date:20130823

El día 21 de agosto de 2013 16:25, C. L. Martinez
carlopm...@gmail.com escribió:
2013/8/21 C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com:
2013/8/21 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
El Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:42:20 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

El día 20 de agosto de 2013 17:21, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:

(...)

Justo ahí, me gustaría que el dns example.com que apuntaba a la ip
fija de mi empresa, ahora cambie debido a la falla y apunte a la ip
fija pública de amazon donde teneoms otra VM...

Si me explicado mal, me lo decís.

(...)

Si, si es lo mismo que lo que te comento de la técnica del RR
(básicamente se trata de tener varios registros A estáticos que son
consultados de manera consecutiva cuando el primero que responde no
está accesible), sólo que tú estás pensando en un sistema de
implementación distinto (actualizar las entradas de la zona de tu
dominio para que apunten a otro servidor cuando no responda, para cual
necesitarás una configuración en clúster o HA de los equipos o tener
algún sistema de detección que le indique al DNS que se actualice).

Lo he entendido bien pero tengo alguna duda y es que por ejemplo si en
vez de fallar la linea que tengo contratada fallan mis 2 apaches que
tenemos en la red local...Cómo se da cuenta nuestro dns en este caso
nominalia de que mi servidor web apache se ha caído para cambiar el dns
example.com y resolverlo a amazon??

Supongo que te refieres cuando usas el sistema de DDNS Pues se daría
cuenta porque el host no estaría respondiendo.

No sé qué tipo de sistema de monitorización usarán los servicios
configurados en HA o los clústers, quizá un simple ping al servidor web
cada x tiempo y si hay pérdida de paquetes actualizan los registros DNS
de la zona para asignar la carga a otro registro.

Si yo pongo 2 registros en nominalia, por ejempo:

TIPO A: example.com -- 6.5.3.5 -- mi ip estatica publica de mi ISP
TIPO A: example.com -- 8.3.4.2 -- AMAZON

Con el sistema round-bind no tienes que hacer nada, tan sólo asignarle
prioridad al registro principal (servidor alojado por ti) para que cuando
no responda a las peticiones salte automáticamente a los siguientes
registros.

Por aquí lo explican mejor, con ejemplos de uso:

DNS round robin for web server failover
http://www.nber.org/sys-admin/dns-failover.html

HOWTO - Configure Load Balancing
http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch9/rr.html

Este sistema no es infalible y el cliente puede notar un pequeño retardo
en cargar la página en el caso de que el servidor primario esté fuera de
combate, pero bueno, ya te dije que era el balanceo de los pobres :-P

Y otra cosa, a que te refieres con GeoLocalización y para que me puede
servir en este caso??

¿Ein?

Ah, eso es cosa de C.L. Martínez ;-)

Saludos,

Mira aquí tienes un ejemplo a nivel de cluster de storage:

http://gluster.org/community/documentation/index.php/Gluster_3.2:_Exploring_Geo-replication_Deployment_Scenarios

En tu caso es hacer lo mismo pero a nivel de servicio ... Para ello lo
idela es que el ISP te diese un acceso de nivel 2 (y amazon también),
es lo que se hace para desplegar por ejemplo firewalls geolocalizados
(vamos que físicamente se encuentran a kilómetros de distancia). Si
no, se puede trabajar también a nivel 3 (o sea IPs) via multicast.

Saludos.

Mira un ejemplo más concreto utilizando SLES 11 SP3:
https://www.suse.com/documentation/sle_ha/singlehtml/book_sleha/book_sleha.html#cha.ha.geo.

Aunque yo creo que también se podría hacer con Debian pero no lo sé ...

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Muy bueno, muchas gracias.

Por cierto, sabéis cuanto puede costar al mes un servidor en amazon
dedicado? Ya sé que va en función del uso que se le de, te cobran por
uso y te cobran un precio estándard por instancia levantada... Pero
aproximadamente, ya que va a ser un servidor que entrará en acción
cuando se caigan nuestros servicios y sería unos servicios tales como
base de datos rds sencilla, ec2 y dns route53. Mientras no entre en
acción, simplemente estará levantado...Eso sí el dns recibirá
peticiones constantemente.

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Posible bug en debian con gitlab

Hola muy buenas, tengo implementado sobre un debian wheezy la versión
de gitlab 4.1.0. Ya sé que está la versión 6 de gitlab, pero bueno
implementé en su día ésa versión y la verdad es que ha ido fenomenal,
excepto ahora que tengo el siguiente problema:

Resulta que cuando creas un proyecto y añades y creas también más
ramas(a parte de la de master), mediante la interfaz web de gitlab sí
que se ven todas las ramas que vas creando, pero si te descargas el
repo con git clone url y luego quieres ver las ramas haciendo
primero git checkout y luego le lanzas un git branch para ver las
ramas disponibles, no aparece la nueva que he creado...El caso que
desde la interfaz web sí que está...

Puede ser un bug de gitlab pero no sé, alomejor tenía algo que ver con
el SO...No sé la verdad es que no sé por donde meterle mano por más
comandos y comandos qu ele paso...

Esta consulta la he puesto también en la lista de gitlab(en el foro
concretamente) y de momento no he obtenido respuesta.

Lo pregunto aquí porque creo que hay gente de todo tipo de
conocimientos y alomejor le ha pasado a otra persona. Si necesito
meterle el OFF-TOPIC, me lo decís sorry.

Gracias.

Saludos.


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Re: [OT] database administrator tools para mysql, mariadb

2013-08-23 Thread Jorge Pérez


El 23/08/2013 2:09: am, Carlos Carcamo escribió:

Gracias a todos por responder

Ya vi esa de navicat, pero lo que realmente busco es una alternativa
libre, de no haber me quedare con dbearver...

El día 22 de agosto de 2013 11:07, Juan Manuel Acuña Barrera
gps...@gmail.com escribió:


El 22/08/2013, a las 11:41, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:


El Thu, 22 Aug 2013 10:16:56 -0600, Carlos Carcamo escribió:


Buscando en Internet no encuentro ningun database admin para mysql,
mariadb, libre y fiable, tengo instalado mysql-worbench pero me gustaría
una alternativa mas ligera, me baje uno que se llama dbeaver al
principio me pareció muy bueno, pero tiene ciertas inconsistencias hace
que crear y modelar una base de datos sea una tarea poco agradable...


En Wikipedia tienes una lista con varias herramientas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_database_tools


Me tome la libertad de preguntar a la lista, pues creo que acá hay
muchos desarrolladores y de seguro saben de alguna buena herramienta...


Personalmente he probado DBEdit, Navicat, HeidiSQL, phpMyAdmin, AquaData
Studio, EMS SQL y SQuirrel SQL. Las únicas con las que he podido hacer
algo fueron Navicat (excelente) y phpMyAdmin. Con el resto no pasaba de
la conexión a la DB o fallaban en operaciones simples como la carga/
importación de datos a las tablas ;-(

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Yo he usado Navicat, antes había una versión lite gratuita, que era lo mismo 
que la normal, pero no tenía todas las funcionalidades, no se si todavía existe.

Quiero hacer notar que aunque la versión era gratis, no era libre, aún así era 
excelente.

Saludos!





puedes probar dbsigex[1]

[1] http://www.grm.jovenclub.cu/repogutl/packages/dbsigex.zip

salu2s

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Re: Problema con KDE y/o LXDE en Debian 6 al cambiar a modo consola y volver al modo gráfico

El Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:28:02 -0300, ciracusa escribió:

 On 22/08/13 11:02, Camaleón wrote:
 El Thu, 22 Aug 2013 06:30:15 -0300, ciracusa escribió:


 No llegan mis mensajes a la lista?

 :(
  
 ¿Pero no hablamos de eso hace poco?



 Si Camaleon, pero es raro que a veces no haya ni ruido de un mensaje.

Si por que no haya ni ruido de un mensaje te refieres a que no recibes 
respuestas pues es normal, estamos en meses de vacaciones al menos aquí 
en España y hay menos gente por la lista.

De todas formas, ya te respondí al primer mensaje que enviaste.

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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:27:12 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

(...)

 Resulta que cuando creas un proyecto y añades y creas también más
 ramas(a parte de la de master), mediante la interfaz web de gitlab sí
 que se ven todas las ramas que vas creando, pero si te descargas el repo
 con git clone url y luego quieres ver las ramas haciendo primero
 git checkout y luego le lanzas un git branch para ver las ramas
 disponibles, no aparece la nueva que he creado...El caso que desde la
 interfaz web sí que está...

(...)

Este el primer resultado que me ha devuelto Google, dale un ojo:

After git clone , does not see branch
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3999541/after-git-clone-does-not-see-branch

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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:27:12 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

(...)

Resulta que cuando creas un proyecto y añades y creas también más
ramas(a parte de la de master), mediante la interfaz web de gitlab sí
que se ven todas las ramas que vas creando, pero si te descargas el repo
con git clone url y luego quieres ver las ramas haciendo primero
git checkout y luego le lanzas un git branch para ver las ramas
disponibles, no aparece la nueva que he creado...El caso que desde la
interfaz web sí que está...

(...)

Este el primer resultado que me ha devuelto Google, dale un ojo:

After git clone , does not see branch
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3999541/after-git-clone-does-not-see-branch

Saludos,

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Gracias por contestar.

Sí ése enlace ya le visto y otros 100 más xDDD. No tira...Creo que es
bug. Lo he reportado también como bug haber si es por la versión de
gitlab, no creo que tenga nada que ver debian...

Gracias no obstante Camaleón.

Saludos.

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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:37:47 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:27:12 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 (...)

 Resulta que cuando creas un proyecto y añades y creas también más
 ramas(a parte de la de master), mediante la interfaz web de gitlab sí
 que se ven todas las ramas que vas creando, pero si te descargas el 
repo
 con git clone url y luego quieres ver las ramas haciendo primero
 git checkout y luego le lanzas un git branch para ver las ramas
 disponibles, no aparece la nueva que he creado...El caso que desde la
 interfaz web sí que está...

 (...)

 Este el primer resultado que me ha devuelto Google, dale un ojo:

 After git clone , does not see branch
 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3999541/after-git-clone-does-not-
see-branch
 
 Gracias por contestar.
 
 Sí ése enlace ya le visto y otros 100 más xDDD. No tira...

Vale, como no habías puesto las opciones -a ni -r, por eso te lo 
comentaba.

 Creo que es bug. Lo he reportado también como bug haber si es por la
 versión de gitlab, no creo que tenga nada que ver debian...

Ya me imagino lo que van a decir: que pruebes con la última versión :-P
 
 Gracias no obstante Camaleón.

De nada, hombre. Suerte.

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Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

2013-08-23 Thread tq


Hola Grupo.

Estoy viendo que en 2 equipos diferentes que cumplecon OpenVZ la salida 
del comando [1] es diferente [2] y [3].


Notar que en el caso [2] se muestra además de las particiones del Host 
Anfitrión y puntualmente la /vm afectada a OpenVZ, lo que ocupa el 
primer CT virtualizado (/dev/sr0)


Mientras que en el segundo caso [3] solo se muestra la partición /vz.

Alguien sabe a que puede deberse la salida diferente?

Muchas Gracias!


[1] df -h

[2]
# df -h
S.ficherosSize  Used Avail Use% Montado en
/dev/sda1  28G  358M   26G   2% /
tmpfs 4,0G 0  4,0G   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M  180K  9,9M   2% /dev
tmpfs 4,0G 0  4,0G   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda2 939M   44M  848M   5% /boot
/dev/sda3 184G  651M  174G   1% /home
/dev/sda4  37G  177M   35G   1% /opt
/dev/sda5 939M   18M  874M   2% /tmp
/dev/sda6  37G  2,4G   33G   7% /usr
/dev/sda7  37G  177M   35G   1% /usr/local
/dev/sda8 184G  4,5G  170G   3% /var
/dev/sda101,3T  920M  1,3T   1% /vm
/dev/sr0  151M  151M 0 100% /vm/root/101/mnt/cdrom

[3]
# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda1  19G  2.2G   16G  13% /
tmpfs1013M 0 1013M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M  116K  9.9M   2% /dev
tmpfs1013M 0 1013M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/sda2 471M   28M  420M   7% /boot
/dev/sda3 9.2G  150M  8.6G   2% /home
/dev/sda9  19G  173M   18G   1% /opt
/dev/sda7 471M   11M  437M   3% /tmp
/dev/sda5 9.2G  399M  8.4G   5% /usr
/dev/sda6 9.2G  150M  8.6G   2% /usr/local
/dev/sda10 37G  514M   35G   2% /var
/dev/sda11191G  4.0G  178G   3% /vm


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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:37:47 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:33, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:
El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:27:12 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

(...)

Resulta que cuando creas un proyecto y añades y creas también más
ramas(a parte de la de master), mediante la interfaz web de gitlab sí
que se ven todas las ramas que vas creando, pero si te descargas el
repo
con git clone url y luego quieres ver las ramas haciendo primero
git checkout y luego le lanzas un git branch para ver las ramas
disponibles, no aparece la nueva que he creado...El caso que desde la
interfaz web sí que está...

(...)

Este el primer resultado que me ha devuelto Google, dale un ojo:

After git clone , does not see branch
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3999541/after-git-clone-does-not-
see-branch

Gracias por contestar.

Sí ése enlace ya le visto y otros 100 más xDDD. No tira...

Vale, como no habías puesto las opciones -a ni -r, por eso te lo
comentaba.

Creo que es bug. Lo he reportado también como bug haber si es por la
versión de gitlab, no creo que tenga nada que ver debian...

Ya me imagino lo que van a decir: que pruebes con la última versión :-P

Gracias no obstante Camaleón.

De nada, hombre. Suerte.

Saludos,

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Me han contestado en gitlab:

This is standard git behavior. Run git branch -a and you will see
both remote and local branches. You can checkout remote branches with
git checkout origin/branch_name --track. You may need to run git
fetch before this command if the remote has changed since your last
update.

He probado pero nada...xDD.

Saludos.

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Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:52:59 -0300, tq escribió:

 Estoy viendo que en 2 equipos diferentes que cumplecon OpenVZ la salida
 del comando [1] es diferente [2] y [3].
 
 Notar que en el caso [2] se muestra además de las particiones del Host
 Anfitrión y puntualmente la /vm afectada a OpenVZ, lo que ocupa el
 primer CT virtualizado (/dev/sr0)
 
 Mientras que en el segundo caso [3] solo se muestra la partición /vz.
 
 Alguien sabe a que puede deberse la salida diferente?

(...)

No noto tantas diferencias... ¿qué es lo que encuentras extraño? Digo, 
además del punto de montaje de la unidad óptica :-?

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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:54:10 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

 El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

 Creo que es bug. Lo he reportado también como bug haber si es por la
 versión de gitlab, no creo que tenga nada que ver debian...

 Ya me imagino lo que van a decir: que pruebes con la última versión :-P

 Gracias no obstante Camaleón.

 De nada, hombre. Suerte.

 
 Me han contestado en gitlab:
 
 This is standard git behavior.  Run git branch -a and you will see both
 remote and local branches.  You can checkout remote branches with git
 checkout origin/branch_name --track.  You may need to run git fetch
 before this command if the remote has changed since your last update.
 
 He probado pero nada...xDD.

Pues eso es lo que decía el enlace que te pasé antes ¿no?

Si no funciona, díselo, con buenas formas y educadamente pero insiste, 
que muchas veces los desarrolladores tienen la mala costumbre de cerrar 
los bugs antes de tiempo :-)

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Re: Posible bug en debian con gitlab

El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:59, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:54:10 +0200, Maykel Franco escribió:

El día 23 de agosto de 2013 15:45, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
escribió:

(...)

Creo que es bug. Lo he reportado también como bug haber si es por la
versión de gitlab, no creo que tenga nada que ver debian...

Ya me imagino lo que van a decir: que pruebes con la última versión :-P

Gracias no obstante Camaleón.

De nada, hombre. Suerte.

Me han contestado en gitlab:

This is standard git behavior. Run git branch -a and you will see both
remote and local branches. You can checkout remote branches with git
checkout origin/branch_name --track. You may need to run git fetch
before this command if the remote has changed since your last update.

He probado pero nada...xDD.

Pues eso es lo que decía el enlace que te pasé antes ¿no?

Si no funciona, díselo, con buenas formas y educadamente pero insiste,
que muchas veces los desarrolladores tienen la mala costumbre de cerrar
los bugs antes de tiempo :-)

Saludos,

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OK, gracias. Lo que pase al final lo posteo por aquí por si a alguien le ayuda.

Saludos.

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Re: [OT] database administrator tools para mysql, mariadb

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 00:09:48 -0600, Carlos Carcamo escribió:

 Gracias a todos por responder
 
 Ya vi esa de navicat, pero lo que realmente busco es una alternativa
 libre, de no haber me quedare con dbearver...

¿No has visto nada interesante en la tabla de Wikipedia que te mandé? Hay 
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Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

2013-08-23 Thread tq


On 23/08/13 10:55, Camaleón wrote:

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 09:52:59 -0300, tq escribió:

   

Estoy viendo que en 2 equipos diferentes que cumplecon OpenVZ la salida
del comando [1] es diferente [2] y [3].

Notar que en el caso [2] se muestra además de las particiones del Host
Anfitrión y puntualmente la /vm afectada a OpenVZ, lo que ocupa el
primer CT virtualizado (/dev/sr0)

Mientras que en el segundo caso [3] solo se muestra la partición /vz.

Alguien sabe a que puede deberse la salida diferente?
 

(...)

No noto tantas diferencias... ¿qué es lo que encuentras extraño? Digo,
además del punto de montaje de la unidad óptica :-?

Saludos,

   

Hola.

Fijate que al final sale apuntada la partición correspondiente al CT1, 
osea, además de las particiones normales del sistema operativo, sale 
dentro de la partición /vm (que esta destinada a alojar las CTs ) la 
primera CT ya creada.


Era algo que me llamó la atención para que lo puedan chequear en sus 
instalaciones.


Muchas Gracias.

Saludos.


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Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

El ago 23, 2013 3:45 p.m., tq tqlis...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hola Grupo.

 Estoy viendo que en 2 equipos diferentes que cumplecon OpenVZ la salida
del comando [1] es diferente [2] y [3].

 Notar que en el caso [2] se muestra además de las particiones del Host
Anfitrión y puntualmente la /vm afectada a OpenVZ, lo que ocupa el primer
CT virtualizado (/dev/sr0)

 Mientras que en el segundo caso [3] solo se muestra la partición /vz.

 Alguien sabe a que puede deberse la salida diferente?

 Muchas Gracias!


 [1] df -h

 [2]
 # df -h
 S.ficherosSize  Used Avail Use% Montado en
 /dev/sda1  28G  358M   26G   2% /
 tmpfs 4,0G 0  4,0G   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev   10M  180K  9,9M   2% /dev
 tmpfs 4,0G 0  4,0G   0% /dev/shm
 /dev/sda2 939M   44M  848M   5% /boot
 /dev/sda3 184G  651M  174G   1% /home
 /dev/sda4  37G  177M   35G   1% /opt
 /dev/sda5 939M   18M  874M   2% /tmp
 /dev/sda6  37G  2,4G   33G   7% /usr
 /dev/sda7  37G  177M   35G   1% /usr/local
 /dev/sda8 184G  4,5G  170G   3% /var
 /dev/sda101,3T  920M  1,3T   1% /vm
 /dev/sr0  151M  151M 0 100% /vm/root/101/mnt/cdrom

 [3]
 # df -h
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/sda1  19G  2.2G   16G  13% /
 tmpfs1013M 0 1013M   0% /lib/init/rw
 udev   10M  116K  9.9M   2% /dev
 tmpfs1013M 0 1013M   0% /dev/shm
 /dev/sda2 471M   28M  420M   7% /boot
 /dev/sda3 9.2G  150M  8.6G   2% /home
 /dev/sda9  19G  173M   18G   1% /opt
 /dev/sda7 471M   11M  437M   3% /tmp
 /dev/sda5 9.2G  399M  8.4G   5% /usr
 /dev/sda6 9.2G  150M  8.6G   2% /usr/local
 /dev/sda10 37G  514M   35G   2% /var
 /dev/sda11191G  4.0G  178G   3% /vm


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Creo que es por la version de proxmox. Con la version 3 ha cambiado un
poquito.

Hazle en ambos pveversion haber si es la misma...

Saludos.

Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 10:37:21 -0300, tq escribió:

 On 23/08/13 10:55, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Notar que en el caso [2] se muestra además de las particiones del Host
 Anfitrión y puntualmente la /vm afectada a OpenVZ, lo que ocupa el
 primer CT virtualizado (/dev/sr0)

 Mientras que en el segundo caso [3] solo se muestra la partición /vz.

 Alguien sabe a que puede deberse la salida diferente?
  
 (...)

 No noto tantas diferencias... ¿qué es lo que encuentras extraño? Digo,
 además del punto de montaje de la unidad óptica :-?
 
 Fijate que al final sale apuntada la partición correspondiente al CT1,
 osea, además de las particiones normales del sistema operativo, sale
 dentro de la partición /vm (que esta destinada a alojar las CTs ) la
 primera CT ya creada.

(...)

Pues sigo sin ver nada extraño :-?

Compara la salida del comando mount y del contenido de /etc/fstab de 
los dos equipos a ver si arroja algo de luz.

Saludos,

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Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

2013-08-23 Thread tq


On 23/08/13 11:41, Maykel Franco wrote:


 Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52175b2b.8050...@gmail.com


Creo que es por la version de proxmox. Con la version 3 ha cambiado un 
poquito.


Hazle en ambos pveversion haber si es la misma...

Saludos.


Maykel, gracias por la respuesta.

Mira que estoy usando OpenVZ desde Debian nativo (sin Proxmox).

Salu2.


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locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

Hola.

En una máquina con Debian Stable y KDE tengo las locales configuradas así:

$ locale -a
C
C.UTF-8
es_ES.utf8
POSIX

con el sistema en utf8 y toda va bien.

En otra máquina, también con Debian Stable y KDE, con las locales configuradas 
de la misma forma pasa que, por ejemplo:

En las páginas man traducidas al castellano no se ven los acentos ni las eñes; 
xterm, sus mensajes y notificaciones salen en inglés; en el entorno gráfico, 
las 
opciones, menús de las ventanas y notificaciones, en inglés. KDM en español.

Lo del entorno gráfico se arregla si añado a las locales una ISO (p.e. 
iso.8859-15) y lo de los acentos y eñes en las man poniendo además el sistema 
con la ISO.

Pero quería tener las locales configuradas y funcionando como en la primera 
máquina, con utf8 solamente. A primera vista las dos máquinas tienen la misma 
configuración aunque es evidente que no es así: algo hay en la segunda que 
varía, comparando con la primera, la salida de las locales.  Si alguien sabe 
que tengo que hacer para conseguirlo, le agradezco la ayuda.

Un saludo


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2013-08-23 Thread kyd . is . back

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:45:38 -0300
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Ese comando no te dice que locales tenes configuradas , sino cuales
podes usar o tenes habilitadas en el sistema.

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te dice con que tipo tenes configurado el sistema.
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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

On Viernes, 23 de agosto de 2013 19:38:53 Javier San Román escribió:
 Hola.
 
 En una máquina con Debian Stable y KDE tengo las locales configuradas así:
 
 $ locale -a
 C
 C.UTF-8
 es_ES.utf8
 POSIX
 
 con el sistema en utf8 y toda va bien.
 
 En otra máquina, también con Debian Stable y KDE, con las locales
 configuradas de la misma forma pasa que, por ejemplo:
 
 En las páginas man traducidas al castellano no se ven los acentos ni las
 eñes; xterm, sus mensajes y notificaciones salen en inglés; en el entorno
 gráfico, las opciones, menús de las ventanas y notificaciones, en inglés.
 KDM en español.
 
 Lo del entorno gráfico se arregla si añado a las locales una ISO (p.e.
 iso.8859-15) y lo de los acentos y eñes en las man poniendo además el
 sistema con la ISO.
 
 Pero quería tener las locales configuradas y funcionando como en la primera
 máquina, con utf8 solamente. A primera vista las dos máquinas tienen la
 misma configuración aunque es evidente que no es así: algo hay en la
 segunda que varía, comparando con la primera, la salida de las locales. 
 Si alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conseguirlo, le agradezco la
 ayuda.
 
 Un saludo

Metedura de pata. Donde puse acento léase tilde.


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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:38:53 +0200, Javier San Román escribió:

 En una máquina con Debian Stable y KDE tengo las locales configuradas
 así:
 
 $ locale -a C
 C.UTF-8 es_ES.utf8 POSIX
 
 con el sistema en utf8 y toda va bien.
 
 En otra máquina, también con Debian Stable y KDE, con las locales
 configuradas de la misma forma pasa que, por ejemplo:
 
 En las páginas man traducidas al castellano no se ven los acentos ni las
 eñes; xterm, sus mensajes y notificaciones salen en inglés; en el
 entorno gráfico, las opciones, menús de las ventanas y notificaciones,
 en inglés. KDM en español.

Preguntonta... si ejecutas:

LANG=es_ES.utf8; man apt-get

¿Se ven mal los caracteres?

Si es así, como parece ser, ejecuta locale en el equipo que te da 
problemas y pon la salida.

 Lo del entorno gráfico se arregla si añado a las locales una ISO (p.e.
 iso.8859-15) y lo de los acentos y eñes en las man poniendo además el
 sistema con la ISO.

Compara también los paquetes que tienes instalados en ambos equipos para 
la localización del entorno gráfico y que en KDE tengas configurado UTF-8 
como predeterminado (suele estar en el apartado Regional/Idioma o 
similar).

 Pero quería tener las locales configuradas y funcionando como en la
 primera máquina, con utf8 solamente. A primera vista las dos máquinas
 tienen la misma configuración aunque es evidente que no es así: algo hay
 en la segunda que varía, comparando con la primera, la salida de las
 locales.  Si alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conseguirlo, le
 agradezco la ayuda.

Como último recurso recuerda que también puedes reconfigurar las locale 
con dpkg-reconfigure locales.

Saludos,

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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

On Viernes, 23 de agosto de 2013 19:38:53 Javier San Román escribió:
 Hola.
 
 En una máquina con Debian Stable y KDE tengo las locales configuradas así:
 
 $ locale -a
 C
 C.UTF-8
 es_ES.utf8
 POSIX
 
 con el sistema en utf8 y toda va bien.
 
 En otra máquina, también con Debian Stable y KDE, con las locales
 configuradas de la misma forma pasa que, por ejemplo:
 
 En las páginas man traducidas al castellano no se ven los acentos ni las
 eñes; xterm, sus mensajes y notificaciones salen en inglés; en el entorno
 gráfico, las opciones, menús de las ventanas y notificaciones, en inglés.
 KDM en español.
 
 Lo del entorno gráfico se arregla si añado a las locales una ISO (p.e.
 iso.8859-15) y lo de los acentos y eñes en las man poniendo además el
 sistema con la ISO.
 
 Pero quería tener las locales configuradas y funcionando como en la primera
 máquina, con utf8 solamente. A primera vista las dos máquinas tienen la
 misma configuración aunque es evidente que no es así: algo hay en la
 segunda que varía, comparando con la primera, la salida de las locales. 
 Si alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conseguirlo, le agradezco la
 ayuda.
 
 Un saludo


Así es como están en la primera máquina funcionando correctamente:

$ locale
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_TIME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_MONETARY=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_PAPER=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_NAME=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Y así es como están en la segunda funcionado también correctamente:

$ locale
LANG=es_ES@euro
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=es_ES@euro
LC_NUMERIC=es_ES@euro
LC_TIME=es_ES@euro
LC_COLLATE=es_ES@euro
LC_MONETARY=es_ES@euro
LC_MESSAGES=es_ES@euro
LC_PAPER=es_ES@euro
LC_NAME=es_ES@euro
LC_ADDRESS=es_ES@euro
LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES@euro
LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES@euro
LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES@euro
LC_ALL=


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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

On Friday, 23 de August de 2013 19:57:23 Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:38:53 +0200, Javier San Román escribió:
  En una máquina con Debian Stable y KDE tengo las locales configuradas
  así:
  
  $ locale -a C
  C.UTF-8 es_ES.utf8 POSIX
  
  con el sistema en utf8 y toda va bien.
  
  En otra máquina, también con Debian Stable y KDE, con las locales
  configuradas de la misma forma pasa que, por ejemplo:
  
  En las páginas man traducidas al castellano no se ven los acentos ni las
  eñes; xterm, sus mensajes y notificaciones salen en inglés; en el
  entorno gráfico, las opciones, menús de las ventanas y notificaciones,
  en inglés. KDM en español.
 
 Preguntonta... si ejecutas:
 
 LANG=es_ES.utf8; man apt-get
 
 ¿Se ven mal los caracteres?

Yes..digo si. Es que está todo en inglés... El manual de apt-get, como otros, 
está en castellano pero sin tildes.
 
 
 Si es así, como parece ser, ejecuta locale en el equipo que te da
 problemas y pon la salida.

$ locale
LANG=es_ES.utf8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE=es_ES.utf8
LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.utf8
LC_TIME=es_ES.utf8
LC_COLLATE=es_ES.utf8
LC_MONETARY=es_ES.utf8
LC_MESSAGES=es_ES.utf8
LC_PAPER=es_ES.utf8
LC_NAME=es_ES.utf8
LC_ADDRESS=es_ES.utf8
LC_TELEPHONE=es_ES.utf8
LC_MEASUREMENT=es_ES.utf8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=es_ES.utf8
LC_ALL=

 
  Lo del entorno gráfico se arregla si añado a las locales una ISO (p.e.
  iso.8859-15) y lo de los acentos y eñes en las man poniendo además el
  sistema con la ISO.
 
 Compara también los paquetes que tienes instalados en ambos equipos para
 la localización del entorno gráfico

Los ojos me duelen ya de comparar paquetes...

 y que en KDE tengas configurado UTF-8
 como predeterminado (suele estar en el apartado Regional/Idioma o
 similar).

Pais: España. Lenguaje: Español y no hay mas aparte de la moneda, hora, etc. 
etc.. En el otro equipo está igual y funciona bien.
 
  Pero quería tener las locales configuradas y funcionando como en la
  primera máquina, con utf8 solamente. A primera vista las dos máquinas
  tienen la misma configuración aunque es evidente que no es así: algo hay
  en la segunda que varía, comparando con la primera, la salida de las
  locales.  Si alguien sabe que tengo que hacer para conseguirlo, le
  agradezco la ayuda.
 
 Como último recurso recuerda que también puedes reconfigurar las locale
 con dpkg-reconfigure locales.

Llevo 50.. 100.. 200 veces? dándole al reconfigure haciendo todas las 
combinaciones posibles.

 
 Saludos,


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Re: Explica

2013-08-23 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El Fri, 23 Aug 2013 04:51:39 -0400
William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com escribió:

 En que te basas para afirmar semejante cosa???
 
 alguana vez configurastes solo direcciones ip para navegar . sin tener DNS , 
 dificil a eso me referia!

Todo el tiempo lo hago. Que no se pueda resolver por DNS no quiere decir que no 
se pueda conectar

Insisto: en que te basas para afirmar semejante cosa
Y por favor responde  A LA LISTA, no a mi 
 
 
 Podes tener internet sin utilizar servidores DNS, de hecho hay 
 millones de lugares a los que podes acceder sin necesidad de utilizar 
 DNSs
 
 
 Que hablas . 
 
 
 No hay que mandar fruta asi porque si.
 
 
 Fruta es la que tu mandas confundes al Foro , ella solo mostraba las 
 configuraciones de puerta enlace y direccion ip , pues aca en peru navegamos 
 con DNS de proveedores .
 
 y no reclames explica!
 
 Atte.
 
 William Romero Cachique 
 
 
 

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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

2013-08-23 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros

Ya se probó esto?

apt-get install manpages-es

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Re: Diferencias en salida df -h en OpenVZ

2013-08-23 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros

Probablemente en sea diferencia entre versiones.

Puede que por la version no se muestre la unidad, o por que no esta montada
no se vea.


2013/8/23 tq tqlis...@gmail.com

 On 23/08/13 11:41, Maykel Franco wrote:


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 Creo que es por la version de proxmox. Con la version 3 ha cambiado un
 poquito.

 Hazle en ambos pveversion haber si es la misma...

 Saludos.

  Maykel, gracias por la respuesta.

 Mira que estoy usando OpenVZ desde Debian nativo (sin Proxmox).

 Salu2.



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Re: Desinstalar Apache, PHP5, MySql

2013-08-23 Thread Roberto José Blandino Cisneros

Calmaos, creo que se han salido de la tangente, en lugar de resolver un
problema se han quedado en lo que dicen y que dijeron.

Juan, yo ya he tenido la experiencia que un simple apt-get --purge remove
paquete no se borra completamente, por lo que por experiencia te sugiero
que pruebes con aptitude.

aptitude remove paquete
aptitude purge paquete

Ejecuta esos dos comandos uno a la vez y  con esto tendras resuelto la
eliminacion del paquete o los paquetes por completo.

Para limpiar y volver desde cero solo pon los paquetes principales y esto
limpiara todo.

aptitude remove Apache2 php5 mysql-server
aptitude purge Apache2 php5 mysql-server

Con esto podras empezar de nuevo desde cero.

Ahora con esto resuelves el problema de una mala configuración y estoy
seguro que el problema que planteabas, no hay problema en practicar en una
maquina real, sin embargo una virtual te ofrece herramientas como hacer
snapshoots que te permiten retornar a un estado anterior en caso de errores.

Sin embargo puedes continuar trabajando con una maquina no virtual sin
embargo es un poco tedioso estar esperando que se desinstalen los paquetes
y se vuelvan a instalar.

Saludes Juan y espero esto resuelva tu problema.

Por experiencia si apt-get no me resuelve yo he usado aptitude.

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Agradezco sus respuestas y doy por cerrado el tema.

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Re: locales, utf-8, acentos y eñes.

On Friday, 23 de August de 2013 23:49:23 Roberto José Blandino Cisneros 
escribió:
 Ya se probó esto?
 
 apt-get install manpages-es

Gracias por el interés mostrado pero lee con detenimiento los correos 
anteriores. Y por favor, no utilizes html y no envies al privado.


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banshee no reproduce wma mp3, etc

2013-08-23 Thread 2008404186

he buscado en internet cómo reproducir formatos como mp3 y wma; en 
general parece algo muy sencillo; abrir /etc/apt/sources.list, agregar 
unas líneas y luego instalar w64codecs (ya que la arquitectura de mi pc 
es amd64), pero aún así no logro reproducir ningún otro formato más allá 
de los soportados de forma nativa por debian.

¿alguna idea de qué me está fallando?

/etc/apt/sources.list aparece así en nano:


# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
Binary-1 $


#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST 
Binary-1 2$


deb http://mmc.geofisica.unam.mx/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://mmc.geofisica.unam.mx/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://mmc.geofisica.unam.mx/debian/ wheezy-updates main
deb-src http://mmc.geofisica.unam.mx/debian/ wheezy-updates main
deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib
deb-src http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib 
non-fr$

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free
deb-src http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free


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Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

2013-08-23 Thread Francisco Aparecido da Silva

Os  fabrincantes  de  pc's  projetam o equipamento para trabalhar tanto na
horizontal  quanto na vertical; Até mesmo invertido, o que a longo prazo
serve  como  depósito  de  poeira.  Acredito  que  a  posição do disco não
interfere, ao contrário dos grandes discos antigos; 

att
On 22/08/13 at 08:24pm, Fábio de Sousa wrote:
 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:24:44 -0300
 From: Fábio de Sousa fabi...@gmail.com
 To: DUP debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Subject: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

 Um salve a todos!

 Alguém saberia me dizer, com certeza, se existe algum problema, o Hard Disk
 trabalhar na vertical?

 Abraço,
 Fábiocs

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Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

2013-08-23 Thread Rafael Bedendo

Se houvesse qualquer problema, será que os desktops da Dell como os 
optiplex que tem 3 anos de garantia viriam com os discos na vertical?


Abraço

Rafael Bedendo



Em 23/08/2013 07:52, Francisco Aparecido da Silva escreveu:

Os  fabrincantes  de  pc's  projetam o equipamento para trabalhar tanto na
horizontal  quanto na vertical; Até mesmo invertido, o que a longo prazo
serve  como  depósito  de  poeira.  Acredito  que  a  posição do disco não
interfere, ao contrário dos grandes discos antigos;

att
On 22/08/13 at 08:24pm, Fábio de Sousa wrote:

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:24:44 -0300
From: Fábio de Sousa fabi...@gmail.com
To: DUP debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
Subject: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

Um salve a todos!

Alguém saberia me dizer, com certeza, se existe algum problema, o Hard Disk
trabalhar na vertical?

Abraço,
Fábiocs


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Re: Servidor travando

2013-08-23 Thread P. J.

Que aula... muito bom o post... agora uma dúvida... e depois Hélio, vc
tomou alguma medida preventiva para tentar impedir que isso acontecesse
novamente? ou deixou aquela configuração do post?

Abs


Em 22 de agosto de 2013 22:08, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Veja se isso ajuda:


 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/22-seguranca/security/196-o-dia-em-que-sofri-um-ataque-de-ddos

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 17:01, Marcelo Silva marguimsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Cara, pensei exatamente nisso, estou fazendo um teste com o nginx agora
 no servidor de homologação e vi até uma melhora. já tenho o cacti aqui
 monitorando e em relação a banda não é problema.

 Marcelo


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 16:02, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Se possível usá o nginx ou lightpd, eles usam eventos no lugar de threads
 como o apache. Monitora com top primeiramente, depois instala um nagios,
 zabix ou cacti e vê o consumo de banda, processos e etc. A partir daí você
 vai vê se é sobrecarga ou outro tipo de problema.






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Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

Invertido tem o problema dos contatos eletrõnicos ficarem expostos pra
poeira, que a longo prazo é corrosiva.

O restante, pela velocidade e pelo invólucro ser lacrado à vácuo, a
gravidade não faz muita diferença.

Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


Em 23 de agosto de 2013 08:11, Rafael Bedendo
rafael.bede...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Se houvesse qualquer problema, será que os desktops da Dell como os
 optiplex que tem 3 anos de garantia viriam com os discos na vertical?

 Abraço

 Rafael Bedendo



 Em 23/08/2013 07:52, Francisco Aparecido da Silva escreveu:

  Os  fabrincantes  de  pc's  projetam o equipamento para trabalhar tanto na
 horizontal  quanto na vertical; Até mesmo invertido, o que a longo prazo
 serve  como  depósito  de  poeira.  Acredito  que  a  posição do disco não
 interfere, ao contrário dos grandes discos antigos;

 att
 On 22/08/13 at 08:24pm, Fábio de Sousa wrote:

 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:24:44 -0300
 From: Fábio de Sousa fabi...@gmail.com
 To: DUP 
 debian-user-portuguese@lists.**debian.orgdebian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 
 Subject: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

 Um salve a todos!

 Alguém saberia me dizer, com certeza, se existe algum problema, o Hard
 Disk
 trabalhar na vertical?

 Abraço,
 Fábiocs


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Re: Apache2 Tomcat7

2013-08-23 Thread Gustavo Goulart

Greyson, bom dia!

Foi de grande ajuda. Obrigado! 
Procurei antes no google e achei diversos artigos trabalhosos. Sua dica foi 
simples e funcional.

Valeu.


 
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 De: Aparecido Quesada professorques...@gmail.com
Para: Greyson Farias greysonsi...@gmail.com 
Cc: Forum Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org 
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 22 de Agosto de 2013 11:15
Assunto: Re: Apache2 Tomcat7
 


Bom dia 
Aqui apareceu acesso restrito, tinha que inserir algum login?

Abraços


2013/8/21 Greyson Farias greysonsi...@gmail.com

Olá Gustavo,

Aqui está: 
http://www.softwarelivre-ac.org/areas/geral/65-servidores/101-how-to-servidor-de-aplicacoes-java-tomcat-integrado-com-o-apache-2.html

Espero que ajude.




Greyson Farias da Silva
Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODF.
http://about.me/greysonfarias




Em 21 de agosto de 2013 17:32, Gustavo Goulart gust.goul...@yahoo.com.br 
escreveu:


Ola lista, boa noite!


 Pessoal, tenho uma aplicação aqui usando Oracle e tomcat6 no debian squeeze. 
O oracle esta em uma máquina separada com Oracle Linux. Atualizei o debian 
para a versão 7 onde ja tenho os pacotes tomcat7 todos em .deb. 



Alguem ai conhece um bom link para integrar o apache2 com tomcat7  ???




Estou apanhando feio aqui.


Agradeço ajudas.

 
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Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

2013-08-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, at 11:24, Helio Loureiro wrote:
 Invertido tem o problema dos contatos eletrõnicos ficarem expostos pra 
 poeira, que a longo prazo é corrosiva.
 
 O restante, pela velocidade e pelo invólucro ser lacrado à vácuo, a gravidade 
 não faz muita diferença.

Os HDs modernos [para uso doméstico] não são lacrados à vácuo (não sei o
motivo, provavelmente economia no processo de fabricação), mas possuem
um tremendo filtro anti-partícula no respiro de equalização de pressão
(que aliás nunca deve ser bloqueado), então dá na mesma com relação à
poeira.  Não cubra o respiro, e não deixe acumular pó na placa
eletrônica, e pronto.

Agora, por algum motivo eu não tenho tido muita sorte com HDs Seagate
Barracuda na posição vertical em aplicação NAS doméstica, e agora até o
firmware deles parece que está sabotado para sacanear o consumidor (não
registra permanentemente os erros de leitura causados por setores
fracos e nem remapeia esses setores, então nem dá para acionar a
garantia).

Alguém sabe onde encontrar HDD Hitachi 3TB+ SATA no Brasil?  Se souber,
me envia em PVT.

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
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Re: Servidor travando

2013-08-23 Thread Rodrigo B Brasil

Hélio, o ModSecurity não funcionaria nesse teu caso?


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2013/8/23 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Que aula... muito bom o post... agora uma dúvida... e depois Hélio, vc
 tomou alguma medida preventiva para tentar impedir que isso acontecesse
 novamente? ou deixou aquela configuração do post?

 Abs


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 22:08, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Veja se isso ajuda:


 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/22-seguranca/security/196-o-dia-em-que-sofri-um-ataque-de-ddos

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 17:01, Marcelo Silva 
 marguimsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Cara, pensei exatamente nisso, estou fazendo um teste com o nginx agora
 no servidor de homologação e vi até uma melhora. já tenho o cacti aqui
 monitorando e em relação a banda não é problema.

 Marcelo


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 16:02, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Se possível usá o nginx ou lightpd, eles usam eventos no lugar de
 threads como o apache. Monitora com top primeiramente, depois instala um
 nagios, zabix ou cacti e vê o consumo de banda, processos e etc. A partir
 daí você vai vê se é sobrecarga ou outro tipo de problema.






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 | : :'  :
 | `. `'`
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Re: Servidor travando

Não dá pra evitar ataques DDoS.  Sempre tem um espírito de porco mandando
um em cima de site, blog, etc.  Então tem de estar pronto.

O grande problema foi que com o firewall ativo, o iptables ia consumindo
memória, e com root level.  Isso ia até travar.  Com os tempos menores que
coloquei, o iptables começou a descartar as sessões, e isso mitigou a coisa.

Daria pra arrumar também colocando limites de conexões por porta.

Os ataques estão mais esporádicos, mas acontecem pelo menos a cada 3
meses.   Atualmente não fazem nem cócegas.

E 100% dos hosts zumbis, que ficam gravados no log do apache, são windows.
Nenhum com IP repetido.

Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


Em 23 de agosto de 2013 09:28, P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Que aula... muito bom o post... agora uma dúvida... e depois Hélio, vc
 tomou alguma medida preventiva para tentar impedir que isso acontecesse
 novamente? ou deixou aquela configuração do post?

 Abs


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 22:08, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Veja se isso ajuda:


 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/22-seguranca/security/196-o-dia-em-que-sofri-um-ataque-de-ddos

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 17:01, Marcelo Silva 
 marguimsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Cara, pensei exatamente nisso, estou fazendo um teste com o nginx agora
 no servidor de homologação e vi até uma melhora. já tenho o cacti aqui
 monitorando e em relação a banda não é problema.

 Marcelo


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 16:02, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Se possível usá o nginx ou lightpd, eles usam eventos no lugar de
 threads como o apache. Monitora com top primeiramente, depois instala um
 nagios, zabix ou cacti e vê o consumo de banda, processos e etc. A partir
 daí você vai vê se é sobrecarga ou outro tipo de problema.






 --
 |  .''`.   A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas.
 | : :'  :
 | `. `'`
 |   `-   Je vois tout

Re: Servidor travando

Meu problema não foi o apache, foi o iptables mesmo.

Os hosts mandavam pacotes SYN, e não respondiam mais.  O default do TCP é
aguardar resposta por 2 horas.  Agora imagina o firewall reservando memória
pra manter o estado da conexão e recebendo 100 request/s.  Uma hora a coisa
trava.

BTW, sem terminar o triple handshake do TCP, o Apache nem vê o que chega.

Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


Em 23 de agosto de 2013 11:59, Rodrigo B Brasil
rodrigobbra...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Hélio, o ModSecurity não funcionaria nesse teu caso?


 --
 Rodrigo Bezerra Brasil
 Belém, PA, BR

 Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work done.
 -Linus Torvalds




 2013/8/23 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Que aula... muito bom o post... agora uma dúvida... e depois Hélio, vc
 tomou alguma medida preventiva para tentar impedir que isso acontecesse
 novamente? ou deixou aquela configuração do post?

  Abs


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 22:08, Helio Loureiro 
 he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Veja se isso ajuda:


 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/22-seguranca/security/196-o-dia-em-que-sofri-um-ataque-de-ddos

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 17:01, Marcelo Silva 
 marguimsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Cara, pensei exatamente nisso, estou fazendo um teste com o nginx agora
 no servidor de homologação e vi até uma melhora. já tenho o cacti aqui
 monitorando e em relação a banda não é problema.

 Marcelo


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 16:02, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Se possível usá o nginx ou lightpd, eles usam eventos no lugar de
 threads como o apache. Monitora com top primeiramente, depois instala um
 nagios, zabix ou cacti e vê o consumo de banda, processos e etc. A partir
 daí você vai vê se é sobrecarga ou outro tipo de problema.






 --
 |  .''`.   A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas.
 | : :'  :
 | `. `'`
 |   `-   Je vois tout

Re: Servidor travando

Esse são os gráficos de tráfego atualmente.

TCP: http://twitpic.com/d9wbey

IPTABLES (ipconntrack): http://twitpic.com/d9wbhy

Esse gráficos são *normalizados* pra baixo, já que são médias anuais.  Nos
gráficos diários, os picos são bem maiores.  Mas não fazem nem cócegas.

Abs,
Helio Loureiro
http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


Em 23 de agosto de 2013 13:34, Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Meu problema não foi o apache, foi o iptables mesmo.

 Os hosts mandavam pacotes SYN, e não respondiam mais.  O default do TCP é
 aguardar resposta por 2 horas.  Agora imagina o firewall reservando memória
 pra manter o estado da conexão e recebendo 100 request/s.  Uma hora a coisa
 trava.

 BTW, sem terminar o triple handshake do TCP, o Apache nem vê o que chega.

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 23 de agosto de 2013 11:59, Rodrigo B Brasil 
 rodrigobbra...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Hélio, o ModSecurity não funcionaria nesse teu caso?


 --
 Rodrigo Bezerra Brasil
 Belém, PA, BR

 Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work
 done.
 -Linus Torvalds




 2013/8/23 P. J. pjotam...@gmail.com

 Que aula... muito bom o post... agora uma dúvida... e depois Hélio, vc
 tomou alguma medida preventiva para tentar impedir que isso acontecesse
 novamente? ou deixou aquela configuração do post?

  Abs


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 22:08, Helio Loureiro 
 he...@loureiro.eng.brescreveu:

 Veja se isso ajuda:


 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br/index.php/22-seguranca/security/196-o-dia-em-que-sofri-um-ataque-de-ddos

 Abs,
 Helio Loureiro
 http://helio.loureiro.eng.br
 http://br.linkedin.com/in/helioloureiro
 http://twitter.com/helioloureiro
 http://gplus.to/helioloureiro


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 17:01, Marcelo Silva 
 marguimsi...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Cara, pensei exatamente nisso, estou fazendo um teste com o nginx
 agora no servidor de homologação e vi até uma melhora. já tenho o cacti
 aqui monitorando e em relação a banda não é problema.

 Marcelo


 Em 22 de agosto de 2013 16:02, d4n1 d4n1h...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Se possível usá o nginx ou lightpd, eles usam eventos no lugar de
 threads como o apache. Monitora com top primeiramente, depois instala um
 nagios, zabix ou cacti e vê o consumo de banda, processos e etc. A partir
 daí você vai vê se é sobrecarga ou outro tipo de problema.






 --
 |  .''`.   A fé não dá respostas. Só impede perguntas.
 | : :'  :
 | `. `'`
 |   `-   Je vois tout

Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

2013-08-23 Thread André Luiz

Tenho um HD de 750G da Seagate e acho que ele também está apresentando esse 
erro de não remapear setores com defeito. As mensagens que aparecem no dmesg 
são essas:

[ 4968.526607] scsi 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[ 4968.526612] scsi 6:0:0:0: [sdb]  Result: hostbyte=0x00 driverbyte=0x00
[ 4968.526617] scsi 6:0:0:0: [sdb] CDB: cdb[0]=0x28: 28 00 57 54 66 00 00 00 
08 00
[ 4968.526630] end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 1465148928
[ 4968.526635] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143616
[ 4968.526671] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143616
[ 4968.526695] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143644
[ 4968.526700] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143644
[ 4968.526710] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0
[ 4968.526714] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 0
[ 4968.526722] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 1
[ 4968.526732] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143645
[ 4968.526739] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143645
[ 4968.526745] Buffer I/O error on device sdb, logical block 183143645


Esses erros ocorrem depois de montar o HD e não realizar nenhuma atividade 
nele, de forma que parece que o disco entra em um modo stand by. Ao escrever 
ou listar um diretório, os erros surgem. Geralmente as 4 primeiras linhas 
apenas que são mostradas, as linhas com mensagens de Buffer I/O error 
aparecem de vez em quando. Já rodei fsck e badblocks, mas não foram 
encontrados problemas.  Vai ver é isso que o amigo Helio disse.
Ah, isso acontece independente da posição do HD, pois não uso ele na vertical.

On Friday 23 August 2013 11:54:38 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 23, 2013, at 11:24, Helio Loureiro wrote:
  Invertido tem o problema dos contatos eletrõnicos ficarem expostos pra
  poeira, que a longo prazo é corrosiva.
  
  O restante, pela velocidade e pelo invólucro ser lacrado à vácuo, a
  gravidade não faz muita diferença.
 Os HDs modernos [para uso doméstico] não são lacrados à vácuo (não sei o
 motivo, provavelmente economia no processo de fabricação), mas possuem
 um tremendo filtro anti-partícula no respiro de equalização de pressão
 (que aliás nunca deve ser bloqueado), então dá na mesma com relação à
 poeira.  Não cubra o respiro, e não deixe acumular pó na placa
 eletrônica, e pronto.
 
 Agora, por algum motivo eu não tenho tido muita sorte com HDs Seagate
 Barracuda na posição vertical em aplicação NAS doméstica, e agora até o
 firmware deles parece que está sabotado para sacanear o consumidor (não
 registra permanentemente os erros de leitura causados por setores
 fracos e nem remapeia esses setores, então nem dá para acionar a
 garantia).
 
 Alguém sabe onde encontrar HDD Hitachi 3TB+ SATA no Brasil?  Se souber,
 me envia em PVT.


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Mensagem no Servidor Proxy

2013-08-23 Thread Henrique Rosa

Boa tarde a todos!
Estou com um problema no servidor proxy da empresa.
Ele vem apresentando uma msg que acredito seja problemas no hd.

Seguinte:
[838954.768106] ata5.00:exception emask 0x0 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x0 action 0x6
Frozen
[838954.771425] ata5.00 :failed command identify device
[838954.774688] ata5.00 cmd ec/00:01:00:00/00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in
res 40/00:ff?00...emask 0x4 (timeout)
[838954.774690] ata5.00:status: {DRDY}

Alguem sabe dizer que msg é esta e se existe algo que possa fazer para
resolver?

Obrigadão , desde já !

Grande abraço a todos !

Re: Mensagem no Servidor Proxy

2013-08-23 Thread Greyson Farias

Aparentemente é um log do Dmesg e sim, é disco rígido.
O que eu faria é utilizar um Live CD/DVD/USB para realizar um fsck na
partição e verificar se resolve.
Se for problema físico, aí prepare-se para um backup, se possível e
substituir o disco.

Att.

*Greyson Farias da Silva*
Técnico em Operação de redes - CREA/AC 9329TD
Eu prefiro receber documentos em ODFhttp://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument
.
http://about.me/greysonfarias



Em 23 de agosto de 2013 14:21, Henrique Rosa henrique.li...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Boa tarde a todos!
 Estou com um problema no servidor proxy da empresa.
 Ele vem apresentando uma msg que acredito seja problemas no hd.

 Seguinte:
 [838954.768106] ata5.00:exception emask 0x0 Sact 0x0 Serr 0x0 action 0x6
 Frozen
 [838954.771425] ata5.00 :failed command identify device
 [838954.774688] ata5.00 cmd ec/00:01:00:00/00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in
 res 40/00:ff?00...emask 0x4 (timeout)
 [838954.774690] ata5.00:status: {DRDY}

 Alguem sabe dizer que msg é esta e se existe algo que possa fazer para
 resolver?

 Obrigadão , desde já !

 Grande abraço a todos !

Re: FIREWALL - Capturar senhas de acessos das páginas

2013-08-23 Thread Luther Blissett

On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 10:34 -0300, Christian Rosa wrote: 
 Pois é,
 
 Nunca pensei que pegaria um caso desses, para mim na verdade é um
 desafio de certa forma, só que tem toda uma questão até mesmo de
 privacidade. Eu não queria entraria no mérito social da questão,
 contudo já estou nele. Eu até já conversei com ele no contexto de
 privacidade, outra alternativa, mas ELE é o PAI, não sou pisicologo e
 nem tenho conhecimento semelhante para indica-lo o que é melhor.
 
 Tecnicamente se existir um metódo que com software livre eu possa
 atende-lo e ajuda-lo, farei por 2 motivos; 1- O desafio do trabalho
 técnico, conhecimento e etc. 2- Posso estar cooperando com uma pessoa
 que talvez esteja em sérios apuros,
 
 Quando da conversa, ele se demonstrou bem atucanado, quando atendeu
 seu celular, falou para outra pessoa do outro lado da linha Estou
 passando por problemas familiares, ai fiquei tenso, por que vi que a
 coisa é séria, não é um pai querendo xeretar os filhos.
 
 Abraço a todos !
 
 

Isso é violação de direito humano fundamental e se você fizer, eu
ficarei feliz em denunciar. Você e seu chefe. 


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Re: Res: Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical

2013-08-23 Thread Luther Blissett

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 01:26 +, jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br wrote:
 Apesar disso, a alguns anos atrás, aqui nesta mesma lista, levantou-se
 uma determinada marca que tinha problemas, digo, característica de
 estragar/degradar os discos na posição vertical, mesmo q devidamente
 ímobilizado o computador. Pode nao existir mais esta característica
 nesta determinada. marca/modelo, porem esta pergunta, a alguns anos
 atrás, seria mto pertinente. Hoje talvez nem tanto. Ou nao. :) 
 
 []'s
 
 Julio 
 Enviado pelo meu aparelho BlackBerry®
 
 __
 From: Helio Loureiro he...@loureiro.eng.br
 Sender: helio.loure...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 22:06:18 -0300
 To: DUPdebian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: [OFFTOPIC] HD na vertical
 

Talvez tenha sido eu, talvez não. Eu tive um problema com um HD Externo
da Seagate há uns três anos. Ele começou a apresentar badblocks
rapidamente e frequentemente superaquecia e desmontava automaticamente.
Um belo dia parou completamente de funcionar, consegui tirar apenas uma
parte dos dados que estavam nele e perdi um monte de coisas.

Como estava na garantia consegui a troca por um equivalente. A
assistência técnica da empresa disse não ter conseguido identificar o
problema, mas cogitaram a posição do HD ou defeito na fonte de energia.

Não sei o que foi, talvez o HD tivesse um defeito de fabricação. Fato é
que o HD substituto nunca apresentou qualquer problema e está deitado
desde sempre. Se você me oferecer o preço de um novo eu faço o teste e
deixo ele em pé pra ver o que acontece... :D 


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question to live-build

2013-08-23 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich

Hi folks, 

I hope, someone is more experienced with live-build than me.

The problem:
I have set up a live-build for kali-linux, which I want often build for new 
updates. But I do not want to download the whole stuff every time, so I am 
using apt-cacher-ng, which is working perfectly 

I also want to avoid the installing and unpacking of the whole stuff at every 
run, if this is possible. And I want just to download newer or additionally 
stuff, of course.

Now my question:
What is the best command before any build?
lb clean? lb clean --binary? lb clean --cache? lb clean --chroot?

At the moment I am just using lb clean, and it works well, except it unpackes 
all packages every time.

I creates a little script for me, which I attached. Nothing special, jsut to 
make things easier, You can use and change it in any way you want. 

This script will be improved and released by me, as soon as I understand live-
build better.


Thanks for your help.

Best regards

Hans 


kali-build.sh
Description: application/shellscript

Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-23 Thread Joel Rees

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:22 PM, 郭靖 rush@gmail.com wrote:
 在 2013年8月22日星期四UTC+8下午6时50分01秒，Ralf Mardorf写道：
 [...]
  but I chose the wrong place for GRUB, at last it didn't run well.

 More information is needed to comment this.

Maybe the wrong partition?

  mc looks fine and I may tried out.
 mcedit is the command to access it's editor directly and
 mcedit /path/to/file/foo will open the editor and a file directly. nano
 is another easy to use editor, but you should know the basics how to use
 vi, or vim, since those are the editors that usually are separated from
 the rest of the userspace and available if everything should be broken
 on UNIX like systems.
[...]

 I think you misunderstood, mc here means Midnight Commander, a file manager.

What he means by mcedit is the Midnight Commander editor. It's built
into mc. Some people find it convenient.

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Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

As already mentioned by somebody else. You don't need a text based
install to learn how to use Linux by command line interface.

Using a desktop environment you can start a terminal emulation by a
graphical user interface or you can push

Ctrl + Alt + F-Keys

Using mc as file manager would be counterproductive to learn the basics.
FWIW I'm using a desktop environment, but I rarely use a file manager, I
prefer to use the command line interface ls, cd, mkdir, touch, mv, rm,
rmdir. It's not needed to type each command, just type the first letters
and then push the tab-key. The tab key also does complete a path, just
type the beginning of a path and the tab key usually can complete parts
of it.

As others already mentioned, at least mail user agents and web browsers
are available text based. I don't know if an IRC client is available,
but as somebody already mentioned, there's something called ncurses.
Ncurses could be described as a pseudo-graphical user interface for the
command line interface, so e.g. search for ncurses irc client or test
based irc client.

With google ncurses irc client I e.g. get Console IRC Clients
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IRC/console.html

Before users ask questions they should search by their own, but a
beginner hardly can do this, because newbies don't know the needed
terms, that are needed to e.g. search the web, so feel free to ask on
this list.

Hth,
Ralf




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Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-23 Thread Jeff Bauer


On 08/23/2013 05:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

I don't know if an IRC client is available


irssi for the hardcore; weechat for the fledgling 'leet

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Query reg ifupdown 0.7.8 not bringing down all network interfaces.

2013-08-23 Thread sathishkumar kanagaraj

Hi All,

'ifdown -a --exclude=lo' option not bringing down all the
interface(bond  VLAN) in wheezy.

auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
auto bond0
iface bond0 inet static
address 192.168.1.133
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.1.1
pre-up modprobe -q bonding mode=6 miimon=100 updelay=16500
downdelay=200 max_bonds=1
pre-up ifconfig bond0 up
pre-up /sbin/ifenslave bond0 eth0 eth1
down /sbin/ifenslave -d  bond0 eth0 eth1
mtu 1500
auto bond0.2
iface bond0.2 inet dhcp
vlan-raw-device bond0
pre-up ifconfig bond0.2 mtu 1500
auto bond0.3
iface bond0.3 inet dhcp
vlan-raw-device bond0
pre-up ifconfig bond0.3 mtu 1500

Please help.
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Rasbian problem at update

2013-08-23 Thread Frank Lanitz

Hi folks,

I'm getting a strange issue with latest wheezy raspbian-image. At doing
an update with apt-get it's stopping:
- Log at https://pastebin.geany.org/dfFyh/

Anybody an idea what is going wrong here?

cheers,
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Re: Rasbian problem at update

2013-08-23 Thread basti

Try the following

http://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-update-errors/2011/12/16
http://askubuntu.com/questions/262742/apt-get-update-errors-cant-read-the-package-lists
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=34165p=294692

regards,
basti


On 23.08.2013 13:44, Frank Lanitz wrote:
 Hi folks,

 I'm getting a strange issue with latest wheezy raspbian-image. At doing
 an update with apt-get it's stopping:
 - Log at https://pastebin.geany.org/dfFyh/

 Anybody an idea what is going wrong here?

 cheers,
 Frank




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RE: openvpn question

2013-08-23 Thread Bonno Bloksma

Hi Gregory,

 Gregory Nowak wrote:
 The public address assigned to the laptop would actually be 
 configured on the VPS,
 
 Hmm...  No.  Sorry.  Doesn't make sense.  The public address assigned 
 to the laptop would probably be yet another private address behind a 
 NAT somewhere.

 Ok, some confusion here it seems. Both you and I are right in that the 
 laptop's
 public address is assigned to the VPS, and is also in reality yet another
 private address behind a NAT somewhere like you said. I'll explain below,
 since I do in fact have this going as I mentioned in my latest post to
 the VPS crashing thread.

I have been following this and I think it is getting clear what you are doing 
but I have lost what the problem is we are trying to resolve.

If I understand it right your setup is something like:

VPS has network 1.2.3.0/24 (mask 255.255.255.0)
Uplink ip 1.2.3.1
VPS public ip 1.2.3.2
Laptop wants to use 1.2.3.3

dns vps
vps.company.org A 1.2.3.2

vps interfaces file
iface eth0
 address 1.2.3.2
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 gateway 1.2.3.1

iface eth0:0
  address 1.2.3.3
  netmask 255.255.255.0


openvpn server config
port 1194
proto udp
dev tun
server 10.1.1.0/24 255.255.255.0
etc.

openvpn client config
client
dev tun
proto udp
remote vps.company.org 1194
etc.

Somehow you have made sure client always gets same 10.1.1.x number, for 
instance 10.1.1.3

Via iptables you make sure any traffic coming in on the VPS server with 
destination 1.2.3.3 is going to the VPN ip of the laptop
And vice versa any traffic coming from the laptop vpn ip get sent out with the 
source 1.2.3.3
openvpn server iptables
iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 1.2.3.3 -j DNAT --to 10.1.1.3
iptables -t nat -A POSTOUTING -s 10.1.1.3 -j SNAT --to 1.2.3.3

What is it that is not working? If you think we can solve the problem better by 
supplying the real configs then please do so.

Bonno Bloksma


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Re: Missing Makefile


On 8/23/2013 12:36 AM, Kailash wrote:

On Thursday 22 August 2013 09:32 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 8/22/2013 1:50 AM, Kailash wrote:

On Monday 05 August 2013 08:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

On 8/4/2013 5:22 PM, Tom H wrote:

On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 22:11:16 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
On 8/3/2013 10:30 AM, Tom H wrote:
   
Do the following four symlinks exist on your box
(for 3.2 of course).
   
/lib/modules/3.10-1-amd64/build -
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.10-1-amd64
   
/lib/modules/3.10-1-amd64/source -
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.10-1-common
   
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.10-1-amd64/scripts -
/usr/lib/linux-kbuild-3.10/scripts
   
/usr/src/linux-headers-3.10-1-common/scripts -
/usr/lib/linux-kbuild-3.10/scripts
   
Yes, all of the symlinks are there. Any other ideas?

None given that the only clue is I can't run make and everything
else
is OK.

Your broken setup might be fixed by re-installing linux-headers and
linux-kbuild.




Thanks, but I've already done that twice.  It's got me.

Guess I'm going to have to just dump this system and start from scratch.
   Fortunately, it's only a test system I built to test the new
module(s).



Hi Jerry,

Reinstalling the system won't help.

I used packages.debian.org to figure this out and followed the solution
listed here:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=62877sid=fa12a2b8afd8827ef9ce71e8826d049fstart=15


Have you installed the package dkms?

This in turn should install the package linux-kbuild-3.2 which includes
the needed scripts.

Sincerely,
Kailash




Thanks, Kailash, but I've already seen that (and several other)
solutions.  linux-kbuild-3.2 is installed.  I tried it with dkms
installed also, with no change.

Meanwhile, since we haven't been able to get this working, we may have
to do it under Windows.   And I hate windows, but we have to get this
working.  The old OS/2 system is on it's last legs.



Hi Jerry,

If you don't mind, I'd like to look at some things if you're still up
for it. I'll try and do a repro on my end.

Could you post the contents of your sources.list file?

Also could you show a listing of the relevant packages installed?

Thanks,
Kailash




Kailash,

I really appreciate the offer, but we've had to move on.  We've got a 
Windows driver written, and will be testing it soon (when some other 
equipment becomes available).  Not a great solution, IMHO, but we do 
what's necessary.


I know a good part of the problem is my unfamiliarity with Linux.  I 
prefer it to Windows for many things, but in this case it was a matter 
of time and economics; we spent a lot of time (which means money) trying 
to figure out why it wasn't working.  Finally we had to go another route.


Maybe in the future; I don't know.  It's not my call.

Jerry


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Re: Missing Makefile

On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 12:02 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 I tried it with dkms installed also, with no change.

Hi Jerry,

today I read the whole thread. The common way to build modules for a
kernel is to use dkms and I experienced it as always working for me. How
did you run dkms and what output did you get? Did you only install dkms
and then run another command ;)?

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 09:28 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 I really appreciate the offer, but we've had to move on. 
 
 I know a good part of the problem is my unfamiliarity with Linux.

That's your choice, but you unlikely will become familiar with Linux,
when you move on ignoring Linux.

However, if you one day should have time and be interested how to use
dkms, than ask again, but provide the dkms command you run and it's
output, to help us, to help you.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Missing Makefile


On 8/23/2013 10:40 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 12:02 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

I tried it with dkms installed also, with no change.


Hi Jerry,

today I read the whole thread. The common way to build modules for a
kernel is to use dkms and I experienced it as always working for me. How
did you run dkms and what output did you get? Did you only install dkms
and then run another command ;)?

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 09:28 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

I really appreciate the offer, but we've had to move on.

I know a good part of the problem is my unfamiliarity with Linux.


That's your choice, but you unlikely will become familiar with Linux,
when you move on ignoring Linux.

However, if you one day should have time and be interested how to use
dkms, than ask again, but provide the dkms command you run and it's
output, to help us, to help you.

Regards,
Ralf




Ralf,

Yes, I did have DKMS installed, but don't remember exactly what I did at 
the time.


But this is not a hobby project.  There is a limit on how much time 
(both calendar and financially) we can spend trying to get something to 
work.  It has been decided that since we can get a Windows driver 
working in fairly short time, that is the way things will be done.


As I said - the original (OS/2 based) controller has been running fine 
for probably 15 years or more, but there is significant concern that in 
the case of failure, it will not be possible to repair it.  So a more 
modern solution is required.  As an old OS/2 programmer (which is why I 
got involved - I didn't write the original code but can understand how 
it works), I pushed for Linux as a better solution.  However, that will 
not happen now, and there is no interest in further pursuit of a Linux 
solution.


It's a shame - I think the code is pretty close to what's needed (it is 
the first shot, after all).


One other thing - I don't believe DKMS is required at this time.  This 
is a dedicated controller which will not be constantly updated with new 
kernels.  And if a new kernel is installed, there will be significant 
testing done offline before being placed online.  Part of that testing 
will be to rebuild the all code necessary, including this module (there 
is other application layer code involved, but this is the only kernel 
module).


Jerry


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Re: Missing Makefile

_Unfortunately_ in real live, when we need to earn an honest penny,
Linux is 99,% of all user cases completely unusable
excepted of servers. The people who now will mention that this isn't
true, claim that they made a living with using Linux only, are likely
people with a research assignment and/or teaching assignment or their
job is to be daughter or son, born in a rich family ;).

However, I anyway decided to use Linux only and to drop jobs where
standard technology is needed, but nobody can expect that everybody will
do the same. If everybody would do it, our societies would run into
serious issues ;). Even my decision isn't based on anything that has to
do with Linux ;), I'm just sick of working as an engineer, following
fashions I don't like and today prefer to do social work ... but I'm
jobless now, so t doesn't work that good ;).

IOW you don't need to explain your reasons for ignoring Linux, most on
this list are living in reality and not in Linux pony land ;).






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Re: Missing Makefile


On 8/23/2013 11:50 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

_Unfortunately_ in real live, when we need to earn an honest penny,
Linux is 99,% of all user cases completely unusable
excepted of servers. The people who now will mention that this isn't
true, claim that they made a living with using Linux only, are likely
people with a research assignment and/or teaching assignment or their
job is to be daughter or son, born in a rich family ;).



With respect, I must disagree with this.  Although I'm still fairly new 
to Linux (actually been playing with it for a couple of years, but only 
as a side), I find it much more usable for many things than other things 
out there.  It's much more configurable and doesn't have to carry the 
weight of a huge graphic system if you don't need that, for instance.  I 
thought it would be a much better replacement for OS/2 on this system 
than others.



However, I anyway decided to use Linux only and to drop jobs where
standard technology is needed, but nobody can expect that everybody will
do the same. If everybody would do it, our societies would run into
serious issues ;). Even my decision isn't based on anything that has to
do with Linux ;), I'm just sick of working as an engineer, following
fashions I don't like and today prefer to do social work ... but I'm
jobless now, so t doesn't work that good ;).



Yes, when IBM dropped OS/2 I had to find another means of subsistence. 
:)  At that time, there were basically a couple of choices - web 
services or the dark side, so I chose web services.  Been doing that for 
quite a while, not.  This call was a complete surprise to me - I thought 
I was the last one using OS/2 (at least until the bearings on the hard 
disk dies a few months back).  I've actually had a Linux VPS going for 
several years; I can't say I understand everything about running the 
server, but it works and is secure (heck - any trained monkey can follow 
directions!).  I thought this would give me a chance to get further into 
Linux, but it just didn't work out.



IOW you don't need to explain your reasons for ignoring Linux, most on
this list are living in reality and not in Linux pony land ;).



I don't think most are living in Linux pony land - but from reading 
this list I think most people here are using it more for hobby/home use 
and not to make a living.  Now there's nothing wrong with that - but 
there are additional restrictions placed on you when you have to show a 
profit.  Those restrictions aren't there when you're not paying someone 
by the hour and can spend as much time as you care to playing with 
things.  I know - that's how I'm learning Linux :)


Jerry




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Re: Missing Makefile

:)

You'll still find DR DOS on my Atari ST's ~ 42 MiB HDD ;). My Atari
has got an 80286 hardware emulator. I won't call this the dark side,
but a sign of the times ;). I have the impression that you are a dino,
as I'm ;). We are the losers :D! Not born to late, but born to early ;).

Your disagreement is correct, I just sharpen it a little bit, I
completely agree with you. I'm sure you are aware, how nice it is, when
Linux is an _interest_ only (I don't like the term hobby).

Please, please join a Linux community!


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Re: Missing Makefile


On 8/23/2013 12:57 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

:)

You'll still find DR DOS on my Atari ST's ~ 42 MiB HDD ;). My Atari
has got an 80286 hardware emulator. I won't call this the dark side,
but a sign of the times ;). I have the impression that you are a dino,
as I'm ;). We are the losers :D! Not born to late, but born to early ;).



Naw, I'm not a dino.  My great-great-many-generations- grandkids might 
have been, though :)


But no, I wasn't born too early.  The rest of the world was born too 
late!  It's only been about 46 years since I wrote my first program, 
using flowcharts and punched cards.



Your disagreement is correct, I just sharpen it a little bit, I
completely agree with you. I'm sure you are aware, how nice it is, when
Linux is an _interest_ only (I don't like the term hobby).



Yes, I would agree, your wording is much better.  Thanks for the correction.


Please, please join a Linux community!




I'm working on it.  Got 3 linux VB's on this system right now, running 
different combinations so I can play with things.


Jerry


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Reporting a bug in gscan2pdf

2013-08-23 Thread anthony


Hello

I would like to report what I believe is a bug in gscan2pdf but I am 
using Fedora Linux, so I cannot use reportbug.


Could you please advise on how to proceed?

Thanks

Tony Moran


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Re: openvpn question

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Proulx

Gregory Nowak wrote:
 In addition to this, I have iptables rules using the nat table,
 which take traffic which has the laptop's public address as
 destination, and do DNAT on it, changing the destination address to
 be the laptop's private address. I also have a rule doing the
 reverse. This rule takes packets with the laptop's private address
 as source, and does SNAT on them, changing the source address to be
 the laptop's public address, and sends them out eth0.

Okay.  This is much more clear.  And this does now make sense.  There
are many different ways to do things.  The end result of this is very
similar to the way the proxy arp strategy works although in a
different way.

 Again, I do have this functioning. So, whereas before I was writing
 this based on theory, I can assure you it does actually work in
 practice.

As I said if it made sense to you then keep going with it! :-)

Proxy ARP
http://shorewall.net/ProxyARP.htm
 
 Ok, proxy arp as I understand it requires that network devices have a
 MAC address.

I hesitate to comment further since you have something working.  But
will anyway.

Yes, all network devices will have a MAC ethernet address.

 Since I didn't assign a MAC address to the tun0 device in
 the openvpn config, it wouldn't work.

The device will still have an ethernet address whether you assigned
one to it or not.  It is not necessary for you to assign one since one
has already been assigned by default.  (From the vendor.  Or in the
case of virtual hardware from the software that created the
simulation.)  And therefore proxy arp is still a viable strategy.
(And I like proxy arp better than bridging strategies that I sometimes
see people use to extend networks.  And I like your DNAT/SNAT
configuration that you described above better too.  Your strategy is
good.  Keep going with it.)

 The other part of this is that proxying arp just tells the rest of
 the network on what given interface a particular machine can be
 reached. I think Zenaan and I have established sufficiently in this
 thread that I can't simply give the laptop side a public address
 through openvpn directly, and expect it to just work. So that still
 leaves the laptop with using a private address to go through the
 openvpn gateway. So, I still need NAT, and that's how I have things
 working now.

Now it is my turn to say that this is a confusing topic but yes it
really does work.  Since it is fully documented in the proxy arp
reference above I won't describe it here and make mistakes doing so.
But you will just have to trust that yes proxy arp does work just fine
in that situation.

Meanwhile, if you understand the method that you used as you described
then that is fine too.  It is better because you understand it.  Don't
let me distract you.  I only mentioned proxy arp because it is one of
the standard strategies.  But by no means is it the only one.

  I read back but didn't see anywhere that you said what services you
  wanted.  All I suppose.
 
 I did indicate that I didn't want the VPS to do any
 firewalling. Zenaan's response to this was that for it to work, the
 VPS will need to do firewalling. This is correct of course. Perhaps
 if I would have stated I don't want the VPS to do any port blocking
 for the laptop's public address, it would have been more clear.

And I read here that you still don't say what services you are trying
to enable!  Saying didn't want the VPS to do any firewalling doesn't
mean anything.  That is okay though.  I take that to mean gotta have
my freedom, its all about freedom baby, room to breath.  :-)

But the reason I asked was because often I need a very specific set of
services such as web or mail or ssh and setting up a dedicated
connection just for those specific services is often easier and very
robust.  Such as using a web proxy.  Such as using a tunneled port.
Other possibilities.

In any case, glad to see that you have things well in hand and have
something working for you that you are happy with.  Good deal.

Bob


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Re: Reporting a bug in gscan2pdf

2013-08-23 Thread Bob Proulx

anthony wrote:
 I would like to report what I believe is a bug in gscan2pdf but I am
 using Fedora Linux, so I cannot use reportbug.
 
 Could you please advise on how to proceed?

I would email one of the Fedora user group mailing lists.  They will
be the ones who will help you report bugs in Fedora.  This is a Debian
mailing list.  Help for Fedora specific things like help for bug
reporting in Fedora is off topic.

Let me point you in the right direction:

  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicating_and_getting_help?rd=Communicate

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Re: Missing Makefile

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 13:14 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
 It's only been about 46 years since I wrote my first program, 
 using flowcharts and punched cards.

Hahaha, you old bastard. I guess I'm a younker compared to you :p. My
fist software was programmed using 65xx Assembler, so you likely was
already a dino, when I slip out of the egg :p. I was born in 1966, you
likely was born when human kind wasn't aware how to build
transistors :D. Btw. I was an audio engineer working for a known
company, building one of the most use vacuum microphones. It's still
used today, as on of the best microphones :). But who I'm, to disagree
with somebody from a generation, that teach me how to be a good
engineer :).

The problem for you?!

Now you're bound to ethics! You have no choice! You have to become a
member of the Linux community!

Manipulative technique? No old man! You have no choice! You must join
Linuxland!

Period!

:),
Ralf




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Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-23 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote:
 My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't have
 it.

I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer.  I also used an 
unofficial installer that had non-free drivers in.  It was readily available, 
and I learnt about it on this list.  So if Debian is trying to prevent us 
from having non-FLOSS software, it is making a very bad job of it.

As you say, there are other distros.  You are free to use them.  Debian 
doesn't restrict you in that either.

What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if you 
disapprove of Debian's politics.  It is, after all, the *debian-user* list.

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Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 18:46 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
 What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if
 you disapprove of Debian's politics.

Perhaps you killfiled me?! If not, here's my explanation. I'm an Arch
Linux user, but still take care about Debian users and the Ubuntu Studio
mailing lists, since Debian and Ubuntu Studio IMO are very good distro,
regarding to the needs of a user + I will do myself a favour and keep on
track with those distros + I like to help others to use Linux, by using
relatively sane distros, compared too some insane distros.



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Re: wireless problem

2013-08-23 Thread Charles Kroeger

On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 07:40:02 +0200
Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com wrote:

 I usually purge network-manager and install
 wicd.  I think in your previous case wicd didn't start and couldn't
 run because network-manager was still running and had the interfaces
 busy.

Yes thanks for this explanation. I found that by editing this:

/etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf

[ifupdown]

managed=true

I changed to:

managed=false

That takes NM out of the picture whilst still on the computer.

I've not had such a success with wicd as you and others. I don't quite know why
this is. NM and wicd together don't mix well together, and I didn't want all 
those
Gnome dependencies that come with NetworkManager-gnome

Finally solved my problems with the:

 Penguin Wireless N USB Adapter for GNU / Linux (TPE-N150USB)

by getting my /etc/network/interfaces in order thanks to Brian's post of this 
same
thread. Way to go Brian.

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Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-23 Thread Slavko

Hi,

Dňa Fri, 23 Aug 2013 18:46:17 +0100 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com
napísal:

 On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote:
  My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't
  have it.
 
 I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer.  I also used an 
 unofficial installer that had non-free drivers in.  It was readily
 available, and I learnt about it on this list.  So if Debian is
 trying to prevent us from having non-FLOSS software, it is making a
 very bad job of it.

Sure, the software is not religion. I am using software, which fulfill
my needs, no matter on the license.

The non free software, has some license restrictions.
The first one, which is going to my mind, is redistribution. Another
point, that the most of non free software is often some type of the
addware. Perhaps not really adds the advertising into itself, but
it is often provided with the some type of advertising in the mind.

And i fully agree, that it is not OK to participate on this advertising.

At last, nobody prevent to have the non free software. You are free
to use what you want. Debian only do not provides the easy way to
install it (APT) and you must to search another way to install it.

 As you say, there are other distros.  You are free to use them.
 Debian doesn't restrict you in that either.

The Debian is here 20 years. Here aren't a lot of another distros with
that long history and this is (IMO) meaningful and it is telling
something.

I always read, that the Debian is for experienced users and i get some
silver hairs by this, when i start to use the Debian. And this is
this point - the experienced user can (and know) to install another
software.

 What baffles me, is why you are reading and posting on this list if
 you disapprove of Debian's politics.  It is, after all, the
 *debian-user* list.

Always here will be people, which will try to change the behavior of
the others, not the own one. And, do not forget, that here is a lot of
people, which do not search the freedom, but the free Windows...

And finally, for many people it is a problem to tell I do not know
something, simplest way is to tell: You are doing bad work (because
it doesn't work as i expect) ;-)

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Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-23 Thread Dom


On 23/08/13 18:46, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Friday 23 August 2013 02:04:01 Doug wrote:

My complaint is with Debian's politics: if it's not FOSS, you can't have
it.


I have non-FLOSS applications on my Debian computer.  I also used an
unofficial installer that had non-free drivers in.  It was readily available,
and I learnt about it on this list.  So if Debian is trying to prevent us
from having non-FLOSS software, it is making a very bad job of it.


I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian 
repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it may 
potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it 
cracks copyright protection on media.


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Re: OT: sudo questions

2013-08-23 Thread Luther Blissett

Since everyone is giving away their bits os appreciation, I felt like
giving mine.

My first ever GNU/Linux distro was some old Red Hat, which I couldn't
handle well and was dropped in favor of Suse. Once again I had trouble
with network hardware and was forced to dive in the command line with
almost no understanding and no one to help. tar -xvzf, what the hell?!

So I did a long search around, since I had absolutely no idea where I
was getting into. Back then I used to think that what was getting in the
way of free software were usability and shinny. Tried gNewSense and
again, had to go offroads and take chances messing around to just make
my wireless card work. While researching three distros were always
popping up as being the base, where true hackers lived: arch, debian and
slackware.

Since my main reason to moving was an ethical one but I was already
experiencing a lot of difficulty, debian's promises sounded the most
appealing. Non-free software only for vital tasks, usually firmware, not
by default and hopefully no more. A path, not a total jump in the abyss.
Moreover, community sounded more central issue. No ties. No boss. No
leader, no guarantees. Debian is inseparable of its community. It grows
with community, it is the result of communitarian work on its own needs.
If some software becomes unmantained, it's because less people rely or
care for it, not because someone atop had the hipster idea of the month.

In someways I think that debian incarnates better the world to come of
free software. It is now the dream of a future society were we got over
money and started working for meaningful reasons. We already have the
technology and the intel on how to build and deliver goods throughout
the world, money just distorts how it's done. What applies to software
applies to physical goods. 

Funny I never *really* tried other distros, debian became addiction.
Something I can never get the time because I'm also felling shorthanded
before my debian peers and willing to give something back from all the
help I found in this community. Oh, and the shell... what a shinny
little thing, full of secrets.

http://www.loldongs.dk/ShowImage.asp?lol=8412

On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 18:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: 
 On Tue, 2013-08-20 at 18:06 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
  [ ubuntu | archlinux | gentoo ]
 
 $ cat /etc/issue
 Arch Linux \r (\l)
 
 This is my main distro, IOW the distro I like the best, while
 switching to systemd wasn't the best idea, it split the community,
 people were banned from the mailing list and now it's a hardcore
 moderated mailing list.
 
 I suspect the best mailing lists for newbies are Ubuntu mailing lists,
 followed by this Debian list, other lists are a little bit strange. IOW
 newbies should use Ubuntu or Debian.
 
 Funny thread:
 http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2013-August/094164.html
 
 And I run into similar situation, so I closed a thread at
 https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2013-August/msg00117.html
 
 I would call the Ubuntu and Debian communities liberal :), FWIW the Arch
 community is liberal too, just the original mailing list is hard to use.
 
 However, an issue, especially for newbies are many Linux mailing lists.
 It seems to be, that Jesus Christ had not to suffer that hard, as
 several Linux (userspace) coders and some disciples do from those many
 evil users who don't contribute by following their directives and
 opinions :D.
 
 Resume:
 
 There are many good linux distributions we could install, but there are
 only a few communities with normal [1] people.
 
 [1] normal in this context is for people who have a live
 beside Linux, with friends who don't know what Linux is. I bet
 the friends of some of those abnormal coders and disciples be
 sick of hearing them talking about Linux.
 
 A major distro with a huge community of normal people (Arch btw. is a
 major distro too), IMO is the best way to go.
 
 2 Cents,
 Ralf
 
 




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Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-23 Thread John Hasler

Dom writes:
 I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian
 repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it
 may potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it
 cracks copyright protection on media.

It is *probably* legal in the USA for Debian to distribute it.  However,
no one wants to find out the hard way that I am wrong about that, and in
any case it's easy to get it elsewhere.
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Re: openvpn question

2013-08-23 Thread Gregory Nowak

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:36:58PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
 I have been following this and I think it is getting clear what you are doing 
 but I have lost what the problem is we are trying to resolve.
 
 If I understand it right your setup is something like:
 
 VPS has network 1.2.3.0/24 (mask 255.255.255.0)

i Bonno. This is true for the private network used by openvpn. From
what you say below, it seems you are assuming this is the case for the
public network. Unfortunately, my public subnet is only a /29. Getting
a /24 (assuming I can in the first place) would be quite expensive! On
the one hand, having a public /24 means I would be wasting a lot of
IP addresses. This is particularly important given that we're close to
running out of them! On the other hand, having a public /24 means I
could subdivide that, and use a part of those addresses for
openvpn. In that case, the laptop could get a public address, and it
would just be a trivial routing issue at that point, problem solved.

 
 Somehow you have made sure client always gets same 10.1.1.x number, for 
 instance 10.1.1.3

Yes. I have a directory with per client configuration files for
openvpn. I can use that to push a specific IP address to the laptop
using the common name from its certificate.

 
 Via iptables you make sure any traffic coming in on the VPS server with 
 destination 1.2.3.3 is going to the VPN ip of the laptop
 And vice versa any traffic coming from the laptop vpn ip get sent out with 
 the source 1.2.3.3
 openvpn server iptables
 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 1.2.3.3 -j DNAT --to 10.1.1.3
 iptables -t nat -A POSTOUTING -s 10.1.1.3 -j SNAT --to 1.2.3.3
 

Exactly.

 What is it that is not working? If you think we can solve the problem better 
 by supplying the real configs then please do so.
 

As I already said, everything is working. The problem is solved. If
there is interest, I can paste the openvpn configs from server/client,
and the interfaces file with relevant iptables rules from the server
to show how I'm doing what I'm doing. Thanks again to everyone for
your help.

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Re: deb-multimedia repository

On Fri, 2013-08-23 at 16:36 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Dom writes:
  I thought the reason that libdvdcss(2) wasn't included in the Debian
  repos isn't because of any issues with the licensing, but because it
  may potentially be illegal to use in some areas due to the fact the it
  cracks copyright protection on media.
 
 It is *probably* legal in the USA for Debian to distribute it.  However,
 no one wants to find out the hard way that I am wrong about that, and in
 any case it's easy to get it elsewhere.

I'm a dino from Germany, you should read what the Chaos Computer Club,
the founders are from my generation, mentioned about this topic.

No one of my generation who has to do with computers, takes care about
CSS (the DVD thingy). The German Wiki describes it as amateurish, IMO
even this is abounded.


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Re: OT: sudo questions

2013-08-23 Thread Doug

On 08/23/2013 04:24 PM, Luther Blissett wrote:
/snip/
 So I did a long search around, since I had absolutely no idea where I
 was getting into. Back then I used to think that what was getting in the
 way of free software were usability and shinny. 
/snip/
 Funny I never *really* tried other distros, debian became addiction.
 Something I can never get the time because I'm also felling shorthanded
 before my debian peers and willing to give something back from all the
 help I found in this community. Oh, and the shell... what a shinny
 little thing, full of secrets.

I'm confused. I only know shinny as a verb: to shinny up a pole, or a
tree, etc. To climb, as a kid would. Here he uses it as a noun and an
adjective, and I have no idea what he meant.

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Re: openvpn question

2013-08-23 Thread Gregory Nowak

On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:16:12AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 The device will still have an ethernet address whether you assigned
 one to it or not.  It is not necessary for you to assign one since one
 has already been assigned by default.  (From the vendor.  Or in the
 case of virtual hardware from the software that created the
 simulation.)

Uhhm, no. 

# ifconfig tun0
tun0  Link encap:UNSPEC  HWaddr
00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00-00
  inet addr:10.28.49.1  P-t-P:10.28.49.1  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:68 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:449 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:100
  RX bytes:6880 (6.7 KiB)  TX bytes:97290 (95.0 KiB)

The above is from the VPS, with the openvpn connection from the laptop
running. This is a tun device, which doesn't require a MAC address at
all to function as I understand it.

 Now it is my turn to say that this is a confusing topic but yes it
 really does work.  Since it is fully documented in the proxy arp
 reference above I won't describe it here and make mistakes doing so.
 But you will just have to trust that yes proxy arp does work just fine
 in that situation.

I thought this over again with my brain fresher in the afternoon than
it was last night, and you are right, it would work in this situation
as long as the tun device had a MAC address of course.

 
 Meanwhile, if you understand the method that you used as you described
 then that is fine too.  It is better because you understand it.  Don't
 let me distract you.  I only mentioned proxy arp because it is one of
 the standard strategies.  But by no means is it the only one.

Thanks for doing so, it's appreciated.

 And I read here that you still don't say what services you are trying
 to enable!  Saying didn't want the VPS to do any firewalling doesn't
 mean anything.  That is okay though.  I take that to mean gotta have
 my freedom, its all about freedom baby, room to breath.  :-)

I want all available services/ports/whatever. I'll deal with
restricting access on the laptop side, rather than on the VPS side.

 
 But the reason I asked was because often I need a very specific set of
 services such as web or mail or ssh and setting up a dedicated
 connection just for those specific services is often easier and very
 robust.  Such as using a web proxy.  Such as using a tunneled port.
 Other possibilities.

Yes, I have thought of that, and am aware of doing things this
way. Thanks for pointing it out.

Greg


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WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /home/username/.cache/keyring-XXXXXX/pkcs11: No such file or directory

2013-08-23 Thread David Christensen


debian-user:

I have a Debian 7.1 amd64 box running XFCE.


When I invoke mplayer to convert a WMA file to a WAV file:

$ mplayer -vo null -vc dummy -af resample=44100 -ao pcm 
-really-quiet -nolirc foo.wma


I see:

WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: 
/home/dpchrist/.cache/keyring-HEidxT/pkcs11: No such file or directory



If I ssh in from a Debian 6.0.7 i386 Gnome box, there is no warning.


Any suggestions?


TIA,

David



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Re: OT: sudo questions