Re: I want beep in urxvt terminal - SOLVED but not for urxvt

[Csanyi Pal]

Paul Chany  writes:

> Csanyi Pal  writes:
>
>> Andrei Popescu  writes:
>>
>>> On Jo, 17 feb 11, 09:16:16, Ron Johnson wrote:
 
 Yes, I use nvidia, and no I won't use nouveau.
>>>
>>> You could try it out just to confirm it makes your computer beep ;) 
>>
>> I used nvidia driver and haven't beep, now I'm using nouveau driver 
>> and still haven't beep. Why?
>
> Because in urxvt doesn't work, but in xterm does, so I must to use
> xterm if I want beep in terminal emulator.

For archive, I have now setup in ~/.Xresources following so Xterm menus
works too:

XTerm.vt100.geometry: 140x43
xterm*faceName: default
xterm*cursorBlink: true
xterm*cursorUnderLine: true
XTerm*eightBitInput: false
XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true

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Re: Setting the screen resolution in grub2

[Tom H]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Chris Bannister
 wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 02:30:12PM +, darkestkhan wrote:
>> 2011/2/23 Rob van der Putten :
> [..]
>> > How do I set the screen resolution to 640x480?
>> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=769" in /etc/default/grub doesn't work.
>> > There is lots of stuff on the web on how to do this, but I couldn't find
>> > anything /etc/default/grub specific.
> [..]
>>
>> Try in adding this grub boot menu ( and iirc you should add it in
>> /boot/grub/grub.cfg )
>
> Incorrect.
>
> root@fischer:~# ls -al /boot/grub/grub.cfg
> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 1420 2010-02-12 16:59 /boot/grub/grub.cfg

The problem isn't that grub.cfg is read-only. It's that nay change to
grub.cfg will be overwritten any time
grub-mkconfig/update-grub/update-grub2 is run.

Furhermore, I remembered after deleting previous emails in thsi thread
that there's one suggestion that wasn't made namely to set
"GRUB_TERMINAL=console".


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Reading later boot files failed

[waterloo]

when boot , I see an error : Reading later boot files failed .
What is the matter ?
I use Debian 6 amd64 .
Thanks

Re: setting parameters of disc /dev/sda failed .

[waterloo]

I delete below in /etc/hdparm.conf , it is now ok.

> /dev/sda {
>apm = 254
>spindown_time = 60
>dma = on
> }

But why did  "cancelling in 'Services' config" not work ?
Thanks

2011/2/26 waterloo 

> Thanks first .
>
> 2011/2/25 Camaleón 
>
>> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:32:34 +0800, waterloo wrote:
>>
>>
>> > I use 'nohdparm' in kernel parameter. When booted , I find a line : '
>> > skipping   (warning)' . So I am sure that error is about hdparm . I
>> > use below in /etc/hdparm.conf :
>> >
>> > /dev/sda {
>> >   apm = 254
>> >   spindown_time = 60
>> >   dma = on
>> > }
>>
>> Disable any customized parameter that you can have set in that file and
>> use the deafults.
>>
>> > I do not revise /etc/default/hdparm .
>> >
>> > What is wrong with settings of hdparm ?
>>
>> I dunno... maybe you are trying to use an old configuration file,
>> incorrect parameters/values or something that your hard disk does not
>> support. You better read the man page.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
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Re: Setting the screen resolution in grub2

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 02:30:12PM +, darkestkhan wrote:
> 2011/2/23 Rob van der Putten :
[..]
> > How do I set the screen resolution to 640x480?
> > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="vga=769" in /etc/default/grub doesn't work.
> > There is lots of stuff on the web on how to do this, but I couldn't find
> > anything /etc/default/grub specific.
[..]
> 
> Try in adding this grub boot menu ( and iirc you should add it in
> /boot/grub/grub.cfg )

Incorrect.

root@fischer:~# ls -al /boot/grub/grub.cfg
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1420 2010-02-12 16:59 /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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[OT] Wheezy release goals (was Re: Is there anything wrong with sticking with Lenny?)

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 04:04:19PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> [OT] Have the Wheezy release goals been published?  I hope that multi-arch 
> APT 
> and wide (>%80 of main) package support is one of them.

http://release.debian.org/wheezy/goals.txt

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[shawn wilson]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote:

>
> On 02/25/2011 06:35 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> > however, if you are a restaurant with a small web site, you are probably
> > not getting that many visitors in the first place (defacement isn't
> > going to cost you much), you probably aren't taking in data (no
> > disclosure of loss of pii required), maybe you don't even have any form
> > fields (no sql injection, xss, xsrf, etc), maybe you even host it with a
> > hosting company so they've got their own security. so, you've got decent
> > security by default and you're losses would be minimal. so, you'd be
> > stupid to spend tons of money on securing your web page.
>
> Remind me not to hire you as my administrator. A small business is
> likely to lose much, much more when targeted with an attack than a
> global empire. Funds are usually tight, good technical expertise is hard
> to come by, and coming back from a compromise costs more time and energy
> due to limited resources than a mega corporation.
>
>
>
i agree, it would seem that one of us would probably kill the other if faced
with that :)
i'll agree to disagree

Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Aaron Toponce]

On 02/25/2011 06:35 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> i don't think your examples are very good / secure. however, if you want
> security, you might go with openbsd.

http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/the-insecurity-of-openbsd/

Security isn't a binary function, and it's not something that is shipped
with operating systems or software. Security is implemented by the
administrator, not the vendor. You can secure a Windows server just as
hard as a GNU/Linux one, and if you don't think you can, you're fooling
yourself.

> however, if you are a restaurant with a small web site, you are probably
> not getting that many visitors in the first place (defacement isn't
> going to cost you much), you probably aren't taking in data (no
> disclosure of loss of pii required), maybe you don't even have any form
> fields (no sql injection, xss, xsrf, etc), maybe you even host it with a
> hosting company so they've got their own security. so, you've got decent
> security by default and you're losses would be minimal. so, you'd be
> stupid to spend tons of money on securing your web page.

Remind me not to hire you as my administrator. A small business is
likely to lose much, much more when targeted with an attack than a
global empire. Funds are usually tight, good technical expertise is hard
to come by, and coming back from a compromise costs more time and energy
due to limited resources than a mega corporation.

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Aaron Toponce]

On 02/25/2011 06:16 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> 'nothing but time' - you know that businesses spend tons of money to get
> more 9s of uptime.
> if a website grosses $500 an hour (for ads or for what they sell) and
> you wipe the box and reinstall, you might have lost $2k (if you're real
> good at setting up a web server).

It takes you 4 hours to setup a web server?! Wow. You know, there are
ghosting and imaging technologies that you can use to have a pristine
"golden image" restored in under 3 minutes, right?

Depending on your network and data restoration techniques, you should be
able to restore data back on the drive as fast as the drive can go.
Assuming this is a data center with raided FC or SCSI drives (you should
be able to afford that if a single server is responsible for $500/hour
of revenue), there should be no reason why you can't achieve 300 MBps
during the restore- 800 MBps if using a moderate SAN. My experience has
shown that when a box goes down, and I need to rebuild, if I'm at it for
more than 20 minutes, I'm wasting time.

> and if you use something from your
> previous install that has something you don't want, you've gained
> nothing. if you go and reinstall the backend db, you might have gained
> nothing as if you recreate the db with your old data that has an account
> you don't want or a trigger that does something you were trying to stop,
> you gained nothing.

Garbage. That's the whole point of restoring data. If you are rebuilding
a server that just got compromised, you restore everything the server
contained up to break in.

> remember, there is rarely a good reason to reboot a linux box and even
> less of a reason to reinstall.

More garbage. There are _many_ good reasons to reboot a UNIX or
GNU/Linux server:

* Proper maintenance ensuring all services start on boot.
* Cleaning out stale memory and swap as a "refresh".
* Booting into a new kernel.
* Forcing applications to use the new libraries.
* Ensuring all hardware is still in good, working order.
* Running filesystem checks on filesystems to make sure data is sound.
* Even modifying partitions or filesystems to accommodate new storage needs.

> imo, good logs, properly configured ids, services run in chroot,
> selinux, and properly configured f5 are better than wasting time for no
> good reason.

Anything is better than wasting your time. What's your point?

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[shawn wilson]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:06 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 02/25/2011 06:30 PM, John Hasler wrote:
>
>> Andrei Popescu wrote:
>>
>>> But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will
>>> have to wipe and reinstall anyway.
>>>
>>
>> But if the machine is in fact clean you will have lost nothing but time.
>> Which is better: to know for sure that the Russian mafia got all your
>> customer records or suspect that they might have but have reason to
>> believe that that they probably didn't?
>>
>
> Which is why you should run your site and databases on an obscure but very
> secure OS and platform like OpenVMS/Alpha.
>
> All the people who used to hack on it in college are at least 45yo, far
> beyond their "cracking" phase.
>
>
funny, i had a conversation about this with someone not long ago...

i don't think your examples are very good / secure. however, if you want
security, you might go with openbsd. however, some services aren't ported to
it. so, you might have the most secure server environment, but no way to run
what you want - what have you gained?

the better option is to gauge risk and to gauge how much you're likely to
loose if bad things happen to you. see, if you do something stupid like talk
shit about anonymous (see hbgary) your risk has gone up and you loose tons
of stuff (and show that you're a security company that can't even secure
your home front - oops).

however, if you are a restaurant with a small web site, you are probably not
getting that many visitors in the first place (defacement isn't going to
cost you much), you probably aren't taking in data (no disclosure of loss of
pii required), maybe you don't even have any form fields (no sql injection,
xss, xsrf, etc), maybe you even host it with a hosting company so they've
got their own security. so, you've got decent security by default and you're
losses would be minimal. so, you'd be stupid to spend tons of money on
securing your web page.

by the same token, you're the restaurant, you take credit cards using
square. one of your employees gets a virus on their phone and you use tons
of card numbers to the russian mafia. well, you might have problems. your
computers are secure, but you've lost your customers' confidence.

Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[shawn wilson]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:30 PM, John Hasler  wrote:

> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will
> > have to wipe and reinstall anyway.
>
> But if the machine is in fact clean you will have lost nothing but time.
> Which is better: to know for sure that the Russian mafia got all your
> customer records or suspect that they might have but have reason to
> believe that that they probably didn't?
> --
>

'nothing but time' - you know that businesses spend tons of money to get
more 9s of uptime.
if a website grosses $500 an hour (for ads or for what they sell) and you
wipe the box and reinstall, you might have lost $2k (if you're real good at
setting up a web server). and if you use something from your previous
install that has something you don't want, you've gained nothing. if you go
and reinstall the backend db, you might have gained nothing as if you
recreate the db with your old data that has an account you don't want or a
trigger that does something you were trying to stop, you gained nothing.

remember, there is rarely a good reason to reboot a linux box and even less
of a reason to reinstall.

imo, good logs, properly configured ids, services run in chroot, selinux,
and properly configured f5 are better than wasting time for no good reason.

You want embarrassing? (was Re: [SOLVED] Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze)

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/25/2011 06:49 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


I have found the culprit: it was a bad floppy disk!  The media was
physically defective and was causing I/O errors.  Once I put a good
floppy in it, everything worked fine.  How embarrassing!  Thanks to
all who replied, and sorry for the noise.



My wife's old computer (a tower sitting on the floor in a cabinet) 
once wouldn't boot, and for the life of me I couldn't figure out 
why.  So I bought her a new PC.


A year later, I looked at the old PC at just the correct angle and 
saw a disk in the floppy drive...


*That* was embarrassing!

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Ron Johnson]

On 02/25/2011 06:30 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Andrei Popescu wrote:

But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will
have to wipe and reinstall anyway.


But if the machine is in fact clean you will have lost nothing but time.
Which is better: to know for sure that the Russian mafia got all your
customer records or suspect that they might have but have reason to
believe that that they probably didn't?


Which is why you should run your site and databases on an obscure 
but very secure OS and platform like OpenVMS/Alpha.


All the people who used to hack on it in college are at least 45yo, 
far beyond their "cracking" phase.


:)

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[SOLVED] Re: Cannot use USB floppy drive in Squeeze

[Stephen Powell]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:07:27 -0500 (EST), Dom  wrote:
> On 25/02/11 02:32, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> ...
>> Does anyone, anywhere, have a working USB
>> floppy drive under Debian Squeeze?  If so, I'd like to know about
>> it, and what you did to get it working.
>> ...
> Yes. I have a USB floppy drive that I use occasionally under Squeeze.
> I didn't have to configure anything to make it work. I'm using the stock 
> Debian 2.6.32-5-686 kernel.
> 
> It is a Sony drive, rather than TEAC.
> 
> My lsusb seems to be the same as yours, apart from vendor/manufacturer 
> lines, and this line:
> 
>iInterface  4 FLOPPY
> 
> I don't know if that helps.

I have found the culprit: it was a bad floppy disk!  The media was
physically defective and was causing I/O errors.  Once I put a good
floppy in it, everything worked fine.  How embarrassing!  Thanks to
all who replied, and sorry for the noise.

While I'm on the subject, though, I/O errors do seem to be a weakness
of Linux.  In DOS or Windows, it would have tried about 5 times to
read the sector and then given up.  In Linux, it seems that a single
bad sector can put the Kernel into an (almost) infinite loop and
(almost) fill the hard drive with log messages!

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[John Hasler]

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will
> have to wipe and reinstall anyway.

But if the machine is in fact clean you will have lost nothing but time.
Which is better: to know for sure that the Russian mafia got all your
customer records or suspect that they might have but have reason to
believe that that they probably didn't?
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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[shawn wilson]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Dotan Cohen  wrote:

>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 16:22, Celejar  wrote:
>
> >> It is atypical as it is not webmail! Very few people today are using
> >> something they access via POP3 or IMAP, and even most of those aren't
> >> running on their desktop but rather at the company.
> >
> > Okay, I have no idea of the numbers, but POP3/IMAP is certainly the (or
> > a) classic way of doing mail.
> >
>
> I don't have numbers either, but POP3/IMAP/SMTP is certainly rare in
> the under-30 crowd. Rare, as in they don't even know that options
> exists, and don't understand how one could have email but not have
> access to it from any web browser.
>
>
> first, i don't have numbers either. however, lets think about this for a
second. how many smart phones are out there? ok, now figure out how many of
those are owned by <30 crowd. i'll bet tons of $$$ that 99.9% of them have
email configured on their phone.

that said, i use the gmail web interface from my computer. and imap+idle to
my phone pushes mail faster than their webui... go figure.

Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[shawn wilson]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Vi, 25 feb 11, 12:42:51, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > The fact that a compromised user account = a compromised machine is
> > of course very true. However, when detected it might be that the
> > attacker did not manage yet to get root permissions. Thus, it buys
> > some time.
>
> But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will have
> to wipe and reinstall anyway.
>
>
tripwire? setup logrotate to log to another computer?
there are other options than tripwire and logrotate, but those are the
general theories that will let you know.

Re: bash variables

[Javier Barroso]

Hi Mike,

Please add OT to subject ;-)

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Mike McClain  wrote:
> I occasionally have problems with bash variables, for instance
> the following command lists (along with everything else)
>  2 *.deb files in /home/mike/
>
> root@/deb40a:~> FIND1="-maxdepth 1 -type f -print -name '*'"; \
>    GREP="-v '\.\(deb\|gz\|tgz\|bz2\|tbz\|zip\)$'"; \
>    find /home/mike/ $FIND1 | grep $GREP ;
>
> while without variables;
> root@/deb40a:~> find /home/mike/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print -name '*' |
>    grep -v '\.\(deb\|gz\|tgz\|bz2\|tbz\|zip\)$'
> does not list the 2 *.deb files.
>
> In the same vein this command lists nothing:
> root@/deb40a:~> FIND="-name '*'"; find /root/bin $FIND
> while
> root@/deb40a:~> find /root/bin -name '*'
> lists 25 files.
>
> This only bites me once in a while but when it does it can be very
> frustrating so any hints / tips are welcome.
If you want to view what is happenning here:

set -x;  # and then exec your sentences

You can use set -f to disable file pattern expansion:

FIND='-name *'; set -f; find . $FIND; set +f

I don't know how you can use quoted "*" inside that variable in find
instruction ... maybe  comp.unix.shell group could be a better place
to be answered your question in a nice way

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 16:22, Celejar  wrote:
> [Please don't cc me on replies.]
>

Sorry. The Open Office list is just the opposite (we _must_ cc as one
need not be subscribed to post, and lots of new users don't
subscribe). I'm on 40+ lists so I loose track.


>> It is atypical as it is not webmail! Very few people today are using
>> something they access via POP3 or IMAP, and even most of those aren't
>> running on their desktop but rather at the company.
>
> Okay, I have no idea of the numbers, but POP3/IMAP is certainly the (or
> a) classic way of doing mail.
>

I don't have numbers either, but POP3/IMAP/SMTP is certainly rare in
the under-30 crowd. Rare, as in they don't even know that options
exists, and don't understand how one could have email but not have
access to it from any web browser.


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bash variables

[Mike McClain]

I occasionally have problems with bash variables, for instance
the following command lists (along with everything else)
 2 *.deb files in /home/mike/

root@/deb40a:~> FIND1="-maxdepth 1 -type f -print -name '*'"; \
GREP="-v '\.\(deb\|gz\|tgz\|bz2\|tbz\|zip\)$'"; \
find /home/mike/ $FIND1 | grep $GREP ; 

while without variables;
root@/deb40a:~> find /home/mike/ -maxdepth 1 -type f -print -name '*' |
grep -v '\.\(deb\|gz\|tgz\|bz2\|tbz\|zip\)$'
does not list the 2 *.deb files.

In the same vein this command lists nothing:
root@/deb40a:~> FIND="-name '*'"; find /root/bin $FIND
while
root@/deb40a:~> find /root/bin -name '*'
lists 25 files.

This only bites me once in a while but when it does it can be very
frustrating so any hints / tips are welcome.
Thanks,
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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[David Jardine]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 10:40:55PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
> I don't consider a debian-user subscriber a "typical desktop / laptop 
> user" :)

A typical debian-user subscriber may not be a typical desktop/laptop 
user, but a typical Debian desktop/laptop user may well be a 
debian-user subscriber, I think.

Cheers,
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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 24 feb 11, 16:27:20, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:10:09 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > On Jo, 24 feb 11, 16:33:09, Celejar wrote:
> > > Certainly - but my advice stands for typical, general purpose desktops,
> > > laptops and servers.
> > 
> > I doubt typical, general purpose desktops and laptops (yes, I omitted
> > servers) are using /var/spool/mail or /var/spool/cron/crontabs
> 
> Having a couple of user cronjobs around is pretty normal for me.  And while 
> remote mail is optional, I consider a system that can't deliver local mail to 
> be incomplete.
> 
> There's also other stuff under /var I use.  PostgreSQL databases for one.
> 
> NB: I don't keep backups.  I know I should, but I don't.  I gave up after 
> calculating the size of the pile of DVDs I'd need to back up my 4TB file 
> system.

I don't consider a debian-user subscriber a "typical desktop / laptop 
user" :)

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Andrei Popescu]

On Vi, 25 feb 11, 12:42:51, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> The fact that a compromised user account = a compromised machine is
> of course very true. However, when detected it might be that the
> attacker did not manage yet to get root permissions. Thus, it buys
> some time.

But there is no 100% way to tell the machine is clean, so you will have 
to wipe and reinstall anyway.

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Re: question about storage

[Charles Kroeger]

On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:10:01 +0100
Stan Hoeppner  wrote:

> The sky is the limit

Thanks Stan, I really enjoyed your plain speaking about desktop
hardware.  By the way, I can't seem to access hardwarefreak.com, well
it's there but I see nothing, is this right?

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Re: Three mail server questions

[Camaleón]

El 2011-02-25 a las 13:47 -0500, Brad Alexander escribió:

(resending to the list)

> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

> > > r...@hornet.bar.com>, relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.04/0.01/0/0,
> > > dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to hornet.bar.com[192.168.1.13]:25:
> > > Connection refused)
> > >
> > > I know I could open up hornet's postfix to the entire address space
> > > (it's set to the default -- 127.0.0.0/8), but it seems to me that would
> > > open up a nasty email loop.
> >
> > If you want Postfix manages incoming/outgoing e-mails in your network,
> > you have to do it so, otherwise Postfix will reject the e-mails from your
> > clients.
> >
> 
> Right, thats what merrimac is doing (managing for the domain). What I am not
> understanding, is since everything should be going to the mailboxes on
> merrimac, why it is trying to contact hornet again. The mail flow, as I see
> it, should be hornet -> merrimac -> local mailbox.

I see.

"192.168.0.13" is hornet with Postfix setup to relay all the e-mails to 
merrimac, right? Then something looks wrong at merrimac's Postfix 
main.cf, it should be setup to directly delivery e-mails and not 
fowarding them again.

Can you post (or upload to www.pastebin.com) your merrimac's main.cf 
file? (you can remove/hide any sensible information that file can 
hold). That way maybe we can get a clue on what's going on.

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Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

[Jeffrin Jose]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:56:10PM -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote:
> But I'm uncertain where to look for more information (I can't find
> anything more informative anywhere in /var/log), or how to go about
> determining whether this is a configuration issue I can fix or a bug
> that I should file.
> 
> Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!

I think some module which help in the  suspend/resume
process has failed to complete initialization.
EDAC(Error Correction And Detection) module might
have found error in a device or may be the module
needs a patch.

You can do dmesg | grep edac and see if there is 
a probe failure for any device.

I Think it is a kernel module issue.

You can try to get some information from
http:// patchwork.kernel.org
To search in google for patchwork..

:patchwork.kernel.org

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Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

[Richard Lawrence]

Thanks, Camaleón, for these suggestions.

> Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to hibernate/resume 
> from there and see how it goes.

Ok, here's where I'm at:

1) A new user (pmtest) can indeed hibernate and resume from the console
without issue

2) My regular user account (rwl) can hibernate and resume from the
console without issue

3) pmtest can hibernate the system from within Gnome in X, but a kernel
error results on resume -- though the system recovers.  Details below.

4) rwl can hibernate the system from within stumpwm in X.  I see no
kernel error on resume (though perhaps it's there, but stumpwm doesn't
give me a nice dialog box the way Gnome did).  I have now seen at least
one successful resume after hibernating from stumpwm in X, but my
previous failures to resume were always after hibernating from within
stumpwm in X.

> If you are using "pm-utils" (man pm-action) there must be a log file 
> under "/var/log/pm-suspend.log"

There is indeed.  I'm afraid I don't see much of use there, though.
Lots of messages indicating that the /hibernate/ was successful.  But
nothing indicating what the problem is when resume fails.  I have
included segments of the log below from a successful hibernate/resume
cycle.  The only difference I can see between successful and
unsuccessful runs is that, in the unsuccessful runs, there is no data
logged for the "resume" part of the cycle -- which I guess suggests that
the problem occurs before pm-utils even gets into the picture, right?

One other piece of potentially relevant data: my machine seems to have
some sort of hardware quirk that requires about a 35 second "warmup"
period between loading GRUB and booting.  (Sometimes, this period is
accompanied by a fan noise that eventually shuts off, after which
experience tells me that the system will boot fine.)  If I don't wait
the 35 seconds before booting when the machine is cold, a variety of
strange things can happen (sometimes I see kernel panic type messages,
sometimes nothing at all), but waiting the 35 seconds always allows the
machine to boot successfully.  The problem only occurs when the machine
has been powered off and sitting for a while (e.g., overnight) -- I
don't need to wait the 35 seconds when rebooting, for example.

I have no idea what this problem is, nor do I have any idea how I might
begin to find out.  It's one of those things that I have reached an
agreement with my machine about: as long as it keeps booting, I'm happy
to wait 35 seconds, and not poke around. :)

Best,
Richard


Kernel error message on resume, after hibernate by pmtest in Gnome:

Kernel failure message 1:
BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request at a63b404f
IP: [<08a5bc0a>] 0x8a5bc0a
*pde =  
Oops: 0002 [#1] SMP 
last sysfs file: /sys/power/state
Modules linked in: cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative 
cpufreq_powersave ppdev lp binfmt_misc fuse loop snd_via82xx gameport 
snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus snd_pcm snd_page_alloc snd_mpu401_uart snd_seq_midi 
snd_seq_midi_event snd_rawmidi snd_seq i2c_viapro snd_timer nouveau 
snd_seq_device ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit snd via_ircc soundcore 
i2c_core shpchp irda pci_hotplug crc_ccitt evdev parport_pc parport processor 
button psmouse pcspkr serio_raw ext3 jbd mbcache sg sr_mod cdrom sd_mod 
crc_t10dif ata_generic pata_via fan uhci_hcd libata thermal via_rhine ehci_hcd 
floppy thermal_sys mii scsi_mod usbcore nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]

Pid: 2925, comm: pm-hibernate Not tainted (2.6.32-5-686 #1) KT333-8235
EIP: 0060:[<08a5bc0a>] EFLAGS: 00010296 CPU: 0
EIP is at 0x8a5bc0a
EAX: 04bf EBX: a5bc6000 ECX: eede6800 EDX: 0108
ESI: 00c1 EDI: 0030fb08 EBP: a5bc6000 ESP: de02ffcf
 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 00e0 SS: 0068
Process pm-hibernate (pid: 2925, ti=de02e000 task=def92200 task.ti=de02e000)
Stack:
 7b00 7b00  3300 0400 7db42400 73b7 00024600
<0> eede2800 7bbf 20200a00 206c6e20
Call Trace:
Code:  Bad EIP value.
EIP: [<08a5bc0a>] 0x8a5bc0a SS:ESP 0068:de02ffcf
CR2: a63b404f
---[ end trace 0e93aec76eafb3ca ]---



Snippet from /var/log/pm-suspend.log, from a successful
hibernate:

Fri Feb 25 10:05:16 PST 2011: Running hooks for hibernate.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/000kernel-change hibernate hibernate:success.
/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/00logging hibernate hibernate:Linux ludwig 
2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 04:01:41 UTC 2011 i686 GNU/Linux
Module  Size  Used by
cpufreq_stats   1940  0 
cpufreq_userspace   1480  0 
cpufreq_conservative 4018  0 
cpufreq_powersave602  0 
ppdev   4058  0 
lp  5570  0 
binfmt_misc 4907  1 
fuse   44033  1 
loop9765  0 
snd_via82xx15256  0 
gameport 

Re: Debian Multi-Media.

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:48:43 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

>> Did I mention Christian at all?
> 
> Christian is toe Owner/Responsable for the Domain D-M.

Yes, I know. But I did not mention anyone in special, my question was 
rather generic.
 
>> If you read the full thread you'll find out what (and why) I was asking
>> what I asked.
> 
> In my opinion, USERS which use external archives  like  "multimedia"  or
> "backports" should subscribe to the appropriated (announce) mailinglists
> and not bother others...

Glad to know your opinion.

I still think D-M issues (please, note that "D" letter... is for 
"Debian"), being a "Debian" repository used by many "Debian" users can 
also can fit here. C'mon, this is not the first time I read in this 
mailing list about problems with D-M packages, and I don't think that's 
bad or should be avoided.

> I am subscribed to arround 140 mailinglist, where more then 50 are  VERY
> LOW TRAFFIC anouncement lists...  all have to do  with  (Net|Free)  BSD,
> Linux and Debian.  But I do not expect special announcements of them in
> DEBIAN mailinglists.

Please, re-read the whole thread again.

And also review the archive of this same mailing list (back some weeks 
ago) to discover what is this all about. Nobody seemed to be offended 
then when we were talking about the problem, but now it seems like 
anything related to D-M is generating bad feelings :-/

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Re: Debian Multi-Media.

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Camaleón,

Am 2011-02-25 14:43:25, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Did I mention Christian at all?

Christian is toe Owner/Responsable for the Domain D-M.

> If you read the full thread you'll find out what (and why) I was asking 
> what I asked.

In my opinion, USERS which use external archives  like  "multimedia"  or
"backports" should subscribe to the appropriated (announce) mailinglists
and not bother others...

I am subscribed to arround 140 mailinglist, where more then 50 are  VERY
LOW TRAFFIC anouncement lists...  all have to do  with  (Net|Free)  BSD,
Linux and Debian.  But I do not expect special announcements of them in
DEBIAN mailinglists.

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Re: aptitude upgrade errors

[Kelly Harding]

solved this now. So simple in the end, simply removing the _'s from
the version field in /var/lib/dpkg/status fixed it.


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Re: Debian stable vs. testing for Swift Linux (antiX derivative)

[Camaleón]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 20:52:22 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote:

(...)

> However, I'm now considering having all subsequent versions use Debian
> Testing packages, as the Swift Linux base is Debian Testing, and I'm
> not sure that the Debian Stable packages really mean that much
> improvement in stability.  What do you think?

What is the main purpose for that little box? If it provides critical 
services I wouldn't doubt it and stick with stable (now Squeeze).

But I also find "testing" (now Wheezy) to be very stable for most common 
purposes :-)

Anyway, as it can be read from Swift's web page, it seems to be feeded 
from both, stable and testing packages:

***
http://www.swiftlinux.org/about

Additional Benefits

* STABLE EVEN BY LINUX STANDARDS: Swift Linux has roots in Debian's 
Stable and Testing branches. Ubuntu and Linux Mint are based on Debian's 
Unstable branch. 
***

> That said, for the versions of Swift Linux that have OpenOffice
> preinstalled, I intend to stick with OpenOffice 2.4 (from Lenny) because
> it's lightweight.  Version 3 of OpenOffice has double the requirements
> of version 2.  I don't think version 3 would work well with 128 MB of
> RAM (minimum requirement for Swift Linux), and the extra space it
> requires would likely make the Swift Linux ISO file too large to fit on
> a CD.

Hum... if you are planning to run OpenOffice (how about LibreOffice?) in 
that box I guess you should be fine with Debian testing branch.

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Re: Create a separate X session for displaying a single app

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:10:36 +, Ryan Braun wrote:

> I have a dual output nvidia videocard that I would like to setup the
> second display to be a dumb display that would just display a single app
> with no user control whatsoever.  So no window manager or desktop
> environment needed or wanted on that display.  Just the app with no
> screensavers or screen blanking.  On the main display,  I'll be running
> kdm and using KDE.
> 
> I would have no problem setting this up as a second display in X and
> running it that way,  but I have a need to run this second display in a
> sort of kiosk mode.  So regardless if anyone is logged in to the system,
>  I need that second display to be up and running.  I would just setup an
> init script to start up the second display upon boot.

(...)

The easy way could be to create a dedicated user account just to be used 
in full kiosk mode (KDE had a module for setting up a whole environment 
like this), so once you configure that account with limited priviledges, 
you can tweak the screens as you want.

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Re: Three mail server questions

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 19:58:35 -0500, Brad Alexander wrote:

> I have three mail server questions, if I might.

(...)

> On the mail server:
> Feb 24 13:16:06 merrimac postfix/qmgr[14271]: A5D97F1852: from=<
> r...@hornet.bar.com>, size=1143, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Feb 24 13:16:06
> merrimac postfix/smtp[16354]: connect to
> hornet.bar.com[192.168.1.13]:25:
> Connection refused
> Feb 24 13:16:07 merrimac postfix/smtp[16354]: E0574F1862: to=<
> r...@hornet.bar.com>, relay=none, delay=0.05, delays=0.04/0.01/0/0,
> dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to hornet.bar.com[192.168.1.13]:25:
> Connection refused)
> 
> I know I could open up hornet's postfix to the entire address space
> (it's set to the default -- 127.0.0.0/8), but it seems to me that would
> open up a nasty email loop.

If you want Postfix manages incoming/outgoing e-mails in your network, 
you have to do it so, otherwise Postfix will reject the e-mails from your
clients.

> However, I am having issues with getting dovecot working. 

I would follow these steps for checking the installation:

http://wiki2.dovecot.org/TestInstallation

> 3. Does anyone have a roundcube guide for Debian?

http://www.bytetouch.com/blog/linux/how-to-linux-mail-server-with-postfix-and-dovecot-on-debian-lenny/

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Re: setting parameters of disc /dev/sda failed .

[waterloo]

Thanks first .

2011/2/25 Camaleón 

> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:32:34 +0800, waterloo wrote:
>
> > I use 'nohdparm' in kernel parameter. When booted , I find a line : '
> > skipping   (warning)' . So I am sure that error is about hdparm . I
> > use below in /etc/hdparm.conf :
> >
> > /dev/sda {
> >   apm = 254
> >   spindown_time = 60
> >   dma = on
> > }
>
> Disable any customized parameter that you can have set in that file and
> use the deafults.
>
> > I do not revise /etc/default/hdparm .
> >
> > What is wrong with settings of hdparm ?
>
> I dunno... maybe you are trying to use an old configuration file,
> incorrect parameters/values or something that your hard disk does not
> support. You better read the man page.
>
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Re: Suspend to disk fails after Squeeze upgrade

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:56:10 -0800, Richard Lawrence wrote:

> I upgraded from Lenny to Squeeze this past weekend.  Since then, I
> haven't been able to successfully resume after a suspend to disk, which
> had been working fine in Lenny (with Linux 2.6.26).  Basically, on boot,
> I see a blinking cursor, followed by a completely blank (unresponsive --
> no virtual terminals or anything) screen.

(...)

Make a quick and easy test: create a new user and try to hibernate/resume 
from there and see how it goes.
 
> I've got this information from dmesg (more output below):
> 
> [2.027753] PM: Starting manual resume from disk 
> [2.027760] PM: Resume from partition 8:5 
> [2.027763] PM: Checking hibernation image.
> [2.028125] PM: Error -22 checking image file 
> [2.028127] PM: Resume from disk failed.
> 
> But I'm uncertain where to look for more information (I can't find
> anything more informative anywhere in /var/log), or how to go about
> determining whether this is a configuration issue I can fix or a bug
> that I should file.

(...)

If you are using "pm-utils" (man pm-action) there must be a log file 
under "/var/log/pm-suspend.log"

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Re: Unrecognized security certificate warning is gone

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 07:29:13 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> On 02/25/11 04:01, Camaleón wrote:

>> Try to open a brand-new session for Firefox, for example, by running it
>> as another user or by creating a new profile.
>>
> The client is currently set up just for me, not systemwide.  However,
> there is a newer version, so I could uninstall the old version and the
> install the new one as root so it will be systemwide.

There is no need to do that.

You can rename ("rename", do not delete) your current profile so that 
Firefox creates a new (empty) one for your user.

>> How about your Citrix client? Does it have any settings to manage SSL
>> certificates?
> 
> I don't know.  This is the standard linux client provided by Citrix.

I would investigate this. If this app has any control panel to manage the 
Citrix client options, check it out. This client can be the "glue" and 
the reason that makes all of your browsers to behave in the same way :-?

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Re: Unrecognized security certificate warning is gone

[Marc Shapiro]

On 02/25/11 04:01, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:37:52 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:


I am using Firefox, not Iceweasel, but I think this question should
apply in either case.  I am trying to connect to work using the Citrix
client.  I used to get a warning that the certificate was not recognized
and do I want to continue, or not.  I am no longer getting the warning,
but Firefox is assuming that I have said NOT to accept the certificate
and it is closing the connection.  How do I get the warning and question
back.


Try to open a brand-new session for Firefox, for example, by running it
as another user or by creating a new profile.

The client is currently set up just for me, not systemwide.  However, 
there is a newer version, so I could uninstall the old version and the 
install the new one as root so it will be systemwide.



You can also try to start firefox from command line.


BTW, this is happening with Opera and Kazehakase, as well, not just
Firefox.  Is there some place that all of these browsers would look to
define this behavior?


I've always thought that every browser handles their certificates
database (and warnings) independently, but I agree it must a commom point
here as all browsers are failing in the same manner.

How about your Citrix client? Does it have any settings to manage SSL
certificates?


I don't know.  This is the standard linux client provided by Citrix.

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[shawn wilson]

On Feb 25, 2011 8:40 AM, "Aaron Toponce"  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:42:51PM +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > SQL injecting and web forms will not work for ssh directly, unless
> > you have a very poorly configured apache+mysql-config. Of course
> > there are ways of obtaining someone's password.
>
> Heh. SQL injections can get you all sorts of things. The goal is to get
> into the server via any route possible. If you leave the server open to
> the outside world, disabling root login via ssh isn't granting you any
> security.
>

I'll bite, please explain.

Re: Unrecognized security certificate warning is gone

[Marc Shapiro]

On 02/25/11 01:01, Michael Tsang wrote:

On Friday 25 February 2011 12:37:52 Marc Shapiro wrote:

I am using Firefox, not Iceweasel, but I think this question should
apply in either case.  I am trying to connect to work using the Citrix
client.  I used to get a warning that the certificate was not recognized
and do I want to continue, or not.  I am no longer getting the warning,
but Firefox is assuming that I have said NOT to accept the certificate
and it is closing the connection.  How do I get the warning and question
back.

BTW, this is happening with Opera and Kazehakase, as well, not just
Firefox.  Is there some place that all of these browsers would look to
define this behavior?

Marc

Is that certificate installed in the system-wide database?


How would I check that?  Which database would that be?

Marc


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Re: Where is cvsnt package in squeeze?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Friday 25 February 2011 04:10:31 g o wrote:
> I'm installed a fresh server with squeeze (debian 6.0) netisntall iso.
> 
> I've tried to install the cvsnt packages... but no packages found! Where is
> cvsnt in Lenny there was

It was removed; a link to that bug already exists in this thread.

Instead of the "cvsnt" package, you can use the "cvs" package which is in 
Squeeze.

You might also find the "cvsd" package useful if you are running a CVS 
repository.  You should probably look into using the "git-cvsserver" binary in 
the "git-cvs" package.  The architecture of CVS almost guarantees that once 
you have concurrently developed branches, their history will get silently 
corrupted.  Using the Git architecture but the CVS protocol ensures data 
integrity without have to change the clients in many cases.

Finally, I would recommend that you move your repository off of CVS entirely.  
DVCS technology is well-tested and bring advantages even in work flows built 
around a centralized repository.  I use Git a lot and think it is the best, 
but my criteria may be quite different from yours or your organizations.  I've 
used Bazaar, Mercurial, Monotone, and Darcs all a bit.  I think all of them 
have the disadvantages of their advantages; I know Git does.

Bazaar seems to have really slick documentation including discussions of 
specific work flows.  Mercurial "just works" the way SVN users expect.  
Monotone uses a relational data store and uses web-of-trust ideas.  Darcs has 
a relatively amazing way to automatically handle certain classes of conflict.  
Git exposes a lot of internals so it is as much a foundation for custom tools 
as it is a stand-alone DVCS; I use just the shell to script interactions with 
proprietary software at my DJ.
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Re: Debian Multi-Media.

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:25:51 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:

> Hello Camaleón,
> 
> Am 2011-02-23 19:50:36, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
>> I wasn't saying that they *should* provide _packages_ for oldstable
>> releases but *notify* here -in this same mailing list, where people can
>> then spread those changes elsewhere- for any update in D-M
>> repositories.
> 
> WHY should Christian post it here?

(...)

Did I mention Christian at all?

If you read the full thread you'll find out what (and why) I was asking 
what I asked.

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Re: Debian Multi-Media.

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Camaleón,

Am 2011-02-23 19:50:36, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> I wasn't saying that they *should* provide _packages_ for oldstable 
> releases but *notify* here -in this same mailing list, where people can 
> then spread those changes elsewhere- for any update in D-M repositories.

WHY should Christian post it here?

There is a mailingist for D-M and if he should post here what not on the
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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Celejar]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:08:28 -0500
shawn wilson  wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Celejar  wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 15:48:00 -0500
> > shawn wilson  wrote:
> >
> > > On Feb 24, 2011 3:40 PM, "Celejar"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:22:56 -0500
> > > > Curt Howland  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ...
> > > >
> > > > > But in general, it's necessary to back up only /etc and /home. These
> > > > > are where settings and user data are stored, and rebuilding the whole
> > > > > system it can be better to build the "system" anew, then just recover
> > > > > the user data and any needed custom settings from /etc.
> > > >
> > > > I'd strongly recommend backing up at least parts of /var (what if you
> > > > have mail in the mail spool when the system dies?).
> > > >
> > >
> > > I have a development vm that I backup with a simple svn commit from my
> > home
> > > directory.
> > >
> > > In other words, your backup scheme should depend on what the system is
> > used
> > > for.
> >
> > Certainly - but my advice stands for typical, general purpose desktops,
> > laptops and servers.
> >
> > disclaimer: be warned! in rereading this, i think i wrote more of a rant
> than anything informational. the 'backup everything' statements sorta got to
> me i suppose.
> 
> funny, i don't have a "general purpose" anything that needs all that backed

You may not, but "general purpose" desktop / laptop linux machines are
quite common.  My statements stand.

> up. the closest thing to 'general purpose' i have is graphic terminals - a
> macbook pro and a kubuntu box. however, for those machines, the only thing i
> really care about is my firefox profile. other than that, i have single
> purpose machines / vms - a mac mini media server (has one directory i care
> about), a dev box (backed up with svn), a mysql server (mysqldump does it
> there), drupal test (i'm not backing that up at all :) ), i backup the mini
> and sql server between each other and the sql server holds backups for
> everything else.
> 
>  so, what everyone is saying is that, on any and all linux computers, one
> should keep a backup of:
> /etc - for configurations - why? this is pointless if i don't change
> anything / much. i generally end up shutting down unneeded services on new
> installs, but unless there's apache or slight changes to my.cnf (which i
> always have other machines with edited configs of) i don't really change
> much.

You're missing the point.  Of course those who don't make any config
changes under /etc needn't bother with it, but many of us do.  Just
because linux gives us the flexibility to run very different sorts of
systems doesn't mean that it's bad to give general advice (noting it as
such) that is widely applicable.

> /home - my dev box has a /home/cpan which i rsync daily, do i really want to
> back that up? that's pointless imo. and, there's only one real user there -
> me!

Most /home s on desktop / laptop boxes contain more interesting
things.  See above.

> /var
- WTF? why? tons of useless old logs to delete? a mail spool full of

I said parts of /var.  If you don't get *any* important mail *at all*
in your spool, than by all means don't back it up.  I'm under the
impression that many of us do get real mail there.

> cron telling me that things have been done? my databases that were backed up
> elsewhere? did i leave anything out or is this absolute stupidity?
> /root - oh this is great, here is my crap. yes, full of wget tests or
> partial log files when i'm looking for something but i'm not exactly sure
> what it is. or, c programs that have already been installed (that i've
> probably documented and maybe even made an svn trunk for), i see a file
> called ./fail, ./grep, and ./generate.txt in there too. yeah, i'm sure i'll
> want to go through that pile of crap after rma'ing a hdd.
> /usr/share/perl5 - now i have thought of backing this up (i don't). however,
> if shit hits the fan and i have to spend a day recompiling everything that i
> use (or other modules might use), i'm going to want to kill lots of things -
> probably every things. but, my other thought is that i don't do an update
> until there's a feature or something that i want, so it'd probably be good.
> i'd still want to kill though.


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[OT] programming Dbus

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

This is a long shot, but anyway...

Qt has good dbus classes:
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/examples-dbus.html

However, using their non-GUI examples you can only execute them in X as 
a user.


Anybody tried using dbus as root non-gui like Hal does?

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Celejar]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:55:15 -0600
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:

> On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:49:30 Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:27:20 -0600
> > "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:
> > > NB: I don't keep backups.  I know I should, but I don't.  I gave up after
> > > calculating the size of the pile of DVDs I'd need to back up my 4TB file
> > 
> > Why not use HDDs?
> 
> $$$
> 
> The data store itself costs $$$ which I can barely justify, to keep one 
> backup 
> I'd have to pay 2x$$$ total and that's not justifiable.  I've already had to 
> stymie the normal growth rate of my data store. :(

Ah, okay.  That certainly makes sense.

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Celejar]

[Please don't cc me on replies.]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 15:57:19 +0200
Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 00:47, Celejar  wrote:
> > I always thought my getmail POP setup was pretty typical - I have it
> > configured to use /var/spool/mail/username as the mail spool.  Is that
> > atypical, or a bad idea for some reason?
> >
> 
> It is atypical as it is not webmail! Very few people today are using
> something they access via POP3 or IMAP, and even most of those aren't
> running on their desktop but rather at the company.

Okay, I have no idea of the numbers, but POP3/IMAP is certainly the (or
a) classic way of doing mail.

> I personally use the POP3 / SMTP of my website host, as I hate webmail
> (but gmail is great for mailing lists). But people are surprised when
> they discover that I can't just check and send mail from any computer
> with a web browser. Most people don't even know that there is an
> alternative to webmail.
> 
> Oh, and Exchange is pretty popular too, but that is typically
> associated with business mail, somehow that is a different paradigm
> from "personal mail" for Exchange users.

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Apache spawning hundreds of pids

[Aaron Toponce]

After updating from Lenny to Squeeze, my Apache2 server has been acting
really weird. Hundreds of pids will have been spawned, filling up RAM
and filling up swap, causing the kernel OOM killer to start. Nothing in
/var/log/messages or dmesg gives any indication of what is happening.
Nothing in /var/log/apache2/access.log or error.log either that could be
of help.

This isn't a robust server, so when it happens, it brings the server to
its knees, and it's down for hours before the kernel manages to kill the
pids and restore sanity. Further, there doesn't seem to be any standard
time interval when the pids are created. I've seen the server go 6 hours
after boot before the problems start, and I've seen it go as long as 3
days. It seems entirely arbitrary on when it's going to happen.

I've got kernels 2.6.32-5-686, 2.6.26-2-686 and 2.6.26-1-686 installed.
The problem exists with all three booted kernels. Apache2 version is
2.2.16-6.


StartServers  5   
MinSpareServers   5   
MaxSpareServers  10  
MaxClients  150 
MaxRequestsPerChild   0   


I am not aware of any changes that I have made to the apache2.conf since
the upgrade, nor am I aware of any changes that dpkg made during the
upgrade.

I don't want to reinstall the server unless I absolutely have to. I do
have all my data backed up, so it's not a concern of doing so, it's just
that I don't have the time to dedicate to reinstalling and restoring
data.

What can I do to troubleshoot this problem, and restore sanity to my
Apache installation? Any help will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: To 64 or Not to 64?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:

On 02/24/2011 02:01 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
[snip]


I do program development, compiles, etc. and have to say that for me
64-bit is definitely faster, to wit:


Have you tried Tiny CC?  When it's sufficient for the task, it's compile 
times are pretty fast.


http://global.phoronix-test-suite.com/?k=profile&u=staalmannen-18107-15267-29041 



Have not tried Tiny CC. Almost all my stuff involves Qt, needs g++

Hugo


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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 00:47, Celejar  wrote:
> I always thought my getmail POP setup was pretty typical - I have it
> configured to use /var/spool/mail/username as the mail spool.  Is that
> atypical, or a bad idea for some reason?
>

It is atypical as it is not webmail! Very few people today are using
something they access via POP3 or IMAP, and even most of those aren't
running on their desktop but rather at the company.

I personally use the POP3 / SMTP of my website host, as I hate webmail
(but gmail is great for mailing lists). But people are surprised when
they discover that I can't just check and send mail from any computer
with a web browser. Most people don't even know that there is an
alternative to webmail.

Oh, and Exchange is pretty popular too, but that is typically
associated with business mail, somehow that is a different paradigm
from "personal mail" for Exchange users.

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 22:40, Celejar  wrote:
> I'd strongly recommend backing up at least parts of /var (what if you
> have mail in the mail spool when the system dies?).
>

Also, /var/www might be a bit important. Aren't the MySQL files in /var as well.

I also do /opt if it exists.


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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 17:22, Curt Howland  wrote:
>> I need to dd or cp my laptop's harddrive over the LAN.
>
> Don't use dd if its a mounted file system.
>

Thanks!


> scp will work, but you have to be careful about thing like symlinks
> which scp WILL FOLLOW, and which can increase disk space use.
>
>> scp -r / root@178.63.65.136:/
>
> Two reasons this won't work.
>
> 1) most of the time, "root" login through ssh is blocked.
>
> 2) copying to "/" will overwrite the existing, running, system.
>
> Much better, if you have the disk space on the receiving machine, is
> to make a directory under your normal user,
> like "/home/dotan/Laptop", and do something like this, AS ROOT:
>
> # scp -r / dotan@178.63.65.136:Laptop
>
> and then the entire laptop file system will be available to recover at
> will.
>

Of course, it was only a syntax example.


> But in general, it's necessary to back up only /etc and /home. These
> are where settings and user data are stored, and rebuilding the whole
> system it can be better to build the "system" anew, then just recover
> the user data and any needed custom settings from /etc.
>
>> What is the canonical way of doing this?
>
> Canonical runs Ubuntu, you need to ask that question in the Ubuntu
> forums. This is the Debian user list, and while Ubuntu gets their
> software packages mostly from Debian, they have their own issues with
> versions and custom packages.
>

Nice! I'll use that line next time someone asks me for a canonical matrix!


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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Aaron Toponce]

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:42:51PM +0100, Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> SQL injecting and web forms will not work for ssh directly, unless
> you have a very poorly configured apache+mysql-config. Of course
> there are ways of obtaining someone's password.

Heh. SQL injections can get you all sorts of things. The goal is to get
into the server via any route possible. If you leave the server open to
the outside world, disabling root login via ssh isn't granting you any
security.

> Shared key seems more secure, with a good policy for guarding the
> keys. I am not arguing that. It is just that when you disable root
> logins there's in principle an extra layer of protection. This 'in
> principle' of course only helps when done properly, thus not reusing
> passwords etc.
> The fact that a compromised user account = a compromised machine is
> of course very true. However, when detected it might be that the
> attacker did not manage yet to get root permissions. Thus, it buys
> some time.

There are many paths to root, once the attacker is successfully in.
Privilege escalation exploits, buffer overflows, brute force attacks,
insufficient input sanitization, you name it. Don't think for one second
that attackers don't have vulnerability lists that haven't been
reported. And don't think that as soon as they've broken in, you can
boot them out before any damage is done.

My point is, removing root logins via SSH is not hard security. It's
barely a speed bump to the talented and dedicated. If you want a secure
server, then learn firewalls, mandatory access control, ACLs, chrooted
jails, information intropy for passwords, and keep your damn server
patched. As Anonymous has clearly shown lately, if you're a target,
you'll get damage, one way or the other. Even if all they can do is a
DDOS. Taking root logins out of SSH isn't going to buy you any security.

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 16:04, Karl E. Jorgensen  wrote:
> I would recommend rsync instead - simply because if things go wrong during the
> copy, it can pick up from where it left, rather than restarting from scratch:
>
>        rsync -av --numeric-ids / root@otherhost:/
>
> --numeric-ids is to ensure it uses the _numeric_ user/group IDS on the other
> side. You may find that some users have differnt IDs between machines - e.g.
> IDs that are added by packages (e.g. mysql and stuff).
>
>

Thanks, I actually did once run into the problem of uids on a Fedora
box being different from those on a Debian box.


>> Can I actually use dd over the network, maybe by piping to scp
>> somehow? What is the canonical way of doing this?
>> Thanks!
>
> Yes - if the disks are the same size, it's a no-brainer. My personal 
> preference
> for this is to use "nc" - which is lightweight, but does not do encryption.
>
> On the "source" machine, send it out over the network
>        sourcebox:~# dd if=/dev/sda | nc -l -p 
>
> and on the destination box - which should be running a "live CD" or similar, 
> as
> blasting over a disk which is in use leads to kernel confusion and human
> madness:
>        destbox:~# nc $IP_OF_OTHER_BOX  | dd of=/dev/sda
>
> You may want to use gzip to trade off CPU usage for better network bandwith:
>
>        sourcebox:~# dd if=/dev/sda | gzip | nc -l -p 
>        destbox:~# nc $IP_OF_OTHER_BOX  | gunzip | dd of=/dev/sda
>
> Hope this helps

Thanks Karl!


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[OT] Written communication (was: Debian Multi-Media.)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 12:32:53 +, Lisi wrote:

> On Thursday 24 February 2011 15:05:19 Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:37:42 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> > On 02/23/2011 06:11 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
>> >> When I read it, I felt Camaléon meant ‘What do you guys think?’..
>> >> rather than suggest that the DM team was under any obligation to
>> >> keep us posted with regard to their progress.
>> >>
>> >> Yes..? No..?
>>
>> And that's exactly what I wanted to express.
>>
>> > What I think is that Camaléon in not a native English speaker and so
>> > we have a moral obligation to (i.e. we *should*) forgive her for
>> > making that mistake.
>>
>> Okay, no problem, you can blame me here.
>>
>> But don't forget that one word can have many definitions ("you should
>> update your knowledge on this matter but you are not forced to do it").
>>
>>
> Sorry, Camaleón, but I do not eccept, certainly in en-gb that should,
> even in the negative, can bear this interpretation.  

And it's fine you interpret whatever you want, it happens many times on 
written communication. If in doubt, *ask* for an explanation on the 
meaning of the "supposedly offending words" and I'll try to expand it.

> I agree that "Camaléon is not a native English speaker and so we have a
> moral obligation to (i.e. we *should*) forgive her for making that
> mistake". And that was my reaction and what I did.  But it is still in
> fact a mistake, if that is what you meant. And somewhat ungracious and
> ungrateful to Christian, if used by a native speaker.

I'm afraid you are taking the bad definition for my "should":

http://oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0768280#m_en_gb0768280

You *wrongly* picked my words like meaning "1" (in its first acception), 
but that was just your *free* interpretation of them (and I still fail to 
see why you think I can see any "obligation" over D-M developer for doing 
"anything").

I know I do make many mistakes when I write and express in English but I 
don't think this is the case.

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 15:05, BOYPT  wrote:
> netcat may help:
>
> dd if=/dev/sdX | nc -l 4321
>
> On the other box:
>
> nc ip.of.the.serverbox 4321 | dd of=/dev/sdY
>

Somehow I've never heard of netcat before. That is one handy feline.

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 14:44, Steven Ayre  wrote:
> You can use dd via ssh if you wish. I think the command would be:
> dd if=/dev/sda1 | ssh user@host "dd of=/path/to/sda1.img"
>

Wow, that is really cool. I did not know that dd could be piped as such. Thanks!

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Re: dd or cp over network: should I use scp?

[Dotan Cohen]

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 14:41, Sjoerd Hardeman
 wrote:
> I would use rsync, as it allows compression
>
> rsync -aAXxPz / root@178.63.65.136:/
> where -a preserves permissions, modification times etc
> -A preserves acls
> -X preserves xattrs
> -x keeps you in one filesystem (so you won't copy /dev etc.)
> -P keeps partial copied files for faster stop-and-proceed, and shows a
> progress bar
> -z compresses the data stream
>
> This should give you an identical copy. Good luck!
>

Thanks, Sjoerd, I do use rsync when I need to copy only changes. I
thought that scp would be faster here. But I suppose you're right.
Thanks for the tips on which options to use. I didn't know that -x
keeps one out of /dev!



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Re: Where is the conky package on sqeeze?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:57:35 -0500, Shaffin Bhanji wrote:

> I wanted to install conky as a docapp on Debian 6.0 under gnome but
> cannot find the package, anyone provide some guidance please.

http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/conky

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Re: Debian Multi-Media.

[Lisi]

On Thursday 24 February 2011 15:05:19 Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:37:42 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 02/23/2011 06:11 PM, Chris Jones wrote:
> >> When I read it, I felt Camaléon meant ‘What do you guys think?’..
> >> rather than suggest that the DM team was under any obligation to keep
> >> us posted with regard to their progress.
> >>
> >> Yes..? No..?
>
> And that's exactly what I wanted to express.
>
> > What I think is that Camaléon in not a native English speaker and so we
> > have a moral obligation to (i.e. we *should*) forgive her for making
> > that mistake.
>
> Okay, no problem, you can blame me here.
>
> But don't forget that one word can have many definitions ("you should
> update your knowledge on this matter but you are not forced to do it").
>
> Greetings,
>Camaleón
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>

Sorry, Camaleón, but I do not eccept, certainly in en-gb that should, even in 
the negative, can bear this interpretation.  I agree that "Camaléon is not a 
native English speaker and so we have a moral obligation to (i.e. we 
*should*) forgive her for making that mistake".  And that was my reaction and 
what I did.  But it is still in fact a mistake, if that is what you meant.  
And somewhat ungracious and ungrateful to Christian, if used by a native 
speaker.

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Re: cannot play video/audio after/when streaming flash video on web browser

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:05:21 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:

> 2011/2/23 Camaleón
> 
>> > has anyone experienced the same issue on squeeze amd64?
>>
>> What flash plugin do you have installed (adobe, gnash)? Is it native
>> for your architecture (64-bits) or are you using any wrapper?
> 
> 
> flashplugin-nonfree (adobe)

With any wrapper (32-bits compat) or native version (square beta)?

Have you tried with gnash to check if it happens the same?

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Re: Where does evolution store emails now?

[Dietrich Bollmann]

Hi Camaleón, 

Thanks to your hint I found my mail in ~/.local/share/evolution/mail :)

Thank you very much!

Best wishes, Dietrich


PS:

It would have been nice to inform the users about this change.
I relied on the former directory with other tools...

I wonder if it is possible to configure the directory?


On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 12:10 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:21:41 +0900, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:
> 
> > Where does Evolution store my emails?
> 
> It should be under your user's home.
>  
> > Searching for some old email with grep in the usual folder revealed it
> > to be empty and neither in the preferences nor in the web I can find any
> > hint about the new location used...
> 
> Where does Evolution store my data?
> http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Where_does_Evolution_store_my_data.3F
> 
> Greetings,
> 
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Re: setting parameters of disc /dev/sda failed .

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 13:32:34 +0800, waterloo wrote:

> I use 'nohdparm' in kernel parameter. When booted , I find a line : '
> skipping   (warning)' . So I am sure that error is about hdparm . I
> use below in /etc/hdparm.conf :
> 
> /dev/sda {
>   apm = 254
>   spindown_time = 60
>   dma = on
> }

Disable any customized parameter that you can have set in that file and 
use the deafults.

> I do not revise /etc/default/hdparm .
> 
> What is wrong with settings of hdparm ?

I dunno... maybe you are trying to use an old configuration file, 
incorrect parameters/values or something that your hard disk does not 
support. You better read the man page.

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Re: Where does evolution store emails now?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 14:21:41 +0900, Dietrich Bollmann wrote:

> Where does Evolution store my emails?

It should be under your user's home.
 
> Searching for some old email with grep in the usual folder revealed it
> to be empty and neither in the preferences nor in the web I can find any
> hint about the new location used...

Where does Evolution store my data?
http://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Where_does_Evolution_store_my_data.3F

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Re: Unrecognized security certificate warning is gone

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:37:52 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> I am using Firefox, not Iceweasel, but I think this question should
> apply in either case.  I am trying to connect to work using the Citrix
> client.  I used to get a warning that the certificate was not recognized
> and do I want to continue, or not.  I am no longer getting the warning,
> but Firefox is assuming that I have said NOT to accept the certificate
> and it is closing the connection.  How do I get the warning and question
> back.

Try to open a brand-new session for Firefox, for example, by running it 
as another user or by creating a new profile.

You can also try to start firefox from command line.
 
> BTW, this is happening with Opera and Kazehakase, as well, not just
> Firefox.  Is there some place that all of these browsers would look to
> define this behavior?

I've always thought that every browser handles their certificates 
database (and warnings) independently, but I agree it must a commom point 
here as all browsers are failing in the same manner.

How about your Citrix client? Does it have any settings to manage SSL 
certificates?

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Re: Problems installing VLC [SOLVED]

[AG]

On 25/02/11 11:10, teddi...@tmo.blackberry.net wrote:

AG said:

Actually it was deceptively simple: added a line for unstable in my
sources.list, updated, and then installed vlc.  Hopefully this will not
come back to bite me, but all went very easily.




Just be sure to comment the unstable repos from your sources list after the fact

# apt-get clean
# apt-get update

To flush the repository system, do it now so you don't forget and do an upgrade 
by accident...

I have seen OS's Melt that way, very unsettling... LOL


TeddyB


   


Thanks TeddyB for the reminder.  I did take care of that already, but it 
is a good reminder for those who may follow this thread later.


Cheers

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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Aaron Toponce schreef:

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:51:30PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
For example, you might let one user "sudo" without a password, disable root 
logins via ssh, have every other user (including root) be disabled in 
/etc/shadow, disable password logins via ssh, and have all other non-root 
users have a bogus shell like /bin/false.  That user of course only have one 
entry in authorized_keys, and it is a 4242-bit key.


Or you could an SQL injection, or you could attack a web form, or you
could...
SQL injecting and web forms will not work for ssh directly, unless you 
have a very poorly configured apache+mysql-config. Of course there are 
ways of obtaining someone's password.
Shared key seems more secure, with a good policy for guarding the keys. 
I am not arguing that. It is just that when you disable root logins 
there's in principle an extra layer of protection. This 'in principle' 
of course only helps when done properly, thus not reusing passwords etc.
The fact that a compromised user account = a compromised machine is of 
course very true. However, when detected it might be that the attacker 
did not manage yet to get root permissions. Thus, it buys some time.


Sjoerd



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Re: Things I Don't Understand About Debian

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Dr. Ed Morbius schreef:

on 17:25 Thu 24 Feb, Sjoerd Hardeman (sjo...@lorentz.leidenuniv.nl) wrote:

Dr. Ed Morbius schreef:

on 16:24 Wed 23 Feb, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. (b...@iguanasuicide.net) wrote:

On Wednesday 23 February 2011 15:11:25 Carlos Mennens wrote:

3. Debian installer defaults to creating user group names which is just a
mess.

Actually, I prefer user group names.  I'm not sure I have a
really strong argument for them.  What facts support your
assertion that they are "just a mess".

The most compelling argument I could think of would be that NFS *still*
only allows a maximum of (IIRC) 16 groups IDs to be associated with a
given user.

I said "most compelling".  I didn't say compelling.  IMO this is a
severe deficiency of NFS (of which it's not particularly lacking
otherwise).



Since when does nfs keep track of the groups a user belongs to? So
how can nfs have a limit on the number of groups that a user can
belong to?


Network FILE System.

File attributes:  owner, group, world permissions.

Do the math.


NFS (through version 4) transmits the user's EUID and EGID, as well as
associated groups for any file access operation.  The protocol allows
only 16 groups to be transmitted.  Note that NFS/NIS (the two protocols
are generally used together) effectively define a flat name-group space
across the storage network.

Thanks for the explanation.

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Re: Where is cvsnt package in squeeze?

[azrael]

it's discontinued, maybe you can try another cvs like git, mercurial, or
subversion

On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:23:48 +0100, Mathieu Malaterre
 wrote:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597869
> 
> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:10 AM, g o  wrote:
>> Hi to all,
>>
>>     I'm installed a fresh server with squeeze (debian 6.0) netisntall
>> iso.
>> After installation I have write my sources.list as usual:
>>
>> ## Debian Squeeze sources.list
>>
>> ## Debian security updates:
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
non-free
>>
>> ## Debian.org:
>> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
>> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
>>
>>
>> After that the usual apt-get update with no errors.
>>
>> I've tried to install the cvsnt packages... but no packages found! Where
>> is
>> cvsnt in Lenny there was
>>
>> Any tips?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Where is the conky package on sqeeze?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-02-25 12:10 +0100, Sven Joachim wrote:

> The conky package has been moved to contrib (does anyone know why?)

Found out myself: http://bugs.debian.org/579102.
Quite a pity, I hope this will be solved sometime.

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Re: Problems installing VLC [SOLVED]

[teddieeb]

AG said:

Actually it was deceptively simple: added a line for unstable in my
sources.list, updated, and then installed vlc.  Hopefully this will not
come back to bite me, but all went very easily.




Just be sure to comment the unstable repos from your sources list after the fact

# apt-get clean
# apt-get update

To flush the repository system, do it now so you don't forget and do an upgrade 
by accident...

I have seen OS's Melt that way, very unsettling... LOL


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Re: Where is the conky package on sqeeze?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2011-02-25 11:57 +0100, Shaffin Bhanji wrote:

> I wanted to install conky as a docapp on Debian 6.0 under gnome but
> cannot find the package, anyone provide some guidance please.

The conky package has been moved to contrib (does anyone know why?), you
have to include that in your sources.list to see it.

Sven


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Where is the conky package on sqeeze?

[Shaffin Bhanji]

I wanted to install conky as a docapp on Debian 6.0 under gnome but 
cannot find the package, anyone provide some guidance please.


Thanks,
Shaffin.


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Re: Where is cvsnt package in squeeze?

[Mathieu Malaterre]

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=597869

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:10 AM, g o  wrote:
> Hi to all,
>
>     I'm installed a fresh server with squeeze (debian 6.0) netisntall iso.
> After installation I have write my sources.list as usual:
>
> ## Debian Squeeze sources.list
>
> ## Debian security updates:
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
>
> ## Debian.org:
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
>
>
> After that the usual apt-get update with no errors.
>
> I've tried to install the cvsnt packages... but no packages found! Where is
> cvsnt in Lenny there was
>
> Any tips?
>
> Best regards
>
>
>



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Where is cvsnt package in squeeze?

[g o]

Hi to all,

I'm installed a fresh server with squeeze (debian 6.0) netisntall iso.
After installation I have write my sources.list as usual:

## Debian Squeeze sources.list

## Debian security updates:
deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

## Debian.org:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free


After that the usual apt-get update with no errors.

I've tried to install the cvsnt packages... but no packages found! Where is
cvsnt in Lenny there was

Any tips?

Best regards

Re: How can I disable Internet access for programs running in Wine?

[Pol Hallen]

> I just can find any solution...
> Please help!
> thanks..

create a new user and block it with the rules of iptables

Pol


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How can I disable Internet access for programs running in Wine?

[erikmccaskey64]

I just can find any solution...

Please help!


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Re: cannot play video/audio after/when streaming flash video on web browser

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

2011/2/23 Camaleón 

> On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:01:35 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
>
> > as the title goes, this can only be resolved by closing the web browser
> > (iceweasel, google-chrome, firefox, chromium, epiphany-browser)
> >
> > has anyone experienced the same issue on squeeze amd64?
>
> What flash plugin do you have installed (adobe, gnash)? Is it native for
> your architecture (64-bits) or are you using any wrapper?


flashplugin-nonfree (adobe)

Re: Unrecognized security certificate warning is gone

[Michael Tsang]

On Friday 25 February 2011 12:37:52 Marc Shapiro wrote:
> I am using Firefox, not Iceweasel, but I think this question should
> apply in either case.  I am trying to connect to work using the Citrix
> client.  I used to get a warning that the certificate was not recognized
> and do I want to continue, or not.  I am no longer getting the warning,
> but Firefox is assuming that I have said NOT to accept the certificate
> and it is closing the connection.  How do I get the warning and question
> back.
> 
> BTW, this is happening with Opera and Kazehakase, as well, not just
> Firefox.  Is there some place that all of these browsers would look to
> define this behavior?
> 
> Marc
Is that certificate installed in the system-wide database?
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Re: aptitude upgrade errors

[Kelly Harding]

(I must of been sleep deprived when I replied last month as I
inadvertantly replied directly to godo rather than the list as well)

/var/lib/available seems to be empty I noticed.

Removing virtualbox-2.1 from
/var/lib/dpkg/status doesn't make a difference. It seems it is a bug in
virtualbox-2.1, fixed from 3.1 onwards, but as it stands I cannot use
ANY apt/aptitude/dpkg command on this box till this is fixed.

It won't purge/remove either.

I blogged about it here: http://bit.ly/gSRmbS with attached files from
/var/lib/dpkg/status.


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Re: aptitude upgrade errors

[Kelly Harding]

On 27 January 2011 09:37, Wolodja Wentland  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 07:13 +, Kelly Harding wrote:
>> hi
>>
>> have been getting following errors when tryign to upgrade my Debian sid box:
>>
>> dpkg-query: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line
>
> [...]
>
>> Results in inability to upgrade any packages on the system.
>> Anyone come across this and know how to fix? or is a system re-install 
>> needed?
>
> The easiest way is to restore that file from your backups.
>
> Don't have any? Make some now and: No problem (in this particular
> case) because the system kept some for you.
>
> Have a look at:
>
>    /var/backups/dpkg.status.*
>
> The file named "dpkg.status.0" should be identical to the original
> status file.
>
> There is also /var/lib/dpkg/status.old and other older versions in
> /var/backups/, but I would just move the corrupted file somewhere else,
> and copy /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 over instead.
>
> Does that solve your problem?

I've used diff on all the backups of dpkg.status (all 7) and theres no
difference relating to virtualbox-2.1 in them. the last backup
(dpkg.status.0) is identical to dpkg.status.

I'm at a loss with this.

kelly


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Re: Console resolution

[Dom]

On 18/02/11 20:11, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2011-02-18 20:22 +0100, Dom wrote:


On 18/02/11 18:24, Camaleón wrote:

To make this a bit more clear, nvidia card owners can run either:

a) KMS+nouveau
b) nvidia propietary driver
c) vesa/fb
d) nv (obsolete but still available, AFAICT)



d) is the only option that worked for one of my machines. It used to
run the nvidia driver, but stopped working when I upgraded it to
squeeze and it tried to use the nouveau driver.



My bad. I've checked that machine and remembered that I got nouveau to 
work once I'd removed all traces of the nvidia driver.


The problem I had didn't relate to the display at all. That bit worked. 
However the mythtv backend segfaulted on one of the nvidia libraries. I 
don't know why the backend would even be touching video related stuff.


It works fine with nouveau, and I'll stick with that.


I'll be upgrading that box to Wheezy soon and see if I can get it to
work properly with nouveau then.


To make it clear, upgrading to Wheezy will be uninteresting for quite
some time, because it will have the same nouveau version as Squeeze for
the next few months.  If you want to test a newer version, you need to
upgrade the X stack as well as the kernel to the sid versions.


Yes. I've been running the current testing on most of my systems for 
quite a few years now. In fact, since I found that the the only working 
video driver for my laptop (trident) was in lenny when lenny was testing.


I've since moved my mythtv box to Wheezy without problems, and I don't 
anticipate any major ones in future. However, I'm not daft and I do 
regular backups of all my systems.


Dom


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