Re: HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 04:45:58 +, Harishankar wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
> Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called
> HP_PSC_1315.ppd in /etc/cups/ppd
Just ensure you have the lastest PPD version.
>> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
>
> I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
> recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to make
> no difference to this issue anyway.
No, I am not suggesting you to switch back to any driver, only that you
can try with the latest PPD revision available for your printer, taking
that you are experiencing some problems with the current one.
Greetings,
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Re: Question regarding libgtk2.0-dev on Linux
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 05:01:11 + phil vu wrote: > > Hi, > I'm getting this error message when compiling pidgin: > 'You must have GTK+ 2.10.0 or newer development headers installed to > compile Pidgin' Then I downloaded libgtk2.0-dev > (libgtk2.0-dev_2.12.12-1~lenny2_ia64.deb) from packages.debian.org. > Untarred the file and got control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary > file.Untarred those files and received more folders and files (ie. > bin, include, lib, control, md5sums, etc.). > > For installing the libgtk2.0-dev, am I suppose to move those untarred > files to the respective location (ie. bin-->dh_gtkmodules) or am I > suppose to type in the command like 'sudo apt-get install ...' > > Please give me as much details as possible because I am new at this. > Your help is greatly appreciated. Phil > typically you should just have to : apt-get install libgtk2.0-dev however, if for some reason, you are installing manually then : dpkg -i libgtk2.0-dev_2.12.12-1~lenny2_ia64.deb should do the trick. be aware that you have to execute those as super-user, i.e. run "su -". HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100727222306.65523...@windy.deldotd.com
Question regarding libgtk2.0-dev on Linux
Hi, I'm getting this error message when compiling pidgin: 'You must have GTK+ 2.10.0 or newer development headers installed to compile Pidgin' Then I downloaded libgtk2.0-dev (libgtk2.0-dev_2.12.12-1~lenny2_ia64.deb) from packages.debian.org. Untarred the file and got control.tar.gz, data.tar.gz, debian-binary file.Untarred those files and received more folders and files (ie. bin, include, lib, control, md5sums, etc.). For installing the libgtk2.0-dev, am I suppose to move those untarred files to the respective location (ie. bin-->dh_gtkmodules) or am I suppose to type in the command like 'sudo apt-get install ...' Please give me as much details as possible because I am new at this. Your help is greatly appreciated. Phil _ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1
Kudos to any DD contributing to debian-user [was: Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Ma, 27 iul 10, 23:43:07, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > I read debian-user locally via a mail-to-news gateway, which makes it > much more hassle for me to sign messages. Joke aside, I'd rather you continue reading debian-user, so whatever works for you is good ;) Kudos to you and the other DDs[1] taking the time to read debian-user and chime in as needed with excelent tips. [1] most notably Manoj Srivastava, Joey Hess and Daniel Burrows, but I'm surely forgetting somebody, sorry. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:53:59 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:23 +, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
Actually hpcups has generated a PPD file on its own called HP_PSC_1315.ppd
in /etc/cups/ppd
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
>> provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate
>> PPD from another website and try using that instead?
>
> Latest available PPD file descriptor for you printer is (or seems to be)
> "3.10.6.15". What version do you have installed (PPD files are stored
> under "/etc/cups/ppd")?
>
>> I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
>> uninstall HPLIP?
>
> No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
I am not sure whether the PPD is supplied by the hpcups driver. Is it
recommended that I switch back to the old hpijs driver (it seems to make
no difference to this issue anyway.
>
> If not, you can download the "tar.gz¹" and extract *only* the PPD file
> you need (/hplip-3.10.6/ppd/hpcups/...) so you can add a new printer in
> CUPS using that file (_do not delete_ the current printer, just _add_
> another one. If neither works, you can easily delete the new printer and
> wait until HP corrects the bug).
>
> ¹ http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
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Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On 20100727_134650, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:29 PM: > > > I don't even think Linus is using XFS too. Isn't he a technical person > > Linus uses them all. You should know that. > > > in terms of your definition? So what should we do in that case? Ask to > > RMS? > > kernel.org servers all run XFS as well. > > -- > Stan Stan, Have you ever heard of the term 'invincible ignorance'? It is a term used in Catholic apologesis to describe the state of unbelievers who simply refuse to accept any argument intended to convert them. I suggest that you come to recognize some invincible ignorance here. Also, you have asserted with some vigor upstream, that any computer person who doesn't have UPS on all his/her systems is somehow not really a real computer person. Personally, I am puzzled about a test of XFS on a system running a serious relational database managed using PostgreSQL that does not have UPS. I infer that there was no UPS because if there were, pulling the plug would not have caused any harm, or, knowing that there was a UPS the testers would have not pulled the plug because it would have been a silly 'test'. Your original post in this thread addressed a quite disfunctional attitude of OP, and IMHO, was correct but somewhat harshly worded. In truth, he simply cannot have everything he wants all at the same time. You should have left it at that, IMHO. I suggest that you try to learn to live with the fact that there is a vast unwashed mass of invincibly ignorant people who call themselves computer experts. Unless you relish this heated controversy, you should limit your recommendation of XFS to shops that take for granted the necessity of having UPS first. Peace. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100728015343.ga5...@big.lan.gnu
Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Sergey Spiridonov < sergey.spirido...@gmail.com> wrote: > However chkrootkit and fsck found no problem. > > What else can I check? > -- > Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov > May be try smartctl test to check for hard drive errors? Alexey
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Rob Owens put forth on 7/27/2010 4:36 PM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:39:18PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: >> >>> About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our >>> PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even >>> couldn't *recover* the / fs after the very first power failure test. >> >> What write operations were you performing at the time you pulled the plug? >> Unless you were writing the superblock it'd be almost impossible to hose the >> filesystem to the point it couldn't mount. Were you doing a resize operation >> when you pulled the plug? xfs_growfs? As far as recovery, it's automatic >> upon mounting the XFS filesystem. What do you mean, precisely, by "couldn't >> *recover* the / fs"? >> > Some anecdotal evidence in support of ext3's resilience to power loss: > > I recently lost power while my system was running. When power was > restored, an fsck was automatically performed. During that fsck, I lost > power again! I thought for sure I'd be hosed, but after the power came > back and an fsck completed, everything seems to be working normally. If no writes are in process or pending, it really doesn't matter which fs you use, as none of them will suffer negative effects. All will recover after a journal replay or fsck. For journaling filesystems that are configured properly, even if a write is in progress when the power goes out, the filesystem will not be corrupted as a result. You will have lost data, but the filesystem itself will be healthy. This is one of the two main purposes of a journaling filesystem. The other is rapid recovery. You experienced both in your example. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f6e38.9080...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Monitoring tools to use on an account
On 27/07/10 19:24, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On 7/27/10 12:24 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Tue July 27 2010 09:53:40 AG wrote: Any suggestions, please? If you have the right to supervise a child then supervise them. Stay in the room and make sure they're not surfing porn. Do so openly. If you don't have the right to supervise an adult then don't spy on them. Speaking for myself, not Debian, ... --Mike Bird Nobody has any right to monitor somebody else without consent or a warrant. This is a very grey area companies play in and one the supreme court and others are trying to address and have been trying to address. In some states (especially the state I'm in) even monitoring your kids or wifes activities can cross the line into being criminal, if you're not careful, especially if you break some kind of encryption to do so. I'm no lawyer. Jordon & Mike Thanks for your well intentioned advice. I do know that this is controversial & I am approaching this dubiously & reluctantly. However, it is my machine, my network and my home and as Jordan correctly pointed out - I am liable for what happens under my roof. I also am vociferous against state intrusion and surveillance and find myself in a quandry about this situation. However, be that as it may, I do want to be aware of my options and will exercise the steps necessary to ensure that I am not liable for activities against my consent that are being perpetrated using my equipment, in my home, etc. When I weigh up the pro's and the con's, I am inclined toward instituting some means of monitoring activity such that I have a solid log of evidence with which to confront him, rather than either jumping off of the deep end without reason or being blind-sided by BS. Once again, thanks you for your concern. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f6505.6030...@gmail.com
Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.
Aaron Toponce wrote: >On 7/26/2010 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: >> On Lu, 26 iul 10, 12:42:05, Steve McIntyre wrote: >>> >>> As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian >>> CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past. >> >> You forgot to GPG sign the mail :p > >Maybe this isn't the Steve McIntyre you think it is... :) Meh :-P I read debian-user locally via a mail-to-news gateway, which makes it much more hassle for me to sign messages. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Getting a SCSI chain working is perfectly simple if you remember that there must be exactly three terminations: one on one end of the cable, one on the far end, and the goat, terminated over the SCSI chain with a silver-handled knife whilst burning *black* candles. --- Anthony DeBoer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1odsrb-0004he...@jack.mossbank.org.uk
Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.
On 7/26/2010 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Lu, 26 iul 10, 12:42:05, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> As an ex-DPL and the guy who puts together the official release Debian >> CDs, I can vouch for his work. It's been very useful for me in the past. > > You forgot to GPG sign the mail :p Maybe this isn't the Steve McIntyre you think it is... :) -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Logwatchfreshclam log error
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:52:29 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> >> Is that right? Maybe "logwatch" is looking into "/var/log/clam-update/ >> freshclam.log" and finds nothing :-? >> >> You can make a quick test and try it with the full path: >> >> *** >> LogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log *** >> >> > Thanks for the help! I've added the correct logpath to > 'clam-update.conf' but this didn't make any difference. (...) > LogFile = clamav/freshclam.log (...) Okay... after a careful reading of "/usr/share/logwatch/logwatch.conf" I've noticed that all log files are relative to path "/var/log" so the line "LogFile = clamav/freshclam.log" should be just enough for Debian systems (no need to put the full path, which otoh, is not working). Dunno why it is not detecting the log, all seems right :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.21.51...@gmail.com
Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?
Hi On 27.07.2010 00:09, Jordon Bedwell wrote: On 7/26/10 5:05 PM, Sergey Spiridonov wrote: # cryptsetup create md1-crypt /dev/md1 # pvdisplay /dev/mapper/crypt-md1 No physical volume label read from /dev/mapper/md1-crypt Failed to read physical volume "/dev/mapper/md1-crypt" I should probably start separate thread about this problem, because it is not related to the original problem. This was my stupid error. I must run "cryptsetup luksOpen" instead of "cryptsetup create". That was the reason. However chkrootkit and fsck found no problem. What else can I check? -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i2njvv$o4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Internet filtering
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 09:39:08PM -0400, vr wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:09:44 -0400, "H.S." wrote: > > > > I am not familiar with ATT. Is your service ADSL or cable? > > > > They call it VDSL. > > > > > If your router does not have the features you desire, than you probably > > need to replace it. It may be replaced with a Debian machine working as > > a router. This will probably give you the maximum flexibility. I use > > this method and am quite satisfied with it. The machine needs to have > > two LAN interface to work as a router, one for WAN (internet) and the > > other for LAN. The other option is to buy a new router that has the > > desired features. I would recommend a Linksys or another router that is > > supported by DDWRT, OpenWRT or Tomato open source firmwares. Eventually > > it all depends on how much you make your current router do this for you. > > > > I'm interested in more info about the two network card configuration like > you're running. I have spare parts laying around which could perform that > duty. Can you tell me what software package you are using to control the > traffic across your network cards? Is it GUI based? Can you define which > protocols you want to allow? > I have a Debian-based firewall at home. I used fwbuilder to create all the iptables rules. I like it a lot. It's very flexible. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100727213726.gb14...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:39:18PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: > > > About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our > > PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even > > couldn't *recover* the / fs after the very first power failure test. > > What write operations were you performing at the time you pulled the plug? > Unless you were writing the superblock it'd be almost impossible to hose the > filesystem to the point it couldn't mount. Were you doing a resize operation > when you pulled the plug? xfs_growfs? As far as recovery, it's automatic > upon mounting the XFS filesystem. What do you mean, precisely, by "couldn't > *recover* the / fs"? > Some anecdotal evidence in support of ext3's resilience to power loss: I recently lost power while my system was running. When power was restored, an fsck was automatically performed. During that fsck, I lost power again! I thought for sure I'd be hosed, but after the power came back and an fsck completed, everything seems to be working normally. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100727213610.ga14...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Aniruddha wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner > wrote: >> Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: >>> Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and >>> see how well it deals with power failures :) >> >> Thanks for picking up the torch/gauntlet/whatever. How do you laptop test >> this issue? It's a laptop. Yank the battery? Yanking the wal-wart >> (transformer) won't do diddly. > > I'll use it 'till runs out of battery. :) > Or even better, I'll use virtualbox to see what happens when I plug the power. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlk...@kemojxop36vj-wtcr7910eowbfm0bu9ejz@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: >> Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and >> see how well it deals with power failures :) > > Thanks for picking up the torch/gauntlet/whatever. How do you laptop test > this issue? It's a laptop. Yank the battery? Yanking the wal-wart > (transformer) won't do diddly. I'll use it 'till runs out of battery. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimnqtfz4ozsbym+28wcotynoufhgrqea+bep...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 2:47 PM: > Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and > see how well it deals with power failures :) Thanks for picking up the torch/gauntlet/whatever. How do you laptop test this issue? It's a laptop. Yank the battery? Yanking the wal-wart (transformer) won't do diddly. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f3dd8.9070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 2:04 PM: > unplugged machine. At boot, I dropped to fsck command line. At command Were you forced to the command line or did you manually select to go to the command line? It sounds like you chose to, not forced to. > prompt, I manually fiddled around with fsck of xfs to recover the > unmounted / filesystem, but had no luck. Did you read the xfs documentation before embarking on this power loss experiment? Or did you it "should just work" regardless of your actions, or lack of action? It sounds like you ran xfs_repair on a filesystem in an inconsistent state and forced changes, which is a no-no. (I also tried recommendations > and informative messages supplied by manpages and command > outputs/warnings.) Also if you would Google, it shouldn't be hard to > spot similar experiences from other people. I'm guessing most of them didn't look before taking the XFS leap. > At NASA, they might have genius technicians; but, IMHO a majority of the > linux users would want a filesystem to recover without a prompt from the > user. So the system wouldn't boot and you were dropped to a prompt. You manually fiddled around with fsck of xfs and made no progress. It would be nice to have seen all of that at the time. What were your results when you did this same power yank test with ext2/3, ReiserFS, and the other filesystems you tested in this way? >> I'm basically a one man army trying to defeat misinformation WRT XFS >> and attempt to educate ppl with the correct information. > > I am glad -users ml have you; and I'd be really, really appreaciated if > somebody having experience and knowledge on fs issues can shed some > light to our ignorance. I also support the replacement of default fs > with something that is much more recent. From this point of view, XFS is > a superior alternative. You are totally right with your claims about its > advantages over other alternatives. But as you can see, people still > complain about XFS's sensitivity to power failures. Assuming a majority > of your users aren't behind a UPS, you can sell/ship your product with > such a default filesystem choice. But as you said, there are no > published concrete benchmarks about this issue. It is all what people > claim in the mailing lists. If you would share some of your findings > about "Power Failures and XFS" to convince us, I'm sure most of us will > be happy to advocate XFS's this achievement. I've tried to dig up accurate accounts of the power loss corruption issue post 2007 (when it was supposed to have been fixed) a few times but couldn't find anything concrete enough to be worth referencing. I freely admit I've done no power loss testing of XFS myself. This probably has to do with the fact that I'm a firm believer in orderly shutdowns and redundant power, and that I don't really have any test systems available. I'll ask around on the XFS list and see what folks have to say. I'm somewhat interested in seeing where BTRFS is in 2-3 years. It may be stable enough for production by then, and should be as fast or faster than XFS on some workloads. Maybe it'll even handle sudden power loss gracefully. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f3ce4.2080...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: software for wireless check
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:16 PM, roberto wrote: what package is that in?? >>> >> >> wireless-tools > > what about kismet ? > > -- > roberto > I don't have experience with kismet. Debian has a very simple settings to configure wireless networks though: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basics_of_wireless_lan_interface -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=-b=4pjvguuxum+apkcaj2vvbugnhx5-6tq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Logwatchfreshclam log error
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > Is that right? Maybe "logwatch" is looking into "/var/log/clam-update/ > freshclam.log" and finds nothing :-? > > You can make a quick test and try it with the full path: > > *** > LogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log > *** > Thanks for the help! I've added the correct logpath to 'clam-update.conf' but this didn't make any difference. # grep log /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf # Analyzes the Clam Anti-Virus update log # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf (this file) # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/services/clam-update.conf # /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/clam-update # /var/log/clam-update # alert, you should delete the logfile. If there's no logfile, no alerts # will be output - but if Logwatch finds a logfile and no update attempts #LogFile = freshclam.log LogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log LogFile = clamav/freshclam.log Archive = freshclam.log.* Archive = clamav/freshclam.log.* Archive = archiv/freshclam.log.* -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=onungpvcdxgd2gz2fjmwuxok_u-whgdcnk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Time for some testing, I will put Debian stable with XFS on my laptop and see how well it deals with power failures :)
Re: Monitoring tools to use on an account
You can also use dansguardian or another web content filter.
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:59 PM: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: >> I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart >> enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you use. >> If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical merits >> (not cost), you're uneducated and/or stubborn. > > You are still not getting it, don't you? We have thousands of embedded I get it now. This is the first you mentioned embedded systems. > linuxes in the wild and they are just simple data aggragetors. You can't > have a power backup unit in such a condition. Sure you can: http://www.embeddedarm.com/products/board-detail.php?product=TS-BAT3 And they make 'em even much smaller than that. If you get the right books, _you_ can make 'em smaller than that. :) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f3082.8090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > What write operations were you performing at the time you pulled the plug? > Unless you were writing the superblock it'd be almost impossible to hose the > filesystem to the point it couldn't mount. Were you doing a resize operation > when you pulled the plug? xfs_growfs? As far as recovery, it's automatic > upon mounting the XFS filesystem. What do you mean, precisely, by "couldn't > *recover* the / fs"? Vanilla XFS with noatime,notail like basic mount options. The test was simple, I was just typing "SELECT 1" from a psql command line (this query shouldn't even hit to disk, it just basically returns 1) and unplugged machine. At boot, I dropped to fsck command line. At command prompt, I manually fiddled around with fsck of xfs to recover the unmounted / filesystem, but had no luck. (I also tried recommendations and informative messages supplied by manpages and command outputs/warnings.) Also if you would Google, it shouldn't be hard to spot similar experiences from other people. At NASA, they might have genius technicians; but, IMHO a majority of the linux users would want a filesystem to recover without a prompt from the user. > I'm basically a one man army trying to defeat misinformation WRT XFS > and attempt to educate ppl with the correct information. I am glad -users ml have you; and I'd be really, really appreaciated if somebody having experience and knowledge on fs issues can shed some light to our ignorance. I also support the replacement of default fs with something that is much more recent. From this point of view, XFS is a superior alternative. You are totally right with your claims about its advantages over other alternatives. But as you can see, people still complain about XFS's sensitivity to power failures. Assuming a majority of your users aren't behind a UPS, you can sell/ship your product with such a default filesystem choice. But as you said, there are no published concrete benchmarks about this issue. It is all what people claim in the mailing lists. If you would share some of your findings about "Power Failures and XFS" to convince us, I'm sure most of us will be happy to advocate XFS's this achievement. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwz4u4oi@alamut.alborz.net
Re: Assigning to new NICs the previous interface names.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 01:20:46 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: > How I can make best way the following: > > having 2 NICs in an OS (called eth0 and eth1, having iptables rules set > accordingly) and exchanging one or two of them with (an)other(s) NIC(s), > to make it be again (called eth0 and eth1, having iptables rules set > accordingly) automatically. (...) Just guessing, but... how about changing/adjusting their udev names matching their MAC address? /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules Once/if that file gets modified, take care for the rest of the involved files (/etc/networking/interfaces) are pointing to the right devices. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.18.55...@gmail.com
Re: MIB compiler Browser
Am Dienstag, 27. Juli 2010, 20:17:28 schrieb Jordon Bedwell: > aptitude show mbrowse lol thanks stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007272043.30013.ste...@fuhrmann.homedns.org
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:29 PM: > I don't even think Linus is using XFS too. Isn't he a technical person Linus uses them all. You should know that. > in terms of your definition? So what should we do in that case? Ask to > RMS? kernel.org servers all run XFS as well. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f299a.9090...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: unbelievable, #...@%%!! grub breaks for me AGAIN
On 07/27/2010 11:18 AM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, wrote: I recovered by editing the grub commands using the 'e' command and by some miracle got the thing to ask me what my boot disk is AFTER booting. very strange. here's the best part. I gave it the same device grub "couldn't find" and the system booted just fine. *...@$&! grub. so I'm not sure what I need to provide to have some kind soul help me with this, so I'll just describe the problem and maybe somebody can tell me what additional info to provide. the problem, of course, is that it times out and tells me it can't find (?) the root filesystem. I've run update-grub, and it things everything is just hunky dory. insert cursing here. here's the menu entry that DOESN'T WORK (the linux line is wrapped) : insmod part_msdos insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,msdos2)' search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=UUID=a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 ro quiet initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 I have checked the uuid's using "search" from the command line in the booted, working system and it agrees with what grub is using. I _think_, but am not sure, that when I used 'e' to edit the grub commands I DELETED the search command and replaced the uuid with /dev/sda2 in the linux command. two things seem odd to me. 1 /dev/sda2 is a linux partition so what's up with insmod part_msdos and why is set root (hd0, msdos2) ?? 2 why is it insmod'ing ext2 when / is an ext3 filesystem ? Any help greatly appreciated. I'm going to have to reboot this thing someday, and I'd like to know how to fix this. more importantly, why does grub not know that it's broken ??!! The "tells me it can't find (?) the root filesystem" usually happens once you have gone beyond grub and your initramfs tries to mount and to switch to your root filesystem. The "insmod ext2" is for an ext2/ext3/ext4 /boot. ext3 and ext4 can be thought of as ext2 with extra properties and features... The "insmod part_msdos" is unusual. I have only ever seen it be added to grub.cfg for an mdadm'd /boot, but it doesn't hurt. If for some reason it isn't included in core.img, it helps. The "(hd0,msdos2)" is new (I have it when I use the latest grub2 in sid). It seems to be (hd0,2) with the added info that this is a disk with an msdos partition table. When I install sid or maverick on a gpt disk, I get "insmod part_gpt" and "(hd0,gpt2)... You're not alone. This happens to me every boot. The only way i've found was to reboot 2-3 times until it boot correctly. Installing grub-legacy didn't solve the problem. Squeeze/amd64. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f2833.5080...@free.fr
Re: MIB compiler Browser
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:26:34 +0200, Stefan Fuhrmann wrote: > > can someone recommend an opensource MIB compiler/ browser? tkmib? http://net-snmp.sourceforge.net/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.18.39...@gmail.com
Re: Monitoring tools to use on an account
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/27/2010 02:24 PM, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On 7/27/10 12:24 PM, Mike Bird wrote: >> On Tue July 27 2010 09:53:40 AG wrote: >>> Any suggestions, please? >> >> If you have the right to supervise a child then >> supervise them. Stay in the room and make sure >> they're not surfing porn. Do so openly. >> >> If you don't have the right to supervise an >> adult then don't spy on them. >> >> Speaking for myself, not Debian, ... >> >> --Mike Bird >> >> > > Nobody has any right to monitor somebody else without consent or a > warrant. This is a very grey area companies play in and one the supreme > court and others are trying to address and have been trying to address. > In some states (especially the state I'm in) even monitoring your kids > or wifes activities can cross the line into being criminal, if you're > not careful, especially if you break some kind of encryption to do so. > I'm no lawyer. > > You also have to look at it from this perspective. Its his home and his network. He may be held liable for things that pass in and out of that network. If the user is engaging in illegal activities, it will be the OP's internet who gets cut off (and potentially worse). Not that monitoring will really help this scenario, as the damage will have already been done. I would recommend locking the network down over a monitoring solution. Not only will it can it be more effective, but it does not require the invasion of privacy. You can use a web proxy, such as squid, to whitelist allowed sites. A quick google search turned up this that looks interesting: http://www.screaming-penguin.com/node/3871 . - -- Jordan Metzmeier -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMTydJAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTVlAQAIAqQOVW03B+GiD1pv/bQBRc h5KIMgJRBnxUt/pIHRUco4SoJoHlpt/gYa2xKAdQtL1ssSj60Vmu6aCEdnLm606C M/TY5YQDKvZ7CJWf5uXuTQF/AlN7JScRHx0bB5zchyiChwdduwCBb27rze5Hjs5j yQDKtXnNgWjwwUUNfnyqoFoCdQ/e+CM3HY/y2t8DSA+z2LyD59UdUK2tkfiLmOd+ D2mJRsDM+ILcCnkgU2PAyfgcALCmk4j6PVuLDgBKftvmzdHFE04RRZ4ZR+zi/JAD vv17SVFZ+DlQn/ewfeqWCRoz71/FE92Qixjehmo76abU51f/0mdJ0d4g1azJy1kZ TXEbdPHn3Kkh68c5BrJGMIi9X8feioNv13g5P98tbITCeyHq4v2Tzj/TCHIoR/TC XEDBr+mio9+QajamKuemNMxpmp/NKot7GHCQ5euMHtbjNRyEUGaIOJMvQuLP5dso 0oGJB1zmH0fPLYirhsRaqS7KTEA68dlt/9dRNs5XxkTzBnJB7dOtxGPwG+kY2e6S 0WSMJ76IaNiAEIZSWowrSB7yo9TlQWm31Zrfi8GH9Fe7SEYFtR71KsilBDJ9AtQD 1qr2oBPbMuvqS8g+m+VznFrPgcEMaWhd3l/8KRWvlO3AIMuaRjprRObjjFXZ3Dwm Ce975BpTGf0svQSjfvYG =vjyh -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f2749.4060...@gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 12:19 PM: > About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our > PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even > couldn't *recover* the / fs after the very first power failure test. What write operations were you performing at the time you pulled the plug? Unless you were writing the superblock it'd be almost impossible to hose the filesystem to the point it couldn't mount. Were you doing a resize operation when you pulled the plug? xfs_growfs? As far as recovery, it's automatic upon mounting the XFS filesystem. What do you mean, precisely, by "couldn't *recover* the / fs"? And apologies if my tone seemed rude. I'm basically a one man army trying to defeat misinformation WRT XFS and attempt to educate ppl with the correct information. I guess I'm feeling outnumbered and thus being more aggressive. Again, apologies. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f27d6.1070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Stan Hoeppner writes: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is > smart enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what > filesystem you use. If you're not you shouldn't be here. I guess I don't belong here then... -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ocdsrdt0@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Logwatchfreshclam log error
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:37:51 +0200, Aniruddha wrote: > I get the following error message with logwatch: (...) > # grep log /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf > # Analyzes the Clam Anti-Virus update log > # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf (this file) > # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/services/clam-update.conf > # /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/clam-update > # /var/log/clam-update The above path... > # tail /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log And this one, differ. Is that right? Maybe "logwatch" is looking into "/var/log/clam-update/ freshclam.log" and finds nothing :-? You can make a quick test and try it with the full path: *** LogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log *** Restart the service and see what happens. Remember to change it after the test. If that works, just use a custom rule under "/etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/ clam-update.conf" and put any modification there as the docs say. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.18.32...@gmail.com
Re: Monitoring tools to use on an account
On 7/27/10 12:24 PM, Mike Bird wrote: On Tue July 27 2010 09:53:40 AG wrote: Any suggestions, please? If you have the right to supervise a child then supervise them. Stay in the room and make sure they're not surfing porn. Do so openly. If you don't have the right to supervise an adult then don't spy on them. Speaking for myself, not Debian, ... --Mike Bird Nobody has any right to monitor somebody else without consent or a warrant. This is a very grey area companies play in and one the supreme court and others are trying to address and have been trying to address. In some states (especially the state I'm in) even monitoring your kids or wifes activities can cross the line into being criminal, if you're not careful, especially if you break some kind of encryption to do so. I'm no lawyer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f2450.5050...@envygeeks.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 12:03 PM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: >> >>> You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. >>> (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS >>> or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. >> >>> [1] >> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html >> >> > >> a fantastic piece of FOSS into which many top-of-their-game >> kernel engineers have put tens of thousands of man hours, striving to make >> it >> the best it can be--and are wildly succeeding. >> >> That's was very informative, thanks. You got me curious and I will test XFS > on my home system. To be honest I am still little wary of using XFS in a > production environment. For years now I have heard stories of power failures > with catastrophic results when using XFS. Anyone who using XFS in > a mission critical production environment? Anyone has experience with that? How about, and this will probably shock many of you: 1. Kernel.org All of Linux source, including what becomes the Debian kernel, and the kernels of all other Linux distros, is served from XFS filesystems: "A bit more than a year ago (as of October 2008) kernel.org, in an ever increasing need to squeeze more performance out of it's machines, made the leap of migrating the primary mirror machines (mirrors.kernel.org) to XFS. We site a number of reasons including fscking 5.5T of disk is long and painful, we were hitting various cache issues, and we were seeking better performance out of our file system." "After initial tests looked positive we made the jump, and have been quite happy with the results. With an instant increase in performance and throughput, as well as the worst xfs_check we've ever seen taking 10 minutes, we were quite happy. Subsequently we've moved all primary mirroring file-systems to XFS, including www.kernel.org , and mirrors.kernel.org. With an average constant movement of about 400mbps around the world, and with peaks into the 3.1gbps range serving thousands of users simultaneously it's been a file system that has taken the brunt we can throw at it and held up spectacularly." 2. NASA Advanced Supercomputing Facility, NASA Ames Research Center See my other post for details 3. Industrial Light and Magic -- ILM At one time ILM had one of the largest installed SGI SAN storage systems on the planet, may have been _the_ largest, running XFS. It backed their render farm(s). They don't currently have any render system info on their site that I can find. Given the number, size, and scope of their animation projects and the size to which their rendering farm has grown, they may have very well switched SAN vendors over the years. I don't know if they still use XFS or not. I would think so given that they're working with multi hundred gigabyte files daily. Many, many others. What you have to understand is that XFS has been around a long long time, 17 years in both IRIX and Linux. It's older than EXT2. Back before cheap Intel/AMD clusters took over the supercomputing marketplace, SGI MIPS IRIX systems with XFS owned upwards of 30-40% of that market. XFS in various platforms and versions has been in government labs, corporations and academia for over a decade. At one time Prof Stephen Hawking had his own "personal" 32 CPU SGI Origin 3800 for running cosmology calculations in order to prove his theories. It had XFS filesytems, as have all SGI systems since 1994. Here's a list of organizations that have volunteered information to xfs.org. It is by far not a complete list, and most of the major SGI customers with XFS on huge SAN systems aren't listed. Note NAS at NASA Ames isn't listed. http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_Companies -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f25d5.1040...@hardwarefreak.com
Assigning to new NICs the previous interface names.
Good day. How I can make best way the following: having 2 NICs in an OS (called eth0 and eth1, having iptables rules set accordingly) and exchanging one or two of them with (an)other(s) NIC(s), to make it be again (called eth0 and eth1, having iptables rules set accordingly) automatically. ? For now I have to clear up udev rules net file so that it will be filled w/ eth0 and 1 instead of 2 and 3. Then I have to review which one is set for one network, and another - for another network - according to interfaces file. Thank You for Your time. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f2387.0b07650a.3bb5.e...@mx.google.com
Re: MIB compiler Browser
On 7/27/10 12:26 PM, Stefan Fuhrmann wrote: Hello all, can someone recommend an opensource MIB compiler/ browser? tia stefan Men in black compiler? You didn't believe my email about the pew pew lazer alienz being here did you? Sometimes people take me seriously :(. No all joking aside: aptitude show mbrowse -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f22b8.3020...@envygeeks.com
Re: software for wireless check
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Aniruddha wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Paul Cartwright > wrote: >> >> # iwlist scanning >> -su: iwlist: command not found >> paulandcilla:/var/log# aptitude search iwlist >> paulandcilla:/var/log# >> >> what package is that in?? >> > > wireless-tools what about kismet ? -- roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimnbs=siwzmwm-t1jo1rmz5bjcuoobnsxjg7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Dne, 27. 07. 2010 19:48:53 je Mark napisal(a): > > NASA also trusts Windows and NTFS too? > NASA also backs up their data on 5.25" floppy disks [1]. [1] *completely made up information NASA as an authority on reliable storage? C'mon, the bozos can't even be trusted with their own Challengers, Columbias, OR the astronauts therein! -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1280254750.196...@compax
Re: software for wireless check
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 7:50 PM, Paul Cartwright wrote: > # iwlist scanning > -su: iwlist: command not found > paulandcilla:/var/log# aptitude search iwlist > paulandcilla:/var/log# > > what package is that in?? > > wireless-tools
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart > enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you use. > If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical merits > (not cost), you're uneducated and/or stubborn. You are still not getting it, don't you? We have thousands of embedded linuxes in the wild and they are just simple data aggragetors. You can't have a power backup unit in such a condition. I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart enough to know you cannot have a UPS for embedded systems, regardless of what filesystem you use. If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical merits (not cost), you're uneducated and/or stubborn. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k4ogu7on@alamut.alborz.net
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
We use XFS in production at work. Where I work, we are routinely dealing with hundreds of terabytes of data (I have heard the word "petabyte" bandied about in several meetings), so we are beyond or hovering on the edge of the size limits and performance limits of the ext filesystems. At home, I primarily do reiserfs, for the simple reason that I have had need in the past (more than one would guess) where I have needed to shrink a filesystem. In fact, I needed to do so on a box at work. Right now, I am trying to get my brain around the improvements in btrfs, and hoping that will take off as many say it will. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Aniruddha wrote: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: >> >> > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. >> > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS >> > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. >> >> > [1] >> http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html >> >> > >> a fantastic piece of FOSS into which many top-of-their-game >> kernel engineers have put tens of thousands of man hours, striving to make >> it >> the best it can be--and are wildly succeeding. >> >> That's was very informative, thanks. You got me curious and I will test > XFS on my home system. To be honest I am still little wary of using XFS in > a production environment. For years now I have heard stories of power > failures with catastrophic results when using XFS. Anyone who using XFS in > a mission critical production environment? Anyone has experience with that? >
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > > NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who > are > > you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? > ;) > > NASA also trusts Windows and NTFS too? > NASA also backs up their data on 5.25" floppy disks [1]. [1] *completely made up information
Re: software for wireless check
Dne, 27. 07. 2010 19:39:10 je Aniruddha napisal(a): You can use: # iwlist scanning Or, alternatively, airodump-ng. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1280253020.196...@compax
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue July 27 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart > enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you > use. If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical > merits (not cost), you're uneducated and/or stubborn. If you disagree on a > cost basis, your data isn't valuable, period. A decent low end UPS for a > desktop system that will get you through all brown outs and far enough > through a storm outage (15-30 minutes) to do a proper shutdown costs about > $50 USD. That's less than a carton of cigarettes in New York City, less > than 3 regular price large pizzas at Dominos, and $25 less than a tank of > gas for a full size pickup, which would last most people one week of > commute. The cost of one tank of gas for 3-5 years of power protection > before needing a battery replacement. this is something that I preach to EVERYONE who has a computer. Some people don't understand that I leave my computer plugged in & running 24/7. they give me a deer-in-the-headlights look when I tell them I don't turn my computer off. But I live in Georgia, home of MASSIVE thunderstorms. I also live at the end of a street with 110 foot tall oak & pine trees along side the road, and right next to our electric poles. In 5 years we have had 3 trees drop on wires & cause loss of power, and I've had up to 20+ entries in the apcupsd.log file in ONE day, from thunder boomers. I have THREE UPSes in my house, not just my PC, but ALL electronic equipment, TV, stero AND Dish satellite receiver. I would NEVER plug anything electronic in, in MY house WITHOUT an UPS. > > I guess I should evangelize UPS as much as XFS given the benefits. Except > XFS is free. ;) UPSes are really cheap and EXCELLENT insurance for not only your hardware, but your DATA. I won't even mention a company, and I DON'T work for them! -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 Registered Ubuntu User #12459 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007271342.01889.deb...@pcartwright.com
Re: software for wireless check
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MIB compiler Browser
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Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who are > you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? ;) NASA also trusts Windows and NTFS too? Who are you again? I think you are confusing apples and oranges. Everbody's requirements might differ, and hence do their tools. Instead of being a tech zealot, one just need to choose the right tool for the right job. I don't even think Linus is using XFS too. Isn't he a technical person in terms of your definition? So what should we do in that case? Ask to RMS? Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ocdsu93o@alamut.alborz.net
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Aniruddha put forth on 7/27/2010 9:43 AM: > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > >> >> You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. >> (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS >> or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. >> > > Ext3 has the same problems when not properly configured: > > Ext3 does not do checksumming when writing to the journal. If barrier=1 is > not enabled as a mount option (in /etc/fstab), and if the hardware is doing > out-of-order write caching, one runs the risk of severe filesystem > corruption during a crash. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#No_checksumming_in_journal > > For the record I use ext3, I remember XFS as not being reliable enough > (with power failures etc). This isn't a filesystem problem, or a kernel problem, or any other technical problem. This is a user problem. You will _never_ get computing technology the fully does what you _think_ it should upon loss of power. Period. XFS will prevent filesystem corruption (lookup the definition) but it will not prevent data loss. These are two completely different things. _No_ filesystem will fully prevent data loss when power is lost, but most will prevent filesystem corruption. Again, these are two different things. If you want maximum performance, you have to enable drive caches. Doing so causes more data loss when the power goes, and again, it's not the fault of the filesystem. If you want maximum protection against data loss, you have to disable drive caches, reduce the size of the in memory journal log buffer, etc, etc. Doing all of these things will absolutely murder your FS performance. This is a balancing act folks. You can't have your cake and eat it too. I'd also like to add that anyone smart enough to be on this list is smart enough to know you should have a UPS, regardless of what filesystem you use. If you're not you shouldn't be here. If you disagree on the technical merits (not cost), you're uneducated and/or stubborn. If you disagree on a cost basis, your data isn't valuable, period. A decent low end UPS for a desktop system that will get you through all brown outs and far enough through a storm outage (15-30 minutes) to do a proper shutdown costs about $50 USD. That's less than a carton of cigarettes in New York City, less than 3 regular price large pizzas at Dominos, and $25 less than a tank of gas for a full size pickup, which would last most people one week of commute. The cost of one tank of gas for 3-5 years of power protection before needing a battery replacement. I guess I should evangelize UPS as much as XFS given the benefits. Except XFS is free. ;) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f17db.7010...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On 7/27/2010 11:20 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Aaron Toponce put forth on 7/27/2010 10:41 AM: > >> XFS has also had a history for randomly corrupting data. While this >> might have improved over time, I don't trust it. > > Can you cite or reference anything to back your claim? Time frame? Irix or > Linux? Serious users reported this or casual/hobbyist users? If this was > ever the case the situation could not have lasted long before patches fixed > it. Have you seen SGI's customer list and the size of the systems and storage > they run with nothing but XFS? For instance, NAS has over 1.4PB of XFS > filesystems, 1PB CXFS and over 400TB XFS: We have used it three times in the past, and lost about 5TB worth of data due to corruption. The data corruption appeared to not be the result of lost power to the drive. Imperical evidence is enough for me to stop trusting it. I've also had friends who are admins that have complained of XFS data corruption, mainly with regards to booting. I don't know their specific scenarios, but they stopped using XFS as well. > NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who are > you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? ;) I guess NASA has us beat. Nothing in the PB range, that's for sure. Currently, at my location, we have about 40 TB of SAN, with another 50 TB on the way. In production, we have about 200 TB SAN. We'll be building a federated shadowing infrastructure that well have Oracle databases in 16 different locations across the United States. We're currently targeting about 20 TB in each of the 16 locations. We won't be deploying XFS. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Monitoring tools to use on an account
On Tue July 27 2010 09:53:40 AG wrote: > Any suggestions, please? If you have the right to supervise a child then supervise them. Stay in the room and make sure they're not surfing porn. Do so openly. If you don't have the right to supervise an adult then don't spy on them. Speaking for myself, not Debian, ... --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007271024.58836.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > 1. Never quote forum or email posts as empirical or reliable evidence of > anything. You're right, my bad. > You quoted this FAQ item solely based on the tile, without reading it, > in your effort to denounce XFS. The article clearly states the problem > was fixed over 3 years ago, which you conveniently ignored. I read the very same sentence, but AFAIK, default kernel for xfs bundled with lenny doesn't have that fix. > From now on, please get your facts straight, with proper > documentation, before trying to denounce a fantastic piece of FOSS > into which many top-of-their-game kernel engineers have put tens of > thousands of man hours, striving to make it the best it can be--and > are wildly succeeding. > > Join the xfs mailing list and you might learn something useful in > place of this trash you're talking about it. About a year ago, in a similar rush to yours, I ported two of our PostgreSQL database servers to XFS. During testing period, I even couldn't *recover* the / fs after the very first power failure test. Whole testing period took 1 week and the result was negative. This is my experience with XFS, and not much more thrash than your technical knowledge. And instead of being a technology zealot, you'd be better put forward some real world case scenarios. Try unplugging your xfs machineS that many timeS, and let's discuss this topic again. Yep, my findings might be deprecated, but I don't know any others investigating the same subject with recent versions. BTW, I still couldn't understand your temper and rudeness. I just share my experience, and try it, it works. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sk34u9j7@alamut.alborz.net
Re: What's with Gnome not logging out?
On 27/07/10 08:03, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 26 iul 10, 21:49:47, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20100726_205835, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 26 iul 10, 17:26:11, AG wrote: sledgehammer. The option to log out of the session under the panel menu/ system doesn't work nor does the old three-finger salute of ctrl+alt+backspace. For that you can run 'dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'. Don't ^^^ This works on my maching only if I have started X with startx, not if I start with gdm3 (using Squeeze) You could try diff'ing the logs and also look through gdm's config files. Maybe it's disabling that setting on purpose. Regards, Andrei Cheers Andrei I don't think that it is disabling it on purpose because sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. There doesn't appear to be any rhyme nor reason for when it does/ not. The associated behaviour of the keystrokes ctrl+alt+backspace is already set for logout, but again doesn't seem to work reliably. I don't know if it is GDM or Gnome, because other DE/WM allow me to logout quite reasonably and reliably. Go figure - it has me stumped (which I admit is not difficult to do, but even so). AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f0fd0.7050...@gmail.com
Monitoring tools to use on an account
Hi all I'm facing a bit of a delicate issue: I have created an account on my machine for someone staying with us, and I have strong suspicions that he is engaging in on-line behaviour that he is not supposed to be doing. Can anyone recommend a tool thatb I can install, that can monitor his on-line activity - specifically sites he visits and how much time he spends on them? A key logger might also be useful to monitor his activities. I'd need something that will mail me reports to my account without these being transparent to him. Any suggestions, please? Many thanks. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f0f14.9030...@gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Aaron Toponce put forth on 7/27/2010 10:41 AM: > XFS has also had a history for randomly corrupting data. While this > might have improved over time, I don't trust it. Can you cite or reference anything to back your claim? Time frame? Irix or Linux? Serious users reported this or casual/hobbyist users? If this was ever the case the situation could not have lasted long before patches fixed it. Have you seen SGI's customer list and the size of the systems and storage they run with nothing but XFS? For instance, NAS has over 1.4PB of XFS filesystems, 1PB CXFS and over 400TB XFS: http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Resources/Systems/columbia.html http://www.nas.nasa.gov/Resources/Systems/archive_storage.html NASA trusts it with over 1PB of storage, but _you_ don't trust it? Who are you again? How many hundreds of TB of storage do you manage on EXT3/4? ;) -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f1551.8010...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > > > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. > > > [1] > http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html > > > a fantastic piece of FOSS into which many top-of-their-game > kernel engineers have put tens of thousands of man hours, striving to make > it > the best it can be--and are wildly succeeding. > > That's was very informative, thanks. You got me curious and I will test XFS on my home system. To be honest I am still little wary of using XFS in a production environment. For years now I have heard stories of power failures with catastrophic results when using XFS. Anyone who using XFS in a mission critical production environment? Anyone has experience with that?
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 09:51:53 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Lisi put forth on 7/27/2010 2:23 AM: > > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > > > Stan - > > > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? > > Sure. Thanks, Stan, for a lucid and erudite exposition. Much appreciated. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007271731.34069.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Volkan YAZICI put forth on 7/27/2010 8:22 AM: > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. > [1] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html 1. Never quote forum or email posts as empirical or reliable evidence of anything. They are opinion, unless they quote fact from reliable sources to back that opinion (which I did in my original post). There are of course exceptions to this rule of thumb, the main one being when the post is made by a developer who is a recognized authority on the piece of software being discussed. In the case of XFS this would be Dave Chinner, Alex Elder, Eric Sandeen, Christoph Hellwig, and others. In the case of EXT2/3/4 this would be Ted Tso, who happens, BTW, to work hand in hand with the XFS developers because they rely on each others patches to other parts of the Linux kernel. Not the last two entries: https://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-fsdevel/2010/7/16/expand In the case of Postfix this would be Wietse Venema and Viktor Duchovni. In the case of Linux this would be Linus Torvalds, Marcelo Tosatti, Alan Cox, Andrew Morton and others. Etc. 2. If you are going to quote opinions from unreliable sources, at least read the entire thread before quoting it. In this case, again, your source contradicts what you state, and then, oddly, himself: "PS. Apparently they've improved some power-failure problems with XFS since I used it, but then they also said that *before* I started using it so I can't say I'd put any trust in that." Aneurin Price admits he is aware of new changes that fix the problem, but then discounts the fact and gives an anecdotal story as to why the fix isn't really a fix. > [2] http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Why_do_I_see_binary_NULLS_in_some_files_after_recovery_when_I_unplugged_the_power.3F You didn't even read the information you linked to, which contradicts what you state: The fix for this issue has been in mainline since May 2007, over 3 years ago. "Q: Why do I see binary NULLS in some files after recovery when I unplugged the power? Update: This issue has been addressed with a CVS fix on the 29th March 2007 and merged into mainline on 8th May 2007 for 2.6.22-rc1." > And considering > my personal experiences, reiserfs is the fastest fs (among ext3 and xfs) > in terms of boot recovery phase times. So, given that XFS recovery of any size filesystem is less than one second, reiserfs recovery is so much less than 1 second that you notice the difference? From: http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netos/article.php/623661/XFS-Its-worth-the-wait.htm "XFS also provides file system journaling. This means that XFS uses database recovery techniques to recover a consistent file system state after a system crash. Using journaling, XFS is able to accomplish this recovery in under a second, regardless of the file system size." > [1] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html Here you quoted misinformation, because the opinions were based on experience the OPs had with the software before it was patched to fix the problem, i.e. more than 3 years ago. You treated this as empirical evidence in your argument against XFS. I have shown this to be incorrect. > [2] > http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Why_do_I_see_binary_NULLS_in_some_files_after_recovery_when_I_unplugged_the_power.3F You quoted this FAQ item solely based on the tile, without reading it, in your effort to denounce XFS. The article clearly states the problem was fixed over 3 years ago, which you conveniently ignored. >From now on, please get your facts straight, with proper documentation, before trying to denounce a fantastic piece of FOSS into which many top-of-their-game kernel engineers have put tens of thousands of man hours, striving to make it the best it can be--and are wildly succeeding. Join the xfs mailing list and you might learn something useful in place of this trash you're talking about it. Better yet, read what Hans Reiser had to say about XFS. He was totally enamored with it, and wanted to duplicate many of its features: http://www.osnews.com/story/69 Hans Reiser: "XFS is an excellent file system, and there is an important area where XFS is higher performance than we are...ReiserFS does a complete tree traversal for every 4k block it writes, and then it inserts one pointer at a time into the tree, which means that every 4k write incurs the overhead of a balancing of the tree (which means it moves data around). For this reason, XFS has better very large file performance...If you want to stream multi-media data for Hollywood style applications, or use ACLs now rather than wait for Reiser4, you might want to use XFS." "This is an area we are still experimenting with. We currently do what ext2 does, and preallocate blocks. What XFS does is much
Re: Checking burned image is ok
On 07/27/2010 01:50 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > > I am looking for a way to check I did burn my debian installer iso > properly. I am trying: > > $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso > > This works on CD-RW, but it fails on CD-R with the following: > > cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error > > Has anyone seen this before ? How else could I check the CD-R is > actually properly burned ? > > Thanks ! Others have posted regarding using check sums. The "advantage" to using 'cmp' is you get a byte by byte, exact match check. If that's what you want or need, use Cesar Garcia's suggestion to get the parameters of your CD image and use dd to read the disk, only instead of piping the output to md5sum, do this: dd | cmp - debian.iso which compares the stdin from dd with the file. This will avoid the error you noted above. The "problem" with using cmp directly on the device has to do with how the device driver handles what would be considered EOF. All that happened in your cmp run was an attempt to read beyond the end of the device. Unless 'cmp' produced a "files differ: byte , line yyy" type of message, the 'cmp' actually succeeded in properly comparing the two images. -- Bob McGowan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4f00a3.6080...@symantec.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On 7/27/2010 1:23 AM, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > Stan - > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? Except XFS filesystems can't shrink, only grow. Sucks when you need to resize partitions/volumes, and they're all XFS. Further, XFS makes more system calls to the kernel than standard Ext2/3/4. Export an XFS filesystem on LVM over NFS, and you'll get a kernel oops on a 32-bit kernel. Trace it, and you'll see the plethora of nested system calls XFS makes. You won't oops with Ext2/3/4 in the same scenario. This can be mitigated by running a 64-bit system, if you have the hardware to do so. XFS has also had a history for randomly corrupting data. While this might have improved over time, I don't trust it. XFS does have dynamic inode allocation, and better data storage algorithms than the Ext-family. It's also a good performer, but Ext4 give XFS a run for its money. -- . O . O . O . . O O . . . O . . . O . O O O . O . O O . . O O O O . O . . O O O O . O O O signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:38:23 +, Harishankar wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
>> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
>> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
>> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
>
> Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
> provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate
> PPD from another website and try using that instead?
Latest available PPD file descriptor for you printer is (or seems to be)
"3.10.6.15". What version do you have installed (PPD files are stored
under "/etc/cups/ppd")?
> I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
> uninstall HPLIP?
No, don't unistall HPLIP. Just check the PPD file is up-to-date.
If not, you can download the "tar.gz¹" and extract *only* the PPD file
you need (/hplip-3.10.6/ppd/hpcups/...) so you can add a new printer in
CUPS using that file (_do not delete_ the current printer, just _add_
another one. If neither works, you can easily delete the new printer and
wait until HP corrects the bug).
¹ http://sourceforge.net/projects/hplip/files/
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Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Volkan YAZICI wrote: > > You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. > (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS > or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. > Ext3 has the same problems when not properly configured: Ext3 does not do checksumming when writing to the journal. If barrier=1 is not enabled as a mount option (in /etc/fstab), and if the hardware is doing out-of-order write caching, one runs the risk of severe filesystem corruption during a crash. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3#No_checksumming_in_journal For the record I use ext3, I remember XFS as not being reliable enough (with power failures etc).
Re: HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:16:34 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:29:45 +, Harishankar wrote:
>
>> I'm using HPLIP /CUPS with the hpcups driver to print using my hp psc
>> 1315 printer.
>>
>> Has anybody had the issue that during a print job it is impossible to
>> ask the printer to use both the B&W and colour cartridge at the same
>> time? I mean, if you select Normal Color it prints even black text
>> using the colour cartridge (giving a non-sharp brownish grey effect)
>> and when I select Normal Greyscale it is impossible to print in colour?
>
> (...)
>
> I have that options for my HP colour laserjet printer (using a PPD file,
> CUPS PS driver, not HPLIP):
>
> ***
> Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only Graphics Neutral Grays: 4
> colour / [x] black only Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black
> only ***
>
> Those options are pretty close to its counterpart windows driver and can
> be changed at real time for each print.
>
>> I had the same problem using HPIJS drivers as well but the HPCUPS
>> haven't solved the problem either?
>>
>> Has anybody ever successfully printed a multi-coloured document with
>> both the B&W and colour cartridge used where black is printed using the
>> B&W cartridge and other colours printed using the colour cartridge like
>> in Windows?
>>
>> This seems closely related to this bug report:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+sour ... bug/235399
>>
>> Seems nobody at HP have resolved the issue related to Linux printing or
>> am I doing something wrong?
>
> Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
> ("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
> instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using
> HPLIP, just the provided PPD file)? :-?
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
Thanks for the response. Actually I have chosen the default driver
provided by the hpcups package in Debian. Should I download a separate PPD
from another website and try using that instead?
I configured the printer using the CUPS interface only. Should I
uninstall HPLIP?
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Logwatchfreshclam log error
I get the following error message with logwatch: -- No updates detected in the log for the freshclam daemon (the ClamAV update process). -- I already filed a bug because imo the default settings aren't working. Now I try to solve this but I can't pinpoint the exact root cause. Freshclam is working and running. I tried creating a 'clam-update.conf' with the correct path, this didn't work. Anyone else who has an idea what might be the problem? Thanks in advance! Some relevant information: --- # cat /usr/share/logwatch/dist.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf LogFile = /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log # /etc/init.d/clamav-freshclam status freshclam is running. # grep log /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf# Analyzes the Clam Anti-Virus update log # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf (this file) # /usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/services/clam-update.conf # /usr/share/logwatch/scripts/services/clam-update # /var/log/clam-update # alert, you should delete the logfile. If there's no logfile, no alerts # will be output - but if Logwatch finds a logfile and no update attempts LogFile = freshclam.log LogFile = clamav/freshclam.log Archive = freshclam.log.* Archive = clamav/freshclam.log.* Archive = archiv/freshclam.log.* # tail /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log Tue Jul 27 15:39:24 2010 -> ClamAV update process started at Tue Jul 27 15:39:24 2010 Tue Jul 27 15:39:24 2010 -> main.cvd is up to date (version: 52, sigs: 704727, f-level: 44, builder: sven) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> nonblock_connect: connect timing out (30 secs) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> Can't connect to port 80 of host db.local.clamav.net (IP: 192.121.13.5) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> Trying host db.local.clamav.net (193.1.193.64)... Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> Downloading daily-11440.cdiff [100%] Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> daily.cld updated (version: 11440, sigs: 107962, f-level: 53, builder: arnaud) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> bytecode.cld is up to date (version: 32, sigs: 8, f-level: 53, builder: edwin) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> Database updated (812697 signatures) from db.local.clamav.net (IP: 193.1.193.64) Tue Jul 27 15:39:54 2010 -> -- Logwatch error message: - clam-update Begin No updates detected in the log for the freshclam daemon (the ClamAV update process). If the freshclam daemon is not running, you may need to restart it. Other options: A. If you no longer wish to run freshclam, deleting the log file (default is freshclam.log) will suppress this error message. B. If you use a different log file, update the appropriate configuration file. For example: echo "LogFile = log_file" >> /etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf where log_file is the filename of the freshclam log file. C. If you are logging using syslog, you need to indicate that your log file uses the syslog format. For example: echo "*OnlyService = freshclam" >> /etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf echo "*RemoveHeaders" >> /etc/logwatch/conf/logfiles/clam-update.conf -- clam-update End - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4eef3f.90...@gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Stan Hoeppner writes: > 1. Best overall performance for most systems, large and small, and the FS > creation and mounting parameters are super configurable to match the system > hardware for best performance. One recent set of recent benchmarks > demonstrating so: > http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2010-04-14_2004/2.6.34-rc3/2.6.34-rc3.html > > man mkfs.xfs > man mount > > Older benchmarks: > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 > http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1479435 > > In regard to this last benchmark, some(many?) of the default XFS filesystem > creation parameters and mounting parameters have changed. Note the testing > was performed in 2005. A lot changes in 5 years. Read all you can and ask > questions on the XFS mailing list before tweaking parameters based on what you > find in old forum posts and benchmarks such as this. > > Guaranteed Rate I/O for streaming and other critical applications--unique to > XFS amongst all filesytems, ever, not just on Linux--this feature was born on > IRIX XFS for the broadcasting industry where video stutter was basically death > to a TV station or network such as CNN, CBS, etc. This single feature from > SGI allowed broadcast media to wholesale convert from tape to disk (this and > SGI FC storage arrays) > > 2. Commercial origin and backing. SGI is a fantastic technology compay: > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ > > 3. Maturity/history/longevity, IRIX birth in 1993, Linux birth 2001, included > in mainline in late 2003: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=107088371607817&w=2 > > 4. Equal/superior user space toolset: > xfsprogs - includes online defragmentation tool xfs_fsr and online growth tool > xfs_growfs. No other stable Linux FS has an online defragmenter. Ext4 has > e4defrag but AFAIK it's not complete nor close to maturity or stability. > xfs_fsr has been both for a decade. > > 5. Very active developer community and thorough documentation: > http://xfs.org/index.php/Main_Page You are missing a very important point: Durability to power failures. (Excuse me, but a majority of GNU/Linux users are not switched to a UPS or something.) And that's where XFS totally fails[1][2]. And considering my personal experiences, reiserfs is the fastest fs (among ext3 and xfs) in terms of boot recovery phase times. Regards. [1] http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-11/msg00097.html [2] http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Why_do_I_see_binary_NULLS_in_some_files_after_recovery_when_I_unplugged_the_power.3F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bp9tuki8@alamut.alborz.net
Re: seeking mbox of debian-user from 7-10-2010 to 7-19-2010
* Camaleón [100727 06:07]: > > Does anyone know if such mbox files are available anywhere? > > Gmane¹ does: > > http://download.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/385898/386562 > > "Majordomo" could be another option. Maybe you can request to the > list server it sends the losts e-mails :-? > > ¹ http://gmane.org/export.php Thanks for pointing this out! I ended up wget'ing Stan's offering, but this is a good option to know about. John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100727132303.ga12...@s70206.gridserver.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 01:51, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Debian will _always_ default to an EXT* filesystem--until the end of time. Nope, btrfs will replace ext3/4 as default soon enough. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=hgrom682lbgmypx44uqj2dg25jwxzhivva...@mail.gmail.com
Re: External USB HDD : files disappeared
Le 27/07/2010 12:22, Jordon Bedwell a écrit : On 7/27/10 4:40 AM, rudu wrote: Any reference on that? I remember reading about some errors that Windows was not able to repair, but the equivalent Linux tools did. What you hear and what's true are two different things. It's Microsoft's technology, they would be better with it than anybody else. Regardless of what anybody says. That's like claiming OSX is better at working with EXT4 than Linux. I can't trust build in windows utilities as I'm sure they would delete every incoherent data. Entirely illogical thinking. The files are already unavailable, and if those sectors are dead (which could be possible as this does sound like a typical dying drive) well, you can figure out that logic. Windows ckdisk does not "delete" files, you are assuming that Windows is a bad guy, this is typical. Did you hear? The aliens are here and they brought their pew pew lazer guns. If you are that scared, uncheck the automatic repair and only checking. Sorry for being mean but it had to be done. And, no, I'm no windows fan-boy, I work from Debian mostly and main OS X but I also run enough Windows servers to know that Windows is not what everybody says it is. Ok Jordon, understood. I unchecked the automatic repair of the graphic checking utility, but I only got an Ok dialog telling me that the checking was finished. So I opened a command line window and hit: chkdsk E: Every empty directory was reported as an invalid link and at the end : (sorry, it's french) Vérification des fichiers et des dossiers terminée. Convertir les liens perdus en fichiers (O/N) ? N 172758304 Ko d'espace disque seront libérés. // disk space to be freed Windows a détecté des problèmes sur le système de fichiers. Exécutez CHKDSK avec l'option /F pour les corriger. 488 264 736 Ko d'espace disque au total. // Total 256 Ko dans 8 fichiers cachés.// hiden files 31 232 Ko dans 969 dossiers. // directories 32 648 320 Ko dans 15 035 fichiers. // files 282 826 592 Ko sont disponibles. // free 32 768 octets dans chaque unité d'allocation. 15 258 273 unités d'allocation au total sur le disque. 8 838 331 unités d'allocation disponibles sur le disque. Well if I let it free the disk space, I suppose that I definitively loose the names of the directories and the files still visible ? I'm still trying to find an alternative, if it exists ... Thanks, Jean-Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4ed850.6080...@cegetel.net
Re: No OpenCMS Debian package?
Nick Porter schreef: Hi all, Anybody know why OpenCMS isn't in the package archive? Not sure on the legalities of it but might it be something to do with the LGPL it's licensed under? LGPL is fine according to the Debian FSF standards, as far as I know. The reason is probably just that nobody took the effort. For CMSses in Debian, check eg. drupal, wordpress, zope, typo. Although usually there's no real reason to install anything outside /var/www, so installing your favourite cms from upstream is almost as easy as doing a aptitude install. Sjoerd signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
No OpenCMS Debian package?
Hi all, Anybody know why OpenCMS isn't in the package archive? Not sure on the legalities of it but might it be something to do with the LGPL it's licensed under? -- np -- Tradar Limited is a limited company registered in England and Wales. Registered number: 3431380. Registered office: 11 Conway Street, London. W1T 6BL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/c145ba96ad0c234e9319a75a4fcda579256f889...@uk-cro-s004.tradar.com
Re: [aptitude] reinstall configuration files
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 14:16 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote: > How to reinstall the configuration files for a package without > running the purge command? (because of dependencies) Run: aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" reinstall and (intentionally?) deleted configuration files will be installed again. Kind regards Wolodja -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: bind9 problems
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[aptitude] reinstall configuration files
How to reinstall the configuration files for a package without running the purge command? (because of dependencies) Thanks in advance! Panayiotis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4ec021.7060...@gmail.com
Re: how do I know if CPU temperature exceed max limit
On 7/27/10 2:26 AM, Joe wrote: On 27/07/10 06:56, Long Wind wrote: (sorry, this question isn't debian specific) I have a P3/550, SECC2 I get its manual from Intel It says max T junction is 80 C The motherboard BIOS reports CPU temperature but is the reported value equal to T junction? That doesn't sound right. A typical maximum junction temperature for most semiconductors would be about 200C. 80C might be right for the maximum temperature for the heatsink area on the CPU package, which in those days would probably be the whole top of the case. A junction temperature of 80C would imply a heatsink temperature of about 20C-30C, which would be difficult to maintain, and probably no more than about 10MHz clock speed. Doesn't sound like a P3. I'm sorry but lolwut, Joe? The T-Junction max for most Intel processors is between 60-100c and your processor will shut itself down when it reaches these temperatures... 200c, lol, this isn't a mobile processor. Anyways, Pentium 3's do not use Tjunction they use Tcase, which is what your motherboard is reporting, and for most Pentium 3's it is 68°C which means if you were to try and guess Tjunction if it were there, it would be around, 80-85c (depending on which way you round) max internal temperature before it shuts down. And Joe, in the future, don't give false information while confusing TJunction with Junction and the definition of "TJunction" on Google. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4ebe0a.2090...@envygeeks.com
Re: how do I know if CPU temperature exceed max limit
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:45:19 -0400, Long Wind wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:56:29 -0400, Long Wind wrote:
>>
>>> (sorry, this question isn't debian specific) I have a P3/550, SECC2 I
>>> get its manual from Intel
>>> It says max T junction is 80 C
>>> The motherboard BIOS reports CPU temperature but is the reported value
>>> equal to T junction?
>>
>> Mmm... I have heard that some motherboard manufacturers read "T case"
>> value instead "T junction" and display that number in the BIOS ("CPU
>> Temp").
>>
>> You can also take a look into "lm-sensors", a nice tool for that, and
>> compare values from both sources.
> Thanks to all those who reply!
> According to the motherboard manual:
>
> CPU temperature is monitored ... thru the CPU's internal thermal diode.
Then, as per Intel docs, thermal diode reading gives you the "T junction"
value:
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http://www.intel.com/support/processors/pentiumiii/sb/cs-007589.htm
(2) The junction temperature (TJ) can be determined using the thermal
diode in the processor core. For more information, see the AP-905 Pentium
III Processor Thermal Design Guidelines (order # 245087).
***
THT
Greetings,
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Re: how do I know if CPU temperature exceed max limit
Thanks to all those who reply!
According to the motherboard manual:
CPU temperature is monitored ... thru the CPU's internal thermal diode.
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 01:56:29 -0400, Long Wind wrote:
>
>> (sorry, this question isn't debian specific) I have a P3/550, SECC2
>> I get its manual from Intel
>> It says max T junction is 80 C
>> The motherboard BIOS reports CPU temperature but is the reported value
>> equal to T junction?
>
> Mmm... I have heard that some motherboard manufacturers read "T case"
> value instead "T junction" and display that number in the BIOS ("CPU
> Temp").
>
> You can also take a look into "lm-sensors", a nice tool for that, and
> compare values from both sources.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón
>
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Re: Checking burned image is ok
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Cesar Garcia wrote: > Hi! > > try it with md5sum: > > $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso > > $ dd /dev/cdrom bs=$blocksize count=$blockcount conv=notrunc,noerror | > md5sum > > The variable, $blocksize, $bolkcount, depend of the CD or DVD, to > get this info: > > $ isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom > > the result must be the same. That seems to have worked ok: $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom CD-ROM is in ISO 9660 format System id: LINUX Volume id: Debian 5.0.5 ppc Bin-1 Volume set id: Publisher id: Data preparer id: Application id: GENISOIMAGE ISO 9660/HFS FILESYSTEM CREATOR (C) 1993 E.YOUNGDALE (C) 1997-2006 J.PEARSON/J.SCHILLING (C) 2006-2007 CDRKIT TEAM Copyright File id: Abstract File id: Bibliographic File id: Volume set size is: 1 Volume set sequence number is: 1 Logical block size is: 2048 Volume size is: 102188 NO Joliet present Rock Ridge signatures version 1 found $ dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=2048 count=102188 conv=notrunc,noerror | md5sum 102188+0 records in 102188+0 records out 209281024 bytes (209 MB) copied, 56.3156 s, 3.7 MB/s 86268f3a463460828ec12831d6520df7 - Thanks ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinydm5_xgtg4bhzucqhkmtf2tzgjoganaptd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Checking burned image is ok
Hi! try it with md5sum: $ md5sum debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso $ dd /dev/cdrom bs=$blocksize count=$blockcount conv=notrunc,noerror | md5sum The variable, $blocksize, $bolkcount, depend of the CD or DVD, to get this info: $ isoinfo -d -i /dev/cdrom the result must be the same. El 27/07/10 10:50, Mathieu Malaterre escribió: > Hi there, > > I am looking for a way to check I did burn my debian installer iso > properly. I am trying: > > $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso > > This works on CD-RW, but it fails on CD-R with the following: > > cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error > > Has anyone seen this before ? How else could I check the CD-R is > actually properly burned ? > > Thanks ! > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4eb40e.3090...@gmail.com
Re: Checking burned image is ok
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:50:09 +0200, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > I am looking for a way to check I did burn my debian installer iso > properly. IIRC, Debian installer provides a "check media CD" option, so you can use that. > I am trying: > > $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso > > This works on CD-RW, but it fails on CD-R with the following: > > cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error > > Has anyone seen this before ? How else could I check the CD-R is > actually properly burned ? I think you could just: cd /media/cdrom md5sum -c md5sum.txt Also, it seems to be a "checkiso" script that can be useful for this task. http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html#verify Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.10.23...@gmail.com
Re: External USB HDD : files disappeared
On 7/27/10 4:40 AM, rudu wrote: Any reference on that? I remember reading about some errors that Windows was not able to repair, but the equivalent Linux tools did. What you hear and what's true are two different things. It's Microsoft's technology, they would be better with it than anybody else. Regardless of what anybody says. That's like claiming OSX is better at working with EXT4 than Linux. I can't trust build in windows utilities as I'm sure they would delete every incoherent data. Entirely illogical thinking. The files are already unavailable, and if those sectors are dead (which could be possible as this does sound like a typical dying drive) well, you can figure out that logic. Windows ckdisk does not "delete" files, you are assuming that Windows is a bad guy, this is typical. Did you hear? The aliens are here and they brought their pew pew lazer guns. If you are that scared, uncheck the automatic repair and only checking. Sorry for being mean but it had to be done. And, no, I'm no windows fan-boy, I work from Debian mostly and main OS X but I also run enough Windows servers to know that Windows is not what everybody says it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4eb348.4060...@envygeeks.com
Re: External USB HDD : files disappeared
Le 27/07/2010 09:10, Andrei Popescu a écrit : On Lu, 26 iul 10, 17:22:05, Jordon Bedwell wrote: have the same problem. If you do Repair it from the Windows partition as well since Windows is far better with FAT and NTFS than any other operating system and then check again. If they're still missing post back and let us know and we'll go from there. Any reference on that? I remember reading about some errors that Windows was not able to repair, but the equivalent Linux tools did. Regards, Andrei Andrei, Jordon, Thanks for your help. I mounted the Drive from a Win XP pro laptop. Same story: from the 5 directories at the root of the drive, 3 are Ok and I can browse them and read any file I want. The two others are holding empty directories and 0b files ... Same incoherence between the global occupation (~ 200GB) and the defrag utility report (~ 30GB). I can't trust build in windows utilities as I'm sure they would delete every incoherent data. Does all this ring somebody's bell ? Apart from using photorec which would save thousands of weirdly named files, is there still a chance to get them with their original names and hopefully in their original directory path ? TIA Jean-Marc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4ea9a7.8070...@cegetel.net
Re: Subnet
David Baron wrote: > dhcpd complains about lack of subnet declaration. > 1. What would use? > 2. Do I need it? > 3. Do I need dhcpd (it fails to start and this effect nothing)? man dhcpd ==> 'Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol Server'. The key word here is "Server". Unless you intend your box to be serving DHCP (i.e. answering other boxes' requests for IP addresses) then you don't need it. In most SOHO configurations, the xDSL router is the gizmo that runs a DHCP server, and everything else uses a DHCP client to obtain an IP address from that server. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8ih2i7x3g1@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: unbelievable, #...@%%!! grub breaks for me AGAIN
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 5:18 PM, wrote: > > I recovered by editing the grub commands using the 'e' command and by some > miracle got the thing to ask me what my boot disk is AFTER booting. > very strange. here's the best part. I gave it the same device grub > "couldn't find" and the system booted just fine. *...@$&! grub. > > so I'm not sure what I need to provide to have some kind soul help me > with this, so I'll just describe the problem and maybe somebody can > tell me what additional info to provide. > > the problem, of course, is that it times out and tells me it can't find > (?) the root filesystem. > > I've run update-grub, and it things everything is just hunky dory. > insert cursing here. > > here's the menu entry that DOESN'T WORK (the linux line is wrapped) : > > insmod part_msdos > insmod ext2 > set root='(hd0,msdos2)' > search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 > linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 > root=UUID=a948d6b6-8395-49a1-9f0f-21a10ceee9c2 ro quiet > initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 > > I have checked the uuid's using "search" from the command line in the booted, > working system and it agrees with what grub is using. > > I _think_, but am not sure, that when I used 'e' to edit the grub commands I > DELETED the search command and replaced the uuid with /dev/sda2 in the linux > command. > > two things seem odd to me. > > 1 /dev/sda2 is a linux partition so what's up with insmod part_msdos and why > is set root (hd0, msdos2) ?? > > 2 why is it insmod'ing ext2 when / is an ext3 filesystem ? > > Any help greatly appreciated. I'm going to have to reboot this thing > someday, and I'd like to know how to fix this. > > more importantly, why does grub not know that it's broken ??!! The "tells me it can't find (?) the root filesystem" usually happens once you have gone beyond grub and your initramfs tries to mount and to switch to your root filesystem. The "insmod ext2" is for an ext2/ext3/ext4 /boot. ext3 and ext4 can be thought of as ext2 with extra properties and features... The "insmod part_msdos" is unusual. I have only ever seen it be added to grub.cfg for an mdadm'd /boot, but it doesn't hurt. If for some reason it isn't included in core.img, it helps. The "(hd0,msdos2)" is new (I have it when I use the latest grub2 in sid). It seems to be (hd0,2) with the added info that this is a disk with an msdos partition table. When I install sid or maverick on a gpt disk, I get "insmod part_gpt" and "(hd0,gpt2)... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktins5npyzryg8q1qd-w=a=7gwt7+=3ojs_y_5...@mail.gmail.com
Checking burned image is ok
Hi there, I am looking for a way to check I did burn my debian installer iso properly. I am trying: $ cmp /dev/cdrom debian-505-powerpc-netinst.iso This works on CD-RW, but it fails on CD-R with the following: cmp: /dev/cdrom: Input/output error Has anyone seen this before ? How else could I check the CD-R is actually properly burned ? Thanks ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimcvauw2acdqojkacegnc+m1_rfmr1zw1rpp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
Lisi put forth on 7/27/2010 2:23 AM: > On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. > > Stan - > > Have you the time to give a rationale for this? Sure. 1. Best overall performance for most systems, large and small, and the FS creation and mounting parameters are super configurable to match the system hardware for best performance. One recent set of recent benchmarks demonstrating so: http://btrfs.boxacle.net/repository/raid/2010-04-14_2004/2.6.34-rc3/2.6.34-rc3.html man mkfs.xfs man mount Older benchmarks: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388 http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1479435 In regard to this last benchmark, some(many?) of the default XFS filesystem creation parameters and mounting parameters have changed. Note the testing was performed in 2005. A lot changes in 5 years. Read all you can and ask questions on the XFS mailing list before tweaking parameters based on what you find in old forum posts and benchmarks such as this. Guaranteed Rate I/O for streaming and other critical applications--unique to XFS amongst all filesytems, ever, not just on Linux--this feature was born on IRIX XFS for the broadcasting industry where video stutter was basically death to a TV station or network such as CNN, CBS, etc. This single feature from SGI allowed broadcast media to wholesale convert from tape to disk (this and SGI FC storage arrays) 2. Commercial origin and backing. SGI is a fantastic technology compay: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ 3. Maturity/history/longevity, IRIX birth in 1993, Linux birth 2001, included in mainline in late 2003: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFS http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=107088371607817&w=2 4. Equal/superior user space toolset: xfsprogs - includes online defragmentation tool xfs_fsr and online growth tool xfs_growfs. No other stable Linux FS has an online defragmenter. Ext4 has e4defrag but AFAIK it's not complete nor close to maturity or stability. xfs_fsr has been both for a decade. 5. Very active developer community and thorough documentation: http://xfs.org/index.php/Main_Page > I'm not in any way impugning your knowledge. But I am at the stage of > accepting the default that Lenny gives me, for no better reason than that the > developers chose it and it is there. It is time I understood better the > reasons for each file system. (I gave up Reiserfs because Reiser murdered > his wife - hardly a logical measure of how good his filesystem is!!) Debian will _always_ default to an EXT* filesystem--until the end of time. Then again, I thought the same of LILO, so what do I know eh? But expert install mode allows you whatever you want. I never cared for ReiserFS and never used it. Hans actions are just further justification after the fact. I've only used XFS on servers. I've never used it on laptops or desktops. I know of many people who have, but they are die hard propeller heads and know how to fix anything if/when it breaks. If you want to run XFS on a laptop or desktop, especially on Debian, your only downside is going to be getting quick help, if you get jammed, from folks on this list, or the community in general. That process will probably not be as quick and fruitful as with EXT2/3 issues, simply because there are a lot less people using XFS, thus the pool of helpers is much smaller. If you're adventurous, take XFS for a spin. Partition a 100MB /boot and install everything else on a big partition running XFS. And, learn the utility set, and learn about XFS, just as you have (or should have) with EXT2/3 and ReiserFS. As always, knowledge is power. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4e9e29.4050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: HP PSC 1315 printer and hplip/hpcups printer cartridge mode issue
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 05:29:45 +, Harishankar wrote:
> I'm using HPLIP /CUPS with the hpcups driver to print using my hp psc
> 1315 printer.
>
> Has anybody had the issue that during a print job it is impossible to
> ask the printer to use both the B&W and colour cartridge at the same
> time? I mean, if you select Normal Color it prints even black text using
> the colour cartridge (giving a non-sharp brownish grey effect) and when
> I select Normal Greyscale it is impossible to print in colour?
(...)
I have that options for my HP colour laserjet printer (using a PPD file,
CUPS PS driver, not HPLIP):
***
Text Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Graphics Neutral Grays: 4 colour / [x] black only
Photographs Neutral Grays: [x] 4 colour / black only
***
Those options are pretty close to its counterpart windows driver and can
be changed at real time for each print.
> I had the same problem using HPIJS drivers as well but the HPCUPS
> haven't solved the problem either?
>
> Has anybody ever successfully printed a multi-coloured document with
> both the B&W and colour cartridge used where black is printed using the
> B&W cartridge and other colours printed using the colour cartridge like
> in Windows?
>
> This seems closely related to this bug report:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+sour ... bug/235399
>
> Seems nobody at HP have resolved the issue related to Linux printing or
> am I doing something wrong?
Have you tried by downloading the latest PPD file for your printer
("hpcups 3.10.6.15" or "hpijs 3.10.6.15") and adding a new printer
instance with CUPS in the old fashioned way (I mean, without using HPLIP,
just the provided PPD file)? :-?
Greetings,
--
Camaleón
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Re: is this result of keylogger? am i hacked?
Hi On 07/27/2010 02:38 AM, Rob Owens wrote: You can apt-get install things in Knoppix. It'll just install it using available RAM, and won't actually write it to the disk. I did not have internet for some time at that machine. Now I get internet and installed cryptsetup. But now I have another problem - lvm volume is not recognized (see my other mail in this thread). Same problem happen on Debian Live DVD. -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a0g2i7-4ql@legba.gamic.com
Re: Depreciated warning I can't quite read
On 07/27/2010 10:26 AM, Alan Chandler wrote: > Seeing someone else ask a question about where boot messages are > logged, reminds me of an issue I have been wondering about for a few > weeks > > During bootup of my system, very early in the process, I am getting > some messages appear on the screen very briefly which mention > > udevd > SYSFS > depreciated > > Its a warning of some sort, but it flies past so fast that I can't > really read what it is saying. > > This is my desktop system, which originally ran debian unstable - but > a couple of months ago I replaced unstable with squeeze in my > sources.list and have been allowing the system to migrate into that mode. > > I am not sure if this message is a legacy, or everyone is seeing > something similar. > > Anyone any idea what these messages might be and how I can rectify the > whatever it is complaining about (just being able to see what the > message says might also help). Maybe something like that? http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=582639 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: seeking mbox of debian-user from 7-10-2010 to 7-19-2010
John Magolske put forth on 7/27/2010 1:09 AM: > Hi, > > In the process of switching hosting providers I managed to interrupt > my email flow, so I'm missing debian-user mail from July 10-19. http://www.hardwarefreak.com/deb-user-7.10-7.19.gz Lemme know if you have any problems with it. It's a zipped Dovecot mbox file. Should be fine. File size: 748K -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4e8b66.2030...@hardwarefreak.com
Subnet
I have no subnet declared anywhere (that I know of). I have eth0 to a router on 10.100.101.100 dhcpd complains about lack of subnet declaration. 1. What would use? 2. Do I need it? 3. Do I need dhcpd (it fails to start and this effect nothing)? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007271008.58196.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: how do I know if CPU temperature exceed max limit
On 27/07/10 06:56, Long Wind wrote: (sorry, this question isn't debian specific) I have a P3/550, SECC2 I get its manual from Intel It says max T junction is 80 C The motherboard BIOS reports CPU temperature but is the reported value equal to T junction? That doesn't sound right. A typical maximum junction temperature for most semiconductors would be about 200C. 80C might be right for the maximum temperature for the heatsink area on the CPU package, which in those days would probably be the whole top of the case. A junction temperature of 80C would imply a heatsink temperature of about 20C-30C, which would be difficult to maintain, and probably no more than about 10MHz clock speed. Doesn't sound like a P3. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4e8a24.3040...@jretrading.com
Depreciated warning I can't quite read
Seeing someone else ask a question about where boot messages are logged, reminds me of an issue I have been wondering about for a few weeks During bootup of my system, very early in the process, I am getting some messages appear on the screen very briefly which mention udevd SYSFS depreciated Its a warning of some sort, but it flies past so fast that I can't really read what it is saying. This is my desktop system, which originally ran debian unstable - but a couple of months ago I replaced unstable with squeeze in my sources.list and have been allowing the system to migrate into that mode. I am not sure if this message is a legacy, or everyone is seeing something similar. Anyone any idea what these messages might be and how I can rectify the whatever it is complaining about (just being able to see what the message says might also help). -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c4e8a36.5030...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Linux filesystems was [Re: Debian cd supporting ext4.]
On Tuesday 27 July 2010 08:10:15 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > XFS which is superior to all other Linux filesystems. Stan - Have you the time to give a rationale for this? I'm not in any way impugning your knowledge. But I am at the stage of accepting the default that Lenny gives me, for no better reason than that the developers chose it and it is there. It is time I understood better the reasons for each file system. (I gave up Reiserfs because Reiser murdered his wife - hardly a logical measure of how good his filesystem is!!) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201007270823.05211.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: nv_videocard_driver
On Ma, 27 iul 10, 09:14:20, xing wrote: > I tried Squeeze on my machine with old nvidia geforce video.In > viewing the Xorg.log file,i found the nouveau driver was set to be > the default video driver(configured as driver0) and there was no > xorg.conf in /etc/X11.I want to know how to set the nv > driver(xserver-xorg-video-nv)to be the default driver? > Thanks in advance Unless you have a specific problem with it, the nouveau driver should be better than nv and it's free/libre. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Internet filtering
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 23:12:48, H.S. wrote: > > I have configured my eth0 as 192.168.0.0/24 network device, eth1 as > 192.168.1.0/24 network device and wlan0 as 192.168.5.0/24. They can > be on any three different private subnets. Or use bridge-utils so you have only one interface on the private side. It makes configuration easier for all services, unless you want to separate the wireless and wired lan on purpose (security?). > The software I use for the machine to act as a router is iptables > with ip_forwarding enabled (this makes the machine as a gateway > router). And the various rules (for filtering or port forwarding or > blocking) are also done using iptables. > > There are many applications that can be used to create the desired > iptables rules. I use my own bash script. I am thinking of playing > with a GUI option when I get some time. I hear Firestarter is a good > choice. There is one called fwbuilder as well. A command line > firewall is shorewall. Most of these tools actually make it easier > to generate the iptables rules that one would otherwise need to > create by hand. If you do a google search, you can find many choices > for this and detailed how-to's. + 1 for shorewall, especially if you don't want/need a GUI. > Besides this, I also use dnsmasq as a dhcp server on the router > machine and this allows LAN clients to connect as dhcp client. Very + 1 for dnsmasq. Very easy to configure and provides DNS caching and DHCP in one. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: External USB HDD : files disappeared
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 17:22:05, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > have the same problem. If you do Repair it from the Windows > partition as well since Windows is far better with FAT and NTFS than > any other operating system and then check again. If they're still > missing post back and let us know and we'll go from there. Any reference on that? I remember reading about some errors that Windows was not able to repair, but the equivalent Linux tools did. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: seeking mbox of debian-user from 7-10-2010 to 7-19-2010
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:09:19 -0700, John Magolske wrote: > In the process of switching hosting providers I managed to interrupt my > email flow, so I'm missing debian-user mail from July 10-19. Apparently > mbox archives of this list are not available on-line: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=161440 Indeed, it would be nice to have that option (getting the archived files in mbox format). > Does anyone know if such mbox files are available anywhere? Gmane¹ does: http://download.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/385898/386562 > If not, > would anyone be interested in helping me out by sending (off-list) a > gzip'd mbox of debian-user from 7-10-2010 to 7-19-2010? (And if doing > so, maybe ping the list first or give me a heads-up & I'll ping the list > so multiple copies aren't sent...) "Majordomo" could be another option. Maybe you can request to the list server it sends the losts e-mails :-? ¹ http://gmane.org/export.php Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.07.27.07.09...@gmail.com
