Re: Any experience with Brother MFC-420 CN printer?

[Peter Tenenbaum]

Additional information:  looking in the error log, I see that I did in fact
get this error the last time I tried to print:

E [14/Jun/2010:22:35:43 -0700] Returning IPP
client-error-not-authorized for Print-Job
(ipp://localhost:631/printers/Mrs.Cat) from localhost

This looks like a configuration error (in cupsd.conf?), but for the life of
me I don't know how to fix it.

-PT

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Peter Tenenbaum  wrote:

> I've been migrating my computer resources over from a 6 year old WXP
> computer to a brand-new Debian Linux one.  Most recently I tried to migrate
> our old printer, a Brother MFC-420 CN printer / scanner / fax with USB
> connection.  Brother has CUPS and LPD drivers for it, and they have 2 sets
> of instructions for installing the drivers (one pretty much automatic, one
> more manual).
>
> I've tried both sets of instructions, and it almost works.  The printer is
> detected by the computer when it is first connected; the install appears to
> go correctly, and the printer appears correctly in the CUPS browser
> interface.  When I send print jobs, no errors appear, and the print jobs are
> shown as "completed" in the CUPS browser interface.  However, no printed
> pages ever appear.  Printing from the command line, applications, test
> prints -- none of them result in printed output.
>
> Has anyone else had problems like this?  Any suggestions for how to
> resolve?
>
> I realize that this is something of a long shot, but I have to say that the
> responses I've gotten to questions and problems on this list have been
> borderline-miraculous in fixing my problems, so I figured I'd give it a
> shot!  I've also asked the Linux support people at Brother for assistance.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> -PT
>

Any experience with Brother MFC-420 CN printer?

[Peter Tenenbaum]

I've been migrating my computer resources over from a 6 year old WXP
computer to a brand-new Debian Linux one.  Most recently I tried to migrate
our old printer, a Brother MFC-420 CN printer / scanner / fax with USB
connection.  Brother has CUPS and LPD drivers for it, and they have 2 sets
of instructions for installing the drivers (one pretty much automatic, one
more manual).

I've tried both sets of instructions, and it almost works.  The printer is
detected by the computer when it is first connected; the install appears to
go correctly, and the printer appears correctly in the CUPS browser
interface.  When I send print jobs, no errors appear, and the print jobs are
shown as "completed" in the CUPS browser interface.  However, no printed
pages ever appear.  Printing from the command line, applications, test
prints -- none of them result in printed output.

Has anyone else had problems like this?  Any suggestions for how to resolve?

I realize that this is something of a long shot, but I have to say that the
responses I've gotten to questions and problems on this list have been
borderline-miraculous in fixing my problems, so I figured I'd give it a
shot!  I've also asked the Linux support people at Brother for assistance.

Thanks in advance,
-PT

Re: Chromium Xperience

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/14/2010 09:07 PM, green wrote:

KS wrote at 2010-05-18 20:15 -0600:

What is the experience of other users who have tested out Chromium in
Debian?


I like chromium.  To me it seems faster and the interface more efficient.
Iceweasel (on amd64) always crashed occasionally for me.  I don't recall that


Eh?  Always occasionally?


chromium has crashed (even a single tab) for me yet.  Iceweasel also seems to
have significant memory leaks, and the memory is not recovered by closing all
the tabs (but 1).


That's true...

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Re: deb_checkmd5sum?

[Huang, Tao]

Why not search for the process name in your hard drive?

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 wrote:
> Anybody recognize this process name?
>
> I'm seeing a nightly crash, and this seems to be running at the time (I've
> been leaving top running in a window - deb_checkmd5sum seems to be at the
> top of the list each time the machine crashes).
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Re: Chromium Xperience

[green]

KS wrote at 2010-05-18 20:15 -0600:
> What is the experience of other users who have tested out Chromium in
> Debian?

I like chromium.  To me it seems faster and the interface more efficient.  
Iceweasel (on amd64) always crashed occasionally for me.  I don't recall that 
chromium has crashed (even a single tab) for me yet.  Iceweasel also seems to 
have significant memory leaks, and the memory is not recovered by closing all 
the tabs (but 1).  With chromium a closed tab ends a process, so hopefully any 
existing memory leaks have a significantly lesser impact on the system's 
resources.

There has been a shortage of good browsers in the past in my opinion.  Now 
there are 2 promising browsers beside chromium: uzbl and midori.


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solved: how to start and run a command during boot

[Long Wind]

Thank Greg Madden, Neal Hogan, H.S. and Liam O'Toole!

IMO editting /etc/network/interfaces is neater than editting /etc/rc.local


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Re: LVM

[Andrew Sackville-West]

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 08:27:32AM +1000, Gerald C.Catling wrote:
> Hi Boyd,
> At what point and how do I insert -P in the lvm system?

man lvchange

> Many thanks to all respondents, and NO I did not have a backup, no drive big 
> enough to hold all data.

um... really? I've heard all sorts of reasons for not making backups,
but that is *definitely* not a valid reason. (hint, there is no valid
reason other than "The loss of this data does not matter", which
suggests the questions "then why do you have the data?").

There are many many ways to make take backups beyond having a disk big
enough to hold the data.

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Re: Upgrade Kernel, Lose External Display

[Gilbert Sullivan]

On 06/12/2010 03:20 PM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-06-12 21:06 +0200, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:


I have both xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and xser-xorg-video-fbdev
installed (just confirmed it in aptitude), but it doesn't appear that
they are being used.


I see.  The latest xserver-xorg-core in sid uses nouveau by default, but
that version is not in squeeze yet (and will take some time to migrate
due to a dependency on a new libc6 on hppa).


I did try using the 4-line minimal xorg.conf file suggested at the
nouveau.freedesktop.org location to force nouveau to be used. When I
booted I got a blue text-graphics screen which said that X had failed
to start and which asked if I wanted to view the log (with a choice of
yes / no). However, I didn't get a chance to answer because I was then
unceremoniously dumped at the console logon prompt. I logged on as
root and removed the 4-line file, and then everything was as it had
been before.


It would be quite interesting to view the log with nouveau used as the X
driver.


I would trying turning KMS off just to see if I could learn anything,
but I haven't yet found out how to do it with a grub 2 system.


You may as well blacklist nouveau then, since it is completely useless
without KMS (the nouveau X driver requires KMS).  Note, however, that
without an xorg.conf the most recent xserver-xorg-core will still load
the module.

Sven



Following upgrade of xserver-common and xserver-xorg-core from 2:1.7.7-1 
to 2:1.7-2 this morning (06/14) the ensuing reboot saw the external 
DVI-connected LCD on the port replicator cease to function on *both* 
kernels, whether or not nouveau was blacklisted. It was failing at 
loading gdm on the new kernel, and I got the tty2 text graphics thing 
asking whether or not I wanted to see the xorg log (and not taking 
either a yes or no answer). Switching to tty1 enabled me to log on when 
booting with the old kernel and make configuration changes.


I removed the "blacklist nouveau" entry from 
/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf since the port replicator and external 
monitor are useless for now.


Drivers now being shown by query:

$ grep -B2 'Module class: X.Org Video Driver' /var/log/Xorg.0.log

(II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 0.0.15
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
(II) Module nv: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.1.17
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
--
(II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.3.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver

The system with the built-in monitor behaves much better than it ever 
has before with Open Source drivers. Even with desktop compositing 
enabled in Xfce switching among applications and workspaces is 
instantaneous.


But my external monitor and the port replicator are now useless to me. I 
guess I'll keep experimenting and watching the upgrades as they come 
along, hoping to be able to use my docked configuration again some time.


Transitions can be interesting.

Regards,
Gil


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Re (4): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[peasthope]

From:   Tzafrir Cohen 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 23:17:56 +
> /etc/pam.d/telnet ? telnetd authenticates using login, and hene
> /etc/pam.d/login , right?

Right oh; thanks,   ... P.

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Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 01:54:46PM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> Results are consistent with function of services.
> Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule 
> runs Lenny whereas Dalton runs Squeeze.

/etc/pam.d/telnet ? telnetd authenticates using login, and hene
/etc/pam.d/login , right?

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Re: Debian Community Poll

[B. Alexander]

Done.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Nate Bargmann  wrote:

> I weighed in...
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Re: how to start and run a command during boot

[Greg Madden]

On Monday 14 June 2010 01:17:27 pm H.S. wrote:
> On 14/06/10 04:38 PM, Long Wind wrote:
> > I have etch and a ppp connection
> > I want to make ppp connection every time Debian boot
> > That is, run "pon" during boot
> > What is the proper way to do that?
> > Thanks!
>
> When you do pppoeconf to configure the ppp connection, one of the last
> questions should be if you want to start the connection at boot time.
> Answering "yes" to that should accomplish what you want.

for a ppp conection 'wvdial' does this.

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Re (4): telnetd in Squeeze;

[peasthope]

From:   Ron Johnson 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:13:43 -0500
> You can't telnet into dalton.invalid if there's no telnetd running

Another possibility is that the inetd declines 
to start the telnetd for any connection except 
from localhost.  How can I find how the inetd 
is responding?

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LVM

[Gerald C.Catling]

Hi Boyd,
At what point and how do I insert -P in the lvm system?
Many thanks to all respondents, and NO I did not have a backup, no drive big 
enough to hold all data.
Gerald


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Re (4): telnetd in Squeeze

[peasthope]

From:   Ron Johnson 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 16:13:43 -0500
> You can't telnet into dalton.invalid if there's no telnetd running 

Using ssh ...
r...@dalton:~# dpkg -l telnetd
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionDescription
+++-==-==-
ii  telnetd0.17-36The telnet server

... and "telnet localhost" works there.

> (or, at least, visible).

Well yes, its the connection from another machine 
that is blocked ... but not according to this.
r...@dalton:~# cat /etc/shorewall/policy | grep vpn
# Policies for traffic originating in the vpn zone.
vpn all ACCEPT
r...@dalton:~# cat /etc/inetd.conf | grep telnetd
telnet  stream  tcp nowait  root/usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/in.tel
netd

Seems I need to learn how to examine the iptables 
directly and learn more about pam.

Regards,   ... Peter E.






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Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/14/2010 04:22 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

From:   Tzafrir Cohen
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:45:16 +

You try to login (from telnet) as root?


Oh no.  telnet as a user and then su.


Isn't shorewall rather famous for producing not-so-efficient iptabnles
rules?


Recently it changed from shell based compiler
to perl based compiler.  Hopefully efficiency
improved.


The thought processes behind how you decide iptables rules should be 
generated have nothing to do with implementation language.


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Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[peasthope]

From:   Tzafrir Cohen 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:45:16 +
> You try to login (from telnet) as root?

Oh no.  telnet as a user and then su.

> Isn't shorewall rather famous for producing not-so-efficient iptabnles
> rules?

Recently it changed from shell based compiler 
to perl based compiler.  Hopefully efficiency 
improved.

> However, one useful feature of ssh (that did not exist at the time) is
> that you can use one existing connection. In .ssh/config:
> 
> Host *
> ControlMaster = auto
> ControlPath = ~/.ssh/control/%h__%p__%r__%l

Appears to be for the client side; but ETHNO 
lacks the capability.  If the sshd can do that, 
it could help.

Thanks,   ... Peter E.


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Re: Debian Community Poll

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I weighed in...

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Re: how to start and run a command during boot

[H.S.]

On 14/06/10 04:38 PM, Long Wind wrote:
> I have etch and a ppp connection
> I want to make ppp connection every time Debian boot
> That is, run "pon" during boot
> What is the proper way to do that?
> Thanks!
> 
> 

When you do pppoeconf to configure the ppp connection, one of the last
questions should be if you want to start the connection at boot time.
Answering "yes" to that should accomplish what you want.

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Re: how to start and run a command during boot

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2010-06-14, Long Wind  wrote:
> I have etch and a ppp connection
> I want to make ppp connection every time Debian boot
> That is, run "pon" during boot
> What is the proper way to do that?
> Thanks!

The quick way is to put the command in /etc/rc.local. The better way is
to configure /etc/network/interfaces for ppp. See the 'interfaces' man
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Re: Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/14/2010 03:54 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

From:   Ron Johnson
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:53:42 -0500

... nmap dalton.invalid.


Results are consistent with function of services.


Doesn't seem so to me.


Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule
runs Lenny whereas Dalton runs Squeeze.

joule:~# nmap dalton.invalid

Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-06-14 13:26 PDT
Interesting ports on dalton.invalid (10.4.0.2):
Not shown: 1711 closed ports
PORTSTATE SERVICE
21/tcp  open  ftp
22/tcp  open  ssh
53/tcp  open  domain
111/tcp open  rpcbind


From your 14 Jun 2010 11:03:50 -0700 email:

pe...@joule:~$ telnet dalton.invalid
Trying 10.4.0.2...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused


You can't telnet into dalton.invalid if there's no telnetd running 
(or, at least, visible).


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Re (3): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[peasthope]

From:   Ron Johnson 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:53:42 -0500
> ... nmap dalton.invalid.

Results are consistent with function of services.
Joule also lacks /etc/pam.d/telnet but then Joule 
runs Lenny whereas Dalton runs Squeeze.

joule:~# nmap dalton.invalid

Starting Nmap 4.62 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-06-14 13:26 PDT
Interesting ports on dalton.invalid (10.4.0.2):
Not shown: 1711 closed ports
PORTSTATE SERVICE
21/tcp  open  ftp
22/tcp  open  ssh
53/tcp  open  domain
111/tcp open  rpcbind

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 20.689 seconds
joule:~#

Going the other direction ...
dalton:~# nmap joule.invalid

Starting Nmap 5.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2010-06-14 13:16 PDT
Interesting ports on joule.invalid (10.4.0.1):
Not shown: 990 closed ports
PORT STATE SERVICE
13/tcp   open  daytime
21/tcp   open  ftp
22/tcp   open  ssh
23/tcp   open  telnet
53/tcp   open  domain
80/tcp   open  http
110/tcp  open  pop3
111/tcp  open  rpcbind
113/tcp  open  auth
5060/tcp open  sip

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 6.63 seconds
dalton:~#

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how to start and run a command during boot

[Long Wind]

I have etch and a ppp connection
I want to make ppp connection every time Debian boot
That is, run "pon" during boot
What is the proper way to do that?
Thanks!


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Re: Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:03:50AM -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> From: Ron Johnson 
> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500
> > (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time 
> > Has Passed?)
> 
> Telnet is used only between machines inside my 
> Shorewalled network.
> 
> > What error(s) are you getting?
> 
> ETHNO telnetting to Squeeze.
> Trying ...
> dalton.invalid not opened
> 
> Lenny telnetting to Squeeze.
> pe...@joule:~$ telnet dalton.invalid
> Trying 10.4.0.2...
> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
> pe...@joule:~$
> 
> From: Mark Allums 
> Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:58:17 -0500
> > What about ssh? 
> 
> ssh from Lenny to Squeeze works just as well 
> as ever.
> 
> > VNC? 
> 
> Have yet to try it with Squeeze.
> 
> > RDP?
> 
> Never used it.
> 
> From: Tzafrir Cohen 
> Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:51:46 +
> > Which is why Real Men use telnet, but the rest of us sane folks use ssh.
> 
> With my clunky old hardware, telnet from Heaviside 
> to Joule or Dalton opens in about 1 s.  ssh requires 
> about 15 s.  

I recall preferring rsh to ssh when working on s390 for the very
same reason.

However, one useful feature of ssh (that did not exist at the time) is
that you can use one existing connection. In .ssh/config:

Host *
ControlMaster = auto
ControlPath = ~/.ssh/control/%h__%p__%r__%l

This means that the first connection to the system will have the full 15
seconds of handshaking. But the next one will simply connect on top of
an existing connection. I suspect it would even be less than the 1
second for the telnet connection.

If you have a number of simultanious connections, it may help.
Alternatively, start a single "control connection" when you start
working, and keep it working for as long as you need it.

> Please don't tell me to get faster 
> computers unless citing a specific liability from 
> Shorewall.

Isn't shorewall rather famous for producing not-so-efficient iptabnles
rules?

> 
> Does anyone out there have a network with at least 
> one machine running Squeeze?  Would be nice to to 
> confirm the failure or hear of a successful connection.

You try to login (from telnet) as root? If so: see securetty and such.

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Re: Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/14/2010 01:03 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

From:   Ron Johnson
Date:   Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500

(Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time
Has Passed?)


Telnet is used only between machines inside my
Shorewalled network.


What error(s) are you getting?


ETHNO telnetting to Squeeze.
Trying ...
dalton.invalid not opened

Lenny telnetting to Squeeze.
pe...@joule:~$ telnet dalton.invalid
Trying 10.4.0.2...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
pe...@joule:~$



I'd nmap dalton.invalid.

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Re (2): telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[peasthope]

From:   Ron Johnson 
Date:   Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:23:50 -0500
> (Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time 
> Has Passed?)

Telnet is used only between machines inside my 
Shorewalled network.

> What error(s) are you getting?

ETHNO telnetting to Squeeze.
Trying ...
dalton.invalid not opened

Lenny telnetting to Squeeze.
pe...@joule:~$ telnet dalton.invalid
Trying 10.4.0.2...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
pe...@joule:~$

From:   Mark Allums 
Date:   Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:58:17 -0500
> What about ssh? 

ssh from Lenny to Squeeze works just as well 
as ever.

> VNC? 

Have yet to try it with Squeeze.

> RDP?

Never used it.

From:   Tzafrir Cohen 
Date:   Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:51:46 +
> Which is why Real Men use telnet, but the rest of us sane folks use ssh.

With my clunky old hardware, telnet from Heaviside 
to Joule or Dalton opens in about 1 s.  ssh requires 
about 15 s.  Please don't tell me to get faster 
computers unless citing a specific liability from 
Shorewall.

Does anyone out there have a network with at least 
one machine running Squeeze?  Would be nice to to 
confirm the failure or hear of a successful connection.

Thanks,  ... Peter E.

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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Andrew Sackville-West]

(On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 04:10:22PM +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Monday 14 June 2010 16:01:57 Camaleón wrote:
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:52:32 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > > A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
> > >
> > > Debian Community Poll
> > > -
> >
> > (...)
> >
> > > 12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
> >
> > Done! Thanks for forwarding :-)
> >
> > Greetings,
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> 
> +1
> 
> Lisi)++

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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Gilbert Sullivan]

On 06/14/2010 11:56 AM, Aioanei Rares wrote:

On 06/14/2010 06:49 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:

2010/6/14 Mark Goldshtein:

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ron Johnson
wrote:

A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:

Debian Community Poll
-

+1


Aye.



Argh!

Oh, I mean aye!


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Re: deb_checkmd5sum?

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:52:18 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:

> Anybody recognize this process name?

First time I see it :-?
 
> I'm seeing a nightly crash, and this seems to be running at the time
> (I've been leaving top running in a window - deb_checkmd5sum seems to be
> at the top of the list each time the machine crashes).
> 
> I expect it's part of a nightly cron job, but I'm (not yet) sure which
> one.

Compare the crash time with the cron jobs running/launched at that time 
to find out the "guilty pattern" ("/var/log/syslog" should tell).

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Re: LVM

[Jim Pazarena]

Gerald C.Catling wrote:

Hi Guy's,
I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
The first drive of this set has died.
I was wondering if any of you Guru's could suggest a method of getting any
remaing data from the LVM drives, that is drive 2 and 3, that are left.
I have tried rebuilding the set, wg0, but the system want to reformat the
drive wg0, just created. Is this formatting going to format the real drives
and rather that just the LVM component?
Your help will be much appreciated.
Gerald


try spinrite disk recovery tool from www.grc.com


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Re: LVM

[Roger Leigh]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:23:42PM +0200, Jochen Schulz wrote:
> Gerald C.Catling:
> >
> > I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
> > I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
> 
> That was a bad idea. You have no control over or knowledge of which data
> went on which drive in this setup. When one disk dies, your whole
> filesystem is hosed.

This does depend upon the specific setup.  If it's striping, then
the data is probably unrecoverable.  If not, the LV may be
restricted to one of the operational PVs (you can specify specific
PVs when you call lvcreate, as you can for the striping options).


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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Aioanei Rares]

On 06/14/2010 06:49 PM, Nuno Magalhães wrote:

2010/6/14 Mark Goldshtein:
   

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
 

A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:

Debian Community Poll
-
   

+1

   

Aye.


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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Nuno Magalhães]

2010/6/14 Mark Goldshtein :
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
>> A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
>>
>> Debian Community Poll
>> -

+1

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Re: LVM

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On Monday 14 June 2010 03:11:56 Gerald C.Catling wrote:
> Hi Guy's,
> I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
> I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
> The first drive of this set has died.

Mostly, when one of your physical volumes is irrecoverably lost, so is any 
logical volume whose logical extents corresponded to one of the lost physical 
extents.

For logical volumes that did not lose an logical extent, they can be accessed 
by starting the volume group in partial mode (--partial [-P]).

For logical volume that did lose a logical extent, the only hope is to 
substitute in a device for the missing physical volume, activate the volume 
group, and do file system level recovery.  Your file system will be beyond 
inconsistent; the number of whole files you recover will likely be small.  
Before this is even attempted, the data on the logical volumes and the volume 
group meta-data should be backed up.

In some respects an volume group is like a RAID 0 set, but quite a bit more 
flexible.  I have only a single volume group, but I am careful to try and keep 
logical volumes on only a single physical volume unless space constraints 
force a "bad" layout.  This allows me maximum access to data in partial mode.
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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Mark Goldshtein]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
>
> Debian Community Poll
> -

Done.

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Re: connecting to wifi accesspoint..

[xuyuanwei]

在 2010-06-13日的 12:03 +0530，sudheendra.kal...@gmail.com写道：
> e and i am not able to connect to wifi accesspoint. I have lenovo
> laptop with BCM 4312 wireless card. I have installed BCM driver and I
> can see wireless extnsions for eth1 on iwconfig command. 
> 
> But while connecting to wifi, gives an error showing "Error for
> wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :  SET failed on device eth1 ;
> Invalid argument"

I think it should be the argument "Encode" not supported by the driver.
But in "man iwconfig",there is no "Encode" option,what does it do? If
it's private parameter,you can try "iwpriv" command.

iwpriv - configure optionals (private) parameters of a wireless network
interface


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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Lisi]

On Monday 14 June 2010 16:01:57 Camaleón wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:52:32 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
> >
> > Debian Community Poll
> > -
>
> (...)
>
> > 12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
>
> Done! Thanks for forwarding :-)
>
> Greetings,
>
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+1

Lisi


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Re: debian architecture history question

[Aaron Toponce]

On 6/12/2010 8:11 PM, Anand Sivaram wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 22:39, Aaron Toponce  > wrote:
> Other than the kernel, which is compiled for 686 instruction sets, and
> maybe a few core packages that would benefit from targeting the 686
> architecture, Debian compiles the rest of the packages against 386.
> There is no 386 kernel available.  Kernel starts from 486 only.

I never mentioned there was a 386 kernel.

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Re: Debian Community Poll

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 09:52:32 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:
> 
> Debian Community Poll
> -

(...)

> 12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska

Done! Thanks for forwarding :-)

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Debian Community Poll

[Ron Johnson]

A section from today's issue of the Debian Project News:

Debian Community Poll
-

After getting the idea during the recent Mini Debian Conference [8] in
Berlin, Torsten Werner prepared [9] a poll for users of the Debian
Operating System [10] asking different types of questions like the usage
of derivatives, about the Debian Free Software Guidelines [11] and
firmwares and of course releases.

   8 : http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/Miniconf-LT-Berlin/2010
   9 : http://twerner.blogspot.com/2010/06/debian-community-poll.html
   10 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska
   11 : http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines

The Poll is available at http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska [12]. Torsten 
asks to

spread the link to as many users as possible.

   12 : http://tinyurl.com/3y33ska


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Re: LVM

[Aaron Toponce]

On 6/14/2010 2:11 AM, Gerald C.Catling wrote:
> Hi Guy's,
> I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
> I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
> The first drive of this set has died.
> I was wondering if any of you Guru's could suggest a method of getting any 
> remaing data from the LVM drives, that is drive 2 and 3, that are left.
> I have tried rebuilding the set, wg0, but the system want to reformat the 
> drive wg0, just created. Is this formatting going to format the real drives 
> and rather that just the LVM component?
> Your help will be much appreciated.

LVM is _not_ RAID. It does offer mirroring, if you initially set it up
that way, but other than that, LVM is a lot like the game Jenga: pull
the wrong disk from the setup, and the whole thing collapses. At this
point, all you can do is replace the drive, and restore from backup. You
do keep an up-to-date backup, don't you? If not, consider that lesson
learned #2. :)

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Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/14/2010 07:51 AM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:


Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled "ssh vs. telnet":
http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh


That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure. But it is
also way more usable. Password-less authentication, Decent tab
completion for scp, X forwarding, and many more.



That was all (except maybe for the tab completion) in the Wikipedia 
article.



Which is why Real Men use telnet, but the rest of us sane folks use ssh.



Flawed logic, but I'll let it pass.

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Re: To force an app running in windowed mode rather than in full screen.

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:47:17 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> IS there a way I can force an application (this one I run with the help
> of wine - as it is microsoft product executable) that runs in full
> screen to run in windowed mode.

Does this help?

http://wiki.jswindle.com/index.php/Wine_start

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Re: To force an app running in windowed mode rather than in full screen.

[Alexander Batischev]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 07:47:17PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> IS there a way I can force an application (this one I run with the
> help of wine - as it is microsoft product executable) that runs in full
> screen to run in windowed mode.
> 
> I need because my monitor readjusts its parameters (as the mode the app
> switches to is different from the one I prefer) and it is not easy for
> me to tune them again - especially every time I run the app.
> 
> Thank You for Your time.

Use virtual desktop settings:

http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/139485-solved-wine-windowed-mode.html

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Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 02:32:35AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

> Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled "ssh vs. telnet": 
> http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh

That misses an important point. SSH happens to be more secure. But it is
also way more usable. Password-less authentication, Decent tab
completion for scp, X forwarding, and many more.

Which is why Real Men use telnet, but the rest of us sane folks use ssh.

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To force an app running in windowed mode rather than in full screen.

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.

IS there a way I can force an application (this one I run with the
help of wine - as it is microsoft product executable) that runs in full
screen to run in windowed mode.

I need because my monitor readjusts its parameters (as the mode the app
switches to is different from the one I prefer) and it is not easy for
me to tune them again - especially every time I run the app.

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deb_checkmd5sum?

[Miles Fidelman]

Anybody recognize this process name?

I'm seeing a nightly crash, and this seems to be running at the time 
(I've been leaving top running in a window - deb_checkmd5sum seems to be 
at the top of the list each time the machine crashes).


I expect it's part of a nightly cron job, but I'm (not yet) sure which one.

Thanks for any pointers.

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Re: SOLVED: Mutt and GPG - claims ALL signatures can't be verified

[Alexander Batischev]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 07:33:11AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Why not run explicitly:
> 
>   env LC_ALL=C gpg [whatever]

Good idea, I think I'll do so. Thank you!

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Re: LVM

[Jochen Schulz]

Gerald C.Catling:
>
> I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
> I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.

That was a bad idea. You have no control over or knowledge of which data
went on which drive in this setup. When one disk dies, your whole
filesystem is hosed.

> The first drive of this set has died.

Ouch.

> I was wondering if any of you Guru's could suggest a method of getting any 
> remaing data from the LVM drives, that is drive 2 and 3, that are left.

You can try the usual data rescue tools like photorec from the testdisk
package.

> I have tried rebuilding the set, wg0, but the system want to reformat the 
> drive wg0, just created.

That was another bad idea. If you want to restore data from bad
filesystems, you should not write to them anymore.

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LVM

[Gerald C.Catling]

Hi Guy's,
I am not a Debian user but I have seen references to LVM here.
I have 3 drives LVM'd to give me 1.3TB of storage space on my server.
The first drive of this set has died.
I was wondering if any of you Guru's could suggest a method of getting any 
remaing data from the LVM drives, that is drive 2 and 3, that are left.
I have tried rebuilding the set, wg0, but the system want to reformat the 
drive wg0, just created. Is this formatting going to format the real drives 
and rather that just the LVM component?
Your help will be much appreciated.
Gerald


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Re: SOLVED: Mutt and GPG - claims ALL signatures can't be verified

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On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 10:04:32PM +0300, Alexander Batischev wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 04:11:20PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > (...)
> > 
> > You can launch Mutt in debug mode (mutt -d 3), so it logs any message to 
> > "~/.muttdebug0".
> 
> That's the first thing one should think about if something doesn't work
> properly, but I forgot about it... Thank you very much, Camaleón!
> 
> So the reason of problem lying in language. I have ru_UK.UTF-8 locale, so mutt
> displays messages in Russian. Look what I got in the log file:
> 
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] mutt_pgp_command: gpg --no-verbose --batch --output 
> - --verify /tmp/mutt-speedy-1000-18475-6204207d671f2cdf9.asc 
> /tmp/mutt-speedy-1000-18475-6204207d671f2cdf9
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: Подпись создана Птн 11 Июн 
> 2010 20:03:55 EEST ключом DSA с ID EF3A7C2D" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: Действительная подпись от 
> "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. (Old Personal) "" doesn't match 
> regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: aka "Boyd 
> Stephen Smith Jr. "" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: aka "Boyd 
> Stephen Smith Jr. "" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: aka "Boyd 
> Stephen Smith Jr. (Work) "" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: aka "Boyd 
> Stephen Smith Jr. (Personal) "" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: "gpg: Замечание: Данный ключ 
> просрочен!" doesn't match regexp.
> [2010-06-12 21:47:48] pgp_copy_checksig: " Отпечаток главного ключа: BA73 
> 1E00 B621 0761 D708  F326 74D6 DF93 EF3A 7C2D" doesn't match regexp.
> 
> Pay attention to those "doesn't match regexp". Here is what I have in my
> ~/.muttrc:
> 
> set pgp_good_sign="^gpg: Good signature from"
> 
> This is that regexp which have to be matched. I simply change previous line to
> the following:
> 
> set pgp_good_sign="^gpg: (Good signature from|Действительная подпись от)"

Why not run explicitly:

  env LC_ALL=C gpg [whatever]

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Re: telnetd in Squeeze; was new authentication mechanism in Squeeze?

[Ron Johnson]

On 06/13/2010 10:54 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 6/13/2010 10:29 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 06/13/2010 09:58 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 6/13/2010 8:23 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

(Presumably you know that telnet is considered a Bad Idea Who's Time
Has
Passed?)


What about ssh? VNC? RDP?



What about them?



Exactly.

Are they better?, worse?, what? than telnet?



Well, VNC and RDP are *different* from telnet, like http is 
different from ftp.  Thus, there is no "better or worse".


Regarding ssh: this was the first entry when I Googled "ssh vs. 
telnet": http://blogs.sun.com/JayzSpeak/entry/telnet_vs_ssh


As usual, Wikipedia gives a good overview:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell

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