Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 31/01/12 17:42, Chen Wei wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:37:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>> gmail is still the most popular free mail service,
>> I use it myself - I'm not sure what 'your' point is
> sorry, I mean most popular choice in this list.

Agreed - that it's probably (the "statistics" are ambiguous, but
correspond with my "beliefs") the most
popular public mail server *and* webmail interface.



> I like gmail, but 'skip inbox' is hardly a mailing list friendly
> feature when not using the web interface.

Agreed - but it's not our call. It's Google's. I've pointed out their
reasoning, and they've little reason to change that policy.

Note that it applies to the web interface too. I've yet to check other
free webmail accounts to see if they are different.

> Once I sent several copies of the same message to the list in 2 days,
> not aware this unique gmail feature. And verify the send status from
> list archive might be difficult because the archive is blocked in
> certain part of this planet.

It's a common problem (the whole world over, the archive is now only
available when using the webmail interface to backup your entire gmail
account AFAIK). At this point all I/we/you can do is add a warning to
the wiki, which maybe, if people take the time to read it, might reduce
the number of people in the same situation.

Note: that many people don't even bother to subscribe to the mailing
list and just use third party new2email gateways (Debian has it's own
news gateway) so they don't even read any of the list posting guidelines
or associated documentation.

> 
>> Noted I'll add documentation for gmx to the wiki on the weekend
>> (time permitting).

I've a list of several dozen email clients, most of which I haven't even
covered for plain text posting yet.

> It might be helpful to add the gmail feature to the wiki as well, if
> its not there.

So far I've just added Howto use Plain text (for a small selection of
email user agents).
Listing all the configurations for all the "desirable" capabilities of a
Mail User Agent, for all clients whilst keeping the wiki page shorter
than "War and Peace" isn't easy.

The short version is that I've yet to find any webmail interface, free
or paid, that fulfills all the minimum features of a list-friendly mail
user agent.

In line with Debian policy it's not appropriate to dictate which client
or server people chose to use to post to, or receive mail from the list.
Even recommendations should be carefully qualified.

This whole subject has been discussed off-list recently, hopefully
you'll see some more information over the next week - preferably in an
quickly and easily digestible form ;-)

> 
>> 
>>> statistic from 18K debian-user messages: Among 1514 users posted
>>> to the list gmail.com 535 35.3% | yahoo.com 23
>>> 1.5% | debian.org 21  1.4% | gmx.de 20  1.3% |
>>> mail.ru 18 1.2% | hotmail.com
>> 
>> I'm not sure what those "statistics" mean. Are they all
>> webmailers? Do they only represent mail sent from the webmail
>> interface?  What are the majority of posters using (the missing
>> numbers), and what is the new/email split?  Do those figures allow
>> for gateways (ie. google groups, new generation, gmane, and
>> others)?
> they are parsed from the maildir files I received in past few
> months. The statistics represents all users who had sent mail to the
> list, regardless their MUAs. The invisible majority posters probably
> use work or ISP mail address but I am not sure.

The statistics presented represent only around 8% of the sample and
even then don't appear to be reliable - I'll have a look over your
script though (thanks), I'm sure we can scrape a little deeper :-)
I've previously done a cursory sample from a much larger amount of email
and come up with rather different results...

The actual mail server can be determined from the IP address, the mail
client from the MUA string (in a majority of cases), third party
gateways (identifiable by the IP address) do a certain amount of
obscuring of the originating mail/news server and news/email client.

> 
> 
> News/Mail preference of total 18145 messages: email
> 14646 80.7% | Gmane3327 18.3% | Misc-NNTP
> 118  0.7% | Google Group   31  0.2% | albasani.net
> 23  0.1% |
> 
> News/Mail preference of 1518 users email1419
> 93.5% | Gmane  74  4.9% | Misc-NNTP
> 14  0.9% | Google Group8  0.5% | albasani.net
> 3  0.2% |
> 
> 
> 

Do you have any figure for point of origin ie. of gmane, google groups
and (you don't appear to have covered New Generation and Bob's
favourite, Nabble) what percentage used the gateway's web interface?

I'd like to do a more thorough analysis including a breakdown of the
correlation between non-plain text and broken thread posts - so we can
better target the problem areas for the list and it's readers, as well
as the problems for posters.


Inter

Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Chen Wei
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 08:37:00AM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> > gmail is still the most popular free mail service,
> I use it myself - I'm not sure what 'your' point is
sorry, I mean most popular choice in this list.

> I note that many (*cough*BP,PE*cough*) will recommend you *don't* use
> gmail (I simply recommend you use a fine MUA like Icedove, Mutt,
> Evolution, Kmail etc with the mail server of your choice).
I like gmail, but 'skip inbox' is hardly a mailing list friendly feature
when not using the web interface. Once I sent several copies of the same
message to the list in 2 days, not aware this unique gmail feature. And
verify the send status from list archive might be difficult because the
archive is blocked in certain part of this planet.

> Noted I'll add documentation for gmx to the wiki on the weekend (time
> permitting).
It might be helpful to add the gmail feature to the wiki as well, if its
not there.

> 
> > statistic from 18K debian-user messages: Among 1514 users posted to
> > the list gmail.com 535 35.3% | yahoo.com 23  1.5% |
> > debian.org 21  1.4% | gmx.de 20  1.3% | mail.ru 18
> > 1.2% | hotmail.com
> 
> I'm not sure what those "statistics" mean. Are they all webmailers?
> Do they only represent mail sent from the webmail interface?  What are
> the majority of posters using (the missing numbers), and what is the
> new/email split?  Do those figures allow for gateways (ie. google
> groups, new generation, gmane, and others)?
they are parsed from the maildir files I received in past few months.
The statistics represents all users who had sent mail to the list,
regardless their MUAs. The invisible majority posters probably use work
or ISP mail address but I am not sure. 


News/Mail preference of total 18145 messages:
email   14646 80.7% | 
Gmane3327 18.3% | 
Misc-NNTP 118  0.7% | 
Google Group   31  0.2% | 
albasani.net   23  0.1% | 

News/Mail preference of 1518 users
email1419 93.5% | 
Gmane  74  4.9% | 
Misc-NNTP  14  0.9% | 
Google Group8  0.5% | 
albasani.net3  0.2% | 



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Re: debian losing usb detection after guest OS sees a USB device in virtualbox

2012-01-30 Thread H.S.
On 29/01/12 09:07 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> 
> Clear the VirtualBox log, reset all warnings, then retry. Then post the
> log to paste.debian.net and post a link here.

Nothing much in the logs. I get the following errors though:
00:00:12.331 nspr-2   ERROR [COM]: aRC=VBOX_E_INVALID_VM_STATE
(0x80bb0002) aIID={5eaa9319-62fc-4b0a-843c-0cb1940f8a91}
aComponent={Machine} aText={Machine is not locked for session (session
state: Unlocked)}, preserve=false
00:00:12.722 nspr-2   ERROR [COM]: aRC=VBOX_E_IPRT_ERROR (0x80bb0005)
aIID={5eaa9319-62fc-4b0a-843c-0cb1940f8a91} aComponent={SessionMachine}
aText={Saved screenshot data is not available (VERR_NOT_SUPPORTED)},
preserve=false


Also noteworthy, I am getting the following file not found error during
booting of the machine:
/usr/share/virtualbox/VBoxCreateUSBNode.sh


>>
>> BTW, I have, since yesterday, virtualization enabled on my machine (amd
>> machine, it is called AMD-V in it?). Is this necessary?
>>
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean by "virtualization enabled".

I have an AMD64 mobo and its manual states it as "Secure Virtual Machine
Mode" and I have enabled it in the BIOS.




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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Cam Hutchison
lina  writes:

>Yes. the ultimate goal is:

>for i in {0..108}
>do
>cat A_$i.txt B_$i.txt C_$i.txt -o ABC_$i.txt  (output as ABC_$i.txt)
>done

>but here I wish to use only 8 processors at most, total is 16.
>the administrator of the cluster asked me not to use whole, cause
>someone else needs SMP server.

seq 0 108 | xargs -I@ -P8 cat A_@.txt B_@.txt C_@.txt -o ABC_@.txt

Most people use the character sequence {} where I have used @. I find @
to be simpler to type, so I use that instead.

I don't think you need -n1 in this case as it is somewhat implied by the
use of -I.


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Recent Debian Preseed Error: "Logical Volume Manager not available"

2012-01-30 Thread Chris Hiestand
I've had a stable, working, preseed configuration with no changes other than 
downloading the latest stable debian releases (netboot images). Suddenly 
partman has stopped working in my preseed:

> Loading additiona components …100%
> Starting up the partitioner …100%
> Partition disks
> ---
> 
> !! ERROR: Logical Volume Manager not available
> 
> The current kernel doesn't support the Logical Volume Manager. You may need 
> to load the lvm-mod module.


I'm not even creating an LVM-managed partition, just a basic one:

> d-i partman-partitioning/confirm_write_new_label boolean true
> d-i partman/choose_partition select finish
> d-i partman/confirm boolean true
> d-i partman/confirm_nooverwrite boolean true
> 
> d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
> d-i partman-md/device_remove_md boolean true
> 
> d-i partman/mount_style select uuid
> d-i partman/default_filesystem string ext4
> 
> partman-auto partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
> partman-auto partman-auto/init_automatically_partition \
>   select Guided - use the entire disk
> partman-auto partman-auto/method string regular


Did the new kernel release drop LVM support, despite being required by preseed 
partman? Is anyone else having this problem?

Other info:
*Running partman on the busybox command line yields the same message
*Running 'modprobe lvm-mod' on the busybox CLI yields "FATAL: Module lvm_mod 
not found" - there is no such module in the modules subdirectories.

Thanks,
Chris

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Re (4): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

2012-01-30 Thread peasthope
From:   Brian 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:38:10 +
> What was on the command line? Or in the link if you were clicking on one.

This is my limited understanding.

In message http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02236.html
the first "Reply-to" link has this HTML code.
  mailto:debian-user@lists.debian.org?In-Reply-To=<171057406.47014.38985@heaviside.invalid>&Subject=Re:%20Re
 (2): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt">debian-user@lists.debian.org

When viewing the page in Iceweasel, a click on the link invokes mailto-mutt 
with 
arguments containing header information.  mailto-mutt attempts to set up the 
message for mutt in Nano.  If you open 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02236.html
and click on the Reply-to link the process might work correctly.  I get this.

To: w.ca;/usr/lib/mutt/mailto-m...@joule.shaw.ca, debian-user@lists.debian.org

Obviously the first address is broken.  debian-user@... is right.  I don't 
understand 
the invokation of mailto-mutt well enough to perceive what is going wrong.  Is 
the problem in iceweasel or in mailto-mutt or in the perl script?  

Astonishing convolutions just to make an email and I need to look deeper.

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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20120130_223623, Jochen Spieker wrote:
> lina:
> > 
> > Yes. the ultimate goal is:
> > 
> > for i in {0..108}
> > do
> > cat A_$i.txt B_$i.txt C_$i.txt -o ABC_$i.txt  (output as ABC_$i.txt)
> > done
> 
> Ok, so you don't actually have only A_$i filenames, but B_$i and C_$i as
> well. That alone makes my previous approach useless (as I predicted!).
> The other problem is that you need to redirect output (cat doesn't have
> an -o option). This makes things a little bit tricky. The best way to
> deal with both problems is probably to make xargs spawn a new shell
> which receives the current number as positional argument ($1) and uses
> it in multiple places:
> 
> $ cat A_1.txt B_1.txt C_1.txt 
> a1
> b1
> c1
> 
> $ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P8 -I{} sh -c \
> 'cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt"' -- '{}'
> sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 1 
> sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 2 
> sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 3 
> 
> $ cat ABC_1.txt 
> a1
> b1
> c1
> 
> This should be quite robust when encountering whitespace in filenames as
> well.
> 
> > but here I wish to use only 8 processors at most, total is 16.
> > the administrator of the cluster asked me not to use whole, cause
> > someone else needs SMP server.
> 
> Are you sure that your task is CPU-bound? Reading and writing files is 
> most probably limited by your storage. Or is cat just another example?
> 
> As a sidenote: it took me quite some time to find this solution. I only
> made this effort because I was interested in the solution myself. In the
> future, you should try to present the whole problem upfront or otherwise
> people might get frustrated trying to help you while you keep changing
> the problem. And please trim your quotes more thoroughly.

If I recall correctly, the original for-loop over 108 values contained
a command that ended in an ampersand.

I think bash offers an option to the jobs builtin that causes it to
emit a report of running background jobs. You can combine that with
wc -l to get a count of the number or running jobs. Test this against
your desired upper limit of running background jobs inside a wait loop.
place this loop before the done that ends the main loop over the 108.
This wait loop with keep the code from going on to the next $i value
if there are already enough jobs running to suit your fancy.

Bash has a massive man page. the options for the jobs builtin are in
there somewhere. Bash also has a wait builtin which doesn't do what
you want. Wait command waits for all running jobs to complete. 

HTH

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Re: Re (3): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

2012-01-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jan 2012 at 13:16:32 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> Now the termial opens with this message.
> "Error in command line: invalid header field
> Press any key to continue..."

What was on the command line? Or in the link if you were clicking on one.


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kernel failure message 1: nel pagin request at.....

2012-01-30 Thread daniel sosa lena

Hi ppl, new debian user here with squeeze stable release.
I would like to understand what does this mean:

Kernel failure message 1: nel paging request at 00010153 IP: 
[<00010153>] 0x10153 PGD 1ecd79067 PUD 0  Oops: 0010 [#2] SMP 
and a long list of stuff. It prompted asking to send a message to developers 
and I did, not knowing that I would loose te whole text to copy it all here. 
What I copy is what I pasted in google to find if it was a known issue and it 
gave me no answer.

Is it bad?
Thank you,
Daniel
  

Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

2012-01-30 Thread Wayne Topa

On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:02:16 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:


On 01/22/2012 04:11 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:

On 01/22/2012 12:14 PM, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


my Print/)Options Tab is missing the print selections here on wheezy
and ISTR it is missing on Stable&  Sid here as well. I will have to
check that again though.




Print/Options Print Selections is still missing


You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the
missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new
profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a
bug report at Debian BTS.



The Print Selection is also missing in the nightly build of FireFox and 
Aurora.


So it seems to NOT be an iceweasel problem but something else.  Now to 
find out what that something is.


Isn't linux fun!

Thanks again Camaleon

Wayne


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 31/01/12 02:34, Andreas Glaeser wrote:
> First I had some problems with gmane finding the my thread, the I tried to 
> reply through
> gmane, but now I found that my answer was not there, although the system told 
> me, that
> sending seems to have been done correctly.
> When I think of it now this must be the most insecure thing ever, as only my 
> name and
> e-mail address were required, and no authentication at all took place, except 
> some
> pseudo-captcha. Do you really rely on people not to abuse this hole ? Or does 
> it just
> look like a security hole to me in review ?


Gmane has nothing to do with Debian. Likewise Google Groups, New
Generation and various other self-appointed "gateways".

Consider subscribing to the debian mailing lists directly instead of
using an unassociated third party.  Gmane offers no advantages over
directly subscribing to the list, and all the disadvantages.

Dealing directly with the lists will, amongst other benefits, prevent
this breaking of threads that makes it harder for everyone.

> Installing 'linux-source-3.2' and building it worked just fine, it is running 
> just fine
> now, too, useless to say, that there was no configuration necessary prior to 
> building the
> kernel-package, all the settings were already made.
> Configuration-files cleaned now, 'aptitude update' issued, but still:
> andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-show-versions -u
> nfs-common/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2 to 
> 1:1.2.4-1~bpo60+1
> xserver-xephyr/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 2:1.7.7-14 to 
> 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
> xserver-xorg-core/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 2:1.7.7-14 to 
> 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
> andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-cache policy nfs-common
> nfs-common:



What do you get from:-
# apt-get -sf install

>From your previous post:-

Consider pinning Debian Multimedia below Squeeze eg:-
Package: *
Pin: release o=Debian,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Debian
Pin-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release v=6.0,o=Unofficial Multimedia
Packages,a=stable,n=squeeze,l=Unof
ficial Multimedia Packages
Pin-Priority: 200

That way you'll only get from Multimedia what you can't get from the
Main Debian repositories - and suffer less problems.



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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 31/01/12 00:44, Chen Wei wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 08:40:23PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> NOTE: it is very, very rare for your posts to the list not to be
>> published.
>> 
>> You can set up a separate free webmail account and use it as the
>> replyto address in emails to the list from your gmail account, then
>> set up forwarding from that account to your gmail account.
>> 
>> You can set up your own email server, or purchase an email service 
>> somewhere. I don't know if other free webmail services display
>> list posting either - perhaps other users can advise.


> gmail is still the most popular free mail service,

I use it myself - I'm not sure what 'your' point is
When you post to the list you, along with the other subscribers, are
sent a copy. So the "problem" (and I'm not convinced there is one) is
with gmail, not Debian. And there's nothing Debian can do about your
choice of MUA or smtp provider.
I note that many (*cough*BP,PE*cough*) will recommend you *don't* use
gmail (I simply recommend you use a fine MUA like Icedove, Mutt,
Evolution, Kmail etc with the mail server of your choice).

You can try lobbying Google, but if you understand the distributed
nature of the their system you'll appreciate their desire to avoid the
additional costs involved in allowing your (common) request.
Don't expect gmail to change that policy of not forwarding email to your
Inbox that have identical subject lines and body contents to emails
you've sent.

> followed by gmx. gmx works well with mailing list, it also support
> SMTP & IMAP.

Noted I'll add documentation for gmx to the wiki on the weekend (time
permitting).

> 
> statistic from 18K debian-user messages: Among 1514 users posted to
> the list gmail.com 535 35.3% | yahoo.com
> 23  1.5% | debian.org 21  1.4% | gmx.de
> 20  1.3% | mail.ru18  1.2% | hotmail.com
> 17  1.1% | googlemail.com 17  1.1% | web.de
> 11  0.7% | verizon.net10  0.7% | free.fr
> 10  0.7% | yahoo.fr8  0.5% | gmx.net
> 7  0.5% | onlineprintsystems.com  6  0.4% | comcast.net
> 6  0.4% | yahoo.it5  0.3% | lavabit.com
> 5  0.3% | iki.fi  5  0.3% | att.net
> 5  0.3% | pobox.com   4  0.3% | gmx.com
> 4  0.3% |
> 
> 

Interesting.

I'm not sure what those "statistics" mean. Are they all webmailers?
Do they only represent mail sent from the webmail interface?
What are the majority of posters using (the missing numbers), and what
is the new/email split?
Do those figures allow for gateways (ie. google groups, new generation,
gmane, and others)?

Thanks for taking the time to post in plain text.


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
lina:
> 
> Yes. the ultimate goal is:
> 
> for i in {0..108}
> do
> cat A_$i.txt B_$i.txt C_$i.txt -o ABC_$i.txt  (output as ABC_$i.txt)
> done

Ok, so you don't actually have only A_$i filenames, but B_$i and C_$i as
well. That alone makes my previous approach useless (as I predicted!).
The other problem is that you need to redirect output (cat doesn't have
an -o option). This makes things a little bit tricky. The best way to
deal with both problems is probably to make xargs spawn a new shell
which receives the current number as positional argument ($1) and uses
it in multiple places:

$ cat A_1.txt B_1.txt C_1.txt 
a1
b1
c1

$ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P8 -I{} sh -c \
'cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt"' -- '{}'
sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 1 
sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 2 
sh -c cat "A_$1.txt" "B_$1.txt" "C_$1.txt" > "ABC_$1.txt" -- 3 

$ cat ABC_1.txt 
a1
b1
c1

This should be quite robust when encountering whitespace in filenames as
well.

> but here I wish to use only 8 processors at most, total is 16.
> the administrator of the cluster asked me not to use whole, cause
> someone else needs SMP server.

Are you sure that your task is CPU-bound? Reading and writing files is 
most probably limited by your storage. Or is cat just another example?

As a sidenote: it took me quite some time to find this solution. I only
made this effort because I was interested in the solution myself. In the
future, you should try to present the whole problem upfront or otherwise
people might get frustrated trying to help you while you keep changing
the problem. And please trim your quotes more thoroughly.

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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-30, Kelly Clowers  wrote:
>>
>> By the way, what's a standard keyboard?  Is that a well-defined thing?
>> Is it Ammurukin?
>
> Yes, he actually said "standard US keyboard". Which does not have
> an AltGr key, unlike every civilized country .
>

Okay, I finally understood the question!

http://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/xorg-using-the-us-international-altgr-intl-variant-keyboard-layout/


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Re (3): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

2012-01-30 Thread peasthope
From:   Brian 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:02:17 +
> Install liburi-perl

Thanks!  One problem solved!  
(mutt and perl are installed and liburi-perl isn't installed by dependency?)

Now the termial opens with this message.
"Error in command line: invalid header field
Press any key to continue..."

A key press empties the terminal viewer except for this in 
the last line.
To: w.ca;/usr/lib/mutt/mailto-m...@joule.shaw.ca, debian-user@lists.debian.org

 again gives "Subject: Re:".
 again opens Nano, for the message body I guess.

The header isn't processed properly.  All works properly for everyone else?  
Maybe I broke something in the confusion.

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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 23:26, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:05:07 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
>> On 30/01/12 22:50, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:03:24 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>
 On 30/01/12 20:48, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>
>> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. 
> 
> Aha, so in this case the new lcdproc version and it's dependencies work 
> with the libraries from squeeze and that's why there's no need to have it 
> in the backports?

Consider your theory tested and proven!  Though I'd consider factoring
your backported kernel into the hypothesis
 :-)

> I thought it would just be to allow stupid users like me to use newer 
> packages :-)
> But the longer I use Debian the longer I get the idea that there aren't 
> any stupid users supposed to use Debian at all ;-)

No, no - not a requirement, but it helps (with all things).
Stupid is ignorance - a curable condition that doesn't require a doctor.
Dedicated, feed me I'm lazy, do my homework for me, stupidity is a
different thing
Debian is about choices - lot's of them, and even with the best decision
matrixes it would still require a certain non-dedication to stupidity to
pick the appropriate Debian to use. Then there's configuring, feeding
and maintaining the chosen Debain... I'd suggest that a willingness to
read, think, and carefully experiment, inquire, rinse and repeat, is
more useful than a lack of stupid. Lack of stupid is just a side-effect. ;-p
Debian is the universal operating system (though work is under way to
support other universes) - it won't cure stupid (that requires constant
application of a knowledge stick), but it will raise your IQ (Inquiring
Questions), make you look less fat, fix your car, and make shopping
trolley run straight. It is the religion that doesn't kill.
:-)


> Don't get me wrong: I like to learn new things!

Spend some time in the mailing list archives, exploring the wiki and the
rest of Debian.org - and I guarantee you'll learn a lot. The usual
Debian guarantee applies - if it breaks you get to keep both pieces.

> 
> On the other hand I think it's more like a workaround and not a proper 
> solution because I don't receive any updates on the packages from testing 
> which I would when it were in backports?

While you're edumacating yourself - look up pinning (by package) and
you'll be pleasantly surprised. ;-)

> 
> 
> Thanks again
> Ramon
> 
> 

My pleasure.
Disclaimer: I'm a Debian affiliate, for every 1000 conversions I get 10%
less error messages when compiling my own code.


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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 09:29, Curt  wrote:
> On 2012-01-30, Lisi  wrote:
>
> By the way, what's a standard keyboard?  Is that a well-defined thing?
> Is it Ammurukin?

Yes, he actually said "standard US keyboard". Which does not have
an AltGr key, unlike every civilized country .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#United_States

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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 18:00, Thomas H. George  wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 07:39:22PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 03:40:51PM -0500, doug wrote:
>> > On 01/28/2012 02:40 PM, Michael Lange wrote:
>> > >Hi,
>> > >
>> > >Thus spoketh "Thomas H. George"
>> > >unto us on Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:19:09 -0500:
>> > >
>> > /snip/
>>
>> > >You can set up a compose key; here I have added
>> > >
>> > >     Option         "XkbOptions" "compose:Super_R"
>> > >
>> > >to the Keyboard section in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and now I can use the right
>> > >one of the "Windows" keys as compose key, most of the default key
>> > >combinations are quite intuitive, for example if I press the ComposeKey
>> > >followed by an "a" and an apostrophe I get á , or an "o" followed by a
>> > >slash gives ø and so on.
>> > .snip/
>> > >
>> > >You can even setup custom key combinations in case you can locate the
>> > >correct file for that; here I have a file ~/.XCompose, but changes to
>> > >this file are ignored by gtk apps , and xterm and friends seem to be
>> > >unable to handle certain characters.
>>
>> Why not just use a US Intl with deadkeys keyboard layout?
>> I use it (I type in four languages, comes in very handy:
>> ñ é à ô ü þ ð µ ç etc., all very easy to type).
>>
>> ./tony
>
> What is the deadkeys keyboard layout and how do I install/use it?
>
> Incidently, none of the other proposed solutions work.  There is no
> xorg.conf any more or at least it is no longer needed.

That is because that line hasn't belonged in xorg.conf for a long time.
It should be in /etc/default/keyboard

see e.g.:
http://debian-user.blogspot.com/2010/06/etcdefaultkeyboard-replaces.html

>directory completion
try using menu-complete in ~/.inputrc

http://linuxart.com/log/archives/2005/10/13/super-useful-inputrc/

Very handy for odd filenames.

> In theory what I want is to use the console_codes ^N and ^O to shift
> between to font sets, ESC ) N to load a user defined font in G1 and
> mapscrn or setfont to make the user defined font start with the
> characters from 128 to 255.  In practice I can't make any of these
> commands work.

Why worry about changing fonts? Just use a font that has
characters for as much of unicode as you need.

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Re (6): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread peasthope
From:   =?utf-8?B?Q2FtYWxlw7Nu?= 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:48:09 +0100
> Sorry if I bothered you.

Slightly irked.  No scars.

> ... don't know who ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklaus_Wirth
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal_%28programming_language%29
& etc.

> ... or what company makes the development ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETH_Z%C3%BCrich
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_operating_system
http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/

> ... just a user POV ...

It is my page giving information rather than opinion.

> It makes me really doubt :-)

What's to doubt?

> Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon. 

Stick to mutt.

> Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-)

It's still evolving.

> "People" and "rational" can't go in the same phrase, they collide

Often, yes.

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Re: Re (2): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

2012-01-30 Thread Brian
On Mon 30 Jan 2012 at 11:30:38 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

> peter@joule:~$ /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Can't locate URI/Escape.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl 
> /usr/local/lib/perl
> /5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 
> /usr/lib/pe
> rl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at -e line 1.
> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1.

Install liburi-perl


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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

2012-01-30 Thread Wayne Topa

On 01/30/2012 11:28 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:02:16 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:


On 01/22/2012 04:11 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:

On 01/22/2012 12:14 PM, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


my Print/)Options Tab is missing the print selections here on wheezy
and ISTR it is missing on Stable&  Sid here as well. I will have to
check that again though.




Print/Options Print Selections is still missing


You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the
missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new
profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a
bug report at Debian BTS.


But I'm using GNOME and this can be make a difference. What DE/WM are
you using?


Fluxbox


(...)

Mmm, than may explain some things :-)



Yes but what?  I have been using fluxbox for 2-3 years and, before the 
cups problem a year ago, the print selection was working OK.



I think Firefox/Iceweasel menu and options can vary depending on the DE.



Let's see if anyone else using fluxbox and iceweasel in Wheezy reads 
this and can say if the print Option 'Print Selection' is in their

iceweasel.  Please??

...

I see the rest of the problems have been vanished after an update, good.


Seems like a developer reads this list.  THANKS!!


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Re (2): /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt

2012-01-30 Thread peasthope
From:   Brian 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 00:22:52 +
> 1. Test the script: execute /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt.

peter@joule:~$ /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
Can't locate URI/Escape.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl
/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/pe
rl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at -e line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at -e line 1.

Why do you have URI/Escape.pm while it isn't here?

> 2. Check Iceweasel is set up correctly: 'cat /usr/lib/mutt/mailto-mutt'.

No obvious problem.

From:   Bob Proulx 
Date:   Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:26:23 -0700
> Look in your ~/.xsession-errors file. 

peter@joule:~$ grep URI/Escape.pm ~/.xsession-errors
Can't locate URI/Escape.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl
/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/pe
rl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at -e line 1.

Ditto the above.

From:   Vincent Lefevre 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:27:06 +0100
> In the Iceweasel Preferences -> Applications, check that this script
> is used for "mailto" Content Type.

Thanks.  Fixed that.  No improvement.

From:   Michelle Konzack 
Date:   Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:48:01 +0100
> I use since ages (maybe back in Woody or Sarge) the following script:

Thanks Michelle.  My primary objective here is to fix this problem so that 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists can be complete.

Thanks for any futher ideas.... P.

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Re: Re (5): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-01-30 a las 09:52 -0700, peasth...@shaw.ca escribió:

(resending to the list)

> From: Camaleon 
> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:41:58 + (UTC)
> > A bug at the MUA, then?
> 
> Yes.  Does "http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail"; need more clarity?

Sorry if I bothered you.

I'm not familiar with that MUA, I don't know who or what company makes 
the development so I can't tell if that's a trusted source or just a user 
POV, or... whatever.

That and the fact the page starts with:

***
This page is a personal collection of notes. For authoritative 
documentation, please refer to http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/ . 
***

It makes me really doubt :-)
 
> > Mmm, I'm not that confidence for Oberon ...
> 
> For any software, some direct experience is necessary to have a 
> realistic view of efficacy.

Sure, that's why I can put my hand on fire for Oberon. It's an 
unknown/untested piece of software for me.

> > Or better yet, use a newsreader, ...
> 
> I had a preliminary look a week back and will continue.  Thanks.
> 
> > ... convince people to ditch Gmail|Yahoo|Hotmail webmail's ...
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists provides information.  

Yup, I know. IIRC I reviewed and added some hints for that page ;-)

> With any luck at all at least some people will make rational choices.

"People" and "rational" can't go in the same phrase, they collide :-P

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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

2012-01-30 Thread godo

On 01/30/2012 12:25 AM, lee wrote:

Hi,

is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
(thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
thumbnail)?

Maybe there´s a web browser that has this functionality already built
in?



Hi,
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Re: Re: Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread hardpenguin
False alarm. I didn't know I need to reinstall proprietary NVIDIA
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Re: Dead keys doesn't work in gnome 3 apps since update

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:43:31 +0100, Oscar Vidakovic wrote:

> Hi All,

Hi. Please, no html... thanks :-)

> Since I updated my Wheeze and it installed gnome 3, spanish accents dead
> keys ("´", "`", etc) stoped working in gnome apps as dead keys. I mean
> to say that when I press the "`" key and the "a" key it wirtes "´a"
> instead of "á". I mainly work with KDE desktop and have no complete
> gnome installation, but only few apps as chrome or Deluge.

(...)

Are you using a Spanish keyboard?

It works fine here (full gnome3 install). Re-add the spanish layout from 
your GNOME keyboard settings and see what happens. 

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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:25:54 +, lee wrote:

> is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
> (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
> of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
> image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
> thumbnail)?

"scrot"?

You can also print the full page to PDF and then extract a snapshot from 
it.

> Maybe there´s a web browser that has this functionality already built
> in?

Yup, there are lots of addonds for Firefox/Iceweasel.

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Problem when adding a printer (was: Please assist.)

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:29:12 +0300, BETA BOOKSHOP & STATIONERS BETA
BOOKSHOP wrote:

(next time choose a more descriptive subject and avoid using html 
format...)

> I have a problem with my printer(Gestetner Dsm 718) installation.I have
> tried severally without and success.I have gone to
> Administration>Printing>Locahost and tried to add a new printer from USB
> serial but it has refused.I have felt defeat and want you to help in
> retaining my hope.
> How can I Install this.Since I have even tried it using a  Software Disk
> but still it refuses.

I can't locate your printer (DSM 718) here:

http://www.ricoh-support.com/enduser/gestetner/

Nor here:

http://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Gestetner/

Is that the correct model number? :-?

Anyway, if the printer is PS based, you can choose a gerenic PS driver. 
Otherwise, choose "pxlmono-Gestetner" PPD file. 

Add the printer by using CUPS web interface wizard (http://localhost:631).

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Re: need information of laptops that can run debian well

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:09:26 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:

> is there any wiki or list of laptops that are supported by debian 6?

Yup, but it's populated by users:

http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/wiki/
http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn

> i saw that many laptops are having highly proprietary drivers even for
> the nic.

There is also Ubuntu Certified hardware HCL, looking at there won't hurt:

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/

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Re: Kernel Compiling from scratch

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 15:40:24 +0500, Syed Hasan Atizaz wrote:

> I like to know where can i get the information in detail for compiling
> kernel, loading modules and installing programs from scratch. i never
> did it before. I installed virtual box recently and looking to play with
> it.

For kernel compiling I followed these instructions:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s06.html.en

It worked like a charm with few modifications.

For general software compiling, just read the corresponding "README" 
files before proceeding :-)

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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

2012-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-30, Bob Proulx  wrote:
>
> Can you try this with the keyboard plugged in directly *without* the
> KVM switch.  I suspect the KVM switch is the problem.  Especially if
> you are using a USB keyboard switch.
>

Remember, the keyboard weighs 10 pounds!


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Re: possibly defective kernel

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 00:43:03 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Preconfiguring packages ...
> Selecting previously unselected package linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae.
> (Reading database ... 63135 files and directories currently installed.)
> Preparing to replace linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae 3.2.1-1 (using
> .../linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae_3.2.1-2_i386.deb) ... Unpacking
> replacement linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae ... dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-1-686-pae_3.2.1-2_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  failed in write on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during
> `./lib/modules/3.2.0-1-686-pae/kernel/drivers/media/dvb/frontends/mb86a16.ko':
> No space left on device

(...)

I had space constraints when using "virtual" filesystems (sysfs/tmpfs) in 
my small netbook with 1 GiB of ram. 

Simply unpacking operations left the "/tmp" mount point full in a hurry 
so I had to revert to the usual mount system based on real hard disk 
space rather than available memory.

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Re: Just what does _DEBIAN_ mean by "live"

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:21:48 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

> I downloaded a 770MB file titled
> debian-live-6.0.3-i386-lxde-desktop.iso . Burned a DVD.Got some
> surprises :<

(...)

You will get what you expect if you grab the ISO file from Debian site. 
Other sites can be hosting different flavours/spins which have nothing to 
do with the official Debian images.

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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

2012-01-30 Thread Claudius Hubig
Claudius Hubig  wrote:
>Hello lee,
>
>lee  wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
>>(thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
>>of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
>>image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
>>thumbnail)?
>
>Well, there are various tools which can convert HTML to practically
>anything, but they probably won’t do what you want.

Oh, there’s also gnome-web-photo, which at the moment does not appear
to be in the Debian repositories. However, the packages from Ubuntu
work just fine.
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Re: how to download net inst wheezy and install

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:20:58 -0200, Fernando Gadea wrote:

> I am trying to get the net inst file to install debian wheezy but cant
> find it. Are various files? where is the one I need for amd64? thank you

They're here:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/

And more specifically:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/wheezy_d-i/current/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

2012-01-30 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello lee,

lee  wrote:
>Hi,
>
>is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
>(thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages? Like something that instead
>of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
>image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
>thumbnail)?

Well, there are various tools which can convert HTML to practically
anything, but they probably won’t do what you want.

However, googling (you did google, didn’t you?) brought me there:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/125951/command-line-program-to-create-website-screenshots-on-linux

The script in the first answer[1] needs some more adjustments, for
example, the s/firefox/iceweasel, the correct display option for
iceweasel and import also probably needs an environment variable
DISPLAY=:11

But apart from that, it should work :)

Best regards & good luck,

Claudius

1] For those too lazy to go there:

#!/bin/sh

# start a server with a specific DISPLAY
vncserver :11 -geometry 1024x768

# start firefox in this vnc session
firefox -display :11

# read URLs from a data file in a loop
count=1
while read url
do
# send URL to the firefox session
firefox -display :11 $url

# take a picture after waiting a bit for the load to finish
sleep 5
import -window root image$count.jpg
done < url_list.txt

# clean up when done
vncserver -kill :11
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

2012-01-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Harry Putnam wrote:
> The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
> to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.

Can you try this with the keyboard plugged in directly *without* the
KVM switch.  I suspect the KVM switch is the problem.  Especially if
you are using a USB keyboard switch.

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Re: Getting java applications to look like GTK

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:33:42 -0600, Christian Dysthe wrote:

> On 01/23/12 at 09:04am, Steve Mayer wrote:
>> On Jan 23, 2012, at 9:01 AM, Christian Dysthe wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > When I run Gnome Java applications looks like the rest of my GTK
>> > based applications. However, when I'm running another DE
>> > (Pekwm/tint2) Java applications do not look like my other GTK
>> > applications. How can I get Java applications too look like my other
>> > applications when not using Gnome? I use Gtk-ChTheme to see the GTK
>> > theme when not in Gnome, but it doesn't affect  the look of Java
>> > applications.
>> 
>> 
>> Christian,
>> 
>>  Do you get the proper LAF if you pass this argument on the Java
>>  command line?:
>> 
>>  -Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel
> 
> That did the trick, thanks! Do you know why I do not have to add this
> when running Gnome? 

I guess this has to come from environmental variables. JRE has to read 
them and use it when you launch the virtual machine.

> Is there a way to set it at login so I do not have to for every Java
> application I launch?

Mmm, maybe you can edit you "~/.bashrc" and export the required values 
from there (e.g., export _JAVA_OPTIONS='-
Dswing.defaultlaf=com.sun.java.swing.plaf.gtk.GTKLookAndFeel'). I have to 
tested this, not sure if it is a valid setting, use with caution ;-)

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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Curt
On 2012-01-30, Lisi  wrote:

>
> When I try to use tab completion and it fails it has always been because of 
> some typo I had made.

Have you ever tried tab completion with a wildcard, which is the case in
hand?

I created a directory with an accented character in it and
attempted to remove it with globbing.

I found that tab completion doesn't work under these (laboratory)
conditions.

"Laboratory" in the sense of "scientific experimentation."  Not to be
confused with lavatory.

Now another "solution" to the problem would be to run the gpm daemon.
That way the op could just cut and paste the offending directory names
(or accented characters) at the console.

By the way, what's a standard keyboard?  Is that a well-defined thing?
Is it Ammurukin?  I have a modifier key on my keyboard (AltGR), if
that's the correct term, that, in conjunction with other regular keys,
allows me to type accented characters. Does a standard keyboard have a
modifier key?  Does the op have a modifier key? If so, why doesn't he use
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Re: Can't get NIC Bonding with active-backup working

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 11:29:07 +, Shaun wrote:

> Have tried to get NIC Bonding working as per wiki.debian.org/Bonding.
> 
> Each NIC is connected to a different switch for redundancy rather than
> bandwidth purposes (insulate against a switch failure).  I'm using the
> active-backup mode for HA failover.
> 
> output from cat /etc/network/interfaces

(...)

I have the same setup as yours in my lenny servers but with a difference: 
both cards are connected to the same physical switch in the same VLAN.

> If I then pull a cable (or use ifconfig eth0 down) I get the following
> in the syslog:
> 
> Jan 23 11:21:50 host-1 kernel: [55852.565975] bonding: bond0: link status 
> down for active interface eth0, disabling it in 200 ms. 
> Jan 23 11:21:51 host-1 kernel: [55852.761549] bonding: bond0: link status 
> definitely down for interface eth0, disabling it 
> Jan 23 11:21:51 host-1 kernel: [55852.761555] bonding: bond0: making 
> interface eth1 the new active one.
> 
> All looks good... but... ping from host-1 produces Destination host
> unreachable (with the icmp errors coming from the IP of the bond0 device
> itself).  And my remote ssh session dies.  Good job I have KVM access :)
> 
> So it's not working.  This setup seems so simple I can't see where
> anything could be wrong, so I'm starting to suspect a problem with the
> switch. Maybe the switch(es) are being too clever? But then again maybe
> I've done something wrong.
> 
> What can I do to find out what's going on?  I'm using Squeeze (current
> point release) and Kernel  2.6.32-5-amd64.

Mmm... have you tried the other way round? Disconnect eth1 and see if it 
works.

Another thing I would test is with no bonding setup at all, configure 
both ethernet cards separately and try to ping with both of them, i.e.:

ping -c 3 -I eth0 google.com
ping -c 3 -I eth1 google.com

Just to discard a hardware or routing issue.

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Re: how to examine the network issue

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 13:18:50 +0800, lina wrote:

> I found I can ssh to server,

To what server? Local server, remote server...?

> but could not open some webpage. 

What page?

> but can open google on and off. is it weird?

It is if you don't provide more data :-)

> The connection was reset

(...)

It can be indeed a transient problem with that site.

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Re: Printer Drivers

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 16:59:14 -0800, Weaver wrote:

> Greetings al.
> 
> Interesting site.
> An alternative to linuxprinters.org when you can't find what you need?
> 
> http://www.driverlook.com/

Looks like an advertizing site...

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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Jochen Spieker  wrote:
> lina:
>>
>> well, a question,
>>
>> $ seq 0 3 | xargs --verbose echo A
>> echo A 0 1 2 3
>> A 0 1 2 3
>>
>> How can I make the output as:
>>
>> A0 A1 A2 A3
>
> Your problem in this case is that xargs adds whitespace before adding
> arguments. What you can do is to modify seq's output before xargs sees
> it:
>
> $ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/'
> A0
> A1
> A2
> A3
>
> Which leads to:
>
> $ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/' | xargs --verbose echo
> echo A0 A1 A2 A3
> A0 A1 A2 A3
>
>> P.S Very good explaination.
>
> Thanks!
>
> BTW: when requesting these things it is often better to ask for the real
> thing you want to achieve. Synthetic examples like these most often
> don't cover all cases or leave out important information. For example,

Yes. the ultimate goal is:

for i in {0..108}
do
cat A_$i.txt B_$i.txt C_$i.txt -o ABC_$i.txt  (output as ABC_$i.txt)
done

but here I wish to use only 8 processors at most, total is 16.
the administrator of the cluster asked me not to use whole, cause
someone else needs SMP server.

each cat in my situations last 5~10 mins,
> if "A0" should actually be a filename, your next question might be how
> to get from "A0" to "A0.jpeg":
>
> $ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/' -e 's/$/.jpeg/'
> A0.jpeg
> A1.jpeg
> A2.jpeg
> A3.jpeg

I used to do it in a very clumsy way like seq 0 3 | sed 's/^.*$/A$/g'
| sed 's/^.*$/&.jpeg/g'. Thanks, it's smart.

>
> The two sed expressions perform search & replace at the beginning (^)
> and at the end ($) of the line-.
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Re: Re(4): POP3 in Debian

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:05:46 -0700, peasthope wrote:

> From: Camaleon 
> Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:31:35 + (UTC)
>> So finally, what are you going to do or what are now your plans
>> regarding your original issue? :-?
> 
> It was fixed last Thursday, January 19 shortly after Aoki rminded me to
> check with telnet.  Documented in the second paragraph here.
> "http://carnot.yi.org/OberonPage.html#Mail"; Editing and recompiling in
> less than 5 minutes.

Oh, I see. A bug at the MUA, then?

>> What I can tell is that editing the subject line can make some MUAs
>> (mostly webmails) break the threading style by removing the required
>> references and/or reply-to headers.
> 
> Use mutt or Oberon.  Instructions in
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists pending.

Mmm, I'm not that confidence for Oberon but +1 for Mutt. Or better yet, 
use a newsreader, it's the perfect transport protocol for dealing with 
mailing lists.

But now the hard part: convince people to ditch Gmail|Yahoo|Hotmail 
webmail's in favor of Mutt or another decent MUA >>:-)

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console_codes question (was Accented Characters - How to type)

2012-01-30 Thread Thomas H. George
The man page for console_codes explains that there are two fonts
available (G0 and G1) with commands ^O and ^N to switch between them.
Furthermore, it is possible replace the standard font for G1 (VT100
graphics) with a user-defined character set.

I have not been able to make all this work but it suggests I could have
any characters I want by constructing an appropriate user-defined
character set for G1 and switching between G0 and G1 as needed.

Currently the character sets for G0 and G1 seem to be identical so the
commands ^O and ^N seem to have no effect.  The console_codes man page
includes references to man pages for ncurses and reset.  My system has
no man page for ncurses but the man page for reset includes the command
^Jreset^J which works and changes the current character set to a much
smaller font size, again with no difference between G0 and G1.

Question:  Should this all work as described? Is it obsolete?

It is promising and worth studying if I can make it all function as
described.  If any one is using these options I would very much like to
learn from your experiences.

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Re: Cusp finally working BUT something missing PARTLY SOLVED

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 10:02:16 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

> On 01/22/2012 04:11 PM, Wayne Topa wrote:
>> On 01/22/2012 12:14 PM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)
 
>> my Print/)Options Tab is missing the print selections here on wheezy
>> and ISTR it is missing on Stable & Sid here as well. I will have to
>> check that again though.
>>>
>>>
> Print/Options Print Selections is still missing

You can download Firefox from upstream and check from there. If the 
missing option ("print selected") is present here, then try using a new 
profile with Iceweasel. If still no luck, you can consider in opening a 
bug report at Debian BTS.

>>> But I'm using GNOME and this can be make a difference. What DE/WM are
>>> you using?
>>
>> Fluxbox

(...)

Mmm, than may explain some things :-)

I think Firefox/Iceweasel menu and options can vary depending on the DE.

...

I see the rest of the problems have been vanished after an update, good.

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Re: My network speed is only 10MB

2012-01-30 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:38:45 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> On 1/22/2012 11:45 AM, hvw59601 wrote:
> 
>> So I check NewEgg:
>> 
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833122392 10Gb/s:
>> 
>> Check that price! $279.99 Holy Cow! And that's the cheapest one!
> 
> You're either a moron or a troll.  Which is it?

Is not a bad price for a 10 Gbps card.

Other than that, I wonder why someone would need a 10 Gbps card without a 
network infrastructure that supports it.

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Re: Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread hardpenguin
Hello there.

I'm pretty sure, last update (6.0.4) broke my Xorg or something. Before
update I could play my games without problem (King Arthur's Gold,
Baldur's Gate [Wine], League of Legends [Wine]), now they cannot
initialise display. Error message from KAG:

Linux 2.6.38-bpo.2-686 #1 SMP Tue Jun 14 11:43:18 UTC 2011 i686
X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
  Major opcode of failed request:  137 (NV-GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  4 ()
  Resource id in failed request:  0x302
  Serial number of failed request:  36
  Current serial number in output stream:  36

Then crash. And error message from BG:

err:winediag:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo Unable to activate OpenGL
context, most likely your OpenGL drivers haven't been installed
correctly
err:wgl:X11DRV_WineGL_InitOpenglInfo  couldn't initialize OpenGL, expect
problems
err:d3d_caps:WineD3D_CreateFakeGLContext Can't find a suitable
iPixelFormat.

I didn't change anything in my system so I'm pretty sure it is because
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
lina:
> 
> well, a question,
> 
> $ seq 0 3 | xargs --verbose echo A
> echo A 0 1 2 3
> A 0 1 2 3
> 
> How can I make the output as:
> 
> A0 A1 A2 A3

Your problem in this case is that xargs adds whitespace before adding
arguments. What you can do is to modify seq's output before xargs sees
it:

$ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/'
A0
A1
A2
A3

Which leads to:

$ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/' | xargs --verbose echo
echo A0 A1 A2 A3
A0 A1 A2 A3

> P.S Very good explaination.

Thanks!

BTW: when requesting these things it is often better to ask for the real
thing you want to achieve. Synthetic examples like these most often
don't cover all cases or leave out important information. For example,
if "A0" should actually be a filename, your next question might be how
to get from "A0" to "A0.jpeg":

$ seq 0 3 | sed -e 's/^/A/' -e 's/$/.jpeg/'
A0.jpeg
A1.jpeg
A2.jpeg
A3.jpeg

The two sed expressions perform search & replace at the beginning (^)
and at the end ($) of the line-.

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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

2012-01-30 Thread Andreas Glaeser
First I had some problems with gmane finding the my thread, the I tried to 
reply through
gmane, but now I found that my answer was not there, although the system told 
me, that
sending seems to have been done correctly.
When I think of it now this must be the most insecure thing ever, as only my 
name and
e-mail address were required, and no authentication at all took place, except 
some
pseudo-captcha. Do you really rely on people not to abuse this hole ? Or does 
it just
look like a security hole to me in review ?
Installing 'linux-source-3.2' and building it worked just fine, it is running 
just fine
now, too, useless to say, that there was no configuration necessary prior to 
building the
kernel-package, all the settings were already made.
Configuration-files cleaned now, 'aptitude update' issued, but still:
andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-show-versions -u
nfs-common/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2 to 
1:1.2.4-1~bpo60+1
xserver-xephyr/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 2:1.7.7-14 to 
2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
xserver-xorg-core/squeeze-backports upgradeable from 2:1.7.7-14 to 
2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-cache policy nfs-common
nfs-common:
  Installed: 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2
  Candidate: 1:1.2.4-1~bpo60+1
  Version table:
 1:1.2.4-1~bpo60+1 0
200 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ 
squeeze-backports/main amd64
Packages *** 1:1.2.2-4squeeze2 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 1:1.2.2-4 0
500 ftp://ftp.freenet.de/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xephyr
xserver-xephyr:
  Installed: 2:1.7.7-14
  Candidate: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
  Version table:
 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1 0
200 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ 
squeeze-backports/main amd64
Packages *** 2:1.7.7-14 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2:1.7.7-13 0
500 ftp://ftp.freenet.de/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
andreas@osrdii:~$ apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-core:
  Installed: 2:1.7.7-14
  Candidate: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1
  Version table:
 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1 0
200 http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ 
squeeze-backports/main amd64
Packages *** 2:1.7.7-14 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2:1.7.7-13 0
500 ftp://ftp.freenet.de/debian/ squeeze/main amd64 Packages
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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

2012-01-30 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Harry Putnam, 30.01.2012:
> Running Wheezy - kde plasma
> 
> Running Debian / windows7 on a KVM switch (IOGEAR miniview 4 port DVI)
> 
> Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.  Its not that old
> but is in the old style with serious stand up keys and lots of clatter
> when typing.
> 
> I've been running thru this switch for several months and a different
> switch before that.
> 
> I've been using the keyboard for a couple of years.
> 
> All equipment has been in use a good while.
> 
> I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
> (seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.
> 
> I'll be typing and suddenly I'm in caps and have to turn caps lock on
> (led comes on) to get back to lowercase.
> 
> Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
> ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes). 
> 
> I'm not sure if its related to debian though it did seem to start
> following a major update of pkgs.  (No I didn't keep a list).
> 
> The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
> to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.
> 
> Googling on various strings, I see this problem coming up going way
> back but not particularly recently or on debian.

Probably a long shot (especially since your problem persists when you 
flip the KVM switch), but I remember a long time ago that in the virtual 
console of my laptop the "windows key" would turn on caps without 
changing the led.  I'm also pretty sure I mentioned this on a thread on 
this list or debian-laptop.  Try to find that thread.  There were more 
ideas there. :)

> After much fiddling, looking for stuck keys, unplugging/replugging
> KVM/keyboard it seems to go back to normal, but the last time I
> haven't been able to get back to normal so running with numlock and
> caps lock turned on to get lowercase, normal shift activity, and
> ability to type numbers.
> 
> I've been running that way for 2 days this time around.  And since it
> seems to have stabilized with capslock on and I quit trying
> to get it back to normal. 
> 
> This time the numbers are working normally too, with or without
> numlock, long as I keep capslock on.


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Re: Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

2012-01-30 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 09:21:34AM -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Running Wheezy - kde plasma
> 
> Running Debian / windows7 on a KVM switch (IOGEAR miniview 4 port DVI)
> 
> I've been using the keyboard for a couple of years.
> 
> All equipment has been in use a good while.
> 
> I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
> (seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.
> 
> I'll be typing and suddenly I'm in caps and have to turn caps lock on
> (led comes on) to get back to lowercase.
> 
> Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
> ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes). 

Upper case numbers?

> 
> I'm not sure if its related to debian though it did seem to start
> following a major update of pkgs.  (No I didn't keep a list).

I would say no.

> 
> The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
> to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.

Right there is your evidence that it's not Debian-related.
I had a similar problem (cheap keyboard).
Sometimes logging out of X would return caps/lowercase back to normal.

In any case, replacing the keyboard completely resolved the issue.
I'd say you just have an old, tired keyboard.

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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Jochen Spieker  wrote:
> lina:
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Jochen Spieker  
>> wrote:
>>> lina:

 I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
 finished, a new job can continue,
>>>
>>> Xargs can be used for this. An exmaple:
>>>
>>> $ seq 1 100 | xargs -n1 -P8 echo
>>>
>>> Seq prints the numbers from 1 to 100 (one per line) and xargs starts an
>>> echo for each argument with 8 invocations in parallel.
>>
>> I don't get it well.
>
> You could help me helping you by trying to be more verbose about what
> you don't understand.
>
> But anyway, a more detailed explanation:
>
> "seq" just prints a sequence of numbers:
>
> $ seq 1 3
> 1
> 2
> 3
>
> "xargs" executes the given command (in this example a simple "echo") and
> adds arguments to this command which it reads from stdin. The --verbose
> switch makes xargs print the command before it executes it:
>
> $ echo 1 | xargs --verbose echo
> echo 1
> 1
>
> With more than one line from stdin, xargs adds as many arguments as
> possible to the command line:
>
> $ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose echo
> echo 1 2 3
> 1 2 3
>
> Xargs -n  tells xargs to add only  of arguments to the
> command:
>
> $ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 echo
> echo 1
> 1
> echo 2
> 2
> echo 3
> 3
>
> Xargs -P  tells xargs to run  jobs in parallel, if
> possible:
>
> $ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P8 echo
> echo 1
> echo 2
> echo 3
> 1
> 3
> 2
>
> Of course, since xargs only received three lines of input, it wasn't
> able to actually run more than three jobs at once. But you can guess
> that all commands ran more or less in parallel from the fact that the
> first three lines of output are from xargs and the latter three are from
> the echo processes that xargs has launched. Incidentally, the three
> processes didn't even finish in the order they were started.
>
> Using two processes in parallel you get something like this:
>
> $ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P2 echo
> echo 1
> echo 2
> 1
> echo 3
> 2
> 3
>
> In this example, xargs immediately started another job after the first
> one finished to keep running two jobs in parallel.

well, a question,

$ seq 0 3 | xargs --verbose echo A
echo A 0 1 2 3
A 0 1 2 3

How can I make the output as:

A0 A1 A2 A3

Thanks again,

P.S Very good explaination.
>
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Darac Marjal  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:06:06PM +0800, lina wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> ( sorry if it a bit off-topic)
>>
>> I have a script like
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>>
>> for i in {0..108}
>> do
>>
>> some job will run for mins &
>>
>> done
>>
>> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
>> but there is a problem,
>>
>> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
>> finished, a new job can continue,
>>
>> Some suggestions?
>
> No doubt someone will be able to critique my makefile (I just cobbled it
> together from a few minutes reading).
>
> cat  all: part1 part2 part3 part4  part108
>
> part1: DoSomething.sh

a quick Q, how can I use 1 of part1 inside the Dosomething,

$a=$1 (?)
cat_g_f -f m001\_$a\_sot.xtc m002\_$a\_sot.xtc m003\_$a\_sot.xtc
m004\_$a\_sot.xtc -cat -o m\_$a.xtc -nice 0

>
> part2: DoSomethingElse.sh
>
> part3 part4 part5: echo "This is part $@"
>
> EOF
>
> make -j8 all
>
Thanks all

>
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Chen Wei  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:06:06PM +0800, lina wrote:
>> I have a script like
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>> for i in {0..108}
>> do
>>
>> some job will run for mins &
>> done
>>
>> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
>> but there is a problem,
>> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
>> finished, a new job can continue,
>> Some suggestions?
>
> how about instead of one script, running 8 scripts from cron, each has
> its own lock file:
>
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> #script no.1
>
> LOCKFILE="$HOME/lockfiles/lock_1"
> if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then
>   exit 1
> else
>   echo "green light .."
> fi
>
> date -u > $LOCKFILE
> do something
> rm $LOCKFILE

This is a very nice options. I can use

for i in {1..20}
do something
in script one,

and i in {21..40}
do something
in script 2

and run those separately without &. Thanks,
> 
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
lina:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Jochen Spieker  wrote:
>> lina:
>>> 
>>> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
>>> finished, a new job can continue,
>> 
>> Xargs can be used for this. An exmaple:
>> 
>> $ seq 1 100 | xargs -n1 -P8 echo
>> 
>> Seq prints the numbers from 1 to 100 (one per line) and xargs starts an
>> echo for each argument with 8 invocations in parallel.
> 
> I don't get it well.

You could help me helping you by trying to be more verbose about what
you don't understand.

But anyway, a more detailed explanation:

"seq" just prints a sequence of numbers:

$ seq 1 3
1
2
3

"xargs" executes the given command (in this example a simple "echo") and
adds arguments to this command which it reads from stdin. The --verbose
switch makes xargs print the command before it executes it:

$ echo 1 | xargs --verbose echo
echo 1
1

With more than one line from stdin, xargs adds as many arguments as
possible to the command line:

$ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose echo
echo 1 2 3
1 2 3

Xargs -n  tells xargs to add only  of arguments to the
command:

$ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 echo
echo 1
1
echo 2
2
echo 3
3

Xargs -P  tells xargs to run  jobs in parallel, if
possible:

$ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P8 echo
echo 1
echo 2
echo 3
1
3
2

Of course, since xargs only received three lines of input, it wasn't
able to actually run more than three jobs at once. But you can guess
that all commands ran more or less in parallel from the fact that the
first three lines of output are from xargs and the latter three are from
the echo processes that xargs has launched. Incidentally, the three
processes didn't even finish in the order they were started.

Using two processes in parallel you get something like this:

$ seq 1 3 | xargs --verbose -n1 -P2 echo
echo 1
echo 2
1
echo 3
2
3

In this example, xargs immediately started another job after the first
one finished to keep running two jobs in parallel.

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Capslock mystery - Recent phenomena concerning keyboard

2012-01-30 Thread Harry Putnam
Running Wheezy - kde plasma

Running Debian / windows7 on a KVM switch (IOGEAR miniview 4 port DVI)

Keyboard is from `Unicomp' and weighs about 10 lbs.  Its not that old
but is in the old style with serious stand up keys and lots of clatter
when typing.

I've been running thru this switch for several months and a different
switch before that.

I've been using the keyboard for a couple of years.

All equipment has been in use a good while.

I've recently started having a problem where the capslock comes on
(seemingly randomly) but not the led that indicates its on.

I'll be typing and suddenly I'm in caps and have to turn caps lock on
(led comes on) to get back to lowercase.

Even that doesn't really work, since numbers stay upper case to what
ever symbols are the upper case for each (sometimes). 

I'm not sure if its related to debian though it did seem to start
following a major update of pkgs.  (No I didn't keep a list).

The reason I say I'm not sure is that once it starts, even if I switch
to windows 7 host through the KVM, its still stuck on caps.

Googling on various strings, I see this problem coming up going way
back but not particularly recently or on debian.

After much fiddling, looking for stuck keys, unplugging/replugging
KVM/keyboard it seems to go back to normal, but the last time I
haven't been able to get back to normal so running with numlock and
caps lock turned on to get lowercase, normal shift activity, and
ability to type numbers.

I've been running that way for 2 days this time around.  And since it
seems to have stabilized with capslock on and I quit trying
to get it back to normal. 

This time the numbers are working normally too, with or without
numlock, long as I keep capslock on.


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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:06:06PM +0800, lina wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ( sorry if it a bit off-topic)
> 
> I have a script like
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> for i in {0..108}
> do
> 
> some job will run for mins &
> 
> done
> 
> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
> but there is a problem,
> 
> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
> finished, a new job can continue,
> 
> Some suggestions?

No doubt someone will be able to critique my makefile (I just cobbled it
together from a few minutes reading).

cat 

Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Chen Wei
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:06:06PM +0800, lina wrote:
> I have a script like
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> for i in {0..108}
> do
> 
> some job will run for mins &
> done
> 
> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
> but there is a problem,
> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
> finished, a new job can continue,
> Some suggestions?

how about instead of one script, running 8 scripts from cron, each has
its own lock file:


#!/bin/sh
#script no.1

LOCKFILE="$HOME/lockfiles/lock_1"
if [ -f $LOCKFILE ]; then
   exit 1
else
   echo "green light .."
fi

date -u > $LOCKFILE
do something
rm $LOCKFILE


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Re: Wheezy. Weekly build 23-Jan-2012. "No kernel modules were found" during install.

2012-01-30 Thread Christofer C. Bell
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Leonid Korostyshevski <
korostyshevski@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> If somebody knows, is that bug fixed in upcoming DVD 30-01-2012 weekly
> build? ~3.7Gb is a way big for 3G uplink, so should it be marked for
> download when *.iso will be ready for?
>

Leonid,

If bandwidth is an issue for you, have you considered looking into
jigdo[1]?  With jigdo, you can keep up to date with weekly ISO builds by
only downloading what's changed since the last ISO release.  Jigdo will
download the packages that have changed from the previous ISO (assuming you
have a copy of it) and will build the new ISO for you on your hard disk.

Both stable and testing are available using jigdo.

[1] http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/

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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Chen Wei
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 08:40:23PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> NOTE: it is very, very rare for your posts to the list not to be published.
> 
> You can set up a separate free webmail account and use it as the replyto
> address in emails to the list from your gmail account, then set up
> forwarding from that account to your gmail account.
> 
> You can set up your own email server, or purchase an email service
> somewhere. I don't know if other free webmail services display list
> posting either - perhaps other users can advise.
gmail is still the most popular free mail service, followed by gmx. gmx
works well with mailing list, it also support SMTP & IMAP.

statistic from 18K debian-user messages:
Among 1514 users posted to the list
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gmx.de 20  1.3% | 
mail.ru18  1.2% | 
hotmail.com17  1.1% | 
googlemail.com 17  1.1% | 
web.de 11  0.7% | 
verizon.net10  0.7% | 
free.fr10  0.7% | 
yahoo.fr8  0.5% | 
gmx.net 7  0.5% | 
onlineprintsystems.com  6  0.4% | 
comcast.net 6  0.4% | 
yahoo.it5  0.3% | 
lavabit.com 5  0.3% | 
iki.fi  5  0.3% | 
att.net 5  0.3% | 
pobox.com   4  0.3% | 
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Jochen Spieker  wrote:
> lina:
>>
>> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
>> finished, a new job can continue,
>
> Xargs can be used for this. An exmaple:
>
> $ seq 1 100 | xargs -n1 -P8 echo
>
> Seq prints the numbers from 1 to 100 (one per line) and xargs starts an
> echo for each argument with 8 invocations in parallel.

I don't get it well.
>
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Re: Converting to btrfs

2012-01-30 Thread Christian Dysthe
On 01/30/12 at 06:52am, Alan Chandler wrote:
> On 29/01/12 18:21, Christian Dysthe wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have an older laptop running Sid I like to play around with. I would
> >like to check out the new btrfs file system and know you can easily convert
> >from  ext4 to btrfs. The disk is partitioned with a small /boot partition, a
> >10 gb / partition and a /home parirtion taking the rest of the disk (except
> >for swap). As long as I keep the /boot parition ext4 do I have to do more
> >than point to the new UUIDs in fstab after conversion and update grub?
> >
> 
> Its been a while since I made myself a setup like this - but I think
> you will also have to ensure that initramfs has the bttrfs driver in
> it.

That means I need a kernel with btrfs support and then do an 
'update-initramfs' also?
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Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Hutton
On 30 January 2012 22:56, Ramon Hofer  wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:35:25 +1100, Alex Hutton wrote:
>
>> I'm running a dual monitor setup with fglrx.
>>
>> I have upgraded from Squeeze 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 and after reboot I only have
>> a one monitor desktop.
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone could tell me where my old xorg.conf went to?
>>
>> And is there a way to configure apt so that upgrades stop clobbering my
>> xorg.conf?
>
> I'm running a dual screen setup with my laptop and Squeeze too. But I
> didn't have any problems after updating.
>
> Usually I get asked what I want to do when there are new config files.
> Did you update with the yes option or something like this?
>
>
> Best regards
> Ramon
>

Thanks  everyone for the reply.

I must apologise... it appears the cord was loose. It's funny that
when a monitor is not plugged in during Xorg's startup, it goes to
single desktop rather than starting a dual setup and allowing the
mouse to pass off one screen and into a blank area.

Now it appears in my panic I've done something to the config file
because now even after I restored what I thought was the working
backup I'm only getting one screen (but this time it's the other
screen).

Oh well :) ... I'll  sort it out when I have the time.


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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 23:05:07 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 30/01/12 22:50, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:03:24 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 30/01/12 20:48, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu
>> which I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the
>> display working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/
>> LCDd.conf to imonlcd.
>> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver
>> isn't available.
>
> 
> 
> 
>> If I understand the idea behind backports correct wouldn't it be useful
>> to have this package in there too?
> 
> The idea with backports (usually) is to make a package from a newer
> release, that requires libraries not available in an older release, work
> with the libraries available in the older release.
> 
> In this case it's not necessary, and would be redundant (because it's
> not necessary) ;-)

Aha, so in this case the new lcdproc version and it's dependencies work 
with the libraries from squeeze and that's why there's no need to have it 
in the backports?
I thought it would just be to allow stupid users like me to use newer 
packages :-)
But the longer I use Debian the longer I get the idea that there aren't 
any stupid users supposed to use Debian at all ;-)
Don't get me wrong: I like to learn new things!

On the other hand I think it's more like a workaround and not a proper 
solution because I don't receive any updates on the packages from testing 
which I would when it were in backports?


Thanks again
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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 22:50, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:03:24 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
>> On 30/01/12 20:48, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>>>
 On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu
> which I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the
> display working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/
> LCDd.conf to imonlcd.
> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver
> isn't available.



> 
> If I understand the idea behind backports correct wouldn't it be useful 
> to have this package in there too?

The idea with backports (usually) is to make a package from a newer
release, that requires libraries not available in an older release, work
with the libraries available in the older release.

In this case it's not necessary, and would be redundant (because it's
not necessary) ;-)




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Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:35:25 +1100, Alex Hutton wrote:

> I'm running a dual monitor setup with fglrx.
> 
> I have upgraded from Squeeze 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 and after reboot I only have
> a one monitor desktop.
> 
> I am wondering if anyone could tell me where my old xorg.conf went to?
> 
> And is there a way to configure apt so that upgrades stop clobbering my
> xorg.conf?

I'm running a dual screen setup with my laptop and Squeeze too. But I 
didn't have any problems after updating.

Usually I get asked what I want to do when there are new config files.
Did you update with the yes option or something like this?


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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:03:24 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 30/01/12 20:48, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> 
>>> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
 Hi all

 I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu
 which I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the
 display working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/
 LCDd.conf to imonlcd.
 Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver
 isn't available.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
 Best regards
 Ramon



>>> # apt-get install lcdproc
>>> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/lcdproc pool/main/l/lcdproc/
>>>
>>> Did I miss something there?
>> 
>> Sorry wrong button :-o
>> 
>> The drivers that are included in lcdproc are:
>> 
>> # The following drivers are supported: #   bayrad, CFontz, CFontz633,
>> CFontzPacket, curses, CwLnx, ea65, #   EyeboxOne, g15, glcdlib, glk,
>> hd44780, icp_a106, imon, IOWarrior, #   irman, joy, lb216, lcdm001,
>> lcterm, lirc, MD8800, ms6931, mtc_s16209x, #   MtxOrb, NoritakeVFD,
>> picolcd, pyramid, sed1330, sed1520, serialPOS, #   serialVFD, sli,
>> stv5730, svga, t6963, text, tyan, ula200, xosd
>> 
>> 
>> But I need imonlcd and not imon.
> 
> Are you sure?
> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Imon (specifically "lcdproc 0.5.3 appears to
> include the imonlcd patch set.")

I'm not an expert but in the /etc/LCDd.conf the imonlcd wasn't mentioned. 
When I set the driver to imon with the the ServerScreen set to yes 
nothing was displayed.

I found this page so I supposed there are still two different drivers:
http://lcdproc.sourceforge.net/docs/stable-0-5-x-user.html#imonlcd-howto

 
> That could mean that imon in Wheezy's lcdproc is the same as imonlcd.
> It's not listed in Wheezy lcdproc-extra-drivers.
> 
> You could try the Sid package eg:-
> add testing to your sources list
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get -st unstable install lcdproc | less
> 
> And just see what's going to happen (it may not require backporting -
> you don't say which kernel version you're running)

I'm using Squeeze with the backports kernel linux-image-amd64 which was 
updated today to 3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64.

That's a great idea!
I've never thought of using a package from testing. Until some days ago I 
wasn't even brave enough to use backports :-)


> If looks ok just proceed.
> 
> Don't forget to remove testing from /etc/apt/sources.list afterwards and
> then apt-get update.

With the package from testing the imonlcd driver is available :-D
I've already tested it and it works. Thanks alot for your help!

If I understand the idea behind backports correct wouldn't it be useful 
to have this package in there too?


>> I found help on how to compile it with the needed driver. Just ./
>> configure --driver=imonlcd or something like that. I'd have to search
>> again.
>> As well in the Ubuntu 10.04 repos lcdproc came with imonlcd support.
> 
> See my comments above about the last two upstream releases of lcdproc.
> The best place for the source is the source - I've put the ref below,
> you can build that as a debian package. I'd check dependencies first.

I'm glad that it works so I think there's no need to compile anything?


>> So my question is if or how can I install the driver without having to
>> compile after each kernel upgrade?
>> Probably it would be best to have it in the squeeze backports?
>
> Upstream:-
> http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/


Thanks again!
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Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 21:35, Alex Hutton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm running a dual monitor setup with fglrx.
> 
> I have upgraded from Squeeze 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 and after reboot I only
> have a one monitor desktop.
> 
> I am wondering if anyone could tell me where my old xorg.conf went to?

No idea - did you create one? Or are you just assuming you had one, and
now that your dual monitor setup is no longer working, assuming the
point release broke it?

Did you not make a backup?

I've run the latest point release on half a dozen Squeeze boxen running
KDE or Fluxbox - all use an xorg.conf, none had any problems.

I've never had a point release eat a file (in decades) - and every time
a config file is modified I've been prompted to chose which version to keep.

Relevant parts to the updates common to all my boxen updated so far:-
The following packages will be upgraded:
x11-common xorg xserver-common xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core
xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-video-all

I stepped through one of the updates and can't work out how your
xorg.conf could possibly have been affected.

I suggest you try restarting your xserver (or rebooting).

> 
> And is there a way to configure apt so that upgrades stop clobbering
> my xorg.conf?

Why - seems like developing a strategy for dealing with an invasion of
little green men? ;-p

A. no-one else has reported the problem - seems unlikely the point
release picked on you alone.
B. $ cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf ~/

> 
> Cheers,
> Alex
> 
> 

Now would be a good time to consider a backup policy. :-)


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Re: creating (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 10:25, lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> is there a Debian package with software that helps in creating
> (thumbnail) images *of* (not for) web pages?

NAFAIK

>  Like something that instead
> of displaying a web page on screen as a web browser does creates an
> image file that can be saved to disk (and then be resized to a
> thumbnail)?
> 
> Maybe there´s a web browser that has this functionality already built
> in?
> 
> 
Try Iceweasel extensions/plugins for something that already does the job
- or use wget to scrape the thumbnails from Google search results, or
make your own script as a plugin that calls imagemagik and does the same
thing for you.


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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 20:48, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> 
>> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu which
>>> I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the display
>>> working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/ LCDd.conf to
>>> imonlcd.
>>> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver isn't
>>> available.
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Ramon
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> # apt-get install lcdproc
>> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/lcdproc pool/main/l/lcdproc/
>>
>> Did I miss something there?
> 
> Sorry wrong button :-o
> 
> The drivers that are included in lcdproc are:
> 
> # The following drivers are supported:
> #   bayrad, CFontz, CFontz633, CFontzPacket, curses, CwLnx, ea65,
> #   EyeboxOne, g15, glcdlib, glk, hd44780, icp_a106, imon, IOWarrior,
> #   irman, joy, lb216, lcdm001, lcterm, lirc, MD8800, ms6931, mtc_s16209x,
> #   MtxOrb, NoritakeVFD, picolcd, pyramid, sed1330, sed1520, serialPOS,
> #   serialVFD, sli, stv5730, svga, t6963, text, tyan, ula200, xosd
> 
> 
> But I need imonlcd and not imon.

Are you sure?
http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Imon (specifically "lcdproc 0.5.3 appears to
include the imonlcd patch set.")

That could mean that imon in Wheezy's lcdproc is the same as imonlcd.
It's not listed in Wheezy lcdproc-extra-drivers.

You could try the Sid package eg:-
add testing to your sources list
# apt-get update
# apt-get -st unstable install lcdproc | less

And just see what's going to happen (it may not require backporting -
you don't say which kernel version you're running)

If looks ok just proceed.

Don't forget to remove testing from /etc/apt/sources.list afterwards and
then apt-get update.



> 
> I found help on how to compile it with the needed driver. Just ./
> configure --driver=imonlcd or something like that. I'd have to search 
> again.
> As well in the Ubuntu 10.04 repos lcdproc came with imonlcd support.

See my comments above about the last two upstream releases of lcdproc.
The best place for the source is the source - I've put the ref below,
you can build that as a debian package. I'd check dependencies first.

> 
> So my question is if or how can I install the driver without having to 
> compile after each kernel upgrade?
> Probably it would be best to have it in the squeeze backports?
> 
> 
> Best regards
> Ramon
> 
> 

Upstream:-
http://lcdproc.omnipotent.net/


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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Michael Lange
Thus spoketh "Thomas H. George"  
unto us on Sun, 29 Jan 2012 21:00:54 -0500:

> Incidently, none of the other proposed solutions work.  There is no
> xorg.conf any more or at least it is no longer needed.

Sorry, I should have mentioned this, if you need an xorg.conf you can
create one with default values by running
$ Xorg -configure
as root, then it will create one in /root which you simply can copy
to /etc/X11 .


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Re: Accented Characters - How to type from standard keyboard?

2012-01-30 Thread Lisi
On Monday 30 January 2012 02:00:54 Thomas H. George wrote:
> I was trying to use
> directory completion as the directory in question was extremely long and
> that didn't work.

When I try to use tab completion and it fails it has always been because of 
some typo I had made.

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Re: Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread Alexey Eromenko
hmmm... ?
First time I heard that a point update could cause it...

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Re:Gpm Eats the Disk

2012-01-30 Thread David Baron
On Monday 30 January 2012 11:50:45 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org 
wrote:
> * David Baron  schrieb:
> > Gpm starts spewing error messages  syslog and daemon.log grow and grow
> > quickly  filling the /var filesystem's partition. I mean 10's of
> > gigabytes. The system still works but is now crippled, anything really
> > needing /var like mail is borked. So is ext3 journaling.
> 
> Which messages exactly ?

Messages about (missing?) mouse events. Honestly, I have not actually read 
them in a long time (as I said, this is not a new problem).

> Have you already talked to upstream (Nico Schottelius) ?

No, maybe forward, get him in touch or give me the email.


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Squeeze 6.0.3 -> 6.0.4 broke my Xorg

2012-01-30 Thread Alex Hutton
Hi,

I'm running a dual monitor setup with fglrx.

I have upgraded from Squeeze 6.0.3 to 6.0.4 and after reboot I only
have a one monitor desktop.

I am wondering if anyone could tell me where my old xorg.conf went to?

And is there a way to configure apt so that upgrades stop clobbering
my xorg.conf?

Cheers,
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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread Jochen Spieker
lina:
> 
> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
> finished, a new job can continue,

Xargs can be used for this. An exmaple:

$ seq 1 100 | xargs -n1 -P8 echo

Seq prints the numbers from 1 to 100 (one per line) and xargs starts an
echo for each argument with 8 invocations in parallel.

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Re: how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 6:06 PM, lina  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ( sorry if it a bit off-topic)
>
> I have a script like
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> for i in {0..108}
> do
>
> some job will run for mins &
>
> done
>
> Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
> but there is a problem,
>
> I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
> finished, a new job can continue,
>
> Some suggestions?

#!/bin/bash

for i in {0..19}
do
sleep 60 &

while ($((ps au | grep sleep | wc -l)) > 9)
do
sleep 2
done

done

sorry the subject of the email should be "refrain using too many
processors at the same time."

above one not working, complained:

.sh: line 8: ps au | grep sleep | wc -l: syntax error in expression
(error token is "au | grep sleep | wc -l")


>
> Thanks,


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Re: KVM virtualisation

2012-01-30 Thread Tim Rühsen
Hi James,

looks like you didn't set the DISPLAY variable:
> Cannot open display:

In my setup I have to 'xhost +localhost' as the desktop user.
As root: export DISPLAY=:0

Good luck.

Tim Ruehsen

Am Wednesday, 25. January 2012 schrieb James Allsopp:
> Hi,
> I'm having trouble building a kvm virtual machine, The script I'm using
> to build this is:
> #!/bin/bash
> virt-install \
> --connect qemu:///system \
> -n deb1 \
> -r 512 \
> --vcpus=1 \
> --os-variant=debiansqueeze \
> --accelerate \
> -v \
> -c /var/lib/libvirt/images/debian-6.0.3-amd64-netinst.iso \
> -w bridge:br0 \
> --vnc \
> --disk path=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debiantest.img,size=4
> 
> 
> but when I run I get the following error, I've tried to debug this
> afterwards;
> 
> awaiian:/home/ja/vm_kvm# ./kvmInstall
> 
> 
> Starting install...
> Allocating 'debiantest.img'  | 4.0 GB
> 00:00
> Creating domain...   |0 B
> 00:00
> Cannot open display:
> Run 'virt-viewer --help' to see a full list of available command line
> options
> Domain installation does not appear to have been
>   successful.  If it was, you can restart your domain
>   by running 'virsh start deb1'; otherwise, please
>   restart your installation.
> Hawaiian:/home/ja/vm_kvm# virsh start deb1
> error: failed to get domain 'deb1'
> error: Unknown failure
> 
> Hawaiian:/home/ja/vm_kvm# virsh
> Welcome to virsh, the virtualization interactive terminal.
> 
> Type:  'help' for help with commands
> 'quit' to quit
> 
> virsh # nodeinfo
> CPU model:   x86_64
> CPU(s):  2
> CPU frequency:   2000 MHz
> CPU socket(s):   1
> Core(s) per socket:  2
> Thread(s) per core:  1
> NUMA cell(s):1
> Memory size: 4061292 kB
> 
> virsh # list --al
> error: command 'list' doesn't support option --al
> virsh # list --all
>   Id Name State
> --
> 
> virsh # net-list --all
> Name State  Autostart
> -
> vboxnet0 inactive   no autostart
> 
> virsh # net-edit default
> error: failed to get network 'default'
> error: Unknown failure
> 
> virsh # quit
> 
> Hawaiian:/home/ja/vm_kvm# virsh
> Welcome to virsh, the virtualization interactive terminal.
> 
> Type:  'help' for help with commands
> 'quit' to quit
> 
> virsh # net-autostart default
> error: failed to get network 'default'
> error: Unknown failure
> 
> 
> 
> If anyone can offer me any help on how to fix this I'd be really grateful,
> 
> James
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how to refrain only use certain number of processors

2012-01-30 Thread lina
Hi,

( sorry if it a bit off-topic)

I have a script like

#!/bin/bash

for i in {0..108}
do

some job will run for mins &

done

Here I used & for some kinda of parallel.
but there is a problem,

I wished at most it only run 8 jobs simultantly, no more than 8, once
finished, a new job can continue,

Some suggestions?

Thanks,


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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu which
>> I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the display
>> working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/ LCDd.conf to
>> imonlcd.
>> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver isn't
>> available.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Best regards
>> Ramon
>> 
>> 
>> 
> # apt-get install lcdproc
> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/lcdproc pool/main/l/lcdproc/
> 
> Did I miss something there?

Sorry wrong button :-o

The drivers that are included in lcdproc are:

# The following drivers are supported:
#   bayrad, CFontz, CFontz633, CFontzPacket, curses, CwLnx, ea65,
#   EyeboxOne, g15, glcdlib, glk, hd44780, icp_a106, imon, IOWarrior,
#   irman, joy, lb216, lcdm001, lcterm, lirc, MD8800, ms6931, mtc_s16209x,
#   MtxOrb, NoritakeVFD, picolcd, pyramid, sed1330, sed1520, serialPOS,
#   serialVFD, sli, stv5730, svga, t6963, text, tyan, ula200, xosd


But I need imonlcd and not imon.

I found help on how to compile it with the needed driver. Just ./
configure --driver=imonlcd or something like that. I'd have to search 
again.
As well in the Ubuntu 10.04 repos lcdproc came with imonlcd support.

So my question is if or how can I install the driver without having to 
compile after each kernel upgrade?
Probably it would be best to have it in the squeeze backports?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: how to get gdm3 greeter to display menu of hosts for remote login via xdmcp

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 17:01, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> How do I get the gnome3 greeter to give me a menu of hosts on the local
> network who are willing to accept an xdmcp login?
> 
> On my "squeeze" machines running gdm, at the login screen there is a
> drop-down called "Actions" that has one option called "Remote login via
> xdmcp".  When I choose that option, I get a list of hosts on the local
> network who are willing to accept logins via xdmcp.
> 
> But on my "wheeze" machine, first of all there's no "Actions" drop down
> at all, and I can't find any other way to get the list of xdmcp
> accepting hosts.
> 
> Does anyone know what magic I'm missing?  Is there something I can put
> into one of the files in /etc/gdm3/ that will enable the remote host
> chooser?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
I'm not familiar with GNOME, there are no listed bugs - perhaps these
will be useful:-
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO/procedure.html
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/XDMCP-HOWTO.html

You could also try the upstream GNOME docs.

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Re: lcdproc missing driver imonlcd in squeeze

2012-01-30 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 13:03:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:

> On 29/01/12 23:12, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I'm trying to configure a Soundgraph 15c2:0038 display. In Ubuntu which
>> I had running before on that PC it was very easy to get the display
>> working: Install lcdproc and change the driver in /etc/ LCDd.conf to
>> imonlcd.
>> Unfortunately this isn't possible in squeeze because this driver isn't
>> available.
> 
> # apt-get install lcdproc
> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/lcdproc pool/main/l/lcdproc/
> 
> Did I miss something there?

Hi Scott.
Thanks for your answer!

Sorry I wasn't clear.
In the lcdproc package there are drivers for several LCDs included. From 
LCDd.conf: 


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Re: Software-upgrades not installable due to APT-misconfiguration ?

2012-01-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
[Please reply instead of writing new messages, it makes it easier to 
follow]

On Lu, 30 ian 12, 07:14:19, Andreas Glaeser wrote:

[...]

You don't have lenny-backports in your sources.list and the 
corresponding pin is not needed anymore (not even for 
squeeze-backports), please remove it.
 
> The testing distribution is in my sources.list only to get updates for the 
> current
> testing-kernel. Only two minor dependencies were pulled in when installing it.

Backports has 3.2, which according to 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/01/msg00012.html is 
going to be the next stable kernel ;)

First I would suggest you install 3.2 from backports, reboot to use it 
and then remove any trace of testing/wheezy from your system 
(apt-show-versions is good for this, or aptitude if you know the search 
patterns). Also remove the pin and the sources.list entry.

If your system still won't upgrade cleanly after this please post 
'apt-cache policy' output for each of the packages to be upgraded.

BTW, it helps a lot if you keep output formating. If you mail client 
pretends to know better you can output to a file and attach it instea:

$ apt-cache policy foo > foo.policy # and attach foo.policy

Hope this helps,
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Re: Gnome3 login failure

2012-01-30 Thread richard
On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 09:47:52 +0100
Sebastian Steinhuber  wrote:

> Am 24.01.2012 15:56, schrieb Richard:
> > Hi
> > 
> > Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second
> > that dreaded something has gone wrong message and to logout.
> > Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files
> > will cause them to be recreated on login ?
> > Or any other ideas ???
> > TIA
> 
> You may also want to try to rename/remove
> ~/.config/dconf/user
> ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
> in case gnome3's extensions don't load as expected.
> 
> Sebastian
> 
> 

Hi Sebastian

The extensions may have a part in it, on this laptop there is an extension to
display power off instead of suspend, and that has ceased to function.
But that could be part of something else. Gnome3 is new and these problems are
very small in comparison to what it does, but annoying.
Its not distribution dependent, which is a good thing as more will complain
about the problem.

Thanks

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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 30/01/12 16:47, Harshad Joshi wrote:
> I am not getting replies to mails i am sending on this list. i have to
> manually check or refer google to get answers..
> 
> can someone look in this matter?
> 
> -- 
> Harshad Joshi
> 
> 
The list server does send replies - gmail (a free service provided by
Google) does not put emails in your account that have the same content
and subject as emails you have sent. I presume the reason is financial.
If the email you sent to the list is rejected by the list you should
receive a notification which gmail will display.
The easiest way to check that your email to the list has been processed
is to check:-
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent

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Please allow at least half an hour between posting and checking.
NOTE: it is very, very rare for your posts to the list not to be published.

You can set up a separate free webmail account and use it as the replyto
address in emails to the list from your gmail account, then set up
forwarding from that account to your gmail account.

You can set up your own email server, or purchase an email service
somewhere. I don't know if other free webmail services display list
posting either - perhaps other users can advise.

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Re: getting source packages with synaptic

2012-01-30 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 29/01/12 21:27, Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Du, 29 ian 12, 18:55:00, Tony van der Hoff wrote:


Much googling on the subject suggests that it might not be possible
to do that. Anyone know whether that's true, if so, why, and if not
how can I do it?


Probably nobody bothered to implement the feature since people hacking
on source code usually don't mind using the command line ;)

Thanks, Andrei. It's what I guessed. Maybe I'll have a go at hacking 
synaptic source code ;)



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Re: Not getting mails in inbox

2012-01-30 Thread Chen Wei
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 11:17:12AM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote:
> I am not getting replies to mails i am sending on this list. i have to
> manually check or refer google to get answers..
> 
> can someone look in this matter?

it is a feature of Gmail :)
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=6588


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Re: Gnome3 login failure

2012-01-30 Thread Sebastian Steinhuber
Am 24.01.2012 15:56, schrieb Richard:
> Hi
> 
> Out of the blue, when I try to login to the shell I get after a few second 
> that dreaded something has
> gone wrong message and to logout.
> Is Gnome3 similar in behaviour to Gnome2 that removing the .gnome files will 
> cause them to be recreated
> on login ?
> Or any other ideas ???
> TIA

You may also want to try to rename/remove
~/.config/dconf/user
~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/
in case gnome3's extensions don't load as expected.

Sebastian


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