Re: possible in lynx file download?

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas


Thank you , Wes, for the very complete and helpful explanation.

You seem to know a lot about this.
I hope you don't mind if I continue to pick your brain on this  
subject...  (-:



On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:49 PM, wes wrote:


hi rick.

But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same  
directory, I get a few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded  
file.


lines like the following?





http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/powerpc/iso-cd/MD5SUMS 
">




Yes, exactly.

As you probably figured out, I'm using the "d" command not the ""  
option to start the download.


So my next question is: Why does it do this when downloading MD5SUM,  
but *not* when downloading the ".iso" file?  Does it recognize a  
difference between the two formats (binary vs a text) and invoke a  
corresponding difference in treatment for download?


And the next-next question: The text file is not an html text file.   
This is a difference that it could also recognize, one would think.   
It seems reasonable to me that a non-html file should be treated just  
like a binary file for download purposes.  Am I missing something?






Has anybody else seen this behavior?


well, i just noticed it now, retracing your steps.


Is this a bug in Lynx?


i do not believe so.  afaict, lynx adds those lines for generally
sensible reasons, as explained here:

http://lynx.isc.org/current/lynx2-8-8/lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.html#RemoteSource



So it's a feature (hence, not a bug) when downloading html text  
files.  Is it, then, a bug when that feature gets applied  
indiscriminately to all text files, even those that don't contain html?





as mentioned there, if you really want to, you can disable this
behavior by adding

PREPEND_BASE_TO_SOURCE:FALSE

to your lynx.cfg.




I'd prefer, of course, if it automatically knew the difference and  
acted correctly in all cases.  But if that's not possible, I guess  
having a config option to disable the behavior is the next best thing.


For what it's worth, I've never known any browser other than lynx that  
behaves this way.  Is there something special about the design of lynx  
that makes this desirable?


Thanks!

Rick


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Re: Partimage: Would it be possible to add EXT4 support..?? (Wheezy x64)

2013-03-31 Thread DutchGlory
thanks for this...

but i found out that mondorestore is not copied to backup dvd.. 
i will try a more stable version of mondo...



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Re: HP NC380T Dual Port PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Card (374443-001) in Debian

2013-03-31 Thread egamess
Dear Stan,

Thank you for your reply.

No, I do not have the card for now. Just planning to buy a
dual port Gigabit PCI-e Ethernet card.


> The Intel cards are always cheaper, work out-of-the-box with the stock
> Intel drivers in Squeeze 2.6.32.  I don't know if the Broadcom chip on
> the HP NC380 is supported by the Squeeze 2.6.32 though it surely is in
> the backports 3.2.x kernel.  The other big concern is non-free firmware
> it may require, which may make it a PITA to use with Debian.

What about Intel Pro/1000 PCI-e cards???
The problem is that there are a lot of models of this card.
A cheap one that I find has reference model E-G021-04-5215 

Thank you again.

Eric.


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Re: possible in lynx file download?

2013-03-31 Thread wes

hi rick.

But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same directory, I get a 
few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded file.


lines like the following?





http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.7/powerpc/iso-cd/MD5SUMS";>




Has anybody else seen this behavior?


well, i just noticed it now, retracing your steps.


Is this a bug in Lynx?


i do not believe so.  afaict, lynx adds those lines for generally
sensible reasons, as explained here:

 
http://lynx.isc.org/current/lynx2-8-8/lynx_help/Lynx_users_guide.html#RemoteSource

as mentioned there, if you really want to, you can disable this
behavior by adding

 PREPEND_BASE_TO_SOURCE:FALSE

to your lynx.cfg.


Am I doing something wrong?


you could use wget (or any other tool designed for downloading files
in the general case, as opposed to browsing them specifically) instead
of a browser.  lynx adds those lines because they provide information
useful for *browsing*, which is probably not quite what you're doing
with the md5sums files.


I have no problem getting CD ".iso" images. (Except that it seems to
prefer IPv6, which is significantly slower for me than IPv4. Is
there a config option to change that behavior?)


there happens to be a command line option for wget that lets you do
precisely that.

 $ wget --prefer-family=IPv4 URL

also, i notce that the page at http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/
requests that one not use a web browser to download iso images, since
most browsers (unlike, eg, wget) are not designed to permit resuming
interrupted/failed downloads at the last failpoint. (see the section
"Downloading Debian CD/DVD images via HTTP/FTP" on that page for more
details.)

using wget, to resume downloading a partially-downloaded file, add the
-c option:

 $ wget -c --prefer-family=IPv4 URL

if you like, you could use lynx to navigate to the directory
containing files of interest to you, and then use wget to download
them: lynx lets you call external programs to act on either the
current page (with the EXTERN_PAGE command, possibly mapped to the `,'
key) or the current link (with the EXTERN_LINK command, possibly
mapped to the `.' key.)

lynx must be told about which programs these EXTERN_* commands provide
access to. your lynx installation may have appropriate calls to wget
already defined.

if not, adding the line...

 EXTERNAL:http:wget -b -c --prefer-family=IPv4 %s:FALSE

...to the file...

 ~/.lynx/external

...might suit your purposes.  (`wget -b' invokes wget in the
background.)

more details on telling your lynx installation about the external
helper programs you would like to call can probably be found in the
comments of your lynx.cfg.  try searching for 'xternal application'.

fyi, for lynx-specific questions, there is a mailing list for lynx:

 lynx-...@non-gnu.org

hope this helps,
wes


On Sun, 31 Mar 2013, Rick Thomas wrote:



On Macs (an apple macintosh G4, running debian squeeze) I use lynx to 
download cd-images from cdimage.debian.org.  I have no problem  getting CD 
".iso" images. (Except that it seems to prefer IPv6, which is significantly 
slower for me than IPv4. Is there a config option to change that behavior?)


But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same directory, I get a 
few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded file.


Has anybody else seen this behavior?  Am I doing something wrong?  Is this a 
bug in Lynx?


Rick


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Re: -- SPAM --Organic SEO for Debian.org

2013-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/1/13, Robert Holtzman  wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 03:08:34PM +, Mark Peterson wrote:
>> 
>snip of offensive crap..
>
> Not only does this clueless spammer post his drivel, he does it in HTML!

For those who want to be marked _up_ in the world. More gold stars and
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Re: dpkg --clear-selections seems to empty most of the packages on my system ugh

2013-03-31 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 4/1/13, Mitchell Laks  wrote:
> Hi

Gday :)

> I am setting up a server. I have done it in the past using
>
> dpkg --set-selections  apt-get dselect-upgrade
...
> dpkg --get-selections > server_install_list
>
> many years ago
> and I didn't care to limit what
> junk was there long ago when I did that.
> )
>
> Now I also got messages like
> dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 1: gpm
> but clearly there still is a packages gpm.
>
> So I googled around and found this page
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=79006
> and so I installed the
>
> dselect
> package, which seems to be a new thing.
..
> Now, I was playing around and I did
>
> dpkg --clear-selections
> then
> dpkg --set-selections  then apt-get dselect_upgrade
> took out much of my system. That was quite unpleasant.

:)   I'm sure..

> I saved the kernal :)

I'd probably have just reinstalled.

> So then to rescue myself I installed tasksel and I installed the desktop
> system again.
>
> Ok what is the approved method  to add a bunch of packages to the system
> without getting munged??

Well .. .. Step 1) as I (YMMV) would consider it, is, to _choose_ a
bunch of packages.

By using a set of system-default packages from XX years ago, it is
likely you will face the types of problems you have faced above.

In the last month or so, there has been at least one debian-user email
thread about doing a minimal install. I recommend reading that thread.
It is how many of us install servers (and some like I, install
everything, such as my laptop for example).

So, 1) minimal install.

Then 2) add packages. And here's where for you, by the sound of it,
it's been a few years, it might take a few hours of trying to run the
things you want on your server, and discovering what you have to
install to do that.

Keep that list of names of things you've installed.

Now you have _your_ personal-server-minimum-install (pretty much).

Not sure how else you're going to get there ... otherwise if you're
happy with task-sel, install ssh-server, http server, etc tasks, and
be done with it. As long as you've got a spare gig of disk, you should
be fine...

Good luck
Zenaan


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Re: Partimage: Would it be possible to add EXT4 support..?? (Wheezy x64)

2013-03-31 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

DutchGlory wrote:
OK thank you, i will try this..  



For sake of completeness, this what I have in /etc/mindi/mindi.conf:

#
# Example of mindi configuration file
#
# $Id$
#
# FORCE_MODS="crc_ccitt crc_ccitt"
#
# EXTRA_SPACE=80152 # increase if you run out of ramdisk space
# BOOT_SIZE=32768   # size of the boot disk
# MINDI_ADDITIONAL_BOOT_PARAMS="devfs=nomount noresume selinux=0 
barrier=off udevtimeout=10 acpi=off"

EXTRA_SPACE=92160
BOOT_SIZE=40960
FORCE_MODS="hid_generic hid-generic"

and this is what I have in /etc/mindi/deplist.txt:

# $Id: deplist.txt 2409 2009-09-18 13:25:35Z bruno $
#
# NB:
# 1. Directories are allowed. Their contents will be included by Mindi.
# 2. If you put 'libncurses' (w/o quotation marks) on an uncommented 
line then

#Mindi will find /lib/libncurses* and include all matching files.
# 3. You recommend that you give an absolute path name
# 4. If you want to add something, just add it on its own line. K.I.S.S.
# 5. You must _not_ put a semicolon & comment after an entry. e.g. 'foo; 
#bar'.


#- STUFF ADDED BY THE USER 


#---    list your stuff here!    
/sbin/blkid
/usr/bin/nano
#---    list your stuff here!    
#--

so that you can use blkid and nano when you boot the CD/DVD.

Hugo


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Re: possible in lynx file download?

2013-03-31 Thread Jude DaShiell
have you highlighted the md5sums file then tried hitting the (d) key?  
With lynx I notice on certain sites different behavior depending on 
whether the (d) key is used or the enter key is used to start a download.  
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013, Rick Thomas wrote:

> 
> On Macs (an apple macintosh G4, running debian squeeze) I use lynx to download
> cd-images from cdimage.debian.org.  I have no problem  getting CD ".iso"
> images. (Except that it seems to prefer IPv6, which is significantly slower
> for me than IPv4. Is there a config option to change that behavior?)
> 
> But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same directory, I get a
> few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded file.
> 
> Has anybody else seen this behavior?  Am I doing something wrong?  Is this a
> bug in Lynx?
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 

---
jude 
Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen readers?


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Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2013-03-31 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Michael Biebl  wrote:
>
> I would guess your session is not marked as active
> ck-list-sessions will tell you that.
>
> That is a problem of starting your X session via startx.
>
> My suggestion would be to use a display manager like gdm3 or lightdm.

Using a DM probably makes things simpler/smoother but using Debian's
default X setup results in:

(from ps)

/usr/bin/ck-launch-session /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
x-window-manager

and

(from ck-list-sessions)

Session1:
unix-user = '0'
realname = 'root'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = FALSE
x11-display = ''
x11-display-device = ''
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2013-03-31T23:08:23.830488Z'
login-session-id = '4294967295'
idle-since-hint = '2013-03-31T23:09:33.195468Z'

Session2:
unix-user = '0'
realname = 'root'
seat = 'Seat1'
session-type = ''
active = TRUE
x11-display = ':0'
x11-display-device = '/dev/tty7'
display-device = '/dev/tty1'
remote-host-name = ''
is-local = TRUE
on-since = '2013-03-31T23:09:05.930568Z'
login-session-id = '4294967295'


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Re: Scratchy sound with debian wheezy on ASUS A73B series

2013-03-31 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Vincent Hobeïka
wrote:

>
> $ aplay -l
>  Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
> carte 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], périphérique 0: ALC269VB Analog [ALC269VB Analog]
>   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
> carte 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
>   Sous-périphériques: 1/1
>   Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
>
>
> I am completely lost. Can anyone give me some hints regarding this please?
>

Well, good to know I'm not the only one.


Scratchy sound with debian wheezy on ASUS A73B series

2013-03-31 Thread Vincent Hobeïka
Dear debian users,

I have recently set up a debian wheezy on an ASUS A73B series.
Everything went well except that the sound is very scratchy. I can
play sound but there is an additional annoying noise, like a bad
communication on old land lines: scrrrtch scrrrtch. The higher the
volume, the higher the frequency of the scratches (and volume too). It
sounds a bit like a saturated amplifier, but not exactly. It's more
like a bad contact which would always work badly. There is a dual boot
on the computer and the sound is working perfectly well on another non
free operating system. So I suppose that the hardware is ok.

I have checked the volumes and they are not at the max. I have tried
to play with alsa settings without any improvement.
I tried adding a PCM channel in order to reduce this effect (see
.asoundrc below). I can change the volume with three channels: master,
PCM, speaker.
I have tried removing pulseaudio, alsa-base, reinstalling them one by
one... I finally installed paman and pavucontrol and played with them,
but nothing worked.

Any help or hint would be very welcome. Here is my setup:

$ aplay -l
 Liste des Périphériques Matériels PLAYBACK 
carte 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], périphérique 0: ALC269VB Analog [ALC269VB Analog]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0
carte 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], périphérique 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Sous-périphériques: 1/1
  Sous-périphérique #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -L
http://paste.debian.net/246281/

$ cat .asoundrc
pcm.!default front:SB

$ cat /proc/asound/card*/codec#0 | grep -i codec
Codec: Realtek ALC269VB
Codec: ATI R6xx HDMI

$ cat /proc/asound/modules
 0 snd_hda_intel
 1 snd_hda_intel

$ lspci -nn |grep Audio
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (rev 40)
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI
Caicos HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6400 Series] [1002:aa98]

$ lsmod | grep snd
http://paste.debian.net/246284/

$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
http://paste.debian.net/246285/

$ aptitude search "~dsound ~i"
http://paste.debian.net/246286/

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib

I am completely lost. Can anyone give me some hints regarding this please?

Best regards,

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Re: possible in lynx file download?

2013-03-31 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 03:38:32PM -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> 
> On Macs (an apple macintosh G4, running debian squeeze) I use lynx
> to download cd-images from cdimage.debian.org.  I have no problem
> getting CD ".iso" images. (Except that it seems to prefer IPv6,
> which is significantly slower for me than IPv4. Is there a config
> option to change that behavior?)
> 
> But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same directory,
> I get a few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded file.
> 
> Has anybody else seen this behavior?  Am I doing something wrong?
> Is this a bug in Lynx?

I see this behaviour in Lynx as well. elinks, however, does it as
expected. As for Lynx, if you have to use it, one workaround is to
browse to the MD5SUMS, and then use the "P" button to print it, which
allows you to save it to a file.

I have no clue about the IPV6 issue, though.

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possible in lynx file download?

2013-03-31 Thread Rick Thomas


On Macs (an apple macintosh G4, running debian squeeze) I use lynx to  
download cd-images from cdimage.debian.org.  I have no problem   
getting CD ".iso" images. (Except that it seems to prefer IPv6, which  
is significantly slower for me than IPv4. Is there a config option to  
change that behavior?)


But when I try downloading the MD5SUMS file from the same directory, I  
get a few lines of HTML pre-pended to the downloaded file.


Has anybody else seen this behavior?  Am I doing something wrong?  Is  
this a bug in Lynx?


Rick


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Re: Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2013-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
I would guess your session is not marked as active
ck-list-sessions will tell you that.

That is a problem of starting your X session via startx.
My suggestion would be to use a display manager like gdm3 or lightdm.

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dpkg --clear-selections seems to empty most of the packages on my system ugh

2013-03-31 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi

I am setting up a server. I have done it in the past using 

dpkg --set-selections  server_install_list

many years ago
and I didn't care to limit what 
junk was there long ago when I did that.
)

Now I also got messages like

dpkg: warning: package not in database at line 1: gpm

but clearly there still is a packages gpm.

So I googled around and found this page

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=79006

and so I installed the 

dselect
package, which seems to be a new thing.

Then I googled and saw that I had to do 

dselect access
dselect update
which seems to be new from old days.


 
Now, I was playing around and I did


dpkg --clear-selections

then 

dpkg --set-selections http://lists.debian.org/20130331221355.ga31...@earthlink.net



Re: Package maintenance on Debian

2013-03-31 Thread sirquijote
> On 29/03/13 23:31, sirquij...@lavabit.com wrote:
 despite the implication of the names, you may find either to be
(mostly) stable and useful, especially if old software is your only
trouble with Debian squeeze.
>>> Yeah, if it weren't for the older packages, I'd be content.
>>> How do I migrate to testing or unstable: does it require a re-install or
>>> do I just add those lists to apt-get?
>> nvm, the Debian wiki actually covers this pretty well.
>> Thanks for the help. :)
>
> Make sure you follow the install/upgrade notes carefully when upgrading
from Squeeze to Wheezy/Testing. There are some steps that have to be
done in the right order (upgrading udev and kernel, for a start), or you
will end up with an unusable system.
>
> It is certainly worth moving to Wheezy, as it will replace Squeeze as
Stable in the very near future.
>
> --
> Dom

It transpires that Netatalk hasn't reached v3 in sid yet, and the good
folks on the Netatalk mailing list tell me it's highly recommended, so I
think I'll just stick with Squeeze and compile Netatalk 3 myself.

Responses and patience much appreciated :)





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Xfce4, systemd - shutdown via builtin-dialog isn't working

2013-03-31 Thread Armin Maisch
Hi,
I just set up a new Debian installation and I've got a problem which I
think is related to user permissions:

Debian Wheezy
Initsystem: systemd
DE: Xfce4, + xfce4-goodies-package

some installed packages (just some which were recommended in threads
concerning similar problems): upower, xfce4-power-manager,
xfce4-power-manager, polkit, consolekit, upower

Xfce is started via startx after logging in on console, the .xinitrc
contains:
> exec dbus-launch ck-launch-session xfce4
(leaving out dbus-launch or ck-launch-session or both doesn't change
anything)

I don't use a login manager.

The user is in the powerdev-group, there is no other group *power*, as
well as the used user account is in the adm-group.

When I want to log off from Xfce by using the xfce-dialog I find three
buttons there: logoff (which is working as it should, reboot, which is
just grey and unclickable and the shutdown-one, which is also grey and
unclickable.

Another interesting Point is that running "systemctl poweroff" after
logging off from Xfce as a normal user is shutting of the system as it
should do without any questions, but running it in a terminal window in
the started xfce-environement asks for the root-password via a separate
dialog-window (gksu, I assume).

Maybe a problem concerning permissions, but I can be wrong.

There is no other window manager or desktop environement installed.

I would be glad if someone could help me out with that.

Thanks in advance,
A. Maisch


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DPMS Config File

2013-03-31 Thread Patrick Bartek
Been putting the final tweeks on Wheezy 64-bit, but have been unable to find 
where DPMS is initially configured and run.  I want to change the settings.  
Now I know I can use xset or put it as an Option in the Monitor section of 
xorg.conf, which as I'm running the nvidia driver I now have, but I'd rather do 
it where DPMS is initially run on boot.  Anybody know?

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Re: Partimage: Would it be possible to add EXT4 support..?? (Wheezy x64)

2013-03-31 Thread DutchGlory

OK thank you, i will try this..  

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Re: Partimage: Would it be possible to add EXT4 support..?? (Wheezy x64)

2013-03-31 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

DutchGlory wrote:

with cd/dvd...  But maybe i have to dig it to the parameters to set
mondo-archive.  
need to find a way to make mondo-archive find GRUB and add required

files/folders to cd/dvd
for successful  restore... 



Right. I use:

mondoarchive -Oi -d /sdd3/foo -T /sdd3/ -S /sdb6/ -E 
"/sdb6|/sdb1|/sda7|/sda8|/sdd3|/sysstat|/sda1|/hdb7|/hda10|/home|/usr/local|/sys/devices/pci:00" 
-s 4380m -l GRUB -g -e


All one line. Check the man page. And especially report in to the 
mondorescue site if it does not work right.


Hugo


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