Re: Full Disk Encryption

[J. Bakshi]

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 00:23:10 -0700
Aaron Toponce  wrote:

> Because this is a subject near and dear to my heart, I feel the urge to
> chime in.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:45:29AM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:
> > I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), 
> > but what makes me stop
> > is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( 
> > i5 + 4 GB ) with full
> > disk encryption and it is performing normal, haven't found any lag...
> 
> I have done extensive benchmarking, and have found that you will have
> different performance results, based on the cipher and key size that you
> choose. ECB (electronic code block) out performs the other block ciphers,
> but it suffers from a pattern attack [1]. As a result, when using a LUKS
> formatted partition/volume with cryptsetup(8), I usually do the following:
> 
> # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/device bs=4096
> # cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes -s 128 /path/to/device
> 
> The first step, obviously, it to fill the entire device with pseudorandom
> data, so it is not clear where the encrypted filesystem starts and ends.
> Then, I create the encrypted filesystem in the second step. Those options
> have given me the best performance, with ~1-2% hit on reads, and ~5% hit on
> writes.
> 
> 1. http://ae7.st/s/i.pr
> 
> > So I am interested to give the FUD a try on my own laptop. How can I 
> > proceed ? My laptop is debian wheezy
> > with lots of important data.. so backup is must.. but what next ? What 
> > configuration will give me a better
> > performance , LVM based or simple partition based ? Presently excluding 
> > swap I have 3 reiserfs partition for / ; /home
> > and /movie ... no LVM. Like to hear some feedback from you guys..
> 
> LVM will add some additional overhead, but nothing more than ~2% hit for
> writes. Usually, I'll setup my filesystem as follows:
> 
> # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/device bs=4096
> # cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes -s 128 /path/to/device
> # cryptsetup luksOpen /path/to/device crypt-device
> # pvcreate /dev/mapper/crypt-device
> # vgcreate data /dev/mapper/crypt-device
> # lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n crypt-volume data
> # mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/crypt-volume
> # mount /dev/mapper/crypt-volume /mnt
> 
> At which point I can start copying data. If the device has already been
> filled with pseudorandom or encrypted data, then there is no point in
> running the dd(1) step.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 

Thanks for sharing


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Re: Full Disk Encryption

[Aaron Toponce]

Because this is a subject near and dear to my heart, I feel the urge to
chime in.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:45:29AM +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:
> I am always interested in Full disk encryption for my laptop ( i5 + 3 GB ), 
> but what makes me stop
> is the thinking of performance lag. Recently I have seen an ububtu laptop ( 
> i5 + 4 GB ) with full
> disk encryption and it is performing normal, haven't found any lag...

I have done extensive benchmarking, and have found that you will have
different performance results, based on the cipher and key size that you
choose. ECB (electronic code block) out performs the other block ciphers,
but it suffers from a pattern attack [1]. As a result, when using a LUKS
formatted partition/volume with cryptsetup(8), I usually do the following:

# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/device bs=4096
# cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes -s 128 /path/to/device

The first step, obviously, it to fill the entire device with pseudorandom
data, so it is not clear where the encrypted filesystem starts and ends.
Then, I create the encrypted filesystem in the second step. Those options
have given me the best performance, with ~1-2% hit on reads, and ~5% hit on
writes.

1. http://ae7.st/s/i.pr

> So I am interested to give the FUD a try on my own laptop. How can I proceed 
> ? My laptop is debian wheezy
> with lots of important data.. so backup is must.. but what next ? What 
> configuration will give me a better
> performance , LVM based or simple partition based ? Presently excluding swap 
> I have 3 reiserfs partition for / ; /home
> and /movie ... no LVM. Like to hear some feedback from you guys..

LVM will add some additional overhead, but nothing more than ~2% hit for
writes. Usually, I'll setup my filesystem as follows:

# dd if=/dev/urandom of=/path/to/device bs=4096
# cryptsetup luksFormat -c aes -s 128 /path/to/device
# cryptsetup luksOpen /path/to/device crypt-device
# pvcreate /dev/mapper/crypt-device
# vgcreate data /dev/mapper/crypt-device
# lvcreate -l 100%FREE -n crypt-volume data
# mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/crypt-volume
# mount /dev/mapper/crypt-volume /mnt

At which point I can start copying data. If the device has already been
filled with pseudorandom or encrypted data, then there is no point in
running the dd(1) step.

Hope that helps.

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Re: Re: Subversion in sid / QA page

[Farmbuyer]

Bob Proulx wrote:
> I always like to see included a reason for the request such as at
> least one specific feature that the new version provides that isn't
> available in the current version.  Just requesting a newer version
> because there is a newer version available isn't enough and is a pet
> peeve of mine.

Heh, same here.  :-)

I do some work on a few OSS projects whose site hosts have moved to 1.7.
All my SVN client operations stopped functioning with a message saying that
the working checkouts were "too old (format 10 created by Subversion 1.6)",
and that I needed to run 'svn upgrade' in my working copies.  Did that, went
back to work, didn't think much of it at the time.

Now I've moved to a different workstation setup, using Debian, and of course
those 1.7 working copies won't fly under 1.6.  I had no luck trying to get
fresh checkouts using 1.6 (under the theory that the server will notice and
downgrade its actions, which IIRC the subversion server was always good
about doing), but now I don't have the error messages handy.  Figured a 1.7
client would be the easiest solution.


> In any case, list why you want the newer version in your bts request.
> Then that bug log could become the place for the discussion of the
> newer version and why and what problems exist with it.

I think I'll hold off on filing a ticket for a while, in case the maintainer
is just on holiday.  In the meantime I'll see if I can build the source
via the standard *nix steps instead of trying to figure out the new package
build system; debian/rules has changed a lot since the last time I looked
at it some six years ago.


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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze

[Marc Shapiro]

On 11/28/11 21:50, Marc Shapiro wrote:

My box is ALMOST working correctly, but not quite...


Well, I just rebooted again, and things are better, but still not quite 
right.




On 11/28/11 04:12, Stephen Powell wrote:

On my system, there are two files in this directory, "resume"
and "driver-policy". The "resume" file contains:

RESUME=UUID=a6948969-2d88-4ec0-93a1-6d2d803ff8b3

which specifies the UUID of the SUSPEND/RESUME device. It matches the
UUID of the swap device specified in /etc/fstab. The "driver-policy"
file contains:

# Driver inclusion policy selected during installation
# Note: this setting overrides the value set in the file
# /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
MODULES=dep


I have created both of these files:
:/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d$ cat resume
UUID=305ee6c5-c60c-4167-a57c-e13c96ed1e79

:/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d$ cat driver-policy
# Driver inclusion policy selected during installation
# Note: this setting overrides the value set in the file
# /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
MODULES=dep

Then, I reran: update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r)
which also caused lilo to run.

If I append the 'noresume' kernel option in /etc/lilo.conf then the
system boots without halting, but my swap is not mounted. If I run:

sudo swapon -a

nothing happens. If I run

sudo swapon /dev/sdc1

then the swap is properly added. My swap partition, BTW, is now 4GB and
resides on my new 1TB drive. This IS NOT the boot drive.



Since this last reboot, the swap is being properly activated at boot 
time and both 'swapoff -a' and 'swapon -a' are working. :-)



If I DO NOT append 'noresume' in /etc/lilo.conf then the system still
gives me:

Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... resume: libgcrypt version 1.4.5
resume: Could not stat the resume device file '/dev/mapper/vg1-swap'
Please type in the full path name to try again
or press ENTER to boot the system

Note that it is still looking for the OLD swap partition, NOT the new
partition on the new drive that is listed by UUID in /etc/fstab and also
in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf/resume.


This problem has NOT gone away.  I can use 'noresume' but I should not 
have to and it seems that it would be best not to, so that all power 
saving routines will work properly.


Marc


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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze

[Marc Shapiro]

My box is ALMOST working correctly, but not quite...

On 11/28/11 04:12, Stephen Powell wrote:

On my system, there are two files in this directory, "resume"
and "driver-policy".  The "resume" file contains:

RESUME=UUID=a6948969-2d88-4ec0-93a1-6d2d803ff8b3

which specifies the UUID of the SUSPEND/RESUME device.  It matches the
UUID of the swap device specified in /etc/fstab.  The "driver-policy"
file contains:

# Driver inclusion policy selected during installation
# Note: this setting overrides the value set in the file
# /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
MODULES=dep


I have created both of these files:
:/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d$ cat resume
UUID=305ee6c5-c60c-4167-a57c-e13c96ed1e79

:/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d$ cat driver-policy
# Driver inclusion policy selected during installation
# Note: this setting overrides the value set in the file
# /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
MODULES=dep

Then, I reran: update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r)
which also caused lilo to run.  My lilo.conf file is as follows:

:/etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d$ cd /etc
mns@xander:/etc$ cat lilo.conf
boot=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD400EB-00CPF0_WD-WCAAT1261081
large-memory
compact
lba32
vga=normal
prompt
timeout=100
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img.old
label="Linux_Old"
read-only

image=/boot/memtest86+.bin
label = memtest86+



and my /etc/fstab file is:

:/etc$ cat fstab
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#   



UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69
/   ext3errors=remount-ro 
 0  1

UUID=305ee6c5-c60c-4167-a57c-e13c96ed1e79
noneswapsw 
 0  0
proc/proc   procdefaults 
0  0
none/proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults 
0  0
/dev/mapper/vg1-tmp /tmpext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-var2/varext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-usr /usrext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-photos  /usr/local/photos ext3  defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-home/home   ext3defaults 
0  2


#
# Removeable Media
#

#/dev/lasonic   /media/mp3r vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autouser,noauto 
0  0
/dev/cdrom  /media/cdromiso9660 ro,user,noauto 
0  0
#/dev/sdb1  /media/pen  vfatuser,umask=,noauto 
0  0
#/dev/sdb1  /media/camera   vfatuser,umask=,noauto 
0  0
UUID=A8B0-984A  /media/mp3a vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
LABEL=PHILIPS   /media/mp3r vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=DA74-E37F  /media/sandisk  vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0   0
UUID=A8B0-984A  /media/eclipse  vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=261A-40DE  /media/kingston vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=0C50-B006  /media/mp3r2vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0



If I append the 'noresume' kernel option in /etc/lilo.conf then the 
system boots without halting, but my swap is not mounted.  If I run:


sudo swapon -a

nothing happens.  If I run

sudo swapon /dev/sdc1

then the swap is properly added.  My swap partition, BTW, is now 4GB and 
resides on my new 1TB drive.  This IS NOT the boot drive.


If I DO NOT append 'noresume' in /etc/lilo.conf then the system still 
gives me:


Begin: Running /scripts/local-premount ... resume: libgcrypt version 1.4.5
resume: Could not stat the resume device file '/dev/mapper/vg1-swap'
Please type in the full path name to try again
or press ENTER to boot the system

Note that it is still looking for the OLD swap partition, NOT the new 
partition on the new drive that is listed by UUID in /etc/fstab and also 
in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf/resume.


In this case, just as before, my swap IS NOT activated and I need to 
explicitly specify the swap partition in the swapon command.  I can not 
use swapon -a.


What am I doing wrong, here?  I have bash scripts which depend on 
'swapon -a' working, so I really need to figure this out.



Marc


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Re: Can I help?

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

On 11/29/2011 08:36 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:

The Debian community is a very large and diverse one.


1°)
Also note that is was a very good experience for me to also subscribe to 
Ubuntu, Fedora, Gentoo and other distributions mailing list, althoug you 
dont use them.


You could then have
- a global overview of the existing linux distributions
-- e.g: a libreoffice problem on a debian flavour that is also a
   problem elsewhere is an upstream libreoffice problem
- keep in touch with buzzes and security alerts

2°) Really really take advantage of the current hardware: running a 
virtual machine in a KVM or virtualbox (LXC if you're brave :-) ) is a 
helpfull strategy. You could then learn, and use it to teach/help the 
others without messing your system.


That's just my advices.

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Re: Can I help?

[Bob Proulx]

William Schafer wrote:
> I recently helped a Kuki user swap to Debian "stable". I found this
> to be a very rewarding experience.

Debian is the Universial Operating System!

> I would like to offer my help as a forum helper to the Debian
> users. Especially in the area of installation and general user help.
> ...
> I want to offer my support as someone who can assist people changing
> from another environment to Debian. I am prepared to offer this help
> through email, forums and IRC etc. I fully understand and like the
> idea that I do not do this for financial remuneration.
> 
> Can I be of service to Debian?

Sure!  You don't need approval in order to help.  This mailing list is
not moderated and is open for the use of all users of the Debian
operating system.  It is for the discussion and support of Debian
users using the system.  You do not need to be subscribed in order to
post.

Start by reading the mailing list guidelines.  Most importantly the
mailing list Code of Conduct.  That way everyone is working from the
same rules.

  http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/

And then spend some time reading the mailing list before posting.  It
is a high volume mailing list with a very large number of subscribers.
It can be overwhelming.  Take your time.  Wait for the right
opportunity.  I am sure you will see people asking questions in an
area that you will have expertise.  When that happens feel free to
jump in and help.

The Debian community is a very large and diverse one.  It has young
and old and new and experienced users and contributors.  The mailing
lists hold discussions very much like a town hall meeting.  In real
live town haul meetings are populated by people with different
interests and who are interested in different things.  Except that
being a mailing list you do not need to be acknowledged to speak to
the group.  You can simply speak.  People listen if they choose.

But also remember that sometimes the most helpful and best thing to
say is nothing.

Welcome to Debian!

Bob


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Re: checkrestart and dovecot

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi,

On 18/11/2011 1:41 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:

Andrew McGlashan wrote:

They are back, after the reboot, but not right away... looks like
I'll have to report a bug.  Now, how to tell which "old files" are
the problem


How is your python scripting?  The checkrestart script is simply a
python script.  If you have favorite methods of debugging python
scripts then you could tear into it.  If nothing else make a copy and
start putting in print statements at opportune points.

Bob


Okay, well I haven't had time to look into the code, but see the 
following now:



This was after a reboot
  [not the machine running dovecot]


# checkrestart
Found 1 processes using old versions of upgraded files
(1 distinct program)
(1 distinct packages)

Of these, 1 seem to contain init scripts which can be used to restart them:
The following packages seem to have init scripts that could be used
to restart them:
memlockd:
1016/usr/sbin/memlockd

These are the init scripts:
/etc/init.d/memlockd restart



# /etc/init.d/memlockd restart
Starting memlockd: Restarting memlockd: memlockd.


# checkrestart
Found 0 processes using old versions of upgraded files



# uname -a
Linux gx520 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Thu Nov 3 03:41:26 UTC 2011 x86_64 
GNU/Linux



# grep memlock /root/dpkg.wrk/dpkg-query-l-2026-17.20.25
ii  memlockd0.05 
daemon to lock files into RAM


# cat /etc/debian_version
6.0.3

Cheers

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Re: Full Disk Encryption

[J. Bakshi]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:24:55 -0700
Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Rick Thomas wrote:
> > Another point about using a separate swap vs including swap on the
> > encrypted LVM:  On a server,  the LVM will almost certainly be on a
> > RAID.  There's no point in putting swap on RAID.
> 
> Strongly disagree.  The point of raid is to keep the machine running
> in spite of a disk failure.  If you don't put swap on raid then a disk
> failure of your swap disk will crash your system.  By putting swap on
> raid the system keeps running.
> 
> Bob

Agreed, I also maintain some servers and the swap is on raid.
I have faced disk failure on some servers and due to raid, I could
successfully run the server with the single disk and change the 
bad disk with a 30 min. down time.


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Can I help?

[William Schafer]

Dear Sir/Madam,

My name is William Schafer. I am a forum helper (read moderator) at Kuki Linux. 
I was the first individual granted this position. Our Ubuntu based distribution 
originally for the Acer Aspire One netbook has been foundering. As a result I 
am not being called upon as much (read barely ever) as when we had our hay day!

I recently helped a Kuki user swap to Debian "stable". I found this to be a 
very rewarding experience. I would like to offer my help as a forum helper to 
the Debian users. Especially in the area of installation and general user help.

I should say that my present environment is Apple influenced and my preferred 
rig is an Macbook Air (3,1) which I have yet to to be able to install Debian 
natively. I do also have a Macbook Pro and an iMac. At present most of my 
tinkering is done with Virtualbox. However I did own an Aspire one and I did 
contribute.

I want to offer my support as someone who can assist people changing from 
another environment to Debian. I am prepared to offer this help through email, 
forums and IRC etc. I fully understand and like the idea that I do not do this 
for financial remuneration.

Can I be of service to Debian? I sincerely hope so. I can be contacted at 
william.scha...@me.com. My screen name at Kuki.me/forum is Limey Bstard (so you 
can evaluate my forum abilities).

Yours sincerely, William Schafer.





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Re: Laptop Not Resuming From Hibernation

[Stephen Powell]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:52:59 -0500 (EST), Colin Lancaster wrote:
> 
> I recently installed Debian 6.0.3 (squeeze) on my Acer Aspire
> 5735 laptop and I'm having problems resuming after hibernation.
> 
> Hibernation seems to succeed; the computer takes some time and shuts
> off. Then, when I press the power to resume, the power turns on and
> the hard drive light is active - but then it stops and turns off.
> 
> If I remove my laptop from AC (and remove the battery), and then go
> back on AC, it will start up (but not in the same state prior to
> hibernation).
> 

How big is your swap partition in comparison with the size of
installed memory?

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Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

[Freeman]

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of  related shortcuts there.
> remove them and you'll be all set up.
> 

(Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)

That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
entered under Xfce4 the space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
of the box in Gnome and Openbox.  Although I do have space working
for gmrun.  For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.

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"Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the
answer." --Somebody


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Gespräch vom Mittwoch

[Robert Schneider]

Hallo Sven,
sollte dich doch informieren, wie das neue Mittel gegen Mundgeruch heißt.
Auf der Flasche steht HALPAX , hat Susanne irgendwo im I-Net gefunden. 
Funktioniert super!
Bis nächsten Samstag und bleib sauber! ;-) 
Robert

Re: Re: Wifi card Realtek 8192SEvB not working on a Lenovo Thinkpad T500 on Debian testing

[don]

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 07:37:43PM +0100, Eric Veiras Galisson wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Eric Veiras Galisson <
> eric.veirasgalis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > i recently upgraded my laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad T500) from squeeze to
> > testing and the PCMCIA Wifi card I was using now crashes my system, 
so I'm

> > back to try to use my internal Wifi card.
> >
> > It's a Realtek 8192SEvB
> >
> > # lspci -nn|grep -i wireless
> > 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
> > RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller [10ec:8172] (rev 10)
> >
> > When looking at http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#supported-r8192-pci this
> > model is usable with the rtl8192se driver.
> >(...)
> Nevermind it works now and that's great, sorry for the noise...

> >What is the exact name of the driver you are using?

> >Is it included in the stock kernel, or did you have
> >to compile the Realtek driver sources?

> >Thanks,


> >--
> >Joel Roth

For me I just had to download the rtl8192sefw.bin from the realtek 
firmware deb. You can install through the package manager, though for me 
I had to manually install it to the /lib/firmware/ dir making sure to 
keep the directory rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin. Then just reboot and you 
will be good to go. I found that if you dont have it in that directory 
it will not find it in the user version of the directory.


The other thing I had to do was ditch NetworkManager and install Wicd. I 
am running Wheezy KDE, 3.1.0-1-amd64


Hope this may help


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Re: XFCE - Desktop Problems

[Ethan Rosenberg]

At 10:13 AM 11/28/2011, you wrote:

Hi,

On 28/11/11 15:42, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Dear list -

I just upgraded my sid distribution.

Now - I can't -- 1] move, maximize or minimize windows. 2] close open
windows so I can see the desktop.


Try to run xfwm4 command (ALT + F2 and then type it in)

Also make sure this starts when you start the session.

3] see the window list.

You have to add it to the panel. In XFCE it's called "Window Buttons"

Lorenzo.


HELP, ASAP

Thanks.

Ethan Rosenberg

Debian 6.0.1a squeeze(sid)



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Laptop Not Resuming From Hibernation

[Colin Lancaster]

Hello,

I recently installed Debian 6.0.3 (squeeze) on my Acer Aspire 5735 laptop and
I'm having problems resuming after hibernation.

Hibernation seems to succeed; the computer takes some time and shuts
off. Then, when I press the power to resume, the power turns on and
the hard drive light is active - but then it stops and turns off.

If I remove my laptop from AC (and remove the battery), and then go
back on AC, it will start up (but not in the same state prior to
hibernation).

Thanks,
Colin


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VirtualBox and VNC keymap

[Daniel Bareiro]

Hi all!

I'm using VirtualBox OSE on a host without a GUI and I'm trying to
connect via VNC to install a VM with Debian Squeeze. The syntax I use on
VirtualBox OSE to start the VM is the following:

$ VBoxHeadless -startvm Debian --vnc --vncport 5901


When I get the hostname configuration screen, seems not to receive
keystrokes. What does not work is to write the hostname, but I can use
the arrow keys to go back or continue. ALT+Shift gets the keyboard
numbers and letters working again [1]. Then I can enter Capital and
press Caps Lock again and it return to normal.

But it seems that the keyboard is misconfigured. I have a spanish
keyboard and, for example, if I type ":" I get an "Ñ", or pressing ")" I
get an "=".

I tried several clients (xtightvncviewer and xvnc4viewer) and I found the
same behavior on VirtualBox 3.2.4 (Lenny Backports) and VirtualBox
3.2.10 (Squeeze).


Has anyone experienced this behavior and was able to resolve in any way?


Thanks in advance.


Regards,
Daniel

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[Wheezy-KDE, linux-image-3.1.0] Kernel is ignoring /updates/ dir

[don]

I have always been in the understanding that Debian by default honors 
anything in the /updates/ dir over whats built with the kernel. This is 
how it has been for me until I recently decided to try to switch to 
Wheezy. Though after my upgrade and the new kernel it does not honor 
anything being built into that directory.


I am trying to get a bleeding-edge compat-wireless install going on 
Wheezy. I have always been able to build and not do anything but make && 
make install && reboot for compat-wireless and it worked, loading in 
compat. Doing the same thing with Kernel3.1 and then rebooting ignores 
that directory. So I figured I needed to run update-initframfs -u -k all 
it ran with no errors, so I rebooted and still pulling modules from the 
kernel, that are in the /updates/ dir. There is nothing different in the 
way it builds, no errors and even passes a script test in the install, 
that is suppose to verify that it will use that directory by default and 
passes it. Though what its checking for does not exist in Wheezy or 
Squeeze but did work with squeeze. I have even tried going the 
depmod.conf route with no luck. Seems like there is something I can not 
figure out forcing the compat module to not load by default. I have 
tried this on 3 different fresh installs, 2 upgrades with no success.


With this new Kernel how do you force it pull modules from updates 
before anything else? Is this even a Kernel or depmod issue? I have read 
others seem to be able to get it installed and I am not finding any 
other postings that pertain to this. If there is any logs/confs or 
outputs I can provide that would be of help please let me know and I 
will post them. Thanks for any and all help in figuring this out, I 
really don’t want to have to go back to the 2.6 Kernel as my laptop runs 
WAY better on the new Kernel other than this issue.


Thanks!



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Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies

[Walter Hurry]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:26:36 +0100, Piotr Wydymus wrote:

> At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday.

Please don't:

a) Top post
b) Post HTML

Thanks


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Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies

[Glenn English]

On Nov 28, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Piotr Wydymus wrote:

> At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday.

Hi, Piotr, and welcome.

> Sorry, but manpages are long, complicated and discouraging for newbies.

No, manpages aren't for newbies. But they aren't for oldbies either -- they're 
intended as reminders for when you already know what a command is for, but 
can't quite remember the correct syntax. They're great for that, but can be 
less than optimal for learning.

> It's definitely better to recommend some simple web guide first. What 
> develops curiosity in linux word is success IMO.

I've learned a lot from Martin Krafft's book, "The Debian System." It's not a 
website, and it's a little long in the tooth, but it has a lot of good info on 
the apt/dpkg/.deb collection (among other things). Apt doesn't seem to have 
changed significantly since the book was written.

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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Dom]

On 28/11/11 18:07, Camaleón wrote:

Hello,

I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little
problematic.

While running Midnight Commander to open (on-the-fly decompression for
browsing the archive) the kernel source package (a ~75 MiB .tar.bz2 file)
I got this error:

http://picpaste.com/mc-error-YXdyRawO.gif

My Atom based netbook is not a powerful system but has 2 GiB of ram and
250 hard disk so, what was happening?

"df -H" told me:

S.ficheros Tamaño Usado  Disp Uso% Montado en
/dev/sda2247G  7,7G  239G   4% /
tmpfs5,3M  4,1k  5,3M   1% /lib/init/rw
tmpfs212M  664k  211M   1% /run
tmpfs5,3M 0  5,3M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs423M  423M 0 100% /tmp <--- here!
udev 1,1G 0  1,1G   0% /dev
tmpfs423M  238k  423M   1% /run/shm

Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee
more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As the
current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit "unrealistic" (just %
20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:

1/ How many room should be set for a "/tmp" partition? I never had it one
so I can't make any good estimation.

2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for "/tmp"? This is how I've
been doing all these years.

Any comments are welcome :-)


I don't use tmpfs for /tmp for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, some of my PCs don't have much RAM (as low as 32MB), so it's 
just not practical, and on the others I sometimes store up to 4.7GB of 
files to put on DVDs.


I know that I could create tmpfs filesystems bigger than that and they 
would use swap when physical RAM is exceeded, but that would slow the 
systems down to an almost unusable level.


I'd rather either not have /tmp as a separate file system, or allocate 
at least 10GB to it. Disk is still cheaper than RAM, although slower.


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Bob Proulx]

Camaleón wrote:
> /dev/sda2247G  7,7G  239G   4% /
> tmpfs423M  423M 0 100% /tmp   <--- here!
>
> Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. ...

Especially when you have 250G of space it seems egregious to clamp it
down to only 423M.

> 1/ How many room should be set for a "/tmp" partition? I never had it one 
> so I can't make any good estimation.

It is so application space dependent that no one single answer can be
correct for everyone.

> 2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for "/tmp"? This is how I've 
> been doing all these years.

I have yet to find an acceptable tmpfs configuration that works for me
for use as /tmp.  I have tried but so far none of the options I have
tried have worked out well.

On my laptop I don't have a separate /tmp partition and simply share
space with the root filesystem so that all available space is
available to me.  I would do that for your netbook if I were using it.

On servers I always set up lvm and so set up an appropriately sized
partition just for /tmp.  However appropriately varies greatly
depending upon the machine and task.  Since it is lvm I can resize it
as needed to tune it for the machine and applications.

> Any comments are welcome :-)

If you want to read a *lot* of strong opinions you can browser through
this recent thread on debian-devel about it:

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/11/msg00281.html

Bob


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Re: [Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Jerome BENOIT]

On 28/11/11 19:07, Camaleón wrote:

Hello,

I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little
problematic.

While running Midnight Commander to open (on-the-fly decompression for
browsing the archive) the kernel source package (a ~75 MiB .tar.bz2 file)
I got this error:

http://picpaste.com/mc-error-YXdyRawO.gif

My Atom based netbook is not a powerful system but has 2 GiB of ram and
250 hard disk so, what was happening?

"df -H" told me:

S.ficheros Tamaño Usado  Disp Uso% Montado en
/dev/sda2247G  7,7G  239G   4% /
tmpfs5,3M  4,1k  5,3M   1% /lib/init/rw
tmpfs212M  664k  211M   1% /run
tmpfs5,3M 0  5,3M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs423M  423M 0 100% /tmp <--- here!
udev 1,1G 0  1,1G   0% /dev
tmpfs423M  238k  423M   1% /run/shm

Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee
more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As the
current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit "unrealistic" (just %
20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:

1/ How many room should be set for a "/tmp" partition? I never had it one
so I can't make any good estimation.


on my  laptop my /tmp partition is about 225 Mb:
1] most of the time it is empty (right now only 1% is used);
2] I have a huge /scratch partition that is used when the /tmp
is not big enough;
3] I guess that the relevant size depends on what kind of file is used on fly 
(read, uncompress, compress, write, ...).



2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for "/tmp"? This is how I've
been doing all these years.


I guess the /tmp mounted on a partition of /dev/sda is better idea than tmpfs 
one.
(having a sepated partion for /tmp is good idea.)



Any comments are welcome :-)


My 2 cents,
Jerome



Greetings,




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Re: Brightness after screensaver start - genome 3

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 08:56:32 -0200, Marcelo Luiz de Laia wrote:

> After a few time screensaver start and lock my notebook screen. When I
> unlosck it, I need to manually set the screen Brightness with Fn + Up
> arrow.
> 
> In gnome 2 the Brightness was setted automatically after unlock screen.
> 
> What I need to do to get my screen Brightness adjusted automatically
> after unlock screen?
> 
> I have a Dell Latitude D630 with Debian Testing.

It works fine for me when I manually force a screen lock (I have an intel 
card) but there is at least one report opened for Ubuntu for a similar 
issue:

LCD brightness NOT restored upon returning from screen lock in GNOME shell
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/883550

I would report it at Debian BTS.

Anyway, I also lose the last value I have set for the LCD brightness 
after I reboot the system.

> If I choose Fn + Left arrow keys I see a Brightness symbol with a
> prohibited symbol!

The brightness can be also defined from system configuration / screen.

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Re: .deb / dpkg for dummies

[Piotr Wydymus]

At first, hello everyone - I subscribed yesterday.

You know, every time since the beginning of my adventure with linux (about
1998) I get this message "try man *". it's pointless you know? Every man
who is familiar with linux is aware that there is something like manpages
there.

When someone ask for a tip then he is awaiting for a tip and not sentence
which means in simply words - "You're stupid, and you've got lice on your
navel."

In other words. I would like to read something simplified first, see some
effects which can make me a _hero_ in my own eyes and _then_ go deeper (man
pages in this case).

Sorry, but manpages are long, complicated and discouraging for newbies.

It's definitely better to recommend some simple web guide first. What
develops curiosity in linux word is success IMO.

Anyway.. "Check manpage" is like "check google". When we're looking for
answer, we can find only thousands of "check google" answers in google.
That's the effect.

No offence. That's only my opinion and I think it's like "fight with
windmills" anyway. :)


On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Alex Mestiashvili <
a...@biotec.tu-dresden.de> wrote:

> On 11/27/2011 07:53 PM, Rogelio wrote:
> > Is there a good overview on how to really use these tools?
> >
> > I simply copy/paste commands all the time, and I'm hoping for some
> > sort of primer or tutorial that helps be able to do this from scratch
> > without a cheat sheet.
> >
> >
> Hi ,
>
> I think the simplest way to learn something is to look up a man page
> each time something isn't clear .
> The documentation is already on your system - man dpkg .
> Have a nice day ,
> Alex
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[Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp

[Camaleón]

Hello,

I'm running an updated wheezy and today faced with this little 
problematic.

While running Midnight Commander to open (on-the-fly decompression for 
browsing the archive) the kernel source package (a ~75 MiB .tar.bz2 file) 
I got this error:

http://picpaste.com/mc-error-YXdyRawO.gif

My Atom based netbook is not a powerful system but has 2 GiB of ram and 
250 hard disk so, what was happening?

"df -H" told me:

S.ficheros Tamaño Usado  Disp Uso% Montado en
/dev/sda2247G  7,7G  239G   4% /
tmpfs5,3M  4,1k  5,3M   1% /lib/init/rw
tmpfs212M  664k  211M   1% /run
tmpfs5,3M 0  5,3M   0% /run/lock
tmpfs423M  423M 0 100% /tmp <--- here!
udev 1,1G 0  1,1G   0% /dev
tmpfs423M  238k  423M   1% /run/shm

Okay, so /tmp is full. Fine. I know how to solve it but I can foresee 
more situations like this in the future so some questions arise. As the 
current tmpfs default settings for /tmp seem a bit "unrealistic" (just %
20 of the RAM?) for even doing common tasks:

1/ How many room should be set for a "/tmp" partition? I never had it one 
so I can't make any good estimation.

2/ Would be better to simply disable tmpfs for "/tmp"? This is how I've 
been doing all these years.

Any comments are welcome :-)

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Laptop doesn't sleep when lid is closed (Xfce).

[Paul Isambert]

Hello,

I've set xfce4-power-manager to sleep when the lid is closed, no matter 
whether I'm on AC or battery. The problem is that it doesn't work.
Strangely, though, if I close the lid when on AC (resp. battery), reopen 
it and go on battery (resp. AC), the computer goes to sleep, and 
restarts immediately since the lid is open.


I've removed gnome-power-manager, but to no avail.

Any idea?

Best,
Paul

Re: Full Disk Encryption

[Bob Proulx]

Rick Thomas wrote:
> Another point about using a separate swap vs including swap on the
> encrypted LVM:  On a server,  the LVM will almost certainly be on a
> RAID.  There's no point in putting swap on RAID.

Strongly disagree.  The point of raid is to keep the machine running
in spite of a disk failure.  If you don't put swap on raid then a disk
failure of your swap disk will crash your system.  By putting swap on
raid the system keeps running.

Bob


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Re: inconsistency in results using Ctrl+F in libreoffice across 2 Debian boxes

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:54:54 +, AG wrote:

> On 28/11/11 16:37, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:58:06 +, AG wrote:
>>
>>> I have two machines, both running Debian stable (squeeze) and on both
>>> I jettisoned OpenOffice.org in favor of LibreOffice.
>>>
>>> On one machine (box A) in Writer or in Calc I can use the keyboard
>>> commands Ctrl+F or Ctrl+Alt+F to "find" and "find and replace"
>>> respectively.  On Box B however, these keyboard commands don't work -
>>> instead the file drop down menu is activated.
>>>
>>> Aside from the actual hardware inside the boxes, the installation was
>>> the same, the updates were the same, etc. so how do I begin debugging
>>> this?
>>
>>
> Hi Camaleón
> 
>> If that makes no difference, review your DE keyword shorcuts to check
>> if there is another application which is already using that keyword
>> combination.
> 
> Do the DE short cuts get priority over application short cuts?  Can this
> ordering be changed?

(...)

Hum... this is documented under "Shortcut Keys" at:

http://www.libreoffice.org/welcome/readme.html

***
Shortcut Keys

Only shortcut keys (key combinations) not used by the operating system 
can be used in LibreOffice. If a key combination in LibreOffice does not 
work as described in the LibreOffice Help, check if that shortcut is 
already used by the operating system. To rectify such conflicts, you can 
change the keys assigned by your operating system. Alternatively, you can 
change almost any key assignment in LibreOffice. For more information on 
this topic, refer to the LibreOffice Help or the Help documention of your 
operating system.

The application help of LibreOffice may use shortcut combinations for PC 
keyboards only.
***

THT :-)

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Re: inconsistency in results using Ctrl+F in libreoffice across 2 Debian boxes

[AG]

On 28/11/11 16:37, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:58:06 +, AG wrote:


I have two machines, both running Debian stable (squeeze) and on both I
jettisoned OpenOffice.org in favor of LibreOffice.

On one machine (box A) in Writer or in Calc I can use the keyboard
commands Ctrl+F or Ctrl+Alt+F to "find" and "find and replace"
respectively.  On Box B however, these keyboard commands don't work -
instead the file drop down menu is activated.

Aside from the actual hardware inside the boxes, the installation was
the same, the updates were the same, etc. so how do I begin debugging
this?




Hi Camaleón


If that makes no difference, review your DE keyword shorcuts to check if
there is another application which is already using that keyword
combination.


Do the DE short cuts get priority over application short cuts?  Can this 
ordering be changed?


I'm using Gnome 2.

AG


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Re: Full Disk Encryption

[Rick Thomas]

On Nov 28, 2011, at 8:48 AM, J. Bakshi wrote:


On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:15:59 + (UTC)
Virgo Pärna  wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas  
 wrote:


Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you
should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately -- with a
*random* key.



   I think, that this would not work, if one wants to use  
hibernation. And

that could be case on laptop.



Good point I am already using both suspend and hibernation and  
expect the

same after disk FDE. Thanks for pointing 


Yes... That's something I hadn't thought about.  I've only used it for  
an "always-on" server.


Another point about using a separate swap vs including swap on the  
encrypted LVM:  On a server,  the LVM will almost certainly be on a  
RAID.  There's no point in putting swap on RAID.


Rick


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Re: inconsistency in results using Ctrl+F in libreoffice across 2 Debian boxes

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:58:06 +, AG wrote:

> I have two machines, both running Debian stable (squeeze) and on both I
> jettisoned OpenOffice.org in favor of LibreOffice.
> 
> On one machine (box A) in Writer or in Calc I can use the keyboard
> commands Ctrl+F or Ctrl+Alt+F to "find" and "find and replace"
> respectively.  On Box B however, these keyboard commands don't work -
> instead the file drop down menu is activated.
> 
> Aside from the actual hardware inside the boxes, the installation was
> the same, the updates were the same, etc. so how do I begin debugging
> this?

I would start by renaming the LO user's profile for the user where the 
key combos are not working to discard that something has not been messed 
up.

If that makes no difference, review your DE keyword shorcuts to check if 
there is another application which is already using that keyword 
combination.

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upnp client on wheezy

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

Hi,

Anyone got upnp share browsing working on wheezy? I can't find coherence
plugin for totem on wheezy and upnp discovery on vlc only shows media but
cannot browse its shared files.

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Re: Passwordless root shell is offered when boot problem occurs.

[Arno Schuring]

Sthu Deus (sthu.d...@gmail.com on 2011-11-28 13:47 +0700):
> Once mount error occurs while OS booting, I get root shell - w/o even
> asking for password... How I can change the behavior (to ask for
> password before granting root shell)?
> 

Do you get a message 'root account locked, starting shell?'

fsck errors should drop into a sulogin shell, which asks for the
password. The only way you could get a root shell is if your root
device cannot be found. In that case, there is no way to ask for a
password because there is no password file.

If you must, there might be a way to get what you want by adding files
to the initramfs by dropping a file in /etc/initramfs-tools/hooks/ or
the like. But if you find yourself needing to secure against that, then
you must also set a bootloader password, lock out alternative boot
methods, set a BIOS password and put your machine behind lock and key.
Do you really need that?


Regards,
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Re: Password Management ?

[Chris Brennan]

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Stephen Allen
 wrote:

> LastPass is online and KeePass is offline. Honestly, I would trust KeePass
>  > over LastPass.
>
> 
>

I don't understand your response here? Is there a point to your shrugging
at
the difference between LastPass and KeePass?


> Not true; One has the ability to export their data at any time, now.
>

Actually it is true, because the terms of their service can change at any
time.
And without notice, which is their right to do so, as long as they are a
business,
incorporated in the United States. Just because you can export your data
from
them for free now, doesn't mean you can't in the future.


> Anything can change at anytime including an OSS project.
>

True, but as long as I have a currently free copy of that OSS Project,
then it remains free if I don't upgrade to the newer (and conceivably
changed)
paid-for product.

Stephen, my goal here was not to split hairs with you but to illustrate the
differences between LastPass and KeePass at a cursory level for the OP,
who expressed not understanding the difference between the two.

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> >>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
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XDMCP and GDM3

[Martin Feuersänger]

Hi list,

a while ago we played a bit with XDMCP at the local LUG gathering here in
Frankfurt, Germany.

One machine was running KDE 4.6.5 (sid) and the other Gnome 3 (squeeze).

We managed to get a Chooser on each machine from the respective other
machine by issuing
X :1 -broadcast -indirect 
Each time the Chooser offered both machines.

Now to my question.

I know which files control the KDM behavior in regard to XDMCP (kdmrc and
Xaccess, both in /etc/kde4/kdm/).
But for GDM3 I have no idea where this is done. It just worked. Xaccess at
/etc/X11/xdm/ had no influence so it must be somewhere else.

But where?

Any clues?

Thanks,
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Re: (need help) Test 000-978: Power Systems with POWER7 and IBM i Sales Skills - v1

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:29:58 +0100
Oussama Benrhouma  wrote:

> *Hi,*
> 
> *I need answers to the questions below please:*
> 
The answer, IIANM, is to study and then you'll be able to do your own
homework.

Does the Debian user list typically get 'do my homework' questions?

If so, hopefully they aren't answered.  If they are answered then I fear
for the future of IT.

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(need help) Test 000-978: Power Systems with POWER7 and IBM i Sales Skills - v1

[Oussama Benrhouma]

*Hi,*

*I need answers to the questions below please:*



* *

*1) A Power 720 Customer with IBM i 6.1 and 8 disk units has limited time
to load and apply RTFs. Which capability will minimize the preparation and
installation time?*



A) Load the RTFs directly from a tape image while applying the RTFs

B) Load the RTFs into an image catalog prior to updating the system

C) Use system Director to automatically load RTFs at a predetermined
Time

D) Install the RTFs directly from the web on the system during normal
hours and IPL layer.





*2) For IBM i Power 7 prospects, what is an advantage of the i Edition
Express for Blade Center S ?*



A) A solution in which IBM preloads AIX, LINUX and IBM i for Power 7
blade in the BCS chassis

B) A solution in which IBM preloads the OS for both Intel and Power7

C) A preconfigured preloaded solution with storage networking and SM
feature

D) A preconfigured preloaded solution that combines a BCS chassis, a
Power7 Blade, and IBM i, bundled at a competitive entry-level price



*3) A sales representative has a client with a Power 5 520 at VTR3.Who
believe IBM is moving away*



A) Development plan for future products

B) Statement of direction with dates for future releases

C) IBM i release marketing availability and support matrices

D) Strategic time line of IBM i version and technology refreshes.



*4) Which statement defines optimization for IBM i on Power7 ?*



A) Power7 solutions contain a Multi-core chip design with large L3
cache that enables the fastest throughput, highest TPC rating

B) IBM i can run a wide variety of workloads including databases,
virtualized application servers, or conventional commercial application.

C) Power7 solutions can run up to 10 virtual machines per processor
core and allocate processor, memory, and I/O resources between partitions.

D) IBM i offer a balanced design, automatic performance management
workload balancing, storage management, and enables effective utilization
of system resources.



*5) A company using a competitive system frequently misses deadlines when
applying operating system maintenance updates to support database, security
and backup software, and needs a solution for this issue,*

*Why should the company use IBM i on Power Systems?*



   A) IBM i permits concurrent application of some operating system fixes
reducing the need for planned system outages.

   B) The built-in DB2 relational database supports seamless software
updates for IBM i database, security and backup.

   C) The IBM i Entitled software support website supports direct downloads
of software maintenance updates in a concurrent background operation.

   D) Backup and Recovery Management Software (BRMS) is integrated within
IBM i allowing for faster software maintenance updates while system backups
are performed.



*6) What is the definition of single-level storage in IBM i ??*



A) Memory and disks are addressed in the some way

B) Frequently referenced objects are kept in L3 cache for rapid access

C) The Address of objects is maintained in load source for easy
retrieval

D) Pages of an object are loaded onto a single drive in order to access
it faster.





*7)  A prospective customers who is comparing IBM i on a Power 740 server
to windows based servers is very concerned about system reliability. Which
statement adresses this concern ?*



   A) Hot-Swappable I/O adapters in power systems servers offer superior
resiliency when compared to Windows based servers.

   B) IBM i is tightly integrated into Power systems Hardware which
contributes to overall system reliability and availability.

   C) the technology Machine independent Interface (TIMI) within IBM i
provider error management and automatic Hardware soft healing capabilities.

   D) The Power VM hypervisor in IBM i detects errors and isolates the
failing hardware components before they can affect server system operations.





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Re: no connections tab in network admin

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 5:04 PM, Miles Fidelman
 wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> My son runs Debian (Squeeze) on a relatively ancient Gateway Laptop - and
> all was copacetic until he did a recent apt-get update/upgrade/autoremove.
>
> Suddenly:
> - wireless isn't working
> - the network-admin tool does not show a "connections" tab
> - iwconfig shows "no wireless extensions"
>
> Any suggestions on where to start?

If this breakage happened this past Friday, and your son has
squeeze-updates enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list, the issue may be
caused by the new kernel that was pushed out.  Did wi-fi work out of
the box previously or are you using ndiswrapper?

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GStreamer or PulseAudio causing stuttering playback

[Shaun]

Hi all,

When streaming using the AirPlay protocol to my AirPort Express using
the pulseaudio-module-raop I get quite stuttered playback.  This happens
playing an mp3 in RhythmBox or Banshee.  Both of these applications use
GStreamer.  The system itself doesn't appear to be under any noticeable
load according to top/uptime.  Websites (YouTube et al) all seem to be
able to stream via PulseAudio just fine using the in-browser ALSA plugin
so it doesn't appear to be a problem with pulseaudio-module-raop module.

How do I debug what it is so I can determine whether I need to send a
bug report or if it's a setup issue.

Many thanks!


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Re: Passwordless root shell is offered when boot problem occurs.

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:47:59 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Once mount error occurs while OS booting, I get root shell - w/o even
> asking for password... 

You mean "Busybox"? :-?

> How I can change the behavior (to ask for password before granting root
> shell)?

If you refer to busybox, AFAIK is not a pure root's shell but a self-
contained, separated and limited environment to run some diagnostic tools 
within your machine so you can easily recover the system when something 
is broken.

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Re: XFCE - Desktop Problems

[Lorenzo Sutton]

Hi,

On 28/11/11 15:42, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Dear list -

I just upgraded my sid distribution.

Now - I can't -- 1] move, maximize or minimize windows. 2] close open
windows so I can see the desktop.


Try to run xfwm4 command (ALT + F2 and then type it in)

Also make sure this starts when you start the session.

3] see the window list.

You have to add it to the panel. In XFCE it's called "Window Buttons"

Lorenzo.


HELP, ASAP

Thanks.

Ethan Rosenberg

Debian 6.0.1a squeeze(sid)





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Re: why does mplayer sound bad and flashplugin-nonfree sound good?

[Javier Barroso]

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:18:37 +0800, jidanni wrote:
>
>>> "C" == Camaleón   writes:
>> C> What happens when ypu open the file with another media player? It
>> sounds great! OK I filed
>> http://bugzilla.mplayerhq.hu/show_bug.cgi?id=2019
>
> Wow, that was a fast bug report! :-)
>
> Maybe Mplayer has an option (aka: parameter) you can use to get a better
> sound quality for a specific audio/video format/codec, depending on the
> file you want to play :-?
In my mplayer installation that file sounds ok, so maybe related to
sound card issue ?

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Re: Graphics corruption with Radeon X1270 (RS690M)

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:50:52 -0500, Carl wrote in message 
<2028075052.ga13...@panix.com>:

> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 02:01:15AM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> 
> > ..run 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and pick or verify you have picked
> > all your relevant UTF-8 locales, you may want to toss out your
> > "ISO-8859-*" locales.  Next, run aptitude and trawl 'n haul in 
> > "all" UTF-8 fonts, and make those your apps, wm, DE etc defaults.

..duh, "man xrefresh" should give you another set of fix ideas.

> The only installed locale is en-us.UTF-8.
> 
> I have no earthly use for any of the ISO-8859 fonts shown by
> aptitude--they're for languages I do not use.
> 
> > ..and 'xrandr --verbose' says?
> 
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 8192 x 8192
> VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> Identifier: 0x41
> Timestamp:  22915
> Subpixel:   no subpixels
> Clones:
> CRTCs:  0 1
> Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
> 0.00 1.00 0.00
> 0.00 0.00 1.00
>filter: 
> load detection: 1 (0x0001)  range:  (0,1)
> LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (0x43) normal (normal left inverted right
> x axis y axis) 256mm x 144mm
> Identifier: 0x42
> Timestamp:  22915
> Subpixel:   horizontal rgb
> Gamma:  1.0:1.0:1.0
> Brightness: 1.0
> Clones:
> CRTC:   0
> CRTCs:  0 1
> Transform:  1.00 0.00 0.00
> 0.00 1.00 0.00
> 0.00 0.00 1.00
>filter: 
> EDID:
> 00000daf0011
> 0913010380190e780acf459059579529
> 1f50540001010101010101010101
> 0101010101019c19562a5830070e
> 1390101800fe004e3131
> 3642362d4c30320a202000fe0043
> 4d4f0a20202020202020202000fe
> 004e31313642362d4c30320a20200065
> scaling mode:   Full
> supported: None Full Center
> Full aspect 1366x768 (0x43)   65.6MHz -HSync -VSync *current
> +preferred h: width  1366 start 1373 end 1387 total 1408 skew0
> clock   46.6KHz v: height  768 start  769 end  772 total
> 776   clock   60.0Hz 

..ok, try one of the resolutions below and see if one of those 
fixes the "overwriting", if that works, you should be able to 
make a slightly slower 1366x768 modeline work, backing off to 
say 46.5kHz and 59.9Hz or some such.  

..do you have grandr installed?  The cli way:
http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12

..to make new 1366x768 modelines the _old_ way, install videogen
and have fun tweaking your new modelines. ;o)

..dirty search line: 'apt-cache search --full modelines |less'

> 1280x720 (0x44)   74.5MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width  1280 start 1344 end 1472 total 1664 skew0
> clock   44.8KHz v: height  720 start  723 end  728 total
> 748   clock   59.9Hz 1152x768 (0x45)   71.8MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width  1152 start 1216 end 1328 total 1504 skew0
> clock   47.7KHz v: height  768 start  771 end  781 total
> 798   clock   59.8Hz 1024x768 (0x46)   63.5MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width  1024 start 1072 end 1176 total 1328 skew0
> clock   47.8KHz v: height  768 start  771 end  775 total
> 798   clock   59.9Hz 800x600 (0x47)   38.2MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width   800 start  832 end  912 total 1024 skew0
> clock   37.4KHz v: height  600 start  603 end  607 total
> 624   clock   59.9Hz 848x480 (0x48)   31.5MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width   848 start  872 end  952 total 1056 skew0
> clock   29.8KHz v: height  480 start  483 end  493 total
> 500   clock   59.7Hz 720x480 (0x49)   26.8MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width   720 start  744 end  808 total  896 skew0
> clock   29.9KHz v: height  480 start  483 end  493 total
> 500   clock   59.7Hz 640x480 (0x4a)   23.8MHz -HSync +VSync
> h: width   640 start  664 end  720 total  800 skew0
> clock   29.7KHz v: height  480 start  483 end  487 total
> 500   clock   59.4Hz


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Re: gksu: Couldn't set environment variable...

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:05:10 +0700, Sthu Deus wrote:

> Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón:
> 
>>> For a new user it works too, but for the old one - all work except
>>> these two. I have searched through dir.s and files that were created
>>> for the new user (its home dir. was empty and did remove the
>>> appropriate dir.s in the home dir. of the problematic user - did not
>>> solve the problem.
>>> 
>>> The dir.s were, IIRC:
>>> 
>>> .dbus
>>> .gconf
>>> .gconfd
>>> 
>>> Any other dir/file suggestion?
>>
>>You can try to reboot. Strange things can happen when gnome is updated
>>and some files are still in use.
> 
> Done. Nothing changed. :(

That's bad ;-(

Try adding the "debug" parameter:

gksu -d chromium
gksu -d qbittorrent
>>> 
>>> $ /usr/bin/gksu -d -u usrname /usr/bin/chromium
>>
>>May I ask why are you giving the full path to both binaries? :-?
> 
> Of course You can! :)
> 
> I do this to escape a situation when another copy of the program is run
> instead of the intended one. In being hacked it may help to run not the
> unwanted code.

Oh... and what if a malware replaces the same file from the same place 
and puts the faked one there? You won't neither notice >>;-)

>>Also, try to run gksu as root user.
>>
>>(...)
> 
> Why? I can do that successfully even under normal, new user.

Why not? We are just making tests to get more clues.

>>> [23477:23477:49752580053:FATAL:browser_main.cc(1362)] Check failed:
>>> PathService::Get(chrome::DIR_USER_DATA, &user_data_dir). Must be able
>>> to get user data directory! Aborted
>>
>>(...)
>>
>>> $ /usr/bin/gksu -d -u usrname /usr/bin/qbittorrent
>>(..)
>>> buf: -gksu: waiting Couldn't set environment variable...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So, both can not get  access to the required user's environment - for
>>> some reason.
>>
>>Let's see what are the perms of the user "~/.config" directory:
>>
>>ls -la | grep config
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> drwx-- 11 uname  uname   1024 Nov 25 00:33 .config

Interesting...

Mine is set to "drwxr-xr-r" and owner/group is my user. Check out the 
perms of this folder for the user where it works and them compare.

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Re: why does mplayer sound bad and flashplugin-nonfree sound good?

[Camaleón]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:18:37 +0800, jidanni wrote:

>> "C" == Camaleón   writes:
> C> What happens when ypu open the file with another media player? It
> sounds great! OK I filed
> http://bugzilla.mplayerhq.hu/show_bug.cgi?id=2019

Wow, that was a fast bug report! :-)

Maybe Mplayer has an option (aka: parameter) you can use to get a better 
sound quality for a specific audio/video format/codec, depending on the 
file you want to play :-?

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Re: Nautilus 3.2.1 and file associations

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 19:58:37 +, Walter Hurry wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:22:51 +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:43:15 +, Alan Chandler wrote:
>> 
>>> On 26/11/11 21:18, Camaleón wrote:
>>> 
 Anyway, try this:

 http://askubuntu.com/questions/82652/file-association-to-unlisted-application

 It basically says that you have to append a trailing "%U" at
 "/usr/share/ applications/freemind.deskop" file, at the "Exec"
 stanza, that is:

 ***
 Exec=/usr/bin/freemind %U ***

 Now the application should be listed at the "Open with..." menu so
 you can now set it as the default for that kind of file types.


>>> Actually it is incomplete - you need to also (or maybe only) edit the
>>> setting in ~/.local/share/applications/freemind.desktop
>> 
>> Hum... It worked for me by just editing the suggested file (and I even
>> don't have Freemind installed at all).
> 
> 
> That's because the .desktop file in ~/.local will override the default
> in /usr

Sure, that's why the proposed solution it simply works (the 
"~/.local/share/applications/freemind.desktop" does not exist unless the 
user had tried to do the file association before and by doing so the local 
file is generated).

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XFCE - Desktop Problems

[Ethan Rosenberg]

Dear list -

I just upgraded my sid distribution.

Now - I can't -- 1] move, maximize or minimize windows. 2] close open 
windows so I can see the desktop. 3] see the window list.


HELP, ASAP

Thanks.

Ethan Rosenberg

Debian 6.0.1a  squeeze(sid) 




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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:52:52 +
Richard  wrote:

> I was unhappy with Gnome 3 at start, but after giving it a chance
> I've grown to like it. for instance, ALT Tab to move between desktop
> is a nice feature, its less hand movement than grabbing the mouse to
> click on a window. And its not a two handed operation as you scroll
> thru all the open windows, by just clicking tab while the ALT key is
> down.

Not a GNOME3 innovation, this has long been the standard on Windows
(since Windows 1.0) /and/ Unix-like systems.

You just did't notice it before.


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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:29:10 -0900, Greg Madden wrote:

> On Sunday 27 November 2011 8:29:19 am Camaleón wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 11:04:24 +, Cam Hutchison wrote:
>> > I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now
>> > tried xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome
>> > components.
>> >
>> > I don't like any of it.
>> >
>> > What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
>> > wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.
>> >
>> > Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've
>> > been using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.
>> >
>> > Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
>> > available? Can I build my own packages?
>>
>> Nowadays, there is no way to get GNOME2 back as it was.
>>
>> No way, but not just for Debian but any other linux distributions (the
>> last release of OpenBSD featured GNOME 2.32.2, though). Anyway, more
>> sooner than later GNOME2 will be completely dropped from upstream.
>>
>>
> There is always Squeeze, aka Debian stable.

Yes, which will last... ¿a year and a half? 

Sure, it will cure your current pains and pitfalls but I don't think 
that's a long-term solution.

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Re: Full Disk Encryption

[J. Bakshi]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 13:15:59 + (UTC)
Virgo Pärna  wrote:

> On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas  wrote:
> >
> > Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you  
> > should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately -- with a  
> > *random* key.
> >
> 
> I think, that this would not work, if one wants to use hibernation. And 
> that could be case on laptop.
> 

Good point I am already using both suspend and hibernation and expect the
same after disk FDE. Thanks for pointing 


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Re: Full Disk Encryption

[Virgo Pärna]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:59:34 -0500, Rick Thomas  wrote:
>
> Unless you are concerned about growing swap at some later date, you  
> should leave swap out of the LVM and encrypt it separately -- with a  
> *random* key.
>

I think, that this would not work, if one wants to use hibernation. And 
that could be case on laptop.

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Upload php high Cpu

[Olivier BATARD]

Hi,

I have an issue with the tool openupload, which is a php tool to
upload files http://openupload.sourceforge.net/.

My apache server is on a wheezy, which is hosted on a vserver (fs
reiserfs) inside a squeeze, which is also hosted on vmware esx which
has on core and 2 go of ram.

Each times I upload a file, the apache process take 99% of the cpu,
nothing particular in the apache logs, even in debug.

I tried with squeeze and wheezy but no luck, same result with apache
2.2.16 and 2.2.21.

So I went to php.ini and verify the points :

max_execution_time = 60
max_input_time = 60
memory_limit = 128M

I've been in contact with the developers, no clue.

Anyone can help us on this ?

Thanks,

Olivier


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Re: SATA disc spindown

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 16:55:06 +0100, Lou wrote:

> Please check the wdc link [1] I gave you again, WD20EARS is on the list.
> The wiki article can't keep up all the time with newer green series
> coming out.

Ups, my fault.
Thank you very much!


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Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

[Paul Isambert]

Le 28/11/2011 12:08, Lorenzo Sutton a écrit :

Hi,

On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:

Thank you Roman.

Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
in the settings. Any idea?


I also came across this trying to use Inkscape. The CTRL + Fn key 
shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are 
defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab


It does, as did Roman's last mail, which unfortunately I've missed 
because I was migrating Thunderbird. In the meanwhile, I've found a 
solution using xfconf, but the window manager is much simpler.


Thanks both,
Paul


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Re: Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze

[Stephen Powell]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 00:21:53 -0500 (EST), Marc Shapiro wrote:
> On 11/27/11 15:10, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> Since your permanent root file system is not a logical volume, chances are
>> there is no LVM stuff in your initial RAM file system.  Therefore, it is
>> trying to access the SUSPEND/RESUME device before it is available.
>> I don't recommend using a logical volume as a swap device anyway.
>> It adds too much overhead.  The swap device should be the highest performance
>> device you have, in most cases.  I recommend that you change your swap file
>> to a regular disk partition in /etc/fstab.  Also make sure that the "pass"
>> variable for the swap device is set to zero, as you did for the mountable
>> devices.  Also change the specification of the SUSPEND/RESUME device in
>> /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume.  Then run
>>
>> update-initramfs -uk $(uname -r)
> 
> 
> I have no such file on my system.  In fact,
> 
>  /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/
> 
> is an completely empty directory.

On my system, there are two files in this directory, "resume"
and "driver-policy".  The "resume" file contains:

   RESUME=UUID=a6948969-2d88-4ec0-93a1-6d2d803ff8b3

which specifies the UUID of the SUSPEND/RESUME device.  It matches the
UUID of the swap device specified in /etc/fstab.  The "driver-policy"
file contains:

   # Driver inclusion policy selected during installation
   # Note: this setting overrides the value set in the file
   # /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf
   MODULES=dep

In both cases I have indented for readability, but the file itself starts
in column 1.  The default value during installation is "MODULES=most",
but when I installed Squeeze, I selected "MODULES=dep" to make my initial
RAM file system smaller.
> 
> Presumably I should create the file 
> and include a specification for the SUSPEND/RESUME device.  Is there a 
> man page, or help file, that tells how to do this?

   man initramfs-tools

will give some information.
> 
> Since my swap partition is smaller than my RAM, however, trying to write 
> all of memory to the swap partition is likely to be less than totally 
> successful, anyway.

The general rule of thumb is that the swap partition should be at least
twice as large as the amount of installed memory.  The SUSPEND file will
probably be allocated during initialization, though it will be empty,
leaving the rest of the swap space for ordinary swapping.  Of course, you
can have more than one swap partition specified in /etc/fstab, but the
one specified in /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume needs to be at least
as large as the amount of installed memory.  Since yours is not big enough,
that may explain why a resume file was not created.  And if a driver-policy
file does not exist, the default value for the MODULES variable will be
taken from /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf.

> Can it be turned off?  This is a desktop box.  It 
> is always plugged in and I do not put the box to sleep.  Why would I 
> need a SUSPEND/RESUME device?

Even desktop boxes typically have power management features these days.
This was originally designed for use in laptops, where power conservation
when running on batteries is very important.  But desktop systems often
have these features too these days, not to conserve battery life, but to
save money on electricity.  But according to the man page referenced above,
the "noresume" kernel boot parameter can be used to override this behavior.
You would specify it the same way that you specified the "rootdelay" option:
by including it in the "append" configuration variable in /etc/lilo.conf,
then re-running lilo.

> 
> Is this something new with Squeeze?  I never had this issue with Lenny?

In could be new with the version of initramfs-tools that comes with Squeeze.
I've never had problems with it before; so I don't know.

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Fwd: installer fails to configure DHCP

[Francesco Pietra]

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From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: installer fails to configure DHCP
To: Vasileios Karaklioumis 


The router works fine with the computer I was referring to and with
all other computers. It is the same that in the past let the
installers work.
fp

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Vasileios Karaklioumis
 wrote:
> Same happens to me in both archs.I suspect is the routers' fault.
>
> On Nov 28, 2011 11:24 AM, "Goswin von Brederlow"  wrote:
>>
>> Francesco Pietra  writes:
>>
>> > Installer debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso downloaded Nov27 2011 fails
>>
>> And why would the AMD64 list be interested in failures of I386?
>>
>> MfG
>>        Goswin
>>
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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

[AG]

On 28/11/11 10:52, Richard wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:03:40 +
AG  wrote:


On 27/11/11 11:04, Cam Hutchison wrote:

I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried
xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components.

I don't like any of it.

What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.

Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been
using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.

Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
available? Can I build my own packages?




There seems to be a lot of this negative reaction to Gnome3 and this
leads me to not want to upgrade my Debian stable (squeeze) at all.  This
is the same trip that the KDE developers went down as well, which
spawned an official fork which retained the original KDE3.*

One can but hope that the GNOME developers will listen to their user
base and offer an alternative or some kind developer will start a forked
version of Gnome2 to retain the version that those who are reacting
negatively to Gnome3 have come to know, love and trust.

Either that, or users will engage in a mass exodus to LXDE or Xfce4
which would be a real shame.

AG



Hi
I was unhappy with Gnome 3 at start, but after giving it a chance I've grown to 
like it.
for instance, ALT Tab to move between desktop is a nice feature, its less hand 
movement than grabbing
the mouse to click on a window.


I can use Alt+Tab to scroll through application windows using Gnome2 
already.  In fact, one can set up a range of these kinds of options by 
modifying the keyboard shortcuts under System> Preferences



And its not a two handed operation as you scroll thru all the open
windows, by just clicking tab while the ALT key is down.
Great for me as although I'm RH I use a LH mouse.
Once the menu editing is sorted it will be a lot better than gnome2.

Thats my opinion now.




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Re: Booting into DOS

[Brian]

On Sun 27 Nov 2011 at 23:06:29 -0500, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

> My hard drive has Linux and DOS partitions.  If I try to boot into DOS 
> from the start-up screen I receive the messages: "no argument specified" 
> adn "no such partition". How do i fix this.

Please post the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg and the list of files in
/etc/grub.d.


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Re: Xfce steals keyboard shortcuts?

[Lorenzo Sutton]

Hi,

On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:

Thank you Roman.

Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
in the settings. Any idea?


I also came across this trying to use Inkscape. The CTRL + Fn key 
shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are 
defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab


Hope this helps,
Lorenzo.


Paul

On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:

Hi,

Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with
F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings ->
keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.

Regards
-
Roman

On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert mailto:zappathus...@free.fr>> wrote:

Hello,

I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to
Ctrl-F12 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to
be executed for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an
app in Xfce, and that's what happens in gVim too.

So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?

Best,
Paul


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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

[Richard]

On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:03:40 +
AG  wrote:

> On 27/11/11 11:04, Cam Hutchison wrote:
> > I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried
> > xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components.
> >
> > I don't like any of it.
> >
> > What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
> > wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.
> >
> > Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been
> > using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.
> >
> > Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
> > available? Can I build my own packages?
> >
> >
> >
> 
> There seems to be a lot of this negative reaction to Gnome3 and this 
> leads me to not want to upgrade my Debian stable (squeeze) at all.  This 
> is the same trip that the KDE developers went down as well, which 
> spawned an official fork which retained the original KDE3.*
> 
> One can but hope that the GNOME developers will listen to their user 
> base and offer an alternative or some kind developer will start a forked 
> version of Gnome2 to retain the version that those who are reacting 
> negatively to Gnome3 have come to know, love and trust.
> 
> Either that, or users will engage in a mass exodus to LXDE or Xfce4 
> which would be a real shame.
> 
> AG
> 
> 

Hi
I was unhappy with Gnome 3 at start, but after giving it a chance I've grown to 
like it.
for instance, ALT Tab to move between desktop is a nice feature, its less hand 
movement than grabbing
the mouse to click on a window. And its not a two handed operation as you 
scroll thru all the open
windows, by just clicking tab while the ALT key is down.
Great for me as although I'm RH I use a LH mouse.
Once the menu editing is sorted it will be a lot better than gnome2.

Thats my opinion now.

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##
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udev & ruled.d

[Richard]

Hi
For ages on bootup there has been the message about udev rules being replaced 
by device attributes,
Has this happened in Wheezy, as a rule I've entered is getting disliked.
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Re: How can I get GNOME 2 back

[AG]

On 27/11/11 11:04, Cam Hutchison wrote:

I have tried GNOME 3. I have tried it with fallback mode. I've now tried
xfce, kde and my own hacked together xsession with gnome components.

I don't like any of it.

What I like is the setup I had. I had GNOME 2 set up just the way I
wanted it, and there was nothing wrong with it.

Is there any way to get this back, while still using Debian? I've been
using Debian (sid) a long time and I'm not changing distros.

Are the debian patches for the last of the GNOME 2 releases still
available? Can I build my own packages?





There seems to be a lot of this negative reaction to Gnome3 and this 
leads me to not want to upgrade my Debian stable (squeeze) at all.  This 
is the same trip that the KDE developers went down as well, which 
spawned an official fork which retained the original KDE3.*


One can but hope that the GNOME developers will listen to their user 
base and offer an alternative or some kind developer will start a forked 
version of Gnome2 to retain the version that those who are reacting 
negatively to Gnome3 have come to know, love and trust.


Either that, or users will engage in a mass exodus to LXDE or Xfce4 
which would be a real shame.


AG


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inconsistency in results using Ctrl+F in libreoffice across 2 Debian boxes

[AG]

Hey all

I have two machines, both running Debian stable (squeeze) and on both I 
jettisoned OpenOffice.org in favor of LibreOffice.


On one machine (box A) in Writer or in Calc I can use the keyboard 
commands Ctrl+F or Ctrl+Alt+F to "find" and "find and replace" 
respectively.  On Box B however, these keyboard commands don't work - 
instead the file drop down menu is activated.


Aside from the actual hardware inside the boxes, the installation was 
the same, the updates were the same, etc. so how do I begin debugging this?


Thanks for any assistance.

AG


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Re: Some shell query

[kuLa]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

On 28/11/11 04:53, Kousik Maiti wrote:
> Hi LIst,

hi

> I have a text file like this
> 34 RADIO
> 2 RADWIN
> 1 RAGE
> 1 RAIL
> 1 RAU
> 3 RAU2
> 2 RE
> 2 RECEIVERS
> 13 RECEPTION
> 1 RECORDING
> 1 RECTIFIER
> 4 REF
> 3 REFURBISHED
> 4 REPEATER
> 
> I want to sort this by first word(here it is number).
> 
> Output should be like this
> 
> 34 RADIO
> 13 RECEPTION
> 4 REF
> 4 REPEATER
> 3 RAU2
> 3 REFURBISHED
> 2 RADWIN
> 2 RE
> 2 RECEIVERS
> 1 RAGE
> 1 RAIL
> 1 RAU
> 1 RECORDING
> 1 RECTIFIER

cat |sort -nr
should do

man sort will help as well

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Re: Booting into DOS

[Joe]

On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 23:06:29 -0500
Ethan Rosenberg  wrote:

> Dear list -
> 
> My hard drive has Linux and DOS partitions.  If I try to boot into 
> DOS from the start-up screen I receive the messages: "no argument 
> specified" adn "no such partition". How do i fix this.
> 

Good question.

Do you think it should work?

Did it ever work?

What is in these 'DOS' partitions and how were they created?

What 'start-up screen' do you mean? What bootloader is it, what version?

How did Linux get installed, and what did the bootloader say about the
DOS partitions when it was installed, if they existed first?

etc., etc.

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Re: Getty is spawning to early

[Tim Heckman]

Bob Proulx wrote:

Do you have the bug number handy?  I would be interested in reading
through it.


Certainly:

- Debian Bug #609851 - incorrect variables used to set hostname in 
dhclient-script

- http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=609851


I haven't noticed any behavior differences between ISC dhcpd version 3
in Lenny or version 4 in Squeeze with regards to having a hostname set
or having the dhcp client set the hostname.  In my environment I had
customized dhclient-script in both cases to allow me to set the
hostname from the dhcp client and so I may have covered up the problem
you have hit.  The logic between the versions is different but because
I customized the dhclient-script this would have hidden any issue with
the default logic.  Hence why I would like to look at the bug report.

For me both versions behaved the same with regards to the default
behavior of having a hostname set and for my customized behavior of
having the client set the hostname from the assigned dhcp ip address.

I also did as you indicated in another message of using the PTR record
assigned to the ip address to obtain the desired hostname.


The short version of the bug is that the "dhclient-script" script uses 
variables that are not initialized.  The one if statement to set the 
hostname will never be true because of this reason.



So primarily the problem is that you don't have a process in place to
automatically set up /etc/hostname to the desired name upon the first
provisioning, boot, deployment?  You have previously used the dhcpd
assignment and the dhcp client hook script to do this.  Put it in the
master image template and then it gets copied and deployed
automatically.  That always worked before and you were happy and
stopped there.  But now things are different.  That process is not
working now.  You are unhappy and looking for a solution.  Is that a
reasonable reading?


I'd say somewhat reasonable.  However, I would say things aren't broken 
by rather they aren't working the way they should.  As far as I am aware 
we've not had to "fight" with other distributions to get it working. 
Debian Squeeze seems to be the first one giving us a battle.


In previous versions we used the regular dhclient hook script.  The 
logic existed there to do it properly.



Are you open for some ideas and brainstorming?  I understand that you
have a heterogeneous environment with various distributions.  But once
it is in your master image template that part is unique to each
distribution image right?  You simply want to have it all work
automatically without any manual interaction right?  And it only needs
to do the action exactly once at the first boot and then it can be a
fixed static name with a fixed static address after that right?


I'm definitely up for some ideas.  If I was not able to resolve the race 
condition I want to see what other things I can do to resolve this.


I'd prefer to have DHCP set the hostname at every boot, if possible, 
until our customer sets one themselves.  However, if this can't be done 
than I will do it only on first boot.



Different ideas...

1) Create a local isc-dhcp-client deb package with dhclient-script
   modified for your purpose.  Use 4.1.1-P1-15~special1 or similar
   that will be guaranteed to have an earlier version than the stock
   version.  Code it to do the right thing for your environment.  If
   it is upgraded to the stock version that is fine and desired (as I
   understand it) since the work it was tasked to do of setting up
   /etc/hostname will already have been done.  Any later upgrade would
   completely clean up the customization and become a completely stock
   system which would be perfect.  A disadvantage is that admins that
   follow you on this may not be versed in creating packages.  It is a
   simple process but would be a barrier to entry for some admins.

2) Hack /sbin/dhclient-script directly.  Sure it is part of the
   isc-dhcp-client package.  Sure hacking it will cause it to fail an
   md5sum check.  But that is okay, isn't it?  It is your hack and you
   are in control of it.  If the package is reinstalled later then it
   will replace the hacked version with the packaged version and fix
   everything.  Since it's not a "conffile" it will simply be
   replaced.  But by that time it will have done its job and set
   /etc/hostname and all will be fine to be replaced with the stock
   version.  Just a hack of /sbin/dhclient-script is simpler than
   creating a full package.  The process is fairly transparent and is
   understandable by almost any admin that follows you.

3) Create a local boot time /etc/init.d/vpsprovider script that does
   the same thing.  This would be slightly simpler than creating the
   full package replacement.  This would be slightly more complicated
   than hacking /sbin/dhclient-script but could handle more
   complicated situations.  For example it could check if the hostname
   was the unconfigured hostname and then s

Re: gksu: Couldn't set environment variable...

[Sthu Deus]

Thank You for Your time and answer, Bob:

>Uhm...  What?  But he did!  You must have missed that he said he
>wanted to run them from gksu.  If you are not familiar with it that is
>the entire purpose of gksu.  From the gksu man page:
>
>   gksu  is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo.
> Their pri- mary purpose is to run graphical commands that need  root
> without  the need to run an X terminal emulator and using su directly.
>
>Therefore, yes, he did say he wanted to run those as root.  :-) :-)

But I really do not intend nor use any root privileges to run the app.s
w/ root privileges. Opposite to this - I try to separate two users -
one for local work, another - the net one (i.e. chromium, qbittorrent,
etc).

Having said that the programs I run w/ gksu are run under the user only
- regardless what is said in its manuals. Thus, only two users involved
  - the primer user who issues gksu command and all its children being
run w/ the privileges of the intended user only. Therefore, Bob is
correct - I did not mention root privileges, nor gksu runs app.s w/
it.

I think, there is at least a difference between "written" and "is".


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