Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Rich Healey
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NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:20:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
>> The problem, if one exists, is what font the terminal is using
>>   sudo apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode xfonts-efont-unicode-ib
> 
> What about the linux console?
> 
> I suspect that the answer will be that the linux console is right now
> not able to display at the same time eastern european, asiatic, arabic
> and hebrev characters (perhaps unless one uses someting experimental
> like uterm whose source seems to not be available at its homepage
> http://members.aceweb.com/hanpaul/ ). 
> 
> So the next question is:
> 
> What is the combination of "decent" X-terminal and font (and screen
> resolution for X, and refresh rate) such that, when run in a window
> manager which is able to use full screen windoes (like ratpoison, icewm,
> evilwm and many others) looks the *same* as a linux ("standard" or
> framebuffer) console?
> 
> I was never be able to find nor a decent terminal nor a decent (i.e.
> console like) font.
> 
> (a terminal which uses gnome or kde libraries is not decent for my
> pourposes. gtk only or qt only might or might not be. xlib only surely
> is)
> 

Eterm sounds like what you're looking for... or xterm?
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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread CaT
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 09:08:57AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:20:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> > > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> 
> I am running mutt with mlterm (multilingual terminal) and it doesn't 
> show correctly. I experimented with xfce4-terminal and fonts and I can 
> tell it's not the font (I use Terminus). Does anybody know how to make 
> mlterm display everything right?

Tru rxvt-unicode (there are 3 flavours in debian and I compile my own
so I can't tell you which one to try). It's what I use (infact for me
it's mutt in screen over ssh in urxvt :) and the above looks like what
may well be Hebrew.

The other thing you may wish to make sure of is that you are using a
UTF-8 locale. For me that's en_AU.UTF-8. If you don't you'll probably
see a lot of question marks (I know I do).

cat.


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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:20:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> The problem, if one exists, is what font the terminal is using
>   sudo apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode xfonts-efont-unicode-ib

What about the linux console?

I suspect that the answer will be that the linux console is right now
not able to display at the same time eastern european, asiatic, arabic
and hebrev characters (perhaps unless one uses someting experimental
like uterm whose source seems to not be available at its homepage
http://members.aceweb.com/hanpaul/ ). 

So the next question is:

What is the combination of "decent" X-terminal and font (and screen
resolution for X, and refresh rate) such that, when run in a window
manager which is able to use full screen windoes (like ratpoison, icewm,
evilwm and many others) looks the *same* as a linux ("standard" or
framebuffer) console?

I was never be able to find nor a decent terminal nor a decent (i.e.
console like) font.

(a terminal which uses gnome or kde libraries is not decent for my
pourposes. gtk only or qt only might or might not be. xlib only surely
is)

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Re: Re: Re: Barry? Also berry_charge

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>/home/carlf# find /lib/modules/ -iname \*berry\*
>/lib/modules/2.6.22-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
>/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
>/home/carlf# modprobe 
>/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
>FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.22_3_k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko 
>not found.
>So, is refusing to admit that a file which is clearly present in fact exists
>a bug in the kernel worth reporting?

no, it might perhaps be a bug if such a message is given by

insmod /lib/modules/2.6.22-3-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko

but modprobe is a different thing (which uses only module names and not
paths, which are resolved using modules.dep, as the man page explains)


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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:20:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew.
> 
> Mutt works fine.  The problem, if one exists, is what font the
> terminal is using in which mutt is running.  The font must support
> UTF-8 or it can't display those characters properly.  If someone is
> using a classic 9x15 ASCII font for example it will be unable to
> display the extended characters.  The "gibberish" text will only
> display as a row of dashes and spaces.
>   
> > א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> 
> I see all of the characters in mutt and in emacs editing this reply
> but only because I am running inside of an xterm that is using a
> Unicode font.  When I send this with mutt it will attempt to send

I am running mutt with mlterm (multilingual terminal) and it doesn't 
show correctly. I experimented with xfce4-terminal and fonts and I can 
tell it's not the font (I use Terminus). Does anybody know how to make 
mlterm display everything right?

Regards,
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Re: Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: Paul Cartwright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>invoke-rc.d: initscript exim4, action "start" failed.

   Linkname: invoke-rc.d: initscript exim4, action "start" failed - Google 
Search
URL:
http://www.google.com/search?q=invoke-rc.d%3A+initscript+exim4%2C+action+%22start%22+failed&num=100

seems to find relevant information from debian bug tracking system


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Re: apt-get wants to uninstatll grub

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom Brown wrote:
> I did an 'apt-get update/upgrade' from sarge to etch. Everything went
> fine.

Did you 'apt-get upgrade'?  Or did you 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?  That
is a very important distinction.  If you only did an 'upgrade' then
you are not done yet.

> Then I wanted to upgrade my kernel. This command:
> 
> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4-686
> 
> caused apt-get to want to uninstall grub and then install lilo. Why is
> that happening?

Seems like an 'upgrade' versus 'dist-upgrade' issue to me.

You might want to install apt-show-versions and looking at the output
of it.

  sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions

  apt-show-versions | pager

It should have interesting information.

Bob


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Re: how to disable the touchpad when pluging usb mouse?

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Micha wrote:
> Is it possible, and if so how to automatically disable the touchpad when
> plugging in a usb mouse to the laptop?

I don't know udev details but a udev script triggered when the mouse
is plugged in seems reasonable to me.  I am sure the synclient would
be useful in that script.

  apt-cache show xserver-xorg-input-synaptics

  man synclient

  synclient TouchpadOff=1
  synclient TouchpadOff=0

I find the syndaemon an indispensable tool on my laptop.  It isn't
what you are asking about but seems related.  Might be useful to know
about anyway.

  syndaemon -i 1 -K -d

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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Proulx
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew.

Mutt works fine.  The problem, if one exists, is what font the
terminal is using in which mutt is running.  The font must support
UTF-8 or it can't display those characters properly.  If someone is
using a classic 9x15 ASCII font for example it will be unable to
display the extended characters.  The "gibberish" text will only
display as a row of dashes and spaces.
  
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

I see all of the characters in mutt and in emacs editing this reply
but only because I am running inside of an xterm that is using a
Unicode font.  When I send this with mutt it will attempt to send
using us-ascii and failing that it will attempt to send using
iso-8859-1 and if that fails it will send it in UTF-8.  That is the
default encoding order because it reflects the widest support
available.  It is possible to change the ordering in mutt using the
send_charset variable such as in this following.  (But I usually leave
it the default value since that seems to work okay too.)

  # Default: "us-ascii:iso-8859-1:utf-8"
  set send_charset="us-ascii:utf-8"

In order to try out UTF-8 in a temporary way try this following set of
commands.  First install some Unicode fonts.

  sudo apt-get install xfonts-efont-unicode xfonts-efont-unicode-ib

That will get some basic Unicode fonts onto the machine.  Then look at
the docs that have been installed.  The README.Debian file has some
very good information.

  pager /usr/share/doc/xfonts-efont-unicode/README.Debian
Basically: -efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1

Then to try it temporarily (use an appropriate UTF-8 LANG, I am using
en_US.UTF-8 but that is just for the example, and this illustrates my
Unix mind-set that the sort order should be standard order and not
dictionary order by setting LC_COLLATE too):

  LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_COLLATE=C xterm -fn 
-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1

That should bring up an xterm with Unicode support and a Unicode
font.  Running mutt or emacs or so forth in such a terminal should be
enabled for full UTF-8 characters.

The xlsfonts command can be used to list out fonts that match
patterns.  Something like the following is interesting.  (And leads me
to wonder why there are no 18 or 20 point fonts in the efont package?)

  xlsfonts -fn '-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1'

For better or for worse I settled on using the following in my
personal ~/.Xresources file to configure XTerm.  It is all very much
personal taste.  These work well for me but I know that everyone has
their own preferences.  YMMV and all of that.

  XTerm*font:-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal--16-160-75-75-c-80-iso10646-1
  XTerm*Font2:-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
  XTerm*Font3:-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
  XTerm*Font4:-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
  XTerm*Font5:-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--18-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
  XTerm*Font6:-efont-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-24-*-*-*-*-*-iso10646-1
  XTerm*fontMenu*fontdefault*Label:Default 16
  XTerm*fontMenu*font1*Label:Unreadable 2
  XTerm*fontMenu*font2*Label:Tiny 12
  XTerm*fontMenu*font3*Label:Small 14
  XTerm*fontMenu*font4*Label:Medium 16
  XTerm*fontMenu*font5*Label:Large 18
  XTerm*fontMenu*font6*Label:Huge 24

I am sure that the GNOME and KDE folks have similar settings available
to them.  I am using FVWM and XTerm.

Also I have installed a *LOT* of other fonts.  They are a very large
disk hog.  But I like to be able to see text as intended to be
displayed.  Also it is nice to see WikiPedia pages with all of the
correct symbols and without all of the missing font boxes.  I am still
missing a few but most of them are visible to me. :-)

  apt-cache search ttf- | grep ^ttf-

Bob


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Re: Re: Barry? Also berry_charge

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 02:12:20PM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:

...

> and what about
> 
> find /lib/modules/ -iname \*berry\*
> 
> and then 
> 
> insmod $THE_COMPLETE_PATH_FOUND_AS_ABOVE
> 
> (if there is a module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ which probably is not
> true given the depmod -a result above)

/home/carlf# find /lib/modules/ -iname \*berry\*
/lib/modules/2.6.22-2-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
/home/carlf# modprobe 
/lib/modules/2.6.22-3-k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko
FATAL: Module /lib/modules/2.6.22_3_k7/kernel/drivers/usb/misc/berry_charge.ko 
not found.

So, is refusing to admit that a file which is clearly present in fact exists
a bug in the kernel worth reporting?

I may just go ahead and compile a custom kernl with berry_charge integral.
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Re: apt-get wants to uninstatll grub

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 05:10:20PM -0700, Tom Brown wrote:
> apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4-686
> caused apt-get to want to uninstall grub

what happens with

apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4-686 grub

?

At least, it should explain the dependenchy problem.

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Re: Re: Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 09:11:46PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > strace -f -o /tmp/apt-get.log apt-get update
> Any other ideas?  - John

yes, post (or, better, make it avilable on a web server) the file
/tmp/apt-get.log where strace has put its debug information.

Moreover, what happened when in sources.list you used the ip in place of
security.debian.org ?

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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Cox
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 00:17:09 +0300, Dotan Cohen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

> 2008/5/6 Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> >> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> >> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
> >
> > It all looks ok from here using mutt.  I am seeing each character
> > separated by a dash or hyphen.
> >
> 
> If so, then I have friends who would want to see your .mutt or .muttrc
> or whatever config file that program uses.
> 
> Can you confirm that the aleph "א" is the rightmost character, and
> that the tav "ת" is the leftmost character? Thanks.

Yes, I can confirm that.

The only relevant line in my ~/.muttrc I can find is

set charset="utf-8"

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Re: Hplip

2008-05-05 Thread Andrew Malcolmson

On Mon, 05 May 2008 22:30:08 +0300, "David Baron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:
> I have been unable to get this to recognize my HP printer, either looking 
> directly to the parallel port or using CUPS. I set the driver to the one 
> which includes hplip, manually changed the URI to hp://..., nothing
> helps. No 
> one on their forum could solve this.
> 
> Anyone had any luck with these utilities?

Try running:

hp-makeuri /dev/parport0

This will provide the correct URI but if it reports no device found,
maybe there's a connection problem.
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Re: debconf dependency problems

2008-05-05 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote:

> Has anyone encountered this problem? Is there any workaround?
> 

There[1] seem to be a problem with debconf-i18n package in sid. It is to do
with the Perl 5.10 transition. 

[1] - http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/05/msg00019.html

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Re: usb not detected in gnome

2008-05-05 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi

Jianbo Wang wrote:

Hi,
 
I install Etch r3. USB device is detected in KDE, but not in gnome. Is 
it a bug or I need configure my GDM? I am in mailing list, so please cc 
to my email. Thanks!
 
Regards!
 
Jianbo




Check your preferences for the removable drives and media and make sure 
that automatically mount removable media is checked.


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Re: Cannot partition a hard drive with the Etch installer

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:40:01PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 05:52:11PM -0400, Ken Heard wrote:
> [snip]
> 
> Can I suggest 2 things
> 1 make a bigger boot partition (i typically make it 500M - the cost of
> drives make this easy, plus it gives you room to move)

But /boot only holds the kernels, initrds, and /boot/grub.  How many
kernels do you keep around?  My /boot is 64 MB and my / is 300 MB.  The
kernel's modules go in /lib which is in the rootfs.

> 2 make another primary partition for root, I typically make it 10G, but
> you can make it a lot smaller. Easier for recovery when your root is on
> a primary partition and plain ext3.

Unless you're using LVM or something, you don't really need a separate
/boot partition unless you have /boot, then / with everything else in
it.  I happen to use LVM over raid1 so I have a separate /boot.

If you don't need a separate /boot, then / with /boot (with the other
usual suspects off in their own partitions) will certainly fit (and is
better if it does on some systems) in the first 512 MB.

Doug.


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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:12:46AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > $ mutt -v
> > > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
> > 
> > Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> > I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> > unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
> 
> It works under xfce4-terminal. Right now I am experimenting with 
> different fonts for mlterm, but can't seem to get it right.

If only locales didn't slow down all my boxes except for my big
Athlon64.  Running a mixed C and UTF-8 home network is a PITA because
when you ssh in you have to remember to start with LANG=C anyway.  

So your ??s look like ??s to me.

Its not that bad since one ?? would mean the same as another ?? to me
anyway.  

What gets me is when a man page is written in english and "'" gets
translated as "?", as in can?t or "'" is a square white blob (on a
regular VT).  Why couldn't whoever wrote it in english have used the
standard english "'" glyph instead of a UTF thingy?


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Re: Need Desperate Help Installing Debian-Builder

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:33:31PM +0500, Yassir Saeed wrote:
> I am trying to get my hands dirty with linux as a MS(CS) Advanced
> Operation system Final Project. So far i am going fine enough, but i
> am having a problem installing debian-builder package
>  
> i tried to install it from Aptitude (package manager) but there are
> lot of dependencies they have the message "unsatisfactory" or
> "unavailable".
>  
> also i have no luck with apt-get. i do not know how to edit
> resources.list as "root", and donot know to links required to install
> debian-builder package
>  
> Please i beg you to help be "Fate of my course is in your hands" Yasir
> saeed  (please reply at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this mean that those of us without a CS anything degree can
automatically get a MS(CS) if we've been using CLI debian for years, and
can correctly answer your question?

Cool.

:)

If you don't know how to edit resources.list as root then you probably
should not be installing debian-builder or trying to build (or rebuild)
packages. :)

To install packages, you have to be root, however you get there (login,
su, sudo, or aptitude asking you for root's password).  If anyone but
root could edit sources.list then they could Trojan-horse the whole
system.

Run aptitude update then use aptitude interactively and select
debian-builder.  If any dependancies are unmet, you'll see it there
before you try to install it.  You can then poke around and see what's
up.

Then you'll have to become root.  If this is your machine, you will have
the root password.  If this is not your machine, you'll have to ask the
sysadmin for some help.

Doug.

P.S.  My address has been posted to this list before.  You can mail my
MS(CS) degree at your convenience.

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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:29:55AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
 
> > Also while we are at it, any suggestions on what I can use
> > in place of gasoline in my car :)?
> 
> Of all the fuels that are liquid at room temperature (and thus
> easily transportable and storable without special equipment)
> gasoline and petrodiesel have the highest energy densities.  (And
> biodiesel has more energy than ethanol.)

What's cheapest by BTU in your area?  Propane?  Natural Gas?  Gasoline?
Diesel?  How far do you drive; get an electric?  Horse and buggy: just
don't work on the software while riding, wouldn't want it to be buggy
too! :)

Doug.


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Re: hard drive problems

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 07:10:34AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> 
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2: timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE,
> stat=0x440
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct
> 0x7fff SErr 0x0 action 0x0
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: cmd
> 61/08:00:42:e8:21/00:00:01:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 out
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel:  res
> 41/04:00:cd:7d:91/04:00:31:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: error: { ABRT }
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: cmd
> 61/08:08:1a:e8:25/00:00:01:00:00/40 tag 1 ncq 4096 out
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel:  res
> 41/04:08:1a:e8:25/24:00:01:00:00/40 Emask 0x401 (device error) 
> May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
> 
> and finding my machine in a hung state (caps lock and the third led
> flashing) I have had to reset the machine (3 times now in the last 3
> weeks).
> 
> I am guessing it is a hard drive problem, cause I recently bought new
> hard drives.
> 
> I am trying to figure out is it sda or sdb can you tell from ata2.00
> ?(if so how)

First, ensure you have good recent backups.

Then install smartmontools and run a long S.M.A.R.T. test and check the
results.  

Why did you recently buy new drives?  If it was because old drives
failed, they may have damaged the controller and you're seeing
controller failure instead of drive failure.

Doug.


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Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 08:34:56AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
> > getent hosts ftp.us.debian.org
> > getent hosts security.debian.org
> > getent hosts www.google.com
> > getent hosts www.wikipedia.org
> 
> Those return the expected results!
> 
> The problem seems to be specific to apt-get and aptitude.

Confirm that ping ftp.us.debian.org  and ping security.debian.org works.

If it does, then you know the problem is related to something in
/etc/apt.  I don't suppose when you transferred your backups over you
kept the origional?  If not, just reading the files there should point
you in the right direction.

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Re: Bugs in latest upgrade for Debian etch

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 04:01:42PM +0100, Lesley Binks wrote:
> I just did an 'apt-get upgrade -s'  and found these updates were required
 
> Preparing to replace cpio 2.6-18 (using .../cpio_2.6-18.1+etch1_i386.deb) ...
> Unpacking replacement cpio ...

> Setting up cpio (2.6-18.1+etch1) ...
> Errno architecture (i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.22-3-amd64) does
> not match executable architecture
> (i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.24.4) at
> /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm line 11.
> Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/install-info line 308.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/install-info line 308.
> dpkg: error processing cpio (--configure):
>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9
 
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  cpio
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> 
> I don't have the time to fix this problem right now.  I don't actually
> expect to have the time to repair this problem for about 12-14 days.
> 
> So it seems like a good idea to post this problem and see if anyone
> else has experienced problems with this set of upgrades, if a bug has
> been raised, whether I face a complete re-install or not, or whether
> the whole situation is completely recoverable in some way.
> 
> If anyone can shed some light on what I should do I will let you know
> how I got on in about two week's time.
> 
> I'm running a Barton core btw.

I don't know what a Barton core is.  I'm running i386 and amd64 on two
different boxes (with an i386 chroot too) and didn't have a problem.

Right now, you should have the new cpio unpacked and therefore the new
binaries will be used.

You could look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/cpio*

The related scripts seem to be setting up update-alternatives.  Try
running the scripts manually and track the problem.

Unfortunatly, since cpio is required, you can't just easily remove it
and then install it.

Doug.


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Re: GPRS/EDGE PCMCIA/MiniPCI card working perfectly with Debian

2008-05-05 Thread steve

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s. keeling wrote:
| Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
|>  since my "Nokia 6120 classic" is screwing me up, please can anyone
|>  recommend a perfect workin[g] PCMCIA and a MiniPCI card for my
|>  Laptop and my Router?
|
| Sorry, no.
|
|>  I need it only to get my messages out of my Mailboxes and respond
|>  in an acceptable delay...  Going 2-3 times per week in a Internet
|>  cafe and downloadig tonns (20-100 MBytes) of messages (I get
|>  around 3500 legitim[ate] message[s] per day) is annoying.
|
| GPRS supports speeds up to 114 kbit/s.  Can't you find anybody[*]
| who's offering cat-5 10BaseT connections at least, or adsl speeds?  I
| pay thirty bucks a month for adsl.
|
|
| [*] I am supremely ignorant of Internet cafe practice.

cingular gt max 3.6

I dont see a reason why it wouldnt work with debian, although I am using
it on ubuntu 8.04, see a short write up here.

http://reillyblog.com/archives/70-ATT-Broadband-Card-GT-Max-3.6-with-Ubuntu-8.04.html






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Re: Re: Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/5/08, NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >On 5/5/08, NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> then check apt configuration files in /etc/apt/ and subdirectories
> >> (proxy or other unusual configuration settings? corrupted files?)
> >
> >I don't see any problems there.
>
> But it semms like you are using a non-working proxy (by a configuration
> file or a environement variable or some transparent preloading of socks
> libraries or something like that)
>
> >Luke:~# apt-get update
> >http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
> > Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
>
> one thing that you could try is: replace in sources.list
> security.debian.org with (one of) its ip. I have just checked the
> existence of
> http://130.89.175.54/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
>
> One can try a more verbose apt-get command hoping for more details in
> the error message
>
> The last idea could be
>
> strace -f -o /tmp/apt-get.log apt-get update

Luke:~# strace -f -o /tmp/apt-get.log apt-get update
Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Err http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Err http://www.backport.org etch-backports Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'www.backport.org'
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Ign http://www.backport.org etch-backports Release
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://www.backport.org etch-backports/main Packages
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Err http://www.backport.org etch-backports/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'www.backport.org'
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Err http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release.gpg
 Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release.gpg  Could not
resolve 'security.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile/Release.gpg
 Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://www.backport.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release.gpg  Could
not resolve 'www.backport.org'
Failed to fetch
http://www.backport.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'www.backport.org'
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Reading package lists... Done
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backport.org
etch-backports/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/www.backport.org_debian_dists_etch-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.
Luke:~#

Any other ideas?  - John


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debconf dependency problems

2008-05-05 Thread Raj Kiran Grandhi
I am trying to dist-upgrade my sid machine and am getting a dependency 
error:


==
$ apt-get -d --print-uris --ignore-hold dist-upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Failed
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  debconf: Depends: debconf-i18n but it is not going to be installed or
debconf-english but it is not going to be installed
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be 
caused by held packages.

==

I have manually upgrades debconf-i18n and debconf and the currently 
installed versions are the latest as reported by 'apt-cache policy':


==
$ apt-cache policy debconf-i18n debconf
debconf-i18n:
  Installed: 1.5.21
  Candidate: 1.5.21
  Version table:
 *** 1.5.21 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages
500 http://ftp.iitm.ac.in sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1.5.11etch1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org etch/main Packages
debconf:
  Installed: 1.5.21
  Candidate: 1.5.21
  Version table:
 *** 1.5.21 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org testing/main Packages
500 http://ftp.iitm.ac.in sid/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1.5.11etch1 0
500 http://mirrors.kernel.org etch/main Packages
==

Has anyone encountered this problem? Is there any workaround?

Thanks,
Raj Kiran Grandhi
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Re: Hplip

2008-05-05 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Monday 05 May 2008 21:30:08 David Baron wrote:
> I have been unable to get this to recognize my HP printer, either looking
> directly to the parallel port or using CUPS. I set the driver to the one
> which includes hplip, manually changed the URI to hp://..., nothing helps.
> No one on their forum could solve this.
>
> Anyone had any luck with these utilities?

Which printer?
T


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Re: GPRS/EDGE PCMCIA/MiniPCI card working perfectly with Debian

2008-05-05 Thread s. keeling
Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>  since my "Nokia 6120 classic" is screwing me up, please can anyone
>  recommend a perfect workin[g] PCMCIA and a MiniPCI card for my
>  Laptop and my Router?

Sorry, no.

>  I need it only to get my messages out of my Mailboxes and respond
>  in an acceptable delay...  Going 2-3 times per week in a Internet
>  cafe and downloadig tonns (20-100 MBytes) of messages (I get
>  around 3500 legitim[ate] message[s] per day) is annoying.

GPRS supports speeds up to 114 kbit/s.  Can't you find anybody[*]
who's offering cat-5 10BaseT connections at least, or adsl speeds?  I
pay thirty bucks a month for adsl.


[*] I am supremely ignorant of Internet cafe practice.
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apt-get wants to uninstatll grub

2008-05-05 Thread Tom Brown
Hi,

I did an 'apt-get update/upgrade' from sarge to etch. Everything went
fine. Then I wanted to upgrade my kernel. This command:

apt-get install linux-image-2.6.18-4-686

caused apt-get to want to uninstall grub and then install lilo. Why is
that happening? I'd like to keep grub. So, how do I prevent lilo from
being installed and upgrade my kernel?

Thanks,
Tom



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Printing from user www-data

2008-05-05 Thread Travis Crook
Hi all,
I have LedgerSMB up and running (version 1.2.13) and it works
great except for one little problem.  When I print a batch report I get
the following error in my apache log file:

lpr: Error - scheduler not responding!

I believe this is a permissions problem.  When I print using lpr from
the command line as my everyday user or as root I get no problems (file
gets sent to the printer and comes out looking like it should).  When I
su to www-data and try to do the same thing I get the above error in my
log file.  Do I need to give the www-data user permissions to print?
If so, how do I do it?  

P.S. Google has not been my friend on this one...

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Re: (visual) diff for large files

2008-05-05 Thread Javier Barroso
On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 3:06 PM, michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Yes now I am in the right dir and apply your patch and compile I get
> some execs but it still falls over with large (2.5GB) input files:

Hi,

When I have to compare two large files, first, I split them into smaller
files, then I run diff between these files (with bash help, of course). In
my case it worked fine.

Regards


Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:17:09AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/6 Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> >> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> >> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
> >
> > It all looks ok from here using mutt.  I am seeing each character
> > separated by a dash or hyphen.
> >
> 
> If so, then I have friends who would want to see your .mutt or .muttrc
> or whatever config file that program uses.
> 
> Can you confirm that the aleph "א" is the rightmost character, and
> that the tav "ת" is the leftmost character? Thanks.

I can confirm that for you, but it only works if I use mutt under 
xfce4-terminal. I doesn't work with mlterm (or I'm missing a setting).

I don't have anything related in my .muttrc except

set charset="utf-8"

but it works even if I unset that.

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:58:25AM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> I tend to print out a lot of documentation on the software for
> projects that I work on. Therefore I go through alot of laserjet
> cartidges on my postscript compatible hp laserjet 1200 printer.
> 
> My latest cartridge just needs to be replaced again.
> 
> I am tired of paying so much money for the new laser ink cartiridges
> each time.
 

Do you need laser-quality for anything but the final print?  I use a
non-ps (ghostscript and a printfilter take care of everything) Epson
LQ-2180 24-pin impact printer, wide platten.  Good quality wide-platten
printers are easier to come by on eBay than narrow-platten.  Mine cost
$100.  New it would cost $1000.  Epson told me that not much changes
between versions.  In fact, the MTBF doesn't change much.

The wide-platten ribbons last longer for the same number of characters
and don't cost much more than the narrow.  I think I paid $24 CDN for
the ribbon and its good for about 8,000 pages of plain type.

The printer has multiple paper paths: rear push, front push, top-front
push-pull, top-bottom pull, single-sheet front, single-sheet top.  You
can get sheet feeders for the top to use standard copier paper, or you
can get a roll paper holder.

Changing paper paths for those that support "parking" is as simple as
pushing a load/unload button, and moving a lever.  The paper will load
from the desired path automatically with the next job.

There is no paper waste between jobs; the printer has a tear-off button
which advances the paper for tear-off and then returns the paper to
top-of-form.

The printer is capable of 360x360 but gs-gpl + apsfilter only does
360x180.  IIRC, gs-esp and foomatic-printfilter will do the 360x360.

I find the printer does about 6 pages per minute when doing ps
(graphics).

Doug.


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Re: (visual) diff for large files

2008-05-05 Thread Sergio Cuéllar Valdés
2008/5/3 michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>  Yes now I am in the right dir and apply your patch and compile I get
>  some execs but it still falls over with large (2.5GB) input files:
>
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp/xxdiff_files
>  $ /home/michael/src/bsd-diff/bin/diff/diff OLDrun.log.part4
>  run.log.part4
>  diff: OLDrun.log.part4: Value too large for defined data type

Hello,

hmmm, I think that is more a Linux issue then.  Sorry. But you could
install a FreeBSD in a virtual machine =).

Best regards,
Sergio Cuellar

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Re: Hplip

2008-05-05 Thread Adrian Levi
2008/5/6 David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I have been unable to get this to recognize my HP printer, either looking
>  directly to the parallel port or using CUPS. I set the driver to the one
>  which includes hplip, manually changed the URI to hp://..., nothing helps. No
>  one on their forum could solve this.
>
>  Anyone had any luck with these utilities?

Running Etch here using hplip 1.6.10-3etch1 to run a HP Deskjet F2180
that my wife bought and I hate immensely. Wasn't particularly hard to
get it to work from memory.

I configured it with the instructions at linuxprinting.org. Also I use
CUPS here that might change things.

Adrian

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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/6 Bob Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
>> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
>> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.
>
> It all looks ok from here using mutt.  I am seeing each character
> separated by a dash or hyphen.
>

If so, then I have friends who would want to see your .mutt or .muttrc
or whatever config file that program uses.

Can you confirm that the aleph "א" is the rightmost character, and
that the tav "ת" is the leftmost character? Thanks.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 12:01:05AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > $ mutt -v
> > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
> 
> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.

It works under xfce4-terminal. Right now I am experimenting with 
different fonts for mlterm, but can't seem to get it right.

Regards,
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hard drive problems

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Samad
Hi

I have been getting alot of these

May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2: timeout waiting for ADMA IDLE,
stat=0x440
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct
0x7fff SErr 0x0 action 0x0
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: CPB resp_flags 0x11: , CMD error
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: cmd
61/08:00:42:e8:21/00:00:01:00:00/40 tag 0 ncq 4096 out
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel:  res
41/04:00:cd:7d:91/04:00:31:00:00/40 Emask 0x1 (device error)
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: error: { ABRT }
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: cmd
61/08:08:1a:e8:25/00:00:01:00:00/40 tag 1 ncq 4096 out
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel:  res
41/04:08:1a:e8:25/24:00:01:00:00/40 Emask 0x401 (device error) 
May  5 23:31:46 hufpuf kernel: ata2.00: status: { DRDY ERR }



and finding my machine in a hung state (caps lock and the third led
flashing) I have had to reset the machine (3 times now in the last 3
weeks).

I am guessing it is a hard drive problem, cause I recently bought new
hard drives.

I am trying to figure out is it sda or sdb can you tell from ata2.00
?(if so how)

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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Bob Cox
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 00:01:05 +0300, Dotan Cohen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: 

> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > $ mutt -v
> > Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)
> 
> Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
> I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
> unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.

> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

It all looks ok from here using mutt.  I am seeing each character
separated by a dash or hyphen.

Mutt 1.5.17+20080114 (2008-01-14)

$ locale | grep LANG
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8


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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> $ mutt -v
> Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)

Ah, Mutt is known not to work with Hebrew. There is a workaround, and
I have it buried in my notes somewhere if you really need it. But
unless you communicate in Hebrew, it is not worth the trouble.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: Hplip

2008-05-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Mon, 05 May 2008 22:30:08 +0300
David Baron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello David,

> I have been unable to get this to recognize my HP printer, either
> looking directly to the parallel port or using CUPS. I set the driver
> to the one which includes hplip, manually changed the URI to
> hp://..., nothing helps. No one on their forum could solve this.
> Anyone had any luck with these utilities?

You don't say which version of Debian you're using, or which version of
HPLIP.  However, using Lenny and had version 2.7.10 of HPLIP working,
but 2.8.2 didn't recognise my printer;  It seems the hp: driver is
broken.  Consequently, I had to redo my printer configs in CUPS to get
anything working.

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Re: Issue with VMware

2008-05-05 Thread Miguel Gaiowski
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Mirco Piccin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> > So I installed VMware server, had to use the any-any update for I use
> the
> > 2.6.24 kernel and
> > when I try to run it, it says that same message as before running the
> > vmware-conifig.pl tool.
>
> I'm running about the same kernel (2.6.24-1-686).


Same here.


>
> I'm running also VMWare server rel. 1.0.5 (latest).


Again, same thing.


>
> First i install VMWare Server with its installer (vmware-install.pl)
> and then, when the installer fails creating modules, i use the
> runme.pl included in vmware-any-any-update package (rel 116).
>

That's what I did.


>
> > I also tried VMware Workstation trial, and that didn't work either.
> >
> > I tried running vmware-config.pl after running the any-any update
> several
> > times, and I get the same message.
>
> Maybe posting error will help us.
>

$ vmware
vmware is installed, but it has not been (correctly) configured
for this system. To (re-)configure it, invoke the following command:
/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl.


>
> Anyway, if you update often your system (as me), the problem you
> encountered could be related to the current gcc version (different
> from the one used to compile the kernel).
> If so, you can recreate the link of /usr/bin/gcc to point to the right
> gcc version, for example:
>
> # ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  7 2008-04-09 21:27 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.1
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  82064 2008-03-29 18:16 /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 195844 2008-03-10 00:10 /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 192252 2008-03-24 01:09 /usr/bin/gcc-4.2
> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 207008 2008-04-02 05:04 /usr/bin/gcc-4.3
>
> # rm /usr/bin/gcc
> # ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 /usr/bin/gcc
>
> (of course gcc version may be different).
>
> ...and the retry with the installer or with the any-any-update.
> Or, better, you can force the use of a specific GCC version, but i
> don't remember how do that in this case.
>

This is what I did:

$: CC=gcc-4.1 ./runme.pl

This way it forces the compiler to be gcc-4.1



> Hope it helps you.
> Regards
> M
>

Thanks for your help anyway.


>
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Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon May 5 2008, Florian Kulzer wrote:
> Run (as root)
>
> dpkg --configure exim4-daemon-light
>
> and post the complete output of that command.

# dpkg --configure exim4-daemon-light
Setting up exim4-daemon-light (4.69-2+b1) ...
Starting MTA:exim: incompatible command-line options or arguments
invoke-rc.d: initscript exim4, action "start" failed.
dpkg: error processing exim4-daemon-light (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim4-daemon-light


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Hplip

2008-05-05 Thread David Baron
I have been unable to get this to recognize my HP printer, either looking 
directly to the parallel port or using CUPS. I set the driver to the one 
which includes hplip, manually changed the URI to hp://..., nothing helps. No 
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plone3-site and product "buildout"

2008-05-05 Thread Johannes Graumann
Hi,

What's the most debian-conform way to install a plone3 package
requiring "buildout" in a site create via the debian "plone3-package". Is
there a mailing list/newsgrou dedicated to plone in debian?

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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 08:50:27PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Is this a joke or am I missing something obvious? (wikipedia only shows
> > a Hebrew diacritic, Patach, that looks like a dash)
> >
> 
> No, no joke. What system are you on? Even your replies have the Hebrew
> quoted properly.

$ mutt -v
Mutt 1.5.17 (2007-11-01)

[...]

System: Linux 2.6.24-1-686 (i686)

[...]

$ locale | grep LANG
LANG=en_US.UTF-8

$ mlterm -v
mlterm version 2.9.4 

and the font I use is Terminus. I only see some dashes and spaces, but I 
guess there are some fonts missing. On the console I see dashes and 
diamonds. With xfce4-terminal and the Monospace font (I'm guessing it's 
actually DejaVu) I can see the characters correctly (as far as I can 
tell).

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. Now I'll reconsider switching to xfce4-terminal, though it starts 
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Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 14:31:59 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:

[...]

> > > what does this error below mean??
> > >
> > > E: exim4: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> 
> this is what I get when I went to install xorg-dev(among other things..):
> The following partially installed packages will be configured:
>   exim4 exim4-daemon-light 

The relevant messages about the problem with configuring
exim4-daemon-light are missing here...

> and when it was over:
>  exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | 
> exim4-daemon-custom; however:
>   Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
>   Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed.
>   Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed.
> dpkg: error processing exim4 (--configure):
>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  exim4-daemon-light
>  exim4

[...]

Run (as root)

dpkg --configure exim4-daemon-light

and post the complete output of that command.

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Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Brian McKee


what does this error below mean??

E: exim4: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured


this is what I get when I went to install xorg-dev(among other  
things..):

The following partially installed packages will be configured:
  exim4 exim4-daemon-light

and when it was over:
 exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy |
exim4-daemon-custom; however:
  Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
  Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed.
  Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed.
dpkg: error processing exim4 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim4-daemon-light
 exim4



Same error I mentioned earlier, and someone else pointed out over the  
weekend.


Can someone more familiar with deb packages explain how he can get  
the actual error that occurs when it tries to configure exim4?


As I said earlier,  I 'fixed' it by installing postfix instead

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Re: Issue with VMware

2008-05-05 Thread Mirco Piccin
Hi

> So I installed VMware server, had to use the any-any update for I use the
> 2.6.24 kernel and
> when I try to run it, it says that same message as before running the
> vmware-conifig.pl tool.

I'm running about the same kernel (2.6.24-1-686).
I'm running also VMWare server rel. 1.0.5 (latest).
First i install VMWare Server with its installer (vmware-install.pl)
and then, when the installer fails creating modules, i use the
runme.pl included in vmware-any-any-update package (rel 116).

> I also tried VMware Workstation trial, and that didn't work either.
>
> I tried running vmware-config.pl after running the any-any update several
> times, and I get the same message.

Maybe posting error will help us.

Anyway, if you update often your system (as me), the problem you
encountered could be related to the current gcc version (different
from the one used to compile the kernel).
If so, you can recreate the link of /usr/bin/gcc to point to the right
gcc version, for example:

# ls -l /usr/bin/gcc*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  7 2008-04-09 21:27 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  82064 2008-03-29 18:16 /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 195844 2008-03-10 00:10 /usr/bin/gcc-4.1
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 192252 2008-03-24 01:09 /usr/bin/gcc-4.2
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 207008 2008-04-02 05:04 /usr/bin/gcc-4.3

# rm /usr/bin/gcc
# ln -s /usr/bin/gcc-4.2 /usr/bin/gcc

(of course gcc version may be different).

...and the retry with the installer or with the any-any-update.
Or, better, you can force the use of a specific GCC version, but i
don't remember how do that in this case.

Hope it helps you.
Regards
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Kernel reporting errors

2008-05-05 Thread Gregor

Hi.

Since some time I am receiving some PCI Errors from the Kernel (from dmesg).

[ 1187.782720] +-- PCI-Express Device Error --+
[ 1187.782720] Error Severity   : Uncorrected (Non-Fatal)
[ 1187.782720] PCIE Bus Error type  : Transaction Layer
[ 1187.782720] Flow Control Protocol: Multiple
[ 1187.782720] Receiver ID  : 0010
[ 1187.782720] VendorID=1106h, DeviceID=a238h, Bus=00h, Device=02h, 
Function=00h

[ 1187.782720] Broadcast error_detected message
[ 1187.782720] Broadcast mmio_enabled message
[ 1187.782720] Broadcast resume message
[ 1187.782720] AER driver successfully recovered
[ 1190.506560] +-- PCI-Express Device Error --+
[ 1190.506560] Error Severity   : Uncorrected (Non-Fatal)
[ 1190.506560] PCIE Bus Error type  : Transaction Layer
[ 1190.506560] Flow Control Protocol: Multiple
[ 1190.506560] Receiver ID  : 0010
[ 1190.506560] VendorID=1106h, DeviceID=a238h, Bus=00h, Device=02h, 
Function=00h

[ 1190.506560] Broadcast error_detected message
[ 1190.506560] Broadcast mmio_enabled message
[ 1190.506560] Broadcast resume message
[ 1190.506560] AER driver successfully recovered
[ 1190.743839] +-- PCI-Express Device Error --+
[ 1190.743839] Error Severity   : Uncorrected (Non-Fatal)
[ 1190.743839] PCIE Bus Error type  : Transaction Layer
[ 1190.743839] Flow Control Protocol: First
[ 1190.743839] Receiver ID  : 0010
[ 1190.743839] VendorID=1106h, DeviceID=a238h, Bus=00h, Device=02h, 
Function=00h

[ 1190.743839] Broadcast error_detected message
[ 1190.743839] Broadcast mmio_enabled message
[ 1190.743839] Broadcast resume message
[ 1190.743839] AER driver successfully recovered


Is an example of the error.
Can anybody tell me whats wrong? Is my hardware broken somehow?
I wonder since everything works just fine.

Any help is appreciated.


Greg


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Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Mon May 5 2008, Alan Ianson wrote:
> > I might go to 2.6.24-1 soon, but with 22-3 I got my NVIDIA drivers to
> > install.. I always get confused as to what extra packages I need to
> > install the NVIDIA...run program.
>
> If your using nvidia's installer I would first install xorg-dev.

>
> I always build my own with module-assitant and sid sources.
>
> > anyway, it seemed to install exim, but I'm not sure what it needs to be
> > configured or if I need to. I use kmail with pop/smtp servers from my
> > ISP/domain hosts, so I really only need local mail for my logged in user
> > ( which is setup in kmail).
>
> In that case you probably don't need exim but it is installed by default in
> debian.


>
> > what does this error below mean??
> >
> > E: exim4: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

this is what I get when I went to install xorg-dev(among other things..):
The following partially installed packages will be configured:
  exim4 exim4-daemon-light 

and when it was over:
 exim4 depends on exim4-daemon-light | exim4-daemon-heavy | 
exim4-daemon-custom; however:
  Package exim4-daemon-light is not configured yet.
  Package exim4-daemon-heavy is not installed.
  Package exim4-daemon-custom is not installed.
dpkg: error processing exim4 (--configure):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
 exim4-daemon-light
 exim4


> I haven't seen that, is your mirror up to date?
I always do an apt-get update before i do anything..



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Re: Re: full control of connections

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: frits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The idea of different users is not really usable. I use my systems to
>work.

this is interesting: it is the first time that I hear about unix 
multiuser capabilities (to run applications side by side as different
users) being "not really usable". Can you elaborate?


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Issue with VMware

2008-05-05 Thread Miguel Gaiowski
Hey all,

So I installed VMware server, had to use the any-any update for I use the
2.6.24 kernel and
when I try to run it, it says that same message as before running the
vmware-conifig.pl tool.

I also tried VMware Workstation trial, and that didn't work either.

I tried running vmware-config.pl after running the any-any update several
times, and I get the same message.

Does anyone know what might be the problem?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Booting kernel 2.6.25 from Debian40r3 prompts: Waiting for root file system

2008-05-05 Thread Alex Samad
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:04:12AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On May 5, 5:40 am, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:50:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > $ cat /proc/partitions
> > > major minor  #blocks  name
> > >8 08388608 sda
> > >8 1 273073 sda1
> > >8 2  1 sda2
> > >8 53060351 sda5
> > >8 61477948 sda6
> > >8 7 273073 sda7
> > >8 8 265041 sda8
> > >8 93036253 sda9
> > > $ ls -al /dev/sda
> > > brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 2008-05-05 02:46 /dev/sda
> > > $
> >  was this done whilst trying to boot 2.6.25, if so mount /dev/sda1 and
> > exit out and initramfs should continue on its way
> 
> Did you mean I can run " $ mount /dev/sda1 / " if I had "sda" in the
> above record? In fact the above came with the 2.6.18. Sorry that I
> didn't state it clearly.
initramfs loads up a mini rootfs one of the directories is /rootfs (I
think, haven't looked at it in a while), this is the location that it
loads the root fs before doing a pivot root and then starting the
system.


> 
> The result after I boot the new built 2.6.25 is below. How can I
> correct it? Thank you.
> 
> (initramfs) cat /proc/partitions
>  major minor  #blocks  name
> 
> 1   0   4096ram0
> 1   1   4096ram0
> 1   2   4096ram0
> 1   3   4096ram0
> 
> [output snipped]
> 
> 1  15   4096ram15
> 
> (initramfs) ls /dev/sda
> ls: /dev/sda: No such file or directory
> 
> (initramfs)

by the looks of it initrd can't see your hard drives, are the proper
modules loaded into initramfs ?  try a lsmod and/or a ls -lR
/lib/modules/*, whilst in initrd

have a look in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
 especially at 
MODULES=most


maybe yours is set to dep and initramfs is getting it wrong, then
rebuild the initrd

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usb not detected in gnome

2008-05-05 Thread Jianbo Wang

Hi,
 
I install Etch r3. USB device is detected in KDE, but not in gnome. Is it a bug 
or I need configure my GDM? I am in mailing list, so please cc to my email. 
Thanks!
 
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Re: Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/5 Christer Oldhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> In the 'raw' version of the mail, the beginning of the above line reads:
>
> =D7=90-=D7=91-=D7=92-=D7=93-=D7=94-=D7=95-=D7=96-=D7=97-=D7=98-=D7=99-
>
> For example, 0xD7 0x90 is the UTF-8 encoding for the Hebrew letter aleph.

Right, now run that text through the engine at http://gibberish.co.il
and see that even the encoded UTF-8 it parses properly.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Is this a joke or am I missing something obvious? (wikipedia only shows
> a Hebrew diacritic, Patach, that looks like a dash)
>

No, no joke. What system are you on? Even your replies have the Hebrew
quoted properly.

Dotan Cohen

http://what-is-what.com
http://gibberish.co.il
א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?


Re: Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Christer Oldhoff
Hello Andrei,

On 2008-05-05, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:49:44AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> >> You are 100% correct, Andrei. See those Hebrew letters at the bottom
>> >> of every post I make? It's to build a database of wrongly-encoded
>> >
>> > No. I didn't trim anything from what you wrote. What am I missing?
>> >
>> 
>> ?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?-?
>>
In the 'raw' version of the mail, the beginning of the above line reads:

=D7=90-=D7=91-=D7=92-=D7=93-=D7=94-=D7=95-=D7=96-=D7=97-=D7=98-=D7=99-

For example, 0xD7 0x90 is the UTF-8 encoding for the Hebrew letter aleph.
> [...]
> Is this a joke or am I missing something obvious? (wikipedia only shows 
> a Hebrew diacritic, Patach, that looks like a dash)
>
So, there are UTF-8-encoded chars there which some of us do not see.

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Re: exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Alan Ianson
On Mon May 5 2008 10:24:35 am Paul Cartwright wrote:
> I was having problems with sound, so I decided to upgrade to lenny.
> I am now on
> $ uname -a
>  2.6.22-3-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 20:20:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
>
>
> I might go to 2.6.24-1 soon, but with 22-3 I got my NVIDIA drivers to
> install.. I always get confused as to what extra packages I need to install
> the NVIDIA...run program.

If your using nvidia's installer I would first install xorg-dev.

I always build my own with module-assitant and sid sources.

> anyway, it seemed to install exim, but I'm not sure what it needs to be
> configured or if I need to. I use kmail with pop/smtp servers from my
> ISP/domain hosts, so I really only need local mail for my logged in user (
> which is setup in kmail).

In that case you probably don't need exim but it is installed by default in 
debian.

> what does this error below mean??
>
> E: exim4: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured

I haven't seen that, is your mirror up to date?


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Re: Booting kernel 2.6.25 from Debian40r3 prompts: Waiting for root file system

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 4, 7:20 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
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[...]

The mount reports this inside that broken newly built 2.6.25

(initramfs) mount
none on /sys type sysfs (rw)
none on /proc type proc (rw)
udev on /udev type tmpfs (rw, size=10240k,mode=755)
(initramfs)


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Re: Booting kernel 2.6.25 from Debian40r3 prompts: Waiting for root file system

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 5, 5:40 am, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 03:50:28AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > $ cat /proc/partitions
> > major minor  #blocks  name
> >8 08388608 sda
> >8 1 273073 sda1
> >8 2  1 sda2
> >8 53060351 sda5
> >8 61477948 sda6
> >8 7 273073 sda7
> >8 8 265041 sda8
> >8 93036253 sda9
> > $ ls -al /dev/sda
> > brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 2008-05-05 02:46 /dev/sda
> > $
>  was this done whilst trying to boot 2.6.25, if so mount /dev/sda1 and
> exit out and initramfs should continue on its way

Did you mean I can run " $ mount /dev/sda1 / " if I had "sda" in the
above record? In fact the above came with the 2.6.18. Sorry that I
didn't state it clearly.

The result after I boot the new built 2.6.25 is below. How can I
correct it? Thank you.

(initramfs) cat /proc/partitions
 major minor  #blocks  name

1   0   4096ram0
1   1   4096ram0
1   2   4096ram0
1   3   4096ram0

[output snipped]

1  15   4096ram15

(initramfs) ls /dev/sda
ls: /dev/sda: No such file or directory

(initramfs)


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exim4 config for Lenny?

2008-05-05 Thread Paul Cartwright
I was having problems with sound, so I decided to upgrade to lenny.
I am now on 
$ uname -a
 2.6.22-3-686 #1 SMP Sun Feb 10 20:20:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux


I might go to 2.6.24-1 soon, but with 22-3 I got my NVIDIA drivers to 
install.. I always get confused as to what extra packages I need to install 
the NVIDIA...run program.
anyway, it seemed to install exim, but I'm not sure what it needs to be 
configured or if I need to. I use kmail with pop/smtp servers from my 
ISP/domain hosts, so I really only need local mail for my logged in user ( 
which is setup in kmail).

what does this error below mean??

E: exim4: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
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Re: [Kind of OT] Why's this look like gibberish to me?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 10:49:44AM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> 2008/5/5 Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >> You are 100% correct, Andrei. See those Hebrew letters at the bottom
> >> of every post I make? It's to build a database of wrongly-encoded
> >
> > No. I didn't trim anything from what you wrote. What am I missing?
> >
> 
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> 
> Dotan Cohen
> 
> http://what-is-what.com
> http://gibberish.co.il
> א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת
> 
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Is this a joke or am I missing something obvious? (wikipedia only shows 
a Hebrew diacritic, Patach, that looks like a dash)

Regards,
Andrei
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Re: memory recognition

2008-05-05 Thread ChadDavis
I installed the bigmem kernel ( 2.6.24-1-686 ).  Thought this is the same
kernel version that my system has been running on, when I try to boot to the
bigmem kernel, the boot process creeps along at an incredibly slow rate and
appears to hang during dev assignment / configuration, though it seems that
if I would have left it going for a half an hour it might have made it
further.

My question is simple.  Am I naive to think that the bigmem version of the
same kernel version would be similar enough to the standard kernel to have
no issues with my hardware?

On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 2:56 PM, | Dominique H. Schramm (ML) | <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> ChadDavis schrieb:
>
> > I have 8gb of memory, bios sees it.  Lenny only sees 3.2 gb.
> > Is there a different version of the kernel or parameter to make it see
> > all of my memory?
> >
>
> If you compile your kernel by hand, look at menuconfig for
> CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G
>
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>
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>
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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Sam Leon

Mitchell Laks wrote:

Hi,

I tend to print out a lot of documentation on the software for projects
that I work on. Therefore I go through alot of laserjet cartidges on my
postscript compatible hp laserjet 1200 printer.

My latest cartridge just needs to be replaced again.

I am tired of paying so much money for the new laser ink cartiridges each time.

I have read recently a wall street analyst say that 
'consumers are stupid - they buy printers by the cost of hardware

not total cost of ownership'.

are there any truly cheaper approaches? Can we buy a postscript laserprinter
that is not designed to use proprietary cartridges that we must
buy from the company at inflated prices?

Also while we are at it, any suggestions on what I can use
in place of gasoline in my car :)?

Mitchell




The brother HL-5250DN is about the cheapest networked laserjet that I 
have found.  It has a high output ink cartridge that is not that 
expensive.  However it does have a separate drum unit that must be 
replaced every 2 pages or so and it is expensive.  But after 
crunching the numbers, the brother still comes out cheaper than some of 
the cheaper lasrerjets that have low yield cartridges that are a 
cart/drum unit in one.


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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Hubert Chathi
On Mon, 5 May 2008 01:56:36 -0700 (PDT), phobot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

> On May 5, 8:10 am, Mitchell Laks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi, My latest cartridge just needs to be replaced again.  are there
>> any truly cheaper approaches? Can we buy a postscript laserprinter
>> that is not designed to use proprietary cartridges that we must buy
>> from the company at inflated prices?
> Have you thought of refilling thouse cartridges?! A quick google
> search and:
> http://www.wikihow.com/Refill-and-Reuse-a-Printer-Cartridge

Err... you should note that that site only applies to inkjet cartridges,
and not laser printer cartridges.  I would not suggest anyone try to
refill a laser printer cartridge by themselves.  However, you may be
able to find a local shop that can do it for you.

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Re: how to disable the touchpad when pluging usb mouse?

2008-05-05 Thread Andrea Gozzi
On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 18:49 +0300, Micha wrote:
> Is it possible, and if so how to automatically disable the touchpad when
> plugging in a usb mouse to the laptop?
> 
> this is a dell vosotro laptop with the touchpad using the synapics driver
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

easy peasy:
http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/03/24/disable-synaptics-touchpad/

Andrea


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Re: full control of connections

2008-05-05 Thread frits
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:28:03AM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
> > * From: frits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >allowed to include the applications in the firewall rules.
> 
> man iptables in etch still shows
> 
>owner
>This  module attempts to match various characteristics of the packet 
> creator, for locally-
>generated packets. 

On the same page:
 NOTE: pid, sid and command matching are broken on SMP

Most modern processors are SMP, and it really appears broken.

The idea of different users is not really usable. I use my systems to
work.

Any idea when  --cmd-owner gets fixed?


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how to disable the touchpad when pluging usb mouse?

2008-05-05 Thread Micha
Is it possible, and if so how to automatically disable the touchpad when
plugging in a usb mouse to the laptop?

this is a dell vosotro laptop with the touchpad using the synapics driver

Thanks


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Re: Re: Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On 5/5/08, NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> then check apt configuration files in /etc/apt/ and subdirectories
>> (proxy or other unusual configuration settings? corrupted files?)
>
>I don't see any problems there.

But it semms like you are using a non-working proxy (by a configuration
file or a environement variable or some transparent preloading of socks
libraries or something like that)

>Luke:~# apt-get update
>http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
> Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'

one thing that you could try is: replace in sources.list
security.debian.org with (one of) its ip. I have just checked the
existence of
http://130.89.175.54/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz

One can try a more verbose apt-get command hoping for more details in
the error message

The last idea could be

strace -f -o /tmp/apt-get.log apt-get update


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Bugs in latest upgrade for Debian etch

2008-05-05 Thread Lesley Binks
Hi

I just did an 'apt-get upgrade -s'  and found these updates were required

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages will be upgraded:
  cpio libperl5.8 linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 perl perl-base perl-doc perl-modules
7 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Inst perl-modules [5.8.8-7etch2] (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Inst perl [5.8.8-7etch2] (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable) []
Inst libperl5.8 [5.8.8-7etch2] (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable) []
Inst perl-base [5.8.8-7etch2] (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf perl-base (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Inst linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 [2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1]
(2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Inst cpio [2.6-18] (2.6-18.1+etch1 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Inst perl-doc [5.8.8-7etch2] (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf perl (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf perl-modules (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf libperl5.8 (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf cpio (2.6-18.1+etch1 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)
Conf perl-doc (5.8.8-7etch3 Debian-Security:4.0/stable)

So I did an 'apt-get upgrade' and got these problems

Fetched 30.9MB in 9m37s (53.4kB/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 157473 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace perl-modules 5.8.8-7etch2 (using
.../perl-modules_5.8.8-7etch3_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl-modules ...
Preparing to replace perl 5.8.8-7etch2 (using
.../perl_5.8.8-7etch3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl ...
Preparing to replace libperl5.8 5.8.8-7etch2 (using
.../libperl5.8_5.8.8-7etch3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement libperl5.8 ...
Preparing to replace perl-base 5.8.8-7etch2 (using
.../perl-base_5.8.8-7etch3_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement perl-base ...
Setting up perl-base (5.8.8-7etch3) ...
(Reading database ... 157473 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1
(using .../linux-image-2.6.18-6-486_2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3_i386.deb)
...
The directory /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486 still exists. Continuing as directed.
Done.
Unpacking replacement linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 ...
Running postrm hook script /sbin/update-grub.
You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead!

Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486
Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done

Preparing to replace cpio 2.6-18 (using .../cpio_2.6-18.1+etch1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement cpio ...
Preparing to replace perl-doc 5.8.8-7etch2 (using
.../perl-doc_5.8.8-7etch3_all.deb) ...
Leaving `diversion of /usr/bin/perldoc to /usr/bin/perldoc.stub by perl-doc'
Unpacking replacement perl-doc ...
Setting up libperl5.8 (5.8.8-7etch3) ...

Setting up linux-image-2.6.18-6-486 (2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch3) ...

 Hmm. The package shipped with a symbolic link /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/source
 However, I can not read the target: No such file or directory
 Therefore, I am deleting /lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/source

Running depmod.
Finding valid ramdisk creators.
Using mkinitramfs-kpkg to build the ramdisk.
Not updating initrd symbolic links since we are being updated/reinstalled
(2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1 was configured last, according to dpkg)
Not updating image symbolic links since we are being updated/reinstalled
(2.6.18.dfsg.1-18etch1 was configured last, according to dpkg)
Running postinst hook script /sbin/update-grub.
You shouldn't call /sbin/update-grub. Please call /usr/sbin/update-grub instead!

Searching for GRUB installation directory ... found: /boot/grub
Searching for default file ... found: /boot/grub/default
Testing for an existing GRUB menu.lst file ... found: /boot/grub/menu.lst
Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.18-6-486
Found kernel: /vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486
Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done


Setting up cpio (2.6-18.1+etch1) ...
Errno architecture (i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.22-3-amd64) does
not match executable architecture
(i486-linux-gnu-thread-multi-2.6.24.4) at
/usr/local/share/perl/5.8.8/Errno.pm line 11.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/sbin/install-info line 308.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/install-info line 308.
dpkg: error processing cpio (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 9
Setting up perl-modules (5.8.8-7etch3) ...
Setting up perl (5.8.8-7etch3) ...

Setting up perl-doc (5.8.8-7etch3) ...

Errors were encountered while processing:
 cpio
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpk

Re: Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/5/08, NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >The problem seems to be specific to apt-get and aptitude.
>
> then check apt configuration files in /etc/apt/ and subdirectories
> (proxy or other unusual configuration settings? corrupted files?)

I don't see any problems there.  I can try restoring that directory
again in case there's something very subtly wrong with it - probably
later today.

> And post the complete and exact outpt of apt-get / aptitude

login as: root
Using keyboard-interactive authentication.
Password:
Last login: Mon May  5 10:13:57 2008
Linux Luke.wa9als.com 2.6.18-6-686 #1 SMP Thu Apr 24 08:33:59 UTC 2008 i686

The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

(I also have the output of dpkg-reconfigure below, then the apt-get output:

Luke:~# dpkg-reconfigure apt
gpg: key 2D230C5F: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2006)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed
gpg: key 6070D3A1: "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (4.0/etch)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed
gpg: key ADB11277: "Etch Stable Release Key
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" not changed
gpg: key BBE55AB3: "Debian-Volatile Archive Automatic Signing Key
(4.0/etch)" not changed
gpg: Total number processed: 4
gpg:  unchanged: 4


Luke:~# apt-get update
Err http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'www.backports.org'
Ign http://www.backports.org etch-backports Release
Ign http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages
Err http://www.backports.org etch-backports/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'www.backports.org'
Err http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile Release
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages
Err http://volatile.debian.org etch/volatile/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch Release
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
Err http://ftp.us.debian.org etch/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg
  Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
Err http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
  Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/Release.gpg
 Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release.gpg  Could not
resolve 'security.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile/Release.gpg
 Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/Release.gpg
Could not resolve 'www.backports.org'
Failed to fetch
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/etch-backports/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'www.backports.org'
Failed to fetch
http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/dists/etch/volatile/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'volatile.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/etch/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'ftp.us.debian.org'
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
 Could not resolve 'security.debian.org'
Reading package lists... Done
E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.
Luke:~#

Thanks - John


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Re: Errors on upgrading from etch to lenny

2008-05-05 Thread Brian McKee


On 3-May-08, at 2:07 PM, Florian Kulzer wrote:


On Sat, May 03, 2008 at 10:28:33 -0700, Francesco Pietra wrote:


May I ask how to resolve errors (sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned
error code 1) about

exim4-daemon-light
at
exim4
bsd-mailx
mailx

as the result of upgrading i386 from etch to lenny. Can't find which
program is affected (mail from gnome, ssh, in situ compiled graphic
programs, programs driven by wine, all OK).


We need to see the complete error message; the part that you posted  
does

not give us any clue as to why dpkg failed.

Run "apt-get install -f" or "aptitude install -f" (whichever you  
prefer)

and post the full output that you get.


FWIW,  I had trouble on the weekend going from etch to lenny as well.
Some of it was self-inflicted, so when I had this problem I assumed  
it was as well.


There was an error when it tried to configure exim4-daemon-light

My 'fix' was aptitude install postfix :-)   If I'd have known it  
wasn't my fault I'd have filed a bug.


Brian


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locking screen after suspend/hibernate

2008-05-05 Thread Jose Rodriguez
I want my screen to be locked when resuming from
suspend/hibernate. I don't use any desktop environment, so I
tried uncommented the following line
from /etc/hibernate/common.conf :

LockXtrLock yes

and installed xtrlock. This does nothing, though. A little
script on resume would do just fine, I suppose but I don't know how
to make hibernate to call it. 

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Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-05-05 Thread Jens Seidel
On Thu, May 01, 2008 at 05:20:32PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote:
> As I have written, I have nearly  20 TByte  of  Debian  packages  on  my
> mirror and only accidently killet the /debian/dists/ directory with  all
> its Packages.gz, Sources.gz, Release and releases.gpg files.
> 
> I have all downloaded I  have  found  and  arround  16%  of  the  mirror
> (generaly the last releses) restored.  What I am missing, are the  LISTS
> of the packages from the Sub-Releases like r0, r1, ...

You can use the jigdo files such as debian-40r2-i386-DVD-1.jigdo from
http://www.debian.co.il/debian-cd/4.0_r2/i386/jigdo-dvd/ or
http://ftp.pwr.wroc.pl/debian-iso/4.0_r1/i386/jigdo-dvd/debian-40r1-i386-DVD-1.jigdo
to extract this information. jigdo files are just gzipped text files.

At least for the 4.0 release you should be able to find jigdo files ...
I think I can send you also some older releases such as Woody in a
private mail. Have to dig ...

Jens


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Re: swap partition question?

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: ISHWAR RATTAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I have a 1Gb primary swap partition (/dev/sda1)
>and fdisk -l shows that.

fdisk read the partition table from the disk, but the kernel data can be
seen in /proc/partitions (it is read at boot time)

> # swapon /dev/sda1
>says that ..:/dev/sda1: is invalid argument.

what about

file -s /dev/sda1

?

If "grep sda1 /proc/partitions" shows the expected result, try
mkswap /dev/sda1
before
swapon /dev/sda1


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Re: swap partition question?

2008-05-05 Thread Jochen Schulz
ISHWAR RATTAN:
> 
> I have a 1Gb primary swap partition (/dev/sda1)
> and fdisk -l shows that. But the command
> 
>  # swapon /dev/sda1
> 
> says that ..:/dev/sda1: is invalid argument.

Did you create a "swap filesystem" on the partition?

# mkswap /dev/sda1 && swapon -a

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Re: swap partition question?

2008-05-05 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/05/08 08:17, ISHWAR RATTAN wrote:
> 
> I have a 1Gb primary swap partition (/dev/sda1)
> and fdisk -l shows that. But the command
> 
>  # swapon /dev/sda1
> 
> says that ..:/dev/sda1: is invalid argument.
> I made an entry in /etc/fstab (too):
>  /dev/sda1  none  swap sw 0 0
> 
> but swapon -a still syays that it is invalid argument!
> 
> Any pointers?

Have you "formatted" the partition with mkswap?

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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Gregory Seidman
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 12:58:25AM -0400, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tend to print out a lot of documentation on the software for projects
> that I work on. Therefore I go through alot of laserjet cartidges on my
> postscript compatible hp laserjet 1200 printer.
> 
> My latest cartridge just needs to be replaced again.
> 
> I am tired of paying so much money for the new laser ink cartiridges each 
> time.
> 
> I have read recently a wall street analyst say that 
> 'consumers are stupid - they buy printers by the cost of hardware
> not total cost of ownership'.
> 
> are there any truly cheaper approaches? Can we buy a postscript laserprinter
> that is not designed to use proprietary cartridges that we must
> buy from the company at inflated prices?
[...]

If you insist on laser, I got nothing. If you'll go inkjet, I can recommend
continuous flow systems. The idea is that you don't use the expensive, tiny
cartridges, but use large bottles of ink attached to the print head via
tubes instead. You can buy the ink in very large bottles, and at good
prices. I've been quite happy with mine. See
http://mediastreet.com/site/n2.html

> Mitchell
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Re: Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>The problem seems to be specific to apt-get and aptitude.

then check apt configuration files in /etc/apt/ and subdirectories
(proxy or other unusual configuration settings? corrupted files?)

And post the complete and exact outpt of apt-get / aptitude


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swap partition question?

2008-05-05 Thread ISHWAR RATTAN


I have a 1Gb primary swap partition (/dev/sda1)
and fdisk -l shows that. But the command

 # swapon /dev/sda1

says that ..:/dev/sda1: is invalid argument.
I made an entry in /etc/fstab (too):
 /dev/sda1  none  swap sw 0 0

but swapon -a still syays that it is invalid argument!

Any pointers?
-ishwar


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Re: Not sure who this should be sent too.....?

2008-05-05 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Fri, May 02, 2008 at 09:51:01AM +0200, Nyizsnyik Ferenc wrote:

Hi,

> > I get this error message when trying to open a recent document in LyX

[..]

> See also:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=478998
> (So you don't need to report it anywhere.)

The right report is #475523 which is already solved with the -2 package in
unstable. We're just waiting for arm, mips and ppc buildds to build the package
so that it can migrate to testing.

So the solution for most users will be to wait a month or use the already
build packages from unstable.

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Cannot partition a hard drive with the Etch installer

2008-05-05 Thread Ken Heard
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I am trying to install Etch in a new box which has an Intel dual core
CPU and a 250 gB SATA hard drive.  Since the instructions in the Etch
Installation Guide have not been helpful, I was consequently left with
my intuition, which unfortunately proved insufficient for me
successfully to complete the partitioning.

What I wanted to do is create a two primary partitions. One (sda1) of
82.2 mB would be for /boot partition. The other (sda2), comprising all
the remaining space on the hard drive, would be the one and only
physical volume (for the time being) of the LVM, which in turn would be
used for the one and only volume group in the system, named SOL.

In this volume group I wanted to create six logical volumes of varying
sizes, labelled home, root, swap1, tmp, usr and var.  Of those six
logical volumes, I want two of them (swap1 and home) to be encrypted.

After I created those two primary partitions and the logical volumes I
wanted, the partition overview screen showed the following:

- 
LVM VG SOL, LV home - 223.1 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 223.1 gB
LVM VG SOL, LV root - 3.2 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 3.2 gB
LVM VG SOL, LV swap1 - 3.2 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 3.2 gB
LVM VG SOL, LV tmp - 1.1 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 1.1 gB
LVM VG SOL, LV usr - 16.1 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 16.1 gB
LVM VG SOL, LV var - 3.2 gB Linux Device Mapper
#1 3.2 gB
SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 250.1 gB ATA WDC WD2500AAJS.0
#1 primary  82.2 mB B F ext3 /boot
#2 primary 250.0 gB   K lvm

Undo changes to the partitions.
Finish partitioning and write changes to disk.
- -

When I selected the "Finish" option, the following was returned:

No root file system is defined.
Please correct this from the partitioning menu.

I went back to the partitioning menu but could find no way to indicate
where to mount each logical volume, nor to indicate which volumes were
to be encrypted.

My question: can I do what I want to do and -- if so -- how?

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Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:49:59AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On a recently restored etch server, I can't apt-get update because it
> can't resolve anything in my sources.list, e.g. ftp.us.debian.org.
> Right after I did a fresh etch install, update worked fine, but now
> after restoring my previous files, it doesn't.  If I try to INSTALL a
> package instead of UPDATE, I get a different problem.  It warns me
> that it won't be able to authenticate the files.
> 
> I'm at a loss here - Can someone explain or direct me to where to look
> for the problem?

Did you nstalled resolvconf?  Is it working fine.

What does /etc/resolv.conf say?

Osamu


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Re: Clearing SWAP

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 03:52:27PM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> I was just trying to show another way of solving the problems.

and this is a good thing

>  My presumption was that cron was part of the LSB.

it might wery well be so, but one can disable it (in my workstation it
is installed to satify dependencies, but it does not run at boot nor in
this moment). On the contray, one cannot disable the pid=1 process
 
> It also got around the problem somebody asked, what to do if the Xserver
> crashed on startup,

the corrresponging thing with the inittab method is to not use respawn
or to not use a fully automated login (as I have already explained). One
can also use a respawn login, but without -f (so that inserting a
password is still required)

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[OT] SkyDSL in Europe

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello,

In the place where I life (very mobile), I can not get ADSL  or  even  a
telephone line without paying 17.300 Euro  to  the  German  Telecom  for
installing 5km telephone cabel or 12.000 Euro in Frace to the Telecom to
install 4km telephone cable.

Using GSM is limited to the contry where you have gotten  the  SIM  card
like:

Germany:O2  25 Euro/month, 5000 MByte, up to 7.2 MBit/sec
France: Bouygues15 Euro/month,  200 MByte, up to 200 kBit/sec
France: SFR 35 Euro/month,  500 MByte, up to 1.8 MBit/sec
Turkey: Turkcell~16 Euro/MByte, EDGE, up to 200 kBit/sec

So there are no durable solution, where currently I am using O2 since  I
live in the near of the German/French frontier.

Since  can not legaly permit me to use there SkyDSL
in France (even if they use Astra) I am fsck'ed up. (only DE, CH, AT)

Hey, Yato (256/64kBit) would cost me  only  295 Euro  for  the  complete
receiver, 99 Euro for the setup and pre-payed for 24 month 475.20 Euro
which would be 869.20 Euro or 36.21 Euro/month.

So, If someone know an inexpensive "PrePay" SkyDSL Provider which I  can
use in Germany, France, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greek and  maybe  Turkey
and morocco, please let me know.

Does anyone have experience with Tiscali from Italy?

Note:   My mobile DataCanter is equiped with a 240cm Automatic
parabole and getting ANY european TV and communication
satelits from Europe in North-Africa or the  Near-East
is no problem.
 
And NO, the provider  is NO solution even  if
"GlobalStorm 900" would fit my needs several times.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
Michelle Konzack
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Re: Replace Ubuntu with Debian

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-29 22:40:22, schrieb Igor:
> I just noticed an unfortunate circumstance, though. Dell installed a
> 32-bit OS on my 64-bit machine. In my opinion, that is a rather dumb
> thing to do. It also means that I might have to also figure out a way
> to migrate to a 64-bit environment. I'm not quite sure how to go about
> that yet. So, suggestions still welcome.

This is not SO dumb, since there are several problems with "amd64" which
do not appear in "i386" (think of flashplugin and I have  some  problems
with OOo under amd64)

Since Dell WANT to sell the Laptop WITH GNU/Linux, they have  to  choose
the distribution and ARCHITECTURE  which  work  perfectly  from  scratch
which is in there case definitivly NOT "amd64".

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Re: [OT] Need old Packages.gz and Release Files

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-28 20:21:34, schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
> > If you have for example the ORIGINAL CDs/DVD's of 3.1r4 I can build  the
> > package tree from there since I have all original packages I only do not
> > know which packages went included in the releases...
> 
> Did anyone mention http://archive.debian.org/README yet?

Yes, but the lists are not complete.

> If you get the Packages.gz, Release and Release.gpg files from a
> CD/DVD set then you can verify them individually with the debian
> archive key from that time and then merge them into a full list and
> sign with your own key. You don't have to download anything from
> archive.debian.net if you have those index file.

As I have written, I have nearly  20 TByte  of  Debian  packages  on  my
mirror and only accidently killet the /debian/dists/ directory with  all
its Packages.gz, Sources.gz, Release and releases.gpg files.

I have all downloaded I  have  found  and  arround  16%  of  the  mirror
(generaly the last releses) restored.  What I am missing, are the  LISTS
of the packages from the Sub-Releases like r0, r1, ...

Since I have ONLY original Debian packages and trust them because it  is
a private Non-Public mirror (up to now) I need only the Lists  with  the
files with its version numbers which went in the Sub-Releases to  create
the Symlinks and generate the NEW Packages.gz and Sources.gz files.

Since I can not use the original GPG-Key I sign the Release  files  with
MY GPG-Key to be sure, no one else after me has modified it.

OK, there are peoples using my  mirror,  BUT THEY TRUST MY KEY  even  if
they have not signed it, because we have never meet us personaly.

Note:   If I do bad things, peoples will find it out very fast,
and my business is ancien history...

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GPRS/EDGE PCMCIA/MiniPCI card working perfectly with Debian

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack

*   Do not Cc: me, because I READ THIS LIST, if I write here   *
*Keine Cc: am mich, ich LESE DIESE LISTE wenn ich hier schreibe*


Hello,

since my "Nokia 6120 classic" is  screwing  me  up,  please  can  anyone
recommend a perfect workin PCMCIA and a MiniPCI card for my  Laptop  and
my Router?

I mean, a used card would be enough  and  I  should  get  it  from  eBay
Germany or someone here which do not use it anymore.

I need it only to get my messages out of my Mailboxes and respond in  an
acceptable delay...  Going 2-3 times per week in  a  Internet  cafe  and
downloadig tonns (20-100 MBytes) of messages (I get arround 3500 legitim
message per day) is annoying...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Douglas and *,

Am 2008-04-29 22:35:15, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty:
> You may wish to consider an industrial-quality compact flash drive.  The
> CF adapter plugs in just like a drive and the I-Q CF cards come with a 5
> year warranty and testing by OpenBSD-types (who do a lot of embedded
> devices using CF cards) shows that for many uses they are very reliable.

I am using SanDisk Extereme III and bought recently the Extreme IV.

Both in the 4 and 8 GByte variant.  I have put my whole OS on it and  it
seems to be faster then my older PATA drive,  which  should  do  arround
52 MByte/sec.

/tmp is in tmpfs.

/var is put into tmpfs too, but stored on  a  second  CF  card  (1 GByte
SanDisk Ultra IV) to  be  uncompressed  on  boot-up  and  compressed  on
shutdown.

Some directories like /var/cache/apt/archives are excluded and the files
from /var/log are not numbered but dated which make it easy to  back  it
up to another medium whithout lossing the  sequence.  Ok,  if  you  have
place on a fileserver or something like this, you can use "syslog-ng" to
log over your network.

But realy, CF-Cards are the real solution for silent and cold computers.

Oh yes, since my new combinated NFS-, Courier- and PostgreSQL-Server  is
using fiveteen 300 GByte SCSI-Drives for datas, I have put the OS  on  a
CF-Card too and the whole Server is not in my room... (it is  loud  like
an airport even with special silent cases)

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Re: /dev/null > /dev/sdb1 !

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-25 17:08:30, schrieb Bob McGowan:
> By the "definition", if you will, used in the Readme.txt, that the 
> utility writes zeros to the disk, and given that the appropriate dd 
> command can be said to do the same, I'm left wondering as well about 
> just exactly what this tool is doing.

It does NOT only write zero's to the Disk but it test the sectors and
then auto-remap faulty sectors and after the test, it will write into
the NVRAM of the Disk some informations that the  Low-Level  formated
drive looks like a NEWLY bougth drive without any errors  (if  enough
free sectors are found for remaping)

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Re: "Nokia 6120 classic" and Internet connection with laptop

2008-05-05 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2008-04-30 10:36:09, schrieb Douglas A. Tutty:
> Do you have Etch install media (e.g. CD) and do you have access to a
> computer with a CD and a USB (and a USB stick)?  You could make a
> USB-stick install to run on your laptop.

Next week I will even get a package of 10 new Hitachi E5K160 drives
which I can connect to my external USB/SATA controler to  bootstrap
Etch or Lenny.

My biggest problem is that I can not go into the Internet with  the
Nokia anymore...  Maybe I should get a cheap GSM/GPRS  PCMCIA  card
which schould work but which should I use?

On eBay I have found over 140 different  GSM  cards  availlable  to
France or Germany.

Note: I do not raly care about speed, since I need the GSM modem
  generaly to get my 3500 messages and send arround  150-200
  responses per day and since I have up to 5000MByte traffic
  per month for 25 Euro...

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day
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Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 5/5/08, NN_il_Confusionario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >On a recently restored etch server, I can't apt-get update because it
> >can't resolve anything in my sources.list, e.g. ftp.us.debian.org.
>
> (1) check the correctness of /etc/resolv.conf

I have:
nameserver 64.105.189.27
nameserver 64.105.179.139

(has always worked for me)

> (2) correct /etc/resolv.conf and then try again
> If you have no idea, try using opendns:
> 208.67.222.222
> 208.67.220.220

Doesn't make any difference.

> getent hosts ftp.us.debian.org
> getent hosts security.debian.org
> getent hosts www.google.com
> getent hosts www.wikipedia.org

Those return the expected results!

The problem seems to be specific to apt-get and aptitude.

- John


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Re: Most inexpensive debian friendly laserjet printer? total cost of ownership including laserink?

2008-05-05 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 05/04/08 23:58, Mitchell Laks wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tend to print out a lot of documentation on the software for projects
> that I work on. Therefore I go through alot of laserjet cartidges on my
> postscript compatible hp laserjet 1200 printer.
> 
> My latest cartridge just needs to be replaced again.
> 
> I am tired of paying so much money for the new laser ink cartiridges each 
> time.
>
> I have read recently a wall street analyst say that 
> 'consumers are stupid - they buy printers by the cost of hardware
> not total cost of ownership'.
> 
> are there any truly cheaper approaches? Can we buy a postscript laserprinter
> that is not designed to use proprietary cartridges that we must
> buy from the company at inflated prices?

I bought a Dell 3100cn color laser printer for US$300, and am *very*
happy with it. But the reason I bought it is that we don't print a
lot, and ink dries up in the cartridge, whereas toner doesn't.

So our situations are obviously not very comparable.  Still, though,
I think this is definitely a possibility you should research.

> Also while we are at it, any suggestions on what I can use
> in place of gasoline in my car :)?

Of all the fuels that are liquid at room temperature (and thus
easily transportable and storable without special equipment)
gasoline and petrodiesel have the highest energy densities.  (And
biodiesel has more energy than ethanol.)

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Re: Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On a recently restored etch server, I can't apt-get update because it
>can't resolve anything in my sources.list, e.g. ftp.us.debian.org.

(1) check the correctness of /etc/resolv.conf

(2) correct /etc/resolv.conf and then try again
If you have no idea, try using opendns:
208.67.222.222
208.67.220.220

(3) as a temporary last resort put a suitable line in /etc/hosts given that

 host -a ftp.us.debian.org
ftp.us.debian.org   A   35.9.37.225
ftp.us.debian.org   A   64.50.236.52
ftp.us.debian.org   A   64.50.238.52
ftp.us.debian.org   A   128.30.2.36

 getent hosts security.debian.org
212.211.132.32  security.debian.org
212.211.132.250 security.debian.org
128.31.0.36 security.debian.org
130.89.175.54   security.debian.org

If nothing seem to help: what is your output of

getent hosts ftp.us.debian.org
getent hosts security.debian.org
getent hosts www.google.com
getent hosts www.wikipedia.org

?

>Right after I did a fresh etch install, update worked fine, but now
>after restoring my previous files, it doesn't.

it is possible that your restore method is not so good.


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Re: Re: Barry? Also berry_charge

2008-05-05 Thread NN_il_Confusionario
> * From: Carl Fink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:50:48AM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
>> grep berry_charge /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep ; \
>> depmod -a ; \
>> grep berry_charge /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep ; \
>> modprobe berry_charge
>
>"FATAL: Module berry_charge not found."

and what about

find /lib/modules/ -iname \*berry\*

and then 

insmod $THE_COMPLETE_PATH_FOUND_AS_ABOVE

(if there is a module in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ which probably is not
true given the depmod -a result above)


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Can't resolve ftp.us.debian.org

2008-05-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On a recently restored etch server, I can't apt-get update because it
can't resolve anything in my sources.list, e.g. ftp.us.debian.org.
Right after I did a fresh etch install, update worked fine, but now
after restoring my previous files, it doesn't.  If I try to INSTALL a
package instead of UPDATE, I get a different problem.  It warns me
that it won't be able to authenticate the files.

I'm at a loss here - Can someone explain or direct me to where to look
for the problem?

Thanks - John


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Re: Barry? Also berry_charge

2008-05-05 Thread Carl Fink
On Mon, May 05, 2008 at 07:50:48AM +0200, NN_il_Confusionario wrote:

> grep berry_charge /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep ; \
> depmod -a ; \
> grep berry_charge /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep ; \
> modprobe berry_charge

"FATAL: Module berry_charge not found."
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