05/05/13 FESTA DEBIAN

2013-04-25 Thread serotoninaeh

Ja tenim la data!!
Que farem al final?


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Re: Coonexion sans identification

2013-04-25 Thread fred
Le Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:33:47AM +0200, zulian écrivait :
 Je suis en train de re-installer totalement mon serveur,
 
 car Il m'a même donné via Skype le mot de passe wifi de ma Freebox.
 
 Il me dit utiliser une distrib spécialisée pour faire tout cela  
 www.backbox.org/ 
 
 
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 F1sxo


ah, oui, autopsy  m'a permis de voir l'étendue des modifs fait par le
hacker dans mon serveur.



 

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Re: Coonexion sans identification

2013-04-25 Thread Belaïd MOUNSI
The sluth kit (remplaçant de the coroner toolkit) te permet de faire pleins
de choses (la commande mac-robber te permet de construire une chronologie
des modifications sur ton FS)
Le 25 avr. 2013 12:29, fred zul...@free.fr a écrit :

 Le Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:33:47AM +0200, zulian écrivait :
  Je suis en train de re-installer totalement mon serveur,
 
  car Il m'a même donné via Skype le mot de passe wifi de ma Freebox.
 
  Il me dit utiliser une distrib spécialisée pour faire tout cela
 www.backbox.org/
 
 
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 ah, oui, autopsy  m'a permis de voir l'étendue des modifs fait par le
 hacker dans mon serveur.





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PEAR dir d'install

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
Salut liste,

kékun sait-il comment forcer PEAR à installer des applications
non Debian dans un directory différent (/usr/local/share/...)
de la normale (/usr/share/...)?

Les dernières fois que j'ai testé, il s'est passé 2 choses:

* PEAR a ignoré le path donné (/usr/local/share/myapp) que
  j'avais créé à cet effet; et il a installé dans /usr/share

* J'ai donc essayé dans /usr/share/myapp, il n'a pas plus écouté
  et a installé dans /usr/share.

J'ai eu beau chercher un peu partout, le leit motiv c'est que
PEAR est censé installer là où on le lui dit lorsqu'on lui 
fournit le path:(

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Re: Firefox 20.0 et plugin adobe flash jamais à jour

2013-04-25 Thread maderios

On 04/24/2013 11:12 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

On Wednesday 24 April 2013 18:12:21 maderios wrote:

On 04/24/2013 05:53 PM, Baptiste GRANDHOMME wrote:

Il me semble que sous Linux Adobe Flash n'est plus maintenu et surtout
avec Firefox, sous Windows c'est la version 11.7, si tu veux la dernière
version, il te faut Chrome.


Firefox ne fonctionnait chez moi pas de la version 12 à 19 sous Squeeze.
Impossible de le lancer. (j'ai donc gardé la n°11).
Depuis la version 20, tiens, ça remarche (quid ?).


Flash fonctionne bien avec Iceweasel/Firefox (wheezy)
flashplugin-nonfree installe le dernier flash 11.2.202.280 (dernière MAJ
sécurité)
Maderios


Avec le plugin flashplugin-nonfree et en retirant celui d'Adobe :
libflashplayer.so, le plugin s'affiche maintenant correctement.



Le paquet flashplugin-nonfree ne fait qu'installer libflashplayer.so 
depuis le site Adobe


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virtuoso

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
Salut liste,

je suis à la recherche d'une (ou plus:) bonne âme qui connaisse
bien virtuoso pour un pompage de cervelle en règle en MP.

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Re: promteur horizontal

2013-04-25 Thread nono
Le lundi 22 avril 2013 à 18:53 +0200, maderios a écrit :
 On 04/22/2013 06:14 PM, Jérôme wrote:
  Le Saturday 20 April 2013 07:30:51 nono a écrit :
  Bonjour
 
  Je souhaiterai filmer mon écran, par exemple avec XVidcap et expliquez
  via du texte les manips que j'effectue. Ainsi dans la vidéo, il y aurait
  l'explication en direct.
 
  J'ai bien peur que le sous-titrage de la video ne fonctionne pas comme ça.

Je sais effectivement que le sous-titrage ne fonctionne pas ainsi mais
peu importe. Je cherchais une manière simpliste pour un besoin
spécifique et j'ai eu une réponse satisfaisante et répondant à mes
besoins.

merci

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Re: promteur horizontal

2013-04-25 Thread maderios

On 04/25/2013 09:59 PM, nono wrote:

Le lundi 22 avril 2013 à 18:53 +0200, maderios a écrit :

On 04/22/2013 06:14 PM, Jérôme wrote:

Le Saturday 20 April 2013 07:30:51 nono a écrit :

Bonjour



Je souhaiterai filmer mon écran, par exemple avec XVidcap et expliquez
via du texte les manips que j'effectue. Ainsi dans la vidéo, il y aurait
l'explication en direct.


J'ai bien peur que le sous-titrage de la video ne fonctionne pas comme ça.


Je sais effectivement que le sous-titrage ne fonctionne pas ainsi mais
peu importe. Je cherchais une manière simpliste pour un besoin
spécifique et j'ai eu une réponse satisfaisante et répondant à mes
besoins.

merci

nono


Bonjour
J'ai peut-être raté une étape mais ce serait sympa  quand on a une 
réponse satisfaisante d'en faire part sur cette liste.


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Re: Firefox 20.0 et plugin adobe flash jamais à jour

2013-04-25 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 25 April 2013 19:06:07 maderios wrote:
 On 04/24/2013 11:12 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
  On Wednesday 24 April 2013 18:12:21 maderios wrote:
  On 04/24/2013 05:53 PM, Baptiste GRANDHOMME wrote:
  Il me semble que sous Linux Adobe Flash n'est plus maintenu et surtout
  avec Firefox, sous Windows c'est la version 11.7, si tu veux la
  dernière version, il te faut Chrome.

  Firefox ne fonctionnait chez moi pas de la version 12 à 19 sous Squeeze.
  Impossible de le lancer. (j'ai donc gardé la n°11).
  Depuis la version 20, tiens, ça remarche (quid ?).

  Flash fonctionne bien avec Iceweasel/Firefox (wheezy)
  flashplugin-nonfree installe le dernier flash 11.2.202.280 (dernière MAJ
  sécurité)
  Maderios
 
  Avec le plugin flashplugin-nonfree et en retirant celui d'Adobe :
  libflashplayer.so, le plugin s'affiche maintenant correctement.

 Le paquet flashplugin-nonfree ne fait qu'installer libflashplayer.so
 depuis le site Adobe :

Alors comment se fait-il que le plugin flash Adobe s'affiche correctement 
maintenant ?

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Re: Firefox 20.0 et plugin adobe flash jamais à jour

2013-04-25 Thread maderios

On 04/25/2013 10:28 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

On Thursday 25 April 2013 19:06:07 maderios wrote:

On 04/24/2013 11:12 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:

On Wednesday 24 April 2013 18:12:21 maderios wrote:

On 04/24/2013 05:53 PM, Baptiste GRANDHOMME wrote:

Il me semble que sous Linux Adobe Flash n'est plus maintenu et surtout
avec Firefox, sous Windows c'est la version 11.7, si tu veux la
dernière version, il te faut Chrome.



Firefox ne fonctionnait chez moi pas de la version 12 à 19 sous Squeeze.
Impossible de le lancer. (j'ai donc gardé la n°11).
Depuis la version 20, tiens, ça remarche (quid ?).



Flash fonctionne bien avec Iceweasel/Firefox (wheezy)
flashplugin-nonfree installe le dernier flash 11.2.202.280 (dernière MAJ
sécurité)
Maderios


Avec le plugin flashplugin-nonfree et en retirant celui d'Adobe :
libflashplayer.so, le plugin s'affiche maintenant correctement.


Le paquet flashplugin-nonfree ne fait qu'installer libflashplayer.so
depuis le site Adobe :


Alors comment se fait-il que le plugin flash Adobe s'affiche correctement
maintenant ?


Il était peut-être mal installé ? Pas clair

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Re: promteur horizontal

2013-04-25 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le jeudi 25 avril 2013 à 22:24:59, maderios a écrit :
[…]
 Bonjour

’nuit,

 J'ai peut-être raté une étape mais ce serait sympa  quand on
 a une réponse satisfaisante d'en faire part sur cette
 liste.

Hum :
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-french/2013/04/msg00371.html

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Re: Firefox 20.0 et plugin adobe flash jamais à jour

2013-04-25 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le jeudi 25 avril 2013 à 22:46:24, maderios a écrit :
[…]
  Avec le plugin flashplugin-nonfree et en retirant celui
  d'Adobe : libflashplayer.so, le plugin s'affiche
  maintenant correctement.
  
  Le paquet flashplugin-nonfree ne fait qu'installer
  libflashplayer.so
  
  depuis le site Adobe :
  Alors comment se fait-il que le plugin flash Adobe
  s'affiche correctement maintenant ?
 
 Il était peut-être mal installé ? Pas clair

  Le paquet installe le plugin en global (/usr/…). C’est peut-
être en local (~/.…) que la mauvaise version se trouvait…

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Re: Firefox 20.0 et plugin adobe flash jamais à jour

2013-04-25 Thread andre_debian
On Thursday 25 April 2013 22:46:24 maderios wrote:

  Alors comment se fait-il que le plugin flash Adobe s'affiche 
  correctement maintenant ?

 Il était peut-être mal installé ? Pas clair
 Maderios

Oui car apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
doit installer le package Flash au bon endroit.

Sans doute le package flash .tar.gz téléchargé sur Adobe
n'était pas dépacté au bon endroit ...
(je l'ai fait sur mon /home/user et il y a créé un répertoire usr).

Le principal c'est que ça marche maintenant.

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Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
Salut liste,

je cherche un remplaçant gratuit à dyndns puisque je viens de
recevoir une notification disant qu'à partir de maintenant et
jusqu'à désormais, il est nécessaire de se connecter manuellement
à son compte pour pouvoir le conserver (ou comment virer ses
utilisateurs en douceur:(

Toutes les machines concernée tournent uniquement sous Linux, 
mais à toutes fins utiles, si le bousin fait aussi w$, c'est
mieux (on ne sait jamais).

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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com writes:

 je cherche un remplaçant gratuit à dyndns puisque je viens de
 recevoir une notification disant qu'à partir de maintenant et
 jusqu'à désormais, il est nécessaire de se connecter manuellement
 à son compte pour pouvoir le conserver (ou comment virer ses
 utilisateurs en douceur:(

Ah bon ? Zut ! Et est-ce que ça revient à se connecter manuellement si
c'est le script qui met à jour l'IP qui se connecte ?
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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Sebastien Badia
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:50:04PM (+0200), Bzzz wrote:
 Salut liste,

 je cherche un remplaçant gratuit à dyndns puisque je viens de
 recevoir une notification disant qu'à partir de maintenant et
 jusqu'à désormais, il est nécessaire de se connecter manuellement
 à son compte pour pouvoir le conserver (ou comment virer ses
 utilisateurs en douceur:(

 Toutes les machines concernée tournent uniquement sous Linux,
 mais à toutes fins utiles, si le bousin fait aussi w$, c'est
 mieux (on ne sait jamais).

Salut,

Tu peux regarder du coté de no-ip http://www.noip.com/

Sinon, en payant (le prix d'un nom de domaine), OVH fait
du DynHost http://guides.ovh.com/DynDns

Les deux fonctionnent sans soucis avec dyndns (le paquet)
ou ddclient.

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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:13:30 +0200
raphael.poite...@gmail.com (Raphaël POITEVIN) wrote:

 Ah bon ? Zut !

Non, pas zut, merde.

 Et est-ce que ça revient à se connecter manuellement
 si c'est le script qui met à jour l'IP qui se connecte ?

Non, ils spécifient stricto senso que si tu ne te connectes
pas _manuellement_ une fois par mois, la connexion auto
de ta box ne te sauvera pas de l'éviction (prétexte affiché:
éliminer les comptes non réellement actifs de leur DB).

Donc, autant dire que c'est mort:((

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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:07:32 +0200
Sebastien Badia s...@sebian.fr wrote:

 Tu peux regarder du coté de no-ip http://www.noip.com/

Hmm, nan, parce qu'il y a 2 ans, no-ip permettait 5 accès:
http://dnslookup.me/dynamic-dns/
2 ans plus tard c'est 3, ergo, dans 2 ans yenaurapu (et je
l'aurais dans le …)

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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Guy Roussin

Installes inadyn ...
Guy
Le 26/04/2013 00:24, Bzzz a écrit :

On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 00:13:30 +0200
raphael.poite...@gmail.com (Raphaël POITEVIN) wrote:


Ah bon ? Zut !

Non, pas zut, merde.


Et est-ce que ça revient à se connecter manuellement
si c'est le script qui met à jour l'IP qui se connecte ?

Non, ils spécifient stricto senso que si tu ne te connectes
pas _manuellement_ une fois par mois, la connexion auto
de ta box ne te sauvera pas de l'éviction (prétexte affiché:
éliminer les comptes non réellement actifs de leur DB).

Donc, autant dire que c'est mort:((



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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com writes:

 Non, pas zut, merde.

J'ai pas osé ! :)

 Non, ils spécifient stricto senso que si tu ne te connectes
 pas _manuellement_ une fois par mois, la connexion auto
 de ta box ne te sauvera pas de l'éviction (prétexte affiché:
 éliminer les comptes non réellement actifs de leur DB).

Oui mais là je parle du script perl.

 Donc, autant dire que c'est mort:((

Hmm, ça serait dommage.
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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 02:25:58 +0200
raphael.poite...@gmail.com (Raphaël POITEVIN) wrote:

 Oui mais là je parle du script perl.

Ban autant que je saches, le script en question ne sert
qu'à l'update de l'adresse IP chez dyndns; donc ça ne
marche pas puisqu'il _faut_ se connecter manuellement.

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Re: Remplaçant à dyndns

2013-04-25 Thread Bzzz
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 23:50:04 +0200
Bzzz lazyvi...@gmx.com wrote:

Bon, résultat des courses: 30s pour une inscription sur afraid.org,
30s de lecture de docs, 1'30 d'installation  paramétrage d'inadyn,
et mainnant çakamaché biiien.

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gnome-settings-daemon refuse de se lancer

2013-04-25 Thread nicolas patrois
Bonjour,

Hier, j´ai fait le cake avec /etc/passwd (enfin, je pense que le
problème vient de là), j´ai réparé des choses avec pwck mais
visiblement, ça n´a pas suffit pour gnome-settings-daemon.
Ça empêche pas mal d´applications de se lancer, comme gdm3 ou
gnome-settings-daemon (probablement le premier parce que le deuxième).
Voici le message d´erreur :
 gnome-settings-daemon

(gnome-settings-daemon:12020): libupower-glib-WARNING **: Couldn't
connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket
/var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Permission non accordée
Erreur de segmentation

strace gnome-settings-daemon plante X, la souris bouge mais c´est
tout. Quand je tue strace, tout remarche.
Voici la fin :

poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
recv(3, 
\1\0009\0\0\0\0\0\305\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0...,
4096, 0) = 96
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
writev(3, [{\3\37\2\0\224\2\0\0\16\10\2\0\224\2\0\0, 16}, {NULL, 0},
{, 0}], 3) = 16
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])
recv(3, \1\0\0\3\0\0\0!\0\0\0\1\0\1\1\377\377\377\377\0\0\0\0\0\1\2\0
\0\0\0..., 4096, 0) = 76
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recv(3, 0x831c748, 4096, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLOUT}])
writev(3, [{\2\37\4\0\224\2\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\2\0$\4\1\0\27\2\2\0\305\1\0\0,
28}, {NULL, 0}, {, 0}], 3) = 28
poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=3, revents=POLLIN}])

Est-ce que quelqu´un peut poster ses /etc/passwd et /etc/group pour
comparer avec les miens ?

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Re: Rsyslog envio remoto de logs a otro servidor en caso de caida

2013-04-25 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez
El abr 24, 2013 3:36 p.m., Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:53:06 +0200, maykel escribió:

  Muy buenas a todos, al final seguí el consejo de mandar los logs
  remotamente. Me funciona muy bien la verdad, inclusive con filtros y
  todo, en el servidor remoto. Mi pregunta es, en caso de caída de ése
  servidor remoto de logs donde se mandan logs, se están escribiendo
  (porque así lo he configurado) para que también se guarden en el disco
  duro local de cada máquina. Mi pregunta es, en caso de caída del
  servidor remoto de logs 192.168.1.33, se podría mandar y sólo en caso de
  caída, a otro servidor rsyslog??

 (...)

 (ejem...)

 http://wiki.rsyslog.com/index.php/FailoverSyslogServer

 Palabra clave: rsyslog failover ;-)

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Saludos.


Re: Duda con logrotate

2013-04-25 Thread Maykel Franco Hernandez
El abr 23, 2013 2:07 p.m., fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com
escribió:

 El día 23 de abril de 2013 13:56,  may...@maykel.sytes.net escribió:
  El 2013-04-23 13:48, fernando sainz escribió:
 
  2013/4/23  may...@maykel.sytes.net:
 
  El 2013-04-23 12:23, fernando sainz escribió:
 
  El día 23 de abril de 2013 12:02, fernando sainz
  fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 
  El día 23 de abril de 2013 11:40,  may...@maykel.sytes.net
escribió:
 
 
  El 2013-04-23 11:27, fernando sainz escribió:
 
  2013/4/23  may...@maykel.sytes.net:
 
 
 
  Hola muy buenas, tengo configurado logrotate para que vaya
rotando
  los
  logs
  de apache. Mi problema es que me gustaría que comprimira también
el
  archivo
  access.log.1. He mirado un poco su man y ejemplos, y he
modificado a
  /etc/logrotate.d/apache2 la linea delaycompress por
nodelaycompress,
  de
  esta
  forma no se retrasa la compresión para la siguiente rotación pero
  aún
  así,
  lo he lanzado manualmente(ya que es cron quien lo lanza):
 
  logrotate --debug --force /etc/logrotate.d/apache2
 
 
  No entiendo muy bien el porqué de que quieras hacer eso, ¿es por
  falta
  de espacio?
  Pues cambia el numero de copias que guarda:
  rotate 52
  y pon alguna menos.
 
  S2.
 
 
 
 
 
  Gracias por contestar. No es que sea problema de espacio,
simplemente
  quiero
  que zipee directamente el primer log rotado a .log.1. Son grandes y
  quiero
  zipearlos.
 
  Con esta linea en postrotate, me soluciona el apaño:
 
  gzip *.log.1
 
  Saludos y gracias.
 
 
 
  Supongo que habrás mirado las opciones:
  delaycompress
  nodelaycompress
 
 
 delaycompress
Postpone compression of the previous log file to the
next
  rota‐
tion  cycle.  This only has effect when used in
  combination
  with
compress.  It can be used when some program cannot  be
  told
  to
close  its logfile and thus might continue writing to
the
  previ‐
ous log file for some time.
 
 nodelaycompress
Do not postpone compression of the previous log file
to
  the
  next
rotation cycle (this overrides the delaycompress
option).
 
 
 
 
  Pero ojo, si en el logrotate de apache han puesto el delaycompress
es
  por que tal vez lo necesita.
 
  S2.
 
 
 
  Buscando un poco encontré esto:
 
 
 
 
 
http://articles.slicehost.com/2010/6/30/understanding-logrotate-on-debian-part-1
 
  delaycompress
 
  This command can be useful if you want the archived logs to be
  compressed, but not right away. With delaycompress active an
  archived log won't be compressed until the next time the log is
  rotated. This can be important when you have a program that might
  still write to its old logfile for a time after a fresh one is
rotated
  in. Note that delaycompress only works if you also have compress
  in your config.
 
  An example of a good time to use delaycompress would be when
logrotate
  is told to restart apache with the graceful or reload directive.
  Since old apache processes would not be killed until their
connections
  are finished, they could potentially try to log more items to the old
  file for some time after the restart. Delaying the compression
ensures
  that you won't lose those extra log entries when the logs are
rotated.
 
  Como ves, parece que es necesario y que si comprimieras el fichero
  podrías perder información.
 
  S2.
 
 
 
 
  Gracias por contestar. Estoy de acuerdo, es necesario pero metiéndolo
  después de la ejecución de postrotate no debería dar problemas, para
eso
  está el postrotate, una vez que ha acabado...zipea:
 
  postrotate
  /etc/rc.d/init.d/httpd closelogs  /dev/null 21 || :
  gzip *.log.1
  endscript
 
 
  Saludos.
 
 
 
 
  No he profundizado mucho en el proceso, en mi caso el postrotate que
  tiene la configuración del logrotate es otra:
 
 postrotate
  /etc/init.d/apache2 reload  /dev/null
 
  En el caso de que el script de init.d solo mandara una señal a los
  procesos, que no se lo que hace, estos podrían tardar en parar y
  perderías logs.
 
  S2.
 
 
 
  Lo he probado metiendo tráfico y no he perdido ni un sólo logs. Porque
  cuando va a zipear el *.log.1 , ya ha acabado de realizar las
rotaciones. Es
  decir, cuando está zipeando, ya están entrando las peticiones a
access.log
  por ejemplo o error.log.
 
 
  Saludos.
 
 

 Probablemente solo se pierdan cosas en situaciones extremas, un apache
 con muchos procesos en paralelo, una máquina con accesos a disco muy
 saturados, o cosas así.
 Cuando los desarrolladores lo hacen será porque en algún caso es
 posible. Si a ti eso no te importa, pues no pasa nada.
 Como te dije antes, si no es por problemas de espacio no lo veo mas
 que como un ejercicio de estos que uno hace cuando se aburre... :-)

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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread fernando sainz
El día 25 de abril de 2013 03:10, Sergio Bessopeanetto
sbes...@myopera.com escribió:
 Estimados/as:
 ¿Alguien que use el chat de Facebook con Pidgin o Kopete está experimentando
 problemas?
 Mi Pidgin y Kopete en Debian Wheezy desde hace un par de días no muestra los
 conectados
 en la lista de amigos de Facebook. Sin embargo está conectado. Entro a la
 página de FB y
 veo que ahí están y se ven quienes están conectados. Mientras que en el
 mensajero
 multiprotocolo no se ven. Los demás protocolos tales como el de MSN y Jabber
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 Gracias y saludos

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Hace tiempo usaba el plugin de fb en Pidgin y no veía los que salen
conectados desde el móvil.

Creo que el plugin pidgin-facebookchat salió de Debian (wheezy).

S2.


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Re: No puedo agregar usuarios en el squid en Debian 6

2013-04-25 Thread francisco cid
El 24 de abril de 2013 19:02, Santiago José López Borrazás 
sjlop...@gmail.com escribió:

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  Pero es que no se habla de Debian Wheezy, sino de Debian Squeeze
  (Debian 6) ;)

 No es igual, mira esto: http://sjlopezb.eu/15HXVgR

 He mirado apache-utils, no está. Está este que he mencionado. ;-)



el amigo a consultado por la solución en debian 6
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/apache2-utils
no era necesario enredarlo con los paquetes de wheezy

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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

El 25/04/13 04:12, fernando sainz escribió:

El día 25 de abril de 2013 03:10, Sergio Bessopeanetto
sbes...@myopera.com escribió:

Estimados/as:
¿Alguien que use el chat de Facebook con Pidgin o Kopete está experimentando
problemas?
Mi Pidgin y Kopete en Debian Wheezy desde hace un par de días no muestra los
conectados
en la lista de amigos de Facebook. Sin embargo está conectado. Entro a la
página de FB y
veo que ahí están y se ven quienes están conectados. Mientras que en el
mensajero
multiprotocolo no se ven. Los demás protocolos tales como el de MSN y Jabber
funcionan bien.

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Hace tiempo usaba el plugin de fb en Pidgin y no veía los que salen
conectados desde el móvil.

Creo que el plugin pidgin-facebookchat salió de Debian (wheezy).

S2.


En mi caso, nada de plugins. Configuré la cuenta como un protocolo XMPP 
y nunca tuve problemas
pero deben estar haciendo alguna de las suyas los muchachos/as de 
Facebook porque ahora no se

ven los contactos conectados. Bueno, era solo una inquietud. Gracias

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Re: Duda a la hora de hacer una donación económica al proyecto Debian

2013-04-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:22:21 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió:

 El 24/04/13 19:43, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Si has pagado con tarjeta de crédito/débito es normal que te pidan esos
 datos por seguridad, pero la información personal no la almacenará
 Debian sino la empresa que gestiona el TPV.

 Si, la donación la hice a través de tarjeta de débito. :)
 
 ¿Entonces el equipo Debian no sabe quién ha hecho la donación? Me
 explico, no me preocupa que sepan mis datos, es curiosidad.

Pues no, no deberían tener ningún dato tuyo: para ellos la donación es 
anónima, al menos si se efectúa con el sistema de pago Click  Pledge.

De hecho, al hacer un pago puedes consultar las condiciones:

(...) Click  Pledge will process your information on behalf of Software 
in the Public Interest, Inc. Click  Pledge neither shares, nor sells 
information to any third party organization.  Please be advised, Click  
Pledge does not store your credit card information. For a detailed review 
of our privacy statement, visit our website and click on the TRUSTe 
approved Privacy Statement.

Más info:

http://www.clickandpledge.com/privacy/

 Es como si mañana pienso: Voy a donar 10.000 euros, pero quiero que sea
 anónimo, que no relacionen a quien corresponde esa generosidad :)

Si usas el mismo sistema de pago con tarjeta de crédito/débito y admite 
esa cantidad, entiendo que se aplican las mismas condiciones :-)

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Re: No puedo agregar usuarios en el squid en Debian 6

2013-04-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:41 -0500, luis escribió:

 Me sucede esto con el squid, trato de agregar un usuario y me da este
 problema:
 
 root@pc1:/home/luis# htpasswd /etc/squid/pcuser/id anita 
 bash: htpasswd: no se encontró la orden 
 root@pc1:/home/luis
 
 me pueden dar una mano ...

Hum... ¿de verdad no imaginas/intuyes lo que pueda estar pasando?

Analicemos. 

A) Estás como usurio root luego no se trata de un problema de permisos.

B) Te dice que no encuentra la orden, que traducido al español quiere 
decir que no encuentra el binario.

C) Si no encuentra el binario cabe la remota posibilidad de que realmente 
no esté instalado ese binario (lo compruebas con whereis htpasswd).

D) Si no está instalado el binario habrá que instalarlo, aunque esto es sólo 
una idea loca.

E) Para encontrar qué paquete contiene un programa/binario puedes usar el 
buscador web:

http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=squeezearch=anysearchon=contentskeywords=htpasswd

Que te dice que que ese binario lo proporcionan dos paquetes (apache2-utils y 
mini-httpd, por lo que puedes elegir el que mejor te venga.

Alternativamente, puedes usar apt-file en lugar del buscado web.

F) Tras instalar el paquete, puedes volver a ejecutar el comando. Y rezar.

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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:54:32 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

 El 25/04/13 04:12, fernando sainz escribió:
 El día 25 de abril de 2013 03:10, Sergio Bessopeanetto
 sbes...@myopera.com escribió:

 ¿Alguien que use el chat de Facebook con Pidgin o Kopete está
 experimentando problemas?

(...)

 Hace tiempo usaba el plugin de fb en Pidgin y no veía los que salen
 conectados desde el móvil.

 Creo que el plugin pidgin-facebookchat salió de Debian (wheezy).

 En mi caso, nada de plugins. Configuré la cuenta como un protocolo XMPP
 y nunca tuve problemas
 pero deben estar haciendo alguna de las suyas los muchachos/as de
 Facebook porque ahora no se
 ven los contactos conectados. Bueno, era solo una inquietud. Gracias

Cuando el mismo error se reproduce en dos clientes IM distintos, suele 
indicar una de estas dos cosas:

1/ Un error en los servidores del servicio que quieras usar (fallo de 
red, cambio en los servidores, etc...)

2/ Un error en la parte del cliente (ISP, fallo temporal de conectividad, 
cambios en la configuración, etc...).

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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread Daniel Echeverry
Hola Lista

El 25 de abril de 2013 08:40, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:54:32 -0300, Sergio Bessopeanetto escribió:

  El 25/04/13 04:12, fernando sainz escribió:
  El día 25 de abril de 2013 03:10, Sergio Bessopeanetto
  sbes...@myopera.com escribió:

  ¿Alguien que use el chat de Facebook con Pidgin o Kopete está
  experimentando problemas?


Actualmente uso pidgin para conectarme al chat del facebook, y funciona sin
problema. mi version actual es Pidgin 2.10.6 (libpurple 2.10.6)

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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:12:17 +0200
fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

Supongo que han cambiado algo los developer de facebook por que pidgin con su 
xmpp no sincroniza bien

los contactos online.


Yo creería que es mas para reportar el fallo en la web oficial del proyecto 
facebook.

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[OT-Noticia] Cliente IMAP ligero

2013-04-25 Thread Camaleón
Hola,

A través de Linux Magazine¹ me entero de la existencia de un cliente de 
correo IMAP basado íntegramente en Qt4 (y por ende indicado especialmente 
para los KDEeros) del que me ha llamado la atención su soporte para HTML -
o de eso presume sobre el papel- lo cual es algo que no es fácil 
encontrar hoy en día salvo en Thunderbird y Evolution (hay que 
fastidiarse, por cierto...).

Se llama Trojitá (curioso nombre y curioso que se acentúe, ¿alguien 
adivina el idioma?), y está disponible en el Build Service de openSUSE, 
y ya que estamos ¿alguien ha probado este constructor de paquetes? ¿qué 
ventajas tiene? Leía buenas críticas de él en mi época susera pero 
la verdad es que no lo usé nunca.

¹http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Trojita-a-Lightweight-IMAP-Email-Client

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Re: [OT-Noticia] Cliente IMAP ligero

2013-04-25 Thread francisco cid
El 25 de abril de 2013 13:07, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola,

 A través de Linux Magazine¹ me entero de la existencia de un cliente de
 correo IMAP basado íntegramente en Qt4 (y por ende indicado especialmente
 para los KDEeros) del que me ha llamado la atención su soporte para HTML -
 o de eso presume sobre el papel- lo cual es algo que no es fácil
 encontrar hoy en día salvo en Thunderbird y Evolution (hay que
 fastidiarse, por cierto...).

 Se llama Trojitá (curioso nombre y curioso que se acentúe, ¿alguien
 adivina el idioma?), y está disponible en el Build Service de openSUSE,
 y ya que estamos ¿alguien ha probado este constructor de paquetes? ¿qué
 ventajas tiene? Leía buenas críticas de él en mi época susera pero
 la verdad es que no lo usé nunca.

 ¹
 http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Trojita-a-Lightweight-IMAP-Email-Client

 Saludos,

 --
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hola, me parece que tiene muy buena pinta este cliente, y creo que viene de
la mano con este proyecto
http://www.muylinux.com/2013/04/22/ya-puedes-probar-klyde-el-kde-ultraligero/


en cuanto tenga tiempo los compilo y les cuento que tal va.
saludos!

(creo que el idioma es checo)


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Problema con Logrotate.

2013-04-25 Thread Juan García
Hola a todos,

Tengo configurado un fichero para realizar la rotación de logs de un
determinado demonio.

El fichero en cuestión es /etc/logrotate.d/prueba y su contenido es el
siguiente:

/var/log/prueba.log {
  missingok
  rotate 7
  daily
  create 0640 root root
}

Cuando arranco la aplicación, empieza a reportar el log en el fichero
/var/log/prueba.log sin problemas.

El tema está en que si hago un logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/pruebas, me
rota perfectamente /var/log/prueba.log a /var/log/prueba.log.1 y me crea
el nuevo /var/log/prueba.log, pero en vez de seguir reportando el log en
este último fichero, me sigue reportando en el anterior renombrado, es
decir, /var/log/prueba.log.1 y el que crea nuevo /var/log/prueba.log lo
deja vacío.

¿Me falta algún parámetro en el fichero del logrotate para que una vez
creado el nuevo fichero (prueba.log ) siga reportando en ese y no en el
anterior (prueba.log.1)?


Saludos y gracias,

Ramsés


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Re: Problema con Logrotate.

2013-04-25 Thread fernando sainz
El día 25 de abril de 2013 21:49, Juan García j...@multico.es escribió:
 Hola a todos,

 Tengo configurado un fichero para realizar la rotación de logs de un
 determinado demonio.

 El fichero en cuestión es /etc/logrotate.d/prueba y su contenido es el
 siguiente:

 /var/log/prueba.log {
   missingok
   rotate 7
   daily
   create 0640 root root
 }

 Cuando arranco la aplicación, empieza a reportar el log en el fichero
 /var/log/prueba.log sin problemas.

 El tema está en que si hago un logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/pruebas, me
 rota perfectamente /var/log/prueba.log a /var/log/prueba.log.1 y me crea
 el nuevo /var/log/prueba.log, pero en vez de seguir reportando el log en
 este último fichero, me sigue reportando en el anterior renombrado, es
 decir, /var/log/prueba.log.1 y el que crea nuevo /var/log/prueba.log lo
 deja vacío.

 ¿Me falta algún parámetro en el fichero del logrotate para que una vez
 creado el nuevo fichero (prueba.log ) siga reportando en ese y no en el
 anterior (prueba.log.1)?


 Saludos y gracias,

 Ramsés


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Mira el man de logrotate y logrotate.conf

El problema es que tu proceso no cierra el fichero y aunque se
renombre el fichero el descriptor del fichero sigue apuntando a ese
fichero aunque tenga distinto nombre.
Los programas no deberían mantener abiertos los ficheros más tiempo de
lo necesario.

Algunos procesos es necesario pararlos y arrancarlos de nuevo en el
postrotate de la configuración. Mira los que ya tengas en tu sistema,
el de apache2 por ejemplo.

S2.


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Re: Problema con Logrotate.

2013-04-25 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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El 25/04/13 21:49, Juan García escribió:
(...)
 ¿Me falta algún parámetro en el fichero del logrotate para que una vez 
 creado el nuevo fichero (prueba.log ) siga reportando en ese y no en
 el anterior (prueba.log.1)?

Si miras un poco los demás ficheros, te falta el endscript y el notifempty

Aparte de esto, el compress

Es decir, como sigue:

/var/log/prueba.log {
  missingok
  rotate 7
  compress
  daily
  notifempty
  create 0640 root root
}

Normalmente y después de lo que hagas, pero mejor que esté el rotate mucho
antes que todas esas líneas. Es decir:

/var/log/prueba.log {
  rotate 7
  missingok
  compress
  daily
  notifempty
  create 0640 root root
}

¡Pruébalo y me dirás!

- -- 
Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás.
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Re: Problema con Logrotate.

2013-04-25 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
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El 25/04/13 22:23, fernando sainz escribió:
(...)
 Algunos procesos es necesario pararlos y arrancarlos de nuevo en el 
 postrotate de la configuración. Mira los que ya tengas en tu sistema, 
 el de apache2 por ejemplo.

Claro, con que ponga también con una línea como esta, por ejemplo:

test ! -e /var/run/pruebas.pid || test ! -x /usr/sbin/pruebas

Y que pruebe...o al menos, es lo que hacen algunos procesos de validación
de reinicio, por ejemplo... O con el 'invoke', que también se hace (se ve
en cups, por ejemplo), y se le da un tiempo como a segundos, por ejemplo,
un 'sleep 5' para dar más tiempo a tener en cuenta el vaciado del fichero
de proceso y demás antes del logrotate.

- -- 
Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás.
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Re: OT: Pidgin y Kopete no muestran conectados del Chat de Facebook

2013-04-25 Thread Sergio Bessopeanetto

El 25/04/13 11:19, Fabián Bonetti escribió:

On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 09:12:17 +0200
fernando sainz fernandojose.sa...@gmail.com wrote:

Supongo que han cambiado algo los developer de facebook por que pidgin con su 
xmpp no sincroniza bien

los contactos online.


Yo creería que es mas para reportar el fallo en la web oficial del proyecto 
facebook.

Saludos


Bueno parece que ya lo han reportado
https://developers.facebook.com/bugs/594997950512815
Lo bueno es que no depende de Debian.

Saludos

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[OFF-TOPIC] Compatibilidade Placa Mãe

2013-04-25 Thread Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz
Saudações,
gostaria de saber se alguém aqui na lista tem alguma dessas placas:
GA-990FXA-UD3 [1] / GA-990FXA-UD5 [2] / GA-990FXA-UD7 [3]

Pois estou pensando em adquiri-la e não sei qual será a compatibilidade de
drivers para linux. Achei alguns relatos sobre ela, tem lugar que diz que
funciona outros dizem que não. Caso alguém possa me ajudar agradeço.

1 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894#ov
2 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#ov
3 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3880#ov

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Dúvida no uso do Debian LTSP

2013-04-25 Thread Listeiro 037

Bom dia a todos.

Pesquisei sobre o funcionamento e a arquitetura de uma rede LTSP e até
aí tudo bem. A dúvida é sobre qual é o mínimo do mínimo de pacotes para
um terminal leve ser funcional? Por exemplo, que tipo de aplicativo
poderia ser removido, cortado na carne mesmo, da instalação mínima do
Debian (nos dois casos, com e sem parte gráfica) feita por DVD e que
rodaria no servidor, caso seja possível? 


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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Compatibilidade Placa Mãe

2013-04-25 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Bom dia ...

Qualquer uma das três funcionará perfeitamente com Debian ...

Uma dica, se vc quiser a máxima porformance possível das portas SATA 3,
configure na bios para AHCI .

Fábio Rabelo


Em 25 de abril de 2013 08:59, Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz 
eduardo.r@gmail.com escreveu:

 Saudações,
 gostaria de saber se alguém aqui na lista tem alguma dessas placas:
 GA-990FXA-UD3 [1] / GA-990FXA-UD5 [2] / GA-990FXA-UD7 [3]

 Pois estou pensando em adquiri-la e não sei qual será a compatibilidade de
 drivers para linux. Achei alguns relatos sobre ela, tem lugar que diz que
 funciona outros dizem que não. Caso alguém possa me ajudar agradeço.

 1 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894#ov
 2 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#ov
 3 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3880#ov

 --
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 www.bitmasters.com.br





Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Compatibilidade Placa Mãe

2013-04-25 Thread Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz
Certo, vou me atentar para essa configuração na hora da configuração da
BIOS.
Pelos preços vou ter que optar pela UD3 ou UD5.

Valeu.


Em 25 de abril de 2013 11:19, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Bom dia ...

 Qualquer uma das três funcionará perfeitamente com Debian ...

 Uma dica, se vc quiser a máxima porformance possível das portas SATA 3,
 configure na bios para AHCI .

 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 25 de abril de 2013 08:59, Eduardo Rodrigues da Luz 
 eduardo.r@gmail.com escreveu:

 Saudações,
 gostaria de saber se alguém aqui na lista tem alguma dessas placas:
 GA-990FXA-UD3 [1] / GA-990FXA-UD5 [2] / GA-990FXA-UD7 [3]

 Pois estou pensando em adquiri-la e não sei qual será a compatibilidade
 de drivers para linux. Achei alguns relatos sobre ela, tem lugar que diz
 que funciona outros dizem que não. Caso alguém possa me ajudar agradeço.

 1 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3894#ov
 2 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3891#ov
 3 - http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3880#ov

 --
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 www.bitmasters.com.br






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Re: Debian no iMac 9.1

2013-04-25 Thread André Nunes Batista
Obrigado pela dica Fábio! Vou ler os links que você passou e quando
fizer a instalação eu retorno os resultados aqui na lista.

E china, pode deixar, vou ser cuidadoso com a instalação.

Abraços,

-- 
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---BeginMessage---
Boa tarde .

O Debian nao tem suporte nativo ao EFI, pto o Sr. vai precisar do bootcamp,
um utilitário da própria Apple que emula a BIOS de um PC .

Isto significa que o Sr. não poderá remover o MAC OS desta máquina .

Existe suporte nativo ao EFI no Grub2 ( procure por rEFIt ), mas é
compilado com o Debian, mas existem outras distribuições que compilam o
suporte em seus Grub2 .

Existem tb voluntários gerando CDs bootáveis do Debian para MACs Intel, mas
não são oficiais, e suas páginas são em Inglês .

Aliás o Sr. vai encontrar bem pouca documentação sobre Linux em MAC Intel
em língua Portugeusa !

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro

http://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel

http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook



Fábio Rabelo


Em 24 de abril de 2013 15:50, André Nunes Batista
andrenbati...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Olá a todos!

 Vou instalar o Debian Wheezy no iMac 9.1 de um conhecido. O processador
 é Intel Core 2 Duo, então assumo que a instalação seja idêntica ao de um
 pc intel comum.

 Estou fazendo algumas pesquisas antes de começar, mas não encontrei nada
 muito relevante. Como nunca instalei o debian em nenhum MAC, resolvi
 perguntar se alguém aqui tem algum alerta a fazer. Não preciso de
 nenhuma ajuda específica no momento, mas seria muito grato por qualquer
 alerta sobre macs em geral.

 Grato!

 --
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Re: Debian no iMac 9.1

2013-04-25 Thread Sinval Júnior
Uso Ubuntu em meu MacBook Air. Sem problemas para gerar o pendriver de boot
basta usar o comando DD. Para voltar ao OSX basta durando o
boot pressionar a tecla Options. Pode formatar sem medo.

Ao encaminhar esta mensagem, por favor:
1 - Apague meu endereço eletrônico;
2 - Encaminhe como Cópia Oculta (Cco ou BCc) aos seus destinatários.
Dificulte assim a disseminação de vírus, spams e banners.

#=+
#!/usr/bin/env python
nome = 'Sinval Júnior'
email = 'sinvalju arroba gmail ponto com'
print nome
print email
#==+


Em 25 de abril de 2013 12:54, André Nunes Batista
andrenbati...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Obrigado pela dica Fábio! Vou ler os links que você passou e quando
 fizer a instalação eu retorno os resultados aqui na lista.

 E china, pode deixar, vou ser cuidadoso com a instalação.

 Abraços,

 --
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 -- Mensagem encaminhada --
 From: Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br
 To: André Nunes Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com,
 debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Cc:
 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:19:35 -0300
 Subject: Re: Debian no iMac 9.1
 Boa tarde .

 O Debian nao tem suporte nativo ao EFI, pto o Sr. vai precisar do
 bootcamp, um utilitário da própria Apple que emula a BIOS de um PC .

 Isto significa que o Sr. não poderá remover o MAC OS desta máquina .

 Existe suporte nativo ao EFI no Grub2 ( procure por rEFIt ), mas é
 compilado com o Debian, mas existem outras distribuições que compilam o
 suporte em seus Grub2 .

 Existem tb voluntários gerando CDs bootáveis do Debian para MACs Intel,
 mas não são oficiais, e suas páginas são em Inglês .

 Aliás o Sr. vai encontrar bem pouca documentação sobre Linux em MAC Intel
 em língua Portugeusa !

 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnIntelMacPro

 http://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel

 http://wiki.debian.org/MacBook



 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 24 de abril de 2013 15:50, André Nunes Batista andrenbati...@gmail.com
  escreveu:

 Olá a todos!

 Vou instalar o Debian Wheezy no iMac 9.1 de um conhecido. O processador
 é Intel Core 2 Duo, então assumo que a instalação seja idêntica ao de um
 pc intel comum.

 Estou fazendo algumas pesquisas antes de começar, mas não encontrei nada
 muito relevante. Como nunca instalei o debian em nenhum MAC, resolvi
 perguntar se alguém aqui tem algum alerta a fazer. Não preciso de
 nenhuma ajuda específica no momento, mas seria muito grato por qualquer
 alerta sobre macs em geral.

 Grato!

 --
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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick Bartek




 From: Dave Thayer debian1311420.dmtha...@recursor.net
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  How?  What MUA did you use?  When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail accounts 
 (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no option with the free 
 accounts 
 for POP3 or IMAP.  It was specifically said that if you wanted it, you could, 
 [snip]
 
 Oddly enough, while Yahoo! charges for POP access, they enable IMAP
 access on the free accounts. I'm guessing that's for mobile device
 support. Icedove knows the right thing to do, or look up the
 instructions on the Yahoo! help pages.


Okay.  I found the Yahoo IMAP help page.  The POP help still states you need a 
for pay Yahoo Mail Plus account, but no mention of that for IMAP.  I'll run a 
test.  I already have Sylpheed on this system, and it is both POP or IMAP 
compatible.  SSL, too.

Thanks.

B


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:57:21AM +0200, Dan wrote:
Hi,
I did an aptitude safe-upgrade of my Squeeze debian. And now the drivers
for the graphics card are broken. I am using an Radeon Graphics card, but
I downloaded the drivers directly from the webpage.
How could I undo the aptitude safe-upgrade in order to use the xserver
version that I was using before the upgrade?

Generally speaking, downgrades are unsupported in Debian (the usual
warning is what if the upgrade changed a configuration file format; the
old package might be unusable as a result). Bearing that in mind you
have a number of options.

Ideally, your first option is to try and find an updated driver for your
card. Does the free ATI driver support your card [1]? If not, does the
packaged proprietary driver support your card [2]? If either of these
support your card, you'll find life much easier to switch to them - see
the wiki pages for details.

If that doesn't work, you'll probably have to use snapshot.debian.org to
get the old package version. Basically, work out the date when things
worked and then look at [3] for details of how to use the archive.


[1] http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo
[2] http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary
[3] http://snapshot.debian.org/

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:17:31 +0100, Darac Marjal
mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:57:21AM +0200, Dan wrote:
Hi,
I did an aptitude safe-upgrade of my Squeeze debian. And now the drivers
for the graphics card are broken. I am using an Radeon Graphics card, but
I downloaded the drivers directly from the webpage.
How could I undo the aptitude safe-upgrade in order to use the xserver
version that I was using before the upgrade?
 
 Generally speaking, downgrades are unsupported in Debian [SNIP]
There is a way to run an emergency downgrading by changing packages
priorities but it is not recommended.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_emergency_downgrading

 
 Ideally, your first option is to try and find an updated driver for your
 card. [SNIP]
 
 
This seems the best way to resolve your problem.

Thanks,
Dan

Jean-Marc


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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 24 Apr 2013 at 23:02:48 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:

 Okay.  I found the Yahoo IMAP help page.  The POP help still states
 you need a for pay Yahoo Mail Plus account, but no mention of that
 for IMAP.  I'll run a test.  I already have Sylpheed on this system,
 and it is both POP or IMAP compatible.  SSL, too.

I've used my traditional MUA with a free account for years.

Collecting:

   brian@desktop:~$ telnet pop.mail.yahoo.co.uk 110
   Trying 188.125.69.223...
   Connected to pop1.mail.vip.ir2.yahoo.com.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   +OK hello from popgate-0.8.0.357900 pop010.mail.ir2.yahoo.com 
   user debian-user
   +OK password required.
   pass FreeSoftware
   +OK maildrop ready, 25 messages (206988 octets) (267884)
   list
   +OK 25 messages (206988 octets)
   1 10887
   2 6730
   3 5826
   etc
   .

Sending:

   brian@desktop:~$ telnet smtp.mail.yahoo.co.uk 25
   Trying 46.228.39.190...
   Connected to smtp.mail.eu.am0.yahoodns.net.
   Escape character is '^]'.
   220 smtp166.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ESMTP
   helo example.com
   250 smtp166.mail.ir2.yahoo.com
   mail from: any...@example.com
   530 authentication required - for help go to 
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-11.html


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Re: Wheezy Sleezy Gnome

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 09:07 -0700, Steven Rosenberg wrote:
 I knew that GNOME Shell had won me over.

Since GNOME still is alive, there seem to be many people using GNOME 3.
I can't understand this ;).



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Re: alternative email clients (was ... Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 03:27 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 http://www.yorba.org/projects/geary/

On Wed, 2013-04-24 at 17:38 +0200, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
 http://trojita.flaska.net/


Thank you, I'll take a look, assumed they are available by the Debian,
Ubuntu and Arch repositories.





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Re: Why does my ssh session terminate immediately?

2013-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:19:19 +0200, Andreas Leha
andreas.l...@med.uni-goettingen.de wrote:
 Hi Jean-Marc,
Hi Andreas,

 
 thanks for your suggestions.  See the results inline.
 
 [SNIP]
 
 So it says 'disconnected by user'?  I might mention, that can login to
 (all) other machines with that client without problems.
Strange, indeed.

What you can try is:
- do the same test making a connection with a working' server to
compare the results.
- check if you got error at network level (on your server with the
problem, netstat -in should display interfaces and errors counters).
- take a look at the network traffic with a network analyzer like
wireshark, looking especially to TCP RST packets (reseting connections).

 
 
 Regards,
 Andreas

JM


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Dan
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be wrote:

 On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 10:17:31 +0100, Darac Marjal
 mailingl...@darac.org.uk wrote:
  On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:57:21AM +0200, Dan wrote:
 Hi,
 I did an aptitude safe-upgrade of my Squeeze debian. And now the
 drivers
 for the graphics card are broken. I am using an Radeon Graphics
 card, but
 I downloaded the drivers directly from the webpage.
 How could I undo the aptitude safe-upgrade in order to use the
 xserver
 version that I was using before the upgrade?
 
  Generally speaking, downgrades are unsupported in Debian [SNIP]
 There is a way to run an emergency downgrading by changing packages
 priorities but it is not recommended.


 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_emergency_downgrading

 
  Ideally, your first option is to try and find an updated driver for your
  card. [SNIP]
 
 
 This seems the best way to resolve your problem.

 Thanks,
 Dan

 Jean-Marc


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Thanks for your answer,

I was able to downgrade doing the following

aptitude install xserver-common=2:1.7.7-14 xserver-xephyr=2:1.7.7-14
xserver-xorg-core=2:1.7.7-14

But this didn't work. Probably something else is broken. I could remove the
xserver and install it again with the ATI drivers. But I might directly
wipe the installation and install wheezy. Luckily I separated the /home and
/ partitions :)

Best,
Dan


Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
 use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
 
 This are my Rocketmail settings:
 
 Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
 Port:   995
 Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
 Authentication: Password
 
 Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
 Port:   465
 Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
 Authentication: Login
 
 While I can use my Alice account with all MUAs I tested, I didn't get my
 Rocketmail accounts working with all MUAs.
 
 If you'll google, you'll find loads of websites, such as
 http://email.about.com/od/accessingyahoomail/f/What_Are_the_Yahoo_Mail_POP_Settings.htm
 
 At least Rocketmail in Germany is for free as in beer and Rocketmail is
 Yahoo.

PS: IIRC I had to enable something for my accounts on the
Rocketmail/Yahoo website. If Yahoo shouldn't be for free as in beer, why
not switching to Rocketmail, the name anyway does sound hotter ;).



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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.

This are my Rocketmail settings:

Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Port:   995
Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
Authentication: Password

Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Port:   465
Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
Authentication: Login

While I can use my Alice account with all MUAs I tested, I didn't get my
Rocketmail accounts working with all MUAs.

If you'll google, you'll find loads of websites, such as
http://email.about.com/od/accessingyahoomail/f/What_Are_the_Yahoo_Mail_POP_Settings.htm

At least Rocketmail in Germany is for free as in beer and Rocketmail is
Yahoo.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 00:57 +0200, Dan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 
 I did an aptitude safe-upgrade of my Squeeze debian. And now the
 drivers for the graphics card are broken. I am using an Radeon
 Graphics card, but I downloaded the drivers directly from the webpage.
 
 
 How could I undo the aptitude safe-upgrade in order to use the xserver
 version that I was using before the upgrade?

If you updated the kernel too, you don't need a new driver source, but
you need to build the kernel modules again, to fit to the new kernel.



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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf


On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:01 +0200, Dan wrote:
 I was able to downgrade
 But this didn't work.

Downgrading the kernel, so that it can use the old modules, that fit to
the kernel version would work ;) or you build the modules to fit to the
new kernel ;).



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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:01 +0200, Dan wrote:
  I was able to downgrade
  But this didn't work.
 
 Downgrading the kernel, so that it can use the old modules, that fit to
 the kernel version would work ;) or you build the modules to fit to the
 new kernel ;).

PS: Usually, e.g. for NVIDIA cards, the version of X is unimportant, but
for ATI cards the proprietary driver isn't good supported, after a while
they stop maintaining the proprietary driver, so that it won't fit to X
anymore. It might be that you really need to downgrade X too, however,
your current issue likely are modules that don't fit to your kernel
version.



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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Dan
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:20 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:


 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:01 +0200, Dan wrote:
  I was able to downgrade
  But this didn't work.

 Downgrading the kernel, so that it can use the old modules, that fit to
 the kernel version would work ;) or you build the modules to fit to the
 new kernel ;).

 PS: Usually, e.g. for NVIDIA cards, the version of X is unimportant, but
 for ATI cards the proprietary driver isn't good supported, after a while
 they stop maintaining the proprietary driver, so that it won't fit to X
 anymore. It might be that you really need to downgrade X too, however,
 your current issue likely are modules that don't fit to your kernel
 version.



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Hi,

That means that AMD will not support Linux and X anymore? Is it better
to use the opensource driver?

I checked, and the kernel has not been updated. The problem is that I
didn't use the package system for the ATI drivers. I downloaded them
directly from the AMD webpage.

I do not know what is broken but I think that the easiest and fastest
is to wipe the installation and install wheezy from scratch.

Does ATI drivers work with wheezy? It seem that the bug (
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671320 ) has been
resolved.

The bug seems to be closed, but I didn't find much information here:
http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#fnref-8c149bc2bcfcb847ad18c87c9495ee741206088a

Dan


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Install debian from scratch and keep a home partition

2013-04-25 Thread Dan
Hi,

As I explained in a previous email I had an issue with the ATI driver
and squeeze and I decided to wipe squeeze and install wheezy. Luckily
the home partition is separated from the rest.

Which would be the best way to proceed?

I was going to do the following:

- Backup home and the files from /etc passwd, group, shadow and gshadow
- Install wheezy (I think it is possible to wipe the partition during
the installation)
- Remove the home directory
- Mount the old home partition using fstab (using also blkid in order
to use the UUID)
- merge the old passwd, group, shadow and gshadow with the new files
found in /etc

Thanks,
Daniel


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:52 +0200, Dan wrote:
 That means that AMD will not support Linux and X anymore? Is it better
 to use the opensource driver?

No, they don't update drivers for aged graphics, if you buy new ATI
cards, they provide drivers for current versions of X. It's likely that
the updated version of X is ok for the proprietary driver you're using.
For my ATI I need to use the open source driver, but I can forget
acceleration for some simple tasks, e.g. a transparent Xfce4 terminal is
a PITA, so I can't use it, Google Earth OTOH is ok. I experienced NVIDIA
as the better graphics regarding to the proprietary and open source
drivers, but since I use my machine for audio production, I chose the
graphics regarding to impact to audio, so I don't use always the same
graphics, but tend to switch it from time to time.

 I checked, and the kernel has not been updated.

That's strange, if you downgraded to the old version of X and the kernel
version still is the same, but it doesn't work, then something is fishy.

Was menu.cfg regenerated? Perhaps there's a bad option.
Do you use a xorg.conf?

*?*

I didn't read the bug reports, at the moment I anyway use Arch Linux and
can't help with Debian specific issues that much. However, your issue
seems not to be Debian related, but perhaps the bug reports say
something different and I'm mistaken ;).

IMO you should try to solve the issue by repairing what is broken now,
but I don't know what is important for you, so reinstalling Debian might
be the better solution for you.

Before you update, you should backup your Linux in the future.

Regards,
Ralf

PS: Please reply to the list only. TIA



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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Any interesting output by

$ grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
$ cat ~/.xsession-errors

?

It also could be that some security things changed for polkit or what
ever.


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Re: Install debian from scratch and keep a home partition

2013-04-25 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:54 +0200, Dan wrote:
 - merge the old passwd, group, shadow and gshadow with the new files
 found in /etc

Don't do that! Set up the groups again and add new passwords again.

 Remove the home directory

No need to do that. Just install Debian with home, included to the /
directory, instead of an additional partition. After installation you
can remove /home and mount the home partition instead, by /etc/fstab.

I prefer to keep everything within / and don't use a separated /home, so
I have to copy an old /home, resp. I only copy emails and VBox settings,
but anything else I set up again, so it for sure does fit to new
versions of the used software.


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Re: 8 port serial PCI card on squeeze

2013-04-25 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


ML mail wrote:


I am trying to configure an 8 port serial PCI card and managed to get the 3 
first ports working but the 5 others do not work. The ouput of 
/proc/tty/drivers/serial is the following:

0: uart:TI16750 port:03F8 irq:4 tx:2608 rx:0 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR
1: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001000 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
2: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001200 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
3: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001400 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0


That's 4 working ports. Which is the default.


4: uart:16550A port:1040 irq:19 tx:11 rx:0 RTS|DTR
5: uart:16550A port:1048 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
6: uart:16550A port:1050 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0

7: uart:16550A port:1058 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0


serial port 0 is the serial port of the main board then the serial port card starts at 
position 1. So you see here that the port 1, 2 and 3 are configured correctly but the 
rest  are not. I already added the two kernel parameters 8250.runtime_uarts=8 
8250.nr_uarts=8


Where?


but that didn't help. Does anyone know what could be wrong here?

I am using Debian 6.0 and the 8 port serial PCI card is the following: 
http://www.exsys.ch/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=626language=en

Last, here is the ouput of lspci -v on that card:

0d:00.0 Serial controller: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd Device c308 (prog-if 02 
[16550])
 Subsystem: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd Device c308
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
 Memory at a500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Memory at a520 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
 Memory at a540 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
 Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
 Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [b0] MSI-X: Enable- Count=16 Masked-
 Kernel driver in use: serial


Are you quite sure that the motherboard only has one serial port?
Sometimes the second port needs a IDC + ribbon + bracket with RS232 
connector. Consult the motherboard docs.


Check CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS= and CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS= 
in your kernel config.

The first is the maximum number of RS232 ports, the second the default.
Th first has to be = the total number of RS232 ports.

Edit /etc/default/grub; GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=8250.nr_uarts=9
Or 10, if your motherboard has 2 ports.
Run update-grub.
Check /boot/grub/grub.cfg
Reboot.


Regards,
Rob
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Re: Install debian from scratch and keep a home partition

2013-04-25 Thread Jean-Marc
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 12:54:37 +0200, Dan ganc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
Hi Dan,

 
 As I explained in a previous email I had an issue with the ATI driver
 [SNIP]

 I was going to do the following:
 
 - Backup home and the files from /etc passwd, group, shadow and gshadow
Always back-up your data; good practice.

 - Install wheezy (I think it is possible to wipe the partition during
 the installation)
The new Debian Wheezy installer will allow you to keep your partition
scheme and its content.

 - Remove the home directory
You can choose to keep its content during the installation process.
I did it during my laptop re-install'.  To avoid to copy data from
backup and to save time.
I do not have any ref to the doc' and currently no time to search for
but take a look at the doc', it can be helpful if you want to keep your
/home and the data on it as it is.

 - Mount the old home partition using fstab (using also blkid in order
 to use the UUID)
 - merge the old passwd, group, shadow and gshadow with the new files
 found in /etc
If you want to keep your users/groups def., it is better to make a
small script to extract them out of the old passwd and group files and
to re-create them resetting their passwords.

 
 Thanks,
 Daniel

Jean-Marc


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gvfs-* from shell

2013-04-25 Thread Pol Hallen
Hi folks!

Using mate, often I mount by caja file manager remote share:

smbmount://ip/share

from caja works perfectly but I can't use this mounted share from shell

where I see that mounted share?

thanks!

Pol


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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 19:44:29 -0700 (PDT)
Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hello Patrick,

How?  What MUA did you use?  When I initially set up my Yahoo Mail
accounts (I have

I use Claws Mail which, as you may know, started out as a branch of
Sylpheed.

Others have listed the settings required and also said that you may well
have to enable POP access via your yahoo account's settings pages.

Hopefully, you'll be well on the way to sorting things out by the time
you see this message.

Good luck.

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Re: 8 port serial PCI card on squeeze

2013-04-25 Thread ML mail
Dear Rob,

Thanks for your help. So to answer your question of where I added the 8250 
kernel parameters, that would be in /etc/default/grub file in the 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable.

With your hints I was now able to find out that somehow my machine (a Soekris 
net6501-30 board) has one console serial port and 4 additional unused (no 
cables or plugs) serial ports. So this means I had to use the 13 parameter to 
the 8250.runtime_uarts and 8250.nr_uarts kernel boot config options. Now I can 
see all my ports but the order is somehow mixed up :( have a look here at the 
output of /proc/tty/driver/serial :

0: uart:TI16750 port:03F8 irq:4 tx:2608 rx:0 RTS|DTR
1: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001A00 irq:19 tx:11 rx:0 RTS|DTR
2: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001C00 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
3: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001E00 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
4: uart:16550A port:1040 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
5: uart:16550A port:1048 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
6: uart:16550A port:1050 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
7: uart:16550A port:1058 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
8: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001000 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
9: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001200 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
10: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001400 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
11: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001600 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
12: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001800 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0


So 0 is the serial console port (ttyS0) then 1-3 are 3 ports of my serial card, 
4-7 are then 4 serial ports from the net6501-30 mainboard and finally 8-12 are 
the rest 5 ports of my serial port card. As you can see it's a big mess and I 
don't understand how my 8 port serial card gets splitted like that. Any clues 
how to bring some order here?

Best regards,
M.L.


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From: Rob van der Putten r...@sput.nl
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Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: 8 port serial PCI card on squeeze

Hi there


ML mail wrote:

 I am trying to configure an 8 port serial PCI card and managed to get the 3 
 first ports working but the 5 others do not work. The ouput of 
 /proc/tty/drivers/serial is the following:

 0: uart:TI16750 port:03F8 irq:4 tx:2608 rx:0 RTS|CTS|DTR|DSR
 1: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001000 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
 2: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001200 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
 3: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001400 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0

That's 4 working ports. Which is the default.

 4: uart:16550A port:1040 irq:19 tx:11 rx:0 RTS|DTR
 5: uart:16550A port:1048 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
 6: uart:16550A port:1050 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0

 7: uart:16550A port:1058 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0


 serial port 0 is the serial port of the main board then the serial port card 
 starts at position 1. So you see here that the port 1, 2 and 3 are configured 
 correctly but the rest  are not. I already added the two kernel parameters 
 8250.runtime_uarts=8 8250.nr_uarts=8

Where?

 but that didn't help. Does anyone know what could be wrong here?

 I am using Debian 6.0 and the 8 port serial PCI card is the following: 
 http://www.exsys.ch/index.php?main_page=product_infoproducts_id=626language=en

 Last, here is the ouput of lspci -v on that card:

 0d:00.0 Serial controller: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd Device c308 (prog-if 02 
 [16550])
      Subsystem: Oxford Semiconductor Ltd Device c308
      Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
      Memory at a500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
      Memory at a520 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
      Memory at a540 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
      Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
      Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
      Capabilities: [b0] MSI-X: Enable- Count=16 Masked-
      Kernel driver in use: serial

Are you quite sure that the motherboard only has one serial port?
Sometimes the second port needs a IDC + ribbon + bracket with RS232 
connector. Consult the motherboard docs.

Check CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_NR_UARTS= and CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_RUNTIME_UARTS= 
in your kernel config.
The first is the maximum number of RS232 ports, the second the default.
Th first has to be = the total number of RS232 ports.

Edit /etc/default/grub; GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=8250.nr_uarts=9
Or 10, if your motherboard has 2 ports.
Run update-grub.
Check /boot/grub/grub.cfg
Reboot.


Regards,
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Re: [Debian installer] Problem with umounting hd-media

2013-04-25 Thread Brian
On Tue 23 Apr 2013 at 15:22:06 +0100, Brian wrote:

 On Tue 23 Apr 2013 at 10:58:16 +0200, Julien Groselle wrote:
 
  We don't know if it is a bug or a normal behavior...
 
 It is not the behaviour with a Squeeze ISO but someone on debian-boot is
 likely to know whether the change in iso-scan is intentional. I'd say it
 is worth sending a mail there.

iso-scan is not responsible for the unmounting of /dev/sdX. I do not
know why I implied it was.

  But we need to keep data on USB Stick accessible on the server during all
  the install process.
  
  Please, we need advice on this case.
 
 1. Provide the data on another USB stick, or
 
 2. Write the ISO to a USB stick as in Section 4.3.1. There is free space
remaining to partition and format.

It would be good if you would say whether this works for your situation.

However, within the context of your chosen installation method, it is
sufficient to return to the third menu option (Scan hard drives for an
installer ISO). This will unmount /cdrom, then mount /hd-media and
/cdrom again. You can then continue from where you left off.

The same result can be obtained with

   umount /cdrom
   mount -tvfat /dev/sdX /hd-media
   mount /hd-media/yourISO /cdrom

from a console session.

It should be noted that the method you have used for booting from a USB
device should be used only if you have some special requirement which
cannot be met by the recommended technique in Section 4.3.1. In the vast
majority of cases setting up the device for booting from an isohybrid
ISO is reliable and will suit most users.



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Re: 8 port serial PCI card on squeeze

2013-04-25 Thread Rob van der Putten

Hi there


ML mail wrote:


Thanks for your help. So to answer your question of where I added the 8250 
kernel parameters, that would be in /etc/default/grub file in the 
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX variable.

With your hints I was now able to find out that somehow my machine (a Soekris 
net6501-30 board) has one console serial port and 4 additional unused (no 
cables or plugs) serial ports.


According the documentation I found it has two: One DB9 and one IDC10.
It may have additional but not fully used hardware.


So this means I had to use the 13 parameter to the 8250.runtime_uarts and 
8250.nr_uarts kernel boot config options. Now I can see all my ports but the order is 
somehow mixed up :( have a look here at the output of /proc/tty/driver/serial :

0: uart:TI16750 port:03F8 irq:4 tx:2608 rx:0 RTS|DTR
1: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001A00 irq:19 tx:11 rx:0 RTS|DTR
2: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001C00 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
3: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001E00 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
4: uart:16550A port:1040 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
5: uart:16550A port:1048 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
6: uart:16550A port:1050 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
7: uart:16550A port:1058 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
8: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001000 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
9: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001200 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
10: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001400 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
11: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001600 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0
12: uart:16C950/954 mmio:0xA5001800 irq:19 tx:0 rx:0


So 0 is the serial console port (ttyS0) then 1-3 are 3 ports of my serial card, 
4-7 are then 4 serial ports from the net6501-30 mainboard and finally 8-12 are 
the rest 5 ports of my serial port card. As you can see it's a big mess and I 
don't understand how my 8 port serial card gets splitted like that. Any clues 
how to bring some order here?


I guess it's the PCI discovery order. It may change with PCI slot used 
and kernel version.



Regards,
Rob
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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread David Guntner
Patrick Bartek grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 From: Dave Thayer debian1311420.dmtha...@recursor.net
 
 On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 07:44:29PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
 How?  What MUA did you use?  When I initially set up my Yahoo
 Mail accounts (I have several)--this was years ago--there was no
 option with the free accounts for POP3 or IMAP.  It was
 specifically said that if you wanted it, you could, [snip]
 
 Oddly enough, while Yahoo! charges for POP access, they enable
 IMAP access on the free accounts. I'm guessing that's for mobile
 device support. Icedove knows the right thing to do, or look up
 the instructions on the Yahoo! help pages.

Yup.  That's a nice loophole they created that works out well for those
of us using Thunderbird or other MUAs. :-)

 Okay.  I found the Yahoo IMAP help page.  The POP help still states
 you need a for pay Yahoo Mail Plus account, but no mention of that
 for IMAP.  I'll run a test.  I already have Sylpheed on this system,
 and it is both POP or IMAP compatible.  SSL, too.

Yahoo supports SSL, so no worries there.  I've got it set for
imap.mail.yahoo.com on port 993 for SSL/TLS incoming and
smtp.mail.yahoo.com on port 465 for SSL/TLS outgoing.  Works like a champ.

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Re: Install debian from scratch and keep a home partition

2013-04-25 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Jeu 25 avril 2013 12:54, Dan a écrit :
 Hi,


 As I explained in a previous email I had an issue with the ATI driver
 and squeeze and I decided to wipe squeeze and install wheezy. Luckily the
 home partition is separated from the rest.

 Which would be the best way to proceed?


 I was going to do the following:


 - Backup home and the files from /etc passwd, group, shadow and gshadow

As other have said, I do not think keeping files from passwd, group,
shadow and gshadow is a good idea.

 - Install wheezy (I think it is possible to wipe the partition during
 the installation) - Remove the home directory

Simply keep the home dir and specify the installer that you will want it
mounted as your /home. If possible, remove configuration files (but keep a
backup for next steps) before reinstalling.

 - Mount the old home partition using fstab (using also blkid in order
 to use the UUID) - merge the old passwd, group, shadow and gshadow with the
 new files found in /etc

I have to idea about why you are bothering with UUIDs here: simply say to
installer you want to use your current home partition as /home and that
you do not want to format it, and you'll be done.


For stuff in /etc and ~/, I think the best is to compare the version you
will have backed up to current ones.
Some tools you can use:
_ diff for command-line. I do not think this is really the best one
honestly, because you will see differences, but syncing files to something
coherent is boring with the combination of diff and a text editor.
_ meld if you use a gtk-based desktop (it also works on other, but maybe
KDE have a better tool for that). This one is the one I use when I need to
merge source code files: it's GUI is comfortable to use, and will allow
you to send to destination only differences you want quite easily.


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Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 13:40:01 +0200
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/

That's good, it won't. If you occasionally try:

#apt-get autoremove

you will probably see it is trying to rid itself of 'acroread' files. If you 
want
to upgrade Adobe reader you have to go and get the Debs from Adobe and
install them with dpkg:

# dpkg -i  AdbeRdr9.5.4-1_i386linux_enu.deb  (no x86_64 version available)

Since Linux seems to be the Adobe stepchild to the windows combine it is
only at the modest version of 9x..but works ok for me. This latest verson seems 
to
work without the Debian files so that's probably good. At any rate I let apt-get
remove them and Adobe reader still lives.

I don't particularly like having to use Adobe Reader but I got really fed up 
with
trying to print something from xpdf and went over to the beast.

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Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 April 2013 16:48:53 Charles Kroeger wrote:
  I have never noticed my free version of 9 updating itself. :-/

 That's good, it won't. If you occasionally try:

Thanks for the reply, Charles!

I am quite happy with things as they are, for now.  The OP was worried about 
his copy of Acrobat Reader 9 on Linux updating itself automatically and 
consuming his bandwidth.

I think the possibility of his Linux AR updating itself automatically is 
vanishingly remote, and that he is probably muddling Windows up with Linux, 
but I am not in a position to state categorically that AR in Linux _never_ 
updates itself!  Hence my more guarded statement.

I imagine that he is trying to solve in Linux (unnecessarily) a problem he has 
in Windows.  That seems to be his whole approach.

Lisi


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Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 24 April 2013 11:40:17 Richard Owlett wrote:
 One thing perhaps wasn't clear. I was referring to my
 Windows experience

Sorry, Richard.  :-(  I didn't take in that you had actually _said_ that.

You simply can't use your Windows experience to predict the problems that you 
will have in Linux.  They are different.  If you really want to use Linux, I 
think that you would do better just to take the plunge.

You are trying to solve problems which simply don't arise in Linux, so do not 
need solving in Linux.

Lisi


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Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Richard Owlett

Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 24 April 2013 11:40:17 Richard Owlett wrote:

One thing perhaps wasn't clear. I was referring to my
Windows experience


Sorry, Richard.  :-(  I didn't take in that you had actually _said_ that.

You simply can't use your Windows experience to predict the problems that you
will have in Linux.  They are different.  If you really want to use Linux, I
think that you would do better just to take the plunge.


chuckle
I just have a different mindset than others. I've been known 
to not only read instruction manuals, but to read them 
before unpacking a new gadget.


People have been telling me to just take the plunge for 
almost three years.

I think I'm happier for having looked for shoals first.
I've enjoyed the learning experience I've had.
I think I've said before if retirement isn't for learning 
something new, what use is it ;)




You are trying to solve problems which simply don't arise in Linux, so do not
need solving in Linux.

Lisi





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Fwd: Question

2013-04-25 Thread german carutti
Hello.
I am a teacher of hardware and software Argentina high school and yesterday
I was going to buy a cell phone, my main option was android, but I have
found that this system is corporate because you are not allowed to
modify, interact
with the root and also google can see who your contacts, calendar, where
you are and you do.
This agreement does not violate the use of free software?
No one would have units Alternative to this?
Thanks for your time.


Re: touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-25 Thread Kevin Chadwick
  
  Not quite. I want sudo 'activated' when I enter my password.
  
  Ie, when I log in to XFCE, or when I unlock the xscreensaver, I have
  in both cases just entered my password. So because I just entered my
  password, I expect sudo to be 'activated'.  
 
 Ah, now I get it. :)
 
 I suppose there's a way to do this using xscreensaver-command -watch
 and some scripting, but if you have only a couple of scripts that
 need to run rather often (and are not very dangerous, i.e. allow no
 interactivity or shell commands), then I'd still use NOPASSWD for those
 specific scripts in sudoers.
 
 After all, it's not like you can only have one line in sudoers per
 user/group. :)

Yeah, usually for guis you want to only run a single command, perhaps
so you can get rid of that polkit that should only be doing a single
job well.

Defaults:user timestamp_timeout=0

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Re: Introductory reading on firewall/iptables/etc for new Debian user?

2013-04-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 25 April 2013 17:39:14 Richard Owlett wrote:
 I think I'm happier for having looked for shoals first.

Looking for shoals is one thing.  But you are creating them.

And I always read manuals first.  It isn't that unusual. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Und last aptitude safe-upgrade

2013-04-25 Thread Steven Post
On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 13:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 12:52 +0200, Dan wrote:
[...]
 
  I checked, and the kernel has not been updated.
 
 That's strange, if you downgraded to the old version of X and the kernel
 version still is the same, but it doesn't work, then something is fishy.
 
 Was menu.cfg regenerated? Perhaps there's a bad option.
 Do you use a xorg.conf?
 
[...]

I can't really speak for AMD/ATI, but I ran the NVidia binary driver
from their website for a while in combination with Debian Testing.
In my experience, the driver had to be reinstalled every time the x
packages were upgraded, not just X versions, but packaging changes as
well. That was really unpleasant as it occurs quite often.
Not downloading a new driver, just reinstalling the one you already had.

Luckily, I can now use the Debian packages for the binary driver and
nouveau is also good enough if I don't run 3D heavy applications.

So maybe just try to reinstall the AMD driver?



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check against and extract info from .changes

2013-04-25 Thread Jerome BENOIT
Hello List,

is there any tools to check against and to extract info from .changes Debian 
files ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


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Re: Fwd: Question

2013-04-25 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 03:03:00PM -0300, german carutti wrote:
 Hello.
 I am a teacher of hardware and software Argentina high school and yesterday
 I was going to buy a cell phone, my main option was android, but I have
 found that this system is corporate because you are not allowed to
 modify, interact
 with the root and also google can see who your contacts, calendar, where
 you are and you do.
 This agreement does not violate the use of free software?
 No one would have units Alternative to this?

I'm not familiar with the available cell phone providers in
Argentina, but I'll make an assumption that the situation is
similar to Europe, in that you can purchase a phone and a GSM
SIM separately from the service provider you choose.

Android is a fork of Linux plus an entire windowing system and 
management interface. The base Android system is open source.

A phone which you purchase may be locked down to one extent or
another, but you should be able to buy a phone which is easy to
unlock. Then you can put a free distribution of Android on it.

For example, I use a Samsung Galaxy Nexus with the Android Open
Source Project derivative distribution called AOKP. The Nexus
phones are all easy to unlock.

A little research should show you what phones are compatible
with your service providers and are also easy to replace the
operating systems.


-dsr-


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Re: MUA Yahoo Mail (WAS:Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?)

2013-04-25 Thread Peter Tynan
 On Thu, 2013-04-25 at 11:57 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  When I set up my Rocketmail accounts, Evolution automatically wanted to
  use IMAP, but I forced to use POP.
  
  This are my Rocketmail settings:
  
  Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:   995
  Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
  Authentication: Password
  
  Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
  Port:   465
  Security:   SSL on a dedicated port
  Authentication: Login


I'd just like to say thanks for  all the information in this thread as
it finally prompted me to set up my old talk21 email address in my MUA
of choice  - heirloom-mailx, (talk21  was a email service  provided by
British Telecom and is now farmed out to Yahoo).

IMAP with  SSL is working fine  but much to my  disappointment I could
only get  SMTP working without SSL  (note: I have SSL working  fine on
other accounts so I  think this is a talk21 thing  (and a quick google
search seems to back me up on this)).

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Re: Install debian from scratch and keep a home partition

2013-04-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Dan wrote:
 - Backup home and the files from /etc passwd, group, shadow and gshadow
 ...
 - merge the old passwd, group, shadow and gshadow with the new files
 found in /etc

You so far have three votes against doing this but I will vote *for*
doing it.  I think this is okay.  It all depends upon what you have
already and what you are trying to save.  Backup all of /etc.

I would make a good backup of /etc, /var/backups, and anything in
/var in particular but /var whole if possible.  MySQL stores files
there for example and you didn't say what you had installed.

But I have no idea what you meant by merging.  I would only restore
users that have files on the /home you are keeping.  Any user above or
equal to uid number 1000.  That certainly makes sense.  Let the
packages install their own system users for themselves is easiest.

Bob


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Re: check against and extract info from .changes

2013-04-25 Thread Jaikumar Sharma
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:41 AM, Jerome BENOIT g62993...@rezozer.netwrote:
is there any tools to check against and to extract info from .changes
Debian files ?
Can you mention as to what you want to achieve?
Probably, *man dpkg-genchanges* would give your more hints.

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