Re: Libreoffice sous testing ou stable
Bonjour, J'utilise : LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 (pkg = 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2(stable)) sans le moindre souci depuis déjà longtemps je vois qu'il y a une mise à jour (pkg = 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 (now)) Mon sources.list est en deb : http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy ... Y-a-t-il un risque à faire cette mise à jour ? Merci. nh3oh Debian Wheezy Noyau Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 Gnome 3.4.2 AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ De : jerome moliere jerome.moli...@gmail.com À : debian-utilisateur debian-user-french@lists.debian.org Envoyé le : Jeudi 25 juillet 2013 19h52 Objet : Libreoffice sous testing ou stable Bonjour je renouvelle ma question posee il y a quelques temps, mais j'ai enormement de soucis avec les libreoffice depuis la wheezy soient les verssions 3.5.4 et 4.0.3. Suis je le seul ? J'ai des regressions enormes: - insertion (d'une image) par le menu file est bugguee - copy/paste de tableaux calculs vers .odp ne marchent pas - fermetures intempestives bref la cata en stable j'ai en plus du 3.2.0.4 un 3.4.43 et un 3.9.10 sous testing c'est un 3.10.1 (venant de debian) je ne vois pas de logs nulle part.. je suis un gros bisounours en bureautique mais avant j'arrivais quand meme a coller une image dans un doc -) et je ne peux pas repartir sur LaTeX pas corporate -( merci a vous jerome J.MOLIERE - Mentor/J
Re: SVN plus Apache2
Le 2013-07-26 19:09, KAHANAM Essodjolo a écrit :
Le proprietaire c'est root.
Dois-je le changer?
Oui, le service n'a pas besoin des droits root il me semble. Sur cette
page : http://wiki.debian.org/SmallSVNAdministrationTutorial il propose
de créer un utilisateur système pour lancer le service.
Voilà, j'ai trouvé une installation de subversion chez moi, ça va aller
mieux pour expliquer. J'ai dans mes process :
svn 15575 0.0 0.0 87944 948 ?Ss juin06 0:00
/usr/bin/svnserve -d -r /var/lib/subversion
Donc le répertoire qui contient les dépots c'est /var/lib/subversion et
l'utilisateur svn (j'ai du choisir le nom).
Il faut donc que tu crée un groupe système svn et un utilisateur
système svn (commande addgroup et adduser avec le flag --system)
addgroup --system svn
adduser --system --home /var/lib/subversion --ingroup svn svn
Ensuite, tu donnes les droits du dépots à svn
chgrp -R svn /var/lib/subversion
chown -R svn /var/lib/subversion
Pour le lancement de subversion j'utilise un script dans init.d (en
pièce jointe), le fichier ne fait pas parti du paquet, j'ai du le créer.
Tu pourras normalement lancer le service avec /etc/init.d/subversion
start
Tu auras un service svn sans les privilèges root.
#!/bin/sh
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: subversion
# Required-Start:$local_fs $network
# Required-Stop: $local_fs $network
# Should-Start: $all
# Should-Stop: $all
# Default-Start: 2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description: subversion Server
# Description: Debian init script for the subversion deamon
### END INIT INFO
set -e
if [ -x /usr/bin/svnserve ] ; then
HAVE_SVNSERVE=1
else
echo Svnserve not installed.
exit 0
fi
. /lib/lsb/init-functions
case $1 in
start)
log_action_begin_msg Starting SVN server
/sbin/start-stop-daemon --start --chuid svn:svn --exec /usr/bin/svnserve -- -d -r /var/lib/subversion
log_action_end_msg $?
;;
stop)
log_action_begin_msg Stopping SVN server
/sbin/start-stop-daemon --stop --exec /usr/bin/svnserve
log_action_end_msg $?
;;
force-reload|restart)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
*)
echo Usage: /etc/init.d/svnserve {start|stop|restart|force-reload}
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
Mariadb et Debian Jessie, retour d'expérience
Bonjour Mariadb est un fork de Mysql créé par le fondateur de Mysql, 100% libre, 100% compatible Mysql. Pour le moment, des paquets pour Wheezy et Squeeze sont dispo sur le site de Mariadb, rien pour Jessie. J'ai quand même installé Mariadb sur Jessie/Testing en remplacement de Mysql. J'ai testé Mariadb avec Digikam. Opération lourde, j'ai mis à jour les fingerprints (pour 40 000 images), aucun problème, tout fonctionne normalement. J'ai testé également avec Amarok, RAS. On peut se demander pourquoi aucun paquet Mariadb n'est fourni par Debian alors que Mysql n'est pas entièrement libre. Wikipedia, Fedora et Opensuse sont passés à Mariadb https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/MariaDB http://www.framablog.org/index.php/post/2013/07/18/mysql-ou-pas https://mariadb.org/ http://www.developpez.com/actu/54628/SkySQL-et-MariaDB-se-disent-oui-pour-creer-NewSQL-qui-offrira-le-meilleur-de-SQL-et-NoSQL/ -- Maderios -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f3b04a.2000...@gmail.com
Re: Libreoffice sous testing ou stable
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 27/07/13 à 10:18, nh3oh a écrit : J'utilise : LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 (pkg = 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2(stable)) sans le moindre souci depuis déjà longtemps je vois qu'il y a une mise à jour (pkg = 1:3.5.4+dfsg-4 (now)) Mon sources.list est en deb : http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy ... Y-a-t-il un risque à faire cette mise à jour ? nh3oh Debian Wheezy Noyau Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 Gnome 3.4.2 AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3500+ Quel(s) risque(s) ? A priori, il ne devrait pas en avoir sous stable... :-/ Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane. Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/106594652.666758.1374927125192.JavaMail.www@wwinf8305
config apt et keyring
Bonjour,
Je souhaiterais passer une machine de bureau de Squeeze en Weezy mais
j'ai l'impression de ne pas être dans une situation bien saine avant
de faire cette manoeuvre.
Par le passé j'ai eu une difficulté avec des keyring et j'ai dû
appliquer une solution de contournement, ignorer l'authentification,
qui est tout sauf une bonne solution.
en regardant de près la config de apt, je remarque dans le fichier
/etc/apt/apt.conf la séquence
APT
Default-Release stable;
qui laisse penser à une incompatibilité entre ma Squeeze et la stable
actuelle, la Weezy donc, et qui pourrait bien être à l'origine des
clés non vérifiables.
D'autre part j'ai la séquence
APT
Get{
AllowUnauthenticated true
que j'ai donc dû ajouter pour ne plus être bloqué par des clés non
vérifiées.
J'ai donc voulu faire un
# dpkg-reconfigure apt
qui ne m'a rien proposé.
En regardant la configuration de mon portable que j'ai d'ailleurs
passé en Weezy sans aucune difficulté, je n'ai pas de
/etc/apt/apt.conf, seulement les fichiers dans /etc/apt/apt.conf.d dans
lesquels je ne trouve aucune de ces lignes.
Puis-je me permettre de supprimer ce fichier apt.conf ? en supposant
qu'il y a ce qu'il faut dans le rép. apt.conf.d ?
y aurait-il une commande particulière pour configurer apt ?
dom
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Re: Fwd: Re: ClefAgreg
lLe Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:06:08 +0200 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit: Bonjour Le 22/07/2013 17:58, Francois Boisson a écrit : Le Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:37:24 +0200 daniel huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net a écrit: En fait non, ce message n'est pas à oublier. Ben oui, bon lire http://clef.agreg.org/linuxlive-3.10 http://clef.agreg.org/initrd.img-3.10 ou bien http://clefagreg.dnsalias.org/download/linuxlive-3.10 http://clefagreg.dnsalias.org/download/initrd.img-3.10 La clé fait à présent démarrer le Mac Mini, toutefois pas de WIFI et des erreurs dans dmsg. De plus, je ne peux utiliser la clé comme espace de stockage à moins que cela ne soit fait exprès? Les dossiers dans système de fichiers et ceux affichés donnés pour être sur la clé sont les mêmes. Mount ne me montre rien ... ah si: /media/sd[a|a1|a2|b1] /mnt est vide /oldroot/cdrom est le répertoire racine de la clé USB de démarrage Alors dans l'ordre: L'icone sur le bureau liée à la clef ne te permet pas d'utiliser la clef. Quand on me demande, je dis que c'est fait exprès mais en fait non, je ne sais pas pourquoi. Je pense que Thunar constate que la clef est déjà montée et ne la remonte pas. Le point de montage de la clef est /oldroot/cdrom. Tu peux utiliser la clef comme espace de stockage * directement ia le répertoire Documents dans ton répertoire personnel qui un un bind de /oldroot/cdrom/Documents * Par l'intermédiaire de ton répertoire personnel. Les fichiers sont recoîés dans le /home de la clef après déconnexion. Pour avoir des répertoires ou fichiers cachés (.mozilla par exemple) qui soient sauvegardés, il suffit de les rajouter dans le fichier liste * En écrivant sur :oldroot/cdrom Alors 1) Sous quel noyau es tu? 2) Quelle carte video c'est? Y-a-t-il eu un souci (non on dirait bien)? 3) Peux tu me faire parvenir le dmesg, le syslog (du moins la partie concernant ton boot) et les lspci -n lspic, lspci -vv pour l'histoire du WIFI. Merci du test et désolé du retard de la réponse, j'ai passé une nuit à Avignon au festival. François -- Daniel -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51efd140.1080...@tootai.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727195600.1bfab60e74e0419d3c7ab...@maison.homelinux.net
migration vers debian (suite)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, Suite aux questions que j'ai posées récemment, j'ai fait un essai en installant une machine virtuelle wheezy que j'ai upgradéé en sid. Il y a un peu un manque d'info pour le partitionnement manuel: j'ai tourné en rond pour configurer les lvm. J'ai fini par trouver qu'il fallait créer les volumes logiques puis les éditer pour définir quelle partition représente chacun d'eux et quel formatage on met dessus. Les explications ne m'ont pas parues logiques dans la mesure où ce qui semble important, pour l'installeur, c'est le nom qu'on donne au groupe de volume et aux volumes logiques, alors que le plus important est de définir les partitions et le type de formatage... Quand on utilise la ligne de commande (pvcreate, lvcreate, etc.) on a, par défaut, des numéros, mais on ne peut pas passer outre les points de montage et le formatage, ce que l'installeur autorise et ça fait planter l'install plus loin... beaucoup plus loin. Et comme le message est laconique une erreur s'est produite... on se gratte l'occiput un certain temps! 2- Je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire une install minimale; je subodore que c'est en passant une option au noyau en début d'installation Quoiqu'il en soit, sitôt le partitionnement fini, l'installation démarre et on n'a qu'a attendre soit qu'elle se plante (voir plus haut) soit qu'elle réussisse (ce qu'elle a fini par faire). Mais, voir défiler tout un tas de packages qui s'installent sous le titre *choisir* et installer des paquets laisse un peu perplexe quand, justement, on n'a rien choisi! Finalement, j'ai eu une install avec gnome (ce que je ne voulais pas!) J'ai réussi à virer gnome et installer xfce. Puis je suis passé à l'upgrade. Pas de pb ici. Mais comment dit-on install minimale? 3- J'ai lancé l'installeur sur l'ordi qui est sous fedora: tout a été reconnu: raid+lvm. Je n'ai pas encore fait l'install, j'espère que je n'aurais pas de pb avec le raid que je n'ai pas pu testé en machine virtuelle. Si quelqu'un a des conseils, je suis preneur... Il s'agit de réutiliser un raid et un partitionnement précédent, éventuellment de le modifier, mais ça je peux faire en ligne de commande avant l'installation. 4- Quelques questions: a- J'ai alloué (sur la machine virtuelle) 1Go à / qui, en fin d'install, se trouve plein à 96% et ça râle un peu comme quoi c'est trop petit (mais ça marche). Combien faut-il allouer? Je suis peut-être resté vieux jeu, mais j'avais dans l'idée que / devait être petite, et ne pas faire partie d'un GV, LV... de façon à être facilement montable pour des cas de sauvetage de l'installation. Est-ce toujours le cas? b- Question à 2 balles: j'ai 16Go de RAM; combien de swap? et swap dedans ou dehors des lvm? c- J'ai fait le tour des paquets disponibles pour sid; question au sujet de TeX: je vois que les paquets texlive sont numérotés par 2013: s'agit-il de texlive-2013? Ou c'est une numérotation qui indique que le paquet debian est dans une réalisation 2013? Et la mise à jour de texlive, si on installe les paquets debian, se fait-elle par apt ou peut-on utiliser tlmgr? J'ai sans doute d'autres questions pour plus tard, notamment à propos des cartes graphiques nvidia... DKMS existe parmi les paquets, mais y a-t-il un paquet non-free des pilotes nvidia? Et peut-on configurer xorg à la main, j'aime bien faire des config différentes que je lance avec grub Merci pour l'attention que vous porterez à mon message. - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH0DL8ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JUkRwCgzqsPY6AARyZWLClfiMMnV/ZV ut4AnR3v5HyQLU/P7p/NUXSYEGJSihf0 =kSH/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f40cbf.5040...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: migration vers debian (suite)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 27/07/2013 20:09, François Patte a écrit : Rebonjour, Tout de suite une autre question: pourquoi n'y a-t-il pas de firefox et thunderbird disponibles sous debian? Merci - -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAlH0Db0ACgkQdE6C2dhV2JV9FACgsr4TwVbKqERCp8qn2l2XaQwM K7QAn11vaazKz4lZpu9eGaVJzA9iJSQL =pgmJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f40dbd.5060...@mi.parisdescartes.fr
Re: migration vers debian (suite)
Firefox = Iceweasel Thunderbird = Icedove Y'a que le logo qui change : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renommage_des_applications_de_Mozilla_par_Debian Le samedi 27 juillet 2013 à 20:13 +0200, François Patte a écrit : Le 27/07/2013 20:09, François Patte a écrit : Rebonjour, Tout de suite une autre question: pourquoi n'y a-t-il pas de firefox et thunderbird disponibles sous debian? Merci -- François Patte UFR de mathématiques et informatique Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145 Université Paris Descartes 45, rue des Saints Pères F-75270 Paris Cedex 06 Tél. +33 (0)1 8394 5849 http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374951259.399.1.ca...@lann.lann
Re: migration vers debian (point 2)
Le 27/07/2013 20:09, François Patte a écrit : 2- Je n'ai pas trouvé comment faire une install minimale; je subodore que c'est en passant une option au noyau en début d'installation Quoiqu'il en soit, sitôt le partitionnement fini, l'installation démarre et on n'a qu'a attendre soit qu'elle se plante (voir plus haut) soit qu'elle réussisse (ce qu'elle a fini par faire). Mais, voir défiler tout un tas de packages qui s'installent sous le titre *choisir* et installer des paquets laisse un peu perplexe quand, justement, on n'a rien choisi! Finalement, j'ai eu une install avec gnome (ce que je ne voulais pas!) J'ai réussi à virer gnome et installer xfce. Puis je suis passé à l'upgrade. Pas de pb ici. Mais comment dit-on install minimale? Bonjour, (Je ne réponds qu'au point 2) Quelle image d'installation as-tu prise pour faire tout ça ? En fait, selon l'image que tu choisis, il y a des paquets installés par défaut. Arrêtez-moi la communauté si je me trompe, mais il me semble que l'installation minimale, c'est l'image Debian Netinst. Là tu as un nombre de paquets restreint, et ensuite libre à toi d'installer d'autres paquets depuis le ouaibe (d'où le netinst). Il y a aussi d'autres grosses images d'installation qui tiennent sur plusieurs CD ou DVD et qui contiennent l'intégrale des paquets. Je sais que ce genre de support est utilisé par exemple pour faire des installations sur des machines qui n'ont pas d'accès web (j'avais vu à l'époque un gars qui était en afrique et qui demandait qu'on lui envoie tout disque dur / CD / DVD vierge ou rempli de paquets Ubuntu). Certaines distributions basées sur Debian et complètement compatibles Debian se basent d'ailleurs sur cette installation minimale net-install. C'est le cas de Crunchbang par exemple, qui est une Debian tout juste modifiée pour que l'on ait un système bien rapide, même sur des vieilles machines. Cette distro se base en premier lieu sur Openbox. Sur http://www.debian.org/distrib/ tu as tout ce qu'il te faut. Voilà, j'espère avoir répondu à une partie de ta question ! Adrien. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re:migration vers debian (suite)
Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian : Dans son message du 27/07/13 à 20:09, François Patte a écrit : Finalement, j'ai eu une install avec gnome (ce que je ne voulais pas!) J'ai réussi à virer gnome et installer xfce. Puis je suis passé à l'upgrade. Pas de pb ici. Mais comment dit-on install minimale? N'as-tu pas tenté de passer le paramètre desktop=xfce à l'amorçage de l'installateur ? Comme je l'ai expliqué le week-end dernier, cela te permet d'avoir XFCE dès le premier démarrage de ta Debian... o:-) 3- J'ai lancé l'installeur sur l'ordi qui est sous fedora: tout a été reconnu: raid+lvm. Je n'ai pas encore fait l'install, j'espère que je n'aurais pas de pb avec le raid que je n'ai pas pu testé en machine virtuelle. Si quelqu'un a des conseils, je suis preneur... Il s'agit de réutiliser un raid et un partitionnement précédent, éventuellment de le modifier, mais ça je peux faire en ligne de commande avant l'installation. Hélas, comme je ne maîtrise ni le RAID ni le LVM (même si je comprends leur principe), je ne serai pas une grande aide... à part te conseiller de fouiller dans l'ensemble de la documentation de Debian (voir http://www.debian.org/doc/ ). :-( a- J'ai alloué (sur la machine virtuelle) 1Go à / qui, en fin d'install, se trouve plein à 96% et ça râle un peu comme quoi c'est trop petit (mais ça marche). Combien faut-il allouer? Je suis peut-être resté vieux jeu, mais j'avais dans l'idée que / devait être petite, et ne pas faire partie d'un GV, LV... de façon à être facilement montable pour des cas de sauvetage de l'installation. Est-ce toujours le cas? A moins de prévoir une partition distincte pour /usr, il est à craindre qu'il faille agrandir la partition /. Pour le reste, tu es le seul à pouvoir déterminer le besoin en matière d'espace disque vu que tu sais quelle(s) application(s) tu comptes installer... b- Question à 2 balles: j'ai 16Go de RAM; combien de swap? et swap dedans ou dehors des lvm? J'ignore pour quelle(s) usage(s) tu comptes faire de ton GNU/Linux mais, à mon avis, je doute que tu vas servir énormément du swap (avec tes 16 Go de RAM). Mais si tu tiens à avoir une partition swap, construits-en une à 2 Go... c- J'ai fait le tour des paquets disponibles pour sid; question au sujet de TeX: je vois que les paquets texlive sont numérotés par 2013: s'agit-il de texlive-2013? Ou c'est une numérotation qui indique que le paquet debian est dans une réalisation 2013? Et la mise à jour de texlive, si on installe les paquets debian, se fait-elle par apt ou peut-on utiliser tlmgr? Je connais mal TeX Live - il paraît que cela est plutôt courant dans le milieu universitaire ou scientifique - mais je pense qu'il s'agit d'un numéro de version. Quand à installer des paquets Debian (texlive ou autre), il est préférable d'utiliser APT ou Aptitude (c'est mon préféré). Cela permet de se faciliter le travail pour la gestion des dépendances (voire des recommandations et des suggestions) ;-) J'ai sans doute d'autres questions pour plus tard, notamment à propos des cartes graphiques nvidia... DKMS existe parmi les paquets, mais y a-t-il un paquet non-free des pilotes nvidia? Et peut-on configurer xorg à la main, j'aime bien faire des config différentes que je lance avec grub Oui, les pilotes NVIDIA sont dans non-free. Cependant, je n'ai jamais fait de la configuration manuelle de l'interface graphique. :-( Tout de suite une autre question: pourquoi n'y a-t-il pas de firefox et thunderbird disponibles sous debian? Ils existent mais ils sont renommés respectivement iceweasel et icedove. Là encore, bon courage. ;-) Cordialement et à bientôt, Stéphane. Une messagerie gratuite, garantie à vie et des services en plus, ça vous tente ? Je crée ma boîte mail www.laposte.net -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/457331451.183126.1374956008032.JavaMail.www@wwinf8315
Re: Software infantil
El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 14:45:41 -0500 Leafar Euquya raf...@gmail.com escribió: Tambien hay en formato LIVE quimo sugar XO Y otros mas.. El 26 de julio de 2013 14:34, Guido Ignacio guidoigna...@gmail.comescribió: El día 26 de julio de 2013 16:19, Ala de Dragón aladedra...@gmail.com escribió: Hola a tod@s :-D Un amigo me ha pedido que le instale algo de software para unos niños de entre 4 y 12 años. Actualmente esta corriendo esqueeze. De momento habia pensado en ooo4kids y algo de doudoulinux. Si se les ocurre algun juego o similar que les pueda gustar estare agradecido. Sin dudarlo gcompris A mi hija le gustaba mucho el gcompris cuando era más pequeña. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727095420.0d11b85b@durruti
Re: Software infantil
El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:19:57 +0200, Ala de Dragón escribió: Hola a tod@s :-D Buenas :-) Un amigo me ha pedido que le instale algo de software para unos niños de entre 4 y 12 años. Actualmente esta corriendo esqueeze. De momento habia pensado en ooo4kids y algo de doudoulinux. Si se les ocurre algun juego o similar que les pueda gustar estare agradecido. Tienes el proyecto DebianEdu que le puede resultar interesante a tu amigo no para instalarlo como distribución sino por el software que incluye, dirigido a niños y de carácter educativo. Echa un vistazo: http://www.skolelinux.no/linux-signpost/showUserMenu.php Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.10.14...@gmail.com
Problemas con Chromium y página web de GCompris (era: Software infantil)
El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 16:54:36 -0300, ciracusa escribió: Si cambias de tema, al menos cambia el asunto del correo. On 26/07/13 16:34, Guido Ignacio wrote: (...) Sin dudarlo gcompris Alguien sabe porque este sitio [1] no me lo deja navegador desde Chromiun 6.0.472 sobre: $ uname -a Linux vmicedove 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Fri May 10 08:33:48 UTC 2013 i686 GNU/Linux (...) [1] http://gcompris.net/-es- No das muchos datos. ¿Qué sucede cuando cargas la página? Por otra parte, esa versión de Chromium debe ser del paleolítico, ¿no has pensando en actualizarla? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.10.18...@gmail.com
Re: Negociación eth0 con switch a 100baseTx-FD con gigabit ethernet
El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:40:37 +0200, Alberto escribió: El 26/07/13 19:10, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 18:24:53 +0200, Alberto escribió: ... en primer lugar, descarta mii-tool, no soporta (o al menos no lo hacia hace un tiempo) la negociación a Giga. Utiliza ethtool. Bueno, a mí me devuelve esto: root@stt008:~# mii-tool -v eth1:negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok (...) Con quien tenía problemas esta herramienta era con las interfaces bondeadas, es decir, virtuales. mmm, parece que lo han corregido. Yo tuve una mala experiencia creo recordar que con una Redhat 5 o por ahi, no lo recuerdo bien, pero logicamente la versión de mii-tool a buen seguro sería inferior, pero el caso es que la conexión a Giga arrojaba siempre el dato de 10 Half Duplex con mii-tool y habia que remitirse a la info de ethtool. Sí, es posible. root@stt008:~# mii-tool -V $Id: mii-tool.c,v 1.9 2006/09/27 20:59:18 ecki Exp $ (Author: David Hinds based on Donald Becker's mii-diag) net-tools 1.60 De todas formas, tanto ethtool como mii-tool no trabajan sobre interfaces virtuales ¿no? es decir, permiten obtener información y definir parámetros de las tarjetas físicas (eth) pero no de este tipo de enlaces (tun/tap, bond, etc...) de ahí que se vuelvan (al menos mii-mon) majaras. Curiosamente, en Wheezy tengo instalado mii-mon pero no ethtool, lo cual me parece un error (el paquete net-tools incluye la primera en lugar de la segunda) :-/ Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.10.41...@gmail.com
Re: Negociación eth0 con switch a 100baseTx-FD con gigabit ethernet
El 27/07/13 12:41, Camaleón escribió: El Fri, 26 Jul 2013 21:40:37 +0200, Alberto escribió: ... en primer lugar, descarta mii-tool, no soporta (o al menos no lo hacia hace un tiempo) la negociación a Giga. Utiliza ethtool. Bueno, a mí me devuelve esto: root@stt008:~# mii-tool -v eth1:negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok (...) Con quien tenía problemas esta herramienta era con las interfaces bondeadas, es decir, virtuales. mmm, parece que lo han corregido. Yo tuve una mala experiencia creo recordar que con una Redhat 5 o por ahi, no lo recuerdo bien, pero logicamente la versión de mii-tool a buen seguro sería inferior, pero el caso es que la conexión a Giga arrojaba siempre el dato de 10 Half Duplex con mii-tool y habia que remitirse a la info de ethtool. Sí, es posible. root@stt008:~# mii-tool -V $Id: mii-tool.c,v 1.9 2006/09/27 20:59:18 ecki Exp $ (Author: David Hinds based on Donald Becker's mii-diag) net-tools 1.60 De todas formas, tanto ethtool como mii-tool no trabajan sobre interfaces virtuales ¿no? es decir, permiten obtener información y definir parámetros de las tarjetas físicas (eth) pero no de este tipo de enlaces (tun/tap, bond, etc...) de ahí que se vuelvan (al menos mii-mon) majaras. Curiosamente, en Wheezy tengo instalado mii-mon pero no ethtool, lo cual me parece un error (el paquete net-tools incluye la primera en lugar de la segunda) :-/ Ethtool es un paquete aparte... root@apevia:~# dpkg -S $(which mii-tool) net-tools: /sbin/mii-tool root@apevia:~# dpkg -S $(which ethtool) ethtool: /sbin/ethtool y pienso que estas herramientas interactuan con el driver de la tarjeta de red, por eso no funcionarán con interfaces virtuales y demás. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f3d906.4050...@bersol.info
Re: Negociación eth0 con switch a 100baseTx-FD con gigabit ethernet
El Sat, 27 Jul 2013 16:28:22 +0200, Alberto escribió: El 27/07/13 12:41, Camaleón escribió: (...) Curiosamente, en Wheezy tengo instalado mii-mon pero no ethtool, lo cual me parece un error (el paquete net-tools incluye la primera en lugar de la segunda) :-/ Ethtool es un paquete aparte... root@apevia:~# dpkg -S $(which mii-tool) net-tools: /sbin/mii-tool root@apevia:~# dpkg -S $(which ethtool) ethtool: /sbin/ethtool Claro, ese el problema, que el paquete net-tools que se instala de manera predeterminada incluye el paquete tontín (mii-tools) en lugar del otro. Creo que debería ser al revés. y pienso que estas herramientas interactuan con el driver de la tarjeta de red, por eso no funcionarán con interfaces virtuales y demás. Exacto :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.14.51...@gmail.com
cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta recursivamente
Hola lista. Pudieran decirme cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta con todo su contenido (recursivamente). NO TENGO INTERNET. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/64141.10.0.1.2.1374937982.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu
Re: cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta recursivamente
2013/7/27 acade...@pinarte.cult.cu: Hola lista. Pudieran decirme cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta con todo su contenido (recursivamente). NO TENGO INTERNET. Saludos No te entiendo muy bien la pregunta, pero supongo que si queres ocultar un directorio, con tan solo anteponer un punto a su nombre, ya queda oculto, ahora si lo que necesitás es que al entrar al directorio oculto, esté también oculto (valga la redundancia) su contenido, debe de hacerse de alguna otra forma que desconozco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFa+n8oqO4Sf3gyoqhyxw+=kqf4bkf91djrnn0jawxnjqc+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta recursivamente
2013/7/27 acade...@pinarte.cult.cu Hola lista. Pudieran decirme cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta con todo su contenido (recursivamente). NO TENGO INTERNET. Saludos Borandola con -R? JA bara ocultarla , la carpeta tenes que colocarle un '.' a la izq del nombre
Re: cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta recursivamente
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 10:13 AM, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu wrote: Hola lista. Pudieran decirme cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta con todo su contenido (recursivamente). NO TENGO INTERNET. Si el objetivo es que otros usuarios no vean el contenido del directorio, puedes simplemente quitarles el permiso de lectura: chmod 700 /ruta/al/directorio Saludos -- A menudo unas pocas horas de Prueba y error podrán ahorrarte minutos de leer manuales. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caabycjo6hrh7-irh6gwaf-ajtpodnur8_ogaoxk-kpw-zp+...@mail.gmail.com
Equivalente de paint para Linux(Debian)
Alguien puede decirme el equivalente de paint(windows) para Debian. Hace un tiempo alguien me lo dijo, pero en verdad no lo recuerdo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52465.10.0.1.2.1374946896.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu
Re: Equivalente de paint para Linux(Debian)
¿Este por casualidad? http://xpaint.softonic.com/linux 2013/7/27 acade...@pinarte.cult.cu: Alguien puede decirme el equivalente de paint(windows) para Debian. Hace un tiempo alguien me lo dijo, pero en verdad no lo recuerdo. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52465.10.0.1.2.1374946896.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+hdpfkjvjw0kxpokycat03xp08w+lcmwvumn1wsurw5qcv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Equivalente de paint para Linux(Debian)
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Altair Linux altairli...@gmail.com wrote: ¿Este por casualidad? http://xpaint.softonic.com/linux 2013/7/27 acade...@pinarte.cult.cu: Alguien puede decirme el equivalente de paint(windows) para Debian. Hace un tiempo alguien me lo dijo, pero en verdad no lo recuerdo. Hola, Hay varios programas similares: Pinta[1] Kolourpaint[2] Y un poco mas avanzado: Mypaint[3] Saludos [1]http://pinta-project.com/ [2]http://kolourpaint.sourceforge.net/ [3]http://mypaint.intilinux.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52465.10.0.1.2.1374946896.squir...@www.correo.pinarte.cult.cu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+hdpfkjvjw0kxpokycat03xp08w+lcmwvumn1wsurw5qcv...@mail.gmail.com -- --- http://lihuen.linti.unlp.edu.ar soportelih...@info.unlp.edu.ar ---
Re: cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta recursivamente
El Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:13:02 -0400, academia escribió: Hola lista. Pudieran decirme cómo puedo ocultar una carpeta con todo su contenido (recursivamente). NO TENGO INTERNET. Si por ocultar te refieres a cambiarles el nombre y añadir un punto (p. ej., .carpeta, .archivo.txt) pues lo consigues con un renombrado masivo y recursivo. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.19.48...@gmail.com
Re: Equivalente de paint para Linux(Debian)
El Sat, 27 Jul 2013 13:41:36 -0400, academia escribió: Alguien puede decirme el equivalente de paint(windows) para Debian. Hace un tiempo alguien me lo dijo, pero en verdad no lo recuerdo. Pues habrá varios... Google devuelve estos: KolourPaint Gnome-paint / Gpaint Pinta TuxPaint rgbpaint mtpaint ... Todos estos están en los repositorios oficiales. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2013.07.27.19.52...@gmail.com
El agua salada de mar podría ser utilizada como combustible
Un dispositivo con micropartículas de magnesio que utiliza el agua salada de mar para propulsar micromotores es una de las iniciativas más prometedoras de la industria energética. combustible-alternativo-noticias. El agua de mar podría trasformarse en (Leer mas)
Error necesito ayuda
me sale este error a cada rato tengo debian con kde E: Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release is expired (invalid since 386d 7h 49min 8s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201408271716.05323.carlosvia...@gmail.com
Re: Error necesito ayuda
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Carlos Viaje carlosvia...@gmail.com wrote: me sale este error a cada rato tengo debian con kde E: Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release is expired (invalid since 386d 7h 49min 8s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. En donde te sale el error? haciendo qué? qué versión de debian utilizas? cuál es el contenido de tu sources.list? qué es lo que esperas que haga la lista? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjN1-5OMGUHvEW�12NURjf=xkdbps6jitujt8euhe...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Error necesito ayuda
gracias que listo eres te la comiste -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201408271756.23919.carlosvia...@gmail.com
Re: Error necesito ayuda
El jul 27, 2013 6:21 p.m., Carlos Zuniga carlos@gmail.com escribió: On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Carlos Viaje carlosvia...@gmail.com wrote: 27 aug 2014 ¿? Un post del futuro lol me sale este error a cada rato tengo debian con kde E: Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release is expired (invalid since 386d 7h 49min 8s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. En donde te sale el error? haciendo qué? qué versión de debian utilizas? cuál es el contenido de tu sources.list? qué es lo que esperas que haga la lista? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAABYcjN1-5OMGUHvEW¾ 12nurjfxkdbps6jitujt8euhe...@mail.gmail.com Fíjate la fecha que tiene la maquina.
Re: Data e Hora.
No momento da instalação é dada a opção de se instalar o sistema sem um root, bastando não colocar a senha quando solicitado. O debian não força nem sugere que se tenha um root. Talvez, por ser ex-usuário de ubuntu ele tenha optado por isso. Pessoalmente prefiro o sudo do que ter um root e pode ser melhor para ele continuar assim também. Portanto, se optar pela alteração de data e hora no modo gráfico, ao clicar desbloquear, basta digitar a própria senha. Saudações, Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro. --- Em 26/07/2013 17:08, Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro thiagozoroas...@riseup.net escreveu: Você pode adicionar o usuário normal com sudo É $ nano /etc/sudoers Coloque assim: # User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL) ALL usuario ALL=(ALL) ALL a partir daí poderá fazwer sudo su Va em Aplicações -- Acessórios -- Terminal como root (ou Root terminal). No Debian não tem SUDO. Você tem que se logar como root (= super usuario), para ter privilégios de administrador (e, portanto, mudar data/hora definidos no sistema). Abs Théo Em 26 de julho de 2013 15:46, Nélio Macedo nelio.mac...@gmail.comescreveu: Um mistério: como executo no root. O que é root? Pessoal, desculpem mas eu não sei nada mesmo... Nélio Em 26 de julho de 2013 15:01, Greyson Farias greysonsi...@gmail.comescreveu: Executa como root # date mesdiahoraminano ex. # date 072614002013 depois força o relógio do hardware ficar com a hora do sistema # hwclock -w É isso. *Greyson Farias da Silva* Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODFhttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument . http://about.me/greysonfarias Em 26 de julho de 2013 13:51, Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues luiz.rau...@gmail.com escreveu: q máquina é? as vezes, só alterando na setup da bios Em 26 de julho de 2013 14:46, Nélio Macedo nelio.mac...@gmail.comescreveu: Caros, Bom dia. Sou iniciante no Debian. Comecei no mundo Linux com o Ubuntu, mas estou experimentando o Debian na condição de usuário simples e estou gostando. Porém, o que me deixou intrigado é o fato de não estar conseguindo configurar a data e a hora. Segundo o que se lê, o fuso está correto e a data também, mas a hora não se altera. Na verdade, nada está disponível para alteração. Alguém saberia dizer como solucionar a questão? Grato Nélio Macedo -- att. Luiz Henrique Rauber Rodrigues Professor - Pesquisador - Consultor http://br.linkedin.com/in/luizrauber // Economizar também é conscientização ambiental, não imprima este e-mail se desnecessário -- www.twitter.com/thiagozoroastro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/06ac91ce3429a10ec0ba08da35220a76.squir...@fruiteater.riseup.net
Projeto Debian + Tomcac + PostgreSQL + java 6
Olá pessoal, Um amigo meu entrou em contato comigo hoje, me pediu para criar um servidor web interno para rodar uma aplicação, contudo eu não tenho conhecimento em servidores web, alguém se candidata ? Se sim, qual o valor O projeto é para Porto Alegre, é uma empresa de renome, precisará de suporte e disponibilidade full do server. -- Cordialmente, _Christian Rosa - °v° Porto Alegre - RS - BRASIL /(_)\ (51) 92281059 ^ ^ MSN/SKYPE - rosa_christ...@hotmail.com Linkedin - Seja Livre, use GNU/LINUX !
Debian na empresa
Eu li um vídeo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZccOojRqWo) explicativo sobre alta disponibilidade pelo renomado Marcos Pitanga, autor de Construindo Super Computadores com Linux. Neste vídeo ele diz que não é viável utilizar Debian com alta disponibilidade, e que utiliza CentOS pelo fato da maioria dos aplicativos proprietários são homologados para este sistema. Gostaria de saber a opinião de vocês. Desde Ja agradeço. -- (o_ //\- Marcelo Sandro Alves - V_/_ san...@bsd.com.br bmsan...@gmail.com Linus Torvalds disse: Haja Luz, e houve Linux !!! Linux User #497320 http://www.linkedin.com/pub/marcelo-sandro-alves/76/83/800
Não poderia me calar. SIM! Acredites ou não...
SIM! Acredites ou não... estes dois ex-sem-abrigo passaram de completamente falidos e fracassados a.. Ganhar Valores Com Mais De Seis Dígitos Por Mês Online, Usando 3 Truques Engenhosos Que Põem Toda A Gente A Salivar Para Entrar No Teu Negócio. Acesse agora e se surpreenda: http://socialmediabar.com/video-revela-email
Re: Debian na empresa
Em 27/07/2013 17:19, Sandro bmsan...@gmail.com escreveu: Eu li um vídeo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZccOojRqWo) explicativo sobre alta disponibilidade pelo renomado Marcos Pitanga, autor de Construindo Super Computadores com Linux. Neste vídeo ele diz que não é viável utilizar Debian com alta disponibilidade, e que utiliza CentOS pelo fato da maioria dos aplicativos proprietários são homologados para este sistema. Gostaria de saber a opinião de vocês. Desde Ja agradeço. Depende muito de qual serviço. O que ele falou está certo se tu precisa, por exemplo, de um banco de dados oracle, ou algo da sap, ou qualquer coisa do gênero. Caso contrário, o Debian é tão ou mais capaz que o centos de prover um serviço estável, confiável, etc. Não ser Enterprise não necessariamente é algo ruim . ;-) E outra coisa, esse livro do Pitanga é sobre clusters para simulação, computação científica, etc. Algo completamente diferente de, por exemplo, um sgbd distribuído entre várias máquinas.
Editores para Debian Dicas
Olá a todos, Venho informar que disponibilizei o website Debian Dicas ( http://www.debiandicas.org), onde os pessoal poderá obter macetes, dicas e soluções de bugs relacionado na distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. Quem estiver afim de ser um editor do site para publicar sua dica ou soluções basta se cadastrar e me enviar um e-mail pra liberação do editor de texto. Você pode também copiar e colar seus posts que obtêm em blogs e no final da publicação colocar seu link para o pessoal acessar. Espero que ajudem com este projeto de divulgação sobre esta distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. http://www.debiandicas.org Ate mais!
Re: Editores para Debian Dicas
Olá, Você não gostaria de contribuir com os links da comunidade? acho que seu blog poderia fazer parte do Planeta Debian Brasil, que coloca postagens de usuários debian. Se voce não conhece, busque aderir-se ;) http://planeta.debianbrasil.org/ Olá a todos, Venho informar que disponibilizei o website Debian Dicas ( http://www.debiandicas.org), onde os pessoal poderá obter macetes, dicas e soluções de bugs relacionado na distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. Quem estiver afim de ser um editor do site para publicar sua dica ou soluções basta se cadastrar e me enviar um e-mail pra liberação do editor de texto. Você pode também copiar e colar seus posts que obtêm em blogs e no final da publicação colocar seu link para o pessoal acessar. Espero que ajudem com este projeto de divulgação sobre esta distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. http://www.debiandicas.org Ate mais! -- www.twitter.com/thiagozoroastro -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cdf8f584b2eb210d498d668fc9023939.squir...@fruiteater.riseup.net
Re: Editores para Debian Dicas
Minha intenção também publicar os posts que obtiver no debiandicas, estar tambem no planeta debian-br. Estarei entrando em contato com o responsável do planeta debian-br para que estas dicas sejam facilitados para os usuários inexperientes e experientes nesta distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. Obrigado e ate mais! Em 27 de julho de 2013 21:17, Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro thiagozoroas...@riseup.net escreveu: Olá, Você não gostaria de contribuir com os links da comunidade? acho que seu blog poderia fazer parte do Planeta Debian Brasil, que coloca postagens de usuários debian. Se voce não conhece, busque aderir-se ;) http://planeta.debianbrasil.org/ Olá a todos, Venho informar que disponibilizei o website Debian Dicas ( http://www.debiandicas.org), onde os pessoal poderá obter macetes, dicas e soluções de bugs relacionado na distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. Quem estiver afim de ser um editor do site para publicar sua dica ou soluções basta se cadastrar e me enviar um e-mail pra liberação do editor de texto. Você pode também copiar e colar seus posts que obtêm em blogs e no final da publicação colocar seu link para o pessoal acessar. Espero que ajudem com este projeto de divulgação sobre esta distribuição Debian Gnu/Linux. http://www.debiandicas.org Ate mais! -- www.twitter.com/thiagozoroastro
Re: SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution
Hi Dirk, IMO the save as vs export issue isn't the real problem with new versions of GIMP. The problem are e.g. Windows that are transparent, but can't moved away, so that they cover the artwork we want to work on. New sliders that do work, but show wrong mouse cursors, instead of the let-right arrow the up arrow etc.. I used GIMP a lot, nowadays I use it seldom, however, it's easy to get used to the new export option, but the workflow when doing artwork IMO is interrupted by at least an unready new style. Looks like GIMP does flirt with tablet PCs. You'll find idiocy for many apps that were good in the past. Try to sort the Firefox history, when using recent versions and then search by klicken for something. All the time you click a link, the cursor will follow the link, while you want to click the next link, below or over the position where the link was you clicked, but when the link gets opened, Firefox resort the history and you have to search the original position, because the focus is on the wrong link you clicked at first. There are many apps and IMO the only way to manage those issues, is to replace such software. Ok, replacing a browser is possible, replacing a production app, e.g. GIMP, can be impossible. A chroot or virtual machine is a nice workaround, but not a solution to the issues we have with upstream. Btw. professionals using the known proprietary competitor experience similar issues, but they have the advantage that they can run outdated versions on their known proprietary operating systems without workarounds. The so called advantage of Linux, the shared libraries, is a drawback. I wish more people would launch apps using a terminal emulation, or care about their ~/.xsession-errors file. They would notice that the voodoo they sometimes experience isn't voodoo and claims that Linux users always have the choice between alternatives isn't true. Upstream tries to force the users, to use some apps, with just one desktop environment. A desktop environment tries to force the users to e.g. use a special sound server, by adding an insane hard dependency etc. pp.. A chroot and a virtual machine are comparable to a multi-boot. We don't need to reboot, but anyway add tons of libs and for e.g. GIMP we also need to double all the fonts, that are already installed outside the chroot or virtual machine. IMO this is a no-go. 2 Cents, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374909538.680.63.camel@archlinux
Re: Unable to log onto cinnamon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 20:20:29 +0100 Sharon Kimble boudic...@talktalk.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 15:41:24 +0300 Rares Aioanei debian.dev.l...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/25/2013 07:12 PM, Sharon Kimble wrote: With a new user I get the background, no panels, and no menus, no CTRL+F2, still unusable though. Thanks Sharon. What were the exact steps you took when you installed Cinnamon? In roots history - 460 install cinnamon 461 tmux detach 462 install notify-osd 463 installplus xnest xserver-xephyr 464 xnest 465 install libmuffin gjs-internals-1.0 libgnome-menu-3.0 gconf-2.0 libstartup-notification-1.0 the install is an alias for 'sudo apt-get install' I've just installed gnome and gnome-control-center and then tried to log in to cinnamon again, and I was greeted by a big screen error message saying that has been an error and was not allowing me to log in. I'm then left with a screen just showing a desktop background from which I can CTRL+ALT+DELETE which logs me off to the lightdm login screen, thereby avoiding rebooting. We progress! Sharon. - -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk/index.html efever = http://www.efever.blogspot.com/ efever = http://sharon04.livejournal.com/ Debian testing, Fluxbox 1.3.5, LibreOffice 4.0.4.2 Registered Linux user 334501 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.20 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJR83W/AAoJEJPDUMFfwu1G0+4P/094OVrqwO5TXiBYHwvyUGwx 5SzMYX7qTIBsMr4todbpxW9QeedUmYH+GDC1eKh/xJZHZK8+rm0EQLOW+LaqbGeK xyl+J0LVd5flFEJhlDvEGdqcGv2UQk/DhgXK33kAUdEkp6PliTpRnbVdqrKaNtGt VTyxZNf7PbDFv6QGK6Fl2W50seiQg1cq3lTkcfPNKIb4XNStFI3TNTDAERVw2iXr T1oETk2wT8qJaw7IxqUF4ErEM3DXDNIF3N4I+JVUond5B+mWsMXcpo0BjbVShgby eE4oxlFUPlD7vOx+9y+f3qP0KXIiMCGVuCTOoCHxMfnINjwqMtzm/Zn3vL5apTD7 uQAeFX46H53xSAOHVMm3YA3bR/b6DYAJPIE5uJCxB+rsf7Y5+TT9xAtOO1VYes57 pkr0miYS+ZsKdRhImzoCxvmNsyaL1neB5MtDxPe7izgJomTgxD+SQPqXN0E46asY Tq6iUv7JjfAB+lllod2G5zHSYjN8PezvqDFTmJczbwjzY5us2PnQyf5ym8E+DKQ3 2cwMa0BIBfXlBa5P1912BZf6pQShGIoLnjb9QqapWcgmu+QE+uwUEthYPKyRrroN VRnvNotcqYr557Aqdeyevstyh1V74OFLOF8VB2UGtdKLVRoBuBgw8pUxDsQMhY2/ Yisc7yt8zOT3XCmwAlG5 =M0ab -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Texlive 2013.20130722-1 Greek Xelatex problem
When I use this the document compiles with xelatex somedocument.tex:
\usepackage[%greek,
german, dutch,english,afrikaans]{babel}
\usepackage{fontspec} % Gebruik met xelatex
\usepackage{xltxtra,graphicx} % Gebruik met xelatex
\setmainfont{Nimbus Sans L}
%\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
%\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
When I uncomment 'greek' in the babel-options, I get this:
ERROR: LaTeX Error: File `../greek-fontenc/greek-fontenc.def' not found.
When I use this combination:
\documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article}
\usepackage[greek,
german, dutch,english,afrikaans]{babel}
%\usepackage{fontspec} % Gebruik met xelatex
%\usepackage{xltxtra,graphicx} % Gebruik met xelatex
%\setmainfont{Nimbus Sans L}
\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc}
I can compile the document with 'pdflatex somedocument.tex'
This problem started after upgrading texlive to 2013.20130722-1
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Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 26 Jul 2013 at 12:55:04 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: disabling that key and making a new one for yourself. It's a good idea for keys to be rotated periodically anyway. Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? It is for much the same reasons that passwords are rotated. It was mainly this draft that convinced me: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ylonen-sshkeybcp/?include_text=1 It mentions rotating the keys in several places. There is also this one, which is about storage, but IMHO applies also to connection. https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Cryptographic_Storage_Cheat_Sheet#Rule_-_Rekey_data_at_least_every_one_to_three_years Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f38d41.1000...@gmail.com
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
I tried to rule out that you construct the idea of being attacked, e.g. you see lots of port-scans with incrementing port numbers in your iptables log, than your totally legit ssh login that is correctly logged (possibly in another file). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f38f20.3080...@online.de
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: On Fri 26 Jul 2013 at 12:55:04 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: It's a good idea for keys to be rotated periodically anyway. Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? The time to expiration must therefore be much shorter than the expected time for cryptanalysis. - http://www.ecfirst.com/pkifaq.html#18 IOW for the last 30 years and today you should change the key periodically every 20 years, lets say every 15 years, until a person with savant syndrome is able to do prime factorization, then you don't need to use a key anymore? - question mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374916776.715.11.camel@archlinux
Vim and gvim yield segmentation fault in X
Hi! I have just made a fresh wheezy installation. /usr/bin/vim.gtk and
/usr/bin/vim.athena run without problem in virtual consoles but they
both output segmentation fault immediately after they are launched
from xterm or aterm. I did not encounter such trouble in squeeze.
Reinstalling all packages except perl related ones does not fix the
problem:
COLUMNS=300 dpkg -l | awk '/^i/ {print $2}' | xargs apt-get --reinstall
install
Helps will be greatly appreciated!
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Mousewheel doesn't work in preview pane of evolution
Hello list, Does anyone else have this issue and/or a solution? The scroll wheel works as normal in other applications as well as the folder list and the list of mails, but not in the preview pane. When double clicking an e-mail, the scroll wheel also works. In very select cases it does work in the preview pane, but I didn't notice a pattern (yet?). I'm running Jessie with some packages from sid, the evolution and other Gnome packages are from jessie. Best regards, Steven signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
On Sat 27 Jul 2013 at 12:05:05 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? It is for much the same reasons that passwords are rotated. It was mainly this draft that convinced me: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ylonen-sshkeybcp/?include_text=1 It mentions rotating the keys in several places. Thank you, that was an interesting read. The focus of the draft is on organisations which utilise SSH keys extensively, so in such a situation I can understand a recommendation for key rotation because ignoring it may have disastrous consequences. Users with small networks and with well managed access to them would rarely have a need to change passwords or keys at predetermined intervals. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727115259.ga18...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: SOLVED: export vs. save menu in gimp2.8 - simple and lasting solution
On 07/27/2013 04:04 AM, Dirk wrote: Hello, it has now been months that Gimp developers seem to have decided that their product vision in Gimp2.8 (debian/unstable) is more relevant than the workflow of their users. People who use Gimp *a lot* keep clicking Save as instead of Export because that is what they're used to. Because it is natural. If you think that it is trivial to make that workflow mistake over and over - then you are a casual Gimp user and can stop reading. If you use Google and search for export save gimp you can witness what happens when marketing takes over the development. The save vs. export change annoys me as well but I think staying with an older version is not the right approach because sooner or later you will miss new features (e.g. when operations can be computed on the GPU instead of CPU this will often mean a huge performace gain which will probably only be available to new versions or new file formats need to be imported properly). I rather try to get old behaviour back with a new version: An attempt could be editing the keyboard shortcuts: Export and Save keep being two different actions but when one (like me) saves as PNG in most cases, it does not hurt to swap the keyboard shortcuts for Export and Save to get the expected behaviour more often and only press CTRL-E with the (at least in my usecases) less often used XCF. The best solution, of course, is to join GIMP and add a configuration switch to re-enable universal Save and Save as but I do not know, if such a patch might be rejected due to the marketing mentioned above. Your mileage might vary, Linux-Fan. -- http://masysma.ohost.de/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Mousewheel doesn't work in preview pane of evolution
This is a known bug for Evolution and has nothing to do with Debian, there's no workaround. I'm using Evolution on Arch Linux and I'm subscribed to the Evolution mailing list. Regards, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374935181.694.14.camel@archlinux
Re: Mousewheel doesn't work in preview pane of evolution
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: This is a known bug for Evolution and has nothing to do with Debian, there's no workaround. I'm using Evolution on Arch Linux and I'm subscribed to the Evolution mailing list. Regards, Ralf Thanks Ralf. After some google-foo I found [1], I hope this gets into Debian pretty soon, it's really annoying. Regards, Steven [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699574#c10 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Mousewheel doesn't work in preview pane of evolution
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:35 +0200, Steven Post wrote: On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: This is a known bug for Evolution and has nothing to do with Debian, there's no workaround. I'm using Evolution on Arch Linux and I'm subscribed to the Evolution mailing list. Regards, Ralf Thanks Ralf. After some google-foo I found [1], I hope this gets into Debian pretty soon, it's really annoying. From time to time this happens for the editor too :(, you can use the mouse wheel when the mouse cursor is above the scroll bars. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374936192.694.21.camel@archlinux
package recommendation for grammar checker
Hi, What is the best package for the grammar checking? Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51f3dd1e.3020...@gmail.com
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jul 2013 at 12:05:05 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? It is for much the same reasons that passwords are rotated. It was mainly this draft that convinced me: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ylonen-sshkeybcp/?include_text=1 It mentions rotating the keys in several places. Thank you, that was an interesting read. The focus of the draft is on organisations which utilise SSH keys extensively, so in such a situation I can understand a recommendation for key rotation because ignoring it may have disastrous consequences. Users with small networks and with well managed access to them would rarely have a need to change passwords or keys at predetermined intervals. If you have that key sitting anywhere outside of a hardened smartcard, you should rotate it every so often, in case someone managed to snag a copy of it while you were not paying attention. It is NOT too much pain to rotate keys once an year, unless you're doing it wrong in the first place. It is also good practice to never share the same key across hosts (or if that's impratical, across security domains), and to have specific keys for specific services. This practice can greatly reduce the damage caused by a compromised key. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727170629.gd1...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!!
On Sat 27 Jul 2013 at 14:06:29 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Brian wrote: Thank you, that was an interesting read. The focus of the draft is on organisations which utilise SSH keys extensively, so in such a situation I can understand a recommendation for key rotation because ignoring it may have disastrous consequences. Users with small networks and with well managed access to them would rarely have a need to change passwords or keys at predetermined intervals. If you have that key sitting anywhere outside of a hardened smartcard, you should rotate it every so often, in case someone managed to snag a copy of it while you were not paying attention. It is NOT too much pain to rotate keys once an year, unless you're doing it wrong in the first place. Something akin to that happening doesn't seem like 'well managed access'. Most people are capable of looking after the keys to their place of residence so it should not be too onerous to follow a decent practice for keeping their ssh keys/passwords safe. It goes through my mind that rotating keys on 1st January every year doesn't prevent lack of attention leading to the key being leaked a few days later. But I expect sizable organisations have a way of dealing with that. It is also good practice to never share the same key across hosts (or if that's impratical, across security domains), and to have specific keys for specific services. This practice can greatly reduce the damage caused by a compromised key. We are in agreement there. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/27072013184753.88b2f96a5...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
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Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On 20130727_140629, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jul 2013 at 12:05:05 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? It is for much the same reasons that passwords are rotated. It was mainly this draft that convinced me: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ylonen-sshkeybcp/?include_text=1 It mentions rotating the keys in several places. Thank you, that was an interesting read. The focus of the draft is on organisations which utilise SSH keys extensively, so in such a situation I can understand a recommendation for key rotation because ignoring it may have disastrous consequences. Users with small networks and with well managed access to them would rarely have a need to change passwords or keys at predetermined intervals. If you have that key sitting anywhere outside of a hardened smartcard, you should rotate it every so often, in case someone managed to snag a copy of it while you were not paying attention. It is NOT too much pain to rotate keys once an year, unless you're doing it wrong in the first place. It is also good practice to never share the same key across hosts (or if that's impratical, across security domains), and to have specific keys for I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. specific services. This practice can greatly reduce the damage caused by a compromised key. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727222740.GA19973@big
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On Saturday 27 July 2013 23:27:40 Paul E Condon wrote: I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. I'd like to know what a security domain is too. So I can join you as Aunt Sally, Paul. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201307272331.54679.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On Jul 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 July 2013 23:27:40 Paul E Condon wrote: I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. I'd like to know what a security domain is too. So I can join you as Aunt Sally, Paul. ;-) NSA.com? -- Glenn English Disclaimer: Any disclaimer attached to this message may be ignored. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 17:26 -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Jul 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 July 2013 23:27:40 Paul E Condon wrote: I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. I'd like to know what a security domain is too. So I can join you as Aunt Sally, Paul. ;-) NSA.com? I don't know the context of 'security domain', but perhaps 'domain' is for 'subject', 'field', 'branch of'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374968247.651.6.camel@archlinux
root.root and netdev group for /dev/net/tun ?
Is there a reason why the default ownership of /dev/net/tun is root.root? I'm on sid. Don't know if it's anything I did, pretty sure not. As in, is there a reason that /dev/net/tun is not owned root.netdev? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSTKQTMP53q=v9CyZvEh3THZPc654j7=hpzdvvnu0sm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Paul E Condon wrote: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? It is a partition or a group (actually, a set). When you have several services/hosts that have different attributes from an information security[1] perspective, you should place them in different partitions (aka domains, realms, zones). You usually have important partitions/domains as segregated as possible (including at the hardware level) from any others. This is always done to minimize risk and contain damage, but it can also be done for simple reasons such as to keep separate administrative domains[2] segregated. Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. I am unsure whether this is a widely-used term or not. I should have added a definition anyway. Sorry about that. [1] this actually means a lot more than just keep people away from my stuff, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_security#Key_concepts for details. [2] domain here has the partition or set meaning. Stuff that is controlled / owned / operated / managed by or for different parties / teams / customers are probably in separate administrative domains. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130728013919.gb20...@khazad-dum.debian.net
no xorg
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Re: root.root and netdev group for /dev/net/tun ?
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:28:09 -0400 (EDT), Zenaan Harkness wrote: Is there a reason why the default ownership of /dev/net/tun is root.root? I'm on sid. Don't know if it's anything I did, pretty sure not. As in, is there a reason that /dev/net/tun is not owned root.netdev? The attributes of /dev/net/tun are controlled by the file /lib/udev/rules.d/91-permissions.rules which is part of the udev package. Search for the character string tun in this file. You will find a line which looks like this: KERNEL==tun, MODE=0666, OPTIONS+=static_node=net/tun If you want to change the group to netdev, change the above to KERNEL==tun, GROUP=netdev MODE=0666, OPTIONS+=static_node=net/tun You might also want to change the mode settings, so that only root and members of the netdev group can access the /dev/net/tun device. For example, KERNEL==tun, GROUP=netdev MODE=0660, OPTIONS+=static_node=net/tun As for why it is the way it is, you might want to ask the package maintainer for the udev package that question. Of course, if the udev package is ever serviced, you may need to re-make your changes. The change does not take effect until the next reboot, of course. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/548182802.2367641.1374977982693.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: no xorg
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, sp113438 wrote: Hello, I did a fresh minimal install of wheezy I could not add xorg afterwards. I am not going to install bla bla bla So I had to reinstall wheezy with desktop from tasksel That did the job I started my Wheezy as a minimal install, too. But ... Did you set up the Debian repositories? After which, did you do an apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? Then, apt-get install xserver-xorg-core and apt-get install xinit? Then install whatever GUI metapackage you want? For example: apt-get install xfce4 will install xfce4. Or apt-get install gnome. Or apt-get install lxde. Always read the manual first. I do. You'll have a lot less problems. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727203637.2394b...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: Vim and gvim yield segmentation fault in X
Hi! I am answering my own question. user1@host1:~$ locale locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory LANG=zh_TW.utf8 LANGUAGE= LC_CTYPE=zh_TW.utf8 LC_NUMERIC=zh_TW.utf8 LC_TIME=zh_TW.utf8 LC_COLLATE=zh_TW.utf8 LC_MONETARY=zh_TW.utf8 LC_MESSAGES=zh_TW.utf8 LC_PAPER=zh_TW.utf8 LC_NAME=zh_TW.utf8 LC_ADDRESS=zh_TW.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=zh_TW.utf8 LC_MEASUREMENT=zh_TW.utf8 LC_IDENTIFICATION=zh_TW.utf8 LC_ALL= After running LANG=C dpkg-reconfigure locales, both gvim and vim works perfectly in X. Regards, CN On Sat, Jul 27, 2013, at 06:53 PM, CN wrote: Hi! I have just made a fresh wheezy installation. /usr/bin/vim.gtk and /usr/bin/vim.athena run without problem in virtual consoles but they both output segmentation fault immediately after they are launched from xterm or aterm. I did not encounter such trouble in squeeze. -- http://www.fastmail.fm - mmm... Fastmail... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1374988382.20631.2381135.7d54a...@webmail.messagingengine.com
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
Thanks for the amusing responses. With our new knowledge of who actually reads our emails, rules for cycling passwords have lost pride of place in a ranking of things-to-worry-about. I intended the question to be answered in the context of the post by Henrique de Moraes Holschuh, where 'across security domains' is considered less desirable than 'across hosts'. I know what hosts are when writing computer stuff, but, come to think about it what does it mean to rotate keys? Is the idea that a particular key string is to be reused on some host after it has been removed from service on some other host? I had thought that it was best to never use a retired key string again - but security is tricky - maybe there might be some point in using old strings as the keys on some (unmentioned) honey pot servers. On 20130727_162740, Paul E Condon wrote: On 20130727_140629, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013, Brian wrote: On Sat 27 Jul 2013 at 12:05:05 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: On 07/26/2013 11:26 PM, Brian wrote: Does this 'good idea' have reasons to support it? It is for much the same reasons that passwords are rotated. It was mainly this draft that convinced me: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ylonen-sshkeybcp/?include_text=1 It mentions rotating the keys in several places. Thank you, that was an interesting read. The focus of the draft is on organisations which utilise SSH keys extensively, so in such a situation I can understand a recommendation for key rotation because ignoring it may have disastrous consequences. Users with small networks and with well managed access to them would rarely have a need to change passwords or keys at predetermined intervals. If you have that key sitting anywhere outside of a hardened smartcard, you should rotate it every so often, in case someone managed to snag a copy of it while you were not paying attention. It is NOT too much pain to rotate keys once an year, unless you're doing it wrong in the first place. It is also good practice to never share the same key across hosts (or if that's impratical, across security domains), and to have specific keys for I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. specific services. This practice can greatly reduce the damage caused by a compromised key. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727222740.GA19973@big -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130728053748.GB20388@big
Re: Continuous brute force attempt from own server !!! (OT question)
On 20130727_172641, Glenn English wrote: On Jul 27, 2013, at 4:31 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 27 July 2013 23:27:40 Paul E Condon wrote: I'm lurking here, hoping to learn things: In this case, what is a 'security domain'? Don't make fun of me. I really haven't, to my memory, come across the term, before. I'd like to know what a security domain is too. So I can join you as Aunt Sally, Paul. ;-) NSA.com? The NSA web site is www.nsa.gov Other use of NSA is National Softball Association, but their web site is www.playnsa.com Enough! -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130728055211.GC20388@big
Re: systeemtijd, local time, UTC en VPS
Op 2013-07-25 om 11:20 schreef Paul van der Vlis: On 24-07-13 22:42, Geert Stappers wrote: Hallo, Op een VPS staat de klok twee uur voor. Het lukt mij nog niet om de systeemtijd goed te krijgen. Ik heb wat gerommeld met /etc/adjtime en /etc/default/rcS plus reboots, maar allemaal zonder resultaat. Wat zou ik nog meer kunnen controleren voordat ik de leverancier van de VPS aanschrijf? dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Geeft als output Current default time zone: 'Europe/Amsterdam' Local time is now: Sat Jul 27 09:53:52 CEST 2013. Universal Time is now: Sat Jul 27 07:53:52 UTC 2013. Dat was vanochtend voor acht uur. Mijn inziens zou ik in moeten stellen dat de hardware op lokale tijd staat. Vervangen van 'UTC' uit /etc/adjtime lukte niet, ook niet nadat in /etc/default/rcS 'UTC=no' was gezet. Advies is nog steeds welkom. Groeten Geert Stappers -- All times are local -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727061145.gl21...@gpm.stappers.nl
Re: systeemtijd, local time, UTC en VPS
Op 2013-07-25 om 07:25 schreef Eric: On 07/24/2013 10:42 PM, Geert Stappers wrote: Hallo, Op een VPS staat de klok twee uur voor. Het lukt mij nog niet om de systeemtijd goed te krijgen. Ik heb wat gerommeld met /etc/adjtime en /etc/default/rcS plus reboots, maar allemaal zonder resultaat. Wat zou ik nog meer kunnen controleren voordat ik de leverancier van de VPS aanschrijf? Hoi, /etc/timezone ? $ cat /etc/timezone Europe/Amsterdam $ date za jul 27 10:11:13 CEST 2013 $ Terwijl het nog negen uur (in de ochtend) moet worden. Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130727061424.gm21...@gpm.stappers.nl
Re: systeemtijd, local time, UTC en VPS
Geert Stappers schreef op 27-07-2013 08:11: Op 2013-07-25 om 11:20 schreef Paul van der Vlis: On 24-07-13 22:42, Geert Stappers wrote: Hallo, Op een VPS staat de klok twee uur voor. Het lukt mij nog niet om de systeemtijd goed te krijgen. Ik heb wat gerommeld met /etc/adjtime en /etc/default/rcS plus reboots, maar allemaal zonder resultaat. Wat zou ik nog meer kunnen controleren voordat ik de leverancier van de VPS aanschrijf? dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Geeft als output Current default time zone: 'Europe/Amsterdam' Local time is now: Sat Jul 27 09:53:52 CEST 2013. Universal Time is now: Sat Jul 27 07:53:52 UTC 2013. Dat was vanochtend voor acht uur. Mijn inziens zou ik in moeten stellen dat de hardware op lokale tijd staat. Vervangen van 'UTC' uit /etc/adjtime lukte niet, ook niet nadat in /etc/default/rcS 'UTC=no' was gezet. Advies is nog steeds welkom. Dit klinkt als dat de host de hardwareclock op CET heeft staan ipv UTC. Hierrdoor begint de VPS al met de verkeerde tijd. Zie ook de manpage van hwclock. Groet, Rutger -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/b916e0258ae141aafb445f74bdd72...@djslash.org
Re: systeemtijd, local time, UTC en VPS
Op 2013-07-27 om 18:25 schreef Paul van der Vlis: On 27-07-13 08:11, Geert Stappers wrote: Op 2013-07-25 om 11:20 schreef Paul van der Vlis: On 24-07-13 22:42, Geert Stappers wrote: Op een VPS staat de klok twee uur voor. Wat zou ik nog meer kunnen controleren voordat ik de leverancier van de VPS aanschrijf? dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Geeft als output Sorry Geeft aan het einde als output Current default time zone: 'Europe/Amsterdam' Local time is now: Sat Jul 27 09:53:52 CEST 2013. Universal Time is now: Sat Jul 27 07:53:52 UTC 2013. Dat is raar. Als ik dat doe (als root), dan kan ik de timezone instellen. Zoiets: - knipdebconf menu/knip --- Ja, die keuzemogelijkheid heb ik ook gezien. De timezone staat echter goed, ook het tijdverschil tussen local time en UTC is helemaal goed. Wijzig dus graag niets aan de timezone. Ja, de tijdzone staat goed. Mij lijkt dus de tijd fout. Kwestie van NTP installeren wellicht? Network Time Protocol is om in een netwerk dezelfde tijd te hebben. NTP bij herstart een verschil van twee uur glad laten strijken, is mijn inziens misbruik, dan wel symptoom bestrijding. Nu weet ik echter dat er virtualisatie-methodes zijn waarbij de tijd van de host wordt gehaald, en je deze niet zelf kunt instellen, dus ook NTP kan het dan niet. Zie de logs. In dat geval moet je naar de beheerder van de host. Ook mijn inschatting was dat in een VPS het niet mag / niet kan om de hardware clock, die aangeboden wordt door de fysiek host, te wijzigingen. 'was mijn inschatting', ik heb het geprobeerd en blijkt te gaan (bij de virtualisatie techniek in kwestie). Dus met een `date MMDDHHMM` en `hwclock --systohc` was op de VPS de tijd weer goed. Voor het archief nog wat aantekeningen In bestand /etc/default/rcS is er de configuratie parameter 'UTC' Aanpassen van /etc/adjtime sed --in-place -e 's/^UTC$/LOCAL/' /etc/adjtime en weer terug sed --in-place -e 's/^LOCAL$/UTC/' /etc/adjtime Voor de VPS had het geen effect, is niet gecontroleerd op echte hardware. Groeten Geert Stappers -- Leven en laten leven signature.asc Description: Digital signature
