Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth

2010-08-14 Thread mess-mate

 On 08/13/2010 11:55 PM, Thierry Chatelet wrote:

On Friday 13 August 2010 23:29:43 Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:

Le Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:43:21 +0200

Françoisfrancois.le@free.fr  a écrit:

Le 13/08/2010 02:36, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :

Est-ce que quelqu'un a réussi à installer Google Earth sur une
testing ?

Oui, en téléchargeant et en exécutant le fichier GoogleEarthlinux.bin
trouvé sur le site Google Earth
http://earth.google.fr/intl/fr/download-earth.html

Passer en root pour exécuter le script et l'installation se fera dans
/opt/. Sinon, l'installation se fait dans le dossier perso.

Tu l'as fait récemment? Parce que j'ai essayé hier soir (avec GE 5.2) et
déjà la procédure d'installation ne fonctionne pas. Après recherche sur
le net j'ai trouvé qu'il fallait bidouiller et utiliser l'installeur
gtk au lieu du gtk2 (voir ici
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/earth/thread?tid=6f59e15bf811d4e2hl=
en). L'installation se déroule bien mais ensuite l'appli ne se lance pas...
J'ai donc encore cherché et j'ai trouvé qu'il y avait soit un problème
avec la libGL soit avec libexpat. J'ai donc essayé en téléchargeant une
libGL à mettre dans le répertoire de GE, l'appli se lance mais
l'affichage est perturbé. J'ai aussi essayé en préchargeant la libexpat
avec LD_PRELOAD, l'appli se lance également mais si l'affichage est
correct elle ne fonctionne pas correctement (recherches ne fonctionnent
entre autre). Au final j'ai cru comprendre que le problème viendrait de
la libbase de GE qui aurait des symboles en conflit avec la libexpat.
(voir ici
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/earth/thread?tid=5da393653cabeeb0hl=
en) Mais au final je n'ai pas trouvé de solution valable et google ne
semble pas se préoccuper outre mesure du problème.

Gaëtan

Gaëtan, je viens de le faire sur mon portable et sur la tour de  mon voisin.
Les deux ont marchés. Évidement le --force est de rigueur maintenant  (il
fluctue avec les différentes  versions)
Thierry


Topic très interressant car moi non-plus ce googlearth ne marche pas.
J'ai installé les pacquets debian version 1329 en ensuite une install 
avec --force comme c'est dit.

Googlearth se lance en ensuite squeeze (amd64) crash.
J'avais essayé la *.bin aussi dont idem pour cela.
amicalement

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ssh+PermitRootLogin

2010-08-14 Thread Maurice Guerrier
Bonjour à tous, 

Je suis sur Debian Lenny. 
Par défaut il n' y a pas le parametre PermitRootLogin
Je l'ai ajouté et mis sa valeur à no. PermitRootLogin no. 

J'ai redémarré mon serveur /etc/init.d/ssh restart par contre j'arrive toujours 
à me connecter en root sur le serveur. 


Dites-moi, ce que vous en pensez parce que j'en fais plusieurs essais. 

je trouve que c'est bizzare parce le parametre s'explique clairement. 

Merci


  

Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin

2010-08-14 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 14/08/2010 12:45, Maurice Guerrier a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Bonjour


Je suis sur Debian Lenny.
Par défaut il n' y a pas le parametre PermitRootLogin
Je doute: je viens de vérifier sur plusieurs Lenny, il est présent. Est 
ce bien dans le fichier /etc/ssh/sshd_config que vous avez regardé?


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Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin

2010-08-14 Thread David Pinson


bonjour,
Il me semble d'avoir déjà vu ce problème...


Je suis sur Debian Lenny.
Par défaut il n' y a pas le parametre PermitRootLogin
Je l'ai ajouté et mis sa valeur à no. PermitRootLogin no.


Est-ce bien dans ce fichier '/etc/ssh/sshd_config' que tu as effectué 
l'ajout ?


Linuxement vôtre,
David P.


J'ai redémarré mon serveur /etc/init.d/ssh restart par contre j'arrive
toujours à me connecter en root sur le serveur.

Dites-moi, ce que vous en pensez parce que j'en fais plusieurs essais.

je trouve que c'est bizzare parce le parametre s'explique clairement.

Merci





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Fwd: Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin

2010-08-14 Thread daniel huhardeaux


Merci de répondre à la liste ...

 Message original 
Sujet:  Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin
Date :  Sat, 14 Aug 2010 04:10:30 -0700 (PDT)
De :Maurice Guerrier guelo...@yahoo.com
Pour :  daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net




 oh, je me suis gouré, j'ai ete dans /etc/ssh/ssh_config et non 
/etc/ssh/sshd_config

merci Daniel




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*To:* debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
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*Subject:* Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin

Le 14/08/2010 12:45, Maurice Guerrier a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,

Bonjour


Je suis sur Debian Lenny.
Par défaut il n' y a pas le parametre PermitRootLogin
Je doute: je viens de vérifier sur plusieurs Lenny, il est présent. Est 
ce bien dans le fichier /etc/ssh/sshd_config que vous avez regardé?


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Re: Fwd: Re: ssh+PermitRootLogin

2010-08-14 Thread Dominique Dumont
Le samedi 14 août 2010 13:21:31, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
   oh, je me suis gouré, j'ai ete dans /etc/ssh/ssh_config et non
 /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Pour éviter ce genre d'erreurs, vous pouvez aussi éditer /etc/ssh/ssh_config 
avec config-edit-sshd (package libconfig-model-openssh-perl)

Cordialement

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PermitRootLogin+Problème résolu

2010-08-14 Thread Maurice Guerrier
Merci à tous. 

Je vous présente mes excuses d'avoir présenté ce problème assez banal. 

Je m'étais gouré j'ai édité le fichier /ect/ssh/ssh_config au de 
/etc/ssh/sshd_config. 


Merci à vous tous pour vos réponses 

Guerrier


  

Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth

2010-08-14 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Saturday 14 August 2010 00:43:13 Thierry Chatelet wrote:
 En fait, si tu peux attendre demain  dans  la  journée, je dois  installer
 un  ordi  en squeeze  32 bits. J' essaierai de mettre googleearth dessus et
 je te tiens au courant.
 Thierry

Pas de chance, je n' arrive pas à faire le paquet. J'ai  une longue liste 
d'erreurs disant que le fichier googleearth peut être conrrompu.
Je suis désolé, mais comme je dois livrer le pc ce soir, je ne peux pas 
chercher plus longtemps d'ou vient le problème.
Thierry

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Re: Creer un point d'acces wifi

2010-08-14 Thread Vincent Danjean
On 24/07/2010 08:49, Le poulpe qui bloppe ! wrote:
 Néanmoins, si quelqu'un arrive a faire un point d'acces sous linux
 sans passer par madwifi, je suis interessé par la conf, parcequ'un
 jour faudra bien arriver a gerrer du wifi sans madwifi :P

Je fais ça sur un LinkSys WRT54G sous OpenWrt (linux 2.6). Ma freebox
est en pont (ça me permet de recevoir les paquets 6to4 jusqu'à mon
ordi), je n'utilise donc pas sa partie routeur (et donc pas non
plus sa partie wifi).
Le linksys juste derrière à une config firewall (IPv4 et IPv6) adaptée
à mes besoins.
Le linksys fait aussi point d'accès wifi (en WEP pour que mon lapin wifi
fonctionne, mais le réseau wifi n'a pas accès à ce qu'il y a sur mon
réseau filaire). Il utilise hostapd (et le wifi est un broadcom mais je
ne sais plus lequel de mémoire)

  A+
Vincent

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Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth

2010-08-14 Thread François

Le 13/08/2010 23:29, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :

Tu l'as fait récemment?


Deux mois environ. En testing avec le noyau 2.6.60.2 64 bits.

Google Earth 5.2.1.1329 (beta)
Date de la version 10 juin 2010
Heure de la version 4:15:50 pm
Moteur de rendu OpenGL
Système d'exploitation Linux (2.6.30.0)
Pilote vidéo ATI Technologies Inc.
Taille de texture maximale 8192x8192
Serveur kh.google.com

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Re: PermitRootLogin+Problème résolu

2010-08-14 Thread dptech
Hello,
Il n'y a pas de mal, tu nous permets de revoir des problemes rencontrés.
Car très souvent on en voit et on oublie souvent les problemes resolus
Linuxement votre,
David Pinson

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Objet: PermitRootLogin+Problème résolu


Merci à tous. 

Je vous présente mes excuses d'avoir présenté ce problème assez banal. 

Je m'étais gouré j'ai édité le fichier /ect/ssh/ssh_config au de 
/etc/ssh/sshd_config . 

Merci à vous tous pour vos réponses 

Guerrier 





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[HS] IPoT [était: Re: Debian Testing et Google Earth]

2010-08-14 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
François, samedi 14 août 2010, 22:16:37 CEST
[…]
 Deux mois environ. En testing avec le noyau 2.6.60.2 64 bits.
  ^^
  Ça marche bien IPoT ?

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Re: Actualizacion de carpetas en Evolution

2010-08-14 Thread julio
El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 13:53 -0500, Carlos Onelio Cazorla Machado
escribió:
 El problema consiste en que Evolution no me muestra los contenidos
 reales de las carpetas en el servidor, solo parcialemente. Reduje el
 tiempo de chequeo para nuevos correos, ejecuto a menudo enviar/recibir
 y ni se entera. Sin embargo, cuando accedo por web o con un cliente
 win entonces si lo muestra todo.
 
 Algun colega tiene alguna sugerencia de como resolver esta situacion?

Pinchar en Editar -- Preferencias, selecciona la cuenta de correo y
dale a Editar -- Opciones de recepcion, y ahí comprueba que están
marcadas las opciones de comprobar que hay corro nuevo y comprobar
que hay mensajes nuevos en todas las carpetas

Un saludo

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Re: Problema con Debian Squeeze y adobe air

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:51:01 -0400, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
escribió:

 Esperando que me puedan ayudar, tengo un problema con Debian Squeeze
 Adobe Air2 y  Tweetdeck
 
 Funciona al instalarlo, casi si problema pero al tratar de usar apt-get
 o aptitude da el siguiente error
 
 
 
 Tal vez quiera ejecutar `apt-get -f install' para corregirlo.
 Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
   tweetdeckfast.fff259dc0ce2657847bbb4aff0e62062efc56543.1:
 PreDepende: adobeair (= 1.5.0.0) pero no es instalable E:
 Dependencias incumplidas. Pruebe de nuevo usando -f.
 
 
 hay alguna forma de decirle a apt-get que no necesito que me diga eso,
 ya que si hago un apt-get -f install me desinstala Tweetdeck :S
 
 a alguien mas le ha pasado ?

Parece que sí. Buscando por el mensaje de error en inglés aparece 
esto en Google:

***
Installing latest Adobe AIR on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04)
http://jerwilkins.posterous.com/installing-latest-adobe-air-on-ubuntu-lucid-1
***

A ver si te sirve.

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Re: LiveCD que me permita borrar particiones

2010-08-14 Thread ghostDancer
2010/8/11 Robert C. Rodriguez aciddi...@gmail.com:
 El 11 de agosto de 2010 12:39, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola Lista.

 He recibido un equipo para instalar al cual quierlo borrarle todas las
 partciones.

 El tema es que el gparted trata de iniciar el entorno gráfico que producto
 de un error no se inicia.

 Alguien conoce algun livecd que me permita trabajar con las particiones
 pero desde ncurses?

 Muchas Gracias.

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 Hola,

 Yo siempre aconsejo este LiveCD: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php

 Ha mi me ha sido muy útil.

 Un saludo

Buenas, otra opción , que ademas puedes instalar en un llavero usb y
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http://www.sysresccd.org/


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Re: Actualizacion de carpetas en Evolution

2010-08-14 Thread Carlos Onelio Cazorla Machado
El sáb, 14-08-2010 a las 11:40 +0200, julio escribió:
 El vie, 13-08-2010 a las 13:53 -0500, Carlos Onelio Cazorla Machado
 escribió:
  El problema consiste en que Evolution no me muestra los contenidos
  reales de las carpetas en el servidor, solo parcialemente. Reduje el
  tiempo de chequeo para nuevos correos, ejecuto a menudo enviar/recibir
  y ni se entera. Sin embargo, cuando accedo por web o con un cliente
  win entonces si lo muestra todo.
  
  Algun colega tiene alguna sugerencia de como resolver esta situacion?
 
 Pinchar en Editar -- Preferencias, selecciona la cuenta de correo y
 dale a Editar -- Opciones de recepcion, y ahí comprueba que están
 marcadas las opciones de comprobar que hay corro nuevo y comprobar
 que hay mensajes nuevos en todas las carpetas
 

Si, por supuesto que la tengo activada, incluso la de comprobar en
todas las carpetas y el tiempo de comprobacion en 1 minuto.

Pero esta claro, que aun sin activar esta opcion, debia descargar los
nuevos mensajes al dar clic en el boton Enviar/Recibir, pero no lo hace.
Tambien veo que mensajes que habia eliminado desde Evolution aun estan
ahi cuando abro el buzon con otro cliente (Microsoft Outlook) y la
preocupacion mayor es que pierda correos importantes.
 Un saludo
 
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Re: Consulta sobre samba

2010-08-14 Thread Cristian Mitchell
El día 13 de agosto de 2010 17:02, Abejo the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar escribió:
 Hola gente, el tema es el siguiente, tengo un server donde tengo instalado
 samba, y estoy usando un sistema (bejerman) que guarda las bases de dato
 (access) en una carpeta compartida sobre este servidor. El problema es que
 desde hace un par de días al cerrar el sistema quedan las bases abiertas y
 tengo que dar de baja y volver a levantar el samba para poder seguir
 trabajando, según el soporte del sistema es culpa del servidor, e insisten que
 lo migre a MS, lo que me llama la atención que esto solo lo hace en el
 sistema, los documentos los cierran y abren sin ningún problema.
 Alguien tiene alguna idea a que se puede deber esto?


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que significa que lo hace desde un par de dias?
antes lo hacia?
que paso desde el antes y el despues?
los servicios tecnicos improvisados de todos estos siempre le echa la
culpa a otro!
lo mismo me paso con buenos aires software hace 20 dias
despues de una actualizacion de ellos empeso a andar lento, y le echan
la culpa a la red al server al linux,
pero lo unico que cambio hera el el sistema de ellos, entonces?
hasta que tuvieropn que aceptarlo
OJO!!!
dudo que sea el samba


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Re: Consulta sobre samba

2010-08-14 Thread Javier Argentina
El 13/08/10, Abejo the.ab...@yahoo.com.ar escribió:
 Hola gente, el tema es el siguiente, tengo un server donde tengo instalado
 samba, y estoy usando un sistema (bejerman) que guarda las bases de dato
 (access) en una carpeta compartida sobre este servidor. El problema es que
 desde hace un par de días al cerrar el sistema quedan las bases abiertas y

¿Qué sistema cerrás, el servidor samba o los clientes desde terminales
MS con Access?

 tengo que dar de baja y volver a levantar el samba para poder seguir

Eso, es porque para samba las conexiones siguen estando persistentes,
hay algún tema de cierre de los accesos remotos que no está
funcionando bien, ya sea porque windows no cierra la conexión como se
debe, o tenés alguna pifia en la configuración del servidor.

 trabajando, según el soporte del sistema es culpa del servidor, e insisten
 que
 lo migre a MS, lo que me llama la atención que esto solo lo hace en el
 sistema, los documentos los cierran y abren sin ningún problema.

Más a favor de lo que te dije. Fijate la opción deadtime de smb.conf

 Alguien tiene alguna idea a que se puede deber esto?


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Re: LiveCD que me permita borrar particiones

2010-08-14 Thread Javier Argentina
El 11/08/10, ciracusa cirac...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola Lista.

 He recibido un equipo para instalar al cual quierlo borrarle todas las
 partciones.

 El tema es que el gparted trata de iniciar el entorno gráfico que
 producto de un error no se inicia.

 Alguien conoce algun livecd que me permita trabajar con las particiones
 pero desde ncurses?

 Muchas Gracias.

 Saludos.



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Re: Problemas PDC+Samba+LDAP

2010-08-14 Thread Roberto De Oliveira
El día 14 de agosto de 2010 10:01, Nicolas niko...@gmail.com escribió:
 intente con el lmhosts y nada, el dns si lo administro yo y lo tenia con la
 zona fundalanavial.gob.ve igual que el dominio samba pero tampoco las
 maquinas windows xp veian el pdc, pero cambie la zona a fundalanavial.local
 porque al hacer host fundalanavial.gob.ve no me veia el dominio que existe
 en internet es por ello que lo cambie y ahora si me ve el dominio anterior.


Bien, intenta lo siguiente:
1) Habilita el soporte WINS en tu servidor samba (mira en el man por
la directiva wins support).
2) En la máquina Windows que estás tratando de unir a tu nuevo
dominio, has la configuración necesaria para que utilice tu servidor
samba como servidor WINS
(http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/sag_tcpip_pro_usewinsconfig.mspx?mfr=true).
Si esto funciona, tienes que replicar este parámetro en tu red, si
tienes control sobre el servidor DHCP lo puedes hacer por allí.

P.D: Por favor responde a toda la lista y no a las direcciones
personales. Gracias.


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Re: Problema con Debian Squeeze y adobe air

2010-08-14 Thread Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
El sáb, 14-08-2010 a las 11:04 +, Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:51:01 -0400, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
 escribió:
 
  Esperando que me puedan ayudar, tengo un problema con Debian Squeeze
  Adobe Air2 y  Tweetdeck
  
  Funciona al instalarlo, casi si problema pero al tratar de usar apt-get
  o aptitude da el siguiente error
  
  
  
  Tal vez quiera ejecutar `apt-get -f install' para corregirlo.
  Los siguientes paquetes tienen dependencias incumplidas:
tweetdeckfast.fff259dc0ce2657847bbb4aff0e62062efc56543.1:
  PreDepende: adobeair (= 1.5.0.0) pero no es instalable E:
  Dependencias incumplidas. Pruebe de nuevo usando -f.
  
  
  hay alguna forma de decirle a apt-get que no necesito que me diga eso,
  ya que si hago un apt-get -f install me desinstala Tweetdeck :S
  
  a alguien mas le ha pasado ?
 
 Parece que sí. Buscando por el mensaje de error en inglés aparece 
 esto en Google:
 
 ***
 Installing latest Adobe AIR on Ubuntu Lucid (10.04)
 http://jerwilkins.posterous.com/installing-latest-adobe-air-on-ubuntu-lucid-1
 ***
 
 A ver si te sirve.
 
 Saludos,
 
 -- 
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Gracias Camaleon jejej eso era, era un estupidez pero bueno...gracias a
ti ya lo soluciones


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Re: Consulta sobre samba

2010-08-14 Thread Ximo Nadal

El 13/08/10 22:02, Abejo escribió:

Hola gente, el tema es el siguiente, tengo un server donde tengo instalado
samba, y estoy usando un sistema (bejerman) que guarda las bases de dato
(access) en una carpeta compartida sobre este servidor. El problema es que
desde hace un par de días al cerrar el sistema quedan las bases abiertas y
tengo que dar de baja y volver a levantar el samba para poder seguir
trabajando, según el soporte del sistema es culpa del servidor, e insisten que
lo migre a MS, lo que me llama la atención que esto solo lo hace en el
sistema, los documentos los cierran y abren sin ningún problema.
Alguien tiene alguna idea a que se puede deber esto?



Hola,

Mi recomendacion, por experiencia, es que si te aprecias los datos los 
pases a un SGBD de verdad. Aunque luego te sigas conectando con access 
desde los clientes.


Lo de conectarse a la base de datos de access en una carpeta compartida 
al final no acaba creando mas que problemas cuando los datos empiezan a 
crecer y cada vez se conecta mas gente.


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Re: Instalar o Debian de um pendriver

2010-08-14 Thread Sheldon Led Martins e Silva
Bom dia a todos,

Eu tenho um netbook acer aspire 1410 e instalei o debian nele com sucesso.
Já falo que nenhum desses programas de fazer imagem em pendrive funcionou
comigo no debian. Veja como eu fiz para instalar o Debian no meu netbook
acessando este link: http://tribodoci.net/artigos/debian-netbook/
Acredito que esta maneira é bem genérica e serve para qualquer modelo.
Espero ter ajudado!

Em 13 de agosto de 2010 18:25, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 baixa o programa UnetBootin, algo assim, com ele você rapidamente cria um
 pendrive bootavel, e la é so voce escolher a imagem iso e apontar para o
 pendrive, mas antes tem que escolher que sistema voce ira usar no pen drive.

 2010/8/13 Adriano Rafael Gomes adrian...@gmail.com

 Em Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:36:27 -0300
 Diác. Moretti m...@mitranh.org.br escreveu:

  Estou querendo colocar o Debian GNU/Linux  no meu NetBook
  HP
  Gostaria de saber a onde obtenho dica de como fazer isto
  já que não tenho unidade de CD, me falaram que posso
  fazer pelo pendriver. Alguém pode me dar um dica?

 Veja:

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas02.html.pt_BR#howto-getting-images-usb
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.pt_BR

 Fiz isso no meu Acer Aspire One:
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#PreparingtheUSBflashdrive





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Re: Instalar o Debian de um pendriver

2010-08-14 Thread Rodolfo
Eu consigo instalar a versão full CD de 600MB+ com o pendrive sem precisar
de rede. Como falei antes, Unetbootin do windows é só você escolher o
sistema Debian e Stable_HdMedia, desculpa eu não lembrar o site de onde
tirei isso, mas com certeza digitando unetbootin + debian no google c acha
alguma coisa. No meu caso não tenho NET pra ficar instalando via
ftp.tive que caçar esse programa abraços.

Em 14 de agosto de 2010 07:44, Sheldon Led Martins e Silva sheldonled.ms@
gmail.com escreveu:

 Bom dia a todos,

 Eu tenho um netbook acer aspire 1410 e instalei o debian nele com sucesso.
 Já falo que nenhum desses programas de fazer imagem em pendrive funcionou
 comigo no debian. Veja como eu fiz para instalar o Debian no meu netbook
 acessando este link: http://tribodoci.net/artigos/debian-netbook/
 Acredito que esta maneira é bem genérica e serve para qualquer modelo.
 Espero ter ajudado!

 Em 13 de agosto de 2010 18:25, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 baixa o programa UnetBootin, algo assim, com ele você rapidamente cria um
 pendrive bootavel, e la é so voce escolher a imagem iso e apontar para o
 pendrive, mas antes tem que escolher que sistema voce ira usar no pen drive.

 2010/8/13 Adriano Rafael Gomes adrian...@gmail.com

 Em Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:36:27 -0300
 Diác. Moretti m...@mitranh.org.br escreveu:

  Estou querendo colocar o Debian GNU/Linux  no meu NetBook
  HP
  Gostaria de saber a onde obtenho dica de como fazer isto
  já que não tenho unidade de CD, me falaram que posso
  fazer pelo pendriver. Alguém pode me dar um dica?

 Veja:

 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas02.html.pt_BR#howto-getting-images-usb
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.pt_BR

 Fiz isso no meu Acer Aspire One:
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#PreparingtheUSBflashdrive





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Torrent Lentos no Debian e Rápidos no Ubuntu!

2010-08-14 Thread Fagner Patricio
Olá Pessoal!!!

Eu em casa uso o Ubuntu no meu Desktop, contudo desde a versão 9.10 a minha
máquina sofre com esse erro:

*serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


o erro acontece na inicialização em 80% dos casos trava meu computador!!!

Me irritei com isso e instalei essa semana o Debian Squeeze, e apesar de o
erro persistir o computador não trava mais!!!

Só que o problema é que no Ubuntu eu conseguia baixar torrents na maior
velocidade possível, na média de 1 MB/s, no debian se eu usar o trasmission
( que era o que eu usava no Ubuntu ) os torrents nem começão a baixar, os
únicos que funcionam é o Azureus ou o Ktorrent mas mesmo nesses dois eu não
consigo baixar a mais de 100 Kb/s, e não nem a quantidade de feed ou seeds,
porque na média tanto quando eu usava o Ubuntu como agora é na faixa de 60 e
70 somando feeds e seeds, alguém enfrente algo parecido no Debian? baixa
velocidades no torrent?

e esse erro:

*serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


Alguém sabe o que fazer?

No google pesquisando eu vi que é um erro em alguma biblioteca mas eu não
consegui achar qual era, a IRQ 19 é associada a esses dispositivos:

fag...@maelia-desktop:~$ ls /proc/irq/19
 *ata_piix  smp_affinity  spurious  uhci_hcd:usb3*
 fag...@maelia-desktop:~$


 Tem alguma coisa haver com a placa de Rede eu acho, no /var/log/dmesg temos
o seguinte durante a sequência de boot:

[6.901794] r8169: eth0: link up
 [6.901801] r8169: eth0: link up
 [7.057070] fuse init (API version 7.13)
 [8.971768] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.974817] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.977410] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.980209] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.984287] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.987411] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.990005] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.996404] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.003797] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.006387] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.016341] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.023681] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.026206] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.028897] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.034670] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.037192] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.968633] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.971087] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.997826] serial8250: too much work for irq19

..
 ..
 ..


 se alguém puder ajudar agradeço.

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Brasil


Re: Torrent Lentos no Debian e Rápidos no Ubuntu!

2010-08-14 Thread Rodolfo
Cara, isso ta parecendo HD. Que tipo de HD você usa ? Sata ou IDE ? e
quantos ? tenta desbilitar o fuse na inicialização pra ver se para com esse
erro, se não me engano o fuse é uma lib para ter permissões de leitura e
escrita em partições NTFS.

Em 14 de agosto de 2010 10:20, Fagner Patricio
fagner.patri...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá Pessoal!!!

 Eu em casa uso o Ubuntu no meu Desktop, contudo desde a versão 9.10 a minha
 máquina sofre com esse erro:

 *serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


 o erro acontece na inicialização em 80% dos casos trava meu computador!!!

 Me irritei com isso e instalei essa semana o Debian Squeeze, e apesar de o
 erro persistir o computador não trava mais!!!

 Só que o problema é que no Ubuntu eu conseguia baixar torrents na maior
 velocidade possível, na média de 1 MB/s, no debian se eu usar o trasmission
 ( que era o que eu usava no Ubuntu ) os torrents nem começão a baixar, os
 únicos que funcionam é o Azureus ou o Ktorrent mas mesmo nesses dois eu não
 consigo baixar a mais de 100 Kb/s, e não nem a quantidade de feed ou seeds,
 porque na média tanto quando eu usava o Ubuntu como agora é na faixa de 60 e
 70 somando feeds e seeds, alguém enfrente algo parecido no Debian? baixa
 velocidades no torrent?

 e esse erro:

 *serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


 Alguém sabe o que fazer?

 No google pesquisando eu vi que é um erro em alguma biblioteca mas eu não
 consegui achar qual era, a IRQ 19 é associada a esses dispositivos:

 fag...@maelia-desktop:~$ ls /proc/irq/19
 *ata_piix  smp_affinity  spurious  uhci_hcd:usb3*
 fag...@maelia-desktop:~$


  Tem alguma coisa haver com a placa de Rede eu acho, no /var/log/dmesg
 temos o seguinte durante a sequência de boot:

 [6.901794] r8169: eth0: link up
 [6.901801] r8169: eth0: link up
 [7.057070] fuse init (API version 7.13)
 [8.971768] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.974817] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.977410] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.980209] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.984287] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.987411] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.990005] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.996404] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.003797] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.006387] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.016341] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.023681] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.026206] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.028897] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.034670] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.037192] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.968633] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.971087] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.997826] serial8250: too much work for irq19

 ..
 ..
 ..


  se alguém puder ajudar agradeço.

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 João Pessoa - PB
 Brasil



Re: Torrent Lentos no Debian e Rápidos no Ubuntu!

2010-08-14 Thread Rodolfo
Opa fagner, fui da uma pesquisada e acho que ne HD nao rsrsrsnesse link
mostra como o cara resolveu o problema dele, vê se da pra resolver da mesma
forma ai contigo.

http://www.forumpcs.com.br/comunidade/viewtopic.php?t=78995

Em 14 de agosto de 2010 10:20, Fagner Patricio
fagner.patri...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá Pessoal!!!

 Eu em casa uso o Ubuntu no meu Desktop, contudo desde a versão 9.10 a minha
 máquina sofre com esse erro:

 *serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


 o erro acontece na inicialização em 80% dos casos trava meu computador!!!

 Me irritei com isso e instalei essa semana o Debian Squeeze, e apesar de o
 erro persistir o computador não trava mais!!!

 Só que o problema é que no Ubuntu eu conseguia baixar torrents na maior
 velocidade possível, na média de 1 MB/s, no debian se eu usar o trasmission
 ( que era o que eu usava no Ubuntu ) os torrents nem começão a baixar, os
 únicos que funcionam é o Azureus ou o Ktorrent mas mesmo nesses dois eu não
 consigo baixar a mais de 100 Kb/s, e não nem a quantidade de feed ou seeds,
 porque na média tanto quando eu usava o Ubuntu como agora é na faixa de 60 e
 70 somando feeds e seeds, alguém enfrente algo parecido no Debian? baixa
 velocidades no torrent?

 e esse erro:

 *serial8250: too much work for irq 19*


 Alguém sabe o que fazer?

 No google pesquisando eu vi que é um erro em alguma biblioteca mas eu não
 consegui achar qual era, a IRQ 19 é associada a esses dispositivos:

 fag...@maelia-desktop:~$ ls /proc/irq/19
 *ata_piix  smp_affinity  spurious  uhci_hcd:usb3*
 fag...@maelia-desktop:~$


  Tem alguma coisa haver com a placa de Rede eu acho, no /var/log/dmesg
 temos o seguinte durante a sequência de boot:

 [6.901794] r8169: eth0: link up
 [6.901801] r8169: eth0: link up
 [7.057070] fuse init (API version 7.13)
 [8.971768] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.974817] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.977410] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.980209] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.984287] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.987411] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.990005] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [8.996404] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.003797] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.006387] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.016341] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.023681] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.026206] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.028897] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.034670] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.037192] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.968633] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.971087] serial8250: too much work for irq19
 [9.997826] serial8250: too much work for irq19

 ..
 ..
 ..


  se alguém puder ajudar agradeço.

 --
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 João Pessoa - PB
 Brasil



Re: Configurar apt-get com proxy com autenticacao

2010-08-14 Thread hamacker
veja :
http://hamacker.santhanna.net/?p=48

Em 13 de agosto de 2010 18:31, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Ola pessoal, preciso de uma ajuda, aqui no trabalho o proxy pede
 autenticacao, estou tentando configurar o apt-get para ser usado através
 disso, porém sem sucesso.
 editei meu /etc/environment assim:
 http_proxy=http://usuario:se...@proxy:porta;
 Aquire
 {
     HTTP::Proxy usuario:se...@proxy:porta;
 };
 alias wget=wget --proxy-user=usuario --proxy-senha=senha
 estou aguardando respostas, porque desse jeito não está funcionando.
 Obrigado.


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802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Stanisław Findeisen
Hi

I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects
me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The
problem is I am being prompted for this key every time.

Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have to type the key. It is
stored in the GNOME keyring (I use nm-editor 0.6.6 for that).
But then, when it disconnects, I have to type it again and again. Why?

And sometimes it doesn't prompt me, and failes to authenticate also. :-|
I had to delete the network entry from the GNOME keyring (nm-editor),
get *prompted* for the key, and *then* I was authenticated. 8-|

What's wrong??!

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Re: grub2: VFS: Unable to mount root fs

2010-08-14 Thread Simon Brandmair
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:20:02 +0200 Tom H wrote:
 
 Please post the output of blkid -c /dev/null and the working grub2
 menuentry ... { ... }.

blkid -c /dev/null:
/dev/sda2: LABEL=root UUID=d8f9ae65-2e4f-4b20-aaac-9c5b6e7c6be7 
TYPE=ext3 
/dev/sda5: LABEL=var UUID=1e30fe16-85e9-4c48-adda-0a5367e6d22d 
TYPE=ext3 
/dev/sda8: LABEL=boot UUID=c9c772a6-75a5-4dbe-8bb8-2663db42e7f4 
TYPE=ext2 
/dev/mapper/swap: UUID=b83e7fa2-d2f7-48c3-ac46-ab92b7680b84 TYPE=swap 

/boot/grub/grub.cfg:
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.32-20100812' --class debian --
class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(hd0,msdos8)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set 
c9c772a6-75a5-4dbe-8bb8-2663db42e7f4
echo'Loading Linux 2.6.32-20100812 ...'
linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.32-20100812 root=/dev/sda2 ro  quiet
echo'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd  /initrd.img-2.6.32-20100812
}

Simon


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Re: Enabling remote logon - any decent intro docs?

2010-08-14 Thread AG

On 13/08/10 22:46, Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Two Debian machines on a LAN, i'd go for XDMCP - it'll give you the
remote desktop feel. It's not that hard, just changing a few values
in text files. If you're using GNOME or KDE it'll probably be easier.

Keyword: XDMCP.


   
Thanks Bob and Nuno - I'll follow up with the XDMCP - the docs seem a 
bit old but they should give me a decent intro.


Many thanks for the quick and helpful responses.

Cheers

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 22:57:11 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

   
 Camaleón wrote:
 

 (...)

   
 ***
 update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/java java
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java 1 ***
   
   
 Thanks for this. And about java-update-alternatives? Is one more
 prioritary than another? (See my last message, which was apparently not
 sent.)
 

 True is that I was totally unaware about the availability of the command  
 Jordan suggested, so I am as lost as you here O:-)
   
Well, I configured update-alternatives this:

==
# update-alternatives --config java

There are 3 alternatives which provide `java'.

  SelectionAlternative
---
  1/usr/bin/gij-4.3
 +2/usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/jre/bin/java
* 3/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java
==

Really nice, but Eclipse seems not to like it that much:

==
A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK)
must be available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine
was found after searching the following locations:
/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/jre/bin/java
java in your current PATH
==

Why?

==
$ file /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/java: ELF 32-bit
LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses
shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped
==

though.

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Re: What to put on SSD

2010-08-14 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jörg-Volker Peetz:

 Did you enable the 'discard' mount option on your ext4 file system (see
 kernel-/Documentation/filesystems/ext4.txt) in order to make usage of
 the TRIM-ability of the SSD?

Me? -No, because my (1st gen) X25m model doesn't support TRIM.

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:45:31 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

(...)

 Really nice, but Eclipse seems not to like it that much:
 
 ==
 A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be
 available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found
 after searching the following locations:
 /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/jre/bin/java java in your current PATH
 ==
 
 Why?

It clearly states that Eclipse is looking for the java bin into the wrong 
place: /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/jre/bin/java

Two ideas on how to by-pass this:

1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just 
change it from there, or just by manually editing /etc/eclipse/
java_home.

2/ Make a symbolic link (ln -s) from your home's Eclipse java path 
pointing to the current (system-wide) java path.

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 13:45:31 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 (...)

   
 Really nice, but Eclipse seems not to like it that much:

 ==
 A Java Runtime Environment (JRE) or Java Development Kit (JDK) must be
 available in order to run Eclipse. No Java virtual machine was found
 after searching the following locations:
 /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/jre/bin/java java in your current PATH
 ==

 Why?
 

 It clearly states that Eclipse is looking for the java bin into the wrong 
 place: /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/jre/bin/java

 Two ideas on how to by-pass this:

 1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just 
 change it from there, or just by manually editing /etc/eclipse/
 java_home.

 2/ Make a symbolic link (ln -s) from your home's Eclipse java path 
 pointing to the current (system-wide) java path.
   
I've choosen the latter, which then makes

==
$ eclipse/eclipse
Error occurred during initialization of VM
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
==

Why?

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Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread brownh
Jimmy,

I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it
to the list.

The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running
cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key,
but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that so? 

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:17:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Two ideas on how to by-pass this:

 1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just
 change it from there, or just by manually editing /etc/eclipse/
 java_home.

 2/ Make a symbolic link (ln -s) from your home's Eclipse java path
 pointing to the current (system-wide) java path.
   
 I've choosen the latter, which then makes
 
 ==
 $ eclipse/eclipse
 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object ==
 
 Why?

He, he... you can also Google a bit, it won't hurt ;-)

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=eclipse+java%2Flang%2FNoClassDefFoundError%3A+java%2Flang%2FObjectfp=e2910437e368fcc

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:17:14 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

   
 Camaleón wrote:
 

 (...)

   
 Two ideas on how to by-pass this:

 1/ If Eclipse has an option to edit the path to the avilable JRE, just
 change it from there, or just by manually editing /etc/eclipse/
 java_home.

 2/ Make a symbolic link (ln -s) from your home's Eclipse java path
 pointing to the current (system-wide) java path.
   
   
 I've choosen the latter, which then makes

 ==
 $ eclipse/eclipse
 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object ==

 Why?
 

 He, he... you can also Google a bit, it won't hurt ;-)

 http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=eclipse+java%2Flang%2FNoClassDefFoundError%3A+java%2Flang%2FObjectfp=e2910437e368fcc
   
Well, I've no problem with Googling, but I should have mentioned that
the aforementioned message appears when launching eclipse. As a result,
I can't even see Eclipse's GUI. Results on Google show persons having
problems compiling, running/debugging, etc., their files under Eclipse.
But I can't run Eclipse!

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 15:53:02 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 ==
 $ eclipse/eclipse
 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object ==

 Why?
 
 
 He, he... you can also Google a bit, it won't hurt ;-)

 http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=eclipse+java%2Flang%
2FNoClassDefFoundError%3A+java%2Flang%2FObjectfp=e2910437e368fcc
   
 Well, I've no problem with Googling, but I should have mentioned that
 the aforementioned message appears when launching eclipse. As a result,
 I can't even see Eclipse's GUI. Results on Google show persons having
 problems compiling, running/debugging, etc., their files under Eclipse.
 But I can't run Eclipse!

Can you launch eclipse with some -debug option? Maybe you'll get 
additonal information.

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Re: Enabling remote logon - any decent intro docs?

2010-08-14 Thread Joao Ferreira gmail
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 21:51 +0100, AG wrote:
 Hi all
 
 I have a guest account on my machine and want to enable that user to 
 access that profile from another Debian machine on my LAN.  This task is 
 called remote networking, right?  And as far as I can tell OpenSSH is 
 probably the way to go.  How can I give this user the experience (i.e. 
 desktop, icons, files, etc.) from the LAN machine that they would get if 
 they were logged in directly?

I usually do it like this:

ssh -X guestu...@remotehost

it'll ask for a username and a password; once you get access to the
shell just call your favourite programs;

the remote machine will forward the graphical parts to your pc. for a
complete desktop feel you need to call the gnome-session program or
the start-kde program.

but, you should expect some minor discrepancies between this and a local
session, simply because things are not 100,00% perfect, only 99,9% :D

this what I usualy do

I've even tried this approach on a SunOS to WindowsXp running mingwin
for X server :) works good enough for me... cheers

cheers
jmf


 
 I'm sure that this is reasonably straight forward, but I can't seem to 
 find a coherent answer in a language I can understand.  I'm not hugely 
 technical and most docs that I've come across seem to assume computer 
 wizardry above my ability.  I'm not expecting others to do the work, but 
 just would appreciate a sign-post to some decent (newbie-friendly?) 
 documents that will enable me to give a remote user a local experience 
 of their user account while retaining a reasonable degree of security.
 
 Any ideas?  Thanks very much
 
 AG
 
 



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newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe
Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?  I 
presently have Ubuntustudio8.04 on a Dell G260 desktop, and would like 
to move to debian.  Just watched Moglen's Cloud speech, and got inspired.

Thanks, Tom Poe, Eden Valley, MN


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

 Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?  

(...)

I hope so :-)

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Re: Trinity KDE 3.5.11

2010-08-14 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 04:07 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 14:54 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
  On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 18:28 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
   On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 16:34 -0400, Paul Cartwright wrote:
On Thu August 5 2010, John A. Sullivan III wrote:
 Trinity is already compiled for Debian Lenny, so why not give it a
 shot? ;-)  Here is the package list with buildlogs/status/etc.:
 https://quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/~trinity/+archive/trinity

 If you want to use the repository, just add these lines to your
 sources.list file:
 deb
 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu
 lenny main deb-src
 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity-builddeps/ubuntu
 lenny main deb
 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu 
 lenny
 main
 deb-src
 http://ppa.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net/trinity/trinity/ubuntu 
 lenny
 main

so, if I wanted to install this, I would
# aptitude install trinity ?
   snip
   I'm sorry; I thought I had included that in my previous post but I see I
   did not.
   
   Install desktop-base-trinity, kdebase-trinity, and kdepim-trinity.
   
   I use a preferences file such as:
  snip
  Very good news! Tim Pearson has the Trinity site back on-line.  As far
  as I know, the packages are available.  trinity.pearsoncomputing.net
  
  I'm sure they can use all the help they can get now that they've added
  support for Debian to the Ubuntu work so now is the time for all those
  who have been clamoring for KDE3 to be preserved to step up :-)
  
  The best of success to you, Tim, and thanks for all the effort - John
  
  
 The public key for the Debian repository is now available:
 apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.quickbuild.pearsoncomputing.net --recv-keys 
 2B8638D0
 
 
 
Here is the latest update I have from Tim on the rebuild of both the
mail lists and the respository:

OK, all lists are up, including the Trinity ones at
http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/

I am working on the startup failure problem now and have isolated it to
kdelibs.

I am guessing that he must have fixed it because I received an email
from Paul Cartwright later saying he was successful in installing
Trinity - John


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

  
Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?  



(...)

I hope so :-)

Greetings,

  
OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.  Looks 
like I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?  I'm on 
fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any suggestions?
My wish list:  I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as 
workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB.  
Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to prepare drive 
settings to install with reformatting both when inserting CD/DVD.  Any 
suggestions appreciated (really limited computer skills, here).

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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi,

For starters, try finfind answers to your questions, it'll save you
time. Most of what you asked can be answered by browsing around
debian.org, the list archives or searching.

As for versions, i'd stick with stable. Personally i use unstable for
desktops but it does have its occasional quirks (X not starting up
being one of them).

Contribution is up to you, i don't call the shots but tend to think
the best way to contribute is to report bugs.

For your hard-drive setup, read about LVM and/or RAID, i think that's
what you want.

The installation can be done from different media; CDs, flash drives,
through bootp, minimal net install...

The debian site has an installation manual that'll keep you busy for
hours. If it seems daunting, try installing Debian on a virtual
machine in Ubuntu first. Easier to clean up a mess.

HTH,
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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Nuno Magalhães wrote:

Hi,

For starters, try finfind answers to your questions, it'll save you
time. Most of what you asked can be answered by browsing around
debian.org, the list archives or searching.

As for versions, i'd stick with stable. Personally i use unstable for
desktops but it does have its occasional quirks (X not starting up
being one of them).

Contribution is up to you, i don't call the shots but tend to think
the best way to contribute is to report bugs.

For your hard-drive setup, read about LVM and/or RAID, i think that's
what you want.

The installation can be done from different media; CDs, flash drives,
through bootp, minimal net install...

The debian site has an installation manual that'll keep you busy for
hours. If it seems daunting, try installing Debian on a virtual
machine in Ubuntu first. Easier to clean up a mess.

HTH,
Nuno


  
Thanks.  Will do.  It looks like I believe I have an x86/i386 computer, 
so should focus on anything pertaining to debian 5.0/lenny, right?

Tom


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom Poe wrote:
 OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.

Since you are asking then I highly recommend that you install and run
the Debian Stable version.  That is the most well known and well
tested release.  (That is why it is called Stable. :-)  The current
Stable release is called Lenny.  Since you are asking then I recommend
using the i386 architecture for the same reasons.

The other releases are Testing and Unstable.  Unstable is where active
development occurs.  That is the bleeding edge.  The Unstable
distribution is always named Sid.  (Sid is the mean kid in Toy Story
who tortures toys.)  You can upgrade from Stable to Unstable but for
the most part that is a one-way street.  It isn't supported to
downgrade from Unstable to Stable or Testing.

Testing is the staging area for the next Stable.  The currently
Testing release is Squeeze.  Squeeze is getting close to release and
hopefully very soon it will be promoted to Stable but it hasn't
happened yet.

These really are not different distributions.  These are stages in the
overall pipeline of packages.  Packages enter in Unstable.  After a
few days of aging if too many problems are not found then they are
promoted into Testing.  At major release events Testing is promoted to
become the new Stable.

Here is some documentation on Debian release tracks.

  http://www.debian.org/releases/

When you start learning and using Debian it is recommended that you
start with Stable.

 Looks like I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?

No.  That is incorrect.  Debian is a free operating system and you may
always contribute to it.  Also Debian does not sell CDs or DVDs at all
so it is not possible to purchase one from Debian.  There are many
third party vendors who do sell CDs and DVDs.  This is encouraged
because it makes Debian available to a wider user base.  You may
choose to purchase a CD with an official Debian install image from a
third party but it is not required.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

 I'm on fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any
 suggestions?

I assume you have network access.  You posted this question using a
network!  :-)  In which case I recommend a network install.  Can you
download and burn your own CD?  This is probably the most popular
method for obtaining and installing Debian.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Extremely popular are the netinst images.  These are smaller at
between 135-175 MB and install more of the system directly from the
network.  This makes it the fastest to download and burn to a disk.
If I need an installation image and really just need it once or twice
then I always use the netinst image.  You would be good to start with
the netinst image.

You may also download a CD containing a full system image.  I like
using CD #1 because for me it is most versatile.  DO NOT TRY TO
DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE CD OR DVD IMAGES!  I emphasize this because this
is an often confused topic and people sometimes think they need to
download the entire Debian archive which is gigabytes of data.  Let me
curb that early and say that only one bootable image is needed.  All
of the others are provided for use WITHOUT A NETWORK and also for
archival purposes.  The #1 image is a full disk and longer to download
and burn but I like it when I am going to use it a zillion times for
many installs.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/

 My wish list: I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
 160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
 prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
 inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
 computer skills, here).

Using two disk drives together is a more complicated topic.  I can't
recommend this for someone who claims limited computer skills.  It
isn't that difficult.  But it isn't that simple either.  Also note
that if you join together two disk drives then if either disk drive
fails you will lose all of the data on both disk drives.  I don't use
that type of configuration myself.  (I almost exclusively use two disk
drives of similar size in a RAID configuration so that one drive can
fail without data loss to the system.)

Instead let me recommend to you that you pick one of the drives and
install the system upon it.  Use the guided installation with LVM.
LVM is the logical volume manager.  Later that will give you
flexibility to do what you ask if you so choose.  Working with LVM
this way is a little more complicated than without but the guided
installer helps make it easier.

Be sure to read the installation guide.

  http://www.debian.org/doc/

Bob


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:


 Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?
 
 
 (...)

 I hope so :-)



 OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.  

That will vary based on the role of your machine.

- Debian lenny (current stable) is recommended for any use (servers, 
workstations, laptops...). 

- Debian squeeze (current testing) is recommended for a bit more advanced 
users and for newer hadware.

Being your first Debian installtion, I would start with Lenny.

 Lookslike I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?  I'm 
 on fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any suggestions? 

You can contribute in many ways (translating, reporting bugs, helping 
others...), not just by money. Anyway, you can buy a CD/DVD:

Vendors of Debian CDs
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.en.html

Just look for any that suits your needs (which accepts money orders).

Of course, you can also get a free copy of Debian.

 My wish list:  I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB.
 Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to prepare drive
 settings to install with reformatting both when inserting CD/DVD.  Any
 suggestions appreciated (really limited computer skills, here). Tom

Uf, you start hard :-)

I think you will need to setup LVM, wich adds a layer of complexity in 
the installation and management. I do not use LVM at all so someone here 
with experience in this would serve you better.

I'd recommend reading:

6.3.2.4. Configuring the Logical Volume Manager (LVM)
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

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partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Louis Hinman
To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server

To this end, I am installing Debian 5.0 on a Dell Dimension 4100 with a 250 MB 
HD.

On my desktop, I have partitioned my HD as follows:

/root
/swap
/home
/usr/local
/opt

What would be an appropriate partition scheme for my web server?

Thanks  Best Regards,

Lou
NYC


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Bob Proulx wrote:

Tom Poe wrote:
  

OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.



Since you are asking then I highly recommend that you install and run
the Debian Stable version.  That is the most well known and well
tested release.  (That is why it is called Stable. :-)  The current
Stable release is called Lenny.  Since you are asking then I recommend
using the i386 architecture for the same reasons.

The other releases are Testing and Unstable.  Unstable is where active
development occurs.  That is the bleeding edge.  The Unstable
distribution is always named Sid.  (Sid is the mean kid in Toy Story
who tortures toys.)  You can upgrade from Stable to Unstable but for
the most part that is a one-way street.  It isn't supported to
downgrade from Unstable to Stable or Testing.

Testing is the staging area for the next Stable.  The currently
Testing release is Squeeze.  Squeeze is getting close to release and
hopefully very soon it will be promoted to Stable but it hasn't
happened yet.

These really are not different distributions.  These are stages in the
overall pipeline of packages.  Packages enter in Unstable.  After a
few days of aging if too many problems are not found then they are
promoted into Testing.  At major release events Testing is promoted to
become the new Stable.

Here is some documentation on Debian release tracks.

  http://www.debian.org/releases/

When you start learning and using Debian it is recommended that you
start with Stable.

  

Looks like I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?



No.  That is incorrect.  Debian is a free operating system and you may
always contribute to it.  Also Debian does not sell CDs or DVDs at all
so it is not possible to purchase one from Debian.  There are many
third party vendors who do sell CDs and DVDs.  This is encouraged
because it makes Debian available to a wider user base.  You may
choose to purchase a CD with an official Debian install image from a
third party but it is not required.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

  

I'm on fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any
suggestions?



I assume you have network access.  You posted this question using a
network!  :-)  In which case I recommend a network install.  Can you
download and burn your own CD?  This is probably the most popular
method for obtaining and installing Debian.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

Extremely popular are the netinst images.  These are smaller at
between 135-175 MB and install more of the system directly from the
network.  This makes it the fastest to download and burn to a disk.
If I need an installation image and really just need it once or twice
then I always use the netinst image.  You would be good to start with
the netinst image.

You may also download a CD containing a full system image.  I like
using CD #1 because for me it is most versatile.  DO NOT TRY TO
DOWNLOAD ALL OF THE CD OR DVD IMAGES!  I emphasize this because this
is an often confused topic and people sometimes think they need to
download the entire Debian archive which is gigabytes of data.  Let me
curb that early and say that only one bootable image is needed.  All
of the others are provided for use WITHOUT A NETWORK and also for
archival purposes.  The #1 image is a full disk and longer to download
and burn but I like it when I am going to use it a zillion times for
many installs.

  http://www.debian.org/CD/

  

My wish list: I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
computer skills, here).



Using two disk drives together is a more complicated topic.  I can't
recommend this for someone who claims limited computer skills.  It
isn't that difficult.  But it isn't that simple either.  Also note
that if you join together two disk drives then if either disk drive
fails you will lose all of the data on both disk drives.  I don't use
that type of configuration myself.  (I almost exclusively use two disk
drives of similar size in a RAID configuration so that one drive can
fail without data loss to the system.)

Instead let me recommend to you that you pick one of the drives and
install the system upon it.  Use the guided installation with LVM.
LVM is the logical volume manager.  Later that will give you
flexibility to do what you ask if you so choose.  Working with LVM
this way is a little more complicated than without but the guided
installer helps make it easier.

Be sure to read the installation guide.

  http://www.debian.org/doc/

Bob
  
Thanks.  Excellent information.  I'm on my way. 
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Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Mark
2010/8/14 Stanisław Findeisen s...@eisenbits.homelinux.net

 Hi

 I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects
 me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The
 problem is I am being prompted for this key every time.

 Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have to type the key. It is
 stored in the GNOME keyring (I use nm-editor 0.6.6 for that).
 But then, when it disconnects, I have to type it again and again. Why?

 And sometimes it doesn't prompt me, and failes to authenticate also. :-|
 I had to delete the network entry from the GNOME keyring (nm-editor),
 get *prompted* for the key, and *then* I was authenticated. 8-|

 What's wrong??!


I had a similar issue a while ago on a friend's machine and wondered the
same thing.  Searched for days before finally finding a solution somewhere
buried deep in the Ubuntu forums; your nm-editor hack sounds familiar.  My
friend's machine had auto login which caused the issue with wpa encryption.
It was on Debian Lenny.


Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

  

Camaleón wrote:


On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:


  

Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?




(...)

I hope so :-)



  
OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.  



That will vary based on the role of your machine.

- Debian lenny (current stable) is recommended for any use (servers, 
workstations, laptops...). 

- Debian squeeze (current testing) is recommended for a bit more advanced 
users and for newer hadware.


Being your first Debian installtion, I would start with Lenny.

  
Lookslike I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?  I'm 
on fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any suggestions? 



You can contribute in many ways (translating, reporting bugs, helping 
others...), not just by money. Anyway, you can buy a CD/DVD:


Vendors of Debian CDs
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.en.html

Just look for any that suits your needs (which accepts money orders).

Of course, you can also get a free copy of Debian.

  

My wish list:  I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB.
Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to prepare drive
settings to install with reformatting both when inserting CD/DVD.  Any
suggestions appreciated (really limited computer skills, here). Tom



Uf, you start hard :-)

I think you will need to setup LVM, wich adds a layer of complexity in 
the installation and management. I do not use LVM at all so someone here 
with experience in this would serve you better.


I'd recommend reading:

6.3.2.4. Configuring the Logical Volume Manager (LVM)
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition

Greetings,

  

Thanks for the link.  Will definitely follow it.
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Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Mark
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote:

 2010/8/14 Stanisław Findeisen s...@eisenbits.homelinux.net

 Hi

 I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects
 me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The
 problem is I am being prompted for this key every time.

 Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have to type the key. It is
 stored in the GNOME keyring (I use nm-editor 0.6.6 for that).
 But then, when it disconnects, I have to type it again and again. Why?

 And sometimes it doesn't prompt me, and failes to authenticate also. :-|
 I had to delete the network entry from the GNOME keyring (nm-editor),
 get *prompted* for the key, and *then* I was authenticated. 8-|

 What's wrong??!


 I had a similar issue a while ago on a friend's machine and wondered the
 same thing.  Searched for days before finally finding a solution somewhere
 buried deep in the Ubuntu forums; your nm-editor hack sounds familiar.  My
 friend's machine had auto login which caused the issue with wpa encryption.
 It was on Debian Lenny.


P.S. that was when I officially gave up on Network Manager for wireless
devices running wpa.  I only use wicd for wifi now, and have zero problems,
so you may want to consider that option.


Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson

brownh wrote:

Jimmy,

I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it
to the list.

The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running
cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key,
but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that so? 

Haines Brown 



I use gparted and it works for me, I do as I describe in the post you 
are replying to.

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Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Hi,

I have the fs' checking period set to 50 mounts for now some years. The
problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and
always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs,
my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups,
but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I
don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the
AucTeX files. Well, auctex is simply an emacs extension for LaTeX, and I
can't understand why some specific files always cause troubles. I don't
always get the same errors. This time, it was mainly *things like error
filesystem Inode has EXTENTS_FL flag set, but not too many.*
**
*1) Why are they happening? My disk is not old. (/dev/sdc5 is on another
disk than the /etc, etc.)*
*2) Should I think about buying another hdd? I tried with the hdd life
tools (I can't remember their names) which are bundled with Debian, but
they don't show any failing thing (they have quite the same score as
other hdds in my computer).*
***

Thanks.
*

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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Merciadri Luca
Camaleón wrote:
 Can you launch eclipse with some -debug option? Maybe you'll get 
 additonal information.
   
Sure.

==
$ ./eclipse -debug
Start VM: -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Xms40m
-Xmx384m
-Djava.class.path=/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar
-os linux
-ws gtk
-arch x86
-showsplash
/home/merciadriluca/eclipse//plugins/org.eclipse.platform_3.6.0.v201006080911/splash.bmp
-launcher /home/merciadriluca/eclipse/eclipse
-name Eclipse
--launcher.library
/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.linux.x86_1.1.0.v20100503/eclipse_1307.so
-startup
/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar
-product org.eclipse.epp.package.java.product
-debug
-vm
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/../jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
-vmargs
-Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5
-XX:MaxPermSize=256m
-Xms40m
-Xmx384m
-Djava.class.path=/home/merciadriluca/eclipse/plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.1.0.v20100507.jar

Error occurred during initialization of VM
java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object
==

Nothing interesting there.


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Disk error?

2010-08-14 Thread pch0317

Hi.
I have problem with my laptop.
When I use graphic enviroment some program like icedove don't response.
I think, this is depend on disk.
I put in attachment dmesg output. The last lines, I think, give the answer.

Thanks


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 12:16:23 -0400 (EDT), Tom Poe tom...@meltel.net wrote:
 ...
 Looks like I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?
 ...

Many vendors who sell Debian CDs allow you to make a contribution
to Debian in conjunction with your purchase.  But that is not the
only way to financially contribute to Debian.  I would use the
installation method that suits you best, regardless of whether or not
that method allows you to make a contribution.  Myself, I prefer the
so-called netboot installation image, which is very small.

In any case, if you wish to make a financial contribution to Debian,
see the following web page: http://www.debian.org/donations.

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Blank blue screen after logging into an account for the first time with gdm choosing window manager

2010-08-14 Thread Daniel Trebbien
On one of my computers, running Debian Squeeze, I have two user
accounts. One has been used exclusively for running Nautilus and GNOME
applications. The other has been used exclusively over SSH. At
start-up, gdm automatically logs into the graphical account, but
today I decided that I wanted to use Nautilus with the other account
as well.

After gdm automatically logged me into the graphical account, I then
logged out and entered my username and password for the other account.
Once the gdm screen cleared, I immediately saw a full-screen
wizard-like GUI that was asking me to choose a window manager. There
were two options: metacity and Twm with metacity selected by
default. I unchecked Ask every time and clicked OK. That screen
disappeared, but all that I saw was a blank blue screen and the mouse
cursor. I could move the mouse and the cursor would move, but nothing
else loaded. In particular, Nautilus and the GNOME panels did not
load. I had to forcefully shut down the computer just to get out.

The content of the account's .xsession-errors file is:

/etc/gdm/Xsession: Beginning session setup...
Added '/usr/bin/metacity' to list of window managers, as it is the
configured default.

So why didn't Nautilus start after I selected a window manager?


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Re: Disk error?

2010-08-14 Thread green
pch0317 wrote at 2010-08-14 13:56 -0500:
 I put in attachment dmesg output. The last lines, I think, give the answer.

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Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Hanspeter Spalinger
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On 08/14/2010 09:01 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have the fs' checking period set to 50 mounts for now some years. The
 problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and
 always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs,
 my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups,
 but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I
 don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the
 AucTeX files. Well, auctex is simply an emacs extension for LaTeX, and I
 can't understand why some specific files always cause troubles. I don't
 always get the same errors. This time, it was mainly *things like error
 filesystem Inode has EXTENTS_FL flag set, but not too many.*
 **
 *1) Why are they happening? My disk is not old. (/dev/sdc5 is on another
 disk than the /etc, etc.)*
 *2) Should I think about buying another hdd? I tried with the hdd life
 tools (I can't remember their names) which are bundled with Debian, but
 they don't show any failing thing (they have quite the same score as
 other hdds in my computer).*
 ***
 
 Thanks.
 *
 
Hi,
Do you actualy FIX those errors? Afaik the fsck at startup does not fix
all errors (it plays safe). Try run fsck manualy (but make a backup
first and read the man-page).
I assume you use the other partitions more often, with no error, so i
don't think your problem is hardware related.
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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100814_125047, Tom Poe wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 
 
 Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use debian?
 (...)
 
 I hope so :-)
 
 
 
 OK.  So, for starters, I'd like to know which version to use.
 
 That will vary based on the role of your machine.
 
 - Debian lenny (current stable) is recommended for any use
 (servers, workstations, laptops...).
 
 - Debian squeeze (current testing) is recommended for a bit more
 advanced users and for newer hadware.
 
 Being your first Debian installtion, I would start with Lenny.
 
 Lookslike I can contribute to debian if I purchase CD/DVD, right?
 I'm on fixed income, so would have to send money order.  Any
 suggestions?
 
 You can contribute in many ways (translating, reporting bugs,
 helping others...), not just by money. Anyway, you can buy a
 CD/DVD:
 
 Vendors of Debian CDs
 http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/index.en.html
 
 Just look for any that suits your needs (which accepts money orders).
 
 Of course, you can also get a free copy of Debian.
 
 My wish list:  I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB.
 Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to prepare drive
 settings to install with reformatting both when inserting CD/DVD.  Any
 suggestions appreciated (really limited computer skills, here). Tom
 
 Uf, you start hard :-)
 
 I think you will need to setup LVM, wich adds a layer of complexity
 in the installation and management. I do not use LVM at all so
 someone here with experience in this would serve you better.
 
 I'd recommend reading:
 
 6.3.2.4. Configuring the Logical Volume Manager (LVM)
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition
 
 Greetings,
 
 Thanks for the link.  Will definitely follow it.
 Tom
 

Tom, 
The last time I did an install, I noticed that the netinstall CD contains
an option for setting up LVM as part to the initial install. I haven't
used it, as I don't do LVM. But it is there. 

This is by no means a suggestion that you can avoid reading the
documentation prior to doing an install. Do have a look at www.debian.org
I suggest your first contribution to Debian might be reading www.debian.org
with the mind-set of a new user. What do you find puzzling or confusing.

Discover the bug tracking system. Make bug reports about what you find.
The bug tracking system has categories for documentation, wishes, etc.
There is a special category just for reports about doing the install.

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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 
 Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use
 debian?
 
 I hope so :-)
 
 [snip] 

 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
 160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
 prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
 inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
 computer skills, here).
 Tom
 

Tom,

I'm not sure what you mean by use both drives as one, but I think
you are adding some complexity that doesn't need to be there. Since
you are just starting, I suggest you DO NOT try to merge the disks
in any way. Here is a different suggestion.

You are probably somewhat familiar with the linux file system from
using Ubuntu. One of the basic concepts, different from Windows, is
that there is only one file system on the machine, and every hard
disk, or CD, or DVD, or flash drive is integrated somewhere into this
file system. There is no C:\, nor D:\, nor E:\, but only one file
system /.

My computer has three hard drives and, 2 DVD drives, some network
drives. And they all work as one, which is part of your wishlist.
Here is the more basic way to accomplish this:

Install the operating system onto whichever drive is newer and
more trustworthy. Ignore the other hard drive during the installation
process. After the system is up and running well, you will add that
second hard drive back into your system, and use it for some function
that needs extra storage.

You could use the second hard drive as a backup:

/the root of the file system
/home/tom/   your home folder
/mnt/backup/ -- everything placed in this folder goes on your 2nd hdd

Or you could use the second hard drive to store digital camera
images:

/   the root of the file system
/home/tom/  your home folder
/home/tom/images/Canon/ -- everything place in this folder goes on your 
2nd hdd

This is a more simple, basic, normal setup. Once you are using
the computer, all hard drives will seem to be unified into this
one file system. They will all function as one and be totally
transparent to you. It will all appear to be one big 240 GB file
system. Would that be good enough?

Phil


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Re: Why is /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12 not recognized in update-alternatives?

2010-08-14 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 21:00:10 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

 Can you launch eclipse with some -debug option? Maybe you'll get
 additonal information.
   
 Sure.
 
 ==
 $ ./eclipse -debug

(...)

 -vm
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/bin/../jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so

(...)

 Error occurred during initialization of VM
 java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError: java/lang/Object ==
 
 Nothing interesting there.

The above path... not sure if it's right.

Try by manually forcing the full path to java bin:

***
./eclipse -debug -vm 
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/sun-java6-6-12/jdk1.6.0_12/jre/bin/java
***

Also, run which java and put here the output.

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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Phil Requirements wrote:

On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
  

Camaleón wrote:


On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

  

Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use
debian?


I hope so :-)

  
[snip] 


workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
computer skills, here).
Tom




Tom,

I'm not sure what you mean by use both drives as one, but I think
you are adding some complexity that doesn't need to be there. Since
you are just starting, I suggest you DO NOT try to merge the disks
in any way. Here is a different suggestion.

You are probably somewhat familiar with the linux file system from
using Ubuntu. One of the basic concepts, different from Windows, is
that there is only one file system on the machine, and every hard
disk, or CD, or DVD, or flash drive is integrated somewhere into this
file system. There is no C:\, nor D:\, nor E:\, but only one file
system /.

My computer has three hard drives and, 2 DVD drives, some network
drives. And they all work as one, which is part of your wishlist.
Here is the more basic way to accomplish this:

Install the operating system onto whichever drive is newer and
more trustworthy. Ignore the other hard drive during the installation
process. After the system is up and running well, you will add that
second hard drive back into your system, and use it for some function
that needs extra storage.

You could use the second hard drive as a backup:

/the root of the file system
/home/tom/   your home folder
/mnt/backup/ -- everything placed in this folder goes on your 2nd hdd

Or you could use the second hard drive to store digital camera
images:

/   the root of the file system
/home/tom/  your home folder
/home/tom/images/Canon/ -- everything place in this folder goes on your 
2nd hdd

This is a more simple, basic, normal setup. Once you are using
the computer, all hard drives will seem to be unified into this
one file system. They will all function as one and be totally
transparent to you. It will all appear to be one big 240 GB file
system. Would that be good enough?

Phil


  
Your description sounds like we're on the same page.  My hard drives 
need the settings on the pins set up as master/slave?

Tom


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4c66d777.5010...@meltel.net, Tom Poe wrote:
Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 My wish list:  I'd like to install debian on desktop that serves as
 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and 160GB.
 Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to prepare drive
 settings to install with reformatting both when inserting CD/DVD.  Any
 suggestions appreciated (really limited computer skills, here). Tom
 
 Uf, you start hard :-)
 I'd recommend reading:
 
 6.3.2.4. Configuring the Logical Volume Manager (LVM)
 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition
 
 Greetings,

Thanks for the link.  Will definitely follow it.

Without going into all the details, I suggest you prepare a 100 MB '/boot' 
partition that is not under the control of LVM.
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Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread brownh
Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com writes:

 brownh wrote:
 Jimmy,

 I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it
 to the list.

 The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running
 cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key,
 but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that so? 

 Haines Brown 


 I use gparted and it works for me, I do as I describe in the post you
 are replying to.

Jimmy, sorry to follow your kind answer with a question about it. This 
gnome application, gparted, is only described as a partition
manipulator (I don't use any desktop environment, and so I'm not
familiar with it). Does this manipulation include setting a boot
flag? If so, then does your answer imply that this flag does indeed
have to be set, despite an absense of its mention in some of the
directions for making a bootable USB key?

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Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 201008141400.06004.sl...@rcn.com, Louis Hinman wrote:
On my desktop, I have partitioned my HD as follows:

/root

You mean '/' right?  '/' is the root of the unified UNIX/Linux directory tree 
for a single system.  '/root' is a directory (not usually a separate file 
system) that is normally used as the home directory of the root user.

/swap

Swap space isn't part of the directory tree; it doesn't have a pathname like 
this.

/home
/usr/local
/opt


What would be an appropriate partition scheme for my web server?

/home, /tmp, and /var/tmp (as well as any other world-writable directory) 
should be separate file systems.  (They could reside on the same partition or 
even, as is in my case, on non-partitioned space.)

Other than that, I think the rest is really personal preference if you don't 
want to share the file systems between multiple systems.

/usr, /usr/local, /opt, /var, /srv, /var/cache, /boot can each be justified as 
separate file systems, but I don't think any are mandatory for your set-up.
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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100814_165057, Tom Poe wrote:
 Phil Requirements wrote:
 On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
 
 Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use
 debian?
 I hope so :-)
 
 [snip]
 
 workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
 160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
 prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
 inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
 computer skills, here).
 Tom
 
 
 Tom,
 
 I'm not sure what you mean by use both drives as one, but I think
 you are adding some complexity that doesn't need to be there. Since
 you are just starting, I suggest you DO NOT try to merge the disks
 in any way. Here is a different suggestion.
 
 You are probably somewhat familiar with the linux file system from
 using Ubuntu. One of the basic concepts, different from Windows, is
 that there is only one file system on the machine, and every hard
 disk, or CD, or DVD, or flash drive is integrated somewhere into this
 file system. There is no C:\, nor D:\, nor E:\, but only one file
 system /.
 
 My computer has three hard drives and, 2 DVD drives, some network
 drives. And they all work as one, which is part of your wishlist.
 Here is the more basic way to accomplish this:
 
 Install the operating system onto whichever drive is newer and
 more trustworthy. Ignore the other hard drive during the installation
 process. After the system is up and running well, you will add that
 second hard drive back into your system, and use it for some function
 that needs extra storage.
 
 You could use the second hard drive as a backup:
 
 /the root of the file system
 /home/tom/   your home folder
 /mnt/backup/ -- everything placed in this folder goes on your 2nd hdd
 
 Or you could use the second hard drive to store digital camera
 images:
 
 /   the root of the file system
 /home/tom/  your home folder
 /home/tom/images/Canon/ -- everything place in this folder goes on your 
  2nd hdd
 
 This is a more simple, basic, normal setup. Once you are using
 the computer, all hard drives will seem to be unified into this
 one file system. They will all function as one and be totally
 transparent to you. It will all appear to be one big 240 GB file
 system. Would that be good enough?
 
 Phil
 
 
 Your description sounds like we're on the same page.  My hard drives
 need the settings on the pins set up as master/slave?
  

Are you running Ununtu now? Does Ubuntu see both drives? If so, Debian
will discover them during install. Nothing to change in the hardware.

The more difficult problem is with Windows. If you are running
Microsoft Windows now *and* want to be able to run Windows after
installing Debian, then you should find and read the sections of the
installation guide that cover dual booting.

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Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Louis Hinman wrote:
 To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server

Well, a web server is just a component and it does 

 To this end, I am installing Debian 5.0 on a Dell Dimension 4100
 with a 250 MB HD.

250 Megabyte?  Or 250 Gigabyte?  A small installation will easily fit
within 200MB.  But that is getting harder for the novice to do as code
bloat is settling into everything and the default is to install more
than you need.

 On my desktop, I have partitioned my HD as follows:
 
 /root
 /swap
 /home
 /usr/local
 /opt
 
 What would be an appropriate partition scheme for my web server?

For the novice putting everything into one partition is often easiest.
It is simple.  You don't have to plan ahead very much for it.  But
when you run out of disk space you run out of it everywhere.  For
example if the filesystem is completely full then /var/log/syslog
won't be able to log any problems and /var/spool/postfix (or exim or
whatever) won't be able to send you email notifying you of problems.
Therefore many people myself included like to separate the volumes to
isolate functionality.  This can keep email flowing even when other
parts of the system are blocked by a full disk.

Also disks are getting very large these days.  Putting 2T into one
filesystem works fine.  But when or if a problem occurs then it occurs
across a 2T filesystem and can be very painful to work with while
trying to correct problems.  Almost anything dealing with large
filesystems take a long time.  Therefore sizing to a better fit size
with several smaller filesystems can optimize disaster recovery.
I use LVM to enable me to fit sizes better and to grow (or shrink) as
needed.

Since I use LVM, LVM with RAID, LVM with encrypted partitions, and
other configurations I always set up /boot on its own ext2 partition.
I am currently consuming between 30M and 90M on various machines in
/boot so anything 100M or larger would be fine.  That is so small that
there isn't any real gain by using ext3 or ext4 and with the journal
it is worse.  Using ext2 keeps it simple for the bootloader and is
well supported.

I always set /var up on a separate partition.  This enables logs to be
recorded and email to be transfered even if other parts of the
filesystem become full.  The size needed will vary with your
particular use of it.  Since I use LVM I can expand and contract it
after installation and so am not locked to the installation size.  I
usually install a 3G /var partition.

If it is just myself using the machine than /boot, /var and / might be
plenty enough.  But if there are multiple users then I always set up
/home and potentially individual user partitions.  Some users are disk
hogs.  The steady state of filesystems is full.  I keep disk hog users
on their own partition and then they don't negatively impact everyone
else on the system.  I find using LVM and partitions easier than user
quotas.  With LVM it is easy to create and size custom partitions.
(Side Note: I like xfs but you can't downsize a partition.  So I have
been using ext3 for the most part which supports both upsizing and
downsizing on the fly.)

If you are going to use /usr/local/* or /opt/* for your own purposes
then by all means feel free to set up partitions for them.  I don't
usually need those on my systems.  On Debian /opt isn't normally used.
It is completely a local option to use it.  This is the opposite of
some commercial Unix systems.

For me every server almost always has one or more chroots set up on
them.  Each chroot is a little system and so could have their own
individual partitions.  But I find that using one partition for /srv
and setting up /srv/chroot/* is usually sufficient for my needs.  Then
if the /srv/chroot/sid/var/ fills up it again doesn't cause global
problems on the rest of the system.

Summary:  Here is my recommendation.

  /boot   200M as ext2
  /var3G
  /   Size As Needed
  /...others...Set Up As Needed

Keep some free blocks reserved in LVM ready to deploy when needed.
Set up additional partitions as you need them.  Stay flexible.  There
is no one true correct answer and many admins will have their own
individualized recipes.

As long as I am here I should mention that Linux memory overcommit
should also be factored into setting up a server for reliability and
sizing swap and virtual memory needs follow.  I have previously posted
on this before so instead of repeating myself again just let me say
please go read these previous postings about the avoiding the OOM Killer.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2007/08/msg00022.html

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/04/msg02554.html

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Re: Blank blue screen after logging into an account for the first time with gdm amp; choosing window manager

2010-08-14 Thread Daniel Trebbien
 So why didn't Nautilus start after I selected a window manager?

I figured it out. For some reason, the X session manager was set to
`/usr/bin/choosewm` by default when it needed to be `/usr/bin/gnome-session`. I
corrected this with:

sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager



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Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Merciadri Luca wrote:
 but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I
 don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the

Does your disk support S.M.A.R.T.?

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.

Try it and see if the disk drive reports any physical errors.

  $ sudo apt-get install smartmontools

Here are some example uses:

  $ sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda
  SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
  SMART support is: Enabled

If smart is available but disabled then you would need to enable it
before making use of it.

  $ sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda

Then check the disk health status.

  $ sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda
  SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

You can manually run a selftest like this:

  $ sudo smartctl -t short /dev/sda

Then wait a couple of minutes for the test to complete and then
observe the results.

  $ sudo smartctl -l selftest /dev/sda

I recommend setting up automatic regular selftests by configuring
smartmontools to run them regularly.

Hopefully your disk is okay and not reporting physical errors.

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Re: partitioning HD for server

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote:
 Louis Hinman wrote:
  To learn Liunx networking, I am going to set up a web server
 
 Well, a web server is just a component and it does 

I should finish my thoughts before sending.  Sigh.

Well, a web server is just a component and it by itself really isn't
enough to learn networking.  Something like setting up a firewall
would be more on the networking side of things.  But a web server can
be fun and useful just by itself.

Bob


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Re: newbie intro

2010-08-14 Thread Tom Poe

Paul E Condon wrote:

On 20100814_165057, Tom Poe wrote:
  

Phil Requirements wrote:


On 2010-08-14 11:16:23 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:
  

Camaleón wrote:


On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 09:51:21 -0500, Tom Poe wrote:

  

Hi:  Is this correct list for learning how to install and use
debian?


I hope so :-)

  

[snip]

workstation/server.  The desktop has two hard drives, 80GB and
160GB.  Would like to use both drives as one.  Not sure how to
prepare drive settings to install with reformatting both when
inserting CD/DVD.  Any suggestions appreciated (really limited
computer skills, here).
Tom



Tom,

I'm not sure what you mean by use both drives as one, but I think
you are adding some complexity that doesn't need to be there. Since
you are just starting, I suggest you DO NOT try to merge the disks
in any way. Here is a different suggestion.

You are probably somewhat familiar with the linux file system from
using Ubuntu. One of the basic concepts, different from Windows, is
that there is only one file system on the machine, and every hard
disk, or CD, or DVD, or flash drive is integrated somewhere into this
file system. There is no C:\, nor D:\, nor E:\, but only one file
system /.

My computer has three hard drives and, 2 DVD drives, some network
drives. And they all work as one, which is part of your wishlist.
Here is the more basic way to accomplish this:

Install the operating system onto whichever drive is newer and
more trustworthy. Ignore the other hard drive during the installation
process. After the system is up and running well, you will add that
second hard drive back into your system, and use it for some function
that needs extra storage.

You could use the second hard drive as a backup:

   /the root of the file system
   /home/tom/   your home folder
   /mnt/backup/ -- everything placed in this folder goes on your 2nd hdd

Or you could use the second hard drive to store digital camera
images:

   /   the root of the file system
   /home/tom/  your home folder
   /home/tom/images/Canon/ -- everything place in this folder goes on your 2nd 
hdd

This is a more simple, basic, normal setup. Once you are using
the computer, all hard drives will seem to be unified into this
one file system. They will all function as one and be totally
transparent to you. It will all appear to be one big 240 GB file
system. Would that be good enough?

Phil


  

Your description sounds like we're on the same page.  My hard drives
need the settings on the pins set up as master/slave?


  

Are you running Ununtu now? Does Ubuntu see both drives? If so, Debian
will discover them during install. Nothing to change in the hardware.

The more difficult problem is with Windows. If you are running
Microsoft Windows now *and* want to be able to run Windows after
installing Debian, then you should find and read the sections of the
installation guide that cover dual booting.

  
Ubuntu sees both drives, now.  DUH!  Now you know why I never worked in 
the IT industry.


I can't think of any reason for using Windows.  I have an older eMachine 
from Wal-Mart that I hope to set up an Asterisk PBX this winter.  And, 
I've got a really old 8GB computer that has an older version of Fedora 
that holds a couple hours of music on it.  That's my basic home 
network.  There is one critical app that I hope is in lenny: LiVES.  
Looks like it would be a good home video editing application to learn 
how to make my own videos.

Tom


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Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Hanspeter Spalinger wrote:
 Merciadri Luca wrote:
  problem is that I always get errors when e2fsck verifies the fs, and
  always on the same: /dev/sdc5.  ...
  but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I
  don't use it often, at least these times. I always have errors about the

 Do you actualy FIX those errors? Afaik the fsck at startup does not fix
 all errors (it plays safe). Try run fsck manualy (but make a backup
 first and read the man-page).

The control for this is in /etc/default/rcS with the FSCKFIX
variable.  If it is set to no then no fix happens.  If it is set to
yes then at boot time fsck is enabled to automatically fix what it
can.

In /etc/default/rcS file:
  FSCKFIX=yes

Note that if it is set to no on a remote server that you do not have
console access to then it is possible to get into a state where the
machine will not reboot on its own because it will be waiting for
console access to get past the fsck questions.

These are documented in the rcS man page.

  $ man rcS

   FSCKFIX
  When the root and all other file systems are checked,
  fsck is invoked with the -a option which means
  autorepair.  If there are major inconsistencies then
  the fsck process will bail out.  The system will print a
  message asking the administrator to repair the file
  system manually and will present a root shell prompt
  (actually a sulogin prompt) on the console.  Setting
  this option to yes causes the fsck commands to be run
  with the -y option instead of the -a option.  This will
  tell fsck always to repair the file systems without
  asking for permission.

 I assume you use the other partitions more often, with no error, so i
 don't think your problem is hardware related.

A good diagnosis!  But I would still look to be sure.  :-)

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Re: building 2.6.35

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:12:02 -0400 (EDT), Angus Hedger wrote:
 
 The two things that i use k-headers for myself are the nvidia blob,
 and the virtual-box km's
 
 The only issues I ran into when building headers via make-kpkg where as 
 follows,
 
 Make sure you use the same -append-to-version -stuff-here line as
 you do when building your kernel, or they wont match up and it wont
 find the k-headers.
 
 And, I have found that the packages made by make-kpkg are setting the
 wrong /lib/modules/kernel version/build symlink, pointing it to my
 the dir where i build the kernel rather than the correct
 /usr/src/kernel headers dir.
 
 (I think i need to bug report the 2nd, but I don't know if its
 something I am doing wrong).

I don't think that this is a bug.  I think you're trying to mix and match
two different ways of doing things.  There are two basic ways of creating
an out-of-kernel-source-tree module from source: (1) install the kernel
headers and compile the out-of-kernel-source-tree module from source
using the kernel headers, and (2) if you have the whole kernel source tree
installed, compile using the kernel source.  What you're doing is creating
a kernel header package from the kernel source and then using method (1),
when you should be using method (2).  I spent the better part of the day
today playing around with this.  Perhaps the results of my experiment
will prove instructive in some way.

I have a computer, i386 architecture, which runs Debian Squeeze.  It has
an Nvidia video card with a RIVA TNT2 chipset.  It currently runs a stock
Debian kernel (linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, version 2.6.32-18) and it uses
the nv driver for X (xserver-xorg-video-nv, version 1:2.1.17-3).  I can't
use the nouveau driver, unfortunately, because interlaced video modes do
not work with the nouveau driver and my CRT monitor requires
interlaced video modes to operate at its maximum resolution due to
its low maximum pixel clock rate.)  I decided to build a custom
kernel and at the same time attempt to activate the proprietary nvidia
driver.  I really didn't need or want to do either one, but for the sake
of making my kernel-building web page more useful, I decided to do this
exercise.  Here is what I did.

The first step was to figure out which kernel source packages I needed.
For the kernel source code, that was easy: linux-source-2.6.32.  But for
the nvidia kernel module source package, that took a little research.
It turns out that for a video card with the RIVA TNT2 chipset,
the correct answer is nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source.  I looked at the
bug reports for the corresponding Debian source package,
nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-71xx, and was disheartened.  Bug number
543248 looked like it was going to be a show stopper.  But for the sake
of the academic exercise, I pressed on.

The first problem is that nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source exists only
in Sid.  And I run Squeeze.  So I had to update some apt files.  First,
I edited /etc/apt/sources.list.

--

$ cd /etc/apt
$ su
# cat sources.list
deb ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main non-free contrib
# vi sources.list [editing commands not shown]
# cat sources.list
deb ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main non-free contrib
deb ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian sid main non-free contrib
deb-src ftp://ftp.uwsg.indiana.edu/linux/debian sid main non-free contrib
# 

--

As you can see, I added two lines to the end to define the sid release.
But I only wanted packages from sid that I explicitly ask for.  I
didn't want a massive update.  So I created a couple of extra files.
I will simply show you their contents.

--

# cat apt.conf
APT::Default-Release squeeze;
# cat preferences
Package: *
Pin: release a=sid
Pin-Priority: 1
#

--

Note: I've heard that synaptic does not respect these files,
but I have no independent verification of that.  aptitude and
apt-get do honor it, however.  Anyway, moving on ...

--

# aptitude update [since sources.list, et al, were changed]
# aptitude install linux-source-2.6.32
# aptitude -t sid -R install nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source
# aptitude install kernel-package fakeroot libncurses5-dev
# exit
$ cd /usr/src
$ tar -xjf linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2
$ rm linux-source-2.6.32.tar.bz2
$ tar -xzf nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source.tar.gz
$ rm nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-source.tar.gz

--

Note: the rm commands both give the following warning message:

   rm: remove write-protected regular file file name?

That's 

Re: building 2.6.35

2010-08-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 20:29:11 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote:
 --
 
 $ cd linux-source-2.6.32
 $ cp /boot/config-2.6.32-5-686 .config
 $ make menuconfig
 $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -custom5-686 --revision 2.6.32-18 \
--initrd --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image
 $ cd ..
 $ su
 # dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.32-custom5-686_2.6.32-18_i386.deb
 # aptitude install nvidia-kernel-common
 # dpkg -i 
 nvidia-kernel-legacy-71xx-2.6.32-custom5-686_71.86.13-1+2.6.32-18_i386.deb
 # dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-custom5-686 [not sure if needed, 
 but ...]
 # shutdown -r now;exit
 
 --

Oops!  I forgot to show the make-kpkg clean step after make menuconfig.
I'm not sure if this is still needed anymore, but it's good practice.  In real
life, I did issue it; but when I composed the e-mail, I forgot to document
it.

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Re: Corrupted FS every 50 checks

2010-08-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 always on the same: /dev/sdc5. Well, this is where I have all my docs,
 my university stuff, and this is even more annoying. I could do backups,

I sure hope you *DID* extensive backups.  Often.  And stored some of
them for permanent archival.

 but I can't understand why this filesystem is problematic, because I

The typical answer is: because it is always getting corrupted again.

 always get the same errors. This time, it was mainly *things like error
 filesystem Inode has EXTENTS_FL flag set, but not too many.*

This could mean you've managed to messing with an ext4 filesystem as if
it were ext3.  That won't corrupt file data, but can cause lots of other
problems, and could cause data loss if you manage to confuse the kernel
and the fsck tools enough.  With some luck, it will end up in lost+found
after the proper fsck.

I sure hope that's what is happening.

 *2) Should I think about buying another hdd? I tried with the hdd life

You should do a 24H memtest86 marathon on that box.  And you should make
sure you're *always* using that filesystem as ext4, since you apparently
have a part of it using ext4 features.

If it is a hardware problem, it is a strange one... it should be messing
with the entire disk, not just a set of files in the same partition. It
can't be bad magnetic media, as that causes sector read errors, not
corruption.

I hope this answer helps you.  I won't be able to help you further on this.
Maybe someone else can (or has a better idea of what the problem could be).

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  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Creating a bootable USB key

2010-08-14 Thread Jimmy Johnson

brownh wrote:

Jimmy Johnson field.engin...@gmail.com writes:


brownh wrote:

Jimmy,

I inadvertangly sent this message to you personally, but here send it
to the list.

The directions for creating a bootable USB key don't mention running
cfdisk on it to make it bootable. I simply copied syslinux to the key,
but suspect I have to run cfdisk as well. Is that so? 

Haines Brown 


I use gparted and it works for me, I do as I describe in the post you
are replying to.


Jimmy, sorry to follow your kind answer with a question about it. This 
gnome application, gparted, is only described as a partition

manipulator (I don't use any desktop environment, and so I'm not
familiar with it). Does this manipulation include setting a boot
flag? If so, then does your answer imply that this flag does indeed
have to be set, despite an absense of its mention in some of the
directions for making a bootable USB key?



Yes, with a right click on the partition you can set a boot flag using 
gparted, a great tool to have on hand, many ways to get GParted as a 
live cd or as an iso, 
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=gparted or get PartedMagic 
with a lot more tools including TestDisk, Web Browser, File Manager 
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=partedmagic


As for the rest of your question, I'm just telling you what works for 
me, if I want to boot a drive, Hard Drive or Flash Drive, I put a boot 
flag on it.

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Re: 802.11 WPA network key prompt despite GNOME keyring

2010-08-14 Thread Andrew Reid
On Saturday 14 August 2010 04:16:47 Stanisław Findeisen wrote:
 Hi

 I am trying to use a 802.11 wireless network that frequently disconnects
 me (low signal). The network is protected with WPA pre-shared key. The
 problem is I am being prompted for this key every time.

 Well, almost every. When I log in, I do not have to type the key. It is
 stored in the GNOME keyring (I use nm-editor 0.6.6 for that).
 But then, when it disconnects, I have to type it again and again. Why?

 And sometimes it doesn't prompt me, and failes to authenticate also. :-|
 I had to delete the network entry from the GNOME keyring (nm-editor),
 get *prompted* for the key, and *then* I was authenticated. 8-|

 What's wrong??!

  I've had a similar issue, and in my case, it seems to revolve
around the network manager -- I can always clear it by doing
 sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart

  In my case, this is actually on Ubuntu 10.04, but the symptoms
are identical.

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