[HS] pgsql vs mysql était: Mariadb (et PostgreSQL)

2013-08-10 Thread Dominique Asselineau
Bzzz wrote on Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:13:00PM +0200
 On Fri, 9 Aug 2013 22:58:29 +0200
 andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
 
  J'ai trouvé ces tutos, ça semble quasiment pareil :
  www.postgresql.org/docs/8.1/static/
 
 Non: cassure de l'intégrité référentielle, retour de 0 à la
 place de NULL, 

Dans quel cas ce retour de 0 au lieu de NULL ?  

dom
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Re: [HS] pgsql vs mysql était: Mariadb (et PostgreSQL)

2013-08-10 Thread Bzzz
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 16:35:15 +0200
Dominique Asselineau assel...@telecom-paristech.fr wrote:

 Dans quel cas ce retour de 0 au lieu de NULL ?  

Sèpu, j'avais trouvé ça sur un site allemand de critiques
sur mysql (et _tous_ les flaws étaient fonctionnels:(

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Re: [HS] gnome 3 ou à quoi bon augmenter la résolution des écrans ?

2013-08-10 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:08:05 +0200
François TOURDE fra-duf-no-s...@tourde.org a écrit:

 Le 15897ième jour après Epoch,
 Gaëtan PERRIER écrivait:
 
  Mais c'est sans compter sur Gnome 3.8 qui je ne sais pour quelle raison
  fait que tout est plus encombrant à l'écran.
 
 Peut-être qu'il est nécessaire maintenant de définir la résolution (en
 terme de DPI) de ton écran? La résolution classique de ton écran est
 peut-être mal adaptée à ton besoin.
 
 Perso, j'ai:
 
 $ xdpyinfo
 [...]
 screen #0:
   dimensions:1920x1200 pixels (332x210 millimeters)
   resolution:147x145 dots per inch
 [...]
 
 regarde de ce côté-là.
 

Moi j'ai ça :
  dimensions:1920x1200 pixels (508x317 millimeters)
  resolution:96x96 dots per inch

Ce qui me semble correct.

Mais de toute façon seule les appli gnome3 sont problématiques.

Gaëtan

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Re: [HS] gnome 3 ou à quoi bon augmenter la résolution des écrans ?

2013-08-10 Thread Christophe

Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :


Mais de toute façon seule les appli gnome3 sont problématiques.

Gaëtan



Prêt à lancer le troll aux Jeux Olympiques ? parce que la , j'ai du 
sérieux grief contre Gnome3 ... :-) .


@+
Christophe.

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Re: [HS] gnome 3 ou à quoi bon augmenter la résolution des écrans ?

2013-08-10 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:27:39 +0200
Christophe t...@stuxnet.org a écrit:

 Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 
  Mais de toute façon seule les appli gnome3 sont problématiques.
 
  Gaëtan
 
 
 Prêt à lancer le troll aux Jeux Olympiques ? parce que la , j'ai du 
 sérieux grief contre Gnome3 ... :-) .
 
 @+
 Christophe.
 

C'est trop facile avec Gnome 3. Il faut plus compliqué pour les JO ;)

Gaëtan

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Re: [HS] gnome 3 ou à quoi bon augmenter la résolution des écrans ?

2013-08-10 Thread Christophe

Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :


C'est trop facile avec Gnome 3. Il faut plus compliqué pour les JO ;)

Gaëtan



Dommage, ca aurait été une épreuve furieusement intéressante. Les trolls 
aurait pu dépasser leurs limites en terme de lancer de marteau :)

Mais effectivement , aucun intérêt.

Christophe.

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Spam

2013-08-10 Thread Georges
Bonjour,

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 Question : ne peut on pas se débarrasser de :

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 Si je pose une question un peu naïve, toute mes excuses ;-)

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Instalación de LibreOffice 4.1... mejor esperar a la 4.1.1

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
Hola,

Para quienes estén pensando en actualizar/instalar LibreOffice (desde los 
paquetes oficiales, claro) les recomendaría que esperaran a la nueva 
versión que van a sacar en unos días porque la instalación de la 4.1 es 
un pequeño caos, doy fe.

Los archivos se instalan (yo lo tengo en /opt) con el propietario  
500:500 -en mi caso al menos- en lugar de root:root y el archivo readme 
no está actualizado y ha habido cambios (p. ej., el directorio desktop-
integration no existe).

En fin, estas cosas no deberían pasar :-/

Bug: 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67388

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[OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:59:03 -0500, listascorreo escribió:

Lo marco como OT porque de Debian parece que tiene poco.

 Hola no puedo entrar al router. antes entraba con 192.168.1.20

(...)

A ver... en primer lugar ¿se trata de un router ADSL/FTTH convencional o 
es un ordenador dedicado a tareas de router?

   ping -b 192.168.1.20
 PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.248 ms

Vale, el ping responde. ¿Recibe todos los paquetes o hay alguna pérdida?

El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se trata 
de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router. 

Pruebas:

- Acceder mediante telnet. 
- Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo. 
- Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso de 
que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
- Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo en 
cuenta las consecuencias).

Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya estropeado, 
Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo cambien.

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Re: Linux router para ISP con posibles problemas

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:28:00 -0300, Mauro Antivero escribió:

 El 09/08/13 10:32, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Aquí tienes una configuración muy completa para un equipo con Debian
 que hace de router de alto rendimiento (para un ISP):

 http://itservice-bg.net/?p=1122
 Perdón, no me funciona el enlace. Puede ser que esté mal o es una simple
 casualidad?

Yo lo cargo bien. 

Prueba a acceder al sitio desde otra conexión (p. ej., módem UMTS) o a 
través de un proxy:

http://www.hidemyass.com/

Si sigues con problemas me dices y te mando el contenido de la página web 
por mensaje privado.

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Re: duda en el correo

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 15:55:54 -0400, luis escribió:

 Tengo un problema con el correo pero más bien para los usuarios que usan
 clientes de correo como Outlook M$Outlook

¿Dices que sólo le afecta a los clientes que usan Outlook? :-?

 Cuendo tengo estas reglas no deja pasar correo desde clientes de correo
 
 Via web si lo hace y funciona perfectamente bien

¿Qué quieres decir con eso? ¿Que el webmail funciona bien? ¿Ha sprobado 
desde otro cliente de correo, p. ej., Thunderbird o Evolution?

 Alguna idea ???
 
 smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
  warn_if_reject reject_unknown_client,
  permit_sasl_authenticated,
  check_relay_domains,
  reject_non_fqdn_hostname,
  reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
  reject_unlisted_sender,
  reject_non_fqdn_sender,
  reject_unauth_destination,
 
  check_recipient_access
 hash:/etc/postfix/usuarios_fuera
  check_sender_access
 hash:/etc/postfix/filtro_nation
  reject


(...)

Ojo con el formato en los valores de Postfix. Ahí (entre 
reject_unauth_destination y check_recipient_access veo una línea en 
blanco sospechosa, deberías corregirlo.

Después, esa variable (smtpd_sender_restrictions) controla el valor que 
aparece en el mail from luego es posible que el Outlook genere una 
cadena que no le guste al Postix.

Más... el valor reject_unknown_client no lo veo disponible para esa 
variable¹ y tampoco el reject_non_fqdn_hostname. Comprueba este punto

Y por último, revisa el registro de Postfix, ahí debe de estar la clave 
del rechazo.

¹http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#smtpd_sender_restrictions

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Afinando el webmail de Gmail (era: Ya tomada una decisión. Era: De particiones de disco, archivos VHD, Windows 7, Virtualbox y la compleja transición hacia GNU/Linux)

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 16:27:17 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

 Ya vi cual era el error: resulta que Gmail me cambió el formato de la
 interfaz, y ¡poof! ¡activó el HTML por defecto! ¿Ahora sí no lleva HTML?

El cambio de la interfaz lleva ya unos cuantos meses...

En fin, html no hay pero sigues haciendo top-posting y las citas salen 
mal :-/

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Re: Instalación de Canon MP280 Series

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 22:56:07 -0500, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
escribió:

(ese html...)

 Lista estoy siguiendo este tutorial para poner a funcionar la impresora
 http://portallinux.es/instalacion-de-canon-mp280-series/ 
 
 ... Una vez que llego a este punto del tutorial
 
 Dentro de la carpeta ejecutamos estos tres comando:
 
 *./configure –prefix=/usr –sysconfdir=/etc –localstatedir=/var*
 
 *make*
 **
 
 *sudo make install*
 
 al ejecutar el primero, sale este error
 
 variable name: `–prefix'
 
 root@wheezy:/home/aura/Descargas/sane-backends# ./configure –prefix=/usr
 –sysconfdir=/etc –localstatedir=/var configure: error: invalid variable
 name: `–prefix'
 
 y no comprendo a que se refiere ese prefix que sale ahí. Alguien me
 puede ayudar para solucionar (por cual lo cambio, para que no de error).
 
 No se a que se refiere?

Ojo con el formato de las páginas web ;-)

Algo me dice que debe ser --prefix (con dos guiones simples) y lo mismo 
para el resto de parámetros.

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Re: [CERRADO/SIN SOLUCION] Fwd: De particiones de disco, archivos VHD, Windows 7, Virtualbox y la compleja transición hacia GNU/Linux

2013-08-10 Thread Alberto Vicat

El 09/08/2013 15:42, José Maldonado escribió:

Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com escribió:

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Asunto: Re: Fwd: [CERRADO] Fwd: De particiones de disco, archivos VHD,
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Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org


El Thu, 08 Aug 2013 09:45:49 -0430, Miguel Matos escribió:

(algo le pasa a tu cliente de corre que se carga las citas... si usas
el
webmail de gmail tienes que configurar el sistema de respuesta
convencional o decirle que te muestre todo el mensaje, completo)

No, sí está bien... yo mismo tumbé parte de las citas que me parecía
algo... irrelevantes. Aunque buena parte de la conversación lo es.



Recordando... efecto de ondasbidubidubidubidu...


El 12 de julio de 2013 14:45, Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com

 ^^^

(...)

Estamos a 8 de agosto y repito que ese hilo no tiene relación con este.

Pero ya que lo mencionas, no respondiste al final cómo te ni nada :-)

Ya no me acuerdo de qué he ido preguntando... con tantos mensajes de la
lista ni sé qué escribí.



Claro, claro, pero el rollo es que todavía sigo debatiéndome entre
mantener a Windows 7 instalado junto a Debian o usar una máquina
virtual... parece fácil, pero para un novel como yo que siempre

necesita

a Windows por x o y hacer el cambio no es fácil. Pero ya me decidí

que

ahora sí, definitivo, me quedo con Debian...

Pues no sé qué decirte, yo lo dejaría instalado, no sé qué problemas
ves
en eso. Algún día te puede hacer falta (p. ej., si no pudieras iniciar
Debian, te quedarías sin Debian y sin VM).

Tener dos sistemas independientes tiene sus ventajas, aunque el vecino
sea Windows ;-)

Y he allí el problema: que le preste más atención al vecino que a mi
propia
casa. Por ello me he pensado entre esto: tener a Windows como único
sistema
operativo y trabajar con GNU/Linux virtual, y usar Debian y virtualizar
el
resto. Y como estoy haciendo un curso de Canaima, ya le agarré gusto a
GNU/Linux.

Saludos.

Tu consideración  de irrelevancia es una patada en el trasero a la hora de leer 
los hilos de mensajes  Me contuve de comentar en este hilo pero no puedo 
más ,  sin embargo solo diré...

Don't feed the troll


Meto mi cuchara:
No creo que sea irrelevante. De hecho tengo un XP instalado en 
partición, y más de una vez me ha sido útil.
Eso además de tener otro en una MV VBox, que es el que uso cuando dibujo 
planos en Corel, ya que Inkscape no me ofrece la posibilidad de 
seleccionar una escala de dibujo sin tener que estar haciendo yo las 
cuentas para cada objeto que voy a dibujar.
Al de la MV no le doy acceso a Internet para evitar que se llene de 
bichos. Pero el nativoen partición, repito, me ha sido útil más de una 
vez. Si hay espacio disponible lo encuentro una buena práctica.


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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread listascor...@msjs.co

El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:

El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 12:59:03 -0500, listascorreo escribió:

Lo marco como OT porque de Debian parece que tiene poco.


Hola no puedo entrar al router. antes entraba con 192.168.1.20

(...)

A ver... en primer lugar ¿se trata de un router ADSL/FTTH convencional o
es un ordenador dedicado a tareas de router?


   ping -b 192.168.1.20
PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.248 ms

Vale, el ping responde. ¿Recibe todos los paquetes o hay alguna pérdida?

El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se trata
de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

Pruebas:

- Acceder mediante telnet.
- Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
- Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso de
que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
- Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo en
cuenta las consecuencias).

Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya estropeado,
Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo cambien.

Saludos,




el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores

el ping si recibe todos los paquetes
resultado:

nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255

Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-08-10 10:34 COT
Nmap scan report for 192.168.1.20
Host is up (0.00021s latency).
MAC Address: DC:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx (Ubiquiti Networks)
Nmap scan report for xxx (192.168.1.138)
Host is up.
Nmap done: 256 IP addresses (2 hosts up) scanned in 6.78 seconds


 ping -b 192.168.1.138
PING 192.168.1.138 (192.168.1.138) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.044 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=0.040 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=0.038 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=11 ttl=64 time=0.039 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.138: icmp_req=12 ttl=64 time=0.037 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.138 ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 10999ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.037/0.038/0.044/0.007 ms


por navegador sale:
No se puede conectar
  Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en 
192.168.1.138.



no sé como acceder con telnet




Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

(ese html...)

 El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
 trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

 Pruebas:

 - Acceder mediante telnet.
 - Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
 - Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
 de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
 - Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
 en cuenta las consecuencias).

 Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
 estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
 cambien.

 el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores

Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)

 el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:

(...)

Bien.

 nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255

Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.

   ping -b 192.168.1.138
^

Hum...
 
 por navegador sale:
 No se puede conectar
Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en
 192.168.1.138.

Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no 
estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?

 no sé como acceder con telnet

Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet 
192.168.1.20. 

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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread José Maldonado
El día 10 de agosto de 2013 11:27, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

 (ese html...)

 El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:

 (...)

 El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
 trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

 Pruebas:

 - Acceder mediante telnet.
 - Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
 - Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
 de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
 - Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
 en cuenta las consecuencias).

 Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
 estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
 cambien.

 el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores

 Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)

 el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:

 (...)

 Bien.

 nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255

 Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.

   ping -b 192.168.1.138
 ^

 Hum...

 por navegador sale:
 No se puede conectar
Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en
 192.168.1.138.

 Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
 estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?


Así es pero creo que nuestro amigo no recuerda bien eso.

 no sé como acceder con telnet

 Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet
 192.168.1.20.

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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread listascor...@msjs.co

El 10/08/13 10:57, Camaleón escribió:

El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

(ese html...)


El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:


(...)


El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

Pruebas:

- Acceder mediante telnet.
- Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
- Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
- Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
en cuenta las consecuencias).

Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
cambien.



el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores


Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)


el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:


(...)

Bien.


nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255


Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.


   ping -b 192.168.1.138

 ^

Hum...


por navegador sale:
No se puede conectar
Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en
192.168.1.138.


Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?


no sé como acceder con telnet


Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet
192.168.1.20.

Saludos,



 telnet 192.168.1.20
Trying 192.168.1.20...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
root@xxx# telnet 192.168.1.138
Trying 192.168.1.138...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
root@xx# ping -b 192.168.1.20
PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.323 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.216 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.220 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=0.196 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=0.211 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=0.213 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=0.261 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=11 ttl=64 time=0.198 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=12 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.20 ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.238/0.323/0.041 ms


el router estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20
ahora no sé


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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread José Maldonado
El día 10 de agosto de 2013 11:40, listascor...@msjs.co
listascor...@msjs.co escribió:
 El 10/08/13 10:57, Camaleón escribió:

 El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

 (ese html...)

 El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:


 (...)

 El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
 trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

 Pruebas:

 - Acceder mediante telnet.
 - Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
 - Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
 de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
 - Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
 en cuenta las consecuencias).

 Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
 estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
 cambien.


 el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores


 Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)

 el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:


 (...)

 Bien.

 nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255


 Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.

ping -b 192.168.1.138

  ^

 Hum...

 por navegador sale:
 No se puede conectar
 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en
 192.168.1.138.


 Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
 estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?

 no sé como acceder con telnet


 Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet
 192.168.1.20.

 Saludos,


  telnet 192.168.1.20
 Trying 192.168.1.20...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
 root@xxx# telnet 192.168.1.138
 Trying 192.168.1.138...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
 root@xx# ping -b 192.168.1.20
 PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.323 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.216 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.220 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=0.196 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=0.211 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=0.213 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=0.261 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=11 ttl=64 time=0.198 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=12 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.20 ping statistics ---
 12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11000ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.238/0.323/0.041 ms


 el router estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20
 ahora no sé


Siendo un router no se cambiara de dirección el solito.

Y por lo que veo en la prueba nmap, tu router responde a los pings,
creo que deberías reiniciarlo como se te ha recomendado anteriormente.



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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread listascor...@msjs.co

El 10/08/13 11:15, José Maldonado escribió:

El día 10 de agosto de 2013 11:40, listascor...@msjs.co
listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

El 10/08/13 10:57, Camaleón escribió:


El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

(ese html...)


El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:



(...)


El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

Pruebas:

- Acceder mediante telnet.
- Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
- Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
- Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
en cuenta las consecuencias).

Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
cambien.




el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores



Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)


el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:



(...)

Bien.


nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255



Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.


ping -b 192.168.1.138


  ^

Hum...


por navegador sale:
No se puede conectar
 Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor en
192.168.1.138.



Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?


no sé como acceder con telnet



Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet
192.168.1.20.

Saludos,



  telnet 192.168.1.20
Trying 192.168.1.20...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
root@xxx# telnet 192.168.1.138
Trying 192.168.1.138...
telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
root@xx# ping -b 192.168.1.20
PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.323 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.216 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.220 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=0.196 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=0.211 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=0.213 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=0.261 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=11 ttl=64 time=0.198 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=12 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms
^C
--- 192.168.1.20 ping statistics ---
12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.238/0.323/0.041 ms


el router estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20
ahora no sé



Siendo un router no se cambiara de dirección el solito.

Y por lo que veo en la prueba nmap, tu router responde a los pings,
creo que deberías reiniciarlo como se te ha recomendado anteriormente.




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si no hay alguna otra idea que no sea reiniciarlo de todas formas 
gracias pero no se pudo




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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread fernando sainz
El día 10 de agosto de 2013 18:36, listascor...@msjs.co
listascor...@msjs.co escribió:
 El 10/08/13 11:15, José Maldonado escribió:

 El día 10 de agosto de 2013 11:40, listascor...@msjs.co
 listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

 El 10/08/13 10:57, Camaleón escribió:

 El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:47:26 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

 (ese html...)

 El 10/08/13 04:18, Camaleón escribió:



 (...)

 El equipo está ahí pero no te carga la página de acceso luego no se
 trata de la configuración de la red sino de alguna cosica del router.

 Pruebas:

 - Acceder mediante telnet.
 - Apagar el router y volver a encenderlo.
 - Conectar un único equipo al router (sacarlo de la red local en caso
 de que lo tengas conectado a un switch).
 - Restaurar los valores de fábrica (esto como última medida y teniendo
 en cuenta las consecuencias).

 Si nada de esto le devuelve a la vida, es posible que se haya
 estropeado, Si te lo ha suministrado el ISP le puedes decir que te lo
 cambien.



 el router está en el techo y por eso no lo puedo Restaurar los valores



 Ah, perfecto... Pues ya puedes ir buscando una escalera :-)

 el ping si recibe todos los paquetes resultado:



 (...)

 Bien.

 nmap -sP 192.168.1.-255



 Hombre, con un ping -c 20 a la IP del router es suficiente.

 ping -b 192.168.1.138


   ^

 Hum...

 por navegador sale:
 No se puede conectar
  Firefox no puede establecer una conexión con el servidor
 en
 192.168.1.138.



 Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
 estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?

 no sé como acceder con telnet



 Reza para que lo tengas activado. Desde una consola, ejecuta telnet
 192.168.1.20.

 Saludos,


   telnet 192.168.1.20
 Trying 192.168.1.20...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
 root@xxx# telnet 192.168.1.138
 Trying 192.168.1.138...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
 root@xx# ping -b 192.168.1.20
 PING 192.168.1.20 (192.168.1.20) 56(84) bytes of data.
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=1 ttl=64 time=0.323 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.216 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.220 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.219 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=6 ttl=64 time=0.196 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=7 ttl=64 time=0.211 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=8 ttl=64 time=0.213 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=9 ttl=64 time=0.261 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=10 ttl=64 time=0.270 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=11 ttl=64 time=0.198 ms
 64 bytes from 192.168.1.20: icmp_req=12 ttl=64 time=0.267 ms
 ^C
 --- 192.168.1.20 ping statistics ---
 12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11000ms
 rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.238/0.323/0.041 ms


 el router estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20
 ahora no sé


 Siendo un router no se cambiara de dirección el solito.

 Y por lo que veo en la prueba nmap, tu router responde a los pings,
 creo que deberías reiniciarlo como se te ha recomendado anteriormente.



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 si no hay alguna otra idea que no sea reiniciarlo de todas formas gracias
 pero no se pudo




Cuando haces:

nmap 192.168.1.138

Debe responderte en el puerto 80
Algo así:

Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-08-10 18:50 CEST
Nmap scan report for tplink (192.168.1.138)
Host is up (0.0014s latency).
rDNS record for 192.168.6.254:
Not shown: 955 filtered ports, 44 closed ports
PORT   STATE SERVICE
80/tcp open  http

Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 3.91 seconds

Si no me temo que solo te queda la opción de resetearlo / desenchufarlo.

S2.


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Re: Crear un Hotspot

2013-08-10 Thread Gonzalo L. Campos Medina
El día 9 de agosto de 2013 09:55, Alberto Corona helio...@gmail.com escribió:
 gracias por las respuestas mas sin embargo creo que no me explique bien al
 decir un Hotspot me refiero a un escenario como el siguiente.
 tener una red que entren sin contraseña pero les abra un portal donde se
 autentifiquen y poder gestionar los logins y velocidades de acceso

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Re: [OT] Re: no puedo entrar al router

2013-08-10 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:10:47 -0500, listascor...@msjs.co escribió:

 El 10/08/13 10:57, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Oye, oye... espera. Esa IP es la de tu ordenador ¿no? ¿el router no
 estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20? :-?

(...)

   telnet 192.168.1.20
 Trying 192.168.1.20...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Parece que el router tiene desactivada la gestión por telnet (conviene 
tenerlo activado -aunque sólo con acceso desde la red local- para evitar 
este tipo de situaciones o para poder acceder mediante un sistema que no 
tenga entorno gráfico).

 root@xxx# telnet 192.168.1.138 Trying 192.168.1.138...
 telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused

Pero vamos a ver... que esa IP es la de tu ordenador.

 root@xx# ping -b 192.168.1.20
(...)
 12 packets transmitted, 12 received, 0% packet loss, time 11000ms rtt
 min/avg/max/mdev = 0.196/0.238/0.323/0.041 ms

Que sí, que ya sabemos que responde pero de nada te va a servir ejecutar 
siempre los mismos comandos, tienes que hacer algunas de las pruebas que 
te estamos comentando o te vas a quedar estancado en un bucle espacio-
tiempo-ping del que no podrás salir :-)

¿Has intentando acceder desde otro equipo de la red?

¿Has probado a *apagar todos los ordenadores y equipos* de la red local y 
dejar únicamente conectados el router y tu ordenador?

 el router estaba en la IP 192.168.1.20 ahora no sé

¡¿Cóm?! Pues si no lo sabes tú, imagina nosotros.

Ay, señor, dame paciencia...

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Re: Instalación de Canon MP280 Series

2013-08-10 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
Lista, siguiendo el tema con lo propuesto por Camaleón... [Algo me
dice que debe ser --prefix (con dos guiones simples) y lo mismo para
el resto de parámetros].

Termine el tutorial sin problemas, ahora el rollo es que ni imprime, ni scanea
He cambiado los permiso según este link
http://www.esdebian.org/foro/48056/problema-multifuncion-canon-mp280

root@wheezy:/home/aura# lsusb
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Multi Flash Reader
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 1241:1603 Belkin Keyboard
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0458:012b KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems)
Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04a9:1746 Canon, Inc.
root@wheezy:/home/aura# chmod 777 /dev/bus/usb/001/006

 y tampoco.

Como hago para que cups  http://localhost:631/ me permita añadir la
impresora o que más puedo hacer. Como siempre, agradezco sus ayudas.

*Saludos;*



El día 10 de agosto de 2013 04:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Fri, 09 Aug 2013 22:56:07 -0500, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
 escribió:

 (ese html...)

 Lista estoy siguiendo este tutorial para poner a funcionar la impresora
 http://portallinux.es/instalacion-de-canon-mp280-series/ 

 ... Una vez que llego a este punto del tutorial

 Dentro de la carpeta ejecutamos estos tres comando:

 *./configure –prefix=/usr –sysconfdir=/etc –localstatedir=/var*

 *make*
 **

 *sudo make install*

 al ejecutar el primero, sale este error

 variable name: `–prefix'

 root@wheezy:/home/aura/Descargas/sane-backends# ./configure –prefix=/usr
 –sysconfdir=/etc –localstatedir=/var configure: error: invalid variable
 name: `–prefix'

 y no comprendo a que se refiere ese prefix que sale ahí. Alguien me
 puede ayudar para solucionar (por cual lo cambio, para que no de error).

 No se a que se refiere?

 Ojo con el formato de las páginas web ;-)

 Algo me dice que debe ser --prefix (con dos guiones simples) y lo mismo
 para el resto de parámetros.

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wheezy se congela con lxde

2013-08-10 Thread Jose C. Carbonell Chavez

Hola:
Es la primera vez que escribo a esta lista y lo hago porque he 
instalado wheezy con lxde en casa de un amigo (por tener un pentium4, 
512MB ram, micro intel celeron 2.6GHz, y 8MB de memoria de video que 
es lo maximo que ofrece ponerle el onboard) crei que funcionaria mejor 
al ser lxde uno de los escritorios mas ligeros.
como conseguimos los CD de debian 7.1 decidimos aprender juntos con 
lxde con openbox, pero resulta que no llega a los 5 segundos y se 
congela todo, excepto que el mouse se sigue moviendo.
la instalacion que hicimos fue de 6GB para el sistema en mi HDD y el 
home aparte con 3GB y la parte de intercambio casi 1GB.



saludos
Dios le bendiga ricamente.
jose carlos

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Re: java7

2013-08-10 Thread Gunther Furtado
Oi,

Em 06.08.2013, terça, G.Paulo disse:

 Seguinte:
 Já tive esse problema com o banco Itau. (Esses caras são terríveis).
 A solução para o meu caso foi discutida aqui e você pode ver a
 conclusão, que funcionou, aqui
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-portuguese/2012/05/msg00134.html
 
 Estranhamente, porém, há algumas semanas o site do Itau começou a
 apresentar alguns problemas de novo... algo de podre no reino da
 Dinamarca...

Por aqui, java openJDK 7 no jessie/Sid atualizado quase diariamente por
aptitude safe-upgrade, tanto Itaú quanto BB funcionando perfeitamente
no ICEWEASEL10.0.12. Já no Chromium, não funciona.

$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_21
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.3.9) (7u21-2.3.9-5)
OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 23.7-b01, mixed mode)

abs.,

 
 Abraços.
 G.Paulo.
 
 On Sun, 4 Aug 2013 09:27:51 -0400
 Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  pq eu estava tentando entrar no site do bb com o java 6 do wheezy e
  nao conseguia, então resolvi instalar o java7 via repositorio do
  ubuntu com ele instalado conseguia entrar no site bb depois de
  algumas instalações não foi mas possivel entra no site ele nao
  reconhece o java instalado np meu pc
  
  Em 3 de agosto de 2013 22:48, Fred Maranhão
  fred.maran...@gmail.comescreveu:
  
   Em 3 de agosto de 2013 23:35, Manoel Pedro de Araújo
   mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:
veio do repositorio do ubuntu
  
   talvez este não seja o problema, mas talvez seja. agora o que eu
   ainda não entendi é por que você está misturando os repositórios.
   que tipo de problema foi resolvido com os repositórios do ubuntu
   que era tão grave que fez valer a pena você ter um sistema
   imprevisível?
  
   
Em 1 de agosto de 2013 19:59, Fred Maranhão
fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu:
   
Em 1 de agosto de 2013 14:46, Manoel Pedro de Araújo
mpara...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Instalei o pacote que vc sugeriu  icedtea-7-plugin e continua
 a mesma coisa.
   
e de que repositório ele veio? de um repositório debian?
   
   
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Pacote com erros

2013-08-10 Thread Edmar
 

Boa tarde, Galera!
 
 Estou eu cá novamente  pois apesar de ter "googlado" exaustivamente, não encotrei uma solução.
 O comando apt-get Update, está funcionando normal para mim, mas na hora de tentar instalar qualquer programa, sempre dá o erro:
 

 apt-get -f install
Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
Construindo árvore de dependências       
Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
E: O pacote firefox-mozilla-build precisa ser reinstalado, mas não foi possível encontrar um arquivo para o mesmo.

 
 Tentei remover o figura,mas:
 

dpkg -r --force remove-reinstreq mozilla-firefox-build

dpkg: aviso: a ignorar pedido para remover mozilla-firefox-build o qual não está instalado

 

 Então pensei, bora instalar este pacote e tentar resolver o problema:

 


dpkg -i mozilla-firefox-build
dpkg: erro ao processar mozilla-firefox-build (--install):
 impossível acessar arquivo: Arquivo ou diretório não encontrado
Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
 mozilla-firefox-build


 

 Não sei mais o que fazer, o último comando que usei foi este:

    

      dpkg -C

Os pacotes a seguir estão bagunçados devido a sérios problemas durante

a instalação, e precisam ser reinstalados para que eles (e quaisquer

pacotes que dependam dele) funcionem corretamente:

 firefox-mozilla-build (nenhuma descrição disponível)

 

Falta, aos seguintes pacotes, o ficheiro de lista de controlo na base de

dados, necessitam ser reinstalados:

 firefox-mozilla-build (nenhuma descrição disponível)

 

Aos seguintes pacotes falta o ficheiro de controlo md5sum na base de dados,

necessitam ser reinstalados:

 firefox-mozilla-build (nenhuma descrição disponível)

 

 

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Toque sensível no mouse de laptop

2013-08-10 Thread Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro
Pessoal, que bom é voltar a poder enviar e-mails da internet de um lar. A
internet do meu lar passado tinha algum problema que impedia que enviasse
e-mails e postagens em fórums e até mesmo usando windows quando entrava
nas redes sociais da noosfero e outros baseados em software livre.

Estou em um netbook Acer Aspire One de 2008, comprado em janeiro de 2009
com 1.6 Ghz e 1 GB RAM, e não pretendo trocá-lo, então coloquei Debian
Wheezy LOP (Lxde+Openbox+Pcmanfm). No FISL eu estava ainda com Debian
Squeeze.

O mouse de dois botões e o toque sensível está em dificuldades. Algumas
vezes ao iniciar eu clico para abrir e o mouse não responde e não
funciona, mas depois de um tempo ele começa a responder. Para mim ativar o
toque sensível depois de ligá-lo, vou ao terminal em ROOT e digito:

# modprobe -r psmouse
# modprobe psmouse proto=imps

Depois que ligar o computador de novo, ou ao reiniciá-lo, preciso de fazer
o procedimento denovo: Abrir o terminal no modo gráfico ou Texto
(Ctrl+Alt++F1), logar com meu usuário, faze $ su e entrar no ROOT.

Gostaria de saber como fazer para colocá-lo automaticamente assim.

Se puderem me ajudar, estaria muito agradecido porque chega um ponto que
não se sabe mais o que procurar e qual têrmo-chave precisa para achar como
se faz, uma vez já explicado.

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Re: Como criar um Sistema Operacional.

2013-08-10 Thread Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro
Olá a todos,

Estive instalando alguns Debian Wheezy LOP (Lxde+Openbox+Pcmanfm) e tenho
reparado que estou com poucas mas dificuldades de finalização do sistema
operacional.

Quais as alternativas?
- Printscreen?
- Fazer com que os botões marcados tenham o 'risquinho' invés de 'bloco
afundado' ??

Aguardo resposta. A demana é para meu netbook, o computador de um amigo e
o computador do CA de filosofia.

 Uma boa tarde a todos da lista de discussão.
 Talvez esse não seja o intuito da lista mas como o pessoal aqui tem muita
 experiência, decidi tentar a sorte.
 Pessoal, sou estudante de Ciência da Computação e gostaria da ajuda de
 vocês no seguinte aspecto.
 Como é feito um Sistema Operacional? Quais as linguagens são utilizadas?
 Como me instruir na entrada deste amplo mundo dos Sistemas Operacionais?
 Estou a ler o livro Sistemas Operacionais Modernos 3ª Edição de Tanenbaum
 para referência e está me ajudando muito.
 Gostaria de ajuda e esperiência de vocês.
 Meu intuito é criar um Sistema do zero a medida que vou fazendo também o
 curso de computação.Nisso eu aprenderia bastante como funciona de verdade
 o coração de um S.O.
 Podem me ajudar com a experiência de vocês? Indicações de site, etc, são
 muito bem vindas.
 Obrigado a todos pela atenção.
 Cássio Elias.


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[RESOLVIDO] Re: Toque sensível no mouse de laptop

2013-08-10 Thread Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro
Fiz então o seguinte procedimento:

$ sudo leafpad /etc/modules

Lá estava assim:

 # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
 #
 # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
 # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with # are ignored.
 # Parameters can be specified after the module name.

 loop

Então deixei assim:

 # /etc/modules: kernel modules to load at boot time.
 #
 # This file contains the names of kernel modules that should be loaded
 # at boot time, one per line. Lines beginning with # are ignored.
 # Parameters can be specified after the module name.

 loop

 -r psmouse
 psmouse proto=imps

E está funcionando normalmente desde o início da inicialização. Muito
obrigado, professor Quesada!

 Boa noite

 Veja se tem o arquivo /etc/modules  e veja se tem esse módulo carregado
 nele ,se não insira com esse novos parametros.
 reinicie se não der certo
 Entre na pasta /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf e insira também nesse
 arquivo
 o modprobe -r

 modprobe -r (você esta removendo e está depois carregando novamente com
 outros parametros)

 Reinicie e veja se deu certo.

 Se ainda não deu,uma outra maneira seria você colocar na inicialização do
 sistema.
 Veja se tem a pasta /etc/init.d/

 Se sim você pode inserir essas 2 linhas no final de um serviço que você
 tem
 certeza que vai iniciar exemplo networking
 pois assim subirá com certeza, (atenção crie um backup dos arquivos que
 você alterar assim se não funcionar você consegue reverter sem maiores
 impactos.
 Veja se tem também a pasta rc2.d (que é o runlevel padrão do debian assim
 você pode ver quais serviços estão subindo com o sistema.)
 Uma outra maneira sería você inserir no .bashrc dentro da pasta root pois
 assim sempre que o root se logar será carregado esse módulo com essa
 configuração


 Abraços












 2013/8/10 Thiago Henrique Ferreira Zoroastro thiagozoroas...@riseup.net

 Pessoal, que bom é voltar a poder enviar e-mails da internet de um lar.
 A
 internet do meu lar passado tinha algum problema que impedia que
 enviasse
 e-mails e postagens em fórums e até mesmo usando windows quando entrava
 nas redes sociais da noosfero e outros baseados em software livre.

 Estou em um netbook Acer Aspire One de 2008, comprado em janeiro de 2009
 com 1.6 Ghz e 1 GB RAM, e não pretendo trocá-lo, então coloquei Debian
 Wheezy LOP (Lxde+Openbox+Pcmanfm). No FISL eu estava ainda com Debian
 Squeeze.

 O mouse de dois botões e o toque sensível está em dificuldades. Algumas
 vezes ao iniciar eu clico para abrir e o mouse não responde e não
 funciona, mas depois de um tempo ele começa a responder. Para mim ativar
 o
 toque sensível depois de ligá-lo, vou ao terminal em ROOT e digito:

 # modprobe -r psmouse
 # modprobe psmouse proto=imps

 Depois que ligar o computador de novo, ou ao reiniciá-lo, preciso de
 fazer
 o procedimento denovo: Abrir o terminal no modo gráfico ou Texto
 (Ctrl+Alt++F1), logar com meu usuário, faze $ su e entrar no ROOT.

 Gostaria de saber como fazer para colocá-lo automaticamente assim.

 Se puderem me ajudar, estaria muito agradecido porque chega um ponto que
 não se sabe mais o que procurar e qual têrmo-chave precisa para achar
 como
 se faz, uma vez já explicado.

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Re: Oops!

2013-08-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:56:56PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:

Nothing to do with subject

Could you please provide a meaningful subject relating to your post.

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Re: Installing mysqldump

2013-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 09 August 2013 19:51:25 Bob Proulx wrote:
 Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
  I am trying to install  mysqldump.


 Something is broken in your sources.list file.  Fix it first. 

A month ago Ethan had both Squeeze DVDs and wheezy http's enabled 
simultaneously in his sources.list.  So he may also need to fix his pinning.

Lisi

 Then 
 run 'apt-get update'.  Then 'apt-get install -f' as suggested above.
 Then install mysql-server.  Then you should be working.  This applies
 to both your old Squeeze 6 as well as the current Wheezy 7.

 I see by your many messages that you have had much trouble in this
 area.  I think you have a system that is partially this and partially
 that and partially something else.  So I don't really know where to
 begin.  Start by posting your current sources.list file.  You need to
 fix it first.

 Are you trying to be Squeeze 6 with GNOME 2?  Are you trying to be
 with Wheezy 7 with Mate?  What is your target goal?  If you don't know
 where you are going then you might be late getting there.

 Bob


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chrome as default browser in KDE

2013-08-10 Thread Dick Thoms
Hello,
before I star, I can't use gnome or xfce for technical reasons beyond
the scope this question and I would rather use gnome, but I can't so
Have to use KDE


I've installed chrome as my browser in KDE
and I've been unable to set Chrome as the default

I've tried Settings/Default and set that to google-chrome
and I've tried

update-alternatives --config x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
and
update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome

but nothing seems to work


any tips would be fantastic

regards
Dick


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Re: chrome as default browser in KDE (solved)

2013-08-10 Thread Dick Thoms



On 10/08/13 11:37, Dick Thoms wrote:
 Hello,
 before I star, I can't use gnome or xfce for technical reasons beyond
 the scope this question and I would rather use gnome, but I can't so
 Have to use KDE
 
 
 I've installed chrome as my browser in KDE
 and I've been unable to set Chrome as the default
 
 I've tried Settings/Default and set that to google-chrome
 and I've tried
 
 update-alternatives --config x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
 and
 update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
 
 but nothing seems to work
 
 
 any tips would be fantastic
 
 regards
 Dick
 


~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
needed every reference to ice weasel removing :D




0x98631051.asc
Description: application/pgp-keys


Re: Mysql

2013-08-10 Thread The_Ace
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:48 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote:
 Dear List -

 This is a combined answer to your questions...



 #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
 Binary-1 20110322-15:11]/ squeeze contrib main

 #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.1a _Squeeze_ - Official i386 DVD
 Binary-2 20110322-15:11]/ squeeze contrib main

 deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib

 # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
 # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
 # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
 # for your mirror of choice.
 #
 # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib


 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian//wheezy-updates main contrib
^^

This line is mistyped. This is probably what giving the error :

 8B48AD6246925553
 W: Failed to fetch
 http://ftp.debian.org/debian//wheezy-updates/dists/main/contrib/source/Sources.gz
  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.148.12 80]

 E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
 ones used instead.

If you are not downloading source packages, best to comment them out
from the sources or fix the line as :

deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib


And then run apt-get update again.


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Re: chrome as default browser in KDE

2013-08-10 Thread Kruppt
On 2013-08-10, Dick Thoms xpd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 before I star, I can't use gnome or xfce for technical reasons beyond
 the scope this question and I would rather use gnome, but I can't so
 Have to use KDE


 I've installed chrome as my browser in KDE
 and I've been unable to set Chrome as the default

 I've tried Settings/Default and set that to google-chrome
 and I've tried

 update-alternatives --config x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
 and
 update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome

 but nothing seems to work


 any tips would be fantastic

 regards
 Dick



Run below from term:
libfm-pref-apps
Is it selected here also?


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Re: Partitions

2013-08-10 Thread Kruppt
On 2013-08-09, Klaus Jantzen k.d.jant...@t-online.de wrote:
 Hello,

 by some magic the partitions on a HDD receive a block-id or UUID (for 
 fstab).

 Does the ID of a partition change when the partition is moved or when a 
 new partition is created
 in the unallocated space between two partitions?

 Thanks for any info.
 -- 
 K.D.J.



You can always check your fstab entries against
the output of blkid -c /dev/null (run from root shell)
Then edit your fstab file accordingly to reflect proper UUID's.
If a original partition is altered, it will have a different
UUID when you finish repartitioning. If the partition is not
altered it will have the same UUID. 


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Re: Oops!

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:56:56PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
 Nothing to do with subject
 
 Could you please provide a meaningful subject relating to your post.

This is the second try replying to your post.  The first one failed to
send. Don't know why.

I did.  The original subject was Oops! Dpkg SNAFU, but when I posted
it only Oops! showed up.  Don't know why.

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Dpkg SNAFU was Re: Oops!

2013-08-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 10 August 2013 18:08:53 Patrick Bartek wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Aug 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:56:56PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 
  Nothing to do with subject
 
  Could you please provide a meaningful subject relating to your post.

 This is the second try replying to your post.  The first one failed to
 send. Don't know why.

 I did.  The original subject was Oops! Dpkg SNAFU, but when I posted
 it only Oops! showed up.  Don't know why.

Changing subject as suggested by Chris, and reposting original question.
-

Finally got around to installing Pulseaudio-Equalizer on my 64-bit
Wheezy, which by the way is NOT in the Wheezy repos or backports.
However, was able to find a tar.gz file of it from the developer's site,
IIRC. It's been months since I downloaded it.  I've been busy. ;-)

In any case, here's the problem:  the equalizer needs
multimedia-volume-control.svg.  A search turned up it was part of
the gnome-control-center-data package.  Not having Gnome on this
system, just a window manager--Openbox--installing the package would
have resulted in Gnome being install, too.  More or less.  So I just did
as root in /root a 'dpkg --download,' and then an '--unpack' thinking
that would uncompress the .deb file in /root from which I would get the
single svg file I needed, and then just delete everything else.  Simple.
Right?  Wrong. Now, I'm stuck with about 4.5 megs of Gnome data, icons,
and config files scattered all over the system that I want to get rid
of before they cause any problems, if any.

My plan is to copy the file I need to someplace safe, then 'dpkg
--purge' the original package to clean the system of it, and copy the
file back to where it needs to be.  Sound okay?  Any expected gotchas?
Any better alternatives?

Thanks.


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Re: chrome as default browser in KDE

2013-08-10 Thread Dick Thoms
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On 10/08/13 14:55, Kruppt wrote:
 On 2013-08-10, Dick Thoms xpd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,
 before I star, I can't use gnome or xfce for technical reasons beyond
 the scope this question and I would rather use gnome, but I can't so
 Have to use KDE


 I've installed chrome as my browser in KDE
 and I've been unable to set Chrome as the default

 I've tried Settings/Default and set that to google-chrome
 and I've tried

 update-alternatives --config x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome
 and
 update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /usr/bin/google-chrome

 but nothing seems to work


 any tips would be fantastic

 regards
 Dick


 
 Run below from term:
 libfm-pref-apps
 Is it selected here also?
 
 
I didn't have the command libfm-pref

but it turns out that manually editing
~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
of all references to ice-weasel fixed it :)




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[SOLVED] Re: replacement for ide-generic in Wheezy?

2013-08-10 Thread Gary Dale

On 08/08/13 05:39 AM, Gary Dale wrote:

The various ide modules (ide-generic, ide-cdrom, etc.) seem to be
missing in the Wheezy kernel. However they still compile a 486 kernel so
I'm assuming there is some intent to continue to support older hardware.

In my case, I have an old laptop that I could run Squeeze on by
including ide-generic in the /etc/initramfstool/modules file. However
the same thing doesn't work in Wheezy because there is no ide-generic
module.

Googling around, I found one post that suggested it's been superseded by
libata but I can't find that either.

Is 486-era hardware still supported in the newer kernels or is this a
lost cause?




The replacement driver is pata_legacy.ko.


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Re: HDMI output

2013-08-10 Thread Seth Bauer
Andrei POPESCU andreimpopescu at gmail.com writes:

 
 On Jo, 31 ian 13, 11:29:17, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
  Hi,
  
  I have a HP dv6 laptop, running squeeze/KDE4.
  
  I'm trying to view the video output on my TV using the HDMI connection.
  Evidently from the OSD, the TV recognises that there's something
  connected, and krandr on the laptop also indicates an HDMI connection.
  However, there is no video.
  Presumably this is because Xorg is not correctly set up to drive the
  HDMI output.
 
 Since you mention krandr I'm assuming you're using free drivers 
 (probably radeon).
 
  Has anyone please got any suggestions on where to look/how to configure
  this?
 
 Please attach your /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
 
 Kind regards,
 Andrei

Dear Andrei,

   Hi... I'm also having a similar problem.  I'm using wheezy/kde 4 also on
a HP dv6 laptop.  When plugged into my TV via HDMI, the computer recognizes
it as a monitor but there is no video on the TV.  Where should I send my
/var/log/Xorg.0.log file?  It's way to long to post.

Thanx,  Seth
/var/log/Xorg.0.log. 


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How to recover after unintentional 'dpkg --unpack' ? (was ... Re: Dpkg SNAFU was Re: Oops!)

2013-08-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 06:13:20PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 Changing subject as suggested by Chris, and reposting original question.
 -

Still an unhelpful question, esp when one knows the true meaning of
SNAFU

 have resulted in Gnome being install, too.  More or less.  So I just did
 as root in /root a 'dpkg --download,' and then an '--unpack' thinking
 that would uncompress the .deb file in /root from which I would get the
 single svg file I needed, and then just delete everything else.  Simple.
 Right?  Wrong. Now, I'm stuck with about 4.5 megs of Gnome data, icons,

AFAIU, a .deb file is just an 'ar' archive.

As to how to recover after an unintentional unpack, ... dunno. Hopefully
someone on this list knows now that the subject explains your
predicament.

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Migrating 32 - 64

2013-08-10 Thread Gregory Seidman
I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's
showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC
was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was
hanging). As a result, I have purchased a new (old and refurbished)
machine. The difference is that this one has an x86-64 whereas the old one
is 32-bit.

Ideally, I'd like to move the HD from the old one to the new one, boot, and
tell it to upgrade all the packages for the new architecture. Is it that
easy? Are there complications I need to watch out for? Is there anything I
should do to prepare before moving the disk (e.g. must I replace LILO with
grub)?

--Greg


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Re: Migrating 32 - 64

2013-08-10 Thread Ivan Kovnatsky
On Aug 11, 2013 at 03:25, Gregory Seidman gsslist+deb...@anthropohedron.net 
wrote:
 I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's
 showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC
 was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was
 hanging). As a result, I have purchased a new (old and refurbished)
 machine. The difference is that this one has an x86-64 whereas the old one
 is 32-bit.
 
 Ideally, I'd like to move the HD from the old one to the new one, boot, and
 tell it to upgrade all the packages for the new architecture. Is it that
 easy? Are there complications I need to watch out for? Is there anything I
 should do to prepare before moving the disk (e.g. must I replace LILO with
 grub)?
 
 --Greg
 
 
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Hello.

I would do a debootstrap.

After,

* in chroot installed all packages from old env
* copied configuration files/reconfigured by need
* replaced x86 content by amd64 
* installed grub from new environment

-Ivan


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Re: How to recover after unintentional 'dpkg --unpack' ? (was ... Re: Dpkg SNAFU was Re: Oops!)

2013-08-10 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 06:13:20PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  Changing subject as suggested by Chris, and reposting original
  question.
  -
 
 Still an unhelpful question, esp when one knows the true meaning of
 SNAFU
 
  have resulted in Gnome being install, too.  More or less.  So I
  just did as root in /root a 'dpkg --download,' and then an
  '--unpack' thinking that would uncompress the .deb file in /root
  from which I would get the single svg file I needed, and then just
  delete everything else.  Simple. Right?  Wrong. Now, I'm stuck with
  about 4.5 megs of Gnome data, icons,
 
 AFAIU, a .deb file is just an 'ar' archive.
 
 As to how to recover after an unintentional unpack, ... dunno.
 Hopefully someone on this list knows now that the subject explains
 your predicament.

Fortunately --unpack just installed files to their appropriate
directories, but didn't trigger or configure anything.  Not all that
up on dpkg. Have always used apt-get.

If I don't hear anything bad to the contrary in the next day or so, I'm
just going to use --purge to remove the package after creating
a copy of the file I need in a safe directory, then copy the copy back
after the purging.  Hopefully, it will work.

B


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Re: Migrating 32 - 64

2013-08-10 Thread David Christensen

On 08/10/13 17:25, Gregory Seidman wrote:

I have a low-cost (i.e. old and refurbished) server at home, but it's
showing indications of impending hardware failure (e.g. the on-board NIC
was being reset automatically every 2 seconds for a while because it was
hanging). As a result, I have purchased a new (old and refurbished)
machine. The difference is that this one has an x86-64 whereas the old one
is 32-bit.


First, back up everything in the old box.

Install a Gigabit NIC into the old box and turn off the motherboard NIC 
in the BIOS.  Get the new NIC working.


Do a fresh install of current Debian stable amd64 on the new box.  Then 
for each service: disable service on old box, back up service/ data on 
old box, install/ configure service on new box, restore/ migrate service 
data into new box, validate data on new box, set up backup's for 
service/ data on new box, back up service/ data on new box, validate 
backup on new box, enable service on new box, and change clients to use 
service on new box.


Leave the old box intact for a few weeks until you're confident in the 
new box.  Then you can wipe the old box and use it for something else.



Ideally, I'd like to move the HD from the old one to the new one, boot, and
tell it to upgrade all the packages for the new architecture. Is it that
easy? Are there complications I need to watch out for? Is there anything I
should do to prepare before moving the disk (e.g. must I replace LILO with
grub)?


There might be people who can do that, but I'm not one of them.  I 
prefer KISS and bullet-proof.



HTH,

David


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Problems installing wheezy

2013-08-10 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Hello everyone, this is my first post here.
I am facing lot of problems in installing wheezy.

1) I downloaded the dvd-1 image of amd-64 precisely
debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1 for installing wheezy. I checked the md5sum of my
downloaded file and it was the same as of the original. So the image was
verified.

Being a hybrid image, I just ran the following commands to make a bootable
usb stick
   cp debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso /dev/sdc/
   sync

As expected the files were copied to the usb. But when I booted my machine,
it said isolinux missing or something, ie the bootable stick failed.

I then used win32diskimager and it failed too.

After that I used unetbootin which made the usb bootable and the
installation started too, but the installation failed saying the CD-ROM
does not seem to contain a valid release file.

As a last resort trying to install through usb, I used universal usb
installer, which worked. I made all the partition, set all the passwords
and did other settings, but this installation failed too, this time on base
installation step saying that it could not download the following packages.
  liblzma (and two more)
The only reason of mine downloading the dvd image of around 4 gb was to
avoid using internet as I don't have access to Internet at home.

I don't know whats the problem, I have been at it since two days and still
unable to install debian. I will be getting a blank dvd and will try to
burn the image and install it (tomorrow as its 4 am here) Some guys at
#debian said that usb stick never works for installing debian .

2) I was an ubuntu user for the past 4 years and have decided to move on
(thanks to the illogical changes to their vision) and made up my mind to
install debian. As I was very new to installing linux 4 years back, I had
managed to create just one big partition and mounted it as /.
So this time before updating to debian, I moved my /home partition to an
altogether new partition and wanted to mount my /home to this new partition
while installing debian. Now as I was unable to install debian (see #1) I
installed mint, and mounted that new partition as /home. Now that /home
contained a .config folder which is giving many errors at startup on mint,
Will it happen in debian? Should I really backup my /home partition. While
on ubuntu I had compiled many software and libraries in my /home folder
itself. Will they all work again in debian (or mint) or do I need to
install them again? I had also backed up my /home to an external hardisk so
I can just copy paste real important stuff into my new home partition on
debian (or mint) later.

(I was a newbie and didn't new that I should have moved those source files
to a partition like /usr/ or /opt before compiling them)

Thats it, those are the two problems that I am facing as of yet. I do not
want to give up so easily, and I really want to be a part of this
community. Please help me.

(if your have reached here and are still reading
Thanks (for not getting annoyed at such a big post)

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Re: How to recover after unintentional 'dpkg --unpack' ? (was ... Re: Dpkg SNAFU was Re: Oops!)

2013-08-10 Thread Dom

On 11/08/13 03:43, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Chris Bannister wrote:


On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 06:13:20PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:

Changing subject as suggested by Chris, and reposting original
question.
-


Still an unhelpful question, esp when one knows the true meaning of
SNAFU


have resulted in Gnome being install, too.  More or less.  So I
just did as root in /root a 'dpkg --download,' and then an
'--unpack' thinking that would uncompress the .deb file in /root
from which I would get the single svg file I needed, and then just
delete everything else.  Simple. Right?  Wrong. Now, I'm stuck with
about 4.5 megs of Gnome data, icons,


AFAIU, a .deb file is just an 'ar' archive.

As to how to recover after an unintentional unpack, ... dunno.
Hopefully someone on this list knows now that the subject explains
your predicament.


Fortunately --unpack just installed files to their appropriate
directories, but didn't trigger or configure anything.  Not all that
up on dpkg. Have always used apt-get.

If I don't hear anything bad to the contrary in the next day or so, I'm
just going to use --purge to remove the package after creating
a copy of the file I need in a safe directory, then copy the copy back
after the purging.  Hopefully, it will work.


Good luck with that, it sounds like it will work.

Alternatively you can get a list of the files contained in the .deb file 
using dpkg -c debfile. With a little bit of wrangling that will give 
you a list of files and directories to delete - although you should only 
delete directories if they are empty.


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bind9, openswan crashes wheezy VPS

2013-08-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
Hello everyone.

I have a VPS running a fresh install of wheezy, installed by me from
scratch (including kernel). Everything seems to be running fine,
except for bind9 and openswan which literally crash the vps as
explained below.

I'll start with bind9, since I have more info there. It's setup as a
name server authoritative for two zones. Querying both zones works fine
from localhost and the internet over ipv4, and ipv6. The problem comes
up when I try to use bind9 to resolve other domains from
localhost. When resolving certain domains, the vps literally
crashes. I have to send it a boot request, and it boots up again
starting with grub, to the login prompt. It doesn't matter if I use
dig to query localhost by hand, or if I have nameserver::1, or
nameserver 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf. It doesn't matter if I query A
records, or  records (if those exist). The results are the same,
bind9 resolves some domains, and crashes on others. There are no
errors in logs. If I use dig by hand, type in:

dig @localhost www.debian.org.

and press enter, the crash happens right there and then, I have to
send the vps a boot request at that point.

Here's a list of domains that work fine, and those which crash the
machine.

crashes:
www.ietf.org.
www.linux-speakup.org.
ftp.us.debian.org.
www.debian.org.
 
works fine:
www.yahoo.com.
www.google.com.
www.fsf.org.

There are probably many more from both categories. In the case of a
query that works, I can get a cname record, and query that until I get
answers for a and  records without problems. It doesn't matter if
I do, or don't use forwarders. If I put my vps provider's name servers
in resolv.conf, I can query everything just fine. 

When using the stock wheezy kernel, the machine would sometimes crash
during boot right after printing starting bind9, before the ok that
comes after. This was true especially if starting named without the -4
flag to disable ipv6. There were also random crashes every couple of
days or so when I wasn't logged into the machine watching for
them. All this seems to have gone away after I upgraded to
linux 3.9 from wheezy-backports, and just the query crashes remain.

I know someone who is with the same VPS provider and runs fedora 16 in
his VPS. I have a shell account on his system, and have been able to
verify for myself by using dig that it's possible to query all the
domains I listed above using his local bind9 on his machine with no
crashes. As far as I can tell (lspci, /proc/cpuinfo), his vps is
configured exactly like mine as far as hardware, except for RAM and HD
capacity. That's all the info I have on the bind9 problem.

As far as openswan, it's setup with one connection, configured as
responder using the native netkey stack. When openswan starts, I get
this in /var/log/syslog:

Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver kernel: [  504.009595] NET: Registered
protocol family 15
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec_setup: Starting Openswan IPsec
U2.6.37-g955aaafb-dirty/K3.9-0.bpo.1-amd64...
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec_setup: Using NETKEY(XFRM) stack
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver kernel: [  504.132588] Initializing XFRM
netlink socket
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver kernel: [  504.194202] AVX instructions are
not detected.
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver kernel: [  504.202914] AVX instructions are
not detected.
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec_setup: ...Openswan IPsec started
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec__plutorun: adjusting ipsec.d to
/etc/ipsec.d
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver pluto: adjusting ipsec.d to /etc/ipsec.d
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec__plutorun: 002 loading certificate from
/etc/ipsec.d/certs/servercert.pem
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec__plutorun: 002   loaded host cert file
'/etc/ipsec.d/certs/servercert.pem' (1505 bytes)
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec__plutorun: 002   no subjectAltName
matches ID '%fromcert', replaced by subject DN
Aug  9 23:07:16 vserver ipsec__plutorun: 002 added connection
description l2tp

The machine crashes when I try to initiate a connection from a win7
client. Nothing gets written to the logs here, so the output below is
the last screen full I get when logged into the vps via the serial
console using out of band access, with the vps running in run level 1,
and invoke-rc.d ipsec start done by hand:

pluto[2266]: packet from 10.0.0.1:500: received Vendor ID
payload [draft-ietf-ipsec-nat-t-ike-02_n] meth=106, but already using
method 109
pluto[2266]: packet from 10.0.0.1:500: ignoring Vendor ID
payload [FRAGMENTATION]
pluto[2266]: packet from 10.0.0.1:500: ignoring Vendor ID
payload [MS-Negotiation Discovery Capable]
pluto[2266]: packet from 10.0.0.1:500: ignoring Vendor ID
payload [Vid-Initial-Contact]
pluto[2266]: packet from 10.0.0.1:500: ignoring Vendor ID
payload [IKE CGA version 1]
pluto[2266]: l2tp[1] 10.0.0.1 #1: responding to Main Mode from
unknown peer 10.0.0.1
pluto[2266]: l2tp[1] 10.0.0.1 #1: OAKLEY_GROUP 20 not
supported.  Attribute OAKLEY_GROUP_DESCRIPTION
pluto[2266]: l2tp[1] 10.0.0.1 #1: OAKLEY_GROUP 19 not
supported.  Attribute 

Ter info: PirateBrowser

2013-08-10 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
The Pirate Bay is hier al eens eerder ter sprake geweest, daarom post ik
het maar hier.
Ter gelegenheid van zijn 10-jarig bestaan heeft TPB een 'pirate browser'
uitgebracht, wat opnieuw een eenvoudige manier oplevert om blokkades te
omzeilen.

Dat gaat zo: er wordt verbinding gemaakt met het TOR-netwerk, waarna
een stand-alone Firefoxbrowser start waarmee je TPB kunt bereiken.

Weliswaar bestaat dit voorlopig alleen voor Windows, maar het blijkt
goed te werken op Wine! De gevonden magnet links zijn dan eventueel
weer naar de Linux-omgeving te kopiëren.
Eenvoudige instructies vind je hier: http://piratebrowser.com/

Voor de goede orde: zelf ben ik nou helemaal niet iemand die misbruik
maakt van TPB. Maar het is zo'n leuke sport om die blokkades te
proberen te omzeilen...


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