Re: Debian install , need to add wireless firmware
On Du, 06 nov 11, 18:20:51, Brian wrote: > > 3. You can now boot Debian - we hope! Still no net access but you have >a working system which can do many things. One operation you want to >carry out is to mount the device which has Windows on it. Like so: > > mount /dev/sdaX /mnt > >You want to do this because you are going to download quite a few >.deb files in Windows, transfer them to the Debian installation >using Debian and install them with dpkg. Have you bought that USB >stick yet? Why so complicated? Just download the full DVD1 iso and loop-mount it under Debian. I only hope the Windows partition is not NTFS, because the base install does not contain ntfs-3g. One option would be to resize the Windows partition and create a small Fat32 partition for the DVD and firmware. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: gnome-shell en testing
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2011/11/10 Jose Diaz :
> Saludos, muy buenas noches
>
> Referente al hilo, sobre Unity y Gnome3 veo que al abrir una ventana ej:
> /home/miusuario y moverme a otra ruta, algo de rutina, ej: ir a una ruta,
> copiar un archivo e ir a otra ruta a colocarlo, etc. Veo que no es posible
> abrir otra ventana en paralela sino que todo aplicado desde la misma y unica
> ventana que se permite tener abierta. A lo cual pregunto, como podria abrir
> otra? ya que creo que si debe ser posible pero cambiando alguna
> configuracion y de hacer esto, no se estaria cambiando cosas que lleven casi
> al manejo previo y clasico de antes?
Puedes usar pestañas en el nautilus, y así te será más cómodo copiar ficheros
Un saludo
PD: El comentario de José continua por aquí debajo, pero no lo borro
por si alguien quiere responderle
>
> Considero que esta muy bien la forma como han organizado y centralizado
> algunas cosas, pero creo que en lo comentado, ese tipo de usabilidad es un
> poco engorrosa. Navegar a punta de mouse a un nivel de carpetas para luego
> irse a otro de igual forma, si debo volver al path 1 desde el path2 todo
> desde la misma ventana.
>
> El unico contratiempo que tuve en Gnome3 (el cual lo preferia mas que Unity)
> es que luego de unas actualizaciones del Centro de Software, el Visor de
> Imagenes predeterminado del sistema dejo de funcionar bien. Al abrir un
> archivo de imagen el Visor intentaba abrir quedando pensativamente pero sin
> nunca abrir ningun archivo de imagen sea .png, .gif, .jpg, etc. Instale otro
> visor de imagenes pero no funcionaba igual y aun el sistema tenia default al
> doble click usar el visor de imagenes predeterminado. No averigue como
> modificar el default que ya tenia pendiente probar Debian (algo que queria
> hace ya rato/tiempo) y pues eso hice.
>
> La barra superior, me ha precido buena estrategia hacerla universal, al
> abrir una aplicacion la barra superior del escritorio para a ser la barra de
> menu de esa aplicacion pero al tener varios aplicaciones abiertas, puede
> confundir un poco en cual esta el prompt o shell del sistema y saber a que
> aplicacion pertenece la barra de aplicacion presente al momento.
>
> Pero Unity y Gnome3 son el futuro para quienes desean seguir en Gnome o
> apostar por el propio de Canonical. Aun creo que esta algo verde pero desde
> el Ubuntu 11.04 al 11.10 se nota que ha madurado mas y seguiran mejorandolo
> y posiblemente un dia muchos lo preferiremos (pero cuando haya crecido mas,
> ya que no lleva mucho tiempo de nacido esta nueva modalidad de uso dentro
> del sistema). Es solo cuestion de acostumbrarse y en el futuro sera mas
> personalizable eso es seguro.
>
> Saludos.
>
> El 9 de noviembre de 2011 18:06, Javier Barroso
> escribió:
>>
>> 2011/11/8 Javier Silva :
>> > Hola lista,
>> > aquí una noticia que gustará a unos más que a otros...
>> >
>> > gnome-shell ya está en testing
>> >
>> > A mí me gusta el nuevo interfaz y a vosotros que os parece.
>> A mi lo que más me molesta de la transición (bueno, de gnome, que no
>> sé cuando se ha obligado a tener el network manager) es:
>>
>> $ cat /etc/resolv.conf
>> # Generated by NetworkManager
>>
>> Teniendo deshabilitadas todas las redes en el Network Manager ...
>>
>> Hoy ya decidí arreglarlo, fue cosa de instalar y configurar el
>> resolvconf (a través del network interfaces)
>>
>> No me mola que el /etc/init.d/networking {start/stop/restart} haya
>> dejado de funcionar :(
>>
>> Seguro que en futuras versiones ponen el tema de la
>> configuración/personalización más a tiro .. para mi que en algunos
>> aspectos se han copiado de awesome ...
>>
>> Saludos!
>>
>>
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mutt and maildir++ format
I have been using mutt for years and had this in my .muttrc to watch for new mail in different mailboxes: mailboxes ! +BoxA +BoxB +BoxC +`echo $HOME/Mail/.*` which worked well as long as I had symlinks between .BoxA and BoxA etc. Now I am experimenting with a different setup to get my mutt to cope directly with the maildir++ format (where mailboxes all begins with a '.'). I came accross a mini-howto at http://wiki.mutt.org/?MuttFaq/Maildir which suggested the following: mailboxes + `\ for file in ~/.maildir/.*; do \ box=$(basename "$file"); \ if [ ! "$box" = '.' -a ! "$box" = '..' -a ! "$box" = '.customflags' \ -a ! "$box" = '.subscriptions' ]; then \ echo -n "\"+$box\" "; \ fi; \ done; \ for folder in ~/.maildir/*; do \ if [ -x $folder]; then \ box=$(basename "$folder"); \ for file in ~/.maildir/$box/.*; do \ box2=$(basename "$file"); \ if [ ! "$box2" = '.' -a ! "$box2" = '..' -a ! "$box2" = '.customflags' \ -a ! "$box2" = '.subscriptions' ]; then \ echo -n "\"+$box/$box2\" "; \ fi; \ done; \ fi; \ done` But for some reason this is not working at all. I do not get any indication where the new mail is. Are there any mutt-boffins on this list that can help me with a solution? Regards Johann. -- Johann SpiesTelefoon: 021-808 4699 Databestuurder / Data manager Sentrum vir Navorsing oor Evaluasie, Wetenskap en Tegnologie Centre for Research on Evaluation, Science and Technology Universiteit Stellenbosch. "But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." I Corinthians 15:57 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010070619.ga1...@sun.ac.za
Re: Suspending script.
Thank You for Your time and answer, Raf: >> Now, after suspending/resuming I see that nothing was done: after >> resuming top shows me the same data about the process as it was >> before suspending. >> >> What can be wrong? Any suggestions, please. > >What if happens you run it manually? It was the permission problem - I did not set it to be executable. Now it seems to work. Thanks, Raf, again, for the point. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb72d4.82c0cc0a.284e.0...@mx.google.com
Re: Is it just me [Firefox resouce drain]
Camaleón writes: > There you have it: blame the browser :-) > You can also try Google Chrome, it is also known to be fast. I've found that on most web pages, especially "modern" ones (lots of javascript, etc), FF 7 is usually signficantly _faster_ than chrome. FF after 6 became really, really, fast. But it sounds like this particular web page is some kind of ungodly horror freak show, so I suppose all bets are off. -Miles -- Insurrection, n. An unsuccessful revolution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/buod3d07ayq@dhlpc061.dev.necel.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 09/11/11 T o n g said: > Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most. > Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the web tomorrow. I like watching youtube videos. Silverlight is a problem for me on Linux, so I find flash to be a good thing by comparison, unless I want to live with my head stuck in the ground. Mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 09/11/11 Paul Johnson said: > Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology > that's dying like BSD these days? 'cause people like it when their systems...work? Mike signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: apache 2.2.16 deadly slow
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:53:57 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 11/9/2011 7:38 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: > > > This is a apache server with php 5.3 > > The pages are based on php. Even the viewvc aka svn viewer is also taking > > tooo > > much response time :-( > > viewvc uses Python, not PHP. > > Are we talking about two different computers here, a server and a > workstation? Or are you running apache2 and viewvc on a single machine? > I'm getting the feeling this is on all one PC. > > Hint: when you tell a mailing list you are having an apache2 problem > after a distro upgrade, 'everyone' will assume you have apache2 running > on a dedicated server machine, not your workstation. You need to > clarify this and provide a whole lot more details about your system setup. > Obviously a *dedicated server* having debian squeeze with apache, php, mysql It has 4 GB RAM and xeon processor. Two 500 GB HDD aer configured in RAID-I 64 bit arch. Yes, after upgradation , I have restarted the server for several times... And a very important point. I have installed the debian squeeze with apache, mysql etc... on a new server with 8 GB RAM and i5 processor. a strong server than the exiting. And found the apache response time is also slow here Apache version is same 2.2.16 No such error at apache2/error.log and /log/messagess which can indicate any clue But why the apache is so slow on a newly installed box ? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010100710.038de...@shiva.selfip.org
Open-File Dialog and Save-As File Dialog is extremely slow on KDE
Hello, I'm using Debian Wheezy, with KDE as the default installed Desktop Environment. However, every time a Open-File Dialog or Save-as Dialog pop up, the GUI becomes extremely slow: It takes seconds to drag down the scroll bar of the Dialog, takes seconds to enter a new directory. Could anyone tell me what is wrong with this? Thanks, Hong -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb50f0.4070...@gmail.com
Re: Recent update of Xen packages causes kernel panic with HVM domU
On 11/9/2011 9:56 PM, David Howland wrote: > On 11/9/2011 10:17 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 11/9/2011 7:55 PM, David Howland wrote: >>> 8<= >>> kernel:[ 1919.981706] general protection fault: [#1] SMP >>> kernel:[ 1919.981714] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent >>> kernel:[ 1919.981870] Stack: >>> kernel:[ 1919.981893] Call Trace: >>> kernel:[ 1919.982020] Code: ff 14 25 40 eb 47 81 65 8b 04 25 a8 e3 00 >>> 00 48 98 49 8b 94 c4 f0 02 00 00 8b 4a 18 89 4c 24 14 48 8b 1a 48 85 db >>> 74 0c 8b 42 14<48> 8b 04 c3 48 89 02 eb 19 48 8b 4c 24 08 49 89 d0 44 >>> 89 ee 83 >> >> Where's the call trace? >> > > Here's the full syslog dump: See if you can fix it by backing these 3 out to the previous version you had installed: [UPGRADE] xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 [UPGRADE] xen-utils-4.0 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 [UPGRADE] xenstore-utils 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 Post the circumstances/history and a copy of the error log to LKML and the Xen list. In the mean time, check your filesystems to make sure none of your VM image files (or anyhting else) didn't get corrupted when the power died, or as a result of the upgrade. It would probably be a good idea to check out your hardware as well. Power outages often included spikes and surges before it completely goes dark. Assuming you're jacked into a good quality known-to-be-working UPS, damage to the machine, or storage array, is less likely to be a factor here. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb50a0.30...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Recent update of Xen packages causes kernel panic with HVM domU
On 11/9/2011 10:17 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 11/9/2011 7:55 PM, David Howland wrote: 8<= kernel:[ 1919.981706] general protection fault: [#1] SMP kernel:[ 1919.981714] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent kernel:[ 1919.981870] Stack: kernel:[ 1919.981893] Call Trace: kernel:[ 1919.982020] Code: ff 14 25 40 eb 47 81 65 8b 04 25 a8 e3 00 00 48 98 49 8b 94 c4 f0 02 00 00 8b 4a 18 89 4c 24 14 48 8b 1a 48 85 db 74 0c 8b 42 14<48> 8b 04 c3 48 89 02 eb 19 48 8b 4c 24 08 49 89 d0 44 89 ee 83 Where's the call trace? Here's the full syslog dump: Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981706] general protection fault: [#1] SMP Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981714] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981717] CPU 2 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981720] Modules linked in: tun nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 xt_state nf_conntrack xt_physdev ip6table_filter ip6_tables iptable_filter ip_tables ebtable_nat ebtables x_tables cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_stats cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_conservative parport_pc ppdev lp parport nfsd lockd nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc exportfs xen_evtchn xenfs binfmt_misc bridge stp fuse loop ioatdma radeon ttm drm_kms_helper i2c_i801 drm i2c_algo_bit rng_core pcspkr dca evdev i2c_core i5000_edac edac_core i5k_amb psmouse serio_raw processor button acpi_processor shpchp pci_hotplug ext3 jbd mbcache dm_mod sd_mod crc_t10dif uhci_hcd ata_generic ata_piix ehci_hcd libata scsi_mod usbcore nls_base e1000e thermal thermal_sys [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981816] Pid: 24, comm: xenwatch Not tainted 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 #1 S5000PSL Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981819] RIP: e030:[] [] __kmalloc_track_caller+0xcd/0x13c Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981829] RSP: e02b:8803ea52bb10 EFLAGS: 00010002 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981832] RAX: RBX: 331474c384d0f7d9 RCX: 0008 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981835] RDX: 880013216090 RSI: 00d0 RDI: 0003 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981838] RBP: 0200 R08: 80d0 R09: 8803ea52bdd7 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981841] R10: R11: 000186a0 R12: 8146bf10 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981843] R13: 00d0 R14: 00d0 R15: 0008 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981851] FS: 7fbc8fe9d700() GS:880013204000() knlGS: Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981854] CS: e033 DS: ES: CR0: 8005003b Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981857] CR2: 7fbc8f747000 CR3: 00030f11a000 CR4: 2660 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981861] DR0: DR1: DR2: Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981864] DR3: DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981868] Process xenwatch (pid: 24, threadinfo 8803ea52a000, task 8803ea4f3880) Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981870] Stack: Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981872] 8803ea4f3880 81141305 000881044ced 0008 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981878] <0> 8803 8803 0001 8803ea52bc28 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981885] <0> 41ed 810c846f 0004 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981893] Call Trace: Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981900] [] ? sysfs_new_dirent+0x2a/0xf7 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981906] [] ? kstrdup+0x2b/0x40 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981910] [] ? sysfs_new_dirent+0x2a/0xf7 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981914] [] ? create_dir+0x2d/0x7c Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981918] [] ? sysfs_create_dir+0x35/0x4a Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981924] [] ? kobject_get+0x12/0x17 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981928] [] ? kobject_add_internal+0xcb/0x181 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981932] [] ? kobject_add+0x74/0x7c Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981943] [] ? xen_force_evtchn_callback+0x9/0xa Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981948] [] ? check_events+0x12/0x20 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981952] [] ? __kmalloc+0x12f/0x141 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981958] [] ? device_private_init+0x13/0x45 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981963] [] ? device_add+0xce/0x537 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981969] [] ? backend_bus_id+0x10f/0x132 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981973] [] ? xenbus_probe_node+0x13b/0x1d4 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackable kernel: [ 1919.981977] [] ? cmp_dev+0x0/0x39 Nov 9 16:45:32 rackabl
Re: XFWM4 window manager failure? Sid/Wheezy
On 11/08/2011 09:10 AM, Joseph Lenox wrote: I'm not quite sure how, but I managed to get XFWM4 (current sid version 4.8) to not start with my session (or not to be saved). I don't recall doing anything particular to the window manager settings or desktop session settings. All I know is that I booted the system up and while it had saved my session, the window manager was not loaded. I started xfwm4 by hand, saved the session, and did a logout/login cycle and it seemed to have stuck. Anyone else seen this issue? Any ideas where a log file may reside to shed some light on what's going on? System is apparently not restarting XFWM (Xfce's window manager) on power cycle. I can't figure out anything else about this. --Joseph Lenox -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb4468.2010...@gmail.com
Re: Recent update of Xen packages causes kernel panic with HVM domU
On 11/9/2011 7:55 PM, David Howland wrote: > Recently I lost power (along with much of New England) for eight days. > When the juice started flowing again, I restarted my Xen server (Debian > Squeeze, dual Xeon (8 cores), 16GB RAM), which came up fine but had a > pile of package updates pending... > 8<= > kernel:[ 1919.981706] general protection fault: [#1] SMP > kernel:[ 1919.981714] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent > kernel:[ 1919.981870] Stack: > kernel:[ 1919.981893] Call Trace: > kernel:[ 1919.982020] Code: ff 14 25 40 eb 47 81 65 8b 04 25 a8 e3 00 > 00 48 98 49 8b 94 c4 f0 02 00 00 8b 4a 18 89 4c 24 14 48 8b 1a 48 85 db > 74 0c 8b 42 14 <48> 8b 04 c3 48 89 02 eb 19 48 8b 4c 24 08 49 89 d0 44 > 89 ee 83 Where's the call trace? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb4248.9010...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 10/11/11 13:38, Weaver wrote: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800 > Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote: >>> Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by >>> default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but >>> Gnash is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes >>> Linux's image rather than enhances it. >> >> Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a >> technology that's dying like BSD these days? >> >> > > Ummm, can't wait till gnash is setting the pace, rather than being an > implementation generation or two behind, which is all I see holding it > up, Which would be nice, but kind of impossible. Gnash is a Ffflash player - so all it can do is (try) and implement the latest Ffflash features. Originally SmartSketch there are now a number of "free" Ffflash creation tools - but Adobe, through it's "branding" pretty much controls the market. Sadly.` I suspect that won't change until employers find all the new graphic artists insist on using HTML5, or a free Flash alternative. And that's not likely until schools, uni's etc start basing the training around those. That and consumers avoiding Ffflash infested sites, forcing companies to change the site content. > but BSD is generating programmes that Debian would do well to look > at: > > http://www.bsdcertification.org/ 1. Debian certification programmes a la LPI would (I believe) be a very good thing. Though difficult to incorporate into the Debian community and Social contract. 2. You're obviously unaware of Debian-kFreeBSD:- http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ All the simplicity and stability of FreeBSD with the power of apt. Sadly few know of it - and many still parrot Matt Damon's jest about BSD dying (because he was resigning). Definitely worth a look (we use it extensively):- http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=debian_kfreebsd_h210&num=1 > Regards, > > Weaver. > Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb410c.3070...@gmail.com
Re: apache 2.2.16 deadly slow
On 11/9/2011 7:38 PM, J. Bakshi wrote: > This is a apache server with php 5.3 > The pages are based on php. Even the viewvc aka svn viewer is also taking tooo > much response time :-( viewvc uses Python, not PHP. Are we talking about two different computers here, a server and a workstation? Or are you running apache2 and viewvc on a single machine? I'm getting the feeling this is on all one PC. Hint: when you tell a mailing list you are having an apache2 problem after a distro upgrade, 'everyone' will assume you have apache2 running on a dedicated server machine, not your workstation. You need to clarify this and provide a whole lot more details about your system setup. If this is indeed all on one PC, and you're having speed issues with both apache2, your browser, and viewvc, then it seems to reason the underlying problem is elsewhere, probably at a lower level. > The problem appears after upgrading the server from lenney to squeeze. Yes, you made this very clear in your first post. Did you upgrade your kernel from 2.6.26 to 2.6.32? Is it 32 or 64 bit? Have you rebooted the system since the upgrade? Have you checked your logs for errors or warnings? Is your disk/controller working at its highest speed? Given your speed problem isn't limited to "apache", and if this is single PC, then the cause of the slowness could be any number of things. Thus, the more detail you provide the quicker you can find a solution. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb3cc5.7030...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by > > default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but > > Gnash is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes > > Linux's image rather than enhances it. > > Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a > technology that's dying like BSD these days? > > Ummm, can't wait till gnash is setting the pace, rather than being an implementation generation or two behind, which is all I see holding it up, but BSD is generating programmes that Debian would do well to look at: http://www.bsdcertification.org/ while the latest pre-release version of PC-BSD has an implementation very much like apt for up-dating, among other advanced features. http://www.pcbsd.org/ Definitely not drowning and conceivably even stealing a march. Regards, Weaver. -- "In a world without walls and fences, what need have we for Windows or Gates?" -Anon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010123812.45c351e9.wea...@riseup.net
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by > > default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but > > Gnash is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes > > Linux's image rather than enhances it. > > Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a > technology that's dying like BSD these days? > > Ummm, can't wait till gnash is setting the pace, rather than being an implementation generation or two behind, which is all I see holding it up, but BSD is generating programmes that Debian would do well to look at: http://www.bsdcertification.org/ while the latest pre-release version of PC-BSD has an implementation very much like apt for up-dating, among other advanced features. http://www.pcbsd.org/ Definitely not drowning and conceivably even stealing a march. Regards, Weaver. -- "In a world without walls and fences, what need have we for Windows or Gates?" -Anon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010123713.5e623f54.wea...@riseup.net
Recent update of Xen packages causes kernel panic with HVM domU
Recently I lost power (along with much of New England) for eight days. When the juice started flowing again, I restarted my Xen server (Debian Squeeze, dual Xeon (8 cores), 16GB RAM), which came up fine but had a pile of package updates pending... === [UPGRADE] libavcodec52 4:0.5.4-1 -> 4:0.5.5-1 [UPGRADE] libavformat52 4:0.5.4-1 -> 4:0.5.5-1 [UPGRADE] libavutil49 4:0.5.4-1 -> 4:0.5.5-1 [UPGRADE] libnss3-1d 3.12.8-1+squeeze3 -> 3.12.8-1+squeeze4 [UPGRADE] libpostproc51 4:0.5.4-1 -> 4:0.5.5-1 [UPGRADE] libpq5 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1+b1 [UPGRADE] libswscale0 4:0.5.4-1 -> 4:0.5.5-1 [UPGRADE] libxenstore3.0 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 [UPGRADE] postgresql 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-8.4 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1+b1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-client 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-client-8.4 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1+b1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-contrib 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-contrib-8.4 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1+b1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-doc 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] postgresql-doc-8.4 8.4.8-0squeeze2 -> 8.4.9-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] tzdata 2011m-0squeeze1 -> 2011n-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] tzdata-java 2011m-0squeeze1 -> 2011n-0squeeze1 [UPGRADE] xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 [UPGRADE] xen-utils-4.0 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 [UPGRADE] xenstore-utils 4.0.1-2 -> 4.0.1-4 === I did an "aptitude safe-upgrade" without even really looking at it. At the time, I had an HVM domU running. The upgrade crashed the system. I'm pretty sure it crashed while configuring the xen-hypervisor-4.0-amd64 package. When I brought it back up, I ran a "dpkg --configure -a" to finish the job. However, now, when I try to use my Windows HVM, I always get a kernel panic dealing with the vbd. For example... 8<= kernel:[ 1919.981706] general protection fault: [#1] SMP kernel:[ 1919.981714] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent kernel:[ 1919.981870] Stack: kernel:[ 1919.981893] Call Trace: kernel:[ 1919.982020] Code: ff 14 25 40 eb 47 81 65 8b 04 25 a8 e3 00 00 48 98 49 8b 94 c4 f0 02 00 00 8b 4a 18 89 4c 24 14 48 8b 1a 48 85 db 74 0c 8b 42 14 <48> 8b 04 c3 48 89 02 eb 19 48 8b 4c 24 08 49 89 d0 44 89 ee 83 kernel:[ 1920.014542] general protection fault: [#2] SMP kernel:[ 1920.014550] last sysfs file: /sys/devices/vbd-3-832/uevent kernel:[ 1920.014729] Stack: kernel:[ 1920.014752] Call Trace: kernel:[ 1920.014836] Code: ff 14 25 40 eb 47 81 65 8b 04 25 a8 e3 00 00 48 98 49 8b 94 c4 f0 02 00 00 8b 4a 18 89 4c 24 14 48 8b 1a 48 85 db 74 0c 8b 42 14 <48> 8b 04 c3 48 89 02 eb 19 48 8b 4c 24 08 49 89 d0 44 89 ee 83 8<= Then the system destabilizes. I have a pretty common setup. I can't be the only one! What the heck happened with those updates?!? Please help me out! thanks, -d -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb2f08.4060...@fastmail.fm
Re: Adobe flash is dead
>> Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology >> that's dying like BSD these days? > Because right now, realistically it's the only game in town if one wants > to watch flash content. When HTML5 comes along and I am able to get rid > of /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so I shall be only too > delighted. Until then, one has to be pragmatic. There are many ways to be pragmatic. Nowadays, Gnash works well enough for me that my notion of "pragmatic" is simply "say good bye to web-sites which are too poor to work with Gnash". Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwv4nyclp4p.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: apache 2.2.16 deadly slow
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 17:54:54 -0600 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 11/9/2011 2:38 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:00:02 -0600 > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >> On 11/9/2011 1:42 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: > >> > >>> But... the apache has become *deadly slow* > >> > >>> [Wed Nov 09 12:13:16 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker > >>> proxy:reverse already initialized > >> > >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proxy%3A+worker+proxy%3Areverse+already+initialized > >> > > > > Completely disable proxy stuff by > > > > a2dismod proxy proxy_connect proxy_ftp proxy_http proxy_ajp proxy_balancer > > proxy_html proxy > > > > and restarted apache. Now no more error related with proxy and no other > > error. but > > still very very very slow > > Then apparently you had multiple problems. > > When you say "slow" I assume you mean response time within your browser. > If the pages you're accessing are anything other than static content, > say CGI based, or containing some other form of server side scripting, > you may want to look into those things. You may need to tweak > parameters outside of apache2. > > What content are you accessing when you see this slooow peformance? > Static pages, webmail app, ?? > This is a apache server with php 5.3 The pages are based on php. Even the viewvc aka svn viewer is also taking tooo much response time :-( The problem appears after upgrading the server from lenney to squeeze. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2010070857.3b6e7...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead [OT]
On 10/11/11 11:10, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote: >> Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by >> default? Because most GNU/Linux distributions try and provide a secure user experience. FFflash is the antidote for security. Gnash can be freely distributed. >> I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash >> is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image >> rather than enhances it. Two solutions Andrew - write a better "reverse engineered"/"clean room" Fffflash player, or, contribute better code to the Gnash project. Preferably you'd chose a third option - avoid anything that requires the use of Ffflash in the first place. It's not like it does much[*1] that can't be better done in a modern browser *without* having to install third-party software (and update it every other week). > > Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology > that's dying like BSD these days? BSD is dying? Really? Please explain Paul. [*1] some audio functionality. Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb1fa3.8030...@gmail.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:10:31 -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology > that's dying like BSD these days? Because right now, realistically it's the only game in town if one wants to watch flash content. When HTML5 comes along and I am able to get rid of /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so I shall be only too delighted. Until then, one has to be pragmatic. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f6p4$5eu$3...@dough.gmane.org
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Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 19:51 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by > default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash > is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image > rather than enhances it. Why bother with non-free software when we're talking about a technology that's dying like BSD these days? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: wheezy update system - how?
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 23:01:01 +, Brian wrote: > The fruit of timidity is neither gain nor loss. And there I was, thinking it was the ability to play and visualise MIDI files ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f5ir$5eu$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 21:12:01 -0200, Ismael Scalcon wrote: > But it's still opensource, so the source code is free to download and > compile. The guys at CentOS do it, they get all the source code for RHL, > remove the Red Hat branding and distribute it. And the guys at Scientific Linux (Fermilab and CERN) do the same, only with a far better ethos. Personally I detest the attitude at CentOS. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9f5e7$5eu$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: apache 2.2.16 deadly slow
On 11/9/2011 2:38 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:00:02 -0600 > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> On 11/9/2011 1:42 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: >> >>> But... the apache has become *deadly slow* >> >>> [Wed Nov 09 12:13:16 2011] [debug] proxy_util.c(1837): proxy: worker >>> proxy:reverse already initialized >> >> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=proxy%3A+worker+proxy%3Areverse+already+initialized >> > > Completely disable proxy stuff by > > a2dismod proxy proxy_connect proxy_ftp proxy_http proxy_ajp proxy_balancer > proxy_html proxy > > and restarted apache. Now no more error related with proxy and no other > error. but > still very very very slow Then apparently you had multiple problems. When you say "slow" I assume you mean response time within your browser. If the pages you're accessing are anything other than static content, say CGI based, or containing some other form of server side scripting, you may want to look into those things. You may need to tweak parameters outside of apache2. What content are you accessing when you see this slooow peformance? Static pages, webmail app, ?? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb12ce.7050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: virtualbox just became slow
On 08/11/11 23:54, Steve Kleene wrote: > I've been happily running a virtualbox Windows XP machine (VM) on a Wheezy > host for eight months. However, the VM just became pathologically slow. For > example, if I boot the VM, call Photoshop 6, and open a small JPG, it all > works but takes several minutes. During much of this time the XP Task > Manager pins at 100% CPU usage, What process? > and the host's cooling fans are revving hard. > If I then ask to print the JPG, Photoshop (eventually) declares "There is not > enough memory for this operation". When the VM is idle, it shows about 5% > CPU usage and I see no unexpected memory hogs running. The Debian host runs > fine. > > This disease roughly coincides with my upgrade from virtualbox 4.1.2 to > 4.1.4, including the guest additions and extension pack. So I uninstalled > 4.1.4 and put back 4.1.2 from snapshot.debian.org, together with its guest > additions and extension pack. I also put back a copy of the VM (xpvm.vdi) > and home vbox directories that I had saved on June 18th when everything was > fine. (I saved these as Linux files, not as a snapshot. I have successfully > started from them before). Next time consider:- $ VBoxManage clonevm > Finally I rebooted the host too. None of this > solved the problem. > > The host is a Pentium 4 3.0 GHz with 2 GB of memory. The VM has the > recommended 192 MB of memory. This all worked fine until I ran apt-get > upgrade (including virtualbox) four days ago. I have a newer Wheezy machine > (i5 3.2 GHz + 4 GB) that is running about the same VM (also 192 MB) under > virtualbox 4.1.4 with no problem. > > Any ideas how to identify the source of this slowness? Thanks. > > Debian/VirtualBox - check dmesg[*1] and VirtualBox log for relevant messages. The VirtualBox log is accessible via the GUI Manager => Machine => Show Log. You don't say what sort of VirtualBox disk system you use. Windoof - how much free space does your virtual drive have, when did you last defrag, what filesystem, how big is the Windoof swap, have you put a sniffer on the virtual NIC, what does Windoof show as chewing the most resources? I run a number of Windoof XP Pro SP3+ VirtualBox machines with NTFS using fixed size vmdk virtualdrives. 128MB video, 960MB RAM, PAE/NX, non-free (Oracle) VirtualBox, Squeeze hosts. I regularly degrag their drives, and delete the Windoof swap files every month[*2]. They run quickly - *but are rarely allowed access to the internet*. One suggestion is to export (as an appliance) one of the slow VirtualMachines from your slow host and import it into your faster host - then compare apples with apples. I'd also suggest you temporarily disable the virtual NIC to rule out Windoof network activity as the problem. [*1] you can ignore:- warning: `VirtualBox' uses 32-bit capabilities (legacy support in use) [*2] otherwise they grow until upgrading seems like a good idea Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb0b26.1050...@gmail.com
Re: wheezy update system - how?
On Wed 09 Nov 2011 at 22:34:52 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > That's quite a bold statement. The fruit of timidity is neither gain nor loss. (A proverb. Reputedly Arabic.) >May we redirect all upgrade issues to you > in the future? :p After all these years I thought nobody cared. Nice of you to ask. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009230101.GE2852@desktop
Re: OT: Just a simple query
To clarify things up (ok, a bit off topic): Red Hat Linux is a commercial distro, but what they sell is the supporte services. The thing is, you cannot get RHL without paying for the support. But it's still opensource, so the source code is free to download and compile. The guys at CentOS do it, they get all the source code for RHL, remove the Red Hat branding and distribute it. Fedora is just like a "testing bed" for Red Hat. They often try new things on FC to see if they work before implementing it on RHL. About the "New Interface", that's called Gnome Shell, and runs over Gnome 3. There is an project to maintain the old interface running over Gnome 3, but I don't know how stable it is. But many people who like GTK are turning to XFCE or LXDE, and there's also people going to KDE, to get a more normal desktop environment. I, on the other hand, don't have anything against it... 2011/11/9 Tom H > >> On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Miles Fidelman >> wrote: >> > >> > Red Hat Linux = Red Hat's original commercial product >> >> Commercial?! You could get it for free like Fedora as well as get it >> for free and then enter into a service contract with RH. >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: >> http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxMRyvg646XETFtuT_GU7_JoWV2=nneop9hzrucpwv...@mail.gmail.com >> >> >
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 11/09/2011 02:51 PM, Andrew Wood wrote: Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than enhances it. Its buggy, a lot of content it cant display, or displays improperly. You often end up with ads jammed over the main content of the page because Gnash has drawn them in totally the wrong place, it causes browsers to crash and last night I was puzzled as to why my CPU fan was going full throttle after upgrading wheezy. A quick look at the process list revealed Gnash had been re-installed and was thrashing all 4 CPU cores just displaying a web ad. A newcomer to Linux would think this was the best the platform could offer, when in reality theyre far better off installing the 'real' Adobe player. OK it may be closed source but closed source isnt all evil and hats off to Adobe for actually making a Linux version which is pretty damn good if you give it a chance. Id be happy to see Gnash dead. And what do you use for flashplayer? Hugo You're 100% right, but please bottom post in the future. thanx. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb0855.1020...@optonline.net
Re: question: building a live-dvd
On 06/11/11 01:37, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi list, > > I want to learn, how to build a live-system of debian. I already read some > manuals, but still I have a question for my specual needs. > > Which is the better solution for my purposes? Bootcdwrite? Live-builder? > > My special wishes: > > 1. My source is an already installed and configured debian system. > > 2. I added some extra files (i.e. my own wordlist or third-party-packages), > which shall be added to the live-cd, too > > 3. Some directories shall not apppear at the livesystem (i.e. /var/log, > history, /home/user/) > > 4. The finished live-cd shall be installable. That's outside of my experience (not saying it's not possible). Have a read on http://live.debian.net/ and see my suggestion about Live-Magic. > > 5. If possible (but that is not much important!), the working user of the > source system shall not appear on the live system. > > At the moment I am happy with bootcdwrite using my own bootcdwrite.conf, but > do you think, live-builder might be better for my puposes? Yes. > At the moment the > ISO-image is now 3GB big, so it will fit on a DVD. > > Will be happy for any feedback. > > Best regards > > Hans > I'd suggest you look at Live-Magic (it's in the repositories). It's maintained by Chris Lamb (of Debian Live-CD) and *should* do all that you require. Please post you experiences. Cheers -- Iceweasel/Firefox extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebb0447.6040...@gmail.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On 11/09/2011 02:51 PM, Andrew Wood wrote: > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? > I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very > poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than > enhances it. > > Its buggy, a lot of content it cant display, or displays improperly. You > often end up with ads jammed over the main content of the page because > Gnash has drawn them in totally the wrong place, it causes browsers to > crash and last night I was puzzled as to why my CPU fan was going full > throttle after upgrading wheezy. A quick look at the process list > revealed Gnash had been re-installed and was thrashing all 4 CPU cores > just displaying a web ad. > > A newcomer to Linux would think this was the best the platform could > offer, when in reality theyre far better off installing the 'real' Adobe > player. OK it may be closed source but closed source isnt all evil and > hats off to Adobe for actually making a Linux version which is pretty > damn good if you give it a chance. > > Id be happy to see Gnash dead. I don't get it. There are lots of distros that do offer the proprietary stuff by default. There are choices on this platform. Users should make the ones that suit them best, and be satisfied with letting each distro proceed according to its stated philosophy. (There are distros that consider Debian too "liberal" with respect to licensing issues. They offer NO repository support for proprietary software at all.) If you want Gnash dead, you can just let it be dead on your system. The default Debian installation gives you the ability to use the contents of the non-free and contrib repositories by default. (I disallow both of them them from my sources.list file during the expert installation process.) Or you can go with something like Ubuntu or Mint where the Adobe player and reader and other stuff are officially supported in the distro. I happen to appreciate the efforts of those who develop Gnash and wouldn't want them (or the devs on the alternative free player technologies) to cease their efforts. GNU/Linux is about having choices, not about limiting all of the distros to be the same, and forcing all of them to do what people with one particular bent want to see in an OS. Anyway, I doubt that a lot of newbies wander into Debian or Fedora or Arch, etc. Newbies can get the Adobe stuff right up front in the distros they're probably most likely to choose. Oh, and if your system was maxing out four cores trying to display an ad, you might be concerned about the way your browser is configured. Maybe a little customization by way of plugins or alteration of browser settings is in order? There are some very nice capabilities these days that prevent that sort of nonsense from being a problem. I don't see ads anywhere I go on the Web -- unless I specifically allow them. Regards, Gilbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebafd6e.2080...@comcast.net
aptitude vs. apt-get/dpkg purge
Hi, I have a weird problem where my google foo is failing me (although I guess it has been seen more than once before). Long story short, I have a configuration management software (puppet) that purges selective packages on each run (among others os-prober). It is (by default) using apt for this task. When I execute aptitude interactively on one of those handled servers after that, it always wants to reinstall os-prober. It does not show so in the listing, but it says 'Will use 193 kB of disk space' and shows os-prober in the 'Packages to be installed' block after pressing 'g'. I have to deselect it there manually with '-' or ':' to get rid of it forever. It seems to be related with the Apt::Install-Recommends setting, if I set that to False the behaviour is gone. But I like recommends for now. It is easily reproducible on both Squeeze and Wheezy: # apt-get install os-prober # aptitude (see that there is nothing to do) # apt-get purge os-prober # aptitude (see that it wants to install os-prober) I have not seen an explicit bug for it, but the 816 open bugs on aptitude are somewhat hard to browse. Is this a known issue or works-as-designed? Thanks, Bernhard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9esqi$43d$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed
Sian Mountbatten writes: > Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages* > buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server. ,[ (info "(gnus)Debugging IMAP") ] | 6.5.6 Debugging IMAP | | | [...] | |Because the protocol dump, when enabled, generates lots of data, it | is disabled by default. You can enable it by setting `imap-log' as | follows: | | (setq imap-log t) | |This instructs the `imap.el' package to log any exchanges with the | server. The log is stored in the buffer `*imap-log*'. Look for error | messages, which sometimes are tagged with the keyword `BAD'--but when | submitting a bug, make sure to include all the data. ` hth Memnon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762it7zj0@mean.albasani.net
Re: KVM networking.
Sthu Deus (sthu.d...@gmail.com on 2011-11-08 14:44 +0700): > > >> /usr/bin/kvm -localtime -m 256 -no-reboot > >> -cdrom ./debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst/debian-6.0.2.1-amd64-netinst.iso > >> -boot d -hda ./da -net nic -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no > >> > >> kvm: -net tap,ifname=tap0,script=no: could not > >> configure /dev/net/tun (tap0): Operation not permitted > > [..] > >But if you are like me and you manage multiple virtual machines and > >you stubbornly insist on using dynamic tap interfaces, you can work > >around this by setting the CAP_NET_ADMIN capability on kvm: > ># setcap cap_net_admin+ep /usr/bin/kvm > > I want to make it secure and update independent, let's look may some > on the list will share his/her knowledge w/ us - I do not believe all > who use the standard VM-ing make such work arounds. > Yes, I agree my solution is suboptimal, but it's the best I could do. Eagerly awaiting input... :) > In the KVM manual > it is clearly written what to do in every case the network one would > use - just a workstation Internet access, bridges (private/public), > and tapped w/ latter routing for the interface. > > For me it does not work for the following reasons: > > 1. The bridges take the Internet connections for itself - thus leaving > the host app.s w/o Internet access, probably routing needed here - but > they do not make any specifications for that. > That sounds weird. What does brctl show? A default setup with these two lines should already work fine: iface br0 inet dhcp bridge_ports eth0 Just remember to leave eth0 unconfigured... > 2. As a workstation - it does not provide access from host to the > guest. > You mean networking access? I've never needed it, but it should work once your host apps have networking access... (just tested: ping between host and vm works fine for me). > 3. W/ tap - You have seen already the problem - some unknown to me > permission problem - do You know why is it so? > I can make a guess: $ ls -l /dev/net/tun crw-rw 1 root kvm 10, 200 Nov 9 21:36 tun $ groups aschuring users kvm [..] $ /usr/sbin/tunctl -b TUNSETIFF: Operation not permitted $ sudo setcap cap_net_admin+ep /usr/sbin/tunctl $ /usr/sbin/tunctl -b tap0 > Or may have an idea > what else command I have to add to sudoers file for the user or some > other way by root specify the interface parameters that the user has > to use the interface w/? > Yes. You can just add tunctl to your list of sudo commands, and use the output of ifname=$(sudo tunctl -b -u $(whoami)) on the kvm command line. Alternatively, set the cap_net_admin capability on tunctl and you won't need sudo (but still upgrade-unsafe)... This way, kvm will not need to create the interface and you won't run into permission problems. Regards, Arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009222614.7ef98...@neminis.intra.loos.site
Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed
Sian Mountbatten writes:
> Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
> and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
>
> {nnimap:Opera} (denied)
> {nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
>
> Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
> buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.
Try to close it ('C'), then reopen it ('O'), and see what happens in the
Messages buffer.
HTH,
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debian wheezy 64 bit --- on HP Pavillion dv6921la Notebook --- driver question!
Hola! I have debian Wheezy 64 bit installed, and just installed the new skype for 64bit debian. It works OK, but it cannot access my camera --- it can receive video, but not send. Then I tried to start Cheese, which worked earlier when I had 32 bit linux on this same machine, but no says it cannot find any device. Any idea what package contains drivers for the camera? Thanks, Kjetil B Halvorsen -- "If you want a picture of the future - imagine a boot stamping on the human face - forever." George Orwell (1984) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAH=m5MguuccRnBiey5y7OJZfoXecqJGgo=SmEGg=+d_wagk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: wheezy update system - how?
On Jo, 03 nov 11, 18:01:53, Brian wrote: > On Thu 03 Nov 2011 at 17:07:28 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > > > >From time to time, my wheezy system pops up a message to the effect > > that I should update my system (10 packages). How do I do that? > >apt-get update > > followed by > >apt-get dist-upgrade > > Guaranteed to never fail. That's quite a bold statement. May we redirect all upgrade issues to you in the future? :p Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed
Having loaded gnus into emacs23, in the group buffer I keyed ^
and got a list of servers. Two entries caught my attention:
{nnimap:Opera} (denied)
{nntp:nntp.aioe.org} (opened) (agent)
Why was Opera denied? Will there be a log anywhere? The *Messages*
buffer contains nothing about trying to connect to my imap server.
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Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? Interesting question. Which distributions do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9emv3$4rn$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 19:51:14 +, Andrew Wood wrote: > Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? Interesting question. Which distributions do that? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9emv4$4rm$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Adobe flash is dead
Why do Linux distros consider it desirable to install Gnash by default? I understand the desire to have a free flash player but Gnash is a very poor implementation and I think it tarnishes Linux's image rather than enhances it. Its buggy, a lot of content it cant display, or displays improperly. You often end up with ads jammed over the main content of the page because Gnash has drawn them in totally the wrong place, it causes browsers to crash and last night I was puzzled as to why my CPU fan was going full throttle after upgrading wheezy. A quick look at the process list revealed Gnash had been re-installed and was thrashing all 4 CPU cores just displaying a web ad. A newcomer to Linux would think this was the best the platform could offer, when in reality theyre far better off installing the 'real' Adobe player. OK it may be closed source but closed source isnt all evil and hats off to Adobe for actually making a Linux version which is pretty damn good if you give it a chance. Id be happy to see Gnash dead. And what do you use for flashplayer? Hugo
Re: Getting mail using gnus
Sian Mountbatten writes: > When I issue the command M-x gnus in Emacs, some messages flash > by in the echo area, but I do not get any mail. Have a look at your message buffer: *Messages* Memnon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87bosl84ar@mean.albasani.net
Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze
2011/11/9 Joost Kraaijeveld : > On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:29 +0100, Javier Silva wrote: >> Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux. >> >> radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free. > That is installed and loaded. I have Gnome3 running as Gnome3 , not in > the fall-back mode, which I had using the proprietary driver. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > > Joost Kraaijeveld > Askesis B.V. > Molukkenstraat 14 > 6524NB Nijmegen > tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277 > fax: 024-3608416 > web: www.askesis.nl > > > After freeze you can be accessed by ssh? Your machine respond to ping? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOg_h5Y4886g8i-hH_rnWjVX-OGAvk159C=qo7jxzbth2+b...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Adobe flash is dead
T o n g wrote: Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile devices: Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead- for-mobile-devices/ Steve Jobs wins: Flash being phased out from mobile devices http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1083764--steve-jobs-wins-flash- being-phased-out-from-mobile-devices Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most. Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the web tomorrow. And what do you use for flashplayer? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9el2s$7bu$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: emacs RMAIL -- help needed
Sian Mountbatten writes: > I have been trying to get an email client which would access my > web mail. I've tried > kmail -- which simply does not retrieve the mail > balsa -- which asks for an SMTP address (I don't have SMTP) > and I am now using emacs23. > > Can anybody tell me how to configure RMAIL so that it accesses > my mail server. You can get that on the gnu.emacs.help newsgroup. (on gmane: gmane.emacs.help) But rmail is not in use so much anymore You should investigate the mail/news reader bundled with emacs23 called `gnus'. It is under lively development currently. But a newer version is available with emacs24. gnus is a very capable reader and handles gmail well thru imap. You can get lots of expert help at `gnu.emacs.gnus' newsgroup. Or on gmane: gmane.emacs.gnus.users You didn't mention what web style account you have. You might get better advice if you were post more information concerning what exactly you want to do. For information on gnus. If you have texinfo installed you should be able to read all about it by doing this in emacs: C-h i (brings up info manuals) memacs g gnus Or if that seems inadequate or you do not like reading texinfo (info) manuals, you can access the gnus manual online at: http://www.gnus.org/manual.html Far as which format to use there... you might like `monolithic HTML' Which displays the manual in one very long page. That makes page searching very easy and you can search the entire manual with your browsers (C-f on most browsers) page search functions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjlxjdbg@newsguy.com
Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze
On Wed, 2011-11-09 at 20:29 +0100, Javier Silva wrote: > Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux. > > radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free. That is installed and loaded. I have Gnome3 running as Gnome3 , not in the fall-back mode, which I had using the proprietary driver. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Joost Kraaijeveld Askesis B.V. Molukkenstraat 14 6524NB Nijmegen tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277 fax: 024-3608416 web: www.askesis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1320867439.3383.17.ca...@asterix.askesis.nl
Re: Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze
2011/11/9 Joost Kraaijeveld : > Hi, > > I am trying to run Debian Testing AMD64 with Gnome3 and the Radeon > OpenSource driver, xserver-xorg-video-radeon. All are the latest > versions, updated today (9 november 2011). > > After some time and always after clicking on an icon or something else > on the screen my system lock up. It completely freezes, nothing works: > no alt+F1 , ctrl+alt+del, alt-backspace, and no remote login via ssh. > The only way to reboot is using the power button (off and than on). > Using the reset button results in not finding the boot disk anymore. I > can't find anything in any log file (messages, kernel, debug, daemon) > > Does anyone recognises this behaviour, i.e. is it a feature? What could > I try to diagnose the problem? Anyone any idea as to find the cause, so > I can file a bug against a package that could be the problem? > Init computer in recovery mode and install firmware-linux. radeon driver need a package firmware-linux-non-free. > TIA > > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > > Joost Kraaijeveld > Askesis B.V. > Molukkenstraat 14 > 6524NB Nijmegen > tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277 > fax: 024-3608416 > web: www.askesis.nl > > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1320865878.3383.14.ca...@asterix.askesis.nl > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caog_h5ay5u+m+zudxhyvfdagvwbs7qku30owfwu9nykneg_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: partitions missing on my external hard drive
Thank You for Your time and answer, arno: >But I can't even operate on the disk with fdisk: ># fdisk /dev/sdb >fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found > >Note that my data is only backup, so I don't care losing them when >fixing my hard drive. Then it's really looks like adapter (USB-SATA?) failure or electronics on the HDD. Try to open it and connect to SATA/IDE controller of a PC directly - fdisk or log messages should indicate that there is "sdb" at least. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebad16e.c820cc0a.5e23.0...@mx.google.com
Re: LibreOffice Base and light-weighted SQL DB
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 08:23:33 +0200, Johann Spies wrote: >> > I'm all ears. What's your recommendation? >> >> That will depend on what are your expectations. >> >> - For a clone to MS Access (with easy wizards to make fancy reports or >> to create forms with a few clicks...) there is Kexi, knoda or gnome- >>db. . . Thank you all for the comments. I'd prefer an application based instead of web based. All that I want is a easy data entry tool, with all the necessary gadgets, lookup, drop down, calender, and most important, parent-child related records editing. FYI, The most feature-rich *nix based solution I found so far is Glom, http://www.glom.org/ but strange enough, for such powerful app, nobody cares to package its latest version. Still, I have to say none of the *nix based solution that I found are even close to the easiness of MS Access. Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9ejcc$ves$2...@dough.gmane.org
Testing Gnome3 Radeon OS complete system freeze
Hi, I am trying to run Debian Testing AMD64 with Gnome3 and the Radeon OpenSource driver, xserver-xorg-video-radeon. All are the latest versions, updated today (9 november 2011). After some time and always after clicking on an icon or something else on the screen my system lock up. It completely freezes, nothing works: no alt+F1 , ctrl+alt+del, alt-backspace, and no remote login via ssh. The only way to reboot is using the power button (off and than on). Using the reset button results in not finding the boot disk anymore. I can't find anything in any log file (messages, kernel, debug, daemon) Does anyone recognises this behaviour, i.e. is it a feature? What could I try to diagnose the problem? Anyone any idea as to find the cause, so I can file a bug against a package that could be the problem? TIA -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Joost Kraaijeveld Askesis B.V. Molukkenstraat 14 6524NB Nijmegen tel: 024-3888063 / 06-51855277 fax: 024-3608416 web: www.askesis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1320865878.3383.14.ca...@asterix.askesis.nl
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:34:59 -0500, Doug wrote: > Out of curiosity I downloaded the LIVE Fedora 16. The user interface is > like nothing I ever saw. If this is the future of computing, I think > I'll go back to pocket calculator and typewriter! Fedora is my main distribution, though I use Debian Squeeze as well. I abandoned GNOME when Fedora 15 emerged with GNOME3, and after trying KDE, XFCE and LXDE, adopted LXDE as my DE instead. I have never looked back. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9eidj$hr0$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On 11/09/2011 12:34 PM, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Red Hat Linux = Red Hat's original commercial product Commercial?! You could get it for free like Fedora as well as get it for free and then enter into a service contract with RH. Out of curiosity I downloaded the LIVE Fedora 16. The user interface is like nothing I ever saw. If this is the future of computing, I think I'll go back to pocket calculator and typewriter! --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebac7d3.3030...@optonline.net
Adobe flash is dead
Well, not exactly now but at lease Adobe flash is dead for all mobile devices: Adobe confirms Flash Player is dead for mobile devices http://www.engadget.com/2011/11/09/adobe-confirms-flash-player-is-dead- for-mobile-devices/ Steve Jobs wins: Flash being phased out from mobile devices http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1083764--steve-jobs-wins-flash- being-phased-out-from-mobile-devices Adobe flash is one of the tech-inventions that I resent the most. Now it is dead for all mobiles, and I wish it is dead on the web tomorrow. Comments? -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9eg6d$ves$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: KDE package manager
On 11/09/2011 03:33 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 03 nov 11, 10:59:43, Ken Heard wrote: Sian Mountbatten wrote, in part: Is there a KDE package manager available? What happened to KDE's Kpackage? It is in Lenny, but I do not see it in the Debian repositories for Squeeze and Wheezy. As far as I recall kpackage did not support APT correctly and was eventually abandoned. Kind regards, Andrei Can you get Synaptic? That works nicely in my pclos KDE system. It gets its input via apt, I believe. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebac0dd.50...@optonline.net
Re: Suspending script.
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 06:41:37AM GMT, Sthu Deus wrote: > w/ the following content: I assume that the script has got the shebang? #!/bin/sh > # /etc/pm/sleep.d/50osus > [...] > Now, after suspending/resuming I see that nothing was done: after > resuming top shows me the same data about the process as it was before > suspending. > > What can be wrong? Any suggestions, please. What if happens you run it manually? Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009173642.ga16...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: partitions missing on my external hard drive
Thanks both for your replies. Dans linux.debian.user, vous avez écrit : > Selim: >>Have you tried running it as root? I'm not sure if it's needed but in >>case it is... it's the same result running as root. I think fdisk -l does not need being run as root. >>You might also try cfdisk. I seem to remember that once I had a >>problem with seeing the partitions with fdisk but cfdisk worked, >>though I'm not absolutely sure. I'm not successful with cfdisk. > I think it is hardware (USB-to-SATA?) failure. I had same problem few > months ago. I think arno has two options here: > > 1. Ether to try to restore its partition table w/ fdisk or whatever > tool - it will be quiet easy if there was single partition. But I can't even operate on the disk with fdisk: # fdisk /dev/sdb fdisk: unable to open /dev/sdb: No medium found Note that my data is only backup, so I don't care losing them when fixing my hard drive. Regards, arno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjblcve.mqi.a...@renevier.net
Re: OT: Just a simple query
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 6:30 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > Red Hat Linux = Red Hat's original commercial product Commercial?! You could get it for free like Fedora as well as get it for free and then enter into a service contract with RH. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SxMRyvg646XETFtuT_GU7_JoWV2=nneop9hzrucpwv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Getting mail using gnus
Sian Mountbatten writes: [...] > When I issue the command M-x gnus in Emacs, some messages flash > by in the echo area, but I do not get any mail. gnus treats imap folders as newsgroups, so you have to subscribe to them. When in the "Group" buffer, press ^ to access the "Server" buffer. Then enter your imap server, and subscribe to any folder that you want. HTH, -- Rémi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87wrb942v9@poukram.net
Getting mail using gnus
My gnus-init-file contains the following: == (setq user-full-name "Sian Mountbatten") (setq user-mail-address "poenik...@operamail.com") (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "nntp.aioe.org")) (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "Opera" (nnimap-address "mail.messagingengine.com") (nnimap-authenticator "poenikatu") (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnimap-server-port 993) (remove-prefix "INBOX.") (nnimap-authinfo-file "/home/sian/.imap-authinfo" == The file .imap-authinfo contains == machine mail.messagingengine.com login poenikatu password ** port 993 == When I issue the command M-x gnus in Emacs, some messages flash by in the echo area, but I do not get any mail. Has anybody got any ideas what I am doing wrong? Any help would be much appreciated. You might remember that I know very little about Emacs Lisp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipmt2ph8@operamail.com
Re: job in crontab not running
On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 15:33, Bob Proulx wrote: > The nscd is not required for cron jobs to run. I don't want to > suggest that you thrash your production machine but if you could test > this on a test machine I think you will find that nscd is not required > for cron. Really it isn't! I assure you that since I had a bad > experience with it that I never install nscd, or remove it if I find > it installed, and yet cron works perfectly fine for all users. > Specifically I am talking about NIS/YP accounts. Thanks, I think I'm following your point now. I'll have a look. Cheers Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+mfgz1rwmcsmkwrjzhagu9fpcprolqhhrykucnqnfwicke...@mail.gmail.com
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:41:38 -0500 "Dan B." wrote: > J. Bakshi wrote: > > On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:34:57 +0100 > > Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > >> ... You need to either run "bash -x > >>
Re: wheezy / gnome3
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:12:02 +, Richard wrote: > On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:51:30 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:42:44 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: (...) >> > Still holding back the upgrade and quite unsure on how to proceed. >> >> Resistance is futile and you will be assimilated... The upgrade came >> along with several new packages that were pulled and also lots of >> updates ;-( >> > > Just maybe the maintainers might just tweak it a bit, its a pain not > being able right click on a menu item to add it to either the desktop or > panel. It ignores the settings for auto login. Well, I have finally managed to leave gnome-shell at a mostly usable stage for my netbook. Wow... it took me an hour: installed gnome-tweak-tools and did some basic customizations for the environment (restore gnome desktop and min/max buttons, adjusted the font face/size for applications...) and finally the last big step, manually edited "/usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome- shell.css" (hint: before modifying this file it is recommended to make a copy of the original one, because any error in this CSS will render gnome- shell unable to load, although fallback mode is still able to start). After editing the CSS file, to apply the changes, Alt+F2 (to run a command) and type "r", this will reload the shell. After that, I made a copy of the modified CSS file just in case an update destroys my working hour and finally now I feel *much much much* better :-) I still have to make some adjustments, such as removing that blurry shadow that is projected around every window, remove a second shadow which is visible for the text label of the desktop icons and remove the accessibility icon from the top bar. In the end not that bad as it seemed but heck, until there is a tool to properly manage these settings from a more suitable place, it's very annoying to manually customize the UI. A couple of snapshots with the result: Activities http://picpaste.com/Pantallazo-sXQRcCfZ.png Desktop http://picpaste.com/Pantallazo-1-11aA8Vc5.png Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.09.17.08...@gmail.com
Re: More nvidia questions
Thanks Andre. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > $ uname -a > Linux think 3.1.0-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 5 13:56:27 UTC 2011 x86_64 > GNU/Linux > $ dpkg --print-architecture > i386 > $ dpkg -l nvidia-glx | grep ^ii > ii nvidia-glx 290.06-1 > NVIDIA metapackage > Interesting. 290.06? The one I got from experimental a couple of weeks ago was 290.03. I think I need to try it. > However, I did get your error because I forgot to unload the old nvidia > module. You can diagnose this if you look in /var/log/syslog, I got: > > Nov 8 23:56:20 think kernel: [ 837.995242] NVRM: API mismatch: the > client has the version 290.06, but > Nov 8 23:56:20 think kernel: [ 837.995244] NVRM: this kernel module has > the version 275.36. Please > Nov 8 23:56:20 think kernel: [ 837.995245] NVRM: make sure that this > kernel module and all NVIDIA driver > Nov 8 23:56:20 think kernel: [ 837.995247] NVRM: components have the > same version. > > but X started without any issues after I ran 'modprobe -r nvidia'. > I did a reboot. I just had to do an upgrade, but I'll see if I the newer drivers will work. Thanks Andre. --b > > Hope this helps, > Andrei > -- > Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic >
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
J. Bakshi wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:34:57 +0100 Jochen Spieker wrote: ... You need to either run "bash -x
Re: samba weirdly taking wrong password - never mind (mostly solved)
I wrote: I'm having a really weird problem: the Samba server accepts a _wrong_ password instead of the expected password. ... Never mind. I finally figured out that Samba was checking some Samba layer of passwords instead of the regular Linux password layer. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ebaa89e.4020...@kempt.net
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 07:46:46 -0500 Tom H wrote: ? > > http://mywiki.wooledge.org/Bashism > Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009202205.2553e...@shiva.selfip.org
Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
On 09/11/11 12:50, Alberto Luaces wrote: Miles Fidelman writes: Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 11/9/2011 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: try smartctl -A /dev/sda that will give you a much longer list of statistics collected by the drive the one I always look at first is the absolute value of "raw read errors" - if that's higher than 0, the drive is starting to fail, and its internal code is spending more and more time trying to read and re-read data off the media Excellent information! Not really. The numbers are not absolutes. And they differ among manufacturers. S.M.A.R.T. is a data format standard for "drive health", but it does not dictate "value" standards for the field contents. For the end user, attempting to interpret some S.M.A.R.T. data for some makes of drives is hit or miss. I would say as a general rule that one should contact the drive manufacturer if s/he sees S.M.A.R.T. error counts rise. The drive may or may not be failing. Specifically for "raw read error" - in the format ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 088 088 062 Pre-fail Always - 3342368 I've found, across many different dries, that the "VALUE" field (which is a relative field calculated over time) is generally useless, while the RAW_VALUE field is almost always indicative of pending failure if it's value is anything other than 0. All my drives have a RAW_VALUE for that parameter not equal to 0: machine1$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdb | grep "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 108 099 006Pre-fail Always - 18696503 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 087 087 000Old_age Always - 11987 machine1$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda | grep "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 111 086 006Pre-fail Always - 35575453 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 069 069 000Old_age Always - 27906 Even with new drives: machine2$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdb | grep -e "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 100 006Pre-fail Always - 131149163 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 475 machine2$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdc | grep -e "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 111 100 006Pre-fail Always - 31090694 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 285 Those are all Seagate drives. Maybe their raw value means something different. Maybe. Power_On_Hours will be almost always be greater than zero, but Raw_Read_Error_Rate is showing as zero on all my drives. -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eba8d84.20...@rpdom.net
Re: wheezy / gnome3
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:51:30 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:42:44 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > > > On 08/11/2011 18:54, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote: > >> > >>> Hi there : help ! > >> > >> Here we go :-) > >> > >>> I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming > >> > >> Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, > >> text is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-( > > > > XFCE? (hope not to start a flame...) > > > > I tried gnome 3 on the opensuse cd.. and although I tried hard to be > > unbiased it just didn't seem to work for me. > > Not still, but XFCE is indeed in my radar. > > > Still holding back the upgrade and quite unsure on how to proceed. > > Resistance is futile and you will be assimilated... The upgrade came > along with several new packages that were pulled and also lots of > updates ;-( > > Greetings, > Hi Just maybe the maintainers might just tweak it a bit, its a pain not being able right click on a menu item to add it to either the desktop or panel. It ignores the settings for auto login. -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Debian Wheezy amd64 on a Dual core AMD Athlon 5200, 4 GB RAM Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009141202.2d90901d@debian
Re: Usenet news - server required
Alberto Luaces writes: > Sian Mountbatten writes: > >> I have succeeded in setting gnus-select-method to getting news, but >> I have not seen anything about how to get my mail. Can you tell me >> how to setup gnus to read mail? > > Here (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail) you have some hints to > get your mail with POP or IMAP. Even it's related to gmail, the changes > for other mail services are trivial. I also remeber (http://efod.se/writings/gnus-and-courier) as a good source of information about IMAP access from gnus. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mxc5xxeu@eps142.cdf.udc.es
Re: /etc/default/keyboard XKBOPTIONS not read by X
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:50:57AM GMT, Bob Proulx wrote: > Dan B. wrote: > > I tried swapping the left Control key and Caps Lock key by modifying > > the XKBOPTIONS value in /etc/default/keyboard, per instructions that > > said it would take effect for both the virtual consoles and X. I presume you've restarted restarted udev or rebooted since then? % udevadm trigger --subsystem-match=input --action=change Can we see the content of your file (without the comments), please? Could you also point us to the instructions you've used as well, please? Regards, -- Raf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2009125942.ga16...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Usenet news - server required
Sian Mountbatten writes: > I have succeeded in setting gnus-select-method to getting news, but > I have not seen anything about how to get my mail. Can you tell me > how to setup gnus to read mail? Here (http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusGmail) you have some hints to get your mail with POP or IMAP. Even it's related to gmail, the changes for other mail services are trivial. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r51hxxs9@eps142.cdf.udc.es
Re: wheezy / gnome3
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:42:44 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > On 08/11/2011 18:54, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote: >> >>> Hi there : help ! >> >> Here we go :-) >> >>> I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming >> >> Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, >> text is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-( > > XFCE? (hope not to start a flame...) > > I tried gnome 3 on the opensuse cd.. and although I tried hard to be > unbiased it just didn't seem to work for me. Not still, but XFCE is indeed in my radar. > Still holding back the upgrade and quite unsure on how to proceed. Resistance is futile and you will be assimilated... The upgrade came along with several new packages that were pulled and also lots of updates ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.09.12.51...@gmail.com
Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
Miles Fidelman writes: > Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 11/9/2011 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: >>> Miles Fidelman wrote: try smartctl -A /dev/sda that will give you a much longer list of statistics collected by the drive the one I always look at first is the absolute value of "raw read errors" - if that's higher than 0, the drive is starting to fail, and its internal code is spending more and more time trying to read and re-read data off the media >>> Excellent information! >> Not really. The numbers are not absolutes. And they differ among >> manufacturers. S.M.A.R.T. is a data format standard for "drive >> health", but it does not dictate "value" standards for the field >> contents. >> >> For the end user, attempting to interpret some S.M.A.R.T. data for >> some makes of drives is hit or miss. I would say as a general rule >> that one should contact the drive manufacturer if s/he sees >> S.M.A.R.T. error counts rise. The drive may or may not be failing. > > Specifically for "raw read error" - in the format > > ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED > RAW_VALUE > 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 088 088 062 Pre-fail Always - 3342368 > > I've found, across many different dries, that the "VALUE" field (which > is a relative field calculated over time) is generally useless, while > the RAW_VALUE field is almost always indicative of pending failure if > it's value is anything other than 0. All my drives have a RAW_VALUE for that parameter not equal to 0: machine1$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdb | grep "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 108 099 006Pre-fail Always - 18696503 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 087 087 000Old_age Always - 11987 machine1$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sda | grep "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 111 086 006Pre-fail Always - 35575453 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 069 069 000Old_age Always - 27906 Even with new drives: machine2$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdb | grep -e "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 117 100 006Pre-fail Always - 131149163 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 475 machine2$ sudo smartctl -A /dev/sdc | grep -e "Read\|Power_On" 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f 111 100 006Pre-fail Always - 31090694 9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 100 100 000Old_age Always - 285 Those are all Seagate drives. Maybe their raw value means something different. -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vcqtxxx8@eps142.cdf.udc.es
Re: Usenet news - server required
Harry Putnam writes: > Sian Mountbatten writes: > > [...] > >>> I personally use Pan, but Thunderbird and Icedove also embedd a >>> newsreader. >>> > > Waa Wa sniffle sniffle... no one is paying the proper > attention to my suggestion of emacs/gnus > > It is vastly the superior news/mail reader. I have installed emacs23 and am using it to post this reply to your article. I have succeeded in setting gnus-select-method to getting news, but I have not seen anything about how to get my mail. Can you tell me how to setup gnus to read mail? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87aa85o5bu@operamail.com
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 6:41 AM, J. Bakshi wrote: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:33:17 + > kuLa wrote: >> On 09/11/11 11:15, J. Bakshi wrote: >> > >> > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. >> > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the >> > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: wheezy / gnome3
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Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 11/9/2011 1:34 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: try smartctl -A /dev/sda that will give you a much longer list of statistics collected by the drive the one I always look at first is the absolute value of "raw read errors" - if that's higher than 0, the drive is starting to fail, and its internal code is spending more and more time trying to read and re-read data off the media Excellent information! Not really. The numbers are not absolutes. And they differ among manufacturers. S.M.A.R.T. is a data format standard for "drive health", but it does not dictate "value" standards for the field contents. For the end user, attempting to interpret some S.M.A.R.T. data for some makes of drives is hit or miss. I would say as a general rule that one should contact the drive manufacturer if s/he sees S.M.A.R.T. error counts rise. The drive may or may not be failing. Specifically for "raw read error" - in the format ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE 1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 088 088 062Pre-fail Always - 3342368 I've found, across many different dries, that the "VALUE" field (which is a relative field calculated over time) is generally useless, while the RAW_VALUE field is almost always indicative of pending failure if it's value is anything other than 0. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eba721a.1010...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Gnome workspace manager has disappeared -- Help!
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 20:17:09 -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> Somehow the workspace manager and the index which appeared at the lower
> right of the screen have disappeared.
Have you tried to add them again?
Besides, sometimes the applet is there but constrained because of the
lack of space, check if you have locked any elements that prevent the
applets to be visible.
> If I right-click on a window tab in the task bar I can move the window
> to another workspace, and the window selector will show that the windows
> are in the workspace where they were moved to, but there is still no
> index and all of the window tabs are in the task bar.
>
> How do I get my window manager and the index back? I can't find any
> program or package that is called window manager.
You can also:
1/ Restart your panel ("killall gnome-panel")
2/ Add a new panel and start adding applets from scratch. When you're
done, remove the old and incomplete panel and save your session, just in
case.
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Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
Bob Proulx wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: try smartctl -A /dev/sda that will give you a much longer list of statistics collected by the drive the one I always look at first is the absolute value of "raw read errors" - if that's higher than 0, the drive is starting to fail, and its internal code is spending more and more time trying to read and re-read data off the media Excellent information! Thanks! What's really weird is that none of the basic system monitoring tools, at least the ones I've encountered, monitor or alert on raw read error - including the basic SMART monitoring tools. After learning about this the hard way, I always build a new box with a cron job that simply runs the command daily, and emails me the result. Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eba711b.6020...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Disk performance deteriated to unbearable levels
Bob Proulx wrote: For your next system I highly recommend setting it up with RAID. It makes problems like these so much easier. [Of course because of the problem with flooding in Thailand and human reaction to it the cost of disk drives is soaring right now. Unfortunate timing to lose a drive.] Something to keep in mind if you go with RAID: - Conventional "desktop" drives make best efforts to read data off the media. As the "raw read error" rate goes up, the drive spends more and more time trying to re-read the media, often succeeding, right up to the point of catastrophic failure. On the one hand, this is a good thing - you're more likely to recover your data. On the other hand, it's horrible, in that: - you start seeing response times slow to a crawl (as in the case here) - if the drive is part of a RAID array, the entire array will slow to a crawl (at least with linux software RAID, md will not drop a slow drive out of the array) - What you want is an "enterprise drive" that gives up very quickly if it can't read the media. That way, the drive will return a read error the the RAID driver (or hardware), the drive will be dropped from the array, and the array will read your data from another drive. Hopefully you'll also get notified that the drive has failed, so you can replace it. Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eba70a5.1080...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Gnome Control Panel Is there one?
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:43:39 -0600, John W. Foster wrote: > I have Linux Mint & Ubuntu Installed, & at one time I tried KDE, & all > as I recall have a control panel for changing a lot of the hardware > configs as well as preferred apps & desktop layout. Is there a similar > app for Gnome in Debian Stable? A search of the words control & panel > have not turned up what I,m looking for in Synaptic. Any ideas? > frosty Yes, there is (kind of...) but it's hidden by default. Right-click on the GNOME start button → Menu Edit → System → [x] Control Center. I hope this is what you are looking for. It is just another layout to display the tools your system has installed. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.09.12.19...@gmail.com
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 12:34:57 +0100 Jochen Spieker wrote: > J. Bakshi: > > > > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. > > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the > > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: dial-up modem usage
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:16:12 -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > I'm setting up a Debian system for a friend, and he uses a dial-up > modem. It's been many years since I dealt with a modem, so I could use > a few tips. > > I know that winmodems probably won't work, so I may have to swap it out > for something in my old parts bin. What is used to control dialup these > days? Does NetworkManager do it? 5 years ago I was using kppp on > Mandrake... Use the old good "wvdial" and you're done. It was working years ago and still works as usual. There are also GUI front-ends for it (like kppp or gnome-ppp) but manually editing the configuration file is something what never fails. There is also ppp (pppconfig o gpppon tools) for this task. > This system will have occasional access to wireless high speed internet, > so I need a solution that allows for that as well. I would go NetworkManager for wifi and wvdial for dial-up. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.09.12.15...@gmail.com
Re: wheezy / gnome3
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:12:38 +, Richard wrote: (...) >> I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding >> CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming >> update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell "as >> is" (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait >> for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy). >> >> >> > The gnome-tweak-tool is in wheezy, It was not at the time I did the upgrade. It now is, thanks for the "heads-up" :-) > but the gnome3 extensions are not, nor is the side panel with the apps > you use most. At the moment its a awkward hybrid. I fear of starting my wheezy, it looks so ugly and unuseful... I don't even recognize it. And some dialog menus are so big that are not full visible in my 10.1" netbook (I miss "help/close" bottom buttons :-/) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.09.12.08...@gmail.com
Re: wheezy / gnome3
Hello List:
On 09/11/11 00:12, Richard wrote:
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:54:17 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
Hi there : help !
Here we go :-)
I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming
Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, text
is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(
1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350
(...)
Check if you have 3D capabilities "on" ("glxinfo | grep -i render").
I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but the
desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.
You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?
2. Any reasonable gnome 3 guide to get things work out ? (no shortcuts,
no panel config, no desktop icons and the two panels (upper an lower)
are black and no config i can guess)
I have to surrender.
I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding
CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming
update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell "as
is" (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait
for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy).
Greetings,
The gnome-tweak-tool is in wheezy, but the gnome3 extensions are not, nor is
the side panel with the
apps you use most.
At the moment its a awkward hybrid.
What would be a temporary good alternative ? xfce4 ?
Thanks in advance,
Jerome
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Re: wheezy / gnome3
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:46:03 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
> On 11/08/2011 03:54 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi there : help !
>> Here we go :-)
>>
>>> I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming
>> Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live,
>> text is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(
>
> And i thought mine was ugly
Yup. Definitively yesterday was a day not worth to remember ;-(
>>> 1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350
>> (...)
>>
>> Check if you have 3D capabilities "on" ("glxinfo | grep -i render").
>
> $ glxinfo | grep -i render
> direct rendering: Yes
> OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
^^^
> GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,
There you have it. I think software rendering is (at least by now) not
supported by gnome-shell so it drops you into the fallback mode. But I'm
unsure is by disabling KMS you also lose 3D capabilities :-?
>>> I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but the
>>> desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.
>> You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
>> maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?
>
> I got this computer working without kms because on squeeze was unusable,
> same with wheezy, although in better shape. Now is very slow on
> responding either display, mouse, keyboard.
>
> Maybe i have to search for some other tweak to make it work fine.
(...)
KMS with a radeon driver/ATI card is a must nowadays. Any problem you
experience with this combo is better to be reported so it gets corrected
ASAP.
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Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, Nov 09, 2011 at 12:41:00PM CET, "J. Bakshi" said: > On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:33:17 + > kuLa wrote: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > On 09/11/11 11:15, J. Bakshi wrote: > > > > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. > > > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the > > > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: Re: debian/testing - new Gnome (after today's upgrade) - very slow user switching when different settings are used
Hugo wrote: | You mean 2 different users logged into different sessions through | gdm3? Yes, the problem occures when two different users are logged in gdm3 in different modes. One with "Gnome" and the second with "tryb zastępczy Gnome" (is it "Gnome fallback" in english?). -- Wojtek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1320838690.12701.2.ca...@wzlap.nasz.dom
Re: wheezy / gnome3
Lorenzo, no flames here. I try to be agnostic on this (and i like and use xfce
on other pc's)
I must plunge into newer things to come, and they will come .
As for gnome 3, so far, i'm going better than with the first iterations of kde
4 .
The problem is I could not prepare migration as I didn't see it coming on the
updates.
Pablo
On 08/11/2011 18:54, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
Hi there : help !
Here we go :-)
I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming
Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, text
is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(
XFCE? (hope not to start a flame...)
I tried gnome 3 on the opensuse cd.. and although I tried hard to be unbiased
it just didn't seem to work for me.
Still holding back the upgrade and quite unsure on how to proceed.
Lorenzo.
1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350
(...)
Check if you have 3D capabilities "on" ("glxinfo | grep -i render").
I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but the
desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.
You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?
2. Any reasonable gnome 3 guide to get things work out ? (no shortcuts,
no panel config, no desktop icons and the two panels (upper an lower)
are black and no config i can guess)
I have to surrender.
I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding
CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming
update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell "as
is" (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait
for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy).
Greetings,
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Re: wheezy / gnome3
Richard, with gnome-tweak-tool i got some of my desktop back , thank you,
really .
I just checked the option, in File Manager, to manage my desktop .
Pablo
On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 17:54:17 + (UTC)
Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
Hi there : help !
Here we go :-)
I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming
Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, text
is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(
1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350
(...)
Check if you have 3D capabilities "on" ("glxinfo | grep -i render").
I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but the
desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.
You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?
2. Any reasonable gnome 3 guide to get things work out ? (no shortcuts,
no panel config, no desktop icons and the two panels (upper an lower)
are black and no config i can guess)
I have to surrender.
I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding
CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming
update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell "as
is" (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait
for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy).
Greetings,
The gnome-tweak-tool is in wheezy, but the gnome3 extensions are not, nor is
the side panel with the
apps you use most.
At the moment its a awkward hybrid.
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Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 11:33:17 + kuLa wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 09/11/11 11:15, J. Bakshi wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. > > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the > > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
J. Bakshi: > > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: sh malfunction after upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/11/11 11:15, J. Bakshi wrote: > > Hello list, > > I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. > The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the > loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: high galvanic skin response vs os's
On Tue, Nov 08, 2011 at 09:43:04PM -0800, stefan long wrote: >i have interfered with computers to a greater or lesser degree all my >life. > >i have been led to believe that Linux OS may be less susceptible to me >that >gates'. > >is there anyone out there that can shed some light here? offer >suggestions? > >i have burned up watches, cell phones, and laptops; prevented input to >DeVry's computers (Long Beach Ca 90's); and crashed banks of computers >by logging on @ Golden West College (Huntington Beach, Ca 70's). > >a fairly common suggestion is to wear a grounding strap, which i haven't >done. > >thank you I would imagine that the primary cause of failure would be the hardware, rather than the software per se. That said, you have two courses of action if you want the software to keep running. A) Have software that is more tolerant to hardware failures. This is possible on Linux. Linux gives you easy access to features such as RAID, network bonding, bad RAM avoidance and so on that may be costly or impossible on Windows (I'm not aware, for example, of Windows having an equivalent to the BadRAM patch). B) Have hardware that is more resistant to failures in the first place. Most PCs are built to a budget, so components are usually as cheap as they can get away with. However, industrial computers are often designed with a different environment in mind, so different engineering decisions are taken (e.g. automotive computers, factory-floor computers... I have even heard of a computer being attached via a long pole to a nuclear device). You may find something like this suitable. -- Darac Marjal signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: wheezy / gnome3
On 08/11/2011 18:54, Camaleón wrote:
On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 14:20:58 -0200, Pablo Sánchez wrote:
Hi there : help !
Here we go :-)
I updated wheezy(amd64) and i got gnome3, i didn't see it coming
Oh, yes... what a sad day. My desktop is now blue and with no live, text
is rendered blurry and life has turned completely grey :-(
XFCE? (hope not to start a flame...)
I tried gnome 3 on the opensuse cd.. and although I tried hard to be
unbiased it just didn't seem to work for me.
Still holding back the upgrade and quite unsure on how to proceed.
Lorenzo.
1. It runs in fallback mode on a ati radeon mobility 1350
(...)
Check if you have 3D capabilities "on" ("glxinfo | grep -i render").
I can trurn kms on, on /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf , but the
desktop is a bit unusable, pretty but unusable.
You have KMS disabled and radeon driver still works? That's good but
maybe KMS is needed to get gnome-shell working :-?
2. Any reasonable gnome 3 guide to get things work out ? (no shortcuts,
no panel config, no desktop icons and the two panels (upper an lower)
are black and no config i can guess)
I have to surrender.
I know all of the settings can be tweaked by editing the corresponding
CSS file but this file will be overwritten with any of the upcoming
update affecting gnome-shell, so I decided to leave the gnome-shell "as
is" (in a very bad shape) and wait for better times to come (aka: wait
for gnome-tweak-tool to be in wheezy).
Greetings,
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sh malfunction after upgrade
Hello list, I have upgraded a very old lenny server to squeeze. The shell scripts are now malfunctioning; specially the loop statement. Moreover "sh -x
Re: partitions missing on my external hard drive
Selim: >> [334302.538188] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk >> >> fdisk -l output: >> >> $ fdisk -l /dev/sdb >> $ >> >> (nothing was output) > >Have you tried running it as root? I'm not sure if it's needed but in >case it is... > >You might also try cfdisk. I seem to remember that once I had a >problem with seeing the partitions with fdisk but cfdisk worked, >though I'm not absolutely sure. I think it is hardware (USB-to-SATA?) failure. I had same problem few months ago. I think arno has two options here: 1. Ether to try to restore its partition table w/ fdisk or whatever tool - it will be quiet easy if there was single partition. 2. Try w /data recovery tools - in my experience far harder and improper way of restoration in such a case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4eba5da8.cf96cc0a.7962.b...@mx.google.com
Re: Re: job in crontab not running
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