why /etc/nethack/nethackrc.console didn't install
I still don't know, but did find something out that was useful. The nethack-console.sh script looks for that file as well as a user's .nethackrc file. So I made me a short .nethackrc file and eliminated that warning when the game starts up. Probably the nethack configuration package which holds things like nethack options and the like got removed from the debian nethack package for some reason. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.00.1107240656080.26...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: problem with ISA SB 16
> Long Wind writes: >> What's in /dev/sndstat? > Use the ls command? It shows it's linked to a file in /proc I guess, the output of either cat(1) or less(1) should be more informative. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86r55guemq@gray.siamics.net
Re: disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy (Live)?
> Camaleón writes: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:28:49 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> How do I disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy? I'm using a custom Debian >> Live image, and it switches to fbcon as soon as it can get to the >> modules! > (...) > What VGA chipset? > I would wonder why the right driver cannot be loaded instead. It's not the implementation that bothers me at the moment, but rather the approach. VGA console works for me, and I see no compelling reason to switch. Especially given the necessity to configure at least the resolution (BTW, I've tried fbset(8), but it apparently refuses to set either 640x512 or 1280x1024) and the font (though setfont(8) works correctly.) Also, I guess that fbcon (in certain configurations) may be incompatible with KVM over IP solutions (see, e. g., [1]), and while I'm not using one at the time, I'd be hesitant to using fbcon on the servers under my control. [1] http://wiki.metawerx.net/wiki/News Moreover, I see that the reboot(8) operation was changed from going through the BIOS to re-initialization of just the kernel. There, the shutting down kernel instance doesn't switch off to a VGA text mode, which is contrary to the assumptions of the starting instance, thus resulting in a screwed display for the initial stages of the boot process. Otherwise, fbcon works pretty much correctly for the case in question. As per lsmod, the driver is i915. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86mxg3vs51@gray.siamics.net
Re: 6rd vs. interfaces(5)
> Johan Kullstam writes: > Ivan Shmakov writes: […] >> Unfortunately, 6rd is only available for Linux 2.6.33 and later (as >> per Wikipedia), which isn't in Squeeze. > It is actually pretty easy to compile and use your own kernel. > Perhaps surprisingly, the kernel interface is pretty stable and you > do not need to upgrade the rest of your world (unlike, say upgrading > an important shared library). I've been compiling my kernels since 1999 or so, but thanks to Debian, I have found some new interests, and thus don't have enough spare time to spend it that way. Given that the newer kernels were already backported to Squeeze, I see little reason to repeat the work that has already been done. […] -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ipqrvrwn@gray.siamics.net
Re: 6rd vs. interfaces(5)
> Rick Thomas writes: > On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:17 AM, Dejan Ribič wrote: > Dne 22.7.2011 11:09, piše Ivan Shmakov: […] >>> Unfortunately, 6rd is only available for Linux 2.6.33 and later >>> (as per Wikipedia), which isn't in Squeeze. […] >> you can install 2.6.38 from squeeze-backports[1], works perfectly. >> [1]http://backports-master.debian.org/Instructions/ > Or, if you already have a home network with more than one computer > (if you're interested in IPv6, I'll bet that description fits you) > I'd recommend to invest a small amount of money ( computer (like an OpenRD or one of the "plug" machines from Marvel, > or an ALIX board from PC-Engines. Well, I've taken a mini-ITX case and an Intel Atom 330-based board as the basis, and assembled such a system almost two years ago. In addition to the router (with NetFlow-based summarization of the passing traffic), it hosts DNS (with DNSSEC), SMTP, HTTP, and Rsync servers, and an HTTP caching proxy. It's currently somewhat undermaintained, but otherwise works correctly. > If you don't care about energy usage, Actually, I do care: these systems are on a UPS, and lower power consumption means better “survival rate” during the blackouts of a few to 20 minutes long. > an even cheaper alternative is to reuse an obsolete PC -- I'll bet > you've got one of them in your garage waiting to be recycled.) (That's not a garage, that's my living room.) Well, I've found that those oldy K6-based systems are comparable to Intel Atom-based ones when it comes to overall power consumption. (I guess that they provide less performance per unit of electric power, though.) > Make that your IPv6 gateway -- run Debian testing on it. Having a > separate single-purpose gateway router has the advantage that you can > experiment with things like firewalls and new drivers without > endangering the rest of your machines. Actually, I guess that experiments with connectivity can give much more trouble than experiments with, say, one's own /home, as they could readily anger the other “interested parties.” Thus, I'd prefer running a Debian “stable” system on a router. > That's what I did. I'm quite pleased with the result. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86ei1fvqxx@gray.siamics.net
Re: IDT High Definition Audio Codec soundcard
On 2011-07-23 13:55, Camaleón wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:10:58 +0200, Andreas Berglund wrote:
On 2011-07-22 17:35, Camaleón wrote:
IDT is a very generic Sigma chipset. You will have to dig a bit into
your system to find out more information about the codec it uses. For
instance, give us the output of:
cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec aplay -L
lspci -nn | grep -i audio
Thanks for the help, I've attached the output of those commands
result of cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
Codec: IDT ID 76c7
(...)
Mmm, that looks like a new sound codec or at least I've never seen that
before.
Have you tried with the usual things (alsamixer/gnome applet volume
control) to configure the Intel card? Ensure you are using the Intel card
because you also have a secondary one, coming from nvidia HDMI ("cat /
proc/asound/cards" will tell what's the default).
Yes I have. The output from that is
0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb30 irq 22
so I guess the intel one is the default. I've also tried running a live
cd of the latest ubuntu version, that didn't work either.
I could only found an Ubuntu bug for a similar card/chipset:
***
[IDT ID 76e7] Dell Latitude E5520 - No sound through internal speakers,
sound is only from headphones output with Ubuntu 10.04.2 and 10.10 -
update Lucid ALSA LBM to latest release (1.0.24)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/792233
***
The bug points to the latest ALSA version but I'm not sure if that will
solve your audio problem. To avoid messing up things, I would first try
to load a LiveCD with the latest ALSA version (1.0.24) and see if that
works. If yes, then consider upgrading ALSA for your Squeeze install.
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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
> Andrew McGlashan writes: […] > The other thing that many people don't seem to understand, is that > sending a large binary file as an attachment requires the attachment > to be encoded back to printable characters -- this can increase the > payload of an email by 50%. Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? […] -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86aac3vqjk@gray.siamics.net
Re: problem with ISA SB 16
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > > I guess, the output of either cat(1) or less(1) should be more > informative. > > […] > > -- Thank Ivan! I reply a little late because I can't access gmail account easily because of firewall of Chinese government (Next time I shall use another email address) below is output by "cat /dev/sndstat": Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sat Dec 26 09:01:51 UTC 2009 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: --- no soundcards --- Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cab-gxzdzdgjuxs_zvbzle4kvnsdyebvkwjp_ar1c3nl1kqx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail >> doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > This problem _should_ _not_ exist. How horrible to need to piece > together parts again later. Think again, find a better solution. The MUA does it for me, there's no problem with that. That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if you know a better solution. -- http://www.asciiribbon.org/ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87pqkz7q7n@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >> What's the point of having good internet connections when you can't use >> them? Making your files publicly available by uploading them somewhere >> or by setting up your own web server may not be what you want. > > What, so you can abuse it? And all the servers involved, people with > email accounts? There isn't any abuse involved. Abuse is possible no matter what the limits are. > Heck, loads of rubbish gets sent via email that is of no use to the > receiver at all. That happens anyway. > And many images are seen once on a computer screen, but come as > multi-megabyte files which will never get printed. And being printed somehow makes an image more important or more valuable? > Run a mail server, back it up properly and tell me if you want super > huge files wasting space there, let alone the resource requirements to > process the junk. Sure, when a file is "huge", whatever that means, it must be junk. > If a file is important, it will be downloaded and it need not be so hard. That isn't any better than sending it by email. Run a web server or an ftp server, back it up properly and tell me if you want super huge files wasting space there, let alone the resource requirements to process the junk ... What's your point? > Downloading via email increases the payload considerably and in many > cases for files that are not wanted or are not wanted in such a large > file size format. Downloading from a file share resource is much more > efficient. It's about 1/3 larger, and we live with that since before mime was invented. If that bothers you so much, develop a better way for attaching files to emails. What is more efficient when people have to spend the extra time to figure out how to up- and download and how to solve security issues involved with transferring the files via http or ftp? Are you going to explain to them how to do it, and are you going to set up the software they might need for it on their computers and show them how to use it? Are you going to convince them when they're telling you that it's way to complicated? >> Which problem? Tight quota limits suck and make an email account >> unusable. > > People have trouble with 40MB quota limits, I've seen one client send > 3 emails in short succession totalling 60MB, that is utter abuse and > most receiver's won't be able to accept that much in their "normal" > sized quotas. There isn't any abuse involved. When you have a quota limit of only 40MB, you'll have to interrupt your vacation every day or two to download your emails to make sure you're not going to be unsubscribed from mailing lists. Such a ridiculously tight limit makes the account unusable. Then try to receive a few photos or some documents you want to have or your friends or relatives want to you to see, and you can't because your limit is too tight. That just sucks, and you're well advised do to something about it when you suffer from such a limit. For example, what do you do when you're asked by people you don't know to send them pictures you took? You set up a web server or give them ftp access and spend hours to explain to them how they can get their pictures? Seriously? Probably not --- you simply ask them for their email address and send the pictures by email. Or /you/ would tell them that they can't get the pictures because you don't want to abuse emails and everything else is too complicated ... > There are many, much better ways to share large files privately, email > is a very bad choice for this requirement. No, email is a very good way to do it. All of the ways have their advantages and disadvantages, of course. I don't know why you so freak out about it, and this discussion seems pretty pointless. -- http://www.asciiribbon.org/ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762mr959y@yun.yagibdah.de
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:44:34 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Camaleón writes: >>> >>> Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option. >>> How do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient >>> can extract the file from the many messages easily? >> >> That's up to the recipient and his MUA >:-) > > What do you do on the sending side? Send the parts as attachments as if > they were complete files rather than parts? The sender has to do nothing special, just attach all of the splitted files and send them as an attachment. I've added an additional md5sum key so the user can check for the integrity of the whole file after it is reconstructed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.13.34...@gmail.com
Re: Backup Software
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:37:34 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:08:48 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Camaleón writes: >>> Encryption at software level adds an extra layer of incompatiblity I prefer to avoid for backups. >>> >>> What is incompatible about creating an archive with tar and then >>> encrypting it with gpg? >> >> Nothing... unless you have to extract the backup files on Windows, >> MacOS, another non-linux system > > Are you saying that when I encrypt a file with gpg on one computer, it's > impossible to decrypt it on another one? You can if you have the proper software installed. My Windows boxes do not have GPG/PGP installed by default, for instance. >> or simply in a computer that has not installed the required program to >> cope with GPG for decrypting. > > Gpg is one of the basic programs that should be installed. On what OSes? :-) > If it isn't, it doesn't hurt to install it. Yes, but for backup files I prefer to do not add an extra layer of complexity that can lead to not be able to view the files. Backup files need to be reliable. > You can say the same for tar or file systems ... Nope, PeaZip is a very good piece of software ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.13.41...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:59:13 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: >> Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a >>> full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be >>> only done from power button, not from keyboard :-? >>> >>> >> Right. That's what I thought. I "believe" that the BIOS Power on from >> Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I >> bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia >> buttons and a "power" button, which I hit, and... it powered off the >> system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM >> keyboard from 1993. >> >> I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will. > > Hitting any key powers up the system. Then that behaviour has no relation with the BIOS setting. You are just awaking the system from hibernation. Now you just need to find out how is that your system can be restored by simple pressing any key as that should only happen for suspended systems not hibernated ones :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.13.45...@gmail.com
Re: ssh: no route to host
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:22:57 +0200, François TOURDE wrote: > Le 15177ième jour après Epoch, > Camaleón écrivait: > >> "No route to host" usually means "I cannot see the machine at all" and >> "I cannot see the machine at all" usually involves: >> >> a) SSH service is not running on the client b) IP of the client is >> unreachable > > I don't agree with that. > > No route to host means: "I or some other router on the road can't find > the hardware associated with the IP given, or the way to reach it". (...) "No route to host" is a generic message that you can get on very different situations. For instance, when your ISP has smtp port of your DSL connection closed and you try to establish a connection on port 25 via telnet with a remote e-mail server, you get a "no route to host" message which basically means that you cannot establish a connection with the selected computer on choosen port but it does not invlove that computer you are trying to reach is "off" or disconnected. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.13.58...@gmail.com
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:23:51 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > lee wrote: >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- >> metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > This problem _should_ _not_ exist. Maybe not in your _ideal world_ but beyond that it does exist. > How horrible to need to piece together parts again later. Think again, > find a better solution. Sometimes there is no better solution. Sometimes there is no other solution. That's the only way I can send files (programs, manuals, FAQs...) to a chap that lives in Cuba and has only access to his e-mail account. No Internet for browsing, no Internet for downloading big files from a provided link. No FTP service for upload or download nothing. They're behind a big proxy and have only access to a very limited Intranet. That's the real world and we have to cope with that :-/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.14.08...@gmail.com
Re: IDT High Definition Audio Codec soundcard
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 13:56:27 +0200, Andreas Berglund wrote:
> On 2011-07-23 13:55, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
>> Have you tried with the usual things (alsamixer/gnome applet volume
>> control) to configure the Intel card? Ensure you are using the Intel
>> card because you also have a secondary one, coming from nvidia HDMI
>> ("cat / proc/asound/cards" will tell what's the default).
>
> Yes I have. The output from that is
> 0 [PCH]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
>HDA Intel PCH at 0xfb30 irq 22
>
> so I guess the intel one is the default. I've also tried running a live
> cd of the latest ubuntu version, that didn't work either.
If we attend to the bug, Ubuntu 11.04 should be fine with this chipset.
Anyway, what's your motherboard? Maybe you can start to look some tip
from there...
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Re: GPU hang "EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop"
On 23/07/11 20:49, lee wrote: Well, you could check the sources of the driver to see if you can find out what's going on or try to run the X server in the debugger to get more information. Or you wait until the bug is fixed or someone who knows more has an idea --- or you can use the NVIDIA card instead of the intel one or you don't do anything that triggers the freeze. Well, the bug is not that important for me, as it only occurred a couple of times unexpectedly, but I guess it is important for the community as it can lead to a lot of lost work if you are not saving it frequently. For me, I can always resort to openoffice under wine to edit that spreadsheet and avoid the bug, as per your advice. But I think I have in my hands a precious tool to help debugging this, meaning, a consistent method of replicating this bug, and that's why I'm keep pursuing this. You seem much more expert than me on these matters so, if you think my contribution is not relevant, I beg you to say so because a have a lot more things that need my time. Given that, I did Ctl+Alt+F1, logged in as user, sudo service gdm stop to stop xserver. Then sudo gdb startx but the system says it's not an executable. How do I run xserver in the debugger? rgds jss -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp119626ec19e68ee337752a6d0...@phx.gbl
Re: pppoeconf can't find new Verizon DSL modem
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:53:46 -0400, Thomas H. George wrote: > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 04:28:25PM +0530, Mahesh T Pai wrote: >> Camaleón writes: >> >> >> > Maybe you only need to set the new modem with the same parameters >> > (local IP address -or dhcp- settings, username/pass, etc...) of the >> > old one. >> > >> > Also, review "pppoeconf" logs. >> >> That configures the "modem" as a router. > > I don't want to configure the modem as a router. The man page for > pppoeconf says it is just a user friendly program to set up pppoe. Pppoeconf should have no problem to setup the dsl device. My guess is that your firewall is the one making noise here. (if you directly connect your computer to the modem and launch pppoeconf it should work) > My problem is that pppoeconf cannot find the access accumulator (the dsl > modem). The ppp-connect-errors log is full of "Waiting for PADQ packet" > lines. (...) Put the full logs here so we can review it (omit any sensitive data). Have you compared both DSL modems (the old one and the new)? Do they share the same configuration? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.14.23...@gmail.com
Re: disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy (Live)?
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:23:54 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Camaleón writes: On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 06:28:49 >> +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > >> How do I disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy? I'm using a custom Debian > >> Live image, and it switches to fbcon as soon as it can get to the > >> modules! > > > (...) > > > What VGA chipset? > > > I would wonder why the right driver cannot be loaded instead. > > It's not the implementation that bothers me at the moment, but rather > the approach. VGA console works for me, and I see no compelling reason > to switch. Especially given the necessity to configure at least the > resolution (BTW, I've tried fbset(8), but it apparently refuses to set > either 640x512 or 1280x1024) and the font (though setfont(8) works > correctly.) Console fonts (face and size) can be tweaked from "/etc/default/console-setup". > Also, I guess that fbcon (in certain configurations) may be > incompatible with KVM over IP solutions (see, e. g., [1]), and while > I'm not using one at the time, I'd be hesitant to using fbcon on the > servers under my control. > > [1] http://wiki.metawerx.net/wiki/News > > Moreover, I see that the reboot(8) operation was changed from going > through the BIOS to re-initialization of just the kernel. There, the > shutting down kernel instance doesn't switch off to a VGA text mode, > which is contrary to the assumptions of the starting instance, thus > resulting in a screwed display for the initial stages of the boot > process. > > Otherwise, fbcon works pretty much correctly for the case in question. > As per lsmod, the driver is i915. Intel KMS requires fbcon, unless this has changed recently... and for Intel cards KMS is also mandatory, so I dunno what to suggest :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.15.33...@gmail.com
Icedove 5.0 - when?
Hi, I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could you point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will Debian Mozilla Team release a "debranded" version of Thunderbird = Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c3b62.8090...@gmail.com
manually adding root certificates
Hi, does anyone here have experience with adding CA certificates to Debian? My ISP is using "USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA" as its issuer and that CA does not appear to be included in ca-certificates. I have not been able to find the corresponding certifcate via UTN's (now Comodo's) website, I had to use a search engine to point me to tbs-x509.com to find the certificate. So much for trustworthiness... any way, the certificate appears legit since it does complete the certificate chain: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts -CApath . depth=2 /C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 /C=US/ST=UT/L=Salt Lake City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify return:1 [..] Verify return code: 0 (ok) Now, according to /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian I should be able to drop this certificate in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, run update-ca-certificates and be done with it. But this does not appear to be sufficient, because I still get this: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=27:certificate not trusted verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=21:unable to verify the first certificate verify return:1 [..] Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate) Oddly enough (for me at least), when I manually specify the CApath to the system default, it does work: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ depth=2 /C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 /C=US/ST=UT/L=Salt Lake City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify return:1 :~/tst$ openssl verify /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem: OK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724173510.76440...@neminis.loos.site
Re: Icedove 5.0 - when?
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:33:54 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: > I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could you > point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will > Debian Mozilla Team release a "debranded" version of Thunderbird = > Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? I, running lenny, finally had to install it from Mozilla site, both, Firefox and Thunderbird and now I'm a happy camper again :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.15.43...@gmail.com
Seamonkey 2.2 illegal instruction after upgrading to it
I an run Debian squeeze and i do use Iceape as Default if i have a problem with other browser I have Seamonkey 2.2 install in my home dir it was working before i upgraded. I run it from the command line i get illegal instruction. I did download it and ran it from the commmand line i get the same error On the Debian testing computer i have to problems running seamonkey 2.2 Just wanted to know what my problem is with Seamonkey 2.2 on the Debian Squeeze computer Johnny -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c3e00.7090...@gmail.com
RE: manually adding root certificates
[mental note: crtl+enter in claws is a shortcut for "send message". Do not use] Hi, does anyone here have experience with adding CA certificates to Debian? My ISP is using "USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA" as its issuer and that CA does not appear to be included in ca-certificates. I have not been able to find the corresponding certifcate via UTN's (now Comodo's) website, I had to use a search engine to point me to tbs-x509.com to find the certificate. So much for trustworthiness... any way, the certificate appears legit since it does complete the certificate chain: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts -CApath . depth=2 /C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 /C=US/ST=UT/L=Salt Lake City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify return:1 [..] Verify return code: 0 (ok) Now, according to /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian I should be able to drop this certificate in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, run update-ca-certificates and be done with it. But this does not appear to be sufficient, because I still get this: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=20:unable to get local issuer certificate verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=27:certificate not trusted verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify error:num=21:unable to verify the first certificate verify return:1 [..] Verify return code: 21 (unable to verify the first certificate) Oddly enough (for me at least), when I manually specify the CApath to the system default, it does work: :~/tst$ openssl s_client -connect pop3.concepts.nl:995 -showcerts -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ depth=2 /C=US/O=Entrust.net/OU=www.entrust.net/CPS incorp. by ref. (limits liab.)/OU=(c) 1999 Entrust.net Limited/CN=Entrust.net Secure Server Certification Authority verify return:1 depth=1 /C=US/ST=UT/L=Salt Lake City/O=The USERTRUST Network/CN=USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA verify return:1 depth=0 /C=NL/postalCode=4817 KK/ST=Noord-Brabant/L=Breda/street=St Ignatiusstraat 265/O=Concepts ICT/OU=Techniek/OU=Comodo PremiumSSL Legacy/CN=pop3.concepts.nl verify return:1 :~/tst$ openssl verify /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem: OK So, the correct certificate appears to be installed in /etc/ssl/certs, it appears to be valid, yet I cannot connect unless I specify an explicit path to the certificate file. What am I missing here? Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/snt108-w17915fbe3bfaddff1c46c3b8...@phx.gbl
Re: OT: Software that will populate a database from csv data?
George (pinkisntw...@gmail.com on 2011-07-23 19:35 +0300): > On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Liam O'Toole > wrote: > > In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote: > >> I'm looking for software that will accept as input a csv file and > >> a database schema and will populate the database with the data in > >> the csv. I'm not talking about something simple that will fill a > >> single table, but rather something that can work foreign key > >> constraints and can respect one-to-many, many-to-one and > >> many-to-many relations. > > > > I don't have an answer to your question but I have to ask: how do > > expect to express all of the above in a simple CSV file? > > The data will be in the CSV file. The database schema will be needed > as well, along > with a mapping of CSV columns to database table columns. I don't think you will easily find one. Compared to designing a database schema and a meaningful csv mapping, writing a csv parser is trivial (hint: awk). Since the only interesting part of your question (the field->column mapping) is highly solution-dependant, I don't think anyone will have ever bothered to write such a converter in a generic way, and even if someone did, the burden of publishing and maintaining it is far greater than its occasional use. But in case you are using the only RDBMS that matters: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.0/static/sql-copy.html Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724180558.6cf4a...@neminis.loos.site
Re: Icedove 5.0 - when?
Dne 24.7.2011 17:43, piše Camaleón: On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:33:54 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could you point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will Debian Mozilla Team release a "debranded" version of Thunderbird = Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? I, running lenny, finally had to install it from Mozilla site, both, Firefox and Thunderbird and now I'm a happy camper again :-) Greetings, Hi, I could do that, but since I am running Debian, I for one would like the Icedove 5.0, I am currently running 3.1.11 and I can certainly wait awhile longer, it just seems strange to me since Iceweasel 5.0 is avaible, that Icedove is not. Cheers, Dejan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c45e4.4040...@gmail.com
Re: Icedove 5.0 - when?
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:18:44 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: > Dne 24.7.2011 17:43, piše Camaleón: >> On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:33:54 +0200, Dejan Ribič wrote: >> >>> I am sorry if this is the wrong list to ask this(if it is could >>> you >>> point me to right one?). But I was wondering if or rather when will >>> Debian Mozilla Team release a "debranded" version of Thunderbird = >>> Icedove? Or was Icedove discontinued? >> I, running lenny, finally had to install it from Mozilla site, both, >> Firefox and Thunderbird and now I'm a happy camper again :-) > > I could do that, but since I am running Debian, I for one would > like the Icedove 5.0, I am currently running 3.1.11 and I can certainly > wait awhile longer, it just seems strange to me since Iceweasel 5.0 is > avaible, that Icedove is not. I'd say that Mozilla products in Debian are a bit special... you will have to wait until it is available under http://mozilla.debian.net/ You can follow devel's blog to get in touch: http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2115 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.16.29...@gmail.com
how do patches get to Debian kernel package?
Hi Debian users, Upgrading from old stable (Lenny) to stable (Squeeze) broke X on my machine. The problem centers around the video chip on the Asus M2A-VM motherboard, and, perhaps the attached Samsung monitor attached. I am not certain, but I believe this discussion at lkml.org pertains: https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/21/244 where a kernel patch for the problem is proposed. My question to this list is a request for a sketch of the process how the patch discussed at lkml.org would get into Debian's kernel image package. Is there a resource where I can see whether the patch was indeed accepted into the Linux kernel source? What roughly, is process to get from there to a compiled Debian package? I'm sure it's all out there, but a few words from a knowledgeable participant would be greatly appreciated. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cam-_jtm2ator426gy0xmcquntxbyxgzr27b5+bbzzjc6fx3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: manually adding root certificates
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:35:10 +0200, Arno Schuring wrote: > does anyone here have experience with adding CA certificates to Debian? > My ISP is using "USERTrust Legacy Secure Server CA" as its issuer and > that CA does not appear to be included in ca-certificates. (...) > Now, according to /usr/share/doc/ca-certificates/README.Debian I should > be able to drop this certificate in /usr/local/share/ca-certificates, > run update-ca-certificates and be done with it. But this does not appear > to be sufficient, because I still get this: (...) Just for testing purposes... have you tried to drop the cert file under "/ usr/share/ca-certificates" (I mean, instead using the "local" dir) and then run "update-ca-certificates"? (...) > :~/tst$ openssl verify /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem > /etc/ssl/certs/USERTrustLegacySecureServerCA.pem: OK ls -l /etc/ssl/certs | grep -i usertrust Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.16.48...@gmail.com
Re: disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy (Live)?
> Camaleón writes: > On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:23:54 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] >> Otherwise, fbcon works pretty much correctly for the case in >> question. As per lsmod, the driver is i915. > Intel KMS requires fbcon, unless this has changed recently... and for > Intel cards KMS is also mandatory, so I dunno what to suggest :-) What do you mean by “mandatory”? I've ran the system without both the i915 module and fbcon, and had no problems with that setup so far. In particular, X works correctly. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8662mrv8p8@gray.siamics.net
Re: problem with ISA SB 16
> Long Wind writes: > On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:01 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> I guess, the output of either cat(1) or less(1) should be more >> informative. […] > below is output by "cat /dev/sndstat": > Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) > Kernel: Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sat Dec 26 09:01:51 UTC 2009 i686 > Config options: 0 > Installed drivers: > Type 10: ALSA emulation > Card config: > --- no soundcards --- […] Well, I guess that the card was somehow left undetected by snd-sb16. I wonder, why isapnp was disabled? Could it be enabled, or could the card's configuration be specified explicitly via the module parameters (use $ /sbin/modinfo snd-sb16 to get the list; port=, irq=, dma8=, dma16= are the usual ones.) -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/861uxfv80y@gray.siamics.net
udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 14:36 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 04:58:27 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 15:40 +0200, Stephen Powell wrote:
> >> ...
> >> Issue "man udisks" for more information.
> >
> > Yes, this one did the trick...
> >
> > tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --mount /dev/fd0
> > Mounted /org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Is it possible to make mount aware of UDisks/devices/fd0 and the like?
>
> Remember, "mount" was here first,
> and "udisks" is a recent thing. Under the covers, udisks is no doubt
> calling mount. The problem arose because makers of graphical
> desktop environments, such as GNOME, wanted devices to mount
> automatically, "just like Windows". So they came up with this
> udisks daemon to try to emulate Windows behavior. And the udisks
> daemon causes problems for those who are used to doing manual mounts
> with the Linux mount command. I'm reasonably sure that the attitude
> of the people who support the mount and umount commands will be,
> "Hey, our stuff works as designed, just as it always did. The
> udisks people broke it, and the udisks people should fix it."
>
> The udisks daemon and the udisks command do provide useful function,
> but not in a totally forward-compatible way. Sometimes they
> interfere with stuff that used to work. An example is apt-cdrom
> and aptitude or apt-get when processing mountable media. You
> may be able to get the desired behavior by using the "--inhibit-polling"
> option of the udisks command in a separate window to temporarily
> disable polling by the udisks daemon while you run older software
> that is incompatible with the udisks behavior
Just finding my way around with udisks.
Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
Where in, floppy is set as,
...
# PC floppy drives
#
KERNEL=="fd*", ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}="1"
...
Still not any wiser about udisks
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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
Hi, lee wrote: That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if you know a better solution. 100M logfiles via email is way too unreasonable. Good luck to you, hope you get videos of hundreds of MB and you have to download them via a 3G data service some day. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c6f23.2030...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
Camaleón wrote: That's the only way I can send files (programs, manuals, FAQs...) to a chap that lives in Cuba and has only access to his e-mail account. No Internet for browsing, no Internet for downloading big files from a provided link. No FTP service for upload or download nothing. They're behind a big proxy and have only access to a very limited Intranet. That's the real world and we have to cope with that :-/ It's certainly the exception, I don't have to live with it ;-) and I won't. Cheers -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c6fa1.80...@affinityvision.com.au
Wine questions
I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I am trying to get wine working on my system. I installed the latest wine-unstable (1.3.24) debs as well as winetricks, and have failed at not only games that are listed as gold on db.winehq.org (e.g. BattleZone and Dangerous Waters), but also games like the Starcraft II demo and the Age of Empires demo, which are automagically configured through winetools. I'm wondering if it is not a result of the 32bit userland with a 64bit kernel issue I posted about the other day, but I though I would post to the list since the failure is so complete that I thought it may be something I was doing wrong. I plan to try on my laptop which is pure 64bit. I did have crossover 9 working on this machine, and was able to get original Starcraft working on it, but it got long in the tooth and I didn't upgrade to 10 before it would have cost me full price. Anyone got any pointers or suggestions on getting wine working well in Debian? Thanks, --b
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
Ivan Shmakov wrote: Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? Won't that vary by file? It's never going to be the same for every file. It's still alot of extra overhead, not just the extra data. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c7279.2050...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: Do I own an unsupported optical IDE drive?
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 20:47 +0200, Horace Dynamite wrote: > On 22 July 2011 18:27, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:54:00 +0100, Horace Dynamite wrote: > > > >> On 22 July 2011 16:43, Camaleón wrote: > >>> Uff, have you tried with another IDE cable? Those seem hardware errors. > >> > >> I installed the Debian system using this optical drive, so I think this > >> proves that my optical drive and IDE cable are working properly, for, it > >> was only three days ago that I installed Debian. Is that true? > > > > Well, the unit can be in its finals days and the fact you could install > > from it with no apparent/visible errors is not a proof of its health... > > BTW, how old is it? > > 2 years old. I've just booted into a Ubuntu Live CD, which I believe > implies the electronics are working. > > > Then you can re-sit the current one, just in case it has been slightly > > moved or became loose. > > I took it out, re-sat, booted the LiveCD again, it worked. Yet I still > get these hardware errors. > > Thanks for your time, > > Horace. > > How is your drive reported by the kernel. As SCSI/ATA or IDE ? On my machine, the kernel boots as SCSI/ATA with IDE devices. I rebuilt my custom kernel, where it can boot as E-IDE with IDE devices. On linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 - debian default kernel tcat@lynx:~$ dmesg | grep scsi [2.299497] scsi0 : pata_via [2.300477] scsi1 : pata_via [2.698385] scsi 1:0:0:0: CD-ROMSONY CD-RW CRX160E 1.0e PQ: 0 ANSI: 5 [2.803991] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 On my custom ide kernel, linux-image-2.6.32-10.00.Custom tcat@lynx:~$ dmesg | grep hdc [3.880272] hdc: SONY CD-RW CRX160E, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive [4.720357] hdc: host max PIO5 wanted PIO255(auto-tune) selected PIO4 [4.725161] hdc: UDMA/33 mode selected [5.142772] ide-cd: hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 4096kB Cache Just curious, not sure if I can help. I am struggling with a lot of new stuff in Squeeze. Regards -- Tomas Kral -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311535696.2620.3.camel@lynx.localhost.localdomain
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
> Andrew McGlashan writes: > Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? > Won't that vary by file? I guess it won't. Base64 sends each 6-bit of data as an ASCII character, which is (usually) represented by an octet. This gives exactly 4 octets of output for every 3 octets of input: (* 4 6) => 24 (* 3 8) => 24 The only variation that Base64 has is that the output is padded to the 4-octet boundary (with up to two ='s), but the effects of this are negligible for the files of more than a few kiB long. > It's never going to be the same for every file. It's not unusual to compress the files before the Base64 encoding is applied. And indeed, the compression ratio may vary. > It's still alot of extra overhead, not just the extra data. Yes. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86wrf7tokx@gray.siamics.net
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
On 24/07/11 22:23, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >> Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? Add another 3,33% for CRLF each 80 encoded characters (2 caharacters each 60 bytes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2c8034.9010...@rail.eu.org
Re: disable fbcon in Debian Wheezy (Live)?
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 01:23:47 +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Camaleón writes: On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 18:23:54 >> +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > […] > > >> Otherwise, fbcon works pretty much correctly for the case in > >> question. As per lsmod, the driver is i915. > > > Intel KMS requires fbcon, unless this has changed recently... and for > > Intel cards KMS is also mandatory, so I dunno what to suggest :-) > > What do you mean by “mandatory”? I've ran the system without both the > i915 module and fbcon, and had no problems with that setup so far. In > particular, X works correctly. I remember a problem with intel driver and fbcon not being loaded that caused X to crash, but maybe this has already been corrected. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.07.24.20.52...@gmail.com
Re: Backup Software
On 20110722_181654, Siard wrote: > Michael Checca: > > Camaleón: > > > Ethan Rosenberg: > > > > What software would you recommend to backup a Debian system on a > > > > stand-alone computer? > > > > > > tar + compression > > > > +1 for simplicity :) > > Nowadays' harddisks have plenty of space, so I would make it even > simpler: > > cp -a > > The advocates of rsnapshot, above, seem to think that automatic, and scheduled backups are important enough to be worth some extra effort on setup. I wonder, how often a simplicity advocate actually does a backup? And how they remind themselves when it is time to do another? How many point backups does one keep? Etc. etc. Because of this thread, I have looked into rsnapshot. It is very attractive, but I think writing the include/exclude filter for the underlying rsync is non-trivial --- should I write an exclude for the private key in .ssh/ ? Etc. A simple backup, like cp -a, is appropriate just prior to some major physical changes in hardware setup even if one has an automatic system in place. But just prior to the first lightning strike of a thunderstorm? I wonder. I know that contending opinion makes for a interesting conversation, but maybe there is some middle ground advice that someone could offer. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724210503.gc4...@cmpq.lan.gnu
Re: problem with ISA SB 16
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > Well, I guess that the card was somehow left undetected by > snd-sb16. > > I wonder, why isapnp was disabled? Could it be enabled, or > could the card's configuration be specified explicitly via the > module parameters (use $ /sbin/modinfo snd-sb16 to get the list; > port=, irq=, dma8=, dma16= are the usual ones.) > my memory is poor I have added kernel option noisapnp to etch I check /boot/grub/menu.lst and add the option to lenny This time lenny work (maybe the card is a clone, not very very compatible) Thank Ivan anyway! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZAgiD0y=czckj3v7lramtzdaursffydpkrb13jzslr...@mail.gmail.com
iptables & libvirt
Hi, i've configured a few virtual machines with libvirt-bin. The VMs live behind a virtual network. $ sudo virsh net-dumpxml default default 0c2cb263-e12b-8bf5-54af-1da612561cc0 libvirt maintains some iptable rules to make NAT work. My problem is, maintaining my own set of additional rules. I'd like to use something like `ferm', but when I change something in ferm.conf and reload the rules, the rules of libvirt are deleted. I've tried: $ virsh net-destroy default $ firm $ virsh net-start default But the VMs remain unreachable after the destroy. (I've to restart them) Another approach would be telling virtsh to write iptables rules to stdout. So one could do: $ frim $ virtsh iptables-rules | sh But I haven't found something like that. Any ideas on how to integrate libvirt with my own set of iptable rules? Bye, Kurt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724211536.GA24653@nuts
Re: udisks and devices [was cannot mount floppy]
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:49:06 -0400 (EDT), Tomas Kral wrote:
>
> Just finding my way around with udisks.
> Read man pages, but I could not find any docs in /usr/share/doc/udisks
>
> tcat@lynx:~$ udisks --inhibit-polling /dev/fd0
> Inhibit polling failed: Media detection cannot be inhibited
>
> Floppy polling cannot be inhibited as it seems.
>
> I looked for a user configuration file, could not find any
> There is only a rule file /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks.rules
>
> Where in, floppy is set as,
> ...
> # PC floppy drives
> #
> KERNEL=="fd*", ENV{ID_DRIVE_FLOPPY}="1"
> ...
>
> Still not any wiser about udisks
>
I just tried it myself. This seems to work with a CD-ROM drive,
but fails with a floppy drive, as you discovered.
Is there some specific task that you are trying to accomplish?
Are you able to mount and unmount floppy disks using the udisks
command?
Or are you just trying to learn more about udisks? If so,
here are some sources of information:
man 1 udisks
man 7 udisks
man polkit
man udisks-daemon
man udisks-tcp-bridge
/usr/share/doc/udisks/*
Separate Debian package udisks-doc
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/udisks
HTH
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Re: ssh: no route to host
Le 15179ième jour après Epoch, Camaleón écrivait: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:22:57 +0200, François TOURDE wrote: [...] >> >> No route to host means: "I or some other router on the road can't find >> the hardware associated with the IP given, or the way to reach it". > > (...) > > "No route to host" is a generic message that you can get on very > different situations. "No route to host" is the consequence of receiving an ICMP "host unreachable" error. It means the ARP resolution failed for reaching the next hop. > For instance, when your ISP has smtp port of your DSL connection closed > and you try to establish a connection on port 25 via telnet with a remote > e-mail server, you get a "no route to host" message which basically means > that you cannot establish a connection with the selected computer on > choosen port but it does not invlove that computer you are trying to > reach is "off" or disconnected. When your ISP, like mine, is blocking the xx port, you should receive a "connection timed out" message. That's what I receive: francois@fermat:~$ telnet gmail.com 25 Trying 209.85.147.17... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out But perhaps you didn't receive the same error? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ei1ftiqn@fermat.tourde.home
sound problem with lenny
most times the sound card works but sometime it doesn't, and then I reboot, it always works I really can't reproduce the problem for sure below is output of "cat /dev/sndstat" when it doesn't work: Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux debian 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Sat Dec 26 09:01:51 UTC 2009 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: Internal PC-Speaker at port 0x61 Audio devices: 0: pcsp Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 7: system timer Mixers: 0: PC-Speaker it use PC Speaker Could you help me? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZC2KshNBkT-bB=W+5O7HXGLOWCVBJe07RNDywoePy4=z...@mail.gmail.com
Re: rsync backup question
On 20110722_142620, lee wrote: > "Thomas H. George" writes: > > > I partitioned a 1 TG usbdrive as ext3, mounted it as /usbmem > > [...] > > > > My object had been to backup everything before moving from Squeeze to > > Wheezy > > > > Any Suggestions? > > There isn't much point in using rsync since you're neither copying to a ^^ If the copy job fails 3/4 way thru, one can pick up the pieces and continue using rsync. So even if it is a one time job, it is worth knowing about rsync and how to use it. > remote host, nor can you save time by copying only modified files > because it's the first and probably only copy. > -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724212428.gd4...@cmpq.lan.gnu
Re: Wine questions
On 25/07/11 05:20, Brad Alexander wrote: > Anyone got any pointers or suggestions on getting wine working well in > Debian? > > Thanks, > --b > # apt-get install playonlinux http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ 3 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft 4 out of 5 Stars - StarCraft - Brood War (Digital Distribution Copy) 4 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft : BroodWar 3 1/2 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft II Wings of Liberty NOTE: I'm not a gamer so I've no idea what they play like. And of course there's always Crossover Cheers -- "And if I can take part in it by transforming my own consciousness, then someone else's, I'm happy to do it." Bill Hicks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e2caf6e.7020...@gmail.com
fstab for usb devices in Squeeze
Hello. Back in the good old days when I used Lenny, I was able to mount my usb stick, mount my digital camera, and sync my palm pilot, at the same time. After upgrading to Squeeze, this now seems like an impossible dream. My fstab file used to look like this: # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # proc/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/hda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 /dev/hda5 noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 vfat,msdosrw,user,noauto 0 0 /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat noauto,user 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/usb2 vfatnoauto,user 0 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/usb3 vfatnoauto,user 0 0 Now, it has all these messy unreadable entries like "UUID=14c375f6-91a3-45cd-b12a-d06b507c9dfe" in it. What does this mean? I use Fluxbox, on an old Dell OptiPlex GX1. Whenever I try to mount and read the files on my digital camera, I am told I have "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock". There's some strange entry in the current (and now incomprehensible) fstab that reads: "UUID=A456-E995 /media/usb vfat noauto,user 0 0" I think this might be for my usb stick, which sometimes I can mount and read. But, when I try to read images from my digital camera, via plugging it in and mounting /media/usb, it tells me that "mount: special device UUID=A456-E995 does not exist". How I yearn for the good old days of Lenny. But, I digress. Can someone tell me how to fix my fstab to get it so I can once again mount my usb devices (specifically the camera)? Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110724195137.76a39...@torfree.net
Re: Wine questions
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:49 PM, Scott Ferguson < prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 25/07/11 05:20, Brad Alexander wrote: > > > > > Anyone got any pointers or suggestions on getting wine working well in > > Debian? > > > > Thanks, > > --b > > > > # apt-get install playonlinux > > http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ > > 3 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft > 4 out of 5 Stars - StarCraft - Brood War (Digital Distribution Copy) > 4 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft : BroodWar > 3 1/2 out of 5 Stars - Starcraft II Wings of Liberty > I'll give that a try... > > NOTE: I'm not a gamer so I've no idea what they play like. > I'm generally not either, but I recently ran across some abandoned games from back in the day...And a few were Windows based...So I wanted to mess with them. > And of course there's always Crossover > Yeah, but the problem with Crossover is that you are locked in to a buying cycle. The version you bought ages, and works less and less well with modern versions of Debian. So next year, you have to buy the upgraded version...And if you aren't really on the ball, you wind up going outside of your customer discount and have to pay full price for the updated version. *shrug* I'll mess with it. Thanks for the advice, Scott. --b
Re: fstab for usb devices in Squeeze
On Sunday 24 July 2011 03:51:37 pm Mark Grieveson wrote: > Hello. Back in the good old days when I used Lenny, I was able to > mount my usb stick, mount my digital camera, and sync my palm pilot, > at the same time. After upgrading to Squeeze, this now seems like an > impossible dream. > > My fstab file used to look like this: > > # /etc/fstab: static file system information. > # > # > proc/proc procdefaults0 0 > /dev/hda1 / ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro > 0 1 /dev/hda5 noneswapsw > 0 0 /dev/hdc/media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto > 0 0 /dev/fd0/media/floppy0 vfat,msdosrw,user,noauto > 0 0 /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat > noauto,user 0 0 /dev/sdb1 /media/usb2 > vfat noauto,user 0 > 0 /dev/sdc1 /media/usb3 vfatnoauto,user 0 0 > > Now, it has all these messy unreadable entries like > "UUID=14c375f6-91a3-45cd-b12a-d06b507c9dfe" in it. What does this > mean? > > I use Fluxbox, on an old Dell OptiPlex GX1. Whenever I try to mount > and read the files on my digital camera, I am told I have "wrong fs > type, bad option, bad superblock". > > There's some strange entry in the current (and now incomprehensible) > fstab that reads: > > "UUID=A456-E995 /media/usb vfat noauto,user 0 0" > > I think this might be for my usb stick, which sometimes I can mount > and read. But, when I try to read images from my digital camera, via > plugging it in and mounting /media/usb, it tells me that "mount: > special device UUID=A456-E995 does not exist". > > How I yearn for the good old days of Lenny. But, I digress. Can > someone tell me how to fix my fstab to get it so I can once again mount > my usb devices (specifically the camera)? > > Mark I use 'blkid' from a term to help manage my file systems,' blkid' has a man page . No two devices have the same UUID, hence they all need separate fstab entries. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201107241728.33185.gomadtr...@gci.net
debian sensible browser help
I am running squeeze w/ gnome desktop. I am attempting to use google-chrome as my browser, but I also use Mutt as my MUA. Under some situations, maybe always, but it is confusing, when I am presented with an email containing HTML, I am but into Iceweasel rather than google-chrome. I had thought the update-alternatives could fix this, but there is not a sensible browser name in u-a. Googling brings up only hits from several years ago, and only complaints, not solutions. How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser defined? I'd like to keep iceweasel installed so that I can use it when I choose to, but I never want it to be automatic -- at least until, and if, I choose to reject google-chrome. Suggestions? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110725022459.ga15...@cmpq.lan.gnu
Re: ssh: no route to host
> François TOURDE writes: > Le 15179ième jour après Epoch, Camaleón écrivait: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:22:57 +0200, François TOURDE wrote: >>> No route to host means: "I or some other router on the road can't find >>> the hardware associated with the IP given, or the way to reach it". >> "No route to host" is a generic message that you can get on very >> different situations. > "No route to host" is the consequence of receiving an ICMP "host > unreachable" error. It means the ARP resolution failed for reaching > the next hop. … Or ICMP “host unreachable — admin prohibited filter”? See, e. g., [1]. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490854 >> For instance, when your ISP has smtp port of your DSL connection closed >> and you try to establish a connection on port 25 via telnet with a remote >> e-mail server, you get a "no route to host" message which basically means >> that you cannot establish a connection with the selected computer on >> choosen port but it does not invlove that computer you are trying to >> reach is "off" or disconnected. > When your ISP, like mine, is blocking the xx port, you should receive > a "connection timed out" message. > That's what I receive: > francois@fermat:~$ telnet gmail.com 25 > Trying 209.85.147.17... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out > But perhaps you didn't receive the same error? That's what happens when the packets are dropped, without any ICMP message whatsoever. In iptables(8) terms, compare: -A FORWARD -d 192.0.2.0/24 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j DROP -A FORWARD -d 192.0.2.0/24 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 25 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-admin-prohibited -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86sjpvt7ev@gray.siamics.net
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
> Erwan David writes: > On 24/07/11 22:23, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? > Add another 3,33% for CRLF each 80 encoded characters (2 caharacters > each 60 bytes) Indeed. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86oc0jt7ch@gray.siamics.net
Re: fstab for usb devices in Squeeze
> Mark Grieveson writes: > Hello. Back in the good old days when I used Lenny, I was able to > mount my usb stick, mount my digital camera, and sync my palm pilot, > at the same time. After upgrading to Squeeze, this now seems like an > impossible dream. […] … Is pmount [1] an option? [1] http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/pmount -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86k4b7t73o@gray.siamics.net
Re: debian sensible browser help
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: > I am running squeeze w/ gnome desktop. I am attempting to use > google-chrome as my browser, but I also use Mutt as my MUA. > Under some situations, maybe always, but it is confusing, > when I am presented with an email containing HTML, I am but > into Iceweasel rather than google-chrome. I had thought the > update-alternatives could fix this, but there is not a sensible > browser name in u-a. Googling brings up only hits from several > years ago, and only complaints, not solutions. > > How do I make debian offer google-chrome to gnome? I have > checked all the places I know of. Where is sensible browser > defined? I'd like to keep iceweasel installed so that I can > use it when I choose to, but I never want it to be automatic > -- at least until, and if, I choose to reject google-chrome. > > Suggestions? > TIA > -- > Paul E Condon > pecon...@mesanetworks.net > Hi Paul, Re-creating the following symbolic link pointing to the application you prefer should be sufficient: ~$ file /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser /etc/alternatives/gnome-www-browser: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/epiphany-browser' Regards, Burhan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CABSER8XnhfdVq5TDGcd=5humoa69f-qufjtzx-fqbppoajd...@mail.gmail.com
What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
Hi all, The 94 printable characters from the first 128 characters of the ASCII table are the the ones with Hex Codes 0x20 to 0x7E. Is this right? -- Kind regards, Yudi
Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
Aaron, I know the ascii table. I just wanted to confirm the printable characters are from 0x20 to 0x7E. This is an important consideration while choosing a passphrase when using LUKS. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote: > On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:28:04PM +1000, yudi v wrote: > >The 94 printable characters from the first 128 characters of the ASCII > >table are the the ones with Hex Codes 0x20 to 0x7E. Is this right? > > http://www.asciitable.com/ > > -- > . o . o . o . . o o . . . o . > . . o . o o o . o . o o . . o > o o o . o . . o o o o . o o o > -- Kind regards, Yudi
Re: rsync backup question
> Paul E Condon writes: > On 20110722_142620, lee wrote: […] >> There isn't much point in using rsync since you're neither copying >> to a > ^^ > If the copy job fails 3/4 way thru, one can pick up the pieces and > continue using rsync. So even if it is a one time job, it is worth > knowing about rsync and how to use it. Moreover, Rsync has its powerful ‘--filter=’ option. To be honest, it's my habit to use rsync(1) instead of a recursive cp(1), even if the latter is sufficient for the case. >> remote host, nor can you save time by copying only modified files >> because it's the first and probably only copy. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86fwlvt1g8@gray.siamics.net
Re: limiting email sizes when sending files
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 15:28 +0200, lee wrote: > Andrew McGlashan writes: > What is more efficient when people have to spend the extra time to > figure out how to up- and download and how to solve security issues > involved with transferring the files via http or ftp? Are you going to > explain to them how to do it, and are you going to set up the software > they might need for it on their computers and show them how to use it? > Are you going to convince them when they're telling you that it's way > to complicated? > For example, what do you do when you're asked by people you don't know > to send them pictures you took? You set up a web server or give them > ftp access and spend hours to explain to them how they can get their > pictures? Seriously? Probably not --- you simply ask them for their > email address and send the pictures by email. Or /you/ would tell them > that they can't get the pictures because you don't want to abuse emails > and everything else is too complicated ... If it is of any help, we are just about finished with an enhancement to the mailscanner and zendto projects where mailscanner can be optionally configured to detect emails larger than a given size, send the attachments to ZendTo (a dropbox like server) and rewrite the email to contain a link to pick up the files. This allows end users to use their address books and makes sending large files no different from sending any attachment without overwhelming email systems or risking having the mail rejected by one of the MTAs along the path. It can also be configured to use HTTPS only to provide secure pickups. The company I work for is offering this as a service now and, if you don't mind waiting, will be contributing this back to the community soon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1311569704.2706.20.ca...@jasiiieee.pacifera.com
Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
On 20110725_132804, yudi v wrote: > Hi all, > > The 94 printable characters from the first 128 characters of the ASCII table > are the the ones with Hex Codes 0x20 to 0x7E. Is this right? No, it is not right. 0x20 to 0x7E is 95 characters, not 94. 0x20 is the space, and is non-printing. The range of printable characters is 0x21 to 0x7E. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110725053924.ga15...@cmpq.lan.gnu
Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
Hi Paul, I am pretty sure you are mistaken, 126-32 = 94 and space is a printable character. Yudi
Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:48, yudi v wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I am pretty sure you are mistaken, > > 126-32 = 94 > and space is a printable character. > saying space is printable is like saying cr and/or lf or bs or tab etc are printable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cah_obickji91d2jndn413yww5h2ugq2zfwas9cm9tdjheob...@mail.gmail.com
Re: What are the 94 printable characters from the 128 characters of ASCII table?
> yudi v writes:
> Hi Paul,
> I am pretty sure you are mistaken,
> 126-32 = 94
Let's try a simpler range: 32 to 32 is 1 character. And 32 - 32
is, obviously, zero. Doesn't it seem like an off-by-one error?
> and space is a printable character.
Well, I don't have an opinion of my own, but here's what GNU
Libc thinks on the issue:
$ cat < printable.c
#define _GNU_SOURCE
#include
#include
int
main ()
{
int i;
for (i = 0; i < 256; i++) {
printf (" %02x %s%s",
i,
(isprint (i) ? "P" : " "),
((1 + i) % 8 == 0
? "\n" : ""));
}
/* . */
return 0;
}
$ make printable
cc printable.c -o printable
$ ./printable
0001020304050607
08090a0b0c0d0e0f
1011121314151617
18191a1b1c1d1e1f
20 P 21 P 22 P 23 P 24 P 25 P 26 P 27 P
28 P 29 P 2a P 2b P 2c P 2d P 2e P 2f P
30 P 31 P 32 P 33 P 34 P 35 P 36 P 37 P
38 P 39 P 3a P 3b P 3c P 3d P 3e P 3f P
40 P 41 P 42 P 43 P 44 P 45 P 46 P 47 P
48 P 49 P 4a P 4b P 4c P 4d P 4e P 4f P
50 P 51 P 52 P 53 P 54 P 55 P 56 P 57 P
58 P 59 P 5a P 5b P 5c P 5d P 5e P 5f P
60 P 61 P 62 P 63 P 64 P 65 P 66 P 67 P
68 P 69 P 6a P 6b P 6c P 6d P 6e P 6f P
70 P 71 P 72 P 73 P 74 P 75 P 76 P 77 P
78 P 79 P 7a P 7b P 7c P 7d P 7e P 7f
8081828384858687
…
f8f9fafbfcfdfeff
$
So, as per GNU Libc, the printable ASCII characters are 0x20 to
0x7e, inclusive, which amounts to (+ 1 #x7e #x-20) => 95
characters overall.
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