrote:


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by him. But this doesn't explain why he can't unsubscribe - if he 
tried correctly.


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Re: 2 ISPs ( 2 gateways) and a Debian Box

[Chris Bannister]

On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:26:22PM +0800, John Marvin L. Magsino wrote:
> i have 2 ISPs ( 2 routers which act as a gateway)  and a debian Box running
> Apache + PHP + Mysql. what i wanted to do is to make the debian box port
> forwarded to both the ISPs.

You mean:?


  ++/
  ||   |
+-+ Provider 1 +---
__  | || /
___/  \_ +--+---+ ++|
  _/\__  | if1  |  /
 / \ |  |  |
| Local network -+ Linux router |  | Internet
 \_   __/|  |  |
   \__ __/   | if2  |  \
  \___/  +--+---+ ++|
| || \
+-+ Provider 2 +---
  ||   |
  ++\




http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html

Covers this setup.

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Re: I need further understanding of wine or bash

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 08:43:53PM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 02:05:23PM -0400, Dylan Garrett wrote:
> 
> > One issue that I see that you should fix (though it won't affect your
> > results):
> > #bin/bash!
> > Should be:
> > #!/usr/bin/bash
> 
> /usr/bin/bash? where? /bin/bash
> 
> > Or better yet:
> > #!/usr/bin/env bash
> 
> Or simpler:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> 

You've gotta be careful with #!/bin/sh it may not be linked to bash,
i.e:

ls -al /bin/sh
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 2008-01-22 04:04 /bin/sh -> /bin/dash

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Hi,

I have two questions.

First, there are forged junk emails put return_path to me. I from time
to time receive undelivered emails (i.e., no such user). How can I
reject those undelivered emails?

Second, I found there are spammers using dial-up connection (slow but
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Re: search for Tree genration script for openoffice .

[Jochen Schulz]

Jabka Atu:
> 
> I'm searching for tree generration script (or extention).
> for example if input the next text :
-- snip
> and i will get a OCBT as an image/Chart whatever.

Graphviz can do this (but with a different syntax). It can output
various file formats, but I don't think it can rceate OOo files.

See  for examples and documentation. You can
install it using apt.

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Re: when Debian SID have installed, never could to go to testing?

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> Hello!
> 
> I have installed Debian SID on my old laptop.
> 
> I am asking a self whether I can to go from this system to the
> testing? 

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list and wait a month.  Your formerly-Sid
system will now be pretty close to Testing.

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search for Tree genration script for openoffice .

[Jabka Atu]

Hello,..

I'm searching for tree generration script (or extention).
for example if input the next text :


root

left node


sub left node


sub Right node.



Right node.



and i will get a OCBT as an image/Chart whatever.

Redars ,...
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Re: Burning Audio CD

[Paul Cartwright]

On Thu April 24 2008, Daniel Ngu wrote:
> >> Your media might not be rated for speeds of 1, which is quite slow.
> >> What you might try is to use a speed factor of 1/2 your CD burner's
> >> rated top speed (if it's like 24, use -speed 12). See if that helps.
> >>
> >>>  Daniel
> >
> > Thanks David, will give that a try.
> >
> > Daniel
>
> Thanks David, I have tried speed factor of 1/2 my writer and it was a
> success.
>
> Regards,

I use -speed 2 when I run my scripts for makedvd. The man makedvd didn't 
really explain what the numbers meant, but I also had a problem with 1 as 
default. My burner is also a X24, I might try 12, that will be LOTS faster!

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when Debian SID have installed, never could to go to testing?

[Paul Csanyi]

Hello!

I have installed Debian SID on my old laptop.

I am asking a self whether I can to go from this system to the
testing? 

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Re: new computer maybe wrong dvd burner

[Ron Johnson]

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On 04/25/08 03:11, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I got a dvd burner in a refurbished more modern machine and may have got
> the wrong brand and model.  Later I'll get some help changing booting
> order in cmos to pick this drive up.  For now I don't know what device
> to try and mount this drive with:
> Script started on Fri 25 Apr 2008 04:03:35 AM EDT
> ns:~# wodim -scanbus
> scsibus1000:
> 1000,0,0 10) *
> 1000,1,0 11) *
> 1000,2,0 12) 'LITE-ON ' 'DVDRW LDW-451S  ' 'GSB4' Removable CD-ROM
> 1000,3,0 13) *
> 1000,4,0 14) *
> 1000,5,0 15) *
> 1000,6,0 16) *
> 1000,7,0 17) *
> ns:~# exit
> exit

See if /dev/scd? exists.

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Where can I find php_dbase.so suitable for debian etch?

[Jaisen N.D.]

Hi,
I have a problem here. I installed php, apache, mapserver and mapscript
on my Debian etch box. I downloaded php-mapscript demo gmap-ms46.zip from
http://dl.maptools.org/dl/ then made some required tweakenings, installed
and tried to run it. It should look like as it seen here:-

http://www.mapsherpa.com/gmap/gmap75.phtml

But I got an error message:-

Warning: dl() [function.dl]: Unable to load dynamic library
'/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/php_dbase.so' - /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6:
version `GLIBC_2.4' not found (required by
/usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/php_dbase.so) in
/var/www/gmap-ms46/htdocs/gmap75.phtml on line 58

I searched in Contents-i386.gz file for php_dbase.so but its name is not
there, as it is not a part of Debian etch.

Then I gone for some rpm files which may contain this particular file,
as

http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=dbase.so

and I got php5-dbase-5.2.0-14.i586.rpm and extracted the dbase.so form it
renamed and copied to /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/ . Still the same error
message.. I dont know how to resolve it. Any one have any solution, please
contact me back.

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Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set

[Mumia W..]

On 04/24/2008 07:29 PM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

Mumia W.. wrote the following on 04/24/2008 12:06 PM:

On 04/24/2008 11:40 AM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

[...]
I don't know if I have a system that qualifies as a "good" system 
right now! :-(





What do you mean when you say they don't have a "full" set of packages?


Things don't act the same on every system


How do you know that packages are missing?
eg. in file manager I double-click a zip file and nothing happens. There 
is no archive manager now. But there was!


Iceweasel just shuts down on one machine, not another.



That problem suggests more than just some packages are missing.


Wine doesn't open on one system anymore.



Again, something's wrong with that.


And other strange things like that.


Are these machines accessible through the Internet?



How do you know which packages are missing?
I don't know which packages are missing! I just know that _some_ of them 
are. And there's the rub!





I can usually figure out how to fix the problems that come up, but that 
doesn't get all of them fixed.


I am tired of running around with a fly-swatter. I need a *big* can of 
~raid~!!


TIA!
Dennis





Do some cursory checks to confirm that you aren't plagued by HD errors, 
RAM memory errors or rootkits. After that, I see two ways for you going 
forward:


1) Fix one machine to function correctly, then duplicate the selections 
using the method described by "s. keeling."


2) Fix one machine to function correctly, then use the df/netcat method 
to duplicate the hard disk partition. This assumes that the OS is 
install onto one partition and that the hardware is the same between the 
two machines.


When using method 1, remember to manually investigate and possibly 
duplicate the configurations stored in /etc. When using method 2, 
remember to make the appropriate configuration changes in /etc, e.g. 
hostname, IP address (if static), passwords, etc. ;-)



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MySQL - Tuning for higher performance

[cypherstrong]

Hi

I'm looking for a wait to fine tune mysql5 on debian etch

Is they a wait to do a calcul to adapt perferly mysql conf to computer
capacity ?

Thanks



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Re: prevent writing to unmounted directory

[Chris Roberts]

On Thursday 24 Apr 2008, Chris wrote:
> mounted as smbfs in fstab

I thought smbfs was unmaintained and that cifs was the better option - anyone?

Chris.


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new computer maybe wrong dvd burner

[Jude DaShiell]

I got a dvd burner in a refurbished more modern machine and may have got 
the wrong brand and model.  Later I'll get some help changing booting 
order in cmos to pick this drive up.  For now I don't know what device to 
try and mount this drive with:

Script started on Fri 25 Apr 2008 04:03:35 AM EDT
ns:~# wodim -scanbus
scsibus1000:
1000,0,0 10) *
1000,1,0 11) *
1000,2,0 12) 'LITE-ON ' 'DVDRW LDW-451S  ' 'GSB4' Removable CD-ROM
1000,3,0 13) *
1000,4,0 14) *
1000,5,0 15) *
1000,6,0 16) *
1000,7,0 17) *
ns:~# exit
exit

Script done on Fri 25 Apr 2008 04:03:57 AM EDT



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Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 03:35:57PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> I have had an accident on my Debian-Archiv-Server and  unfortunatly  the
> files "Packages.gz",  "Packages.bz2",  "Sources.gz",  "Sources.bz2"  and
> "Release" from the directories

Neat project. I'm jumping into it with a question which unfortunately is
not solving your problem.

You are asking generically Packages without specifying a mirror. Are
they granted to be identically replicated among all mirrors?  Of course
they *probably* are due to how mirroring works, but is it *granted* that
there are no differences among mirrors?

Would such difference inhibit proper installation due to the apt-secure
stuff?

Cheers.

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how can i use undefined symbol

[서청원]

I got this message during compiling module.

 

Building modules, stage 2.

MODPOST

WARNING: "tasklist_lock" [ /Red/src/Red.ko] undefined!

make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686'

 

Actually, Red.ko had made but can not load the module due to the unknown symbol 
(tasklist_lock).

 

What’s the problem?? I can see the symbol is exported in the 
linux-header-2.6.18-4-686/include/linux/sched.h.

I couldn’t understand why it is shown “undefined”??

 

Also during searching about this problem, I read this - for linux kernel 
2.6.18, the symbol does NOT export any more …. Is this right???

If it is, is there any way to use the symbol ‘tasklist_lock’?

 

There is my only guess, it is needed the license to use this symbol.

 

 

 

Thanks a lot for any suggestion.

 

Re: How to refresh Debian to install software set

[Berni Elbourn]

Mumia W.. wrote:

On 04/24/2008 11:40 AM, Dennis G. Wicks wrote:

[...]
I don't know if I have a system that qualifies as a "good" system 
right now! :-(





What do you mean when you say they don't have a "full" set of packages?

How do you know that packages are missing?

How do you know which packages are missing?




A good system in my world has the absolute minimum of files to do the 
job properly. For a start there is by definition going to be less 
potential for security holes...anyhooo try this:


# tasksel

Berni


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Re: [sane-devel] Calling a script after USB scanner is plugged

[Johannes Meixner]

Hello,

On Apr 24 22:45 Julien BLACHE wrote (shortened):
> udev is an incredible piece of crap, but the good news is that this
> piece of crap is mostly stable those days. Which is a big step forward
> already.
> 
> (and I'll refrain from saying anything at all about the genius who
> invented udev. I'll just mention that he's also the author of "stable
> API is a nonsense".)

There he makes it very clear that
"The kernel to userspace interface is the one that
 application programs use, the syscall interface.
 That interface is _very_ stable over time,
 and will not break."

But this is in "stark contrast" to the interface of udev
(i.e. the syntax and keywords how to specify udev rules)
for applications (e.g. SANE) which provide udev rules
and for a normal user udev is completely unusable.

It seems one must talk to udev in terms of internal kernel
values (e.g. internal kernel event names and so on) instead of
a more abstract and therefore more stable higher level language.

Actually I am not interested in any internal kernel stuff.
I just like to tell udev:
"When a USB device with ID 0x1a2b:0x3c4d appears
 and when it is not already configured,
 then run my setup program and if my setup program
 exits successfully, remember the device and that
 it is already configured (even after a reboot)."

Of course it cannot work when only "my setup program"
remembers which devices it has already configured
because the user might have used another setup program
before (or did the setup manually). Therefore the
information whether or not it is already configured
must be kept at a unique central place.

Of course this requires persistent storage to keep
the device state even after a reboot and I just need
this for a well working plug-and-play user experience
but I guess the kernel people do not want to do this
for whatever internal kernel reason but again I am
actually not interested in any internal kernel stuff.
Here I am an end-user and I just want to have it work.


Kind Regards
Johannes Meixner
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