KDE4 and other WM: user-specific avoiding of plasma-autostart?
Hi, This is an u to date Debian testing installation. I'm running kde4 through awesome (having set the KDEWM environment variable). To prevent plasma to start in this environment, I have renamed both plasma-desktop.desktop and plasma-netbook.desktop, yet I do not like this setup, as it is system-wide and not user-specific. Where in Debian might I prevent plasma's autostart in a user-specific manner? Thanks for any hints. Sincerely, Joh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih3dse$ql7$1...@dough.gmane.org
Selling Preinstalled Debian on Laptop Hardware
I would like to sell or setup a shop for Preinstalled Debian on Laptop. I am looking for developing a kind of company who can ship/sell a complete free (free as in freedom) product in India * Freedom OS - Debian will all the packages are free * openly specified hardware. * Debian should work out of box. I want to go this approach because I can create better products if I target for single hardware architecture. I am good at software side, but not good at hardware side.. So How can i accomplish this task ? I mean is there any good quality china or anyother laptop available which i can directly purchase or is there any similar efforts ? Any other help or suggestions ?? -- ┌─┐ │ Narendra Sisodiya │ http://narendrasisodiya.com └─┘
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:36:57 +, Camaleón wrote: > (note that everybody can reopen a bug) Camaleón, I read all your posts, and agree to them all. But I have to say I don't agree with you on this one. For *this specific case*, I *do* consider the DD's reply being "pointlessly abrasive, inappropriate and offensive". Giving such a jerky backlash, do you think it will make any difference for 1, or 10 or even a thousand Debian users oppose the DD's decision? > Debian is a distribution that tends to split packages a lot (and I mean > *a lot*) which I really think _is a good practice_ because it gives > both, plain users (by means of metapackages) and admins (by cherry > picking just the needed packages) the full control on their systems. Totally agree. Also, please note, for this specific case, the DD doesn't even have to get himself into trouble fiddling with the gnome-core packages. Just put those off-loading packages into, say, gnome-cd1 = GNOME installation designed to fit on one CD Nobody would care which GNOME packages he think should go into CD 1, and nobody would say anything. On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:01:51 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > And thus one lazy DD creates headaches for thousands of sysadmins. Strongly agree. And headaches for tens of thousands of power users as well. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih37c6$u56$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > A third case is when I am at work and the tunnel between dalton You have a complicated setup! > and joule is broken. Then POP3 can bring messages from the ISP > through the public Internet to cantor; but the ISP will not accept > a message from cantor via SMTP through the public Internet. In > this case messages must be sent through the Web interface of the ISP. > Presumeably it's this Web software which inserts " (#)". Now if a > message is read on cantor I have difficulty. That is not very nice of them. It is good that your tunnel is back working again so that you can avoid some of the problems. > The message-id is visible on cantor but I do not know of any way to > have the Web interface accept an In-reply-to parameter. That's when > a new thread begins. It must be more than this because the Subject line is also modified. Not having an In-Reply-To isn't changing the subject line. (shrug) > If the tunnel is broken I could simply refrain from retrieving mail to > the MUA on cantor and read all mail with the Web based interface. It wasn't the end of the world. It was just annoying and so I noted it. > Is threading of messages in Debian lists explained anywhere? I've never > seen an explanation. A few years ago I found how to use Message-id > and In-reply-to by exploration rather than straightforward reading. Standard email headers apply. RFC 2822 would cover them. Though perhaps the wikipedia page is more readable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email#Message_header Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
T o n g wrote: > That seems to me an absurd reason. Here is the actual reason, from http://bugs.debian.org/608098#31 | in squeeze, the gnome-session package now | depends on the basic components that are actually needed for running a | GNOME session. Since this change was made, I hadn’t known what to do of | gnome-core, as it had became obsolete. The size issue of fitting GNOME | on the first CD gave an obvious answer to what this metapackage should | become. Have you tried using gnome-session for whatever purposes you were previously installing gnome-core? If it doesn't work, open a bug report saying specifically why it doesn't work. -- see shy jo, who finds some of the attitudes and assumptions in this thread distressing signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re (7): OpenVPN server mode usage.
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > Thanks. One additional revision appears necessary. The man page > for OpenVPN has the heading "VPN Address Setup" with three examples. > Each of these examples has a --remote parameter on each end of the > tunnel. I assumed that a --remote parameter is essential in every > configuration. Not so. My tunnel now works with remote specified > only in the system with the dynamic address. Same here. Only my dynamic client has a remote set. The server simply waits for clients to connect. > If OpenVPN restarts in the system with the static address, then the > tunnel will be broken; Yes. But the tunnel will start when the client connects. If you restart the server then the client will detect this and connect. > but apparently this is addressed by use of ping parameters. Say for > example, "ping 120" on the statically addressed end and > "ping-restart 130" on the dynamically addressed end. The dynamic ip > end must listen for pings and restart when they fail; I do not > understand why the dynamic ip should send pings. The client defaults to "--ping-restart 120" if you don't override it with something different. I use the default value. I don't put anything in the configuration file. > The tunnel works again but I have yet to prove the ping-restart capability. I use keepalive 20 120 on my server. This is the same as specifying all of four different ping parameters. keepalive 20 120 Same as: ping 20 ping-restart 120 push "ping 20" push "ping-restart 120" Because this exists on the server then the 'push' actions will push those to the client and configure the client. I like to keep that configuration all in one place on the server and have it take effect globally for all clients. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: GMail backup on debian
Thanks a lot for your detailed explanations, Camaleón. On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:13:04 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Moreover, how can I view those folders in thunderbird? (I was able to >> view local mailbox files before, but somehow I can't do it now) > > You only have to create a new IMAP account in Iceweasel/Thunderbird for > your Gmail account and then you can access your Gmail's folder/sub- > folders as in any other IMAP server. Oh, I meant to ask how to view *local* mail (in Maildir, or in mailbox files) using Iceweasel/Thunderbird. More of an offline viewer for local files, not with remote accounts. Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih34go$u56$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
Jack Schneider wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > mdadm --stop /dev/md125 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 > > > > mdadm --stop /dev/126 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 > > Bob, a small glitch. mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array. > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above. If mdadm --stop was successful then it must have been an array before that point. So that doesn't make sense. Double check everything. mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 mdadm --examine /dev/sdc1 mdadm --detail /dev/md0 > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed. Looks like > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere... If you "create" an array it will destroy the data that is on the array. Unless you want to discard your data you don't want to do that. You want to "assemble" an array from the components. That is an important distinction. You really want to be able to assemble the array. Do so with one disk only if that is the only way (would need the mdadm forcing options to start an array without all of the components) and then add the other disk back in. But if the array was up a moment before then it should still be okay. So I am suspicious about the problem. Poke around a little more with --examine and --detail first. Something does seem right. > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config. Running from a > sysrescuecd. I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd. Which > I made this AM. That would definitely improve things. Because then you will have compatible versions of all of the tools. Is your system amd64? > I need to find out what's there... > further: > Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox prompt? If you are in a busybox prompt at boot time then you are already root and don't need an explicit 'su'. You should be able to execute root commands. The question is whether the mdadm command is available at that point. The reason for busybox is that it is a self-contained set of small unix commands. 'mdadm' isn't one of those and so probably isn't available. Normally you can edit files and the like. Normally I would mount and chroot to the system. But you don't yet have a system. So that is problematic at that point. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On Monday 17 January 2011 12:33:25 T o n g wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:26:52 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > > It is totally unsupported and may break everything but every time we've > > converted a system from Ubuntu to Debian in this way it has worked fine. > > Most important underlying requirement is the compatibility (e.g. glibc, > etc). > > The convoluted Ubuntu versioning always makes my head spin. Does anyone > have some kind of rule of thumb of which Ubuntu versions are compatible > with Debian testing/sid? There isn't one. Compatibility with Debian is wonderful when it occurs, but it is not a goal of the Ubuntu release process / team. Mixing Debian and Ubuntu packages isn't supported by either set of developers; but if APT / DPkg doesn't complain about missing dependencies, you are most likely okay, especially if the libraries in the dependency chain have symbols files generated and shipped in their binary packages. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011, Monte Milanuk wrote: > My big question is... most of these external drive boxes seem to > claim support for JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 10, 5, etc. - should I presume > that is simply fake RAID like many commodity mobos have, and not Either that, or worse: data-eating crap like many low-cost PCI-SATA host bridges (such as some of the sil3xxx chips). > really usable in Linux? In that case, with all the drives hanging > off the one eSATA connection, will Linux (specifically Debian > Squeeze) see all four drives, or just the first one? Will I be able > to configure them in a RAID5 array as desired? It will see all disks, yes. But if the port-multiplier chip is buggy crap, your data is toast. It is best to avoid SATA port multipliers like the plague because of that, since it is extremely difficult to shop for an external bay with a particular chipset... Look for a specific hardware product that has been in the market for at least two years, and with many happy *Linux* users (Windows drivers might be working around chip errata unknown to Linux libata). Sorry, I can't personally recommend any. Or get a SAS HBA, and a SAS-attached enclosure. Far more expensive, but at least you can be sure it will work very well (yes, it will take SATA disks as well as the more expensive (and better) SAS disks). -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110118015753.gb18...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:27:11PM +, Lisi wrote: > On Monday 17 January 2011 22:30:11 Celejar wrote: > > > I have also had another look at Audacity, as suggested. But there is > > > just too much there that I simply don't understand. However, I shall > > > return to it if I get nowhere with gnome-media. Audacity is generally easy to use, available on multiple platforms, and is my first recommendation to people new to audio processing. > > You might also take a look at mhwaveedit. Very simple, and not many > > options, but it works well. Depending on your needs, and if the GUI waveform display isn't so important you may like to experiment with Nama. (Nama does have a simple Tk UI for controlling transport, effects, etc. with more advanced features available at the command prompt.) Nama is Debian packaged. That version behaves reasonably well. You can also easily update to the latest/greatest version from github. http://freeshell.de/~bolangi/cgi1/nama.cgi/00home.html Cheers, Joel (Nama author) -- Joel Roth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110118015031.GB22800@sprite
Re: networking
On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 08:13:38PM +0530, Mihira Fernando wrote: >> >> AFAIK, allow-hotplug makes the interface come up only when a cable >> is plugged in. > > It seems Bob explained good basics but I think there is some other > confusion here. > > No when device becomes available to Linux kernel even if wires are not > plugged. The wiring event is something you need ifplugd to take care. > >> auto makes the interface come up at boot time >> regardless of the cable state. > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#list-of-stanzas-in-eni > (I read the source to come up with this table). > > auto is old name for allow-auto which starts itself by the initialization > script. > > allow-hotplug is new and it starts when the device becomes available to > Linux kernel. Thanks for the allow-hotplug/ifplugd clarification. Interfaces tagged with "allow-hotplug" in "/etc/network/interfaces" are brought up by "/lib/udev/net.agent" because it runs "ifup --allow=hotplug". Interfaces tagged with "auto"/"allow-auto" in "/etc/network/interfaces" are brought up by "/etc/init.d/networking" because it runs "ifup -a". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=HfJiTeEsSshCAtAgA3zx-B3ifM4rOP=h-0...@mail.gmail.com
kernel-package: 2.6.37 kernelrelease target no longer works
I've built a new 2.6.37 kernel with kernel-package where I use an "--append-to-version" option to add a hostname a build number. Due to a change in the kernel Makefile, "make kernelrelease" no longer gets the kernel release from include/config/kernel.release , but instead uses scripts/setlocalversion . This causes problems because the extra stuff added to EXTRAVERSION by --append-to-version is no longer there when you run "make kernelrelease", so I get a bare kernel version instead of my version. The Linux Makefile change was made in commit 7b8ea53d. I don't know whether this should be considered a bug in kernel-package or the kernel. The kernel is no longer preserving the value of EXTRAVERSION passed on the make command line when make is subsequently invoked, whereas it previously did. But then, the kernel people don't seem to care much about stable interfaces, so perhaps kernel-package should adapt somehow. What are people's thoughts? For now, I'm going to revert 7b8ea53d in my tree so I can get VirtualBox installing again (it compares $(uname -r) to $(make kernelrelease)), but this should probably be fixed somewhere. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/f0a.4d34d5fb.9...@getafix.xdna.net
external drive enclosures / esata / port multipliers?
Hello all, I have two older PCs on my LAN posing as 'servers'... one running FreeNAS off a USB stick using three 500GB hdds in a ZFS RAID-Z pool serving as storage for the LAN and one running Debian Lenny with an 80GB drive used as a general purpose 'tinker' box that I can ssh into, etc. Problem is that the SMART report for one of those 500GB drives in the FreeNAS box is showing some pre-failure attributes, and the whole array is a little small anyways. Rather than simply replace one 500GB drive with another 500GB drive, and still have no backup of the file server, I'd like to upgrade all the drives to 2TB ones - but I have no where to store that much data in the mean while. As such, I started looking at getting a 4-bay external drive enclosure with an eSATA card for the Debian box, with the hopes of creating a RAID5 + LVM setup using those drives and backing the data up to that external drive enclosure. After the backup is done, replace the drives in the FreeNAS box and rebuild the array there and mirror the data back. Then, I'd have both the primary storage (on the FreeNAS box) and a backup (which I don't have currently) using the external drive enclosure on the Debian box. My big question is... most of these external drive boxes seem to claim support for JBOD, RAID 0, 1, 10, 5, etc. - should I presume that is simply fake RAID like many commodity mobos have, and not really usable in Linux? In that case, with all the drives hanging off the one eSATA connection, will Linux (specifically Debian Squeeze) see all four drives, or just the first one? Will I be able to configure them in a RAID5 array as desired? Thanks, Monte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih2jj4$pd6$1...@dough.gmane.org
GRUB Update - Squeeze Installation
I have workstation containing both windows vista and debian lenny. The boot manager was grub. I had since removed ext and swap partions that housed debian lenny and installed in it's place debian squeeze using usb netinst. The installation process saw windows vista and installed grub. However, the mbr doesn't see grub now, I get "no bootable device found". BTW.. the ext3 partition is bootable. Is there a way to use usb netinst to fix this? Thanks in advance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimQp8yyyT8xMZ=tawa1thgqumarfcawo5uwz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Monday 17 January 2011 22:30:11 Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:04:54 + > > Lisi wrote: [snip] > > I had in fact been looking for the gnome-sound-recorder app, but had > > failed to find any mention of it. So I shall start by trying > > gnome-media. Thanks Chamaleón. > > > > I have also had another look at Audacity, as suggested. But there is > > just too much there that I simply don't understand. However, I shall > > return to it if I get nowhere with gnome-media. > > You might also take a look at mhwaveedit. Very simple, and not many > options, but it works well. Thanks, Celejar. That is very helpful. I have installed it and had a quick look. As you say it is worth a longer look. I now have uninterrupted access for a few weeks to the computer that I want to set up for recording, so shall be trying this lot in the near(ish?) future. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101172327.12024.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Hard drives with 4 KB sectors and small file systems
Has anyone experience or can provide a link to information on performance impact with the new hard drives with 4 KB sectors when using file system with 1 KB block size? My question is not about the alignment issue caused by physical/logical sector size of 4096/512 Bytes. I haven't yet played with that but I also wouldn't expect any problems here since 4 KB alignment should be easy to achieve. But I have a number of ext3 and ext4 file systems that use a small block size of 1 KB. This is because of the average small file size on these file systems, e.g. the news spool with an average file size of 2900 Bytes. Going to 4 KB block size would cause an increase of the internal fragmentation from about 15% to approx. 42% which I wouldn't like. But with a 4 KB sector size and 1 KB file system block size writing of a file might decrease performance significantly. When writing a file, e.g. with dd if=/dev/zero of=foo bs=2900 count=1, instead of writing 3 blocks of 1 KB, i.e. 6 sectors of 512 B, it would be necessary to read a 4 KB sector, modify 3 KB of it and write it back (assuming the 3 KB are in the same 4 KB sector, otherwise two reads and 2 writes would be necessary). Has anyone practical performance figures for such a scenario? urs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ygftyh7uopx@janus.isnogud.escape.de
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:50:12 -0600 Jack Schneider wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700 > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Jack Schneider wrote: > > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the > > > > new disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array? If > > > > so then you are not done yet. The LVM volume group won't be > > > > able to assemble without the new disk. If you did then you > > > > need to fix up LVM next. > > >> > > > NO! I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM.. So that is > > > not a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed.. > > > > Oh good. Then you are good to go. Run these commands to stop the > > arrays and to reassemble them with the new names. > > > > mdadm --stop /dev/md125 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 > > > > mdadm --stop /dev/126 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 > > > > Then try rebooting to the system. I think at that point that all > > should be okay and that it should boot up into the previous system. > > > > > Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort > > > you and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and > > > all will be well.. > > > > I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay. > > > > > I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait > > > for your response and then go!!! > > > > Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and > > to reboot to the previous system. I believe that should work. > > Hope so. These things can be finicky though. > > > > > One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm > > > v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which > > > changed the md names. Does this matter > > > > Yes. I am a little worried about that problem too. But we were at > > a good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things. But > > let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and > > you can boot to your system again. Then what should be done about > > the new disks? Let me talk about the new disks. But hold off > > working this part of the problem until you have the first part > > done. Just do one thing at a time. > > > > /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted > > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 > > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd > > > > This was created using newer metadata. I think that is going to be > > a problem for Lenny/Sqeeze. It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is > > 0.90. (A major difference is where the metadata is located. 1.0 > > is in a similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near > > the start of the device.) Plus you assigned the entire drive > > (/dev/sdb) instead of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1). I > > personally don't prefer that and always set up using a partition > > instead of the whole disk. > > > > I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks. I > > suggest stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a > > partion instead of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly > > created partitions. Do that under your (hopefully now booting) > > Squeeze system and then you are assured of compatibility. It is > > perhaps possible that because of the new metadata that the > > metadata=1.2 array won't be recognized under Squeeze. I don't > > know. I haven't been in that situation yet. I think that would be > > good though because it would mean that they would just look like > > raw disks again without needing to stop the array, if it never got > > started. Then you could partition and so forth. The future is > > hard to see here. > > > > So that is my advice. If the new array is running then I would stop > > it. (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb > > into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1. Then create the array > > using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions. Then decide how to make use > > of it. > > > > Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you > > also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to > > assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot. (Saying that > > mostly for people who find this in the archive later.) > > > > Bob > > > > Bob, a small glitch. mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array. > mdadm --stop was successful, before the above. > > It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed. Looks like > md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere... > > One of the problems of my "no problem found" mentality.. > > Jack > > Additionally, maybe I'm in the wrong config. Running from a sysrescuecd. I do have a current Debian-AMD64-rescue-live cd. Which I made this AM. I need to find out what's there... further: Can I execute the mdadm commands from a "su" out of a busybox prompt? Jack -- To UNSUBS
Re: Sound recording in Debian Lenny
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 00:04:54 + Lisi wrote: > On Wednesday 05 January 2011 19:22:29 Camaleón wrote: > > Another option could be installing the "gnome-media" metapackage that has > > the gnome-sound-recorder app, but I personally, prefer not to mix desktop > > environments libraries/applications (call me "old-fashioned", but I hate > > dealing with silly DE collisions :-P). > > Thanks to all of you. I have read, and hopefully learned and digested, all > of your very helpful replies. > > I had in fact been looking for the gnome-sound-recorder app, but had failed > to > find any mention of it. So I shall start by trying gnome-media. Thanks > Chamaleón. > > I have also had another look at Audacity, as suggested. But there is just > too > much there that I simply don't understand. However, I shall return to it if > I get nowhere with gnome-media. You might also take a look at mhwaveedit. Very simple, and not many options, but it works well. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117173011.82869c82.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > Jack Schneider wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new > > > disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array? If so > > > then you are not done yet. The LVM volume group won't be able to > > > assemble without the new disk. If you did then you need to fix > > > up LVM next. > >> > > NO! I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM.. So that is > > not a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed.. > > Oh good. Then you are good to go. Run these commands to stop the > arrays and to reassemble them with the new names. > > mdadm --stop /dev/md125 > mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 > > mdadm --stop /dev/126 > mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 > > Then try rebooting to the system. I think at that point that all > should be okay and that it should boot up into the previous system. > > > Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you > > and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all > > will be well.. > > I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay. > > > I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for > > your response and then go!!! > > Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and to > reboot to the previous system. I believe that should work. Hope so. > These things can be finicky though. > > > One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm > > v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed > > the md names. Does this matter > > Yes. I am a little worried about that problem too. But we were at a > good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things. But > let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and you > can boot to your system again. Then what should be done about the new > disks? Let me talk about the new disks. But hold off working this > part of the problem until you have the first part done. Just do one > thing at a time. > > /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd > > This was created using newer metadata. I think that is going to be a > problem for Lenny/Sqeeze. It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is 0.90. (A > major difference is where the metadata is located. 1.0 is in a > similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near the start > of the device.) Plus you assigned the entire drive (/dev/sdb) instead > of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1). I personally don't prefer > that and always set up using a partition instead of the whole disk. > > I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks. I suggest > stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a partion instead > of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly created > partitions. Do that under your (hopefully now booting) Squeeze system > and then you are assured of compatibility. It is perhaps possible > that because of the new metadata that the metadata=1.2 array won't be > recognized under Squeeze. I don't know. I haven't been in that > situation yet. I think that would be good though because it would > mean that they would just look like raw disks again without needing to > stop the array, if it never got started. Then you could partition and > so forth. The future is hard to see here. > > So that is my advice. If the new array is running then I would stop > it. (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb > into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1. Then create the array > using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions. Then decide how to make use > of it. > > Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you > also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to > assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot. (Saying that > mostly for people who find this in the archive later.) > > Bob > Bob, a small glitch. mdadm:/dev/sda1 exists but is not an md array. mdadm --stop was successful, before the above. It appears that a "--create"-like command is needed. Looks like md125 is md0 overwritten somewhere... One of the problems of my "no problem found" mentality.. Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117155012.7c001...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: JACK configuration
On 01/16/2011 11:15 AM, Robert Blair Mason Jr. wrote: > Hi all, > > I am attempting to record audio on my laptop. To this end, i've installed > Ardour/JACK. I have *finally* managed to get ALSA to work. However, I now > have a problem - the sound that is wired into the Mic In jack on the front of > the laptop will play back (so basically my laptop is functioning as a > speaker), but I can't seem to figure out how to get JACK to connect. Can > anyone help me configure JACK so that the input will go to Ardour? The > connection graph shows that system:capture1 and system:capture2 are wired to > go to Ardour:Audio In 1 and Ardour:Audio In 2, respectively (so it seems like > this should work). However, when the Ardour is prepped for record, the > volume bars that indicate input volume are relatively static, while I can > hear sound being played back. After recording, the track is silent. > > Portions of the output of amixer that look relevant: > <<--deleted-->> I'm not sure the ALSA settings are relevant, because ... > Any help would be much appreciated. > Please note, this is by memory and it's been a while, I would need a little time to be able to verify my sound system setup. With that caveat: First, to confirm that you have in fact set up to record: 1. IIRC, Ardour by default only has things set up for a pass through type of operation, which matches what you've described. Again, IIRC, you will need to create a "recording track" and connect it between the master out and master in channels. I will verify exactly what I have set up as soon as I can and let you know the various settings. 2. If you believe things should be working because you've made connections, it may be you haven't gotten things correctly "armed". In the main window, in the controls section for the track you intend to record on, there is a small round icon, which must be selected to arm the track. In the top section, there is also a round icon in a button (a bit larger than the one mentioned above ;), to the right of the playback button. You must select it next. Then, select the playback button to start processing. If everything is working, you should now see a light colored "ribbon" being created across the screen for the recording track only, and there should be two lines (assuming stereo input), inside the ribbon. If volumes are high enough, the lines should show amplitude variations. -- Bob McGowan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d34bc11.8060...@symantec.com
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
Jack Schneider wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you > > also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to > > assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot. (Saying that > > mostly for people who find this in the archive later.) > > What is the command to rebuild initrd? From what directory? > Just mostly for people who find this in the archive later. 8-) You can do this most easily by reconfiguring the kernel package. dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.32-5-i686 Adjust that for your currently installed kernel. That will rebuild the initrd as part of the postinst script process. Doing so will take the updated /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf information and update the stored copy in the initrd. (In the mdadm.conf file stored in the /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64 initial ram disk filesystem.) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:48:29 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > Jack Schneider wrote: > > Bob Proulx wrote:> will be well.. > > I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay. > > > I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for > > your response and then go!!! > > Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and to > reboot to the previous system. I believe that should work. Hope so. > These things can be finicky though. > > > One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm > > v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed > > the md names. Does this matter > > Yes. I am a little worried about that problem too. But we were at a > good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things. But > let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and you > can boot to your system again. Then what should be done about the new > disks? Let me talk about the new disks. But hold off working this > part of the problem until you have the first part done. Just do one > thing at a time. > > /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd > > This was created using newer metadata. I think that is going to be a > problem for Lenny/Sqeeze. It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is 0.90. (A > major difference is where the metadata is located. 1.0 is in a > similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near the start > of the device.) Plus you assigned the entire drive (/dev/sdb) instead > of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1). I personally don't prefer > that and always set up using a partition instead of the whole disk. > > I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks. I suggest > stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a partion instead > of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly created > partitions. Do that under your (hopefully now booting) Squeeze system > and then you are assured of compatibility. It is perhaps possible > that because of the new metadata that the metadata=1.2 array won't be > recognized under Squeeze. I don't know. I haven't been in that > situation yet. I think that would be good though because it would > mean that they would just look like raw disks again without needing to > stop the array, if it never got started. Then you could partition and > so forth. The future is hard to see here. > > So that is my advice. If the new array is running then I would stop > it. (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb > into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1. Then create the array > using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions. Then decide how to make use > of it. > > Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you > also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to > assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot. (Saying that > mostly for people who find this in the archive later.) > > Bob > Thanks, Bob What is the command to rebuild initrd? From what directory? Just mostly for people who find this in the archive later. 8-) Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117151918.6acbb...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: Lenny - xvinfo: No Adaptors present.. No XVideo
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:12:35AM EST, Camaleón wrote: [..] > Okay, just remember Squeeze uses a different set of driver (nouveau) than > lenny (nv), it is possible that you don't need to tewak anything there. Thanks, I'll remember this thread when I'm ready to switch to squeeze. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117213247.GA11185@pavo.local
Debugging Dovecot and Sieves
Hi all,
In short, I'm trying to use sieve to filter my mail in a dpkg-supplied
dovecot/postfix virtual mailbox setup on a lenny machine. I can't find
anything to suggest that sieve's being used (or even loaded) at all,
and I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong.
I've got this in my /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf:
protocol lda {
mail_plugins = cmusieve
}
plugin {
sieve = /etc/dovecot/sieves/%u.sieve
}
And I've got /etc/dovecot/sieve.default:
require ["fileinto", "envelope", "subaddress"];
if envelope :detail "to" "test"{
fileinto "test";
}
then I run
echo "woo. test" | mail -s "Testing" email+t...@address.com
And the email doesn't get filtered, it's just dropped into the inbox
(I've already created a 'test' folder in a mail client). I was under the
impression that on first use the sieve file should be compiled into
some form of non-ascii file, but I can't find trace of that, so I'm
guessing it's not being parsed at all.
On the other hand, it does get dropped into the em...@address.com
inbox, so I'm fairly satisfied that Postfix is getting its bit right,
and Dovecot is correctly interpreting the local part of the address.
I can't find anything to indicate why the sieve's not being invoked, or
even anything logging its attempts to run it - I'm concerned I might not
have the cmusieve plugin available, but I can't find a way of getting a
list of available plugins out of dovecot.
I've put the output of dovecot -a at
http://avi.co/stuff/dovecot-a
And I'm running version 1.0.15
Can anyone offer any guidance as to how I can diagnose and fix this?
Thanks!
--
Avi
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Re: Squeeze and Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Pro 4000
Slobodan, From: =?UTF-8?B?U2xvYm9kYW4gQWxla3NpxIc=?= Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:25:23 +0100 > I own a Logitech QuickCamPro and it doesn't work with Squeeze, any other > people who have the same problem or no problem with it ?! In case it is any help, the Quickcam Pro 5000 is listed in http://www.ideasonboard.org/uvc/ . I've never tried a Logitech camera. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056881.54698.39659@heaviside.invalid
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:02:15 -0500 (EST), frank thyes wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know >>> about >>> things like >>> >>> dmesg|less >>> >>> and >>> >>> less /var/log/syslog >>> >>> but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup >>> issues a message during boot that goes something like this: >>> >>> Setting up console font and keymap >>> >>> and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. >>> Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup >>> kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't >>> work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. >>> >>> On some hardware platforms, such as s390, when running in a >>> virtual machine under z/VM, I can capture the console boot messages by >>> "spooling the virtual console". But on other platforms, such as >>> i386, I do not know of a way to capture all the boot messages. Does >>> anybody know of a way? (I am running Debian Squeeze.) >> >> /etc/default/bootlogd >> >> Set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=YES and examine /var/log/boot or dmesg after >> rebooting. > > Hmm. Well, that helps. dmesg still does not contain the message from > console-setup, but /var/log/boot now does. I'm not sure if I needed > to rebuild my initial RAM file system image after making the above > change, but I did anyway for good measure. > > Still, I was hoping for all boot messages in a single file somewhere. > /var/log/boot starts with > > Setting parameters of disc: (none). > > This is about three lines prior to > > Checking root file system...fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 > > All boot messages prior to this point are not included in /var/log/boot. > Is there any way to get *all* messages actually written to the console > during boot in a single file somewhere? The closest to what you're looking for is to add "debug" to the boot command line to have your initrd's "/init" run with "set -x" and have its output saved to "/dev/.initramfs/initramfs.debug". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTinXCJycZrzPuFwpE-62=D-CTZQ0KoW=al7fd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:03:27 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > T o n g wrote: >> Camaleón wrote: >> > What I can't see is why this logging facility is not enabled by >> > default. I also think it should be kept in a unique file, instead to >> > be split in "/ var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/boot", IMO it would be >> > easier to read, interpret and debug... >> >> Strongly agree. > > There is a wishlist bug in the BTS for this: > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=232569 Thanks for the link. I know the bug is very old but anyway, I've added my comments there. > Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:43:44 +0100 The reason bootlogd is off, is > > that it is buggy and doesn't work on all systems. So, it will remain > > off for the foreseeable future. It will likely even be replaced by > > another solution entirely. > > After the Squeeze release seems like a good time to visit that issue > again. It would be useful. Yes, and I hope "bootlogd" is nowadays (7 years later) working okay. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.20.57...@gmail.com
Re: Keyboard freezing/repeating endlessly
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:04:54 -0800, Joe Riel wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:35:50 -0800 Joe Riel wrote: > >> A followup. Yesterday I installed the nvidia driver, replacing the >> (default) nouveau driver. So far the keyboard has not locked up, >> however, given its random nature, there hasn't been enough time to >> conclude that the problem is solved. If it runs for a few days with no >> lockups (I've never gone more than 2 days without one), I'll submit a >> bug report against the nouveau driver. > > So much for that...just had another lockup. Nothing in Xorg.0.log. The > following tidbit is in syslog: > > Jan 17 10:50:42 gauss kernel: [48543.711837] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed > (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0). > Jan 17 10:50:42 gauss kernel: [48543.711842] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 > ' to make it known. > Jan 17 11:17:01 gauss /USR/SBIN/CRON[6167]: (root) CMD (cd / && run-parts > --report /etc/cron.hourly) > > The atkbd message occured at least 15 minutes before the lockup. The > cron job occurred near the time of the lockout; I'll keep track of that > in the future. > > Not sure how to file a useful Debian bug; what package would this apply? > If I knew that ... As keyboard is the "non-working" element here, I would fill a bug report against "x11-xkb-utils". Do not worry if this is correct/wrong assignation, if someone at BTS thinks it should be assigned to another package, he/she will take the proper steps to jump it in there :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.20.54...@gmail.com
Re (7): OpenVPN server mode usage.
From: Mike Bird Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 10:42:45 -0800 > Your config works without "mode server". Thanks. One additional revision appears necessary. The man page for OpenVPN has the heading "VPN Address Setup" with three examples. Each of these examples has a --remote parameter on each end of the tunnel. I assumed that a --remote parameter is essential in every configuration. Not so. My tunnel now works with remote specified only in the system with the dynamic address. If OpenVPN restarts in the system with the static address, then the tunnel will be broken; but apparently this is addressed by use of ping parameters. Say for example, "ping 120" on the statically addressed end and "ping-restart 130" on the dynamically addressed end. The dynamic ip end must listen for pings and restart when they fail; I do not understand why the dynamic ip should send pings. The tunnel works again but I have yet to prove the ping-restart capability. Thanks again, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056881.50567.39655@heaviside.invalid
Re: Keyboard freezing/repeating endlessly
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:35:50 -0800 Joe Riel wrote: > A followup. Yesterday I installed the nvidia driver, > replacing the (default) nouveau driver. So far the > keyboard has not locked up, however, given its > random nature, there hasn't been enough time to > conclude that the problem is solved. If it runs > for a few days with no lockups (I've never gone more > than 2 days without one), I'll submit a bug report > against the nouveau driver. So much for that...just had another lockup. Nothing in Xorg.0.log. The following tidbit is in syslog: Jan 17 10:50:42 gauss kernel: [48543.711837] atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x0 on isa0060/serio0). Jan 17 10:50:42 gauss kernel: [48543.711842] atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 00 ' to make it known. Jan 17 11:17:01 gauss /USR/SBIN/CRON[6167]: (root) CMD ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly) The atkbd message occured at least 15 minutes before the lockup. The cron job occurred near the time of the lockout; I'll keep track of that in the future. Not sure how to file a useful Debian bug; what package would this apply? If I knew that ... -- Joe Riel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117120454.1387145d@gauss
Re: Tracking boot messages
T o n g wrote: > Camaleón wrote: > > What I can't see is why this logging facility is not enabled by default. > > I also think it should be kept in a unique file, instead to be split in > > "/ var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/boot", IMO it would be easier to read, > > interpret and debug... > > Strongly agree. There is a wishlist bug in the BTS for this: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=232569 Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 16:43:44 +0100 > The reason bootlogd is off, is that it is buggy and doesn't work > on all systems. So, it will remain off for the foreseeable future. > It will likely even be replaced by another solution entirely. After the Squeeze release seems like a good time to visit that issue again. It would be useful. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
Jack Schneider wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new disk > > array to the LVM volume group on the above array? If so then you are > > not done yet. The LVM volume group won't be able to assemble without > > the new disk. If you did then you need to fix up LVM next. >> > NO! I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM.. So that is not a > problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed.. Oh good. Then you are good to go. Run these commands to stop the arrays and to reassemble them with the new names. mdadm --stop /dev/md125 mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 mdadm --stop /dev/126 mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 Then try rebooting to the system. I think at that point that all should be okay and that it should boot up into the previous system. > Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you > and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all will > be well.. I have my fingers crossed for you that it will all be okay. > I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for your > response and then go!!! Please go ahead and do the above commands to rename the arrays and to reboot to the previous system. I believe that should work. Hope so. These things can be finicky though. > One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm > v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed > the md names. Does this matter Yes. I am a little worried about that problem too. But we were at a good stopping point and I didn't want to get ahead of things. But let's assume that the above renaming of the raid arrays works and you can boot to your system again. Then what should be done about the new disks? Let me talk about the new disks. But hold off working this part of the problem until you have the first part done. Just do one thing at a time. /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd This was created using newer metadata. I think that is going to be a problem for Lenny/Sqeeze. It says 1.2 but Lenny/Squeeze is 0.90. (A major difference is where the metadata is located. 1.0 is in a similar location to 0.90 but 1.1 and 1.2 use locations near the start of the device.) Plus you assigned the entire drive (/dev/sdb) instead of using a partition for it (/dev/sdb1). I personally don't prefer that and always set up using a partition instead of the whole disk. I am not sure the best course of action for the new disks. I suggest stopping the new array, partitioning the drives to a partion instead of the raw disk, then recreating it using the newly created partitions. Do that under your (hopefully now booting) Squeeze system and then you are assured of compatibility. It is perhaps possible that because of the new metadata that the metadata=1.2 array won't be recognized under Squeeze. I don't know. I haven't been in that situation yet. I think that would be good though because it would mean that they would just look like raw disks again without needing to stop the array, if it never got started. Then you could partition and so forth. The future is hard to see here. So that is my advice. If the new array is running then I would stop it. (mdadm --stop /dev/md127) Then partition it, partition /dev/sdb into /dev/sdb1 and /dev/sdd into /dev/sdd1. Then create the array using the new sdb1 and sdd1 partitions. Then decide how to make use of it. Note that if you add new disk to the lvm root volume group then you also need to rebuild the initrd or your system won't be able to assemble the array at boot time and will fail to boot. (Saying that mostly for people who find this in the archive later.) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. 2nd Corrections!!!!!
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 07:19:03 -0600 Jack Schneider wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:42:49 -0700 > Bob Proulx wrote: > > > Jack, > > > > With your pastebin information and the mdstat information (that last > > information in your mail and pastebins was critical good stuff) and > > I found this old posting from you too: :-) > > > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/10/msg00808.html > > > > With all of that I deduce the following: > > > > /dev/md125 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm > > /dev/md126 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, > > swap, ... /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted > > > > Jack, If that is wrong please correct me. But I think that is > > right. > > > > That is Exactly correct. > > > > The mdstat data showed that the arrays are sync'd. The UUIDs are as > > follows. > > > > ARRAY /dev/md/125_0 metadata=0.90 > > UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md/126_0 > > metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1 > > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 > > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd > > > > The desired state: > > > > /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm > > /dev/md1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ... > > > > Will get to /dev/md2 later... > > > > > My thinking is that I should rerun mdadm and reassemble the arrays > > > to the original definitions... /md0 from sda1 & sdc1 > > >/md1 from sda5 & sdc5 note: sda2 > > > &sdc2 are legacy msdos extended partitions. > > > I would not build a md device with msdos extended partitions under > > > LVM2 at this time.. Agree? > > > > Agreed. You want to rename the arrays. Don't touch the msdos > > partitions. > > > > > Is the above doable? If I can figure the right mdadm > > > commands...8-) > > > > Yes. It is doable. You can rename the array. First stop the > > array. Then assemble it again with the new desired name. Here is > > what you want to do. Tom, Henrique, others, Please double check me > > on these. > > > > mdadm --stop /dev/md125 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 > > > > mdadm --stop /dev/126 > > mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 > > > > That should by itself be enough to get the arrays going. > > > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new > > disk array to the LVM volume group on the above array? If so then > > you are not done yet. The LVM volume group won't be able to > > assemble without the new disk. If you did then you need to fix up > > LVM next. > > > > NO! I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM.. So that is not > a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed.. > > > I think you should try to get back to where you were before when > > your system was working. Therefore I would remove the new disks > > from the LVM volume group. But I don't know if you did or did not > > add it yet. So I must stop here and wait for further information > > from you. > > > > > I don't know if your rescue disk has lvm automatically configured or > > not. You may need to load the device mapper module dm_mod. I don't > > know. If you do then here is a hint: > > > > modprobe dm_mod > > > > To scan for volume groups: > > > > vgscan > > > Found volume group "Speeduke" using metadata type lvm2 > > > > To activate a volume group: > > > > vgchange -ay > > 5 logical volume(s) in volume group "Speeduke" now active > > > > > To display the physical volumes associated with a volume group: > > > > pvdisplay > > > > PV Name /dev/md126 > VG Name Speeduke > > Other data ommited > > PV UUID kUoBgV-R9n6-exZ1-fdIk-aqlb-7Ue1-R3B1PD > > > > > > If the new disks haven't been added to the volume group (I am hoping > > not) then you should be home free. But if they are then I think you > > will need to remove them first. > > > > I don't know if the LVM actions above are going to be needed. I am > > just trying to proactively give some possible hints. > > > > Bob > Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all will be well.. I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for your response and then go!!! One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using md metadata v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm metadata v 1.3 which changed the md names. Does this matter Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117132946.06f98...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.
Bob, From: Bob Proulx Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 11:22:23 -0700 > Every reply of yours is starting a new thread. You can see this in > the mailing list archives. Apologies. I understand and certainly would prefer not do that. > This is an aside but why is the subject being modified with a " (#)" > before the colon in "Re:"? Converting "Re:" to "Re (5):" for this > message for example? That causes the attempt to fall back without > In-Reply-To: to grouping messages by subject to be unable to do so. I'll explain all the cases for benefit of anyone who might be interested. Some of the information at http://carnot.yi.org/NetworksPage.html might help. The simplest is when I am at home and have a direct link to the ISP and POP3 brings messages from the ISP to the home workstation, heaviside, and SMTP takes messages from heaviside to the ISP. A message from debian-user can be read as an emessage or from the Web archive. In both cases the Message-id is available and I can insert it as the value of In-reply-to in a reply. lists.debian.org uses that message-id to connect the thread. So far, so good. A second case is when I am at work and the tunnel between dalton and joule is working properly. Then POP3 brings messages from the ISP to cantor via the tunnel and SMTP takes messages to the ISP. Email works the same for cantor as for heaviside in the case above. Still good. A third case is when I am at work and the tunnel between dalton and joule is broken. Then POP3 can bring messages from the ISP through the public Internet to cantor; but the ISP will not accept a message from cantor via SMTP through the public Internet. In this case messages must be sent through the Web interface of the ISP. Presumeably it's this Web software which inserts " (#)". Now if a message is read on cantor I have difficulty. The message-id is visible on cantor but I do not know of any way to have the Web interface accept an In-reply-to parameter. That's when a new thread begins. If the tunnel is broken I could simply refrain from retrieving mail to the MUA on cantor and read all mail with the Web based interface. If a reply is created, the correct value for In-reply-to will be generated automatically. My objection is that the Web interface is unbearably slow and clumsy. The tunnel is working again now and with any luck, will continue to do so for several years. As long as the tunnel works I can connect messages properly. Is threading of messages in Debian lists explained anywhere? I've never seen an explanation. A few years ago I found how to use Message-id and In-reply-to by exploration rather than straightforward reading. Regards, ... Peter E. -- Telephone 1 360 450 2132. Shop pages http://carnot.yi.org/ accessible as long as the old drives survive. Personal pages http://members.shaw.ca/peasthope/ . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/171056881.47301.39653@heaviside.invalid
Re: [solved/workaround] Re: logcheck
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 19:34:56 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote:
> On 2011.01.17. 16:04, Camaleón wrote:
(..)
>> Why e-mails to "root" are not delivered to the current and updated host
>> domain? Check your alises database ("cat /etc/alisases") and your
>> hostname (hostname -d).
> SENDMAILTO="logcheck"
>
> in aliases
>
> logcheck:root
> root:szun
> szun:[where i wanted to send the logcheck mai]
>
> so i changed the sendmailto= to my destination email, and voila, it
> comes with the newdomain!
Were you using the "/etc/aliases" file before making the domain name
change? Or to make it short, where did you exactly changed the "old"
domain name, what file did you edit?
> any suugestions?
Hum... I dunno how Exim works with this file, but in Postfix you have to
reload the "/etc/aliases" database as soon as you edit it to update the
records.
What e-mail server/facility are you using? :-?
Greetings,
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Re: looking for a clock, minimum and can play sound
T o n g wrote: > The following shell script will work: > > -- > #!/bin/sh > sleep $1 > beep > - > > name it 'alarm' and 'alarm 30' will alarm you after 30 seconds. That works if you know how many seconds to wait. Let's say that it is Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:08:08 -0700 and you want an alarm to trigger at 3pm local time at Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:00:00 -0700. Then you know that you can sleep for 10312 seconds. alarm-sleep 10312 That is great. But calculating that value when you are sleepy isn't for everyone. Instead I would program that into the script to do for you. Use GNU date's --date extension to calculate the date from a given date string. until="3pm" now=$(date +%s) then=$(date -d "$until" +%s) delay=$(( $then - $now )) sleep $delay Then you can say something like: sleep-until-do 3pm some command with args here Below is a script I call sleep-until-do which sleeps until the given time and then invokes the given command. I use it to turn on the radio to listen to the news at the top of the hour. Perhaps you will find it useful too. Bob #!/bin/sh # Copyright 2009, 2010, 2011 Bob Proulx # You may freely use, modify and/or distribute this file. if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then echo "Error: Missing time argument" 1>&2 exit 1 fi if [ $# -lt 2 ]; then echo "Error: Missing do-command argument" 1>&2 exit 1 fi until=$1 shift echo "Info: $until interpreted as:" $(date -R -d "$until") now=$(date +%s) then=$(date -d "$until" +%s) delay=$(( $then - $now )) if [ $delay -gt 2 ]; then echo Sleeping $delay seconds... sleep $delay else echo Info: Time has passed. fi echo Invoking: "$@" exec "$@" signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: networking
On 01/16/2011 07:20 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Osamu Aoki wrote: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#list-of-stanzas-in-eni (I read the source to ome up with this table). An excellent reference! Thanks for writing that document. And for pointing it out to us. Bob +1 Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3496ac.5080...@gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:27:36 +, T o n g wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:17:11 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> Another thing to try: >> >> http://blog.fealdia.org/2008/08/11/backing-up-gmail-on-debian-using- > isync/ > > Thanks for the info. I skimmed through the man page, but wasn't able to > find out how can I backup only a certain folders (labels in gmail term). > I suppose it is not the pattern(s) for "mailbox", which means something > else to me. I have not read the full manual for "isync", but by giving a fast reading to the above URL, I think the folder to backup is defined using this variable in the configuration file: *** Master ":gmail-username:[Gmail]/All Mail" *** That stanza seems to set the "All" folder as the source of the data to be backed up but I think (I "hope" :-P) it can be changed to whatever you want. >> But I use the manual way and try to keep the mailbox folders in a good >> shape to avoid having lots (thounsands!) of message is just one >> "label". > > Could you share how you do it the manual way please? Oh, I use Iceweasel for that task (create a new Gmail account and copy/ paste the e-mails in the fodlers I want to back up). I also have Mutt installed and I use it for reading Gmail's e-mails but still have not found the way (nor had the time) to see how to get a local copy of some folders via IMAP :-) >> Split messages by years/topics is the clue to have a "sane" Gmail :-) > > Is it ok to do it *afterward*? I.e., is it OK to, at the beginning of > the year, do something like > > mv my_important_mails my_important_mails_2010 mkdir my_important_mails > > and not break anything? All the Gmail's messages are stored in the folder named "All", so you are only "virtually moving" -or in Gmail's parlance, "tagging"- them to another place... so no, there should be no problems at all, in fact, I opened my Gmail account in 2006/2007 and created/moved the e-mails in their respective folders afterwards. IIRC (as I said, I've created the sub-folders back in 2009 so things could have changed a bit since then), you have to do it within their webmail interface (I mean, create the "labels") but after that you can access the labels/subfolders from any standard e-mail client (I've tested in Mutt and Iceweasel). > Moreover, how can I view those folders in thunderbird? (I was able to > view local mailbox files before, but somehow I can't do it now) You only have to create a new IMAP account in Iceweasel/Thunderbird for your Gmail account and then you can access your Gmail's folder/sub- folders as in any other IMAP server. What I'm not so sure about is if by creating a new subfolder using Thunderbird it will be visible/available inside the webmail interface, maybe someone can confirm/deny this point :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.19.13...@gmail.com
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:09 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: > Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Sure. You are more than welcome to try and use Debian. > 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) Unity has to my knowledge not even been packaged for Debian [4]. Given that Debian uses the Gnome desktop as standard desktop if you install the "desktop" task you will more or less end up with the Gnome version in testing [1] at the time of the release. I would like to note that it is easily possible to install *any* desktop environment or window manager on Debian (and probably Ubuntu) and that you don't have to use the default one. I typically don't install any tasks when I install a new system and add additional packages after the initial minimal installation. > 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to > change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the > kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built, > but that's OK. You can not transform an Ubuntu system to a Debian system and you have to install Debian from scratch if you want to use it. Given that Squeeze will be released soonish I would recommend to install it instead of Lenny (on your personal machine!): http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ http://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/installmanual > 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in > "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the > commercial/proprietary video drivers? I understand that nouveau is > providing reasonable 2D for Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D > support that seems available only from the commercial driver. Nvidia drivers are available in Debian's non-free archive and well supported. 1. Enabling non-free sources in /etc/apt/sources.list 2. Installing kernel headers for your kernel: "aptitude install linux-headers-2.6-`uname -r |sed 's,.*-,,'` 3. Installing the drivers (DKMS flavour [2]) nvidia-glx nvidia-xconfig 4. Generating a suitable Xorg configuration file nvidia-xconfig -o /etc/X11/xorg.conf > I'm not trolling, not trying for a flame war here. If you like Unity, > more power to you. If you like Ubuntu, OK, it has been good for me > too. Your question was not perceived as trolling. I would like to point out that you can probably install a different desktop environment or window manager of your liking on Ubuntu as well and that you therefore don't necessarily need to install Debian. If you, however, decide to do so: Welcome and may you enjoy your stay! Further information on Debian can be found in the Debian Reference [3]. [1] See http://www.debian.org/releases/ for a short overview of "stable", "testing" and "unstable" [2] http://pkg-dkms.alioth.debian.org/ [3] http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ [4] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609278 -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Mon January 17 2011 10:36:57 Camaleón wrote: > * gnome-core = GNOME installation designed to fit on one CD That is a CHANGE to the definition of gnome-core, which affects many users who have gnome-core installed but not gnome-desktop- -environment. Here is the Lenny definition of the package: These are the core components of the GNOME Desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop. . This package depends on a basic set of programs, including a file manager, an image viewer, a text editor and other basic tools. A DD changed gnome-core's dependencies instead of making the same changes to the CD's package list, and then was too lazy to fix his mistake. And thus one lazy DD creates headaches for thousands of sysadmins. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101171101.51022.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On 2011-01-17 19:09 +0100, Paul Johnson wrote: > On several laptops and desktops, I made the transition from Fedora -> > Ubuntu about 3 years ago. I did that mainly because Fedora updates > kept "breaking" the Nvidia proprietary video drivers and the > developers openly said that they didn't really care whether or not > their distribution had drivers that could work with the hardware. I'm pretty sure Fedora cares about good hardware support, but it's true that they do not held back new kernels and X versions to benefit proprietary drivers; this is not their goal. > Ubuntu developers at least recognized the problem and have a > repository for commercial/addon drivers and they try to make sure the > OS doesn't break the video drivers. At least in released versions, yes. Development versions will usually break proprietary drivers. > Anyway, I just learned that in the next Ubuntu, they are adopting the > "Unity Desktop". I did some checking on that and I totally hate it. I > hate Mac GUI and am disgusted that the free/open movement pushes to > imitate it. If I liked the look/feel of it, then I might be willing > to put up with the pains of transition in the next Ubuntu, but, well, > I don't. They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my > experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration > changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work > (maybe I'm too skeptical). > > Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? You can install Debian instead of Ubuntu or along with it. > 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) AFAIK, there are no unity packages in Debian yet, so you're safe for the moment. ;-) > 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to > change my apt repositories and then do what else? That will almost certainly lead to a broken system, since Ubuntu has diverged far enough from Debian to make "side-grading" by just changes sources.list and running "apt-get dist-upgrade" a very challenging task, to put it mildly. Ubuntu has many packages in newer versions than Debian, packages some important packages (e.g. udev) very differently, uses a different init system etc. Don't even try that, instead install Debian on a different partition and remove Ubuntu when (if?) you're comfortable with Debian. > 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in > "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the > commercial/proprietary video drivers? Depends on which Debian version you intend to use: - In stable, the proprietary drivers never break. They may have security flaws, though. Those can and will not be fixed. If your hardware is new, it may not be supported by either free or proprietary drivers. - In testing, at least the Nvidia drivers had been broken most of the time during the last few years. The packaging seems to have improved in the last few months though. - In unstable, the Nvidia drivers work most of the time, but you have to build your own kernel module. Thanks to dkms this should be rather easy these days. The legacy drivers will break more often, since Nvidia does not update them timely for new kernels and Xorg releases. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fwsrmk7c@turtle.gmx.de
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:09:27 -0600, Paul Johnson wrote: (...) > Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Yes, why not? :-? > 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) I hope not, but I fairly doubt you don't have the chance to use the default GNOME desktop within Ubuntu, maybe not "by default" but anything is changeable... > 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to > change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the > kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built, > but that's OK. I would better install it from scratch, you will feel even more "purifed" (just kidding, but only in the last sentence) ;-) > 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in "Nvidia > Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the commercial/proprietary > video drivers? I understand that nouveau is providing reasonable 2D for > Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D support that seems available > only from the commercial driver. If you keep "stable", no, no kernel update will break your nvidia drivers (the open source nor the closed source ones). If you decide to go with "testing", the answer should be... "maybe"? If you are unsure about the change and worried on hardware detection, I would go first with a LiveCD and/or installing Debian into a virtual machine. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.18.45...@gmail.com
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Mon January 17 2011 09:26:17 Hal Vaughan wrote: > This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a > good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws > it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. Ill-considered decisions seem to have become increasingly prevalent among a small subset of Debian Developers. For example, a critical but easily fixed bug was recently closed without fix or comment, apparently based on personalities rather than technicalities[1]. Fortunately the ill-considered decisions of this minority are public, which makes them available for consideration by their potential future employers. Hopefully this mechanism will correct the problem. --Mike Bird [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=7;bug=610185 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101171044.30898.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Carl Fink wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:26:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >> This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes >> a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer >> throws it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. >> >> I think it's a legitimate concern and just because one person pointed it >> out does not mean it only effects one person. > > It's ridiculous, and as you write unfortunately typical. I recall getting > similar "Sorry, I don't care" stuff from developers as far back as when > StarOffice was first freed. > > What to do? Well, in my case, I switch to different FOSS. So ... I guess I > move to something other than Debian. Oh well. I rarely file bug reports for FOSS anymore due to responses like this. But I have started communicating with people in some projects when something is wrong (either on the forum or on mailing lists). I tried to explain an issue when I filed a bug with OOo about margins, but the responses showed they were not concerned with listening to the issue, only with saying, "We're right, so go away." At one point I was trying to design a web interface that would be easy to customize for LIRC so you could control your home devices through LIRC from a webpage you could pull up on your smart phone or on a PDA and asked for help. I got nothing. I asked again, knowing that the people who were behind LIRC were on the list. I finally left a message saying, "I wanted to add to the project and asked for help several times and was ignored or told to RTFM when I had stated the info wasn't in TFM. I've scrapped my project and LIRC devs might want to consider not ignoring help requests in the future." I watched and saw everyone say, "Well, he must have asked for help wrong." (Hey, I've read ESR's "How to Ask for Help" and found most of it common sense and I follow it.) Not one looked for my original requests to see if I was rude or anything. I've been in discussions on MacPorts for KDE on OS X and found some helpful people, but I have to say some devs are too busy being right to listen. I could list more, but I've seen enough cases where bug reports are met with dismissals (and often rude or condescending ones, like the one cited early in this thread) that I don't file bug reports for FOSS unless I know the project and know it's worth the time to file one. I think this is a classic case of some devs being so into themselves and their projects that they don't realize they come across as Sheldon Cooper when they ignore others. I retired at 45, thanks to my business, which was based on my own custom software. The first program I released to run on my clients' computers was in Java, within 6 months after I learned Java and OOP. In the next 18 months that version was in use, I had fewer than 5 bug reports (because I tested the hell out of it before releasing it). But I had to respond to each bug report and usually had the fix out within 12 hours. I would have lost a lot of money if I had been as dismissive of bug reports as some developers are. Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0d534540-eabb-498a-b859-30386e01b...@halblog.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
Stephen Powell a écrit : > >> Set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=YES and examine /var/log/boot or dmesg after >> rebooting. > > Hmm. Well, that helps. dmesg still does not contain the message from > console-setup Of course not. dmesg displays only kernel messages. This is completely different from messages displayed on the console by any process. You could even set /proc/sys/kernel/printk to not display kernel messages on the console. > Still, I was hoping for all boot messages in a single file somewhere. > /var/log/boot starts with > >Setting parameters of disc: (none). > > This is about three lines prior to > >Checking root file system...fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 > > All boot messages prior to this point are not included in /var/log/boot. Obviously bootlogd can record only messages which are displayed while it is running. See /etc/rcS.d/ for the initscripts order. Specifically, it won't record messages displayed in the initramfs, before initscripts are started. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d348c93.3010...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:26:17 -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: (I'm going to play here the role of the devil's advocate... oh, well) > This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone > makes a good point in a bug report and the > programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his face, which allows > the bug to be closed out quickly. The more voices defending a point of view, the better for the maintainer/ developer "in power" to revisit his/her policy for the metapackages involved. But I can only see "one" guy (the OP) in that bug report complaining about the problem he has detected... > I think it's a legitimate concern and just because one person pointed it > out does not mean it only effects one person. You also need to care about the DD outlook and his point of view, explained there (copy/paste from message #31): *** (...) in squeeze, the gnome-session package now depends on the basic components that are actually needed for running a GNOME session. Since this change was made, I hadn’t known what to do of gnome-core, as it had became obsolete. The size issue of fitting GNOME on the first CD gave an obvious answer to what this metapackage should become. So in short: * gnome-core = GNOME installation designed to fit on one CD * gnome-desktop-environment ≈ GNOME as defined by upstream * gnome = full GNOME installation for the default installation *** This approach can be further discussed, of course, and additional/ alternative solutions could have been presented in the bug report, but again, there are no more complaints on developers' decission :-( (note that everybody can reopen a bug) > Yes, I care about it. I usually run Debian for headless systems that > don't use X or a DE, but when I'm using a GUI on Debian, and need to use > a Gnome program, there's much more sense to it requiring and installing > the bare minimum of what it needs than installing a lot of bloat. Isn't > the "Debian way" more about allowing customization and forcing as little > as possible on the users or sys-admins? I would like to stick up for Debian here. Debian is a distribution that tends to split packages a lot (and I mean *a lot*) which I really think _is a good practice_ because it gives both, plain users (by means of metapackages) and admins (by cherry picking just the needed packages) the full control on their systems. And Debian's GNOME (precisely GNOME) has 3 different metapackages that can be used to get this DE installed... three options!! that is unthinkable in other distributions available out there which just provide "one" DE metapackage and afterwards the user has to remove the components he/she does not want at all. With this writing I only wanted to note that sometimes we (users) are requesting too much from developers/maintainers and while OTOH complaining about a decission is the right path to go (at least IMO) we should also show a bit more empathy and put ourselves in the place of the person that is putting three different packaging flavors (three different alternatives) for we (the users) to decide what to install. I'm sure metapackages can be improved (of course!) and I would also like to see the installer asking me what e-mail server I prefer instead installing Exim by default but again, there is the "preseed" option and there is the option of adding Postfix later, so that is fine with me. I also like the fact that GNOME is the default DE in Debian but here we also have the KDE team making a good job in delivering KDE users the better experience with this DE. In brief, I think Debian delivers a quasi perfect 50/50 ratio between user's own preferences and easy customization. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.18.36...@gmail.com
[solved/workaround] Re: logcheck
Hi!
SENDMAILTO="logcheck"
in aliases
logcheck:root
root:szun
szun:[where i wanted to send the logcheck mai]
so i changed the sendmailto= to my destination email, and voila, it
comes with the newdomain!
any suugestions?
On 2011.01.17. 16:04, Camaleón wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:41:11 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote:
I am using logcheck on my squeeze, i have changed the domain name of the
machine from olddomain.com to newdomain.com, everything works fine, but
logcheck still sends the mails with r...@olddomain.com. How/where can i
a change the sender of logcheck emails?
In the configuration file "/etc/logcheck/logcheck.conf" there should be a
variable "SENDMAILTO=" that you can adjust.
But the main question still remains (unless you had manually changed the
default settings of that variable and now forgot to update it ;-P)...
Why e-mails to "root" are not delivered to the current and updated host
domain? Check your alises database ("cat /etc/alisases") and your
hostname (hostname -d).
Greetings,
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Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
> Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? Sure! > 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) No. Well...as far as I can see into the future Debian won't be defaulting to it. It might be included in some repo somewhere down the road. If I recall correctly there was a decent discussion on Unity and Debian here on this list sometime at the end of last year. > 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to > change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the > kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built, > but that's OK. When I transitioned from Ubuntu to Debian this was 4 years ago and I just backed up my data to DVD, did a clean install, and then restored my data. Not sure if this answer helps you much... > 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in > "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the > commercial/proprietary video drivers? I understand that nouveau is > providing reasonable 2D for Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D > support that seems available only from the commercial driver. I did not experience problems using the Nvidia driver and updating Debian. -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295289250.4969.16.camel@Axon.8EEWS
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:26:52 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > It is totally unsupported and may break everything but every time we've > converted a system from Ubuntu to Debian in this way it has worked fine. Most important underlying requirement is the compatibility (e.g. glibc, etc). The convoluted Ubuntu versioning always makes my head spin. Does anyone have some kind of rule of thumb of which Ubuntu versions are compatible with Debian testing/sid? Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih221l$u56$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: GMail backup on debian
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:17:11 +, Camaleón wrote: > Another thing to try: > > http://blog.fealdia.org/2008/08/11/backing-up-gmail-on-debian-using- isync/ Thanks for the info. I skimmed through the man page, but wasn't able to find out how can I backup only a certain folders (labels in gmail term). I suppose it is not the pattern(s) for "mailbox", which means something else to me. > But I use the manual way and try to keep the mailbox folders in a good > shape to avoid having lots (thounsands!) of message is just one "label". Could you share how you do it the manual way please? > Split messages by years/topics is the clue to have a "sane" Gmail :-) Is it ok to do it *afterward*? I.e., is it OK to, at the beginning of the year, do something like mv my_important_mails my_important_mails_2010 mkdir my_important_mails and not break anything? Moreover, how can I view those folders in thunderbird? (I was able to view local mailbox files before, but somehow I can't do it now) Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih21mn$u56$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
On Mon January 17 2011 10:09:27 Paul Johnson wrote: > 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) I don't think so. > 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to > change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the > kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built, > but that's OK. Make sure you have a complete backup before you start. On RAID1 systems we also degrade the array and do the conversion on one mirror so that we can quickly switch back if the conversion fails. Usually we uninstall the desktop, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, and then install the Debian desktop. It is totally unsupported and may break everything but every time we've converted a system from Ubuntu to Debian in this way it has worked fine. > 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in > "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the > commercial/proprietary video drivers? I understand that nouveau is > providing reasonable 2D for Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D > support that seems available only from the commercial driver. Non-free nVidia works great in Debian, both Lenny and Squeeze, both regular kernel module and DKMS (recommended). --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101171026.52916.mgb-deb...@yosemite.net
transition from Ubuntu -> Debian to avoid Unity Desktop?
Greetings. On several laptops and desktops, I made the transition from Fedora -> Ubuntu about 3 years ago. I did that mainly because Fedora updates kept "breaking" the Nvidia proprietary video drivers and the developers openly said that they didn't really care whether or not their distribution had drivers that could work with the hardware. Ubuntu developers at least recognized the problem and have a repository for commercial/addon drivers and they try to make sure the OS doesn't break the video drivers. Anyway, I just learned that in the next Ubuntu, they are adopting the "Unity Desktop". I did some checking on that and I totally hate it. I hate Mac GUI and am disgusted that the free/open movement pushes to imitate it. If I liked the look/feel of it, then I might be willing to put up with the pains of transition in the next Ubuntu, but, well, I don't. They say they will have other desktop options, but, in my experience, it will be tough to avoid the packaging and configuration changes that they enforce on everybody in order to make Unity work (maybe I'm too skeptical). Can I escape Ubuntu to Debian? 1. Is Debian defaulting to the Unity Desktop too? (please say no) 2. How can I make a transition to Debian from Ubuntu? So I need to change my apt repositories and then do what else? If glibc or the kernel headers are new, I'll have to recompile everything I've built, but that's OK. 3. If I make this change Ubuntu -> Debian, will I end up back in "Nvidia Hell" where the OS updates frequently break the commercial/proprietary video drivers? I understand that nouveau is providing reasonable 2D for Nvidia cards, but my job requires the 3D support that seems available only from the commercial driver. I'm not trolling, not trying for a flame war here. If you like Unity, more power to you. If you like Ubuntu, OK, it has been good for me too. PJ -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 University of Kansas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=UV6RVEyVK+KC6=2vwbpls2jf14nghdhivk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:26:17PM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote: > This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes > a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer > throws it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. > > I think it's a legitimate concern and just because one person pointed it > out does not mean it only effects one person. It's ridiculous, and as you write unfortunately typical. I recall getting similar "Sorry, I don't care" stuff from developers as far back as when StarOffice was first freed. What to do? Well, in my case, I switch to different FOSS. So ... I guess I move to something other than Debian. Oh well. -- Carl Fink nitpick...@nitpicking.com Read my blog at blog.nitpicking.com. Reviews! Observations! Stupid mistakes you can correct! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117174859.ga20...@panix.com
Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth
Hi Camaleon, Does "ifdown eth0&& ifup eth0" restore the connectivity? Didn't try. If you are running lenny, I would try with an updated updated kernel (if this can be an option at your side) :-? It's squeeze. I have been waiting since 2.6.26 for a kernel fix. I might try 2.6.37. Linux groucho 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 03:40:32 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux Unfortunately it's an ITX board without any pci slots so replacing the card is not an option. Greetings, Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih1ub5$mc0$1...@news.m-online.net
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Jan 17, 2011, at 12:16 PM, T o n g wrote: > On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:08:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: > I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not use them. > > Me too. > >>> Basically because gnome-desktop-environment is too big to fit on CD 1. >>> See bug #608098 for more information, especially >>> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608098#31. > > That seems to me an absurd reason. > > So only 3 of us in the entire Debian world think this way? Re-quoting OP > of bug 608098: > > ,- > | The massive migration of dependencies from > | gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core is extremely undesirable, > | because it spoils the usefulness that gnome-core used to have in > | pulling just enough packages to have a basic GNOME > | environment. Now, instead, it pulls WAY too many packages and > | leaves the user without any simple method for installing basic > | GNOME components. > `- > > I still think it make perfect sense, and a legitimated request. > >> Creating a new package to depend upon evolution and ephiphany and >> gnome-core would be a less harmful solution. > > Yeah, but look at what the maintainer said: > > ,- > | The gnome-core package is not here to fulfill the needs of a given > | user. > | > | If you need a specific set of packages, please make your metapackages > | yourself. > `- > > well... what I can do, huh? > Nobody care about this? This is an example of why I've been moving away from FOSS. Someone makes a good point in a bug report and the programmer/developer/maintainer throws it back in his face, which allows the bug to be closed out quickly. I think it's a legitimate concern and just because one person pointed it out does not mean it only effects one person. Yes, I care about it. I usually run Debian for headless systems that don't use X or a DE, but when I'm using a GUI on Debian, and need to use a Gnome program, there's much more sense to it requiring and installing the bare minimum of what it needs than installing a lot of bloat. Isn't the "Debian way" more about allowing customization and forcing as little as possible on the users or sys-admins? Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d0d337f4-b065-4f51-94e3-2d0c2e16e...@halblog.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 16:34:21 +, Camaleón wrote: > What I can't see is why this logging facility is not enabled by default. > I also think it should be kept in a unique file, instead to be split in > "/ var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/boot", IMO it would be easier to read, > interpret and debug... Strongly agree. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih1u3b$fih$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Why is Evolution and Epiphany now a part of gnome-core?
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 13:08:36 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: >> > I'm running Debian Squeeze, and I have only gnome-core installed so >> > that I would not have Evolution or Epiphany installed since I do not >> > use them. Me too. >> Basically because gnome-desktop-environment is too big to fit on CD 1. >> See bug #608098 for more information, especially >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=608098#31. That seems to me an absurd reason. So only 3 of us in the entire Debian world think this way? Re-quoting OP of bug 608098: ,- | The massive migration of dependencies from | gnome-desktop-environment to gnome-core is extremely undesirable, | because it spoils the usefulness that gnome-core used to have in | pulling just enough packages to have a basic GNOME | environment. Now, instead, it pulls WAY too many packages and | leaves the user without any simple method for installing basic | GNOME components. `- I still think it make perfect sense, and a legitimated request. > Creating a new package to depend upon evolution and ephiphany and > gnome-core would be a less harmful solution. Yeah, but look at what the maintainer said: ,- | The gnome-core package is not here to fulfill the needs of a given | user. | | If you need a specific set of packages, please make your metapackages | yourself. `- well... what I can do, huh? Nobody care about this? -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih1ti3$fih$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Tracking boot messages
Connect a serial cable to your console port and use minicom on you laptop to save the output ;) Frank Von meinem iPhone gesendet Am 17.01.2011 um 17:43 schrieb Stephen Powell : > On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:02:15 -0500 (EST), frank thyes wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: >>> Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know >>> about >>> things like >>> >>> dmesg|less >>> >>> and >>> >>> less /var/log/syslog >>> >>> but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup >>> issues a message during boot that goes something like this: >>> >>> Setting up console font and keymap >>> >>> and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. >>> Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup >>> kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't >>> work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. >>> >>> On some hardware platforms, such as s390, when running in a >>> virtual machine under z/VM, I can capture the console boot messages by >>> "spooling the virtual console". But on other platforms, such as >>> i386, I do not know of a way to capture all the boot messages. Does >>> anybody know of a way? (I am running Debian Squeeze.) >> >> /etc/default/bootlogd >> >> Set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=YES and examine /var/log/boot or dmesg after >> rebooting. > > Hmm. Well, that helps. dmesg still does not contain the message from > console-setup, but /var/log/boot now does. I'm not sure if I needed > to rebuild my initial RAM file system image after making the above > change, but I did anyway for good measure. > > Still, I was hoping for all boot messages in a single file somewhere. > /var/log/boot starts with > > Setting parameters of disc: (none). > > This is about three lines prior to > > Checking root file system...fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 > > All boot messages prior to this point are not included in /var/log/boot. > Is there any way to get *all* messages actually written to the console > during boot in a single file somewhere? > > -- > .''`. Stephen Powell > : :' : > `. `'` > `- > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/361746793.164047.1295282620128.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca2e52e4-7bd9-4520-9d83-d193f451d...@anotheria.net
Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 11:56:54 +0100, Klaus Pieper wrote: > using > > 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1) > > I have occasional (i.e. occuring about every 6 weeks) hangups of this > device. > Ping to and from the machine does work, but loss is over 70%. > > Any hints or workarounds? (...) Does "ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0" restore the connectivity? If you are running lenny, I would try with an updated updated kernel (if this can be an option at your side) :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.16.55...@gmail.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:02:15 -0500 (EST), frank thyes wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: >> Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know about >> things like >> >>dmesg|less >> >> and >> >>less /var/log/syslog >> >> but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup >> issues a message during boot that goes something like this: >> >>Setting up console font and keymap >> >> and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. >> Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup >> kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't >> work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. >> >> On some hardware platforms, such as s390, when running in a >> virtual machine under z/VM, I can capture the console boot messages by >> "spooling the virtual console". But on other platforms, such as >> i386, I do not know of a way to capture all the boot messages. Does >> anybody know of a way? (I am running Debian Squeeze.) > > /etc/default/bootlogd > > Set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=YES and examine /var/log/boot or dmesg after > rebooting. Hmm. Well, that helps. dmesg still does not contain the message from console-setup, but /var/log/boot now does. I'm not sure if I needed to rebuild my initial RAM file system image after making the above change, but I did anyway for good measure. Still, I was hoping for all boot messages in a single file somewhere. /var/log/boot starts with Setting parameters of disc: (none). This is about three lines prior to Checking root file system...fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 All boot messages prior to this point are not included in /var/log/boot. Is there any way to get *all* messages actually written to the console during boot in a single file somewhere? -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/361746793.164047.1295282620128.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > > Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know about > things like > > dmesg|less > > and > > less /var/log/syslog > > but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup > issues a message during boot that goes something like this: > > Setting up console font and keymap > > and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. > Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup > kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't > work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. Edit "/etc/default/bootlogd". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=Oe7uje=M9F8Q2=1pwsoltuhjxhtlfzkjp7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:53:51 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know > about things like > >dmesg|less > > and > >less /var/log/syslog > > but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup > issues a message during boot that goes something like this: > >Setting up console font and keymap > > and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. (...) (see the responses in the other user's e-mails, you have to manually enable this) What I can't see is why this logging facility is not enabled by default. I also think it should be kept in a unique file, instead to be split in "/ var/log/dmesg" and "/var/log/boot", IMO it would be easier to read, interpret and debug... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.16.34...@gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/17/2011 04:45 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail >> account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. >> However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. >> I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became >> quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single >> mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers >> preferences in evolution. >> >> What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? >> >> Thanks ! > > I use Thunderbird with several IMAP accounts, including Gmail. Moving > mail is usually a matter of drag'n'drop. I use Thunderbird's Local > Folders to copy mail into local MBX files for backups and personal archives. Just FYI, I finally decided to use thunderbird/icedove ... and it worked like a charm (well it is *much* faster) ! I do not know why evolution is so slow (this is the same DSL connection)... Thunderbird was a blast to configure (assuming you know your gmail adress...), and the only other configurations I used are described at: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=78892 eg: browser.cache.memory.capacity & mail.server.default.fetch_by_chunks Thanks everyone ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktioouwrphr2kmmp2+9an_vf9i7g1n7mxrna...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DD To a Smaller Partition
On Mon, 10 Jan 2011 02:53:09 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > btw, the best cp command for the job is cp -Ra (a for archive - maintain > all permissions - do this as root to maintain uid/gid of other > users/groups). Thanks for pointing out why "cp -r" is unacceptable. Just my added 2c... the -R is actually not necessary once the -a is specified. I.e., "cp -a" is all that you need. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ih1qgf$fih$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Tracking boot messages
Hello, Stephen Powell a écrit : > Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know about > things like > >dmesg|less > > and > >less /var/log/syslog > > but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup > issues a message during boot that goes something like this: > >Setting up console font and keymap > > and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. Try to enable bootlogd in /etc/default/bootlogd. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3468b0.4040...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: Tracking boot messages
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:53 -0500, Stephen Powell wrote: > Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know about > things like > >dmesg|less > > and > >less /var/log/syslog > > but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup > issues a message during boot that goes something like this: > >Setting up console font and keymap > > and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. > Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup > kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't > work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. > > On some hardware platforms, such as s390, when running in a > virtual machine under z/VM, I can capture the console boot messages by > "spooling the virtual console". But on other platforms, such as > i386, I do not know of a way to capture all the boot messages. Does > anybody know of a way? (I am running Debian Squeeze.) /etc/default/bootlogd Set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=YES and examine /var/log/boot or dmesg after rebooting. Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295280135.12602.4059.ca...@nero.internal.friendscout24.de
Tracking boot messages
Hello, list. I am trying to find a way to track boot messages. I know about things like dmesg|less and less /var/log/syslog but they don't cover everything. For example, /etc/init.d/console-setup issues a message during boot that goes something like this: Setting up console font and keymap and this does not appear in either dmesg output or in /var/log/syslog. Furthermore, it appears that the font change done by console-setup kills my scrollback; so that Shift+PageUp and Shift+PageDown don't work. That is, I can't scroll back prior to the font change. On some hardware platforms, such as s390, when running in a virtual machine under z/VM, I can capture the console boot messages by "spooling the virtual console". But on other platforms, such as i386, I do not know of a way to capture all the boot messages. Does anybody know of a way? (I am running Debian Squeeze.) -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1458241328.162591.1295279631499.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/17/2011 04:45 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Hi there, > > Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail > account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. > However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. > I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became > quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single > mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers > preferences in evolution. > > What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? > > Thanks ! I use Thunderbird with several IMAP accounts, including Gmail. Moving mail is usually a matter of drag'n'drop. I use Thunderbird's Local Folders to copy mail into local MBX files for backups and personal archives. - -- Sarunas Burdulis Systems Administrator Department of Mathematics, Dartmouth College http://math.dartmouth.edu/~sarunas -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk00Xi4ACgkQejaFVltl6E97BwCePjybfJb9LIhLKgpSF1UrSskw PlUAnR1B3k7W1wZth3F1R2UMvtCnrAHv =0xOF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d345e2e.6090...@math.dartmouth.edu
Re: logcheck
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:41 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote: > I am using logcheck on my squeeze, i have changed the domain name of the > machine from olddomain.com to newdomain.com, everything works fine, but > logcheck still sends the mails with r...@olddomain.com. How/where can i > a change the sender of logcheck emails? Sounds not like a logcheck problem to me. I assume your MTA is using the old name. Dunno which MTA you are using just try to look after your old domain name grep -r olddomain /etc Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295278227.12602.4052.ca...@nero.internal.friendscout24.de
Re: logcheck
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:41:11 +0100, Informatik.hu wrote:
> I am using logcheck on my squeeze, i have changed the domain name of the
> machine from olddomain.com to newdomain.com, everything works fine, but
> logcheck still sends the mails with r...@olddomain.com. How/where can i
> a change the sender of logcheck emails?
In the configuration file "/etc/logcheck/logcheck.conf" there should be a
variable "SENDMAILTO=" that you can adjust.
But the main question still remains (unless you had manually changed the
default settings of that variable and now forgot to update it ;-P)...
Why e-mails to "root" are not delivered to the current and updated host
domain? Check your alises database ("cat /etc/alisases") and your
hostname (hostname -d).
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Re: How do I install PHP together with Trac?
On 01/17/2011 11:33 AM, Jochen Schulz wrote:
Daniel Andersson:
# aptitude install php5
The following NEW packages will be installed:
apache2-mpm-prefork{ab} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libonig2{a}
libqdbm14{a} php5 php5-cli{a} php5-common{a} php5-suhosin{a}
0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,654 kB of archives. After unpacking 17.3 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
apache2-mpm-prefork: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
apache2-mpm-worker: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) apache2-mpm-worker
There is no problem here, as Javier already suggested. Aptitude simply
tells you that your current Apache MPM ("multi-processing module") is
incompatible with PHP and at the same time proposes to use another MPM
that works with PHP.
Background: Apache supports several modes of parallelism. The "worker"
MPM runs multithreaded, while prefork uses processes instead of threads.
AFAIK PHP doesn't work in a multithreaded environment and that's why you
have to use the prefork MPM. You probably won't notice any difference,
except that you are going to have more apache2 processes running than
before.
J.
Alright thanks. I installed php5 and its packages. All is running just
fine now :)
/Daniel
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Re: Lenny - xvinfo: No Adaptors present.. No XVideo
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 16:24:17 -0500, Chris Jones wrote: > On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 06:58:54AM EST, Camaleón wrote: > Ten years I've been using X every day and apart from a few silly tricks > learned through experience.. I'm just about as ignorant as I was when I > started off. Read it as follows: you've had ten years of a troubleless X system so you should to be proud of that ;-) >> loading the GLX module using some part of the nvidia closed drivers... >> how is that possible? :-? > > Broken environment..? :-) Something was messed up, yep. >> Now look mine: >> >> *** >> (II) LoadModule: "glx" >> (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so (II) Module >> glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation" compiled for 1.4.2, module version = >> 1.0.0 ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 0.3 (==) AIGLX enabled >> (II) Loading extension GLX >> *** >> >> Here is loading the Xorg stock GLX extension. > > I _assumed_ I might be able to conjure up some trick or other to switch > between the nvidia and nv drivers.. maybe not quite on the fly.. but at > least without having to reboot.. as a result, you caught me right in the > middle of testing possible solutions and I had not removed the nvidia > packages. > > As Sven rightly observed, what I had failed to notice was that since I > had no GLX at all loaded in my Xserver.. OpenGL programs did not work > any more.. But as Sven also remarked, this is a separate problem. AFAICT, you can have both drivers installed (at least in lenny), "nv" and "nvidia" and then adjust your "xorg.conf" file accordingly. In all the machines I have the "nvidia" driver installed it lives in harmony with "xserver-xorg-video-nv" :-) >> *** >> (II) Primary Device is: PCI 01:00:0 >> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device (--) >> Chipset Quadro FX 1500 found >> *** > > This log is lenny's.. and my card is unsupported by either ‘nv’ or > ‘nvidia’, so that would appear to be consistent. Well, your card is supported but not all features are available when using the "nv" driver, as it seems :-( >> I still don't see why are you so reluctant to "test" the closed source >> driver. Just to test, for seeing how it goes and if it solves nothing >> then at least you can decide the next step with confidence :-) > > Not at all. I tested it under squeeze where my card is supported and the > newer nvidia driver addresses the ‘black console’ issue. On the other > hand, I was experiencing extreme slowness in programs such as icesweasel > and a completely broken keyboard with stuff like the down arrow key > mapped to Mode_Switch (!) .. try to do a dpkg-reconfigure that brings up > ncurses screens with a broken down arrow. > > At that point, I decided that it made better sense to reinstall squeeze > at some point in the future and start again from scratch. The "black console" can be because in Squeeze KMS is enabled by default so, when using the nvidia driver, you have to ensure that KMS is off. > But since the card is working fine in ubuntu 10.10, I am not really > worried about getting this to work now. > > At this point, I am more concerned as to what completely borked my > out-of-the-box squeeze environment. Your card is very powerful and I'm sure you will get the best of it with the closed drivers, but I don't want to repeat like a loop myself by telling you the advantadges of using the nvidia driver :-) >> So you can test the closed driver in squeeze and see how it goes. If >> all is fine you can then install the latest driver available from >> nvidia site in lenny (it will require driver compilation). > > Thanks, but since within a few months I will have switched to squeeze > for my activities.. it's probably not worth it. After all, the only > thing (apart from DRI) that's not working in lenny, is that I have to > use the ‘x11’ video driver in mplayer.. and as a result, I cannot watch > the news full-screen. I can live with that. Okay, just remember Squeeze uses a different set of driver (nouveau) than lenny (nv), it is possible that you don't need to tewak anything there. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.14.12...@gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
> What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? I currently have three Gmail accounts configured in Evolution on this Lenny box. I will annually log into the webmail interface and archive _everything_ from the year before into the "All Mail" folder. Next time I log into Evolution only the mail from this year is visible. It's much faster I've noticed. -- Petrus Validus petrus.vali...@gmail.com If there isn't a way, I'll make one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295272854.3995.3.camel@Axon.8EEWS
logcheck
Hi All! I am using logcheck on my squeeze, i have changed the domain name of the machine from olddomain.com to newdomain.com, everything works fine, but logcheck still sends the mails with r...@olddomain.com. How/where can i a change the sender of logcheck emails? Vuki -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d3446f7.5050...@informatik.hu
Re: Grub2 reinstall on raid1 system. Corrections!!!!!
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:42:49 -0700 Bob Proulx wrote: > Jack, > > With your pastebin information and the mdstat information (that last > information in your mail and pastebins was critical good stuff) and > I found this old posting from you too: :-) > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2009/10/msg00808.html > > With all of that I deduce the following: > > /dev/md125 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm > /dev/md126 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ... > /dev/md127 /dev/sdb /dev/sdd (465G) as yet unformatted > > Jack, If that is wrong please correct me. But I think that is right. > That is Exactly correct. > The mdstat data showed that the arrays are sync'd. The UUIDs are as > follows. > > ARRAY /dev/md/125_0 metadata=0.90 > UUID=e45b34d8:50614884:1f1d6a6a:d9c6914c ARRAY /dev/md/126_0 > metadata=0.90 UUID=c06c0ea6:5780b170:ea2fd86a:09558bd1 > ARRAY /dev/md/Speeduke:2 metadata=1.2 name=Speeduke:2 > UUID=91ae6046:969bad93:92136016:116577fd > > The desired state: > > /dev/md0 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 (10G) root partition with no lvm > /dev/md1 /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 (288G) LVM for /home, /var, swap, ... > > Will get to /dev/md2 later... > > > My thinking is that I should rerun mdadm and reassemble the arrays > > to the original definitions... /md0 from sda1 & sdc1 > > /md1 from sda5 & sdc5 note: sda2 > > &sdc2 are legacy msdos extended partitions. > > I would not build a md device with msdos extended partitions under > > LVM2 at this time.. Agree? > > Agreed. You want to rename the arrays. Don't touch the msdos > partitions. > > > Is the above doable? If I can figure the right mdadm commands...8-) > > Yes. It is doable. You can rename the array. First stop the array. > Then assemble it again with the new desired name. Here is what you > want to do. Tom, Henrique, others, Please double check me on these. > > mdadm --stop /dev/md125 > mdadm --assemble /dev/md0 --update=super-minor /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 > > mdadm --stop /dev/126 > mdadm --assemble /dev/md1 --update=super-minor /dev/sda5 /dev/sdc5 > > That should by itself be enough to get the arrays going. > > But, and this is an important but, did you previously add the new disk > array to the LVM volume group on the above array? If so then you are > not done yet. The LVM volume group won't be able to assemble without > the new disk. If you did then you need to fix up LVM next. > NO! I did NOT add /dev/sdb and /dev/sdd to the LVM.. So that is not a problem.. I was about to do that when the machine failed.. > I think you should try to get back to where you were before when your > system was working. Therefore I would remove the new disks from the > LVM volume group. But I don't know if you did or did not add it yet. > So I must stop here and wait for further information from you. > > I don't know if your rescue disk has lvm automatically configured or > not. You may need to load the device mapper module dm_mod. I don't > know. If you do then here is a hint: > > modprobe dm_mod > > To scan for volume groups: > > vgscan > Found volume group "Speeduke" using metadata type lvm2 > To activate a volume group: > > vgchange -ay 5 logical volume(s) in volume group "Speeduke" now active > > To display the physical volumes associated with a volume group: > > pvdisplay > PV Name /dev/md126 VG Name Speeduke Other data ommited PV UUID kUoBgV-R9n6-exZ1-fdIk-aqlb-7Ue1-R3B1PD > If the new disks haven't been added to the volume group (I am hoping > not) then you should be home free. But if they are then I think you > will need to remove them first. > > I don't know if the LVM actions above are going to be needed. I am > just trying to proactively give some possible hints. > > Bob Bob, You cannot know how much I appreciate the time and effort you and others have given to this, hopefully a few more steps and all will be well.. I have not done the things you have suggested above. I'll wait for your response and then go!!! One other thing I am bothered by, md0, md1 were built using mdadm v0.90, md2 was built with the current mdadm v 3.1.4. which changed the md names. Does this matter Jack Jack -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110117071903.09664...@torrid.volunteerwireless.net
Re: GMail backup on debian
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:45:34 +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail > account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. > However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. > I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became > quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single > mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers preferences > in evolution. > > What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? Another thing to try: http://blog.fealdia.org/2008/08/11/backing-up-gmail-on-debian-using-isync/ But I use the manual way and try to keep the mailbox folders in a good shape to avoid having lots (thounsands!) of message is just one "label". Split messages by years/topics is the clue to have a "sane" Gmail :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.01.17.13.17...@gmail.com
Re: The 'route' output
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 05:20:19 +, T o n g wrote:
> Here is my 'route' output:
(better use "ip ro")
> $ route
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
> Iface
> 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> eth0
> link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0
> eth0
> default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0
>
> and I have two questions,
>
> - I haven't seen the "link-local" entry before. What's that?
> Where can I read more about it?
It's the Ahavi-zeroconf service running in background.
> - The last line, the "default" line, will take a while to show up,
> abut 2 or 3 seconds. where is the delay comes from?
Yep, it is resolving the name and that takes some seconds
("route -n" will prevent that).
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squeeze: xen 4.0.1-2 + drbd8-utils: block-drbd script does no longer work?!
Hi all, I've upgraded an xen+drbd+lvm debian system to squeeze. The DomUs utilize DRBD-ressources for storage (based on local LV) Unfortunately the block-drbd helper script provided by drbd8-utils doesn't seem to work anymore: root@xena:~# xm create -c /etc/xen/bldlenny32.cfg Using config file "/etc/xen/bldlenny32.cfg". root@xena:~# Error: Device 51714 (vbd) could not be connected. Hotplug scripts not working. I can start the DomU if a change the domU cfg from disk = [ 'drbd:bldlenny32-disk,xvda2,w', 'drbd:bldlenny32-swap,xvda1,w'] to disk = [ 'phy:/dev/drbd/by-res/bldlenny32-disk,xvda2,w', 'phy:/dev/drbd/by-res/bldlenny32-swap,xvda1,w'] and of course then having to manually changing the DRBD ressource states to primary before start: drbdadm primary bldlenny32-disk bldlenny32-swap The block-drbd helper script works on an older system with debian/lenny (+ some parts of older sid) Does anyone have a working configuration using the drbd: naming scheme? Installed packages: ii drbd8-utils 2:8.3.7-2.1 ii linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 2.6.32-30 ii linux-image-xen-amd64 2.6.32+28 ii linux-modules-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 ii xen-docs-4.04.0.1-2 ii xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd644.0.1-2 ii xen-linux-system-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 2.6.32-30 ii xen-qemu-dm-4.0 4.0.1-2 ii xen-utils-4.0 4.0.1-2 ii xen-utils-common4.0.0-1 ii xenstore-utils 4.0.1-2 /etc/xen/bldlenny32.cfg: name= 'bldlenny32' kernel = '/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64' ramdisk = '/boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-xen-amd64' extra = 'clocksource=jiffies' memory = '1024' root= '/dev/xvda2 ro' disk= [ 'drbd:bldlenny32-disk,xvda2,w', 'drbd:bldlenny32-swap,xvda1,w', ] dhcp= 'dhcp' vif = [ 'bridge=brvlan1, mac=00:16:3E:40:FB:EE' ] Thanks in advance for any hints, Bruno -- bruno a t voigt.tv -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d343393.5030...@voigt.tv
Re: GMail backup on debian
i'd go with thunderbird - it's a no brainer to setup, drag 'n drop. hell, i even used to use it to import email from one email server to another of a different kind with imap on both (lotus -> exchange, groupwise -> exchange). you can also tell thunderbird to store in mbox which is real cool. oh, and gmail's imap converts your labels into folders, so that's seamless (well, it'll copy multiple if you've got something with multiple labels). fwiw -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikhekjgyppepnyetq8qvk+6kyffrvv8cqf42...@mail.gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
Il 17/01/2011 10:45, Mathieu Malaterre ha scritto: > Hi there, > > Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail > account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. > However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. > I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became > quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single > mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers > preferences in evolution. > > What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? > > Thanks ! I'm using offlineimap to back up my mail, it works pretty well with gmail, and it's in the debian repos :) http://packages.debian.org/lenny/offlineimap -- Davide Mirtillo EV Network, Via Emilio Salgari 14/e 31056 Roncade (TV), Italy http://evnetwork.it -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d342ca5.4020...@ser-tec.org
Re: GMail backup on debian
Hi Mathieu, I use Disconnected IMAP (DIMAP) in KMail for this. Works like a charm. Syncs both ways and without any errors (as far as I can see). Grx HdV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201101171250.11553.hdv.ja...@gmail.com
Re: GMail backup on debian
On 01/17/2011 04:45 AM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? > > Thanks ! have used thunderbird & IMAP account for gmail for a long time.. all emails on my server. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux user # 367800 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d342bfb.1060...@pcartwright.com
Re: How do I install PHP together with Trac?
Daniel Andersson:
>
> # aptitude install php5
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> apache2-mpm-prefork{ab} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libonig2{a}
> libqdbm14{a} php5 php5-cli{a} php5-common{a} php5-suhosin{a}
> 0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 6,654 kB of archives. After unpacking 17.3 MB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> apache2-mpm-prefork: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
> apache2-mpm-worker: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Remove the following packages:
> 1) apache2-mpm-worker
There is no problem here, as Javier already suggested. Aptitude simply
tells you that your current Apache MPM ("multi-processing module") is
incompatible with PHP and at the same time proposes to use another MPM
that works with PHP.
Background: Apache supports several modes of parallelism. The "worker"
MPM runs multithreaded, while prefork uses processes instead of threads.
AFAIK PHP doesn't work in a multithreaded environment and that's why you
have to use the prefork MPM. You probably won't notice any difference,
except that you are going to have more apache2 processes running than
before.
J.
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Re: GMail backup on debian
On 01/17/2011 03:15 PM, Mathieu Malaterre wrote: Hi there, Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers preferences in evolution. What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? Thanks ! Using POP3 since they started giving the service. Works pretty well. Mihira. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d341189.9040...@gmail.com
GMail backup on debian
Hi there, Last week I decided to back up some of my mails from my gmail account. I remember that there used to be gmailfs mechanism for this. However the package is not available on my debian/squeeze anymore. I also tried using the imap service, using evolution, but it became quickly a nightmare (it is just impossible to retrieve just a single mail). I even selected 'Basic Headers' from the IMAP headers preferences in evolution. What are other people using when there gmail mailbox is becoming big ? Thanks ! -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktingkpcfqbfcogmsxesef1ub0v2sd1zjvx0bz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: The 'route' output
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:20 AM, T o n g wrote: > > Here is my 'route' output: > > $ route > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface > 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 > link-local * 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0 > default 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 > > and I have two questions, > > - I haven't seen the "link-local" entry before. What's that? > > - The last line, the "default" line, will take a while to show up, > abut 2 or 3 seconds. where is the delay comes from? > > FYI, I'm using a local DNS caching server: > > $ cat /etc/resolv.conf > # for interface eth0 > search local > nameserver 192.168.0.100 > nameserver 192.168.0.1 Do you have "169.254.0.0" when you use "route -n" rather than "link-local"? The delay must be because you have "search local" in "/etc/resolv.conf" and avahi-daemon installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimnkVm4e4PnuxUE1rQKM5=kc+rbbvdg52-sz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Occasional hangups with forcedeth
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 11:56 +0100, Klaus Pieper wrote: > Hi gurus, > > using > > 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1) > > I have occasional (i.e. occuring about every 6 weeks) hangups of this > device. > Ping to and from the machine does work, but loss is over 70%. > > Any hints or workarounds? > > Regards, > Klaus > > > # dmesg |grep -i forcedet > [1.528115] forcedeth: Reverse Engineered nForce ethernet driver. > Version 0.64. > [1.529046] forcedeth :00:0a.0: PCI INT A -> Link[LMAC] -> GSI 20 > (level, low) -> IRQ 20 > [1.529055] forcedeth :00:0a.0: setting latency timer to 64 > [1.594154] forcedeth :00:0a.0: ifname eth0, PHY OUI 0x732 @ 3, > addr 00:01:2e:27:c5:1c > [1.594164] forcedeth :00:0a.0: highdma csum pwrctl gbit lnktim > msi desc-v3 > > eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr . >inet addr:192.168.1.2 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 >inet6 addr: fe80::201:2eff:fe27:c51c/64 Scope:Link >UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 >RX packets:40 errors:86 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:86 >TX packets:197 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 >collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 >RX bytes:3391 (3.3 KiB) TX bytes:24074 (23.5 KiB) >Interrupt:22 > > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 > 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 > > > Settings for eth0: > Supported ports: [ MII ] > Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full > 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full > 1000baseT/Full > Supports auto-negotiation: Yes > Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full > 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full > 1000baseT/Full > Advertised pause frame use: No > Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes > Speed: 1000Mb/s > Duplex: Full > Port: MII > PHYAD: 3 > Transceiver: external > Auto-negotiation: on > Supports Wake-on: g > Wake-on: g > Link detected: yes > > We have had disastrous results with this driver on kernels 2.6.28 and 2.6.29. In our case, they would simply stop working altogether even when bonded. We were never able to decisively blame it on the driver but, it was enough of a problem that we replaced them all with Intel cards. I can decisively mention that the performance and, especially the packet handling latency -critical for I/O bound operations like iSCSI - were significantly worse for forcedeth than for the Intel cards and drivers - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1295255867.23642.2.ca...@denise.theartistscloset.com
Re: How do I install PHP together with Trac?
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Daniel Andersson
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> What is the best way to install PHP5 on my Debian 6 Squeeze system that I
> use for Trac?
>
> When trying to do a simple installation I get:
>
> # aptitude install php5
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
> apache2-mpm-prefork{ab} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libonig2{a} libqdbm14{a}
> php5 php5-cli{a} php5-common{a} php5-suhosin{a}
> 0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 6,654 kB of archives. After unpacking 17.3 MB will be used.
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> apache2-mpm-prefork: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
> apache2-mpm-worker: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
> The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
>
> Remove the following packages:
> 1) apache2-mpm-worker
>
>
>
> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
>
>
>
> I did not chose "Web server" in tasksel when installing Debian, can't
> remember why though. But I do not want to mess anything up, so how do I
> install PHP support?
Simply accept this solution (see [1] and [2] for explication about
apache2-mpm-* & php), and after aptitude does her work, invoke-rc.d
apache2 restart will help you to get php in apache.
Regards,
[1] http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/en/mpm.html
[2] http://www.php.net/manual/en/faq.installation.php#faq.installation.apache2
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How do I install PHP together with Trac?
Hi all
What is the best way to install PHP5 on my Debian 6 Squeeze system that
I use for Trac?
When trying to do a simple installation I get:
# aptitude install php5
The following NEW packages will be installed:
apache2-mpm-prefork{ab} libapache2-mod-php5{a} libonig2{a}
libqdbm14{a} php5 php5-cli{a} php5-common{a} php5-suhosin{a}
0 packages upgraded, 8 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,654 kB of archives. After unpacking 17.3 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
apache2-mpm-prefork: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
apache2-mpm-worker: Conflicts: apache2-mpm which is a virtual package.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Remove the following packages:
1) apache2-mpm-worker
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
I did not chose "Web server" in tasksel when installing Debian, can't
remember why though. But I do not want to mess anything up, so how do I
install PHP support?
The http://wiki.debian.org/PHP page doesn't help me much.
Thanks!
Daniel Andersson
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