Re: Nettoyage du spam dans les listes de diffusion Debian francophones
On Sunday 02 January 2011 07:03:05 Christian PERRIER wrote: J'ai relu de 2007 inclu à 2010 inclu Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101020925.34734.tchate...@free.fr
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
Oui, je me suis notamment aidé du site formation-debian pour en comprendre les rouages, mais pas de résultats pour l'instant... Là je ne pige pas, le serveur X affiche toujours un écran noir mais aucune erreur, comme s'il fonctionnait normalement... merci, mat On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 05:20:20PM +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Saturday 01 January 2011 17:11:28 TISSET Mathieu wrote: Tout d'abord, merci pour ta réponse. Alors, l'install est une lenny, choisie parce qu'elle est stable (du coup, je ne me suis pas posé la question de la stabilisation de squeeze). L'install basique est volontaire, je cherche à comprendre le fonctionnement de chaque brique d'un OS et souhaite donc installer étape par étape... Tu comprends donc mes réticences face à tes propositions d'installation auto ;) En tout cas, merci et je reste à l'écoute si tu as d'autres idées. mat D'accord, c'est une très bonne raison. Tu devrais donc trouver là: http://formation-debian.via.ecp.fr/ tout plein de bonnes info, en particulier dans la section 3, qui traite du serveur graphique. Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101011720.20913.tchate...@free.fr -- TISSET Mathieu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102093559.gb11...@serveur.lutix.org
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:35:59 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: Oui, je me suis notamment aidé du site formation-debian pour en comprendre les rouages, mais pas de résultats pour l'instant... Là je ne pige pas, le serveur X affiche toujours un écran noir mais aucune erreur, comme s'il fonctionnait normalement... Essaies d'installer un gestionnaire de fenêtre simple, par exemple icewm, par aptitude install icewm Ensuite, essaies de lancer le serveur X avec, par exemple par startx /usr/bin/icewm (il faut donner le chemin complet du client X initial) Bonne année -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102110242.32011ceb.bas...@starynkevitch.net
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
Bonjour Basile, j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... En parallèle, j'ai tenté une install debian avec installation du serveur graphique au moment de l'install : pas plus de vie sur mon écran... mat On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:02:42AM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 10:35:59 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: Oui, je me suis notamment aidé du site formation-debian pour en comprendre les rouages, mais pas de résultats pour l'instant... Là je ne pige pas, le serveur X affiche toujours un écran noir mais aucune erreur, comme s'il fonctionnait normalement... Essaies d'installer un gestionnaire de fenêtre simple, par exemple icewm, par aptitude install icewm Ensuite, essaies de lancer le serveur X avec, par exemple par startx /usr/bin/icewm (il faut donner le chemin complet du client X initial) Bonne année -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- TISSET Mathieu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102104635.gc11...@serveur.lutix.org
Re: xen + debian lenny + sauvegarde VM
Le 01/01/2011 15:01, Jean Baptiste FAVRE a écrit : Le 01/01/2011 14:32, Thierry B a écrit : Le 01/01/2011 13:40, Jean Baptiste FAVRE a écrit : Tout dépend de ce que tu utilises. Mais dans le cas d'un LVM, un snapshot VM arrêté suivi d'un gros dd est amplement suffisant :-) Tu obtiens une image disque que tu peut restaurer sur ton nouveau LV. Ou alors tu joues avec des fichiers images et tu peux même utiliser le Copy-On-Write (QCOW). Du coup ton image de base ne change jamais et chacun de tes domU n'utilise en espace disque que le delta avec l'image de base. Ok donc ton domU vu depuis le dom0 est soit - un LV : sauvegarde avec dd par exemple - une image de base et là tu peux utiliser la Copy On Write (je sais pas trop encore ce que c'est lol) Pourquoi l'image ne changerait pas? Si tu installes des nouveaux paquets dans ton domU par exemple, l'image va grossir ou bien l'espace utilisé par le LV depuis dom0 va augmenter aussi non? Il faut considérer l'image de base comme le plus petit dénominateur commun à tous tes domU (en gros, une install système de base debian). Le Copy-On-Write est aux fichiers image ce que le snapshot est à LVM: le snapshot initial prend très peu de place. Il va dériver au fil du temps puisque chaque modif dans le LV d'origine provoque la modif inverse dans le snapshot. Dans le cas de images, si l'image en lecture seule est le système de base, l'image en écriture contiendra toutes les modifications de conf et les paquets supplémentaires que tu auras installé: exemple d'un serveur Web, le serveur HTTP n'est pas présent dans l'image de base, mais il est ajouté dans l'image spécifique au domU. Reste le problème des data: de mon point de vue, il faut séparer les partitions data du système. Donc par exemple un LV data dédié. Du coup, on fait les backups depuis le domU. Ouais, j'ai essayé de séparer le data du système mais en créeant le LV data coté dom0 : par exemple, un LV pour stocker le mail, un autre pour le web et ensuite ces LV sont mappés vers des partitions virtuelle xdva1,2... Si les backups sont justement sur le domU, j'ai du mal à voir comment en cas de crash de la VM, tu peux récupérer ces backups vu qu'ils sont dans le domU? Euh... Le fait que tu sois en environnement virtualisé ou non ne change rien au besoin de gestion des backups. Que tu fasse les backups depuis le dom0, depuis un domU dédié ou dans chaque domU ne change rien au problème: il faut les séparer des data d'origine. Chez moi, j'ai un domU dédié aux backup qui dispose d'un accès NFS sur un NAS. Quand j'ajoute une machine (domU ou non) J'ai juste besoin d'ajouter le nom de la machine à la liste des backups à faire. Ensuite, tous mes serveurs et domU sont organisés de la même façon: installation en PXE avec preseed + configuration par Puppet. Tout est dans /data. Du coup, pas de questions existentielles à se poser pour savoir quoi backuper: /etc (au cas où, même si en fait je n'en ai pas besoin grâce à Puppet) /data /home /usr/local (pour les scripts que j'ajoute. Là encore, en fait pas besoin car déployé par Puppet) Les backups sont faits avec rdiff-backups et stockés sur le NAS. Et voilà :-) Euh pas compris cette histoire de /data. /data est monté à partir d'une partition qui se trouve où? sur ton dom0, sur chaque domU? En fait peu importe: soit tu fais un LV particulier dans le dom0 que tu exporte au niveau du domU (le plus propre selon moi), soit tu fais un LV ou une partition à l'intérieur du domU. Par exemple pour le mail, j'ai un LV Mail crée depuis le dom0 et depuis le domU dédié, ce LV est vu comme une partition virtuelle. Donc tu utilises mon premier exemple Donc ces datas là, pour le moment, je les sauvegarde depuis le dom0 dans le dom0. Si je voulais sauvegarder ces datas dans un domU, faudrait que je linke ce LV là (qui a été crée coté dom0), dans le domU à partir duquel je souhaite faire la sauvegarder de ces datas. Mais du coup, si je fais ma sauvegarde depuis le domU, la sauvegarde sera stockée dans le domU. Rien ne t'empêche de faire un snapshot depuis ton domU s'il est installé en LVM. En revanche, il faut toujours sortir les data du domU, d'où l'intérêt d'avoir une machine (virtuelle ou non) qui soit dédiée à cela. Tu ne peux pas linker 1 LV sur 2 domU (sauf avoir un FS cluster, mais de toute façon je ne pense pas que Xen te l'autorise). En revanche, rien ne t'empêche de faire un rsync depuis un autre domU (man rdiff-backup :) ) Si tu as un peu de temps à l'occcasion, tu pourrais me donner un exemple concret et simple (création d'un LV toto depuis tel domX...) pq j'ai toujours du mal à voir comment ta conf marche lol. Ma conf n'a rien de sorcier: je fais en virtualisé ce que je faisais déjà en physique: un serveur se charge de backuper tous les autres et stocke les backup sur un NAS. Au pire, pour optimiser, tu peux considérer que les domU sont jetables (surtout
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:46:35 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent En fait, le startx te permets juste de décomposer un peu le problème. As tu compris que Xorg (ou X11) est un serveur? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System Il existe aussi un gestionnaire de session comme gdm http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Display_Manager mais startx lance le serveur avec un client quelconque, celui que tu spécifies. Le lancer avec icewm (par exemple) permet de séparer les problèmes liés au serveur (Xorg) de ceux liés au client (gdm) As tu fais des recherches sur le Web? linux eeebox 1501 donne pleins de résultats. Enfin, as tu essayé d'installer une Debian testing, voire une Unstable, ou bien d'essayer de booter une Ubuntu récente? -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102115854.f947e648.bas...@starynkevitch.net
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:58:54AM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:46:35 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent Pas d'erreur ou de choses qui paraissent anormales à mes yeux (de néophytes par contre ^^); j'ai mis mon Xorg.0.log en PJ. En fait, le startx te permets juste de décomposer un peu le problème. As tu compris que Xorg (ou X11) est un serveur? http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System Oui, j'avais pigé le principe en consultant les docs sur internet (wikipedia et autres sources) Il existe aussi un gestionnaire de session comme gdm http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Display_Manager mais startx lance le serveur avec un client quelconque, celui que tu spécifies. Le lancer avec icewm (par exemple) permet de séparer les problèmes liés au serveur (Xorg) de ceux liés au client (gdm) As tu fais des recherches sur le Web? linux eeebox 1501 donne pleins de résultats. Oui, j'ai vu ttes ces pages et étrangement, personne ne semble avoir mon problème... Enfin, as tu essayé d'installer une Debian testing, voire une Unstable, ou bien d'essayer de booter une Ubuntu récente? Je suis entrain de tester l'install de la dernière Ubuntu -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- TISSET Mathieu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102110934.gd11...@serveur.lutix.org
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:09:34 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:58:54AM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:46:35 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent Pas d'erreur ou de choses qui paraissent anormales à mes yeux (de néophytes par contre ^^); j'ai mis mon Xorg.0.log en PJ. C'est sûr que tu l'as bien joint. Je ne le vois pas! Enfin, as tu essayé d'installer une Debian testing, voire une Unstable, ou bien d'essayer de booter une Ubuntu récente? Je suis entrain de tester l'install de la dernière Ubuntu Tu pourrais peut-être avoir un problème de réglage du BIOS. Là, je ne peux pas t'aider! Librement -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102131008.81709cac.bas...@starynkevitch.net
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
Oups, le grand classique... le voilà joint On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 01:10:08PM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:09:34 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:58:54AM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:46:35 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent Pas d'erreur ou de choses qui paraissent anormales à mes yeux (de néophytes par contre ^^); j'ai mis mon Xorg.0.log en PJ. C'est sûr que tu l'as bien joint. Je ne le vois pas! Enfin, as tu essayé d'installer une Debian testing, voire une Unstable, ou bien d'essayer de booter une Ubuntu récente? Je suis entrain de tester l'install de la dernière Ubuntu Tu pourrais peut-être avoir un problème de réglage du BIOS. Là, je ne peux pas t'aider! Librement -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102131008.81709cac.bas...@starynkevitch.net -- TISSET Mathieu X.Org X Server 1.4.2 Release Date: 11 June 2008 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10.lenny3) Current Operating System: Linux boxie 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 01:53:57 UTC 2010 i686 Build Date: 25 September 2010 12:05:44PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Sun Jan 2 11:43:15 2011 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf (==) ServerLayout X.org Configured (**) |--Screen Screen0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor Monitor0 (**) | |--Device Card0 (**) |--Input Device Mouse0 (**) |--Input Device Keyboard0 (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. Entry deleted from font path. (==) Including the default font path /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType. (**) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType, /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled, /usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1, /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi, /usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi, /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType (**) RgbPath set to /etc/X11/rgb (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket) (II) Loader magic: 0x81e3800 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.3 X.Org Video Driver: 2.0 X.Org XInput driver : 2.0 X.Org Server Extension : 0.3 X.Org Font Renderer : 0.5 (II) Loader running on linux (II) LoadModule: pcidata (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libpcidata.so (II) Module pcidata: vendor=X.Org Foundation compiled for 1.4.2, module version = 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (--) using VT number 7 (II) PCI: PCI scan (all values are in hex) (II) PCI: 00:00:0: chip 10de,0a82 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 06,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:00:1: chip 10de,0a88 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:03:0: chip 10de,0aad card 1043,83e9 rev b3 class 06,01,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:03:1: chip 10de,0aa4 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:03:2: chip 10de,0aa2 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 0c,05,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:03:3: chip 10de,0a89 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 05,00,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI: 00:03:5: chip 10de,0aa3 card 1043,83e9 rev b1 class 0b,40,00 hdr 80 (II) PCI:
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
dans le même temps, j'ai installé une Ubuntu 10.10, l'affichage fonctionne... Je pars en comparaison... On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 01:10:08PM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 12:09:34 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:58:54AM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:46:35 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: j'ai tenté une install de icewm, qui se déroule sans problème. Par contre, le 'startx /usr/bin/icewm' me conduit toujours à mon satané écran noir... Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent Pas d'erreur ou de choses qui paraissent anormales à mes yeux (de néophytes par contre ^^); j'ai mis mon Xorg.0.log en PJ. C'est sûr que tu l'as bien joint. Je ne le vois pas! Enfin, as tu essayé d'installer une Debian testing, voire une Unstable, ou bien d'essayer de booter une Ubuntu récente? Je suis entrain de tester l'install de la dernière Ubuntu Tu pourrais peut-être avoir un problème de réglage du BIOS. Là, je ne peux pas t'aider! Librement -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102131008.81709cac.bas...@starynkevitch.net -- TISSET Mathieu -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102123424.gb26...@serveur.lutix.org
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 1501, Debian et xorg : écran noir
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 13:33:28 +0100 TISSET Mathieu mathieu.tis...@lutix.org wrote: Oups, le grand classique... le voilà joint On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 01:10:08PM +0100, Basile Starynkevitch wrote: Regardes alors dans le fichier /var/log/Xorg*.log le plus récent Pas d'erreur ou de choses qui paraissent anormales à mes yeux (de néophytes par contre ^^); j'ai mis mon Xorg.0.log en PJ. Ton Xorg.0.log contient notamment (--) PCI:*(2:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x087d) rev 177, Mem @ 0xfa00/24, 0xe000/28, 0xf600/25, I/O @ 0xdc00/7, BIOS @ 0xfbde/17 Il pourrait être utile d'installer un pilote propriétaire Nvidia, et une version récente du noyau et du serveur Xorg. Peut-être que Debian Unstable pourrait marcher... mais je n'en sais rien. Google sur nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x087d) rev 177 semble donner des résultats pertinents, que je n'ai pas la patience d'explorer. Librement -- Basile STARYNKEVITCH http://starynkevitch.net/Basile/ email: basileatstarynkevitchdotnet mobile: +33 6 8501 2359 8, rue de la Faiencerie, 92340 Bourg La Reine, France *** opinions {are only mine, sont seulement les miennes} *** -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102134935.c5a741c8.bas...@starynkevitch.net
Re: Redimensionner la partition /
Je prends le temps de te répondre rapidement. J'ai réglé le souci en retaillant la partition /dev/sda2 avec un LiveCD de Debian. C'est là que ça coinçait : je ne comprenait qu'il s'agissait d'une partition contenant les autres partitions et surtout que je pouvais la retailler après avoir libéré de l'espace. Dans l'idéal, j'aurais bien aimé installé tout ça sous LVM que je ne connaissais pas avant ton mail. Mais là très honnêtement, je suis un peu court dans le temps pour tout reprendre. En tous cas, merci pour toutes ces infos. Daniel Caillibaud a dit dans un souffle : Le 01/01/11 à 13:52, Christophe Gallaire zam...@gmail.com a écrit : CG Faudrait en dire un peu plus... CG - que donne un fdisk -l ? CG CG Voilà le résultat : CG CG Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes CG 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders CG Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes CG Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes CG I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes CG Disk identifier: 0x0005a521 CG CG Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System CG /dev/sda1 * 1 851 6835626 83 Linux CG /dev/sda2 852 60801 4815483755 Extended CG /dev/sda5 16452 202763072 82 Linux swap / Solaris CG /dev/sda6 20304 39426 153605466 83 Linux CG CG - comment essaie-tu d'allouer cet espace ? (parce que sans LVM, à part supprimer et CG recréer la partition, je vois pas...) CG CG J'essaie de prendre l'espace libre non alloué sur /dev/sda2. J'essaie de faire CG cette manipulation avec GParted. sda2 n'est pas une partition primaire, c'est juste une partition qui emballe les partitions étendues (les autres, regarde les frontières, elle démarre juste après sda1 mais fini bien après sda6). Donc, tu peux créer une nouvelle partition étendue de 852 à 2000 (par ex), mais elle va probablement retrouver sda7. C'est pas très grave que les n° soient pas dans l'ordre du disque, m'enfin si on évite c'est pas plus mal (j'ai toujours la crainte d'outils qui renuméroteraient tout seul, mais c'est surtout le risque humain d'emmêlage de pinceaux). Avec fdisk tu peux les renuméroter dans l'ordre (dans le menu expert). CG Comment je sais si LVM est supporté par mon noyau ? Et puis, je n'ai pas CG formaté mon disque en LVM. Si ce n'est pas le cas, je ne peux rien faire. Si ? Oui, pour créer le pv faut virer les données. Ensuite, je sais pas si tu peux stocker tout ton / et ton home ailleurs. Si oui tu peux mettre tout le disque en LVM, mais sinon, tu peux aussi laisser en l'état et - virer le swap (30Go c'est beaucoup non ?) - essayer de recréer une partition primaire entre 852 et 20303 (avec ton gparted, essaie de réduire sda2 au max vers la fin puis de créer une primaire avant, sinon essaie avec avec fdisk, cfdisk ou sfdisk, y'a p'tet moyen, ça te ferait une vraie sda2 primaire, puis une sda3 extended pour emballer ton sda6 actuelle) - mettre cette partition en LVM et y créer un pv (physical volume) puis un vg (volume group) et tes lv (logical volume, qui jouent le rôle de tes partitions actuelle). Si tu arrive pas à la créer en primaire, mets là en étendue (ça revient à agrandir ton sda5 en lui donnant toute la place dispo), puis lvm pareil... Si tu peux stocker temporairement sda1 dans sda6, réduit sda1 à 50~100Mo pour un /boot et prend le reste dans ta partition LVM. Tu peux aussi garder ton sda1 pour y mettre un linux de secours, ça peut toujours servir si l'autre démarre plus. Après, tu met ton / et ton swap dans le lvm, et tu garde ton home comme il est là (ou tu le déplaces dans le lvm, au choix, mais maintenant qu'il est là...). Autre solution peut-être plus intéressante pour toi, c'est de créer cette partition LVM plutôt entre 1500 et 20303, créer tes lv, copier temporairement sda1 dedans et agrandir sda1 jusqu'à 1499, ça te garde ton / sur une partition primaire, et le lvm pour le reste. Si tu veux ensuite ajouter le sda6 au lvm, faut y créer un 2e pv que tu ajoute dans le vg existant (comme si c'était un 2e disque). Je sais pas trop ce que ça donne en perfs (d'avoir 2 pv sur le même disque), mais je pense pas que ça gêne bcp... Sinon, y'a d'autres solutions, comme mettre /var ou /usr à part, mais je trouve que ça complique sans avoir d'intérêt pour du desktop. Bon courage (et évidemment, tout ça depuis un live CD) -- Daniel L'utopie ne signifie pas l'irréalisable, mais l'irréalisé. T Monod -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110101132956.38636...@quad.lairdutemps.org -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à
Problème de clavier
Bonjour, Les leds de mon clavier, Cap Lock (verrouillage majuscule) et verrouillage du défilement, s'allument et effectivement les deux fonctionnalités sont activées. Je désactive et l'activation se fait d'elle-même. Dans Clavier, je n'ai qu'un seul agencement : France (Obsolète) Autre alors que dans mon xorg.conf : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbVariant latin9 EndSection Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il s'est passé... le problème est récent, de ce matin. Il faut attendre plusieurs minutes pour que l'activation/désactivation soit fonctionnelle. @+ Christophe -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/blook --- Linux On The Root : http://ubunteros.tuxfamily.org/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 34AA23BB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problème de clavier
Bonjour, Les leds de mon clavier, Cap Lock (verrouillage majuscule) et verrouillage du défilement, s'allument et effectivement les deux fonctionnalités sont activées. Je désactive et l'activation se fait d'elle-même. Dans Clavier, je n'ai qu'un seul agencement : France (Obsolète) Autre alors que dans mon xorg.conf : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbVariant latin9 EndSection Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il s'est passé... le problème est récent, de ce matin. Il faut attendre plusieurs minutes pour que l'activation/désactivation soit fonctionnelle. @+ Christophe bonjour, alors le gallairien , toujours en arrière en train de ramer ? la solution se trouve dans le fichier de conf du clavier ... que donne dpkg -l |grep kbd ii kbd 1.15.2-2 Linux console font and keytable utilities ii libgnomekbd-common 2.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - common files ii libgnomekbd42.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - shared library en cas de souchis reprendre la conf du clavier en utilisant : dpkg-reconfigure kbd slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/598661962.4312331293987295176.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net
Re: Problème de clavier
Le 02/01/11, bernard.schoenac...@free.frbernard.schoenac...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour, Les leds de mon clavier, Cap Lock (verrouillage majuscule) et verrouillage du défilement, s'allument et effectivement les deux fonctionnalités sont activées. Je désactive et l'activation se fait d'elle-même. Dans Clavier, je n'ai qu'un seul agencement : France (Obsolète) Autre alors que dans mon xorg.conf : Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout fr Option XkbVariant latin9 EndSection Je ne vois pas bien ce qu'il s'est passé... le problème est récent, de ce matin. Il faut attendre plusieurs minutes pour que l'activation/désactivation soit fonctionnelle. @+ Christophe bonjour, alors le gallairien , toujours en arrière en train de ramer ? Clairement ! la solution se trouve dans le fichier de conf du clavier ... que donne dpkg -l |grep kbd ii kbd 1.15.2-2 Linux console font and keytable utilities ii libgnomekbd-common 2.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - common files ii libgnomekbd42.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - shared library dpkg -l | grep kbd ii kbd 1.15.2-2 Linux console font and keytable utilities ii libgnomekbd-common 2.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - common files rc libgnomekbd2 2.22.0-1 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - shared library ii libgnomekbd4 2.30.2-2 GNOME library to manage keyboard configuration - shared library rc libgnomekbdui2 2.22.0-1 User interface library for libgnomekbd - shared library ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd1:1.4.0-2 X.Org X server -- keyboard input driver en cas de souchis reprendre la conf du clavier en utilisant : dpkg-reconfigure kbd Ça ne change rien du tout ! slt bernard Christophe -- Carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org Linux On The Root : http://ubunteros.tuxfamily.org/ Mutt, le Mail Agent à l'extrême configurabilité ! 100% libre ! 100% Linux ! Les clèbs (mutts) n'ont pas de punaises (bugs) mais des puces ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=j77usmz7xjq1mx9=y1wme6ysmlslxtl7fp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Problème de clavier
bonjour, solution radicale tout mettre à la benne et recommencer ... mode opération : apt-get install kbd-compat et les dépendances bref faut quand meme pas déclarer un clavier apple USB ensuite, quitter la session et gdm et tout en TTY rendre compte ... marre, y a pas un ssh pour que je puisse le faire à distance ? slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1607322065.4325181293990933430.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net
Re: Nettoyage du spam dans les listes de diffusion Debian francophones
Le Sunday 02 January 2011 02:45:27 Alain Vaugham, vous avez écrit : Le Saturday 01 January 2011 23:33:47 Serge Cavailles, vous avez écrit : Le Saturday 01 January 2011 22:42:23 Alain Vaugham, vous avez écrit : Sous KMail, il n'y a pas de lien en bas pour signaler le spam. --- C'est pénalisant... Ce n'est pas propre à Kmail. Je me corrige : Si, il y a un lien depuis le 14/02/2010 en bas des posts : Archive: http://lists.debian.org/. En suivant ce lien on trouve le bouton report as spam. --- C'est rapide et simple pour moi. Arff... Je l'avais raté. Merci, ça va me faire gagner du temps. ;) Cordialement, -- Serge -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101022045.15920.debse...@free.fr
Re: Demande d'aide : Eeebox 15 01, Debian et xorg : écran noir
bonjour, voici en plus digeste ton fichier log : for i in WW '(--)' EE ;do grep $i Xorg.0.log ;done (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist. (WW) VESA(0): Unable to estimate virtual size Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(2:0:0) nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x087d) rev 177, Mem @ 0xfa00/24, 0xe000/28, 0xf600/25, I/O @ 0xdc00/7, BIOS @ 0xfbde/17 (--) Chipset vesa found (==) VESA(0): Depth 16, (--) framebuffer bpp 16 (--) VESA(0): Virtual size is 1600x1200 (pitch 1600) (--) Mouse0: PnP-detected protocol: ExplorerPS/2 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER résultat : pas de polices de caractères cyrillique essaye de forcer le mode vesa et change de valeur sur le xorg.conf : Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Carte vidéo générique Monitor DefaultDepth16 SubSection Display Depth 16 Modes 800x600 720x400 640x480 EndSubSection sur eeepc c'est Section Monitor IdentifierGeneric Screen VendornameGeneric LCD Display ModelnameLCD Panel 800x600 Horizsync31.5-37.9 Vertrefresh56.0 - 65.0 modeline 640x...@60 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync modeline 800x...@56 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync modeline 800x...@60 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync Gamma1.0 EndSection Section Screen IdentifierDefault Screen DeviceIntel Corporation Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller Monitorà‰cran générique Defaultdepth16 SubSection Display Depth16 Virtual800600 Modes800x...@60800x...@56640x...@60 EndSubSection EndSection autrement, prière de régénerer un fichier de conf : dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg source : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=191386 Dernière modification par wiscot (Le 15/02/2008, à 18:27 ) slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/558629865.4368771294002393253.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net
Re: Problème de clavier
Rien n'y fait ! bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a dit dans un souffle : bonjour, solution radicale tout mettre à la benne et recommencer ... mode opération : apt-get install kbd-compat et les dépendances J'ai tout viré et réinstallé. bref faut quand meme pas déclarer un clavier apple USB ensuite, quitter la session et gdm et tout en TTY rendre compte ... Je dois remettre certains paquets comme nautilus, brasero et acpi, etc. marre, y a pas un ssh pour que je puisse le faire à distance ? Jamais installé ça... Ce qui est vraiment étrange, c'est que le clignotement et le blocage s'arrêtent au bout de 5 bonnes minutes. Et dans le terminal user, j'ai un problème d'affichage : les lettres se superposent. Pas en admin. @+ Christophe -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/blook --- Linux On The Root : http://ubunteros.tuxfamily.org/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 34AA23BB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Problème de clavier
Bon... je suis confus... c'est de ma faute, j'ai installé keybled et manifestement c'est ce qui bloquait la majusculation ! Mille excuses Christophe bernard.schoenac...@free.fr a dit dans un souffle : bonjour, solution radicale tout mettre à la benne et recommencer ... mode opération : apt-get install kbd-compat et les dépendances bref faut quand meme pas déclarer un clavier apple USB ensuite, quitter la session et gdm et tout en TTY rendre compte ... marre, y a pas un ssh pour que je puisse le faire à distance ? slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1607322065.4325181293990933430.javamail.r...@zimbra28-e5.priv.proxad.net -- Christophe Gallaire Attention ! Suppression des mails entrants dont la taille est supérieure à 2Mo ! N'envoyez, s'il vous plaît, que des pièces jointes en formats ouverts. --- Nouveau carnet de route : http://www.road2mayotte.org/blook --- Linux On The Root : http://ubunteros.tuxfamily.org/ --- Clé de chiffrement : 34AA23BB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Ayuda con configuracion de servidor x
El Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:05:38 -0500, Edgar Vargas escribió: Hola amiga, eso mismo hago, siempre actualizo, hasta hace un tiempo trate de generar ese xorg.conf, y fue igual El 01/01/11, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 01 Jan 2011 02:34:37 -0500, Edgar Vargas escribió: Hola lista, he actualizado siempre debian tetsing y siempre viene los cuelgues inesperados, ahora hice una configuracion manual, he generado un xorg.conf, aqui esta, que debo modificar, mi vga es intel: (...) Están sacando muchas actualizaciones para el driver de intel. Lo primero que volvería a intentar es a iniciar el sistema sin xorg.conf (renombra el archivo pero no lo borres), y dejar que el servidor Xorg intente configurar automáticamente todo. Hola amiga, antes que genere ese xorg.conf en la ruta: ed...@debian:/etc/X11$ ls app-defaults twmxorg.conf Xsession Xwrapper.config default-display-manager X Xreset Xsession.d fontsxinit Xreset.dXsession.options rgb.txt xkbXresources XvMCConfig no estaba el xorg.conf, pero como ya me incomodaba los cuelgues, entonces leyendo mas por ahi generé el archivo, un debianista por aqui en la lista me dijo que cambiara el intel por vesa, lo cambie y la pantalla negra nunca inicio interfaz grafica, Sí, creo que fui yo misma la que te lo dijo... es que no hay muchas más opciones: o intel o vesa y si no te funciona con uno, siempre te queda el otro :-( asi q en modo recovery le puse intel como antes y ahi recien pude tener interfaz grafica nuevamente :(, amiga camaleon si renombro ese archivo quedaría como antes sin xorg.conf, y solo me quedaría esperar mas actualizaciones, verdad?¿, pero tengo esto: (...) tengo lo necesario, verdad?¿, pero se sigue colgando pasado un tiempo :( Pues creo que sí, al menos esa es la última versión disponible en squeeze, pero vamos, prueba a iniciar sin archivo sin xorg.conf a ver qué hace, si se vuelve a quedar colgado siempre puedes volver a cambiarlo. Además, si te vuelve a pasar sería interesante que generaras un informe de fallo en el BTS de Debian. A estas alturas (Squeeze va a salir dentro de poco) no deberías tener esos problemas. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.10.46...@gmail.com
Re: kfreebsd + zfs pools
El día 31 de diciembre de 2010 11:54, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 31 de diciembre de 2010 13:13, mmejiav mauricio.meji...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos La pregunta es sencilla y puntual Alguno de vosotros a probado o tenido alguna clase de experiencia con kfreebsd + zfs pools? Motivo de consulta? veo que Debian soporta zfs, pero no quiero ir a arriesgar mis datos con zfs y que los mismos se pierdan (seria una lastima que la musica fotos y videos desaparecieran...) Supogo que harás y tendrás respaldos ? Hola El zfs es para mi servidor de respaldos... mmm y lo peor es que no e recibido mas comentarios al respecto... enton cero pruebas? lastima -- J Mauricio Mejia Vargas Linux User # 381752 http://multivac.co -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikafnyvhqgrso1-gre=2gcdvrey7xyzdjx�...@mail.gmail.com
Re: kfreebsd + zfs pools
El día 2 de enero de 2011 20:18, mmejiav mauricio.meji...@gmail.com escribió: El día 31 de diciembre de 2010 11:54, Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com escribió: El día 31 de diciembre de 2010 13:13, mmejiav mauricio.meji...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos La pregunta es sencilla y puntual Alguno de vosotros a probado o tenido alguna clase de experiencia con kfreebsd + zfs pools? Motivo de consulta? veo que Debian soporta zfs, pero no quiero ir a arriesgar mis datos con zfs y que los mismos se pierdan (seria una lastima que la musica fotos y videos desaparecieran...) Supogo que harás y tendrás respaldos ? Hola El zfs es para mi servidor de respaldos... mmm y lo peor es que no e recibido mas comentarios al respecto... enton cero pruebas? No sé que tal andará zfs en debian o linux en general pero yo optaría, sobre si es para respaldos, algo archi probado como ext3 o por último ext4. Saludos. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinvk5jmmeqbivj6rgwjxfmonzdn2vmleuq=x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: reconhecer teclado
Rodolfo, É um Semp Toshiba IS 1253, Processador Intel Pentium Dual Core T2060, controlador de vídeo Intel GMA950, teclado com 85 teclas (cedilha e AltGr). Abs. e obrigado, Rogério Em 1 de janeiro de 2011 18:22, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu: Rogerio, me passa o modelo, marca do seu notebook por favor.vou pesquisar sobre o assunto Em 1 de janeiro de 2011 15:12, Rogerio R. Silva rogerioro...@gmail.comescreveu:
Re: reconhecer teclado
Cara, não encontrei nada referente a esse problema no googlesério mesmo.bom, vou continuar procurando...enquanto isso queria pedir que você coloque seu xorg.conf exatamente como está abaixo: (não esqueça de fazer backup do seu xorg.conf atual). Usei algumas informações do seu próprio xorg só faça backup do seu xorg atual, apague todo o conteúdo que tem nele e cole o que eu postei aqui e veja se resolve alguma coisa. flw.. E uma perguntaele veio com o Vista certo ? Voce verificou se no windows vista seu teclado funcionava (pergunto isso porque já trabalhei em uma loja de informatica e já vi notebooks Toshiba virem com problemas de fábrica, assim como Acer) ? E como você instalou o Debian ai ? por cd ? Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller Driver vesa BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS HorizSync 28-96 VertRefresh 43-60 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel abnt2 Option XkbLayout br Option XkbVariant abnt2 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Modes1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection Em 2 de janeiro de 2011 14:59, Rogerio R. Silva rogerioro...@gmail.comescreveu: Rodolfo, É um Semp Toshiba IS 1253, Processador Intel Pentium Dual Core T2060, controlador de vídeo Intel GMA950, teclado com 85 teclas (cedilha e AltGr). Abs. e obrigado, Rogério Em 1 de janeiro de 2011 18:22, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu: Rogerio, me passa o modelo, marca do seu notebook por favor.vou pesquisar sobre o assunto Em 1 de janeiro de 2011 15:12, Rogerio R. Silva rogerioro...@gmail.comescreveu:
Re: reconhecer teclado
Rodolfo, Obrigado pela ajuda em pleno domingo! Dia 02 de janeiro de 2011! Verificarei suas sugestões. O note veio originalmente com XP, mas já uso-o há três anos e ocasionalmente tenho problemas com o teclado (essa é a segunda vez), após atualizações do x org. Abs. - rogério Em 2 de janeiro de 2011 21:21, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu: Cara, não encontrei nada referente a esse problema no googlesério mesmo.bom, vou continuar procurando...enquanto isso queria pedir que você coloque seu xorg.conf exatamente como está abaixo: (não esqueça de fazer backup do seu xorg.conf atual). Usei algumas informações do seu próprio xorg só faça backup do seu xorg atual, apague todo o conteúdo que tem nele e cole o que eu postei aqui e veja se resolve alguma coisa. flw.. E uma perguntaele veio com o Vista certo ? Voce verificou se no windows vista seu teclado funcionava (pergunto isso porque já trabalhei em uma loja de informatica e já vi notebooks Toshiba virem com problemas de fábrica, assim como Acer) ? E como você instalou o Debian ai ? por cd ? Section Device Identifier Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller Driver vesa BusID PCI:0:2:0 EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Generic Monitor Option DPMS HorizSync 28-96 VertRefresh 43-60 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver keyboard Option CoreKeyboard Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel abnt2 Option XkbLayout br Option XkbVariant abnt2 EndSection Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller Monitor Generic Monitor DefaultDepth 24 SubSection Display Modes1024x768 EndSubSection EndSection
Re: Serious filesystem bug?
Slobodan Aleksić schreef: Hello everyone, I don't know how to catogorize this: I am using Debian/Squeeze on a laptop with an encrypted ext3 filesystem. (Encryption done through the debian-installer). I have a h2-database running. It got corrupted many times. I had to touch /forcefsck and after a reboot and the forced filesystemcheck all was again okay. The same problem appeared with downloaded ISOs. I ran md5sum checks on the ISO and they were wrong. After forcing a fsck at boottime the md5sum of the ISOs were correct! Does anyone got similiar problems? Greetings! -- Slobodan a hardware problem? corrupted disk? s. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d203778.7000...@home.nl
Re: [OT] Re: microsoft.com - NetBSD
On Sb, 01 ian 11, 23:35:34, Brad Alexander wrote: Look, I am as much for free software as the rest, but I think the FSF tends to start brush fires to justify their own existence. I believe they have done some good work, but many things they do seem to be counterproductive to the cause. For instance, their latest attack, on Linus Torvalds, claiming that the Linux Kernel is Open Core, and that Linux Kernel Is Torvalds' 'Bait and Switch' (http://www.osnews.com/story/24009/FSFLA_Linux_Kernel_Is_Torvalds_Bait_and_Switch_ and http://lwn.net/Articles/413927/) Why? Because you can install binary blobs on your Linux system if you _choose to_? That makes the kernel Open Core? And Linus is intentionally drawing people in to software heresy? There might come a day when most of the systems in the world will be running free software, but we are still not there. Actually, at the moment it's (almost?) impossible to run a completely free system, so there is still work to do. Even more, it's important to not let people think it's just the firmware, because even the firmware does have source code somewhere[1]. Unfortunately the method used (attacking other members of the free software community) is IMVHO not the best... [1] except maybe some hex tables used to initialize the hardware, but even then, those hex tables should be thoroughly documented Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Saturday 01 January 2011 05:42:28 pm Michael Fothergill wrote: OK, Here is what I did here: The google search suggestion was to do this: gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf What is peculiar here is that man gs and info gs find the NOPAUSE QUIET and BATCH commands or options or whatever they are called but the DEVICE=pdfwrite isn't obvious in there at all... Neither is PDFSETTINGS. Nevertheless someone knew this... I don't use this stuff often enough to remember the options, each project I do I have a learning curve. The package 'ghostscript-doc' is a good source for the options. snippy -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101020044.49094.gomadtr...@gci.net
Re: Squeeze. apt-get update failed to fetch .../binary-i386/Packages.gz
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Mark Goldshtein wrote: Is that temporary problem or there is need to change something in source.list? Before this, all updates went smooth. Those kinds of errors tend to be temporary. The http.us.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org names are mapped to multiple addresses so that you will round-robin among them. If one address is down then if you try again you will likely get a different server. Thanks Bob! Does the 'http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' and 'http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' are contain the same packages for update? 'Ftp' is accessed normally, so should I continue with an update? Or, it is necessary to wait until # apt-get update will return no errors at all? Maybe this is just a bug? In addition, as I am monitoring 'Debian User Mailing list', nobody else has reported that problem in Squeeze. -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=7x0_ogqgb5drqd468z-xk1rbc0dxzq-dx6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Packages - what's the best way?
On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: Rob Hurle wrote: Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. I use aptitude at the command line. aptitude and apt-get seem to leap-frog round each other as to which is best. Mostly it is largely a matter of personal choice. Yes. For Opera on Debian see the instructions on the wiki which go into detail what you should do. http://wiki.debian.org/Opera I use aptitude for this as well. Opera supplies a debian repository which can be added to your sources list. Then Opera gets updated by aptitude too. The only snag to this approach is that it doesn't automatically update its key. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021005.38404.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: can grub on one disk boot OS on another disk?
On Sunday 21 November 2010 21:04:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 4ce98645.6060...@optonline.net, Doug wrote: This may be my stupidity, but shouldn't a scsi disk be referred to as sdx? (Where x is a number, like 0 or 1.) Not in GRUB. Not anywhere on my system. I have sda, sdb etc. The partitions have numbers: sda1, sdb1 etc. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021027.48406.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Packages - what's the best way?
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:05:38AM +, Lisi wrote: On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: Rob Hurle wrote: Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. I use aptitude at the command line. aptitude and apt-get seem to leap-frog round each other as to which is best. Mostly it is largely a matter of personal choice. Yes. For Opera on Debian see the instructions on the wiki which go into detail what you should do. http://wiki.debian.org/Opera I use aptitude for this as well. Opera supplies a debian repository which can be added to your sources list. Then Opera gets updated by aptitude too. The only snag to this approach is that it doesn't automatically update its key. Lisi Please note: if I remember correctly, the upgrade procedure from Debian 5.x to Debian 6.0 will _require_ the use of apt-get for the actual upgrade itself. When you come to upgrade a machine, PLEASE read the release notes carefully and follow the commands listed. Doing anything otherwise may result in your machine being difficult to set up / you may get into a situation where you cannot upgrade / downgrade. Oh, and did I say to please read and follow the upgrade instructions carefully? All best, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021005.38404.lisi.re...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102102914.ga3...@galactic.demon.co.uk
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
Michael Fothergill: Doug: Just in the last day or two, someone wrote to the list (probably this one) that there are a couple of repos you can get to from Debian that hold proprietary software, and probably Adobe Acrobat. I have the debian non free mulltimedia link set up in my apt sources file. I did apt-get update apt-get install acroread and successfully installed Acrobat 9 but when I tried it although it read the pdf file in fine the google search tip of using the file reduction option in the document menu option didn't seem to appear. You're confusing Adobe Reader with Adobe Acrobat. The latter, meant for manipulating pdfs (not just reading them), is only commercially available. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102115438.fd47573e.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: access point using 3945
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:22:40 -0800, briand wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:30:52 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: OTOH, it seems that iwl3945 driver does not allow the card to be set in master mode (AP), as you said: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers Additional documentation on this can be found here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd aargh. I think I finally figured out what's going on - the web pages were quite confusing. looks like I'm SOL, and that I do _have_ to use the iwl3945 driver for the device. I thought it had been superceded by an open-source driver which provided AP functionality. Let's see... Yes, the docs are quite confusing. As I understand, nl80211 is not a driver per se but an API for drivers to use of it. It seems it will replace wext extentions and that's all its role. If we continue reading, we get: All new mac80211 based drivers that implement AP functionality are supported with hostapd's nl80211 driver. Note the that implement AP functionality, because I think that's the key point here. So we if we go to the drivers table we can see that Intel drivers support cfg80211 but not all modes are available. I was wrong. don't buy this card if you want to turn it into an AP. All you folks that think closed-source drivers don't matter - this is why it does. I can't do this precisely because this goofy card uses a closed source binary firmware load. Yes, that's right. I'm afraid your hardware/firmware combo does not support AP mode :-( The why, I dunno. Note that Broadcom cards (b43) or Ralink (rt2800, some models) also need a closed or non-modificable firmware but still they provide AP capabilities :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.11.07...@gmail.com
Re: access point using 3945
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 10:17:21 -0800, briand wrote: On Sat, 1 Jan 2011 16:30:52 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Additional documentation on this can be found here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd Which tells me this: #change wlan0 to your wireless device interface=wlan0 driver=nl80211 ssid=test channel=1 If that config errors out with something like: hostapd $ sudo hostapd ./hostapd.conf Configuration file: ./hostapd.conf Line 2: invalid/unknown driver 'nl80211' 1 errors found in configuration file './hostapd.conf' that means that your distro is not shipping hostapd with nl80211 driver support... (...) No, I explain a bit more in the other post :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.11.09...@gmail.com
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 02:42:28 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: Here is what I did here: The google search suggestion was to do this: gs -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -dCompatibilityLevel=1.4 -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen -dNOPAUSE -dQUIET -dBATCH -sOutputFile=output.pdf input.pdf (...) The info and man write ups are a bit babbitesque/delphic for me. I will look at the ghostscript documentation package I installed and see if I can figure out what this set of commands are doing here a bit more clearly while being glad that they worked. When it comes to PDF size, it's all about resolution and images compression method. What does the above command is outputing a PDF with lower quality and a higher compression method for images and you get all that by using - dPDFSETTINGS=/screen which is a shorcut for a mode that automatically reduces the whole dpi of the document (maybe from 1200dpi to 300/600dpi) and sets images to 72dpi resulting in a reduced PDF file size. Other preset modes are -dPDFSETTINGS=/print and -dPDFSETTINGS=/press which provides higher quality PDF and so, a bigger file size. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.11.33...@gmail.com
Re: udev question
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:13:34 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 04:56:50PM +, Camaleón wrote: Those steps are about how to sync your music/photos, but I think the most important part is the ifuse package that allows the device to be mounted as a mass storage devices. If you already have it installed, plug the device and check if it is listed as external unit. When plugged in I get just the output shown in my original post which includes a 40 digit serial number so I tried ifuse /media/ipod -u The_40_digit_serial_number The device was not found. Then I dunno what can be failing... maybe you are facing some kind of bug? :-? ifuse: Fails to recognize connected iPod touch http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563011 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.11.49...@gmail.com
Re: Not able to update using apt
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 00:04:18 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: On 01/01/2011 09:09 PM, David Sastre wrote: Could not resolve 'ftp.sunet.se' I've only selected laptop and webserver with tasksel during installation. I'm able to ping ftp.sunet.se and the mirror is working on my other laptop. /etc/resolv.conf is updated correctly, I get an IP from my router. It does not help getting a new lease using dhclient. Any ideas? How does your /etc/apt/sources.list (or any files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) look like? I chose ftp.sunet.se as mirror during installation, but I get the same error message for security.debian.org Type host security.debian.org; cat /etc/resolv.conf It looks like a dns server error, you can try by setting up another ones. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.12.30...@gmail.com
File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
~ ... or ls not properly displaying them in some cases. ~ I got this compressed file that seems to be the metadata snapshot of a file system you get by running: ~ ls -lR ~ but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory ~ Why would that be? ~ Thanks lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktins-qfs4h+lazyfnjmnb9fxrgaqctympkvz0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Not able to update using apt
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:04:18AM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: On 01/01/2011 09:09 PM, David Sastre wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 08:14:08PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I just installed Debian Squeeze on a Eee PC. The installer downloaded all the packages during the install but when I want to install more packages at the prompt I only get: Could not resolve 'ftp.sunet.se' I'm able to ping ftp.sunet.se and the mirror is working on my other laptop. /etc/resolv.conf is updated correctly, I get an IP from my router. It does not help getting a new lease using dhclient. How does your /etc/apt/sources.list (or any files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) look like? deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ squeeze main Can you try: -another mirror -apt-get/aptitude update -apt-get/aptitude install some.package -- Huella de clave primaria: 0FDA C36F F110 54F4 D42B D0EB 617D 396C 448B 31EB signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:41:38 +, Albretch Mueller wrote: ~ ... or ls not properly displaying them in some cases. ~ I got this compressed file that seems to be the metadata snapshot of a file system you get by running: ~ ls -lR ~ but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory ~ Why would that be? I get the same: s...@stt008:~/Documentos/dsc-fotos/2010/sony$ ls -lR | tail -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 533809 ago 21 18:12 DSC02335.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 484485 ago 21 18:12 DSC02336.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 517789 ago 21 18:14 DSC02338.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 495196 ago 21 18:15 DSC02339.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 541253 ago 28 13:00 DSC02340.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 538118 ago 28 13:00 DSC02341.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 558677 ago 28 13:01 DSC02342.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 546987 ago 28 13:01 DSC02343.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 543089 ago 28 13:01 DSC02344.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 527500 sep 12 21:00 DSC02347.JPG If you need accuracy, better use --full-time parameter. s...@stt008:~/Documentos/dsc-fotos/2010/sony$ ls -l --full-time |tail -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 533809 2010-08-21 18:12:16.0 +0200 DSC02335.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 484485 2010-08-21 18:12:36.0 +0200 DSC02336.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 517789 2010-08-21 18:14:54.0 +0200 DSC02338.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 495196 2010-08-21 18:15:08.0 +0200 DSC02339.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 541253 2010-08-28 13:00:38.0 +0200 DSC02340.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 538118 2010-08-28 13:00:52.0 +0200 DSC02341.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 558677 2010-08-28 13:01:14.0 +0200 DSC02342.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 546987 2010-08-28 13:01:28.0 +0200 DSC02343.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 543089 2010-08-28 13:01:52.0 +0200 DSC02344.JPG -rwxr--r-- 1 sm01 sm01 527500 2010-09-12 21:00:20.0 +0200 DSC02347.JPG Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.13.00...@gmail.com
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote: ~ ... or ls not properly displaying them in some cases. ~ ^ I don’t even want to know what these are doing here… but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory The latter is simply a way to get more information in there – if there’s no year, it either means the current year (i. e. 2011) or the last 365 days (i. e. January 3rd, 2010 – now). I don’t know which of these, although I’d guess it is the former again to avoid ambiguities when dealing with broken file systems. Best regards, Claudius -- Put your trust in those who are worthy. http://chubig.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ifpstp$u3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
Albretch Mueller wrote: ~ ... or ls not properly displaying them in some cases. ~ I got this compressed file that seems to be the metadata snapshot of a file system you get by running: ~ ls -lR ~ but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory ~ Why would that be? Under the C or POSIX locale, timestamps which are near to now are shown with the time and without the year; those well removed show the year, but not the time. I'm not sure of exactly how far into the future or past the cutoff point is. This is generally useful to human readers but a pain for automated parsing. With GNU ls, you can pass --full-time or --time-style=various options (see the ls man page for details); alternatively stat can be useful. Other locales may vary. -- Chris Jackson Shadowcat Systems Ltd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d20774d.4000...@shadowcat.co.uk
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Sun 02 Jan 2011 at 02:42:28 +, Michael Fothergill wrote: So I tried the above command substituting my pdf file as input.pdf and creating a suitable name for output.pdf and then hit return in a sheepish ignorant kind of way and amazingly enough it worked. I got a pdf file that was much smaller in size but looked fine in evince. Using the same command my experience with a variety of pdf documents has been very mixed. One or two are reduced to 10% of the original sizes, most have no significant reduction and one is three times larger. The info and man write ups are a bit babbitesque/delphic for me. I will look at the ghostscript documentation package I installed and see if I can figure out what this set of commands are doing here a bit more clearly while being glad that they worked. http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost/doc/cvs/Ps2pdf.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102133630.gh32...@desktop
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Sun 02 Jan 2011 at 11:33:48 +, Camaleón wrote: Other preset modes are -dPDFSETTINGS=/print and -dPDFSETTINGS=/press which provides higher quality PDF and so, a bigger file size. -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer and -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress with Ghostscript 8.62. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102133959.gi32...@desktop
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:25:01 -0500, Robert Braddock wrote: I have a Radeon 8500 video card which I use as video-in for my computer to act as my tv monitor. Sometime since the Summer, this has stopped working and I am having no luck finding any helpful information by searching. Most searches just refer to the old GATOS project, which hasn't done anything for years, but supposedly has been rolled into xorg's drivers. (...) Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports no usable video port found. (...) If the card used to work and now suddenly stopped creating the /dev/ video0 device, I would look into dmesg log, maybe there is any hint on why the video device is not being created (missing module, kernel change, firmware needed, conflicting drivers, radeon driver changes...). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.14.43...@gmail.com
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:39:59 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 02 Jan 2011 at 11:33:48 +, Camaleón wrote: Other preset modes are -dPDFSETTINGS=/print and -dPDFSETTINGS=/press which provides higher quality PDF and so, a bigger file size. -dPDFSETTINGS=/printer and -dPDFSETTINGS=/prepress with Ghostscript 8.62. That must be then... I was speaking from memory O:-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.14.44...@gmail.com
Re: Packages - what's the best way?
On Sunday 02 January 2011 10:29:14 Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 10:05:38AM +, Lisi wrote: On Monday 15 November 2010 03:54:42 Bob Proulx wrote: Rob Hurle wrote: Does anyone have advice on the best way to handle a .deb package? The easiest way is to not handle .deb files at all. Instead allow apt-get to install the package and any dependencies from the network. I use aptitude at the command line. aptitude and apt-get seem to leap-frog round each other as to which is best. Mostly it is largely a matter of personal choice. Please note: if I remember correctly, the upgrade procedure from Debian 5.x to Debian 6.0 will _require_ the use of apt-get for the actual upgrade itself. I believe that that is so. When you come to upgrade a machine, PLEASE read the release notes carefully and follow the commands listed. Doing anything otherwise may result in your machine being difficult to set up / you may get into a situation where you cannot upgrade / downgrade. Oh, and did I say to please read and follow the upgrade instructions carefully? This is why I shall not upgrade, but rather reinstall, except possibly on a test-bed machine. It would take me until Wheezy is stable to read the Squeeze notes! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021452.40842.lisi.re...@gmail.com
build your own ... (primarily Linux/Debian multiboot box)
~ this is not a hardware community but you will see why I ask this q here: ~ At sites like these: ~ http://www.tomshardware.com/theme-build-your-own,156.html ~ http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366841,00.asp ~ you find pretty good outlines/step-by-step guides on how to build a PC on your own. The thing is that these guidelines mostly follow the money instead of doing a use case analysis of the hardware (e.g. optimal balance of quantity and type/quality of memory + SSD and harddrives (+ mainboard/processor)) that would let you grow as you go ~ Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and software is very important for that to happen safely ~ Any other (better) build-your-own places out there considering such aspects, or any suggestions in general? ~ Thanks lbrtchx -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimwvnu0+xwqmfhilstajib+eshncn-yrh9x9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Not able to update using apt
On 01/02/2011 01:50 PM, David Sastre wrote: On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:04:18AM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: On 01/01/2011 09:09 PM, David Sastre wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 08:14:08PM +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I just installed Debian Squeeze on a Eee PC. The installer downloaded all the packages during the install but when I want to install more packages at the prompt I only get: Could not resolve 'ftp.sunet.se' I'm able to ping ftp.sunet.se and the mirror is working on my other laptop. /etc/resolv.conf is updated correctly, I get an IP from my router. It does not help getting a new lease using dhclient. How does your /etc/apt/sources.list (or any files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) look like? deb http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ squeeze main deb-src http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian/ squeeze main Can you try: -another mirror -apt-get/aptitude update -apt-get/aptitude install some.package I finally figured it out. The cheap router I share with my neighbor does not handle IPv6. After disabling IPv6 all is good: echo net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 /etc/sysctl.d/disableipv6.conf edit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases.conf and * Comment out: alias net-pf-10 ipv6 * Add: alias net-pf-10 off alias ipv6 off and also setting network.dns.disableIPv6 to true for Iceweasel and Thunderbird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d209b90.1020...@daniel-gr-andersson.com
X Keyboard layout trouble
On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: How does your /etc/X11/xorg.conf InputDevice section look like? Like this: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc102 Option XkbLayout de Option XkbVariant nodeadkeys EndSection Thanks, robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=akklmvkknuthxnjusazqppdne2o+mdfaza...@mail.gmail.com
Re: X Keyboard layout trouble
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Mine (under lenny) is this: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout es EndSection So try by commenting (#) the XkbVariant line (the full line, starting in #Option) and the restart the X server, relogin or reboot. Tried it all. It really isn't that simple in this case. Best regards, robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=qzuwtw9zbwe6ona8bj=p4wsqlkwcav-xma...@mail.gmail.com
Re: build your own ... (primarily Linux/Debian multiboot box)
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:27:12 +, Albretch Mueller wrote: (...) Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and software is very important for that to happen safely Hibernation is not bullet-proof because hardware manufacturers do not certify their drivers for linux (no Energy Star compliance here). It can work for sometime and then break (due to a kernel or VGA/wifi driver upgrade) so my advice is that you select the components that best suit your needs and budget, ensure all the components are more or less linux- friendly and the try to solve the problems you encounter in the way. Of course, the more open drivers you use, the better to get this working (proprietary VGA or wifi drivers can be hard to debug and there are many chances developers reject a bug when using these closed drivers). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.16.07...@gmail.com
Re: making a pdf file smaller the debian way....
What you have is some sort of image format inside a PDF container. It is probably already compressed, which is why Zip had little effect on it. You need to extract the image, use image software to shrink it, and put it back in a PDF container. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87hbdr9u4r@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: set privoxy to rewrite http to https
On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 03:46:09AM -0800, S Mathias wrote: [...] The problem is: e.g.: facebook... if i go to https://www.facebook.com/ that's ok, it's https. But all the links are http on the site.. if i click on a http link, it will request the page on http, and THEN it switches to https. Heres the problem. How/where could i write a privoxy rule, to rewrite all the http links to https? [so that it would by always trully over https] [...] Here's how you would do it with a filter in Privoxy, but it won't actually work. I'll explain below, and give a better solution. This would go in a .filter file in /etc/privoxy/ (probably user.filter): FILTER: https_dammit Make explicit http links into https links s/href=http:/href=https:/g Now, in some .action file (probably user.action): { +filter{https_dammit} } .facebook.com You can add as many domains, one per line, below .facebook.com as you like. This will modify, on the fly, the HTML you receive from the domains listed. It won't work, however, because if you are requesting the HTML via HTTPS then it isn't passing through Privoxy at all. Privoxy isn't an HTTPS proxy, just an HTTP proxy (it will pass a connection to an HTTPS server, but it will not actually do SSL). Instead, you can set up Privoxy to respond to requests to a particular domain with a 301 (or 302, I forget) response and the https:// version of the URL. This may or may not cause trouble with POST requests, so you may have to add likely POST paths to an action turning off the redirect (this goes in user.action): { +redirec...@http://@https://@} } .facebook.com ( -redirect } www.facebook.com/some/post/path Note that none of this is tested, so you may have to play with it a bit to get it working. thank you for any information Happy New Year! --Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102160846.ga3...@anthropohedron.net
Re: X Keyboard layout trouble
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:03:22 +0100, Robert Latest wrote: Mine (under lenny) is this: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Keyboard Driver kbd Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout es EndSection Tried it all. It really isn't that simple in this case. Run xev and type the combo of one of the characters you are not getting, like [ to see what you get instead. Also, review your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file. BTW, how do you setup your keyboard/mouse settings in dwm? Hum... There was a bug about this: dwm: Almost unusable with a french keyboard. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=423026 But is hard to believe dwm cannot be setup easily to work with a non-US keyboards :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.16.37...@gmail.com
Re: build your own ... (primarily Linux/Debian multiboot box)
On Sun, 2 Jan 2011 15:27:12 + Albretch Mueller lbrt...@gmail.com wrote: ~ this is not a hardware community but you will see why I ask this q here: ~ At sites like these: ~ http://www.tomshardware.com/theme-build-your-own,156.html ~ http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2366841,00.asp ~ you find pretty good outlines/step-by-step guides on how to build a PC on your own. The thing is that these guidelines mostly follow the money instead of doing a use case analysis of the hardware (e.g. optimal balance of quantity and type/quality of memory + SSD and harddrives (+ mainboard/processor)) that would let you grow as you go ~ Even though I almost exclusively work on Linux/Debian, I need to build a multiboot PC and one of the critical points to me is for the box to easily go into hibernation (and back ;-)) in no time and with no problem whatsoever. I know the combination of right hard- and software is very important for that to happen safely ~ sleeping properly is one of the things I have a great deal of trouble with on Linux systems. Usually it's the video card, so I would pay special attention to that. Having said that, older hardware tends to work better in this regard, and as Camaleon says, try to use things which have free software drivers. Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102083943.4c0ae...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
Albretch Mueller wrote: but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory ~ Why would that be? Because the original Unix ls command many years ago did this to compress the information give to you. If it is a recent file then you get the time down to the minute and the year is assumed to be the most recent year. But if the file is much older then you don't really care about the minute but you do care about the year. You are a human, this is the way humans talk. That is how the ls command has always been on Unix systems. If you don't like it then you can supply a ls option --time-style=STYLE or TIME_STYLE variable and change the format to your liking. But there is no need to guess at this. It is all documented. Start at the top node of the documentation. $ info coreutils 'ls invocation' Press the spacebar to page through the documentation until you get to the section 10.1.6 Formatting file timestamps where all is documented. By default, file timestamps are listed in abbreviated form. Most locales use a timestamp like `2002-03-30 23:45'. However, the default POSIX locale uses a date like `Mar 30 2002' for non-recent timestamps, and a date-without-year and time like `Mar 30 23:45' for recent timestamps. A timestamp is considered to be recent if it is less than six months old, and is not dated in the future. And the documentation goes on to the formatting controls that affect the time format. Good stuff. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
Chris Jackson c.jack...@shadowcat.co.uk writes: Albretch Mueller wrote: ~ ... or ls not properly displaying them in some cases. ~ I got this compressed file that seems to be the metadata snapshot of a file system you get by running: ~ ls -lR ~ but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory ~ Why would that be? Under the C or POSIX locale, timestamps which are near to now are shown with the time and without the year; those well removed show the year, but not the time. I'm not sure of exactly how far into the future or past the cutoff point is. This is generally useful to human readers but a pain for automated parsing. With GNU ls, you can pass --full-time or --time-style=various options (see the ls man page for details); alternatively stat can be useful. Other locales may vary. You can also use the same options in the environment variable TIME_STYLE. -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aajjdwe9@oak.localnet
Re: Squeeze. apt-get update failed to fetch .../binary-i386/Packages.gz
Mark Goldshtein wrote: Does the 'http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' and 'http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' are contain the same packages for update? When I read your message I was going to comment upon some of your /etc/apt/sources.list entries. But I didn't have the time to double check to see if what I was going to say was going to be wrong and so didn't make the comment. They were your entries after all. I assumed that you had some reason to put them there. But here you are asking about them so I will say something regardless. You had the following entries: deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates contrib non-free main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/updates contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free Double check those. Or maybe just clean out your file and start again. You appeared to have a significant amount of lint collected in your file. For Lenny I have: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free For Squeeze I propose (squeeze is not released yet): deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free ## available after release: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free ## available after release: deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free Try that and you should have better luck. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports no usable video port found. If the card used to work and now suddenly stopped creating the /dev/ video0 device, I would look into dmesg log, maybe there is any hint on why the video device is not being created (missing module, kernel change, firmware needed, conflicting drivers, radeon driver changes...). Sorry if it was unclear, but the video overlay thing through X/Xvideo is different from /dev/video0. I've never had a /dev/video0 device, even when it was working (this is why xawtv and kdetv were the only programs that work -- they are the only ones I've found that recognize the overlay instead of needing a /dev/video0). I'd like to have a /dev/video0, but as I said, I have no idea how to get that to happen, and my searches never turn up anything but old references to GATOS. I haven't seen errors in the boot log either. Thanks, Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102175954.gg4...@leary.csoft.net
sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
Hi, Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for sleeping the system. Sleeping, to me, is separate from hibernate or suspend which tries and save the state of the machine to disk or ram. This was simply setting the machine to low power state. I've been going through the list archives and can't find the command. Anyone know what I'm talking about ? ;-) Thanks, Brian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102111840.3f39f...@bamboo.deldotd.com
Re: Squeeze. apt-get update failed to fetch .../binary-i386/Packages.gz
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote: Mark Goldshtein wrote: Does the 'http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' and 'http://http.us.debian.org squeeze/contrib i386 Packages/DiffIndex' are contain the same packages for update? When I read your message I was going to comment upon some of your /etc/apt/sources.list entries. But I didn't have the time to double check to see if what I was going to say was going to be wrong and so didn't make the comment. They were your entries after all. I assumed that you had some reason to put them there. But here you are asking about them so I will say something regardless. You had the following entries: deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates contrib non-free main deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/updates contrib deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free Double check those. Or maybe just clean out your file and start again. You appeared to have a significant amount of lint collected in your file. For Lenny I have: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib non-free For Squeeze I propose (squeeze is not released yet): deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free ## available after release: deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free ## available after release: deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free Try that and you should have better luck. Thanks for your time, Bob! Everything is fine now. -- Sincerely Yours' Mark Goldshtein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=+mmwhcwbw3-zrswdorgg72-aeszj034fxq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: File systems' timestamps apparently formatted in a wrong way ...
In aanlktins-qfs4h+lazyfnjmnb9fxrgaqctympkvz0...@mail.gmail.com, Albretch Mueller wrote: ls -lR but not all timestamps are formatted the same. You get them as, say, Mar 24 2004, but also as Dec 26 09:55 (without the year!) and they are (or seem to be) files in the same directory Why would that be? From the Single Unix Specification version 2: If the -l option is specified, the following information will be written: %s %u %s %s %u %s %s\n, file mode, number of links, owner name, group name, number of bytes in the file, date and time, pathname The date and time, field will contain the appropriate date and timestamp of when the file was last modified. In the POSIX locale, the field is the equivalent of the output of the following date command: date +%b %e %H:%M if the file has been modified in the last six months, or: date +%b %e %Y (where two space characters are used between %e and %Y) if the file has not been modified in the last six months or if the modification date is in the future, except that, in both cases, the final newline character produced by date is not included and the output is as if the date command were executed at the time of the last modification date of the file rather than the current time. When the LC_TIME locale category is not set to the POSIX locale, a different format and order of presentation of this field may be used. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
In 20110102111840.3f39f...@bamboo.deldotd.com, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for sleeping the system. Sleeping, to me, is separate from hibernate or suspend which tries and save the state of the machine to disk or ram. This was simply setting the machine to low power state. If you are talking about a low-power ACPI state, then you are indeed talking about suspending the system or hibernating the system. Specifically, ACPI S3 : Suspend to RAM : Sleep Mode :: ACPI S4 : Suspend to Disk : Hibernate. The kernel has support for entering C3 (and I think S1) automatically. I don't know how a Linux-based system can go into S2. If you just want to turn off the monitor, search for DPMS. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: udev question
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 11:49:06AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 01 Jan 2011 16:13:34 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: On Sat, Jan 01, 2011 at 04:56:50PM +, Camaleón wrote: Those steps are about how to sync your music/photos, but I think the most important part is the ifuse package that allows the device to be mounted as a mass storage devices. If you already have it installed, plug the device and check if it is listed as external unit. When plugged in I get just the output shown in my original post which includes a 40 digit serial number so I tried ifuse /media/ipod -u The_40_digit_serial_number The device was not found. Then I dunno what can be failing... maybe you are facing some kind of bug? :-? ifuse: Fails to recognize connected iPod touch http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=563011 This bug describes my problem exactly - I'll track it and await resolution. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.02.11.49...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102185657.ga3...@tomgeorge.info
What happened to consolechars?
Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Specifically the problem is typically with the arrows which mutt uses to indicate the subject threads. Instead of lines and arrows the display uses the letter a with a circumflex, the 3/4 character, the copywrite symbol and another special symbol. In text occasionally odd symbols appear in the middle of words and in place of numbers or bullets in lists of items. Normally I just ignore all this as I know what is meant but occasionally it results in some ambiguity. In the past when this was a problem I used the command consolechars -d where the -d was to restore a default character set. Since lang=en.US,UTF-8 has always been specified in locale I have no idea what this default character set was, I only knew it fixed the problem. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102192355.gb3...@tomgeorge.info
Re: set privoxy to rewrite http to https
On Saturday 01 January 2011 06:46:09 S Mathias wrote: I use the KB SSL Enforcer https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/flcpelgcagfhfoegekianiofphddcko f?hl=en so i could browse the net safer [i mean webserver - me] with using https, if available. Note that there is an EFF-authored Firefox extension that's supposed to have this functionality -- see here: http://www.eff.org/https-everywhere It works the same way that your privoxy works, by rewriting HTML pages on the fly according to a rule set, with the goal of putting https links on https-loaded pages, where https links are known to exist and work. You may be able to use this directly, if you're willing to switch to firefox, but even if you're not, it may be useful as a source of rules to apply to the tool you're using. I should probably disclaim that I don't actually use this extension, and that while I am a member of the EFF, I don't work for them, and am not affiliated with https-everywhere. -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021429.00528.rei...@bellatlantic.net
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Sat January 1 2011 03:50:54 Sven Joachim wrote: On 2011-01-01 12:26 +0100, Daniel Andersson wrote: I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. But it seems that both Evolution and Epiphany has been moved from gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core. They were not a part of gnome-core until I ran an update yesterday (but only Evolution got installed automatically). So why have they been moved? Basically because gnome-desktop-environment is too big to fit on CD 1. See bug #608098 for more information, especially http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608098#31. Creating a new package to depend upon evolution and ephiphany and gnome-core would be a less harmful solution. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021308.36495.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
squeeze audio cd and automount
hi debianers, automounting is not working since my upgrade to squeeze. the loader is now grub2. I can mount usb and, dvd's and data cd's only manually from the command line. /etc/fstab and nautilus options are as they should be. Only for dvd's nautilus creates a folder. besides this audio cd are not detected ay least by sound-juicer and totem. tried all audio devices. Will be very grateful for any help. Cheers, Fil
Re: Debian GNU/Linux Lenny server automatically reboot
Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net writes: Csanyi Pal wrote: I have Debian GNU/Linux Lenny system as a server machine. I run on it Apache2 webserver, Moodle, etc.. I notice that that it did reboot sometimes automatically. Why could this happen? How can I inspect the cause of this event? Understanding Linux crashes is a royal pain in the rear. You have several options: [snip] 3. install a kernel that supports crash dumps and a crash dump utility - note that this is a bit of a pain in Linux, less so in BSD and Solaris based systems - with this approach you can set your machine to save a crash dump, then reboot - you can analyze the dump at your leisure -- sort of important if people depend on your server being up Linux does NOT make crash analysis easy. I have had installed the linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 package but my PC Box reboot automatically often. So I install linux-source-2.6.26 package and compiled it with CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP=y option, and installed it. I did the following: [code] $ sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.26 zlib-bin zlib1g zlib1g-dev zlibc $ cd /usr/src/ $ sudo -E tar xvfj linux-source-2.6.26.tar.bz2 $ cd linux-source-2.6.26/ Copy the /boot/config-2.6.26-1-686 to the /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26 as .config and edit the line to be: CONFIG_CRASH_DUMP=y $ sudo -E make oldconfig $ sudo -E make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y $ sudo -E make-kpkg -initrd kernel_image I want to install kexec-tools for crash dump analysis. Is it enough or must I install more packages, say: crash, crash-whitepaper, watchdog? How can I use these tools for crash dump analysis? -- Regards, Paul http://sourceforge.net/projects/lptinterface/ http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/lpt-interface/ http://csanyi-pal.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tyhr7za4@debian-asztal.excito
Re: Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
The rcN.d format is an excellent design if we can just keep insserv from mangling it. As I haven't converted one of my systems to dependency based boot yet, there still has to be some way to keep the old way. No idea why there is no documented way to switch that on... It could be that touch /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering dpkg-reconfigure -plow sysv-rc does the trick, but I haven't tried it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101022259.01710...@sfritsch.de
variable in loop
$ ASDF=hello; a=0; a=$(( 70 - $(echo $ASDF | awk '{print length}') )); echo $a $ASDF$(for i in {1..$a}; do printf .; done) 65 hello. $ Why doesn't it print: 65 hello. What am i missing? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/733711.52712...@web121404.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: insserv + apache2 + bind9 = pain
On Sun January 2 2011 13:59:01 Stefan Fritsch wrote: The rcN.d format is an excellent design if we can just keep insserv from mangling it. As I haven't converted one of my systems to dependency based boot yet, there still has to be some way to keep the old way. No idea why there is no documented way to switch that on... You should be able to preserve the old way by correctly answering the question when insserv is installed or sysv-rc is updated. We haven't tested that yet so I can't vouch for it. If you try it please let us know if it's safe. For our first three test upgrades we assumed insserv would not destroy the boot order as there is no warning in the debconf question or the release notes. Our third test upgrade was the first server test upgrade, and that was when we realized that insserv is a disaster. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101021437.26516.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
* bri...@aracnet.com bri...@aracnet.com schrieb: yes i am capable of modifying drivers, and have done so, although not for video. Same for me. It's one of the things I earn my money with. having source means not (necessarily) having to wait on nvidia to apply a patch. sometimes patches to fix a problem are very simple and even somebody not that familiar with the subsystem in question can fix it. when the graphic card, or any other hardware, gets old enough which is common for MANY linux systems, nvidia will stop fixing bugs completely for old cards. planned obscelence and all that. ACK. BTW: Nvidia's binary blobs never really worked for me. (okay, 10yrs ago, the riva128 X-server somehow worked, but badly) Last time I had the unpleasant experience was on my previous notebook, the blob kernel module crashed the whole system as soon as X came up. A little analysis showed up funny things like self-modifying code. No, these guys simply cannot be trusted. I don't let any proprietary code into privileged areas (not even speaking of the kernel) whatsoever. Period. In recent years I've warned by customers not to buy nvidia stuff anymore. My little contribution that about 1k of nvidia boards did not get sold. Not enough for them to care, but if more and more people do so, they will have to, or get optimized away by the market. why do companies keep source secret for their old tech 10/100 cards. That happens when excelsheet jerks rule over things they dont understand. They simply can't imagine that there're really valid reasons for some people bying mainframes worth 100k$ which run seamlessly for decades. BTW: one of the funniest arguments for not releasing the sources I got back from NV jerks was the fear that leaks could be found. Well, seems they *know* how bad their code is ;-o They have bugs because they rev the silicon to save 0.005 on the price of the chip and then don't tell anybody. Funny: these excelsheet jerks are really good in calculating the total of their milicent-per-unit savings, but they dont have the slightest idea to what damage do themselves with their bad quality. lack of robustness is due to cost cutting and general ass-hattery on the part of the mfrs. it will always be thus unless source is available, or even better, open hardware. Well, better hardware would probably be the better approach in the long run. Why does every GPU require its own kernel driver ? Why can't they simply have one generic hardware interface/protocol for attaching shared memory and command channels and let the rest be done via some standardized highlevel language ? Todays GPUs are so powerful that they can easily render whole hires 3D scenaries completely on their own, but making them complete display servers speaking some standard protocol would be too expensive ? Absurd. cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102231324.ga2...@nibiru.local
Re: variable in loop
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 02:27:19PM -0800, S Mathias wrote: $ ASDF=hello; a=0; a=$(( 70 - $(echo $ASDF | awk '{print length}') )); echo $a $ASDF$(for i in {1..$a}; do printf .; done) 65 hello. $ Why doesn't it print: 65 hello. What am i missing? because a=65 for i in {1..$a} do echo $i done produces 1..65 because of the order of evoluation - {1..$a} is evaluated BEFORE $a is evaluated... A more portable way would be using the seq command: a=65 for i in `seq 1 $a` do echo $i done hope this helps -- Karl E. Jorgensen IT Operations Manager -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102232220.ga...@hawking.jorgensen.org.uk
Re: What happened to consolechars?
On 2011-01-02 14:23:55 -0500, Thomas H. George wrote: Some characters are not displayed correctly on my monitor. The command consolechars -d used to correct this problem but now it is unknown. Specifically the problem is typically with the arrows which mutt uses to indicate the subject threads. Instead of lines and arrows the display uses the letter a with a circumflex, the 3/4 character, the copywrite symbol and another special symbol. In text occasionally odd symbols appear in the middle of words and in place of numbers or bullets in lists of items. I don't know the answer to where consolechars is hiding, but I wanted to give you something else to think about. The problem you are describing, where special characters, like line-drawing characters and bullets, have been replaced with weird characters, is the classic symptom of an application not supporting UTF-8. In this case, I think it is your terminal emulator which is not supporting UTF-8. What terminal emulator are you using? Try running mutt in xterm and see if the arrows improve. Normally I just ignore all this as I know what is meant but occasionally it results in some ambiguity. In the past when this was a problem I used the command consolechars -d where the -d was to restore a default character set. Since lang=en.US,UTF-8 has always been specified in locale I have no idea what this default character set was, I only knew it fixed the problem. Now the command is gone and apt-cache search consolechars returns nothing. I don't know about consolechars. Hope that helps, Phil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103011339.ga4...@kasploosh.net
Re: [OT] Stupid consumers and inferior hardware
On Mon, 3 Jan 2011 00:13:24 +0100 Enrico Weigelt weig...@metux.de dijo: why do companies keep source secret for their old tech 10/100 cards. That happens when excelsheet jerks rule over things they dont understand. They simply can't imagine that there're really valid reasons for some people bying mainframes worth 100k$ which run seamlessly for decades. BTW: one of the funniest arguments for not releasing the sources I got back from NV jerks was the fear that leaks could be found. Well, seems they *know* how bad their code is ;-o It has far more to do with the legal department than the coding folks. These days chips are so complex that it is difficult to design one without inadvertently infringing on someone else's patent. If the source code for the driver is available it makes it a lot easier for competitors to figure out the design of your chip. Keeping the driver binary and secret makes it a lot harder for them to make legal claims. And these days suing a competitor into bankruptcy is just as effective for your bottom line as making a better product at a lower cost. Either way the competitor is not around any more, and the legal approach is usually more cost effective than the expense of designing a better and cheaper product. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110102174116.0ad35...@mailhost.pdx.edu
Re: variable in loop
Le 14976ième jour après Epoch, S. Mathias écrivait: What am i missing? Saying Hello, this post is Off Topic, but can someone help me, please, perhaps? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipy6ybp4@fermat.tourde.home
Re: can grub on one disk boot OS on another disk?
On 01/02/2011 05:27 AM, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 21 November 2010 21:04:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In4ce98645.6060...@optonline.net, Doug wrote: This may be my stupidity, but shouldn't a scsi disk be referred to as sdx? (Where x is a number, like 0 or 1.) Not in GRUB. Not anywhere on my system. I have sda, sdb etc. The partitions have numbers: sda1, sdb1 etc. Lisi Yes, of course. I don't know what I was thinking! Thanx for the heads-up! --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d213616.4060...@optonline.net
Re: variable in loop
Hi, S Mathias wrote: $ ASDF=hello; a=0; a=$(( 70 - $(echo $ASDF | awk '{print length}') )); echo $a $ASDF$(for i in {1..$a}; do printf .; done) 65 hello. $ Why doesn't it print: 65 hello. What am i missing? Don't know, but the following works: ASDF=hello; a=0; a=$(( 70 - $(echo $ASDF | awk '{print length}') )) echo -n $a $ASDF;for i in {`seq 1 1 $a`}; do printf '.'; done;echo Cheers -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d213691.6070...@affinityvision.com.au
firewall package for laptop wi-fi client
I need recommendations for a Debian firewall package to be installed on a laptop or notebook which is used for web browsing and web-based email in public wi-fi hotspots. My concern is to prevent infection or compromise of the laptop, so that the laptop may be connected safely to a home or office LAN which is protected by a dedicated firewall. My previous experience with firewalls has been limited to dedicated machines running firewall software such as SmoothWall. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103044227.ga2...@rlharris.org
Re: Radeon 8500, kdetv, and xawtv broken - no video overlay device
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 12:59:54PM -0500, Robert Braddock wrote: Now, it seems as though my overlay device just isn't there. Kdetv says there's no video device at all and xawtv reports no usable video port found. FYI, someone on the xorg list gave me a tip to put radeon.modeset=0 on the kernel command-line at boot. After doing that, the overlay device is back, but kdetv and xawtv still don't work: kdetv shows some red lines instead of video xawtv can only show video at the default tiny window size. Any resizing will resize the image, but be black everywhere that wasn't visible through the default window (even if I start it with -fullscreen). Is there any other program that understands the video overlay device thing? Kdetv and xawtv just don't seem to prioritize working... Can I get a /dev/video0 for a Radeon 8500's input? Xorg obviously isn't going to bother to keep it working, and it would be really nice to be able to use a better program than xawtv. -- Robert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103050043.gb16...@leary.csoft.net
Re: sleeping the system vs hibernate or suspend
On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 02:18:40PM EST, bri...@aracnet.com wrote: Hi, Someone posted (to this list) a simple command line for sleeping the system. [..] $ xset dpms force suspend # ..? cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110103054957.ga4...@pavo.local