Re: Noniteractive Installation
On Jo, 09 aug 12, 17:35:10, r...@aarden.us wrote: > > What do I need to search for to find out how to do this? Is there > already a tool to do all of this? Keywords: preseed, fai Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Vi, 10 aug 12, 17:36:15, Camaleón wrote: > > Yes, and here we had a problem with communication: users were not aware > about this "issue" until they've read it from external sources (blogs, > magazines, etc...). I'm susbscribed to Debian News and Debian Announce > (and now added debian-devel and debian-devel-anounce) in a hope of trying > to track these changes/decisions very closely because I'm interested on > them but I wonder if this is just an impossible goal to achieve unless > normal users subscribe to all of the development mailing lists. As I see it, if one wants to follow Debian Development they should be subscribed to at least -devel-announce, any specific mailing list and possibly also -devel. If one only cares about major changes and/or stable releases than -announce, -news *and* reading the Release Notes is enough. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: BD-RE mount problem
Hi, > I did another test using system rescue cd. While it gives me the same error > when I run dvd+rw-format, I note that mkudffs complains about multiple > extents. I don't know why it gives a different message under system rescue > cd than under Debian/Wheezy but I thought it might be a clue as to what the > problem is. What do you get from a plain write attempt: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sr0 bs=2048 count=1 Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8757612425536751...@scdbackup.webframe.org
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
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Re: Internet conecction
On 10/08/12 10:45 PM, Vicente wrote: Good day, if someone can provide some help, many Thanks in advance. Turns out I have a computer with a wireless network card and a usb modem, running a Debian testing, is that I want configure the devices as follows: The USB Modem output to have internet and wifi card to connect to my local network, I've read on the internet but have not found a guide so help me turn to the list. My debian is 64 bits. Are you looking at turning your computer into an Internet gateway? If not, why not just use your local network for the Internet connection? Assuming the USB modem is for dial-up, use the ppp application to handle the connection. Wifi is widely covered. Basically, if your wireless card is supported, you can just use the network manager to configure it. If it's not, you may have to resort to the NDIS emulation application. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5025d88f.2000...@rogers.com
Re: could not grab your keyboard
On Saturday 11,August,2012 12:17 AM, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 21:53:02 +0800, lina wrote: > >> I met following problem: >> >> "Could not grab your keyboard. >> A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your session or you may just >> clicked a menu or some application decided to get focused. Try again" > > (...) > > Unless you provide additional information on the above message (when it > happens, what are you running...) I can only but recommend: Thanks, I will try to answer the questions. at that time I connected to another Window system via Terminal Server Client, I was outside, the wireless connection was not so strong. It was slow, so I left the laptop for 5 mins, around. Then I came back, actually no one around and it's outside, in some canteen at night. First it's no reaction from keyboard, my first worry was that the dampness. I mean inside there was air-conditioner, so the temperature of the laptop was quite low, when put outside, it's hot, so there will some water condensate on it. Might those water affected the laptop. Another worry was that, someone definitely hated me, drop some water on it when I was absent (because I used to sit at that place whenever I sat outside), it's quite a "mean" worry, anyway, that's how did I think at the first mins. With time going, still not work, the keyboard. then the screen popped up this message, I looked around, nobody, so there was no worry about "eavesdropping". So I just shutdown the laptop and came back inside. That's the whole story, but overall those info. seems helpless in this context. > > http://bit.ly/MHjIx8 > > Greetings, > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5025cc6b.1040...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
> Do you really think that XFCE is tested in the same way that GNOME (and > Dothe same goes for Razor-QT and KDE, for instance)? I mean, there are more > Dothe GNOME/KDE users out there than XFCE/LXDE/Razor-QT and more users means > well probed software. To make a DE as a default for a distribution > wewithout being tested intensively can give a bad impression to newcomers. There is as many (and more) Xfce users than any other desktop environment. This pool started on 2011-05-02 and stopped on February 2012: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=63626 Total votes : 299 GNOME 2 83 28% GNOME 3 18 6% KDE 41 14% Unity 0No votes XFCE 81 27% LXDE 62% Enlightenment31% Openbox27 9% Other 40 13% This one started on 2012-06-14: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=80733 Total votes : 113 Gnome 2 12 11% Gnome 3 15 13% KDE 22 19% XFCE 2926% LXDE0 No votes Fluxbox3 3% Openbox 1312% Mate 5 4% Cinnamon 3 3% Other1110%
Internet conecction
Good day, if someone can provide some help, many Thanks in advance. Turns out I have a computer with a wireless network card and a usb modem, running a Debian testing, is that I want configure the devices as follows: The USB Modem output to have internet and wifi card to connect to my local network, I've read on the internet but have not found a guide so help me turn to the list. My debian is 64 bits. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/blu0-smtp134161de69a1b635c836a6293...@phx.gbl
Re: Installing 3.2 kernel
Gary, 4.08.2012: > Brian wrote: > > > On Mon 30 Jul 2012 at 19:43:25 +0100, Gary wrote: > > > > > Sven Joachim wrote: > > > > > No, squeeze-backports has binary packages (linux-image-3.2*) that you > > > > can just install. > > > > > > > > > That didn't go well :( > > > > It might not be a bad idea to detail what didn't go well. How you went > > about getting the kernel and firmware-ralink packages, commands used, > > which kernel etc. > > > > > I installed the packages, and then the one that that process > > > complained was missing/out of date (our old friend the realtek > > > package). Restarted. After selecting one of the 3.2 kernel options, > > > the computer effectively froze, with lines all over the screen. So > > > badly I had to pull the plug :( > > > > Any progress here? > > As mentioned, I installed the binary packages. Essentially I added > http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports to the software > sources, setting Dist to squeeze-backports and Components to main & > non-free. Then I performed > apt-get -t squeeze-backports install linux-image-3.2 > and > apt-get -t squeeze-backports install firmware-realtek > > They seemed to go okay but the system doesn't start with the new > kernels - on startup it gets part way through before covering the > screen with horizontal lines and seems to hang. > > The kernel is 3.2.0-0.bpo.2-rt-amd64. ^^ Don't know if it matters but "rt" above is the realtime kernel. You might want to try with one of the other 3.2 kernels on backports to see if it helps. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810211214.ga9...@cs.utexas.edu
Update: Who's interested in project management & collaboration tools?
Thanks to all who've sent me comments! The new, and hopefully improved Kickstarter page and video are now up at: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1947703258/smart-notebooks-keeping-on-the-same-page-across-th Take a look! Comments welcome. So are donations, likes, tweets, diggs, +1s, re-distribution, blog posts, and any other visibility! And... if you happen to have a large, distributed project coming up - a conference, event, crowd sourcing effort, flash performance, disaster response exercise that just begs for a collaboration support tool - let's talk! Best, Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502578e2@meetinghouse.net
Re: disabling slowkeys in gdm3
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning > itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969 > > It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with > this, but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it > in gdm3. > > If I start up gconf-editor, I don't see any configuration options for > gdm3 nor simple-greeting. So far I've tried > > gconf-editor > sudo gconf-editor > sudo -u Debian-gdm gconf-editor > > (I should note that gdm actually runs as root on my system -- so I'm not > sure what the Debian-gdm user is actually for?) > > My question, of course, is "what am I missing"? What do I need to do to > make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor? A couple more things I've tried: purging and reinstalling gdm3, and turning it off and starting X as root from the command line. Still no luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1btxwafrxs@pfeifferfamily.net
disabling slowkeys in gdm3
I've also run into the problem with slowkeys automatically turning itself on when I hold the shift key too long, as described in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657969 It isn't clear to me why the display manager has anything to do with this, but apparently the solution is to use gconf-editor to disable it in gdm3. If I start up gconf-editor, I don't see any configuration options for gdm3 nor simple-greeting. So far I've tried gconf-editor sudo gconf-editor sudo -u Debian-gdm gconf-editor (I should note that gdm actually runs as root on my system -- so I'm not sure what the Debian-gdm user is actually for?) My question, of course, is "what am I missing"? What do I need to do to make gdm3 configuration visible in gconf-editor? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1behnev9ns@pfeifferfamily.net
Re: krunner crashes[SOLVED]
On 10.08.2012 21:57, Roman V.Leon. wrote: I wish you all a good time of day/night. Gents, after last upgrade I got a problem with krunner on my debian testing x64. After i'm logging into KDE session i'm getting an error that something was crashed. After some investigations of .xsession-errors, i've found that the reason of this this crashes is krunner. When i'm trying to launch it from console i see the the following message: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1200151 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x5 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1200151 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x5 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension: 155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 165 Extension: 155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 8 (RenderComposite) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 73 (X_GetImage) Resource id: 0x1200153 terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/krunner from kdeinit sock_file=/home/roman/.kde/socket-debian-ws/kdeinit4__0 unnamed app(3734): Communication problem with "krunner" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " KCrash: Application 'krunner' crashing... 21:42 pts/2 KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/home/roman/.kde/socket-debian-ws/kdeinit4__0 QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 10 and type 'Read', disabling... Except for this, i can't shutdown or restart my PC from KDE menu, i also see an error and i oblige to turn off my PC manually via shutdown -h command. Please help me to get rid of this annoying problem, if you know how :-) Thanks in advance. Friends, forget about it. It was resolved just by the 2 commands: $ dpkg -S /usr/bin/krunner kde-workspace-bin: /usr/bin/krunner $ sudo apt-get install kde-workspace-bin -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50255fc4.40...@meta.ua
Re: BD-RE mount problem
On 10/08/12 12:46 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 10/08/12 10:33 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 I get the same behavior when i put a DVD into a DVD-ROM drive. It allows me to dump my data into a black hole and reports no error to the userspace program. In /var/log/messages i find sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Add. Sense: Invalid command operation code sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] CDB: Write(10): 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 lost page write due to I/O error on sr1 Looks like an old kernel bug resp. unwanted way to silently shoot your own foot. It happens too with 8 subsequent write() calls with sleep(1) inbetween. No delayed error is returned. --- I dug out the reason why libburn (underneath xorriso) uses O_NDELAY when it opens the drive device file. A note to myself in libburn/sg-linux.c: O_NONBLOCK is prescribed by Switched to O_NDELAY for LKML statement 2007/4/11/141 by Alan Cox: "open() has side effects. The CD layer allows you to open with O_NDELAY if you want to avoid them." In Debian squeeze's /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h: * Additionally, as of Linux 2.1.x, all Linux application programs * should use the O_NONBLOCK option when opening a CD-ROM device * for subsequent ioctl commands. This allows for neat system errors * like "No medium found" or "Wrong medium type" upon attempting to * mount or play an empty slot, mount an audio disc, or play a data disc. This explains why open() does not fail with O_NDELAY (= O_NOBLOCK): For ioctl(SG_IO) one needs w-permission. So it must tolerate O_RDWR | O_NDELAY But why does not write(2) fail afterwards ? Have a nice day :) Thomas I did try this when booting from System Rescue CD (sub stick) as well. I get the same results. I'm hoping to get another system up and running next week that also has a BluRay writer. I'll give that a try too. Thanks. I did another test using system rescue cd. While it gives me the same error when I run dvd+rw-format, I note that mkudffs complains about multiple extents. I don't know why it gives a different message under system rescue cd than under Debian/Wheezy but I thought it might be a clue as to what the problem is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50255809.3020...@rogers.com
krunner crashes
I wish you all a good time of day/night. Gents, after last upgrade I got a problem with krunner on my debian testing x64. After i'm logging into KDE session i'm getting an error that something was crashed. After some investigations of .xsession-errors, i've found that the reason of this this crashes is krunner. When i'm trying to launch it from console i see the the following message: QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. QDBusConnection: session D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication. Application may misbehave. X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1200151 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x5 QPainter::begin: Cannot paint on a null pixmap X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension:155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1200151 X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) 2 Major opcode: 53 (X_CreatePixmap) Resource id: 0x0 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 14 (X_GetGeometry) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id: 0x5 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Extension:155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 4 (RenderCreatePicture) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: RenderBadPicture (invalid Picture parameter) 165 Extension:155 (RENDER) Minor opcode: 8 (RenderComposite) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 55 (X_CreateGC) Resource id: 0x1200153 X Error: BadDrawable (invalid Pixmap or Window parameter) 9 Major opcode: 73 (X_GetImage) Resource id: 0x1200153 terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::bad_alloc' what(): std::bad_alloc KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/bin/krunner from kdeinit sock_file=/home/roman/.kde/socket-debian-ws/kdeinit4__0 unnamed app(3734): Communication problem with "krunner" , it probably crashed. Error message was: "org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply" : " "Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)" " KCrash: Application 'krunner' crashing... 21:42 pts/2 KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit sock_file=/home/roman/.kde/socket-debian-ws/kdeinit4__0 QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 10 and type 'Read', disabling... Except for this, i can't shutdown or restart my PC from KDE menu, i also see an error and i oblige to turn off my PC manually via shutdown -h command. Please help me to get rid of this annoying problem, if you know how :-) Thanks in advance. -- Cheers, Roman V.Leon. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50254b9d.9070...@meta.ua
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 13:07 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > Yes, there it is : > > from : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy > > === > Packages & versions > > apt: 0.9.7 > kernel: Linux 3.2 > gcc: 4.7.1 > > Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.8, Xfce 4.8 > > libc: eglibc 2.13 > X Server: Xorg R7.7 > > == > > > > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:35:52 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > > > > > Does that mean that future releases of Debian will no longer support > > > GNOME 2 ? > > > > Yes, I think so... since Wheezy and until Squeeze is supported. > > > > GNOME2 has been (or will be soon) deprecated/dead end from upstream GNOME > > project (the same it was KDE3) so what can distributions do to handle > > this? GNOME2 (and most important, its related libraries) is not going to > > receive enhancements anymore so should distributions spend their scarce > > resources in packaging a DE (with OTOH, is a rather bigger and complex > > project) that is not being actively developed/evolved? > > > > Greetings, Oops, I didn't notice your question. Yep, when I used testing one day there was an upgrade from GNOME2 to GNOME3, without getting a warning and it pulled in pulseaudio, while I choose Debian, because there were no dependency to pulseaudio. Until to many things are unclear regarding to Debian, e.g. systemd yes or no, I prefer other distros at the moment. Btw. I guess systemd soon or later will become part of all distros, due to upstream dependencies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344621016.1236.25.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 18:22:48 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 10 Aug 2012 at 14:23:38 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:41:37 +0100, Brian wrote: >> >> > But the process of how the decisions are made and who makes them is >> > the same. >> >> Yes, but that does not change the fact a decision (being a big change >> or a small one) is wrong or badly put. > > So we have appropriate mailing lists and the BTS to express our views on > the quality of the decision for the choice of a default DE on CD#1. Yes, and here we had a problem with communication: users were not aware about this "issue" until they've read it from external sources (blogs, magazines, etc...). I'm susbscribed to Debian News and Debian Announce (and now added debian-devel and debian-devel-anounce) in a hope of trying to track these changes/decisions very closely because I'm interested on them but I wonder if this is just an impossible goal to achieve unless normal users subscribe to all of the development mailing lists. > Apart from the one reference I have given previously I have seen nothing > of any substance yet. Sadly, me neither :-( > There is this thread which could be added to: > >http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2012/08/msg00020.html Thanks, but still nothing clear (is a thread with only one reply which adds no additional info). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03gqf$qus$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Fri 10 Aug 2012 at 14:23:38 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:41:37 +0100, Brian wrote: > > > But the process of how the decisions are made and who makes them is the > > same. > > Yes, but that does not change the fact a decision (being a big change or > a small one) is wrong or badly put. So we have appropriate mailing lists and the BTS to express our views on the quality of the decision for the choice of a default DE on CD#1. Apart from the one reference I have given previously I have seen nothing of any substance yet. There is this thread which could be added to: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2012/08/msg00020.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810172248.GW6660@desktop
Re: Debian desktop news
Yes, there it is : from : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy === Packages & versions apt: 0.9.7 kernel: Linux 3.2 gcc: 4.7.1 Gnome 3.4, KDE 4.8, Xfce 4.8 libc: eglibc 2.13 X Server: Xorg R7.7 == On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:35:52 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > > > Does that mean that future releases of Debian will no longer support > > GNOME 2 ? > > Yes, I think so... since Wheezy and until Squeeze is supported. > > GNOME2 has been (or will be soon) deprecated/dead end from upstream GNOME > project (the same it was KDE3) so what can distributions do to handle > this? GNOME2 (and most important, its related libraries) is not going to > receive enhancements anymore so should distributions spend their scarce > resources in packaging a DE (with OTOH, is a rather bigger and complex > project) that is not being actively developed/evolved? > > Greetings, > > -- > Camaleón > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03dtd$qus$1...@dough.gmane.org > -- Guy Gold -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/calq72qe4ljdsj7ac80pdq5t7ht3eim0pwoxkcdubvqcxrx-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:35:52 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > Does that mean that future releases of Debian will no longer support > GNOME 2 ? Yes, I think so... since Wheezy and until Squeeze is supported. GNOME2 has been (or will be soon) deprecated/dead end from upstream GNOME project (the same it was KDE3) so what can distributions do to handle this? GNOME2 (and most important, its related libraries) is not going to receive enhancements anymore so should distributions spend their scarce resources in packaging a DE (with OTOH, is a rather bigger and complex project) that is not being actively developed/evolved? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03dtd$qus$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: BD-RE mount problem
On 10/08/12 10:33 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 I get the same behavior when i put a DVD into a DVD-ROM drive. It allows me to dump my data into a black hole and reports no error to the userspace program. In /var/log/messages i find sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Add. Sense: Invalid command operation code sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] CDB: Write(10): 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 lost page write due to I/O error on sr1 Looks like an old kernel bug resp. unwanted way to silently shoot your own foot. It happens too with 8 subsequent write() calls with sleep(1) inbetween. No delayed error is returned. --- I dug out the reason why libburn (underneath xorriso) uses O_NDELAY when it opens the drive device file. A note to myself in libburn/sg-linux.c: O_NONBLOCK is prescribed by Switched to O_NDELAY for LKML statement 2007/4/11/141 by Alan Cox: "open() has side effects. The CD layer allows you to open with O_NDELAY if you want to avoid them." In Debian squeeze's /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h: * Additionally, as of Linux 2.1.x, all Linux application programs * should use the O_NONBLOCK option when opening a CD-ROM device * for subsequent ioctl commands. This allows for neat system errors * like "No medium found" or "Wrong medium type" upon attempting to * mount or play an empty slot, mount an audio disc, or play a data disc. This explains why open() does not fail with O_NDELAY (= O_NOBLOCK): For ioctl(SG_IO) one needs w-permission. So it must tolerate O_RDWR | O_NDELAY But why does not write(2) fail afterwards ? Have a nice day :) Thomas I did try this when booting from System Rescue CD (sub stick) as well. I get the same results. I'm hoping to get another system up and running next week that also has a BluRay writer. I'll give that a try too. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50253af7.7080...@rogers.com
Re: which one is faster?
On 8/10/2012 11:08 AM, Doug wrote: > All of that is quite correct, but it neglects one parameter: if the > RF connection depends on directional antennas, which it will > for any reasonable distance--say 1/2 mile or more--then wind may > become a significant effect if it causes the antennas to jiggle, or > to point off-target sometimes. This isn't an issue of the technology, but of the knowledge/skill of the installer, the quality and rigidity of the mounting hardware, and the chosen mounting location. Mount the antennae to the top of 25ft tube steel poles of 4" diameter and they will move quite a bit in windy conditions, likely causing signal issues. Mount them to 25ft treated utility grade 10" diameter posts and you'll likely never have wind issues. Both cases assume the pole is properly sunk 6-10ft with 4-6" of concrete fill. If you mount to the side or top of a building structure wind will never be an issue. Assuming proper installation, modern wifi directional antenna designs are immune to wind. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50253a08.1070...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: install issue
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 09:27:56 -0400, Ryan Nematz wrote: (please, no html posts, thanks...) > I burn my own DVD Install discs Was the ISO downloaded from the official repositories? > and when Debian was in the middle of installing I got a > message...please insert Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official > i386 DVD Binary-1 20120512-13:45. Where do in find this .iso? That's the same DVD you are using to install Debian but your shouldn't get any prompt. What happens when you select "Accept/OK/Enter" when the message appears and go on with the installation process? P.S. Maybe related to bug #675413 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03cr7$qus$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: which one is faster?
On 08/10/2012 12:52 AM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:00 AM, lina wrote: On 9 Aug, 2012, at 23:05, Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 09:00:18PM +0800, lina wrote: I don't know the reliable of the connection between the two servers, I guess it's okay. But from my side, the wireless is not stable. I don't know how to let it stable. I mean, not login every 10~15 minutes. (btw, Is big wind affects the wireless signal, kinda of silly to ask, I prefer the fresh air outside, so move laptop outside) Wind won't affect the signal, but if you are outside you may be in a spot where the signal is weak. Can you see what the signal strength is? Wind won't affect the signal?! Thanks. Nope. The air itself absorbs some of the electromagnetic spectrum (which is why gamma ray and x ray telescopes are *all* in space). Movement of the air does not really affect it much though. Density changes in the air (from pressure or thermal differences) can affect EM radiation, which is one reason the big optical telescopes have computer controlled micro-adjustments or are in space (Hubble). However, that is visible light, which has a much shorter wavelength than radio. Being longer, radio is much less affected by density differences, and on the scale of wifi it is not worth thinking about. And wind is basically a non-effect even for light (unless it carries dust or snow or something, but that is a different matter). I will say that in a heavy Montana blizzard, satellite TV signal can fade. But that comes down to the amount of water (frozen) in the air, as water tends to be a pretty good absorber of EM radiation in general. Cheers, Kelly Clowers All of that is quite correct, but it neglects one parameter: if the RF connection depends on directional antennas, which it will for any reasonable distance--say 1/2 mile or more--then wind may become a significant effect if it causes the antennas to jiggle, or to point off-target sometimes. --doug, WA2SAY, retired RF engineer -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/502531fc.3080...@optonline.net
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 17:19:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:23 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Why not? If that's what people wants (let users decice!). There are >> other options, of course. > > By upstream GNOME3 force to install pulseaudio, when I upgraded once > upon a time, GNOME2 became GNOME3 and pulseaudio had broken my Debian. > Than I got rid of pulseaudio, but GNOME3 has broken the common audio > workflow, the workflow audio engineers are accustomed by using Apple, > Microsoft and Linux. > > GNOME3 isn't a successor of GNOME2, Xfce is much closer to GNOME2. That's irrelevant because we are not debating on personal tastes (everyone has their own preferences). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03a64$qus$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 16:24:54 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 14:13 +, Camaleón wrote: >> Do you really think that XFCE is tested in the same way that GNOME (and >> the same goes for Razor-QT and KDE, for instance)? I mean, there are >> more >> GNOME/KDE users out there than XFCE/LXDE/Razor-QT and more users means >> well probed software. To make a DE as a default for a distribution >> without being tested intensively can give a bad impression to >> newcomers. > > I suspect that most of the Linux Audio Community does use Xfce and LXDE > under extreme hardcore conditions. Both are tested very well. You can't know because Debian XFCE is very different from another distribution XFCE so unless all of the Linux Audio Community users are using wheezy you can't but guess. > Non of them is shit,as unstable DEs such as e17 are. Please, avoid insulting another desktops >:-/ > I'm using Xfce on several distros, for a while there where issues > regarding to GNOME apps, e.g. I experienced issues with Evolution > running on Xfce, but those are fixed. Again, we are not talking about every user preferences. Defaults shouldn't come from there but accomodate to what the majority wants. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03aeg$qus$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: cups printer problems with osx clients
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 10:42:20 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > On Fri,Aug 10 02:35:PM, Camaleón wrote: > >> Anyway, being a MacOS client, you should be able to use IPP and thus >> avoiding messing up with another client/server protocols that may >> require setting up the correct credentials for accessing the printing >> resources (e.g., samba). > > It is a good solution if a narrow list of options is needed from the > printer. In my environment , if I use the 'narrow' direct IP printing, > then, I'm not able to use the duplexer, and some other options that are > offered by the printer- if I'm using the Samba share to add the printer > I can use the full set of features (just like a Windows machine would) The options are provided by the driver in use, it's independent of the connection method. Check if the drivers for the printer instances are all the same and also check for their settings. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03a1a$qus$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Conexion de internet
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:52:28 -0500, Vicente wrote: > Buen dia, si alguien me puede brindar un poco de ayuda, muchas gracias > de antemano. (...) Yes, but please, forward this post to the Spanish mailing list or ask again in English :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k039jl$qus$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:23 +, Camaleón wrote: > Why not? If that's what people wants (let users decice!). There are > other options, of course. By upstream GNOME3 force to install pulseaudio, when I upgraded once upon a time, GNOME2 became GNOME3 and pulseaudio had broken my Debian. Than I got rid of pulseaudio, but GNOME3 has broken the common audio workflow, the workflow audio engineers are accustomed by using Apple, Microsoft and Linux. GNOME3 isn't a successor of GNOME2, Xfce is much closer to GNOME2. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344611978.1261.42.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 09:33 -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. > > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? (luckily , it > was not in squeeze, which came with GNOME2 , I'm unning Squeeze > with Gnome 2.3 , am I missing anything ? For some people GNOME is GNOME. For me GNOME3 isn't GNOME. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344611584.1261.38.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: package wxmacmolplt broken
On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:27:22 +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote: (please, don't cross-post without warning the users about it) > Package wxmacmolplt on wheezy is broken. It currently requires > libglew1.6, while libglew1.7 is currently installed. Mmm, I see no package in Debian repos with that name :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0380k$qus$5...@dough.gmane.org
[Closed] Debian desktop news
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 14:26 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Is this [1] true? I welcome this. > > Partly. See http://lists.debian.org/jvu3q0$kgo$1...@dough.gmane.org and > the ongoing thread. > > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. Thank you and I apologize again. I already noticed this thread. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344610745.1261.30.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: How to add self-compiled kernel module in debian installation
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 15:04:06 -0700, ML mail wrote: > Well I am also starting to develop some kind of love/hate relationship > with these RAID cards... And those cards from LSI are one of the most valued RAID cards in the market, at least when it comes to their hardware specs. But then it comes the problem for the installation, that's when you really value a manufacturer which provides an open source driver for your new toy :-) > Unfortunately, the link doesn't help much and I am still trying to > figure out where these RAID card modules are loaded from during the > installation... Sorry to hear that ;-( Modules are loaded from the kernel package which is included in the CD/ DVD; "initrd" is just the "initiator". But it would be nice to have an option in the installer that can allow the user to load additional kernel modules from a predefined location (a network share such as samba/ssh/ftp or from external device). > I thought adding a new RAID card module to the installation would be as > "easy" as adding a closed-source firmware network adapter module such as > bnx2... but it looks like this is not the case. A firmware is not a kernel module. Anyway, automated installations are fine when you have a 100% compatible set of hardware/chipset as you won't expect any problem but your RAID card seems too new for the stock kernel included in Squeeze, I'd expect some kind of manual intervention. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k0375p$qus$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri,Aug 10 09:55:AM, Dan Ritter wrote: > GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made > some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to > GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In particular, GNOME > 3 really wants 3D accelerated video. XFCE doesn't care much Yes, I have worked with XFCE . Does that mean that future releases of Debian will no longer support GNOME 2 ? -- Quick and simple Linux solutions Blog - http://www.at4me.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810143552.gb25...@glen.eglb.local
Re: cups printer problems with osx clients
On Fri,Aug 10 02:35:PM, Camaleón wrote: > Anyway, being a MacOS client, you should be able to use IPP and thus > avoiding messing up with another client/server protocols that may require > setting up the correct credentials for accessing the printing resources > (e.g., samba). It is a good solution if a narrow list of options is needed from the printer. In my environment , if I use the 'narrow' direct IP printing, then, I'm not able to use the duplexer, and some other options that are offered by the printer- if I'm using the Samba share to add the printer I can use the full set of features (just like a Windows machine would) -- Quick and simple Linux solutions Blog - http://www.at4me.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810144220.gc25...@glen.eglb.local
Re: cups printer problems with osx clients
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:57:48 -0300, David Roguin wrote: > I have a debian server which have an epson printer installed to it. The > printer works fine with windows and linux clients but when I try to > print with a mac it asks for a password and then the printer stops with > the error > "/opt/epson-inkjet-printer-201101w/cups/lib/filter/epson_inkjet_printer_filter > failed" > > Anyone with a similar layout who can help me? Thanks! How is the printer being shared? I mean, is it a local printer (USB/LPT...) or it has some network capabilities (socket/ipp...)? Anyway, being a MacOS client, you should be able to use IPP and thus avoiding messing up with another client/server protocols that may require setting up the correct credentials for accessing the printing resources (e.g., samba). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k03670$qus$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: BD-RE mount problem
Hi, i can reproduce the symptoms by a read-only situation of drive and media. (It should not happen with BD-RE in a BD writer, of course.) open_sr0.c with O_NDELAY yielded: > open: fd= 3 , errno= 0 > write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0 I get the same behavior when i put a DVD into a DVD-ROM drive. It allows me to dump my data into a black hole and reports no error to the userspace program. In /var/log/messages i find sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Sense Key : Illegal Request [current] sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] Add. Sense: Invalid command operation code sr 6:0:0:0: [sr1] CDB: Write(10): 2a 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 lost page write due to I/O error on sr1 Looks like an old kernel bug resp. unwanted way to silently shoot your own foot. It happens too with 8 subsequent write() calls with sleep(1) inbetween. No delayed error is returned. --- I dug out the reason why libburn (underneath xorriso) uses O_NDELAY when it opens the drive device file. A note to myself in libburn/sg-linux.c: O_NONBLOCK is prescribed by Switched to O_NDELAY for LKML statement 2007/4/11/141 by Alan Cox: "open() has side effects. The CD layer allows you to open with O_NDELAY if you want to avoid them." In Debian squeeze's /usr/include/linux/cdrom.h: * Additionally, as of Linux 2.1.x, all Linux application programs * should use the O_NONBLOCK option when opening a CD-ROM device * for subsequent ioctl commands. This allows for neat system errors * like "No medium found" or "Wrong medium type" upon attempting to * mount or play an empty slot, mount an audio disc, or play a data disc. This explains why open() does not fail with O_NDELAY (= O_NOBLOCK): For ioctl(SG_IO) one needs w-permission. So it must tolerate O_RDWR | O_NDELAY But why does not write(2) fail afterwards ? Have a nice day :) Thomas -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/14098612380822626...@scdbackup.webframe.org
Re: Debian desktop news
Guy writes: > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? Gnome was the default desktop for quite a while. It was assumed that Gnome3 would be the default for Wheezy but it turns out to be too large to fit on the first CD. Gnome3 will presumably be a choice in Tasksel. It would be possible, I suppose, to make Gnome the default desktop on the first DVD but I see no reason why the installer crew should make the extra effort. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877gt6zun8@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: How to add self-compiled kernel module in debian installation
On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 07:46 -0700, ML mail wrote: > Hi, > > > I have a new LSI MegaRAID card which is not recognized by the Debian 6.0 > squeeze installer so I thought I would modify the initrd.gz installation > image which gets loaded at PXE boot in order to include my self-compiled > latest version of that module (megaraid_sas.ko). I unpacked then the > initrd.gz using cpio and looked at its > /modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/scsi to notice that it's all empty. I > conclude here that the SCSI card drivers are not located in the initrd.gz > image. > > Do you know where and how I can get my version of megaraid_sas.ko module > driver loaded at installation time instead of the default one? > > Cheers, > ML Don't you think you need to compile it, for each different kernel version? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344608908.1261.20.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 14:13 +, Camaleón wrote: > Do you really think that XFCE is tested in the same way that GNOME > (and > the same goes for Razor-QT and KDE, for instance)? I mean, there are > more > GNOME/KDE users out there than XFCE/LXDE/Razor-QT and more users > means > well probed software. To make a DE as a default for a distribution > without being tested intensively can give a bad impression to > newcomers. I suspect that most of the Linux Audio Community does use Xfce and LXDE under extreme hardcore conditions. Both are tested very well. Non of them is shit,as unstable DEs such as e17 are. I'm using Xfce on several distros, for a while there where issues regarding to GNOME apps, e.g. I experienced issues with Evolution running on Xfce, but those are fixed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344608694.1261.19.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [LAU] OnDemand-performance was(OT: klang)
On Fri, 2012-08-10 at 00:22 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 10:34:03AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > every email address in the mail is shown as is, so at least respect > > the privacy of others and remove email addresses, or much better, > > If you post to a mailing list, there *is* no privacy. There are different levels of "privacy", at least mailman archives will hide the email addresses and some e.g. http://lists.jackaudio.org/listinfo.cgi/jack-devel-jackaudio.org only allows to read the archive, when you're subscribed. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344608303.1261.15.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 19:41:37 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Thu 09 Aug 2012 at 16:33:39 +, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 16:43:38 +0100, Brian wrote: >> >> > You've already provided a major reference for the discussion which >> > has taken place on debian-devel. It included controversy (altering >> > the status quo always does) but it really does come down to size. The >> > first CD is not big enough to hold GNOME but I assume it will be on >> > the first DVD. So maybe the decision was quickly made but it didn't >> > come from nowhere. >> >> Well, the idea came from one mind, that's for sure :-) > > Really for sure? :) Yes, but in the sense of "someone" (a human being, a person → "one" as a pronoun) not "a single person" (→ "one" as a numeral) as you seemed to interpret :-) >https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2012/05/msg00025.html (aside note: why "https://"; for public mailing list?) That post selects no specific DE, it simply enumerates a problem and gives some alternatives. Fair. >http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2012/07/msg00115.html And the same goes here. I understand there's a new problem to solve but I also understand it has to be discussed at some level as usual, right? yet still there >> are many questions floating in the air and not just because of the >> decision itself but (warning, rant starts here): >> >> 1/ The time of the change (when freeze is already in place) > > Freeze exception. To accomodate GNOME or KDE on CD#1 both DEs would have > had to be cut down. More work for maintainers and complaints from users. There are exceptions (single packages that can be updated) and exceptions (changes in the installer). Anyway, if the problem was detected back to the first days of May there was enough time to have reached a solution before the freeze took place (Wheezy was frozen in later June). >> 2/ The nature of the change (the installer is a key piece of any OS and >> it has to be well tested and yes, I run the installer from time to time >> in a VM to see if there's something missing or that fails) > > The installer hasn't left beta-1 yet. Plenty of time left. Oh, good. But then I wonder why people is reluctant to make another changes in the installer like the one exposed at bug #684128 because we are plenty of time, aren't we? >:-) >> 3/ No feedback (there can be another alternatives to XFCE) > > Ratpoison? Why not? If that's what people wants (let users decice!). There are other options, of course. >> > The way the artwork for Wheezy was chosen also had its critics. See >> > the June archive for debian-desktop. The work is done by people who >> > step forward and surveys are not necessarily going to make that >> > happen. >> >> Choosing the background, banner colours "et al" and defaulting a DE >> from the installer are not quite the same, I'd say >:-) > > But the process of how the decisions are made and who makes them is the > same. Yes, but that does not change the fact a decision (being a big change or a small one) is wrong or badly put. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/k035ha$qus$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 09:33:04AM -0400, Guy Gold wrote: > On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > > > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. > > When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? (luckily , it > was not in squeeze, which came with GNOME2 , I'm unning Squeeze > with Gnome 2.3 , am I missing anything ? GNOME 3 has never been the default desktop for Debian Stable. It was, for a while, the default for Wheezy, but has been replaced by XFCE because GNOME 3 will not fit on the first CD image. You will still be able to install GNOME 3 by either downloading more images or using the standard repositories. GNOME 3 is quite different from the GNOME 2 series, and has made some people correspondingly upset. XFCE is fairly similar to GNOME 2, and may suit those people better. In particular, GNOME 3 really wants 3D accelerated video. XFCE doesn't care much about that. -dsr- -- http://randomstring.org/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference. You can't fight for freedom by taking away rights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810135513.gz8...@randomstring.org
Re: could not grab your keyboard
On Friday 10,August,2012 09:53 PM, lina wrote: > Hi, > > I met following problem: > > "Could not grab your keyboard. > A malicious client may be eavesdropping on your > session or you may just clicked a menu or some > application decided to get focused. Try again" > > It has never happened before. It's my first time met above problem. When > I use wireless. > > Are there some potential danger? Before the keyboard just no reaction. > > now it has no problem. > > Thanks with best regards, http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=519007 I used the "Terminal server client" at that time. With the following package I updated today: binfmt-support comerr-dev consolekit desktop-base desktop-file-utils doc-base e2fslibs e2fsprogs fontconfig fonts-opensymbol gnome-icon-theme gnome-menus hicolor-icon-theme initramfs-tools install-info libck-connector0 libck-connector-dev libcomerr2 libglib2.0-0 libss2 man-db menu mime-support python-uno shared-mime-info ttf-opensymbol uno-libs3 ure But I don't know which one is the culprit? Thanks ahead, sorry I don't know which info. is the most relevant here, so just providing something I could think of so far. Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5025167d.7000...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Will upcoming Debian 8 release default to XFCE for the CD media?
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 18:35 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 08 Aug 2012 at 16:23:28 +, Camaleón wrote: > > > Subject says it all. > > How can this be [OT]? It's about Debian. It concerns Wheezy. And the > installer is involved, too. > > > I ask because I've read this from two different sources¹ now (the other > > magazine is written in Spanish), so is this true? > > > > I could only find this mailing list thread² as the official reference but > > from the comments on there it does not look like a final decision has > > been taken yet on the proposed change and this is a rather big diversion > > from the usual default to be passed so inadvertently to the users (yes, > > plain users do not read "debian-devel" ;-P). > > The decision could possibly be reversed if someone could find and > implement a way of getting the GNOME task on CD-1. Oops, I first worked off other mails, now I'm working up the Debian mails. Pardon, I opened a similar thread, since this was announced at LAU. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344607714.1261.13.camel@localhost.localdomain
could not grab your keyboard
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install issue
I burn my own DVD Install discs and when Debian was in the middle of installing I got a message...please insert Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.5 _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20120512-13:45. Where do in find this .iso?
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri,Aug 10 02:26:PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian > is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. When was GNOME3 the default desktop for Debain ? (luckily , it was not in squeeze, which came with GNOME2 , I'm unning Squeeze with Gnome 2.3 , am I missing anything ? -- Quick and simple Linux solutions Blog - http://www.at4me.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810133304.ga25...@glen.eglb.local
Re: Debian desktop news
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Is this [1] true? I welcome this. Partly. See http://lists.debian.org/jvu3q0$kgo$1...@dough.gmane.org and the ongoing thread. However, I don't know whether you can really say "Debian+GNONE3". Debian is nothing without the packages. Gnome 3 is part of Debian. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Debian desktop news
Is this [1] true? I welcome this. Regards, Ralf [1] Forwarded Message From: To: linux-audio-user Subject: [LAU] Debian desktop news Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2012 22:40:37 -1000 Debian is dropping GNOME3 as their default desktop environment, and going with XFCE. Why? Because they can't fit Debian+GNOME3 onto a single CD. http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NTk You may now return to your regularly-scheduled interruption. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1344604130.1276.86.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: [s...@hardwarefreak.com: Re: Help with KVM/libvirt/win2008r2. Guest loosing time.]
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:25:14AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On 8/6/2012 2:46 PM, Chris Davies wrote: > > Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> This would be much simpler if the Windows scheduler had more > >> granularity. You can only schedule per day or greater. AFAIK you can't > >> schedule events every X minutes as with cron. > > > > In the Advanced settings there's an option to repeat the job every N > > hours or minutes. > > Just one more reason to hate Windows. I haven't managed any for quite a > while. When I did, I did most of my adminning from the DOS prompt. The > "at" scheduler command that's been around since NT 3.1, and which was > equivalent to the GUI scheduler back then, up to W2K IIRC, has > apparently not been updated to keep pace with the new GUI options. > Either that or the command line help simply hasn't been updated. I just gave up on that installation and installed another copy. It doesn't have the time drift problem. The kvm configuration was the same. When I installed it again, I had to do it 4-5 times before the stupid thing would work. Doing the install the same way each time yielded totally different results. Typical microsoft product, do the same thing and get different results. Anyway, this installation was done with -smp 1. The one that I had problems with was installed with -smp 2. I have since changed the new install to -smp 2 and left the vm running over night w/o any network connectivity. The system was 2 seconds behind the host on boot and is still 2 seconds behind. So the problem is solved for me. I am not using any time hacks. The only option related to time/clock is -rtc base=localtime > So the option I described for the OP is viable. Setup ntpd in the host > and schedule a batch file containing "w32tm /resync /nowait" to run > every 5-10 minutes, given his W2008 guest is drifting an hour each hour > IIRC from his post. I could have done this. It took 4 seconds for a single second to pass. Anyway, I appreciate the help that was received. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120810114311.gg14...@electro-mechanical.com
Re: BD-RE mount problem
Hi,
> I'm wondering if the problem is the iso9660 file system that K3B put onto
> the disc?
I seriously doubt.
At least dd should have no scruples to overwrite any filesystem.
The block device driver has no idea of filesystems.
The only connection would be open(2) flag O_EXCL. mount uses it
to tell others that the drive is in use. To learn about it, the
other program would have to use O_EXCL, too, But open_sr0.c
does not do that and even if so, then it would cause error 16 EBUSY
rather than 30 EROFS.
The problem seems to be in the way how the kernel perceives the
drive or the medium.
> Perhaps when faced with read-only media, the kernel simply
> assumes that the device itself is read-only.
That would be an expensive one-way-road for re-usable media.
Drive and medium appear as one thing to the software which controls
the drive. The medium type is expressed by the SCSI "profile" number.
This is not exactly a medium type identifier but a promise that the
drive can perform certain actions on the loaded medium.
In a write-capable drive a BD-RE should cause profile 0x43.
In a read-only drive, a BD-RE might well appear as 0x40 BD-ROM.
But we know from dvd+rw-format and xorriso that the drive reports
profile 0x43 = BD-RE and that one can write data onto the medium.
So for some reason the kernel (actually the block device driver)
seems to get it wrong.
Well, maybe the refusal has other reasons.
One approach would be to debug the kernel: insert printk() and
compile and reboot. Multiple times.
It would be tricky to do this in a virtual machine, but not impossible.
See
http://libburnia-project.org/wiki/QemuXorriso
I recently did a similar try-and-error research on Debian squeeze
in order to find out why Linux would not mount the HFS+ aspect of
a xorriso hybrid image. (It turned out that the kernel has hardcoded
APM block size 512, whereas xorriso used 2048 by default.)
To my luck, i could use qemu for the development cycles.
This is not a task where i can help from remote.
One would have to find the occasions where error 30 (EROFS) is
emitted during the course of open(2).
Each of them would have to be equipped by printk() which puts text
into the system log (dmesg, /var/log/messages, ...).
Then you try from userspace to open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR); and look
in the log for messages from your printk().
Theories will emerge and fail. If you are lucky then you find out
enough to revert the system change that has hit you. (Obviously
something must have triggered the change in behavior.)
Or you can send a request for help to Linux Kernel Mailing List,
which is a rough territory if one is not well prepared. Especially
since Debian kernels are usually not the newest ones.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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package wxmacmolplt broken
Hi all: Package wxmacmolplt on wheezy is broken. It currently requires libglew1.6, while libglew1.7 is currently installed. thanks francesco pietra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmvkuqgnerdgukbavt0qvvow9ieasvvkeyzmzabtakt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: BD-RE mount problem
On 10/08/12 05:23 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
-fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR);
+fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR | O_NDELAY);
open: fd= 3 , errno= 0
write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0
This explains why xorriso or dvd+rw-format can open the drive
device file. (The failure to re-format is a different problem.)
No one in Debian user has been able to shed any light on the problem.
I am not a kernel hacker, but rather a self-proclaimed expert for
optical drives and ISO 9660.
My best guess is that the kernel believes the medium is read-only
(like BD-ROM) and thus refuses any attempt to use it for writing
via the normal POSIX system interface.
But i do not know how to inquire the kernel's view on the medium.
The drive sees a BD-RE and has no scruples to write data to it.
But the kernel seems to see a problem with writing.
Thanks Thomas.
I'm wondering if the problem is the iso9660 file system that K3B put
onto the disc? That would make the medium read-only so far as normal
file I/O is concerned. Perhaps when faced with read-only media, the
kernel simply assumes that the device itself is read-only.
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Re: BD-RE mount problem
Hi,
> > -fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR);
> > +fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR | O_NDELAY);
> open: fd= 3 , errno= 0
> write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0
This explains why xorriso or dvd+rw-format can open the drive
device file. (The failure to re-format is a different problem.)
> No one in Debian user has been able to shed any light on the problem.
I am not a kernel hacker, but rather a self-proclaimed expert for
optical drives and ISO 9660.
My best guess is that the kernel believes the medium is read-only
(like BD-ROM) and thus refuses any attempt to use it for writing
via the normal POSIX system interface.
But i do not know how to inquire the kernel's view on the medium.
The drive sees a BD-RE and has no scruples to write data to it.
But the kernel seems to see a problem with writing.
Have a nice day :)
Thomas
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Re: UEFI install
Have you tried with Wheezy ? On 10/08/12 11:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden: On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote: On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well. I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my post. I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure boot' feature of the UEFI bios? I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI bios, SSD& mSata. I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need a 3.2 backport kernel What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get either of: - GPT + UEFI - MBR + UEFI - GPT + BIOS to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is - MBR + BIOS My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install also seemed to use it. I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it would be nice to have it anyway. Thanks, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5024d295.2000...@rezozer.net
UEFI install (was: Re: Squeeze install in ultrabooks with SSD and HDD)
Am Donnerstag, 9. August 2012 schrieb Greg Madden: > On Thursday 09 August 2012 4:37:05 am L V Gandhi wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Gary Dale wrote: > > > On 08/08/12 08:48 PM, L V Gandhi wrote: > > >> Has any one installed dual boot system of windows and squeeze in > > >> ultrabooks with both mSATA SSD and HDD? > > >> Kindly give links or procedure to keep windows and linux. > > > > > > You don't have to do anything special. Just partition the disks the > > > way you like. Linux installers normally expect that dual booting > > > is a common requirement so they usually handle it pretty well. > > > > I think it is not so easy as I have googled it. Intel RST, UEFI etc > > making things difficult and many have bricked their system. Hence my > > post. > > I think the issues you read about are for Windows 8 and the 'secure > boot' feature of the UEFI bios? > > I have not tried Squeeze, Wheezy works fine on a Thinkpad with the UEFI > bios, SSD & mSata. I think Squeeze does not support UEFI properly. It would at least need a 3.2 backport kernel What did you do to make it work? I have tried two times to get either of: - GPT + UEFI - MBR + UEFI - GPT + BIOS to work on a ThinkPad T520 and the only think that works right now is - MBR + BIOS My problem was that the UEFI boot menu never offered to boot from the EFI boot partition that I made. I think I might have been missing some efibootmgr magic that was explained here or elsewhere before, but as you managed to get to work, I´d like to know the exact steps or a link to a guide that works, before trying again. Why the GPT + BIOS stuff did not work is beyond me – I hat a BIOS boot partition for GRUB and grub-install also seemed to use it. I bet its not really faster tough since the ThinkPad doesn´t take much time in the BIOS anyway. And due to LVM I do not really need GPT, but it would be nice to have it anyway. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208101117.16259.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: which one is faster?
Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2012 schrieb Darac Marjal: > On Wed, Aug 08, 2012 at 03:14:50PM +0800, lina wrote: > > Hi, > > > > It's a bit big data to transfer, around 1.1 T, > > > > from one server to another server. > > > > I checked that rsync is faster than scp, > > but in my situations rsync has elapsed for 1 hour, I guess the network > > is also a problem, > > > > Here I wish to know are there some tools (better default) can use for > > fast transferring, regardless the security reason, my data is just > > some data, no need special security care. > > > > In addition to the suggestions mentioned by other people, consider the > compressability of your data. I don't believe it's possible to rsync -z and possibly --compress-level might some in handy as well. It should be more efficient than using compression on SSH level. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208101105.26784.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: which one is faster?
Am Mittwoch, 8. August 2012 schrieb Johannes Wiedersich: > On 08/08/12 09:14, lina wrote: > > It's a bit big data to transfer, around 1.1 T, > > > > from one server to another server. > > > > I checked that rsync is faster than scp, > > but in my situations rsync has elapsed for 1 hour, I guess the network > > is also a problem, > > > > Here I wish to know are there some tools (better default) can use for > > fast transferring, regardless the security reason, my data is just > > some data, no need special security care. > > IIUC, the question is not just, which is the fastest tool. If you have > network problems (ie. intermittent connections) or fear thereof, you > need a fast *and* a reliable tool. Yes. It likely would also be a good idea to fix these network problems ;) > I suggest you stick with rsync. IMHO it is the best tool for your task. > > With the -c option, eg. you could check, whether all files transferred > correctly, without much demand on the network. I only use rsync for these kinds of stuff. Its just reliable. With BTRFS I will investigate btrfs send/receive, but in the first time I will – as recommended – make sure I run rsync -c after it. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208101103.19086.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: BD-RE mount problem
On 10/08/12 01:50 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote:
Hi,
fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR);
root@transponder:/home/garydale# ./open_sr0
open: fd= -1 , errno= 30
open: Read-only file system
This is surprising, because xorriso uses
open(..., O_RDWR | O_NDELAY);
when it acquires a drive.
(I would have expected to see the error with write(), which xorriso
does not use.)
Whay happens if you change the test program
-fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR);
+fd = open("/dev/sr0", O_RDWR | O_NDELAY);
compile it, and run again as superuser ?
Whatever, a BD-RE device with rw-permission on its device file should
not throw this error.
We need kernel expertise to find out what happens here.
Is anybody at debian-user able to give advise or propose experiments
which shed light on the problem ?
root@transponder:/home/garydale# ./open_sr0
open: fd= 3 , errno= 0
write: ret= 2048 , errno= 0
No one in Debian user has been able to shed any light on the problem.
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Re: debian 6.0.5 ISO installation issue. GRUB .. file not found
ok it is resolved, here is what i did. since the grub has mistakenly
installed on RAID drive (md0) and not on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb MBRs.
however i could not understand why is that happen. i am following the
same linux installation that i used to with old version it just happen
to me with 6.0.5. anyways this is what i did.
Grub rescue>ls (which showed me all the devices including RAID ones)
Grub rescue> ls (md/0)/ (and i found grub folder on root of md/0)
Grub rescue>set root=(md/0) ("/" was their so i add it)
Grub rescue>set prefix=(md/0)/grub
Grub rescue> insmod normal
Grub rescue> normal
when i reach the prompt after root password. i run grub-install /dev/sda
and
grub-install /dev/sdb so both devices could be used as failover.
i hope this helps others.
Thanks for the support Arno and Brian.
Thanks,
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> ok ill perform the the said instructions next day in office. but let
> me share you guys some of my partitions settings. that might help to
> understand the scenario more clearly.
>
> i have 2. 500GB of HD with raid1 set.fail-over to each other with boot
> support.
>
> 1. /boot (raid1)
> 2. Swap (raid1)
> 3. root on LVM on raid1.
>
> so i have 3 raid devices and on 3rd one root Partition is on top of LVM
>
> i am using the same procedure that i use to install with debian lenny
> and old squeeze but this is the first time that it showed me this
> error.
>
> i think about the same as you suggested about using debian live CD and
> install the grub manually. but there is no such command grub-install.
> i found a command grub-installer. so i didnt knew how to use it.
> please correct me if my limited knowledge leading me to a wrong
> direction.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:53 PM, Arno Schuring wrote:
>> Muhammad Yousuf Khan (sir...@gmail.com on 2012-08-09 16:55 +0500):
>>> i just installed debian from 6.0.5 amd64 net CD. with basic options.
>>>
>>> installation went fine but in first boot. shows me this
>>>
>>> Welcome to GRUB
>>> error : file not found
>>> grub rescue>
>>
>> If memory serves me right, you need to
>> rescue> set root=(hd0,1)
>>
>> Assuming that /boot is a separate partition, created as /dev/sda1.
>> Season to taste. The grub shell has tab-completion, not sure if the
>> rescue shell has the same. If the installer created one single
>> partition, you may also need
>> rescue> set prefix=($root)/boot/grub
>>
>> rescue> insmod normal
>> rescue> normal
>>
>> And from there the regular grub commands (linux, initrd) should work.
>> There may also be a command to start the menu from there (insmod
>> gfxmenu?).
>>
>> An easier but slower solution is to boot again from the installation
>> disc, start a rescue shell and re-run grub-install and update-grub.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Arno
>>
>>
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