Re: Random display freezes [was: Less responsive input...blind-typing]
Hi, * Osamu Aoki [120602 21:24]: > Since you are on sid, I was wondering if this is some regression of > mounting /tmp as tmpfs (not-exactly RAMDISK but practically the same. > tmpfs may be swapped out to harddisk, though.) > You said ... > >>> This is up-to-date Sid on an X200s ThinkPad, running Screen in a > >>> framebuffer console. > > Anyway, try disabling tmpfs first by editting /etc/default/rcS nd restart. > You seem to be on low memory system. My /etc/default/rcS file has only this: TMPTIME=0 SULOGIN=no DELAYLOGIN=no #UTC=no # OBSOLETE; see /etc/adjtime and hwclock(8). VERBOSE=no FSCKFIX=no RAMRUN=no RAMLOCK=no ...don't see anywhere to explicitly disable tmpfs. The output of `mount` seems to indicate that only /run is mounted tmpfs. Also, I'm not on a particularly low memory system: % free -h total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 2.9G 1.3G 1.6G 0B21M 975M -/+ buffers/cache: 303M 2.6G Swap: 0B 0B 0B I'm running a stripped-down setup using Screen in a framebuffer console because that's what I've gotten used to over the years & I've optimized it to my needs. Typically this uses ~300-500MB of ram max. > Also check screen bug pages. Thare are may bug reported. > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=screen Didn't see anything on that page that might relate to this issue. I just now switched over to another framebuffer VT (not running Screen) and experienced the same 3-second freezes happening fairly regularly. I've also seen this behavior in an xterm. The only way I can get this freezing to stop is to get off battery power and plug into AC. Pretty sure this has to do with the hard-disk spinning continually. Maybe changing out the HD for a fast SSD would solve the problem while running on battery? Seems like there should be another way... Regards, John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120603063754.ga...@s70206.gridserver.com
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:24:22 -0500 "Christofer C. Bell" napísal: > The point, however, is that there is no file transfer method that > meets her requirements. > > 1. No dedicated server (no web, no sftp, no ftp, NFS, Samba, etc). > 2. No usernames/logins (no sftp, scp, no ftp, etc, see above) > 3. No chat protocols (no IM, no IRC) > 4. No external 3rd party service (dropbox, etc) > 5. No email (messages are too large). IMHO, it seems, as he break some computer (or get access without owner's knowledge) and he want upload files to it now. No download is required, because there is no one, who will be download the file. No dedicated server, to regular (not expert) user have trouble find it. No mail nor IM, because here is no regular account on another side... No external service, because it need some interaction... regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Help identifying an old wireless card
On Sb, 02 iun 12, 23:02:15, Michael Mehrazar wrote: > Arnt, > > I apologize for not emailing earlier, I was away and did not have access > to the old laptop. > > Anyways, here is the link to the dmesg. (http://paste.debian.net/172593/) Unrelated: [8.517526] radeon_cp: Failed to load firmware "radeon/R100_cp.bin" [8.517583] [drm:r100_cp_init] *ERROR* Failed to load firmware! [8.517634] radeon :01:00.0: failled initializing CP (-2). [8.517683] radeon :01:00.0: Disabling GPU acceleration You can get rid of this by installing firmare-linux-nofree (from non-free of course). It seems your card is PCMCIA (please mention such details in the future) and the driver complains about missing firmware... [ 10.387667] orinoco_cs 2.0: Firmware determined as Lucent/Agere 8.10 [ 10.388565] orinoco_cs 2.0: firmware: requesting agere_sta_fw.bin [ 10.393849] orinoco_cs 2.0: firmware: requesting agere_sta_fw.bin [ 10.400370] orinoco_cs 2.0: Cannot find firmware agere_sta_fw.bin ... which seems to be in the same firmware-linux-nonfree package. Install that and repost your dmesg if you still have troubles. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Re: Computer case
* Ralf Mardorf [120603 02:51]: > [1] I still need to check the current prices for wood etc.. Of course, > building a rack made of wood from the bulk garbage still would be less > expensive. > FWIW I don't need something as stable as a flight case. I still own one > professional flightcase, bought it 30 years ago and I don't like it due > to it's weight. The HOWTO which I provided is the approach which I take when I need something in a hurry and cannot afford a commercial rack. Yes, it is ugly. Yes, it is heavy. Yes, drilling the holes and putting in the screws one-by-one the first time is a pain. But if you have a little scrap lumber in the garage, the approach is cheap, and it gives you a rack in one evening, maybe two. Finally, it gives you a rack of precisely the height you need. One advantage which a homebuilt wooden rack has over most commercial steel racks is that you can recess the gear, so that knobs are protected from accidental impacts. And for gear such as a headphone amplifier with front-panel 1/4-inch phone jacks, I may recess the rails as much as two inches, to guard against accidental impact on the phone plugs -- because a hard knock on the phone plug can damage the phone jack in the rack gear. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120603051811.GA2508@cromwell.tmiaf
Re: Random display freezes [was: Less responsive input...blind-typing]
Hi, On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:45:12PM -0700, John Magolske wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the reply. > > * Osamu Aoki [120602 09:53]: > > Where is your /tmp mounted. > > Under the main filesystem. Are you thinking of suggesting I mount > /tmp as a ramdisk? Since you are on sid, I was wondering if this is some regression of mounting /tmp as tmpfs (not-exactly RAMDISK but practically the same. tmpfs may be swapped out to harddisk, though.) > > Please post "mount" output. > > ~ % mount > rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) > proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) > udev on /dev type devtmpfs > (rw,relatime,size=1498260k,nr_inodes=217054,mode=755) > devpts on /dev/pts type devpts > (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) > tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=300952k,mode=755) > /dev/disk/by-uuid/---- on / type ext3 > (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=5,barrier=1,data=ordered) > proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) > sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) > tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=601900k) > fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime) > debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime) > binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc > (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) Hmmm OK. Not much different as here. udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1974800k,nr_inodes=493700,mode=755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=396680k,mode=755) /dev/mapper/Y-X on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,acl,commit=600,barrier=1,data=ordered,discard) tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k) proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=793360k) /dev/sda1 on /boot type ext4 (rw,noatime,user_xattr,acl,commit=600,barrier=1,data=ordered,discard) none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw,relatime) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) You said ... >>> This is up-to-date Sid on an X200s ThinkPad, running Screen in a >>> framebuffer console. Anyway, try disabling tmpfs first by editting /etc/default/rcS nd restart. You seem to be on low memory system. Also check screen bug pages. Thare are may bug reported. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=screen Check this problem is screen related or not. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120603034916.GC25941@localhost
Re: xml editor ?
On 02/06/12 10:23 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote: On 03/06/12 09:52, Frank McCormick wrote: I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's configuration file. Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the "best" GUI editor which handles XML ?? Thanks XML Copy Editor (Squeeze v1.2.0.6) # apt-get install xmlcopyeditor KATE, and Kwrite also do an excellent job with XML markup. Xmlcopyeditor looks nice - I'll have a good look at it tomorrow. Thanks -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcadb61.3030...@videotron.ca
Re: Help identifying an old wireless card
Arnt, I apologize for not emailing earlier, I was away and did not have access to the old laptop. Anyways, here is the link to the dmesg. (http://paste.debian.net/172593/) I also feel I should clarify. I am pretty sure my wireless network card is not broken, because I can still access WIFI networks. However, the trouble is it can only utilize WEP encryption, not WPA/2. That is because it's an old card. (2002-04) I want to see what my wireless card is, to see if there were any updated drivers that would allow it to access WPA/2. There are probably not any such drivers, but I thought I would make sure before considering buying a new card. I probably should have included that in the original email. Anyway, thank you all very much. Michael Mehrazar On 05/25/2012 07:36 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Fri, 25 May 2012 09:00:21 -0800, Greg wrote in message > <201205250900.21839.gomadtr...@gci.net>: > > >> >> On Friday 25 May 2012 7:34:07 am Brian wrote: >> >>> On Fri 25 May 2012 at 10:46:29 -0400, Michael Mehrazar wrote: >>> Andrei, Thank you. It's attached. >>> Still no wireless card in there. 'lsusb' if it is a USB device. >>> >> If the a card is broken somehow, , ls* won't show the device, modules >> will not load etc. >> > ..we don't know that yet. OP, put your dmesg on pastebin and > post the link here, if lsusb fails to list your device. > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcad3b7.7090...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Computer case
Thank you :) I'll read the howto later. I guess I'll buy a 19" cabinet from a German music gear dealer, since a friend bought an elCheapo, but high quality rack there sometime ago. It's as stable as an expensive rack, but cost less than building one myself [1]. For example http://www.thomann.de/gb/millenium_sr2024.htm ( http://www.thomann.de/de/millenium_sr2024.htm ), dunno if it's the rack the friend bought, I guess his rack is higher, around 160cm and perhaps is able to carry more than 80kg. ( http://www.thomann.de/de/thon_20he_studiorack.htm , http://www.thomann.de/de/thon_studiorack_16he.htm ) Regards, Ralf [1] I still need to check the current prices for wood etc.. Of course, building a rack made of wood from the bulk garbage still would be less expensive. FWIW I don't need something as stable as a flight case. I still own one professional flightcase, bought it 30 years ago and I don't like it due to it's weight. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338691727.2317.15.camel@precise
Re: OT Seach for Elaborate Address Book Program
Thomas H. George wrote: > > Any suggestions of other programs to consider? > I am just using gmail contacts and it satisfies my day-to-day needs for an addressbook. Also, it is integrated with google voice. So making calls, linking email IDs, phone numbers etc., is super easy. Since it is web based, it is available on any computer with internet connection. I am aware that not everyone is comfortable storing their information in 3rd party servers. But I have not really found an open source alternative that offers this many features. So I am sticking with it (at least for now). raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jqei7f$vvk$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: xml editor ?
On 03/06/12 09:52, Frank McCormick wrote: > > I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's > configuration file. > Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the > "best" GUI editor which handles XML ?? > > Thanks > > XML Copy Editor (Squeeze v1.2.0.6) # apt-get install xmlcopyeditor KATE, and Kwrite also do an excellent job with XML markup. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to questions about Debian:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcaca88.3060...@gmail.com
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 03:16:19PM +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Aubrey Raech wrote: > > Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to > > a friend directly [...] > > > 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) > > 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) > > 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) > > > - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably be the best bet > > for this... > > But in #3 above you've just excluded XMPP. Do you want it or not? > > > is there no program you can run with something like a - --listen to > > listen for a connection on one end, and then run the program with the > > destination IP from the other? Something along those lines? > > Yes. A "proper" server (http, ftp, ssh) would satisfy this requirement > but you've excluded those with #1, #2. If your PCs can have Internet > facing ports configured, I'd go for ssh/rsync every time. > I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login like this: > 1. One (or both) of you configure your router/firewall to accept inbound > TCP connections from (say) port 10022 and route them to your > Linux-based PC on port 22. If you can't redirect port 10022 to port > 22 then just forward port 10022 and create a firewall rule on your > Linux-based PC to rewrite inbound requests on 10022 to local port > 22. (Come back here if you need help with that.) > That's a good idea, in my opinion, to not expose port 22 directly. It reduces the effectiveness of script kiddies. > 2. Consider the use of DDNS services such as those provided by dyndns.org > to make your IP address available by name to your friend. > Agreed. > 3. Install the openssh-server package > Agreed. > 4. Configure /etc/ssh/sshd_config, adding an AllowGroups line such > as this: > > AllowGroups sshuser > It's simpler to just AllowUsers user1 user2 user3 > 5. Put your and your friend's user accounts into the sshuser group: > > groupadd sshuser > usermod -a -G sshuser YOURUSERNAME > usermod -a -G sshuser YOURFRIENDSUSERNAME > This won't be needed if you follow my advice on step 4 > 6. Make sure that your password, and your friend's password on your > machine, is sufficiently complex that others are unlikely to guess it. > Always a good idea, but the risk is lessened by forcing sftp (and not posting any sensitive data on the sftp site) > 7. Use rsync (over ssh) or sftp to copy the files. Remember to tell them > to use port 10022 (or whatever you decided in #1) instead of the > default port 22. > Instead of using rsync, use FileZilla or another FTP client. But first you must add this to your sshd_config file: Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server #this line probably already exists -- check for it Match user user1,user3 #you can omit this if you want it to apply to all users ChrootDirectory /srv/sftp_folder #this folder must be owned by root and writeable only by root X11Forwarding no AllowTcpForwarding no ForceCommand internal-sftp -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120603015043.ga12...@aurora.owens.net
Re: GPT preseed [ almost solved ]
Final recipe is:
d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string physics-workstation :: \
32 32 32 free \
$gptonly{ }\
$primary{ }\
$bios_boot{ } \
method{ biosgrub } \
. \
1600 1000 1600 linux-swap\
$gptonly{ }\
$primary{ }\
method{ swap } format{ } \
. \
25500 9000 2 xfs \
$gptonly{ }\
$primary{ }\
method{ format } format{ } \
use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ xfs }\
mountpoint{ / }\
.
and the output:
# gdisk -l /dev/vda
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.4
Partition table scan:
MBR: protective
BSD: not present
APM: not present
GPT: present
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
Disk /dev/vda: 335544320 sectors, 160.0 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 2A256643-D59F-4B71-B796-9137E7241FE9
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 335544286
Partitions will be aligned on 1-sector boundaries
Total free space is 0 sectors (0 bytes)
Number Start (sector)End (sector) Size Code Name
1 34 62534 30.5 MiBEF02
2 62535 3187535 1.5 GiB 8200
3 318753652992223 23.7 GiB0700
31.05.2012, 13:16, "Tom H" :
> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Darren Baginski wrote:
>
>> I've added lines below and got GPT on a empty 160GB hard drive. Thanks Tom!
>> Need to understand which of them really needed.
>> Will use your debugging hint for keymap selection.
>>
>> d-i partman-basicfilesystems/choose_label string gpt
>> d-i partman-basicfilesystems/default_label string gpt
>> d-i partman-partitioning/choose_label string gpt
>> d-i partman-partitioning/default_label string gpt
>> d-i partman/choose_label string gpt
>> d-i partman/default_label string gpt
>> partman-partitioning partman-partitioning/choose_label select gpt
>> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string physics-workstation :: \
>> 32 32 32 free \
>> $gptonly{ } \
>> $primary{ } \
>> $bios_boot{ } \
>> method{ biosgrub } \
>> . \
>> 16000 1000 16000 linux-swap \
>> $gptonly{ } \
>> $primary{ } \
>> method{ swap } format{ } \
>> . \
>> 500 1000 -1 xfs \
>> $gptonly{ } \
>> $primary{ } \
>> method{ format } format{ } \
>> use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ xfs } \
>> mountpoint{ / } \
>> .
>
> You're welcome. It's good to know that a gpt label can be created via
> preseed. :)
>
> What's the output of "parted -l /dev/sda" or "gdisk -l /dev/sda" after
> this install?
>
> (BTW, you don't need the backslashes in the partitioning section -
> although I think that you might need it after the "::".)
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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
here's another interesting one: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html From the description: --- Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different approach. It assumes that everybody has a web-browser or a commandline web-client installed. Woof is a small simple stupid webserver that can easily be invoked on a single file. Your partner can access the file with tools he trusts (e.g. wget). No need to enter passwords on keyboards where you don't know about keyboard sniffers, no need to start a huge lot of infrastructure, just do a $ woof filename and tell the recipient the URL woof spits out. When he got that file, woof will quit and everything is done. -- Requires Python to run, and obviously needs to run on a machine where people can access the resulting URL (DNS listing, IP address accessible to the outside world, etc.). -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcab8c3.7080...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Christofer C. Bell wrote: That's just it. Using anything *other* than ssh is a "waste of time and effort" most of the time as ssh requires no setup and effort to use out of the box not only in Debian but any modern Linux/Unix. *Everything else* requires effort to setup and use. The point, however, is that there is no file transfer method that meets her requirements. 1. No dedicated server (no web, no sftp, no ftp, NFS, Samba, etc). 2. No usernames/logins (no sftp, scp, no ftp, etc, see above) 3. No chat protocols (no IM, no IRC) 4. No external 3rd party service (dropbox, etc) 5. No email (messages are too large). There is no way to get a file from her machine to her friend's machine without violating at least 1 or more of these requirements (at least over a network). All I can suggest is a USB stick/CD-R and postal mail. exactly! That said, there have been a number of suggestions towards modifying the OP's requirements and I'm interested in seeing the reasoning behind the requirements themselves. Aubrey hasn't replied yet and I think there's value in giving her an opportunity to respond, clarify and perhaps narrow her requirements, and allow us to provide better advice. The fact is, with the requirements set as they are, there is no possible solution (see below) to her problem. As I mentioned earlier - the easiest solution I've found, for both sender and recipient, is a file upload/mail service like yousendit or filemail. After a LOT of looking, I managed to find a GPL package that does the same thing: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/ - GPL'd source version: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/fex.html - Debian Package: http://packages.debian.org/sid/fex (this is a Debian list after all!) - hosted version: http://fex.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/fup And... XKCD captures the whole problem perfectly at http://xkcd.com/949/ (courtesy of the fex site) Mile Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcab39b.8000...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one thing. 1. Why would the client have to configure the router? He doesn't, but I was trying not to nit-pick the post I replied to and concentrate instead on pointing out using ssh is a waste of time and effort in the circumstances as we know them. Just for reference... installing PuTTY and/or PSCP and/or PSFTP on windows is pretty darned trivial - download the .exe file and you're done. Takes about 10 seconds (I carry PuTTY on a memory stick for access to our server farm, from pretty much any nearby machine). Or install FireFTP as a FireFox plugin. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcaa808.8090...@meetinghouse.net
xml editor ?
I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's configuration file. Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the "best" GUI editor which handles XML ?? Thanks -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fcaa731.2080...@videotron.ca
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: >> > >> > There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The >> > idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh >> > (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one >> > thing. >> >> 1. Why would the client have to configure the router? > > He doesn't, but I was trying not to nit-pick the post I replied to and > concentrate instead on pointing out using ssh is a waste of time and > effort in the circumstances as we know them. That's just it. Using anything *other* than ssh is a "waste of time and effort" most of the time as ssh requires no setup and effort to use out of the box not only in Debian but any modern Linux/Unix. *Everything else* requires effort to setup and use. The point, however, is that there is no file transfer method that meets her requirements. 1. No dedicated server (no web, no sftp, no ftp, NFS, Samba, etc). 2. No usernames/logins (no sftp, scp, no ftp, etc, see above) 3. No chat protocols (no IM, no IRC) 4. No external 3rd party service (dropbox, etc) 5. No email (messages are too large). There is no way to get a file from her machine to her friend's machine without violating at least 1 or more of these requirements (at least over a network). All I can suggest is a USB stick/CD-R and postal mail. That said, there have been a number of suggestions towards modifying the OP's requirements and I'm interested in seeing the reasoning behind the requirements themselves. Aubrey hasn't replied yet and I think there's value in giving her an opportunity to respond, clarify and perhaps narrow her requirements, and allow us to provide better advice. The fact is, with the requirements set as they are, there is no possible solution (see below) to her problem. (Yes, I did see someone suggest nc (possible alternative: socat). While that *does* meet the OP's initial set of requirements, that's not really much of a "solution"...) ;-) -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caoevnyvmg_zac4m0l6rv7sjof1j5b80d6gkqfd9syvexrjx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: The permissions of the apache2 log dir
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Titanus Eramius wrote: > Hi list > > Last week i ran into the very restrictive folder permissions of the > apache2 log dir. They where "drwxr-x--- root adm" but I changed them > to "rwxr-xr-x root adm" so a unprivileged user may opdate webalizer[1] > at night. > > That got me thinking (which I generally don't like...), does anyone > know why the permissions are so strict, and is there a risk in the > change I've made beside that everybody now may read the logs? > > The answer seems to elude me. The answer eludes you because... that's it! There's no other risk to what you've done. That said, I went the other way and stuck my user account in the adm group so I could read logs. -- Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caoevnyvrkyq1emq-fko7i31e9rkui+8eeyxhjesqrrkp-df...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 22:48:57 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: > > > > There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The > > idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh > > (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one > > thing. > > 1. Why would the client have to configure the router? He doesn't, but I was trying not to nit-pick the post I replied to and concentrate instead on pointing out using ssh is a waste of time and effort in the circumstances as we know them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602223955.GO2847@desktop
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:27:15 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Brian wrote: > > I guess it depends on which packages you tell the installer to load. > One of the options is "web server," but I haven't set up a desktop > installation lately (all my Debian is server-side), so I'm not really > sure if a web server is part of the standard desktop configuration, but > it's certainly one of the options. It isn't part of the standard desktop configuration. > The original poster said the want to "send" a file to someone, as > opposed to "make available for download." Now if I'm sending a file > from one linux machine to another, scp is a pretty straightforward way > to do it from the command line, and scp runs over ssh. I don't think the OP really knows what he needs to do to achieve his ends. People are often lax in not distinguishing between making a file available and sending it. > Not sure why you consider ssh to be "over the top" - anybody in their > right mind turns off telnet and ftp as the first step in securing a new > installation - in favor of ssh and sftp. Telnetd and ftpd are not installed on a new installation, so how do you turn them off? telnet and ftp are installed but you do not have to use them. ssh is overkill for the OP if he only wants to make files available for download. If they contained state secrets I might go along with you and advise the more complicated and time-consuming procedure of setting up ssh on both machines is worth it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602221609.GN2847@desktop
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Chris wrote: > On 6/2/2012 8:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: > > -aft writes: > >> So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? > > > > Yes. At least 99% of the mail that hits the servers is rejected as > > spam. > > "At least 99%" ?!?! Umm, my math sux but... Clearly it does. "At least 99%" means "Greater than or equal to 99%". In other words 99% and 100%, of course, but 99.1%, 99.2%... 99.15%, 99.241234% and so on. Nothing wrong with the term "At least 99%". signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sb, 02 iun 12, 18:12:03, Brian wrote: > > There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The > idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh > (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one > thing. 1. Why would the client have to configure the router? 2. WinSCP, FileZilla, etc. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
The permissions of the apache2 log dir
Hi list Last week i ran into the very restrictive folder permissions of the apache2 log dir. They where "drwxr-x--- root adm" but I changed them to "rwxr-xr-x root adm" so a unprivileged user may opdate webalizer[1] at night. That got me thinking (which I generally don't like...), does anyone know why the permissions are so strict, and is there a risk in the change I've made beside that everybody now may read the logs? The answer seems to elude me. Thanks, tit [1] Some sort of weblog presentaion program, http://www.webalizer.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602211735.65224...@asrock.local.aptget.dk
Re: Random display freezes [was: Less responsive input...blind-typing]
Hi, Thanks for the reply. * Osamu Aoki [120602 09:53]: > Where is your /tmp mounted. Under the main filesystem. Are you thinking of suggesting I mount /tmp as a ramdisk? > Please post "mount" output. ~ % mount rootfs on / type rootfs (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=1498260k,nr_inodes=217054,mode=755) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,gid=5,mode=620,ptmxmode=000) tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,noexec,relatime,size=300952k,mode=755) /dev/disk/by-uuid/---- on / type ext3 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,commit=5,barrier=1,data=ordered) proc on /proc type proc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,size=601900k) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw,relatime) debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw,relatime) binfmt_misc on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime) > > * John Magolske [120525 17:13]: > > > For a while now I've been experiencing a strange behavior where there > > > are frequent and regular "freezes" when typing or issuing commands > > > > Ok, so I opened up htop to look up & kill off non-essential daemons, > > adjusted vm.dirty_ratio and vm.dirty_background_ratio [1], tried > > changing and tuning the IO scheduler [2] (switched from cfq to > > deadline) ... all to no avail, still these infernal 3-second freezes. > > This makes things too complicated to resolve. Keep as much in default > otherwise others will not know how things are on your end. Admittedly, this was grasping at straws...all these changes were temporary & did not persist across a re-boot (I rebooted & checked). Regards, John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602194511.ga5...@s70206.gridserver.com
Re: [OT] Re: Computer case
* Ralf Mardorf [120602 17:33]: > ... Most of my music gear is 19" too. I placed the gear > on shelfs, but I tend to switch to a 19" cabinet, to get rid of the wide > and lengthy shelfs. A tower could be > 26" high, if I would get rid of > the shelfs. The only issue, a 19" or a new tower computer case + a 19" > cabinet is > above my financial scope. You can build your own wooden 19-inch rack in three or four hours. Use hardwood if it is available at low cost; otherwise use plywood or pine. Not including the front and back (if any), you need six pieces of wood (three pairs of pieces). Assuming 3/4-inch actual thickness (1-inch nominal): => top and bottom: about 19-1/8 inch wide, and whatever depth you need for the rack-mount gear => inner side panels (into which the rack screws are inserted): an inch or two less than the depth of the top and bottom, so that knobs and switches are recessed and thus protected from damage) and as tall as you need for your collection of rack-mount gear (1-3/4 inch per single-height panel); you can allow for future expansion by installing several blank panels => outer side panels: the same depth as the top and bottom, and a at least 1-1/2 inches taller than the inner side panels; make them taller if you wish to keep items such as pencils and pens from rolling off the top of the rack Note that the top and bottom panels rest against the inner side panels. The primary function of the outer side panels is to provide rigidity to the structure. Now here is the secret for an inexpensive homebuilt rack: thread the rack screws directly into the inner side panels. If at all possible, find someone with a drill press (so that the axis of the holes are square with the panel), and make yourself a jig to ensure that hole spacing is correct. Take a scrap of wood and experiment: choose a drill bit which allows you to install a standard rack screw (10-32 -- that is, No. 10 screws, 32 threads per inch) as if it were self-tapping. A bit which is about a millimeter smaller than the outsider diameter of the 10-32 screw should be about right. The first time you install a screw in a hole, the fit should be rather tight, so that the threads which are being formed in the wood do not strip. (The screw is going to get rather warm from the friction.) But once you have installed a screw fully into a hole and then remove it, it should screw back in without much difficulty. If you make a large rack and thus use soft wood for the inner side panels, you can make a better rack if you reduce the depth of the inner side panels by, say, two inches, and replace the missing depth with a pair of 1-inch by 2-inch hardwood strips. Hardwood provides a secure grip for the screws, and it is easier to drill holes accurately into strips than into large side panels. If you do not care about appearance, you can mount rack gear using wood screws, sheetrock (or drywall) screws, outdoor deck screws, or even sheet metal screws. But it does not take long to follow the procedure above so that you can use standard 10-32 rack screws, in which case the appearance of the rack is going to be really nice, particularly if you sand the box and then varnish or paint the rack. But even bare wood is not unattractive. Assemble all six pieces of wood (or eight pieces, if you use drilled hardwood strips) using 1-1/4 inch wood screws or deck screws and carpenter's glue. In the end, it is easier if you: (1) drill and countersink all the holes and fit everything together loosely with wood screws but without glue; a combination drill-and-countersink bit is useful (2) mark the pieces (so you can get them back together in the same arrangement, with all holes matching precisely) (3) take apart the pieces (4) apply glue (5) reassemble the rack tightly with wood screws (6) allow the glue to dry overnight before you load gear into the rack With this technique, you are going to have an almost-indestructible rack which is acoustically dead. Needless to say, the rack is going to be heavy. And with the dual-side-panel design, the inner side panels (and not just wood screws) support the top. This allows you to pile gear weighing a hundred pounds or more on top of the rack -- in addition to the gear which is mounted in the rack. RLH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602193132.GA3259@cromwell.tmiaf
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:34:55 -0500, green wrote: > Brian, you seem to be assuming that the router has a public IP (on the WAN > side), which is often not true. Unfortunately, many ISPs provide their > customers with only private/local IPs behind NAT; inbound connections are > therefore not possible unless the ISP agrees to forward a particular port or > port range. Implicit in my reply was that assumption. It is what I am accustomed to, even though my own ISP offers the facility you describe. Thank you for pointing out how different ISPs allocate addresses. I will try to remember that a router may not have a routeable IP address. Given a choice of ISPs, I'd not choose one who imposes what you describe. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602192822.GM2847@desktop
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Brian wrote: On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:14:12 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running a GUI, it's usually a check box). I was going to let it go but the more I look at what you say the more I wonder what you are talking about. Debian is a modern OS but, whenever I have put it on a computer, it has never come with a web server or ftp server. I guess it depends on which packages you tell the installer to load. One of the options is "web server," but I haven't set up a desktop installation lately (all my Debian is server-side), so I'm not really sure if a web server is part of the standard desktop configuration, but it's certainly one of the options. ftp to an anonymous account is probably the easiest to set up Could be, depending on what you want to set up. The deciding factor, however, is how easy it is for the person who wants to download a file. if your target is running unix, I'd suggest simply ssh + scp -- again they're already there and it's a simple command to transfer something Target? You mean the machine which is downloading? Even if they were on Debian, the use of ssh is over the top. The original poster said the want to "send" a file to someone, as opposed to "make available for download." Now if I'm sending a file from one linux machine to another, scp is a pretty straightforward way to do it from the command line, and scp runs over ssh. Not sure why you consider ssh to be "over the top" - anybody in their right mind turns off telnet and ftp as the first step in securing a new installation - in favor of ssh and sftp. 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) seems like a bad idea - if you were sending me something, I sure wouldn't want to expose my machine to the world, just so you can send me a file I do not understand that. He is making something available. You download it. How is that exposing your machine to the world? You do it all the time. He doesn't require a username or password - that's his problem, not yours. Nope.. the OP said "send file." But either way: - if I'm the recipient, I don't want to open my machine to the world - if I'm the sender, and I want to let someone download from my machine, again, I don't want to open my machine to the world (or expose the file I'm sharing to everybody) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fca6913.3030...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Andrei POPESCU wrote at 2012-06-02 13:34 -0500: > On Sb, 02 iun 12, 16:02:05, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > No. I was not referring to a static but to a public IP address. If > > the user has a public, i. e. internet-routable IP address, everything > > is fine, even if it is not static. However, if the user sits behind a > > NAT or something similar that blocks incoming connections, a third > > party certainly is required (such as a file transfer proxy for XMPP). > > Port forwarding? ...a possible but less viable option when NAT happens at the ISP routers. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Brian wrote at 2012-06-02 08:13 -0500: > On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If > > that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to > > establish the connection. > > A third party is not required. For the occasional transfer of files the > address (if it changes) may be obtained from the router and emailed to > the friend. Brian, you seem to be assuming that the router has a public IP (on the WAN side), which is often not true. Unfortunately, many ISPs provide their customers with only private/local IPs behind NAT; inbound connections are therefore not possible unless the ISP agrees to forward a particular port or port range. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:14:12 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Aubrey Raech wrote: >> >> 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) > > Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp > pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them > (if your target is running a GUI, it's usually a check box). I was going to let it go but the more I look at what you say the more I wonder what you are talking about. Debian is a modern OS but, whenever I have put it on a computer, it has never come with a web server or ftp server. > ftp to an anonymous account is probably the easiest to set up Could be, depending on what you want to set up. The deciding factor, however, is how easy it is for the person who wants to download a file. > if your target is running unix, I'd suggest simply ssh + scp -- again > they're already there and it's a simple command to transfer something Target? You mean the machine which is downloading? Even if they were on Debian, the use of ssh is over the top. >> 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) > > seems like a bad idea - if you were sending me something, I sure > wouldn't want to expose my machine to the world, just so you can send me > a file I do not understand that. He is making something available. You download it. How is that exposing your machine to the world? You do it all the time. He doesn't require a username or password - that's his problem, not yours. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602183619.GL2847@desktop
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sb, 02 iun 12, 16:02:05, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > No. I was not referring to a static but to a public IP address. If > the user has a public, i. e. internet-routable IP address, everything > is fine, even if it is not static. However, if the user sits behind a > NAT or something similar that blocks incoming connections, a third > party certainly is required (such as a file transfer proxy for XMPP). Port forwarding? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:58:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> Rodolfo Medina writes: >> >>> Camaleón writes: > > (...) > But why didn't the problem occur before in the past? It has become > heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same. I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to break. >> >> Is it possible that ram has decreased? Now I noticed that the problem >> also occurs running `scanimage'. I don't remember it ever occurred in >> the past! > > RAM is always a scarce resource but it cannot physically dissapear ;-) > > Anyway, reconsider your current running desktop and aplications; with > less than 512 MB of RAM your system will suffer from constant hicups now > and then if you try to use GNOME or KDE and the so called "big > browsers" (Firefox/Opera/Chrome...). > > Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM), > Firefox takes "99 MiB" of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure. Wow, that isn't much! I have 8GB as well, my SeaMonkey is currently using over 1,700 MB (resident)... that is with about 95 tabs open (normal for me). When I had 4GB RAM, it would take a lot less than that for that many tabs, though (more like 1,200 MB, I believe). In any case, the point is all modern browsers want a lot of memory. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoWM=9WqmfjyUmy2Fub=g7kexe0kpkrkspxfmxach19crw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: can't copy/paste between gpm and emacs on virtual console/consoles
On 2012-06-02 19:38 +0200, Dan B. wrote: > In Squeeze, in virtual consoles, I can't copy and paste between gpm > and emacs (emacs-nox) as I could in Sarge. > > Trying to select and paste with the mouse in virtual consoles seems to > show that emacs now recognizes virtual console mouse events and hooks > them into its usual copy/paste mechanism. This feature is new in Emacs 23. > Where is emacs' configuration of its handling of virtual console mouse > events? What do I set/unset to disable it? Customize gpm-mouse-mode. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4txiore@turtle.gmx.de
can't copy/paste between gpm and emacs on virtual console/consoles
In Squeeze, in virtual consoles, I can't copy and paste between gpm and emacs (emacs-nox) as I could in Sarge. Trying to select and paste with the mouse in virtual consoles seems to show that emacs now recognizes virtual console mouse events and hooks them into its usual copy/paste mechanism. (Selecting text (by left-buttom-dragging) in a VC not displaying emacs (via gpm) and then middle-clicking to try to paste into emacs in a VC pastes text previously selected in emacs instead of the text just selected via GPM). Similarly, drag-selecting text in emacs in a VC and then middle-click pasting into a VC not displaying emacs pastes text previously selected via gpm insert of the text just selected via emacs. In the "good old days," middle-click pasting to emacs in a virtual console would paste the text most recently selected by dragging in any virtual console.) How can I restore the old behavior (so that I can, say, select text in emacs and then paste that text into a shell (on another VC, or in the same VC after backgrounding emacs))? Where is emacs' configuration of its handling of virtual console mouse events? What do I set/unset to disable it? Thanks. Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fca4f9a.5090...@kempt.net
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:16:19 +0100, Chris Davies wrote: > Yes. A "proper" server (http, ftp, ssh) would satisfy this requirement > but you've excluded those with #1, #2. If your PCs can have Internet > facing ports configured, I'd go for ssh/rsync every time. I have a similar, if not exactly the same, requirement as the OP. My daughter has a desire for a bit of entertainment every so often. She types http://my_IP:8000 in her browser (https is also available), gets a directory listing, inputs a username and password and downloads the file she wants. A quick process, using a familiar, no fuss routine. The URL is also bookmarked. There appears to be no advantage in using sshd in this situation. The idea of having to guide her through configuring a router and using ssh (on a Windows machine, incidentally) doesn't bear thinking about for one thing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602171203.GJ2847@desktop
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Saturday 02 June 2012 15:39:43 Aft nix wrote: > > Spam filters aren't prescient; They can't predict new spam types. > > Filtering is always playing catch-up. It will take time (IDK how much) > > for the filters to be taught how to recognise this model. > > May be i should report the spam instead of spamming the list :) Yes - interestingly (to me) I didn't get the original spam; but I did get your reply, which I immediately marked as spam. :-/ Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206021746.50331.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.
On Saturday 02 June 2012 07:59:40 rjc wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:23:42PM BST, Lisi wrote: > > I get the following* if I type about:plugins into my Konqueror location > > bar. I want to get rid of Shockwqave Flash 7, but I simply cannot find a > > file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it. > > > > Has anyone any ideas? > > This should work: Thanks! > locate libklashpart.so Tried that :-( > apt-file is useful tool to search for package names containing > specific string in full path, even when the package is not installed: > > apt-file search libklashpart.so lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search libklashpart.so lisi@Junior:~$ apt-file search libklashpart.so bash: apt-file: command not found lisi@Junior:~$ su Password: Junior:/home/lisi# aptitude search libklashpart.so Junior:/home/lisi# apt-file search libklashpart.so bash: apt-file: command not found Junior:/home/lisi# Thanks, rjc. I think that the answer is to get a move on building my main machine so that I can install Squeeze. And put up with the situation on Lenny. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206021732.15116.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Miles Fidelman wrote: Aubrey Raech wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use for direct transfer, hopefully with these qualifications: If you're going to be sending to a friend, the real issue is getting your friend to install something and use it, which makes it a question of: - what, if anything, are your targets willing and able to install - how complicated things get to use - whether someone has to be at the other end to "receive" the file, or whether it's automatic In this regard, I think all three of your requirements get in your way of doing something easy and practical. 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running a GUI, it's usually a check box). ftp to an anonymous account is probably the easiest to set up if your target is running unix, I'd suggest simply ssh + scp -- again they're already there and it's a simple command to transfer something 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) seems like a bad idea - if you were sending me something, I sure wouldn't want to expose my machine to the world, just so you can send me a file 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) well, dropping a file into a chat session is a really easy way to move files Now... what I do in this case is mozy over to filmail.com - one of several services that provide a simple (and free) file mailing service: - go to the web page - enter sender/recipient email addresses - enter file path (or browse to file path) - "send" The system uploads your file, and sends an email that includes a link. The recipient gets the email, clicks the link to download the file. All quick, easy, no software install. If you don't want to rely on a third party, there are packages that you can install on your machine to do similar things - essentially sending a one-time link my email, that allows the recipient to download the file from your machine. Neat. Thanks. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jqddtk$1ug$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Aubrey Raech wrote: > Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to > a friend directly [...] > 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) > 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) > 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) > - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably be the best bet > for this... But in #3 above you've just excluded XMPP. Do you want it or not? > is there no program you can run with something like a - --listen to > listen for a connection on one end, and then run the program with the > destination IP from the other? Something along those lines? Yes. A "proper" server (http, ftp, ssh) would satisfy this requirement but you've excluded those with #1, #2. If your PCs can have Internet facing ports configured, I'd go for ssh/rsync every time. 1. One (or both) of you configure your router/firewall to accept inbound TCP connections from (say) port 10022 and route them to your Linux-based PC on port 22. If you can't redirect port 10022 to port 22 then just forward port 10022 and create a firewall rule on your Linux-based PC to rewrite inbound requests on 10022 to local port 22. (Come back here if you need help with that.) 2. Consider the use of DDNS services such as those provided by dyndns.org to make your IP address available by name to your friend. 3. Install the openssh-server package 4. Configure /etc/ssh/sshd_config, adding an AllowGroups line such as this: AllowGroups sshuser 5. Put your and your friend's user accounts into the sshuser group: groupadd sshuser usermod -a -G sshuser YOURUSERNAME usermod -a -G sshuser YOURFRIENDSUSERNAME 6. Make sure that your password, and your friend's password on your machine, is sufficiently complex that others are unlikely to guess it. 7. Use rsync (over ssh) or sftp to copy the files. Remember to tell them to use port 10022 (or whatever you decided in #1) instead of the default port 22. Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jqjp99xv0e@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On 02.06.2012 09:21, Aubrey Raech wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:08:44 +0200 > Tom Rausner wrote: > >> Dropbox ? > > Ah, and avoiding third-party servers was also a hopeful :-/ I'd prefer > not to have my files "out there" on the web... more of a direct > person-to-person transfer. > > I've also considered making a .torrent file for whatever it is I want > to transfer and using a public tracker for it, but that seems far more > roundabout than necessary. A torrent of one. > > --Aubrey GPG encrypted file(s) + torrent with public tracker? I have used that method sometimes. -- [Mika Suomalainen](https://mkaysi.github.com/) || [gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728](http://mkaysi.github.com/PGP/key.txt) || [Why do I sign my emails?](http://mkaysi.github.com/PGP/WhyDoISignEmails.html) || [Please don't send HTML.](http://mkaysi.github.com/articles/complaining/HTML.html) || [Please don't toppost](http://mkaysi.github.com/articles/complaining/topposting.html) || [This signature](https://gist.github.com/2643070) || signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:57:28 +0600 > Aft nix wrote: > > Hello Aft, > >> I'm taking full responsibility of my actions. > > In which case, I misread the tone of your post. > Thanks for the understanding. >> i'm talking about the subsequent spams, probably generated from same >> source. I'm just checking that same kind of spam(with similar message >> body) is posted multiple times. So spam filter of the list should >> detect it. > > Spam filters aren't prescient; They can't predict new spam types. > Filtering is always playing catch-up. It will take time (IDK how much) > for the filters to be taught how to recognise this model. > May be i should report the spam instead of spamming the list :) > Finally, there's no need to CC me, I'm subbed to the list. > Sorry, i suddenly realize that's gmail's default. Default works for me usually. it replies to the list. But in this case it's replying to you by cc'ing the list. weird :( > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)rad never immediately apparent" > But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count > Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers -- -aft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caguarcudwxg_ity+njnk+-mxghfbsacoykn7tvg-antw6gh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 19:57:28 +0600 Aft nix wrote: Hello Aft, > I'm taking full responsibility of my actions. In which case, I misread the tone of your post. > i'm talking about the subsequent spams, probably generated from same > source. I'm just checking that same kind of spam(with similar message > body) is posted multiple times. So spam filter of the list should > detect it. Spam filters aren't prescient; They can't predict new spam types. Filtering is always playing catch-up. It will take time (IDK how much) for the filters to be taught how to recognise this model. Finally, there's no need to CC me, I'm subbed to the list. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Hello Brian, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > > Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If > > that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to > > establish the connection. > > A third party is not required. For the occasional transfer of files the > address (if it changes) may be obtained from the router and emailed to > the friend. No. I was not referring to a static but to a public IP address. If the user has a public, i. e. internet-routable IP address, everything is fine, even if it is not static. However, if the user sits behind a NAT or something similar that blocks incoming connections, a third party certainly is required (such as a file transfer proxy for XMPP). Lacking more information from the OP, speculation is all I can do, though. Best regards, Claudius -- One is often kept in the right road by a rut. -- Gustave Droz http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:23:02 +0600 > Aft nix wrote: > > Hello Aft, > >> So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? > > No there aren't. If the were no spam filtering there would be, > literally, hundreds of spam mails to the list every day. > >> I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my > > If you take your eye off the ball, that's your fault, and your fault > alone. Take responsibility for your own (stupid) actions, and don't try > and blame others. > Hi, I'm taking full responsibility of my actions. i'm talking about the subsequent spams, probably generated from same source. I'm just checking that same kind of spam(with similar message body) is posted multiple times. So spam filter of the list should detect it. No one's blaming anything. just checking. cheers > -- > Regards _ > / ) "The blindingly obvious is > / _)rad never immediately apparent" > Is she really going out with him? > New Rose - The Damned -- -aft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGuaRCvKZbegO_=dLYRmdFjudqyFd6O8s=J=qrh0bav-mz6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
And, not to put too fine a point on it (and why I try not to respond), but a handful of spams will also generate tens or hundreds of mails from members of the list arguing the existence or the efficiency of the spam filters on the list. Just an observation, --b On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Brian wrote: > On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 18:23:02 +0600, Aft nix wrote: > >> So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? > > We would all notice if spam filtering on the list was non-existent. > >> I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my >> mailbox. > > How does one "accidentally" reply to a mail? > >> I know its me who acted stupid, but still, a spam filter would have been >> nice. > > It happens. The best thing is to ignore and delete mails which look > provocative, completely off-topic or silly. Like this one, for example. :) > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602132400.GI2847@desktop > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakmzw+yedbe5kj4rdn373h4mh6kduazvx4m9gk56z4prgas...@mail.gmail.com
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On 6/2/2012 8:39 AM, John Hasler wrote: > -aft writes: >> So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? > > Yes. At least 99% of the mail that hits the servers is rejected as > spam. "At least 99%" ?!?! Umm, my math sux but... -- Keep well, Chris <>< -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fca187b.6000...@makeworld.com
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:23:02 +0600 Aft nix wrote: Hello Aft, > So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? No there aren't. If the were no spam filtering there would be, literally, hundreds of spam mails to the list every day. > I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my If you take your eye off the ball, that's your fault, and your fault alone. Take responsibility for your own (stupid) actions, and don't try and blame others. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Is she really going out with him? New Rose - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Random display freezes [was: Less responsive input...blind-typing]
Hi, Where is your /tmp mounted. Please post "mount" output. On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 09:11:42AM -0700, John Magolske wrote: > * John Magolske [120525 17:13]: > > For a while now I've been experiencing a strange behavior where there > > are frequent and regular "freezes" when typing or issuing commands > > in the shell. All of a sudden I'll find myself "blind-typing" for 3 > > seconds or so before a backlog of characters burst onto the screen. > > Ok, so I opened up htop to look up & kill off non-essential daemons, > adjusted vm.dirty_ratio and vm.dirty_background_ratio [1], tried > changing and tuning the IO scheduler [2] (switched from cfq to > deadline) ... all to no avail, still these infernal 3-second freezes. This makes things too complicated to resolve. Keep as much in default otherwise others will not know how things are on your end. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602133952.GB4571@localhost
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
-aft writes: > So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? Yes. At least 99% of the mail that hits the servers is rejected as spam. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ipf9ltor@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: what happened to spam filters of this list
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 18:23:02 +0600, Aft nix wrote: > So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? We would all notice if spam filtering on the list was non-existent. > I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my mailbox. How does one "accidentally" reply to a mail? > I know its me who acted stupid, but still, a spam filter would have been nice. It happens. The best thing is to ignore and delete mails which look provocative, completely off-topic or silly. Like this one, for example. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602132400.GI2847@desktop
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
Aubrey Raech wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Debian users! Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use for direct transfer, hopefully with these qualifications: If you're going to be sending to a friend, the real issue is getting your friend to install something and use it, which makes it a question of: - what, if anything, are your targets willing and able to install - how complicated things get to use - whether someone has to be at the other end to "receive" the file, or whether it's automatic In this regard, I think all three of your requirements get in your way of doing something easy and practical. 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) Pretty much all modern o/s's come with both a web server and ftp pre-installed. It's a matter of turning them on, and configuring them (if your target is running a GUI, it's usually a check box). ftp to an anonymous account is probably the easiest to set up if your target is running unix, I'd suggest simply ssh + scp -- again they're already there and it's a simple command to transfer something 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) seems like a bad idea - if you were sending me something, I sure wouldn't want to expose my machine to the world, just so you can send me a file 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) well, dropping a file into a chat session is a really easy way to move files Now... what I do in this case is mozy over to filmail.com - one of several services that provide a simple (and free) file mailing service: - go to the web page - enter sender/recipient email addresses - enter file path (or browse to file path) - "send" The system uploads your file, and sends an email that includes a link. The recipient gets the email, clicks the link to download the file. All quick, easy, no software install. If you don't want to rely on a third party, there are packages that you can install on your machine to do similar things - essentially sending a one-time link my email, that allows the recipient to download the file from your machine. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fca11a4.3000...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 12:41:22 +0200, Claudius Hubig wrote: > Aubrey Raech wrote: > > > > Any and all advice/recommendations are appreciated! > > Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If > that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to > establish the connection. A third party is not required. For the occasional transfer of files the address (if it changes) may be obtained from the router and emailed to the friend. > However, you might also want to have a look at ‘servefile’ [1] which > basically acts like nc from rjc’s mail, but uses the HTTP protocol. There are some nice aspects to this script. Being able to use a browser is one; having the download require a username and password and being able to serve the contents of a directory are others. The OP could do worse than install and use it. It looks like it would install on Squeeze and Wheezy. Thanks for drawing servefile to our attention. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602131300.GH2847@desktop
what happened to spam filters of this list
Hi all, So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there? I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my mailbox. I know its me who acted stupid, but still, a spam filter would have been nice. -- -aft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAGuaRCu3CJJQF23eeP=jokyg0za7wooe52jmw56ybfpt5kp...@mail.gmail.com
Nina just declared she's with the faggots?
Who else around here chooses the faggotry of the police and laws by surrendering to their threats? Is there another reason? Choose the evil team, die with them.
Re: The last time i got tortured...when the torture started ?
What law am i breaking, drug user ? On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Aft nix wrote: > What!!! > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sam wrote: > > Was when i went there and spoke to the criminals, and complained that no > > 'actual ' criminals were getting arrested in a pouplar way ? > > > > -- > -aft >
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello Aubrey, Aubrey Raech wrote: > 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) > 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync) > 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC) > > - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably be the best bet > for this... is there no program you can run with something like a > - --listen to listen for a connection on one end, and then run the > program with the destination IP from the other? Something along those > lines? > > Any and all advice/recommendations are appreciated! Do you have a have public IP address (either IPv4 or IPv6)? If that is not the case, you will need a third party in order to establish the connection. Could you explain why you don’t like http/ftp? They can also be used by ‘non-proper’ or very small servers. Personally, I keep around a small lighttpd installation for that use case. However, you might also want to have a look at ‘servefile’ [1] which basically acts like nc from rjc’s mail, but uses the HTTP protocol. Best regards, Claudius 1] Currently only available in unstable, but it appears to be easy to backport it to stable, as it mostly requires python 2.6. Apparently, IPv6 is not supported? - -- Remember, there's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. -- Frank Zappa http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJPye3SAAoJEMCBEuXXLNukjnoP+gPGzHryyCzE5il4gbjQx7dN YVkkSH2aAVP/YhK3gl0QtAJL/HQuCCUAGwSLhIHFRz2Ij5dkKTFH8Lhcfi+yVi7l XRrdP7i+vzpL/lVFuhSdMc7m9pZa4cErW2AciLM5PF4tk/h64x8RbU03mObnqZyt +2/Ju2gqbYl/vLrbcu0sOItOCmbHONNbKjgKqIpS0foRexbNsCBram6PRD4mCaPX 409iIi7ZDzPfzhUIKhiGc1nVqOGdfxdMvLz7JtGxo/Vk4+czxbdViW+FPTrpUA1y +7PnG1fZNrb+BA6airgYvGA4TMpDtY7n+e8dhD/RU0JuylxJhavD0Gh/l3Lk3I2G +jyazsN5YVvESfR+7dSc6iVZQTq/HJab81KcZl2plTtICgvvFjsD50/xO3VqdB0W q9H31hbbcu2siRR2OsqF5VBvV80HCvUEr741T5LkzjFYId0ccEJjZN0vGGqRMuD3 1rNqprs3h6I1tR/0IttydPYLTTHEeovhUO93h6NyUPo192ZdI9RJ+3pdyDW0/118 ArkaEelHk3cDfYEmnLWQctKx3gR4iMa1xm4UuaM1ZSDFw3N4C2Hl+8SsaYyoBRrM /GdEC+QvTAmIK9vcHB+qINdimntciwYfL5cUoPRYkuwD4/Pg7fcWmhhpiEhJ4lo5 6emtYTfGEXvYmiaanZsM =dUmV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Re (2): Computer case
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 04:04 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > The mounting holes are the same dimensions. But the server chassis must > be designed for dog ear mounting. Many/most today are designed for > slide rail use, meaning the dog ears alone aren't strong enough to > support the chassis. Most generic 4U and larger chassis can be dog ear > mounted just fine. 2U/3U units will tend to bend/sag where ears attach > to the chassis, and nobody should ever consider dog ear mounting a 1U > chassis. Around 4U is the wide of a tower. I guess the mobo and cards only fit to 4U high, even 3U might be to small. Perhaps a 19" case idea isn't good due to the cooling, OTOH just small sidewalls (equivalent to a tower's base and top) are surrounded by the cabinet/rack walls. Above and below the 19" computer case I could keep many units empty, which also might be needed regarding to shielding issues, when mounted to an audio cabinet/rack. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338630135.10510.85.camel@precise
Re: Spam complaints
Regarding to From: Aft nix To: Sam Cc: [snip] Subject: Re: The last time i got tortured...when the torture started ? Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 14:00:31 +0600 Please take a look at what Clive Standbridge wrote on Thu, 2012-05-17 at 09:51 +0100: > To anyone who is bothered by spam on the list and is unsure what to do, > please: > > DON'T reply to the spam. > > DON'T quote the spam. > > DO Read how to report the spam at > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads in particular, find the > offending message in the archive at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent and press the "Report as > spam" button. > > DO visit http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam for > more information. > > > -- > Cheers, > Clive -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338625251.10510.70.camel@precise
Re: Re (2): Computer case
On 6/2/2012 2:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 01:12 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> Keep the discussion grounded in reality folks. He's asking for >> information on workstation (desktop/side) PC cases. >> >> Anything in the cPCI/industrial realm will quadruple the price and noise >> level, and limit choice of mobos, expansion boards, CPU boards, etc. > > I agree, especially since I'll keep my mobo and cards. > >> Not to mention it's all racked gear. So he'll need a rack as well. > > A 19" rack is something I'll buy. As long as 19" computer cases will fit > to 19" music racks it would be ok. The mounting holes are the same dimensions. But the server chassis must be designed for dog ear mounting. Many/most today are designed for slide rail use, meaning the dog ears alone aren't strong enough to support the chassis. Most generic 4U and larger chassis can be dog ear mounted just fine. 2U/3U units will tend to bend/sag where ears attach to the chassis, and nobody should ever consider dog ear mounting a 1U chassis. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc9d715.8070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Computer case
If you're still looking for a case,these people supply some, see if any of them suit you. www.novatech.com -- keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602093734.93bb6aafb2ecc1eda62d8...@gmail.com
Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?
On Fri 01 Jun 2012 at 22:51:12 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote: > Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to > a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or > similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use > for direct transfer, hopefully with these qualifications: > > 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp) You don't give a reason but you are being unnecesarily restrictive by stipulating this condition. A small web server such as webfs takes all of five minutes to set up and gives you what you want with the advantage that your friend can use a browser to transfer the files. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602083526.GG2847@desktop
Re: The last time i got tortured...when the torture started ?
What!!! On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM, Sam wrote: > Was when i went there and spoke to the criminals, and complained that no > 'actual ' criminals were getting arrested in a pouplar way ? -- -aft -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caguarcuruz9j7nrvwqnebr1icvm9up9gqsrcbzbw1z9a97r...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Computer case
Again thanks to everybody, I guess I shouldn't reply to each and every reply. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338621291.10510.59.camel@precise
Re: Computer case
On 6/1/2012 6:21 PM, Weaver wrote: > In reference to vertically mounted boards, in any size case, I have yet to > open a case to find cards drooping and melting all over the place and I've > built a few systems. It's a safe bet then that you've never owned a high end nVidia/ATI board w/large/heavy factory cooling solution, and/or never used a high performance aftermarket GPU cooler in a mini/mid/tower case. I've had a few such boards and coolers over the years, and every PCB has warped under its own weight and/or that of a heavy aftermarket cooler. I have an Accelero S2 mounted to a short length GT240 and even its PCB has warped due to the mass of the S2. None of these boards has failed to function due to the warping, but it'd still be nice if they didn't warp. Using a case with horizontal mainboard prevents this. People with big vid cards/coolers who don't suffer this are those whose vertical cases have front supports for expansion boards. Such cases are rare, and especially those with supports for less than full length cards. Those with liquid cooling systems and tubing arranged in the right manner can get some anti-gravity support from the tubing. Then there are those who use zip ties or similar to support the front of their big vid card. None of these scenarios are the norm. > Disassociation with connections in this orientation hasn't occurred either. This is unclear. What connections? > I don't play 'catch' with my boxes. You don't? Hell I thought everyone did. Damn, why didn't you tell me this years ago? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fc9c2cd.9050...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Re (2): Computer case
On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 01:12 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Keep the discussion grounded in reality folks. He's asking for > information on workstation (desktop/side) PC cases. > > Anything in the cPCI/industrial realm will quadruple the price and noise > level, and limit choice of mobos, expansion boards, CPU boards, etc. I agree, especially since I'll keep my mobo and cards. > Not to mention it's all racked gear. So he'll need a rack as well. A 19" rack is something I'll buy. As long as 19" computer cases will fit to 19" music racks it would be ok. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338621989.10510.64.camel@precise
Re: Computer case
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:42 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > While any case can be used, there are some considerations: > - cooling >- larger fans are generally quieter >- do you want liquid cooling? >- extra fans in front for RAID array? No extra fans are needed. The PSU has got a large fan, the AMD CPU does use the fan that shipped with it and the graphics is passive. I'm using 2 HDDs only, no RAID. > - convenience > - exposed 3.5" bays are handy for card readers, extra USB ports, etc. Not needed, it's useless for me. > - exposed bays for hotswap drives This could be useful for me, but it's not needed. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338621036.10510.57.camel@precise
Re: Computer case
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 17:35 +, ACro wrote: > http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product.php > Anti-vibration mounting kits for HDDs are included. I experienced the HDDs and the DVD drive causing the sidewalls to vibrate and making noise. Unfortunately space becomes an issue, when I try to decouple the drives inside my elCheapo case. http://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-PC-Z60-Front-120mm/dp/B0058P0OSU http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ALian%20Li% 20PC-C32&page=1 Aesthetic design, unethical price ;). Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338620558.10510.51.camel@precise
Re: Computer case
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:28 -0400, shawn wilson wrote: > I always just go with the cheapest case That's what I needed to do and I suspect that the case is the weak point of most home PCs. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338619971.10510.45.camel@precise
Re: Computer case
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 09:59 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Acoustic damping materials A friend successfully used damping material for one of his cases. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1338619743.10510.42.camel@precise
Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 05:23:42PM BST, Lisi wrote: > I get the following* if I type about:plugins into my Konqueror location bar. > I want to get rid of Shockwqave Flash 7, but I simply cannot find a > file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it. > > Has anyone any ideas? This should work: locate libklashpart.so apt-file is useful tool to search for package names containing specific string in full path, even when the package is not installed: apt-file search libklashpart.so P.S. It looks like KDE-specific part of Gnash. Cheers, -- rjc http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120602065940.ga28...@linuxstuff.pl
