Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Mark Allums put forth on 3/8/2010 1:05 AM: > On 3/8/2010 12:43 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Look into XFS for desktop use. You may be surprised at what is has to >> offer. I'm not saying jump right in, but at least do a little reading >> and >> see if it might be worth just testing for your uses. > > > Okay. However, why doesn't Debian install it by default? I'm not on the Debian team. You'd have to ask them. There are probably multiple reasons, not least of which is the fact that Debian has used an EXT FS variant since the beginning of time. You're also asking about a "default" install, which is geared for the masses. The masses already use ET2/3, so I guess it would make sense to maintain that for support reasons. Expert mode allows one to choose whatever filesystem(s) one desires, and I would guess that this is how most sysadmins worth some salt do it. This is how I do it anyway. > (Still rooting for btrfs and/or ZFS (-: ) Don't hold your breath for ZFS. It may never make its way into the Linux kernel. btrfs looks good so far on paper. Although it's so similar to XFS in most respects I'm surprised they bother. Choice is always good though, so carry on btrfs devs. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94a62f.2070...@hardwarefreak.com
how are debconf and dpkg-deb related?
hi, I am studying the Debian package management system. I am having trouble figuring out how debconf and dpkg-deb are related. Heres how i understand the package management system: dpkg-deb does the actual installation/removal of packages dpkg is a frontend to dpkg-deb apt is front end to dpkg Synaptic,aptitude etc are frontends to apt. So where exactly does debconf fit in? thanks in advance
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/8/2010 12:43 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Look into XFS for desktop use. You may be surprised at what is has to offer. I'm not saying jump right in, but at least do a little reading and see if it might be worth just testing for your uses. Okay. However, why doesn't Debian install it by default? (Still rooting for btrfs and/or ZFS (-: ) MAA (Living in Sid) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94a1d4.2030...@allums.com
Re: [Taking off-list] Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/8/2010 12:47 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-07 23:21, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 9:18 PM: Hans Reiser is a Bad Man, ergo any code that Hans Reiser writes is Bad? That's so illogical, it makes ma think you're a Republicrat. For an educated man you make many assumptions, many incorrectly. I didn't [snip] Uh, oops! (not offlist) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94a10c.5070...@allums.com
[Taking off-list] Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 2010-03-07 23:21, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 9:18 PM: Hans Reiser is a Bad Man, ergo any code that Hans Reiser writes is Bad? That's so illogical, it makes ma think you're a Republicrat. For an educated man you make many assumptions, many incorrectly. I didn't [snip] -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b949d71.3070...@cox.net
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Mark Allums put forth on 3/7/2010 9:05 PM: > Well, you undoubtedly have more experience than I with servers. JFS is > dying. XFS *is not* suitable for desktops, you are correct. I don't know if it is or isn't suitable for desktops. It was the default FS on Irix desktop workstations for over a decade until they were discontinued. So obviously it's not totally unsuitable for a Linux desktop. As long as one has a UPS and isn't running bleeding edge kernels, risking panics or crashes, one should be reasonably safe. I've been using Linux since around 1999/2000 and I've never had a system crash or panic. I've had a couple go down when batteries ran dry during long power outages and they came up fine. Although I was using EXT2 at the time. I doubt XFS would have fared any worse, given the machines had little load, and thus little chance of pending writes that wouldn't have been flushed. > I spend a lot of time experimenting, and a simple, stable FS is very > necessary for me. When everything comes apart, putting the pieces back > together is much easier when you can at least mount the filesystem. If you're living on the bleeding edge and crashing your system often, I'd guess you're probably better off not using XFS. > XFS is kind of specialized. That may have been true in the past before it was open sourced, when it was SGI proprietary. Since its inclusion in Linux, it is just as at home on a small business/personal server as on SGI's 2048 CPU Altix supercomputers: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 "Based on all testing done for this benchmark essay, XFS appears to be the most appropriate filesystem to install on a file server for home or small-business needs : * It uses the maximum capacity of your server hard disk(s) * It is the quickest FS to create, mount and unmount * It is the quickest FS for operations on large files (>500MB) * This FS gets a good second place for operations on a large number of small to moderate-size files and directories * It constitutes a good CPU vs time compromise for large directory listing or file search * It is not the least CPU demanding FS but its use of system ressources is quite acceptable for older generation hardware" > And I don't really know enough about it > myself to feel good about using it. So I will concede that perhaps it > is a better choice than Ext2/3/4 for your application, and certainly a > better choice for new installs than Reiser. Look into XFS for desktop use. You may be surprised at what is has to offer. I'm not saying jump right in, but at least do a little reading and see if it might be worth just testing for your uses. I'm on the XFS mailing list, and there are patch commits almost daily. This FS is in very active development today, even though it is already very mature. The same can be said of the Linux kernel. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b949c7f.6050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Emacs24?
* 2010-03-08 00:33 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > Yes, it's a real shame. We're also still waiting for Debian to put > Emacs-24 in unstable at least, so we can grab the source and release > it. But we've been waiting for so long that we're losing hope. We may > end up having to write the code ourselves :-( > Stefan "Emacs maintainer" :-) I think you guys are doing it well! Thanks for all the work, and by the way, my self-compiled Emacs 23.1.93 (pretest) works fine in my Debian Lenny system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vdd7finr@mithlond.arda
editing grub in lenny to boot from ext4 partition
Assuming Debian Lenny's installer will detect a Ubuntu 10.04 (daily build)
partition in my PC (debian = /dev/sda1, ubuntu = /dev/sda3), i installed
Lenny on sda1 but Ubuntu entry does not show up on GRUB.
# grub-install -v
grub-install (GNU GRUB 0.97)
so i proceed to edit grub taking example from Ubuntu's grub.cfg like below
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry "Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-15-generic" {
recordfail
insmod ext2
set root=(hd0,3)
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 76fe9a67-1168-4154-b994-4b466e92f7df
linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-15-generic
root=UUID=76fe9a67-1168-4154-b994-4b466e92f7df ro quiet splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-15-generic
and i came out with:
title Ubuntu, with Linux 2.6.32-15-generic
root(hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-15-generic root=/dev/sda3 ro quiet
splash
initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-15-generic
but i can't boot that partition, where did i go wrong or Lenny's version of
GRUB cannot boot from ext4 partition?
--
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Umarzuki Mochlis
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Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze
On 3/7/2010 10:40 PM, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard The non-OSE is only for specific bits, like USB support, which is not to my knowledge in QEMU, since it was added by Innotek or Sun. I think this is a legal matter, which I am not qualified to answer (and I haven't read anything about it.) I expect that Oracle will remove code from QEMU over time. I expect (and be delighted to be wrong about) that Sun and Oracle will fork VBox and close off the non-OSE version. This is pure speculation. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b948f92.1080...@allums.com
Re: Emacs24?
> Anyone know when emacs24 will be in Debian squeeze? The latest they > have is emacs23 :( Yes, it's a real shame. We're also still waiting for Debian to put Emacs-24 in unstable at least, so we can grab the source and release it. But we've been waiting for so long that we're losing hope. We may end up having to write the code ourselves :-( Stefan "Emacs maintainer" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvy6i3idmn.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: emacs transient-mark-mode
> When I set mark with C-SAPCE and then move cursor with > C-f C-b M-f M-b C-n C-p there is blue backgroun and > transient-mark-mode work as I am used to. But if I move > cursors with arrow keys or when I use C-x C-x to exchange > cursor and mark transient-mark-mode disapears. Doesn't sound like one of the known problems. Try it with "emacs -Q" first. Hopefully the problem won't appear there, so you can then try and see if it's a bad interaction with some part of your .emacs, or maybe something in Debian's packaging of Emacs. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwv4okrjskt.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 9:18 PM: > Hans Reiser is a Bad Man, ergo any code that Hans Reiser writes is Bad? > > That's so illogical, it makes ma think you're a Republicrat. For an educated man you make many assumptions, many incorrectly. I didn't say the code was bad because Reiser is a bad man. I said one of the reasons I wouldn't use ReiserFS is because its author is a convicted murderer. This has nothing to do with code, but supporting the work of a criminal. It's akin to not eating at a known Mafia owned/operated restaurant. The food is most likely fantastic, but I wouldn't eat there because of who owns the joint. I don't condone or support criminality. Novell, being headquartered in the Mormon capital of the world, Salt Lake City, Utah, announced the day Reiser was arrested (not convicted but arrested) that they were dropping ReiserFS as the default filesystem in SLED/SLES immediately, and would be moving to help permanently phase it out at customer sites ASAP. Obviously this latter part didn't happen over night as it was deployed on many production servers. Novell didn't do this because the code was bad. They did it because religious/political forces dictated they distance themselves asap from Hans Reiser, especially given competent (and some would argue better) alternatives were available. We haven't even touched the practical issues involved in continuing use of ReiserFS. This subject has been debated ad nauseam since his conviction on many fora. I'll not continue to waste time here. One great thing about Linux is choice. You can choose to support the work of a convicted murderer. I can choose not to. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94894f.2070...@hardwarefreak.com
Questions (was Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros ...)
On 2010-03-07 22:10, Mark wrote: I was just looking at the stats for this thread: 38 total replies (not counting the spinoff/individual replies), of which three were directly helpful responses (thank you Aioanei, Theirry and Bob) which led me to more specific Googling, which led to my ultimate solution. Have we lost our way a bit on this list? Only partly. Sometimes, the correct answer to an original question is, "Why the heck do you want to do something as stupid, useless, pointless as ?" Hopefully it leads OP to more deeply cogitate upon his original question, and either (a) realize his mistake or (b) further elucidate the problem by narrowing the focus or adding more details that weren't in the original problem statement. Otherwise, OP gets defensive and only in the middle of the thread do we learn interesting things like ReiserFS picking up formatted-over blocks. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9481af.60...@cox.net
Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:07 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a > lot of QEMU code in it. Interesting - does that pose any issues for the non-OSE Virtualbox, w.r.t. QEMU being GPL? Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1268023244.2157.1.ca...@diamond.lan.walnut.gen.nz
Re: [OT] Ron
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:32:20 -0600 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2010-03-07 21:25, Celejar wrote: > > On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:19:32 -0600 > > Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> Thanks. I was AWOL for 5-6 months, though. > > > > Sure were. And Doug's gone, Andrew and Paul appear but > > infrequently ... > > > > The "problem" is that Debian is just too stable for my limited needs. > ... from Ron's signature. "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka Sorry - I had to chuckle on this. Gotta love Ditka. -- Regards, Chris "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." -- Thomas Jefferson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307213734.08d89...@makeworld.com
Re: Bash "read" command: want to preload some data
Bash isn't strictly needed, plain Bourne shell works, using parameter
substitution
man sh | grep -A 2 -i "parameter:-"
${parameter:-word}
Use Default Values. If parameter is unset or null, the expansion of
word is substituted. Otherwise, the value of parameter is substituted.
So:
p=/foobar
read -p "gimme a dir or accept default ($p): " x
x=${x:-$p}
echo $x
...if the user hits it shows:
gimme a dir or accept default (/foobar):
/foobar
It's better to put that in a function:
input_dir() { p="${1:-/foobar}" ; read -p "gimme a dir or accept
default ($p): " x ; x=${x:-$p} ; echo $x ; }
This function can even take a parameter, if the default
dir needs to be changed on the fly:
% input_dir
gimme a dir or accept default (/foobar): /foobar2
/foobar2
# store results of routine in $x
% x=`input_dir /tmp`
gimme a dir or accept default (/tmp):
% echo $x
/tmp
(Debian's minimal 'dash' also has a 'read -i', so for
current Debian, the '-i' is universal. Earlier versions,
or other *nixs might not though.)
HTH...
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Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/7/2010 10:10 PM, Mark wrote: I was just looking at the stats for this thread: 38 total replies (not counting the spinoff/individual replies), of which three were directly helpful responses (thank you Aioanei, Theirry and Bob) which led me to more specific Googling, which led to my ultimate solution. Have we lost our way a bit on this list? There *is* an OT list, now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b947948.4000...@allums.com
Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. [snippage] Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. Oh, and Xen paravirtualizizes lots of things. QEMU has most of the KVM stuff built in, these days. MAA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b947918.9090...@allums.com
Re: MySQL upgrade failed PLEASE HELP!!!
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 15:22:01 -0500 (EST), Oscar Corte wrote: > > Just today I upgraded my Debian Lenny Server, many packages > were upgraded succesfully, but MySQL server wich is not working anymore. > > What can I do to restore MySQL server? > > Error messages shown are these: > > Starting MySQL database server: mysql . . . . . failed! > invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed. > dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.0 (--configure): > subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 > dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mysql-server: > mysql-server depends on mysql-server-5.0; however: > Package mysql-server-5.0 is not configured yet. > dpkg error: error processing mysql-server (--configure): > dependency problems - leaving unconfigured > > Thanks in advance for any advice One thing I forgot to mention in my first reply: Sometimes, if you happen to catch a mirror while it is in the process of updating, you may get a situation where two packages with dependencies on each other may be in an inconsistent state. For example, package A may be at the new level while package B is still at the old level. In these situations, aptitude update aptitude full-upgrade issued later, after the update is complete, may be all you need to solve the problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/656896445.17462561268021494515.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
I was just looking at the stats for this thread: 38 total replies (not counting the spinoff/individual replies), of which three were directly helpful responses (thank you Aioanei, Theirry and Bob) which led me to more specific Googling, which led to my ultimate solution. Have we lost our way a bit on this list?
Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze
On 3/7/2010 9:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. There are quite a few types of virtualization: o Emulation o Full o Paravirtualization o Kernel o Application o Container and quite a few more at least variations. Hypervisor plus Hardware Abstraction Layer plus Monitor plus multiple VMs is the current fashion for servers, and Xen will give you that. In Xen terms, the monitor is the dom0, and the multiple VMs are the domU's. o QEMU is emulation. o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel virtualization, you need hardware CPU support for it o kqemu is a kernel module accelerator with kernel virtualization, no hardware support needed, but it gives poor speed. QEMU more-or-less has KVM built into it since about version 0.10. Wikipedia has a lot of articles about virtualization, so I would go there for more. Mark Allums Go with Virtualbox unless you have some special need. Oh, and Virtualbox was originally based on QEMU, and there is still a lot of QEMU code in it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9477f5.1010...@allums.com
Re: Heads up for NVIDIA users
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > On 3/5/2010 3:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: >> >> On 3/5/2010 2:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: >>> >>> On 2010-03-05 20:49 +0100, Jason Filippou wrote: >>> I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the latest posts so I thought I'd post it: The latest proprietary linux driver on the NVIDIA website (195.36.08, URL: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_195.36.08.html), which I understand covers many more GPUs than my GT220 causes X to not be able to detect any screens when installed on my Squeeze box. I was fortunate enough to have the 190.53 driver on my hard disk and I reinstalled that, or else I'd have to either wget a hard-to-flawlessly-copy URL or force myself to learn how to use mount (which wouldn't be a bad thing, in retrospect). Anyways, I'd recommend waiting for the next driver and I'm probably reporting this on their website. >>> >>> For the record, this driver also has fan control problems, and Nvidia >>> has withdrawn it: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/announcement.php?a=39. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> >> >> The two drivers aren't the same. The fan issue on Windows is a different >> version than the one OP is having trouble with. >> >> However, beware: the Windows driver is de-certified and withdrawn. >> NVIDIA recommends downgrading. > > > It turns out that NVIDIA have since also withdrawn the recent Linux drivers > as well, and recommend downgrading. > > The current NVIDIA Linux blob seems to be 190.53. (Previously, they had > released 195.36.08, as Jason mentioned.) I've been using 195.36.03 (a beta release) for several weeks without problems. 190.53 is the current non-beta release. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a94352371003072001t572c141bg918b541a35788...@mail.gmail.com
Re: qemu or qemu-kvm for kvm in squeeze
On 3/4/2010 6:41 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/4/2010 4:49 PM, Martin Kraus wrote: Hi. I have been wondering what is the difference between qemu and qemu-kvm packages for kvm virtualization. Manual page in qemu packages shows, that it should be able to work with kvm. Uncle google is silent about this. thanks for clarification mk Earlier, I wrote what I think was a confusing reply to this. There are quite a few types of virtualization: o Emulation o Full o Paravirtualization o Kernel o Application o Container and quite a few more at least variations. Hypervisor plus Hardware Abstraction Layer plus Monitor plus multiple VMs is the current fashion for servers, and Xen will give you that. In Xen terms, the monitor is the dom0, and the multiple VMs are the domU's. o QEMU is emulation. o Virtualbox is Full virtualization. o QEMU+KVM is a funny beast, it is paravirtualization with kernel virtualization, you need hardware CPU support for it o kqemu is a kernel module accelerator with kernel virtualization, no hardware support needed, but it gives poor speed. QEMU more-or-less has KVM built into it since about version 0.10. Wikipedia has a lot of articles about virtualization, so I would go there for more. Mark Allums Go with Virtualbox unless you have some special need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9475f3.8020...@allums.com
Re: Heads up for NVIDIA users
On 3/5/2010 3:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: On 3/5/2010 2:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: On 2010-03-05 20:49 +0100, Jason Filippou wrote: I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the latest posts so I thought I'd post it: The latest proprietary linux driver on the NVIDIA website (195.36.08, URL: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_195.36.08.html), which I understand covers many more GPUs than my GT220 causes X to not be able to detect any screens when installed on my Squeeze box. I was fortunate enough to have the 190.53 driver on my hard disk and I reinstalled that, or else I'd have to either wget a hard-to-flawlessly-copy URL or force myself to learn how to use mount (which wouldn't be a bad thing, in retrospect). Anyways, I'd recommend waiting for the next driver and I'm probably reporting this on their website. For the record, this driver also has fan control problems, and Nvidia has withdrawn it: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/announcement.php?a=39. Sven The two drivers aren't the same. The fan issue on Windows is a different version than the one OP is having trouble with. However, beware: the Windows driver is de-certified and withdrawn. NVIDIA recommends downgrading. It turns out that NVIDIA have since also withdrawn the recent Linux drivers as well, and recommend downgrading. The current NVIDIA Linux blob seems to be 190.53. (Previously, they had released 195.36.08, as Jason mentioned.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946f9e.8070...@allums.com
Re: [OT] Ron
On 2010-03-07 21:25, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:19:32 -0600 Ron Johnson wrote: ... Thanks. I was AWOL for 5-6 months, though. Sure were. And Doug's gone, Andrew and Paul appear but infrequently ... The "problem" is that Debian is just too stable for my limited needs. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946fc4.5030...@cox.net
Re: [OT] Ron
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:19:32 -0600 Ron Johnson wrote: ... > Thanks. I was AWOL for 5-6 months, though. Sure were. And Doug's gone, Andrew and Paul appear but infrequently ... Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307222529.5b50cb59.cele...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Ron
On 2010-03-07 20:43, Celejar wrote: On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:30:03 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 1:33 AM: AKA /argumentum ad Hitlerum/. Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is wrong. It's probably very safe to say you just lost any respect you had on this list by using a Hitler analogy. The analogy wasn't even relevant to boot. Ron's an established presence here. While he may be a bit blunt sometimes, we're used to him. [Full disclosure: Ron and I have been allies in various, uh, contentious disputes in the past.] Thanks. I was AWOL for 5-6 months, though. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946cc4.4080...@cox.net
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 2010-03-07 20:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 1:33 AM: AKA /argumentum ad Hitlerum/. Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism is wrong. It's probably very safe to say you just lost any respect you had on this list by using a Hitler analogy. The analogy wasn't even relevant to boot. Hitler didn't create vegetarianism. Hans Reiser created the ReiserFS. Apples to oranges comparison. Should I instead have written "Association fallacy"? [QUOTE]An association fallacy is an inductive informal fallacy of the type hasty generalization or red herring which asserts that qualities of one thing are inherently qualities of another, merely by an irrelevant association.[/QUOTE] Hans Reiser is a Bad Man, ergo any code that Hans Reiser writes is Bad? That's so illogical, it makes ma think you're a Republicrat. And when your machine crashes with unflushed data still in cache, splat goes your xfs partition. Been there, seen that. If this is your only argument against XFS, you may as well not even make it. It merely makes you look a fool. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946c77.1060...@cox.net
Re: Rer: Two Lenny problems
On 3/7/2010 8:58 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: r (3) try to get a proprietary nVidia driver for Lenny to work with your card. There are proprietary drivers available. From reading the list, people either swear by them or swear at them. When they work, they generally work really well, but they break easily with, for example, security updates to the system. They work well, but they must be reinstalled with every kernel update, and every update to X. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946bcc.70...@allums.com
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/7/2010 8:46 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Mark Allums put forth on 3/7/2010 6:17 PM: ReiserFS is okay. *Was* okay. I wouldn't use it *now*.But I find it curious that your chosen alternative is XFS. I find it interesting that you find my choice "curious", given that you avoid the two oldest and most mature *nix journaling filesystems available, XFS and JFS. And XFS has more tools and instrumentation available on Linux than any filesystem. Maybe this difference of opinion is application specific. I only use Linux for servers, not desktops. XFS/JFS weren't designed with the desktop/laptop in mind, but high performance servers. These filesystems may not be a good fit for desktop/laptop use. I've never attempted it and have no experience with it, so I have no opinion. However, for server use, they can't be beat. Well, you undoubtedly have more experience than I with servers. JFS is dying. XFS *is not* suitable for desktops, you are correct. I spend a lot of time experimenting, and a simple, stable FS is very necessary for me. When everything comes apart, putting the pieces back together is much easier when you can at least mount the filesystem. XFS is kind of specialized. And I don't really know enough about it myself to feel good about using it. So I will concede that perhaps it is a better choice than Ext2/3/4 for your application, and certainly a better choice for new installs than Reiser. M. Allums (Still hoping btrfs will turn out to be viable. Linus uses it.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946967.6000...@allums.com
Re: Rer: Two Lenny problems
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 07:08:32 -0500 (EST), Cecil Knutson wrote: > > I did nothing about your last email because I didn't see it until after I > had made the last change, but, yes, the last Lenny install was to the 8400 > with a different audio card. Now the 8400 has Windows 7 Ultimate on it > with the original Creative SB Live! audio card and the original HD. Sound > did not work at first, but does now after downloading drivers for the > SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio and the SB Live! 24-bit. So, the > hardware works. Is it a lack of proper drivers for Lenny? At this point, that would be my guess. > FYI: the first > three attempts to install Windows 7 failed at the point of "Starting > Windows", so I started an install of Windows XP, stopped it because the SB > card was not connected to the front headphone jack. After connecting it, > I started Windows 7 again thinking it would have all the necessary > drivers. The fourth install proceeded without a glitch. Weird, huh? > What does a headphone connection have to do with installing the OS? That's weird all right. > Right > now, I am inclined to leave Windows 7 on the 8400 and put Lenny on the > Fujitsu, just to use more partitions on the 1.5TB drive. But, at the > partitioning part of the last Lenny installation, I noticed that even the > "manual" option of the partitioning scheme only offered five separate > partitions. What did I miss? I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that the installer does not recognize existing partitions already on the hard disk? Or are you saying that it won't let you create more than five partitions during installation? Or are you saying that only five different mount points were offered? > It also caused me to reconsider the > usefulness of more than five partitions on a Linux system. With the ext3 > journaling file system of Lenny, what advantage is there to more than five > partitions? In my typical installs, I create four partitions: /, /boot, /home, and swap. I keep /home in a separate partition to isolate user data files from the operating system. That way, I can reformat the OS partition and not touch user data files (except data files belonging to the root user, which are stored in /root instead of /home/root). There can be situations where it is advantageous to keep /boot separate too. For example, on really old machines with a really old BIOS (no LBA support) and when using the LILO boot loader, the kernel image and initial RAM disk image have to be within the first 1024 cylinders for the boot loader to load them. That is rarely a problem anymore. But on other platforms, there can still be a reason to do it. For example, on the s390 platform the /boot partition cannot use the dasd_diag_mod driver. Everything else can. Therefore, that is one reason to segregate the /boot partition. And of course swap has to be separate. Sometimes you might want to split out /var/log to keep log files from consuming the whole file system or split out /tmp to limit the number of temporary files. > And is there any advantage to installing LVM? On the S390 platform, a typical 3390-3 DASD device is about 2.3G. If you want a partition larger than this you can use LVM to create a logical partition which consists of multiple physical partitions, and you can keep adding space as necessary. There are other uses for it, I'm sure, but that is my primary experience with it. > Another > consideration is the appearance of "window trails" (similar to laptop > "pointer trails") when Lenny was on the Fujitsu. There is an EVGA 8400GS > video card in the Fujitsu. It is little more than a year old and was > bought because the video slot in the Fujitsu is the PCI Express type and I > had no card that would fit it. It uses an nVidia GeForce 8400 GS video > processor. What would have to be done to eliminate the trails? Check out the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file to see what driver is being used. I would normally expect the "nv" driver to be used by default on an nVidia card. But if the card is too new for the video chipset to be recognized by the driver, it may be falling back to vesa. The nv driver generally supports 2D acceleration, but I'm not so sure that the vesa driver does. If that is the case, your three main options are (1) upgrade to a newer set of xorg packages from lenny-backports, (2) install Squeeze, or (3) try to get a proprietary nVidia driver for Lenny to work with your card. There are proprietary drivers available. >From reading the list, people either swear by them or swear at them. When they work, they generally work really well, but they break easily with, for example, security updates to the system. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/433116884.17451721268017080527.javamail.r...@md01.wo
OT by now: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/7/2010 7:40 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2010-03-07 19:21, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 18:42 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. What, just drill a hole in it? That will only affect a small part of the disk. I think our sysadmin team has a large log-splitting axe - much more satisfying :-) I'd vote for melting down the platters :-) Many platters are now made of glass a ceramic. A swift whack on the side of a table should do the trick. If not, a likewise swift whack from a claw hammer should shatter it into a jillion pieces. If the platter is aluminum, then a belt sander or grinding drill bit will take care of things. I have actually drilled a few holes, then submerged the drive under water for a week (with a little salt added to speed up the corrosion.) But this is extreme (and eco-unfriendly). Why? well, as an experiment, mostly. I don't have anything (but a credit card number or two) to hide. (I don't encrypt or lock anything away, either.) I just like to fiddle around. I disassemble old drives usually, in order to extract the magnets. They're fun to play with. M. Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9466b3.7020...@allums.com
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Richard Hector put forth on 3/7/2010 7:21 PM: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 18:42 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > >> If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. > > What, just drill a hole in it? That will only affect a small part of the > disk. > > I think our sysadmin team has a large log-splitting axe - much more > satisfying :-) > > I'd vote for melting down the platters :-) A large bar magnet is just as effective as any of these methods, and is cheap. Throw the platter on it and let it sit there for a day or two. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9465e6.8090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Mark Allums put forth on 3/7/2010 6:17 PM: > ReiserFS is okay. *Was* okay. I wouldn't use it *now*.But I find > it curious that your chosen alternative is XFS. > > Mark Allums > > > Ext4 is usable, provided one doesn't ever need to rescue. Current live > CDs don't support it well (or mdRAID, or LVM2, either). So I use Ext3, > and will continue to do so until either btrFS or ZFS is usable (and > well-supported). I find it interesting that you find my choice "curious", given that you avoid the two oldest and most mature *nix journaling filesystems available, XFS and JFS. And XFS has more tools and instrumentation available on Linux than any filesystem. Maybe this difference of opinion is application specific. I only use Linux for servers, not desktops. XFS/JFS weren't designed with the desktop/laptop in mind, but high performance servers. These filesystems may not be a good fit for desktop/laptop use. I've never attempted it and have no experience with it, so I have no opinion. However, for server use, they can't be beat. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b946502.9090...@hardwarefreak.com
[OT] Ron
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:30:03 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 1:33 AM: > > > AKA /argumentum ad Hitlerum/. Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism > > is wrong. > > It's probably very safe to say you just lost any respect you had on this > list by using a Hitler analogy. The analogy wasn't even relevant to boot. Ron's an established presence here. While he may be a bit blunt sometimes, we're used to him. [Full disclosure: Ron and I have been allies in various, uh, contentious disputes in the past.] Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307214341.1b14cc2f.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Ron Johnson put forth on 3/7/2010 1:33 AM: > AKA /argumentum ad Hitlerum/. Hitler was a vegetarian, so vegetarianism > is wrong. It's probably very safe to say you just lost any respect you had on this list by using a Hitler analogy. The analogy wasn't even relevant to boot. Hitler didn't create vegetarianism. Hans Reiser created the ReiserFS. Apples to oranges comparison. > And when your machine crashes with unflushed data still in cache, splat > goes your xfs partition. Been there, seen that. If this is your only argument against XFS, you may as well not even make it. It merely makes you look a fool. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94612b.9040...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: TIA is ... (was Re: MySQL upgrade failed PLEASE HELP!!!)
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:46:55 -0500 (EST), Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Extra message to say thanks, and to put SOLVED in the subject, and to explain > exactly how you solved the problem using the various answers you got, is not > a > lost time by any mean. (Shame on me: I don't all way spend the time to do > it!!) +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009380724.17446201268015063529.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 2010-03-07 19:21, Richard Hector wrote: On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 18:42 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. What, just drill a hole in it? That will only affect a small part of the disk. I think our sysadmin team has a large log-splitting axe - much more satisfying :-) I'd vote for melting down the platters :-) Many platters are now made of glass a ceramic. A swift whack on the side of a table should do the trick. If not, a likewise swift whack from a claw hammer should shatter it into a jillion pieces. If the platter is aluminum, then a belt sander or grinding drill bit will take care of things. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b94557c.6060...@cox.net
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 18:42 -0600, Mark Allums wrote: > If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. What, just drill a hole in it? That will only affect a small part of the disk. I think our sysadmin team has a large log-splitting axe - much more satisfying :-) I'd vote for melting down the platters :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1268011311.3844.1.ca...@topaz.wgtn.cat-it.co.nz
exFAT is... (was Re: Vfat or NTFS?)
On 2010-03-07 18:50, Mark Allums wrote: [snip] exFAT would be highly useful, especially on removable drives, if there were good support on Linux. (There are those who object merely on the grounds of not using anything to do do with Microsoft, but in that case, we wouldn't use vFAT or NTFS, either.) Probably bound up in too many legal issues. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9450de.6060...@cox.net
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Mark Allums wrote: > If you are re-installing, zeros don't matter (with exception already > noted of ReiserFS). Of course. > If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. Well, depends on who you're defending against. -thib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b944c61.3010...@stammed.net
Re: Emacs24?
On 3/7/2010 4:51 PM, Zachary Uram wrote: Anyone know when emacs24 will be in Debian squeeze? The latest they have is emacs23 :( What is so desirable about v.24? Mark Allums (a confirmed vi man) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b944b9b.9080...@allums.com
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
On 3/7/2010 12:50 PM, Russell Gadd wrote: I've been using Vfat for data partitions which I can access from both Linux and Windows (multibooted). Recently I added another hard drive formatted NTFS and have had no trouble getting Lenny to use it. I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux - e.g. reliability / speed. Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root filesystem on an ext3 partition). Lacking any sane alternative, I would say NTFS. Just be careful, always use umount before removing a removable drive. vFAT is to limited, though it's well understood. exFAT would be highly useful, especially on removable drives, if there were good support on Linux. (There are those who object merely on the grounds of not using anything to do do with Microsoft, but in that case, we wouldn't use vFAT or NTFS, either.) I would like to request that someone with the requisite skill set devise a good substitute for exFAT, and create Linux, BSD, and Windows drivers for it. Please. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9449de.9020...@allums.com
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/7/2010 11:27 AM, thib wrote: Just to drop my two cents, since no one did before: Merely zeroing is not enough [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence If you are re-installing, zeros don't matter (with exception already noted of ReiserFS). If you are decommissioning, there is no substitute for an electric drill. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b944806.8060...@allums.com
Re: Emacs24?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 05:51:00PM -0500, Zachary Uram wrote: > Anyone know when emacs24 will be in Debian squeeze? The latest they > have is emacs23 :( > Emacs 23.1 is the current release and it is in squeeze. A slightly higher version of 23.1 is in sid. http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs.html -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100308002554.ga4...@europa.office
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 3/6/2010 11:20 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. put forth on 3/6/2010 9:11 PM: If you are going to put reiserfs on a block device, it is not overly cautious to erase the block device, to avoid (reiserfsck --rebuild-tree) from performing necromancy. One more reason not to use ReiserFS. The fact it was created by a convicted murderer being the big one, obviously. Long before that, when Reiser was the hype, I never jumped on the bandwagon. I stuck with EXT2 until moving most things to XFS. ReiserFS is okay. *Was* okay. I wouldn't use it *now*.But I find it curious that your chosen alternative is XFS. Mark Allums Ext4 is usable, provided one doesn't ever need to rescue. Current live CDs don't support it well (or mdRAID, or LVM2, either). So I use Ext3, and will continue to do so until either btrFS or ZFS is usable (and well-supported). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b944236.2000...@allums.com
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
The 4 Gig max filesize of vfat makes it unusable for me. I used ntfs-3g for more than a year on 4 different HDD, all around 1 TB and had no problems with stability, data loss or any problems at all. Performance is ok, but not very fast. I got rates of max. 15 MByte/s on Encrypted USB 2.0 Truecrypt HDDs. An Windows ext2/ext3 is also an alternative: http://www.fs-driver.org/ But there are some limitations. Check their FAQ. I would the the fuse ntfs-3g driver, so you don't have to alter your windows installation and it is usable at a friend's windows pc. One problem I encountered with ntfs-3g is that it consumes 99% CPU and the transfer rate drops below 1 MByte if you got only 10% space left and the data is fragmented. Keep that in mind. One contra for ext3 is that is uses 10+ GByte more space for the filesystem and journal (on 1 TB Drives). Sebastian On Sunday 07 March 2010 19:50:12 Russell Gadd wrote: > I've been using Vfat for data partitions which I can access from both Linux > and Windows (multibooted). Recently I added another hard drive formatted > NTFS and have had no trouble getting Lenny to use it. > > I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there > are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file > restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then > gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is > more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux > - e.g. reliability / speed. > > Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root > filesystem on an ext3 partition). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003072357.45746.sebastian.weisger...@dystopianfuture.de
Emacs24?
Anyone know when emacs24 will be in Debian squeeze? The latest they have is emacs23 :( Zach <>< http://www.fidei.org ><> -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ecfa260c1003071451j200f996dk52a862f692f4c...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
Probably not the case, but if by any chance you only want to read it from Linux, consider the kernel driver[1] which should be faster than ntfs-3g. [1] http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=blob_plain;f=Documentation/filesystems/ntfs.txt;hb=HEAD -thib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b942aea.2010...@stammed.net
[solved] Missing pages in new farm wiki
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 01:20:43PM -0800, Todd A. Jacobs wrote: > However, when I log in as WikiAdmin, I don't seem to *be* superuser. > I don't see the SystemAdmin link on the nav bar, even though I've got: Turns out the new version of moinmoin doesn't set up certain pages by default anymore. I went back and installed the necessary pages from LanguageSetup, and all was well. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307220516.gj25...@penguin.codegnome.org
Re: problems with gstreamer
Marcelo Chiapparini skrev:
Recently I upgraded
OO and something happens with the gstreamer library. Now,
aptitude tries to uninstall a bunch of packages.
Hi,
Here are my attempts at comments. The ordering is arbitrary.
1) All packages that are marked {u} have been auto-installed to satisfy
a dependency of some other package. Now that package was uninstalled,
and the dependencies are treated as no longer needed, and will be
uninstalled as well.
From the output, I guess that you run a gnome desktop, and that the
meta-package you uninstalled was gnome or gnome-desktop-environment. In
that case, the best fix would be to reinstall that meta-package. That
might also auto-reinstall the other packages you are missing, like
cheese and rhythmbox.
The other fix would be to mark the packages as "manually installed", and
then aptitude should not remove them automatically.
See a thread called :"Why aptitude wants to remove zenity and
xserver-xephyr?" from 20/11 2009 on this list for more info on that.
I would attempt to first resolve the next issue with the broken package
using apt-get (apt-get does not autoremove packages as far as I know)
instead of aptitude, and then use aptitude to resolve this issue.
2) You have a broken package:
The following packages are BROKEN:
libgstreamer0.10-0
This may have to be fixed before other things can work as you expect
them to. Aptitude says:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> libgstreamer0.10-0: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (<
> 0.10.25.2) but 0.10.19-2 is to be installed.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Install the following packages:
> gstreamer0.10-plugins-base [0.10.26-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
And you wrote:
> # dpkg -l |grep libgstreamer0.10-0
> ii libgstreamer0.10-0 0.10.26-1~bpo50+1
>Core GStreamer libraries and elements
So it seems that upgrading gstreamer0.10-plugins-base to the backports
version would be a good idea.
3) You also have an unsatisfied recommendation:
Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
gvfs recommends gvfs-backends
As I understand it, following recommendations from the package system
should be useful for most users. Unless you have a reason not to have
gvfs-backends installed, I recommend you install it.
Hope it helped
/ johan
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Missing pages in new farm wiki
I have a working wiki, and today I added a second instance. I updated /etc/moin/farmconfig.py and added a new domain instance with a superuser. However, when I log in as WikiAdmin, I don't seem to *be* superuser. I don't see the SystemAdmin link on the nav bar, even though I've got: superuser = [u"WikiAdmin"] in the instance config. In addition, stuff that works on the original wiki, such as help pages and the SiteNavigation link, just come up with "Create Page" in the new wiki. Both wikis have this in Apache: Alias /moin_static/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/" ScriptAlias /wiki "/usr/share/moin/server/moin.cgi" so I don't see why one has the right pages while the other doesn't. I'm not really sure what else I need to look at to troubleshoot this. Any suggestions? I'm running 1.9.2-1 on Debian, if that makes any difference. -- "Oh, look: rocks!" -- Doctor Who, "Destiny of the Daleks" -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307212043.gi25...@penguin.codegnome.org
modsecurity and moin-moin
I'm having a problem with modsecurity and moin-moin. The following rule
is preventing wiki pages with the word '/etc' from posting. I'd like to
find a way to disable this rule for just the wiki (e.g. not for the
whole site) but am not sure how to do that in a granular way.
It seems like a generally sensible rule, but makes it impossible to post
pages that reference the names of configuration files. That's obviously
not what I want.
The rule is:
SecRule REQUEST_FILENAME|ARGS|ARGS_NAMES|REQUEST_HEADERS|XML:/* "@pm
.www_acl .htpasswd .htaccess boot.ini httpd.conf /etc/ .htgroup global.asa
.wwwacl" \
"phase:2,t:none,t:urlDecodeUni,t:htmlEntityDecode,t:lowercase,pass,nolog,skip:1"
SecAction phase:2,pass,nolog,skipAfter:959005
SecRule REQUEST_FILENAME|ARGS|ARGS_NAMES
"(?:\b(?:\.(?:ht(?:access|passwd|group)|www_?acl)|global\.asa|httpd\.conf|boot\.ini)\b|\/etc\/)"
\
"phase:2,capture,t:none,t:htmlEntityDecode,t:lowercase,ctl:auditLogParts=+E,deny,log,auditlog,status:501,msg:'Remote
File Access
Attempt',id:'950005',tag:'WEB_ATTACK/FILE_INJECTION',logdata:'%{TX.0}',severity:'2'"
SecRule REQUEST_HEADERS|XML:/*
"(?:\b(?:\.(?:ht(?:access|passwd|group)|www_?acl)|global\.asa|httpd\.conf|boot\.ini)\b|\/etc\/)"
\
"phase:2,capture,t:none,t:urlDecodeUni,t:htmlEntityDecode,t:lowercase,ctl:auditLogParts=+E,deny,log,auditlog,status:501,msg:'Remote
File Access
Attempt',id:'959005',tag:'WEB_ATTACK/FILE_INJECTION',logdata:'%{TX.0}',severity:'2'"
and is part of the standard modsecurity_crs_40_generic_attacks.conf
file. How can I override this rule for the just the wiki page contents?
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Re: Vfat or NTFS?
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Freeman wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:20:04PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 06:50:12PM +, Russell Gadd wrote: > > > > > > Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root > > > filesystem on an ext3 partition). > > > > Just my experience but: > > > > 1) VFAT is a terrible filesystem with all sorts of restrictions, not > least > >filesize and encoding issues. > > 2) NTFS (using ntfs-3g) performs terribly on Linux. The FUSE driver is > >slow, and this makes data transfer a very lengthy affair. No idea > >about reliability, but I think it's better than it was and I've not > >run into issues myself. > > > > Note that there's a third option: EXT2. > > > > Ext2 obviously works very well on Linux. Using the EXT2IFS driver for > > Windows, you can use Ext2/3 filesystems on Windows as well. > > http://www.fs-driver.org/ > > > > In casual observations I hadn't noticed that. Never tested it. However no > large transfers between ext3 and NTFS ever got my attention as particularly > slow or fast. > > I use NTFS on a shared storage partition and two usb drives but not on > Linux > specific data partitions. > > -- > Kind Regards, > Freeman > > http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ Hey, As someone who has most of there data on ntfs partitions (left over from when I switched from windows), I can say that the current ntfs-3G driver is fine, all my music etc is on the ntfs volumes and I don't notice any high CPU usage in normal operation. Though, when moving large amounts of data (a few gig's) or having rhythmbox rebuild my library (stored on a ntfs disk) it can take upto 30% ish of one core (quad core system). The main problem with using ntfs with linux is that it tends to get quite badly fragmented, and I dont enjoy having to sit in windows for some time while it sorts itself out. But when it comes down to raw performance I have no real complaints, moving data around seems faster than under windows, but ymmv. In the end, if you need to share data between a linux partition and a Windows one NTFS is a fine choice, and has performed fine for me. Regards, Angus.
gnome-ppp error is now a kernel failure?
Follow up: When the wvdial error occurs, a popup window tells me the kernel failed. I should mention that I installed Debian 5.03 yesterday from 5 DVDs. I intend to report this to kerneloops.org, but without a Net connection, everything gets relayed through my Windows machine. Attached is what was added to /var/log/syslog after I ran wvdial. Apparently wvdial was not able to access the file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial, despite my attempts to give it access with sudo chmod. I used sudo chmod to change /etc, /etc/ppp, and then /etc/ppp/peers, but from within the /etc/ppp directory I am unable to cd to peers. The file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial did contain the noauth option, whichdoes conflict with the auth option in /etc/ppp/options, but I changed them both to auth, then I changed them both to noauth, and I still get the same error code 2. Mar 7 06:38:24 localhost pppd[31448]: Can't open options file /etc/ppp/peers/wvdial: Permission denied Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698228] [ cut here ] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698235] WARNING: at drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c:320 serial_write_room+0x4 b/0x60 [usbserial]() Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698237] Modules linked in: nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat nls_base ppdev lp ipv6 cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_stats freq_table ext2 sbp2 loop ide _cd_mod cdrom usb_storage pl2303 usbserial snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm parport_pc parport floppy s nd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss serio_raw snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi pcspkr psmouse snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq jmicron k8temp s nd_timer snd_seq_device ohci1394 ieee1394 snd ahci soundcore snd_page_alloc forcedeth ehci_hcd amd74xx ohci_hcd button i2c_nforce2 i2c_core evdev ext3 jbd mbcache dm_mirror dm_log dm_snapshot dm_mod sd_mod thermal processor fan thermal_ sys ide_pci_generic ide_core ata_generic sata_nv libata scsi_mod dock Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698282] Pid: 10, comm: events/1 Tainted: GW 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698285] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698285] Call Trace: Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698295] [] warn_on_slowpath+0x51/0x7a Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698301] [] check_preempt_wakeup+0xc4/0xf0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698305] [] try_to_wake_up+0x118/0x129 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698312] [] __wake_up_common+0x41/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698317] [] getnstimeofday+0x39/0x98 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698321] [] __next_cpu+0x19/0x26 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698323] [] find_busiest_group+0x254/0x6dc Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698329] [] :usbserial:serial_write_room+0x4b/0x60 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698333] [] opost+0x12/0x1b7 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698337] [] n_tty_receive_buf+0x28f/0xd88 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698345] [] __switch_to+0x96/0x35e Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698350] [] hrtick_set+0x88/0xf7 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698357] [] flush_to_ldisc+0xf1/0x190 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698362] [] flush_to_ldisc+0x0/0x190 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698367] [] run_workqueue+0x82/0x111 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698371] [] worker_thread+0xd5/0xe0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698375] [] autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2e Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698380] [] worker_thread+0x0/0xe0 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698383] [] kthread+0x47/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698386] [] schedule_tail+0x27/0x5c Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698389] [] child_rip+0xa/0x12 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698398] [] kthread+0x0/0x74 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698401] [] child_rip+0x0/0x12 Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698404] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698406] ---[ end trace 386cfb28979fc126 ]--- Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698411] [ cut here ] Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698413] WARNING: at drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c:307 serial_write+0x62/0x89 [usbserial]() Mar 7 06:38:27 localhost kernel: [16142.698415] Modules linked in: nls_utf8 nls_cp437 vfat fat nls_base ppdev lp ipv6 cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_ondemand cpufreq_stats freq_table ext2 sbp2 loop ide_cd_mod cdrom usb_storage pl2303 usbserial snd_hda_intel snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss snd_pcm parport_pc parport floppy snd_seq_dummy snd_seq_oss serio_raw snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi pcspkr psmouse snd_seq_midi_event snd_seq jmicron k8temp snd_timer snd_seq_device ohci1394 ieee1394 snd ahci soundcore snd_page_alloc forcedeth ehci_hcd amd74xx ohci_hcd button i2c_nforce2 i2c_core evdev ext3 jbd
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
#include * Roger Leigh [Sun, Mar 07 2010, 07:20:04PM]: > > I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there > > are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file > > restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then > > gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is > > more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux - > > e.g. reliability / speed. > > > > Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root > > filesystem on an ext3 partition). > > Just my experience but: > > 1) VFAT is a terrible filesystem with all sorts of restrictions, not least >filesize and encoding issues. The worst problem with VFAT is IMHO the stupid behavior WRT letter case, i.e. you get some other filename than you originally intended to store to which confuses tools like rsync. The encoding issues are usually not that bad. > 2) NTFS (using ntfs-3g) performs terribly on Linux. The FUSE driver is I disagree. I get about half of the raw speed of the drive from a Windows system partition. Ext3 is not much better on a Linux system partition. There were, however, combinations of kernel versions and ntfs-3g versions where performance really sucked. >slow, and this makes data transfer a very lengthy affair. No idea Cannot agree on that either. FUSE driver needs to copy data around and therefore having some spare CPU power helps a lot and many people have multi-core CPUs nowadays. Regards, Eduard. -- hat einer von euch schon bind9 installiert? das neue root kit? :-> signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Instability in Iceweasel
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:41:56 +0100 Javier Barroso wrote: > Hi, > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Celejar wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:19:12 + > > Alan Chandler wrote: > > > >> Has anyone else noticed an instability in Iceweasel recently. > >> Sometimes, when I close a tab, it just exits. Starting it up again > >> brings back all the tabs, including the one I tried to close. I can > >> normally then close the single tab without problems. > >> > >> My system is in a wierd state right now in that I am slowly downgrading > >> from unstable to squeeze. Its quite possible that is the cause, but I > >> thought I would ask here first. > > > > Probably this: > > > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571237 > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571248 > > > > The solution, if that's your problem, is to downgrade libcairo2, as > > mentioned there. > Launch iceweasel from terminal, and if the message when it crash is > the same than in > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551570 > > Then it should be fixed in versions that says libcairo maintanner. The > last version fixed the problem for me. I currently have libcairo2 1.8.10-2 and iceweasel 3.5.8-1, and I'm not seeing the problem. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307154400.05752d52.cele...@gmail.com
problems with gstreamer
Dear Debiannes,
I am running Lenny, with openoffice from backports. Recentrly I upgraded OO
and something happens with the gstreamer library. Cheese, rhythmbox and
totem where uninstalled. Now, when I try to reinstall cheese for
example, aptitude tries to uninstall a bunch of packages. Please, look the
output below (sorry for the long post). I will be very grateful if anyone
could help me.
With the best regards
Marcelo
# aptitude install cheese
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
libgstreamer0.10-0
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cheese gstreamer0.10-plugins-base{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
arj{u} bluez-gnome{u} dmz-cursor-theme{u} ekiga{u} eog{u} evolution{u}
evolution-common{u} evolution-exchange{u} evolution-plugins{u}
evolution-webcal{u}
fast-user-switch-applet{u} file-roller{u} finger{u} freepats{u}
gcalctool{u} gconf-editor{u} gdm{u} gdm-themes{u} gedit{u} gedit-common{u}
gnome-app-install{u}
gnome-backgrounds{u} gnome-cards-data{u} gnome-core{u} gnome-games-data{u}
gnome-nettool{u} gnome-network-admin{u} gnome-power-manager{u}
gnome-screensaver{u}
gnome-spell{u} gnome-system-tools{u} gnome-themes{u}
gnome-themes-extras{u} gnome-vfs-obexftp{u} gnome-volume-manager{u}
gnuchess{u} gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs{u}
gstreamer0.10-tools{u} gtk2-engines{u} gtk2-engines-pixbuf{u}
gtkhtml3.14{u} gucharmap{u} guile-1.8-libs{u} gvfs{u} gvfs-backends{u}
icedax{u} libarchive1{u}
libass3{u} libavahi-ui0{u} libbluetooth2{u} libcdaudio1{u}
libcdio-cdda0{u} libcdio-paranoia0{u} libcelt0{u} libdc1394-22{u} libdca0{u}
libdmx1{u} libenca0{u}
libepc-1.0-1{u} libepc-ui-1.0-1{u} libexchange-storage1.2-3{u}
libgda3-3{u} libgda3-common{u} libgdl-1-0{u} libgdl-1-common{u} libggz2{u}
libggzcore9{u}
libggzmod4{u} libgmyth0{u} libgnome-pilot2{u} libgnomevfs2-bin{u}
libgpgme11{u} libgpod3{u} libgtk-vnc-1.0-0{u} libgtkhtml3.14-19{u}
libgtksourceview2.0-0{u}
libgtksourceview2.0-common{u} libgvfscommon0{u} libmms0{u}
libmodplug0c2{u} libmtp7{u} libmusicbrainz4c2a{u} libofa0{u} libopal-2.2{u}
libopenobex1{u}
libopenspc0{u} libpisock9{u} libpisync1{u} libpt-1.10.10{u}
libpt-1.10.10-plugins-alsa{u} libpt-1.10.10-plugins-v4l{u} libpth20{u}
libsndfile1{u}
libsoundtouch1c2{u} libspeexdsp1{u} libstdc++5{u} libwildmidi0{u}
obex-data-server{u} p7zip{u} python-4suite-xml{u} python-eggtrayicon{u}
python-gdata{u}
python-gdbm{u} python-gnome2-extras{u} python-gst0.10{u}
python-gtkhtml2{u} python-gtksourceview2{u} python-sexy{u} seahorse{u}
swfdec-gnome{u}
system-config-printer{u} totem-common{u} transmission-common{u}
transmission-gtk{u} unzip{u} vinagre{u} vino{u} zenity{u} zip{u}
0 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 119 to remove and 12 not upgraded.
Need to get 4776kB of archives. After unpacking 404MB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libgstreamer0.10-0: Conflicts: gstreamer0.10-plugins-base (< 0.10.25.2)
but 0.10.19-2 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Install the following packages:
gstreamer0.10-plugins-base [0.10.26-1~bpo50+1 (lenny-backports)]
Keep the following packages at their current version:
gvfs [0.2.5-1.1 (stable, now)]
libgvfscommon0 [0.2.5-1.1 (stable, now)]
Leave the following dependencies unresolved:
gvfs recommends gvfs-backends
Score is -38
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] Y
The following NEW packages will be installed:
cheese gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
The following packages will be REMOVED:
arj{u} bluez-gnome{u} dmz-cursor-theme{u} ekiga{u} eog{u} evolution{u}
evolution-common{u} evolution-exchange{u} evolution-plugins{u}
evolution-webcal{u}
fast-user-switch-applet{u} file-roller{u} finger{u} freepats{u}
gcalctool{u} gconf-editor{u} gdm{u} gdm-themes{u} gedit{u} gedit-common{u}
gnome-app-install{u}
gnome-backgrounds{u} gnome-cards-data{u} gnome-core{u} gnome-games-data{u}
gnome-nettool{u} gnome-network-admin{u} gnome-power-manager{u}
gnome-screensaver{u}
gnome-spell{u} gnome-system-tools{u} gnome-themes{u}
gnome-themes-extras{u} gnome-vfs-obexftp{u} gnome-volume-manager{u}
gnuchess{u} gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs{u}
gstreamer0.10-tools{u} gtk2-engines{u} gtk2-engines-pixbuf{u}
gtkhtml3.14{u} gucharmap{u} guile-1.8-libs{u} icedax{u} libass3{u}
libavahi-ui0{u} libcdaudio1{u}
libcelt0{u} libdc1394-22{u} libdca0{u} libdmx1{u} libenca0{u}
libepc-1.0-1{u} libepc-ui-1.0-1{u} libexchange-storage1.2-3{u} libgda3-3{u}
libgda3-common{u}
libgdl-1-0{u} libgdl-1-common{u} libggz2{u} libggzcore9{u} libggzmod4{u}
libgmyth0{u} libgnome-pilot2{u} libgnomevfs2-bin{u} libgpgme11{u}
libgpod3{u}
libgtk-vnc-1.0-0{u} libgtkhtml3.14-19{u} libgtksourceview2.0-0{u}
libgtksourceview2.0-common{u} libmms0{u} libmodplug0c2{u} libmtp7{u}
libmusicbrainz4c2a{u}
libofa0{u} libopal-2.2{u} libopenspc0{u} libpisock9{u} libpis
Re: ssh
2010/3/6 Tzafrir Cohen : > On Tue, Mar 02, 2010 at 03:36:10AM -0800, consul tores wrote: >> hello >> >> If i do # ssh from Lenny against Slackware or OpenBSD, then i get only >> 1 key, but if i do # ssh from Lenny to Lenny, then i receive 2 keys! >> It happens when i am outside of my lan which has a router DLink as >> gateway, when i test it at inside, i recieve only 1 key for Slackware, >> OpenBSD and Lenny. >> Checking rsa ids, they are the same in both cases. > > What do you mean by "1 key" and "2 keys"? How do you see that? > > -- > Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is I mean pub.key (ssh-rsa), it only happens the first time that i access my Lenny box from outside of my lan; 1 pub.key for the router and 1 pub.key for the Lenny box; it does not happen with Slackware and OpenBSD boxes. thanks francisco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cdeec9051003071226u15a0a53dj501a72e797319...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 07:20:04PM +, Roger Leigh wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 06:50:12PM +, Russell Gadd wrote: > > > > Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root > > filesystem on an ext3 partition). > > Just my experience but: > > 1) VFAT is a terrible filesystem with all sorts of restrictions, not least >filesize and encoding issues. > 2) NTFS (using ntfs-3g) performs terribly on Linux. The FUSE driver is >slow, and this makes data transfer a very lengthy affair. No idea >about reliability, but I think it's better than it was and I've not >run into issues myself. > > Note that there's a third option: EXT2. > > Ext2 obviously works very well on Linux. Using the EXT2IFS driver for > Windows, you can use Ext2/3 filesystems on Windows as well. > http://www.fs-driver.org/ > In casual observations I hadn't noticed that. Never tested it. However no large transfers between ext3 and NTFS ever got my attention as particularly slow or fast. I use NTFS on a shared storage partition and two usb drives but not on Linux specific data partitions. -- Kind Regards, Freeman http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307202629.ga23...@europa.office
Re: perl/bash question - html link out of text
On Sunday 07 March 2010 11:07:56 Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > I don't know how to modify the: > > sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1,' > > command, to not just: > $ echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ > \"$]+).*,\1,' > http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ > > rather output this: > test string http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ test sed -r 's,(http://[^ \"$]+),\1,' maybe? -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Vfat or NTFS?
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 06:50:12PM +, Russell Gadd wrote: > I've been using Vfat for data partitions which I can access from both Linux > and Windows (multibooted). Recently I added another hard drive formatted > NTFS and have had no trouble getting Lenny to use it. > > I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there > are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file > restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then > gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is > more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux - > e.g. reliability / speed. > > Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root > filesystem on an ext3 partition). Just my experience but: 1) VFAT is a terrible filesystem with all sorts of restrictions, not least filesize and encoding issues. 2) NTFS (using ntfs-3g) performs terribly on Linux. The FUSE driver is slow, and this makes data transfer a very lengthy affair. No idea about reliability, but I think it's better than it was and I've not run into issues myself. Note that there's a third option: EXT2. Ext2 obviously works very well on Linux. Using the EXT2IFS driver for Windows, you can use Ext2/3 filesystems on Windows as well. http://www.fs-driver.org/ The main restrictions are that you need to format the filesystem with a 128 byte inode size, and you can't use an ext3 journal (but you can use it as ext3 in Linux). It also ignores the ownership/permissions and gives you access to everything. I formatted like this: mkfs -t ext3 -v -I 128 -j -L disklabel -m 0 -O sparse_super -O dir_index -O filetype -O large_file /dev/sdxn and I can now use a filesytem without filesize limitations, encoding issues, performance issues etc. on both Linux and Windows. I use this on a 500GB RAID1 array connected via FireWire 800, and it's *fast*. With ntfs-3g, it crawled due to maxing out my CPU. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
thib wrote: Just to drop my two cents, since no one did before: Merely zeroing is not enough [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence And if you see the notes: http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/overwritten-data-guttman.html "Since writing the above, I have noticed a comment attributed to Gutmann conceeding that overwritten sectors on "modern" (post 2003?) drives can not be read by the techniques outlined in the 1996 paper, but he does not withdraw the overwrought claims of the paper with respect to older drives." -- Odd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b93f9eb.2030...@runbox.no
Vfat or NTFS?
I've been using Vfat for data partitions which I can access from both Linux and Windows (multibooted). Recently I added another hard drive formatted NTFS and have had no trouble getting Lenny to use it. I am wondering now whether to convert my Vfat partitions to NTFS as there are some advantages. For example I recently forgot about the 4GB file restriction of Vfat when trying to download a DVD iso - it got to 4GB then gave up so I had to redownload again to the NTFS volume. I suspect NTFS is more reliable at least in Windows. Are there any potential issues in Linux - e.g. reliability / speed. Should I go NTFS now for my data files? (keeping the main Lenny root filesystem on an ext3 partition).
Re: this table in html how
On Sunday 07 March 2010 19:02:13 Thierry Chatelet wrote: > On Sunday 07 March 2010 12:26:01 Adrian Levi wrote: > > On 7 March 2010 21:19, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > > > > I get to correct you back :-) > > Yes!! > > > If your going to specify cols then the percentages need to match ;-) > > > > Adrian > > This will be better (using php): > Choice of the number of rows > Choice of the percentage > > To improve: > Need to get ride of the first row > Also need better check on the values inputed. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003071904.41516.tchate...@free.fr
Re: this table in html how
On Sunday 07 March 2010 12:26:01 Adrian Levi wrote:
> On 7 March 2010 21:19, Thierry Chatelet wrote:
>
> I get to correct you back :-)
Yes!!
> If your going to specify cols then the percentages need to match ;-)
>
> Adrian
>
This will be better (using php):
Choice of the number of rows
Choice of the percentage
To improve:
Need to get ride of the first row
Safe under table.php
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml11/DTD/xhtml11.dtd";>
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xml:lang="fr" lang="fr">
Percentage table
body {
background-color: #1BFFBB; /* (grille grise et blanche) */
margin: 0px 0px; /* Donner plus de marge à gauche et à droite, et moins en
haut et en bas */
font-family: sans-serif; /* Police moderne, sans empattements, du type Times
New Roman */
}
table /* Le tableau en lui-même */
{
margin: auto; /* Centre le tableau */
border: 0px; /* Bordure du tableau avec effet 3D (outset) */
border-collapse: collapse; /* Colle les bordures entre elles */
}
td /* Les cellules normales */
{
border: 1px solid black;
text-align: center; /* Tous les textes des cellules seront centrés*/
/* padding: 5px; /* Petite marge intérieure aux cellules pour éviter que le
texte touche les bordures */
}
';
//-Post TableWidth and Number of Rows -//
if (!isset($TableWidth)) {
echo 'Tablewidth in pixel: ';
echo 'Number of rows: ';
echo '';
}
//-Post number of cells per row ---//
if (isset($TableWidth) AND !isset($NbrCellRow[1])) {
echo '';
echo '';
for ($i=1; $i < $NbrRow+1; $i++) {
echo 'Number of cells for row '.$i.': ';
echo '';
}
echo '';
}
//-Post value of each cell -//
if (isset ($_POST['Next2'])) {
echo '';
echo '';
for ($i=1; $i < $NbrRow+1; $i++) {
echo '';
echo 'Values for row '.$i.':';
for ($j=1; $j < $NbrCellRow[$i]+1; $j++) {
echo 'Value for cell '.$j.': ';
echo '
%';
}
}
echo '';
}
// Show Table /
if ($ShowTable== True) {
echo '';
echo '';
for ($i=0; $i <100; $i++) {
echo '';}
echo '';
for ($i=1; $i< $NbrRow+1; $i++) {
echo '';
for ($j=1; $j< $NbrCellRow[$i]+1; $j++) {
echo 'R'.$i.'C'.$j.': '.
$NbrColSpan[$i][$j].'"%';
}
echo '';
}
echo '';
}
echo '';
?>
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Re: Monitor Resolution issues
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:03:58 +1000, Linux User wrote: > I have a BenQ 20" G2220HD series monitor, and I was wondering if anyone > knows what I can put in the Xorg.conf file. I've just switched from > Debian to Kubuntu briefly for reasons that would take time to explain. > Debian Lenny 5.0.4 sets a very high resolution and makes everything far > too small, while Kubuntu gives me 800x600. Ugh, having a 21,5 inches wide display like yours and 800x600 resolution is like a crime ;-) TFT monitors only have one (unique) optimal resolution and for your display that is set at 1920x1080. Anything below that will render fuzzy and distorted text and pictures. What you can do, if you find for whatever reason your texts and images very small at recommended resolution, is to higher the dpi from 96 to 120, for example. That way anything will be rendered "bigger" but you still keep the recommended resolution. > I also wonder what I can do in the configuration file about my graphics > card if I need to do that. It's a Gigabyte GT220 (nvidia). > > Thanks for any help. I'd like to know how I can do things manually > because the tools on both distributions won't let me change the monitor > resolution or anything like that. In GNOME there is a GUI tool to modify screen resolution, named "gnome- display-properties". I'm quite sure KDE has a similar tool, too. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.07.17.27...@gmail.com
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
Just to drop my two cents, since no one did before: Merely zeroing is not enough [1]. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_remanence -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b93e204.9080...@stammed.net
gnome-ppp error
I can connect to my ISP through my phone modem using gnome-ppp, but then I get this error message: --> Sending: (password) Entering PPP mode. Async interface address is unnumbered (FastEthernet2/0/0) Your IP address is 0.0.0.0. MTU is 1500 bytes Header compression is on. --> Looks like a welcome message. --> Starting pppd at Sun Mar 7 03:16:55 2010 --> Pid of pppd: 23505 --> Disconnecting at Sun Mar 7 03:16:55 2010 --> The PPP daemon has died: pppd options error (exit code = 2) --> man pppd explains pppd error codes in more detail. --> I guess that's it for now, exiting --> The PPP daemon has died. (exit code = 2) Error code 2 means that pppd is getting conflicting options. I don't have a ~/.ppprc file. The /etc/ppp/options file says: asyncmap 0 auth crtscts lock hide-password modem proxyarp lcp-echo-interval 30 lcp-echo-failure 4 noipx These options don't appear to conflict with each other. Do they? gnome-ppp invokes wvdial, and maybe when wvdial invokes pppd it specifies some option which conflicts with one of the above. Here's my /etc/wvdial.conf file, which I don't think is the problem: [Dialer Defaults] Init1 = ATZ Init2 = ATQ0 V1 E1 S0=0 &C1 &D2 +FCLASS=0 Modem Type = Analog Modem Baud = 230400 New PPPD = yes Modem = /dev/ttyUSB0 ISDN = 0 Phone = myISPphonenumber Password = mypassword Username = myusername Is there some log file I can access to show me what is going on? Thanks in advance! David J. Bush -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/18764ae09d96cd8cff7144dd538c13e8.squir...@webmail.ntelos.net
Dual monitor setup and xrandr
Hi all, I have an ATI Radeon HD4850 graphics card with two DVI outputs, and I recently got a second monitor. While both monitors are detected, I'm having trouble getting a twin screen setup working without extra tweaking after X starts up. I've attached the output of "xrandr -q" and my xorg.conf. With this setup (or no xorg.conf at all) both monitors run in clone mode at the lowest common denominator resolution. But, on running xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1 I get a desktop spread over the two monitors correctly. I'm sure this is something trivial missing from xorg.conf (do both monitors need to go into the screen section?). Any suggestions? Thanks, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3600 x 1200, maximum 3600 x 1200 DVI-1 connected 1920x1200+1680+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 546mm x 352mm 1920x1200 60.0*+ 1600x1200 60.0 1680x1050 59.9 1600x1000 60.0 1280x1024 75.0 60.0 1280x960 60.0 1152x864 75.0 1024x768 75.0 60.0 832x62474.6 800x60075.0 60.3 640x48075.0 59.9 720x40070.1 DVI-0 connected 1680x1050+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 433mm x 270mm 1680x1050 59.9*+ Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "X.org Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" Option "Clone" "off" EndSection Section "Files" ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi" FontPath "/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType" FontPath "built-ins" EndSection Section "Module" Load "record" Load "glx" Load "dbe" Load "dri2" Load "dri" Load "extmod" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "kbd" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "auto" Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice" Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 540 350 # mm Identifier "Monitor1" VendorName "HWP" ModelName"HP LP2475w" Option "DPMS" EndSection Section "Monitor" #DisplaySize 540 350 # mm Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "APL" ModelName"Cinema Display" Option "DPMS" Option "LeftOf""HP LP2475w" EndSection Section "Device" ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "Dac8Bit" # [] #Option "BusType" # [] #Option "CPPIOMode" # [] #Option "CPusecTimeout" # #Option "AGPMode" # #Option "AGPFastWrite" # [] #Option "AGPSize" # #Option "GARTSize" # #Option "RingSize" # #Option "BufferSize"# #Option "EnableDepthMoves" # [] #Option "EnablePageFlip"# [] #Option "NoBackBuffer" # [] #Option "DMAForXv" # [] #Option "FBTexPercent" # #Option "DepthBits" # #Option "PCIAPERSize" # #Option "AccelDFS" # [] #Option "IgnoreEDID"# [] #Option "DisplayPriority" # [] #Option "PanelSize" # [] #Option "ForceMinDotClock" # #Option "ColorTiling" # [] #Option "VideoKey" # #Option "RageTheatreCrystal"# #Option "RageTheatreTunerPort" # #Option "RageTheatreCompositePort" # #
Re: extracting vector graphics from a PDF
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Steve Kleene wrote: > On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:59:23 -0500, I wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to extract a vector graphics image from a PDF? > > On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:06:33 +0100, mathieu.malate...@gmail.com replied: > >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pdf2svg.html >> You'll get the whole page (including text fonts) as vectorial objects. > > Part of my original problem was that I have a PDF that, for some reason, > won't open in Adobe Illustrator 9 (AI9). My goal was to isolate an EPS > graphic from a page with text into AI9 and edit the image. > > Anyway, your suggestion worked. I converted file.pdf into file.svg, brought > that up in iceweasel, and wrote it out as file.ps. Illustrator 9 could then > open file.ps. The grouping of objects seemed pretty hacky, but I could deal > with that. Neat ! I discover that inskscape has a pdf import functionality. I could even import my PDF file directly, and save it as SVG. The text was properly handled this time ! 2cts -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bf0c3b3f1003070921r246506efj1aa73e399b5c5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: perl/bash question - html link out of text
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 11:12:39AM -0600, Kumar Appaiah wrote: > On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 06:07:56PM +0100, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > > I don't know how to modify the: > > > > sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1,' > > > > command, to not just: > > $ echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ > > \"$]+).*,\1,' > > http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ > > > > rather output this: > > test string http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ test > > How about: > > echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,(.*)(http://[^ > \"$]+).*,\1\2,' Rather: echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,(.*)(http://[^ \"$]+)(.*),\1\2\3,' Kumar -- Win95 is not a virus; a virus does something. -- unknown source signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: perl/bash question - html link out of text
On Sun, Mar 07, 2010 at 06:07:56PM +0100, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > I don't know how to modify the: > > sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1,' > > command, to not just: > $ echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ > \"$]+).*,\1,' > http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ > > rather output this: > test string http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ test How about: echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,(.*)(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1\2,' HTH. Kumar -- Whoa...I did a 'zcat /vmlinuz > /dev/audio' and I think I heard God... -- mikecd on #Linux signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: this table in html how
thank you! :) On v, 2010-03-07 at 11:50 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:51:12 +0100, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > > > http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png > > > > i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ > > > > how can i make it? > > *** > > > cell1 > cell2 > > > cell3 > cell4 > cell5 > > > *** > > CSS no included ;-) > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267981775.2365.85.ca...@ubuntu
perl/bash question - html link out of text
I don't know how to modify the: sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1,' command, to not just: $ echo "test string http://somewhere.uk/ test" | sed -r 's,.*(http://[^ \"$]+).*,\1,' http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ rather output this: test string http://somewhere.uk/";>http://somewhere.uk/ test can some perl/bash gods help me? :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267981676.2365.83.ca...@ubuntu
Re: extracting vector graphics from a PDF
Dne, 07. 03. 2010 17:46:04 je Steve Kleene napisal(a): Thanks to both of you. You're welcome. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267984772.490...@compax
Re: extracting vector graphics from a PDF
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:59:23 -0500, I wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to extract a vector graphics image from a PDF? On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:06:33 +0100, mathieu.malate...@gmail.com replied: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pdf2svg.html > You'll get the whole page (including text fonts) as vectorial objects. Part of my original problem was that I have a PDF that, for some reason, won't open in Adobe Illustrator 9 (AI9). My goal was to isolate an EPS graphic from a page with text into AI9 and edit the image. Anyway, your suggestion worked. I converted file.pdf into file.svg, brought that up in iceweasel, and wrote it out as file.ps. Illustrator 9 could then open file.ps. The grouping of objects seemed pretty hacky, but I could deal with that. On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:10:58 +0100, Klistvud replied: > ... pdftops should do the job. It's in Lenny's repos somewhere and it > comes with pdftohtml and other command-line pdf utils, but the exact > package name escapes me at the moment ... That worked even better! Converting z.pdf to z.ps gave a file that worked in AI9 and also showed more reasonable grouping of objects. I already had pdftops. According to apt-file, I got it with poppler-utils and/or xpdf-utils. Thanks to both of you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1054_1783_126798036...@syrano.acb.uc.edu
Re: Install failed un ASUS RS300-E6/PS4 server
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:14:24 +0100, Sam Przyswa wrote: > Camaleón a écrit : >> I would follow the Debian's installer advice and try to manually load >> the driver by issuing "modprobe": >> >> 5.4.1.2. How to investigate and maybe solve issues >> http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/ch05s04.html.en#unreliable- cd >> >> > It's not a driver problem but device problem, I have nothing to mount, > no /dev/hd /dev/sd devices. > > I had to install with the testing CD this installer find and create the > /dev/sdxx devices, the 5.0.4 no ! That means your optical drive was not detected by Debian Lenny installer, which can be either a bug on the installer itself or that the driver required for your optical unit to be detected is not available in this release and you have to manually load the required driver to be properly detected and configured. That is what the manual states ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.07.16.39...@gmail.com
Re: Install failed un ASUS RS300-E6/PS4 server
Camaleón a écrit : On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:24:16 +0100, Sam Przyswa wrote: I installed lot of Debian on lot of machines/servers but it's the first time I have a problem with a rack-mount server ASUS RS300-E6/PS4. The Debian installer (5.04) begin, I select language, keyboard, then it failed to find CDROM. When I open a terminal Ctrl-Alt-F1 a "ls /dev" don't show any /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx and /dev/cdrom and I have to quit the install. What's wrong and how to fix it. I would follow the Debian's installer advice and try to manually load the driver by issuing "modprobe": 5.4.1.2. How to investigate and maybe solve issues http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/ch05s04.html.en#unreliable-cd It's not a driver problem but device problem, I have nothing to mount, no /dev/hd /dev/sd devices. I had to install with the testing CD this installer find and create the /dev/sdxx devices, the 5.0.4 no ! Sam. -- Sam Przyswa - Chef de projet Email: s...@arial-concept.com Arial Concept - Intégrateur Internet 36, rue de Turin - 75008 - Paris - France Tel: 01 40 54 86 04 - Fax: 01 40 54 83 01 Fax privé: 09 57 12 27 22 Skype ID: arial-concept Web: http://www.arial-concept.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b93d0e0.2090...@arial-concept.com
Re: extracting vector graphics from a PDF
Dne, 07. 03. 2010 14:59:23 je Steve Kleene napisal(a): The PDF was created with LaTeX, so I'm pretty sure the image was incorporated as vector graphics (PS or EPS). I am aware of pdfimages from the poppler-utils package, but it only handles raster graphics. I'm not familiar with "vector graphics" extensions; if what you mean are PostScript and Encapsulated PostScript respectively, then pdftops should do the job. It's in Lenny's repos somewhere and it comes with pdftohtml and other command-line pdf utils, but the exact package name escapes me at the moment ... -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1267981858.490...@compax
Re: Install failed un ASUS RS300-E6/PS4 server
On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:24:16 +0100, Sam Przyswa wrote: > I installed lot of Debian on lot of machines/servers but it's the first > time I have a problem with a rack-mount server ASUS RS300-E6/PS4. The > Debian installer (5.04) begin, I select language, keyboard, then it > failed to find CDROM. When I open a terminal Ctrl-Alt-F1 a "ls /dev" > don't show any /dev/hdx or /dev/sdx and /dev/cdrom and I have to quit > the install. > > What's wrong and how to fix it. I would follow the Debian's installer advice and try to manually load the driver by issuing "modprobe": 5.4.1.2. How to investigate and maybe solve issues http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/amd64/ch05s04.html.en#unreliable-cd Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.07.16.03...@gmail.com
Re: Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
In <4b93556d.8070...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote: >On 2010-03-06 21:11, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> In <4b92a531.6090...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 2010-03-06 09:41, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In <20100306015538.gp11...@wasteland.homelinux.net>, Jochen Schulz wrote: > Mark: >> [H]ow do I overwrite an existing partition (hda2 for example) with all >> zeros > > Why do you think you need to blank the partition before installing > lenny? [reiserfs] might link files from the old file system into lost+found. >>> >>> Non sequiter? >> >> Not really. >> >> 1. Old installation using one of more reiserfs file systems. >> 2. Install Lenny without wiping; use one or more reiserfs file systems. >> 3. Worst-case scenario file system failure. >> 4. (reiserfsck --rebuild-tree) -> Links files from the old file system >> into the new file system. > >You're joking. You *must* be joking. No, sir. That said, I've never personally experienced it. >But then, I never did --rebuild-tree. I've only had to do it once or twice. >While I had lots of problems with ReiserFS 3, v3.5 was really darned >stable. Only reason I moved away from it was that it was >undermaintained. I continue to use it despite it's few warts. I do want to move away from it, but I'm hoping to put it off until a stable BTrFS is available in Sid. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: extracting vector graphics from a PDF
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Steve Kleene wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to extract a vector graphics image from a PDF? > > The PDF was created with LaTeX, so I'm pretty sure the image was incorporated > as vector graphics (PS or EPS). I am aware of pdfimages from the > poppler-utils package, but it only handles raster graphics. > > I'd prefer to do this from Lenny but also tried XP. Under XP, I have Acrobat > 9.3.1 and Illustrator 9.0. Illustrator couldn't open the PDF, and I couldn't > find a way to export the image from Acrobat. I do not think this is exactly what you are looking for, but it did worked for me: http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pdf2svg.html You'll get the whole page (including text fonts) as vectorial objects. 2cts -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bf0c3b3f1003070706s32493b0ke9916b27172c9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: logrotate
On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:12:18 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: > Hi, > > is there a way to scp or rsync the files to a remote host older than > 15 days in the logrotate config and than delete it on localhost older > than 15 days, so that at a time only 15 days of logs are available on > localhost. > > Thanks, > > Kaushal > > May be the "prerotate" in logrotate file ??? You're welcome. -- Laurent Guignard, Registered as user #301590 with the Linux Counter Site : http://www.famille-guignard.org Blog : http://blog.famille-guignard.org Projet : http://sicontact.sourceforge.net GULL de Villefranche sur Saône : http://www.cagull.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307143523.ga14...@portable.home.famille-guignard.org
extracting vector graphics from a PDF
Can anyone tell me how to extract a vector graphics image from a PDF? The PDF was created with LaTeX, so I'm pretty sure the image was incorporated as vector graphics (PS or EPS). I am aware of pdfimages from the poppler-utils package, but it only handles raster graphics. I'd prefer to do this from Lenny but also tried XP. Under XP, I have Acrobat 9.3.1 and Illustrator 9.0. Illustrator couldn't open the PDF, and I couldn't find a way to export the image from Acrobat. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003071359.o27dxnut032...@syrano.acb.uc.edu
Re: this table in html how
I just had to - its probably a disorder :-D
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body {
margin:0px;
}
.left_column_50 {
width:50%;
float:left;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
}
.right_column_50 {
width:50%;
float:right;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
}
.left_column_33 {
width:33%;
float:left;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
}
.center_column_34 {
width:34%;
float:left;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
}
.right_column_33 {
width:33%;
float:right;
text-align:center;
margin:0px;
}
50%
50%
33%
34%
33%
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Re: this table in html how
On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 11:51:12 +0100, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png > > i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ > > how can i make it? *** cell1 cell2 cell3 cell4 cell5 *** CSS no included ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.03.07.11.50...@gmail.com
Re: [SOLVED] Overwrite existing partition with zeros without hurting partition table? (Debian Lenny)
On 03/07/2010 04:23 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: What *can* exist, maybe, are residual *fragments* (blocks or sectors, since the original inodes and index structures were wiped away by the mkfs) which a clever forensic technician could maybe piece back together, So, zeroing out the partition is a reasonable operation for a /home or /data partition (where you'd keep sensitive data), but not for something as mundane as an OS-only / partition. However, I was under the impression that the OP wanted to zero a disk he already owns and intend to continue owning. I'd definitely zero (or write random bytes) a disk that I'd give or sell, but if I wanted just to clear the disk for my own use, I don't think I need to protect my confidential stuff from myself. -- /* now make a new head in the exact same spot */ -- Larry Wall in cons.c from the perl source code Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b9392ab.1070...@kalinowski.com.br
Re: this table in html how
On 7 March 2010 21:19, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > Oup: > More like that: 50% 50% 33% 33% 33% I get to correct you back :-) If your going to specify cols then the percentages need to match ;-) Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d3826e641003070326r725e8a61ke1f4865e31948...@mail.gmail.com
Re: this table in html how
On Sunday 07 March 2010 11:56:10 Adrian Levi wrote: > On 7 March 2010 20:51, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > > http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png > > > > i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ > > > > how can i make it? > > > > > > > > > > > Have no idea about standards compliance but it should render properly. > > Adrian > Oup: More like that: 50% 50% 33% 33% 33% -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003071219.15488.tchate...@free.fr
Re: this table in html how
On Sunday 07 March 2010 11:56:10 Adrian Levi wrote: > On 7 March 2010 20:51, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > > http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png > > > > i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ > > > > how can i make it? > > > > > > > > > > > Have no idea about standards compliance but it should render properly. > > Adrian > More like that: 50% 50% 33% 33% 33% -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201003071217.28923.tchate...@free.fr
Re: this table in html how
On 2010-03-07 04:56, Adrian Levi wrote: On 7 March 2010 20:51, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ how can i make it? Have no idea about standards compliance but it should render properly. Did you forget a TR tag above the 33% grouping? -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA "If God had wanted man to play soccer, he wouldn't have given us arms." Mike Ditka -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4b938a5b.9060...@cox.net
Re: this table in html how
On 7 March 2010 20:51, Vadkan Jozsef wrote: > http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/7735/tablehow.png > > i just can't write this table in html code.. :\ > > how can i make it? Have no idea about standards compliance but it should render properly. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d3826e641003070256ie3a51d0k4b296e0e0c1fa...@mail.gmail.com
this table in html how
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Resume broke after upgrading Squeeze in my T61
Hi, Resuming stopped working in my Lenovo T61 when I dist-upgraded last tuesday. It was a biggish upgrade since I hadn't done upgrading for more than a week so unfortunately there are several possible reasons :| Symptoms: screen stays black after resume. Network and bluetooth leds come on and everything else appears to work. Magic sysrq -keys work and I can boot the machine cleanly. Quirks hadn't changed. Same quirks that were effective prior upgrade are still in lshal -listing. Suspect packages that were upgraded: hal, acpid, acpi-support, acpi-support-base, pm-utils Any ideas are gratefully appreciated :) -- Perttu Muurim ki perttu.muurim...@iki.fi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/19347.28961.491245.162...@gargle.gargle.howl
Re: SOLVED aumix not working
#include * Martin [Sun, Mar 07 2010, 05:01:19AM]: > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 03:03:30PM -0800, Freeman wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:55:52PM +0100, MList wrote: > > > Why is aumix failing and how can I fix it? > > > > > > > Have you read: > > > > Debian specific notes for the aumix package > > === > > > > > After lot of blind guesses I finaly try command > from amixer man page: > $ amixer -c 0 -- sset Master playback -20dB > after this one command aumix can work now as expected. That shouldn't be required unless snd_mixer_oss was not loaded before and amixer just triggered its loading somehow (see quoted README for details). Or maybe it's some other low-level module. You can compare the module lists before and after running that command (visible with "lsmod" command or in /proc/modules). > I guess that amixer command created /dev/mixer device so aumix can > find it now. Why was /dev/mixer was not created during instalation > process I do not know! They are usually created by udev which is triggered by *bingo* module loading. Regards, Eduard. -- zpiggy: wo hast du den nick her? ach dat bin ja ich -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100307084613.ga5...@rotes76.wohnheim.uni-kl.de
