Re: Valoració d'aplicacions a debian mitjançant estrelles i comentaris..

2014-01-20 Thread Joan Singla
Moltes gràcies Jordi! Des que vaig actualitzar de squeeze a wheezy havia
oblidat el paquet del centre de software.

Estic parcialment d'acord amb els cómics de https://xkcd.com. La veritat és
que m'ha fet somriure. Però penso que com totes les eines, les valoracions
tenen la seva utilitat, com les captures de pantalla.. òbviament fins que
no instalis la app no sabràs si val la pena, però veure una captura de
pantalla o una puntuació pot ajudar en alguns casos a veure si t'interessa
o no una app.

Per cert he instal·lat el software-centre però no veig que permeti posar
comentaris ni puntuar les apps..
Potser em falta instal·lar algun paquet? O es que no està implementada
aquesta utilitat en debian?

Salut i gràcies

Joan Singla
Hola Joan,

El ds 18 de 01 de 2014 a les 18:06 +0100, en/na Joan Singla va escriure:

 Jo veig molt útil llegir els comentaris i puntuació d'altres usuaris
 abans d'instal·lar una aplicació.

XKCD sempre té una resposta per a tot. En aquest cas, en té TRES.

https://xkcd.com/937/

https://xkcd.com/1036/

https://xkcd.com/1098/

Molta atenció a la primera i última. Veritats absolutes! :)

El Software Center d'Ubuntu té la funcionalitat que descrius, i està
disponible en Debian. Dubte que hi haja molta gent votant i fent start
reviews, però.

http://packages.debian.org/unstable/software-center

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Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread honeyshell
Bonjour la liste,

Dans un soucis de préserver les disques durs de mon serveur maison qui
héberge mon site web, mon cloud, et les services multimédias j'ai :
- déplacé transmission sur un petit raspberry pi munit d'un dd externe
- mis notatime dans le fstab

Cela semble réussir car la commande hddtemp me renvoie une température de
- 26°C sur le disque hébergeant Debian et les services web.
- 23°C sur les 2 disques de 3Teras stockant les données. Il indique aussi
drive is sleeping sur ces 2 disques, ce qui est le but recherché, car si
personne est à la maison, ou si nous dormons, il n'y a pas de raison qu'ils
fonctionnent.

Auriez-vous d'autres conseils?

La suite logique sera de réduire le bruit des ventilos : passer sur des
noctuas, et peut être réduire la tension des ventilos (via bios?)

Bonne fin de journée.


Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Bzzz
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 16:43:13 +0100
honeyshell honeysh...@honeyshell.com wrote:

 Il
 indique aussi drive is sleeping sur ces 2 disques, ce qui est le
 but recherché, car si personne est à la maison, ou si nous
 dormons, il n'y a pas de raison qu'ils fonctionnent.

Tmauvaise idée: un HD a un nombre de cycle on/off Tlimité
(~3.5k-5.5k); de plus, les différences de température tuent
les paliers bcp plus rapidement.

Best choice: laisser tourner les HDz 24/7.

 La suite logique sera de réduire le bruit des ventilos : passer
 sur des noctuas, et peut être réduire la tension des ventilos (via
 bios?)

Utiliser des ventilos bcp plus gros (une firme coréenne vend de
tels boîtiers, avec un ventilo Pal ø~30cm)

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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 04:43:13PM +0100, honeyshell wrote:
 Cela semble réussir car la commande hddtemp me renvoie une température de
 - 26°C sur le disque hébergeant Debian et les services web.
 - 23°C sur les 2 disques de 3Teras stockant les données. Il indique aussi
 drive is sleeping sur ces 2 disques, ce qui est le but recherché, car si
 personne est à la maison, ou si nous dormons, il n'y a pas de raison qu'ils
 fonctionnent.
 
 Auriez-vous d'autres conseils?

Les laisser tourner en permanence? C'est à vérifier, mais il
me semble bien que ce qui use le plus les disques durs,
c'est de démarrer et de s'arrêter.

Y.

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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux

Le 20/01/2014 17:01, Yves Rutschle a écrit :

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 04:43:13PM +0100, honeyshell wrote:

Cela semble réussir car la commande hddtemp me renvoie une température de
- 26°C sur le disque hébergeant Debian et les services web.
- 23°C sur les 2 disques de 3Teras stockant les données. Il indique aussi
drive is sleeping sur ces 2 disques, ce qui est le but recherché, car si
personne est à la maison, ou si nous dormons, il n'y a pas de raison qu'ils
fonctionnent.

Auriez-vous d'autres conseils?

Les laisser tourner en permanence? C'est à vérifier, mais il
me semble bien que ce qui use le plus les disques durs,
c'est de démarrer et de s'arrêter.


Tout comme l'alimentation d'un PC...

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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Daniel Huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net writes:
 me semble bien que ce qui use le plus les disques durs,
 c'est de démarrer et de s'arrêter.

 Tout comme l'alimentation d'un PC...

Ça veut donc dire qu'il n'est pas recommandé, pour un portable,
d'activer les options d'arrêt des disques dans laptop-mode ?
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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Bzzz
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:36:16 +0100
Daniel Huhardeaux no-s...@tootai.net wrote:

 Tout comme l'alimentation d'un PC...

Tout comme… tout.

En Gal, le matériel pète au bout des 3 1ers mois, sinon il dure.

Que ce soit des éléments mécaniques (+++) ou électroniques (++),
les variations de température sont souvent mortelles (ne serait-
ce que parce que les casings supportent Tmal ça).

C'est d'ailleurs pour ça que les éléments des satellites sont
d'abord testés (Tlongtemps: à ce jour, il y  encore des sats
qui sont lancés avec des 486 à board) à température constante,
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Re: [Résolu] Les CD et DVD ne se montent plus automatiquement

2014-01-20 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le jeudi 16 janvier 2014, 19:09:56 Th.A.C a écrit :
 Le 16/01/2014 12:20, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
   Bonjour,
   Je suis en Sid AMD64 et Kde système à jour. Depuis quelque temps, 
lorsque
   j'introduis un CD ou un DVD dans le lecteur il n'est pas monté
   automatiquement. Le lecteur fonctionne normalement testé sous MS
 
 Vista. J'ai
 
   fait de nombreux tests pour cerner le problème, les phénomènes
 
 constatés sont
 
   les mêmes que ce soit un CD ou un DVD : j'introduis un DVD dans le
 
 lecteur,
 
   j'entends le DVD tourner mais rien ne se passe, j'ouvre dolphin et je
 
 clique
 
   sur propriété /dev/cdrom montage de mon DVD
   ...
 
Grâce à la liste, j'ai pu cerner le paquet qui semblait impliqué dans ce 
comportement anormal.
Sur mon système Sid AMD64 KDE un dpkg -l |grep udisks
indiquait que le paquet udisks avait été supprimé et que udisks2 avait pris 
la succession. En lisant divers articles à ce sujet, il était indiqué que 
udisks et udisks2 pouvaient cohabiter. Je réinstallais udisks sans succès 
seul le lancement udisks --enumerate faisait que les cd et dvd étaient 
reconnus automatiquement ce qui n'était pas une grande avancée car 
précédemment en cherchant les propriétés /dev/cdrom j'arrivais au même 
résultat.
En cherchant dans les Bugs de udisks2, je trouvais le Bug 725978 qui 
parlait de ce pb.
Tout d'abord il confirmait que :
1 udisks2 a succédé à udisks.
2 Une chose plus surprenante le mainteneur d'udisks2 indiquait qu'il 
n'était pas chargé de détecter l'introduction d'un CD ou un DVD cela 
devait se faire au niveau du noyau.
Dans le message 50 de ce thread apparaît une solution, qui dans mon cas 
fonctionne très bien :
Modifier le fichier /etc/rc.local et mettre :
echo 2000  /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs
Je ne suis pas sur à 100% que c'était la solution car en même temps que 
je faisais cette modif je migrais le noyau en 3.12.1.
Tester là modif et faites part à la liste du résultat.
Philippe Merlin



Re: [Résolu] Les CD et DVD ne se montent plus automatiquement

2014-01-20 Thread Frédéric Massot

Le 20/01/2014 19:01, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :

Le jeudi 16 janvier 2014, 19:09:56 Th.A.C a écrit :

[...]


Grâce à la liste, j'ai pu cerner le paquet qui semblait impliqué dans ce
comportement anormal.

Sur mon système Sid AMD64 KDE un dpkg -l |grep udisks

indiquait que le paquet udisks avait été supprimé et que udisks2 avait
pris la succession. En lisant divers articles à ce sujet, il était
indiqué que udisks et udisks2 pouvaient cohabiter. Je réinstallais
udisks sans succès seul le lancement udisks --enumerate faisait que les
cd et dvd étaient reconnus automatiquement ce qui n'était pas une grande
avancée car précédemment en cherchant les propriétés /dev/cdrom
j'arrivais au même résultat.

En cherchant dans les Bugs de udisks2, je trouvais le Bug 725978 qui
parlait de ce pb.

Tout d'abord il confirmait que :

1 udisks2 a succédé à udisks.

2 Une chose plus surprenante le mainteneur d'udisks2 indiquait qu'il
n'était pas chargé de détecter l'introduction d'un CD ou un DVD cela
devait se faire au niveau du noyau.


Oui, depuis la version 2.6.38 le noyau est capable de détecter 
l'introduction d'un CD : http://lwn.net/Articles/423619


Dans cette version c'était désactivé par défaut le temps que les 
applications soient modifiées pour l'utiliser.



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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 05:44:10PM +0100, Raphaël POITEVIN wrote:
 Ça veut donc dire qu'il n'est pas recommandé, pour un portable,
 d'activer les options d'arrêt des disques dans laptop-mode ?

Pour la durée de vie du portable, c'est sans doute pas
recommandé. Mais les portables ont une autre variable à
beaucoup plus court terme: la durée de vie de la batterie,
et pour celle-là, ça vaut le coup de tout couper.

Donc, à voir si tu veux utiliser ton portable 6h/j sur
batterie pendant 3 ans ou 24/24 sur secteur pendant 10 ans.

Y.

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Re: Réduire l'activité des disques durs sur son serveur

2014-01-20 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Yves Rutschle debian.anti-s...@rutschle.net writes:
 Pour la durée de vie du portable, c'est sans doute pas
 recommandé. Mais les portables ont une autre variable à
 beaucoup plus court terme: la durée de vie de la batterie,
 et pour celle-là, ça vaut le coup de tout couper.

 Donc, à voir si tu veux utiliser ton portable 6h/j sur
 batterie pendant 3 ans ou 24/24 sur secteur pendant 10 ans.

Oui ! Je voulais dire, il ne vaut donc mieux pas activer les options de
laptop-mode en utilisation secteur.
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Re: [Résolu] Les CD et DVD ne se montent plus automatiquement

2014-01-20 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Mon, 20 Jan 2014 19:01:51 +0100
MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit:

 Grâce à la liste, j'ai pu cerner le paquet qui semblait impliqué dans ce 
 comportement anormal.
 Sur mon système Sid AMD64 KDE un dpkg -l |grep udisks
 indiquait que le paquet udisks avait été supprimé et que udisks2 avait pris 
 la succession. En lisant divers articles à ce sujet, il était indiqué que 
 udisks et udisks2 pouvaient cohabiter. Je réinstallais udisks sans succès 
 seul le lancement udisks --enumerate faisait que les cd et dvd étaient 
 reconnus automatiquement ce qui n'était pas une grande avancée car 
 précédemment en cherchant les propriétés /dev/cdrom j'arrivais au même 
 résultat.
 En cherchant dans les Bugs de udisks2, je trouvais le Bug 725978 qui 
 parlait de ce pb.
 Tout d'abord il confirmait que :
 1 udisks2 a succédé à udisks.
 2 Une chose plus surprenante le mainteneur d'udisks2 indiquait qu'il 
 n'était pas chargé de détecter l'introduction d'un CD ou un DVD cela 
 devait se faire au niveau du noyau.
 Dans le message 50 de ce thread apparaît une solution, qui dans mon cas 
 fonctionne très bien :
 Modifier le fichier /etc/rc.local et mettre :
 echo 2000  /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs
 Je ne suis pas sur à 100% que c'était la solution car en même temps que 
 je faisais cette modif je migrais le noyau en 3.12.1.
 Tester là modif et faites part à la liste du résultat.

Je confirme que c'est bien la modif de events_dfl_poll_msecs qui fait
fonctionner car j'étais déjà en 3.12-1 sans cette modif et mes périphs USB
(hors clé USB)/DVD n'étaient pas détectés. J'ai fais un simple echo 2000
 /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs et hop ça fonctionne.

Il me semble donc qu'il y ait un gros problème dans la gestion de
la transition entre udisks et udisks2. L'activation de la détection par le
noyau devrait être faite dans les scripts de démarrage depuis que udisks ne le
fait plus, non ?

Le truc qui me semble étrange c'est qu'avant avec udisks cette activation se
faisait au niveau utilisateur alors que maintenant il faut être root ...


Gaëtan 

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:47:45 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

Ese html...

 buenas comunidad alguien a instalado el reproductor de musica de
 elementary os en debian me a gustado mucho las capturas y lo quiero para
 mi debian sin instalar repositorios

Elementary OS es un sistema operativo (al menos que yo sepa) así que me 
temo que vas a tener que reformular la pregunta :-)

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Orlando Nuñez
Saludos.

El reproductor de musica que quieres instalar se llama Noise es un fork de 
Beatbox, hace poco fue liberado Noise el repositorio funciona para Ubuntu, 
no se como funcione para Debian asi que te recomiendo buscar en google sobre 
Noise o probar beatbox

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:47:45 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

Ese html...

 buenas comunidad alguien a instalado el reproductor de musica de
 elementary os en debian me a gustado mucho las capturas y lo quiero
para
 mi debian sin instalar repositorios

Elementary OS es un sistema operativo (al menos que yo sepa) así que
me 
temo que vas a tener que reformular la pregunta :-)

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Edward Villarroel (EDD)
okey lo busque y no sale en los repositorios de debian!! y no consigo
un link para descagar noise o beatbox, ya que no me gusta meterle los
repositorios que salen en internet a mi debian por cuestion de
estabilidad
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El día 20 de enero de 2014, 10:08, Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com escribió:
 Saludos.

 El reproductor de musica que quieres instalar se llama Noise es un fork de
 Beatbox, hace poco fue liberado Noise el repositorio funciona para
 Ubuntu, no se como funcione para Debian asi que te recomiendo buscar en
 google sobre Noise o probar beatbox

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Sun, 19 Jan 2014 13:47:45 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 Ese html...

 buenas comunidad alguien a instalado el reproductor de musica de
 elementary os en debian me a gustado mucho las capturas y lo quiero para
 mi debian sin instalar repositorios


 Elementary OS es un sistema operativo (al menos que yo sepa) así que me
 temo que vas a tener que reformular la pregunta :-)

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:18:12 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 okey lo busque y no sale en los repositorios de debian!! y no consigo
 un link para descagar noise o beatbox, ya que no me gusta meterle los
 repositorios que salen en internet a mi debian por cuestion de
 estabilidad

Hum... Edward ¿qué es lo que quieres instalar?

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Orlando Nuñez
Quiere instalar el reproductor Noise (reproductor de musica que viene por 
defecto instalado en Elementary OS y que es un fork de beatbox) en Debian

Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
El Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:18:12 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 okey lo busque y no sale en los repositorios de debian!! y no consigo
 un link para descagar noise o beatbox, ya que no me gusta meterle los
 repositorios que salen en internet a mi debian por cuestion de
 estabilidad

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Re: Dispositivos USB

2014-01-20 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 19 Jan 2014 14:34:29 -0600, Ignacio Sotelo escribió:

Te corrijo el top-posting.

 El 19 de enero de 2014, 8:54, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Sat, 18 Jan 2014 18:49:16 +, ignacio.sotelo escribió:

  Ayer me di cuenta de algo a conectar un kindle a mi debian, con mi
  usuario no pude poner archivos en la kindle, de hecho en calibre no
  identifica el kindle, por terminal me valide como root y ejecute
  calibre desde consola y solo asi vi el kindle y pude pasar los
  libros.

 Es decir, que tienes un problema de permisos con el dispositivo USB
 ¿no? ¿Y te pasa con todos los aparatos que conectas o sólo con el
 Kindle?

 Seguramente el dispositivo sea detectado por el kernel pero el Kindle
 no sea capaz de acceder a él. Antes de nada, tras conectar el aparato
 ejecuta lsusb, dmesg | tail -n20 y mount y manda la salida a la
 lista. También podrías ejecutar Calibre desde línea de comandos desde
 tu usuario por si te dijera algo.

(...)

 De hecho es con cualquier dispositivo USB

Eso es un detalle importante.
 
 Tengo debian 7.3
 
 Aca los comandos que me pides:
 
 Ahora estoy probando con una memoria USB Kingston y pasa lo mismo no me
 deja escribir en ella

 # lsusb

(...)

 Bus 003 Device 006: ID 13fe:1f23 Kingston Technology Company Inc. 2Gb 

(...)

Bien, la llave es reconocida por el kernel.

 dmesg | tail -n20

(...)

 [ 1055.211156] sdb: sdb1 
 [ 1055.211986] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page found 
 [ 1055.211989] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through 
 [ 1055.211991] sd 10:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk 
 [ 1055.619677] FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT 
 filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

Bueno, lo que dice este registro es que se ha detectado el dispositivo
correctamente y la partición es accesible desde /dev/sdb1 por lo que
al menos podrás montarlo manualmente (mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt).

 [ 1055.621157] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data 
 may be corrupt. Please run fsck.

Esto también es importante, conviene que le hagas un chequeo a la partición
porque el sistema de archivos ha detectado algún problema.

 mount 

(...)

 /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat 
 (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)

Bueno, pues ahí lo tienes. Eso es lo que impide a la llave (o el dispositivo 
que se que conectes al puerto USB) montarse con los permisos adecuados en modo 
de escritura.

Y ya veo que en el otro mensaje que has marcado como solucionado lo has 
detectado. Los dispositivos USB no conviene tenerlos definidos como puntos 
de montaje estáticos en el /etc/fstab o al menos, si los tienes ahí puestos
usa mejor un identificador único (uuid, id, label...) para evitar estos 
problemas.

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Re: arquitecturas

2014-01-20 Thread Felix Perez
El día 19 de enero de 2014, 12:07, Edward Villarroel (EDD)
edward.villarr...@gmail.com escribió:
 Solucionado

 Cuando compile por ultimaves el kernel debi quitarle la opcion de 64bist

 compile uno nuevo y aparecieron


Por enésima vez  deja de hacer top posting, confundes el hilo de la
comunicación y no se entiende a quién y qué estas respondiendo.



 2014/1/19 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com

 El Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:19:39 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

  buenas noches

 Ese html...

un consejo que arquitectura debo usar con una laptopcon intel core
  2duo y 8gb de ram

 ¿8 GiB de RAM? Me arriesgaré y diré amd64.

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[OT] metadatos y la privacidad

2014-01-20 Thread Felix Perez
Interesante artículo:
http://www.eldiario.es/turing/vigilancia_y_privacidad/metadatos-pueden-importantes-contenido-email_0_190731401.html

Y la herramienta y el MIT:
https://immersion.media.mit.edu/

Lo probé y con lo poco que analiza, esta toda la línea de comunicación
con los listeros.

¿Algún experto que de algunos consejos?

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Re: arquitecturas

2014-01-20 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR
Creo que eso tiene que ver con el micro. Si el micro es a 64 bits debes 
instalar programas 64 bits aunque admite 32 bits. Lógicamente en una 
PC 64 bits los programas de 64 aprovecharán más las características 
de tu PC. Según tengo entendido la arquitectura a la que te refieres ya 
viene con la máquina según el micro sea 64 o 32 bits.
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Re: convertidor de audio a texto

2014-01-20 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR
Buscas de seguro alg´un reconocedor de voz?
Si hay alguno que de seguro que lo hay. Yo no lo he trasteado.
Con las posibilidades de UNIX/Linux todo es posible usando tuber´ias
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Re: archivo de log

2014-01-20 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR
en el .bash history de tu home
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Offtopic - switches clase media L3

2014-01-20 Thread troxlinux
Señores gusto en saludarles a todos , conocen algun switch L3 que me
pueda soportar crear vlan y dominio de las misma , que no sea un cisco
o Hp .

adamos buscando algo economico y que nos ayude a mejorar nuestro
trafico en una red.



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Re: Offtopic - switches clase media L3

2014-01-20 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014/1/21 troxlinux xserverli...@gmail.com:
 Señores gusto en saludarles a todos , conocen algun switch L3 que me
 pueda soportar crear vlan y dominio de las misma , que no sea un cisco
 o Hp .

 adamos buscando algo economico y que nos ayude a mejorar nuestro
 trafico en una red.



Económico y que mejore el throughput de red son términos antagónicos
:)) ... Pero a bote pronto te puedes mirar los D-Link o NetGear ...
Pero vamos, yo no usaría los D-Link. Para casa están muy bien, pero en
empresa ...

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Re: Offtopic - switches clase media L3

2014-01-20 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
El 21/01/14 08:29, C. L. Martinez escribió:
 Económico y que mejore el throughput de red son términos antagónicos
 :)) ... Pero a bote pronto te puedes mirar los D-Link o NetGear ...
 Pero vamos, yo no usaría los D-Link. Para casa están muy bien, pero en
 empresa ...

Para empresa, los Cisco y otras marcas, pero D-Link...ni lo recomiendo.

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Re: reproductor de musica

2014-01-20 Thread Francisco javier
2014/1/20 Orlando Nuñez onvi...@gmail.com:
 Quiere instalar el reproductor Noise (reproductor de musica que viene por
 defecto instalado en Elementary OS y que es un fork de beatbox) en Debian

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Mon, 20 Jan 2014 10:18:12 -0430, Edward Villarroel (EDD) escribió:

 okey lo busque y no sale en los repositorios de debian!! y no consigo
 un link para descagar noise o beatbox, ya que no me gusta meterle los
 repositorios que salen en internet a mi debian por cuestion de
 estabilidad


 Hum... Edward ¿qué es lo que quieres instalar?

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Icecast + Squid

2014-01-20 Thread Fagner Patricio
Olá Pessoal!!

Tenho um sistema Icecast + darkice aqui funcionando beleza para a
transmissão ao vivo de eventos, tenho dois sites, um interno e outro
externo, o problema que eu estou enfrentando é que todo o tráfico  interno
passa antes por um proxy squid 3 e durante a transmissão de um evento está
demorando 4 minutos em média de cache antes da transmissão se iniciar,
externamente funciona beleza.

Imagino que seja algo relacionada ao squid.

Alé do squid tenho o squidguard e um ClamAV via icap.

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Re: Banco do Brasil, Iceweasel, Icedtea

2014-01-20 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo
vc pode nos informar como instalar manualamente? instalei o java-package,
porem nao funcionar desinstalei pretendo instalar manualmente mas nao estou
conseguindo


Em 18 de janeiro de 2014 15:55, Luiz L. Marins
luizlmar...@globomail.comescreveu:

  Sempre instalo Java Oracle manualmente e após quatro comandos básicos,
 tudo funciona.
 Java é assim, quanto mais automático, pior fica. Nunca usei java-package.
 Faça na unha que dá certo.


 Em 18-01-2014 15:09, Thiago Oliveira escreveu:

 Pensava que o problema era soh meu, mas pelo jeito... no meu notebook de
 manha(5:30) consegui entar ontem, mas a noite (18:00) jah nao consegui
 mais...

  *Thiago Oliveira*
 Graduando de Segurança da Informação - FATEC São Caetano do Sul




 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 22:15, Fred Maranhão 
 fred.maran...@gmail.comescreveu:

 existe algum banco que o site funciona sem dar problemas só com software
 livre?

 o meu iceweasel do debian testing e do unstable pararam de funcionar
 no bb.com.br

 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 16:51, Linux - Junior Polegato
 li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu:
   Em 17-01-2014 13:33, Jack Jr escreveu:
 
  No Banrisul nunca funcionou.
  No Brasil para abrir conta em banco é preciso comprovante de renda,
  comprovante de residência, cópia de documentos pessoais e kit de
 softwares
  proprietários.
  Eu acabo fazendo tudo em caixa eletrônico. Eu não adiciono repositórios
  não oficiais e Oracle nem em Ubuntu ou Fedora tem.
 
 
  Olá!
 
  Aqui na empresa tudo funciona normalmente para com o Bando do
  Brasil, física ou jurídica, no Iceweasel + java da Oracle, atualmente
 versão
  7u51.
 
  A dificuldade é que de vez e nunca uma máquina dá problema para
  identificar o computador, aí tem que excluir .java, cookies, cache e
 tudo
  mais.
 
  Na versão 7u51, e nas outras por vir, precisa adicionar
  https://aapj.bb.com.br na lista de exceções de segurança no painel de
  controle do java.
 
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Re: Banco do Brasil, Iceweasel, Icedtea

2014-01-20 Thread Rubens Junior
Prezado Manoel,

Basta realizar o download diretamente do site da Oracle e descompactar
informando o diretorio. Por exemplo, eu utilizo /opt/java-version e crio
duas variaveis de ambiente:
1) JAVA_HOME = /opt/java-version/bin
2) JRE_HOME = /opt/java-version/jre/bin

Nunca fiz qualquer manipulacao de scripts /etc/alternatives, etc, e nem
instalei o pacote debian **.deb ou via apt) e sempre funcionou
corretamente.

Caso desejar q seu sistema rode 100% aplicativos free, o pacote utilizado
eh o openjdk e acredito q apos sua instalacao creio q nao ha necessidade de
configurar nada. O povo pode ratificar ou retificar.





Em 20 de janeiro de 2014 10:21, Manoel Pedro de Araújo
mpara...@gmail.comescreveu:

 vc pode nos informar como instalar manualamente? instalei o java-package,
 porem nao funcionar desinstalei pretendo instalar manualmente mas nao estou
 conseguindo


 Em 18 de janeiro de 2014 15:55, Luiz L. Marins 
 luizlmar...@globomail.comescreveu:

  Sempre instalo Java Oracle manualmente e após quatro comandos básicos,
 tudo funciona.
 Java é assim, quanto mais automático, pior fica. Nunca usei java-package.
 Faça na unha que dá certo.


 Em 18-01-2014 15:09, Thiago Oliveira escreveu:

 Pensava que o problema era soh meu, mas pelo jeito... no meu notebook de
 manha(5:30) consegui entar ontem, mas a noite (18:00) jah nao consegui
 mais...

  *Thiago Oliveira*
 Graduando de Segurança da Informação - FATEC São Caetano do Sul




 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 22:15, Fred Maranhão 
 fred.maran...@gmail.comescreveu:

 existe algum banco que o site funciona sem dar problemas só com software
 livre?

 o meu iceweasel do debian testing e do unstable pararam de funcionar
 no bb.com.br

 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 16:51, Linux - Junior Polegato
 li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu:
   Em 17-01-2014 13:33, Jack Jr escreveu:
 
  No Banrisul nunca funcionou.
  No Brasil para abrir conta em banco é preciso comprovante de renda,
  comprovante de residência, cópia de documentos pessoais e kit de
 softwares
  proprietários.
  Eu acabo fazendo tudo em caixa eletrônico. Eu não adiciono
 repositórios
  não oficiais e Oracle nem em Ubuntu ou Fedora tem.
 
 
  Olá!
 
  Aqui na empresa tudo funciona normalmente para com o Bando do
  Brasil, física ou jurídica, no Iceweasel + java da Oracle, atualmente
 versão
  7u51.
 
  A dificuldade é que de vez e nunca uma máquina dá problema para
  identificar o computador, aí tem que excluir .java, cookies, cache e
 tudo
  mais.
 
  Na versão 7u51, e nas outras por vir, precisa adicionar
  https://aapj.bb.com.br na lista de exceções de segurança no painel de
  controle do java.
 
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Re: OT: Don't let the MPAA buy the Web

2014-01-20 Thread SDeMario

Oi André,

Não fiz CP, enviei apenas para a lista Debianpelo menos é o que vejo 
na minha caixa de saída.


Listas brasileiras do Debian, eu mesmo só conheço esta que considero de 
boa qualidade, a qual sigo a muitos anos (to ficando velho...) e já me 
ajudou muito.


Aliás vejo uma tendência de abandono de listas de email, que é um 
formato que eu prefiro, por diversas razões, como já foi discutido por aqui.


Um modelo de lista que assino, mas que exige um certo controle dos 
mantenedores, é a lista de produtos Microchip que discute programação e 
hardware para microcontroladores PIC. Nesta lista discute-se isto e tudo 
o mais que existe no universo... Os assuntos são separados por tags no 
título, como [OT], [AD], [PIC], [EE], [BUY], e etc. Funciona direitinho, 
claro que os usuários são disciplinados. Estes tags permitem filtrar 
automaticamente na caixa de entrada e cada um vai parar na gaveta 
correta. É uma das listas mais interessantes que conheço, pela 
diversidade de temas.



Vinicius

Em 19-01-2014 17:08, André Nunes Batista escreveu:

On Sat, 2014-01-18 at 12:08 -0200, Vinicius wrote:

Desculpem o off topic, mas o assunto é relevante, em meu entendimento,
para o software livre e internet livre.

É uma campanha da FSF:

https://www.defectivebydesign.org/dont-let-the-mpaa-buy-the-web

Vinicius



Acho que tá mais pra cross posting to que off topic. Fico sempre em
dúvida se isso ajuda ou atrapalha, mas acho que quem já viu pula e quem
não viu talvez não visse sem o CP. Existe uma lista brasileira que
funcione como o debian-community internacional?

Aliás, posso aproveitar o off e perguntar por listas brasileiras
importantes/interessantes? Sei que a pergunta é vaga e o assunto é ot do
ot, então quem tiver alguma sugestão pode encaminhar diretamente pro meu
email pessoal.

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Re: Banco do Brasil, Iceweasel, Icedtea

2014-01-20 Thread Luiz L. Marins

Manoel,

Antes precisamos esclarecer, que o problema com o /internetbankink/ pode 
não ter nada a ver com a instalação do java em si, e sim com o suporte 
do banco. O meu java está instalado corretamente, devidamente 
reconhecido pelo site da Oracle, entretanto, o Santander não dá mais 
suporte ao Linux. Assim, precisei ligar para o suporte do banco e 
solicitar certos procedimentos administrativos, para que funcionasse 
...  que fique isto claro.


Então, a forma como instalo o java aqui é bem rudimentar:



a) primeiro, se tiver isto instalado, desinstale:

sudo apt-get remove openjdk* icedtea* java-package


b) baixe o java do site da oracle para a pasta de Download (isto você 
sabe, não preciso explicar)





Agora a instalação (leia tudo antes de fazer)



OBSERVAÇÕES IMPORTANTES:

1. se a pasta jvm em /usr/lib não existir, neste caso,o sistema colocará 
a pasta do java em /usr, portanto o link não funcionará .. basta cria-la 
(sudo mkdir /usr/lib/jvm), e retomar os passos.


2. nos comandos de exemplo [ XX ] é o número da versão do java que 
baixou, substitua.






JAVA ORACLE

por Luiz L. Marins


Atenção - esta dica é para .deb 32 bits ... se baixou 64 bits, troque na 
linha de comando abaixo:


Tenha certeza de não haver nenhum outro pacote TAR.GZ na pasta.

Feche os navegadores.

Abra um terminal e execute os comandos:


  cd Downloads
  sudo chmod +x *.tar.gz
  tar axvf *.tar.gz
  sudo mv jre1.7.0_XX /usr/lib/jvm



  Pronto, é só criar o link:



  Firefox

  sudo ln -s /usr/lib/jvm/jre1.7.0_XX/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so 
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins



 Faça o teste no site da Oracle para ver se o Java é reconhecido. Pode 
ser preciso habilitar no navegador.


 Relembrando ... se o site da Oracle reconhecer a instalação do Java, 
mas o banco não abrir, ligue para o suporte do banco, e solicite um 
procedimento especial para o seu caso.







Em 20-01-2014 11:21, Manoel Pedro de Araújo escreveu:
vc pode nos informar como instalar manualamente? instalei o 
java-package, porem nao funcionar desinstalei pretendo instalar 
manualmente mas nao estou conseguindo



Em 18 de janeiro de 2014 15:55, Luiz L. Marins 
luizlmar...@globomail.com mailto:luizlmar...@globomail.com escreveu:


Sempre instalo Java Oracle manualmente e após quatro comandos
básicos, tudo funciona.
Java é assim, quanto mais automático, pior fica. Nunca usei
java-package.
Faça na unha que dá certo.


Em 18-01-2014 15:09, Thiago Oliveira escreveu:

Pensava que o problema era soh meu, mas pelo jeito... no meu
notebook de manha(5:30) consegui entar ontem, mas a noite (18:00)
jah nao consegui mais...

*Thiago Oliveira*
Graduando de Segurança da Informação - FATEC São Caetano do Sul




Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 22:15, Fred Maranhão
fred.maran...@gmail.com mailto:fred.maran...@gmail.com escreveu:

existe algum banco que o site funciona sem dar problemas só
com software livre?

o meu iceweasel do debian testing e do unstable pararam de
funcionar
no bb.com.br http://bb.com.br

Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 16:51, Linux - Junior Polegato
li...@juniorpolegato.com.br
mailto:li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu:
 Em 17-01-2014 13:33, Jack Jr escreveu:

 No Banrisul nunca funcionou.
 No Brasil para abrir conta em banco é preciso comprovante
de renda,
 comprovante de residência, cópia de documentos pessoais e
kit de softwares
 proprietários.
 Eu acabo fazendo tudo em caixa eletrônico. Eu não adiciono
repositórios
 não oficiais e Oracle nem em Ubuntu ou Fedora tem.


 Olá!

 Aqui na empresa tudo funciona normalmente para com
o Bando do
 Brasil, física ou jurídica, no Iceweasel + java da Oracle,
atualmente versão
 7u51.

 A dificuldade é que de vez e nunca uma máquina dá
problema para
 identificar o computador, aí tem que excluir .java,
cookies, cache e tudo
 mais.

 Na versão 7u51, e nas outras por vir, precisa adicionar
 https://aapj.bb.com.br na lista de exceções de segurança no
painel de
 controle do java.

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Re: Banco do Brasil, Iceweasel, Icedtea

2014-01-20 Thread Gunther Furtado
Olá,

Em 20 de janeiro de 2014 11:50, Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezado Manoel,

 Basta realizar o download diretamente do site da Oracle e descompactar
 informando o diretorio. Por exemplo, eu utilizo /opt/java-version e crio
 duas variaveis de ambiente:
 1) JAVA_HOME = /opt/java-version/bin
 2) JRE_HOME = /opt/java-version/jre/bin

 Nunca fiz qualquer manipulacao de scripts /etc/alternatives, etc, e nem
 instalei o pacote debian **.deb ou via apt) e sempre funcionou
 corretamente.

 Caso desejar q seu sistema rode 100% aplicativos free, o pacote utilizado
 eh o openjdk e acredito q apos sua instalacao creio q nao ha necessidade de
 configurar nada. O povo pode ratificar ou retificar.


Sua explicação está muito boa, o problema é precisamente que tanto o
openjdk do sid quanto do testing não estão funcionando no bb.com.br.

abs.,







 Em 20 de janeiro de 2014 10:21, Manoel Pedro de Araújo mpara...@gmail.com
  escreveu:

 vc pode nos informar como instalar manualamente? instalei o java-package,
 porem nao funcionar desinstalei pretendo instalar manualmente mas nao estou
 conseguindo


 Em 18 de janeiro de 2014 15:55, Luiz L. Marins luizlmar...@globomail.com
  escreveu:

  Sempre instalo Java Oracle manualmente e após quatro comandos básicos,
 tudo funciona.
 Java é assim, quanto mais automático, pior fica. Nunca usei
 java-package.
 Faça na unha que dá certo.


 Em 18-01-2014 15:09, Thiago Oliveira escreveu:

 Pensava que o problema era soh meu, mas pelo jeito... no meu notebook de
 manha(5:30) consegui entar ontem, mas a noite (18:00) jah nao consegui
 mais...

  *Thiago Oliveira*
 Graduando de Segurança da Informação - FATEC São Caetano do Sul




 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 22:15, Fred Maranhão 
 fred.maran...@gmail.comescreveu:

 existe algum banco que o site funciona sem dar problemas só com
 software livre?

 o meu iceweasel do debian testing e do unstable pararam de funcionar
 no bb.com.br

 Em 17 de janeiro de 2014 16:51, Linux - Junior Polegato
 li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu:
   Em 17-01-2014 13:33, Jack Jr escreveu:
 
  No Banrisul nunca funcionou.
  No Brasil para abrir conta em banco é preciso comprovante de renda,
  comprovante de residência, cópia de documentos pessoais e kit de
 softwares
  proprietários.
  Eu acabo fazendo tudo em caixa eletrônico. Eu não adiciono
 repositórios
  não oficiais e Oracle nem em Ubuntu ou Fedora tem.
 
 
  Olá!
 
  Aqui na empresa tudo funciona normalmente para com o Bando do
  Brasil, física ou jurídica, no Iceweasel + java da Oracle, atualmente
 versão
  7u51.
 
  A dificuldade é que de vez e nunca uma máquina dá problema
 para
  identificar o computador, aí tem que excluir .java, cookies, cache e
 tudo
  mais.
 
  Na versão 7u51, e nas outras por vir, precisa adicionar
  https://aapj.bb.com.br na lista de exceções de segurança no painel de
  controle do java.
 
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Sistema Para Pátio de Recolhimento de Veículos.

2014-01-20 Thread Cleber Cardoso | Confisca Software para Pátio .
Problema com a visualização da mensagem? Clique aqui 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/visualizar/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3ClCqP3nd60CC9XkqHh1p1XBTPVn5dq3gHPxDg1XeSHY5bsCERaU7ONaTw7Vc0YX4dGhsBIS3jG-0tqgP8l9a8w].

Sistema Para Pátio de Recolhimento de Veículos…

 

Acesse www.confisca.com.br 
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Veja a demonstração do sistema no youtube:

Vídeos 1 :

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Vídeos 2 :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=QxdpPn7z2q0 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/link/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3AayuV7DOkGs0hxBF8B6b1RZKQJps2KIRD7nyP1q9xa0w]

 

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A apreensão e recolhimento de veículos para o pátio, administrado pelas 
autoridades publicas ou empresas terceirizadas, representa uma das operações 
mais críticas realizadas pela equipe de fiscalização, tendo em vista que ao 
tomar esta atitude, a guarda e integridade do veículo apreendido passa a ser de 
inteira
responsabilidade do pátio de recolhimento de veículos.

Considerando uma realidade operacional, a Analysis Consultoria tem à disposição 
um sistema para gestão, capaz de permitir total controle sobre todas as 
operações realizadas nos pátios.

O software CONFISCA é responsável pelo controle da entrada dos veículos 
apreendidos , pelo período de permanência, geração de guias para recebimento de 
estadias, cadastramento  de diárias, cadastramento do  estado físico do veículo 
e seus pertences, cadastro do condutor, artigo referente à infração cometida 
pelo condutor,
nome do policial ou agente que fez a apreensão, cadastro de testemunhas, 
notificação indicando se o veículos está à disposição da delegacia, emissão de 
notificação ao proprietário para retirada do veículo antes do envio do mesmo a 
leilão, obedecendo a prazos e procedimentos legais.

O sistema disponibiliza também diversos relatórios operacionais e gerenciais de 
modo a oferecer ao administrador (Gestor) do pátio todas as informações 
necessárias de forma rápida e precisa.

O software é flexível e dinâmico, seu desenvolvimento é constante, podendo 
assim receber novas alteração como novos módulos, relatórios e etc.  

 

Funcionalidades do Sistema.

 

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O Software:

O Software Confisca e um programa de Computador especifico para pátio de

recolhimento de Veículos Apreendidos, Indicado para Pátios Terceirizados 
(particular),Policia Militar, Guarda Municipal, Detran e Secretaria de Transito.

coins_icon 
[http://confisca.com.br/site2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/coins_icon.bmp] 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/link/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3Bqgd1WXvWVh-DhQ8tX9dezuGHwwDOLFe6XPkO3r1SUhg]

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[http://confisca.com.br/site2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/processes_icon.bmp] 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/link/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3CrBVWrqXnZcUfrPugmikvL5-Px_kn8Cvri6-htice1Kg]

 

Banco de Dados:

Sua Arquitetura foi desenhada para Armazena e administrar todas as

informações de forma rápida e eficaz, o Banco de dados trabalha com plataforma

de Alta performance e robustez no gerenciamento.

Trocar_Senha_75x65 
[http://confisca.com.br/site2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Trocar_Senha_75x65.bmp]
 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/link/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3CWiqe_7YPtVrlCJhkav04xvPQ0dtUG87HCpeC8y7tM-g]

 

Autenticação de Usuário:

O sistema trabalha com total segurança das informações, apenas usuários 
autenticados pode operar o softwares, seus módulos são separados em inclusão, 
alteração e exclusão isso e determinado para cada usuário, com o seu motor de 
log e possível identificar qualquer alteração e por parte de quem foi feita.

note_accept 
[http://confisca.com.br/site2/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/note_accept.png] 
[http://mbox12.confisca.com.br/link/kLg43WclYmyMkPWaxDM9NhW3g-NxHMBl6DdGNlRuo3CAVbvyrfXHZ09W3sMJ5CRBtK7-PJe74Fzqa6frT3NQ4Q]

 

Código de Transito Brasileiro (C.T.B).

O sistema já vem com a tabela de Código de Transito Brasileiro (C.T.B), Tabela 
de código de Transito do seu município assim no ato da retenção e 

desinstalei imageMagick perdi o gnomeshell

2014-01-20 Thread Alex Clemente
ola lista,
desinstalei o programa imageMagick e quando reiniciei perdi a interface
gnomeshell.
Preciso reinstalar o debian 7 ou tem como recuperar o gnomeshell?
[]s


Re: desinstalei imageMagick perdi o gnomeshell

2014-01-20 Thread Jack Jr
Pode reinstalar apenas o Gnome-Shell e verifica se mais alguma coisa foi 
removida junto por engano.



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Em 20-01-2014 16:55, Alex Clemente escreveu:

ola lista,
desinstalei o programa imageMagick e quando reiniciei perdi a 
interface gnomeshell.

Preciso reinstalar o debian 7 ou tem como recuperar o gnomeshell?
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Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-20 Thread Helmut Wollmersdorfer


Am 17.01.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:

 Is there any computer able to produce just a simple pop song that
 reaches the top ten? A computer is able to produce a jazz, rock,
 classical style song, but not able to touch human emotions.

Artificial Intelligence needs Artificial Emotions.

It was in the year 1987 taht I first saw a paper about Artifcial Emotions, but 
nearly no progress since.

Helmut Wollmersdorfer

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Re: sad but true, Linux sucks, a bit

2014-01-20 Thread Jeff Bauer

On 01/20/2014 05:20 AM, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:


Am 17.01.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net:


A computer is able to produce a jazz, rock,
classical style song, but not able to touch human emotions.

Artificial Intelligence needs Artificial Emotions.

It was in the year 1987 taht I first saw a paper about Artifcial Emotions, but 
nearly no progress since.


If you want to experience artificial emotions, date a native California 
girl.


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Status of Intel GMA 500?

2014-01-20 Thread Stefan Ott

Hi

I am currently trying to get a device with an Intel GMA 500 graphics 
chip to run with Debian Wheezy. However, I don't seem to be able to get 
anything other than a standard VGA console out of the hardware.


Basically, these are the issues:

- The proprietary Intel driver as well as the psb driver don't seem to 
work with / compile against Wheezy's version of Xorg. I am not 
particularly saddened by this though since I'd rather get the new, 
in-kernel driver to work.
- Which brings us to the next issue: as soon as I load the gma500_gfx 
kernel module my screen goes blank. I have no idea whether this is 
because of a wrong display resolution, because the backlight misbehaves 
or for some other reason. Attached you will find the kernel output that 
I get when loading the module.
- Since this may very well be an issue with the display resolution I 
decided to try and just run X, hoping for things to magically start 
working. With the vesafb driver X does indeed loat but it only runs at 
640x480 (according to the log) and I still don't get any video output. 
With the modesetting driver X fails to load, the xorg.conf and 
Xorg.0.log files for this setup are also attached.


It might be worth mentioning that I have tried kernel 3.2 from Wheezy as 
well as 3.12 from unstable and I've also replaced the modesetting driver 
from Wheezy (0.3.0) with 0.8.1 from unstable. None of that changed any 
of the symptoms.


I am now wondering whether a) the combination of gma500_gfx and 
modesetting Xorg driver is the currently recommended way to use GMA 500 
chips with Debian and b) what I could be doing wrong, i.e. why my screen 
remains blank and Xorg fails to load.


Any hints and suggestions would be appreciated.

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[  181.050471] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[  181.084334] gma500 :00:02.0: setting latency timer to 64
[  181.092075] ioremap error for 0x3fa8e000-0x3fa91000, requested 0x10, got 0x0
[  181.092365] Stolen memory information
[  181.092469]base in RAM: 0x3fc0
[  181.092571]size: 3836K, calculated by (GTT RAM base) - (Stolen 
base), seems wrong
[  181.092716]   the correct size should be: 4M(dvmt mode=2)
[  181.094586] Set up 959 stolen pages starting at 0x3fc0, GTT offset 0K
[  181.094887] [drm] SGX core id = 0x0113
[  181.094992] [drm] SGX core rev major = 0x01, minor = 0x02
[  181.095101] [drm] SGX core rev maintenance = 0x01, designer = 0x00
[  181.108151] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1 (10.10.2010).
[  181.108293] [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
[  181.432636] gma500 :00:02.0: Backlight lvds set brightness 7a12
[  181.432762] [drm] Initialized gma500 1.0.0 2011-06-06 for :00:02.0 on 
minor 0
Section Screen
Identifier MainScreen
DefaultDepth24
SubSection Display
Depth   24
Modes  1680x1050
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section Device
Identifier  gma500
Driver  modesetting
EndSection
[88.434] 
X.Org X Server 1.12.4
Release Date: 2012-08-27
[88.435] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[88.436] Build Operating System: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 i686 Debian
[88.436] Current Operating System: Linux annax 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 i686
[88.437] Kernel command line: root=UUID=9e37b240-97d3-4c0d-aa7f-492fe02e6b45 noswap ro video=1680x1050
[88.438] Build Date: 21 October 2013  05:31:52PM
[88.438] xorg-server 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u1 (Moritz Muehlenhoff j...@debian.org) 
[88.439] Current version of pixman: 0.26.0
[88.440] 	Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
	to make sure that you have the latest version.
[88.440] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
	(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[88.443] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Thu Sep 17 00:37:23 2009
[88.453] (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[88.453] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[88.457] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[88.457] (**) |--Screen MainScreen (0)
[88.457] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
[88.458] (==) No device specified for screen MainScreen.
	Using the first device section listed.
[88.458] (**) |   |--Device gma500
[88.458] (==) No monitor specified for screen MainScreen.
	Using a default monitor configuration.
[88.458] (==) Automatically adding devices
[88.458] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[88.465] (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc does not exist.
[88.465] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[88.465] (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic does not exist.
[88.465] 	Entry deleted from font path.
[88.465] (WW) The directory /usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/ does not exist.
[88.465] 	Entry 

Re: Status of Intel GMA 500?

2014-01-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 01:06:21PM +0100, Stefan Ott wrote:
 Hi
 

Have you seen this:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/poulsbo


 Section Screen
 Identifier MainScreen
 DefaultDepth24
 SubSection Display
 Depth   24
 Modes  1680x1050
 EndSubSection
 EndSection


Maybe you need to specify more/different Modes?


 [88.457] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
 [88.457] (**) |--Screen MainScreen (0)
 [88.457] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
 [88.458] (==) No device specified for screen MainScreen.
   Using the first device section listed.
 [88.458] (**) |   |--Device gma500
 [88.458] (==) No monitor specified for screen MainScreen.
   Using a default monitor configuration.

Maybe you need these other sections also?


 [88.554] (II) UnloadModule: modesetting
 [88.554] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.


Have you tried generating an Xorg via: 'Xorg -configure' and see if any
clues avail themselves.

Sorry, I can't be anymore help.

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How to unbind MacBook mouse buttons from Fn-F10 and Fn-F11

2014-01-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
I've just installed Debian jessie (testing) on a MacBook Pro and it's
doing my head in :-(  I wonder if anyone has any ideas that might help
me

I'm using XFCE4 as my window manager, if that makes any difference.

I really want to still have my F10 and F11 function keys work as just
that; I'm happy to lose the apple-cmd keys to the left and right
mouse buttons (which are also in a much more convenient location).

I found that the page
https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Mouse_2nd_and_3rd_buttons is fine
(though I had to change the keycodes), as long as I then enabled it
using xkbset -m.

But I can't find any way to turn off the F10 and F11 mouse button
emulation :-(

I found that /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode was 97,
mouse_button3_keycode was 100 (or perhaps it was the other way
around), and mouse_button_emulation was 0, yet it was still
emulating.  I set mouse_button2_keycode to 133 (left apple) and
mouse_button3_keycode to 134, and echo'd 1 to mouse_button_emulation,
but that made no difference to the function key behaviour.

So something somewhere else is capturing these button presses, but I
don't know where.

Does anyone have any clue?

Many thanks,

   Julian


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Citrix Receiver 13 on amd64-multiarch

2014-01-20 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Heya,

maybe someone has a great idea for this problem.

Citrix has released a new receiver (basically the client for their
terminalserver solution) for Linux.

http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-130.html

The amd64 variant is basically i386 plus dependencies on ia32-libs (not
in Jessie/Testing) and nspluginwrapper (not in Wheezy+), so no go.

The i386 variant worked fine (after some massaging) in Version 12.1.0
on a multi-arch enabled Jessie box, but cannot be installed in 13.0. The
reason:

icaclient:i386 depends on libwebkit-1.0-2 (squeeze-only) | libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
  libwebkitgtk-1.0-0:i386 depends on libenchant1c2a:i386
libenchant1c2a:i386 depends on libaspell15:i386
  libaspell15:i386 and libaspell15:amd64 are not co-installable (not
  multi-arch, see Bug#667592

The latter bug does not look like it is going to be resolved soon, which
is quite unfortunate. 

Does anyone have better experience with Citrix?

I did a few more tests, including installation of the binaries from the
.tgz in /opt and porting over nspluginwrapper from Ubuntu, but all I get
is a segfaulting wfica when it should connect.

Bernhard


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Re: Problem creating iso for a USB stick

2014-01-20 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi,

Stelian Iancu wrote:
 Today once I got back to work I wanted to recreate the bad iso for you to
 test. So I have created a new fresh VM with Debian 7.3.0 (and xorriso 1.2.2)
 and this time it worked flawlessly.

That's much better than if it would work for me but not for you.

Note (again), this is good only for booting PC-BIOS but not
for EFI firmware (some hardware for amd64 has it).


 I took your advice and I took the -isohybrid-mbr template from the original
 ISO image as well. Could it be that? Before I used to take the one that
 comes with the syslinux package.

It could. But it would not explain why you succeeded with
your xorriso-1.3.4 experiment.


It was a bit sloppy by me to use all the first 32768 bytes of
the original image, because now we have copied a wrong GPT
partition table into the new image. PC-BIOS should not care.
EFI or partition editors might take offense.

More neat is to cut out only the first 512 bytes of the image
so that it has the same size as the MBR template isohdpfx.bin
from a locally installed SYSLINUX:

  dd if=/root/debian/debian-7.3.0-amd64-netinst.iso \
 bs=512 count=1 \
 of=/root/debian/debian-7.3.0-amd64-netinst.mbr

  xorriso -as mkisofs ... \
 -isohybrid-mbr /root/debian/debian-7.3.0-amd64-netinst.mbr \
 ...

This is only a problem, because we did not prepare the image
for EFI booting by the omitted (non-jigdo) options.
With those options, the GPT would be updated to match the
new ISO image size and position of the EFI boot image.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas


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Gunicorn init script

2014-01-20 Thread Philippe Clérié
I have a strange problem with Gunicorn on Debian Wheezy. Using Debian 
init scripts, it does not start on a cold boot but works just fine if 
started manually or on a warm reboot.


Any ideas what could cause that?


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RE: Including git commands in preseed

2014-01-20 Thread Todd Maurice
 What does that mean to you?  Do you mean when you log into the system
 at the login prompt?  That is confusingly written but that is how I
 translate it when I read it.  If so then that is NOT what late_command
 does.  It will NEVER do what you are asking because that is not what
 late_command does.

Igor explained it better than I could. Coming from Windows I was thinking 
autorun as the script writing Hello World on the screen when I log in as 
user. 

 use the preseed to add a 
script during installation which will then run upon 
users login when  the freshly installed system reboots.

I have been using Hello World script to reduce problems that might arise from 
using a complex script but later I would like to use this setup for autologin.

#!/bin/bash
sed -i '54d' /etc/inittab
echo 1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f user tty1 /dev/tty1 /dev/tty1 21  
/etc/inittab
  

Re: Gunicorn init script

2014-01-20 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:44:35PM -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:
 I have a strange problem with Gunicorn on Debian Wheezy. Using
 Debian init scripts, it does not start on a cold boot but works just
 fine if started manually or on a warm reboot.
 
 Any ideas what could cause that?
 
 
 -- 
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 Anonymous
 
 

Well,
common sense should tell you to look at the log. The information provided
nobody can help you with your problem.

-H

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Re: Gunicorn init script

2014-01-20 Thread Philippe Clérié

On 01/20/2014 01:20 PM, Henning Follmann wrote:

On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 12:44:35PM -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:

I have a strange problem with Gunicorn on Debian Wheezy. Using
Debian init scripts, it does not start on a cold boot but works just
fine if started manually or on a warm reboot.

Any ideas what could cause that?


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Well,
common sense should tell you to look at the log. The information provided
nobody can help you with your problem.

-H



Sorry. :-) Not common sense. Automatic reflexes.

Nothing in syslog or messages. Nothing in gunicorn logs, not even a 
trace that it attempted to start. And on boot, the init script message 
from gunicorn is barely visible long enough before the screen is cleared 
for the login prompt; I get a glimpse of it on reboot, but not on cold boot.


Is there a way to make the init process more verbose?

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Re: Gunicorn init script

2014-01-20 Thread Frank
On 01/20/2014 06:44 PM, Philippe Clérié wrote:
 I have a strange problem with Gunicorn on Debian Wheezy. Using Debian
 init scripts, it does not start on a cold boot but works just fine if
 started manually or on a warm reboot.

 Any ideas what could cause that?


Yeah, compare the environments. I'll bet the init scripts missing some
essential stuff for gunicorn.

Cheers
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Re: Gunicorn init script

2014-01-20 Thread Henning Follmann
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 02:48:12PM -0500, Philippe Clérié wrote:
 On 01/20/2014 01:20 PM, Henning Follmann wrote:
[...]
 
 Nothing in syslog or messages. Nothing in gunicorn logs, not even a
 trace that it attempted to start. And on boot, the init script
 message from gunicorn is barely visible long enough before the
 screen is cleared for the login prompt; I get a glimpse of it on
 reboot, but not on cold boot.
 
 Is there a way to make the init process more verbose?
 
 -- 
 Philippe
 

Yes,
in Wheezy bootlogd is active by default. In previous versions you had to
enable it by setting
BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=yes 
in /etc/default/bootlogd

The boot messages will be logged to /var/log/boot

HTH
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Determine XTerm Geometry

2014-01-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
Need to get geometry of running xterms.  Resize gives me the columns
and lines.  How do I get the X  Y offsets?

Thanks.

B


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Re: How to unbind MacBook mouse buttons from Fn-F10 and Fn-F11

2014-01-20 Thread Felix C. Stegerman
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On 2014-01-20 15:03, Julian Gilbey wrote:
 I've just installed Debian jessie (testing) on a MacBook Pro and
 it's doing my head in :-(  I wonder if anyone has any ideas that
 might help me
 
 I'm using XFCE4 as my window manager, if that makes any
 difference.
 
 I really want to still have my F10 and F11 function keys work as
 just that; I'm happy to lose the apple-cmd keys to the left and
 right mouse buttons (which are also in a much more convenient
 location).
 
 I found that the page 
 https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook#Mouse_2nd_and_3rd_buttons is fine 
 (though I had to change the keycodes), as long as I then enabled
 it using xkbset -m.
 
 But I can't find any way to turn off the F10 and F11 mouse button 
 emulation :-(
 
 I found that /proc/sys/dev/mac_hid/mouse_button2_keycode was 97, 
 mouse_button3_keycode was 100 (or perhaps it was the other way 
 around), and mouse_button_emulation was 0, yet it was still 
 emulating.  I set mouse_button2_keycode to 133 (left apple) and 
 mouse_button3_keycode to 134, and echo'd 1 to
 mouse_button_emulation, but that made no difference to the function
 key behaviour.
 
 So something somewhere else is capturing these button presses, but
 I don't know where.
 
 Does anyone have any clue?

IIRC there's the mouseemu package.

You may also be interested in this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard

 Many thanks,
 
 Julian


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Re: Determine XTerm Geometry

2014-01-20 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hello Patrick,

* Patrick Bartek wrote on 2014-01-20 at 13:18 (-0800):

 Need to get geometry of running xterms.  Resize gives me the
 columns and lines.  How do I get the X  Y offsets?

take a look at

  $ xwininfo -id WINDOW_ID

Perhaps that helps.

Regards,
Mathias


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Advice needed: Proper package maintainer for Bug Report

2014-01-20 Thread Paul
Hi,

Please advise whom I should report the following bug:

I experience a total computer lockup shortly after booting the computer. No
particular application is involved. The scenario occurs while working in
the Gnome 3 desktop environment (gdm3).  Keyboard and mouse input is
ignored. The screen image remains visible and undisturbed as at the time of
lockup. The only recourse is a hard reset by pressing and holding the power
button.

This bug appeared after I installed the firmware-linux-nonfree package from
Debian stable (Wheezy) with the intention of making my ATI/AMD Radeon X300
graphics card capable of 3D acceleration. (The Gnome3 desktop requries 3D
acceleration via the Mesa Gallium 0.4 driver.) The bug goes away if the
NoAccel option is set to True in xorg.conf or if the firmware-linux-nonfree
package is removed. Another user reported a identical problem at -
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43835

I am unsure whether to report the bug to Xorg, Mesa (Gallium) or Debian.
Please provide a link. Your advice is appreciated.

Thank you in advance,

Paul

Dell Dimension 8400
Intel® Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
ATI Radeon X300 (RV370) 5B60 (PCIE) (ChipID = 0x5b60)
Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 i686 Debian
xorg-server 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2
Mesa-8.0.5-1


Re: Determine XTerm Geometry

2014-01-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Mon, 20 Jan 2014, Mathias Bauer wrote:

 Hello Patrick,
 
 * Patrick Bartek wrote on 2014-01-20 at 13:18 (-0800):
 
  Need to get geometry of running xterms.  Resize gives me the
  columns and lines.  How do I get the X  Y offsets?
 
 take a look at
 
   $ xwininfo -id WINDOW_ID
 
 Perhaps that helps.

It did indeed.  Gives me more than I needed.  Thanks.

And FYI:  you don't even need the WINDOW_ID. Just run xwininfo in any
terminal, left click on the target window, and it spits out THAT
windows stats.

Thanks again.

B


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Re: How to unbind MacBook mouse buttons from Fn-F10 and Fn-F11

2014-01-20 Thread Julian Gilbey
Thanks for the pointer!

   Julian


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Re: Determine XTerm Geometry

2014-01-20 Thread Mathias Bauer
* Patrick Bartek wrote on 2014-01-20 at 14:35 (-0800):

 And FYI: you don't even need the WINDOW_ID. Just run xwininfo
 in any terminal, left click on the target window, and it spits
 out THAT windows stats.

I know :-)  You mentioned, you already had columns and lines (via
the $COLUMNS/$LINES shell variables?), so I supposed, you wanted
to do some non-interactive scripting...

Regards,
Mathias


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HP laserjet 6MP blanco paginas Debian 7.0 (64)

2014-01-20 Thread dick kampman
On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 00:03 +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 Op 18-01-14 23:25, dick kampman schreef:
 
  Het is gewoon  lastig ge-etter, waar ik uren tijd in moet steken.
  Terwijl ik gewoon aan het werk wil zijn.
 
 Inderdaad heel vervelend.
 
 Ik kwam laatst ook tegen dat ik via Iceweasel localhost:631 de default
 options van een printer niet kon instellen. Het bleek te maken te hebben
 met de NoScript plugin. Gebruik je die wellicht?
 
 Met in NoScript de optie Javascript algemeen toestaan (riskant) aan,
 gaat het wel goed. NoScript gaf geen melding dat het javascript
 blokkeerde, dit lijkt dus een bug in NoScript.
 
 Ook met een andere browser (Chromium) ging het goed.

Bedankt voor de adviezen. 

Ik heb er uiteraard nog wat  verder aan gewerkt. NoScript was, dacht
ik, niet aan de orde (ik neem aan dat de browser-preferences bedoeld
zijn). 

Helaas de door System Settings zelf gegenereerde ppd-file voor deze
printer, blijft blanco pagina's afleveren. Er is in de ppd-file geen
mogelijkheid om de item black/white False of True te maken. 

Ook de mogelijkheid via Chromium-browser gaf mij geen mogelijkheid tot
configuratie op dit punt.

Ik blijf dus nog maar even werken met een alien(fedora)driver. Die werkt
weliswaar, maar beperkt.

Dick Kampman


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Re: HP laserjet 6MP blanco paginas Debian 7.0 (64)

2014-01-20 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Monday 20 January 2014 12:01:21 dick kampman wrote:
 Ik blijf dus nog maar even werken met een alien(fedora)driver. Die werkt
 weliswaar, maar beperkt.

Je zou het ook op de debian-user ML kunnen proberen of misschien nog 
effectiever, IRC in #debian (of #debian-next als je testing/sid gebruikt)
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Re: HP laserjet 6MP blanco paginas Debian 7.0 (64)

2014-01-20 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hoi Dick,

Op 20-01-14 12:01, dick kampman schreef:
 On Sun, 2014-01-19 at 00:03 +0100, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
 Op 18-01-14 23:25, dick kampman schreef:

 Het is gewoon  lastig ge-etter, waar ik uren tijd in moet steken.
 Terwijl ik gewoon aan het werk wil zijn.

 Inderdaad heel vervelend.

 Ik kwam laatst ook tegen dat ik via Iceweasel localhost:631 de default
 options van een printer niet kon instellen. Het bleek te maken te hebben
 met de NoScript plugin. Gebruik je die wellicht?

 Met in NoScript de optie Javascript algemeen toestaan (riskant) aan,
 gaat het wel goed. NoScript gaf geen melding dat het javascript
 blokkeerde, dit lijkt dus een bug in NoScript.

 Ook met een andere browser (Chromium) ging het goed.
 
 Bedankt voor de adviezen. 
 
 Ik heb er uiteraard nog wat  verder aan gewerkt. NoScript was, dacht
 ik, niet aan de orde (ik neem aan dat de browser-preferences bedoeld
 zijn). 

NoScript is een plugin.
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xul-ext-noscript

 Helaas de door System Settings zelf gegenereerde ppd-file voor deze
 printer, blijft blanco pagina's afleveren. Er is in de ppd-file geen
 mogelijkheid om de item black/white False of True te maken. 

Je kunt kiezen uit vele PPD's voor deze printer, heb je er meerdere
geprobeerd?  Verder kun je op openprinting.org er nog meer vinden:
http://openprinting.org/printers

Ik kom af en toe wel eens een bestand tegen wat problemen geeft bij het
printen, ik gebruik dan een andere driver. Gebruik je steeds hetzelfde
bestand om te testen?

 Ook de mogelijkheid via Chromium-browser gaf mij geen mogelijkheid tot
 configuratie op dit punt.

Kun je geen printer defaults instellen via localhost:631 ?

Je doet dat door naar de printer te gaan die je wilt wijzigen, dan de
rechter dropdown box, en dan kiezen voor set default options.

Er behoort dan een venster te verschijnen waarin je o.a. het default
papierformaat kunt kiezen. Gebeurd dat niet, dan zou dat een javascript
probleem kunnen zijn (dat was het bij mij).

 Ik blijf dus nog maar even werken met een alien(fedora)driver. Die werkt
 weliswaar, maar beperkt.
 
 Dick Kampman
 

Groet,
Paul.




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Re: HP laserjet 6MP blanco paginas Debian 7.0 (64)

2014-01-20 Thread dick kampman
On Mon, 2014-01-20 at 12:05 +0100, Diederik de Haas wrote:
 On Monday 20 January 2014 12:01:21 dick kampman wrote:
  Ik blijf dus nog maar even werken met een alien(fedora)driver. Die werkt
  weliswaar, maar beperkt.
 
 Je zou het ook op de debian-user ML kunnen proberen of misschien nog 
 effectiever, IRC in #debian (of #debian-next als je testing/sid gebruikt)

dit is geheimtaal voor mij. leg eens uit.

Dick Kampman



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Re: HP laserjet 6MP blanco paginas Debian 7.0 (64)

2014-01-20 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Monday 20 January 2014 22:50:24 dick kampman wrote:
  Je zou het ook op de debian-user ML kunnen proberen of misschien nog 
  effectiever, IRC in #debian (of #debian-next als je testing/sid gebruikt)
 
 dit is geheimtaal voor mij. leg eens uit.

Dit is de debian-user-dutch mailing list (ML), maar er is ook een debian-
u...@lists.debian.org list. Deze is engelstalig, maar wordt door veel meer 
mensen gevolgd, dus de kans dat er iemand is die jouw probleem herkend (en een 
oplossing heeft) is een stuk groter.

Daarnaast heb je Internet Relay Chat, een online chat protocol (zoiets als MSN 
als je dat wel wat zegt). Zie http://www.debian.org/support.en.html#irc
Op het debian channel (aangeduid met #debian) zijn er diverse (500) mensen 
online die andere mensen proberen te helpen. Er zijn nogal wat deskundige 
mensen daar online, dus het zou me verbazen als ze je niet verder kunnen 
helpen. Ook hier dien je engels te 'praten'. Er is ook een #debian-nl channel, 
maar (volgens mij) vindt je daar vooral dezelfde mensen als op deze ML.

Ik hoop dat het nu wat duidelijker is.

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