Re: [Wheezy] installation sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h

2014-06-10 Thread Diogene Laerce


On 06/09/2014 09:38 PM, pascatgm wrote:
 Le 08/06/2014 01:51, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 Bonjour,

 J'essaie d'installer une Debian Wheezy sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h.
 L'installation se passe bien mais au démarrage j'ai un problème (qui ne
 m'étonne pas spécialement) avec la partie vidéo. Au début ça s'affiche
 correctement mais au bout de quelques secondes l'affichage part en
 cacahuète. Je voudrais donc booter en console pure. J'ai essayé le mode
 de dépannage mais il effectue aussi un changement de mode graphique qui
 amène au même problème qu'en mode normal. J'aimerai donc booter en
 restant en mode vga de base mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut mettre
 dans grub pour éviter le switch de mode graphique ?

 Gaëtan

 Bonsoir,
 Ca ne va pas faire bcp avancer mais le problème. Mais j'ai les mêmes
 symptômes sur un hp compaq 6710b. Au bout d'une vingtaine plus ou moins
 aléatoirement d'essais l'affichage normal apparaît.
 Vraisemblablement un défaut de pilote vidéo ou un pilote vidéo inadapté
 suite à une mise à jour un peu sauvage.

Tu peux essayer un de ceux proposes ici :

 http://pierre.baudu.in/other/grub.vga.modes.html

Ou, si le probleme persiste, tu peux essayer d'installer le pilote
proprietaire en mode chroot. Voir le post de chibata ici :

 http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3991758

Bonne chance !

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Re: [Wheezy] installation sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h

2014-06-10 Thread François Patte
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Le 08/06/2014 01:51, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 J'essaie d'installer une Debian Wheezy sur un Acer Aspire One
 A0751h. L'installation se passe bien mais au démarrage j'ai un
 problème (qui ne m'étonne pas spécialement) avec la partie vidéo.
 Au début ça s'affiche correctement mais au bout de quelques
 secondes l'affichage part en cacahuète. Je voudrais donc booter en
 console pure. J'ai essayé le mode de dépannage mais il effectue
 aussi un changement de mode graphique qui amène au même problème
 qu'en mode normal. J'aimerai donc booter en restant en mode vga de
 base mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut mettre dans grub pour éviter
 le switch de mode graphique ?

Quand l'écran GRUB s'affiche choisir l'OS qu'on veut booter, appuyer
sur la touche e (édition) et ajouter à la fin de la ligne: text

Après il suffit de booter en tapant Entrée (je crois; c'est écrit sur
l'aide grub qui s'affiche quand on a pressé e)

Evidemment ceci n'est pas pérenne mais permet de ne pas lancer X pour
une session.

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raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread Grégoire COUTANT

Bonjour à tous,
N'étant pas un expert de la gestion du raid, j'en appelle à vos lumières.
J'ai créé un raid10 à l'installation d'une debian wheezy.
Régulièrement deux disques sortent du raid, voire quand ça reboote, je 
vois un nouveau raid de créé (md127) sans savoir d'où ça vient.


Savez-vous ce que je peux regarder pour comprendre où ça pose pb et 
comment faire pour obtenir un raid fonctionnel ?


root@serre:~# cat /proc/mdstat
Personalities : [raid10]
md127 : active (auto-read-only) raid10 sda1[4] sde1[5]
  1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [_U_U]

md0 : active raid10 sdc1[0] sdd1[2]
  1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [U_U_]

unused devices: none

Le listing des disques :

root@serre:~# fdisk -l

WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sda'! The util 
fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.



Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
81 heads, 63 sectors/track, 382818 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda12048  1953525167   976761560   fd  Linux raid 
autodetect


WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdc'! The util 
fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.



Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
78 heads, 63 sectors/track, 397542 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc12048  1953525167   976761560   fd  Linux raid 
autodetect


Disk /dev/sdb: 120.0 GB, 120034123776 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14593 cylinders, total 234441648 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x371c

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1   *2048   224860159   112429056   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2   224862206   234440703 47892495  Extended
/dev/sdb5   224862208   234440703 4789248   82  Linux swap / Solaris

WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdd'! The util 
fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.



Disk /dev/sdd: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
81 heads, 63 sectors/track, 382818 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdd12048  1953525167   976761560   fd  Linux raid 
autodetect


WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sde'! The util 
fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.



Disk /dev/sde: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
81 heads, 63 sectors/track, 382818 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sde12048  1953525167   976761560   fd  Linux raid 
autodetect


Disk /dev/md0: 2000.1 GB, 2000138797056 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 488315136 cylinders, total 3906521088 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 524288 bytes / 1048576 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

Disk /dev/md0 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Disk /dev/md127: 2000.1 GB, 2000138797056 bytes
2 heads, 4 sectors/track, 488315136 cylinders, total 3906521088 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 524288 bytes / 1048576 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x

Disk /dev/md127 doesn't contain a valid partition table

Merci

Greg

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Re: [TECH] Créer un serveur SMS avec un GSM relié par USB

2014-06-10 Thread Fabrice Regnier

'lut,


Et qu'il y aurait aussi d'autres solutions que je n'aurai pas vu...
Histoire de voir plus loin.
Je me suis posé la même question il y a très longtemps et finalement, 
j'ai opté pour un service d'envoi de sms peu onéreux avec les api php 
qui vont bien: http://www.verysms.fr/


Ça fait presque 10 ans que ça dure et Paolo le dev, en plus d'être 
efficace, est très sympa. Et non, je ne suis pas actionnaire ;)


a+

f.

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Re: raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 10/06/2014 10:03, Grégoire COUTANT a écrit :

Bonjour à tous,


Bonjour

[...]
Régulièrement deux disques sortent du raid, voire quand ça reboote, je 
vois un nouveau raid de créé (md127) sans savoir d'où ça vient.



[...]

Un rapide coup d'oeil sur un site de recherche montre que md127 est un 
device créé par mdadm lorsqu'il rencontre une erreur.


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Re: nouvelles failles openssl

2014-06-10 Thread VieuxGeek DuSystem
Bonjour

il faut (bizarrement) attendre...

Non rien de bizard
https://www.debian.org/devel/testing


Le 7 juin 2014 11:09, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit :

 Bonjour
 Sid semble avoir corrigé les failles. Quant à Jessie, il faut
 (bizarrement) attendre...
 Il paraît que
 Les versions 0.9.8.za, 1.0.0m et 1.0.1h d'OpenSSL corrigent la faille
 https://linuxfr.org/users/elyotna/journaux/openssl-une-
 nouvelle-faille-decouverte-permet-une-attaque-de-l-homme-du-milieu
 https://linuxfr.org/news/nouvelle-faille-importante-dans-gnutls
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Re: [IPTABLES] [HS] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?

2014-06-10 Thread Philippe Gras

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de dollars (327 milliards d'euros) par an à l'économie mondiale en  
termes de croissance, d'innovation et de compétitivité, selon un  
rapport publié lundi par le Center for Strategic and International  
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Re: raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread Grégoire COUTANT

Bonjour,

Le 10/06/2014 10:20, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Un rapide coup d'oeil sur un site de recherche montre que md127 est un
device créé par mdadm lorsqu'il rencontre une erreur.


Merci, ça m'a mis sur une piste.
Je n'avais aucun array dans mdadm.conf
J'ai donc ajouté :

Dans /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

# definitions of existing MD arrays
ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 metadata=1.2 num-devices=4 
UUID=e517bca1:bdbcd117:227ee769:eb9ab3b6 name=serre:0


Dans /etc/fstab :
/dev/md0/home ext4defaults0   2

Ensuite un cat /proc/mdstat :

Personalities : [raid10]
md0 : active raid10 sdc1[0] sdd1[2]
  1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [U_U_]
unused devices: none

J'ajoute donc les partitions qui ne sont pas dans le RAID, en espérant 
qu'elles vont tenir :


mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1

cela donne :
Personalities : [raid10]
md0 : active raid10 sda1[4] sdc1[0] sdd1[2]
  1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [U_U_]
  []  recovery =  3.9% (38652672/976630272) 
finish=140.9min speed=110928K/sec


Ca vous parait OK ?

Greg

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Re: raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread daniel huhardeaux

Le 10/06/2014 11:37, Grégoire COUTANT a écrit :

Bonjour,

Le 10/06/2014 10:20, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :

Un rapide coup d'oeil sur un site de recherche montre que md127 est un
device créé par mdadm lorsqu'il rencontre une erreur.


Merci, ça m'a mis sur une piste.
Je n'avais aucun array dans mdadm.conf
J'ai donc ajouté :

Dans /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf

# definitions of existing MD arrays
ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 metadata=1.2 num-devices=4 
UUID=e517bca1:bdbcd117:227ee769:eb9ab3b6 name=serre:0


[...]



Ne pas oubler de reconstruire l'initramfs si nécessaire

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RE: [IPTABLES] [HS] Comment lister les paquets rejetés ?

2014-06-10 Thread valentin OVD
Quelle belle source McAfee... No Comment

De plus, ils confondent hackeurs et pirates...

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Aperçu ce matin :
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rapport publié lundi par le Center for Strategic and International
Studies (CSIS).
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Re: disque malade et lvm en mode mirror

2014-06-10 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 04/06/14 à 08:49, Daniel Caillibaud m...@lairdutemps.org a écrit :
DC Bonjour,
DC 
DC J'ai probablement un disque bien malade, et je doute de la meilleure 
solution pour m'en
DC sortir sans trop de pertes.

[...]

DC J'ai des lv en mirror, montés dans des dossiers de /, et d'autres sans 
mirror qui doivent
DC donc être sur sdb (mais je laisse lvm faire sa cuisine).
DC 
DC Je suppose que la meilleure solution est de démonter toutes les partitions 
concernées 
DC (et les virer du fstab pour pouvoir rebooter), acheter un disque, l'ajouter 
dans le vg 
DC puis retirer le pv du disque malade, mais
DC - ça peut achever le disque malade, et je sais pas s'il y a une solution 
moins risquée.
DC - vaut-il mieux lancer fsck avant de toucher au lvm

Pour info si qqun tombe là dessus...

S'il n'y a que des lv miroir, le plus simple est de virer proprement le pv du 
disque malade,
ajouter le pv du nouveau disque, et attendre que lvm reconstruise son miroir 
tout seul (tout
reste utilisable pendant ce temps là).

Dans mon cas, je voulais aussi récupérer des datas sans miroir sur le pv malade 
et j'ai donc
tenté
- ajouter le nouveau disque au vg
- pvmove du pv du disque malade vers le nouveau pv
mais ça n'a pas marché et probablement achevé le disque.

Le pb est que je me suis retrouvé avec un vg tout cassé (il cherchait des uuid 
qui n'existaient
plus tellement le disque était HS), et impossible à modifier (probablement 
parce que
j'ai pas su lui virer ce qu'il trouvait pas). 
J'ai donc reinitialisé le disque neuf dans un nouveau vg et récupéré mes datas 
des lv en miroir
par recopie bête et méchante.

J'aurais aussi pu essayer de monter les volumes abimés à la place du pvmove et 
tenter de
récupérer des trucs dedans, mais quand j'ai testé ça c'était trop tard (ça 
montait mais
ensuite rien de lisible dedans).

Mais finalement je me sens plus léger avec cette purge de qq centaines de Go : 
c'était tout ce
que j'avais enregistré sur la freebox et pas eu le temps de regarder depuis 2 
ans (trop gros et
pas assez important pour être mirroré), donc ça devait pas être si important !

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Re: raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread Daniel Caillibaud
Le 10/06/14 à 11:37, Grégoire COUTANT gregoire.cout...@gmail.com a écrit :

GC Bonjour,
GC 
GC Le 10/06/2014 10:20, daniel huhardeaux a écrit :
GC  Un rapide coup d'oeil sur un site de recherche montre que md127 est un
GC  device créé par mdadm lorsqu'il rencontre une erreur.
GC 
GC Merci, ça m'a mis sur une piste.
GC Je n'avais aucun array dans mdadm.conf
GC J'ai donc ajouté :
GC 
GC Dans /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf
GC 
GC # definitions of existing MD arrays
GC ARRAY /dev/md0 level=raid10 metadata=1.2 num-devices=4 
GC UUID=e517bca1:bdbcd117:227ee769:eb9ab3b6 name=serre:0
GC 
GC Dans /etc/fstab :
GC /dev/md0/home ext4defaults0   2
GC 
GC Ensuite un cat /proc/mdstat :
GC 
GC Personalities : [raid10]
GC md0 : active raid10 sdc1[0] sdd1[2]
GC1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [U_U_]
GC unused devices: none
GC 
GC J'ajoute donc les partitions qui ne sont pas dans le RAID, en espérant 
GC qu'elles vont tenir :
GC 
GC mdadm --manage /dev/md0 --add /dev/sda1
GC 
GC cela donne :
GC Personalities : [raid10]
GC md0 : active raid10 sda1[4] sdc1[0] sdd1[2]
GC1953260544 blocks super 1.2 512K chunks 2 near-copies [4/2] [U_U_]
GC[]  recovery =  3.9% (38652672/976630272) 
GC finish=140.9min speed=110928K/sec
GC 
GC Ca vous parait OK ?

Ça parait bizarre du raid10 sur 3 disques (il en faut 4), mais j'ai jamais fait 
de raid10 et
pourrait pas vraiment t'aider.

Et c'est probablement mieux de le laisser finir sa reconstruction avant 
d'ajouter le 4e
disque.

(et pour lister tes partitions gpt, suis ses conseils, utilise parted -l à la 
place de fdisk
-l, ou gdisk si tu préfères).

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Re: raid10 changement de configuration ?

2014-06-10 Thread Grégoire COUTANT

Bonjour,

Le 10/06/2014 12:17, Daniel Caillibaud a écrit :

GC Ca vous parait OK ?
Ça parait bizarre du raid10 sur 3 disques (il en faut 4), mais j'ai jamais fait 
de raid10 et
pourrait pas vraiment t'aider.
Et c'est probablement mieux de le laisser finir sa reconstruction avant 
d'ajouter le 4e
disque.


Oui c'est ce que je fais, j'ai lu qu'il fallait à priori ajouter les 
disques un par un...

32% de sda, j'attend
J'ajouterai sde ensuite et après je rebooterai le serveur pour voir.


(et pour lister tes partitions gpt, suis ses conseils, utilise parted -l à la 
place de fdisk
-l, ou gdisk si tu préfères).


Oui ancien réflexe, tu as raison.

Merci

Greg

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Re: nouvelles failles openssl

2014-06-10 Thread maderios

On 06/10/2014 11:16 AM, VieuxGeek DuSystem wrote:

Bonjour

il faut (bizarrement) attendre...

Non rien de bizard
https://www.debian.org/devel/testing


Bonjour
L'histoire: apparaît une faille de sécurité importante sur Openssl.
1) Cette faille est tout de suite corrigée dans Sid/instable
avec Openssl 1.0.1h-1 puis 1.0.1h-2
2) cette faille n'est pas du tout corrigée dans Jessie/testing et 
j'installe donc les paquets Sid 1.0.1h-1 puis 1.0.1h-2 dans ma Jessie
3)  je ne vois pas ce qui peut empêcher les mainteneurs officiels Debian 
de faire la même chose que moi sinon l'application aveugle du principe
Un paquet (ou une version particulière) sera déplacé dans la 
distribution de test lorsqu'il satisfera les critères suivants :
Il doit avoir été dans la distribution instable pendant 10, 5 ou 2 
jours, en fonction de l'urgence de la mise en ligne 
4) On peut en déduire que les mainteneurs Debian d'Openssl considèrent 
qu'une faille de sécurité importante, d'ailleurs corrigée par toutes les 
distro,  n'est pas un problème urgent.


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Mise à jour non interactive...

2014-06-10 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Sur un serveur (hébergé chez OVH), j'ai programmé des mises à jour en
mode full automatique :

/usr/bin/apt-get update
export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive
/usr/bin/apt-get -y --force-yes --fix-missing dist-upgrade
/usr/bin/apt-get autoremove -y
export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=dialog [juste pour faire propre]
/usr/bin/apt-get autoclean

En général, cela fonctionne parfaitement.
Toutefois, j'ai récemment eu la désagréable surprise de voir ceci :

Paramétrage de ipmitool (1.8.14-1) ...
Configuration file '/etc/default/ipmievd'
 == File on system created by you or by a script.
 == File also in package provided by package maintainer.  
   Que voulez-vous faire ? Vos options sont les suivantes :
Y ou I  : installer la version du responsable du paquet
N ou O  : garder votre version actuellement installée
  D : afficher les différences entre les versions
  Z : suspendre ce processus pour examiner la situation
 L'action par défaut garde votre version actuelle.
*** ipmievd (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [défaut=N] ? dpkg: error processing package
ipmitool (--configure): EOF sur l'entrée standard à l'invite de
configuration
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 ipmitool
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Avez-vous une idée de la raison de ce comportement ?

Merci d'avance.

David.

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Re: nouvelles failles openssl

2014-06-10 Thread VieuxGeek DuSystem
4) On peut en déduire que les mainteneurs Debian d'Openssl considèrent
qu'une faille de sécurité importante, d'ailleurs corrigée par toutes les
distro,  n'est pas un problème urgent.

Si la version stable a été corrigé très rapidement, pour la version testing
je n'ai qu'un lien https://www.debian.org/devel/testing

Cordialement


Le 10 juin 2014 14:02, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On 06/10/2014 11:16 AM, VieuxGeek DuSystem wrote:

 Bonjour

 il faut (bizarrement) attendre...

 Non rien de bizard
 https://www.debian.org/devel/testing


 Bonjour
 L'histoire: apparaît une faille de sécurité importante sur Openssl.
 1) Cette faille est tout de suite corrigée dans Sid/instable
 avec Openssl 1.0.1h-1 puis 1.0.1h-2
 2) cette faille n'est pas du tout corrigée dans Jessie/testing et
 j'installe donc les paquets Sid 1.0.1h-1 puis 1.0.1h-2 dans ma Jessie
 3)  je ne vois pas ce qui peut empêcher les mainteneurs officiels Debian
 de faire la même chose que moi sinon l'application aveugle du principe
 Un paquet (ou une version particulière) sera déplacé dans la distribution
 de test lorsqu'il satisfera les critères suivants :
 Il doit avoir été dans la distribution instable pendant 10, 5 ou 2 jours,
 en fonction de l'urgence de la mise en ligne 
 4) On peut en déduire que les mainteneurs Debian d'Openssl considèrent
 qu'une faille de sécurité importante, d'ailleurs corrigée par toutes les
 distro,  n'est pas un problème urgent.


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Re: nouvelles failles openssl

2014-06-10 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:02:42PM +0200, maderios wrote:
 L'histoire: apparaît une faille de sécurité importante sur Openssl.
[...]
 4) On peut en déduire que les mainteneurs Debian d'Openssl
 considèrent qu'une faille de sécurité importante, d'ailleurs
 corrigée par toutes les distro,  n'est pas un problème urgent.

5) On peut en déduire que tu n'as rien retenu de la
discussion suite à la même remarque que tu as faites il y a
quelques semaines suite à Heartbleed.

Y.

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sylvieboye...@aol.com

2014-06-10 Thread Jean-marc Dufour

Et coucou,
j'ai commencé pour le site, et c'est visible en ligne par un de mes sites..
ne fais pas gaffe a la couleur, c'est la trame ( ding encore un jeu de 
mot...) que j'ai démarrée


http://www.filsetmetiers.le-clapotis.net

biises
jmarc

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Re: sylvieboye...@aol.com

2014-06-10 Thread Jean-marc Dufour

Le 10/06/2014 20:20, Jean-marc Dufour a écrit :

Et coucou,
j'ai commencé pour le site, et c'est visible en ligne par un de mes sites..
ne fais pas gaffe a la couleur, c'est la trame ( ding encore un jeu de
mot...) que j'ai démarrée

http://www.filsetmetiers.le-clapotis.net

biises
jmarc


Oups erreur d'aiguillage,
désolé
jmarc

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Comment répartir équitablement la bande passante vers Internet

2014-06-10 Thread Olivier
Bonjour,

J'ai une machine sous Wheezy qui route vers Internet le trafic d'une
centaine d'utilisateurs (qui accèdent au réseau en WiFi).

Avez-vous quelques pointeurs documentaires pour savoir comment répartir
équitablement la bande passante entre tous les utilisateurs ?

J'imagine les hypothèses suivantes:
- 1 adresse MAC = 1 utilisateur (si un petit malin s'équipe avec 3
interfaces, il aura 3 fois plus de bande passante que les autres)

- l'accès à Internet s'opère via des liens ADSL : j'imagine ne contrôler
que le trafic sortant (du LAN vers Internet) à moins qu'il ne soit pas trop
compliqué/coûteux/fragile de contôler aussi le trafic entrant.

Slts


Re: [Wheezy] installation sur un Acer Aspire One A0751h

2014-06-10 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER
Le Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:20:55 +0200
François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr a écrit:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Le 08/06/2014 01:51, Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  
  J'essaie d'installer une Debian Wheezy sur un Acer Aspire One
  A0751h. L'installation se passe bien mais au démarrage j'ai un
  problème (qui ne m'étonne pas spécialement) avec la partie vidéo.
  Au début ça s'affiche correctement mais au bout de quelques
  secondes l'affichage part en cacahuète. Je voudrais donc booter en
  console pure. J'ai essayé le mode de dépannage mais il effectue
  aussi un changement de mode graphique qui amène au même problème
  qu'en mode normal. J'aimerai donc booter en restant en mode vga de
  base mais je ne sais pas ce qu'il faut mettre dans grub pour éviter
  le switch de mode graphique ?
 
 Quand l'écran GRUB s'affiche choisir l'OS qu'on veut booter, appuyer
 sur la touche e (édition) et ajouter à la fin de la ligne: text
 
 Après il suffit de booter en tapant Entrée (je crois; c'est écrit sur
 l'aide grub qui s'affiche quand on a pressé e)
 
 Evidemment ceci n'est pas pérenne mais permet de ne pas lancer X pour
 une session.
 

Je clos le sujet n'ayant plus la machine sous la main. Finalement j'ai mis Win
7 starter.

Gaëtan

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restauration vieille debian

2014-06-10 Thread Guillaume Membré
Bonjour,

cela fait de plusieurs années (6 ans) que je tourne avec un systeme multi
seat sans problème : nvidia Geforce 7600 GT, Ati 9200 et Ati 700. J'ai
suivi pendant un temps les mises à jours et je n'avais pas fait de dist
upgrade depuis 1 an environ.
J'ai donc fait un dist upgrade il y a quelques semaines et tout est cassé :
les drivers ati (radeon du noyau 3.14) et nvidia (version 304.121) ne
semblent plus cohabiter et malgré mes très nombreuses recherches, je crois
que je suis dans une impasse à moins de changer de materiel :'(

Mon adage préféré avait encore raison : lorsque ca marche, tu n'y touches
pas ;)

Parmis mes scripts, je garde chaque mois un listing complet (dpkg -l) de
tous les paquets installés.
Ma question est la suivante : comment reinstaller à l'identique les
versions des paquets que j'avais il y a plus de 6 mois et qui n'existent
plus dans les repos actuels car trop récent ?
Je sais qu'il existe snapshot.debian.org, la recherche manuelle de tous les
paquets va me prendre très longtps.
Existe t il des scripts ou programme qui permettent d'en extraire les
paquets voulu ?
Mettons que j'y arrive en écrivant un script perl, une fois tous les
paquets récupérés, comment les reinstaller ? dpkg *.deb sur 3000 deb risque
d'exploser, comment les indexers proprement ?

Merci d'avance pour vos réponses ou suggestions
Guillaume


Re: OT Accesibilidad en Xfce

2014-06-10 Thread David

 
Hola Listeros:
Con “key-mon” he obtenido los iconos del
estado de accesibilidad del ratón y del teclado en el escritorio
Xfce, muchas gracias ya que no conocía esta orden “key-mon”, me
resulta muy útil para mi discapacidad.

Un saludo
David



El Lunes 9 de junio de 2014 16:06, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 


El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:18:49 +0100, David escribió:

 Hola Listeros:
 Tengo una discapacidad que me dificulta el uso
 del ratón, para solventar este problema activo las opciones de
 'Accesibilidad' del teclado y muevo el ratón a través del teclado
 numérico, en XP al activar estas opción te muestra en la barra de
 tareas un icono de accesibilidad que te indica si cuando haga click
 se hace sobre el botón derecho o izquierdo del ratón. En Xfce4 he
 activado estas opciones pero no me muestra ningún icono que me
 indique nada referente  a la accesibilidad.
 
 He mirado www.xfce-look.org y no veo nada de esto, en los iconos que se
 pueden añadir al panel no hay ninguno con esta funcionalidad. 
 
 Quisiera me indicaseis como obtener un icono que me indique la 
 accesibilidad del sistema en Xfce4.

Las opciones de accesibilidad en XFCE vendrán determinadas por los 
componentes de GNOME (ORCA), lo que ya no sé es hasta qué punto están 
integradas esas herramientas en XFCE peor no esperes gran cosa (GNOME es 
el entorno más avanzado en Linux para las herramientas de accesibilidad).

En cuanto a la función que buscas (y más allá del icono en la barra de 
tareas que no creo que te sirva de mucho) podrías activarla directamente 
desde Xorg con Alt+Shift+BloqNum!.

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PacketTracer 6.0.1 Debian amd64

2014-06-10 Thread Ricardo Zúñiga
Estimados

Estoy instalando el PacketTracer Version 6.0.1, eh leído en varias paginas
de Internet y el método de instalación es el siguiente:

1- Bajar el archivo *.bin
2- Darle perimos de ejecuccion: chmod +x *.bin
3- Ejecutar el *.bin  ./*.bin

Hasta acá todo bien ya que finaliza la instalación con éxito (ya que
previamente había instalado las dependencias de la arquitectura i386).

El problema:

Al ejecutarlo desde la consola

root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6#

Supuesta mente se abre Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1, pero en realidad no
pasa nada.

Espero poder recibir algún tipo de orientación ya que lo necesito para la
Universidad, quedo atento a cualquier comentario.

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[OT] Consulta sobre empresas de recuperación de datos.

2014-06-10 Thread eterdep .
Tengo en mis manos un usb que no se puede montar.

Conecto el dispositvo:

Salida de comando lsusb

  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
  Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
  Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
  Bus 002 Device 003: ID 04b3:3025 IBM Corp. NetVista Full Width Keyboard
  Bus 002 Device 004: ID 04b3:310d IBM Corp.
  Bus 002 Device 013: ID 048d:1169 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.


El equipo reconoce el usb:
  Bus 002 Device 013: ID 048d:1169 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.

Si ejecuto fdisk -l :
Me reconoce el disco duro /dev/sda, pero no reconoce el usb como
dispositivo de datos.

Salida /var/log/syslog

[12896.170788] usb 2-1.8: new high-speed USB device number 16 using ehci_hcd

[12896.262727] usb 2-1.8: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, idProduct=1169
[12896.262732] usb 2-1.8: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0,
SerialNumber=0
[12896.263250] scsi16 : usb-storage 2-1.8:1.0
[12897.260140] scsi 16:0:0:0: Direct-Access 
U1169CONTROLLER  0.00 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
[12897.261138] sd 16:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[12897.262877] sd 16:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk


Si intento montar /dev/sdb me da error al no reconocer el usb como
un volumen de datos.


Ante estas circunstancias, sólo me queda pensar que es un problema
físico, no sé si será de la controladora o del chip de memoria.

¿Merece la pena usar los servicios de una empresa de recuperación de
datos? ¿Son tan efectivos como se anuncian?
¿Alguna sugerencia de empresa seria que trabaje en España?

Muchas gracias


P.D. Mis disculpas si el correo aparece en html.


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OT: Re: Portatil con solo Linux

2014-06-10 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El lun, 09-06-2014 a las 17:19 +0200, Eduardo Rios escribió: 
 On 09/06/14 15:45, Camaleón wrote:
  El Fri, 06 Jun 2014 20:26:36 +0200, Altair Linux escribió:
 
  La información incluso en tienda es casi nula, sólo dan soporte para
  Windows, y cuando preguntas por portátiles con Linux o sin sistema
  operativo te dicen que no tienen. Vamos, que Windows 8 te lo comes.
 
  No es mal aperitivo. Tener una licencia de Windows (eso sí, mejor si es
  Windows 7) cerca nunca viene mal, nunca sabes si/cuando la necesitarás
  (aunque sea OEM).
 
 Nada, eso es de mariquitas. O usas Linux o Windows, pero los dos, de 
 mariquitas... :-P ;) :)
 
uy, que quedará para mi entonces, que uso linux, windows, freebsd y
openindiana (si entendí bien, un fork de opensolaris (como un solaris))

=P 
 
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Re: PacketTracer 6.0.1 Debian amd64

2014-06-10 Thread Gonzalo Rivero
El mar, 10-06-2014 a las 03:50 -0400, Ricardo Zúñiga escribió: 
 Estimados
 
 
 Estoy instalando el PacketTracer Version 6.0.1, eh leído en varias
 paginas de Internet y el método de instalación es el siguiente:
 
 
 1- Bajar el archivo *.bin
 2- Darle perimos de ejecuccion: chmod +x *.bin
 3- Ejecutar el *.bin  ./*.bin
 
 
 Hasta acá todo bien ya que finaliza la instalación con éxito (ya que
 previamente había instalado las dependencias de la arquitectura i386).
 
yo me bajé desde el sitio de netacad(el año pasado, eso si), la misma
versión y lo que tengo es un tar.gz con un instalador que te hace
aceptar la licencia, pregunta donde instalar (/opt/pt por defecto) y si
hace un symlink para packettracer en /usr/bin.
 
Después lo arranqué y no tuve dramas... de hecho tu mensaje me hizo
acordar que lo necesitaba instalado también en mi computadora del
trabajo jejejeje

Lo que podés hacer es activar la depuración, editá el archivo de
packettracer, donde quiera que lo tengas
y buscá la línea:
./PacketTracer6 $@  /dev/null 21
y cambiala por 
./PacketTracer6 $@ 

así va a escribir por pantalla lo que está intentando y que no funcione 
 El problema:
 
 
 Al ejecutarlo desde la consola 
 
 
 root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
 Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
 root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6#
 
 
 Supuesta mente se abre Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1, pero en
 realidad no pasa nada.
 
 
 Espero poder recibir algún tipo de orientación ya que lo necesito para
 la Universidad, quedo atento a cualquier comentario.
 
 
 Saludos 
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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:12:01 +0200, jors escribió:

 On 9 de junio de 2014 15:52:39 CEST, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 wrote:

(...)

 En cuanto a poder usarlo con openVZ, no tienes más que consultar en
 enlace que puse más arriba para ver si el chipset admite extensiones
 de virtaulización.
 
 Supongo que aunque estéis hablando de openvz en realidad queréis
 decir proxmox, porque sino no veo qué relación puede tener con las
 extensiones de virtualización por hardware.

 Querrás decir KVM, el resto no son más que visores ;-)
 
 Qué va, quise decir Proxmox porque éste contempla KVM. Reconoce el
 despiste, va, que no es para tanto :P

La base de Proxmox es KVM y es KVM el que necesita un micro con soporte 
de virtualización salvo que me haya perdido algo.

 Eso sí, decir que openvz es un visor... ya no se si es despiste xD

Un gestor si te gusta más el término, en este caso manda el kernel.

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Re: Problemas con initscripts en Debian Sid

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:43:19 -0700, estebanmonge escribió:

 Tengo problemas con initscripts me da este error:
 
 Configurando initscripts (2.88dsf-53.2) ...
 insserv: Loop detected during expanding system facilities in the
 insserv.conf file(s): +umountfs +mountoverflowtmp update-rc.d: error:
 insserv rejected the script header dpkg: error processing package
 initscripts (--configure):
  el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código
  de
 salida de error 1 Se encontraron errores al procesar:
  initscripts
 
 No he podido resolver el problema y no puedo instalar mas paquetes,
 queria instalar bugreport y no me dejo, ahora estoy usando systemd en
 lugar de sysv.
 
 ¿Alguna pista?

Echa un vistazo a este hilo del foro de Debian, hablan de un error muy 
similar aunque en este caso con systemd:

[solved] insserv loop detected
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5t=111573

Quizá algún script de inicio tiene problemas con la cabeceras LSB.

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Re: PacketTracer 6.0.1 Debian amd64

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:50:08 -0400, Ricardo Zúñiga escribió:

 Estimados

Ese html...

 Estoy instalando el PacketTracer Version 6.0.1, eh leído en varias
 paginas de Internet y el método de instalación es el siguiente:
 
 1- Bajar el archivo *.bin 
 2- Darle perimos de ejecuccion: chmod +x *.bin
 3- Ejecutar el *.bin  ./*.bin
 
 Hasta acá todo bien ya que finaliza la instalación con éxito (ya que
 previamente había instalado las dependencias de la arquitectura i386).
 
 El problema:
 
 Al ejecutarlo desde la consola
 
 root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer 
 Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1 
 root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6#
 
 Supuesta mente se abre Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1, pero en realidad
 no pasa nada.

(...)

Por aquí dicen lo mismo:

Packet Tracer does not run
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10t=109076

En la wiki de Archlinux tienes más datos, mira a ver si encuentras algo 
que te sirva:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PacketTracer

Y por último, comprueba que tu sistema reúne todos los requisitos para la 
ejecución de la aplicación.

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Re: Aunar logs de jails (chroot) [solucionado]

2014-06-10 Thread F. J. Blanco
2014-06-09 20:05 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:37:22 +0200, F. J. Blanco escribió:

 ¿No te aparece ningún error en el registro de rsyslog? Conviene que
 vayas descartando cosas, por ejemplo, que estés usando una sintaxis
 incorrecta.

 Ningún registro de error por ninguna parte, por lo que me quedo sin
 hilo del que tirar.

 (...)

 Pues revisa la versión de rsyslog que tienes instalada porque en teoría
 es posible hacer lo que buscas. Por aquí también lo comentan:

 No jail hostname in logs
 http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/rsyslog/users/11588

 Es un foro de FreeBSD pero en linux no debe de haber mucha diferencia tan
 sólo asegúrate de que la versión de rsyslog que tienes y la sintaxis que
 usas son compatibles y permiten el uso del módulo y las variables que has
 definido en el archivo de configuración.

   Parece que, finalmente, di con la solución.

   Y mira por dónde, al final el problema no estaba en la
configuración del rsyslog, si no en el montaje del jail.

   Paso a explicarlo para que al próximo que le suceda, se ahorre los
mismos dolores de cabeza por los que he pasado yo:

   - Vincular el '/dev' del jail con el '/dev' del main host (bind),
no es compatible con el rsyslog.

   Si vinculas el '/dev' (ojo, no hablo del '/dev/pts', que sí
funciona y es necesario, sólo del '/dev'), todos los sucesos ocurridos
tanto en el main como en el jail son recogidos automáticamente por el
rsyslog sin tener que tocar nada en la configuración (como añadir
sockets). El problema es que no identifica de dónde proviene cada uno,
interpreta que todos son del main (echa mano del contenido de la
variable %HOSTNAME%).

   Si queremos que los identifique, es necesario desvincular ambos
'/dev' y crear un socket con nombre propio en el jail para que rsyslog
acuda a '/dev/log' y recoja allí los eventos propios del jail,
distintos de los del sistema.

   El proceso a seguir si quieres que el rsyslog recoja todos los
registros, pero identificando su origen (de manera simple, sin entrar
en mil detalles), sería el siguiente:

   - Activas estos puntos de montaje en el /etc/fstab para tu jail

/proc   /jail/prx/proc  procbind0   0
/sys/jail/prx/sys   sysfs   bind0   0
#/dev   /jail/prx/dev   udevbind0   0   # Éste era el
causante del problema, lo comentamos
/devpts /jail/prx/dev/pts   devpts  defaults0   0

   - En /etc/rsyslog.conf compruebas que el módulo imuxsock esté
activo (no esté comentado)

$ModLoad imuxsock

   - Creas un anexo a la configuración del rsyslog (ej.
/etc/rsyslog.d/prx.conf) donde añades el socket y le adjudicas el
nombre con el que quieres que aparezcan los registros del jail
(IMPORTANTE: primero nombre y luego socket)

$InputUnixListenSocketHostName prx
$AddUnixListenSocket /jail/prx/dev/log

   - Hecho esto, haces un restart del rsyslog y... ¡funcionando!

   Gracias Camaleón por las ideas y animarme a no arrojar la toalla.

   Saludos.


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Re: [OT] Consulta sobre empresas de recuperación de datos.

2014-06-10 Thread eterdep .
 Es un disco duro externo de esos con carcasa ?
 has probado quitarlo de la carcasa y conectarlo directamente al PC (Si
 es un disco SATA).
 Muchas veces el problema es por la circuiteria del Disco.

 A ver si hay suerte.

No, se trata de un pendrive.

Muchas gracias por tu tiempo Juan.


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Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido modificados en 
mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta 
determinada?


Perdonen mi ignorancia.

Gracias

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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

2014-06-10 Thread ciracusa

On 05/06/14 13:44, Camaleón wrote:

El Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:41:16 -0300, ciracusa escribió:

   

On 04/06/14 11:06, Camaleón wrote:
 

(...)

   

Tendrías que buscar un chipset que admita vT y con un adaptador de red
soportado por el kernel que en el caso de intel son la mayoría
(e1000e):

http://ark.intel.com/search/advanced?VTX=trueMarketSegment=DT

Una ves que tengas localizado el chipset podrás afinar mejor el modelo
de placa Gigabyte.

   

Camaleón agrego algo mas.

Puntualmente me interesa este mother:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4389#sp

Porque tiene un slot PCI y su chipset es Intel B75.

Digamos la idea es saber si la interface de red on board del mother será
soportada por Debian 6.

Me podrías explicar como buscarlo así lo puedo verificar.
 

Puedes ir a la sección de descargas de la placa, y buscar eld river de la
tarjeta de red para windows. Verás que el .exe disponible se llama
motherboard_driver_lan_realtek_8111.exe por lo que el chipset debe ser
el RTL8168/8111 (puedes confirmarlo preguntando directamente a la
empresa, así sales de dudas).

Luego sólo tienes que buscar por el soporte de ese chipset en Google para
ver qué soporte tiene en Debian aunque ya te digo que con Squeeze lo vas
a pasar mal porque es un poco antiguo para los cánones kernelianos
actuales :-(

Saludos,

   

Muchas Gracias Camaleón por tus conceptos!

Saludos.


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Re: [OT] Consulta sobre empresas de recuperación de datos.

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 13:43:01 +0200, eterdep . escribió:

 Tengo en mis manos un usb que no se puede montar.

¿Probaste a montarla con Windows u otro sistema operativo?

 Conecto el dispositvo:
 
 Salida de comando lsusb

(...)

 El equipo reconoce el usb:
   Bus 002 Device 013: ID 048d:1169 Integrated Technology Express, Inc.
 
 Si ejecuto fdisk -l :
 Me reconoce el disco duro /dev/sda, pero no reconoce el usb como
 dispositivo de datos.

Okay.

 [12896.170788] usb 2-1.8: new high-speed USB device number 16 using
 ehci_hcd
 
 [12896.262727] usb 2-1.8: New USB device found, idVendor=048d, idProduct=1169 
 [12896.262732] usb 2-1.8: New USB device strings: Mfr=0, Product=0, 
 SerialNumber=0 
 [12896.263250] scsi16 : usb-storage 2-1.8:1.0
 [12897.260140] scsi 16:0:0:0: Direct-Access  U1169CONTROLLER 0.00 
 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 
 [12897.261138] sd 16:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 
 [12897.262877] sd 16:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk

El kernel reconoce el dispositivo pero no detecta ninguna partición.

 Si intento montar /dev/sdb me da error al no reconocer el usb como un
 volumen de datos.

No hay particiones que montar, tendría que ser /dev/sdb1 ya que sdb es la 
unidad. 
 
 Ante estas circunstancias, sólo me queda pensar que es un problema
 físico, no sé si será de la controladora o del chip de memoria.

¿Qué te dice fdisk -l /dev/sdb? Podría tener la tabla de particiones 
dañada.
 
 ¿Merece la pena usar los servicios de una empresa de recuperación de
 datos? ¿Son tan efectivos como se anuncian?
 ¿Alguna sugerencia de empresa seria que trabaje en España?
 
 Muchas gracias

Hombre, yo intentaría antes con cualquier utilidad de recuperación que hay
para windows y que suelen proporcionar los propios fabricantes de las llaves 
USB o si se trata de un disco duro convencional pues tirar de testdisk salvo
que realmente llegues a la conclusión de que se trata de un fallo mecánico y
que quieres recuperar los datos en cuyo caso sí que me pondría en contacto
con empresas en España (RecoveryLabs, OnData, etc...) para que te pasen un
presupuesto.

 P.D. Mis disculpas si el correo aparece en html.

Va en formato texto :-)

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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:30:01 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido modificados en 
 mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta 
 determinada?

Con find:

Linux: Find Files By Date
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-unix-osxfind-files-by-date/

(man find)

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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread JulHer



El 10/06/14 15:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido modificados
en mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta
determinada?


Pues una forma sería con el comando find y el parámetro -newer 
escogiendo las fechas de inicio y final.


Perdonen mi ignorancia.


No hay nada que perdonar, además tiene fácil arreglo:

$ man find

Un saludo

JulHer


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Re: Aunar logs de jails (chroot) [solucionado]

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:50:08 +0200, F. J. Blanco escribió:

 2014-06-09 20:05 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:
 El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:37:22 +0200, F. J. Blanco escribió:

 ¿No te aparece ningún error en el registro de rsyslog? Conviene que
 vayas descartando cosas, por ejemplo, que estés usando una sintaxis
 incorrecta.

 Ningún registro de error por ninguna parte, por lo que me quedo sin
 hilo del que tirar.

 (...)

 Pues revisa la versión de rsyslog que tienes instalada porque en teoría
 es posible hacer lo que buscas. Por aquí también lo comentan:

(...)

Parece que, finalmente, di con la solución.
 
Y mira por dónde, al final el problema no estaba en la
 configuración del rsyslog, si no en el montaje del jail.
 
Paso a explicarlo para que al próximo que le suceda, se ahorre los
 mismos dolores de cabeza por los que he pasado yo:
 
- Vincular el '/dev' del jail con el '/dev' del main host (bind),
 no es compatible con el rsyslog.
 
Si vinculas el '/dev' (ojo, no hablo del '/dev/pts', que sí
 funciona y es necesario, sólo del '/dev'), todos los sucesos ocurridos
 tanto en el main como en el jail son recogidos automáticamente por el
 rsyslog sin tener que tocar nada en la configuración (como añadir
 sockets). El problema es que no identifica de dónde proviene cada uno,
 interpreta que todos son del main (echa mano del contenido de la
 variable %HOSTNAME%).

Eso es interesante. 

Tiene que haber alguna forma de configurar el entorno enjaulado para que 
se identifique con un nombre de equipo distinto del anfitrión (p. ej., un 
servidor de correo ejecutándose en la partición enjaulada interesaría que 
pudiera tener un nombre distinto para poder usar un segundo nombre de 
dominio).
 
Si queremos que los identifique, es necesario desvincular ambos
 '/dev' y crear un socket con nombre propio en el jail para que rsyslog
 acuda a '/dev/log' y recoja allí los eventos propios del jail,
 distintos de los del sistema.
 
El proceso a seguir si quieres que el rsyslog recoja todos los
 registros, pero identificando su origen (de manera simple, sin entrar
 en mil detalles), sería el siguiente:

(...)

- Hecho esto, haces un restart del rsyslog y... ¡funcionando!

¡Olé! :-)

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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia


- Original Message - 
From: JulHer jul...@escomposlinux.org

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas





El 10/06/14 15:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido modificados
en mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta
determinada?


Pues una forma sería con el comando find y el parámetro -newer escogiendo 
las fechas de inicio y final.


Perdonen mi ignorancia.


No hay nada que perdonar, además tiene fácil arreglo:

$ man find

Un saludo

JulHer




Pues si hay que perdonar, ya que antes de preguntar ya había pedido esa 
ayuda, ósea man find y no entendí nada


root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 64
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 24
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 12
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 140
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 260
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 3600
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 36000

Se burlo de mi ya que no devolvío adsolutamente nada.

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Re: gnome3 en DELL inspiron 15R 5537

2014-06-10 Thread Pablo Magé
Hola lista
El problema que tenia ya se solucionó. Dejo aqui la solución ...

El día 5 de junio de 2014, 9:20, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El día 2 de junio de 2014, 19:49, Pablo Magé pma...@gmail.com escribió:

 (reenvío a la lista, lo he rescatado de mi filtro...)

 El 25 de mayo de 2014, 10:39, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Sun, 25 May 2014 06:01:22 -0500, Pablo Magé escribió:

 Pablo, acuérdate de desactivar el formato html al enviar mensajes a la
 lista.

  Hola lista En un equipo DELL Inspiron 15R 5537, que viene con Windows 8
  preinstalado le instale Debian 7.4.
  Tengo el siguiente problema, cuando booteo por Debian se inicia el
  proceso de carga y cuando llega a la parte de carga de gnome3, se queda
  la pantalla negra con el cursor en la esquina superior izquierda.
 
  La salida del lspci | grep VGA es:
  VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics 
  Controller(rev 09)

 Mejor si mandas la salida de lspci | grep -i vga.


 La salida de  lspci | grep -i vga es la siguiente:
 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT
 Integrated Graphics Controller(rev 09)

 Vale :-)

 Eso quiere decir que se trata de un adaptador intel puro, sin
 hibrideces por lo que de estar soportado por el driver (intel) no
 deberías tener problemas. Quizá sea un chipset demasiado nuevo para la
 versión del kernel que tienes, podrías probar a instalar en paralelo
 el kernel de los backports y (sólo en el caso de que sea necesario)
 una versión superior del servidor X.


Para usar el kernel del  backports realice los siguientes pasos
1. adicionar en el sources.list la línea:

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main non-free contrib

2. actualizar la lista de paquetes
apt-get update

3. instalar la imagen

sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64

4. reiniciar

Tomado de:
https://scottlinux.com/2013/11/23/how-to-install-newer-kernel-from-debian-wheezy-backports/

Gracias lista por la colaboración. :o)

 Quizá tengas una gráfica híbrida por lo que es posible que tengas que
 desactivar una de ellas (¿la intel?) y trabajar con la otra instalando el
 driver correspondiente.

 De acuerdo a la salida del lspci este equipo solo cuenta con la
 tarjeta gráfica interna. :o(

 Entendido.

 También te puede servir este hilo de un foro de Ubuntu donde comentan
 problemas con una gráfica que monta ese chipset:

 14.04 LTS issues with Intel HD 4400 Haswell
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=388

  Esta parte aún no la termino de revisar...

Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR hay...@inor.sld.cu a través de 
lists.debian.org :
  no se si instalando intel microcode se resuelva o algun firmware de intel
bootea, entra en modo single o modo texto
en la consola pon aptitude search firmware | grep intel
a ver que sale

 No obtengo ninguna información de este comando, pues todavía no
 configuro la red :o(

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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:28:03 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 El 10/06/14 15:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:
 Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido
 modificados en mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de
 una carpeta determinada?

 Pues una forma sería con el comando find y el parámetro -newer
 escogiendo las fechas de inicio y final.

 Perdonen mi ignorancia.

 No hay nada que perdonar, además tiene fácil arreglo:

 $ man find

 Un saludo

 JulHer


 
 Pues si hay que perdonar, ya que antes de preguntar ya había pedido esa
 ayuda, ósea man find y no entendí nada
 
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 64
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 24
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 12
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 140
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 260
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 3600
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
 root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 36000
 
 Se burlo de mi ya que no devolvío adsolutamente nada.

Estás en el futuro.

find /mnt/datos -type f -ctime -40

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Re: Aunar logs de jails (chroot) [solucionado]

2014-06-10 Thread F. J. Blanco
2014-06-10 17:28 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

- Vincular el '/dev' del jail con el '/dev' del main host (bind),
 no es compatible con el rsyslog.

Si vinculas el '/dev' (ojo, no hablo del '/dev/pts', que sí
 funciona y es necesario, sólo del '/dev'), todos los sucesos ocurridos
 tanto en el main como en el jail son recogidos automáticamente por el
 rsyslog sin tener que tocar nada en la configuración (como añadir
 sockets). El problema es que no identifica de dónde proviene cada uno,
 interpreta que todos son del main (echa mano del contenido de la
 variable %HOSTNAME%).

 Eso es interesante.

 Tiene que haber alguna forma de configurar el entorno enjaulado para que
 se identifique con un nombre de equipo distinto del anfitrión (p. ej., un
 servidor de correo ejecutándose en la partición enjaulada interesaría que
 pudiera tener un nombre distinto para poder usar un segundo nombre de
 dominio).

   Extraído de:
Installing new Debian systems with debootstrap -
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/426/Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap/print

.. Here you can see that you have a minimal system which occupies
just over 100Mb of space. Notice that your prompt still contains the
name of your 'real' system? Don't be tempted to change that - since
the hostname change will take effect on your host system too.

   Pues va a ser que no la hay :)

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Re: Aunar logs de jails (chroot) [solucionado]

2014-06-10 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 18:07:00 +0200, F. J. Blanco escribió:

 2014-06-10 17:28 GMT+02:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com:

(...)

Si vinculas el '/dev' (ojo, no hablo del '/dev/pts', que sí
 funciona y es necesario, sólo del '/dev'), todos los sucesos ocurridos
 tanto en el main como en el jail son recogidos automáticamente por el
 rsyslog sin tener que tocar nada en la configuración (como añadir
 sockets). El problema es que no identifica de dónde proviene cada uno,
 interpreta que todos son del main (echa mano del contenido de la
 variable %HOSTNAME%).

 Eso es interesante.

 Tiene que haber alguna forma de configurar el entorno enjaulado para
 que se identifique con un nombre de equipo distinto del anfitrión (p.
 ej., un servidor de correo ejecutándose en la partición enjaulada
 interesaría que pudiera tener un nombre distinto para poder usar un
 segundo nombre de dominio).
 
Extraído de:
 Installing new Debian systems with debootstrap -
 http://www.debian-administration.org/article/426/
Installing_new_Debian_systems_with_debootstrap/print
 
 .. Here you can see that you have a minimal system which occupies just
 over 100Mb of space. Notice that your prompt still contains the name of
 your 'real' system? Don't be tempted to change that - since the hostname
 change will take effect on your host system too.
 
Pues va a ser que no la hay :)

Vaya... ¿y cómo es posible que el cambio del nombre de equipo del sistema 
enjaulado afecte al anfitrión? Eso es muy peligroso ¿no? :-?

Pensaba que se una instalación con debootstrap y enjaulada estaba aislada 
(como si fuera un mini contenedor) pero ya veo que no.

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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread JulHer



El 10/06/14 17:28, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:


- Original Message - From: JulHer jul...@escomposlinux.org
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas





El 10/06/14 15:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido modificados
en mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta
determinada?


Pues una forma sería con el comando find y el parámetro -newer
escogiendo las fechas de inicio y final.


Perdonen mi ignorancia.


No hay nada que perdonar, además tiene fácil arreglo:

$ man find

Un saludo

JulHer




Pues si hay que perdonar, ya que antes de preguntar ya había pedido esa
ayuda, ósea man find y no entendí nada

root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 64
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 24
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 12
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 140
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 260
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 3600
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 36000

Se burlo de mi ya que no devolvío adsolutamente nada.



¿¿???

Yo te sugerí que utilizaras el parámetro -newer, en vez del -ctime.
Por otro lado estás usando mal del ctime, si queres ver el pasado 
deberías usar -ctime -


Un saludo

JulHer




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Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas

2014-06-10 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia


- Original Message - 
From: JulHer jul...@escomposlinux.org

To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas





El 10/06/14 17:28, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:


- Original Message - From: JulHer jul...@escomposlinux.org
To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 10:29 AM
Subject: Re: Listar archivos de subcarpetas en un rango de fechas





El 10/06/14 15:30, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:
Como podría litar en consola todos los archivos que han sido 
modificados

en mayo o junio de este año en todas las subcarpetas de una carpeta
determinada?


Pues una forma sería con el comando find y el parámetro -newer
escogiendo las fechas de inicio y final.


Perdonen mi ignorancia.


No hay nada que perdonar, además tiene fácil arreglo:

$ man find

Un saludo

JulHer




Pues si hay que perdonar, ya que antes de preguntar ya había pedido esa
ayuda, ósea man find y no entendí nada

root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 64
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 24
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 12
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 140
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 260
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 3600
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 360
root@clt_iyc_03:/mnt/datos# find /mnt/datos -ctime 36000

Se burlo de mi ya que no devolvío adsolutamente nada.



¿¿???

Yo te sugerí que utilizaras el parámetro -newer, en vez del -ctime.
Por otro lado estás usando mal del ctime, si queres ver el pasado deberías 
usar -ctime -


Un saludo

JulHer





Muchas gracias a ti a Camaleon, era que me faltaba el -, pero si entiende 
que si estoy buscando ficheros modificados, tiene que ser en pasado. Porque 
yo nunca he visto ficheros modificados en el futuro sin usar la maquina del 
tiempo.


Saludos

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Re: Mother Gigabyte con soporte para Intel VT y Debian 7

2014-06-10 Thread jors

On 10/06/14 15:18, Camaleón wrote:

El Mon, 09 Jun 2014 20:12:01 +0200, jors escribió:


On 9 de junio de 2014 15:52:39 CEST, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
wrote:


(...)


En cuanto a poder usarlo con openVZ, no tienes más que consultar en
enlace que puse más arriba para ver si el chipset admite extensiones
de virtaulización.


Supongo que aunque estéis hablando de openvz en realidad queréis
decir proxmox, porque sino no veo qué relación puede tener con las
extensiones de virtualización por hardware.


Querrás decir KVM, el resto no son más que visores ;-)


Qué va, quise decir Proxmox porque éste contempla KVM. Reconoce el
despiste, va, que no es para tanto :P


La base de Proxmox es KVM y es KVM el que necesita un micro con soporte
de virtualización salvo que me haya perdido algo.


A parte que no sé qué quieres decir con eso de la base de Proxmox es 
KVM, tú hablabas de OpenVZ (y no de Proxmox) y lo mezclaste con las 
extensiones de virtualización por hardware, que no se qué tiene que ver. 
Hay que ver cómo a veces te gusta dar la vuelta a las cosas :P



Eso sí, decir que openvz es un visor... ya no se si es despiste xD


Un gestor si te gusta más el término, en este caso manda el kernel.


Hombre, pues me gusta más como lo definen en la página oficial[0]: 
virtualización basada en contenedores.


Sólo para llamar las cosas por su nombre y no liar al personal, todo de 
buen rollo y karma.


[0] http://openvz.org/Main_Page

Salut,
jors


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Re: PacketTracer 6.0.1 Debian amd64

2014-06-10 Thread Ricardo Zúñiga
Siguiendo con el tema

Ingrese a /usr/local/PacketTracer que es donde quedó ibstalado packettracer
6.0.1
Edite el archivo ejecutable packettracer como me sugirieron

$@  /dev/null 21 á  $@

Lo cual me arrojo el siguiente error:

x@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
`GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./PacketTracer6)
./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
`GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
/usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQt3Support.so.4)
./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
`GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
/usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtGui.so.4)
./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
`GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
/usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4)
./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
`GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
/usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtCore.so.4)

lo cual busque la libreria libc.so.6 y la instale en
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/

ejecute otra vez packettracer

x@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
./PacketTracer6: error while loading shared libraries:
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header

Intentare instalar libc de debian testing (aunque no me gusta mezclar).


El 10 de junio de 2014, 9:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:50:08 -0400, Ricardo Zúñiga escribió:

  Estimados

 Ese html...

  Estoy instalando el PacketTracer Version 6.0.1, eh leído en varias
  paginas de Internet y el método de instalación es el siguiente:
 
  1- Bajar el archivo *.bin
  2- Darle perimos de ejecuccion: chmod +x *.bin
  3- Ejecutar el *.bin  ./*.bin
 
  Hasta acá todo bien ya que finaliza la instalación con éxito (ya que
  previamente había instalado las dependencias de la arquitectura i386).
 
  El problema:
 
  Al ejecutarlo desde la consola
 
  root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
  Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
  root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6#
 
  Supuesta mente se abre Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1, pero en realidad
  no pasa nada.

 (...)

 Por aquí dicen lo mismo:

 Packet Tracer does not run
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10t=109076

 En la wiki de Archlinux tienes más datos, mira a ver si encuentras algo
 que te sirva:

 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PacketTracer

 Y por último, comprueba que tu sistema reúne todos los requisitos para la
 ejecución de la aplicación.

 Saludos,

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Re: PacketTracer 6.0.1 Debian amd64

2014-06-10 Thread Ricardo Zúñiga
Bueno le agregue el repositorio oficial de Debian sid

Despues instalé apt-get -t sid install libc6-amd64 libc6-dev libc6-dbg

Volvi a ejecuar packettracer y funciono

Doy por solucionado el problema
gracias por la ayuda.


El 11 de junio de 2014, 1:15, Ricardo Zúñiga ceaerr...@gmail.com escribió:

 Siguiendo con el tema

 Ingrese a /usr/local/PacketTracer que es donde quedó ibstalado
 packettracer 6.0.1
 Edite el archivo ejecutable packettracer como me sugirieron

 $@  /dev/null 21 á  $@

 Lo cual me arrojo el siguiente error:


 x@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
 Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
 ./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
 `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./PacketTracer6)
 ./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
 `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
 /usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQt3Support.so.4)
 ./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
 `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
 /usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtGui.so.4)
 ./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
 `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
 /usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtNetwork.so.4)
 ./PacketTracer6: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version
 `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by
 /usr/local/PacketTracer6/lib/libQtCore.so.4)

 lo cual busque la libreria libc.so.6 y la instale en
 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/

 ejecute otra vez packettracer


 x@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
 Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
 ./PacketTracer6: error while loading shared libraries:
 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: invalid ELF header

 Intentare instalar libc de debian testing (aunque no me gusta mezclar).


 El 10 de junio de 2014, 9:44, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Tue, 10 Jun 2014 03:50:08 -0400, Ricardo Zúñiga escribió:

  Estimados

 Ese html...

  Estoy instalando el PacketTracer Version 6.0.1, eh leído en varias
  paginas de Internet y el método de instalación es el siguiente:
 
  1- Bajar el archivo *.bin
  2- Darle perimos de ejecuccion: chmod +x *.bin
  3- Ejecutar el *.bin  ./*.bin
 
  Hasta acá todo bien ya que finaliza la instalación con éxito (ya que
  previamente había instalado las dependencias de la arquitectura i386).
 
  El problema:
 
  Al ejecutarlo desde la consola
 
  root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6# ./packettracer
  Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1
  root@debian:/usr/local/PacketTracer6#
 
  Supuesta mente se abre Starting Packet Tracer 6.0.1, pero en realidad
  no pasa nada.

 (...)

 Por aquí dicen lo mismo:

 Packet Tracer does not run
 http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10t=109076

 En la wiki de Archlinux tienes más datos, mira a ver si encuentras algo
 que te sirva:

 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PacketTracer

 Y por último, comprueba que tu sistema reúne todos los requisitos para la
 ejecución de la aplicación.

 Saludos,

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Re: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa-mãe?

2014-06-10 Thread Listeiro 037
Em Mon, 09 Jun 2014 13:26:17 -0300
Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br escreveu:

 Então quer dizer que devemos concluir que, quando um computador
 queimar e tiver só o Windows, o responsável é o Windows?

Eu ri. Felizmente o Windows não apronta essa também. 

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the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security
is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it. —
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Re: Alo!!!

2014-06-10 Thread Listeiro 037


Tava bom até meter política. Mentira. 
Não sei quem perde mais tempo, eu por ler ou o outro por escrever.



Em Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:22:48 -0300
Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com escreveu:

 5º Casal)
 
 - Aecio
 - Marina
 -- possível nome da distro: Poh Linux
 
 
 hahahahahhahahahhahaha
 
 
 Em 9 de junho de 2014 12:19, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
  4º Casal)
 
  - Dilma
  - Lula
  -- possível nome da distro: Lascou-se Linux
 

-- 
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the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security
is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it. —
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Re: Configurar vários gerenciadores de janela no xdm

2014-06-10 Thread Listeiro 037

Slim, mas é tipo o xdm.
https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/slim


Em Mon, 09 Jun 2014 15:56:35 -0300
Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br escreveu:

 Instalo lightdm e alterno no /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf para
 autobootar sem login, manualmente. 
 Acho que o lightdm é bem melhor que o xdm, que não me pareceu tão
 fácil de simples para usuários que curtem conhecer e alterar o
 sistema manualmente sem conhecimentos avançados. 
 Thiago Zoroastro
  http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro
 
 
 


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Re: Alo!!!

2014-06-10 Thread Manoel Pedro de Araújo
estava gostando da discussão mesmo com politica, estas coisas de muito
sucesso geralmente tem alguma politica por trás.


2014-06-10 9:29 GMT-03:00 Listeiro 037 listeiro_...@yahoo.com.br:



 Tava bom até meter política. Mentira.
 Não sei quem perde mais tempo, eu por ler ou o outro por escrever.



 Em Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:22:48 -0300
 Rubens Junior rbns...@gmail.com escreveu:

  5º Casal)
 
  - Aecio
  - Marina
  -- possível nome da distro: Poh Linux
 
 
  hahahahahhahahahhahaha
 
 
  Em 9 de junho de 2014 12:19, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:
 
   4º Casal)
  
   - Dilma
   - Lula
   -- possível nome da distro: Lascou-se Linux
  

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 the few things that you can rely on. Unfortunately, endpoint security
 is so terrifically weak that NSA can frequently find ways around it. —
 Edward Snowden


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Marco Regulatório de Sistemas Operacionais de Computador no Brasil era: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa de vídeo?

2014-06-10 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
Assim como limparam os aparelhos 'xingue-lingues' que se disfarçavam de tablet, poderia haver uma regulamentação para qualificar pessoas disponíveis a fazerem serviços de formatação de computadores no Brasil.
 
Regulamentar o que queremos que se instale para as pessoas, e ainda pensar em formas das pessoas agirem em caso de pirataria, garantindo pedir o dinheiro de volta e combatendo as noções errôneas de que sistemas operacionais de computador no HD causem a queima de uma placa de vídeo, já não bastasse todo o tipo de coisas que fazem para garantir o não funcionamento perfeito, como o Jose Roberto citou, do notebook que não funciona o cooler.
 
E regulamentando os sistemas operacionais, colocar uma cláusula como a do Marco Civil de "adotar preferencialmente tecnologias livres e abertas".rs É preciso colocar a legislação a nosso favor primeiro, e aos poucos a gente arruma a mão-de-obra para o mercado de trabalho.
 
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 http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro


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[OT] Dell XPS

2014-06-10 Thread Felipe Nogueira Oliva
Boa tarde galera,

Já vou pedindo desculpa, mas vai que alguém tem interesse.

Dell XPS Debian testado
http://pr.bomnegocio.com/regiao-de-maringa/computadores-e-acessorios/notebook-dell-xps-15-intel-i7-8gb-de-memoria-36974887

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Re: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa de vídeo?

2014-06-10 Thread Rodrigo Cunha
Não acho que seja tão absurdo, o difícil é provar.
Pede para ele os logs do sistema e posta ai /var/log/syslog


Em 9 de junho de 2014 15:01, Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br
escreveu:

 Queimou foi a placa de vídeo e o 'técnico' acusou o dual boot com o Debian.


 Thiago Zoroastro
  http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro


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 *De:* zep...@gmail.com
 *Enviada:* Segunda-feira, 9 de Junho de 2014 14:35
 *Para:* debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Assunto:* Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa-mãe?

  Com as devidas correções de português:

 Boa tarde,

 Essa parte de técnico de informática no Brasil é complicado, pois não
 tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica,
 CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.

 Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de
 informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de
 conhecimento.

 Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível,
 seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como
 por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas
 que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo,
 como já vi driver NIVIDIA do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo
 inteiro em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo
 clock, sendo assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar
 mais o equipamento.

 Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem liberdade
 para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do linux, um
 how to mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer sérios
 problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.

 Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí já
 forçou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até mesmo
 para normalmente deixamos o SO em uma partição e arquivos em outra, sem
 falar na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem,
 nunca vi nenhum review descente ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa
 acontecer.


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:23, José Roberto zep...@gmail.com
 http://../../../undefined/compose?to=zep...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boa tarde,

 Essa parte de técnico de informática no Brasil é complicado, pois não
 tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica,
 CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.

 Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de
 informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de
 conhecimento.

 Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível,
 seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como
 por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas
 que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo,
 como já driver Nvidia do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo inteiro
 em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo clock, sendo
 assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar mais o
 equipamento.

 Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem
 liberdade para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do
 linux, um how-to mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer
 sérios problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.

 Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí
 já forcou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até
 mesmo pro normalmente deixamos o SO em uma e arquivos em outra, sem falar
 na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem, nunca vi
 nenhum review descende ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa acontecer.


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:06, Emerson Monteiro emo...@gmail.com
 http://../../../undefined/compose?to=emo...@gmail.comescreveu:

  No caso me parece que era um computador antigo e desktop! Então muito
 improvável que seja o Debian. O Debian tem certos problema com suporte para
 cooler de notebook não desktop. Sem contar que máquinas antigas não em
 UEFI. Deve ter dado problema na placa mãe por falta ou pasta térmica antiga
 ou cooler travado!

 Emerson M. Sobreiro


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 13:50, henrique jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br
 http://../../../undefined/compose?to=jmhenri...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:


   Não é tão absurdo/impossivel o que o técnico disse.



 http://br-linux.org/2013/01/boot-do-linux-com-uefi-pode-danificar-permanentemente-alguns-notebooks-samsung.html

 Mas como ninguém deu detalhes suficientes, então fica meio impossível
 acreditar.

  --
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 *Para:* Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br
 

Re: [OT] Dell XPS

2014-06-10 Thread Daniel Lenharo
Quanto tempo de uso??

Tem nota fiscal??


2014-06-10 16:09 GMT-03:00 Felipe Nogueira Oliva felipe.n...@gmail.com:

 Boa tarde galera,

 Já vou pedindo desculpa, mas vai que alguém tem interesse.

 Dell XPS Debian testado
 http://pr.bomnegocio.com/regiao-de-maringa/computadores-e-acessorios/notebook-dell-xps-15-intel-i7-8gb-de-memoria-36974887

 --
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 *If 386BSD had been available when I started on Linux, Linux would
 probably never had happened. *Linus Torvalds



Re: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa de vídeo?

2014-06-10 Thread Luiz Frederico Gaertner
Não acho difícil provar... acho difícil alguém financiar os testes... é só
colocar uma nova placa de vídeo do mesmo modelo e lote e realizar testes...
se queimar, necessário um novo teste com a mesma placa, mesmo modelo, e
lote diferente... se queimar também pode ser que seja algum erro de
sistema, mas caso não, pode ser o lote... componentes paiosos e tals...

Termo técnico paioso = com pouca qualidade...

Abraço,


Em 10 de junho de 2014 16:11, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com
escreveu:


 Não acho que seja tão absurdo, o difícil é provar.
 Pede para ele os logs do sistema e posta ai /var/log/syslog


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 15:01, Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br
  escreveu:

 Queimou foi a placa de vídeo e o 'técnico' acusou o dual boot com o
 Debian.


 Thiago Zoroastro
  http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro


 --

 *De:* zep...@gmail.com
 *Enviada:* Segunda-feira, 9 de Junho de 2014 14:35
 *Para:* debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Assunto:* Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa-mãe?

  Com as devidas correções de português:

 Boa tarde,

 Essa parte de técnico de informática no Brasil é complicado, pois não
 tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica,
 CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.

 Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de
 informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de
 conhecimento.

 Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível,
 seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como
 por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas
 que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo,
 como já vi driver NIVIDIA do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo
 inteiro em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo
 clock, sendo assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar
 mais o equipamento.

 Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem
 liberdade para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do
 linux, um how to mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer
 sérios problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.

 Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí
 já forçou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até
 mesmo para normalmente deixamos o SO em uma partição e arquivos em outra,
 sem falar na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem,
 nunca vi nenhum review descente ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa
 acontecer.


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:23, José Roberto zep...@gmail.com
 http://../../../undefined/compose?to=zep...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Boa tarde,

 Essa parte de técnico de informática no Brasil é complicado, pois não
 tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica,
 CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.

 Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de
 informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de
 conhecimento.

 Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível,
 seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como
 por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas
 que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo,
 como já driver Nvidia do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo inteiro
 em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo clock, sendo
 assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar mais o
 equipamento.

 Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem
 liberdade para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do
 linux, um how-to mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer
 sérios problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.

 Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí
 já forcou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até
 mesmo pro normalmente deixamos o SO em uma e arquivos em outra, sem falar
 na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem, nunca vi
 nenhum review descende ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa acontecer.


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:06, Emerson Monteiro emo...@gmail.com
 http://../../../undefined/compose?to=emo...@gmail.comescreveu:

  No caso me parece que era um computador antigo e desktop! Então muito
 improvável que seja o Debian. O Debian tem certos problema com suporte para
 cooler de notebook não desktop. Sem contar que máquinas antigas não em
 UEFI. Deve ter dado problema na placa mãe por falta ou pasta térmica antiga
 ou cooler travado!

 Emerson M. Sobreiro


 Em 9 de junho de 2014 13:50, henrique jmhenri...@yahoo.com.br
 

Re: League of Legends

2014-06-10 Thread Rafael Ivanir Costa Oliveira
Olá Rodolfo,

Não jogo o LOL no Debian ainda, por falta de tempo, porém já tem usuários
que conseguiram:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=escreva+%20aqui%20+o%20+que+%20vai%20+ser%20+pesquisado
League+of+Legends+no+Debian



Técnico em Informática com ênfase em programação - Mat.: 145485
ESCOLA DE EDUC. PROFIS. SENAI VISCONDE DE MAUÁ



Em 9 de junho de 2014 12:10, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Bom dia,

 pode não ser um assunto interessante, mas gostaría de saber se alguém já
 conseguiu jogar League of Legends no Debian '-' Eu tentei instalando
 PlayOnlinux, mas ta faltando alguma configuração que ainda não
 identifiquei, o único motivo para eu ter windows no meu notebook são os
 jogos, mas tão logo consiga rodar alguns no Linux estarei removendo o mesmo.

 Aguardo experiências e tutoriais se possível =D


 Obrigado.



Fwd: League of Legends

2014-06-10 Thread Rafael Ivanir Costa Oliveira
Corrigindo o link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=League+of+Legends+no+Debian

Olá Rodolfo,

Não jogo o LOL no Debian ainda, por falta de tempo, porém já tem usuários
que conseguiram:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=escreva+%20aqui%20+o%20+que+%20vai%20+ser%20+pesquisado
League+of+Legends+no+Debian



Técnico em Informática com ênfase em programação - Mat.: 145485
ESCOLA DE EDUC. PROFIS. SENAI VISCONDE DE MAUÁ



Em 9 de junho de 2014 12:10, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

Bom dia,

 pode não ser um assunto interessante, mas gostaría de saber se alguém já
 conseguiu jogar League of Legends no Debian '-' Eu tentei instalando
 PlayOnlinux, mas ta faltando alguma configuração que ainda não
 identifiquei, o único motivo para eu ter windows no meu notebook são os
 jogos, mas tão logo consiga rodar alguns no Linux estarei removendo o mesmo.

 Aguardo experiências e tutoriais se possível =D


 Obrigado.



Re: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa de vídeo?

2014-06-10 Thread Thiago Zoroastro
O computador quebrado está a 400 km de onde estou. E ele já foi formatado.
 
Não há como provar; mas relatar que isso acontece(sem u) quer dizer que precisa ser regulamentado.
 
Thiago Zoroastro
 http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro


De: luizgaert...@gmail.comEnviada: Terça-feira, 10 de Junho de 2014 16:41Para: rodrigo.root...@gmail.comAssunto: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa de vídeo?
Não acho difícil provar... acho difícil alguém financiar os testes... é só colocar uma nova placa de vídeo do mesmo modelo e lote e realizar testes... se queimar, necessário um novo teste com a mesma placa, mesmo modelo, e lote diferente... se queimar também pode ser que seja algum erro de sistema, mas caso não, pode ser o lote... componentes paiosos e tals...
 
Termo técnico "paioso" = com pouca qualidade...
 
Abraço, 


Em 10 de junho de 2014 16:11, Rodrigo Cunha rodrigo.root...@gmail.com escreveu:




 

Não acho que seja tão absurdo, o difícil é provar.
Pede para ele os logs do sistema e posta ai /var/log/syslog


Em 9 de junho de 2014 15:01, Thiago Zoroastro thiago.zoroas...@bol.com.br escreveu:

Queimou foi a placa de vídeo e o 'técnico' acusou o dual boot com o Debian.
 
 
Thiago Zoroastro
 http://blogoosfero.cc/profile/thiagozoroastro


De: zep...@gmail.comEnviada: Segunda-feira, 9 de Junho de 2014 14:35Para: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Assunto: Técnico de informática disse que Debian queimou placa-mãe?

Com as devidas correções de português:
 
Boa tarde,
 
Essa parte de "técnico de informática" no Brasil é complicado, pois não tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica, CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.
 
Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de conhecimento.
 
Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível, seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo, como já vi driver NIVIDIA do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo inteiro em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo clock, sendo assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar mais o equipamento.
 
Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem liberdade para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do linux, um "how to" mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer sérios problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.
 
Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí já forçou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até mesmo para normalmente deixamos o SO em uma partição e arquivos em outra, sem falar na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem, nunca vi nenhum review descente ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa acontecer.


Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:23, José Roberto zep...@gmail.com escreveu:

Boa tarde,
 
Essa parte de "técnico de informática" no Brasil é complicado, pois não tem nada que regulamenta a profissão aqui, como há o CREA para eletrônica, CRC para contábil, CRM para medicina e por aí vai.
 
Então muita gente que sabe formatar computador, acha que é técnico de informática, justamente por não ter uma regulamentação de mínimo de conhecimento.
 
Agora com relação ao sistema operacional estragar hardware é possível, seja através de overclock ou ajuste mal feito do sistema operacional, como por exemplo o citado da questão do cooler, existe a possibilidade sim. Mas que normalmente acontece é com relação a diminuir a vida útil do mesmo, como já driver Nvidia do linux fazer a placa de vídeo rodar o tempo inteiro em performance alta, não conseguia deixar ela rodando em baixo clock, sendo assim a vida útil dela ia ser bem menor, pois ia desgastar mais o equipamento.
 
Normalmente em sistemas operacionais abertos, onde o usuário tem liberdade para ficar mexendo em tudo, inclusive no kernel, que é o caso do linux, um how-to mal feito da internet ou mal-seguido, pode sim trazer sérios problemas para o hardware, infelizmente essa possibilidade é válida.
 
Agora o que estava no twitter que dividir o HD faz ele queimar, isso aí já forcou a barra, pois quantos windows com duas partições existem? até mesmo pro normalmente deixamos o SO em uma e arquivos em outra, sem falar na quantidade de partições que um servidor windows ou linux tem, nunca vi nenhum review descende ou provas técnicas descente que isso possa acontecer.


Em 9 de junho de 2014 14:06, Emerson Monteiro emo...@gmail.comescreveu:



No caso me parece que era um computador antigo e desktop! Então muito improvável que seja o Debian. O Debian tem certos problema com suporte para cooler de notebook não desktop. Sem contar que máquinas antigas não em UEFI. Deve 

Re: How to get the processes that open (connect to) certain display?

2014-06-10 Thread Reco
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:35:45 +0800
Magicloud Magiclouds magicloud.magiclo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
   There are two situations. Local program, remote program via X forward.
 
   All I can think of is to iterate local  procs and read DISPLAY env. I
 have no idea how to do with remote programs.
 
   Any ideas?

man xlsclients

Reco


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Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-10 Thread Tom H
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM, David Glover-Aoki da...@gloveraoki.net wrote:
 I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental.

 How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental?

aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aexperimental


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Re: bridges with multiple static IPs or DHPC - how to configure?

2014-06-10 Thread Steffen Dettmer
Hi,

thanks for your mail!

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
 On 2014-06-05, Steffen Dettmer steffen.dett...@gmail.com wrote:
 Do you - or anyone else - know the ip replacement for brctl show?

 ip link show br1 is too brief, no information about the slave
 devices or STP mode.

 ip -stats -stats link show br1

Interesting, didn't knew that.

Yeah, and as Tom wrote in meantime, a replacement command could be:

$ ip link|grep master br0
3: eth0: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
master br0 state UP mode DEFAULT qlen 1000
9: eth1.77@eth1: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue master br0 state LOWERLAYERDOWN mode DEFAULT
10: eth2.78@eth2: NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP mtu 1500 qdisc
noqueue master br0 state LOWERLAYERDOWN mode DEFAULT
40: mslot4: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,NOARP mtu 1500 qdisc noop master br0
state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 1000

Regards,
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Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-10 Thread Filip
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:

 On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM, David Glover-Aoki da...@gloveraoki.net 
 wrote:
 I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental.

 How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental?

 aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aexperimental

That doesn't work as expected for me.

I am running Jessie, with only one package from Sid, as verified with
apt-show versions mentioned earlier, and confirmed with apt-cache
policy.

I have set the pin priority of sid to 1 in /etc/apt/preferences do that
there is no automatic upgrade to the packages from unstable.

When I run:

$ aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aunstable

I get a lot more than only the packages that where installed from sid
though. The installed packages for which the version in Jessie and Sid
is the same are included in the list too.

Is it possible to create a query in aptitude that shows the packages are
*really* taken from sid ?


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Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-10 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:38 AM, Filip fi...@fbvnet.be wrote:
 Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
 On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:25 PM, David Glover-Aoki da...@gloveraoki.net 
 wrote:

 I'm running wheezy but have some packages installed from experimental.

 How can I list all the packages currently installed from experimental?

 aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aexperimental

 That doesn't work as expected for me.

 I am running Jessie, with only one package from Sid, as verified with
 apt-show versions mentioned earlier, and confirmed with apt-cache
 policy.

 I have set the pin priority of sid to 1 in /etc/apt/preferences do that
 there is no automatic upgrade to the packages from unstable.

 When I run:

 $ aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aunstable

 I get a lot more than only the packages that where installed from sid
 though. The installed packages for which the version in Jessie and Sid
 is the same are included in the list too.

 Is it possible to create a query in aptitude that shows the packages are
 *really* taken from sid ?

You can check from where these packages are coming with:

aptitude search -F %p %t %v ~S ~i ~Aunstable

%p : name of package
%t : name of archive
%v : version

Since Sven posted the same search, I have to assume that I haven't
used the wrong short options. I don't have the time to check the
documentation but you could try the long options just in case:

aptitude search -F %p %t %v ?narrow(?installed,?archive(unstable)


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Debian memtest package faulty? (was ... Re: hardware errors)

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 01:45:53AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 01:35 +0200, B wrote:
  On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200
  Richard Hector rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
  
   I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out
   which DIMM(s)?
  
  Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least
  3 complete cycles to run.
 
 I would use the memtest live media instead, so you're aware that you
 always get the current version from upstream. On my machine memtest from
 Debian and Ubuntu fails, while same versions from the live media don't
 fail.

So you are saying the Debian and Ubuntu versions are buggy? Which live
media version works for you?

Have you filed a bug?

Does the memtest86+ package work from the grub menu, for you?

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Re: Listing packages installed from experimental

2014-06-10 Thread Filip
Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:


 When I run:

 $ aptitude search ~S ~i ~Aunstable

 I get a lot more than only the packages that where installed from sid
 though. The installed packages for which the version in Jessie and Sid
 is the same are included in the list too.

 Is it possible to create a query in aptitude that shows the packages are
 *really* taken from sid ?

 You can check from where these packages are coming with:

 aptitude search -F %p %t %v ~S ~i ~Aunstable

 %p : name of package
 %t : name of archive
 %v : version

 Since Sven posted the same search, I have to assume that I haven't
 used the wrong short options. I don't have the time to check the
 documentation but you could try the long options just in case:

 aptitude search -F %p %t %v ?narrow(?installed,?archive(unstable)

I added a missing closing brace, and piped the output to grep, and that
gives me the result I want:

$ aptitude search -F %p %t %v
?narrow(?installed,?archive(unstable))|grep -v testing

As the archive names are now listed in the output, I filter the output
further with grep.


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Re: hardware errors

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Hector
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On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
 On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector
 rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
 
 I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out 
 which DIMM(s)?
 
 Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least 3 complete
 cycles to run.
 

Thanks.

Have created a memtest86+ CD and will try it tomorrow evening (need a
scheduled time to take it down).

Interestingly, there are no more errors logged for the last day and a
half ...

Any guesses as to how long these 3 complete cycles will take? It's a
Sun Fire X2100 M2 (dual core opteron 1218, 2600MHz) with 4G of RAM. I
haven't run memtest for ages ...

Richard
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Re: Package system totaly a complete mess

2014-06-10 Thread berenger . morel



Le 08.06.2014 17:10, The Wanderer a écrit :
Maybe it's possible to configure aptitude so that it doesn't do 
that...

but if so, I would think that configuration should be the default,
because as things stand it seems almost worse than useless for 
anything

but the simplest operations.


Can't agree more about the aptitude's solver. That's why I **never** 
use it, I prefer to break packages, and then fix the system myself, 
through the curses interface.
Since I am running a fairly minimal system ( in average 800-900 
packages are installed on my computers ) it does not take ages, even if 
the aptitude's solver makes things very slow when something is broken ( 
it tries to find new solutions after every user action, even moving on 
next broken package ).
I tried to go into it's source code, but I was not able to understand 
it's structure. At least I learn that, at a point in time, there was a 
Qt port, a Gtk port, and another one that I do not remember. But it's 
hard to find a point to start hacking it unfortunately.


It have other defaults, for sure, for example since multiarch browsing 
packages is painful if you have more than one arch: every package 
corresponding to your pattern will be found as many times as the number 
of architectures you enabled.
Another one is the CHANGELOG system, which only retrieves Debian's 
changelog, which is not really informative about what was changed in 
source code: lot of maintainer change, contributor added, etc. It is 
also impossible to select text from it to copy paste, and suffer various 
limitations when you are downloading/installing stuff: you can not then 
change state of packages, there is no possibility to install a package 
at the point where all it's dependencies has been downloaded, or better 
to unpack it while waiting ( in short: it is mono-threaded ), it can not 
install things in a different place than system's defaults ( unlike dpkg 
which is able to, so it's not a dpkg's limitation, and it would make it 
possible to manage distant computers by mounting their partitions 
through sshfs or whatever. Or why not, manage multiple computer at the 
same time, but this would be a lot more complex of course. ).
And finally, it would be pretty nice if it had different colors 
depending on the version increase: major, minor, build.


But no software is perfect, right? Apt-get can't do those things 
either, and I bet the same for synaptic.
So I still prefer aptitude ( for it TUI, clearly ), and maybe in the 
future I'll have more motivation to enhance it than last time I tried ( 
but it's not even possible to find correct documentation about libpkg, 
IIRC, so I doubt it ). Or to prove another time that 
http://xkcd.com/927/ is so true :D


However, about the solver, I have noticed ( when I was trying to hack 
it, I subscribed to the dedicated mailinglist ) that the idea of a 
multiple solver was there. With this feature, implementing a null 
solver, or whatever, would be possible. Our toys are not unmaintained.



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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-06-10 Thread Wim Bertels
On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 13:18 -0400, John L. Cunningham wrote:
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:14:27PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote:
  
  ps: goal, setup a dynamic random slideshow (pic + movie) for the
  grandmother only using the power button
  
 How important is random? I've done something similar by making a screen 
 recording of feh doing a slide show, and then aadding a soundtrack using a 
 video editor (Might have been Pitivi but it also could have been OpenShot, 
 it's been a while.)

it is,
the setup should be dynamic (in adding new media files),
just adding media files to a folder should be sufficient 

mvg,
Wim

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Please delete all my Post from my E-Mail adress !

2014-06-10 Thread Finjan, Salam
 

Good day, 
please delete my post from mailing list! 

E-Mail:salam.fin...@nds.aok.de
Thank you very much 
Finjan

 



IBM ServeRAID 8k-l driver

2014-06-10 Thread basti
Hello,

I have a IBM System X3550 with a IBM ServeRAID 8k-l RAID Controller.
First of all I have build a RAID with the BIOS Raid-config and
installed Debian.

Now I need a management system to check if the raid is clean.
For Software raid it's called mdadm.

Where can I find somethink for the IBM Raid controller?
How can I Build this? I only found RPM's.

The aacraid does not support the IBM ServeRAID 8k-l.

Thanks,
Basti


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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote:
 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000
 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
 From: ros...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


 Hmm, I'm not absolutely sure that using a fake name in an email header
 would count as identity theft.

 You are right. I just checked with my solicitor and was told that that is
 not identity theft.

 But I'm so worried about my reputation and the circumstances under which my
 ex-wife left me for another man.

It may not be identity theft, but it's serious damage to reputation,
and as such may be actionable. But possibly more importantly, it's
extremely damaging to YOUR reputation. Do you really want to be known
as the guy who stole Jerry Stuckle's name, and did it so badly that
it was obvious?

ChrisA


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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote:
 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:16 +1000

 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
 From: ros...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 Do you really want to be known
 as the guy who stole Jerry Stuckle's name, and did it so badly that
 it was obvious?

 But I AM Jerry Stuckle.

I wouldn't even bother responding, except that I want subsequent
readers (including archive bingers) to have some indication of what's
going on. Want to know which posts are by the real Jerry Stuckle and
which aren't? Just flip through the headers and it's patently obvious.
For one thing, I don't think the real JS would send to me as well as
to the list.

ChrisA


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Re: Debian memtest package faulty? (was ... Re: hardware errors)

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 So you are saying the Debian and Ubuntu versions are buggy? Which live
 media version works for you?
 
 Have you filed a bug?
 
 Does the memtest86+ package work from the grub menu, for you?

I can't say if it would work from the GRUB menu now, but it didn't for
older Debain and Ubuntu installs. No, I didn't file a bug report, but
reported it at least to one *buntu devel mailing list. Btw. I don't know
if memtest from Arch Linux would work, I simply never installed it to my
Debians/*buntus and other installs anymore. There's a live media from
memtest. I'm to lazy to search for the link. I got false positives. A
perfect working machine got RAM errors already when starting the test,
but when using the memtest from the memtest live media, there were no
errors when running the test several times, each day for around a day.
This was repeatable.


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Re: hardware errors

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:24 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
  On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector
  rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
  
  I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure out 
  which DIMM(s)?
  
  Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least 3 complete
  cycles to run.
  
 
 Thanks.
 
 Have created a memtest86+ CD and will try it tomorrow evening (need a
 scheduled time to take it down).
 
 Interestingly, there are no more errors logged for the last day and a
 half ...
 
 Any guesses as to how long these 3 complete cycles will take? It's a
 Sun Fire X2100 M2 (dual core opteron 1218, 2600MHz) with 4G of RAM. I
 haven't run memtest for ages ...

IIRC one complete standard test with my dual-core Athlon 2.1 GHz 4 GiB
RAM takes more than 1 hour. I guess in 1 day it does around 8 complete
tests, perhaps I run it just during the night in half of a day. I might
be mistaken, but you should expect that you need to run it for several
hours.



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Re: hardware errors

2014-06-10 Thread Richard Hector
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On 10/06/14 23:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:24 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
 On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector 
 rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
 
 I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure
 out which DIMM(s)?
 
 Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least 3
 complete cycles to run.
 
 
 Thanks.
 
 Have created a memtest86+ CD and will try it tomorrow evening
 (need a scheduled time to take it down).
 
 Interestingly, there are no more errors logged for the last day
 and a half ...
 
 Any guesses as to how long these 3 complete cycles will take?
 It's a Sun Fire X2100 M2 (dual core opteron 1218, 2600MHz) with
 4G of RAM. I haven't run memtest for ages ...
 
 IIRC one complete standard test with my dual-core Athlon 2.1 GHz 4
 GiB RAM takes more than 1 hour. I guess in 1 day it does around 8
 complete tests, perhaps I run it just during the night in half of a
 day. I might be mistaken, but you should expect that you need to
 run it for several hours.

Thanks. I'm not sure how long we can afford to leave the machine down;
hopefully the error will show up promptly. BTW - it will show an error
even if ECC corrects it, right?

Richard


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Re: Please delete all my Post from my E-Mail adress !

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 12:10 +0200, Finjan, Salam wrote:
 Good day, 
 please delete my post from mailing list! 
 
 E-Mail:salam.fin...@nds.aok.de
 Thank you very much 
 Finjan

You need to send similar requests to the admin and not to the list, but
you don't need to send this request, since this won't happen. You read
to what you subscribed, before you subscribed?



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Re: MPD on localhost won't work if there's no Wifi!?

2014-06-10 Thread Teresa e Junior

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 08:22:58 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

As far as I can tell mpc is low-level enough to not care about what
Network Manager advertises. I'm suspecting it does have something to do
with DNS, so I'd suggest you pick a name for your machine and make sure
you adjust your configs as follows (assuming your machine's name is
'mpdserver'):

/etc/hostname:
mpdserver

/etc/hosts:
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.1.1   mpdserver

(you can also use the lan IP here if it is fixed and enabling the IPv6
entries could also help)

mpd.conf:
bind_to_address localhost


After making all these changes exactly as you have mentioned, I wouldn't 
see that error anymore. But because I'm curious, I decided to 
investigate what was the culprit, and I found that leaving 
bind_to_address as localhost and enabling the IPv6 entries in 
/etc/hosts was enough. Then I commented the entries again in /etc/hosts 
and immediately mpc stopped working.



If you make all these changes it's probably a good idea to reboot. If
mpc still can't connect please post the output of:

 getent hosts localhost
 getent hosts mpdserver # or whatever you named it
 netstat -plant | grep mpd

with and without Network Manager running.


The old getent output, from when it was not working:
$ getent hosts localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost

The old getent output, from when it was working:
$ getent hosts localhost
127.0.0.1   localhost
And sometimes:
::1 localhost

The new getent output:
$ getent hosts localhost
::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback

Always netstat has shown this:
$ netstat -plant | grep mpd
tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:6600  0.0.0.0:*LISTEN 4062/mpd
tcp60 0 ::1:6600:::* LISTEN 4062/mpd

Thanks really a lot to everyone for this!
Teresa and Junior


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Re: Debian memtest package faulty? (was ... Re: hardware errors)

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 13:00 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:06 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  So you are saying the Debian and Ubuntu versions are buggy? Which live
  media version works for you?
  
  Have you filed a bug?
  
  Does the memtest86+ package work from the grub menu, for you?
 
 I can't say if it would work from the GRUB menu now, but it didn't for
 older Debain and Ubuntu installs. No, I didn't file a bug report, but
 reported it at least to one *buntu devel mailing list. Btw. I don't know
 if memtest from Arch Linux would work, I simply never installed it to my
 Debians/*buntus and other installs anymore. There's a live media from
 memtest. I'm to lazy to search for the link. I got false positives. A
 perfect working machine got RAM errors already when starting the test,
 but when using the memtest from the memtest live media, there were no
 errors when running the test several times, each day for around a day.
 This was repeatable.
   
  ^^^ time for around a day



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Re: Please delete all my Post from my E-Mail adress !

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 12:10 +0200, Finjan, Salam wrote:
 Good day,
 please delete my post from mailing list!

 E-Mail:salam.fin...@nds.aok.de
 Thank you very much
 Finjan

 You need to send similar requests to the admin and not to the list, but
 you don't need to send this request, since this won't happen. You read
 to what you subscribed, before you subscribed?

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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/10/2014 6:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote:
 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000
 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
 From: ros...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


 Hmm, I'm not absolutely sure that using a fake name in an email header
 would count as identity theft.

 You are right. I just checked with my solicitor and was told that that is
 not identity theft.

 But I'm so worried about my reputation and the circumstances under which my
 ex-wife left me for another man.
 
 It may not be identity theft, but it's serious damage to reputation,
 and as such may be actionable. But possibly more importantly, it's
 extremely damaging to YOUR reputation. Do you really want to be known
 as the guy who stole Jerry Stuckle's name, and did it so badly that
 it was obvious?
 
 ChrisA
 
 

Chris,

It depends on your jurisdiction.  All my attorney can speak for is the
United States - where it definitely is, the way the law is written.

Jerry


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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/10/2014 6:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote:
 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 20:51:16 +1000

 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
 From: ros...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

 Do you really want to be known
 as the guy who stole Jerry Stuckle's name, and did it so badly that
 it was obvious?

 But I AM Jerry Stuckle.
 
 I wouldn't even bother responding, except that I want subsequent
 readers (including archive bingers) to have some indication of what's
 going on. Want to know which posts are by the real Jerry Stuckle and
 which aren't? Just flip through the headers and it's patently obvious.
 For one thing, I don't think the real JS would send to me as well as
 to the list.
 
 ChrisA
 
 

I wouldn't do it on purpose, anyway :)

Jerry


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Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 09:56:15AM +0400, Reco wrote:
 On Mon, 9 Jun 2014 17:48:37 +1200
 Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 
  On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
   
   In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
   without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
  
  NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD!
 
 Why exactly it is FUD? [1] clearly shows us that udev has the same
 source as systemd does.
 
 [1] https://packages.debian.org/sid/udev

It certainly appears that way, but this message: 
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/msg00845.html
is more enlightening?

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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:11 PM, Jerry Stuckle jstuc...@attglobal.net wrote:
 On 6/10/2014 6:51 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Jerry Stuckle j.stuc...@outlook.com wrote:
 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 06:18:23 +1000
 Subject: Re: GPG Keys. was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?
 From: ros...@gmail.com
 CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org


 Hmm, I'm not absolutely sure that using a fake name in an email header
 would count as identity theft.

 You are right. I just checked with my solicitor and was told that that is
 not identity theft.

 But I'm so worried about my reputation and the circumstances under which my
 ex-wife left me for another man.

 It may not be identity theft, but it's serious damage to reputation,
 and as such may be actionable. But possibly more importantly, it's
 extremely damaging to YOUR reputation. Do you really want to be known
 as the guy who stole Jerry Stuckle's name, and did it so badly that
 it was obvious?

 Chris,

 It depends on your jurisdiction.  All my attorney can speak for is the
 United States - where it definitely is, the way the law is written.

Thanks for clarifying, real-Jerry. IANAL in any jurisdiction, but I do
know the jurisdiction of the internet, and how important one's
reputation is. And that reputation can cross communities fairly easy
(for instance, Rusi Mody posts here on debian-user, and I already know
him from python-list). So whichever way you look at it, it's foolish,
juvenile, and potentially extremely damaging to the one who does it.

It's just not worth it.

ChrisA


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Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
   
   In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
   without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
  
  NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD!

Sorry Ralf, I didn't mean to come across so harsh.

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Re: Please delete all my Post from my E-Mail adress !

2014-06-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 6/10/2014 7:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
 On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 12:10 +0200, Finjan, Salam wrote:
 Good day, 
 please delete my post from mailing list! 

 E-Mail:salam.fin...@nds.aok.de
 Thank you very much 
 Finjan
 
 You need to send similar requests to the admin and not to the list, but
 you don't need to send this request, since this won't happen. You read
 to what you subscribed, before you subscribed?
 
 
 

It wouldn't help, anyway.  This email list is archived a lot more places
than just on debian.org.  Usenet, for a start.

Jerry


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Re: detecting printer connected to the network

2014-06-10 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Sun 08 Jun 2014 at 17:15:14 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

  I thought others might benefit from my experience and provided step by
 step
  instructions at
 
 http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2014/06/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx870-printer-on.html

 A very nice write-up. I hope you do not mind a few comments.

 Thanks. I really appreciate the feedback no matter how small people think
they are.

My intention in writing the above article is to provide one working data
point for users struggling with setting up the printer. I did not, by any
means, tried to be comprehensive.

1. It might be possible to find the printer's IP address from its front
panel.


True. There is always more than one way to do it.


 2. cups depends on cups-client. 'apt-get install cups' is sufficient.

 I have removed cups-client.


Jessie will be released with systemd as the init system; cups would
not be managed from /etc/init.d.


I see. That is a good point. But init.d is what I have tried and worked for
me. I shall try to read about systemd and see how it should be done. But
given my busy schedule, I doubt if it will be in the near future.



 3. A Jessie install puts the first user in the lpadmin group. Further
users do have to be added.


I think this is a moot point. If the user is already added to lpadmin,
there is nothing to be done to begin with.


It appears your printer also works with ipp.


 http://localhost:631/help/network.html?TOPIC=Getting+StartedQUERY=#IPP

The lpr command is in a package which is only suggested by cups; the
lp command comes with cups.


cool. Again I did not know about either of this. Thanks for bringing it up.
I will try these and update the post.


 The 'Useful links:' section isn't clickable. Did you mean it to be?


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Re: hardware errors

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:07 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
 On 10/06/14 23:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 21:24 +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
  On 09/06/14 11:35, B wrote:
  On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 11:22:25 +1200 Richard Hector 
  rich...@walnut.gen.nz wrote:
  
  I assume the RAM needs replacing - is it possible to figure
  out which DIMM(s)?
  
  Install memtest86+ and boot on it, then leave at least 3
  complete cycles to run.
  
  
  Thanks.
  
  Have created a memtest86+ CD and will try it tomorrow evening
  (need a scheduled time to take it down).
  
  Interestingly, there are no more errors logged for the last day
  and a half ...
  
  Any guesses as to how long these 3 complete cycles will take?
  It's a Sun Fire X2100 M2 (dual core opteron 1218, 2600MHz) with
  4G of RAM. I haven't run memtest for ages ...
  
  IIRC one complete standard test with my dual-core Athlon 2.1 GHz 4
  GiB RAM takes more than 1 hour. I guess in 1 day it does around 8
  complete tests, perhaps I run it just during the night in half of a
  day. I might be mistaken, but you should expect that you need to
  run it for several hours.
 
 Thanks. I'm not sure how long we can afford to leave the machine down;
 hopefully the error will show up promptly. BTW - it will show an error
 even if ECC corrects it, right?

No ECC here. I don't know.

I used StartPage and searched for memtest ECC. It seems to be, that
memetst isn't good to test ECC. The current version seems to provide
very limited hardware, seemingly Intel only.


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Re: GPG Keys..... was Re: Should I install chkrootkit?

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 07:12 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
  For one thing, I don't think the real JS would send to me as well as
  to the list.
 
 I wouldn't do it on purpose, anyway :)

Or send top-posting HTML formatted mails. Or ...
The fake to be Jerry wasn't done very good, but it anyway caused enough
trouble.



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Re: unable to mount removable media with xfce4 version 4.10.1

2014-06-10 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 23:20 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 08:22:51AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Mon, 2014-06-09 at 17:48 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 08:31:34PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

In this case systemd likely is for udev, wich usually also is used
without systemd, but it's merged by upstream. Just a guess
   
   NO it isn't merged!!! Please stop spreading FUD!
 
 Sorry Ralf, I didn't mean to come across so harsh.

It wasn't a problem and still is no problem, so don't worry about it.


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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-06-10 Thread The Wanderer
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On 06/10/2014 05:45 AM, Wim Bertels wrote:

 On Sat, 2014-05-31 at 13:18 -0400, John L. Cunningham wrote:
 
 On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 01:14:27PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote:
 
 ps: goal, setup a dynamic random slideshow (pic + movie) for the
 grandmother only using the power button
 
 How important is random? I've done something similar by making a
 screen recording of feh doing a slide show, and then aadding a
 soundtrack using a video editor (Might have been Pitivi but it also
 could have been OpenShot, it's been a while.)
 
 it is, the setup should be dynamic (in adding new media files), just
 adding media files to a folder should be sufficient

In that case, the solution(s?) I proposed won't be good enough, and I'd
be mildly surprised if any of the others mentioned so far would be
either.

If you want something to automatically detect when a new file is added
to a directory, you'll either need something specifically written to
watch for things like that, or you'll need to write such a thing
yourself. The only things I know of that do that are more or less
dedicated to the purpose - mostly programs intended to react to the
arrival of new mail.

Searching through current Debian packages now, the only one that looks
at a second glance like it should be able to do this (aside from the
ones which are specific to a different task, such as sending E-mail in
response to the new file) is 'inoticoming'. You'd have to script what it
should do when it sees the new file (worst-case scenario, kill the
player program and restart it with a clean copy of the updated
playlist; best-case scenario, replace your current playlist with this
new playlist, and don't stop playing the current item), but it might be
doable.

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Re: detecting printer connected to the network

2014-06-10 Thread David
On 10 June 2014 21:22, kamaraju kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 The 'Useful links:' section isn't clickable. Did you mean it to be?

 Yes. I do this to minimize distractions.

Hehe. First there was slow food' [1] now there's slow www :)

And thanks for the write up I need to install a different Canon device
for a family member soon.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slow_Movement


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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM, The Wanderer wande...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Searching through current Debian packages now, the only one that looks
 at a second glance like it should be able to do this (aside from the
 ones which are specific to a different task, such as sending E-mail in
 response to the new file) is 'inoticoming'. You'd have to script what it
 should do when it sees the new file (worst-case scenario, kill the
 player program and restart it with a clean copy of the updated
 playlist; best-case scenario, replace your current playlist with this
 new playlist, and don't stop playing the current item), but it might be
 doable.

If you have to script it, I'd be inclined to just grab a scripting
language with inotify functionality. Personally, I use Pike, but it's
not in the Wheezy repos (although there does seem to be a pike7.8 in
wheezy-backports); there's also Python, with python-pyinotify (or
python-inotifyx, but I haven't that one). I could shoot you some
pyinotify code that I use here; it watches a directory tree, and any
time something's added, appends a date-stamped line to a file. If
there's a way to add to the current playlist on the fly (which can be
done with VLC I *think*??), this code would be about half of what you
need.

ChrisA


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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

2014-06-10 Thread Chris Angelico
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Chris Angelico ros...@gmail.com wrote:
 (or python-inotifyx, but I haven't that one).

*haven't used that one

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Re: IBM ServeRAID 8k-l driver

2014-06-10 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:34:22 +0200
basti black.flederm...@arcor.de wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I have a IBM System X3550 with a IBM ServeRAID 8k-l RAID Controller.
 First of all I have build a RAID with the BIOS Raid-config and
 installed Debian.
 
 Now I need a management system to check if the raid is clean.
 For Software raid it's called mdadm.
 
 Where can I find somethink for the IBM Raid controller?
 How can I Build this? I only found RPM's.
 
 The aacraid does not support the IBM ServeRAID 8k-l.
 
 Thanks,
 Basti


From Linux configuration:

config SCSI_IPS
tristate IBM ServeRAID support
depends on PCI  SCSI
---help---
  This is support for the IBM ServeRAID hardware RAID controllers.
  See http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/netfinity/serveraid.html
  and 
http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?brand=508lndocid=SERV-RAID
  for more information.  If this driver does not work correctly
  without modification please contact the author by email at
  ipsli...@adaptec.com.

  To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
  module will be called ips. 


So, your module is called ips. Verify if proper devices are created
in /dev and mounted on your filesystem.


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Re: IBM ServeRAID 8k-l driver

2014-06-10 Thread basti
Hello,
this driver is build-in.
When I try to load this I get the following error:

/dev# /sbin/modprobe ips
ERROR: could not insert 'ips': No such device

I have a /dev/sda and a /dev/sdb (USB-HDD) but no more HDD's.

That did you mean with:
Verify if proper devices are created in /dev and mounted on your filesystem

Am 10.06.2014 14:04, schrieb Marko Randjelovic:
 On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:34:22 +0200
 basti black.flederm...@arcor.de wrote:

 Hello,

 I have a IBM System X3550 with a IBM ServeRAID 8k-l RAID Controller.
 First of all I have build a RAID with the BIOS Raid-config and
 installed Debian.

 Now I need a management system to check if the raid is clean.
 For Software raid it's called mdadm.

 Where can I find somethink for the IBM Raid controller?
 How can I Build this? I only found RPM's.

 The aacraid does not support the IBM ServeRAID 8k-l.

 Thanks,
 Basti

 From Linux configuration:

 config SCSI_IPS
 tristate IBM ServeRAID support
 depends on PCI  SCSI
 ---help---
   This is support for the IBM ServeRAID hardware RAID controllers.
   See http://www.developer.ibm.com/welcome/netfinity/serveraid.html
   and 
 http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?brand=508lndocid=SERV-RAID
   for more information.  If this driver does not work correctly
   without modification please contact the author by email at
   ipsli...@adaptec.com.

   To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
   module will be called ips. 


 So, your module is called ips. Verify if proper devices are created
 in /dev and mounted on your filesystem.




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Re: IBM ServeRAID 8k-l driver

2014-06-10 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:44:31 +0200
basti black.flederm...@arcor.de wrote:

 Hello,
 this driver is build-in.

The kernel module you're looking for should be called aacraid.


 Where can I find somethink for the IBM Raid controller?

http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-61707


 How can I Build this? I only found RPM's.

Get RPMs. Convert them with alien(1). Hope for the best as alien
doesn't preserve dependencies.

Reco


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Re: detecting printer connected to the network

2014-06-10 Thread Brian
On Tue 10 Jun 2014 at 07:22:30 -0400, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

 On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 6:37 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
 Jessie will be released with systemd as the init system; cups would
 not be managed from /etc/init.d.
 
 
 I see. That is a good point. But init.d is what I have tried and worked for
 me. I shall try to read about systemd and see how it should be done. But
 given my busy schedule, I doubt if it will be in the near future.

There is no need to restart cups under either init system after creating
a print queue.

  3. A Jessie install puts the first user in the lpadmin group. Further
 users do have to be added.
 
 I think this is a moot point. If the user is already added to lpadmin,
 there is nothing to be done to begin with.

I thought it worth mentioning because it is a new feature in Jessie.


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Re: IBM ServeRAID 8k-l driver

2014-06-10 Thread basti
Reco,

aacraid does not support my controller.
https://wiki.debian.org/LinuxRaidForAdmins#aacraid

Convert the RPM to deb is also no solution.
There are kernel modules, and they musst have the same (kernel) version. (I 
think so).

Am 10.06.2014 16:55, schrieb Reco:
  Hi.

 On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 15:44:31 +0200
 basti black.flederm...@arcor.de wrote:

 Hello,
 this driver is build-in.
 The kernel module you're looking for should be called aacraid.


 Where can I find somethink for the IBM Raid controller?
 http://www-947.ibm.com/support/entry/portal/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-61707


 How can I Build this? I only found RPM's.
 Get RPMs. Convert them with alien(1). Hope for the best as alien
 doesn't preserve dependencies.

 Reco




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