Re: Can't access gateway IP

[Karl E. Jorgensen]

On Fri, May 03, 2013 at 11:05:13PM +0100, s0lid wrote:
> Hi, 
> 
> Im having an unsual issue with my debian 6.0.7 server. This is a fresh install
> and i set the IP settings to DHCP. It get the IP from my router(192.168.1.1), 
> I
> tried to ping the router IP but it doesn't reply i tried to ping a computers 
> it
> replies fine, I don't know what's going on here this is the first time i had 
> an
> issue with debian in terms of network. The router is accessible and can be 
> ping
> from my laptop.
> 
> ---from my laptop---
> 
> $ ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=254 time=2.623 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=254 time=1.000 ms
> 
> $ ping 192.168.1.200
> PING 192.168.1.200 (192.168.1.200): 56 data bytes
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.200: icmp_seq=0 ttl=128 time=5.701 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.200: icmp_seq=1 ttl=128 time=2.320 ms
> 
> 
> ---from debian server---
> root@debian:~# ping 192.168.1.1
> PING 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 
> PING 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=40.5 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=1.96 ms
> 64 bytes from 192.168.1.2: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=2.08 ms
> ^C
> --- 192.168.1.2 ping statistics ---
> 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 1.967/14.861/40.532/18.152 ms
> 
> 
> 
> I don't know if there's an issue with TTL or even if it's related at all. I
> also run arp from the debian server and it can see the router's 
> IP(192.168.1.1)
> 
> root@debian:~# arp -a
> ? (192.168.1.1) at 40:4a:03:d6:ac:a9 [ether] on eth1
> ? (192.168.1.101) at e0:f8:47:1e:a0:a6 [ether] on eth1
> ? (192.168.1.105) at 08:00:27:b3:86:01 [ether] on eth1
> ? (192.168.1.200) at 00:16:b6:1e:01:a0 [ether] on eth1

Although you got the IP address via DHCP, it is still possible that
you have an IP collision - which could also give these symptoms, as
different servers will have different ideas of IP/MAC mappings on the
local network. To make things complicated, it often changes over time
too, as caches and cache expirations are in effect.

There's a couple of ways you can diagnose this: The easiest is to
remove your "suspected faulty" box from the network (unplug network
cable physically), and check whether the IP address still responds to
pings. If it does, then something else has that IP address.

To futher diagnose, this, you could manually change the IP address of
the debian server to an IP address you know for sure to be free.

Hope this helps
-- 
Karl E. Jorgensen


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Re: bluetooth problem

[Gean Ceretta]

- Original Message -
From: andrey.ry...@bilkent.edu.tr
Sent: 05/06/13 05:14 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: bluetooth problem

Hi i have problem with bluetooth blueoothd is working. applet in gnome3 is 
presented. It shows that bluetooth is on but i can not switch on visibility. 
blutooth setting dialog box can be opened but everything in this dialog is 
disabled What should i do? bluetooth device is presented in my host # hcitool 
scan Device is not available: No such device thanks in advance Hi, I 
experienced that problem too, I solved installing the Atheros Firmware from the 
non-free repository, maybe this is your problem, search for the firmware of 
your hardware:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-atheros

Good look :D

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Re: wu-ftp substitute

[Joel Wirāmu Pauling]

vsftpd

On 7 May 2013 16:23, T o n g  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for a wu-ftp substitute, i.e., an ftp server that is
> relatively easy to configure the anonymous upload.
>
> Please advice.
> Thanks
>
>
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wu-ftp substitute

[T o n g]

Hi, 

I'm looking for a wu-ftp substitute, i.e., an ftp server that is 
relatively easy to configure the anonymous upload. 

Please advice. 
Thanks



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The order of my SATA and PATA are switching all the time

[T o n g]

Hi, 

Recently I added an old PATA HD to my system, which previously consist of 
two SATA HDs. Ever since then, the order of my SATA and PATA are keep 
switching. 

NB, it is not that I can't boot, I can boot just fine, but half of the 
time the boot process will drop to that single user PANIC mode, saying 
sdbX can't be found. It looked to me that PATA was sda more than not, so 
I arrange my fstab like that, but due to so many boot failures, I'm not 
sure what's udev's picks actually is now. 

I've looked and seems that it is a well-known Debian only issue. E.g., 
http://linux.error-exception.org/article/1085839/dual+boot+mix+of+SATA+and
+PATA(EIDE)+drives
http://linux.error-exception.org/article/1267483/SATA+and+PATA+keep
+switching+drive+alias

"In my experience Debian derived distros don't handle the mix of [PS]ATA 
drives at all well. Seems to be a result of initscripts/udev rules not 
matching the device order the BIOS enumerates. Flat out bug.  I avoid the 
issue by using a distro that can work these things out sensibly. Usually 
Arch, although I also have Fedora 15 as the inital boot system on a 
machine that Ubuntu couldn't handle. Sorry I don't have a better answer 
for you."

Anyone know the cure? 

Thanks


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Re: business card image, where?

[Paul Condon]

On 05/06/2013 05:20 PM, Brian wrote:

On Tue 07 May 2013 at 00:09:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


On Lu, 06 mai 13, 14:33:45, Paul Condon wrote:

Can this mini.iso be written to a USB memory stick, as well as to a
blank CD?

You already have a reference for that. Something that is not widely
known about the mini.iso is that it can also be written on the
to-be-installed media ;)

Which includes the USB stick the ISO is on. So you can boot d-i from the
stick, provide needed firmware from the same stick and install to it.
Some would see that as value for money, :)

I don't understand why one would want to install grub on the memstick as 
if it
were to become somehow self booting. The bios handles booting from the 
mini.iso because the mini.iso has been crafted to be booted by the bios. 
Wouldn't grub be superfluous? Or what?


And isn't needed firmware already part of the bios (which is pretty much 
all the firmare in a PC) . Or would grub/firmware a different way to 
boot instead of the code in the mini.iso??

But beware! If dd, cat or cp is used to write the ISO to the stick GRUB
will not install on it because it detects the signature of an isohybrid\.
The solution is
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=100

prior to partitioning. /dev/sdX is the USB stick. The wrong 'X' could
ruin your day.
But, as I read the instructions, the is no partitioning done, just a write with 
dd, cat, or dd. So prior to what step is the above done? But, agree that it is 
a good idea to write only onto the device intended, and not clobber some other 
device on the computer on which one is doing the preperation of the memstick. I 
am confused.
And I wish I had better control of the text editor in Icedove. This 
looks very messy.



In any case, I think I have succeeded in putting mimi.iso on a USB flash 
drive in a way that can be booted using the bios of the computer on 
which I wish to install Wheezy. And I could not have done it without 
your advice and counsel.


Thanks.




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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Rick Thomas]

> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Default User  
> wrote:
> Hello.  
> 
> I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the 
> debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.  
> 
> In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted to 
> include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The install 
> went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.  
> 
> If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and did 
> apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing contrib and 
> non-free stuff?  And would that mess up the already installed system?

On May 6, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Default User wrote
> Thanks for the replies.  
> 
> I may not actually need any additional packages from contrib or non-free.  
> But I hope I am not missing anything like proprietary hardware drivers, or 
> add-ins required to play proprietary media formats, for example. 
> 
> I did try to install in expert text mode first, but when it asked which 
> kernel should be installed, I decided to let the install program decide that, 
> so I re-did the install using the default text install mode.  
> 
> And as for the freeness of Debian: that's why I am using it.  I strongly 
> support Debian, EFF, RMS, etc. 
> 

OK, So the bottom line here is that you only get the question about 
non-free/contrib in "expert" mode.

It does no harm to add them to your sources.list file after the fact, but you 
may have missed out on some "recommends" from packages in "main" when you were 
installing.

If the only thing you are concerned about is non-free firmware blobs, you can:
add non-free and contrib to sources.list
aptitude upgrade && aptitude install firmware-linux-nonfree
and you should be good to go, possibly after re-creating the initrd so as to 
include the new firmware.

If you want to be sure you got all the recommended packages (including those 
that are contrib or non-free) you will have to do some command line work to 
list out all the recommended packages from those you already have installed, 
and seeing which of those are not installed because they weren't available when 
their "recommender" packages were being installed.  I don't have the problem, 
myself, so I haven't worked out the magic, but I'd start by reading up on the 
search syntax for aptitude.  Then sort(1) and comm(1) will be useful. I'd guess.

Enjoy!

Rick




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Re: Debian in the sunshine?

[Hendrik Boom]

On Mon, 06 May 2013 18:27:59 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:

> I have had pretty good luck using my Nokia N900 in the sunshine. I have
> been known to read using FBreader on it, as well as using other apps.
> Now my preference is white text on a black background, but that seems to
> work out pretty well...
> 
> --b

My Nokia 800 doesn't work well in sunlight.  Tried it.

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old vs new system uid/gid

[Ross Boylan]

It would be very handy if, while creating a new system, I could replicate the 
uid and gid's of an old one--by which I mean replicate the mapping of numbers 
to names.  I want to restore the old system, and my backup system (bacula) 
uses numeric uid/gid only.  My backups have all the customized files, including 
/etc, but don't have standard ones, in particular /usr.

Any suggestions how to go about this?  I can think of 3 general strategies, 
none without problems.

1. Copy passwd and related files.
Debootstrap the new system and then copy the old passwd, group and shadow files 
over the exiisting ones.  I suppose it would be safer to have a script read 
the old files and do adduser/addgroup as appropriate, since that would assure 
the home directories existed (and maybe do other stuff I'm not aware of).

I'm not sure if creating accounts before installation of the packages that 
usually create the accounts will screw up the proper setup of the packages and 
accounts.

A problem with this strategy is that the installation procedure creates some 
accounts early on, and I'm not sure I can intervene before that point.  The 
new system* has libuuid with uid 100; ssh is 101; the old system had ssh at 
100 and no libuuid at all.

2. Restore old system and upgrade it.
Restorethe old system into a VM and then upgrade.  It would be a big upgrade, 
Lenny->wheezy (needs to be lenny->squeeze->wheezy to be supported) and 32 to 
64 bit (which is not officially supported at all, though there's stuff around 
the 
net).  

I think this needs to be done in a VM not a chroot, since the latter will get 
its uid/gid info from the host system.

This also has some uid syncronization issues since I must recreate the system 
before putting the files onto it; these should be less acute since a variant of 
1 should work more cleanly.

3. Clean up afterwards.

Restore the old files with the old ids, install the necessary packages to 
create all relevant accounts, and then make a script to swizzle the old ids to 
new ones.

Since I use VMs I should probably be using LDAP, but I think that's best left 
for later.

(*) I expect I will need to recreate this new system; it is temporary but has 
the 64 bit wheezy environment I'm targetting.  The ids on the temporary system 
are already significantly different from those of the old one.  The old system 
and disk died (32 bit lenny).  I have backups but not complete  disk images; 
e.g., I didn't back up /usr. 


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Re: RE: RE: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[rlwbonsai]

Thanks.  The Gnome terminal is now usable in XFCE.  Can't check
rxvt because trying to start rxvt crashes X.  Trying to start it
a second time, after logging in from the first crash, crashed
the system.  I like rxvt from past experience but it seems not
to be an option in Wheezy.  I really, really don't like Gnome
'classic' so it is either XFCE or Fluxbox.  I have good
experience with both in the past.

Thanks again.


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Re: Partially encrypted backup?

[Celejar]

On Mon, 6 May 2013 16:15:56 + (UTC)
Hendrik Boom  wrote:

> I'm currently using rdiff-backup onto removable USB drives for backup.  I 
> don not encrypt them now because I'm terrified of losing the encryption 
> key and hence losing access to my backups.
> 
> I'm planning to trade backup drives with an acquaintance for off-site 
> backups.  I trust her, but I don't trust not every random person who 
> lives in her house or visits.
> 
> Is there any way of doing the backup partially encrypted so that files 
> are encrypted only if not world-readable?

Perhaps use the 'find' command with the '-perm' argument to generate
lists of files that are and are not world readable, and pipe the
outputs to the backup program with the appropriate invocations? I'm not
a find guru, so I won't try to give the syntax, and I can't judge the
level of performance hit that doing it this way will engender.

Celejar


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Default User]

Thanks for the replies.

I may not actually need any additional packages from contrib or non-free.
But I hope I am not missing anything like proprietary hardware drivers, or
add-ins required to play proprietary media formats, for example.

I did try to install in expert text mode first, but when it asked which
kernel should be installed, I decided to let the install program decide
that, so I re-did the install using the default text install mode.

And as for the freeness of Debian: that's why I am using it.  I strongly
support Debian, EFF, RMS, etc.




On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Default User wrote:

> Hello.
>
> I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the
> debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.
>
> In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted
> to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The
> install went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.
>
> If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
> did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing
> contrib and non-free stuff?  And would that mess up the already installed
> system?
>
>
>

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[berenger . morel]

Le 06.05.2013 19:55, Patrick Bartek a écrit :

On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:


[forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well]

On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> I never use the "Stable" name any more.  Learned my lesson a
> few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to
> "Stable"--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new
> "Stable".  I ended up with a hybrid system, a mix of Etch and
> Lenny.  Amazingly, it still worked. And still does. However, I
> never 'apt-get upgraded' again for fear of trashing it.

It should be possible to upgrade it completely to lenny and then
squeeze and then wheezy. Reading the corresponding Release Notes is
strongly recommended.


Possible?  Theoretically, yes.  But, practically, I doubt it.  The
system is a 12 year old Thinkpad 240X with a 500MHz Pentium and 192MB
of RAM. When booting is complete and only the desktop (XFCE) is 
running,

it uses about 125MB of RAM. I don't think it has the resources for
anything more advance than Etch really.  And then there's the problem 
of

drivers for the old hardware.

B


I have a very old computer too. I will not claim to use it on a daily 
basis of course (I have only 2 arms, so I can not manage all my 3 
keyboards :p) but it is running perfectly on what is now old-stable. I 
think I will use that box as a jukebox when I'll be able to pass some 
network cables in my walls.


When I took possession of that computer, there were 64MB of RAM, a 10GB 
hard-drive, a windows 2000 NT OS and a sticker (is it the good word?) 
which claimed it is "designed for windows Me". I think it gives you an 
idea of the power of that thing... Now, I've replaced the HD by a 40 or 
80 GB one (I do not remember exactly) and have added 128MB or ram (so, 
it now have 192MB) and it works correctly.


However, I did not installed XFCE, but i3, and no desktop environment, 
as on all my systems. So, I think you could at least try to clean the 
installation, maybe first try on a live cd :)



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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Lu, 06 mai 13, 10:43:02, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > 
> > > Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective
> > > wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and
> > > 'dist-upgrade' only if really required (e.g. packages not
> > > upgraded).
> > 
> >http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting
> 
> Not anymore (hint: it's a wiki, so I took the liberty to change it).

From my reading, other than this wiki, 'dist-upgrade' is the
"recommended" method for upgrading Testing as it progresses toward
Stable. At which point, if you decide to stay with it as Stable, you
switch to 'upgrade'. Your sources should have been set to the release's
name and not 'testing', if this was your ultimate intention.  If,
however, you're staying with Testing, that is, your apt sources are set
to 'testing', you would continue to use 'dist-upgrade', and for all
practical purposes, Testing becomes a "rolling" release, of sorts.

Of course, this is a general recommendation.  I'm sure there are plenty
of exceptions.  But note:  I used 'dist-upgrade' for months without
problems as Wheezy progressed toward its stable designation.  Now that
it is, I will use 'upgrade' instead.  My apt sources have always been
set to "wheezy".

B


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Re: business card image, where?

[Brian]

On Tue 07 May 2013 at 00:09:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Lu, 06 mai 13, 14:33:45, Paul Condon wrote:
> > >
> > Can this mini.iso be written to a USB memory stick, as well as to a
> > blank CD?
> 
> You already have a reference for that. Something that is not widely 
> known about the mini.iso is that it can also be written on the 
> to-be-installed media ;)

Which includes the USB stick the ISO is on. So you can boot d-i from the
stick, provide needed firmware from the same stick and install to it.
Some would see that as value for money, :)

But beware! If dd, cat or cp is used to write the ISO to the stick GRUB
will not install on it because it detects the signature of an isohybrid.
The solution is

   dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX count=100

prior to partitioning. /dev/sdX is the USB stick. The wrong 'X' could
ruin your day.


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Jude DaShiell]

It's usually possible to have wheezy netinst image ask about nonfree 
packages but a couple things need doing first.  Either use expert as a 
boot parameter or a ways down into install hit (<) followed by enter a 
few times and get back out to the main menu where you'll have to key in 
numbers to make your selections.  Once there, adjust debconf priority 
down to low and then continue with the installation process from the 
main menu.  For speakup users, wheezy doesn't do anything with any 
parameters after the s is typed and puts us in a beginer mode for 
installation.  I finally found that (< cr) combination and found what it 
does.

On Tue, 7 May 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:

> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:21:24PM -0500, Default User wrote:
> > Hello.
> > 
> > I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the
> > debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.
> > 
> > In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted
> > to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The
> > install went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.
> > 
> > If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
> > did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing
> > contrib and non-free stuff?  
> 
> What's missing? AFAIU, anything that is in main doesn't require anything
> from contrib or non-free -- if it did then it wouldn't be in main.
> 
> So if you explicitly want a package from contrib or non-free then, yes,
> of course you'll need to enable them in your /etc/apt/sources.list,
> then do an explict "apt-get install package-not-in-main"
> 
> IOW, just enabling them in your /etc/apt/sources.list then doing "apt-get
> update" followed by "apt-get upgrade" shouldn't pull in any extra
> packages. 
> 
> > And would that mess up the already installed system?
> 
> No. They should all coexist peacefully together, but you may not need to
> enable the "contrib" and "non-free" repositories if you are already
> happy with your system. 
> 
> 

---
jude 
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Berners-lee would do.


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Re: anyone using shell-fm?

[Wayne Topa]

On 05/06/2013 06:46 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I'm having no luck setting this package up to work on Debian and really 
> would prefer to avoid windows for use of lastfm.  The problem I'm having 
> is when shell-fm tries to connect, the site it uses generates an error 
> 403.  Is the site that shell-fm tries to connect to the only possible 
> connection or are there others available to try?
> 
> 
> 
> --- 
> jude  About to block another web browser version?  
> Ask yourself what Tim Berners-lee would do.
> 
> 
A google search for "Debian Last fm setup howto "2013"" returns this as
the 2nd answer.


HTH
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RE: RE: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[Mark Allums]

> Gnome-session-fallback is installed.  Classic Gnome is in the
> login menu.  My comments relate to that.
> 
> Not sure what you mean by 'default profile'.  My guess
> is ~/.bashrc since I don't have a ~/.profile.  I think the
> relevant section of ~/.bashrc is:
> 
> # enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
> if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then
> eval "`dircolors -b`"
> alias ls='ls --color=auto'
> alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
> #alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
> fi
> 
> Thanks for the reply

The X terminal emulators themselves can have multiple profiles for different 
tasks, they are normally loaded, modified, and saved using the menu, typically 
Edit, Tools, Terminal, Options, Preferences, or Profiles. Then a choice under 
one of those menus.

Gnome's is under Edit|Profile Preferences|Colors tab, and uncheck the box next 
to "Use colors from system theme".

YYMV,

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anyone using shell-fm?

[Jude DaShiell]

I'm having no luck setting this package up to work on Debian and really 
would prefer to avoid windows for use of lastfm.  The problem I'm having 
is when shell-fm tries to connect, the site it uses generates an error 
403.  Is the site that shell-fm tries to connect to the only possible 
connection or are there others available to try?



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Re: Debian in the sunshine?

[Brad Alexander]

 I have had pretty good luck using my Nokia N900 in the sunshine. I have
been known to read using FBreader on it, as well as using other apps. Now
my preference is white text on a black background, but that seems to work
out pretty well...

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On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> I'm a long-time user of Debian, and also have an e-paper ebook reader.
> It occurs to me that something like a Debian laptop with an e-ink screen
> would be extremely useful, for, say, sitting on a sunny back porch in the
> summer and programming -- a situation where the normal luminous screens
> are a complete washout.  No, I don't expect to be able to watch videos on
> an e-ink screen.  But the kind of (non)dynamism that occurs when editing
> code in emacs should be easily achievable.
>
> Anybody know of any hardware that could be used (or, if necessary,
> abused) for this purpose?  Preferably with bog-standard Debian?
>
> -- hendrik
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Re: GNOME 3 issue - Evolution is offline due to a network outage

[sue]

hello the man who helps me usually is away at present, can you tell me
step y step how to reconnect the network

thanks

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Re: business card image, where?

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Lu, 06 mai 13, 14:33:45, Paul Condon wrote:
> >
> Can this mini.iso be written to a USB memory stick, as well as to a
> blank CD?

You already have a reference for that. Something that is not widely 
known about the mini.iso is that it can also be written on the 
to-be-installed media ;)

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Re: Debian in the sunshine?

[Glenn English]

On May 6, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Carl Fink wrote:

> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:54:58PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> 
>> The only sunlight-readable display on a general purpose
>> computing device capable of running Debian of which I am aware
>> [deep breath] is the OLPC XO-1 (and 1.5, 1.75).
> 
> Which is not actually "available" for normal values of, unless you're a poor
> student in certain countries.

I'm not a student, and I'm not significantly poor, but I do live in a certain 
country. And I have an OLPC XO-1. (Remember a few years ago when everybody was 
excited about the OLPC, and they offered them on a buy-2-get-one deal? It's a 
well designed machine, for its day, but the OS leaves a little to be desired.)

I didn't know Debian would run on this. What flavors of Debian can be installed 
on this Mark 1 OLPC? And is just plugging an external CD player into the USB 
connector enough to get it to work? And is its odd networking a problem using a 
netInstall CD?

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Re: Upgrade, grub errors and release notes

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Lu, 06 mai 13, 11:17:11, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
> 
> 
> There have been reports about grub errors when upgrading from
> Squeeze to Wheezy. This occurs hen using a 'special' filesystem such
> as raid or lvm. EG;
> 
> ~# grub-install /dev/sda /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Your core.img
> is unusually large.  It won't fit in the embedding area..
> /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is
> required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume.
> 
> This is caused by a core.img > 31232 bytes. The solution is to start
> the first partition at the 2nd cylinder or further.
> There is nothing about this in the release notes. Does this mean
> that this problem no longer exists? Or is it a release notes bug?

Does this happen for default/common/etc LVM/RAID setups? If it only 
happens in some unusual combination then it's probably not worth 
documenting it in the Release Notes (but a bug against the correct 
packages would still make sense).

Otherwise feel free to ask on -doc or even open a bug against the 
package release-notes. Do provide an accurate (reproducible) description 
of the problem and if possible also suggested text for inclusion (or 
even a patch).

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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Lu, 06 mai 13, 10:43:02, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > 
> > Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective wisdom
> > on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade'
> > only if really required (e.g. packages not upgraded).
> 
>http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting

Not anymore (hint: it's a wiki, so I took the liberty to change it).
 
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Re: business card image, where?

[Thierry Chatelet]

The Monday 06 May 2013 22:33:45, Paul Condon wrote :
> On 05/06/2013 07:32 AM, Brian wrote:
> > On Mon 06 May 2013 at 06:40:08 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:
> >> On 05/06/2013 05:57 AM, Brian wrote:
> >>> On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:
>  I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
>  boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
>  of the hot links there. What is
>  the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
>  onto a blank CD?
> >>> 
> >>> It is no longer produced.
> >> 
> >> I hope it can be revived. It has been a useful tool for me when my
> >> attempts to dist-upgrade fail, as they usually do.
> > 
> > It is very, very unlikely it will be.
> > 
> >> My 6.0.4 business card, worked at getting me running on wheezy, and
> >> even offered to install 'jessie', or 'squeeze', which it called 'old
> >> stable'. The beauty of business card is that the facts of what is to
> >> be downloaded are not burnt into the physical CD. I hope I can find
> >> a copy of the old iso image in the rubble of my old system.
> > 
> > The netboot mini.iso should suit your desire for beauty. It can be seen
> > as basically the businesscard ISO without the installer components.
> 
> Can this mini.iso be written to a USB memory stick, as well as to a
> blank CD?
> What program do I use? Surely not wodim,
> Perhaps 'dd'. When I plug in the stick that I want to use, it indicates
> that there is already a partition on it, i.e. there is both
> /dev/sdg and
> /dev/sdg1.
> Which should I use for the of=???
> If not 'dd'. What program?
> 
> 
> TIA

Some reading:
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en
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Re: business card image, where?

[Paul Condon]

On 05/06/2013 07:32 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 06:40:08 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:


On 05/06/2013 05:57 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:


I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
of the hot links there. What is
the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
onto a blank CD?

It is no longer produced.



I hope it can be revived. It has been a useful tool for me when my
attempts to dist-upgrade fail, as they usually do.

It is very, very unlikely it will be.


My 6.0.4 business card, worked at getting me running on wheezy, and
even offered to install 'jessie', or 'squeeze', which it called 'old
stable'. The beauty of business card is that the facts of what is to
be downloaded are not burnt into the physical CD. I hope I can find
a copy of the old iso image in the rubble of my old system.

The netboot mini.iso should suit your desire for beauty. It can be seen
as basically the businesscard ISO without the installer components.


Can this mini.iso be written to a USB memory stick, as well as to a 
blank CD?

What program do I use? Surely not wodim,
Perhaps 'dd'. When I plug in the stick that I want to use, it indicates 
that there is already a partition on it, i.e. there is both

/dev/sdg and
/dev/sdg1.
Which should I use for the of=???
If not 'dd'. What program?


TIA



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Re: failed to install xserver-xorg-core

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Montag, 6. Mai 2013 schrieb Brad Rogers:
> On Mon, 6 May 2013 14:47:57 -0400
> Kejia柯嘉  wrote:
> 
> Hello Kejia柯嘉,
> 
> >I purged the nvidia driver and re-installed it (by nvidia-installer).
> >But the nouveau module is still loaded even if I did everything
> >indicated here:
> >http://www.pimp-my-rig.com/2012/01/unload-nouveau-install-nvidia-driver.ht
> >ml.
> 
> That site tells you how to be rid of nouveau.  It doesn't tell you how
> to get nVidia going.  You need a minimal xorg.conf file, at the very
> least, thus;
> 

You can either delete the kernel module (bad way), or blacklist iit. Look at 
/etc(modprobe.d/ and you will find other blacklisted modules.

Just create a new one with the syntax like the othr files.

Good luck!

Hans


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bluetooth problem

[andrey . rybak]

Hi
i have problem with bluetooth
blueoothd is working.
applet in gnome3 is presented.
It shows that bluetooth is on but i can not switch on visibility.
blutooth setting dialog box can be opened but everything in this dialog is
disabled
What should i do?
bluetooth device is presented in my host

# hcitool scan
Device is not available: No such device

thanks in advance


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Re: failed to install xserver-xorg-core

[Brad Rogers]

On Mon, 6 May 2013 14:47:57 -0400
Kejia柯嘉  wrote:

Hello Kejia柯嘉,

>I purged the nvidia driver and re-installed it (by nvidia-installer).
>But the nouveau module is still loaded even if I did everything
>indicated here:
>http://www.pimp-my-rig.com/2012/01/unload-nouveau-install-nvidia-driver.html.

That site tells you how to be rid of nouveau.  It doesn't tell you how
to get nVidia going.  You need a minimal xorg.conf file, at the very
least, thus;


Section "Device"
Identifier "Device0"
Driver "nvidia"
VendorName "NVIDIA Corporation"
EndSection


>And now the desktop environment cannot display.

Probably because of the above.

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Re: how to disable nouveau module totally?

[Carl Fink]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 03:26:51PM -0400, Kejia?? wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I upgraded my system from squeeze to wheezy, but now no desktop
> environment is displayed. I tried to install nvidia's driver, but
> cannot disable the nouveau module. I tried everything list
> here:http://www.pimp-my-rig.com/2012/01/unload-nouveau-install-nvidia-driver.html.

When I installed nVidia's driver, it automatically replaced nouveau. I
didn't have to remove it or anything. What install method are you using?
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how to disable nouveau module totally?

[Kejia柯嘉]

Hi,

I upgraded my system from squeeze to wheezy, but now no desktop
environment is displayed. I tried to install nvidia's driver, but
cannot disable the nouveau module. I tried everything list
here:http://www.pimp-my-rig.com/2012/01/unload-nouveau-install-nvidia-driver.html.

Now what should I do?

-
Daniel

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Re: backports for wheezy ?

[Erwan David]

Le 06/05/2013 21:11, Andreas Rönnquist a écrit :

On Mon, 06 May 2013 20:34:31 +0200,
Erwan David wrote:


What should we put in sources.list for backports for wheezy ?
deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib
non-free is not found.




Se here:
http://backports.debian.org/news/Backports_integrated_into_the_main_archive/

and in short:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main



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Re: backports for wheezy ?

[Andreas Rönnquist]

On Mon, 06 May 2013 20:34:31 +0200,
Erwan David wrote:

>What should we put in sources.list for backports for wheezy ?
>deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib
>non-free is not found.
>
>
>

Se here:
http://backports.debian.org/news/Backports_integrated_into_the_main_archive/

and in short:
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main



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Re: backports for wheezy ?

[Wayne Topa]

On 05/06/2013 02:34 PM, Erwan David wrote:
> What should we put in sources.list for backports for wheezy ?
> deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
> is not found.
> 
> 
> 

http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-linux-upgrade-6-squeeze-to-7-wheezy/


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Re: failed to install xserver-xorg-core

[Kejia柯嘉]

Hi Hans,

Thank you very much for the help.

I purged the nvidia driver and re-installed it (by nvidia-installer).
But the nouveau module is still loaded even if I did everything
indicated here:
http://www.pimp-my-rig.com/2012/01/unload-nouveau-install-nvidia-driver.html.

And now the desktop environment cannot display.


Daniel


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2013/5/6 Hans-J. Ullrich :
> Am Montag, 6. Mai 2013 schrieb Kejia柯嘉:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried to upgrade squeez to wheezy, but lost gui. I guess it is
>> necessary to re-install xserver-xorg-core, but failed to do that:
>> ``
>> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   xserver-xorg-core
>> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0 B/1762 kB of archives.
>> After this operation, 4258 kB of additional disk space will be used.
>> (Reading database ... 280332 files and directories currently installed.)
>> Unpacking xserver-xorg-core (from
>> .../xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb) ...
>> dpkg: error processing
>> /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
>> (--unpack):
>>  unable to create `/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libglx.so.dpkg-new'
>> (while processing `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'): No
>> such file or directory
>> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
>> Processing triggers for man-db ...
>> Processing triggers for libglx-nvidia-alternatives ...
>> Errors were encountered while processing:
>>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
>> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>> ''
>> Any clues?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> 
>> Daniel
>>
>> ☵☯☲
> Looks like nvidia package is blocking things. Try to uninstall nvidia
> packages, then try again and reinstall nvidia packages.
>
> If you get in trouble with 32-bit graphical applications like googleearth, I
> suggest not to use the nvidia packages, but the nvidia-installer from nvidia's
> site.
>
> However, if you do so, do not forget to purge debian nvidia-packages during
> uninstall.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Hans
>


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Brian]

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 12:21:24 -0500, Default User wrote:

> Hello.
> 
> I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the
> debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.
> 
> In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted
> to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The
> install went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.

You omitted to mention the crucial point that you pressed 'Install' at
d-i's boot screen. If only you had chosen 'Expert'.

Debian assumes you are installing this OS because of its Freeness. Why
should it bother telling you about non-free software (which is not part
of the distribution) when you have chosen not to ask it.


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RE: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Mark Allums]

> What's missing? AFAIU, anything that is in main doesn't require anything
> from contrib or non-free -- if it did then it wouldn't be in main.

Mainly, non-free firmware binaries.




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Re: RE: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[rlwbonsai]

Gnome-session-fallback is installed.  Classic Gnome is in the
login menu.  My comments relate to that.

Not sure what you mean by 'default profile'.  My guess
is ~/.bashrc since I don't have a ~/.profile.  I think the
relevant section of ~/.bashrc is:

# enable color support of ls and also add handy aliases
if [ "$TERM" != "dumb" ]; then
eval "`dircolors -b`"
alias ls='ls --color=auto'
alias dir='ls --color=auto --format=vertical'
#alias vdir='ls --color=auto --format=long'
fi

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backports for wheezy ?

[Erwan David]

What should we put in sources.list for backports for wheezy ?
deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free
is not found.



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Re: failed to install xserver-xorg-core

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Montag, 6. Mai 2013 schrieb Kejia柯嘉:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried to upgrade squeez to wheezy, but lost gui. I guess it is
> necessary to re-install xserver-xorg-core, but failed to do that:
> ``
> apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   xserver-xorg-core
> 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0 B/1762 kB of archives.
> After this operation, 4258 kB of additional disk space will be used.
> (Reading database ... 280332 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking xserver-xorg-core (from
> .../xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
> (--unpack):
>  unable to create `/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libglx.so.dpkg-new'
> (while processing `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'): No
> such file or directory
> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Processing triggers for man-db ...
> Processing triggers for libglx-nvidia-alternatives ...
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
> ''
> Any clues?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Daniel
> 
> ☵☯☲
Looks like nvidia package is blocking things. Try to uninstall nvidia 
packages, then try again and reinstall nvidia packages. 

If you get in trouble with 32-bit graphical applications like googleearth, I 
suggest not to use the nvidia packages, but the nvidia-installer from nvidia's 
site.

However, if you do so, do not forget to purge debian nvidia-packages during 
uninstall.

Good luck! 

Hans


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Brad Rogers]

On Mon, 6 May 2013 12:21:24 -0500
Default User  wrote:

Hello Default,

>In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user
>wanted to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this
>time.  The install went okay, but only included packages from the main
>repository.

I was asked whether I wanted to use those sections when installing Wheezy
less than a week ago.  I was using the "graphical expert install" mode.
Maybe the question doesn't get asked in some of the other modes.

>If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list,
>and did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing

You can add contrib & non-free repos without issue.  It won't install
anything until you specify what you want.

>contrib and non-free stuff?  And would that mess up the already
>installed system?

It /shouldn't/, but I offer no guarantee.

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Re: Re: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[rlwbonsai]

This is my sources.list

# 
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot
i386 Binary-1 ( 20060314)]/ etch main


#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot
i386 Binary-1 (20060314)]/ etch main #deb
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian squeeze  main contrib #deb-src
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian squeeze main contrib 

deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian wheezy  main contrib 
deb-src http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian wheezy main contrib 

#deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
non-free #deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates
main contrib non-free

#deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main
#deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main

#deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile/
squeeze/volatile main contrib non-free

#deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian squeeze-updates main

Thanks for the reply.


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[UEFI wheezy Installation]Black Screen at the beginning

[Berillions]

Hi,

I already opened a bug report (see bug #706789) but i haven't answers for
the moment. So i send this message to know if someone had this problem.

I know that in this page (
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata) a problem with UEFI
and Debian installer for AMD64 systems.

Explainations about Win7 and Wheezy installation with UEFI mode :

1- I have a laptop bought in summer 2011~ and the UEFI mode is disabled by
default. I wanted to install Win7 and Debian Wheezy with UEFI mode for
tests and find bug.

2- I enabled UEFI mode in my BIOS, i choose to boot on my DVD drive with
UEFI mode and I was able to install without problems Win7 EFI mode.

3- To install Wheezy RC3, i used a USB Key. In the BIOS, i see correctly
the UEFI mode for the USB Key and i choose to boot it in the first one.

4- When i boot on the USB key, i have a message which appears during 1s = Error
: prefix is not set
After this message, the installer main menu appears so i can choose between
"Install","Graphic Install", "Expert Install" etc...
The problem is here, if i choose one of these options, i have a black
screen and i can't install Wheezy. I tried all options for the same result.

5- The only solution to install wheezy is to install it with UEFI mode
disabled

Thanks,
Max

failed to install xserver-xorg-core

[Kejia柯嘉]

Hi,

I tried to upgrade squeez to wheezy, but lost gui. I guess it is
necessary to re-install xserver-xorg-core, but failed to do that:
``
apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  xserver-xorg-core
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/1762 kB of archives.
After this operation, 4258 kB of additional disk space will be used.
(Reading database ... 280332 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking xserver-xorg-core (from
.../xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing
/var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
(--unpack):
 unable to create `/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libglx.so.dpkg-new'
(while processing `./usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so'): No
such file or directory
dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Processing triggers for libglx-nvidia-alternatives ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/xserver-xorg-core_2%3a1.12.4-6_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
''
Any clues?

Thanks.


Daniel

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Re: md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Andreas Rönnquist wrote:

On Mon, 06 May 2013 12:50:58 -0500,
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Hi,

Where does one find the md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso?

Hugo


Its available in the MD5SUMS file in the same folder as the ISO:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS



thanks, Andreas, Chris

Hugo


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Re: md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[Thilo Six]

Hello Hugo,


Excerpt from Hugo Vanwoerkom:

> Hi,
> 
> Where does one find the md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso?
> 
> Hugo

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS.sign

The file MD5SUMS contains quit a lot of md5sums, you need scroll down/grep it.
In this directory you will also find files with more reliable hashes in case you
are interested.

Happy installing!

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Re: md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[Andreas Rönnquist]

On Mon, 06 May 2013 12:50:58 -0500,
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Where does one find the md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso?
>
>Hugo

Its available in the MD5SUMS file in the same folder as the ISO:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

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Re: md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:50:58PM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Where does one find the md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso?

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/MD5SUMS

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Re: Debian in the sunshine?

[Carl Fink]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:54:58PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:

> The only sunlight-readable display on a general purpose
> computing device capable of running Debian of which I am aware
> [deep breath] is the OLPC XO-1 (and 1.5, 1.75).

Which is not actually "available" for normal values of, unless you're a poor
student in certain countries.
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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> [forgot I wanted to comment on the other paragraph as well]
> 
> On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > 
> > I never use the "Stable" name any more.  Learned my lesson a
> > few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to
> > "Stable"--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new
> > "Stable".  I ended up with a hybrid system, a mix of Etch and
> > Lenny.  Amazingly, it still worked. And still does. However, I
> > never 'apt-get upgraded' again for fear of trashing it.
> 
> It should be possible to upgrade it completely to lenny and then
> squeeze and then wheezy. Reading the corresponding Release Notes is
> strongly recommended.

Possible?  Theoretically, yes.  But, practically, I doubt it.  The
system is a 12 year old Thinkpad 240X with a 500MHz Pentium and 192MB
of RAM. When booting is complete and only the desktop (XFCE) is running,
it uses about 125MB of RAM. I don't think it has the resources for
anything more advance than Etch really.  And then there's the problem of
drivers for the old hardware.

B 


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md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hi,

Where does one find the md5sum for debian-7.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso?

Hugo


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 12:21:24PM -0500, Default User wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the
> debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.
> 
> In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted
> to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The
> install went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.
> 
> If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
> did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing
> contrib and non-free stuff?  

What's missing? AFAIU, anything that is in main doesn't require anything
from contrib or non-free -- if it did then it wouldn't be in main.

So if you explicitly want a package from contrib or non-free then, yes,
of course you'll need to enable them in your /etc/apt/sources.list,
then do an explict "apt-get install package-not-in-main"

IOW, just enabling them in your /etc/apt/sources.list then doing "apt-get
update" followed by "apt-get upgrade" shouldn't pull in any extra
packages. 

> And would that mess up the already installed system?

No. They should all coexist peacefully together, but you may not need to
enable the "contrib" and "non-free" repositories if you are already
happy with your system. 

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[no subject]

[andrey . rybak]

Hi
i have problem with bluetooth
blueoothd is working.
applet in gnome3 is presented.
but i can not enable bluetooth connections.
also bluthooth icon in system preference can not be turned on. When i come
in the blutooth icon everythinng is grayed in dialog box that opened.
What should i do?
bluetooth device is presented in my host


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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Patrick Bartek]

On Mon, 06 May 2013, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > 
> > All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for
> > upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install manual
> > while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable, 'upgrade' is
> > the recommended method.
> 
> Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective wisdom
> on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and 'dist-upgrade'
> only if really required (e.g. packages not upgraded).

   http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting

This now refers to Jessie, since its the new Testing, instead of
Wheezy, but otherwise it is the same, and ONLY applies when upgrading a
Testing status OS.

After reading this I did some more research--I no longer have those
links--and it was recommended to use 'dist-upgrade' for upgrading while
the OS is still Testing to be assured that it is fully upgraded, which
'upgrade' can fail to do, then when it becomes Stable to revert to
'upgrade' to maintain its "stable" state.

At least, that's my understanding of the process.

B


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RE: Debian in the sunshine?

[Mark Allums]

 
> I'm a long-time user of Debian, and also have an e-paper ebook reader.
> It occurs to me that something like a Debian laptop with an e-ink screen
> would be extremely useful, for, say, sitting on a sunny back porch in the
> summer and programming -- a situation where the normal luminous screens
> are a complete washout.  No, I don't expect to be able to watch videos on
> an e-ink screen.  But the kind of (non)dynamism that occurs when editing
> code in emacs should be easily achievable.
> 
> Anybody know of any hardware that could be used (or, if necessary,
> abused) for this purpose?  Preferably with bog-standard Debian?
> 
> -- hendrik

Jailbroken Kindles can be repurposed in theory, as they run Linux, but Debian 
is doubtful.  They run Amazon's code, not Android.  The Kindle 3, still 
available, has a limited keyboard, and I suppose you could hack a real USB 
keyboard onto it with some kind of black box, but it would be a hobby, a labor 
of love, not anything useful.  You can ssh into a Kindle, but that would not be 
answering your question.  Using the radio is a big, fat VERBOTEN. 





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RE: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Mark Allums]

Hello.  
I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the 
debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.  

In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted to 
include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The install 
went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.  

If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and did 
apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing contrib and 
non-free stuff?  And would that mess up the already installed system?


Yes, but no, and probably not.  Yes the non-dfsg stuff would become available, 
no it would not automatically install anything, you will have to add those 
yourself, and it would not mess up anything, since nothing changes except some 
packages would become installable using apt-get that weren't available before.



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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Patrick Bartek]

On Sun, 05 May 2013, Carl Fink wrote:

> On Sun, May 05, 2013 at 07:30:00PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> 
> > I never use the "Stable" name any more.  Learned my lesson a
> > few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to
> > "Stable"--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new
> > "Stable".  I ended up with a hybrid system, a mix of Etch and
> > Lenny.  Amazingly, it still worked. And still does. However, I
> > never 'apt-get upgraded' again for fear of trashing it.
> 
> That's really odd. Reinstalling Debian from scratch only takes an
> hour at most, after all. (I use dpkg --get-selections >
> selections.txt to record which packages I had installed.)

This was years ago--7 or so--on a Thinkpad 240X (500MHz Pentium &
192MB RAM) that was already 5+ years old at the time. Installing Debian
or any OS on it wasn't a simple process. It would only boot off the hard
drive or floppy.  So, you started with a boot floppy, loaded drivers
off another two floppies, and the install would then switch and
continue off the install CD. Unfortunately, Etch didn't have the proper
CD drivers on its driver disk, but Sarge did. So, I did a base install
of Sarge, then a distribution upgrade to a base install of Etch which
was not a simple process. It involved manually deleting files,
changing configs, etc. before even starting the upgrade.  Otherwise,
the upgrade would fail.  Quite a process.  But there were excellent
step-by-step instructions in Debian's Upgrade instructions, so it went
smoothly. I then completed the process by installing the rest of the
system app by app, including X and XFCE.

Took several hours to complete, and I had no desire to repeat it.  So,
after the upgrade debacle a year or so later with system ending up a mix
of Etch and Lenny, I left the system as it was.  And that's where it
remains today. Amazingly, I still use it on a regular basis.

B


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Re: wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[andrey . rybak]

it should be ok


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wheezy install missing contrib and non-free

[Default User]

Hello.

I did a fresh install of Debian 7.0.0 (Wheezy), using the
debian-7.0.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso.

In the past , during the install process, it would ask if the user wanted
to include the contrib and non-free repositiories.  Not this time.  The
install went okay, but only included packages from the main repository.

If I manually added "contrib" and non-free" to /etc/apt/sources.list, and
did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade, would that add the missing
contrib and non-free stuff?  And would that mess up the already installed
system?

Re: Debian in the sunshine?

[Dan Ritter]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 04:07:04PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I'm a long-time user of Debian, and also have an e-paper ebook reader.  
> It occurs to me that something like a Debian laptop with an e-ink screen 
> would be extremely useful, for, say, sitting on a sunny back porch in the 
> summer and programming -- a situation where the normal luminous screens 
> are a complete washout.  No, I don't expect to be able to watch videos on 
> an e-ink screen.  But the kind of (non)dynamism that occurs when editing 
> code in emacs should be easily achievable.
> 
> Anybody know of any hardware that could be used (or, if necessary, 
> abused) for this purpose?  Preferably with bog-standard Debian?
> 

The only sunlight-readable display on a general purpose
computing device capable of running Debian of which I am aware
[deep breath] is the OLPC XO-1 (and 1.5, 1.75).

-dsr-


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Re: business card image, where?

[Paul Condon]

On 05/06/2013 07:32 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 06:40:08 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:


On 05/06/2013 05:57 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:


I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
of the hot links there. What is
the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
onto a blank CD?

It is no longer produced.



I hope it can be revived. It has been a useful tool for me when my
attempts to dist-upgrade fail, as they usually do.

It is very, very unlikely it will be.


My 6.0.4 business card, worked at getting me running on wheezy, and
even offered to install 'jessie', or 'squeeze', which it called 'old
stable'. The beauty of business card is that the facts of what is to
be downloaded are not burnt into the physical CD. I hope I can find
a copy of the old iso image in the rubble of my old system.

The netboot mini.iso should suit your desire for beauty. It can be seen
as basically the businesscard ISO without the installer components.


I think mini.iso will solve my problem. I've tried it on my equipment 
and ran through a trial install up to the point where it asked for a 
commit to writing a new format on my computer's hard disk. Every step of 
the way the questions asked were exactly the same. The basic similarity 
is pretty good, and it even has a shorter name, saving disk space in the 
directory, and clutter on the terminal screen. ;-) I had always felt the 
old name didn't indicate its real value.


Thanks.


Thanks

Thanks


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Re: Partially encrypted backup?

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello,

On 06/05/13 18:15, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I'm currently using rdiff-backup onto removable USB drives for backup.  I 
> don not encrypt them now because I'm terrified of losing the encryption 
> key and hence losing access to my backups.
> 
> I'm planning to trade backup drives with an acquaintance for off-site 
> backups.  I trust her, but I don't trust not every random person who 
> lives in her house or visits.
> 
> Is there any way of doing the backup partially encrypted so that files 
> are encrypted only if not world-readable?

I have gone through similar thoughts:
if you trust her, them just by her a box with concreted lock in such a way
the backups not need to be encrypted.
An other idea would be put in the box a small computer with a big hard drive
and ssh you backup to it (and hide the box near a kind a honey pot).


Jerome

> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[Mark Allums]

> -Gnome 3 will not run.  Default Gnome is very limited in this
> machine.

Make sure Gnome's "Classic" mode (AKA, fallback mode) is installed. There is a 
package for that.  Consider installing MATE instead (Google for it.) They 
recently released a new version which runs very smoothly.  MATE is a fork of 
Gnome 2, and there is a repository to install it using apt-get (it is not an 
official Debian package---yet.) 

> -xfce runs OK but the default terminal has no prompt.  Changing
> to each of the three rxvt versions will crash X when started.
> xterm will work.

Look under the default profile and check the colors.  



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Partially encrypted backup?

[Hendrik Boom]

I'm currently using rdiff-backup onto removable USB drives for backup.  I 
don not encrypt them now because I'm terrified of losing the encryption 
key and hence losing access to my backups.

I'm planning to trade backup drives with an acquaintance for off-site 
backups.  I trust her, but I don't trust not every random person who 
lives in her house or visits.

Is there any way of doing the backup partially encrypted so that files 
are encrypted only if not world-readable?

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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[staticsafe]

On 5/6/2013 12:00, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:45:30AM -0400, staticsafe wrote:
>> Hmm, I'm following this -
>> http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
>> - as an upgrade guide.
>>
>> It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your sources of
>> course).
> 
> Umm, that'll be second, `apt-get update` would be first. :) SCNR
> 

Yes of course, shouldn't start replying to e-mails before I've had my
breakfast and tea. :)

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Debian in the sunshine?

[Hendrik Boom]

I'm a long-time user of Debian, and also have an e-paper ebook reader.  
It occurs to me that something like a Debian laptop with an e-ink screen 
would be extremely useful, for, say, sitting on a sunny back porch in the 
summer and programming -- a situation where the normal luminous screens 
are a complete washout.  No, I don't expect to be able to watch videos on 
an e-ink screen.  But the kind of (non)dynamism that occurs when editing 
code in emacs should be easily achievable.

Anybody know of any hardware that could be used (or, if necessary, 
abused) for this purpose?  Preferably with bog-standard Debian?

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Re: Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:14:39AM -0400, rlwbonsai wrote:
> I attempted to upgrade my Averatec 3200 laptop from Squeeze to
> Wheezy on 5/5/13.  The laptop has an AMD Athlon 486 processor
> and Unichrome graphics.  The only non-Debian software
> installed on this machine is Mozilla Firefox.  This laptop has
> successfully run Sarge, Etch, Lenny and Squeeze and was
> successfully upgraded to Squeeze following the instructions in
> the Debian.org site. The following problems occurred during the
> upgrade to Wheezy:
> 
> -the upgrade stopped twice because of errors, once for libav-?
> and once for libreoffice-?
> 
> -I had to issue the command 'apt-get install -f' two separate
> times to get the upgrade completed, in addition to issuing the
> command 'apt-get dist-upgrade' two times in the middle of the
> upgrade.

Can you show us your /etc/apt/sources.list file?

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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 08:45:30AM -0400, staticsafe wrote:
> Hmm, I'm following this -
> http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
> - as an upgrade guide.
> 
> It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your sources of
> course).

Umm, that'll be second, `apt-get update` would be first. :) SCNR

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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Released

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, May 06, 2013 at 09:23:44AM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > 
> > I never use the "Stable" name any more.  Learned my lesson a
> > few years ago when I upgraded an install of Etch--sources set to
> > "Stable"--not realizing that Lenny had just become the new "Stable".  I
> > ended up with a hybrid system, a mix of Etch and Lenny.  Amazingly, it
> > still worked. And still does. However, I never 'apt-get upgraded' again
> > for fear of trashing it.
> 
> It should be possible to upgrade it completely to lenny and then squeeze 
> and then wheezy. Reading the corresponding Release Notes is strongly 
> recommended.

I just did that recently for an old sarge system. One gotcha I
encountered was with the upgrade of vim, and no amount of googling
solved it for me. 

What happened was that the syntax highlighting and plugin detection
suddenly stopped working. Eventually I found that the cure was:
"mv /etc/vim/vimrc.dpkg-dist /etc/vim/vimrc"

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.packages.vim.devel/1685

I *just* found that link, looking for the proper "vimrc.dpkg-xxx" name!


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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Brian]

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 08:45:30 -0400, staticsafe wrote:

> On 5/6/2013 2:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >> 
> >> All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for
> >> upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install
> >> manual while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable,
> >> 'upgrade' is the recommended method.
> > 
> > Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective
> > wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and
> > 'dist-upgrade' only if really required (e.g. packages not
> > upgraded).
> > 
> > It's rare, but it may happen that 'dist-upgrade' is needed also on
> >  stable.
> > 
> > Kind regards, Andrei
> > 
> Hmm, I'm following this -
> http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
> - as an upgrade guide.
> 
> It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your sources of
> course).

I think Andrei is talking about upgrade vs dist-upgrade after Squeeze is
upgraded to Wheezy. Although I use dist-upgrade, I think either can be
used. A point release is not known for removing any packages from the
system.


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Re: Re: Can't install a Debian Wheezy system in a machine with hostraid 8051

[Carlos Terrón]

Hello Brian

This is the same issue (and I think the same motherboard than the Ubuntu report)

I'm going to fill the bug report

Thanks


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Upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy fails

[rlwbonsai]

I attempted to upgrade my Averatec 3200 laptop from Squeeze to
Wheezy on 5/5/13.  The laptop has an AMD Athlon 486 processor
and Unichrome graphics.  The only non-Debian software
installed on this machine is Mozilla Firefox.  This laptop has
successfully run Sarge, Etch, Lenny and Squeeze and was
successfully upgraded to Squeeze following the instructions in
the Debian.org site. The following problems occurred during the
upgrade to Wheezy:

-the upgrade stopped twice because of errors, once for libav-?
and once for libreoffice-?

-I had to issue the command 'apt-get install -f' two separate
times to get the upgrade completed, in addition to issuing the
command 'apt-get dist-upgrade' two times in the middle of the
upgrade.

-Gnome 3 will not run.  Default Gnome is very limited in this
machine.

-xfce runs OK but the default terminal has no prompt.  Changing
to each of the three rxvt versions will crash X when started.
xterm will work.


I upgraded the laptop first to see what would happen.  My main
computer is a desktop machine running Squeeze but also with
Unichrome graphics and and AMD Athlon 686 processor.  I will not
upgrade this desktop machine if it ends up like the laptop,
which is barely usable.

Richard Wilson


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Calculating optimal disk partitions

[craig]

Good morning all,

I am trying to add a partition to the unused space on a hard drive. Using 
parted, I keep getting "Warning: The resulting partition is not properly 
aligned for best performance." There is not a whole lot of explanation out 
there that explains the calculations necessary to determine the sector numbers 
to use for starting and ending a partition to avoid this message, but what I 
have found indicates the starting number should be a multiple of eight. All of 
the multiples of eight that I have tried still give me the error. Using the 
error phrase as a search term shows a lot of other people asking the same 
questions, but again not a lot of explanation for the underlying cause.

This 1TB disk reports both physical and logical sector sizes of 512 bytes each, 
and is currently partitioned with one extended partition that is made up of the 
entire disk. It has three existing logical partitions, and parted tells me the 
first two are aligned, and the third is not. I would like to leave the existing 
partitions as they are, and create one more optimally aligned partition. The 
existing layout is as follows, and an example of what I did in trying to create 
a 100GB partition:

$ sudo parted -a opt /dev/sdb
GNU Parted 2.3
Using /dev/sdb
Welcome to GNU Parted! Type 'help' to view a list of commands.
(parted) unit s
(parted) p
Model: ATA ST31000524AS (scsi)
Disk /dev/sdb: 1953525168s
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
Partition Table: msdos

Number  Start   End  Size Type  File system  Flags
 1  2048s   1953523711s  1953521664s  extended   lba
 5  4096s   683732991s   683728896s   logical
 6  683735040s  976762879s   293027840s   logical
 7  976762943s  1172081149s  195318207s   logical

(parted) mkpart
Partition type?  primary/logical? logical
File system type?  [ext2]?
Start? 1172083200
End? 1953523703
Warning: The resulting partition is not properly aligned for best performance.
Ignore/Cancel? c
(parted) q


Can anyone tell me what values I should use for the starting and ending sectors 
for the next partition so that I do not get the error message? Would anyone be 
willing to share the mathematical calculation that helps determine those values 
(I am assuming there is one since parted is able to make assertions based on 
something)? Is it possible that the physical sector size is 4096 bytes, and if 
so how would I determine that, and how does that affect things?

FWIW, at this point I don't care about the fact that partition 7 is not 
properly aligned, and I don't care if I have to leave some space unused. I just 
want to understand how to avoid the error while using as much of the available 
space as I can in an optimal manner.

Any light is appreciated.

Craig


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Re: business card image, where?

[Brian]

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 06:40:08 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:

> On 05/06/2013 05:57 AM, Brian wrote:
> >On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:
> >
> >>I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
> >>boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
> >>of the hot links there. What is
> >>the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
> >>onto a blank CD?
> >It is no longer produced.
> >
> >
> I hope it can be revived. It has been a useful tool for me when my
> attempts to dist-upgrade fail, as they usually do.

It is very, very unlikely it will be.
 
> My 6.0.4 business card, worked at getting me running on wheezy, and
> even offered to install 'jessie', or 'squeeze', which it called 'old
> stable'. The beauty of business card is that the facts of what is to
> be downloaded are not burnt into the physical CD. I hope I can find
> a copy of the old iso image in the rubble of my old system.

The netboot mini.iso should suit your desire for beauty. It can be seen
as basically the businesscard ISO without the installer components.


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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[francis picabia]

1.  Listen to the advice from knowledge.
2.  There is no guessing.  It really is documented how to upgrade.  Follow
instructions.

http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html

(or whatever link suits your platform)

If you follow this guide, and stop reading junk guesses and stories of
wierd results from mistaken assumptions, you will get somewhere.

Read the guide.  It contains the steps.  It really does.

Chapter 4 is called "Upgrades from Debian 6.0 (squeeze)" .  It really means
what it says.  You must read it before doing the upgrade, not after.

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[staticsafe]

On 5/6/2013 2:21, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 05 mai 13, 19:30:00, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>> 
>> All that's required now is to cease using 'dist-upgrade' for
>> upgrading. Dist-upgrade was recommended in the user install
>> manual while Wheezy was still Testing. Now, that it's Stable,
>> 'upgrade' is the recommended method.
> 
> Could you please provide a reference for that? The collective
> wisdom on this list recommends to always use 'upgrade' and
> 'dist-upgrade' only if really required (e.g. packages not
> upgraded).
> 
> It's rare, but it may happen that 'dist-upgrade' is needed also on
>  stable.
> 
> Kind regards, Andrei
> 
Hmm, I'm following this -
http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html
- as an upgrade guide.

It suggests `apt-get upgrade` first (after changes your sources of
course).

"In some cases, doing the full upgrade (as described below) directly
might remove large numbers of packages that you will want to keep. We
therefore recommend a two-part upgrade process: first a minimal
upgrade to overcome these conflicts, then a full upgrade as described
in Section 4.4.5, “Upgrading the system”. "

Then it tells you to complete the main part of the upgrade with
`apt-get dist-upgrade`

"This will perform a complete upgrade of the system, installing the
newest available versions of all packages, and resolving all possible
dependency changes between packages in different releases. If
necessary, it will install some new packages (usually new library
versions, or renamed packages), and remove any conflicting obsoleted
packages."

P.S - for people using aptitude -"The recommended way to upgrade from
previous Debian releases is to use the package management tool
apt-get. In previous releases, aptitude was recommended for this
purpose, but recent versions of apt-get provide equivalent
functionality and also have shown to more consistently give the
desired upgrade results."
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Re: business card image, where?

[Paul Condon]

On 05/06/2013 05:57 AM, Brian wrote:

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:


I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
of the hot links there. What is
the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
onto a blank CD?

It is no longer produced.


I hope it can be revived. It has been a useful tool for me when my 
attempts to dist-upgrade fail, as they usually do.


My 6.0.4 business card, worked at getting me running on wheezy, and even 
offered to install 'jessie', or 'squeeze', which it called 'old stable'. 
The beauty of business card is that the facts of what is to be 
downloaded are not burnt into the physical CD. I hope I can find a copy 
of the old iso image in the rubble of my old system.


Why do my dist-upgrades usually fail? User error, I suppose. Wrong 
choices in answering configuration questions, etc.



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Re: Can't install a Debian Wheezy system in a machine with hostraid 8051

[Brian]

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 12:46:51 +0200, Carlos Terrón wrote:

> I had a machine with a Softraid controller from Adaptec. Int ge BIOS
> screen I see HostRaid BIOS 8051. I pass the kernel parameter
> dmraid=true to use the raid in the install. the softraid is detected
> OK but can't read the disk, the error is:
> 
> /sbin/dmraid-activate: line 289: awk: not found
> 
> I'm using the debian-7.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso , with sha256 sum 
> fdfd3f89c0805a711654912e7f7b33b850bbf550de5729420ad61024fb0caab2 
> 
> I also logged  in the system via other console but the awk program is
> missing
> 
> Do you need more info?.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/879752

You may want to consider filing a bug report against d-i if this is the
same issue. 


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Re: business card image, where?

[Brian]

On Mon 06 May 2013 at 05:47:36 -0600, Paul Condon wrote:

> I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old
> boiler plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization
> of the hot links there. What is
> the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn
> onto a blank CD?

It is no longer produced.


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business card image, where?

[Paul Condon]

I want to make a 'business card' install CD as mentioned in old boiler 
plate at www.debian.org, but I can't fathom the organization of the hot 
links there. What is
the URL of the actual iso image that I need to download and burn onto a 
blank CD?


TAI


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Can't install a Debian Wheezy system in a machine with hostraid 8051

[Carlos Terrón]

Hello

I had a machine with a Softraid controller from Adaptec. Int ge BIOS screen I 
see HostRaid BIOS 8051. I pass the kernel parameter dmraid=true to use the raid 
in the install. the softraid is detected OK but can't read the disk, the error 
is:

/sbin/dmraid-activate: line 289: awk: not found

I'm using the debian-7.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso , with sha256 sum 
fdfd3f89c0805a711654912e7f7b33b850bbf550de5729420ad61024fb0caab2 

I also logged  in the system via other console but the awk program is missing

Do you need more info?. 

Thanks


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Upgrade, grub errors and release notes

[Rob van der Putten]

Hi there


There have been reports about grub errors when upgrading from Squeeze to 
Wheezy. This occurs hen using a 'special' filesystem such as raid or 
lvm. EG;


~# grub-install /dev/sda /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Your core.img is 
unusually large.  It won't fit in the embedding area..
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: embedding is not possible, but this is 
required when the root device is on a RAID array or LVM volume.


This is caused by a core.img > 31232 bytes. The solution is to start the 
first partition at the 2nd cylinder or further.
There is nothing about this in the release notes. Does this mean that 
this problem no longer exists? Or is it a release notes bug?



Regards,
Rob


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Re: Debian with S/PDIF Toslink digital audio input on the Apple G5-PowerPC MacPro

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 23:44 -0700, Rick Thomas wrote:
> MacPro G5 PowerPC

You might get easier help, if you'll mail to
http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/




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Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[Morel Bérenger]

Le Lun 6 mai 2013 10:37, James Allsopp a écrit :
> Hi,
> What I meant was I wan to upgrade an existing system from Squeeze to
> Wheezy
> but replacing Gnome2 with XFCE, which seems a more natural upgrade path.
> I'd rather not have the grief of trying to remove a load of gnome3
> libraries. I think I'll have to install XFCE then remove Gnome2 before the
>  upgrade?

The faster way (because it will avoid upgrading gnome or xfce for nothing,
which includes downloads):
Simply remove all gnome packages, upgrade, and then install XFCE. I think
it is safer to do that from outside an X session, but it should be ok
anyway.

A command like:
#aptitude purge gnome* && aptitude update && aptitude upgrade && aptitude
install xfce4

should do the job, but I think the 2 middle "aptitude" commands can be
replaced by dist-upgrade or something like that. Maybe safer too, I do not
really knows.


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Re: Debian full disk encryption

[Brad Alexander]

Concur with Bob. I have been using encrypted drives for many years now. The
only differences for me are that I have a separate swap partition, but then
you end up having to encrypt that separately, and cannot take advantage of
putting swap inside of the LVM. My next encrypted build will remedy this. :)

Also, I have never built on an SSD...But the procedure is sound.

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On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> John Thoe wrote:
> > I am trying to set up full disk encryption for Debian. There are a
> > lot of options available and I cannot choose which one to use..
> >
> > For starters, I am using a laptop for SSD so I read that using LUKS
> > is not a good option since it disables TRIM.
> >
> > Anyways, I came across this video on Youtube:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9pn2PYbDdA that explains how to
> > configure full disk encryption.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm if this is a good way of doing it? If not, can
> > you point me to some good documentation for my case?? There are too
> > many and I can't decide which one to pick.. I am running Wheezy.
>
> That video describes exactly how I always set up encrypted laptops.
> Except I use lower case names for the logical volume names.  Been
> working for me for many years now.
>
> I can't really comment about trim support.  Until recent kernels it
> wasn't supported.  Prior to Wheezy there wasn't enough support to
> enable it.  With Wheezy everything should be in Stable.  And Wheezy
> has only released today.  Prior to this time my encrypted SSD machines
> have been running Squeeze without trim support and have been working
> quite well regardless.  Although I am sure that properly working trim
> support would enhance it with faster performance.
>
> Bob
>

Re: Debian 7 Wheezy Stable Relelased

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
What I meant was I wan to upgrade an existing system from Squeeze to Wheezy
but replacing Gnome2 with XFCE, which seems a more natural upgrade path.
I'd rather not have the grief of trying to remove a load of gnome3
libraries. I think I'll have to install XFCE then remove Gnome2 before the
upgrade?

Thanks,
James


On 6 May 2013 07:32, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> On Du, 05 mai 13, 23:44:36, Carl Fink wrote:
> >
> > That's really odd. Reinstalling Debian from scratch only takes an hour at
> > most, after all. (I use dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt to record
> > which packages I had installed.)
>
> BTW:
>
> +
> +  dpkg --set-selections changes
> +  
> +The dpkg --set-selections command is now aware of
> the
> +architecture of packages it selects and can only set the state for
> known
> +packages. Therefore an up-to-date available
> +database is needed for the command to be useful.
> +  
> +  
> +To update the available database on an
> +apt-based system, run the
> +sync-available command from the
> +dctrl-tools package.
> +See the dpkg FAQ
> +for more information.
> +  
> +
>
> (pending inclusion in the Release Notes)
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Re: Wheezy issue with broadcom 5720 nic on new dell PowerEdge R720

[Helmut Wollmersdorfer]

Am 03.05.2013 um 09:01 schrieb Stan Hoeppner:


On 5/2/2013 8:24 AM, Lukáš Zíta wrote:


I can not think  another way  to handle this, so  I  will have to
switch  toa  card  from Intel.


To those people who may wonder why/how others often end up with boxes
full of brand new 'perfectly good' hardware that may never be used...


... expensive parts not used.

In my case the two Dell Poweredge R520 have the built in BCM5716 (2  
heads), and an Intel 82576 (2 heads). For more performance I ordered  
additional 2 Intel 82576. But two Intel 82576 do not work in one  
machine (AFAIK a known kernel module problem of kernel 2.6.32.


So I use these expensive NICs in spare/testing machines;-)

BTW: Is there an easy way to get the version of a kernel module  
directly from kernel source tree? I.e. without installing the kernel.


Helmut Wollmersdorfer

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