Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[T Elcor]

--- On Fri, 1/6/12, Weaver  wrote:

> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions.

I'd suggest klavaro application to improve one's typing skills, it supports 
several popular layouts including dvorak. With a blank keyboard one would need 
to be able to blind type.

I like the app, I can certainly see improvement in my case.


$ aptitude show klavaro
Package: klavaro
Version: 1.9.3-1
...
Description: Flexible touch typing tutor
 Klavaro is a simple tutor to teach correct typing, almost independently of 
language and very flexible
 regarding to new or unknown keyboard layouts. 
 
 Its key features are: 
 * Internationalization 
 * Ready to use keyboard layouts 
 * Keyboard layout editor 
 * Basic course 
 * Adaptability, velocity and fluidness exercises 
 * Progress charts.
Homepage: http://klavaro.sourceforge.net


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Re: cron anacron fcron

[Scott Ferguson]

On 07/01/12 13:52, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Can someone please help me understand the difference between�cron
> anacron fcron 

cron - best on constantly running machines
anacron - for machines that aren't always running, it'll try and trigger
events when it is
fcron - has features of both cron and anacron


Note: fron is not in wheezy

> and are there any linux schedulers available in Linux ?


Do you mean Debian - or GNU/Linux/BSD in general?



See wikipedia "Unix process and task management-related software" if
it's not Debian specific information you are after.

voxie-cron etc

> 
> Regards
> 
> Kaushal
> 


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cron anacron fcron

[Kaushal Shriyan]

Hi

Can someone please help me understand the difference between cron anacron
fcron and are there any linux schedulers available in Linux ?

Regards

Kaushal

Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Weaver]

> You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively
> pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound
> card for those typing sessions.  Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key
> to use.  This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.

Good tip.
Thanks for that.
Regards,

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Re: D programming: rdmd

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello List:

On 05/01/12 18:10, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Thanks.

I am looking for Debian ways:
right now I play with gdc-4.6


It appears that rdmd.d is distributed within the source of the pacakge gdc-4.6.

Jerome



On 05/01/12 17:56, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 17:25:13 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:


Where is rdmd in Debian ?


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http://www.d-programming-language.org/faq.html#q5

Will D be open source?

The front end for the dmd D compiler is open source, and the complete
source comes with the compiler, and is available on github. The back end
for dmd is licensed from Symantec. The runtime library is completely open
source using the Boost License 1.0. The gdc and ldc D compilers are
completely open sourced.
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Maybe is not there because the backend if not GPL licensed? :-?

Compiled packages are available here:

http://www.digitalmars.com/d/download.html

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SIP programs on PowerPC

[Dima Sorkin]

Hi.
  I have Debian/SID on iBook G4 (powerpc), updated on a weekly basis.

Of the SIP programs I tried, only Twinkle succeeded to produce sound.

Ekiga and LinPhone connect to 500 at ekiga-dot-net (test call), with no sound. 
Ekiga shows that no sound input stream is received from the ekiga server (but 
video is ok).

Blink (built from source) could not be installed because of dependencies.

QuteCom does not provide a GUI option to register to a SIP account.


I wonder whether those issues are laptop specific, or powerpc specific (big 
endian etc)?

Thanks,
  Dima.

P.S.
  Please CC me, I am not registered to the list.


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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Jude DaShiell]

You could use a blank keyboard with a dvorak layout pretty effectively 
pretty quickly if you used the speakup feature to put speech on your sound 
card for those typing sessions.  Hit a wrong key, there's a backspace key 
to use.  This for sighted people just enables another learning channel.On 
Fri, 6 Jan 2012, Weaver wrote:

> 
> > On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
> >>> Hello all.
> >>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
> >>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
> >>> delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
> >>> Dvorak keyboard into the system.
> >>>
> >>> Who makes the best ones?
> >>> Where can they be bought from.
> >>
> >> Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a physical device.
> >
> > I'd say it can match both assertions.
> >
> >> You can buy a keyboard with a Dvorak layout by default but it might
> >> this doesn't make sense if you're using more than one layout or you can
> >> buy a blank keyboard - without anything printed on it. What's wrong
> >> with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
> >
> > That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one
> > printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in
> > your head and type without looking at the keyboard.
> 
> Yes, I need this keyboard to learn with.
> Thanks,
> 
> Apologies to those I've been sending unintentional personal replies to.
> Regards,
> 
> Weaver.
> 


Jude 



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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Tony Baldwin]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 01:46:38PM -0800, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> > On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:10:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >
> >> On Vi, 06 ian 12, 12:11:36, Camaleón wrote:
> >
> > Yup, I did read it, but it does not say a word about the possibility of a
> > direct jump (lenny → wheezy) nor if the first decission was going to be
> > retired.
> 
> The official upgrade process for Lenny to Squeeze was not as easy as a
> simple dist-upgrade, and I wonder if Lenny-to-Wheezy would be too

It really amazes me to see anybody say(write) this.
Having used several distributions (as mentioned), 
I found the Lenny->Squeeze (my first Debian upgrade) to be amazingly
easy. Like falling off a log.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Weaver]

> On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> "Weaver"  wrote:
>
>> Hello all.
>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater
>> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
>> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
>> keyboard into the system.
>
> While I don't want to start a flame war, I'd suggest having a look at the
> colemak layout as well.  This has some advantages (I feel) over Dvorak.
> Then again, it may all boil down to personal preference.
>
> http://colemak.com

Thanks for that.
Regards,

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Weaver]

> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
>> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
>>
>> How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which
>> you
>> could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.
>
> On laptops or cheap PS2/USB keyboards it's might be tricky.
> Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
> by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
> computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.
>
> Cherry makes nice keyboards (the MX ones) or you can buy "Das Keyboard"
> (available blank as well as printed) which AFAIK is based on Cherry.

Thanks for the leads.
Regards,

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Tony Baldwin]

On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 04:36:49PM +0100, Camaleón wrote:
> El 2012-01-04 a las 13:42 -0500, Tony Baldwin escribió:
> 
> (resending to the list)
> 
> > "Camaleón"  wrote:
> > 
> > >On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 10:54:29 -0400, francis picabia wrote:
> > >
> > >> There was discussion here a few months ago about there being no official
> > >> date for end of life on Lenny.  This has changed.  I just noticed this
> > >> item on the security announcement mailing list:
> > >> 
> > >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2011/msg00238.html
> > >> 
> > >> No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012.
> > >
> > >Yes, unfortunately Debian team changed their mind at the middle of the 
> > >proccess. This unforeseen change forces me to keep my lenny systems until 
> > >wheezy is released which means having unpatched servers and workstations 
> > >for months ;-(
> 
> > Why can't you use squeeze?
> > -- 
> > Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
> 
> Indeed, I do can, but I prefer to accomodate the span-life of the next 
> installation round to match the longest support cycle possible with the 
> less disturbances for me (admin) and my users :-)
> 

disturbances?
Have you upgraded a Debian from old->new stable before?

You should just upgrade to Squeeze.
Lenny was my first Debian (had tried to install woody years ago, 
but the installer never got my X working, on various hardware...weird...
so I stuck with RH/Fedora from RH7.0 up to FC4, then played with
ubuntu, pclinuxos, and a few others. RH/FC, Ubuntu, PC, etc., 
all frequently broke stuff on updtes/upgrades).
So, the lenny->squeeze upgrade was my first Debian upgrade.

EASIEST UPGRADE EVER!
Seriously.
Not only was I thrilled that Squeeze was released on my birthday,
but I spent about 1 hour doing the upgrade, and was back in business as
if nothing had changed (except, well, stuff was even better).
No disturbances.
I'm not lying.
While I have tried numerous distributions in the past, 
after such a completely seemless and ridiculously easy upgrade, 
especially, and the rock solid/nothing ever breaks stability of Debian
STable, I just can't imagine myself ever wanting to change to another
distribution again. Ever.
So easy to upgrade.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Weaver]

> Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700:
>> idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>>
>> Who makes the best ones?
>> Where can they be bought from.
>
> You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled
> keys, and none of marker, paint, and stickers last long enough.
>
> There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found
> (I
> have used none of these):
> http://typematrix.com
> http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
> http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-layouts-dvorak
> http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-dvorak-simplified-touchdown-black-usb
>
And thanks for these.
Regards,

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Weaver]

> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
>>> Hello all.
>>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
>>> delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
>>> Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>>>
>>> Who makes the best ones?
>>> Where can they be bought from.
>>
>> Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a physical device.
>
> I'd say it can match both assertions.
>
>> You can buy a keyboard with a Dvorak layout by default but it might
>> this doesn't make sense if you're using more than one layout or you can
>> buy a blank keyboard - without anything printed on it. What's wrong
>> with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
>
> That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one
> printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in
> your head and type without looking at the keyboard.

Yes, I need this keyboard to learn with.
Thanks,

Apologies to those I've been sending unintentional personal replies to.
Regards,

Weaver.
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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Luis Alejandro Martínez Faneyth]

Canaima (debian derivative) made an update assistant [1] for the upgrade
from it's lenny-based version (2.1) to it's squeeze-based (3.0), and
everything worked out ok for users: they didn't have to reinstall.

You can take a look at it's main script [2] (bash, comments in spanish).

¿Is this suitable for Debian?

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> On Friday 06 January 2012 21:46:38 Steven Rosenberg wrote:
>> Truth be told, I'd just do a reinstall of Wheezy when the time comes.
> 
> That's generally a good idea anyway!  (IMHO, of ciourse.)
> 
> Lisi
> 
> 

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Re: PHP5 scripts not served by apache2 on Squeeze

[Bob Proulx]

Kristian Lampen wrote:
> it is working now on my machine.
> 
> The only thing I did is installing the package php-pear, it was not
> before. Because I had not a dependency conflict, I thought it is not
> needed!?

I don't have php-pear installed.  (shrug)

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Dan Serban]

On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
"Weaver"  wrote:

> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard into the system.

While I don't want to start a flame war, I'd suggest having a look at the
colemak layout as well.  This has some advantages (I feel) over Dvorak.
Then again, it may all boil down to personal preference.

http://colemak.com


> Who makes the best ones?
> Where can they be bought from.
> 
> Thanks for any time and trouble.
> Regards,
> 
> Weaver.


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bc4318 netinstall

[Nikolas Slivka]

Hello!

I have 2 machines. One old P4 config with bloatware BC4318 wireless connection 
only and one netbook, both with Windows XP.
I tried intall to PC Debian Squeeze from netinstall image, but network can't 
configured because missing firmware for BC4310 network card.
How I can install debian from netinstall on this machine(old P4 config)?

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Re: Screen resolution

[Brian]

On Fri 06 Jan 2012 at 18:37:01 +, Andrew Wood wrote:

> OK, in an ideal world though shouldnt the board 'announce' that it  
> supports that mode when probed?

I think X can only work with what it is given. If the monitor fails for
some reason to impart information X's idea of what is possible is bound
to be incomplete. xrandr will display what it thinks it can do based on
what it knows, so, as has been pointed out, if it is lacking in knowledge
of what is possible you will have to tell it.

I'll not bore you with why it happens but the EDID data are not passed to
X on a couple of my machines, My xorg.conf is usually non-existent but
in this case I have:

   Section "Monitor"
   Identifier   "1905FP"
   Modeline "1280x1024"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 
-hsync +vsync
   HorizSync 30-81
   VertRefresh   56-76
   EndSection

   Section "Screen"
   Identifier"Default Screen"
   Monitor   "1905FP"
   DefaultDepth   16
   SubSection "Display"
   Depth  16
   Modes "1280x1024"
   EndSubSection
   EndSection

Modeline is computed using 'cvt 1280 1024'.



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Re: Screen resolution

[Jochen Spieker]

Andrew Wood:
> On 06/01/12 18:21, Camaleón wrote:
>> Yup, you have to add the unexistant mode before you can use it :-)
>> Steps are detailed at "Adding undetected resolutions" section.
>> Greetings,
> 
> OK, in an ideal world though shouldnt the board 'announce' that it
> supports that mode when probed?

Yes, that's what your broken EDID should do instead of delivering
zeroes.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Lisi]

On Friday 06 January 2012 21:46:38 Steven Rosenberg wrote:
> Truth be told, I'd just do a reinstall of Wheezy when the time comes.

That's generally a good idea anyway!  (IMHO, of ciourse.)

Lisi


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Re: Installing 32bit Printer Drivers on Debian Stable amd64

[Jamie Paul Griffin]

On 2012-01-06 22:09:00 + Jamie Paul Griffin  wrote:

> On 2012-01-06 11:34:14 + Camaleón  wrote:> 
> It installed but I was still not able to print after successfully setting it 
> up from within the cups admin webpage. I installed the ia32-libs package and 
> it worked. So for the benefit of the archives I thought I would share that.
> I'm wondering about printing from the command line though. lp(1) just shows a 
> "no destination to printer" message. I think I might need the cups-bsd 
> package but I can't see why I shouldn't be able to print from the command 
> line with the normal cups packages.
>   jamie.

I figured it - I should have read more on the internet. I simply needed to set 
the default printer in the cups admin webpage.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Lisi]

On Friday 06 January 2012 20:07:57 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
> by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
> computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.

Thanks.  Worth knowing!

Lisi


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Re: Installing 32bit Printer Drivers on Debian Stable amd64

[Jamie Paul Griffin]

On 2012-01-06 11:34:14 + Camaleón  wrote:

 For this there are some hints over Internet:
 
> canon ip4700 printer/driver problem on 64bit karmic
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408300
 
> That method will sucedded depending on the packaging. If Canon packagers did
> count on the possibility of installing the required 32-bits libraries so the 
> driver could be installed over 64-bits systems, then the installer will ask 
> for any dependency. I'm not sure this is an option for Canon drivers, though.
 
> I would try (and then buy should they work) the Turboprint drivers which 
> seems to support your printer model (although just the printing function):
 
> http://www.zedonet.com/en_p_turboprint_driver.phtml?printer=Canon_PIXMA_iP4700
 
> Nex time, buy an HP multifunction (or another branded linux compatible) 
> device and ensure it is supported directly by manufacturer's driver :-P


Ok first I forced the driver installation:

dpkg -i --force-architecture 

It installed but I was still not able to print after successfully setting it up 
from within the cups admin webpage. I installed the ia32-libs package and it 
worked. So for the benefit of the archives I thought I would share that. 

I'm wondering about printing from the command line though. lp(1) just shows a 
"no destination to printer" message. I think I might need the cups-bsd package 
but I can't see why I shouldn't be able to print from the command line with the 
normal cups packages. 

jamie.


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Re: Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

[Scott Ferguson]

On 07/01/12 07:28, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my Debian SID yesterday and since then something is wrong
> with my sound.
> 
> I have installed GNOME and Window Maker X Window environments, and my
> favorite is WM.
> 
> I'm using IRSSI and after upgrade I can't heare anymore the beep sound
> when someone send me a message.
> 
> Evolution doesn't beep when mails arrived.
> 
> I'm using Skype too and can't heare it's sounds.
> Skype says:
> It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings
> you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume
> control. 
> 
> When I try to make a test sound with Skype I can see on my WMMixer that
> that the volume suddenly come to zero and afte ra while it come back to
> the normal volume but during that I can't heare any sound.
> 
> I'm using Rhytmbox and I can heare music and voice from it.
> 
> So one application works and another doesn't work.
> 
> When I run Gnome-control-center I can't setup there any PulseAudio
> thing.
> 
> How can I solve this problem?
> 
As I don't run WM, Gnome or SID what works for my might not be useful to
you.

I have found the first link below very useful, the second[*1] might be
of interest to you also:-
http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497

As a general test:-
aplay /usr/share/skype/sounds/SkypeLogout.wav (because I once spent
hours discovering I didn't have the headset speaker plugged in)

[*1] note that is starts in 2007


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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Steven Rosenberg]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:10:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
>> On Vi, 06 ian 12, 12:11:36, Camaleón wrote:
>>>
>>> Sure (this was also discussed in this same list, time ago...). The
>>> possibility of jumping from Lenny to Wheezy was oficially mentioned
>>> here:
>>>
>>> Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
>>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html
>>>
>>> And this announcement was not corrected nor modified afterwards (unless
>>> I missed something), so I managed the installation on my Lenny systems
>>> having in mind such statement which it finally turned out to be not
>>> possible :-)
>>
>> You probably missed
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00010.html
>>
>> ,
>> | In the light of these goals and also in consideration of the Debian |
>> community's feedback to the release team's initial announcement during |
>> the keynote of this year's DebConf in Caceres, Spain, the Release Team |
>> has additionally decided to revisit its decision on December 2009 as the
>> | proposed freeze date. A new timeline will be announced by the Debian |
>> Release Team in early September.
>> `
>
> Yup, I did read it, but it does not say a word about the possibility of a
> direct jump (lenny → wheezy) nor if the first decission was going to be
> retired.

The official upgrade process for Lenny to Squeeze was not as easy as a
simple dist-upgrade, and I wonder if Lenny-to-Wheezy would be too
difficult to work out. I can't imagine that those with Lenny aren't
encouraged to go Lenny-Squeeze-Wheezy.

Truth be told, I'd just do a reinstall of Wheezy when the time comes.


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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

[Chris Davies]

Harry Putnam  wrote:
> When I run this configure command:
> ./configure --with-xft --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
>   --prefix=/usr/local/src/vcs/bzr/test/

> I get this final error:

> | configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries
> | were found.

Google "debian install X development libraries" suggests xorg-dev as
the metapackage for ... X Window System development libraries.


> | and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+, Lesstif or Motif

Google "debian install gtk development libraries" seems to provide some
good suggestions


> | sure you have development files for image handling, i.e.
> | tiff, gif, jpeg, png and xpm.

It didn't seem to be particularly hard to follow the motif and find
development package suggestions for at least some of these.

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Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

[Csanyi Pal]

Hi,

I upgraded my Debian SID yesterday and since then something is wrong
with my sound.

I have installed GNOME and Window Maker X Window environments, and my
favorite is WM.

I'm using IRSSI and after upgrade I can't heare anymore the beep sound
when someone send me a message.

Evolution doesn't beep when mails arrived.

I'm using Skype too and can't heare it's sounds.
Skype says:
It appears your system has PulseAudio running: to change sound settings
you need to use your Desktop Manager volume control or PulseAudio volume
control. 

When I try to make a test sound with Skype I can see on my WMMixer that
that the volume suddenly come to zero and afte ra while it come back to
the normal volume but during that I can't heare any sound.

I'm using Rhytmbox and I can heare music and voice from it.

So one application works and another doesn't work.

When I run Gnome-control-center I can't setup there any PulseAudio
thing.

How can I solve this problem?

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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

[Harry Putnam]

Wayne Topa  writes:


[...]


> Forget this.  I was working on an xserver problem and my Old Mind went
> dead.   :-(

Hehe... got a good chuckle out of that... That very thing is why I had
to post the query When I hit that error... my OLD MIND went dead.
Not sure its even recoverable hehe


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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

[francis picabia]

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:12:03 -0400, francis picabia wrote:
>
>> On most of my older systems, I've needed to add the option rootdelay=9
>> to make the system boot when upgrading to the kernel and such for
>> squeeze. Without it, the root file system is not found and it drops you
>> into the initramfs prompt.
>
> Mmm, yes, it is documented:
>
> 4.6.3. Boot timing issues
> http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#boot-timing

Thanks for the link...

This type of documentation can always be found if you
already know the problem and solution, but it is invisible
if you only have a symptom.  I was already expecting it
this time, but the first time I encountered it I took some
time to find the problem.  The better way to describe it is to include
details on what kind of failure you will see, with some parts of the text
as it appears on the screen.  I would not call it "boot timing issues",
but rather "No root file system on boot, drops to initramfs prompt".
Calling it merely "a debug shell" is too vague and does not match
google searches.  People discussing it in forums and mailing
lists match the search terms, while the Debian release notes do not.

I generally print out the release notes prior to upgrade.  In particular,
it might help to place this in chapter 5 rather than 4.  Chapter 5
is "Issues to be aware of for squeeze".  As this didn't happen in
Debian 5, I would think it belongs there.

There has been some improvement on the errors shown on the screen
lately, with at least 3 potential problems listed when this goes sour,
and one of them is the rootdelay option.


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Re: How to do this, fold + split

[Karl Vogel]

>> On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:09:13 + (UTC), 
>> T o n g  said:

T> I want to split a file every ### of chars. Is it possible not to split
T> on the word but word boundaries?

   Yup, for certain meanings of "split".  GNU fmt is part of "coreutils".
   Here's sample.txt (rulers added for readability):

   me% cat sample.txt
   *1*2*3*4*5*6*7*
   Here is what I normally do.  Here is a skeleton script that creates a
   temporary file, redirects all output there, then if there is output it
   emails it off.  There are many ways to do this and I tinker it as
   needed.

   me% gfmt -65 sample.txt
   *1*2*3*4*5*6*7*
   Here is what I normally do.  Here is a skeleton script that
   creates a temporary file, redirects all output there, then if
   there is output it emails it off.  There are many ways to do
   this and I tinker it as needed.

   me% gfmt -75 sample.txt
   *1*2*3*4*5*6*7*
   Here is what I normally do.  Here is a skeleton script that creates a
   temporary file, redirects all output there, then if there is output it
   emails it off.  There are many ways to do this and I tinker it as needed.

   If you want one word per line, which can be very handy:

   me% gfmt -1 sample.txt
   Here
   is
   what
   [...]
   as
   needed.

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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

[Wayne Topa]

On 01/06/2012 03:15 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:

On 01/06/2012 02:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

I'm sorry since I asked this question a while back but am not finding
the answers now... search.gmane.org only turns up the same question by
me from 2008.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/342622

Googling brings up this same thread as the first hit.

But apparently the package names have changed or something since
search for the pkgs mentioned there fails.


So cutting to the chase:

When I run this configure command:
./configure --with-xft --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
--prefix=/usr/local/src/vcs/bzr/test/

I get this final error:

,
| configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development
libraries
| were found. You should install the relevant development files for X
| and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+, Lesstif or Motif. Also make
| sure you have development files for image handling, i.e.
| tiff, gif, jpeg, png and xpm.
`

I know I recently had this problem and solved it with someones
help... but am not finding that solution now.

Can anyone offer a suggestion of what pkgs might be missing.






Forget this.  I was working on an xserver problem and my Old Mind went 
dead.   :-(



maybe you don't have the xserver-xorg.dev package installed?

dpkg -l xserver-xorg-*

WT



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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

[Wayne Topa]

On 01/06/2012 02:32 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:

I'm sorry since I asked this question a while back but am not finding
the answers now... search.gmane.org only turns up the same question by
me from 2008.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/342622

Googling brings up this same thread as the first hit.

But apparently the package names have changed or something since
search for the pkgs mentioned there fails.


So cutting to the chase:

When I run this configure command:
./configure --with-xft --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
--prefix=/usr/local/src/vcs/bzr/test/

I get this final error:

,
| configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries
| were found.  You should install the relevant development files for X
| and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+, Lesstif or Motif.  Also make
| sure you have development files for image handling, i.e.
| tiff, gif, jpeg, png and xpm.
`

I know I recently had this problem and solved it with someones
help... but am not finding that solution now.

Can anyone offer a suggestion of what pkgs might be missing.




maybe you don't  have the xserver-xorg.dev package installed?

dpkg -l xserver-xorg-*

WT


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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Raf Czlonka]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 07:37:21PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
> 
> How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you 
> could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.

On laptops or cheap PS2/USB keyboards it's might be tricky.
Model M keyboards as these are the ones you referring to, originally made
by IBM, are still widely available either from your local second hand
computer shop or from eBay or you can still buy them new from Unicomp.

Cherry makes nice keyboards (the MX ones) or you can buy "Das Keyboard"
(available blank as well as printed) which AFAIK is based on Cherry.

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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

[francis picabia]

On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Alexey Eromenko  wrote:
> Do you need this only for upgrade to squeeze or to run squeeze afterwards ?
>
> I am running Squeeze (amd64) on 4 PCs here (fresh install from DVD),
> and no problems.

We need the kernel option from then on for the kernel used by squeeze.
 We typically have
mdadm style software raid on all boot systems, using /dev/md0
typically as root file system.  The rootdelay=9 doesn't cause much delay - that
is the maximum it might wait, but for us it perhaps pauses for 1 second.

On the most recent case, I saw this problem appear with an Intel based
motherboard, the SE7520JR22, from around 2006.  We are booting from a pair
of SCSI drives on Ultra 320 with chipset Symbios Logic 53c1030.

I also had a problem last year with an IBM xSeries 345.  In that case we needed
'rootdelay=9' and also kernel option: 'scsi_mod.scan=sync'.  Again,
the up to date
kernel from Debian 5 didn't require this option to boot up the system.


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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Lisi]

On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard

How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on which you 
could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern equivalent.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[green]

Weaver wrote at 2012-01-06 10:39 -0700:
> idea of implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
> 
> Who makes the best ones?
> Where can they be bought from.

You can use any keyboard as Dvorak, but I prefer to have properly labeled 
keys, and none of marker, paint, and stickers last long enough.

There are not many Dvorak keyboards available, but here some I have found (I 
have used none of these):
http://typematrix.com
http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-layouts-dvorak
http://www.hooleon.com/collections/dvorak/products/keyboards-dvorak-simplified-touchdown-black-usb


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Re: Wheezy: "module unix not found in modules.dep"

[Brian]

On Fri 06 Jan 2012 at 17:08:46 +, Camaleón wrote:

> Since one of the latest kernel upgrades I started seeing this message 
> when booting:
> 
> "module unix not found in modules.dep"
> 
> And Google served me with this:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652672
> 
> And more specifically, this:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652672#37
> 
> There are no side effects, all works fine but what's missing and how to 
> to get rid of it?

Comment out the line 'force_load unix' in /initramfs-tools/hooks/udev
and run

   update-initramfs -u

Personally I wouldn't bother. As you say, it does no harm and when in
time it disappears you will know the bug is gone.

A little off the topic of your mail (and rhetorical) I wonder what your
reaction will be when testing gets the new sysvinit?


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Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

[Harry Putnam]

I'm sorry since I asked this question a while back but am not finding
the answers now... search.gmane.org only turns up the same question by
me from 2008.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/342622

Googling brings up this same thread as the first hit.

But apparently the package names have changed or something since
search for the pkgs mentioned there fails.


So cutting to the chase:

When I run this configure command:
./configure --with-xft --with-x-toolkit=lucid \
   --prefix=/usr/local/src/vcs/bzr/test/

I get this final error:

,
| configure: error: You seem to be running X, but no X development libraries
| were found.  You should install the relevant development files for X
| and for the toolkit you want, such as Gtk+, Lesstif or Motif.  Also make
| sure you have development files for image handling, i.e.
| tiff, gif, jpeg, png and xpm.
`

I know I recently had this problem and solved it with someones
help... but am not finding that solution now.

Can anyone offer a suggestion of what pkgs might be missing.


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Re: Screen resolution

[Andrew Wood]

On 06/01/12 18:21, Camaleón wrote:
Yup, you have to add the unexistant mode before you can use it :-) 
Steps are detailed at "Adding undetected resolutions" section. Greetings, 


OK, in an ideal world though shouldnt the board 'announce' that it 
supports that mode when probed?



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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Raf Czlonka]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:37:16PM GMT, Camaleón wrote:
> That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one 
> printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in 
> your head and type without looking at the keyboard.

That's why I suggested a blank as it won't confuse you or swap the keys.
It's not really that hard to memorise the full keyboard layout and learn
to touch type.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Raf Czlonka]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 06:32:06PM GMT, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> > What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?
> 
> Because you wouldn't know where the letters are?  I think that Weaver means a 
> physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS.

I guess I wasn't clear enough. This should have been:
What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
and changing the layout at the same time (I'm aware it won't be 100%)?
This way one can try it out without spending money and changing their
mind. Later it's time to start learning to touch type.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:22:35 +, Raf Czlonka wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
>> Hello all.
>> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
>> greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even
>> delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a
>> Dvorak keyboard into the system.
>> 
>> Who makes the best ones?
>> Where can they be bought from.
> 
> Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a physical device. 

I'd say it can match both assertions.

> You can buy a keyboard with a Dvorak layout by default but it might 
> this doesn't make sense if you're using more than one layout or you can
> buy a blank keyboard - without anything printed on it. What's wrong
> with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?

That using a printed keyboard with a different layout (other than the one 
printed) is a completely mess unless you can memory the full keymap in 
your head and type without looking at the keyboard.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Lisi]

On Friday 06 January 2012 18:22:35 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?

Because you wouldn't know where the letters are?  I think that Weaver means a 
physical keyboard, not the choice of layout in your OS.

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Re: [Cleared up] Wheezy update wrecks MC graphics?

[godo]

No idea what it was all about, but this problem cleared up with the
next update run.  Go figure. :-)

Glad to hear it, probably it was just wrong file encoding like Scott 
Ferguson said.


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Re: Screen resolution

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 17:42:37 +, Andrew Wood wrote:

> On 06/01/12 16:59, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:59:45 +, Andrew Wood wrote:
>>
>>> Ive got an LCD screen whose native resolution is 1440x900 yet i can
>>> only get Wheezy to display 1024x768. No higher resolution is listed in
>>> System Settings. How do I enable a higher resolution please?
>> What's the output of "xrandr"?
>>
>> You can try to manually add the desired resolution from there (using
>> xrandr). Here is a good doc, although it can be a bit oudated, YMMV:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions

> Thanks guys, xrandr gives:
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
> VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 0mm x 0mm
> 1024x768   60.0*
> 800x60060.3 56.2
> 848x48060.0
> 640x48059.9
> DVI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) TV1
> disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 
> 
> using the Ubuntu wiki instructions I then tried:
> 
> xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900
> 
> and got:
> 
> xrandr: cannot find mode 1440x900

Yup, you have to add the unexistant mode before you can use it :-)

Steps are detailed at "Adding undetected resolutions" section.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

[Raf Czlonka]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 05:39:03PM GMT, Weaver wrote:
> Hello all.
> I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the greater
> typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have even delayed
> moving from two finger typing with an idea of implementing a Dvorak
> keyboard into the system.
> 
> Who makes the best ones?
> Where can they be bought from.

Dvorak is a keyboard layout not a physical device.
You can buy a keyboard with a Dvorak layout by default but it might this
doesn't make sense if you're using more than one layout or you can buy
a blank keyboard - without anything printed on it.
What's wrong with simply using the existing keyboard with Dvorak layout?

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Re: how to get the date of the last upgrade?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:38:15 +0100, Meike Stone wrote:

>>> how can I get information when the last upgrade ("update") was done
>>> (apt-get upgrade or aptitude *-upgrade).
>>
>> "/var/log/apt/term.log" should tell.
>>
>>
> 
> I tried this and it that seems that this file is not very reliable, or
> the  logrotate does delete all other. The system is from 2008 an the
> term.log shows me only two entires from 2011. 

Yup, that's for the "latest" update run.

The remainder updates are archived under "/var/log/apt/term.log.*.gz".

> On rpm systems, I can use rpm -qa --last. Is there any similar command
> on debian?

Ah, that command reminds my days with openSUSE :-)

In Debian there are also "/var/log/dpkg.log.*.gz" files which list the 
installed packages sorted by time.

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Re: how to get the date of the last upgrade?

[Florian Rehnisch]

o Meike Stone :
> On rpm systems, I can use rpm -qa --last. Is there any similar command
> on debian?

You could go for

% ls -rtl /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list

 flori


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Re: Screen resolution

[Andrew Wood]

Thanks guys, xrandr gives:
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 768, maximum 4096 x 4096
VGA1 connected 1024x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 
0mm x 0mm

   1024x768   60.0*
   800x60060.3 56.2
   848x48060.0
   640x48059.9
DVI1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
TV1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)


using the Ubuntu wiki instructions I then tried:

xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1440x900

and got:

xrandr: cannot find mode 1440x900

On 06/01/12 16:59, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:59:45 +, Andrew Wood wrote:


Ive got an LCD screen whose native resolution is 1440x900 yet i can only
get Wheezy to display 1024x768. No higher resolution is listed in System
Settings. How do I enable a higher resolution please?

What's the output of "xrandr"?

You can try to manually add the desired resolution from there (using
xrandr). Here is a good doc, although it can be a bit oudated, YMMV:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions

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Re: Removing debian from hdd

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:05:58 -0300, Guido Martínez wrote:

> I recently borrowed a hard drive and installed debian on it, alongside
> windows. I used it for a couple of weeks.
> 
> Later, I tried to remove debian by deleting the partitions I had
> installed it on, but that caused grub to fail horribly, and I had to
> reinstall debian. How can I remove debian? Can I make grub ignore that
> partition and then delete it?

I don't understand what's your final goal, let's see...

You have a hard disk with windows and debian installed on different 
partitions. Fine.

GRUB is the default bootloader which allows you to boot into Debian or 
windows. Fine.

You have deleted/formatted your Debian partitions. Fine. Then you 
reinstalled it (? - this was not needed at all).

Now what do you want to do? What do you want to get? Do you want to keep 
your Windows install and use the windows bootloader? If yes, there is a 
"fixmbr" command you can run from within windows recovery console to 
restore windows NT loader.

Hint: next time, instead installing GRUB into the MBR you can leave it on 
the first sector of a partition and mark the GRUB's partition with the 
bootable flag, this way you keep your windows bootloader intact if you 
decide to remove linux afterwards.

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Re: how to get the date of the last upgrade?

[Meike Stone]

>> how can I get information when the last upgrade ("update") was done
>> (apt-get upgrade or aptitude *-upgrade).
>
> "/var/log/apt/term.log" should tell.
>

Hello,

I tried this and it that seems that this file is not very reliable, or
the  logrotate does delete all other. The system is from 2008 an the
term.log shows me only two entires from 2011.
On rpm systems, I can use rpm -qa --last. Is there any similar command
on debian?

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Re: how to get the date of the last upgrade?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 18:12:41 +0100, Meike Stone wrote:

> how can I get information when the last upgrade ("update") was done
> (apt-get upgrade or aptitude *-upgrade).

"/var/log/apt/term.log" should tell.

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how to get the date of the last upgrade?

[Meike Stone]

Hello,

how can I get information when the last upgrade ("update") was done
(apt-get upgrade or aptitude *-upgrade).

I have a few machines here, and I want to know when the last "system
update" was executed.

The Distributions are debian 5 and 6

Kind regards and thanx for help

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Wheezy: "module unix not found in modules.dep"

[Camaleón]

Hello,

Since one of the latest kernel upgrades I started seeing this message 
when booting:

"module unix not found in modules.dep"

And Google served me with this:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652672

And more specifically, this:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=652672#37

There are no side effects, all works fine but what's missing and how to 
to get rid of it?

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Re: Screen resolution

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:59:45 +, Andrew Wood wrote:

> Ive got an LCD screen whose native resolution is 1440x900 yet i can only
> get Wheezy to display 1024x768. No higher resolution is listed in System
> Settings. How do I enable a higher resolution please?

What's the output of "xrandr"?

You can try to manually add the desired resolution from there (using 
xrandr). Here is a good doc, although it can be a bit oudated, YMMV:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding_undetected_resolutions

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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[lina]

On 6 Jan, 2012, at 23:58, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:45:13 +0800, lina wrote:
> 
>> On Friday 06,January,2012 11:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> (...)
> 
>>> What a good policy!! I also want it for this mailing list }:-)
> 
>> Haha ... you do like those simple things. How do you set your icedove to
>> set plain text always?
>> I need to manually changed it from Tools--> Format-->  in the present
>> email-ing window.
> 
> Set plain text as the default sending options (hint: it's under 
> "Identities")

Haha... (now this email send by phone, no guarantee is plain text.  But I guess 
it's. Very simple. I left my laptop in the lab, so I will check on coming 
Monday. Hopefully)  

> 
>>> Did you redo *exactly* and *at the same order* the steps what worked
>>> before?
> 
>> Yes, but before I had those installed, due to not working, so I just
>> re-do those without wget part.
> 
> I bet you need to reproduce the same steps.
> 
>> Now to practise the *exactly*, I just removed the directories and former
>> downloaded .tar.gz
>> follow *exactly* again, reboot, not work?
> 
> Did you install "compat-wireless", run make install "b43-fwcutter-015", 
> et al?
I didn't pay much attention on this part. 
But I haven't removed since last time installed.  I will check it.  Seriously 
check.  I feel I'm wrong. A bit dependent.  Kinda of very? 
> 
>> does the ~$ uname -a
>> Linux dove 3.2.0-1-lina
>> fall behind the 3.2-rc6? I noticed the 3.2.0 is the latest in
>> www.kernel.org.
> 
> They're different, Debian can add different compilation options, some 
> patches... The latest kernel upstream sources are always the top-dated.
> 
> Greetings,

Thanks, be back 60 hours later or earlier.  

Have a nice weekend and take care of yourself, 

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Re: Screen resolution

[Johann Klammer]

Andrew Wood wrote:

Hi Kevin


yes the xserver-xorg-video-intel package is installed. how do i check
which driver is actually being used? one strange thing is that the
kernel is printing out the following to the console, not sure what it
means, could it be a fault with the controller board in the LCD?

353.942420] i915 :00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid.
[ 363.669312] Raw EDID:
[ 363.669327] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669335] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669343] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669350] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669357] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669364] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669371] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669378] 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 363.669392] i915 :00:02.0: VGA-1: EDID block 0 invalid.


On 06/01/12 00:59, Kevin Ross wrote:


EDID is the mechanism by which the display notifies the Gfx Card
of it's Capabilities(Resolution etc).
The message above may either be caused by your display not supplying 
this information, or it is querying the wrong output. VGA instead of 
DVI. In the latter case, it may not be significant at all.



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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 23:45:13 +0800, lina wrote:

> On Friday 06,January,2012 11:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> What a good policy!! I also want it for this mailing list }:-)

> Haha ... you do like those simple things. How do you set your icedove to
> set plain text always?
> I need to manually changed it from Tools--> Format-->  in the present
> email-ing window.

Set plain text as the default sending options (hint: it's under 
"Identities")

>> Did you redo *exactly* and *at the same order* the steps what worked
>> before?

> Yes, but before I had those installed, due to not working, so I just
> re-do those without wget part.

I bet you need to reproduce the same steps.

> Now to practise the *exactly*, I just removed the directories and former
> downloaded .tar.gz
> follow *exactly* again, reboot, not work?

Did you install "compat-wireless", run make install "b43-fwcutter-015", 
et al?

> does the ~$ uname -a
> Linux dove 3.2.0-1-lina
> fall behind the 3.2-rc6? I noticed the 3.2.0 is the latest in
> www.kernel.org.

They're different, Debian can add different compilation options, some 
patches... The latest kernel upstream sources are always the top-dated.

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Re: Csound5.15 ?

[PMA]

Andrei,

My apologies!  In some-or-other mental cranny I knew well
that one can't just plunk new .deb packages into a Stable
release.  Meanwhile, I see that Squeeze's Csound version
is 5.13, which will serve fine for awhile.  No need for back-
port (especially, burdening someone else with it).

And I may well upgrade soon to Testing.  Thanks for your
feedback!

Pete

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Jo, 05 ian 12, 16:23:52, PMA wrote:

Hi List.

I see the Csound .deb is at version 5.12.
Is an upgrade to 5.15 projected?

Thanks,
PMA


Hi PMA,

The only method for Debian stable to get newer versions is via backports
(http://backports.debian.org), but only versions available in testing
are considered (currently 5.14). If this is new enough for you you can
try writing a message to debian-backports (CCing the maintainers at
csound@p.d.o) and ask if someone is interested in providing and
maintaining a backport.

It helps if you can provide good reasons for the backport (e.g. what
important features the newer version brings compared to the one in
stable) or you are even prepared to do the backporting yourself.

Another option would be to try to install the version from testing (with
all possible problems) or even use testing completely.

Kind regards,
Andrei



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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[lina]

On Friday 06,January,2012 11:28 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:59:41 +0800, lina wrote:


On Friday 06,January,2012 10:44 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:27:31 +0800, lina wrote:


Hi,

(Lina, that html...)

oh ... it's a html?! How do you tell that? I checked the
edit->preference, can't find the set of plain text and html. okay, found
in Tools, It's used auto-detect ( I guess it's default), now changed to
plain text.

Thanks, much better (less garbagge) :-)


(And don't cross-post, or at least warns us about it...)

Oh, Now I understand why I was rejected by the other two lists:

Nope, it was rejected apparently because of the HTML.


Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

   linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org

Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your
message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend
contacting the other email provider for further information about the
cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550
550 5.7.1 Content-Policy reject msg: The message contains HTML subpart,
therefore we consider it SPAM or Outlook Virus.  TEXT/PLAIN is
accepted.! BF:; S933172Ab2AFOcH (state 18).

Clap, clap... (applauses).

What a good policy!! I also want it for this mailing list }:-)
Haha ... you do like those simple things. How do you set your icedove to 
set plain text always?
I need to manually changed it from Tools--> Format-->  in the present 
email-ing window.

Repeat the same steps you followed the first time, reload the b43
module and that should be all.

I did reload, and reboot.
just not work, so I guess I need do "clear" removal? (... I feel a bit
frustrated, lots of things, can't fix it, even something I did
before...)

Did you redo *exactly* and *at the same order* the steps what worked
before?
Yes, but before I had those installed, due to not working, so I just 
re-do those without wget part.


Now to practise the *exactly*, I just removed the directories and former 
downloaded .tar.gz

follow *exactly* again, reboot, not work?

does the ~$ uname -a
Linux dove 3.2.0-1-lina
fall behind the 3.2-rc6? I noticed the 3.2.0 is the latest in 
www.kernel.org.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/12/msg01112.html
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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:59:41 +0800, lina wrote:

> On Friday 06,January,2012 10:44 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:27:31 +0800, lina wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>> (Lina, that html...)

> oh ... it's a html?! How do you tell that? I checked the
> edit->preference, can't find the set of plain text and html. okay, found
> in Tools, It's used auto-detect ( I guess it's default), now changed to
> plain text.

Thanks, much better (less garbagge) :-)

>> (And don't cross-post, or at least warns us about it...)

> Oh, Now I understand why I was rejected by the other two lists:

Nope, it was rejected apparently because of the HTML.

> Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:
> 
>   linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org
> 
> Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your
> message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend
> contacting the other email provider for further information about the
> cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550
> 550 5.7.1 Content-Policy reject msg: The message contains HTML subpart,
> therefore we consider it SPAM or Outlook Virus.  TEXT/PLAIN is
> accepted.! BF:; S933172Ab2AFOcH (state 18).

Clap, clap... (applauses).

What a good policy!! I also want it for this mailing list }:-)

>> Repeat the same steps you followed the first time, reload the b43
>> module and that should be all.

> I did reload, and reboot.
> just not work, so I guess I need do "clear" removal? (... I feel a bit
> frustrated, lots of things, can't fix it, even something I did
> before...)

Did you redo *exactly* and *at the same order* the steps what worked 
before?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/12/msg01112.html

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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[lina]

On Friday 06,January,2012 10:44 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:27:31 +0800, lina wrote:


Hi,

(Lina, that html...)

oh ... it's a html?! How do you tell that?
I checked the edit->preference, can't find the set of plain text and html.
okay, found in Tools, It's used auto-detect ( I guess it's default), now 
changed to plain text.

(And don't cross-post, or at least warns us about it...)

Oh, Now I understand why I was rejected by the other two lists:

Delivery to the following recipient failed permanently:

 linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org

Technical details of permanent failure:
Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We 
recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause 
of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 5.7.1 
Content-Policy reject msg: The message contains HTML subpart, therefore we consider 
it SPAM or Outlook Virus.  TEXT/PLAIN is accepted.! BF:; S933172Ab2AFOcH 
(state 18).



a quick question, how to clear the b43?


a detailed background stories as following:


I installed the b43 following the advice given by list, mainly from
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43

it WORKED.

:-)


but yesterday I removed the old kernel 3.2-rc6, which is the one b43
worked, and installed the 3.2 from kernel.org. I guess it's latest, than
3.2-rc6 ?

(...)

Repeat the same steps you followed the first time, reload the b43 module
and that should be all.

I did reload, and reboot.
just not work, so I guess I need do "clear" removal?
(... I feel a bit frustrated, lots of things, can't fix it, even 
something I did before...)

Greetings,


Thanks,


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Re: how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:27:31 +0800, lina wrote:

> Hi,

(Lina, that html...)
(And don't cross-post, or at least warns us about it...)

> a quick question, how to clear the b43?
> 
> 
> a detailed background stories as following:
> 
> 
> I installed the b43 following the advice given by list, mainly from
> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
> 
> it WORKED.

:-)
 
> but yesterday I removed the old kernel 3.2-rc6, which is the one b43
> worked, and installed the 3.2 from kernel.org. I guess it's latest, than
> 3.2-rc6 ?

(...)

Repeat the same steps you followed the first time, reload the b43 module 
and that should be all.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 15:10:19 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Vi, 06 ian 12, 12:11:36, Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> Sure (this was also discussed in this same list, time ago...). The
>> possibility of jumping from Lenny to Wheezy was oficially mentioned
>> here:
>> 
>> Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
>> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html
>> 
>> And this announcement was not corrected nor modified afterwards (unless
>> I missed something), so I managed the installation on my Lenny systems
>> having in mind such statement which it finally turned out to be not
>> possible :-)
> 
> You probably missed
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00010.html
> 
> ,
> | In the light of these goals and also in consideration of the Debian |
> community's feedback to the release team's initial announcement during |
> the keynote of this year's DebConf in Caceres, Spain, the Release Team |
> has additionally decided to revisit its decision on December 2009 as the
> | proposed freeze date. A new timeline will be announced by the Debian |
> Release Team in early September.
> `

Yup, I did read it, but it does not say a word about the possibility of a 
direct jump (lenny → wheezy) nor if the first decission was going to be 
retired.

I think this kind of announcements and changes on project directions are 
important enough to get them properly addressed and communicated to the 
community.

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how to uninstall the b43 and reinstall

[lina]

Hi,

a quick question, how to clear the b43?


a detailed background stories as following:


I installed the b43 following the advice given by list,
mainly from
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43

it WORKED.

but yesterday I removed the old kernel 3.2-rc6, which is the one b43 worked,
and installed the 3.2 from kernel.org. I guess it's latest, than 3.2-rc6 ?

I don't know how to remove the b43 since the trial of
make uninstall in pathTo/b43-fwcutter-015 not work.

so I just did something like make install again, and then
1 
 
export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
2 
 
wget http://www.lwfinger.com/b43-firmware/broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
3 
 
tar xjf broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2
4 sudo b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" 
broadcom-wl-5.100.138/linux/wl_apsta.o


dmesg showed me:
[  127.434017] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[  127.704793] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4331 WLAN found (core revision 29)
[  127.704821] bcma: Switched to core: 0x812
[  127.705237] b43-phy0 ERROR: FOUND UNSUPPORTED PHY (Analog 9, Type 7, 
Revision 1)

[  127.705244] b43: probe of bcma0:0 failed with error -95
[  127.705260] Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMNLS ]
[  431.367724] applesmc: FS! : read arg fail

Thanks for any advice

Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 05:33:08 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:36:49 +0100, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> El 2012-01-04 a las 13:42 -0500, Tony Baldwin escribió:

(...)

>>> Why can't you use squeeze?
>>> --
>>> Sent from my Android phone with GMX Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>> 
>> Indeed, I do can, but I prefer to accomodate the span-life of the next
>> installation round to match the longest support cycle possible with the
>> less disturbances for me (admin) and my users :-)
> 
> I can't give up on Lenny entirely, because my scanner doesn't work with
> later kernels.

You can delay it but you'll have to solve that issue sooner or later... 
anyway, have you filled a bug for that?

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Re: resolving dependencies in aptitude

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 02:02:30PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
...
> Painfully aware.  I fled to xfce.  I may go back when it stabilizes.  In 
> the meantime, it's getting in the way of smooth upgrades.  I guess I 
> could uninstall gnome, but that seems drastic.

Hey, same here ... a refugeee user of xfce.

uninstalling gnome is becoming almost ritural for me for major upgrade.
Done that for several releases.  Aptitude makes it very easy.

Here is what you do with aptitude.
/^gnome$

Now you see gnome package.

Down to Depends and Recommends.
Press m to killl "A" markings for each.

Now you can remove gnome without having major issue.  Remove package as
you need.

Cheers,

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Andrei Popescu]

On Vi, 06 ian 12, 12:11:36, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> Sure (this was also discussed in this same list, time ago...). The 
> possibility of jumping from Lenny to Wheezy was oficially mentioned here:
> 
> Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html
> 
> And this announcement was not corrected nor modified afterwards (unless I 
> missed something), so I managed the installation on my Lenny systems 
> having in mind such statement which it finally turned out to be not 
> possible :-)

You probably missed 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg00010.html

,
| In the light of these goals and also in consideration of the Debian
| community's feedback to the release team's initial announcement during
| the keynote of this year's DebConf in Caceres, Spain, the Release Team
| has additionally decided to revisit its decision on December 2009 as the
| proposed freeze date. A new timeline will be announced by the Debian
| Release Team in early September.
`

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Re: Setting Postfix + Courier + Cyrus: cannot find user dir on authentication

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:14:06 +0100, Sergi Pons Freixes wrote:

> 2012/1/5 Camaleón :
>>
>> Sergi, "chdir Maildir: No such file or directory" message seems to mean
>> the server is trying to "go" to that directory and is not found,
>> because it does not exist.
>>
>>
> Yes, you're right. What puzzles me is that on /etc/courier/authmysqlrc I
> have specified:
> 
> MYSQL_HOME_FIELD"/home/vmail"
> 
> and
> 
> # This is an optional field, and can be used to specify an arbitrary 
> # location of the maildir for the account, which normally defaults to 
> # $HOME/Maildir (where $HOME is read from MYSQL_HOME_FIELD). 
> #
> # You still need to provide a MYSQL_HOME_FIELD, even if you uncomment this 
> # out.
> #
>  MYSQL_MAILDIR_FIELDmaildir
> 
> Being maildir a field on the database with the content: user@domain,
> therefore imapd should use /home/vmail/user@domain/ as Maildir . For
> some reason is ignoring it?

Sergi... as I see, "/Maildir" is a folder, it has to exist in your path 
or you have to configure Courier to look into another different place, 
which is not the case :-)

I can be wrong because I have not used Courier before, but this can be 
easily tried, just create a new "test" account at:

/home/vmail/Maildir/t...@cub3.net/

Restart the daemons, send a message to that account ("To: t...@cub3.net"), 
try to login and review the logs.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Scott Ferguson]

On 06/01/12 23:11, � wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:36:07 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> 
>> On Mi, 04 ian 12, 17:37:42, Camaleón wrote:
 
 No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012.
>>> 


> it came out the possibility of having release freeze periods and the
> above mentioned announcement lead me to think, in order to accomodate
> to the new release plan, as a exceptional measure, lenny users could
> jump to wheezy.
> 
> However, it is still unclear to me if we have now adopted such stable
>  release freeze cycle, because wheezy is expected to be freeze on
> June 2012 and not December 2012 (nor it was on December 2011) :-?
> 
> Greetings,
> 


See:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/06/msg02594.html



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Re: linux-source-3.2.0-rc7

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:16:12 +0800, lina wrote:

> On 6 Jan, 2012, at 1:51, Camaleón  wrote:

>> But you listed many different packages... which one did you finally
>> install?
> 
> I didn't choose any of them.
> (Ha... So many choices was equal no choice) That's why I was looking for
> the .deb already built in repository.

Mmm, okay. So you decided to manually get the package from another place. 

>>> I used to install the linux-header-version and linux-images-version,
>>> wrong?
>> 
>> Nothing wrong, but those packages (headers) are not needed unless you
>> specifically require them (for compiling things), so what was your goal
>> or just installing for the sake of installing? :-)
> 
> Yes. Haha.
> 
> I noticed after make-kpkg it generated the linux headers and images.
> (might due to I used some flags).  So I thought both are needed. So next
> time i will only install the headers?

I can't say... I also have a self-compiled kernel (like you) but at least 
until now I have not needed the headers files for nothing :-)

But again, kernel headers files have to match your exact kernel version 
(the kernel version for you want to have the headers, of course), 
otherwise it won't work.

>> I can't tell what to look because I don't know at what stage you
>> received the kernel panic (while booting, maybe?). Unless you provide
>> more data, I can only make "wild guesses".

> Yes.  After booting. Choose the newly built kernel.  It's just stopped. 
> I forget the detailed information and forget to take a photo.

Okay, so you were not able to boot with that kernel.

>> And what's your current situation? What packages have you installed?
>> Can you boot your system normally?

> I have old kernel 3.1. Things are back to fine if I don't make some new
> trouble. Tomorrow I guess I want to try to rebuild.

Mmm, good, I think.

> May I ask you something?

Of course.
 
> Are there some intelligent package, something like read the lspci and
> other hardware information. And according the info to vim the .config I
> don't have much hardware knowledge either, so can't build a specific and
> light kernel.  Last one I build the /lib/module so heavy.

This has been commented some times here, in this mailing list.

I opened a thread asking for the same. You can read the full thread to 
find out more tips but here are the conclusions:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/09/msg01903.html

The key was in using "localmodconfig" which allows to make what I call 
express ("compile&go") kernels very fast which can be useful to try a new 
driver or make some tests.

Stephen Powell has a very good and detailed doc about compiling kernels 
in Debian, it's worth reading:

http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm

>> Give detailed steps on what you are doing right now, what's the current
>> kernel you are running and what's wrong with it.
> 
> You are admirable SERIOUS. Which is something I miss in my life.  
> Haha... Inspiring.

Well, problems are just a bucnh of variables that need to be clearly 
identified and defined. I say this because most of the time (90%) we -
users- think we have a problem when what we really got is a bit of mess 
in our head :-)

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:36:07 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Mi, 04 ian 12, 17:37:42, Camaleón wrote:
>> > 
>> > No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012.
>> 
>> Yes, unfortunately Debian team changed their mind at the middle of the
>> proccess. This unforeseen change forces me to keep my lenny systems
>> until wheezy is released which means having unpatched servers and
>> workstations for months ;-(
> 
> Could you elaborate on the "change of mind"? 

Sure (this was also discussed in this same list, time ago...). The 
possibility of jumping from Lenny to Wheezy was oficially mentioned here:

Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/2009/msg9.html

And this announcement was not corrected nor modified afterwards (unless I 
missed something), so I managed the installation on my Lenny systems 
having in mind such statement which it finally turned out to be not 
possible :-)

> As far as I know (but can't find the reference right now) oldstable is 
> supported one year after a stable release or until the next release,
> whichever comes *first*[1].
> 
> [1] Since Debian has been releasing once about every 2 years this
> usually means oldstable is supported only one year after the release.

You mean this doc:

***
http://www.debian.org/security/faq.en.html#lifespan

Q: How long will security updates be provided?

A: The security team tries to support a stable distribution for about one 
year after the next stable distribution has been released, except when 
another stable distribution is released within this year. It is not 
possible to support three distributions; supporting two simultaneously is 
already difficult enough. 
***

Yes, I was also aware of that document at the time I decided to migrate 
from openSUSE to Debian. But -in the meantime- it came out the 
possibility of having release freeze periods and the above mentioned 
announcement lead me to think, in order to accomodate to the new release 
plan, as a exceptional measure, lenny users could jump to wheezy.

However, it is still unclear to me if we have now adopted such stable 
release freeze cycle, because wheezy is expected to be freeze on June 
2012 and not December 2012 (nor it was on December 2011) :-?

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Re: Screen resolution

[Andrew Wood]

You can tell by looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  If after looking at 
the log file, the problem isn't readily apparent, post the contents 
here, and someone should be able to figure out what's wrong.


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The pertinent contents of the log seem to be as follows. Im not sure how 
it works. It seems to probe the monitor to see what resolutions it 
supports. Should the controller board in the LCD therefore have a list 
of supported resolutions on it which it reports back to X?


Im using a controller board from LCDparts.net  They claim to have 
programmed it for this screen and that if it wasnt programmed correctly 
I wouldnt get any image at all and therefore its an OS problem but Im 
not convinced.


Thanks for all your help so far!

[   328.489] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   328.489] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[   328.489] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0)
[   328.489] (**) |   |-->Monitor ""
[   328.491] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[   328.491] (==) Automatically adding devices
[   328.491] (==) Automatically enabling devices

[some lines cut out]


[   328.761] (II) LoadModule: "fbdev"
[   328.763] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.so
[   328.815] (II) Module fbdev: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   328.815] compiled for 1.11.0, module version = 0.4.2
[   328.815] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[   328.816] (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: 
i810,

i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G,
965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45,
4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale,
Sandybridge Desktop (GT1), Sandybridge Desktop (GT2),
Sandybridge Desktop (GT2+), Sandybridge Mobile (GT1),
Sandybridge Mobile (GT2), Sandybridge Mobile (GT2+),
Sandybridge Server, Ivybridge Mobile (GT1), Ivybridge Mobile (GT2),
Ivybridge Desktop (GT1), Ivybridge Desktop (GT2), Ivybridge Server
[   328.824] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[   328.824] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[   328.824] (++) using VT number 7

[   328.911] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
[   328.912] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[   328.912] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[   328.912] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[   328.912] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[   328.913] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[   329.158] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[   329.158] compiled for 1.11.2.902, module version = 0.0.2
[   329.158] ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 11.0
[   329.159] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[   329.159] drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
[   329.159] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::00:02.0
[   329.159] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[   329.160] drmOpenDevice: open result is 9, (OK)
[   329.160] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 9
[   329.160] drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::00:02.0
[   329.160] (II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in 
Screen sectio

n
"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
[   329.160] (==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
[   329.160] (==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
[   329.160] (==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
[   329.161] (II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 945GME
[   329.161] (--) intel(0): Chipset: "945GME"
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): Relaxed fencing disabled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): Wait on SwapBuffers? enabled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): Triple buffering? enabled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): Framebuffer tiled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): Pixmaps tiled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): 3D buffers tiled
[   329.161] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled
[   329.162] (==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe
[   329.230] (II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section
[   329.247] (II) intel(0): Output DVI1 has no monitor section
[   329.610] (II) intel(0): Output TV1 has no monitor section
[   329.686] (II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1
[   329.686] (II) intel(0): Printing probed modes for output VGA1
[   329.686] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0   65.00  1024 1048 
1184 134

4  768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
[   329.687] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3   40.00  800 840 968 
1056  6

00 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
[   329.687] (II) intel(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2   36.00  800 824 896 
1024  6

00 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz)
[   329.687] (II) intel(0): Modeline "848x480"x60.0   33.75  848 864 976 
1088  4

80 486 494 517 +hsync +vsync (31.0 kHz)
[   329.687] (II) intel(0): Modeline "640x480"x59.9   25.18  640 656 752 
800  48

0 489 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5

Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Tom H]

On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Andrei Popescu  wrote:
> On Mi, 04 ian 12, 17:37:42, Camaleón wrote:
>> >
>> > No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012.
>>
>> Yes, unfortunately Debian team changed their mind at the middle of the
>> proccess. This unforeseen change forces me to keep my lenny systems until
>> wheezy is released which means having unpatched servers and workstations
>> for months ;-(
>
> Could you elaborate on the "change of mind"? As far as I know (but can't
> find the reference right now) oldstable is supported one year after a
> stable release or until the next release, whichever comes *first*[1].

+1; woody, etch, and sarge followed the same schedule.


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Re: Installing 32bit Printer Drivers on Debian Stable amd64

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 23:16:51 -1100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote:

> I install the base Debian system, then X and my desktop which is Window
> Maker and the GNUStep environment. Now I need to get my Canon iP4700
> printer set up.
>
> I found the drivers as a .deb package on Canon's website. Can't install
> them because of the architecture incompatibility. However, I have read a
> number of articles and earlier forum posts where people have done this
> but they all seem to be related to Ubuntu. 

For this there are some hints over Internet:

canon ip4700 printer/driver problem on 64bit karmic
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1408300

> I have also read this article: 
> http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/531 
> which explains about using 32 libraries to overcome this type of problem.

That method will sucedded depending on the packaging. If Canon packagers did
count on the possibility of installing the required 32-bits libraries so the 
driver could be installed over 64-bits systems, then the installer will ask 
for any dependency. I'm not sure this is an option for Canon drivers, though.

> Before I do, though, I just wonder if someone could advise if this is
> the right way forward; will it work basically? Has anyone else installed
> this printer on the 64bit Debian version?

I would try (and then buy should they work) the Turboprint drivers which seems 
to support your printer model (although just the printing function):

http://www.zedonet.com/en_p_turboprint_driver.phtml?printer=Canon_PIXMA_iP4700

Nex time, buy an HP multifunction (or another branded linux compatible) device 
and ensure it is supported directly by manufacturer's driver :-P

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Re: Is there a separate Debian PowerPC list?

[Raf Czlonka]

On Fri, Jan 06, 2012 at 09:29:06AM GMT, Jeff Gordon wrote:
> Hi, Folks --
> 
> Along with my normal 'work' computer, I've also installed Debian on my old
> iBook laptop (PowerPC) where some different problems apply.  Is there a
> separate list for Debian on PowerPC or is this the one for that?  (I checked
> the listing of mail lists at Debian, didn't see a separate one there.)

Amongst other platforms I'm running Debian on PowerPC - iBook G4 is my
main machine.
What sort of problems are you experiencing?

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Re: Screen resolution

[Andrei Popescu]

On Vi, 06 ian 12, 02:31:17, Andrew Wood wrote:
> Hi Kevin
> 
> 
> yes the xserver-xorg-video-intel package is installed. how do i
> check which driver is actually being used? one strange thing is that
> the kernel is printing out the following to the console, not sure
> what it means, could it be a fault with the controller board in the
> LCD?

I've had issues with EDID in the past when using too long monitor cable. 
Try using a short and known-good cable. If this doesn't work either you 
can try replacing/fixing the monitor (it helps if it is still under 
warranty) or just hardcode the monitor capabilities in xorg.conf (you 
will need some specs out of the user manual or the internet).

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Re: Csound5.15 ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 05 ian 12, 16:23:52, PMA wrote:
> Hi List.
> 
> I see the Csound .deb is at version 5.12.
> Is an upgrade to 5.15 projected?
> 
> Thanks,
> PMA

Hi PMA,

The only method for Debian stable to get newer versions is via backports 
(http://backports.debian.org), but only versions available in testing 
are considered (currently 5.14). If this is new enough for you you can 
try writing a message to debian-backports (CCing the maintainers at 
csound@p.d.o) and ask if someone is interested in providing and 
maintaining a backport.

It helps if you can provide good reasons for the backport (e.g. what 
important features the newer version brings compared to the one in 
stable) or you are even prepared to do the backporting yourself.

Another option would be to try to install the version from testing (with 
all possible problems) or even use testing completely.

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Re: Removing debian from hdd

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 05 ian 12, 15:05:58, Guido Martínez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I recently borrowed a hard drive and installed debian on it, alongside
> windows. I used it for a couple of weeks.
> 
> Later, I tried to remove debian by deleting the partitions I had installed
> it on, but that caused grub to fail horribly, and I had to reinstall debian.
> How can I remove debian? Can I make grub ignore that partition and then
> delete it?

I've had to restore the Windows (XP) MBR before. I have successfully 
used the ms-sys program, included on several rescue CDs. Just make sure 
you use a version recent enough for the Windows version you need to 
restore.

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Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mi, 04 ian 12, 17:37:42, Camaleón wrote:
> > 
> > No new Lenny updates after 6 February 2012.
> 
> Yes, unfortunately Debian team changed their mind at the middle of the 
> proccess. This unforeseen change forces me to keep my lenny systems until 
> wheezy is released which means having unpatched servers and workstations 
> for months ;-(

Could you elaborate on the "change of mind"? As far as I know (but can't 
find the reference right now) oldstable is supported one year after a 
stable release or until the next release, whichever comes *first*[1].

[1] Since Debian has been releasing once about every 2 years this 
usually means oldstable is supported only one year after the release.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Installing 32bit Printer Drivers on Debian Stable amd64

[Jamie Paul Griffin]

Hi

I install the base Debian system, then X and my desktop which is 
Window Maker and the GNUStep environment. Now I need to get my Canon 
iP4700 printer set up.


I found the drivers as a .deb package on Canon's website. Can't 
install them because of the architecture incompatibility. However, I 
have read a number of articles and earlier forum posts where people 
have done this but they all seem to be related to Ubuntu. I have also 
read this article: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/531 
which explains about using 32 libraries to overcome this type of 
problem. Before I do, though, I just wonder if someone could advise if 
this is the right way forward; will it work basically? Has anyone else 
installed this printer on the 64bit Debian version?


Any advise appreciated.

Jamie


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Re: OT: .ape decompression.

[Sthu Deus]

Thank You for Your time and answer, Darac:

>> Do You know how I can get exit status on mplayer2 operation:
>
>Check the contents of the $? variable immediately after executing
>mplayer2. The convention is that 0 means success and >0 means error.

Actually, I run it from a perl script, checking for the variable (it is
the same as in bash), it shows me zero - that is OK, but it is not so,
and I think mplayer2 supposes in case is was plaied OK, than exit
status OK too - regardless of writing failure.

Same situation w/ bash:

mplayer2 -nolirc -vo null -vc dummy -cache 4096 -cache-min 30 -ao
pcm:waveheader:file=./1.wav *.m4a; echo $?

It shows zero. And plays whole the file.

May Yoo know how to make mplayer2 to show tag info only and exit? - In
that case I can decompress w/ mac - for it returns correct exit status.

>> Another question, I have mac command from monkeys-audio that can do
>> the same, but how do I fetch tag info from the input file?
>
>Try pacpl . "pacpl
>--to flac YourFile.ape", for example, should convert the file while
>preserving the tagging information.

Well. I do not need that. I just want to decompress w/ exit status
available - whether it was written correctly or not, and to fetch
available tag info.


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[Cleared up] Wheezy update wrecks MC graphics?

[Jeff Gordon]

On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 04:36:39PM -0500, Jeff Gordon wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 02:43:05PM +0100, godo wrote:
> > 
> > >Thanks, Goran.  I don't know how to explain it -- my MC has been fine for
> > >a long time, then suddenly this change. (?)
> > >
> > In /usr/share/mc/skins/ are MC skins.
> > In attachment is default skin try to change it.
> > Is it your skin same or you have some other weird symbols?
> 
> Thanks again. :-)  My default.ini is the same -- but I'm seeing weird symbols,
> in my copy and in yours, which probably means something's change in how my
> console is displaying these things rather than a change to MC itself:
> 
> lefttop= looks like a trumpet turned sideways
> righttop= lower-case letter I with a mark over it
> centertop=─ (compressed equals sign with vertical line through it)
> centerbottom=─ (same as cerntertop)
> leftbottom=└ (a dash, not a corner)
> rightbottom= lower-case letter Y with a mark over it
> leftmiddle=├ (looks like a superscript L, or lower-left corner)
> rightmiddle= lower-case letter A with a mark over it
> centermiddle= solid rectangle
> horiz=─ (same as centertop)
> vert= lower-case letter A with a mark over it
> thinhoriz=─ (same as centertop)
> thinvert= lower-case letter A with a mark over it

No idea what it was all about, but this problem cleared up with the
next update run.  Go figure. :-)

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Re: wget y javascript

[Juan Sierra Pons]

El día 6 de enero de 2012 07:49, rantis cares  escribió:
> Listeros:
>
> Espero que esten comenzando bien este año 2012.
>
> ¿Existe alguna manera de descargar archivos pdf de una web, que son
> filtrados mediante javascript?.
>
> Antecedentes:
>
> Anteriormente entraba yo a una web en donde estaban alojados unos pdfs
> (miles). Logre bajarlos con wget, sin embargo (yo creo que se dieron
> cuenta de lo que hice) y cambiaron su manera de mostrar dichos
> archivos. Ahora no estan a la vista y para acceder a ellos solo lo
> puedo hacer mediante el explorador y dando clicks para descargarlos.
>
> Wget ya no funciona para esto, he revisado algunos post y confirman lo
> que yo temia.
>
> ¿Alguna idea para hacer descargarmelas de modo automatico?.
>
> Gracias
>
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> crece en proporcion inversa a la ignorancia generada. Gracias
> Linuxeros"
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Hola

Alguna vez que me he encontrado en una situación parecida y no me ha
quedado mas remedio que "parsear" codigo:

1.-leer el html+javascript
2.-buscar un patron del nombre del fichero que quieres descargar
3.-Una vez localizado el patron generarlo desde fuera, por ejemplo con
un script hecho en Bash, Python, Perl, etc
4.-Lanzar el wget con la ruta generada en el punto anterior

Sin ver la pagina es difícil contestarte algo mas especifico.

Salu2

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Re: Is there a separate Debian PowerPC list?

[Frank Lanitz]

Am 06.01.2012 10:29, schrieb Jeff Gordon:

> Along with my normal 'work' computer, I've also installed Debian on my old
> iBook laptop (PowerPC) where some different problems apply.  Is there a
> separate list for Debian on PowerPC or is this the one for that?  (I checked
> the listing of mail lists at Debian, didn't see a separate one there.)

I think
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/
is the right place.

Cheers,
Frank


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Is there a separate Debian PowerPC list?

[Jeff Gordon]

Hi, Folks --

Along with my normal 'work' computer, I've also installed Debian on my old
iBook laptop (PowerPC) where some different problems apply.  Is there a
separate list for Debian on PowerPC or is this the one for that?  (I checked
the listing of mail lists at Debian, didn't see a separate one there.)

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Re: PHP5 scripts not served by apache2 on Squeeze

[Kristian Lampen]

Am 06.01.2012 um 00:33 schrieb Bob Proulx:

> Kristian Lampen wrote:
>> I have a fresh install of apache2 and php on my server and I can not
>> get php to work, php-scripts are not executed by apache, just the
>> plain script is served to the browser.
>> ...
>> I have the following packages installed:
>> ...
>> libapache2-mod-php5
> 
> This should work out of the box by default.  Since it isn't working
> for you then it must be a local modification somewhere.  
> 
> This is where it really helps if you have a second machine that you
> can play on.  Because then you will install apache2 and
> libapache2-mod-php5 on this second machine and you will find that
> everything works fine out of the box.  Then you will compare the two
> systems and find what is different about the broken one.
> 
> The "magic" included in libapache2-mod-php5 is:
> 
> /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf
> 
> That file includes the needed configuration.  Your message included
> all of the right debugging to show that it was installed and enabled
> okay.  So it should be working at that point.
> 
>> Now I have a PHP Test file:
>> 
>> root@server:~# echo "" > /var/www/test.php
> 
> Yes.  Looks good.
> 
>> root@server:~# chmod 755 /var/www/test.php
> 
> No.  PHP files should not be executable.  That is actually a little
> dangerous because if you were to actually try to execute them then the
> result with your shell could be "interesting" in the curse sense of
> that word.
> 
>> A simple purge of all related packages and reinstalling changes nothing.
> 
> Darn.  I hate it when that happens.
> 
>> I hope this problem is solved already, but I have not found any solution yet.
>> 
>> What have I or the server done wrong?
> 
> I have no idea.  All I can reinforce is that it should be working out
> of the box based upon the configurationn installed in the php5.conf file.
> 
> You didn't by any chance delete this line from the
> /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file did you?
> 
> Include mods-enabled/*.conf
> 
> That is what loads all of the snippets.  If you were to do something
> such as having replaced that file with one from a different system
> then it would be missing a lot of needed configuration.
> 
> Bob

OK,

it is working now on my machine.

The only thing I did is installing the package php-pear, it was not before. 
Because I had not a dependency conflict, I thought it is not needed!?

Thanks for all help

Kristian

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