Re: Presentació
A 2013-03-01 22:51, serotoninaeh escrigué: Hola! M'agradaria presentar-me a la llista i preguntar si hi ha algú que tingui ganes de buscar espais a Barcelona on juntar-nos i aprendre o ajudar a persones interessades en instal·lar debian etc... Crec que es interessant i fa temps que tinc curiositat per aprendre mes per arribar a administrador de sistema Linux i en aquest cas Debian i crec que aquest espais tenen que ser físic i amb personàs que tingui ganes de compartir unes hores. Salud Bon dia, Serotonina Un posible espai seria on fa poc vam fer la trobada sobre corregir bugs a Debian, a prop de la plaça del Diamant a Gràcia. Si es necessita l'espai molt de tant en tant es pot sol.licitar amb una mica de temps. Si en canvi volguèssim fer reunions setmanals, llavors caldria col.laborar amb l'espai per mantenir-lo: assistir a les assemblees mensuals, mirar si podem pagar quota de socis, muntar alguna activitat divendres a la tarda i portar la barra. També podriem ser itinerants, per a que no sempre ens haguem de desplaçar a Barcelona. Per exemple, cada dos mesos un de nosaltres pot trobar un espai a la seva localitat dissabte o diumenge i podem organitzar: tallers per nosaltres + dinar + install party anunciada per tothom El tret de sortida podria ser quan hi hagi nova estable, però ves a saber quan serà això En tot cas, si fem trobades jo puc donar tallers senzillets sobre la instal.lació de serveis: DHCP, DNS, Web, FTP, Correu, proxy-caché, ... Àlex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/70d1cb50aa89e59196ad9411e4514...@probeta.net
Re: Presentació
Es molt interessant la teva proposta!! Jo encantat! El local que comentaves aquí pertany? A part a Gracia conec variïs llocs que no posarien cap mena de pega i estarien encantats, entre ells son La Barraqueta, El Casal de Joves de Gracia, LaTorna , Llibreria Aldarull entre altres , apart com dèiem es pot anar fent a diferents llocs crec que es el interessant Per exemple a Sabadell al Casal Independentista Cancapablanca fa temps que volíem fer uns tallers, així que per llocs no falten, només reactivar un col·lectiu que promoguem Gnu-Linux i com no espai tipus Hackerspace on poder junta a diferent gent. Desde fa temps penso que la gent que estem promoguem el softlliure estem estancats en ghettos (amb tot el respecte) i que fa falta conscienciació i ajudar a que la comunitat creixi molt mes, tinc variïs projectes que en tot cas parlarem mes endavant. Però primer el primer. Busquem una data per xerrar? El 02/03/13 10:26, a...@probeta.net escribió: A 2013-03-01 22:51, serotoninaeh escrigué: Hola! M'agradaria presentar-me a la llista i preguntar si hi ha algú que tingui ganes de buscar espais a Barcelona on juntar-nos i aprendre o ajudar a persones interessades en instal·lar debian etc... Crec que es interessant i fa temps que tinc curiositat per aprendre mes per arribar a administrador de sistema Linux i en aquest cas Debian i crec que aquest espais tenen que ser físic i amb personàs que tingui ganes de compartir unes hores. Salud Bon dia, Serotonina Un posible espai seria on fa poc vam fer la trobada sobre corregir bugs a Debian, a prop de la plaça del Diamant a Gràcia. Si es necessita l'espai molt de tant en tant es pot sol.licitar amb una mica de temps. Si en canvi volguèssim fer reunions setmanals, llavors caldria col.laborar amb l'espai per mantenir-lo: assistir a les assemblees mensuals, mirar si podem pagar quota de socis, muntar alguna activitat divendres a la tarda i portar la barra. També podriem ser itinerants, per a que no sempre ens haguem de desplaçar a Barcelona. Per exemple, cada dos mesos un de nosaltres pot trobar un espai a la seva localitat dissabte o diumenge i podem organitzar: tallers per nosaltres + dinar + install party anunciada per tothom El tret de sortida podria ser quan hi hagi nova estable, però ves a saber quan serà això En tot cas, si fem trobades jo puc donar tallers senzillets sobre la instal.lació de serveis: DHCP, DNS, Web, FTP, Correu, proxy-caché, ... Àlex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131f821.7080...@riseup.net
Re: Presentació
A 2013-03-02 14:01, serotoninaeh escrigué: Es molt interessant la teva proposta!! Jo encantat! El local que comentaves aquí pertany? A part a Gracia conec variïs llocs que no posarien cap mena de pega i estarien encantats, entre ells son La Barraqueta, El Casal de Joves de Gracia, LaTorna , Llibreria Aldarull entre altres , apart com dèiem es pot anar fent a diferents llocs crec que es el interessant Per exemple a Sabadell al Casal Independentista Cancapablanca fa temps que volíem fer uns tallers, així que per llocs no falten, només reactivar un col·lectiu que promoguem Gnu-Linux i com no espai tipus Hackerspace on poder junta a diferent gent. Desde fa temps penso que la gent que estem promoguem el softlliure estem estancats en ghettos (amb tot el respecte) i que fa falta conscienciació i ajudar a que la comunitat creixi molt mes, tinc variïs projectes que en tot cas parlarem mes endavant. Però primer el primer. Busquem una data per xerrar? Jo demà diumenge havia de corregir molts exàmens però pensava fer-ho al solet, a Can Masdeu (M Canyelles) http://www.canmasdeu.net/ I per casualitat he vist que una de les activitats de Can Masdeu demà a la tarda és una xerrada sobre ciberactivisme, un tema del que fa molts anys que estic desconnectat: 16 – 18h: Xerra-taller: Tàctiques d'acció 2.0 en el *ciber-espai i en l'espai físic Del que hem après a la Xarxa i de com es pot extrapolar a tots els espais de lluita... Internet no és només una eina, és una època històrica. El desenvolupament tecnològic modifica les formes d'organització, de pensar i de veure el món. Internet és una eina i un camp de batalla. Internet no és “per fer-me publicitat”, és per compartir i relacionar inputs, és l'oportunitat d'actuar diferent i canviar les regles del joc. Compte! Nota per millorar la comprensió: El que diem a Internet és rellevant només si incideix fora de la xarxa. Nota per millorar la comprensió encara més: quan diem “incidir fora” no ens referim a muntar manis, sinó a canviar el món… però això esperem que quedi clar durant la xerrada-taller. Jo estaré per allà. Suposo que és massa precipitat com per que sigui alhora una trobada de la gent que estem interessats en això que et comentes, però si et passes ens podem trobar i xerrar una mica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/12748044c6ae80edad80fd2852fab...@probeta.net
Re: Presentació
Ens veiem alla llavors... El 02/03/13 14:13, a...@probeta.net escribió: A 2013-03-02 14:01, serotoninaeh escrigué: Es molt interessant la teva proposta!! Jo encantat! El local que comentaves aquí pertany? A part a Gracia conec variïs llocs que no posarien cap mena de pega i estarien encantats, entre ells son La Barraqueta, El Casal de Joves de Gracia, LaTorna , Llibreria Aldarull entre altres , apart com dèiem es pot anar fent a diferents llocs crec que es el interessant Per exemple a Sabadell al Casal Independentista Cancapablanca fa temps que volíem fer uns tallers, així que per llocs no falten, només reactivar un col·lectiu que promoguem Gnu-Linux i com no espai tipus Hackerspace on poder junta a diferent gent. Desde fa temps penso que la gent que estem promoguem el softlliure estem estancats en ghettos (amb tot el respecte) i que fa falta conscienciació i ajudar a que la comunitat creixi molt mes, tinc variïs projectes que en tot cas parlarem mes endavant. Però primer el primer. Busquem una data per xerrar? Jo demà diumenge havia de corregir molts exàmens però pensava fer-ho al solet, a Can Masdeu (M Canyelles) http://www.canmasdeu.net/ I per casualitat he vist que una de les activitats de Can Masdeu demà a la tarda és una xerrada sobre ciberactivisme, un tema del que fa molts anys que estic desconnectat: 16 – 18h: Xerra-taller: Tàctiques d'acció 2.0 en el *ciber-espai i en l'espai físic Del que hem après a la Xarxa i de com es pot extrapolar a tots els espais de lluita... Internet no és només una eina, és una època històrica. El desenvolupament tecnològic modifica les formes d'organització, de pensar i de veure el món. Internet és una eina i un camp de batalla. Internet no és “per fer-me publicitat”, és per compartir i relacionar inputs, és l'oportunitat d'actuar diferent i canviar les regles del joc. Compte! Nota per millorar la comprensió: El que diem a Internet és rellevant només si incideix fora de la xarxa. Nota per millorar la comprensió encara més: quan diem “incidir fora” no ens referim a muntar manis, sinó a canviar el món… però això esperem que quedi clar durant la xerrada-taller. Jo estaré per allà. Suposo que és massa precipitat com per que sigui alhora una trobada de la gent que estem interessats en això que et comentes, però si et passes ens podem trobar i xerrar una mica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131fd67.7070...@riseup.net
Re: Presentació
Hola! Hem presento, sóc en David i visc al Vallès Occidental, tot i que per feina estic bastant per Barcelona. Actualment treballo en una empresa editorial al departament de sistemes. De fet des-de que estic he aconseguit treure una mica la windows dependència i hem instal·lat varis servidors amb Linux, sobre tot Debian, tant com servidor FTP físic, com servidors virtuals per serveis de correu amb Postfix, Wikis, Inventaris amb OCS i control de màquines critiques amb Nagios. M'asembla molt bona idea el tema de quedar en un local. Imagino que ja anirem concretant. Salut! 2013/3/2 serotoninaeh serotonin...@riseup.net Ens veiem alla llavors... El 02/03/13 14:13, a...@probeta.net escribió: A 2013-03-02 14:01, serotoninaeh escrigué: Es molt interessant la teva proposta!! Jo encantat! El local que comentaves aquí pertany? A part a Gracia conec variïs llocs que no posarien cap mena de pega i estarien encantats, entre ells son La Barraqueta, El Casal de Joves de Gracia, LaTorna , Llibreria Aldarull entre altres , apart com dèiem es pot anar fent a diferents llocs crec que es el interessant Per exemple a Sabadell al Casal Independentista Cancapablanca fa temps que volíem fer uns tallers, així que per llocs no falten, només reactivar un col·lectiu que promoguem Gnu-Linux i com no espai tipus Hackerspace on poder junta a diferent gent. Desde fa temps penso que la gent que estem promoguem el softlliure estem estancats en ghettos (amb tot el respecte) i que fa falta conscienciació i ajudar a que la comunitat creixi molt mes, tinc variïs projectes que en tot cas parlarem mes endavant. Però primer el primer. Busquem una data per xerrar? Jo demà diumenge havia de corregir molts exàmens però pensava fer-ho al solet, a Can Masdeu (M Canyelles) http://www.canmasdeu.net/ I per casualitat he vist que una de les activitats de Can Masdeu demà a la tarda és una xerrada sobre ciberactivisme, un tema del que fa molts anys que estic desconnectat: 16 – 18h: Xerra-taller: Tàctiques d'acció 2.0 en el *ciber-espai i en l'espai físic Del que hem après a la Xarxa i de com es pot extrapolar a tots els espais de lluita... Internet no és només una eina, és una època històrica. El desenvolupament tecnològic modifica les formes d'organització, de pensar i de veure el món. Internet és una eina i un camp de batalla. Internet no és “per fer-me publicitat”, és per compartir i relacionar inputs, és l'oportunitat d'actuar diferent i canviar les regles del joc. Compte! Nota per millorar la comprensió: El que diem a Internet és rellevant només si incideix fora de la xarxa. Nota per millorar la comprensió encara més: quan diem “incidir fora” no ens referim a muntar manis, sinó a canviar el món… però això esperem que quedi clar durant la xerrada-taller. Jo estaré per allà. Suposo que és massa precipitat com per que sigui alhora una trobada de la gent que estem interessats en això que et comentes, però si et passes ens podem trobar i xerrar una mica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-REQUEST@**lists.debian.orgdebian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**5131fd67.7070...@riseup.nethttp://lists.debian.org/5131fd67.7070...@riseup.net -- David Peña Administrador Sistemes Informàtics *Telf. 93 376 36 36* www.digital-text.com david.pe...@digital-text.com Aquest correu electrònic i els seus fitxers adjunts contenen informació de caràcter confidencial exclusivament dirigida als seus destinataris. En cas d'haver rebut aquest correu per error, li demanem que ens el reenviï immediatament a aquesta adreça electrònica o ens ho notifiqui al telèfon (+34) 902 876 396. En queda prohibida la divulgació, còpia o distribució a tercers sense l'autorització prèvia i per escrit del titular. D’acord amb el que s'estableix a la Llei orgànica 15/1999, de 13 de desembre, de protecció de dades de caràcter personal, AULA DIGITAL-TEXT SL garanteix l’adopció de les mesures necessàries per a la protecció de les seves dades personals i la seva adreça de correu electrònic. Este correo electrónico y sus ficheros adjuntos contienen información de carácter confidencial exclusivamente dirigida a sus destinatarios. En caso de haber recibido este correo por error, le rogamos que lo reenvíe inmediatamente a esta misma dirección o nos lo notifique al teléfono (+34) 902 876 396. Queda prohibida su divulgación, copia o distribución a terceros sin la autorización previa y por escrito del titular. De acuerdo con lo establecido en la Ley orgánica 15/1999, de 13 de diciembre, de protección de datos de carácter personal, AULA DIGITAL-TEXT S.L. garantiza la adopción de las medidas necesarias para la protección de sus datos personales y su dirección de correo electrónico.
Re: Presentació
Hola a tothom! Em dic Daniel, sóc estudiant i Debian Maintainer (wannabe). M'apunto! David, just hi ha una cosa que no puc aconseguir fer amb el meu servidor Postfix... potser tu em podries ajudar? :) Salut i fins aviat! On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 18:17:54 +0100, David Peña wrote: Hola! Hem presento, sóc en David i visc al Vallès Occidental, tot i que per feina estic bastant per Barcelona. Actualment treballo en una empresa editorial al departament de sistemes. De fet des-de que estic he aconseguit treure una mica la windows dependència i hem instal·lat varis servidors amb Linux, sobre tot Debian, tant com servidor FTP físic, com servidors virtuals per serveis de correu amb Postfix, Wikis, Inventaris amb OCS i control de màquines critiques amb Nagios. M'asembla molt bona idea el tema de quedar en un local. Imagino que ja anirem concretant. Salut! -- Daniel Martí - mv...@mvdan.cc - GPG 0x58BF72C3 pgpuK2IIGhTvs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Presentació
Una pregunta, utilitzas Proxmox? Estic bastant interesat en que fem alguns tallers sobre proxmox David Peña david.pe...@digital-text.com ha escrit: Hola! Hem presento, sóc en David i visc al Vallès Occidental, tot i que per feina estic bastant per Barcelona. Actualment treballo en una empresa editorial al departament de sistemes. De fet des-de que estic he aconseguit treure una mica la windows dependència i hem instal·lat varis servidors amb Linux, sobre tot Debian, tant com servidor FTP físic, com servidors virtuals per serveis de correu amb Postfix, Wikis, Inventaris amb OCS i control de màquines critiques amb Nagios. M'asembla molt bona idea el tema de quedar en un local. Imagino que ja anirem concretant. Salut! 2013/3/2 serotoninaeh serotonin...@riseup.net Ens veiem alla llavors... El 02/03/13 14:13, a...@probeta.net escribió: A 2013-03-02 14:01, serotoninaeh escrigué: Es molt interessant la teva proposta!! Jo encantat! El local que comentaves aquí pertany? A part a Gracia conec variïs llocs que no posarien cap mena de pega i estarien encantats, entre ells son La Barraqueta, El Casal de Joves de Gracia, LaTorna , Llibreria Aldarull entre altres , apart com dèiem es pot anar fent a diferents llocs crec que es el interessant Per exemple a Sabadell al Casal Independentista Cancapablanca fa temps que volíem fer uns tallers, així que per llocs no falten, només reactivar un col·lectiu que promoguem Gnu-Linux i com no espai tipus Hackerspace on poder junta a diferent gent. Desde fa temps penso que la gent que estem promoguem el softlliure estem estancats en ghettos (amb tot el respecte) i que fa falta conscienciació i ajudar a que la comunitat creixi molt mes, tinc variïs projectes que en tot cas parlarem mes endavant. Però primer el primer. Busquem una data per xerrar? Jo demà diumenge havia de corregir molts exàmens però pensava fer-ho al solet, a Can Masdeu (M Canyelles) http://www.canmasdeu.net/ I per casualitat he vist que una de les activitats de Can Masdeu demà a la tarda és una xerrada sobre ciberactivisme, un tema del que fa molts anys que estic desconnectat: 16 – 18h: Xerra-taller: Tàctiques d'acció 2.0 en el *ciber-espai i en l'espai físic Del que hem après a la Xarxa i de com es pot extrapolar a tots els espais de lluita... Internet no és només una eina, és una època històrica. El desenvolupament tecnològic modifica les formes d'organització, de pensar i de veure el món. Internet és una eina i un camp de batalla. Internet no és “per fer-me publicitat”, és per compartir i relacionar inputs, és l'oportunitat d'actuar diferent i canviar les regles del joc. Compte! Nota per millorar la comprensió: El que diem a Internet és rellevant només si incideix fora de la xarxa. Nota per millorar la comprensió encara més: quan diem “incidir fora” no ens referim a muntar manis, sinó a canviar el món… però això esperem que quedi clar durant la xerrada-taller. Jo estaré per allà. Suposo que és massa precipitat com per que sigui alhora una trobada de la gent que estem interessats en això que et comentes, però si et passes ens podem trobar i xerrar una mica. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-catalan-REQUEST@**lists.debian.orgdebian-user-catalan-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**5131fd67.7070...@riseup.nethttp://lists.debian.org/5131fd67.7070...@riseup.net -- David Peña Administrador Sistemes Informàtics *Telf. 93 376 36 36* www.digital-text.com david.pe...@digital-text.com Aquest correu electrònic i els seus fitxers adjunts contenen informació de caràcter confidencial exclusivament dirigida als seus destinataris. En cas d'haver rebut aquest correu per error, li demanem que ens el reenviï immediatament a aquesta adreça electrònica o ens ho notifiqui al telèfon (+34) 902 876 396. En queda prohibida la divulgació, còpia o distribució a tercers sense l'autorització prèvia i per escrit del titular. D’acord amb el que s'estableix a la Llei orgànica 15/1999, de 13 de desembre, de protecció de dades de caràcter personal, AULA DIGITAL-TEXT SL garanteix l’adopció de les mesures necessàries per a la protecció de les seves dades personals i la seva adreça de correu electrònic. Este correo electrónico y sus ficheros adjuntos contienen información de carácter confidencial exclusivamente dirigida a sus destinatarios. En caso de haber recibido este correo por error, le rogamos que lo reenvíe inmediatamente a esta misma dirección o nos lo notifique al teléfono (+34) 902 876 396. Queda prohibida su divulgación, copia o distribución a terceros sin la autorización previa y por escrito del titular. De acuerdo con lo establecido en la Ley orgánica 15/1999, de 13 de diciembre, de protección de datos de carácter personal, AULA DIGITAL-TEXT S.L. garantiza la adopción de las medidas necesarias para la protección de sus datos personales
Re: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console
Le Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:10:01 +0100, SIAGEP - Stéphane RIGOULOT a écrit : Pourquoi le script appelé par cron ne voit pas la commande tune2fs ? Le problème est le même pour toutes les autres partitions du système, ce n'est pas lié à /dev/sda6. J'ai déjà eu le même problème : résolu en mettant le chemin absolu des commandes/fichiers data. AMHA $PATH n'est pas le même. D'autres (meilleurs) que moi donneront l'explication qui m'intéresse aussi. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131b498$0$2302$426a7...@news.free.fr
Programmer un renvoi d'email
Bonjour, La plupart des clients de messagerie électronique permettent à leurs utilisateurs de renvoyer leurs messages électroniques, pendant leur congés, par exemple. Est-il possible de le faire par programmation, si besoin en dédiant un serveur à cet usage ? Pour être plus précis, voici un exemple de ce que j'aimerai faire: - je suis suceptible de recevoir des messages aux adresses arriv...@exemple.fr et arriv...@exemple.fr (hébergées chez un prestataire quelconque) - j'ai une infrastructure avec une IP publique (ex: 1.2.3.4) et un nom de domaine mondomaine.fr qui pointe vers cette adresse publique - j'ai deux serveurs (Debian) dans cette infrastructure - sur un serveur, j'ai un programme qui va par exemple, en fonction de la météo, déterminer s'il vaut mieux envoyer les emails à arriv...@exemple.frou à arriv...@exemple.fr - sur l'autre serveur, je souhaite installer ce qui manque pour + d'une part, recevoir les emails sur une adresse recept...@mondomaine.fret les router selon les cas à arriv...@exemple.fr ou arriv...@exemple.fr, + et d'autre part, recevoir les ordres de routage en provenance du premier serveur. Ma question est : que dois-je installer sur le deuxième serveur ? Slts
Re: vidéo France 5
On 01/03/2013 20:47, Klaus Becker wrote: Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 20:22:24, David BERCOT a écrit : Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:20 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex http://www.france5.fr/sante/le-magazine-de-la-sante/video?video=le-magazine-de-la-sante_1362055200 Je reçois un message d'erreur comme quoi il n'y a pas de solution d'affichage, ceci avec un encodage pourri que je n'ai pas avec d'autres sites. Je ne comprends pas de quel format de vidéo il s'agit. En tout cas c'est moche, surtout pour une chaîne publique et intéressante à mon avis. librement Essaie de voir si l'emission est toujours sur pluzz. Tu n'auras pas besoin de moonlight (pour l'instant). - Fabien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131caea.2020...@free.fr
Re: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console
Le 02/03/2013 09:13, moi-meme a écrit : J'ai déjà eu le même problème : résolu en mettant le chemin absolu des commandes/fichiers data. .../... Chez moi ça ne marche pas aussi bien, la commande grep semble plus récalcitrante. Dans le script appelé par cron, /sbin/tune2fs -l fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie fonctionne mais /sbin/tune2fs -l | /bin/grep ma chaine de tri fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie ne fonctionne pas. Ce n'est pas bien grave, je scinde l'opération en deux, l'opération grep se faisant par un autre script appelé directement en ligne de commande. Merci pour vos pistes. Cordialement Christophe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131cbb3.5050...@laposte.net
Re: Programmer un renvoi d'email
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 10:16:07 +0100 Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr wrote: Ma question est : que dois-je installer sur le deuxième serveur ? Il me semble que la plupart des webmails font ça squirrelmail, roundcube, etc -- Jorkapf: Mais il est vraiment con! avec Bac S mention très bien il aurait dut faire médecine où quelques chose comme ça... Rain: Ce ne sont pas nos aptitudes qui décident ce que nous sommes, ce sont nos choix. Jorkapf: De qui tu tires ça? Nietzsche? Platon? Descartes peut-être? -_- Rain: Non Rain: Albus Dumbledore Rain: Inculte. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302132821.423c2771@anubis.defcon1
mplayer détection de plus de flux
Sur mon RPi (sous Raspbian : je reste en charte!) Je lis un flux audio d'une radio : mplayer -slave -idle -input file=/tmp/mplayer-fifo en mode esclave j'envoie les commandes à mplayer par des echo commande /tmp/mplayer-fifo. Quelquefois mplayer perd le flux. Je relance une commande de lecture et ça repart. Pas vu de moyen de détecter automatiquement la perte de flux pour relancer. Pourtant Dieu (et d'autres !) savent si j'ai cherché. Quelqu'un a t'il la solution que je puisse laisser mon esprit se reposer ? D'avance merci. (Souvent quand on ne voit pas la solution c'est qu'elle vous crève les yeux). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51320e46$0$1958$426a7...@news.free.fr
klogd : création d'un groupe et mot de passe
Bonjour, J'ai installé sysklogd et klogd sur un serveur Debian. Dans le LogWatch reçu par Mail je vois ces lignes : - Connections (secure-log) Begin New Users: klog (115) New Groups: klog (123) Changed password expiry for users: klog : 1 Time(s) **Unmatched Entries** groupadd: group added to /etc/group: name=klog, GID=123: 1 Time(s) groupadd: group added to /etc/gshadow: name=klog: 1 Time(s) usermod: change user 'klog' password: 1 Time(s) --- Est-normal que le système ait tenté : d'installer le groupe klogd et créé un mot de passe ? et pourquoi ces entrées sont refusés : Unmatched Entries ? Merci. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303021611.29835.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: vidéo France 5
On 03/01/2013 08:19 PM, Klaus Becker wrote: 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex http://www.france5.fr/sante/le-magazine-de-la-sante/video?video=le-magazine-de-la-sante_1362055200 Je reçois un message d'erreur comme quoi il n'y a pas de solution d'affichage, ceci avec un encodage pourri que je n'ai pas avec d'autres sites. Je ne comprends pas de quel format de vidéo il s'agit. En tout cas c'est moche, surtout pour une chaîne publique et intéressante à mon avis. Bonjour Il est scandaleux qu'un service public TV, donc financé par les citoyens, ne soit pas accessible sans passer par des bidouillages à base de plugins commerciaux ou/et périmés. Que fiche la la gauche au pouvoir ? Quid du html5 ? Exemple video html5 (Nostalgie..) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcEf84esims Pour info, j'utilise firefox ESR 17.0.3, incompatible avec le vieux Moonlight que Novell daigne procurer aux utilisateurs de firefox. -- Maderios Art is meant to disturb. Science reassures. L'art est fait pour troubler. La science rassure (Georges Braque) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51321840.1010...@gmail.com
Re: vidéo France 5
Le samedi 2 mars 2013 16:18:24, maderios a écrit : On 03/01/2013 08:19 PM, Klaus Becker wrote: 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex http://www.france5.fr/sante/le-magazine-de-la-sante/video?video=le-magazine-de-la-sante_1362055200 Je reçois un message d'erreur comme quoi il n'y a pas de solution d'affichage, ceci avec un encodage pourri que je n'ai pas avec d'autres sites. Je ne comprends pas de quel format de vidéo il s'agit. En tout cas c'est moche, surtout pour une chaîne publique et intéressante à mon avis. Bonjour Il est scandaleux qu'un service public TV, donc financé par les citoyens, ne soit pas accessible sans passer par des bidouillages à base de plugins commerciaux ou/et périmés. Que fiche la la gauche au pouvoir ? Quid du html5 ? Exemple video html5 (Nostalgie..) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcEf84esims Pour info, j'utilise firefox ESR 17.0.3, incompatible avec le vieux Moonlight que Novell daigne procurer aux utilisateurs de firefox. Je suis bien d'accord avec toi. Klaus -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303021642.45956.colon...@free.fr
Re: vidéo France 5
Le samedi 2 mars 2013 10:48:26, Fabien R a écrit : On 01/03/2013 20:47, Klaus Becker wrote: Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 20:22:24, David BERCOT a écrit : Le Fri, 1 Mar 2013 20:19:20 +0100, Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr a écrit : 'soir, sous unstable et avec Iceweasel 14.0.1, je n'arrive pas à lire par ex http://www.france5.fr/sante/le-magazine-de-la-sante/video?video=le-magazine-de-la-sante_1362055200 Je reçois un message d'erreur comme quoi il n'y a pas de solution d'affichage, ceci avec un encodage pourri que je n'ai pas avec d'autres sites. Je ne comprends pas de quel format de vidéo il s'agit. En tout cas c'est moche, surtout pour une chaîne publique et intéressante à mon avis. librement Essaie de voir si l'emission est toujours sur pluzz. Tu n'auras pas besoin de moonlight (pour l'instant). - Fabien Je sais bien, mais je voulais surtout savoir ce qui ce passe et je n'avais pas pensé à silverlight. Je n'avais pas imaginé qu'un site comme France 5 utilise ça. Klaus -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303021644.14769.colon...@free.fr
Re: klogd : création d'un groupe et mot de passe
Bonjour, Le samedi 02 mars 2013 à 16:11, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit : Est-normal que le système ait tenté : d'installer le groupe klogd et créé un mot de passe ? À peu près tous les services ont leur utilisateur / groupe dédié, c'est on ne peut plus normal, même souhaitable, si tous les services étaient exécutés par root… Seb -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302171909.gc2...@serveur.nob900.homeip.net
Re: Logiciel QCM + réponses écrites
Bonjour, Peut-être que w.c.s(http://www.entrouvert.com/fr/e-administration/wcs/) répondra à tes besoins. Cordialement, --- _ / Serghei MIHAI \ | Email : serghei.mi...@devlibre.net | | Jabber : sergiu.mi...@devlibre.net | \ GPG key: 4096R/BF2FA1AF / - \ \ /@~-. \/ __ .- | // // @ signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Logiciel QCM + réponses écrites
On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 16:38:11 +0100 Serghei MIHAI sergiu.mi...@devlibre.net wrote: Peut-être que w.c.s(http://www.entrouvert.com/fr/e-administration/wcs/) répondra à tes besoins. Ça semble alléchant, je bookmark! -- Kevin: nan mé serieux ske je lui é di CT pa 1 sultant marmotte: . c'était un maharajah alors \o/ Kevin: G pa compri -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302190942.26418aaa@anubis.defcon1
Re: mplayer détection de plus de flux
Bonsoir, moi-meme chie...@free.fr writes: Je lis un flux audio d'une radio : mplayer -slave -idle -input file=/tmp/mplayer-fifo en mode esclave j'envoie les commandes à mplayer par des echo commande /tmp/mplayer-fifo. Quelquefois mplayer perd le flux. Je relance une commande de lecture et ça repart. Pas vu de moyen de détecter automatiquement la perte de flux pour relancer. Et si tu mets -loop 0, mplayer ne reprend pas automatiquement ? Pourtant Dieu (et d'autres !) savent si j'ai cherché. Dieu aurait pu te donner la solution puisqu'il est soit disant tout puissant ! :) Quelqu'un a t'il la solution que je puisse laisser mon esprit se reposer ? D'avance merci. (Souvent quand on ne voit pas la solution c'est qu'elle vous crève les yeux). -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fw0dei7q.fsf@mozart.musiciens
Re: mplayer détection de plus de flux
Le Sat, 02 Mar 2013 20:10:03 +0100, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit : Pas vu de moyen de détecter automatiquement la perte de flux pour relancer. Et si tu mets -loop 0, mplayer ne reprend pas automatiquement ? non ça colle pas. en Fait c'est pas un morceau de musique mais un flux. Pourtant Dieu (et d'autres !) savent si j'ai cherché. Dieu aurait pu te donner la solution puisqu'il est soit disant tout puissant ! Je suis un mécréant : il me regarde mais ne m'aide pas (il rigole de me malheurs). Je mettrai un cierge demain matin quand l'église sera ouverte. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51325d12$0$2302$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: mplayer détection de plus de flux
On 02 Mar 2013 20:12:02 GMT moi-meme chie...@free.fr wrote: Je mettrai un cierge demain matin quand l'église sera ouverte. Ta vie sexuelle… ne nous regarde pas :) -- Debian Hint #35: In search for some games? Take a look at 'goplay', which offers a nice frontend for browsing through all kind of games. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302214419.1c9d506a@anubis.defcon1
Re: Logiciel QCM + réponses écrites
On Saturday 02 March 2013 16:38:11 Serghei MIHAI wrote: Peut-être que w.c.s(http://www.entrouvert.com/fr/e-administration/wcs/) répondra à tes besoins. Cordialement, Serghei MIHAI Merci beaucoup, je vais l'installer et le tester et je te donnerai mon avis. André -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303022204.35762.andre_deb...@numericable.fr
Re: apt-get update et apt-get upgrade
On 2013-03-01 16:31:41 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage wrote:
Le vendredi 1 mars 2013 à 14:59:43, Vincent Lefevre a écrit :
[…]
Aussi, j'ajouterais que la résolution des conflits par
aptitude est parfois étrange, et il lui arrive de vouloir
supprimer beaucoup de paquets. Souvent apt-get s'en sort
mieux, donc je repasse à apt-get (install avec des paquets
particuliers, ou bien dist-upgrade) dans ces cas-là.
Euh, tu as vu que tu pouvais :
1. choisir la solution ('e' pour voir les solutions, '.' et ','
pour défiler parmi celles-ci, '!' pour en appliquer une)
(c’est écrit en bas) ;
Mais parfois aucune des solutions n'est bonne.
Par exemple, actuellement, aptitude me dit:
iuA libv4l-0 +1,024 B 0.8.8-3 0.8.9-1
iuA libv4lconvert0 0.8.8-3 0.8.9-1
The following packages depend on version 0.8.8-3 of libv4l-0, and will be ▒
broken if it is upgraded. ▒
▒
* lib32v4l-0 depends on libv4l-0 (= 0.8.8-3) ▒
[1(1)/...] Suggest 2 keeps
Avec 'e':
--\ Keep the following packages at their current version:
libv4l-0[0.8.8-3 (now, testing)]
libv4lconvert0 [0.8.8-3 (now, testing)]
Cela ne m'avance à rien du tout si le but est d'upgrader.
Puis '.':
--\ Remove the following packages:
libv4lconvert0 [0.8.8-3 (now, testing)]
--\ Downgrade the following packages:
lib32v4l-0 [0.8.8-3 now, testing - 0.8.0-1 stable]
libv4l-0[0.8.8-3 now, testing - 0.8.0-1 stable]
Je ne veux pas de downgrade, mais un upgrade.
Puis '.':
No more solutions.
Bref, aptitude ne propose aucune solution satisfaisante.
Avec apt-get:
# apt-get install libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
lib32bz2-1.0 lib32z1
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following packages will be REMOVED:
ia32-libs lib32v4l-0
The following packages will be upgraded:
libv4l-0 libv4lconvert0
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 2 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
Need to get 159 kB of archives.
After this operation, 84.1 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
Là, c'est plus intéressant. Il se trouve que je n'ai plus besoin de
ces bibliothèques 32-bit (elles me servaient pour le programme de
flashage de mon Nokia N900, qui est maintenant en panne).
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Re: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console
On 2013-03-02 08:13:12 +, moi-meme wrote: Le Sat, 02 Mar 2013 02:10:01 +0100, SIAGEP - Stéphane RIGOULOT a écrit : Pourquoi le script appelé par cron ne voit pas la commande tune2fs ? Le problème est le même pour toutes les autres partitions du système, ce n'est pas lié à /dev/sda6. J'ai déjà eu le même problème : résolu en mettant le chemin absolu des commandes/fichiers data. AMHA $PATH n'est pas le même. J'ai aussi eu le même problème lié à un $PATH différent. Ma solution a été de modifier le $PATH dans le fichier /etc/crontab: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303003718.gb6...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console
On 2013-03-02 10:51:47 +0100, C Diaz wrote: Chez moi ça ne marche pas aussi bien, la commande grep semble plus récalcitrante. Dans le script appelé par cron, /sbin/tune2fs -l fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie fonctionne mais /sbin/tune2fs -l | /bin/grep ma chaine de tri fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie ne fonctionne pas. Ce n'est pas bien grave, je scinde l'opération en deux, l'opération grep se faisant par un autre script appelé directement en ligne de commande. Le résultat de grep peut dépendre des locales, et il se peut que les locales avec cron et avec un shell interactif soient différentes. Ceci dit, avec les chaîne que tu donnes dans ton script, il serait étonnant de voir une différence. Autre chose... Est-ce que les deux commandes suivantes donnent la même sortie? /sbin/tune2fs -l fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie /sbin/tune2fs -l | cat fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie (Certains utilitaires perdent des données avec un pipe sous certaines conditions.) -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303010639.gc6...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: mplayer détection de plus de flux
moi-meme chie...@free.fr writes: non ça colle pas. en Fait c'est pas un morceau de musique mais un flux. Oui, mais normalement, même pour un flux, -loop ça reprend si la dconnexion a été interrompue. Après, je ne lance jamais en slave, donc peut-être que ça réagit différemment. Je suis un mécréant : il me regarde mais ne m'aide pas (il rigole de me malheurs). Je mettrai un cierge demain matin quand l'église sera ouverte. Ça peut peut-être marché ! :) Raphaël -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877glpdzye.fsf@mozart.musiciens
Re: resultat different d'un script appele par cron ou en console
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 03/03/2013 02:06, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : On 2013-03-02 10:51:47 +0100, C Diaz wrote: Salut Chez moi ça ne marche pas aussi bien, la commande grep semble plus récalcitrante. Dans le script appelé par cron, /sbin/tune2fs -l fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie fonctionne mais /sbin/tune2fs -l | /bin/grep ma chaine de tri fichier_enregistrant_la_sortie ne fonctionne pas. Ce n'est pas bien grave, je scinde l'opération en deux, l'opération grep se faisant par un autre script appelé directement en ligne de commande. ce ne serait il pas un broblème dash (utilisé par cron) et bash (quand tu lances à la main)? philippe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRMtnBAAoJEACDPLeL1qJwpgsIAKCM59vsi5b+TKN/f9Z7uuGq p/zFtwOGZstF2d66zwxjw29t635L4EoIEbvAYGW5WbxCqQIWh+n0+1VyB/JOqNsa GqUzSnTE6tlf8sK75ZVijub6WT6MrH3lhHuBEyZ6/oETe6go7iKbqdxxKu74bFQC zZKYX/Vox0+cUhVxhxsMNI/67/3ONuduPTfdpzNsnrujfmGo/uqe8lJS9qGMU4LF nbcpmKC4sSa13+o2j06r+HcF5IfTpqF0gmcNju39thnj464J4OFgV5mKxy6tNAP9 2il/IQCDbrfj6v13QBQrtpcFBCYW918GBXNYaP+AvIXwmfQNg2SDkHff1VjWH/U= =G8d3 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Configurar Squeeze (el programa archivador)
Hola, En Wheezy con XFCE se incluye la aplicación squeeze para la gestión de archivadores (y compresión/descompresión) y aunque parece muy sencilla de momento me sirve para lo que necesito pero no encuentro la forma de configurarlo para que al extraer los archivos no genere los directorios originales. ¿Es posible hacerlo y si es así, cómo? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgsnhu$er8$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: tux guitar no suena
El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 01:25:18 -0300, Agustín Ruatta escribió: El 01/03/13 23:30, francisco cid escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 (...) Otra cosa que tengo para decir, sin ánimos de ofender, como consejo, busca antes en Google, aunque sea algo rápido, que casi siempre a éstos tipos de problemas existe la solución ;) . Además si lo buscas ahí, lo solucionas enseguida y evitas el retraso entre que te contestamos y todo. ¡Concuerdo! :-) De hecho, este bug de Debian aparece en los primeros resultados: tuxguitar: No sound when playing tabs after installation http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619421 Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgsnq8$er8$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: tux guitar no suena
El día 2 de marzo de 2013 00:45, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.com escribió: root@francisco:/home/francisco# tuxguitar ¿Como root? ¿Qué pasa con tu usuario? $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME not valid : check doc shipped w/ tuxguitar /dev/sequencer: No existe el fichero o el directorio eso fue lo que me salió ¿Hiciste lo que propone la salida? Por favor no hagas top posting y contesta a la lista no al privado. Gracias. El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:17, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió: Hola El 01/03/13 22:00, francisco cid escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 Trata de ejecutarlo desde un terminal gráfico y mira qué mensajes te arroja. Sin esos mensajes es muy poca la ayuda que te podremos prestar. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAAiZAx4=_72me9ywfyheuw0a+fq_fjnvbfc8iaf45x7xwvw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: tux guitar no suena
El día 2 de marzo de 2013 04:24, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.com escribió: gracias a todos, pude solucionar el problema! Que bien y agradezco tu buena disposición al compartir la solución, así si alguien más le sucede lo mismo se beneficiará de tu experiencia. Nuevamente gracias. El 2 de marzo de 2013 01:27, fuente obejuna obeju...@gmail.com escribió: Perdón, lo mandé como privado. Va de nuevo. El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:45, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.com escribió: root@francisco:/home/francisco# tuxguitar $MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME not valid : check doc shipped w/ tuxguitar /dev/sequencer: No existe el fichero o el directorio eso fue lo que me salió El 2 de marzo de 2013 00:17, Juan Lavieri jlavi...@gmail.com escribió: Hola El 01/03/13 22:00, francisco cid escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 Trata de ejecutarlo desde un terminal gráfico y mira qué mensajes te arroja. Sin esos mensajes es muy poca la ayuda que te podremos prestar. saludos! Saludos Juan Lavieri -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51316f5f.8060...@gmail.com Hola, fijate si no te anda faltando el timidity. Instalalo con aptitude # aptitude update ; aptitude install timidity y después vas a la configuración de tuxguitar (herramientas - preferencias o F7) y en la parte de sonido configurás algún puerto del timidity (creo que tendrías que tener 4) algo así como: TiMidity port 0 [128:0] ¡Salud! -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaizax483-9rrffyv87ilqtfahdxxz7d0tgludw7vettops...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Configurar Squeeze (el programa archivador)
El día 2 de marzo de 2013 08:24, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: Hola, En Wheezy con XFCE se incluye la aplicación squeeze para la gestión de archivadores (y compresión/descompresión) y aunque parece muy sencilla de momento me sirve para lo que necesito pero no encuentro la forma de configurarlo para que al extraer los archivos no genere los directorios originales. ¿Es posible hacerlo y si es así, cómo? La usé durante un tiempo, aún lo hago, y nunca supe como hacerlo, aunque le indiques expresamente que extraiga un archivo independiente te crea la ruta completa con directorios. Si creas un comprimido con un solo archivo hace lo mismo. En la página de squeeze no hay documentación y no contestan los mensajes. Suerte. -- usuario linux #274354 normas de la lista: http://wiki.debian.org/es/NormasLista como hacer preguntas inteligentes: http://www.sindominio.net/ayuda/preguntas-inteligentes.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caaizax4ka-53n2rjgeh_8pry79akvuggf-qenmemrrba7ph...@mail.gmail.com
Re: tux guitar no suena
El día 1 de marzo de 2013 23:30, francisco cid francisco...@gmail.com escribió: hola, instalé tux guitar version 1,2 y no puedo hacer que suenen las tablaturas, el sonido funciona bien en las demas aplicaciones, uso debian testing amd 64 saludos! lo instalé hace dos días, junto con timidity (siempre lo instalo con eso) y sonó al primer intento -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAPqjQdShqGEEJBGH�sjx2aedzzbuahynktvqkydn9gu7y...@mail.gmail.com
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 04:34:25PM -0300, Debian GMail wrote: El 28/02/13 11:30, Agustín Dixan. Díaz Corrales escribió: me lio a palos con el evolutions desde hace algún tiempo y con todo y eso llevo tres años y algo usándolo, probaré el icedove a ver q tal. Por cierto alguien ha logrado importar TODO al thunderbird o al mismo icedove?...los 60 y tantos filtros q uso son los q más me han atado al evolution y es realmente un tarea tediosa comenzar de nuevo con el tráfico constante de emails de las listas, amistades, etc... Transferir filtros, no sé. Transferir correos, hay que hacer alguna alquimia, pero va sin problemas. yo el problema de los filtros lo resolví hace unos años, haciéndolos en el webmail... entonces al ser imap, gmail los entrega todos bien ordenaditos =D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302150040.gb3...@gmail.com
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 06:12:09PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Thu, 28 Feb 2013 14:57:07 -0300, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: El jue, 28-02-2013 a las 14:51 +, Camaleón escribió: (...) ¿Qué configuración para smtp tienes en la cuenta de Gmail? en ambas, aunque ahora no estoy en casa, server: smtp.gmail.com puerto:465 seguridad: SSL autenticación: plain (también admite login) que es básicamente la configuración que da google: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/static.py?hl=espage=ts.csts=1668960from=75726rd=1 * Servidor de correo saliente (SMTP) - requiere TLS * smtp.gmail.com * Puerto: 465 o 587 * Requiere SSL: Sí * Requiere autenticación: Sí me quedaría ver que pasa en el puerto 587 Son dos opciones distintas, conviene que pruebes las dos: - smtps → puerto 465/ssl - starttls → puerto 587/tls Y por último, también podrías intentar configurarlo en el puerto 25/ssl. Estas son las tres opciones disponibles. probé cambiando los puertos y nada. Ahora estoy en la computadora problemática, pero con el nunca bien ponderado mutt y no tengo problemas. Evidentemente se pinchó mi evolution, que pena porque mientras todo parece mudarse a la web... yo lo estaba haciendo en evolution, solo me faltaba poder chatear por ahí xD Tocará llenar un reporte de bug -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302150615.gc3...@gmail.com
Re: evolution y gmail, timeout
El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 12:06:16 -0300, YOUR NAME escribió: ^ Creo que te falta cambiar el nombre ;-P On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 06:12:09PM +, Camaleón wrote: Son dos opciones distintas, conviene que pruebes las dos: - smtps → puerto 465/ssl - starttls → puerto 587/tls Y por último, también podrías intentar configurarlo en el puerto 25/ssl. Estas son las tres opciones disponibles. probé cambiando los puertos y nada. Ahora estoy en la computadora problemática, pero con el nunca bien ponderado mutt y no tengo problemas. Entonces el problema está localizado en Evolution. Evidentemente se pinchó mi evolution, que pena porque mientras todo parece mudarse a la web... yo lo estaba haciendo en evolution, solo me faltaba poder chatear por ahí xD Tocará llenar un reporte de bug Antes de mandar un informe de errores prueba a crear un nuevo usuario e intenta configurar la cuenta de Gmail ahí e intenta enviar un correo, a ver qué sucede, así descartas un problema en la configuración del perfil del usuario. (si configuras una cuenta de tipo IMAP recuerda que tienes que dejarle tiempo para que almacene en la caché local los mensajes de lo contrario se te quedará bloqueado el cliente de correo) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgt4vq$er8$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Configurar Squeeze (el programa archivador)
El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 11:24:46 +, Camaleón escribió: En Wheezy con XFCE se incluye la aplicación squeeze para la gestión de archivadores (y compresión/descompresión) y aunque parece muy sencilla de momento me sirve para lo que necesito pero no encuentro la forma de configurarlo para que al extraer los archivos no genere los directorios originales. ¿Es posible hacerlo y si es así, cómo? Me he pasado por el bugzilla de XFCE y no he visto ningún informe sobre este problema... no sé, me parece raro que esta opción tan básica no esté disponible y cierto es que en el cuadro de diálogo de extracción de archivos hay una sección de Opciones en la parte derecha, pero está vacía :-? En fin, he escrito a la lista de desarrolladores a ver si me pueden informar sobre esto: http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce4-dev/2013-March/030183.html Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgt6l6$e87$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: debían inspiron 5420
El 28 de febrero de 2013 10:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Wed, 27 Feb 2013 18:09:35 -0500, Pablo Magé escribió: El 27 de febrero de 2013 11:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) * El problema es que ahora no se ejecuta Debian, inicia el proceso de arranque, emite algunos mensajes y se queda bloqueado, comparto las ultimas líneas que se emiten: Using makefile-style concurrent boot in run level S. Starting the hotplug events dispatcher: udevd Synthestizing the intial hotplug events ... done Waiting for /dev to be fully populated Prueba a pulsar la tecla [enter] a ver si continúa la carga o intenta con lo que sugieren en las Notas de la versión: 4.6.3. Boot timing issues http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#boot-timing Este problema quedo solucionado, ya el arranque de debian funcionó. Comprueba que Windows también inicia bien :-) Muchas gracias por la ayuda. SOLUCIÓN: Al final del archivo /etc/default/grub adicione la linea: rootdelay=25 luego actualice el grub2 con el comando: update-grub (...) Ah, perfecto. Gracias por poner los pasos completos, así le podrá ser útil a quien venga detrás. He visto que ya esta la versión estable debian 6.07, yo tengo instalado debian 6.06. Si instalo esta versión será que ya trae el controlador para la atheros ar8162? Me temo que no :-( Si te fijas en el bug, pone que se ha resulto en el kernel 3.2.39-1 (es una versión del kernel más moderna incluso que la disponible en el repositorio de los backports que actualmente tiene la 3.2.35-2~bpo60+1). Las únicas opciones que veo serían: a) Descargar el driver de atheros y compilarlo para tu versión actual del kernel (tienes las instrucciones en la página del bug que te puse antes) b) Descagar y compilar el kernel completo desde kernel.org c) Esperar a que actualicen el paquete del kernel de backports (tienen una lista de correo donde podrías solicitar una actualización debido a problema, no es garantía de nada pero quizá les parezca una buena idea porque habrá más usuarios afectados). Tome la opción a) para ello descargue el compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u.tar.gz Extraje el archivo Desde el dvd de debian tuve que instalar el paquete build-essential los headers apt-get -s install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r' Ubicado en el directorio compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u ejecute los comandos que indica el sitio del bug: ./scripts/driver-select alx Backup exists: Makefile.bk. Backup exists: Makefile.bk Backup exists: drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/Makefile.bk Backup exists: drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/Makefile.bk Backup exists: Makefile.bks Backup exists: Makefile.bk Backup exists: drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/Makefile.bk Pero cuando ejecuté el comando make, obtuve el siguiente mensaje de error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto.u make: *** [modules] Error 2 Que debo hacer para que el directorio build se genere? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgnrl8$gvc$3...@ger.gmane.org -- Pablo Magé Grupo IDIS FIET-Unicauca
Instalar driver para Atheros AR8162 (Era: debían inspiron 5420)
El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:06:23 -0500, Pablo Magé escribió: (cambio el asunto para adecuarlo al nuevo tema) El 28 de febrero de 2013 10:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) He visto que ya esta la versión estable debian 6.07, yo tengo instalado debian 6.06. Si instalo esta versión será que ya trae el controlador para la atheros ar8162? Me temo que no :-( Si te fijas en el bug, pone que se ha resulto en el kernel 3.2.39-1 (es una versión del kernel más moderna incluso que la disponible en el repositorio de los backports que actualmente tiene la 3.2.35-2~bpo60+1). Las únicas opciones que veo serían: a) Descargar el driver de atheros y compilarlo para tu versión actual del kernel (tienes las instrucciones en la página del bug que te puse antes) (...) Tome la opción a) para ello descargue el compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u.tar.gz Extraje el archivo Desde el dvd de debian tuve que instalar el paquete build-essential los headers apt-get -s install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r' ^^ Me parece que tienes que quitar ese argumento, de lo contrario no instalas nada, sólo simulas hacerlo ;-) Y *ojo* con las comillas del uname -r que no son las 'simples': sm01@stt008:~$ echo `uname -r` 2.6.26-2-amd64 sm01@stt008:~$ echo 'uname -r' uname -r Ubicado en el directorio compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u ejecute los comandos que indica el sitio del bug: (...) Pero cuando ejecuté el comando make, obtuve el siguiente mensaje de error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto.u make: *** [modules] Error 2 Que debo hacer para que el directorio build se genere? Asegúrate de que has instalado correctamente esos dos paquetes y prueba de nuevo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgtho6$d66$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Instalar driver para Atheros AR8162 (Era: debían inspiron 5420)
El 2 de marzo de 2013 13:51, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:06:23 -0500, Pablo Magé escribió: (cambio el asunto para adecuarlo al nuevo tema) El 28 de febrero de 2013 10:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) He visto que ya esta la versión estable debian 6.07, yo tengo instalado debian 6.06. Si instalo esta versión será que ya trae el controlador para la atheros ar8162? Me temo que no :-( Si te fijas en el bug, pone que se ha resulto en el kernel 3.2.39-1 (es una versión del kernel más moderna incluso que la disponible en el repositorio de los backports que actualmente tiene la 3.2.35-2~bpo60+1). Las únicas opciones que veo serían: a) Descargar el driver de atheros y compilarlo para tu versión actual del kernel (tienes las instrucciones en la página del bug que te puse antes) (...) Tome la opción a) para ello descargue el compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u.tar.gz Extraje el archivo Desde el dvd de debian tuve que instalar el paquete build-essential los headers apt-get -s install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r' ^^ Me parece que tienes que quitar ese argumento, de lo contrario no instalas nada, sólo simulas hacerlo ;-) Y *ojo* con las comillas del uname -r que no son las 'simples': sm01@stt008:~$ echo `uname -r` 2.6.26-2-amd64 sm01@stt008:~$ echo 'uname -r' uname -r Ubicado en el directorio compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u ejecute los comandos que indica el sitio del bug: (...) Pero cuando ejecuté el comando make, obtuve el siguiente mensaje de error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto.u make: *** [modules] Error 2 Que debo hacer para que el directorio build se genere? Asegúrate de que has instalado correctamente esos dos paquetes y prueba de nuevou. Ejecute nuevamente el procedimeiento según lo indicado: apt-get -s install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) make make install Pero al ejecutar el comando: modprobe alx Emite el siguiente mensaje de error: FATAL: Error inserting alx(/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/update/drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/alx/alx.ko):Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter(see dmesg) Ya verifique que alx.ko existe. Que podrá ser ahora? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgtho6$d66$1...@ger.gmane.org -- Pablo Magé Grupo IDIS FIET-Unicauca
Re: Instalar driver para Atheros AR8162 (Era: debían inspiron 5420)
Rectifico lo enviado: El 2 de marzo de 2013 19:24, Pablo Magé pma...@gmail.com escribió: El 2 de marzo de 2013 13:51, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:06:23 -0500, Pablo Magé escribió: (cambio el asunto para adecuarlo al nuevo tema) El 28 de febrero de 2013 10:04, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) He visto que ya esta la versión estable debian 6.07, yo tengo instalado debian 6.06. Si instalo esta versión será que ya trae el controlador para la atheros ar8162? Me temo que no :-( Si te fijas en el bug, pone que se ha resulto en el kernel 3.2.39-1 (es una versión del kernel más moderna incluso que la disponible en el repositorio de los backports que actualmente tiene la 3.2.35-2~bpo60+1). Las únicas opciones que veo serían: a) Descargar el driver de atheros y compilarlo para tu versión actual del kernel (tienes las instrucciones en la página del bug que te puse antes) (...) Tome la opción a) para ello descargue el compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u.tar.gz Extraje el archivo Desde el dvd de debian tuve que instalar el paquete build-essential los headers apt-get -s install build-essential linux-headers-'uname -r' ^^ Me parece que tienes que quitar ese argumento, de lo contrario no instalas nada, sólo simulas hacerlo ;-) Y *ojo* con las comillas del uname -r que no son las 'simples': sm01@stt008:~$ echo `uname -r` 2.6.26-2-amd64 sm01@stt008:~$ echo 'uname -r' uname -r Ubicado en el directorio compat-drivers-2013-02-20-u ejecute los comandos que indica el sitio del bug: (...) Pero cuando ejecuté el comando make, obtuve el siguiente mensaje de error: make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/build: No existe el fichero o el directorio. Alto.u make: *** [modules] Error 2 Que debo hacer para que el directorio build se genere? Asegúrate de que has instalado correctamente esos dos paquetes y prueba de nuevou. Ejecute nuevamente el procedimeiento según lo indicado: apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r) make make install Pero al ejecutar el comando: modprobe alx Emite el siguiente mensaje de error: FATAL: Error inserting alx(/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/update/drivers/net/ethernet/atheros/alx/alx.ko):Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter(see dmesg) Ya verifique que alx.ko existe. Que podrá ser ahora? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgtho6$d66$1...@ger.gmane.org -- Pablo Magé Grupo IDIS FIET-Unicauca -- Pablo Magé Grupo IDIS FIET-Unicauca
lilo - keytable read/checksum error
hola, e estado solucionar este problema todo el dia, intente recuperar el inicio de mi debian con el cd de instalacion en modo recuperacion, intente instalar grub, desinstalar lilo, pero sigue el error, y no me deja hacer nada. uso debian testing amd64 sin ningun otro SO más me gustaria poder eliminar lilo, y cambiarme a grub. saludos! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag799-o7ataqicx0tbxw6bfylgvfqxo1r3imx-kotpgmekk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lilo - keytable read/checksum error
On 02/03/13 19:05, francisco cid wrote: hola, e estado solucionar este problema todo el dia, intente recuperar el inicio de mi debian con el cd de instalacion en modo recuperacion, intente instalar grub, desinstalar lilo, pero sigue el error, y no me deja hacer nada. uso debian testing amd64 sin ningun otro SO más me gustaria poder eliminar lilo, y cambiarme a grub. saludos! debian live (no el disco de instalacion normal, es otro), http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ en la obcion de modo de rescate , (o recuperacion no recuerdo bien ), reinstala GRUB es muy facil. lilo , hoy en dia se dice entre los usuarios expertos que yo conosco que se quedo atrado ese programa a comparacion de GRUB que GRUB es MUCHO mas manejable suerte ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5132f9bb.1010...@gmail.com
Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:17:41PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: If anyone is still there, I do want help. I've spent all day at this. Ground rules: Clue for you, pal: you don't set ground rules unless you own the list. 1 - If you can't help, please don't try. 2 - Please don't assume I haven't read how to install Debian. I have. It's no big deal. Your posts don't indicate that. 3 - My computer boots from USB - no problem. I'm booting Debian Live from USB. So, please don't tell me how hard it is or how the BIOS must support it or how I'm too stupid, too lazy, or too arrogant to understand that. 4 - Please don't assume I'm Windows-lazy or Windows-stupid. Windows-NT 3.5 was probably the finest OS ever written when David Cutler was done with it. Then Bill Gates ruined it by creating Direct-X to improve entertainment media performance (thereby bypassing the Intel call-gate mechanism, thereby destroying Intel's 4-level protection model). This directly lead to rootkits and to my hate of Microsoft. Of course, adding port listeners to support RPC-enabled remote desktop utilities (which gave viruses access to the rootkits) closed the deal. 5 - Please, if it's been years since you've tried to install to USB, kindly refrain from complaining and let other people help me. Dictating again? 6 - I have a particular need that will not be met by doing a more standard installation, so if you can't help, please don't suggest that I create a more standard installation of Debian. You want to go directly to the Phd skipping the Bs and Ms. 7 - My objective is not be become a Linux enthusiast. 8 - Please don't suggest that I don't know how to, or that am too lazy to use Google to search for answers. My objective is to create a bootable USB flash drive, or a bootable USB hard drive that I can then use to run Iceweasel Icedove, period. That's all I want to do with Linux. Oh, a partition that can be accessed by both Linux and Windows is needed for downloads and email profiles. The Windows system will not have networking installed. My capabilities: Virtual Machines - I've created and used both VirtualBox and VMware Player virtual machines. If I could run Firefox Thunderbird in a WinXP client without also having to install networking in the WinXP host, I'd do it in a second and wouldn't need Linux. Unix - I used Unix. I've installed and used Solaris. I've designed Sun-compatible single-board computers. Apache - I've installed, configured, and maintained complex, multiple-domain Apache servers. My problem: During the Debian installation (to USB thumb drive or USB hard drive), when it goes to install GRUB, it fails. What can you suggest I do? I will try anything. Try knocking off the arrogant tone. In case you hadn't noticed, there are people on this list trying to help, even though you've insulted them. BTW learn to wrap your lines. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, check the price of the beer. Key ID: 8D549279 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 20:10:34 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/1 6:58 PM, Brian wrote: Any chance of a sight of what syslog reports when GRUB fails to install? How do I get to the syslog? From another mail in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00073.html Some work for you. This iGRUB failure should be repeatable. When it happens switch to console 4 with ALT-F4 and let us know what the last syslog message is. It might mention ISO9660 file system. If that was important, wouldn't the syslog be displayed automatically? It is displayed automatically. All you have to do is look at it. How am I to know about the syslog? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s01.html.en -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302085103.GK14686@desktop
Re: Installation failed
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 17:28:12 +1300 Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote: We have a _community_, each member of which knows some stuff. People can help by mentioning the bits that they know, and putting it together with the bits that other people know. When you read the comments, you can also pick and choose the bits that precisely match your situation, and infer bits that loosely match. Someone else may read Miles' comments, and realise how that fits with your situation, and provide a tip that works. Telling people to stop contributing has no positive outcome whatsoever. The whole system works completely differently from proprietary commercial software. In some ways it may not work as well, in other ways it clearly (to me, anyway) works better. You have to adapt to get the best out of it, rather than trying to bully us all into working the way you're used to. Actually, the most Windows help you can get is from former newsgroups, now web forums, which are rather like this, though sponsored by Microsoft. Occasionally MS people look in and often give technically correct answers, but also often betray limited real-world experience. The real help comes from unpaid regulars, just as here. They also sometimes feel the need to remind rather zealous help-seekers about the 'unpaid' aspect. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302090819.12050...@jretrading.com
Re: RAID1 all bootable
Is this recipe devised for installing grub on both sda and sda with an undamaged RAID1? In my case, with the sda that contained grub loader replaced by a new disk, the rescue mode (using the same CD installer for amd64 wheezy) did not find any partition. Inverting the SATA cables, same result. In both cases (I mean position of SATA cables) I went to the shell in the installer environment: #fisk /dev/sda (or sdb) device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, etc (expected for a raid) #dmesg |grep -i sd sda (and sbb): unknown partition table (expected for a raid), however md: raid0 md: raid1 were identified, along with rai4, 5, 6 etc (unfortunately | less does not work to see the whole message). Am I using the Rescue Mode improperly? I was unable to dig into the HD that contains md0 (booth loader, EXT2) and md1 ( LVM partitions home tmp usr opt var swap EXT3) Thanks a lot for your kind advice francesco pietra On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:09PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi: With a raid1 amd64 wheezy, one of the two HDs got broken. Unfortunately, I had added grub to sda only, which is just the one broken. So that, when it is replaced with a fresh HD, the OS is not found. Inverting the SATA cables of course does not help (Operative System Not Found). In a previous similar circumstance, I was lucky that the broken HD was the one without gru. Is any way to recover? perhaps through Knoppix? I know how to look into undamaged RAID1 with Knoppix. Also, when making a fresh RAID1 from scratch, where to find a Debian description of how to make both sda and sdb bootable? (which should be included by default, in my opinion) You can boot the install disk in rescue mode, select the root partition to chroot into, then run grub-install from there. When grub asks where to install, you should configure it for both sda and sdb. I think 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' is where that is selected. Might need it to use -plow to asks all levels of questions. Not sure. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmvc0+e47n6savowsrctzxdn-7ypg0wn9j1cqukcz1l...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:59:21 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: If he is a troll, then why are we still feeding him? Because we're all hoping to pick up some scraps ourselves. It's rare that even this kind of discussion produces absolutely nothing of any use to anyone. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302091324.1eb8c...@jretrading.com
Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?) Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts to the same thing :) Cheers, Tom -- I think the world is run by C students. -- Al McGuire signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Installation failed
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 20:13:40 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Brian wrote: The kernel has no knowledge about a non-existent hard disk so how can GRUB possibly attempt to install itself there? good point, but then again, what does grub-install (try to) use as a default if a specific device isn't specified? The device holding the installer is probably /dev/sda if was the only one connected to the machine when it was booted. The device being installed to would then be /dev/sdb. Given the go-ahead, GRUB could possibly choose to put itself on /dev/sda. If it does, it is a bug but it is separate from the one Mark has encountered. However, he should be made aware to answer No if he is asked Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record? Then he would type the device name he made a note of at the partitioning stage. [Snip] I'll still bet that the grub-install failure, and subsequent boot failure stems from: - a partitioning error, and/or, - grub-install installing the boot loader in the wrong place, and/or, - a messed up grub configuration file. From the above partitioning table, I'm going to guess that 1. he's booting and running the live-USB from Pri-0, 2. trying to install to Ext-0, 3. maybe re-installing the MBR on Pri-0, 4. not properly setting up the grub configuration to give a choice of booting from either partition Guessing wouldn't be needed if Mark provided a syslog extract showing why the GRUB install fails. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302093944.GL14686@desktop
Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]
On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?) Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts to the same thing :) Cheers, Tom In pascal, means not equal to. I think some of the other languages from that era do the same. For what it's worth, Free Pascal 2.6.2 was recently released: http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,20046.0.html I think an earlier version is in the repository as fpc Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131cb61.5030...@gmail.com
Fwd: RAID1 all bootable
A further piece on information. With knoppix 7.0, the procedure for examining mdadm arrives at cat /proc/partitions sda sdb RAID1 (md0 md1) is not seen. I assume that this is the way Knoppix behaves in this situation. Thanks francesco pietra -- Forwarded message -- From: Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:11 AM Subject: Re: RAID1 all bootable To: Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca, amd64 Debian debian-am...@lists.debian.org, debian-users debian-user@lists.debian.org Is this recipe devised for installing grub on both sda and sda with an undamaged RAID1? In my case, with the sda that contained grub loader replaced by a new disk, the rescue mode (using the same CD installer for amd64 wheezy) did not find any partition. Inverting the SATA cables, same result. In both cases (I mean position of SATA cables) I went to the shell in the installer environment: #fisk /dev/sda (or sdb) device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, etc (expected for a raid) #dmesg |grep -i sd sda (and sbb): unknown partition table (expected for a raid), however md: raid0 md: raid1 were identified, along with rai4, 5, 6 etc (unfortunately | less does not work to see the whole message). Am I using the Rescue Mode improperly? I was unable to dig into the HD that contains md0 (booth loader, EXT2) and md1 ( LVM partitions home tmp usr opt var swap EXT3) Thanks a lot for your kind advice francesco pietra On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:09PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi: With a raid1 amd64 wheezy, one of the two HDs got broken. Unfortunately, I had added grub to sda only, which is just the one broken. So that, when it is replaced with a fresh HD, the OS is not found. Inverting the SATA cables of course does not help (Operative System Not Found). In a previous similar circumstance, I was lucky that the broken HD was the one without gru. Is any way to recover? perhaps through Knoppix? I know how to look into undamaged RAID1 with Knoppix. Also, when making a fresh RAID1 from scratch, where to find a Debian description of how to make both sda and sdb bootable? (which should be included by default, in my opinion) You can boot the install disk in rescue mode, select the root partition to chroot into, then run grub-install from there. When grub asks where to install, you should configure it for both sda and sdb. I think 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' is where that is selected. Might need it to use -plow to asks all levels of questions. Not sure. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmtmhadi2e_uk+wf+c0k9d1ygn3tv91jsr4g2ppp5_a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation failed
On 02/03/13 22:08, Joe wrote: Actually, the most Windows help you can get is from former newsgroups, now web forums, which are rather like this, though sponsored by Microsoft. Occasionally MS people look in and often give technically correct answers, but also often betray limited real-world experience. The real help comes from unpaid regulars, just as here. They also sometimes feel the need to remind rather zealous help-seekers about the 'unpaid' aspect. I stand corrected. My Windows experience is .. a bit dated :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131d624.8050...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:32PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: João, kindly stop responding to this thread. I want help, not noise. Bloody cheek!! Did you behave this way on other distro support lists? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302105848.GC9278@tal
Re: ESC[4m does not produce underline OOPS
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 11:46:42AM -0800, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
On 03/01/13 11:35, Thomas D. Dean wrote:
The ANSI standard lists ESC[4m as the code to produce an underline
export TERM=ansi80x25
printf \033[4masdfasdfasdf
produces green text, not underline text as stated in the standard.
If I put the same in c code, it works
#include stdio.h
int main() {
fputs(\033[4masdfasdf,stdout);
return 0;
}
I get underlined text.
I ran the C example in an xterm on Ubuntu!
The question remains.
Why does this produce color rather than underlined text?
The standard says ESC[32m should produce green text and ESC[4m
should produce underlined text.
It's normally about now that a Mr Thomas Dickey magically appears with
his wisdom, perhaps you could cc him (his address is on the net, but get
a more recent one, I don't think he uses his invisible island address
anymore, although I could be wrong.
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who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the
oppressing. --- Malcolm X
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Re: I wish to advocate linux
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 23:05:13 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Yup. And it's even obvious what he's doing, but he's too obstinate to listen. (trying to install onto the same device he's booting from, without paying attention to partitioning, telling the installer where to put things, or telling grub that it has to worry about two different installs on the same device - idiot) Mark is not trying to do that. However, the implication here is that Debian is not capable of being installed in this manner. It is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302111001.GM14686@desktop
Re: Caldav client on Debian
Yes, Sunbird is fine, but non maintained, and the last version is a beta. I'm looking for something like that who make only calendar management I don't like the Firefox plugin solution because a browser must be a browser, not a swiss knife. I can find a simple caldav client on any other os (android, windows, web based), but on linux nothing I think there is no solution. Thanks you for your response. 2013/3/2 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net Mérof 42 wrote: Hi, I'm using Owncloud since few month, but with the web interface calendar is not really useful I'm looking for a simple caldav client, but I can't find one. Do you have any idea which client can I use? I'm searching a simple client, not like evolution who need a mailbox activated. Maybe Mozilla Sunbird - stand alone calendar, or the associated plug-in for Firefox? (Though, caldav isn't all that useful without a mail client - kind a hard to invite people to meetings, or respond to invitations.) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-requ...@lists.debian.orgwith a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**513143ED.6050107@meetinghouse.**nethttp://lists.debian.org/513143ed.6050...@meetinghouse.net
Re: RAID1 all bootable
Have you assembled you raid devices again (mdadm --assemble /dev/mdX /dev/sdX)? That should still work with the disk that was used for your RAID-1, when that's done you can mount your disk, chroot into it and run grub-install /dev/sda (and grub-install /dev/sdb, so you won't have this problem in the future ;-)). On 2 March 2013 11:10, Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com wrote: A further piece on information. With knoppix 7.0, the procedure for examining mdadm arrives at cat /proc/partitions sda sdb RAID1 (md0 md1) is not seen. I assume that this is the way Knoppix behaves in this situation. Thanks francesco pietra -- Forwarded message -- From: Francesco Pietra chiendar...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 10:11 AM Subject: Re: RAID1 all bootable To: Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca, amd64 Debian debian-am...@lists.debian.org, debian-users debian-user@lists.debian.org Is this recipe devised for installing grub on both sda and sda with an undamaged RAID1? In my case, with the sda that contained grub loader replaced by a new disk, the rescue mode (using the same CD installer for amd64 wheezy) did not find any partition. Inverting the SATA cables, same result. In both cases (I mean position of SATA cables) I went to the shell in the installer environment: #fisk /dev/sda (or sdb) device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, etc (expected for a raid) #dmesg |grep -i sd sda (and sbb): unknown partition table (expected for a raid), however md: raid0 md: raid1 were identified, along with rai4, 5, 6 etc (unfortunately | less does not work to see the whole message). Am I using the Rescue Mode improperly? I was unable to dig into the HD that contains md0 (booth loader, EXT2) and md1 ( LVM partitions home tmp usr opt var swap EXT3) Thanks a lot for your kind advice francesco pietra On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Lennart Sorensen lsore...@csclub.uwaterloo.ca wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:09PM +0100, Francesco Pietra wrote: Hi: With a raid1 amd64 wheezy, one of the two HDs got broken. Unfortunately, I had added grub to sda only, which is just the one broken. So that, when it is replaced with a fresh HD, the OS is not found. Inverting the SATA cables of course does not help (Operative System Not Found). In a previous similar circumstance, I was lucky that the broken HD was the one without gru. Is any way to recover? perhaps through Knoppix? I know how to look into undamaged RAID1 with Knoppix. Also, when making a fresh RAID1 from scratch, where to find a Debian description of how to make both sda and sdb bootable? (which should be included by default, in my opinion) You can boot the install disk in rescue mode, select the root partition to chroot into, then run grub-install from there. When grub asks where to install, you should configure it for both sda and sdb. I think 'dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc' is where that is selected. Might need it to use -plow to asks all levels of questions. Not sure. -- Len Sorensen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caev0nmtmhadi2e_uk+wf+c0k9d1ygn3tv91jsr4g2ppp5_a...@mail.gmail.com
Re: How can I know which deb-multimedia packages I have installed?
Hi Bob, Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com writes: Csanyi Pal wrote: I have installed vuze on my Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) system. My sources.list is: deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free That looks like Sid, not Wheezy. Unless you take special care by pinning your system is a Sid system. I have installed vuze but I can't to use it. I reported a bug here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23700090 I want to follow advice of Michael Gilbert: You have a mix of deb-multimedia packages, which often leads to problems. Please try to reproduce this on a clean installation. So I change my sources.list: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org sid main #deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org testing main and did aptitude update and upgrade. You cannot change your sources and then call it a clean installation. (At least not if you are asking how to do it.) The way to do a clean installation is to do a clean installation. A clean installation in a chroot with debootstrap should be acceptable. That is my typical way of doing things. The problem is that packages outside of the official Debian repository will have a later version numbers. The apt upgrade tools will determine that the system is up to date based upon those version numbers. Mike sed: You should remove all packages that you've installed from either. You can purge and re-install packages. But that may not be the same as a clean installation. It is much easier to simply create a clean chroot and install there. I created a clean chroot by running the following commands in a directory called '/debian-adatok-1/Chroot/': $ cd /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/ $ sudo debootstrap --arch amd64 wheezy . $ sudo chroot /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/ $ sudo mount -o bind /dev /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/dev/ $ sudo mount -o bind /proc /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/proc/ Then I installed vuze in chroot environment by running the command: aptitude install vuze Is this an install of vuze in clean chroot? -- Regards from Pal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4jy57eo@gmail.com
Re: I wish to advocate linux
Brian wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 23:05:13 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Yup. And it's even obvious what he's doing, but he's too obstinate to listen. (trying to install onto the same device he's booting from, without paying attention to partitioning, telling the installer where to put things, or telling grub that it has to worry about two different installs on the same device - idiot) Mark is not trying to do that. However, the implication here is that Debian is not capable of being installed in this manner. It is. Didn't mean to imply that, just that doing so requires a lot more attention to partitioning and grub setup, to get things in the right place and make the new system bootable. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5131ff7f.6080...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Moving from a proprietary OS - unnecessarily inful experience -- was [Re: I wish to advocate linux]
Lars Noodén wrote: On 03/02/2013 11:27 AM, Tom Furie wrote: On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 07:38:41PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: These days it is != :) (I think was not equal to, was it?) Technically, it's less than or greater than, but I suppose it amounts to the same thing :) Cheers, Tom In pascal, means not equal to. I think some of the other languages from that era do the same. For what it's worth, Free Pascal 2.6.2 was recently released: And then you get to the more interesting variants that involve type comparisons e.g., /= and =/= from erlang (not equal and not exactly equal) and that's before comparisons that involve pointers (e.g. Lisp's eq) :-) -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51320369.9020...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Install failed - USB flash to USB drive [SOLVED]
Wait a minute Mark Filipak wrote: I successfully installed this: debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso to a USB flash in Windows with this: dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e: dd, in Windows? which version of dd for windows did you use? (where 'e:' is the USB flash's Windows device letter - note that the 'od=' switch is not documented in command-line help.) Then I booted from the USB flash and installed Debian + LXDE desktop to a USB drive. (The GRUB bootloader install failed toward the end of the installation.) Isn't the the same failure you've been reporting all along? How is this now solved? -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513204f7.3070...@meetinghouse.net
Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised
On 2 March 2013 10:58, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:32PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: João, kindly stop responding to this thread. I want help, not noise. Bloody cheek!! Did you behave this way on other distro support lists? Watching this from afar, what I find staggering is Mr. Filipak's absurd sense of entitlement. His rudeness is followed by orders for help. He has managed to hog the whole list, and get a lot of technical expertise for free, for days now - by displaying the attitude of a particularly badly-behaved child. What a d!ck. H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caerryqh-i8hf3yo11kex+prwp+kpyxtru6+d+m0elsvlknx...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised
Harvey Kelly wrote: On 2 March 2013 10:58, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 08:20:32PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: João, kindly stop responding to this thread. I want help, not noise. Bloody cheek!! Did you behave this way on other distro support lists? Watching this from afar, what I find staggering is Mr. Filipak's absurd sense of entitlement. His rudeness is followed by orders for help. He has managed to hog the whole list, and get a lot of technical expertise for free, for days now - by displaying the attitude of a particularly badly-behaved child. What a d!ck. but it has been fascinating, in a train-wreck, troll-baiting kind of way :-) actually, as someone pointed out, there were a few things to be learned from the discussion -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51320a00.4020...@meetinghouse.net
elpa install failed
I tried installing elpa on wheezy emacs and the install failed. It appears the control-j key when pressed after the piece of code is put into the scratch buffer and the cursor is positioned just after the last right parenthesis does nothing. Was this some kind of security fix put into the debian flavor of emacs? According to standard emacs documentation control-j at the end of a code block is supposed to evaluate the code and take action as instructed by that code. I got the code I used off the elpa home page site and used a cut and paste operation to save it to a file first. cut here. (let ((buffer (url-retrieve-synchronously http://tromey.com/elpa/package-install.el;))) (save-excursion (set-buffer buffer) (goto-char (point-min)) (re-search-forward ^$ nil 'move) (eval-region (point) (point-max)) (kill-buffer (current-buffer cut here. --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Remember Microsoft didn't write Tiger 10.4 or any of its successors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1303020903210.20...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: Installation failed - again - why am I not surprised
Hi Miles, He has managed to hog the whole list, and get a lot of technical expertise for free, for days now - by displaying the attitude of a particularly badly-behaved child. What a d!ck. but it has been fascinating, in a train-wreck, troll-baiting kind of way :-) Oh absolutely! I've saved all the messages in the threads he was involved with. Priceless stuff, glad I was there to witness it. H -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAErRyQjAT+_HYC2KfT9kPd21ut8LXm63tA2LTGguMf=jyak...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: From another mail in this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00073.html Some work for you. This iGRUB failure should be repeatable. When it happens switch to console 4 with ALT-F4 and let us know what the last syslog message is. It might mention ISO9660 file system. If that was important, wouldn't the syslog be displayed automatically? It is displayed automatically. All you have to do is look at it. How am I to know about the syslog? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s01.html.en When the stick with the Debian Live LXDE ISO is booted you reach a splash screen displaying a number of options. There are four text install entries. The advice above is applicable to them. There are also four gui install entries, which may only become visible by scrolling down the screen. With them you use CTRL-ALT-F4 to get to the syslog console. It transpires you have started another thread on exactly the same topic. This is not the best of strategies, as it fragments the information available to future users. However, in your mail at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00135.html it becomes clear (to me at least; maybe others already realised this) that you are running the install from within LXDE. My original interpretation of 6 - Booted Debian-LXDE on 1-GB USB. in your first post in this thread was that you were using one of the splash screen's install methods. Anyway, from within LXDE you can press the ESCAPE key once when d-i appears and choose 'Execute a shell'. Within the shell type cat /var/log/syslog or more /var/log/syslog Now for http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/03/msg00158.html in which, if I understand you correctly, you state you have successfully installed LXDE to a USB (hard) drive using a text install from the Live splash screen. This is welcome news. It should be noted though that there is an important difference between the conditions under which your successful install took place and the failed one described in your first post. You claim The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation successfully, use the text-based installer. I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install should succeed (or fail) under the *same* conditions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302151627.GN14686@desktop
emacs elpa install failed
It turns out I wasn't in the scratch buffer when I tried the eval. I thought I was in that buffer after trying to enter it in the wrong way but that wasn't the case. Also I found el-get package and since that supports more than elpa, I installed that package and made evaluate run on it successfully. I should have had coffee before trying to do something new with emacs. --- jude jdash...@shellworld.net Remember Microsoft didn't write Tiger 10.4 or any of its successors. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.bsf.2.01.1303021029300.23...@freire1.furyyjbeyq.arg
Re: [OT] re: trolls and operating systems [was: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.]
On 03/02/2013 03:13 AM, Joe wrote: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 23:59:21 -0600 Yaro Kasear y...@marupa.net wrote: If he is a troll, then why are we still feeding him? Because we're all hoping to pick up some scraps ourselves. It's rare that even this kind of discussion produces absolutely nothing of any use to anyone. Oh, fair enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51321bea.7020...@marupa.net
Re: upgrade snafu
On 01/03/13 05:30 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: localepurge: checking for existence of /var/cache/localepurge/localelist... localepurge: checking system for new locale ... Segmentation fault E: Problem executing scripts DPkg::Post-Invoke 'if [ -x /usr/sbin/localepurge ] [ $(ps w -p $PPID | egrep -c '(remove|purge)') != 1 ]; then /usr/sbin/localepurge; else exit 0; fi' E: Sub-process returned an error code debian: /home/frank# Any ideas or should I just wait until it sorts itself out ? A segmentation fault in a program you are writing is probably a bug in your program. A segmentation fault in a program that everyone runs okay but you is probably not a software bug. Instead it must be hardware. I would start by checking the disk drive for errors. Run a SMART drive selftest. I run Smartdrive on this machine all the time - the disk is clean. I would carefully (beware and avoid the ESD zap) unsocket the ram and resocket it. I would carefully unplug and reattach every SATA cable. Hopefully that will sort things out. If not run memtest. If no answer there I would bisect the problem by splitting the ram or swapping cpus with another. I usually debug these things by swapping components until I can isolate the problem to something specific. I have suspected this for a while - I get intermittent lockups where only a hard poweroff allows me to regain control. However they are few and far between. Because the MB is so old (circa 2005) I am leaning towards replacing it and the ram..rather than spending upwards of $60 on it. Thanks for the advice. -- Cheers Frank -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51321f40.4010...@videotron.ca
Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)
On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null That's all there is to it. The formail program is used to grab the Message-ID of the incoming message. Even if it is sent To: one address and CC: another, both copies will have the same Message-ID. When the first one comes in, it stores that ID in the $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache file after first comparing the message to see if that ID has already been stored there. If not, then it stores the ID and returns a FALSE so that the second part (take out the trash) won't process. If the Message-ID already *has* been stored in the cache file, then it returns a TRUE and the second part then dumps the message into /dev/null. If it works for you then great. But this is not without problems for others. I send you mail with a job application. You accidentally delete it and request I provide it again. I enter my sent mail folder and use the bounce facility in Mutt to resend the mail. The procmail rule deletes it. At some point I may start to wonder why I never made the short-list. Be strict in what you send and generous in what you receive is still a good maxim to follow. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302160219.GQ14686@desktop
Re: Installation failed
On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:03:14 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: First off, I'm going to repeat: STOP SENDING TWO COPIES OF YOUR EMAILS. It's simply rude. Reply to the list or not at all. +1 I've not been a thread participant and yet am still getting Cc:s in my inbox from Mark Filipak while the legitimate Debian mail is going to its own folder as it should. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes The Barsoom Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302102645.5b9b99c8@wizardstower
Re: Caldav client on Debian
On Friday 01 March 2013 21:04:40 Mérof 42 wrote: I'm searching a simple client, not like evolution who need a mailbox activated. I used Evolution as a stand-alone calendar for years and never activated a mailbox. I stopped using it recently because it had acquired a bug, anyhow on my stystem. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201303021705.02697.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 00:35:35 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: David Guntner wrote: Anyway, the recipe is dirt simple. ... # Duplicate Suppression. :0Whc: $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache.lock | $FORMAIL -D 8192 $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache # Take out the Trash. :0 a: /dev/null That's all there is to it. The formail program is used to grab the Message-ID of the incoming message. Even if it is sent To: one address and CC: another, both copies will have the same Message-ID. When the first one comes in, it stores that ID in the $MAILDIR/.msgid.cache file after first comparing the message to see if that ID has already been stored there. If not, then it stores the ID and returns a FALSE so that the second part (take out the trash) won't process. If the Message-ID already *has* been stored in the cache file, then it returns a TRUE and the second part then dumps the message into /dev/null. If it works for you then great. But this is not without problems for others. I send you mail with a job application. You accidentally delete it and request I provide it again. I enter my sent mail folder and use the bounce facility in Mutt to resend the mail. The procmail rule deletes it. At some point I may start to wonder why I never made the short-list. Be strict in what you send and generous in what you receive is still a good maxim to follow. I agree. And when I'm setting up a mail *server* (which typically services the needs of multiple users, even if I'm most likely going to be the only one using it), I follow that to a reasonable degree (I do set up some fairly conservative DNSBL lookups for the worst spam offending sources). But when I (or any other person, for that matter) am setting up my personal mail handling, I'm free to be as strict on what I receive as I care to. And face it, the scenario you describe above is not one I (or a number of other people) are likely to run into all that often. Possible, sure. Probable, not as much. I can't speak for other people who use Mutt any more than you can, but I would never consider using the bounce function to resend a message that *I* sent. If I pull it out of the sent message folder, I use forward. Because bounce is typically used for resending a message that was sent *to* you, not *by* you, making it look to the end recipient (that you're bouncing it to) as though the message came from the person who sent it to you. And if you really want to clutch at straws, if I *were* the employer that you're trying to contact, chances are the E-Mail address you're using gets *lots* of mail. That above rule caps the cache file at 8K (-D 8192). Old stuff drops off as new stuff comes in. When storing Message-ID strings, 8K isn't particularly large; the odds are that by the time you resent me the message using the ill-advised (IMO) bounce function instead of forward, your original ID would probably have already fallen out. And if it's something that I (or anyone else who dislikes receiving multiple copies of a message and as such are using a rule such as the above) decided to worry about because I think I'm losing mail, I can always decrease the cache size to 4K or whatever. As with anything, use the mail processing rules which work for you. I'm clearly not the only person in the world who *really* doesn't like getting duplicate copies of mailing list replies, or I wouldn't have posted that (I only did so because someone was complaining about exactly that problem). And I, for one, am not going to give up the convenience of the above rule on the off chance that a 1-in-1000 scenario such as the one you describe might happen. :-) One thing that always amuses me about these types of discussions: Every once in a while, someone such as yourself will come along and say something along the lines of, Oh, you shouldn't do that because scenario X might possibly happen. But they never post an alternative, which accomplishes the same goal without the perceived pitfall. So, for those who think the above rule is some kind of evil incarnate because Something Bad Might Happen - if you really want to talk someone out of using such rules, provide an alternative that gives the same functionality, without causing the Something Bad That Might Happen. :-) --Dave signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[OT] facelift for kernel.org
https://www.kernel.org/ got a facelift. Looks better. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kgtdbg$9vr$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation successfully, use the text-based installer. I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install should succeed (or fail) under the *same* conditions. Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem, and in this case no one will never know or be able to reproduce it because he can't follow instructions. But we made his life happier. He will be bragging around how Linux is a chaotic system impossible to install, how Linux people is rude and incompetent and how he managed to find the problem by himself and teach the Linux kids. He did this before and will do again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a72010bc24127130f0c0a6e5c4a7996c.squir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Install failed - USB flash to USB drive [SOLVED]
On 2013/3/2 8:56 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Wait a minute Mark Filipak wrote: I successfully installed this: debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso to a USB flash in Windows with this: dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e: dd, in Windows? which version of dd for windows did you use? The latest version of 'dd' is 0.6beta3. It can be downloaded from http://www.chrysocome.net/dd As of ver 0.6beta1, it accepts 2 new switches: 'id=' and 'od='. These are input drive and output drive. The argument for these switches is the Windows drive letter and colon. For example, dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso of=e:/ -- doesn't work but dd bs=1M if=debian-live-6.0.6-amd64-lxde-desktop.iso od=e:-- does work. (where 'e:' is the USB flash's Windows device letter - note that the 'od=' switch is not documented in command-line help.) Then I booted from the USB flash and installed Debian + LXDE desktop to a USB drive. (The GRUB bootloader install failed toward the end of the installation.) Isn't the the same failure you've been reporting all along? How is this now solved? You trimmed off the end of my post, Miles. I threw away the thread so I can't give you the last 2 lines but I'll paraphrase: The GUI Debian Installer apparently is broken. I succeeded by using the text-mode Debian Installer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51323a9c.1020...@gmail.com
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 08:51:03 +, Brian wrote: The problem is in the GUI installer. To do the installation successfully, use the text-based installer. I'd not see this as being the problem, Both a text and a GUI install should succeed (or fail) under the *same* conditions. Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem, and in this case no one will never know or be able to reproduce it because he can't follow instructions. It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. I just tried it on a lark. You were too busy finding fault. During this debacle, as I stated many times, the GUI installer takes over the entire screen. I reported what the installer told me when the GRUB installer failed. I did not know how to access the syslog. You write that I can't follow instructions. I never got any instructions. We can't help you if you won't tell us what syslog says is not instructions. But we made his life happier. He will be bragging around how Linux is a chaotic system impossible to install, how Linux people is rude and incompetent and how he managed to find the problem by himself and teach the Linux kids. He did this before and will do again. Very early on, Joao Luis, you wrote that what I was trying to do was incredibly complicated and, to paraphrase, I should learn to walk before I try to run. That was not constructive advice. It's not complicated. The proof is that I succeeded. Of course, to you that just indicates what a troll I am. I must have been trolling from the git-go. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/513243c6.9050...@gmail.com
Re: fix HD order
On 28-Feb-13 16:55, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Hi, i've 4 HD's and 3 distros. When i load debian squeeze, the sdc hd is slected by grub, but the next time i load it, the sda hd is selected. It seems a randomize selecting. How can i fix this ? UID is used and settings by name don't resolve the problem. And yes, i have win7 also on a separate hd. thanks Do you always see the same grub menu when booting? It is possible that you have different grub configurations in each HD and the BIOS is choosing a different disk to boot from each time. I would try to make sure that the bios always choose the same disk when booting. If this is not possible, then all files /boot/grub/grub.cfg in each HD should be equal and use UUIDs. Also, make sure that the /etc/fstab in each distribution use UUIDs. João Luis After verification, this problem occurs after a windows cession and reboot to squeeze. Ot looks something related to drive ordering that windows is somehow changing. If all your /boot/grub/crug.cfg in all your Linux installations are equal and using UUIDs, for example search --set=root 92d5965d-87d9-4004-885b-74179cda67aa and the kernel command line is also using UUIDs, for example linux /vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=92d5965d-87d9-4004-885b-74179cda67aa ro quiet and also the fstab is using UUIDs, your setup should work always with grub installed in all MBR of all drives. Note that UUID identifiers for the root device in the kernel command line are supported only if you are using a standard initrd or initramfs. If you did all of this and the problem persists, please send attached all your 3 grub.cfg and fstab, identifying to which drive all of them belong. I've 2 squeeze distribs, a new fresh installed and the old one. The old one couldn't boot with an uid. It crashed at the boot. This seems an unrelated problem. So i reset the /etc/fstab HD version to boot it correctly. I'm now a + 20years debian user and hadn't never so many problems with it. (squeeze) Would a ubuntu choice better at now? I have no idea because I am a Debian user, but I would be very glad to know. If you try it, please come back to the list and share your experiences. Best regards, João Luis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a4323c93443289e6fd4e2db773122304.squir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Package Pre-dependencies
Hello everyone, One quick question: If package A pre-depends on package B, and package C depends on package A, does package C pre-depend on package B? In other words, is pre-depends transitive across regular dependencies? Thanks, -- rbmj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51323bc9.9070...@verizon.net
Re: Installation failed
On 2013/3/2 11:26 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:03:14 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: First off, I'm going to repeat: STOP SENDING TWO COPIES OF YOUR EMAILS. It's simply rude. Reply to the list or not at all. +1 I've not been a thread participant and yet am still getting Cc:s in my inbox from Mark Filipak while the legitimate Debian mail is going to its own folder as it should. Cybe R. Wizard Cybe, I belong to many lists. Some have been other Linux lists and some have been Mozilla lists and some have been Windows lists. This list apparently behaves rather differently. It may result from a combination of the way that lists.debian.org constructs headers and the way headers are being processed by google mail. I'm doing some investigation. - Mark. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51324b77.2010...@gmail.com
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. If this is the case, please accept my deepest apologies. Please write step by step instructions on how to reproduce this bug in the GUI installer and not in the text installer so the developers can diagnose and correct it. This is a severe bug, because the two installers are supposed to do exactly the same things. Thank you very much, João Luis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0dd02e63146c8885ef91e8265e5fbd0d.squir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Installation failed
- Original Message - From: Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com To: Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, March 1, 2013 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Installation failed [snip] I don't dare fiddle with my hard disk. It's a Dell laptop that has WinXP preinstalled without a maintenance partition and I don't have a backup CD. If the current WinXP gets trashed, I'm hosed. I got my current laptop (used) when my good-old Toshiba died. In case you're wondering, I do have a license, but Dell refuses to honor it or to send a CD, even if I pay them. The Dell laptop is top-of-the-line: Precision M90 of about 2008 vintage. Of course, I'll never buy a Dell again, not even used. I'm afraid it's install Linux on a USB thumb drive or nothing. There is one alternative, but it gets a little complicated... Mark, This is what I use to easily create bootable USB installs of Linux -- any Linux. Works great! Versions available for Linux, Windows or OSX. http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1362251351.53509.yahoomail...@web142304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com
Using VMware graphics drivers in a kvm windows guest?
Hi, I've heard that kvm windows guests have better graphics performance using the VMware drivers. I've tried to follow some instructions found on the web but can't get the install to run. Has anyone tried this, and if so how did they achieve it? Thanks, James
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On 2013/3/2 1:58 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. If this is the case, please accept my deepest apologies. Accepted, of course. And my apology for ruffling feathers. Apparently, the combination of how this list's server constructs headers and how google mail processes headers has apparently resulted in some reply strangeness from me. I'm investigating it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5132507f.4030...@gmail.com
Re: Package Pre-dependencies
Hello everyone, One quick question: If package A pre-depends on package B, and package C depends on package A, does package C pre-depend on package B? In other words, is pre-depends transitive across regular dependencies? C ==(Depends)== A ==(Pre-Depends)== B As you stated the problem, if package C does not explicitly pre-depend on package B, then in the course of installation of packages A, B and C, the package C can be unpacked even if B is not unpacked nor configured. Only A must wait until B is fully configured in order to be unpacked. Here you can find the policy for these package fields: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html So, no. C does not pre-depend on B unless it is explictly stated in its Pre-depends field. Here is an example: bash ==(Depends)== base-files ==(Pre-Depends)== awk. João Luis. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ae318c0e755bfd77449af4cfd8a4e804.squir...@nonada.if.usp.br
Re: Installation failed
On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:09:51PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Miles, I'm running the Debian installer from a Debian Live USB. I don't try to install GRUB. The Debian installer does it. I don't provide command-line switches. The Debian installer provides whatever command-line switches it deems appropriate in its call. How are the partitions mounted at the time? I'd have to ask the person who wrote the installer. I have no way of knowing the answer to these questions. The installer takes over the whole screen, so even if I knew how to make the queries you suggest, I couldn't do it. You think I'm simply being an ass. The problem is, you have not done what I need to do, so you can't provide help. So stop trying to provide help and stop blaming me. I'd like to point out, for the benefit of those on this list and those who might read this thread in the future, that Mark is attempting to install Debian from a Debian Live USB. That is a detail that escaped me until now. Note that he is not using the standard Debian ISO which can be burned to a CD or (I believe) cat'd to a USB stick. He is using Debian Live, which has the ability to run the Debian installer -- although that adds a layer of complexity that most of us on this list are probably not experienced with. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302200325.gb6...@aurora.owens.net
Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Be strict in what you send and generous in what you receive is still a good maxim to follow. I agree. And when I'm setting up a mail *server* (which typically services the needs of multiple users, even if I'm most likely going to be the only one using it), I follow that to a reasonable degree (I do set up some fairly conservative DNSBL lookups for the worst spam offending sources). But when I (or any other person, for that matter) am setting up my personal mail handling, I'm free to be as strict on what I receive as I care to. And face it, the scenario you describe above is not one I (or a number of other people) are likely to run into all that often. Possible, sure. Probable, not as much. Email deletion is final and irrecoverable. I am not prepared to delete mail based on an optional email header. You are. That's all there is to it. :) [Snip] As with anything, use the mail processing rules which work for you. I'm clearly not the only person in the world who *really* doesn't like getting duplicate copies of mailing list replies, or I wouldn't have posted that (I only did so because someone was complaining about exactly that problem). And I, for one, am not going to give up the convenience of the above rule on the off chance that a 1-in-1000 scenario such as the one you describe might happen. :-) That's fine. It's your mail. One thing that always amuses me about these types of discussions: Every once in a while, someone such as yourself will come along and say something along the lines of, Oh, you shouldn't do that because scenario X might possibly happen. But they never post an alternative, which accomplishes the same goal without the perceived pitfall. I tend to be amused when someone such as yourself expects me to solve a problem for them which can be solved by using the 'delete' key. You have the ideal solution for your needs. I have one for mine. Mine has the benefit of the judgement and decision making being made by a human being. So, for those who think the above rule is some kind of evil incarnate because Something Bad Might Happen - if you really want to talk someone out of using such rules, provide an alternative that gives the same functionality, without causing the Something Bad That Might Happen. :-) This is a straitjacket requirement which brooks no alternative view. What it says is Give me an answer formulated in my terms. Sorry, you are seeking a technical solution to a social problem. It doesn't exist. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302200410.GR14686@desktop
Re: Installation failed
On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 13:56:55 -0500 Mark Filipak markfilipak.li...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013/3/2 11:26 AM, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: On Fri, 01 Mar 2013 19:03:14 -0500 Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: First off, I'm going to repeat: STOP SENDING TWO COPIES OF YOUR EMAILS. It's simply rude. Reply to the list or not at all. +1 I've not been a thread participant and yet am still getting Cc:s in my inbox from Mark Filipak while the legitimate Debian mail is going to its own folder as it should. Cybe R. Wizard Cybe, I belong to many lists. Some have been other Linux lists and some have been Mozilla lists and some have been Windows lists. This list apparently behaves rather differently. It may result from a combination of the way that lists.debian.org constructs headers and the way headers are being processed by google mail. I'm doing some investigation. - Mark. Perhaps I've failed to make myself clear. I voluntarily subscribe to debian-user@lists.debian.org and fully expect mail from that address. When I get mail from you, personally, it is unsolicited and, therefore, spam. As such, I now ask you to stop sending mail directly to me as I do read the list. Personal mail is /NOT/ welcome. You are spaming me and, if it isn't intentional, stop it. I do not care about the whys and wherefores; I do not wish to receive personal mail from you. Take care of that problem you have of sending spam to everyone /however you may do it/ and restrict your posts to the list only. Cybe R. Wizard -- Nice computers don't go down. Larry Niven, Steven Barnes The Barsoom Project -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302142820.659637bc@wizardstower
Freedesktop Application Icon / magic database
hi, I am in the process of packaging Freeplane 1.2.x and am having problems with the icons being displayed under GNOME3 (classic, nautilus 3.4.2). Freeplane 1.2.x uses the file extension *.mm and the magic information (XML prefix) 'map version=freeplane' (which distinguishes it from freemind that also uses *.mm). [1] This works for the right-click menu and the command executed from nautilus 3.4.2 (GNOME): The freeplane icon is displayed in the right-click menu if and only if the *.mm file starts with 'map version=freeplane'. However, the icon that is configured (see next section) is not displayed (I see a blank white icon). In KDE (konqueror 4.8.4), the correct icons are displayed, but the magic information seems to be ignored (I always get a freeplane icon for *.mm). The package installs /usr/share/mime/packages/freeplane.xml (which is the basis for the other files in /usr/share/mime): - ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? mime-info xmlns=http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/shared-mime-info; mime-type type=application/x-freeplane comment xml:lang=csFreeplane Mapa/comment [...] icon name=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/freeplane.svg / glob pattern=*.mm / magic priority=66 match type=string value=lt;map version=quot;freeplane offset=0 / /magic sub-class-of type=text/plain / /mime-type /mime-info - /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/apps/freeplane.svg does exist and can be opened in eog. I also tried icon name=freeplane.svg/, icon name=freeplane/ and icon name=freeplane.png/ (by changing /usr/share/mime/packages/freeplane.xml and running update-mime-database /usr/share/mime) but see no change. 'file' does not detect the correct mime type, but I don't think this is related to my problem (since it works with KDE): $ file --mime freeplane.mm freeplane.mm: application/x-freemind; charset=us-ascii /usr/share/file/magic.mgc does not contain freeplane, only freemind. Shall I submit Freeplane magic information to http://www.darwinsys.com/file/? I read this: http://wiki.debian.org/MimeTypesSupport [1] the package is still in work, the packaging source code can be found at: https://github.com/fnatter/freeplane-debian/ Thanks and Best Regards, -- Felix Natter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87r4jx35gj@bitburger.home.felix
Re: Installation failed - and failed again...
On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 13:24:06 -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2013/3/2 12:37 PM, Joao Luis Meloni Assirati wrote: Exactly. Either it was a pertitioning problem, as pointed first by Lisi, and he does not want to admit; or some other random problem, and in this case no one will never know or be able to reproduce it because he can't follow instructions. It was not a partitioning problem or some other random problem. There's a bug This is correct. in the GUI Debian Installer packaged with LXDE desktop, ver 6.0.6. I There is no bug. You are misinterpreting the evidence. succeeded simply by running the text-based Debian Installer. No one suggested that. I just tried it on a lark. You were too busy finding fault. Your success was not a result of running the text-based Debian Installer. Forget about it. Try a bit of lateral, or even vertical, thinking. You may not realise it but substituting the USB stick you initially used for a USB hard disc is the crux of the matter. During this debacle, as I stated many times, the GUI installer takes over the entire screen. I reported what the installer told me when the GRUB installer failed. I did not know how to access the syslog. You write that I can't follow instructions. I never got any instructions. We can't help you if you won't tell us what syslog says is not instructions. Now that you mention it - what does GRUB report in the syslog when it fails to install as you described in your very first post? Be daring; give it a go again, exactly as you related there. Very early on, Joao Luis, you wrote that what I was trying to do was incredibly complicated and, to paraphrase, I should learn to walk before I try to run. That was not constructive advice. It's not complicated. The proof is that I succeeded. Of course, to you that just indicates what a troll I am. I must have been trolling from the git-go. You succeeded (which is good) because you changed the install environment. This neither proves nor disproves anything. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130302203636.GS14686@desktop
Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Sat 02 Mar 2013 at 09:20:14 -0800, David Guntner wrote: Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: And face it, the scenario you describe above is not one I (or a number of other people) are likely to run into all that often. Possible, sure. Probable, not as much. Email deletion is final and irrecoverable. I am not prepared to delete mail based on an optional email header. You are. That's all there is to it. :) Yup. :-) While the RFC does not outright *mandate* a Message-ID header, it does strongly recommend it. And face it, in this day and age, when was the last time you saw a message which did NOT contain that header? The risk of such a header not being there is so low as to be effectively nonexistent. And even if it *is* missing, then I suspect the rule I'm using would allow both copies to come through since it has nothing to compare against. So that's a pretty weak argument. As with anything, use the mail processing rules which work for you. I'm clearly not the only person in the world who *really* doesn't like getting duplicate copies of mailing list replies, or I wouldn't have posted that (I only did so because someone was complaining about exactly that problem). And I, for one, am not going to give up the convenience of the above rule on the off chance that a 1-in-1000 scenario such as the one you describe might happen. :-) That's fine. It's your mail. Actually, I did realize one thing that can be done with the rule I use to deal with someone who uses the bounce function to forward mail from their Sent folder to send it again for some reason. Mutt will insert a Resent-Message-ID header when the bounce function is used. So by adding a test to make sure that header is *not* present, it eliminates the potential accidental deletion of such a resent message. (Hey, I'm always rethinking things when a given scenario comes up, even if I consider it to be of a fairly small probability factor - makes for an interesting challenge sometimes. grin) One thing that always amuses me about these types of discussions: Every once in a while, someone such as yourself will come along and say something along the lines of, Oh, you shouldn't do that because scenario X might possibly happen. But they never post an alternative, which accomplishes the same goal without the perceived pitfall. I tend to be amused when someone such as yourself expects me to solve a problem for them which can be solved by using the 'delete' key. You have the ideal solution for your needs. I have one for mine. Mine has the benefit of the judgement and decision making being made by a human being. If *that* worried about it, it can always be directed into a folder that you (you in the general sense, not you specifically) can review at your leisure and hit the delete key to your heart's content. :-) Yes, we all have a delete key. And some of us get annoyed when we have to use it repeatedly in situations where we really shouldn't have to. The person I responded to clearly had a problem with just hitting delete, so I provided him with a solution that works. You decided to follow up by saying how you didn't like it and it can cause problems and you like to just hit delete. It's fine that you like that. He didn't, so I helped him out. At no time did I say that You Must Use My Solution. :-) So, for those who think the above rule is some kind of evil incarnate because Something Bad Might Happen - if you really want to talk someone out of using such rules, provide an alternative that gives the same functionality, without causing the Something Bad That Might Happen. :-) This is a straitjacket requirement which brooks no alternative view. It seems to me that if you think it's that bad, how about an alternative? is *soliciting* an alternative view. Simply saying, Don't do that, it's bad and I don't like it is more of a straitjacket since it provides no alternatives. What it says is Give me an answer formulated in my terms. Sorry, you are seeking a technical solution to a social problem. It doesn't exist. Actually, I am seeking no such thing. What I *am* saying, however, is that if you (again, in the general sense, not necessarily specifically you) are going to come at someone with a that solution is no good for reason X, then it's only polite to provide an alternative (or a pointer to where one might be found). Hacker's Ethic, if nothing else. :-) I've worked at places where the attitude of management was along the lines of, If you're going to come to me with a complaint about the way something is being done, provide a possible solution. Otherwise I don't want to hear from you about it. I happen to mostly agree with that philosophy. If someone is going to decide that they want to complain (for lack of a better word) about a system I use to handle a given situation, then they should also provide an alternative for consideration and explain why it's
Re: How can I know which deb-multimedia packages I have installed?
Csanyi Pal wrote: Bob Proulx writes: You can purge and re-install packages. But that may not be the same as a clean installation. It is much easier to simply create a clean chroot and install there. I created a clean chroot by running the following commands in a directory called '/debian-adatok-1/Chroot/': $ cd /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/ $ sudo debootstrap --arch amd64 wheezy . $ sudo chroot /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/ $ sudo mount -o bind /dev /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/dev/ $ sudo mount -o bind /proc /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/proc/ The bind mounts would need to happen before the chroot command. You would get errors otherwise so I assume you did that anyway. Or in a different terminal. Then I installed vuze in chroot environment by running the command: aptitude install vuze Is this an install of vuze in clean chroot? Yes! That should work nicely. If the application is an X application then very likely you will need to bind mount /home and /tmp too. sudo mount -o bind /home /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/home sudo mount -o bind /tmp /debian-adatok-1/Chroot/tmp If there is any problem opening an X window then investigate the setting of $XAUTHORITY which is sometimes mangled by window session managers. The file it points to must be available. Also the /tmp/.X11-unix/ must be available too. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Fri 01 Mar 2013 at 12:38:25 -0500, Tom H wrote: If I had a non-work-supplied-totally-locked-down Windows installation, I'd try the Ubuntu solution for Debian (that application looked like it had a drop-down menu with a list of distributions) and suggest some changes to the burn an ISO on Windows page of the Debian documentation. Something like http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/2012/08/msg00053.html ? Thanks. This edit's either queued up somewhere or been dropped. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwPiDcy0b4kSzo7nQa+_Ex1XnQS5=xptjcdunazrpn...@mail.gmail.com
Re: I wish to advocate linux --pclos from flash
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 03/01/2013 12:13 PM, Tom H wrote: [You've snipped the history of the posters...] And there is always PCLinuxOS, which was originally designed expressly to make the transition to Linux easy for Windows users. I wasn't making an exhaustive list of distributions. I just check three and found their instructions. I've just checked PCLinuxOS and there aren't any CD/DVD/Stick-creation instructions: http://www.pclinuxos.com/?page_id=10 I can only access a cached wiki page at the moment and it only has CD burning instructions. There are instructions for making a boot flash-drive here: http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php/topic,80917.0.html Thanks but these instructions are for creating an installation flash drive on Linux - and they're well hidden. So it's a fail from the perspective of the person criticizing distributions for not providing readily-available Windows instructions for creating one. Just a minute or two with Google found this: http://voices.yahoo.com/how-bootable-iso-flash-drive-7334710.html UltraISO is a Windows program to work with iso files. The program is free for enough of it to make bootable flash drives, according to the description. I haven't tried it, but you can get the UltraISO from CNet, so it should be OK. It sould appear that you could get the program, then get the iso for PCLOS, and burn the flash drive all from a laptop or notebook that has no optical drive, and then install pclos from the flash. I can't think of anything much simpler than that. The point isn't that you can find instructions via Google. (You could also install Cygwin and use its dd or compile dd on Windows or ...). The point is that distributions should have easily accessible instructions (like Fedora and Ubuntu) to create a flash installer as well as a CD installer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SyfK46=yic5unoqiustvkrmb23ufj1rvgprq2e4a-p...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Install failed - let's start again, without bogus assumptions, please.
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Shane Johnson s...@rasmussenequipment.com wrote: Only thing I can think of I think Ubuntu has one but I don't know if it's actually a installer or just lets your run the Distro live in Windows. It's called wubi [1]. I've never tried nor do I know what it actually does. [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=swaxv9iic9xeq2s0ctjkvyrtny9iefkww6wxruti+v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Installation failed
On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 03:03:25PM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: I'd like to point out, for the benefit of those on this list and those who might read this thread in the future, that Mark is attempting to install Debian from a Debian Live USB. That is a detail that escaped me until now. Boot from Live USB, tell the installer to install GRUB in /dev/sdb. Assuming he doesn't have a hard disk connected. -- Antti Talsta -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130303003236.ga1...@criss.dnsalias.org
Re: Installation failed
On 2013/3/2 3:03 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 09:09:51PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: Miles, I'm running the Debian installer from a Debian Live USB. I don't try to install GRUB. The Debian installer does it. I don't provide command-line switches. The Debian installer provides whatever command-line switches it deems appropriate in its call. How are the partitions mounted at the time? I'd have to ask the person who wrote the installer. I have no way of knowing the answer to these questions. The installer takes over the whole screen, so even if I knew how to make the queries you suggest, I couldn't do it. You think I'm simply being an ass. The problem is, you have not done what I need to do, so you can't provide help. So stop trying to provide help and stop blaming me. I'd like to point out, for the benefit of those on this list and those who might read this thread in the future, that Mark is attempting to install Debian from a Debian Live USB. That is a detail that escaped me until now. Thank you, Rob. Yes, I've written that many, many times: the Debian Live USB. Hmmm... Not that it makes any difference, but: Two different installers, eh? From a programming perspective, it would seem so obvious that they *should* be the same code, that one might easily assume that they *would* be the same code, but I guess not. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51329ae5.8010...@gmail.com
